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vast prism
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shall i run it until it eventually is over? or what

thin crane
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for the sanctum trials to get your 5th/6th points you need to do 3 boss fights basically. for ultimatum i think its 7 rooms

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lemme check my toon real quick and i can tell you for sure

vast prism
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i sure hate this stuff, really do

cerulean pike
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trials are a pain

vast prism
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game is so great but this stuff, man

thin crane
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nvm, for the ultimatum one it has to be 10

undone kettle
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I don't understand it either

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I ran like 5 baryas that all said I'd get points and I didn't get them

vast prism
cerulean pike
candid junco
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Hi, would there be someone who could help me with the temple of chaos first level 36?

shy stirrup
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I think there's a node in the 'main tree' that grants you +20% waystone drops

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highly recommend getting it

thin crane
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sanctum is the honour trial. you have to go through 3 trials in one run. basically fight 3 bosses.

shy stirrup
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so you don't run out of high tier maps to run

undone kettle
vast prism
thin crane
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ultimatum is the other trial. for that one you have to do 10 rooms in one run without dying.

cerulean pike
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after the first trial, there is the 2nd set of doors behind the chests

vast prism
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oh boy ... ohhhhh boy ...

cerulean pike
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yea and they get harder

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like a lot

shy stirrup
vast prism
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nah that's not it, i'm just super frustrated that i now have to do itagain

thin crane
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see how it says 3 trials

cerulean pike
indigo yarrow
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is Poison scale off Critical hit ?

undone kettle
vast prism
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i have this

shy stirrup
thin crane
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that one will give you your 7th and 8th points

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i wouldnt use it until youve gotten your 5th and 6th points

indigo yarrow
vast prism
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i'm so confused 😂

fleet vessel
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too much juice i think

undone kettle
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so to simplify: one that says 3 trials should be for 5th/6th points, and one that says 4 trials should be for the 7th and 8th points, right?

jade dirge
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i want to enter my map that i used but it keeps logging me out, any advice please?

thin crane
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@undone kettle yes

undone kettle
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does that mean you can choose to get your 3rd through your 8th points from only doing sekhema or only doing the other one, but you don't have to do both?

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gotcha, ok

thin crane
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you can choose which trial to do

undone kettle
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I had some glitches too so it threw me off when I was trying to understand how it worked

thin crane
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i did all of mine in sekhemas bc i think its actually pretty easy

candid junco
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Someone could help me with 2 ex ?

vast prism
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okay, so what do i do with this one, throw it away? delete it?

thin crane
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but ive also done 3 10 run chaos trials

marble fjord
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Any advice on turning gold into currency?

vast prism
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because there is no number of trials, i suppose it will not work, will it?

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it has the right level (60+) but it has no number of trials so it'll do nothing (?)

worn seal
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so i'm trying to do asc 3 and my game is crashing on the floor 2 boss, is this bugged or something? i tried 3 times already and all of them end up in a crash while the boss was doing a certain attack

young mesa
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can someone help me get beat the viper lady in act 3 cruel mode

vast prism
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plus it's already "tainted" with afflictions that i do not want to have

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like, i'd rather start out fresh and not have them, right

undone kettle
tranquil oracle
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does increased freeze threshold jewels make things easier or harder to be frozen?

trim willow
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how am i supposed to go there?

plain raven
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How do you filter these in trade? I want to search for higher tier mods

young mesa
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ign @thin crane

shy stirrup
thin crane
proper otter
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Its so annoying you cant buy sekhema trials on the site

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I need a low lvl 3 trials

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but im too high lvl for it to drop in my maps

tulip ruin
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anyone found a spell leech source that is not body armour or ascendency? im specifically searching for fire damage leeched as life or spell damage leeched as life

sacred haven
frail bloom
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i dont think this is an intended mechanic

errant nymph
frail bloom
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skip to like 45 sec in for funny

native escarp
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I cleared a map that was a hideout, but how do I claim my hideout?

errant nymph
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talk to alva

thin crane
fallen creek
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how am i supposed to kill this omg

young mesa
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just beat it but if you wanna clear some mobs you can join still

errant nymph
lime cargo
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Anything missing, guys?

