2┃build-planning

[still rock]

Now I understand

I see the light

of small white orbs

[old shuttle]

Yeah idk how that thing exists as is. 125+ es on kill

[still rock]

or more with es recovery

[old shuttle]

Like bro. And it being able to double your ES like damn. And oh that works??? Damn wtf

But I guess it’s a 6m unscalable aoe

[still rock]

Im gunna imagine they make overflow 1.5x

instead of 2x

specifically for ES at the values you can get it at its a little broken

[old shuttle]

Nah cause that also nerfs blood mage which already seems bad. Just nerf GF to have a short cool-down

[still rock]

Is there any other source of ES overflow?

[old shuttle]

Like maximum of 3 per second or something

[unreal sierra]

meditate on invo

but it's eh

[still rock]

meditate sounds so bad

[unreal sierra]

yeah esp. when invoker nodes are all so strong

in comparison

[still rock]

And grim feast exists

who tf taking that

[old shuttle]

Also why is grim feast 30 spirit

Like damn dude.

[rugged kraken]

yah blood mage is rough. Only time ive seen it successful where people are not complaining is what Quin did lol and im sure thats not what they wanted us to do with blood mage

[old shuttle]

Is Quinn using just crit bleed stuff?

With DD?

[unreal sierra]

i don't really see a point of blood mage and chayula right now

[worldly stone]

can anyone drop me a pillar of god staff pleasee

[rugged kraken]

hes just doing a big hit/bleed/elemental clever use of mechanics for that one node in the tree

[dawn spire]

No asking for items on this server, sorry mate. Rule six I think

[balmy meteor]

they're cheap as hell on the trade site, could probably trade any orb for one right now

[still rock]

im gunna yoink the korean blood mage spark crit builds

looks strong

[rugged kraken]

but im like almost sure they did not intend for us to use blood mage that way with all the spell stuf in the tree they thought people wouldnt care about Casting there health away plus there mana and getting smacked in the face

[old shuttle]

But yeah I feel like blood mage needs a tweak. It’s so trash feeling rn without specific builds

[unreal sierra]

is it stronger than same on stormweaver

[rugged kraken]

Its pretty bad with cold/lightning/fire whatever even kinda with bone spells you can probly pull off bone stuff with some minion meatshields but minions are currently easy mode so thats no fun

[old shuttle]

Very high high though. Just leech is awkward on higher tiers. Perma curse is insulting.

[still rock]

no clue

without our lord and savior PoB nobody has any idea what theyre doing again

[rugged kraken]

Well the issue with blood mage is we have a million ways to scale Mana and ES in the tree but we got very little to scale HP pool and regen it

[old shuttle]

The orb overhead is also trash xd

[rugged kraken]

its complete shit vs bosses

They need to give the 10% spell leech in the FIRST NODE on top of the first node

[old shuttle]

What’s the point of overheal if you use it all in one spell lmao. And it’s got a soft cap on orbs. So it’s just worse grim feast

[unreal sierra]

not sure why they got rid of life nodes but 30% es is perfectly fine node xd

[old shuttle]

And remember leech sucks on higher tiers

[rugged kraken]

they recently buffed it havent tested it yet

[unreal sierra]

leech is so useless now

tested few days ago and it was still barely nothing on ~10%

[rugged kraken]

Its the only acendancy in the game that forces you to use your first node on something and its shit

[old shuttle]

Yeah I still NEED to use 40% less cost

[rugged kraken]

Well I assume they also expect us to invest in more lifesteal efficeincy right and im sure nobody is doing that

[unreal sierra]

even if I double or triple it then it's still nothing

[old shuttle]

Can’t use mana to life on my spell that deals like 2mil to a pack. At 500 hp it still doesn’t work

I still go negative AF

[still rock]

Are there any BMs using like phys spells or something and pathing to Vaal Pact?

Would be interesting

[unreal sierra]

if it was enough to sustain BM costs

which I doubt

[old shuttle]

I even use crit Insta leech and it wasn’t close yet

Maybe with 15% base crit

[rugged kraken]

Yah I was looking into going crit bone blood mage. Seems like they want us to do that... But bonestorm is impossible to do in the time your pin lasts enless you ahve minions

even with increased bone cage pin it doesnt last long enough for a full blood storm

[old shuttle]

Maybe with high enough CC and Insta leech it’ll work idk

Shouldn’t need ascension 4 and 10 ex gloves to go neutral lmao

[rugged kraken]

and blood storm is kinda iffy sometimes with like stairs and lower/higher levels and doesnt hit sometimes which is rough

[ocean badger]

So I'm messing around with gas grenade builds and maybe I'm crazy but it seems that enemies only ever can get hit by a single instance of gas grenades? Like if I stack 20 grenades on an enemy they don't seem to take any more damage than if I were just single tapping, throwing 5 and exploding them immediately. Am I wrong?

[old shuttle]

Ye enemy can only get 1 poison stack

[still rock]

This is an ongoing problem with a lot of flatter aoes

the terrain is clipping all over the place

really annoying

[rugged kraken]

yah but when your trying to make a horrible acendancy work with a bad character any downside is massive

[sage tulip]

I have a queston, I am playing a Mercenary lightning build. the arrows say they convert physical damage as lightning damage, can I still get physical nodes to up my damage or just lightning. I am trying to understand how the math works.

[ocean badger]

Not alking about poison, talking about exploding the nades.

I had a boss just standing in like 20 of them and it did barely any more damage than just going shoot explode shoot explode.

[still rock]

You only get modifiers on the final converted value type, e.g. if you deal 100 phys dmg and 40% converted to lightning
60 phys (can be increased only by phys modifiers)
40 lightning (can be increased only by lightning modifiers)

[unreal sierra]

if it converts then physical dmg nodes doesn't affect lightning part

[old shuttle]

Yeah it’s like: Weapon stats -> convert ratios -> multipliers

Unlike Poe 1 where you could double dip by boost convert boost

[sage tulip]

ok so its based on the base value of attack before conversion applies then the bonuses to damage apply afterward. hmm ok thanks for the info

I was wondering why my lightning damage seems to be falling off to fast. Yeah I am use to poe1 calculations

[still rock]

Attacks pull damage from your weapon into a % of the attack dmg scaling and then if theres conversion, that value gets converted, then multipliers apply

Yes, different than poe1

no more double sided scaling

[charred wing]

Can anyone point me in the direction of resources to help understand how things work? Stuff like how %dmg of X is added as Y. Additionally, im having trouble knowing what nodes to take for certain class builds. If I want to play cold sorc/summoner its pretty easy to find nodes on the tree for like cold damage/minion damage and fill in some defenses but when I play like monk or mercenary, the node options seem a lot more complicated. Really just want some direction on resources I can begin to consume to better understand how to build characters. (I heard some things have changed in POE2 from POE1, so im reluctant to follow old guides).

[still rock]

The tooltiops ingame if you hoover the udnerlined terms is pretty great imo

[old shuttle]

You want a bit of each. Some spell damage. Some generic damage. Some cast speed. Some cold damage.

[still rock]

It's mostly intuitive but ask if you find anything that's specific

[old shuttle]

Or is that not how it works and I’m dumb?

[charred wing]

Im looking for guides that I can take a deeper dive into the game with

[still rock]

I would wager you still want to bucket your damage types - passive nodes are more valuable here imo

in relation to the rest of the tree

So if you want to scale cold, then do that, if you want to scale minions, then do that. I wouldnt do both.

Unless youre just using minions as utility

[old shuttle]

Is this how it works btw. Or is a 50% spell dmg and 50% cold dmg the same as 100% spell/cold damage

[still rock]

Yes

[charred wing]

yeah sorry if the / was confusing, those are meant to be 2 different examples..

[old shuttle]

Yes isn’t an answer xd

[still rock]

Yes to the latter

Spell dmg and cold dmg for a cold spell are the same effectively

[old shuttle]

Ah cool, good to know

[charred wing]

i understand how to make a cold sorc or a summoner.. whats confusing is monk or mercenary stuff, there are no obvious node clusters for melee and physical damage

its more like crit, accuracy, atk speed, etc

[old shuttle]

Maybe I can inspect out of some of the early 8% spell dmg node

There’s a ton of solid nodes. Lotta damage and attack speed. Hella evasion % boosts

[charred wing]

but really thats just a tangent of my greater question which is where i can find some good resources to really take a deep dive into the games mechanical interactions and how different stats play off each other

[verbal totem]

So some very shoddy testing is making me believe that cull still procs herald of ash overkill from the hit that would have killed the target, anyone able to test on their end?

