2┃after-acts-help

[fresh jetty]

ah, id thought most builds are completely spec'd into one of the 3 stats

[dusky star]

evasion ES hybrid is quite popular on stuff like monks, even LA deadeyes

because ES is so powerful (and relying on life only is suicide)

[fresh jetty]

what makes ES stacking so much stronger than HP stacking?

[dire solstice]

are there more normal items i should be picking up besides the amulet?

[fresh jetty]

i thought they were two sides of the same coin

[dusky star]

ES has passive nodes on the tree to give you +ES%, life does not - it also has grim feast, which is insane

[rotund gorge]

when you're rolling for maps, and you vaal them, what do you do with the failed ones? the pure suffix ones, the increase gold drop ones?

[dusky star]

it will be more balanced in the future, it's not balanced well right now

[dusky star]

well pure suffix are not fail, they're citadel fodder

or potentially expedition maps, if the "waystone% increases logbook drop rate" thing is true

[rotund gorge]

ooh the expedition logbook thing I didn't know about, thanks

[dusky star]

I haven't confirmed it, just seen it mentioned

[junior hornet]

weird question but could somebody copy Original Sin's text for me? 😄 I can't do that from the trade site

[dusky star]

(it's confirmed that waystone% works for fragment droprate from citadels)

[dusky star]

Innocence rose to godhood not on inspired faith,
but on the vilification and hatred of another.

https://poe2db.tw/us/Original_Sin

[rotund gorge]

Thank you. this was gold @dusky star

[fresh jetty]

just curious, does POE tend to buff weak stats up to par or just nerf the strong ones?

[junior hornet]

no I mean copy it for PoB should've mentioned

[dusky star]

it works to just copy from trade and straight in to pob, but you can also just make it yourself from items

all uniques are there

[junior hornet]

oh wait ur right

thanks

[dusky star]

haha all good

[dusky star]

most poe1 players would say primarily the latter, but they do buff underused skills - in the case of ES/grim feast/mind over matter/etc. builds I would expect some kind of nerf, it's not very well balanced right now

first league will be interesting

[sullen geyser]

Does "10% increased Mana Cost of Skills" affects manacost of proc skills(Mana flare - 20% of the current mana)?

[pulsar hollow]

@dusky star quick question, maybe you know the answer, why 8% cant you get up to 15% on the pillar?
and cant you get attack speed AND a 12% dmg per 10 str corrupt?

[amber helm]

no

it can only choose one of the outcomes when it vaals

if it chooses add enchant it cant also divine the rolles

[pulsar hollow]

oh im stupid

i confused the rune stats with the corrupt

gotcha

[scenic torrent]

Anyone here want free D2 simu loot? Ill provide the Simu all you gotta do is solo it till wave 15 and let me grab my book lol.

[deep adder]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[river violet]

@scenic torrent ^

Or if you want to group up, try #2┃looking-for-group

[scenic torrent]

wack

[pulsar hollow]

got this for 4 divines, was i lucky?
either way im now all in on full dmg

(5 sockets, i should mention)

[dusky star]

5 sockets for 4d that? fucking banger

210% is not high, but 4d is great, unless prices massively dropped

who cares anyway, 5 att sockets will last you so long it doesn't matter

[arctic crag]

I see a lot of mf builds using this but how can you afford? They try to use fewer buff skills?

[echo otter]

how much would this sell for?

[cerulean mango]

Hi I just recently got 143 divines and I’ve been saving them for either a shock mage or pillar of the caged god mercenary build would that be enough for both or should I get more?

[turbid ledge]

I'm clearing maps in like 2 min an T$ bosses in 15 secs with a 80 div pillar build so yeah 143 is is enough for that, spark is mega expensive tbh

[cerulean mango]

So should I just say 100+ for shock?

[turbid ledge]

Yeah idk, I think a good want with +5 lighting spells is like 30 div alone, thats just your weapon, another 30+ for the belt and then 30+ for rings,

[small estuary]

Should I run unique maps I find asap or save them for higher tier waystones I don't yet have at the moment?

[turbid ledge]

I think to make it absolutely blast its like 200 div probably, but pillat is really got on sub 100 div and its insane when you get to the 500 div point

[cerulean mango]

It will take me 2 weeks to get anywhere near 500 with me farming 6 hours a day while people are leeching there is no way

[turbid ledge]

I know but I can easily carry 3 other people in t15 juiced maps on a 80 div budget with pillar

[cerulean mango]

Well is there any kind of monk only build you can recommend me because I’m using ice strike crit and it’s good but not amazing like a good amount of the time I die on the maps

[sly swallow]

I think you mean quarterstaff builds. and I recommend pillar of the caged god, howa

[turbid ledge]

hmm idk about monk im playng it on gemling right now

[sly swallow]

pillar works with 20 divs just fine

[dusky star]

just play the gemling att stacker

[cerulean mango]

Isn’t that mainly used on mercenary though

[turbid ledge]

yeah pillar is crazy, just get attributes and resists and go, you will kill shit before you even see it

[unreal kindle]

What's the best way to setup towers

[turbid ledge]

its better on gemling but it work on the invoker too I think

[sly swallow]

yes, but you can do a similar build as invoker for sure

a friend of mine did

maybe don't go for mind over matter as invoker then

[hearty harbor]

what are some bad map layouts that I should finish before juicing up maps?

[cerulean mango]

Time to build guide dump

[sly swallow]

there is an excel sheet somewhere. maps like mire, augary, vaal factory

[hearty harbor]

oh yeah? Ill have a look

[sly swallow]

crypt

[hearty harbor]

thank you!

[sly swallow]

np

[silk crystal]

is +4 the cap for uber encounters?

or can you artificaly go up like +6 if you were to not spec the useful nodeS?

[tribal fjord]

Am I dumb for trying to build Spark without Archmage?

[sly swallow]

no

if you play barrier invocation

it's incredibly strong this way, without archmage

[dusky star]

if no BI, and you're trying to play regular spark, then you will never reach the same dps numbers, but can be a fun challenge

[pulsar hollow]

is increased rarity not noted in the charactersheet?

[amber helm]

skill screen

on kill effects

[pulsar hollow]

ah i found it, thanks

[gleaming parcel]

with CI - why does my health pool (ES) sometimes turn purple?

[wild terrace]

I recently swapped my stat stacker to focus more on Dex for speed, and now I seem to just get stuck on every stick and stone and flail around mindlessly in place. Is there anyway to mitigate this at all?

[gleaming parcel]

are you using tempest flurry to move?

[peak terrace]

what skills for ranger apply electrocution cuz i cant find them?

[sly swallow]

there is one on top, just go through lightning skills

read the skill description

[peak terrace]

i see only electrocution arrow have that

[subtle hamlet]

My 2 div witch build

[wild terrace]

yes

[subtle hamlet]

Cries in corner

[peak terrace]

you know name of those skills?

[gleaming parcel]

that seems to just be kind of the problem with it, you get more used to it with time

[cerulean mango]

Witch looks boring

[subtle hamlet]

Evo+comet is adrenaline fueled self destruction

[sly swallow]

come on, it took me 10 seconds to find it

[wild terrace]

thought so. Maybe they'll reconsider some of these map layouts

[sly swallow]

just read the skills

[subtle hamlet]

Either they die or I die just existing

[gleaming parcel]

i think it's more likely they'll nerf att stacking lol

[cerulean mango]

Which ascension?

[peak terrace]

yea i said this one but i didnt find anything else and this skill is kinda trash for fighting

[subtle hamlet]

Infernalist , no minions.

[cerulean mango]

Why witch with no minions???

[sly swallow]

you don'T need electrolution. if you really want it, use the gloves for it or the support gem, but I recommend just increasing your overall damage

[peak terrace]

ok

[subtle hamlet]

Demon form , you also just said it was boring

[amber helm]

what site is that

dont use fextra

[sly swallow]

https://pathofexile2.wiki.fextralife.com/Skill+Gems

why not?