errant nymph
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more life / es \o/

fallen creek
lime cargo
errant nymph
fallen creek
dry lark
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im trying to complete tier 1 map i searched everything and killed everything. I didnt get notification that i completed this map. am i missing something ?

errant nymph
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That a tier 1 waystone?

dry lark
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ya

errant nymph
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Joe I mean

distant falcon
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anyone got a lot of t14+ waystones to sell?

sacred haven
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I have noticed that when a waystone has increased number of rare monster %, only 1 or 2 spawns. while on average without the buff 3/4 spawns...is it just me or is this a known byg?

fallen creek
errant nymph
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you are not missing anything, you completed the map, sukxura

fallen creek
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i completed one of the nodes on map, gone to the next and now in this one

errant nymph
dry lark
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i thought it should have massive sign map completed or smthing like one before and it didnt progress in my mission

trim willow
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wtf I've literally already turned a thousand times and I don't see a way to go

cerulean pike
errant nymph
dry lark
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whats dorment mob ;d

errant nymph
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Sleeping mob, the ones that activate when you get near

dry lark
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oki ty

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😭 time to run around

errant nymph
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If you can't find them don't sweat it, you can buy tier 1 waystones for 5k gold

cerulean pike
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thats rough

fleet vessel
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How do I outplay this?
Is it just because of elemental weakness?

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Or is it stun threshold or something

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this is with -11% enfeeble too

drifting glacier
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you have to kill them

dry lark
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yea ill asume it buged out

drifting glacier
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@fleet vessel i answered his question why the dislike

bitter vine
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honestly is a genuine answer

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if you're not killing the lightning mirage mob quick enough to stop the lightning mirages spamming you

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and that puts you in a position to get swarmed by white mobs

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then your damage is an issue

cerulean pike
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hows the rune that give chaos res called?

drifting glacier
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yes taht is what i meant

bitter vine
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its a soul core not a rune

drifting glacier
bitter vine
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why cant u dm me

drifting glacier
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idk messgae n ot delivered

bitter vine
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dunno guess discord hates u

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oh it gave me the same

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lol

thin crane
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it hates you both

drifting glacier
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yes

topaz grotto
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what is the orange gem that I see streamers insert into their gear called that gives 14% chaos resist?

bitter vine
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soul core of tacati

thin crane
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its a soul core you can get from doing the ultimatum trial

upper thistle
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Any minion builds that use CI?

austere sandal
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Im looking for an upgrade to +4 levels , how relevant is the elemental damge with attacks? like does +1 more lvl outweight not having the elemental damgae bonus?

frail bloom
dusty lava
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??????????????????
So there no way to "complete" the map righ?

vale ore
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Can anyone help with Trials for first ascend?

thin crane
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why are you asking in the after acts help channel tho

fleet vessel
thin crane
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lol

haughty moat
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When I defer an item in a ritual, is this item eternaly defered ? Can I "lose" it ?

vale ore
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Oh sorry wrong channel then haha

thin crane
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i can help though.

bitter vine
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90% of questions in here arent even after acts anyway

bitter vine
vale ore
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Oh ty can I add you to party? I’m igregga

thin crane
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im PutangInaMo

gusty monolith
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Is it just me or is breach 100 times harder than anything else? I cruise through everything else I've tried but don't have a snowball's chance in hell in those, always surrounded, stuck and dead.

thin crane
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i actually cruise through the breach mirrors. what gets spicy for me is the rituals bc you have to stay so close to everything

naive scaffold
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how to unlock this hmMm on my first map

south pilot
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I just swapped to a spark based lightning build. But whenever I try to attack&move after standing still, I just rubberband to the same position. Anyone else had this issue?

gusty fable
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yo so like i loaded into the game my my character was fully naked, any way to keep it like that or just bugged

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this is a question that my life depends on

south pilot
naive scaffold
drifting glacier
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get a key

gusty fable
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that

thin crane
naive scaffold
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can you 100% find the key on that map

little goblet
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Can Exposure applied to a monster make their resitances go into the negatives?

naive scaffold
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or rng

frail bloom
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exposure can

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penetration cannot

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so you use penetration to go to 0 then curse or exposure to go below 0

gusty fable
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now answer my question up

drifting glacier
gusty fable
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go up

frail bloom
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......