[still rock]

Are people taking much accuracy stuff? I haven't had to on my bowbringer at all other than just dex but he's only 60ish

[verbal totem]

Using galvanic shards and +cull threshold I'm getting the burning AOE effect and mobs are losing life from it

[still rock]

So dunno how it is later

[old shuttle]

I think it’s nice for AS scaling. But not sure

[verbal totem]

I've taken 0 accuracy at level 60 Xbow Merc and never miss afaict

[old shuttle]

Yeah acc barely matters. It’s just a nice stat for ACC = attack speed

[still rock]

Dex seems to solve accuracy a lot easier

[old shuttle]

Cause you can get pretty crazy acc

[still rock]

What node is that

[old shuttle]

Down right somewhere. Idk its name

[verbal totem]

I think he means dex->atk speed

[old shuttle]

Nah acc AS

[still rock]

Falcon Dive

[old shuttle]

It’s south of Dec AS

[verbal totem]

Afaict there's no way to scale acc directly into any other stat

[still rock]

Nice

[verbal totem]

Oh wait there is

Snap

[old shuttle]

Yee it’s nice IMO

[verbal totem]

Sweeeeeeeet

[old shuttle]

Cause how abundant ACC is and you can kinda just scale it easily

Not sure if it’s GOOD

[dire tinsel]

Possible to get enough mana regen to do MoM + EB + CI on sorc? Or is this just a bad idea for another reason?

[still rock]

other than the fact it's pathed to africa for mercs and warriors

xD

[old shuttle]

But with how big the acc %s are I’d imagine it’s good

[old shuttle]

? Huh

[still rock]

just far

from stuff'

[verbal totem]

Ehhh I kinda ran out a other stuff so I was pathing towards ranger anyways

[old shuttle]

Oh fair. Thought you were dating merch and warriors were going to it

And yeah it’s also in a nice spot

Near the bow node and the dex AS node. So Arrow speed, dex and ACC for extra scaling

[still rock]

No, saying that theyd have to spend a lot to get there so prob not grabbing it unless anoint

and its probably like 6 white oils based on every anoint ive looked at so far

[old shuttle]

Hmm wonder how much the annoying is

[still rock]

Everything is so expensive now

even like Beef

The power -> oil rarity ratio was much better in poe1

[old shuttle]

What’s the diff between oil and distilled btw

Or am I dumb

[still rock]

Oh none, im just using poe1 words

sorry

[old shuttle]

K good. Just making sure

[still rock]

Other than the fact that it comes from delirium

its exactly the same afaik

[old shuttle]

Cause yeah it’s oil on neck and breach on rings yea?

[verbal totem]

Yeah

Catalysts on rings

[still rock]

catalysts can affect amulets as well

But the catalyst won't increase the anoint, for example

[old shuttle]

Neat. How much qual is each cata btw

[still rock]

just explicit and implicit on item

[still rock]

breach ring base lets you go to 50%

rest are 20%

[old shuttle]

Yeye. But how much % per slam

[verbal totem]

Man high roll resistance breach rings have got to go insane

[still rock]

Not sure

[old shuttle]

Yeah breach rings look crazy

50% multiplier triple res ring could be like 225 total res

[still rock]

good to note that (afaik) theres no generic resistance catalyst

only one for each element

fire, cold, light, chaos

all ele res works with any of the ele catalysts though

[supple bay]

besides bow builds are there any ranged builds that are crushing content and aren't glass cannons currently?

[old shuttle]

Ah okay. That’s good cause that’s be crazy

Most builds aren’t glass cannon

[graceful stag]

Yes.

[old shuttle]

Grim feast, that one dodge ES skill, armor, evasion, cap res

Lots of defensive utilities

[verbal totem]

Yeah ideal would be all res + at least one high roll single res and then juice that element quality to hell

Merc seems funky to scale defenses on evasions good but not reliable, armors only okay, my gear probably just sucks tbh.

[old shuttle]

I think it’s just life cata tbh

[verbal totem]

Need more passive recovery and life o guess

[still rock]

https://poe2db.tw/us/Stackable_Currency#CatalystItem

[old shuttle]

Can you get % life flat life neck and annoint life

[still rock]

well

you mean catalyst life?

[old shuttle]

Cata*

[still rock]

then yes

I knew what u meant lol

[old shuttle]

Craycray

[still rock]

e.g.

[old shuttle]

No % on rings though

[verbal totem]

Tremendous

[still rock]

fake item but possible

[old shuttle]

Oh shit there’s + to spell skills on neck

OMW

And I thought my boy was goated

Don’t ask why I SSd an SS

[still rock]

power is so heavily on gear

in poe2

like insane amts of power in gear

[old shuttle]

Yeah jewellery is insane

• to lvl is bonkers. Though the mana costs go nuts

[still rock]

Yeah it gets pretty insane lol

Espec curses

[old shuttle]

No wonder Archmage is so insane rn

[snow sierra]

Is Archemage build the only viable caster ? or is there a tanky caster build that dos not use archemage ?

[old shuttle]

+% dmg per mana of spell and high level spell costing like 600 mana god damn

[still rock]

My Despair is at like 26 i think and with just heightened curse on it its like 500 mana or somn

[old shuttle]

I’m hex blast blood mage

Yeah self casting curse is a meme

[still rock]

I accept the consequences

[snow sierra]

Bloodmage sounds like just bad considering how expensive spells are to cast

[still rock]

Decaying hex gives chaos dot an additional amplifier for dark effigy

and only way is to self cast

[old shuttle]

Yeah probs better to not use blood mage

But the idea is still there

Hexblast + Grim feast. STR + INT. Grab a shield. Get armor and ES

Tanky. Big aoe. Nukes non bosses. Deals with swarms great. Like Ritual and Breach

Blasphemy + Despair & temp chain is lovely

[still rock]

Yeah from all the people that have asked about it in the ed contagion channel I've recommended hexblast instead, just isnt gunna work with dots

[snow sierra]

I thougt about some strange stuff with infernalist with the note that you dont have mana anymore and the covenant and demon stichers and ghostwrith. like building a better bloodmage

[old shuttle]

Sadly hexblast only dets one. But it’s still good. And it’s a 1 button build. Walk click. Pack kaboom

[snow sierra]

Are you at t16 maps with that ?

[strong burrow]

Any reccomendations on good support gems for spark, orb of storms, or conductivity?

[old shuttle]

Not yet. On t10 easy rn though no issues

[snow sierra]

:x mh then i better dont risk it

[rough widget]

3rd repost: hey guys! if i hold alt on chayula monk's "into the breach" it says quality can affect it. but is there really a way to increase it's quality? gemcutter's prism does not seem to be an option.
anyone know?

[plush timber]

for avatar of fire, does anyone know how damage increases for phys vs fire from the passive tree work? Is it a two step conversion where phys has increases applied, times .75 from AoF, and thenfire damage increases from tree?

[tidal copper]

Quality your wand/staff?

[old shuttle]

Those are catalysts

Oh for the skill

Some skills don’t get quality affect

[snow sierra]

I dont wanna play a build that needs a insane amount of currency to hit t16 ^^

i guess ill craft my own build

[rough widget]

yeah its an ascendancy skill but if u hold ALT over it, it literally says the upgrade u get from getting more quality haha

[plush timber]

as far as I know there is not a way to currently give ascendancy skills quality

[still rock]

just play gas arrow its still refartedly strong

[rough widget]

thanks for the response haha

[plush timber]

it says the same for chronomancer skills, I don't think a method of increasing it exists yet

[astral willow]

I thought gas arrow was in the crosshairs for a nerf

[still rock]

It already got nerfed

and its still broken

[old shuttle]

I mean I haven’t tried t16 yet

[still rock]

does way too much dmg for 0 investment in ignite

[tidal copper]

In PoE1 there were uniques for quality not yet here in PoE2

[snow sierra]

I thought about a veil throw pathfinder ^^ so i can use a shield

[plush timber]

anyone have any insight into how avatar of fire works for damage increases for phys vs fire from passive tree?

[still rock]

only works for fire

[tidal copper]

Read conversion tool tip

[plush timber]

that's not necessarily true since your phys is converted to fire at .75 - increases to phys still increase the base

[still rock]

No it doesnt

[verbal totem]

Nah conversion fires first

[still rock]

Only final converted value type matters for multipliers

[old shuttle]

Except for your weapon I think.