[amber helm]

it sucks

[cerulean mango]

Minions look boring is what I was saying

[amber helm]

use poe2wiki.net and poe2db.tw

never fextra

[gleaming parcel]

the guy who runs fextra is a douche

[subtle hamlet]

I don't think fextra updates often enough

[amber helm]

yeah, because it sucks

[subtle hamlet]

Also ego guy cause someone made fun of him iirc

[sly swallow]

ok let me check

[subtle hamlet]

Not minions. Just eye cancer.

[sly swallow]

just checked the skill gems on both websites, they both suck compared to fextralife in this regard

but I see more information for sure

but on fextra you see the gems the same way you see them ingame

[cerulean mango]

This is my first ever arpg hearing about all these cool build from different classes makes me exited to start new slots

[sly swallow]

awesome, same

I mean, I also get excited, not my first rpg

[subtle hamlet]

Play what you wish brother. Uhh I dunno if your fps will tank playing spark mage

[cerulean mango]

My ps5 should be fine right?

[subtle hamlet]

Surely you'll be aight

[cerulean mango]

The only time my fps has ever dropped is when I join random random parties with 3 other people spamming minions and mage stuff all over my screen

[subtle hamlet]

At worse you lose 30 fps and play at 20with the rest of us.

Stay away from Savanah +breach/ delirium

[sly swallow]

why?

ahh fps okkay

[cerulean mango]

That’s exactly the map my fps was tweaking on

Felt like I was back playing Roblox on my moms old phone

[amber helm]

how does poe2db.tw suck

[subtle hamlet]

Savanah will give you 5 fps

[amber helm]

it literally has everything

[amber helm]

there is no excuse for using fextra

[subtle hamlet]

Does it know why kids love cinnamon toast crunch? If it doesn't I dunno how credible poe2db is

[scenic torrent]

Anyone else not have any of the orange citadels? Ive looked very far out and no orange light

[subtle hamlet]

I have 3 but separated by 2 oceans

[scenic torrent]

Thats awful lol

I cant find them

[subtle hamlet]

It truly is

You just need to go out further brother

[scenic torrent]

I need the crisis frag to fight my 1st arbiter

[sly swallow]

when I open skill gems there is some new layout, kind of confusing. on fextra I see the gems the same way I see them ingame, with required levels and in the same order

[subtle hamlet]

Thats copper right m

The most expensive one

[scenic torrent]

Im saving 1 from all I get and selling the rest

[amber helm]

figure it out

a small price to pay for salvation

[scenic torrent]

like 410 ex atm

[subtle hamlet]

Yep the most expensive one

[scenic torrent]

Using 500% + waystones to try angd get 3 each time

[frank salmon]

which waystone should I use?

[subtle hamlet]

Top right

[scenic torrent]

This is red right? This monitors colors are so shitty

[sly swallow]

red

[subtle hamlet]

That's red, doryani

[scenic torrent]

[storm sonnet]

does delirium increase chances for audience with the king?

[subtle hamlet]

Lmao

[scenic torrent]

I have so many fucking reed man

like 7 of em

[subtle hamlet]

Does not that's for simulacrum

[storm sonnet]

ah okay ty

[subtle hamlet]

[scenic torrent]

so many reds

[subtle hamlet]

I bet a cookie you'll fight arbiter and instantly die to his first insta kill mech

Everyone does

[unreal kindle]

You know if I say something I mean it

[scenic torrent]

Should be able to almost insta kill Im a 400k dps gemling lol

[subtle hamlet]

Thats a good song

[unreal kindle]

Love that sound

[subtle hamlet]

[subtle hamlet]

He has like 5mil hp you got it king. Or was it 7 mil

[unreal kindle]

You ain't fam, so what is this we shit OOOOOOOOOOO bars bars fire fire 🔥

[scenic torrent]

I should be fine dmg wise till D3

[subtle hamlet]

I dunno if he's affected by boss atlas tree nodes. I think he is

[tribal fjord]

what type of scaling can I do for a "lots of hits" skill

[scenic torrent]

I dont think he is

[subtle hamlet]

I don't think dps is usually the issue against him. It's not dying to his one shots

[scenic torrent]

Just kill him before he does any of it

[subtle hamlet]

If you don't kill within the first 1o seconds he's going to do something stupid

And his stupid attacks overlap

[scenic torrent]

we have the 6 attemps now tho right?

[subtle hamlet]

Yup and everytime you die it resets

[scenic torrent]

Wdym it resets?

Like his help?

[subtle hamlet]

Full hp

[scenic torrent]

ye aobv

lmao

[subtle hamlet]

Unless you're with another person

And they stay alive

Oh you can't esc menu during the fight either. So no pausing

😔

[storm sonnet]

anyone got an issue to not be able to click stash tabs?

[subtle hamlet]

Should check mouse

Maybe sticky

[gleaming parcel]

probably a desync thing

[scenic torrent]

for d2 simu how much delirous do you get on wave 15?

[drowsy trail]

Hey guys,
I have a question regarding Eldritch Battery. It only counts the flat Energy Shield I have, right?

Like, all the +% I get either on gear, or passives is going to waste, right?

[amber helm]

correct

[hollow parcel]

only map owner got this?

[amber helm]

although you can get extra flat from the everlasting gaze

[drowsy trail]

Beyond that - do I have any benefit from faster energy shield recharge rate / activation?

[amber helm]

not if you dont have any

[drowsy trail]

I'm currently looking for a new armor

[hollow parcel]

can i die and re-enter? for my friends?

[drowsy trail]

nah you wont be able to re-enter

[hollow parcel]

ok, so this items is only for map onwers?

[drowsy trail]

That I can't answer. I haven't run a citadel in a party yet

[hollow parcel]

Is there a reason why the citadels are on the map more than once?

[frank salmon]

you only get one shot at them

[drowsy trail]

Citadels are for those keys you screenshotted initially, you can run each citadel only once. You need 3 of those keys (Iron, Stone, Copper) to open the door to arbiter of ash. You want to kill Arbiter more than once -> You need more keys -> You need more citadels

[peak terrace]

why 46% increased phisical dmg is T1 but 27% of same stat is T3 is this kinda bug or what?

[gleaming parcel]

at what monster level do lvl 20 skill gems start to drop?

[gleaming parcel]

that's a combined prefix between %phys and accuracy

[peak terrace]

can could i upgrade it this to be better then the rare bow? or i shouldnt try?

[peak terrace]

ow

[gleaming parcel]

possibly could be better, and only you know your economic situation

[peak terrace]

i got some decent chance?

[gleaming parcel]

are exalts hard to come by for you? i probably wouldn't slam it and would just buy a better one, 46% isn't very high

[peak terrace]

im a bit poor AND I SHOULD GAMBLE it all

[amber helm]

second is hybrid

first is normal

[peak terrace]

2-3 exalts maybe more for one map

[frank salmon]

honestly would sell that div you can do a lot with 270 exalts

[amber helm]

so the tiers are different

[peak terrace]

what?

[frank salmon]

in the currency exchange. I think 1 div it around 270 exalts still which depending on where you're at could be huge for beefing your build/juicing maps

is*

[amber helm]

a bunch of exalts is a lot more flexible than a div

[gleaming parcel]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/8GJymMvuV

i don't use bows but one if these is probably a lot better

[peak terrace]

how does this exchange work exacly cuz i put some augmentation orbs there for something else and i dont see anything happening there

[tropic quarry]

It's tough to let go, but early on in your account that pile of exalts will give you a big boost (which means more divs sooner)

[frank salmon]

put this in at alva

[amber helm]

then nobody is interested in trading augs to whatever else, which makes sense

as nobody trades in augments

[gleaming parcel]

make sure the ratio you put in is lower and close to market ratio, or it may take a while to fill

or never fill

[frank salmon]

When I sold my first div I spent 100 ex on ym build and upped my DPS by like 15K

[peak terrace]

yea doing it rn putting div in alva and then im gonna pull out exalted orbs but how do i pull out? xD

[frank salmon]

my*

[frank salmon]

did you click place order?