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it was bugged

drifting glacier
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yo you weird

frail bloom
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this is not bg3 lmao

gusty fable
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how

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why

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noo

drifting glacier
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youre not cool buddy

slate horizon
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How do i make unleashed spell gem happen more consistently?

little goblet
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Is this applied after all the #% Increased Mana Regeneration Rate have been multipled?

tranquil oracle
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How do you unlock more relic slots? What are these test of time, test of will, and test of cunning?

little goblet
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Or is it simply a slightly better version or #% Increased Mana Regeneration Rate that also applies to flasks?

naive scaffold
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explored entire map

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no key

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😦

abstract lake
frail bloom
zealous yarrow
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#can you remove an annoint or roll over it?

frail bloom
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you click on it and it spawns mobs

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kill the mobs

naive scaffold
frail bloom
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because you havent killed the mobs

naive scaffold
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there is no mobs tho i cleaned the entire map

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it just foggs up the area

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thats it

frail bloom
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either its bugged or there is an enemy hidden in the fog bugged out or something

naive scaffold
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unluckers

frail bloom
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because strongboxes open, spawn the monsters

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and then once their dead it opens

naive scaffold
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whatever ig

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thanks though

normal osprey
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wtf is this shit wasting my time?? no elite icons ever spawned on this map and i cant find the last 9 monsters and the map wont complete lowkey this pissed me tf off

patent lagoon
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Fubgun seems to value dualstring over about 70 dps on a bow, but thats not including the +projectile skills I dont have

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Not sure what +3 is worth in terms of dps

fallen creek
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how do i get back to the place where the other players are in the map room

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its putting me in my own personal hideout that i got for buying 100 dollar pack, and i have no other hideout to swap to

novel condor
bitter vine
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you sure there arent rares somewhere uve not seen?

plain raven
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bruh if I fail this i am a major dumbo

frail bloom
slate horizon
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Is there a way to scale wild shards

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It would be nice to have 8 projectiles all the time

tepid bronze
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Anyone know where I can find Doryani?

floral pendant
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is there a waystone stash tab?

frail bloom
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not yet

zealous yarrow
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or end game city

tepid bronze
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am I just blind?

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C_C

zealous yarrow
tepid bronze
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oh, how?

zealous yarrow
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decorations

tepid bronze
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ty

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well I speak with him and nothing happens

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I guess just bugged

proven cradle
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Failed second ascendancy. Boss had 5% hp. How do I try again

tepid bronze
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just restart

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close the door and open again with the token, it remains in the statue

grand sun
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my first run was a titan obe and now im on inferno witch and this is SO much easier

onyx raptor
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Im having issues with explosive shot as a mercenary. I can reload the skill, but it is not allowing me to fire it. Ive tried it on every keybind. All other skills work

proven cradle
clever mulch
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is there a way to check if im missing some buffs / permanent stats?

i feel like im missing some stuff and i kinda feel like that the icons that would show me it are missing from the map xd

proven cradle
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@tepid bronze?

onyx raptor
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Why can I not shoot non-grenade skills on mercenary? Is this a bug?

frail bloom
onyx raptor
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grenades work, galvanic/explosive shot

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all dont work

frail bloom
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yeah

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because those are skills

tepid bronze
frail bloom
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you dont have the action "shoot"

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your just loading the ammo

onyx raptor
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ahh im braindead

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ty

frail bloom
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xddd

proven cradle
frail bloom
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good little giggle

lyric agate
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Are the citadels random or something? I can’t seem to find any of the 3 I need for early map quests

zealous willow
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do i need to do another breach to trade w gwennen?

livid parrot
wraith bolt
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Bro ok the Hyiene Boss fight on hardcore is realy worth its name. We did so many tries and could not kill him. Its near to impossible

zealous willow
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do i need to go to a hideout node on the map to get one?

karmic sparrow
waxen dome
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what type of damage does the third floor sekhema boss do ?

frigid lantern
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is EU server also lagging for you guys?