[still rock]

Correct but thats local

different

[old shuttle]

Higher listed phys on your weap is still good so yea

[tidal copper]

There are some gems that affect specifically the ranges that work with damage conversion

[verbal totem]

Base physical -> conversion -> global

[snow sierra]

do poisen builds scale chaos dmg in the tree ? could i build a selfcast pathfinder with hexbladast and still use the poisen vile the ascendency gives effectivly ? what exaclty you scale on the tree as poisen ?

[verbal totem]

Chaos spells don't inflict poison I don't think

[still rock]

Scaling chaos dmg doesnt increase the dmg of the poison if you are using physical to create it

[snow sierra]

ah damit

[still rock]

Does that make sense?

[snow sierra]

ye there gos my idea

[still rock]

Cause if you used a chaos hit then technically scaling chaos would increase the value increased by the poison magnitude

[old shuttle]

Though chaos pen is good with the totem if needed

Easy -50% chaos res

[still rock]

Wither =/= pen

they take 50% increased chaos damage, its not pen

[plush timber]

makes sense, I think I was also assuming there was more +phys on the tree which there is not

[snow sierra]

and that wouldnt work since the phys hit at the start is important right ?

[still rock]

It depends on what you want to use as an applicator for poison

is what I was getting at

[still rock]

Yeah they've culled a lot of sources of flat added dmg

Makes the math simpler so I get it

More intuitive

[verbal totem]

Kinda annoying since it makes weapon base damage extremely important tbh

[old shuttle]

Oh wait really damn that’s so good

[plush timber]

time to see if a .25 reduction is worth it for all the ignite magnitude scaling

[still rock]

Yes, much better than pen imo

[old shuttle]

So me giving them despair and Withered is like a LOT

[still rock]

Despair lowers chaos res and wither increases their chaos damage taken after their res is reduced

So yes

It's pretty important for chaos dmg to scale well

Which is why dark effigy totem withering touch support carries every chaos build rn

[plush timber]

just a small side FYI, eye of winter with withering touch and a 'cast on' support of some type will instantly apply 50 wither more or less

[snow sierra]

and the crit debuff as well

[still rock]

I've heard of people using EoW as well yeah

[mystic shard]

recoup is the dmg u take, AND PREVENT right?

That is healed over the duration?

[plush timber]

totem takes a second to stack it up so it can be helpful

[snow sierra]

EoW is just a insane debuffer

[old shuttle]

Will look into stuff for faster wither stacking TY

[verbal totem]

Just take i think

[still rock]

The crit weakness is useful for critblast builds too, like nischana said

[snow sierra]

after midigation so only dmg you take

[still rock]

I dont get much from it for chaos dot so the totem is more effective for me + poison for shits n giggles

Dark effigy applying poison stacks which increases its own damage by giving them another chaos debuff to shoot more projectiles

[mystic shard]

it says on the wiki "and prevented" but hmm ok

[still rock]

its a loop

[old shuttle]

Oh true I forgot about the crit weakness

[gray sail]

what is the difference between these two?

[plush timber]

crit hexblast just doesn't intuitively pair with the DOT side of things though right, essence drain and decaying hex and such?

[still rock]

I think they are innately separate builds

[old shuttle]

Aoe is size. Aad is damage

[plush timber]

yeah which is just a huge feelsbad

[old shuttle]

Yeah DoT isn’t Hexblast

[gray sail]

so the first one just increases the damage not the aoe right?

[still rock]

They may be around the same areas because theres not much chao dmg to take on the tree but they function completely differently and want different utility

[old shuttle]

I forget is the crit vuln thing crit chance or damage

[still rock]

chance

[old shuttle]

Hmmmm

[still rock]

but it's flat additional

+0.5%

[old shuttle]

Still need 15% base crit first I guess. Oh nvm

[still rock]

per stack

[old shuttle]

Oh yeah that’s right.

[still rock]

which means its very good

[primal zealot]

wdym? one is increase of area and the other damage

[snow sierra]

guys do you think Infernalist, hexblast with the covernat,demon stitchers, Atziris Disdain could work ?

[old shuttle]

Ugh I wanna crit pivot but I can’t yet

A4 soon tm

[gray sail]

just making sure, in my language the TL can be read as both increasing AOE

[still rock]

Are people actually using covenant

ill be dead before I give up my rare body armor slot tbh

[old shuttle]

It only increases attack damage for area things.

So not single target attacks for example

[still rock]

youll have to pry my rare body armor from my cold dead hands

[tidal copper]

Weapon swap speed good? I'm using two weapons wondering if it'll change a lot

[still rock]

Seems like it for fluidity

[old shuttle]

Weap swap speed is surprisingly good

[snow sierra]

well i dont know it seem sick and i using ghostwrithe in my currend build atm. its woth 1200 Base ES for me

[spring temple]

yes it's incredible, i'd shoot for 50-75% from tree/jewels

[cinder bramble]

can monsters have negative resistance trough debuffs?

[tidal copper]

How is 30 ailment threshold?
I have the node for ailment threshold per dexterity and I don't know if it's a lot or not

[old shuttle]

Yes

Can’t pen past 0. Can reduce below 0

[mystic shard]

what is the max life someone has managed to get without overflow, it seems pretty impossible to stack life over energy shield.

[old shuttle]

Yea ofc not. Life nodes are trash. Outside maybe minion life and the hammer

[verbal totem]

Not sure about Max but 3k seems common-ish on life scaling ascendancies

E g. Titan, infernalist

[cinder bramble]

thanks

[snow sierra]

And a Inferalist with like 3k health 5% leech and 5-6k ES sounds sick

[verbal totem]

I just went MoM on mine but I'm only at T10s

[spring temple]

AFAIK it means ailments pretend you have 30% more life than you do, so if an enemy needs to do 1000 damage to freeze you, it'll be 1300 instead. it's pretty inconsequential unless you find yourself getting frozen a lot by regular enemies

[old shuttle]

The hammer that makes minion stats apply to you makes those 8% life nodes go crazy yea?

[still rock]

I'm just a chad Rare armor gamer

Get those uniques away from me

[tidal copper]

30 % could be sensible looking at the rest of the tree
I gues I'll substitute for ailment mitigation like less effect of shock

[spring temple]

yeah it would apply to basically anything, but it makes the effect less likely (for shock) instead of less powerful

[old shuttle]

Mitigation res is nice. Also can you change the earlier act investments? Like the vials?

Cause I hate being frozen in tower maps

[still rock]

Im also curious abt that if you find out lmk

[old shuttle]

Have been logging out when getting frozen to not rip the map XD

[still rock]

I think i still need the mana regen ultimately

But would be good to know

[old shuttle]

Yeah same probs. I’m legit chugging my mana flask 24/7

(Fr why doesn’t blood mage lower the mana costs)

[still rock]

Im doing lightning warp soul drain life drain tech

helps a lot

but still lots of mana costs

[old shuttle]

That’s just hp heal no?

[still rock]

soul is mana

[old shuttle]

Ah ok. Hmm maybe

[last patio]

can you add sockets to corrupted gear?

[still rock]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/planner/5n4670nm

Would be useful for you for the shock too

[last patio]

oh ok ty

[still rock]

check the BL and LW supports

(Overcharge affects the shocked ground)

(makes it 35%)

[snow sierra]

you could do a dd titan with that xD like speccing into 2h+Shield

[old shuttle]

It does work though yea? Cause that’d be actual good life ye?

[snow sierra]

maybe could be sick with the titan note that scales small notes better and dd isnt that bad

[hollow perch]

did they patch shockwave support to not work with vaulting leap slam? I remember it working a week ago, but It no longer seems to

Or is the efect just missing?

[snow sierra]

but you lose 4-5+ spell level thats kinda huge

[old shuttle]

I can’t even afford more levels cause I’m dying from the spell casts

[snow sierra]

bloodmage problems :x

[old shuttle]

I mean also having mana issues at the same time lol

No spell lvl on shield or neck slot. Still doing fine IMO

[snow sierra]

ye the first note just creates to many things to solve

dosnt feel justified at all

[glad bone]

Use inspiration support

[old shuttle]

Is bloodmage the worst ASC btw?

Which is Inspo?