[gleaming parcel]

click on them

[peak terrace]

yes

[gleaming parcel]

ctrl + click to move them to your inventory

once it's filled

[peak terrace]

it works thx i must have missed it somehow

[gleaming parcel]

it probably hadn't filled when you first did it

[frank salmon]

those exalts have the potential to skyrocket your build rn

[gleaming parcel]

think of it as "placing an order" and someone else has to place an order of = or better value to fill

[peak terrace]

is this enough to buy someone?

[gleaming parcel]

depends who

[peak terrace]

xD

[peak terrace]

lets gamble xD

[frank salmon]

first thing I would do is blow some on a cracked weapon (whatever you're using)

[peak terrace]

i got those two

[tropic quarry]

I mean, I don't know where your build is (looks pretty new considering the item levels)

[peak terrace]

im not sure which one is better one have better lvl then other but the other have higher dmg

[gleaming parcel]

i would definitely just use your exalts to buy something of the trade market instead of gambling them with crafting

[tropic quarry]

But that early, even just a stack of those will be a huge jump (like spread across every gear slot)

[peak terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/digging-for-diamonds-never-give-up-gamble-keep-gambling-trash-gif-4704373444474043443

is that me?

[tall epoch]

can you still get the relic when you drop it in the resting room?

[young hazel]

What’s the best way to get jewels (preferably mana based ones if possible) and trials of quetzalotal whatever the name is

[frank salmon]

Generally I would say look for increased phys, adding phys damage and then whatever else coincides with your build the best

[hollow jay]

I got my resistances maxed out lvl 76 witch with 4200 energy shield and 500 hp and i keep getting deleted by everything in maps, any idea what to do?

[tropic quarry]

Quetzalotal is my favorite name for it so far, but both are just drops sadly so it's mostly just farming.

[peak terrace]

what was the site fore tranding?

[gleaming parcel]

once you've got HoWa - is it better to add % increased elemental damage instead of phys?

[tropic quarry]

Only real way I know to "target farm" jewels is either Sekhema for jewel chests, or the atlas passive "Local Knowledge" to hit forest nodes (which get increased jewel chance)

[frank salmon]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard

[gleaming parcel]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard

[peak terrace]

are you guys brothers?

[river violet]

Do you know what you're dying to, specifically? Chaos damage, boss slams, etc?

[frank salmon]

do you have sidekick?

[amber helm]

the aztec god is quetzecoatl, like coatl meaning serpent

[gleaming parcel]

you'll probably be able to double your DPS and EHP for like 10 exalt

[frank salmon]

https://sidekick-poe.github.io/

[hollow jay]

random mobs keep killing me

[peak terrace]

i like nightwind but idk anyone else

[frank salmon]

nah it's a tool to price check

welcome to end game hahaha

[peak terrace]

never traded

[gleaming parcel]

is this better than overwolf?

[river violet]

Out of curiosity, can you screenshot your mana flask?

[peak terrace]

i never liked trading i was scaming ppl without even trying they were just giving me money and all that stuff in other games :C

[hollow jay]

OH

lmao

[river violet]

Found your problem

[frank salmon]

oh not sure I haven't even checked out other options

[drowsy trail]

What do you guys do when map doesn’t load?

[hollow jay]

im so dumb hahahaha

so thats whats killing me constantly

[river violet]

Happens more than you'd think

Yeah, swap that out and try some maps

[peak terrace]

i got overwolf whats the thing on overwolf?

[hollow jay]

it did say suicide a lot

in the chat

[river violet]

That's usually a helpful note

[tropic quarry]

There's a button at the bottom there that says "Shortcuts"
I would use that, go somewhere not near this (like the Home or the Realmgate shortcut) then head back.

[frank salmon]

wait overwolf like the mod manager?

[gleaming parcel]

https://www.overwolf.com/app/Kyusung4698-PoE_Overlay_II

overwolf PoE overlay

[drowsy trail]

Thanks. Head back manually or via shortcut again?

[tropic quarry]

I swear people are paid to talk about overwolf and the overlay 😅

[gleaming parcel]

makes trading very easy

[tropic quarry]

Has to include the word "Overwolf" in every message or something.

[frank salmon]

oh wow looks way more convienent might switch

[gleaming parcel]

i would take that

[tropic quarry]

Manually. If that doesn't work, try restarting the game.

[gleaming parcel]

they can pay me in divines

[peak terrace]

is it possible to open overwolf without leaving game so i can instal this app?

[elfin arch]

can we disenchant items in hideout? if yes how?

[gleaming parcel]

nope

[river violet]

One of the npcs that your hideout comes with can do it. I forget their name

[gleaming parcel]

ohhh

[arctic crag]

architect of time?

[river violet]

Maybe?

[gleaming parcel]

i was thinking making them "normal" again

[river violet]

I know it's not doryani or alva

[gleaming parcel]

not converting to orbs

[frank salmon]

yeah architect of time

[gleaming parcel]

ketzuli

[arctic crag]

guy with feathered cap

[elfin arch]

both doryani and alva don't disenchant

[river violet]

That's what I said

[arctic crag]

no, you lied

[river violet]

Phone sabotaged me the first time

[drowsy trail]

Architect of time it is

[elfin arch]

oh ketzuli does, nvm

[arctic crag]

I have a question, how tall is our character in meters?

Trying to calculate the dodge roll distance mod on relics

[tropic quarry]

Nice to have all 3 nearby though.
Ctrl+click on one to identify, another to open disenchant window, the last one to open the sell window

[gleaming parcel]

fyi if you ctrl+click on ketzuli, it auto opesn disenchant window

ctrl+click on doryani for auto identify everything

[drowsy trail]

It saves so much time

[river violet]

I think a better measure would be to use a skill like ice nova and look at its radius

[tropic quarry]

How about Frost Bomb?

Nice persistent and well-defined circle.

[river violet]

Sure, same idea

[arctic crag]

I was just lazy to see if someone already calculated

[river violet]

The classes have different heights

[tropic quarry]

Well, would start with "Which character?" lol

[river violet]

So it wouldn't be a great way to measure

[arctic crag]

All my chars are ranger girl

maybe she's 1.5m?

[river violet]

Rangers can only be women so that's redundant

[arctic crag]

Well as of now

[coral grove]

I have created a monster

[river violet]

GGG has made absolutely zero claims that they'll have two genders for classes

[arctic crag]

I think Jonathan said maybe

[amber helm]

they might consider it

[arctic crag]

The question was too specific about MTX for apperance

[empty lintel]

do the people spamming theyll sell 4th ascendency shit for a div or something actually get people other than elon musk to buy it? shits easy

[river violet]

Really? Shit. I stand corrected

[arctic crag]

anyway my question is, how tall is she

[peak terrace]

idk how to use it :C

[gleaming parcel]

read the instructions

[empty lintel]

read

[river violet]

Put down frost bomb, die, and compare the length of the corpse to the diameter of the frost bomb

[peak terrace]

reading ;C

[tropic quarry]

Get one of those potions with the "remove mana from health" and spec CI. Easy test

[empty lintel]

half of this game is reading

[hollow jay]

nope i still die like a fly

lol

[river violet]

A lot of people skip that half

[hollow jay]

wasnt the mana flask

[river violet]

What was the map you died to? What mods did it have?

[arctic crag]

Btw, we need to evaluate "Sentiment" for GGG responses btw. For this question, they had to reply "maybe" diplomatically and couldn't say "no". So I am also not too hopeful that we'll be getting model MTX.

[hollow jay]

none

[river violet]

And does it still say suicide in the chat box?

[hollow jay]

but it says commited suicide

yes

can you ignite yourself?