forest saddle
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Is there a way to refund points instead of gold? or is the best way gold?

frail bloom
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only way gold

livid parrot
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Anyone know what ilvl weapons default attacks get their 6th link? Tried searching but can't find any info on it

loud cedar
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where do I type /passives nothing happen if I type it in normal chat

bitter vine
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you don't

livid parrot
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Just make sure you have 24 weapon passive points, 100 spirit and 20 to all resistances and you have everything

polar jay
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how to get rid of this after finishing campaign on a second character? talked to doriyani everywhere

polar jay
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is it a bug or am I doing smth wrong?

frail bloom
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where do you get the 20 lighning

livid parrot
night river
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So do guild stash tabs cost the same in ssf

frail bloom
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nah dude wtf

lunar ivy
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how do you get past the levers in 4 trial sekhemas

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its just a maze of levers

frail bloom
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i cant beleive i missed 20 lightning

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im in t15s

livid parrot
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You're not the only one mate 😄

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Tons of people have said the same thing

vale osprey
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Are breaches needed?

rapid bramble
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Hi guys, I've finished act 3 cruel and after that talked with Doryani, still quest is active and I can't go to endgame. Do you have any idea how to solve that?

vale osprey
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Like am I missing anything by not doing these

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I’m up to tier 13’s and still haven’t done any breaches

livid parrot
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You're missing out ona bunch of loot pretty much

vale osprey
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Anytime I try one I instantly die

cursive parrot
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There is a boss icon with a star thing that I cant seem to find the zone its in, its just below Freythorn in ACT 1. I cleared Freythorn but its still there, where is that boss ? I cant over hover it since im on console

frail bloom
silent eagle
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anyone had the bug where you get kicked out to character select when you try entering a map?

vale osprey
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Good to hear

torn jungle
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i know penetration doesnt make res go negative, but does exposure do it?

polar jay
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can the atlas map reset? I went about 3-4 screens east, then wanted to go a bit north from spawn but when I logged in I lost a ton of progress east-wards of the map

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did I make a mistake or?

lunar kraken
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Had a similar thing happen to me too

polar jay
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ah ye I switched chars to my old main and it did go back to normal 🙂

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Can't believe I didn't try that before asking duh

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turning it off and on again = best solution as per usual

lunar kraken
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It's ok we all get 1

tropic ember
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anyone know if recoup counts as regeneration towards zealot's oath?

zinc lily
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if youre running mind over matter does demon form hit your mana pool first or is it directly hitting hps till?

jolly pilot
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hey, I got that "endgame" act in world but I cannot activate any map location nor return to that endgame location with map device
is there a way to fix this?

frail bloom
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can you not tp here?

jolly pilot
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I'm there now

frail bloom
arctic stone
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how do i reset the atlas?

frail bloom
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wdym

flint cobalt
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Moment of Zen, do map tier matter?

jolly pilot
# frail bloom walk down the stairs

now it's working thank you so much!
first time when I clicked on map device it just opened atlas but didn't let me click any location untill now

frail bloom
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np it is a bit goofy

cobalt elbow
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roughly what level did you guys clear hard mode trials for points 5-8 for ascendency?

jolly pilot
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yeah, maybe logoff fixed it but at that time I didn't know how to come back to Refuge camp

red oak
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How much do you guys spend on fresh endgame gear to cap off resistances in the like?

final stream
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"Maps no longer have additional elemental resistance penalties inherently applied at Tier 6 and Tier 11 or higher Maps. It is now consistent across all of the Endgame."

What does this mean?? So there's no need to overcapp resistance to 75+ ?

red oak
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Torn between crafting my own upgrades or saving exalts just to buy good starter gear

balmy topaz
silver solar
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Is the new patch live?

flint cobalt
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Anyone know if map tier matters with Moment of Zen unique merchant?

frail bloom
cobalt elbow
# frail bloom 6-8? did mine at 84

I mean not to be annoying but you get 2 points per trial, so it should be 5-8 (the last 4), yeah?

but thank you for answering my question

pseudo lily
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when i try to enter a portal in endgame i just immediately discconnect ....