[glad bone]

Spark bloodmage here crushing t12

[trail tundra]

Are there any Bonestorm mains that have used Scattershot with it? I use it and it seems very good at spoiling up the channel but it has a huge hit to paper DPS. So I was wondering if anyone else has an opinion on whether the spool up time benefit outweighs the reduced dps?

[snow sierra]

i could do t12 as soon i hit maps..^^

[old shuttle]

My Hexblast costs like 600 mana hp before the 40% cost reduction

[gusty bone]

How much leech resistance does t16 maps have?

[snow sierra]

outch

[icy dome]

does this conversion of three dragons only affect shock, ignite and freezing?

in other words, does is affect electrocute-chance?

[old shuttle]

What’s the wording on electrocute

Is it lightning dmg or shock

[icy dome]

well take for instance this support i'm using

[still rock]

lightning dmg

[old shuttle]

Should be fine

[icy dome]

should be, right

[old shuttle]

Not sure if you’ll freeze though

[icy dome]

i can freeze with another skill

[spring temple]

you can electrocute with three dragons just fine

[still rock]

They p much got rid of the old system of lesser ailment -> stronger ailment, e.g. chill and freeze are completely separated ailments now but both are applied via cold damage

[spring temple]

also three dragons does not prevent freeze at all

cold damage will still freeze

lightning will also freeze

[icy dome]

huh?

[spring temple]

cold damage doesn't chill any more

[old shuttle]

Yeah says contribute not convert

[icy dome]

ah true!

[spring temple]

but it doesn't mention freezing

this is a change from POE 1

not sure if it's intentional TBH

[still rock]

?

Yes it does lol

[spring temple]

err

[icy dome]

question is if it's bad wording (as in: meant is freezing, instead of chilling) or if it's actually meant to be chilling

[spring temple]

with three dragons on

[still rock]

Oh sorry

[spring temple]

it will not chill

[still rock]

Roger that capn dragon

[old shuttle]

Oh nvm what I said was wrong

[icy dome]

like, does the mechanic behind the mask work on freeze (and it's just badly written) or if it's actually chill

[spring temple]

but i used it for a bit on one of my builds and i do freeze and electrocute with lightning and also i freeze with cold

[old shuttle]

Why does it say “contribute and no longer” instead of “convert” xd

[spring temple]

so i can confirm it works that way as of like earlier this week

[icy dome]

so essentially the only thing you will not be able to do is shock - unless you have a skill that contributes shock

right?

[spring temple]

won't be able to shock unless you use fire damage

[icy dome]

not at all, not even if you use a support for shock?

[spring temple]

i had fire->cold gloves on so i could not shock at all

unless i used shocking ground from that monk skill

[still rock]

Because the inherent chance for cold to chill can't be converted, as it's not really a value it's a binary function

Cold damage can chill y/n

etc

they can toggle the switch

[icy dome]

ah yea right that exists, true

[left ledge]

Can rain of arrows hit a single target multiple times?

[snow sierra]

wired infernalist hexblast it is^^

[old shuttle]

As a RR or rebuild

[snow sierra]

RR ? its my second char

[old shuttle]

Reroll*

[still rock]

Each arrow is independent afaik so you'd have to word the question better

But that may answer your question

[old shuttle]

Just build something you like and respec when you get Hexblast.

[snow sierra]

more like second char i kinda done with my minion chronomancer build

[old shuttle]

Hexblast + blasphemy is just Insta act 4 to endgame speed run

But gold on a second character will make respect ez

Respec*

[snow sierra]

ye ^^

i level with srs i think

[still rock]

I think you could level with gas arrow and radiant grief with 0 investment on the tree. Maybe I should try

To prove a point

lol

[snow sierra]

oh ye

i have radiant grief

good point

[old shuttle]

What’s radiant grief?

[thin shore]

I'm running molten blast gemling with blasphemy

[still rock]

perma ignite in your presence

[thin shore]

kinda melts

[still rock]

so since they perma ignite, gas arrow always explodes

[old shuttle]

Ah ye the helm

[still rock]

its dumb

lol

With a good bow youd fly through everything

[snow sierra]

what do i do they unique bow with the 200% quiver bonus or just upgrade the bow as i go ?

[still rock]

Dualstring is my recommendation

No you need attack dmg

[thin shore]

I don't even take damage with a shield while being ranged as molten blast gemling...

[old shuttle]

Unique bow is bait

[still rock]

Just get dualstrings with good phys rolls spaced like 15-20 levels out imo

[snow sierra]

i will try that , that sound more fun then minion again

[still rock]

attack speed helps too but i dont think its necessary

[snow sierra]

and when i get hexblast ill just respcc

[old shuttle]

Yeah AS is kinda mid as a stay atm

Imo

[hollow ridge]

Is the quality effect of mana tempest bugged or just doesn't show in the buffs?

I guess it's easy to test

[still rock]

if tehres any attack damage on your way to the pathing then might as well grab it and respec when you get there

[snow sierra]

can you give me a quick low level prio for gas arrow radiant grief setup ?

[old shuttle]

Like attack speed you either want a LOT of, or you don’t care

[acoustic grail]

guys can you hold two scepters?

[crimson shale]

Is there no build plan for people at/below skill gems 12 for monk!?! All of the content creators show OP builds and then list stats w/much higher skill gem levels.

[old shuttle]

I don’t think I have any cast speed cause I just one bonk packs and cast speed drains more mana

[still rock]

Uhh I think I've seen scattershot and the fire infusion

[south meadow]

can any class use any skill? like if i have the right weapon and attributes i can use anything?

[still rock]

and if you get a third sock then do primal arm

[old shuttle]

I’m currently a mage with a thicc shield and heavy armor and also a little stick

Swish and flick

[fringe ibex]

i was thinking about using the plague finger to poison with a heavy hitting lightning spell. for poison scaling i know magnitude is good, but would scaling lightning damage work as well?

[halcyon solar]

What kind of passive would i want to distill on Amulett while playing LA Deadeye?

[old shuttle]

Your choice far away are good.

Stuff like +lvl to ___ gem is good.

[elder trail]

Can someone tell me if i can chill enemy using only fire spells and this wand?

[old shuttle]

But they can be EXPENSIVE

[left ledge]

Okay this answered it. Bc if I frenzy stack then shoot it and it’s has like 100 arrows I just don’t want it to be a waist if I don’t have too. Now how does that interact with distance. Does it count a distance when it connects or distance when shot?

[mystic shard]

is there any item or way to just make all ur energy shield go to life?

[old shuttle]

You can make ES mana

[still rock]

That's a good question I have no clue lol I'd imagine each arrow counts for the distance when the damage is applied

[old shuttle]

And Mana -> life

[still rock]

That's my guess at least

[snow sierra]

nah only the other way around, or make some ES to Mana and tzhen go MoM

[gray ferry]

I've got a buddy who just got Giant's Blood and is feeling like he's doing less dps with two 2h compared to one 2h. I haven't look at his build exactly yet but any ideas on why? 🤔

One of my guesses would be that the second 2h weapon wasn't as great and dual wielding still makes you hit with both weapons but at -30% damage penalty. Not sure what else is at play.

[spring temple]

you can chill enemies, but if you are mostly scaling fire damage on your tree then the cold damage can be pretty low so you might struggle to chill bosses/rares etc

[snow sierra]

but EB only takes flat values not scaled ones

[elder trail]

ty

[muted reef]

hey, any1 playing a minion build rn can check if you can see crit rate on your brutes?

[still rock]

Your guess is most likely true

are people actually dual wielding with GB? I thought a majority were doing 2h + shield

[old shuttle]

I think it may be listed dps being wrong but it’s actual dps is up? Idk

[gray ferry]

ik for example totems builds do because they want two +7 to melee skills

but my buddy is new to the game and just thought it looked cool

[still rock]

It does look cool

That's pretty true

Tell him shields are cooler cause alive characters are the most cool

[old shuttle]

Yeah my friends using silly anchor plus new support skill

Seems broken af in one shotting anything

[still rock]

cant be cool if youre dead

[old shuttle]

Not even using any + melee

Nah they’re weapon switching

[elder trail]

And i quess if node check last 4 seconds it's also apply for 4 seconds? (it don't say how long it last)

[still rock]

Hows that work

[old shuttle]

Using gascloud then switching and anchor dunking

[still rock]

arrow or grnade?

[old shuttle]

Not certain.