[arctic crag]

oh I think I know when it says that, I am trying to remember

[river violet]

Okay, read all of your skills and items and screenshot any that you suspect might be killing you

Items first

Especially uniques

[hollow jay]

oh lmfao

i got it

[river violet]

Is2fg

[hollow jay]

what the fuck haha

[river violet]

I'm gonna throw you into a remedial reading class

[hollow jay]

all i saw was +4

[gleaming parcel]

lmfao

[hollow jay]

tunnelvision

[tropic quarry]

Honestly, could just be more a long-term goal.
Especially with the volume of cosmetics that this game has (both natural drops and mtx) adding another character model means a lot of graphics work refitting armor to the new models, and double the work for the future.
(Unless they just reuse character models from other characters, but that really wouldn't fit in most cases)

[young hazel]

Farming what

[hollow jay]

how will i ever combat that

[gleaming parcel]

i just love the idea of you going into maps and insta killing yourself in not 1 but 2 ways

[tropic quarry]

Farming as in "killing lots of things until they drop"

[gleaming parcel]

nice:

[hollow jay]

oh i think i understand now

[river violet]

If you die enough times you'll get the urge to figure out why and you'll repeat this cycle like Sisyphus

[subtle hamlet]

Either laziness/ scared/ or rich af

[bleak jackal]

i was looking for a ring to upgrade, got this one from the trial. my question is how do i add the modifier at the top(the increased dmg one)? can i do it with an item or is it random drop?

[empty lintel]

true

[subtle hamlet]

Vaal

Is random

Now you can't do anything to it

Cause it's corupted

[bleak jackal]

so gamble with vaal and then gamble hoping it's a good one? lol

[empty lintel]

u can annoint them if its not corrupted right

[subtle hamlet]

It's gamble within gamble

[subtle hamlet]

It's a ring

[arctic crag]

for ring I think you can only quality w catalyst no anoint

[tropic quarry]

Imagine though.

[bleak jackal]

i know i can't change that one, was looking to buy a better one off market and add the same modifier if i can

[amber helm]

yeah u cant anoint rings (until they add blight i guess)

[tropic quarry]

I already have enough trouble picking one annoint lol

[arctic crag]

Well you cant really anoint anything in poe2

you can only instil

idk where new players picked the word anoint from

[bleak jackal]

what's annoint? the emotion things for amulets?

[vivid linden]

Looking for some knowledgeable people. There is no concept of "Shock Buildup" in the game like "Freeze Buildup" right?
"Shock" is just an on or off thing. If I understand correctly it is extremely easy to therefore apply a shock effect as small as it may be https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Shock
If that's correct, then it means that Herald Of Thunder 'killing shocked enemies' is pretty easy to always trigger right? That seem to be my experience ingame but would like to confirm.
(that's in contradiction with herald of ice which requires to 'shatter' and therefore have the enemy 'fully' frozen)
Thanks

[arctic crag]

its the old name for instil

They are both equally easy (or hard) to apply based on what build you are playing.

[river violet]

You have it correct

[subtle hamlet]

Pretty sure, if they have resistance. You still technically need to "build up"

[arctic crag]

Also look at poe2wiki because poe1 doesnt have buildup iirc

[tropic quarry]

iirc, poe1 did have buildup (didn't play much shock)

[subtle hamlet]

I thought resistance just kept them from getting shocked?

[river violet]

Shock is purely a chance. There is no buildup. The chance is based on the damage of the hit compared to the enemy shock threshold

[subtle hamlet]

[amber helm]

it's chance or buildup, never both

[tropic quarry]

But yeah, poe2 you either shock or you don't and the damage/shock chance is how likely that happens.

[subtle hamlet]

til

[peak terrace]

brute force it and bought this one is that decent?

[subtle hamlet]

Then is ignite the same way?

[amber helm]

chance = each hit might apply, but when they do they will apply fully
buildup = each hit will apply, but when they do it's only partially

[river violet]

Yeah, basically

[tropic quarry]

Bleed buff: Bleed now has chance to apply bleed buildup to eventually proc bleed
😭

[amber helm]

ignite is chance

and chance is divided between flat chance and threshold chance

[gleaming parcel]

i just vaaled two Pillars in a row for 12% damage per str each

[subtle hamlet]

So shock/ ignite but freeze is special

[river violet]

The only things that build up are freeze, electrocute, and pin, I think

[subtle hamlet]

Because chilled

[arctic crag]

electrocute has buildup like freeze btw

[amber helm]

and stun builds up

[river violet]

No, chill is separate

It has nothing to do with freeze

[subtle hamlet]

[arctic crag]

just look at ailment page in poe2 wiki

that is what I meant earlier

[subtle hamlet]

Bruh

I'm getting an aneurysm

[peak terrace]

btw is it better to give it 20% more phis dmg runes or 1-20 lighting dmg rune?

[arctic crag]

looking at poe1 wiki will make you miss the buildup things

[vivid linden]

Thanks for confirming. Therefore investing in Freeze Buildup seem to be an important aspect to trigger Herald of Ice more often than not as I don't insta freeze enemies I kill.
Or I could completely bypass that necessity by using Polcirkeln's unique ring (chilled enemies are shattered), right? Since 'Chill' is the same as 'Shock' in the sense that it's super easy to apply.

[burnt viper]

dafuq haha

[arctic crag]

Also why I said based on build, I am playing shattering conc and dont even need to take a lot of freeze buildup nodes.

[bleak jackal]

if that's the case what's better to get power charges reliably? cast on shock or ice? i'm full elec dmg with ice dmg on items for herald. i was thinking of cast on shock since i seem to shock mobs more often

[arctic crag]

If you are a lightning build that does a lot of flat lightning damage, it as been super easy to shock

[keen valve]

please correct me if I'm wrong but freeze build up also comes from how high your cold dmg is right?

[arctic crag]

I am assuming its the same for ice builds for freeze

or maybe sconc is just easier to freeze idk

[keen valve]

yeah, same with shock

[vivid linden]

I'm a typical lightning / cold fubgun LA. But even without a lot of lightning damage, it seem shock is super easy to apply.

[amber helm]

more damage = more buildup

[subtle hamlet]

Ayyy im using both HoT and HoI and I've got them doing the opposite element.

[bleak jackal]

mainly light dmg on offensive nodes on the passive, also using elec skills like tempest furry. got ice dmg on gloves/rings for herald of ice

[keen valve]

so if you do enough dmg you don't need freeze build up nodes on your passive tree

[subtle hamlet]

Very nice

[subtle hamlet]

But it helps

[arctic crag]

is it possible you are using overcharge on one of the links?

[keen valve]

I guess after a certain amount of dmg it should always be close to 100% freeze

[subtle hamlet]

I think you take that one of them.

[vivid linden]

Yes same. But I notice that when lightning herald applies freeze buildup to enemy, it often do not reach the full 'frozen' threshold. Therefore cold herald doesn't trigger as often as it could.

[arctic crag]

or conduction

[tropic quarry]

Well, no.

[arctic crag]

I always mix up the text of both these supports

[tropic quarry]

After each freeze, the enemy becomes more difficult to freeze.

[amber helm]

it's a lot easier to freeze regular monsters than bosses of course

[tropic quarry]

So even with high damage, having additional freeze buildup can help depending on how much your build relies on the enemy being frozen.

[subtle hamlet]

Then you need more of that element on your rings/ quiver/ gloves

[keen valve]

possible but which ememy lives that long? 😄

[amber helm]

if you deal enough damage you should be freezing and shattering all normal monsters though

[arctic crag]

Sry not overcharge but conduction*

[tropic quarry]

Depends on your damage, their health, and their resistances (both to damage and for ailments 😅 )

[subtle hamlet]

Should be conduct and whatever the other one is that gives ice

[vivid linden]

Yep that's correct. I'm trying to make sure I understand the disprecancy between the two herald/ ailments.
Herald of thunder is supper easy to trigger, while herald of ice is harder and that's not related to the amount of flat lightning / cold damage alone. But to Frozen and Shocked being vastly different in how easy it is to apply.