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on maps

plain crypt
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When do Greater jewellers orb start dropping for 4 skill links?

balmy topaz
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end of campaign/start of maps

plain crypt
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mhm. guess i have just been unlucky then, thanks

balmy topaz
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They're very rare still

broken charm
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what charm gives cold resist?

outer flame
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On Act 3 Cruel I killed Mighty Silverfist and he dropped his +2 passive skills items but I died before I could pick it up. The item disappeared and it doesnt matter if I try to relog or kill him again, I am not getting the points back. I have opened a couple of Forum posts but no answer... Are my 2 points gone forever?

balmy topaz
true vigil
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anyone running maps tier 5+ or 10+

chrome pollen
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hello guys quick question, is it possible for me to get ultimatum or the other thing to do the trial when im doing endgame maps?

plain raven
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damn fubgun build dodging the nerfs wtf

balmy topaz
chrome pollen
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really so far ive done 10 maps at t1 and gotten none

floral rock
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yo heyo whatsup guys help me pls

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anyone maybe knows

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how can fix fps drop , when on the waystone rare mob dying with spalsh with wormed , my 100+ fps dropped to 60 and be unstable

frail bloom
wraith surge
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Do now lowest resist after New update gonna be -40%?

frail bloom
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it just means the -20 happens the second you reach maps

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not once you complete certain maps

wraith surge
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So after cruel act 3 it is gonna be -60%?

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I didn't even know it goes that low...
Thought it is -50%

frail bloom
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its -40 post campaign yellow maps is -10 and red maps another -10

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but not it will just be post campaign -60

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this is to stop the confusion of oh where has my res gon

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or making a build and buying gear just to be 10 res short on everything

cobalt elbow
wraith surge
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Even more insta kills through elemental dmg...

grim pecan
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Is there a way to search for the shrine hideout? Or just explore and its random?

frail bloom
frail bloom
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not like they changed anything

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just moved it

wraith surge
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Oh thanks...
I have like 10-20% right now at lvl 70

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It means I will be at -10%-0%

frail bloom
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once you get to those maps yeah

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but 1 ex in each gear slot should cap you at 75

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just go on trade

wraith surge
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My build requires uniques...
I already got them all but one

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I have only my weapons, boots, rings and gloves open for changes

crude rampart
frail bloom
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better buy some 50 ex all res rings then

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2 of these should do

wraith surge
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Already using rings like +30% light resist and +25% light resist

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I have only 15 exalts

crude rampart
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gonna tell you again before i log in to play you have a bad build on that srmor but best of luck to you imma go back to my t11's on my blood witch

ember wraith
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are there any trusted 3pd applications that can instant price check items from your stash?

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feel like I remember something like that from POE but dont know if this game has a version yet

frail bloom
blissful garnet
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Does sorcers elementsl storm proc rising tempest if its the same element?

if i am casting spark which triggers elemental storm which does lightning damage, will it trigger rising tempest seeing as elemental storm has all element tags?

marsh epoch
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Is the new resistance penalty in maps just the full penalty from 11+ now applied the whole time? Or is there less of a penalty at +11?

frail bloom
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its just the penalty from 11s applied instantly

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to stop confusion

marsh epoch
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Gotcha

meager sundial
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is it currently possible to rechoose the venom draught

pseudo basalt
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can Corrupted Blood from corrupting cry be scaled with "increased physical damage"?

rich crow
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Hello, does anyone know how attack speed works with skill usage? i am duel welding as a warrior and attack speed of course increases the use speed of my abilities. Does it average the attack speed of both my weapons as the baseline? or does it just take my fastest weapon?

arctic stone
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What greater ess would you guys put on this

dense epoch
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does this boom makes you lose honor?

zealous yarrow
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this seems... not intuitive

plain raven
dry ruin
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what the hell is this how many more maps do i have to do to get to a hideout jesus

bright shuttle
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can anyone hop on a call with me (MUTED) for like 2 mins rq to show tell me if my build is good or not (gem wise)

dense epoch
zealous yarrow
plain raven
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anyone elses quest log bugged? Mine just says talk to doryani, dudes been id-ing everything for 50 maps

young notch
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Whats a good level to attempt the third ascendancy trial?