I think made

Nade*

[still rock]

Sounds fun

Fart dunker

[old shuttle]

Yeah fart run. Big boy? Nuke anchor

[still rock]

hover over recently

[old shuttle]

Actually taking advantage of the weapons switching. Which is crazy powerful and under utilised

[still rock]

Agreed theres a lot to optimize

People losing their marbles over the balance of a game that we've had for less than two weeks are annoying me

[snow sierra]

tierlist crowd

[old shuttle]

Though there is a weird bug they found. Weapon switching and having different stat reqs makes their weapon not work so they gotta take off put on the weapon

[still rock]

This channel was unbearable after the meta gem nerf

[old shuttle]

I mean the new aftershock support gem seems fucked ngl

And grim feast is clearly crazy

[still rock]

Yeah stuff is gunna get nerfed

[old shuttle]

But yea people get very hung up on stuff

[elder trail]

I know time period it checking but for how long i will get 40% el. dmg buf

[snow sierra]

my bet grim feast nerf would be that it dosnt overcap anymore

[still rock]

As long as youve done a crit in the last 4 seconds lol

[old shuttle]

Nah. Just give it a slight cool-down

[still rock]

so... 4 seconds

lmao

[old shuttle]

So like a 5 charges that regen every 0.5 seconds or something

[snow sierra]

cooldown would make it totaly useless imo, or it would be still to strong

the overshield is just to good as a hp buffer

[old shuttle]

Cause you clear one pack and bam, +1800 shield xd

[old shuttle]

I mean bloodmage has one

[snow sierra]

No it has not

[old shuttle]

So either a % or a soft cap

[elder trail]

now i read that again... i'm stupid xD

ty

[still rock]

All g

np

[snow sierra]

it has a the skill in text...but it comes with a drain that just kills your overshield by default

if you could build it to a degree bloodmage would be so good

[old shuttle]

It has a cap of a blood orb on crits to a cool-down iirc

Or is that on its kill. Either way there is a weird soft cap

Meanwhile grim feast xd

[snow sierra]

Bloodmage one is on kill & all few seconds on crit

[old shuttle]

Yeah but also a 25% chance on kill not 100%

[glass saffron]

Weapon switching is a lot of fun

[snow sierra]

grim feast isnt 100% too^^

[old shuttle]

But grim feast does have the weird presence thing meaning nearby and unstable

Unscaleable

(Can scale presence size I guess but not really)

[snow sierra]

I think if you can build overshield with grim feast it will allways be a problem considering how rarely good builds get hit

[cobalt niche]

Need help on deciding which route to go for endgame. Just hit Maps and I have been struggling just doing charged staff power charges build. Would Ice strike, Falling thunder, or Flicker strike be the move for endgame?

[still rock]

alpha howl

basically offscreens

[old shuttle]

Oh true double. That is big

I only know the sceptres

[still rock]

12m is more than my screen can see

maybe if youre playing on mega super giga widescreen you could see it

[last arrow]

been a while since i've used Blackflame. Since it turns any ignite to chaos dot, am I still trying to go towards fire dmg, or full chaos damage?

[still rock]

I think at normal aspect ratio its like 8ish to 9ish meter for edge of screen

[old shuttle]

Fire dmg

Chaos dmg up won’t scale the dot

[still rock]

It makes the enemy take chaos damage from your ignites but your ignite magnitude is still scaled only by fire damage

[last arrow]

gotcha, thanks so much for the response! Goign to try it out on explosive concoction

another question regarding that. I know ignites scale with the hit dmg of the initial hit. Is the only way to scale ignite basically "increased magnitude of ignite" AND the hit dmg? (i.e., projectile dmg, fire dmg)

[old shuttle]

Kinda yea. Some stuff reads “increases ignite magnitude” as you said

And you can make em take more chaos

With wither or despair curse

[last arrow]

perfect thanks. il ltry to do that. it's mostly projectile because ranger has like zero fire dmg nodes around it lol

[still rock]

When you say scale I'll assume you mean scale the damage value itself and the answer to that is yes, but you can also make ignites do their damage over a shorter period of time (should read "Ignites deal damage x% faster") so there are ways to increase your overall dps outside of just hit and magnitude scaling

[acoustic island]

I've got through the game and now i'm into cruel but I'm having to rely on simply lurking around and hitting first, not enough shield or HP and I have no idea what to do, current "build" is a frost scorc I have high dmg on one ability but god damn im so lost with this skill tree

[still rock]

Also using flammability and fire exposure helps too obviously

[gusty trellis]

According to patch notes, this Merc build has not been touched upon in a negative way. but how can it be that with lvl 45 in the middle of act 3 I do the bosses kinda zero dps - I have skills gems at max (10) which works the same as the supp gems (max lvl 2) https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/lolcohol-grenadier-mercenary?weaponSet=set1#changelog-3

[last arrow]

i've checked most spots for the ignites deal dmg x% faster, and I can't really fidn that on items or the skill tree. I'll keep checking tho

so flammability will also help with dmg? even though they're taking chaos dmg?

[old shuttle]

Oh true. Blasphemy + Flamabily & despair. Stonks

[last arrow]

or are you strictly talking about fire ignites

[still rock]

oh sorry i forgot about blackflame

despair in that case

[last arrow]

np you're good

[still rock]

and wither

[old shuttle]

Wouldn’t flamma increase the initial hit!

?*

[still rock]

True

Idk what would be better

PoB pls

[last arrow]

haha for real

[old shuttle]

Both

[still rock]

doedres and blackflame

[last arrow]

we'll see. im also trying to use alchemist's boon, so im not sure ill have enough spirit for despair and flamm

[old shuttle]

Or amulet with +curse annoint

[serene socket]

Hey I’m just starting out this game how do I become a infernalist

[astral willow]

doedre's is cracked. with the cast speed increase from inferalist demon form you barely notice the downside

[still rock]

Im using it for temp chains despair

love it

[still rock]

Follow your quests

trial of sekhema is to ascend

[stuck coyote]

What builds do people run for sorc that feels good to play?

[last arrow]

he's talking about the ring in this case, but yes that one is good too

[stuck coyote]

I really don't want to reroll

[last arrow]

spark and firewall

[still rock]

oh lol yeah

forgot abt the other doedre

[stuck coyote]

spark and firewall in t16s?

[cobalt niche]

Need help on deciding which route to go for endgame. Just hit Maps and I have been struggling just doing charged staff power charges build. Would Ice strike, Falling thunder, or Flicker strike be the move for endgame?

[last arrow]

no clue sorry. idk about endgame builds

[stuck coyote]

I am a CoF comet refugee, swapped over to elemental storms but it feels like crap in terms of speed

[still rock]

Ice strike seems insane with how easy freeze buildup is rn

[winter gale]

does anyone know wahts the name ofarmor that deal 100 fire dmg to nearby enemys???

[stuck coyote]

and with the freeze nerfs it's garbage on rares and uniques

[still rock]

Try frost bolt ice nova ig

Idk what the dmg looks like but thats the classic Cast on Crit spells

dunno how much energy gen that requires tho

[serene socket]

Is there a decent guide to go by for infernalist witch or a particular person that’s recommended

[winter gale]

does anyone know wahts the name ofarmor that deal 100 fire dmg to nearby enemys???

[still rock]

are you talking abt radiant grief? its an ignite that does perma 100 base "hit" for magnitude scaling

[mellow escarp]

Do "increases to minion damage" affect ignite damage inflicted by effects such as Infernal Hound?

[still rock]

technically yes

[old shuttle]

RF at home

[still rock]

if they hit harder fire hits they do more ignite dmg

[mellow escarp]

Well, the effect I'm referring to is

Minions Ignite Enemies within a radius of 1.5 metres as though dealt Base Fire Damage equal to 20% of Minion's Maximum Life

[old shuttle]

Hmm flammability double dips in fire DOT doesn’t it

Cause bigger initial and increasing the DOT

[still rock]

Yes and exposure

[old shuttle]

Crazy

[still rock]

curse and exposure is important to scaling ele dmg which is why stormweaver is great

[still rock]

in that case no

only scaling their life would increase that value

[old shuttle]

Unless you buff your minions fire dmg with a Neck no?

With the “your minions have your neck” thing

[balmy lion]

is this good or bad

[still rock]

Well yeah but specifically that statline is what I'm referring to there

[icy dome]

should be around 1 ex if you look on trade

[old shuttle]

Also does the hammer that makes you scale with minion stats means that necklace node has no downside?