[arctic crag]

I am playing shattering concoction and also doing the thing with HOI + HOT and also using voltaic mark > innervate on Cast on freeze. So in my case its easy to freeze vs shock which is why I have so much spec'd into shocking enemies.

[unreal kindle]

Any way to visually tell which things I can blink through or not?

[subtle hamlet]

Well shock is more easily applied than ice.(because lighting rod/ arrow) Because it's innately higher.

[vivid linden]

At least that's my understanding. And why Polcirkeln unique ring is popular.

[arctic crag]

For LA builds just having heavy flat cold damage should be enough right?

[merry plume]

erm, so maps turn green when i complete it, i cant repeat it?

[arctic crag]

That was my first ever char

[amber helm]

polcirkeln is if you dont have the spirit to also run hot

[subtle hamlet]

Depends on how much flat lighting you have added as well.

[amber helm]

you just run both and do enough damage to pop everything

[tropic quarry]

Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but it's probably because it's actually possible to "shock" an enemy that's already shocked and these would count for herald of thunder.
You likely aren't going to "freeze" something that's already frozen, as you have to build up again (also it's probably dead)

[vivid linden]

It's pretty obvious if you have 'frozen' all enemies you kill as the 'frozen' effect is super obvious with the monsters exploding in Ice bits.
If not 100% of all monsters you kill have that on death icy effect, then you re missing some herald of ice procs.

[arctic crag]

no I mean the porcelain (cant spell) ring is probably not needed

[vivid linden]

No it's not if you can 'freeze' a decent amount of enemies you kill normally. But sometime herald of ice doesn't proc as often as you would like if you don't have a late game build yet with good gear.

[arctic crag]

Anyway I was wrong about what I was thinking earlier when I said about we need to also think about buildup for shock, I was going to think of a scenario where it builds up electrocute but I realized flat lightning doesnt contribute to electrocute at all, so I will just scratch that statement.

[vivid linden]

I'l try to record two videos, with and witout the ring

[blazing cipher]

I have a Question how much is a Normal Stellar Amulet worth, its hard to check with all the fake ones

[peak terrace]

how do i tell which one it on??? or not i dont see difference

[keen valve]

around 120ex. if you have more, then also more ex

[arctic crag]

It wasn't that hard and it was my first char and didnt spend anything on trading at all. So if you look at the the setup they would want the herald of lightning to freeze, THAT is hard and needs a lot higher flat, but you can freeze reasonably quickly with LA. I havent played that char in a month tho so I could be misremembering.

[blazing cipher]

thanks

[arctic crag]

which one what on?

[peak terrace]

the thing on the ground

[arctic crag]

Whats the question sorry?

[peak terrace]

i placed rod close to the bottom two

give me sec i crashed game

[arctic crag]

oh like you cant see where you placed explosive?

press the undo explosive key to see circles?

[peak terrace]

kinda yes

but how do i know if they gonna destroy the rock thing that gives me buffs and debuffs?

is the color changing or something?

[gleaming parcel]

yes

[peak terrace]

xD

okay so no

[keen valve]

sometimes it helps to deactivate the remnant tooltip thingys by pressing Z

[gentle bear]

what % resistances should i aim for ? I have about 85-90 each and 65 chaos, however i keep getting randomly fucking one shot on t15 maps

[gleaming parcel]

that's plenty, you should be paying attention to the modifiers on your maps though

+300% crit chance/damage and decreased player resistances is gonna zap you if you're not careful

[cunning estuary]

What's your max hit

[keen valve]

res is not all. doesn't help if you have no other kind of defense. like low life, no ES, etc

[vivid linden]

Here is a video highlighting the difference in Herald of Ice proc with and without Polcirkeln. I setup the build pretty quickly with a few divs.
You can see I proc it decently without it and it's often enough when cleaning 'juiced maps' / breaches with a good layout.
But the difference with absolutely 100% of all kills is pretty noticeable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6eE22Yaqr0

[cunning estuary]

I thought the same thing too until I realised I only had like 2k max hit

[gentle bear]

i have 1388 life, 1878 es, using grim feast

where do i check maxhit ?

[cunning estuary]

Weird

I just mean combined life + es + dr

[empty lintel]

ive been blessed

[gentle bear]

I can post my set up if you guys are okay with photos as i play on ps5

[gleaming parcel]

i would bet you got rocked by a boosted crit

[cunning estuary]

You had a few Divs but didn't get a Breach ring with max flat cold? That was enough to push me over the "don't need Polk" line.

[arctic crag]

I was able to do it without even such good gear (no howa), you are only using lightning arrow tho, if you use LR + LA you'll be applying heavy attack damage iirc. I am not looking at skill descriptions so please take what I am saying with a grain of salt. If you want just your plain LA to shatter then you might need like ice bite or something on it.

[vivid linden]

Didn't buy any rings yet, just reused dump tab to max res : d

[cunning estuary]

Ah

Yeah it's really worth it

[vivid linden]

Seem like a good buy. Flat cold breach ring with cold quality?

[cunning estuary]

Yeah

[vivid linden]

Sounds like a plan.

[arctic crag]

just flat might be enough tbh

[cunning estuary]

I also used it to get phat cold res too

[arctic crag]

what about like bow arrow and quiver btw?

[cunning estuary]

I also don't know the maths on whether iron runes or ele damage core's are better for bow

[vivid linden]

Yep Ice bite in LA. Regular end game links https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/lightning-arrow-farmer-fubgun
Will try to get a good flat cold ring and report back.

[arctic crag]

I can go check my old char but I had already cannibalized it for my new char

[cunning estuary]

Cause you have to remember that the skills convert your base phys so the iron rune might just be more anyways

[arctic crag]

oh yea he has heavy cold in quiver and also bow

[vivid linden]

Yeah gear is pretty random. Main buy was HOWA. Wanted to see how it felt before spending multiple divs on a bow/quiver.
Im already clearing t15 and killing bosses faster than my Titan lol. Heralds for clear / Orb of storm weird interactions for bosses are too OP / broken.

[gleaming parcel]

is flat damage usually considered best in slot for quivers?

[arctic crag]

For most builds, yeah

[gleaming parcel]

anyone here a PoB expert? Got a question about my quarterstaff and the dps it does in PoB

got this thing for a divine

it does better DPS than any of the upgrades i'm looking at, up to like 10 div staffs

did i just get a good deal or is PoB being silly

[arctic crag]

I am not an expert by any means but I finally manually entered to pob2 last week and been playing around with it

The first place to start would be the "calcs"

[gleaming parcel]

i assume it was cheap because it's "advanced"

[acoustic bane]

I'm playing Poisonous Concoction and I want primarily: +Level of all Projectile Skills, % increased Attack Speed, and # to Dexterity. If it has % increased Projectile Speed and +Accuracy Rating, that's nice. If it's got some +damage on it, that's fine, but I'm not prioritizing it.

[arctic crag]

that is correct advanced is a lower base than expert

but we can see what exactly the expert can roll vs advanced in poe2db.tw

[gleaming parcel]

but when it comes to actual damage output, it seems to be outperforming most of the really expensive expert ones out there, which seemed odd to me

[gusty latch]

having trouble staying alive as monk in endgame

any advice

[gleaming parcel]

yeah, i'm there with you

are you running CI?

[arctic crag]

What are the exact mods you care about in this quarter staff btw?

[gusty latch]

im not sure what ci stands for

[dusky star]

not really, the premium quivers are stuff like +2 proj skill and the % ones (bow skills + proj speed), you just get 1 flat

[gleaming parcel]

phys%, flat phys, attack speed, crit chance, crit bonus

[manic bobcat]

So what's the deal with rituals? I understand monsters killed in previous rituals respawn in latter, cool. But do regular monsters, just spawned on the map contribute to the Tribute gains.

In other words, does it make sense to lure many naturally spawned monsters to the ritual ring before starting it?

[gleaming parcel]

chaos innoculation

[gusty latch]

no i dont have that

[manic bobcat]

Quivers are like the easiest item to get though

[wanton dawn]

They bring night's madness.

[manic bobcat]

Such a small mod pool

[gleaming parcel]

alright then i probably can't help much

[gusty latch]

i have like 200 energy sheild lol

[manic bobcat]

Yeah you are supposed to get energy shield

Chest piece is most important

The item bases matter alot, and so do prefixes

[gleaming parcel]

my survivability improved a ton when i swapped to CI, got around 4500 ES, 86% evasion, a good stun charm and took the icebreaker wheel up top

[manic bobcat]

Every build needs energy shield

Or mind over matter

[gleaming parcel]

ez /s

[manic bobcat]

What does icebreaker wheel have to do with survivability? Do you mean you don't want to get frozen? In that case, +1 charm slot seems better

[gleaming parcel]

ingenuity

[arctic crag]

Isnt LA/LR the most popular bow build atm? I'd have assumed it cares more about flat considering it only gets like 80% quiver bonus at best (so not even +1 extra projectile skill) and the flat really helps with the chaining heralds they like.

[manic bobcat]

Okay interesting. This made me curious about the available stun threshold passives. It's actually really confusing why stun threshold is so much worse than that icebreaker cluster, making it obvious to play stun charm

Like it's more than 2 times worse, and they scale the same way

[gleaming parcel]

yeah, i did it because the stun cluster is just so far away

you can get those elemental damage nodes on the way but it doesn't seem worth

[manic bobcat]

You misunderstood, stun threshold is shit in passive tree

compared to that

So you are winning here

[gleaming parcel]

ah, so even when i was taking it, it was bad?

i'm agreeing with you, i'm just saying i was trying to use those 8 points for something else

[manic bobcat]

??? I thought you were running stun charm + Icebreaker cluster. If you have stun charm, why the hell would you also get stun threshold passives?

[peak terrace]

if i need to do map 2+ and i do 3 or something higher would this count to the next quest with higher maps?

[gleaming parcel]

that's what i am doing. before that i used the stun cluster + frozen charm

i ditched that because it was using a ton of points, and i was able to invest them in icebreaker + crit elsewhere

[arctic crag]

sry I lost track of this conversation but given the same ilvl the base flat damage for expert slicing is 1.4x that of advanced, that is really the difference, but based on what mods roll, you can have an advanced that is better than all your experts.

[manic bobcat]

Right, and that is so much more efficient. I commented that I'm confused why freeze threshold is so much better in the passive tree than stun threshold. Given that both have similar charms, the balance seems very off

[gleaming parcel]

ahh got it, yeah, i wonder that too

[arctic crag]

there are so many stun threshold nodes but only like 1 freeze cluster iirc?

[manic bobcat]

The passive tree needs a lot of work. Both in balance, and in being interesting

[arctic crag]

oh wait that is what you meant?

[manic bobcat]

I do trust in GGG, more than any other game studio at least

[manic bobcat]

Please use reply IDK what this is about

Ohh, but the freeze cluster is like 2.5 times more efficient per point than any stun threshold

[gleaming parcel]

i just invested in some 10% of max ES as additional stun threshold jewels - are those made redundant by using a stun charm?

[manic bobcat]

Yeah of course

[arctic crag]

ok then I did comment correctly, its just very rare, theres only one cluster iirc

[gleaming parcel]

lol damn

[manic bobcat]

Stun charm makes you immune to stun

[arctic crag]

*and its probably really hard to path to that cluster for some classes

[manic bobcat]

And you only care about the first stun, because consecutive stuns have lesser likely hood

[gleaming parcel]

i am going to flip those and reinvest

[manic bobcat]

That's built into the game

And it gives like 3sec stun invuln anyways

That's plenty of time to get away and build charges back again

[gleaming parcel]

when the stun charm goes off i always get stunned once but then am able to get away or kill everyone

[manic bobcat]

Yeah, because it saved you from the critical situation.

[gleaming parcel]

yup, it's really nice

[manic bobcat]

This kind of thing is not that easy to quantify, you need to cauge how your gameplay goes and try things out. It's not obvious how much value these debuff resistances have (freeze or stun or anything)

What is easy to quantify are the numbers. And freeze "resist" is way more efficient passive-tree-point-wise

If you have/can choose between the 2

[ornate lark]

what do i do now how do i get out

[gleaming parcel]

another nice QoL thing on the icebreaker wheel is the reduced effect of chill, which makes playing on freezing ground maps less annoying

[manic bobcat]

That's true

I feel that

fuck that map mod

[gleaming parcel]

fuck that map mod

[wanton dawn]

ur stuck

[manic bobcat]

like it's not even that dangerous it's just a feel bad mod

make your players suffer kind of mod

[ornate lark]

can i get out in any way

[wanton dawn]

chat can pikachu get unstuck

i dont think so

[manic bobcat]

Wait why are you stuck?

Use your blink

[keen valve]

you're stuck. next time don't create a portal inside the boss area and go to character screen, then back in again

[ornate lark]

i dont have blink

[manic bobcat]

lol hmm

If you have minions, try respawning them somehow and that might push your character away from the stuckage

[ornate lark]

i dont have anything like that so my map is over ig

[ornate lark]

thanks will remeber that

[manic bobcat]

Care to explain this more detailed? Where does the game respawn you if you don't spawn a portal and exit the game?

[ornate lark]

probably the last portal you created or the one you came in at first

[keen valve]

in your hideout

[manic bobcat]

Ohh right, that's nice to know

Though I just blink away when I'm inside walls

If you don't have weapon set 2 used right know @ornate lark It's pretty free to use that solely for blink

[ornate lark]

i have that for power sigil

[gleaming parcel]

woah that's a great idea

[manic bobcat]

Or even if you have it used, you can still multi-purpose it for blinking. Though skill slots may be an issue

Ohh here we go again... I know all about blink swap

I use these on my ssf lightning arrow deadeye on set II

For both blink and curses

[median vector]

Would be nice if they added a "teleport to dungeon/map entrance" command to help with stuck situations, just give it a 20 second cast time so its not abused or something

[manic bobcat]

Ahh the d4 thing. I'd rather they fix these bugs. It would be pretty obscure feature to use developer time on

[gleaming parcel]

👀

[median vector]

I mean yea they definitely should fix the bugs, but i doubt its something simple and since this is EA we should have debug options until they can.

[manic bobcat]

What in the fukc is that quant

How

[gleaming parcel]

i juiced a bunch of towers

[wanton dawn]

👀

the fuck how did u got 400

[manic bobcat]

I too have towers, but they give like max 20%. How many towers you have on that map lol

[wanton dawn]

10 towers or some shit

[manic bobcat]

Ohh right, with the atlas passives that seems legit

You hit the doubled precursor tablet bonuses with that one

[wanton dawn]

ok but u have 2x mine

[dusky star]

you don't get "80% at best", you get far more with jewels - the flat you can also get a lot of other places (such as howa)

[manic bobcat]

And possibly the +25% more prefix effect

[wanton dawn]

explain urself

[manic bobcat]

I wish I got more than 80% :(. SSF jewels suck

Trial of Sekhemas is only way, but still sucks

I haven't seen +% quiver bonus in like 100 emeralds

0 times in 90 levels

[dusky star]

yeah, I'm talking about trade, heh

SSF is harsh

[arctic crag]

ah howa, true, I am just thinking of LA as "puny" in terms of quiver bonus as I am playing concoctions with widowhail.

[manic bobcat]

Most people are np, I understand

It rolls upto 15% per jewel right? And most builds have like 8-12 jewel slots

[gleaming parcel]

i don't even know lmao

[wanton dawn]

which distilss give tablets quantity chaaaat

[gleaming parcel]

i put +quant in all towers

[wanton dawn]

i forgot

[gleaming parcel]

this is a quant map

[arctic crag]

I have mostly been doing sanctum and havent gotten any good jewels I can use either. I have gotten maybe a total of 2 quiver jewels in 100 emeralds too.