[mystic shard]

any way to just get all your energy shield, after boosts, to health?

[still rock]

Hmm probably but I dont think its a good unique to lose a sceptre

so wouldnt matter anyways

[old shuttle]

But funny hammer >:(

[still rock]

its a strong effect but you lose too much taking it from a weapon

[old shuttle]

Infinite loop. You put that annoint on your neck.

Bam you minions get it. You no longer have the annoint. You regain. Bam you have like a +life on your neck. Life bounce infinity

I’m very tired

[still rock]

I don't think so

[steep thistle]

does vitality support gem make more sense on herald of ash or time of need? Like is herald ALWAYS active?

[still rock]

whichever you have more free sockets on

[mystic shard]

no items? thx for reply bro

[old shuttle]

But what if though no? You also have like, an aura that needs a specific int stat that’s only solved by the neck. You reapply every tick.

[steep thistle]

so it would regen equally no matter which skill?

[still rock]

Correct

[steep thistle]

ty

[mystic shard]

seems so hard to get shit to hp, if anyone thinks its relatively possible to get 10k hp as either an infernalist witch or blood mage.

(to the player not minions)

lemme know.

(Pre overflow)

[old shuttle]

Quick someone waste an annoint for a meme xd

[old shuttle]

All I can imagine is silly hammer with minion nodes

[still rock]

Idk if anoints work for that

probably not though cause minions dont get the passive tree

[old shuttle]

I mean I ain’t rich enough to try it lol

[still rock]

but I could be wrong who knows

Just doubtful

[mystic shard]

wait so this is the players hp?

[old shuttle]

And it’s not about that. It’s about you losing your neck.

[mystic shard]

how does this work?

hammer?

[old shuttle]

Then losing the neck that loses your neck.

[still rock]

dw about it lol

[old shuttle]

Yeah funny int hammer. “Your minion mosifiers also affect you”

[mystic shard]

OOOOOOOOOO

[old shuttle]

So the numerous 8% Inc hp nodes affect you I’d assume

[mystic shard]

so its an item?

int hammer? what is this int hammer?

[old shuttle]

Yeah 2h hammer. 100 int and a chunk of strength

[mystic shard]

this may be the miracle I need

whats it called

[still rock]

only minion damage

[mystic shard]

and I dont need to have the minions out?

[static thicket]

Any tips for managing mana better on a witch hunter spark build?

[mystic shard]

use lifetap support gem on spark

[old shuttle]

Nvm I’m stupid

Scam

[still rock]

try mana remnants if youre shocking consistently, might be good I havent tried it yet

[mystic shard]

nooooooo

I was so close

[pure parcel]

When is "extra damage" calculated? Is there a certain point where I've had enough +attack nodes that I'd get more from switching a few to extra damage nodes?

[static thicket]

I thought about that but not sure about if I'd be able to get enough life regen either

[mystic shard]

fuck me up the fucking pusssyyy fuuuuuuuccckkkk

damnit!

why is hp so fucking nerfed!

fuck sake!

lol.

[old shuttle]

Yeah HP is tough.

[mystic shard]

it sure is

[old shuttle]

I can think maybe STR stack gemling

Or titan. With attri % up

[still rock]

If it works like it did before then it is calculated after the source damage and before conversion

[old shuttle]

How much life can you get on ring?

[mystic shard]

I guess blood mage with life remnants too

[old shuttle]

Cause double breach ring 200 life and then neck with huge % life would go crazy

Kaoms for another 1k. Already like 3k life from 4 items

[mystic shard]

"then neck" ? also getting +% to life seems impossible

[still rock]

% increased max life is an affix on amulets

[old shuttle]

Basically the only % life in the game

[still rock]

aside from ascendancies theres like one node I think near warrior

Titan will have best life scaling in the game

for now

or maybe infernalist

havent looked at the numbers to compare specifically

[old shuttle]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/oq53RDKIl life ring

[balmy lion]

please tell me gold drops better at end game

[mystic shard]

titans got +15% max hp.

+8% str and 50% from small passives.

Witch infernalist has +12% max hp, 2nd best tbh.

[civic charm]

Has anyone tried to do falling thunder as a full slam build? is it any good

[old shuttle]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/2oDPZ3jck xophs blood

[nova oak]

Hiii I just unlocked dual weal two handed weapons on my warrior, there’s a section on the skill tree that increases damage done by two handed weapons, and another branch that increases damage to one handed weapons, because I’m duel wielding two handlers now, does that damage increase count to the one handed or two handed weapon branch on the skill tree?

Sorry this sounds dumb lol idk how else to word it

[old shuttle]

Doubt it. I’d assume it checks for one handed tag and boosts them

[still rock]

They're counted as 2handed weapons for the purpose of those nodes

[nova oak]

Okay so continue boosting two handlers on my skill tree even though I’m dual welding two handlers?

[still rock]

Yes

[nova oak]

Kk thank you lol

[nimble fern]

what element do people usually use with a bow. im a monk and i got to mapping and got my ass beat so want to do a aoe dmg bow build but want chaos and poison maybe

[lucid glade]

How does "x% extra damage as fire damage" work ? Is it after all other % have been applied, effectively doing x% damage more or ?

[earnest walrus]

I didn't see any pins, but are there any good resources to help understand how to make your own build? I think I'm stuck thinking in Diablo/rpg ways and not appreciating how creative you can really be in poe.
Never played the poe 1, mid way through campaign in 2, but I want to learn this stuff. Not to be hardcore, but to just do my own fun thing

[still rock]

But idk the efficacy of dual wielding 2h rn, I haven't looked at it, you get a dmg penalty for dual wielding

just something to note

[mystic shard]

how much % does thsi neck give?

[nova oak]

Yeah I might take it off, 3x strength requirement is really screwing every other aspect of my build lol

[old shuttle]

I think it’s mostly for stat sticking with + lvl if I had to guess.

[still rock]

From what I've heard yeah for totems

[old shuttle]

Perfect blood is like 20% I think

[mystic shard]

also kaoms?

wow nice!

now we're talkin

[nimble fern]

are necklaces with a node tree passive expensive i have one but idk how much to sell for

[old shuttle]

Depends on the node. But yes

[still rock]

Find a skill/damage type you want to focus on, pick a weapon or spells, look at the interactions that skill has with other skills for utility, then start pathing a tree for things that scale that concept

That's what I do atleast

[nimble fern]

50% increase shock buildup to electrocuted and 50% electrocute build up to shocked enemies

[still rock]

Sometimes you can start with the interaction part if there's a particular interaction you find interesting or strong

[nimble fern]

idk what to sell for

[old shuttle]

How much was the allocate worth? Any idea

[still rock]

Nobody really knows what anything is worth rn

[nimble fern]

nah tbh my friend was grinding hardcore poe2 then quit and he gave me some stuff so idk he made it

[mystic shard]

What is kaoms?

[jagged dune]

is armour worth building at all?

[still rock]

To be frank, its worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it

lol

[old shuttle]

Kaoms chest. +1k life. No spirit

[old shuttle]

Ofc

Kaoms heart I think it’s called?

[old shuttle]

I’d say check the price of the distilleds

[jagged dune]

just wasn't sure if it was viable over ES/Evasion. trying to help my brother with survivability as a merc

[old shuttle]

Start from there. Cause some are like, 600ex

[heady flower]

I Use a sorceress with Chaos inoculation. Are my life Flasks now Useless?

[jagged dune]

as a monk i just stack ES/Evade and he's been going for armour and getting popped left and right in t2/3

[jagged dune]

yes

[old shuttle]

You always want capped res. Always want good life/es (probs ES, grim feast is insane)

[earnest walrus]

I guess my struggle is approaching just how open building can be. But, I'll try to start with just a skill to build around

[old shuttle]

And then you get a mixture of evasion and armor.

Maybe a shield for a chunk of block

[still rock]

I think you want to have access to armor break effects to scale armor with scavenged plating for it to be really effective at the end of the day, but it's still going to add EHP to physical damage even if you dont. Taking things like Heatproofing will only increase its efficacy as a defensive to solely focus on.

[jagged dune]

oh yeah i run grim feast. it's absurd. i don't think he is res capped. need to work on getting him better armour and ES then

[heady flower]

Is there no way to get any use out of them at all?

[old shuttle]

I mean you’re CI. You’re already well off it’s fine.