[manic bobcat]

Tablet prefixes are the same with all tablets

and quant is a prefix

[wanton dawn]

400 is crazy

[manic bobcat]

He hit the double from the atlas tree for sure

[wanton dawn]

nah

no way

even with that

he had like 20 towers around that node

probably

with quantity increases

[keen valve]

20 towers 1 map

[cerulean pike]

any1 got an idea why cant i claim the 7/8 point?

[gleaming parcel]

7 towers in range

all woulda been 15+ quant

definitely 1 or 2 got doubled then

[keen valve]

the Djinn was of too low lvl

[manic bobcat]

I assume the 400% quant guy has these allocated and hit the jackpot

+quant on waystone of course

[wanton dawn]

aight my new goal now is to hit 500

[manic bobcat]

I run some calculations and 400% doesn't even seem that crazy

[subtle hamlet]

Your coin wasn't lvl 75+

[manic bobcat]

On average +quant roll (15%) you only need 9.52 towers to get 400% more quant from towers alone given by this equation: (1.0 + 0.08 * 5) * 15 * 2 * x = 400

[subtle hamlet]

Isn't that base ? That doesn't include the waystone that can get up to 600%, no

[manic bobcat]

And you need to hit the 1/5 doubling

Yeah I didn't even count waystone quant

I mean +%quant for everything given by waystone

The prefix quant

[subtle hamlet]

That's a pretty hot set up though

[manic bobcat]

Yeah, hotter than anything I have had

But I speak and theorycraft more than play so lmao

[subtle hamlet]

Most I've gotten is maybe 7 towers together

[manic bobcat]

Same

[subtle hamlet]

Oh your talking about quantity?

[manic bobcat]

While I'm on it, I'll calculate the max quant for a map

Yeah I am

[subtle hamlet]

I wish i was home. Managed to get a 167% quantity I hope I didn't use it.

I think I did on a citadel.

Fricj

Got a 20 jewel and a perfect out of that map

Then died to jamara

I hate that dudes sandstorms

[scenic torrent]

I had a 248% Quant breach and died bc there was so much shit on my screen even with a strict item filterm

[keen valve]

what? darude sandstorm?

best song ever

[wanton dawn]

i run without filter

[subtle hamlet]

Lmao , wait till you get the x10 breaches

[wanton dawn]

shit feels cash

[subtle hamlet]

Those are amazing you're in there for literally an hr

[celest maple]

anyone running a 4th asc i can join

[subtle hamlet]

I managed to fill an entire quad tab with nothing but breach rings and tablets

[vague pike]

#2┃looking-for-group

[scenic torrent]

I had done on e on my Ranger it was 150% Quant qith 10 breachs I got 2 breachstones outta that

[subtle hamlet]

They're amazing source of exalts

[celest maple]

thx mb

[subtle hamlet]

Especially when you're breach rings hit massive mana/amps/resistance

Too bad your pc hates you

[scenic torrent]

Kinda shitty tbh breaches arent super great for currency imho.

[subtle hamlet]

By the end of it

[subtle hamlet]

I was talking about the drops you get to sell

[scenic torrent]

On trade?

[subtle hamlet]

Yuh

[scenic torrent]

I dont think ive ever gotten a good drop from a breaxh tbh

[subtle hamlet]

Oh that's saddiesb

[scenic torrent]

Other than my Tri Res breach ring

[manic bobcat]

Herald of Ice freeze for 2 seconds = GG

And I have a modern GPU

[scenic torrent]

I was playing a Slideshow brother. My screen was covered with shit.

[subtle hamlet]

I only have a 3080 and my pc hates it

It hates Savanah more , breach + delirium = 5 fps

[scenic torrent]

I have terrible crafting luck. Ive wasted more currency crafting than anything. Ive gotten to a point where I dont even pick shit up. Unless its a Qauterstave or a Daulstring bowm

[subtle hamlet]

Give them to meeeee

I mean not for free

I'd arkeast trade for em

[manic bobcat]

What currency you can even waste in this game? Only divines/annuls/omens are worth anything

Exalts are made tobe spammed nonstop

[scenic torrent]

Imho Crafting is a waste of money im better off saving and just buying good gear. Thats kinda where I am atm.

[manic bobcat]

I guess chaos right

[hollow jay]

is this good?

[subtle hamlet]

I throw alchemy and regals and exalts at em and if theybalready look like crap I just scrap them right away

[hollow jay]

for my minion build

[manic bobcat]

Exalts are so common, it would be waste to not craft promising items on fly

[subtle hamlet]

Mid

[subtle hamlet]

Oh wait to use ? Its passable

I dunno how far along you are

[hollow jay]

got this atm

[scenic torrent]

I have never once slammed an item and was like holy shit I cant believe that. My Tri Res Lightning dmg% and flat lightning breaxh ring was a ground drop.

[subtle hamlet]

That one is better

[gleaming parcel]

welp no divines in the +300% quant map

395

[subtle hamlet]

The minion levels are

[subtle hamlet]

Y no rarity?

[gleaming parcel]

it had 154% rarity

and i'm running 117 on my build

[subtle hamlet]

I got a divine from a lvl one waystone yesterday no upgrades

[manic bobcat]

TBH I'm bit out-of-the loop how people tend to play in trade-leagues. Like sure, if you identify like no rares, then there isn't many opportunities to craft those with like 2 decent affixes already

[subtle hamlet]

Rng be rng

I cba to sit in trade

[manic bobcat]

Though the exalt spam get's you something decent in like 1/200 to 1/1000 cases, it's still worth because 800 to 4000 exalts are nothing compared to 200 promising bases

But IDFK, if people identify anything or are you just running for splinters and currency to sell

I fucking hate identifying bows though. It gets boring after the first 10k

[scenic torrent]

When I was on my Ranger id fill my Inventory the id it all then look at the rolls. I did this for about a week of playing 12 hours a day. I never once got an item that was semi good even when I did Id slam it and it be fucking awful. Crafting isnt fun imho im bette rod just pulling the lever on a slot machine lmao

[subtle hamlet]

I'd rather farm bosses

[manic bobcat]

Yeah I guess trade raises the standard for "something good" so ridiculously high when tens of thousands of people are power farming the endgame. Oversuply of rares

Problem is that once a rare drops, it's forever in the economy (hence the league approach)

[scenic torrent]

SSF isnt fun imo. I dont want to play by myself. 90% of the fun in this game is playing with friends.

[manic bobcat]

Nothing wrong with that opinion, definitely now

[scenic torrent]

Its just like crafting aint it

I think thats also like a generally accepted take as well

[manic bobcat]

Like I'm just too autistic to allow myself to trade. Once I do I play nothing, but wallstreet simulation on some trade site. Has happened in too many games for me...

[gleaming parcel]

u def played eve i bet

[manic bobcat]

I haven't, :D

[gleaming parcel]

lol luckily for you then

[manic bobcat]

But many games tempt to make you just flip all day and follow some fucking virtual market charts

But that's a me issue for not finding the balance between game/profit outside of game

In every game with trade, the fastest way to make money is to not play the game though

[scenic torrent]

I dont do that. I dont care enough. I just wanna have enough currency ingame to get the things I want doesn't have to be BIS just good enough for me to clear what I wanna clear.

[manic bobcat]

Right and that's fine, like I said, it's a me issue to be so binary/all or nothing between trade or gameplay

[wintry aspen]

hey, im getting oneshot from wave 14 bosses on simulcrum as spark archmage. is there a way to improve my def for that moment ?

[scenic torrent]

Just be a market mogul and make shitloads of currency.

[sly swallow]

get the attr mana morior chest

get mana soul cores

items with a lot of ES

[manic bobcat]

I would really appreciate more greater essences though

Those would make crafting jewels so much better

I have had 0 greater essences in 90 levels

And 0 lesser chaos essences too

[scenic torrent]

Real. All my greater essences which is all of 2 of em. Where from the campaign.

[river violet]

When you're in an expedition, the icon in the Lower right will show you what effects you have selected from remnants

[grizzled grotto]

what's this?

[subtle hamlet]

A rock

A really big rock

[grizzled grotto]

if it's just a rock then why does it have a map icon?

[subtle hamlet]

That probably opens into a room you can go in for excavated chests

Random thrash mobs will be in there

Lookin like skeletons

[tropic quarry]

You know, have seen exactly what they're talking about.

Didn't even notice if there was a rock there before I popped it though 🤔

[subtle hamlet]

A pebble

[subtle hamlet]

No skull on map. Gg go next

[grizzled grotto]

this is probly gonna hurt me more than it's worth

[tropic quarry]

That's what had me wondering. Figured I would have noticed on the beach lol

[subtle hamlet]

[subtle hamlet]

I mean I wouldn't go out of your way to get them ,but they're ok to open

Markers/remnants are better

[hearty harbor]

any guide/recommendation for optimal ssf atlas tree?

[tropic quarry]

If you're talking about the cave (assuming it is that), I wouldn't worry.

Was pretty tame in there lol

[subtle hamlet]

^^^

Just random amounts of chests inside

And mobs

(They do get the modifiers)

1-4

[slender jay]

Guys help me understand precursor and towers please!!! I put a tablet in and it was a 5 tablet but it said this tablet can only work on 4 nodes in range, I assumed there is a limit to how much a node holds and i miscalculated BUT then it did 4 and left some completely empty!

[subtle hamlet]

Oh it definitely did 5, the 5th one might be in fog

Or that

[slender jay]

oh it was a boss tablet, that will be why then

[tropic quarry]

Probably a boss tablet, some maps just can't have bosses @slender jay

Wrong @ lol

[slender jay]

fuck, id have planned differently, ty tho

[subtle hamlet]

I mean its not like its wasted

[tropic quarry]

Glad to hear they have a warning for it, at least.

[subtle hamlet]

You still got your bosses

[hexed mango]

Hey, how does one price check a stellar amulet? I read that some people will list a bunch of valuable items cheap, to try to get suckers like me to list it cheap. I almost fell for it until I noticed a ton were listed by the same person

[subtle hamlet]

Also 5 nide bosses

[slender jay]

i know but im going for t18 setting up for irradiated/corrupted for my atlas points, id have used something else in that tower

[subtle hamlet]

[tropic quarry]

Turn on live search, let it run for a bit.

[hexed mango]

Great thanks. Should I just orb of chance it?

[tropic quarry]

Price fixers usually won't spend a lot of time posting at cheap prices, they will usually just let it sit at the top of search results.

[subtle hamlet]

T18S ?

what

[tropic quarry]

Community term for corrupted+irradiated T16

[subtle hamlet]

Its just corupted/irradiated/ boss nodes ,ye ?

[slender jay]

everything else was clear, the nodes left were irradiated and mostly corrupted so they would proc, i'm working on my bossing atlas, it was strategic

[subtle hamlet]

Oh

I see

[sly swallow]

yeah you have to just know it. if you get too many messages, change the price. start with a higher price then lower it. rn I would start with 150ex

[grizzled grotto]

check what half a divine is, list it for that. if you get spammed, raise the price and try again.

[sly swallow]

you can't just find the price on the website

[subtle hamlet]

I think I have like 5/6 set up rn

Cba

[hexed mango]

I listed it for 3EX and got about 1000 messages so I panic logged out lol

[slender jay]

i was set up and had the position sdo it could only get my irradiated ones for the boss, then this happened, oh well

[grizzled grotto]

yea don't do that lol

[tropic quarry]

Yeah, start in triple digits at a minimum lol

[hexed mango]

Should I just orb of chance it? I’m at the point where upgrades cost multiple div minimum

[grizzled grotto]

last one I sold was 110, they are probly worth alot more now

[grizzled grotto]

no, sell it

[tropic quarry]

Haven't sold one in a minute, hearing pretty regular around the point of 120-130 nowadays.

[subtle hamlet]

Do you need some tablets?

[grizzled grotto]

there is a reason astramentis is about 200 div, and it's not just because it's a good amulet. it is incredibly rare.

people have chanced entire tabs of stellars and gotten 2 yix out of it with 0 astramentis.

[hexed mango]

Damn

Alright, I’ll just sell it. Appreciate the advice

[tropic quarry]

Have to ask just to get a sense of rarity: Regular or quad?

[sly swallow]

chance stellar amulets once you have a few hundred divines

[subtle hamlet]

I got a 30% ventors from alva a few days ago. Where all the stallars at

[sly swallow]

if you want.

[subtle hamlet]

[grizzled grotto]

regular. haven't seen quad yet.

[tropic quarry]

Regular I think I still have a chance. If it was a quad, I'm just not gonna bother lol

[subtle hamlet]

Too rich for my blood

[hexed mango]

I don’t think I’ll hit that point. I started playing only a week ago and inflation is brutal. I’ve only found 2 DIV on my own

[tropic quarry]

Honestly, in league I might feel different.
EA? Economy reset incoming? I'll roll those dice.

[grizzled grotto]

just thinking back to chancing entire quad tabs of leather belts in poe1, even doing whatever community hooey that was supposed to allow them to be chanced (like only chancing them in nemesis maps), and not getting headhunter til a random drop in settlers. and I've played all but 2 leagues since 3.0 harbinger. that's how rare T0s can be, and astramentis is way up there.

but I still felt like I had a chance with those 6 heavy belts here in poe2 a few days ago

[tropic quarry]

Honestly though. I'm still over here chancing belts in poe2.
I don't even think I need a headhunter. I already have a unique in the belt slot.

I've just been trained at this point

[hexed mango]

I spend most of my gold gambling on amulets lol

[scenic torrent]

real like what else am I gonnaa use em on

[grizzled grotto]

I don't care if HH isn't as valuable cause there are better ones, I'm still gonna chase it cause it's cool

[tropic quarry]

Honestly? Sapphire rings are probably gonna be the next best bet if you're trying to actually get something valuable.

People like dream.

[grizzled grotto]

I've chanced 3 polcirkelns and a whisper of the brotherhood

[keen valve]

anyone want 10 unidentified jewels for free? preferably someone who isn't rich 😄

[slender jay]

nah its ok but ty!

[daring geyser]

do delirious maps not have mirror?

[tropic quarry]

If you instill a map, then use it on a map with delirium, then yeah. Mirror is gone.

You're already in, no mirror needed

[daring geyser]

but delirious maps dont drop ire right

or do they

[tropic quarry]

Correct. No emotion drops.

[daring geyser]

ok thanks

[merry plume]

where do i get t2 waystones? i running t1 cant find any

[keen valve]

can buy them from Doryani

[lethal summit]

why do people buy white t15 maps?

[daring geyser]

doryani sells upto t5

[daring geyser]

cheaper

[merry plume]

mine only has t1

[lethal summit]

1 ex?

[daring geyser]

run 1 more

[merry plume]

ok

[young hazel]

how do i activate archmage

my dps goes up 10k with it on

i have the "aura" on but like how do i activate it

[keen valve]

right clicking is activating

if it's like this, it's activated

[young hazel]

im on colse

console*

i dont see that symbol

tho

[keen valve]

what do you mean? You wrote that you got 10k dps from it

[young hazel]

Like when it was on

But then it turns off

[keen valve]

once it's turned on it doesn't turn off unless you unequip an item or unallocate something that gives you spirit

[young hazel]

hmm

well u see the screenshot

i dont see why its not popping up

wait

nvm

something is going on

Went to my guild hideout (instead of refugee spot) and this popped up and gave me my 10k dps

That might not be archmage

Whatever that is

[subtle hamlet]

easier to juice em with alchemy than more exalts

you save like one exalt lol

[keen valve]

no idea tbh

[lethal summit]

makes sense

[subtle hamlet]

@scenic torrent orange

[scenic torrent]

Gimme gimme

[subtle hamlet]

bro

do u not see how in the middle of nowhere they are?

lol

[wanton dawn]

1ex is 4 alchemy