Outside of pot heals minions, which may not even work

And there’s a “life flask gives ES” node I think

[jagged dune]

what's scavenged plating? i don't see in passive tree

and i'm only familiar with monk stuff still lol

[still rock]

I find it more effective to be reductionist in the beginning and then add on utility/interactions from where you started with your original concept.

e.g. "I want to do physical damage with bows, so I have to pick from rain of arrows, snipe, or spiral volley. How do those skills interact? What things do they need to be effective? I see I need frenzy charges so now I need to find frenzy charge generation."

And the more game knowledge you have the more extrapolating you can do to scale dmg/add utility. Sorry to be vague but that's the general philosophy I follow

[oblique bloom]

How much do level 2 support gems cost? I need more healing on my low level warrior, I have 57% armor rn, are there any better options than to just use life thief?

[still rock]

spirit gem

[oblique bloom]

My character is level 8, so limited options

[old shuttle]

Ele res and life

[mystic shard]

nice, can this kaoms ever have energy shield on it, or is this impossible?

[old shuttle]

But also 57% armor at lvl 8 just keep playing

[jagged dune]

you won't be able to use them until you're a specific level anyway. just get them when you are at the level they start dropping

[oblique bloom]

What is ele res?

[mellow escarp]

How does ignite work when the target already has ignite applied? I'm psure it doesn't stack, but what does happen?

[old shuttle]

Don’t think so. It’s a unique. So outside of weird Vaal maybe

[oblique bloom]

True true

[mystic shard]

thx for all the help =)

[old shuttle]

Takes highest IIRC

[mellow escarp]

Ty, makes sense. So nothing happens if a Stronger ignite has 0.001s left and I try to apply a weaker ignite?

[fading sorrel]

can i do cast on shock and cast on crit ? or do they share energy

[harsh moon]

Is it anyone experience that fire sorc skills are underperforming? perhaps its bc im using firestorm but would like some build advice

[earnest walrus]

No apologies man, I really just appreciate advice at all, so thank you!

[old shuttle]

If it’s based on POE 1 they’re all “active” but it only uses the strongest

[still rock]

Assuming it works the same as in PoE1, multiple ignites can exist on a target but only the highest value ignite will deal damage

jinx

[old shuttle]

[still rock]

Make sure you are using a source of fire exposure and possibly also flammability

[mystic shard]

the blood mage can convert their body armours energy shield to life.

Would that body armours energy shield, boosted by your energy shield% talents, convert it all that to life?

[mellow escarp]

Oh interesting, that's great then.

[old shuttle]

Over 1k es chest?

[still rock]

I'd have to test as this doesn't explicitly say "converts"

[old shuttle]

Oh does it not say convert hmmm

[mystic shard]

well u can get 500 energy shield on a body armour, like 500% more energy shield talents.

That's like 2500?

if it works that way

[still rock]

Find a blood mage with that node and ask em lol

[old shuttle]

Cause yeah i was gunna say if it says “convert”. I can check tomorrow if I get reminded

[mystic shard]

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OR rather it just adds that life on sorry, not convert it.
May work?

[kindred plank]

I've played Ranger and Witch through campaign, but playing Sorc now. It feels so much weaker then Ranger and Witch.Am I doing something wrong? Lol

[mystic shard]

or rather add it on I mean.

[old shuttle]

How urgently do you need to know

[still rock]

Oh, then no it doesnt work like the way youre thinking it does, it just takes the ES value of your body armor

[old shuttle]

Cause I can test now if ya need. But I’d rather do it later haha

[mystic shard]

yeah sure but ur body armour may be boosted due to increasing talents

[old shuttle]

I’d assume not though

[still rock]

So if the ES value on your body armor is 1000 then it adds 1000 max life

[mystic shard]

be awesome if someone could test it, i cnat sadly

yeah but are we sure?

have u tried it?

it may be a bit different than other talents

[still rock]

No but by the wording there's no indication it should gain increased energy shield modifiers from global sources

No other node or effect has ever worked like that

[mystic shard]

I guess

[golden sluice]

Merc level 5 battle hardened or remorseless

[still rock]

And as of right now, based on trade at least it seems the top-end for ES values on body armor is at about 1000

But that'd be insanely expensive

[nimble fern]

do you need physical damage for a bow or projectile damage or both

[old shuttle]

Technically better than kaoms

[still rock]

as long as you dont take chaos dmg xD

[snow sierra]

My body armor has 1200 ES if you only want es that is 😛

[still rock]

The value of that completely depends on the stat lines you're referring to, whether they're locally on the weapon itself or global, and the skill you're wanting to scale

[main spear]

Is there any good Warbringer start up builds?

[nimble fern]

makes sense

[long warren]

Warbringer, just hit maps and getting destroyed, should I respect totems or try the str stacking corrupted blood warcry thing?

[still rock]

From the builds that I'm aware of that are commonly accessible it's one of those two

I'm working on a bowbringer rn but I'm still in a3 cruel

but its going well

I'll probably publish the build when I get to maps and see how good it is

[mellow escarp]

"you" does not include my minions, does it?

[plain crane]

I need some help 😩, i have a decent mace but I can't equip it because of giants blood should I cut giants blood and shield for around 2x damage?

[still rock]

It does not

[vital crow]

anybody know where this drops?

[mellow escarp]

Shucks, okay. Thanks

[still rock]

Anywhere

[snow sierra]

With luck but you mostlikely never see it

if you want to make a build with it forget it unless you have 6k ex banked

[nimble fern]

will anyone sell me their trash for some exalt i need gold to respec LUL

[snow sierra]

i have stash tab full of rings xD

[old shuttle]

Chance + Stellar Amulet

[nimble fern]

i need gold 😭

[old shuttle]

3 ex for a white neck lol

[snow sierra]

yes get lucky bro 😉

[gusty bone]

When you take CI, are you considered on low life?

[old shuttle]

No

[still rock]

Is there any word on the street abt ilvl requirements for Chancing?

[old shuttle]

No idea

[pearl sluice]

Hey guys, how everybody is doing? I'm trying to do a melee fire witch, trying to do some synergy between the mace and fire spells, or maybe using the spirit from infernalist to summon minions.

But I'm having a bad time creating that synergy, you guys can help me somehow? I thought about maybe something that converts my physical damage to fire damage

[twilit cairn]

i got 2 rare rings with 4 affixes, they can be exalted twice... is there a way for me force a specific affix on it?? like with essence or some way i dont know about?

[still rock]

I've used one and poofed a heavy belt then havent touched them since

lol

[harsh moon]

can someone link a fairly knowledgable fire sorc build if possible? im strugglign way too much D:

[snow sierra]

i doubt there is one i got the mana to es amulett 2 times on level 20 amus

[still rock]

that's good enough for me ty

[snow sierra]

and considering any base no matter the item level cost 3ex on those i would say it would be save to assume chance orbs dont care

[stiff ether]

Hello!
I have an mind over matter invernalist build. But i kinda want to pivot to a chaos inoculation setup with shields. I got earlier today some equips that i thought might help in this transition. But im kinda afraid to invest the gold on changing many nodes in my passive tree because it would take some time to grind the gold back. Specially if the "new" setup is not up to par.
Can anyone more knowledgeable in these witch builds help me out? im happy to joing a VC and screenshare.
I would really appreciate the time and help 😄

[snow sierra]

How mutch Es do you have ?

when you equip your gear with your MoM setup, if you have EB just despecc it to tell

[stiff ether]

thats the thing. i could have more, but i havent respec my nodes yet. i would like someone to VC and check if what im about to do is fine or not

[snow sierra]

Like or calculate your base ES value from your gear

[stiff ether]

ive placed the gear im planning on using (havent changed the body armor yet) and ive got 470 Es. Mind that in my current tree i havent selected any Es nodes yet

i feel its too low

thats why im afraid

[snow sierra]

What class are you ?

[opaque sparrow]

Quick question, is there any inherent stat gain as you level, outside of gear/passive tree?

Like do you gain 10hp per level etc

[stiff ether]

i dont know if all the % form passive tree would scale that

[stiff ether]

infernalist

[snow sierra]

So you dont plan on using the life reserve notes ?

And to you have a tree planned for the transition

[stiff ether]

is it ok for you to join a vc? feel like i could show you what ive got for now

[snow sierra]

sure

[pearl sluice]

Whats the best build right now for warrior

[thorn sorrel]

Cany anyone please help? I dont know why I can't use this maul. ( I do have the passive node that lets me dual wield two-handed maces )

[last patio]

what is CI?

[mystic shard]

So lets say passive max 2500 hp you can get from just leveling up, + focusing strength, and some random talents.

So apparently u can get 2 ring/1 necklace that give 200 hp each.

This necklace, perfected blood, also gives 20% max hp.

And Koams heart, a chest, gives exactly 1000 hp.

That combine with the 8% +30 hp u get from campaign, and 9% from blood mage.~

+3% from that one talent that increases max life.

The about, lets say passive max 2600 you can get from everything else.

lets say u get +100 life on everything other item slot else, + focus/shield (you can get max life on a one handed weapon too right?)

So 4700 + 40% = 6580

Seems about the max hp you can get before overflow, I'd guess anyway, taking out those jeweled sockets from the passive tree, whatever they do.

If there is % max life from jewelled sockets, lemme know.

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I think is the maximum possible life, for a blood mage, before, passive jeweled sockets, whatever they do.

Am I missing anything?

EDIT: Learned you can get "grand spectrum rubies, that give +2% max life, per jewelled socket from passives

[rugged kraken]

Can we get 200 hp each on amythest rings? we still need chaos res right

6580 seems really high to me for some reason

I think its really hard to stack HP

Your probly right though

[mystic shard]

another 48% from all jewlled sockets

so

[rugged kraken]

I think the highest ive ever seen was like 4800

[spring temple]

where you get 48%

grand spectrum is limit 3

and only gives stats based on other grand spectrums

[gray ferry]

Anyone know if the self fire damage from Pyromantic Pact would count as a hit for this? 🤔

[mystic shard]

**4700+88% = 8836

If we cant get as much as Im saying, 8000 for a conservative number**

[thin shore]

question for the enthuisiasts: at which point was taking polymathy worth it to you?

[charred wing]

looks like u only have about 500 str based on ur gem availability and u need like 520ish..

[keen karma]

could somebody help me out with my build direction? https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1319666566710956032

[still rock]

Depends on if that damage is counted as a hit or not. My guess is no but ideally that effect doesnt happen very often anyways, right?

[gray ferry]

I'm stacking max fire res and life regen so the self damage is actually rather negligible

[still rock]

How often does it happen though

I havent tried it yet

[gray ferry]

Somewhat often, my totems are fairly mana costly

Since I'm stacking +gem level

I guess I could always invest into the node and check the numbers myself I just need a few more levels to do so

[still rock]

Hm.. i think you could test via character sheet "dps" if you dont have any other damage buffs from taking a hit

[gray ferry]

yeah fair

[still rock]

We're like kids in the 80s that had to test whether they could put metal in the microwave or not

[calm wraith]

where does melee dmg come into play when it comes to attacks? my primary dmg skill is ice strike, which converts 80% phys to cold. I figure I should prioritize stacking elemental/cold dmg and make sure i have high phys dmg on my weapon. But not sure where this increase happens or if its worth it for my plan

[still rock]

As long as the source of the dmg is melee tag then this will be increased damage additive to other applicable increased dmg modifiers

[calm wraith]

hmm so worth it since my primary attack skill is ice strike which is melee

[still rock]

yes

[calm wraith]

i like the cluster for the attack spd and range as well

[still rock]

IAS seems good for ice strike to make de freeze happen more I'd assume

[calm wraith]

ias?

[ionic bobcat]

If I'm using totems, and I have a passive node like "Damage penetrates 15% fire res" does that apply to damage dealt by my totems too?

[still rock]

increased attack speed

[calm wraith]

ah, yea that's what my thought was

[last patio]

seeing everyone sell things strictly in divines is like watching people try to deal strictly in 1000$ bulk sums

[still rock]

yes

[still rock]

atp I'm assuming the 1divine is basically saying "offer me something"

[last patio]

I've never even considered haggling lol

I oughta try it lol

[still rock]

I just need to learn korean

to become a better haggler

[last patio]

lmao

no joke

why do you think they and the chinese are so...business oriented with these games?

I seriously feel like almost all of these asian named traders are literally employed to do so

like making paychecks doing this

[still rock]

completely irrelevant to PoE but asian culture is just different than the west

[ruby chasm]

what makes level 14 ice strike in particular so strong?

[still rock]

I think its just implying you swap to ice strike at that gen level

[oak jetty]

had a thought about Doryani's Prototype for Stormweaver spectres. Since getting two good Ventor's (for negative lightning res) is both crazy expensive and makes building resists really hard, what about using Conductivity + Shackles of the Wretched? Witch gets nearly 50% curse effect from the tree easily, + 10% quality + 25% from heightened curse.

[thorny moss]

, can someone send me some marauder builds and links for pobb

[still rock]

in terms of why, could be a lot of different things - your pathing for this particular build, or other support gems become available, or you have access to something you didn't before etc

[last patio]

I recall leveling monk being mega ass pre ice strike. Melee is really strong but till you're able to freeze everything you're only able to give mobs a tap here and there while spending all your time back pedaling

[still rock]

Sounds like a cool interaction, I guess it would depend if whether or not Doryanis takes into account for the curse -res or checks for the value beforehand

[white timber]

Hey not looking for build, but for general idea. What we do with skills with half conversion, since you cant really invest into one of elements, or phys

[last patio]

ice strike is basically where melee comes online

till then, people like raxx have suggested playing them like a ranger

[still rock]

Lean into attack damage or melee/proj dmg would be the easiest answer

since you get scaling either way

or like 2h damage

etc

[last patio]

jesus

this was for a quarterstaff build that deletes the whole screen with 1 button

[spring temple]

Pillar?

that kinda look like my tree

[still rock]

just getting attributes basically

it looks horrendous though visually lmao

[ruby chasm]

i was disintigrating everything with my glacial cascade build i freestyled

(atleast in cruel act 2)

[still rock]

attributes and jewel slots

[ruby chasm]

i was getting my ass beat a bit before that

[orchid narwhal]

Orb of storms video says lightning spells but the descriptions says skills. Does galvanic shards trigger orb of storms? Trying to make a lightning gemling.

[last patio]

I've always wondered how far you could push dipping into other class nodes. That's just nuts tho, it doesn't look efficient at all, but I guess it works cause that build is broken

here's mine

[void notch]

What build are all the stormweavers using? The ladder is full of stormweave

[last patio]

chronomancer with monk nodes

[last patio]

yeah monk is very strong when it comes online. I teleport everywhere instantly 1shotting the screen basically

[still rock]

I'd trust the tooltip over the videos

[last patio]

with chain freeze

thankfully the chain freeze nerf wasn't bad

[still rock]

Try it and see but I assume it's all skills with the lightning tag

[last patio]

i wish people on the ladder could list their social media, I wanna see what they're doing

[tulip fog]

if i take this and i have pure evasion boots does that mean im getting no effect from it? since there is 0 armor on the boots which would technically be the lowest

[still rock]

Correct

[tulip fog]

dang, ok

[calm wraith]

is there a way to see my total freeze buildup for a particular skill?

i don't see anything in the skill info window thing that i can expand

[outer sluice]

How do I put a skill into a support socket?

[thin shore]

you just drag and drop it

[outer sluice]

Really? I tried it and it won't work

[thin basin]

what are you trying to put

[ruby chasm]

Is 35 max ms on boots?

[still rock]

up to 5% from the vaal implicit as well would make it 40%

but GL

lol

[granite ice]

Which is the best DESTILED for galvanic mercenary? Any can responsse me please ?

[lusty laurel]

Speaking of galv merc, for the crossbow what would be ideal weapon prefixes? %phys, added phys and added lightning? Or is element % dmg > added lightning

[gusty flicker]

what is a last good support gem for lightning arrow? I dont struggle with mana and want more raw damage

[north gull]

where can i find a monk ele build

[still rock]

lightning infusion probably assuming your bow is all phys

[opaque sparrow]

Quick question, is there any inherent stat gain as you level, outside of gear/passive tree?

Like do you gain 10hp per level etc

[pearl sluice]

I thought about using avatar of fire, it'll take me 30 to 40 points to get there from witch starter point, tho, it'll be useful for the skill points and str scalling health with infernalist passive, I'll be using a mace and shield, using magma shield and infernal cry. I want to focus in fire damage and ignite for it to let me cast and fight decently.
Energy shield and armour for defense and maybe minions or harald of fire and things like that, being a spellblade/battlemage, it'll be a hard investment but I think it'll work well, could someone please give me some tips or something like that?