plain raven
balmy topaz
young notch
plain raven
bright shuttle
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dog has wild fire and fire exposure
flammability has spell cascade, decaying hex and burning inscription and my arsonsits have fire infusion, martial tempo and scattershot on then. is that good? like does fire exposure stack with flammability or is it bad to use them together, and question when is it good to use ignition and the support gems that mention ignition (ive been told that its bad on arsonists)

young notch
plain raven
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I didnt even realize there are objectives on the map, I thought its just maps

balmy topaz
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yes

plain raven
vague kraken
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How much evasion is workable for t15 maps? Was hoping to get a ballpark for what gear I should trade for.

balmy topaz
clear cairn
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Can anyone link me to the latest loot filter out?

amber helm
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thats for skills that hit at the same time with both at least

arctic stone
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Does quality increase the chance of something having higher tiers of mods?

balmy topaz
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No

vague kraken
distant falcon
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what is the maximum honour res? also 75?

arctic stone
balmy topaz
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increase their base stats

arctic stone
arctic stone
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Magic weapons dont have base stats

amber helm
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...

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"base stats" doesnt mean modifier

wary wraith
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how do i get back to oswald to drop my idols after campaign? 😄 like the present ziggurat?

pallid glade
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Is there a link for the loot filter that matthestic recently posted?

rapid abyss
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if I go into a map, can I make a portal to town to clear my inventory and go back in?

arctic stone
amber helm
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the volatile dead skill

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and that's a caster weapon which is weird

arctic stone
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Right so like

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how does it increase volatile dead?

shrewd crane
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how do you fight olroth the expedition boss?

amber helm
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i think it gives quality to that skill

arctic stone
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It doesnt

amber helm
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but im not sure because i havent played caster

balmy topaz
rapid abyss
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ok cool

amber helm
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but everything you said above is still completely incorrect.

arctic stone
amber helm
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idk what it does bro i havent played caster

daring crest
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explain towers and tablets. I still need to put a waystone in a tower to put a tablet into it? Do I put a trash waystone or there's still mobs inside?

amber helm
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doesnt change what quality does, which is modify base stats

bitter vine
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i personally just buy a t1 waystone from doryani for 5k for every tower

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to clear it as fast as possible because id rather spend the time in the juiced maps

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than in the tower

daring crest
#

ok tnx. Just confirming if i can put trash waystone into it

bitter vine
#

ya

amber helm
daring crest
#

same with hideout right? very little mobs so trash waystone?

bitter vine
#

hideouts have all the rare mobs still in a dense area but yeah trash waystone is fine

arctic stone
arctic stone
# amber helm ???

shockburst rounds quality also isnt working at all, so maybe quality is having some bugs all around?

dull plank
# arctic stone It doesnt

Not that I don’t believe you but have you checked. I noticed a lot of gem quality is really minute until 20+

bitter vine
#

yea some skills quality is not working

arctic stone
#

So there's no telling which are working and which arent

#

How was my RNG?

steel prairie
#

were i can see my total movenent speed?

spice crescent
#

is price checking here allowed?

wispy moss
shrewd crane
#

does ritual bug out rares in maps? i cleared a t15 map but didnt get the completation reward for the quests. is it because the rare got somehow bugged by ritual spawn?

velvet ruin
#

exploding affects after death are such a stupid mechanic in this game, especially on a boss

shrewd crane
velvet ruin
velvet ruin
#

1 of them could be the boss?

shrewd crane
spice crescent
shrewd crane
velvet ruin
velvet ruin
velvet ruin
#

i wrote g16 cause i want to be on an airplane

#

flying away from this shitty boss

unkempt bear
#

Someone know at which map tier lvl15 gems start to drop?

shell hill
#

hi guys do i need to be in cruel act 2 for my 3rd ascendency or can i just go back to normal act 2 and put in a barya from cruel act 2?

wispy moss
#

you can go to normal

rich crow
vestal turret
#

does anybody know do i pen res or exposure it first? when i have both

safe flame
#

HOW do i get back to the ziggurat encampment in act 6 (cruel)...i need to get back in the drowned city for the molten vault quest, but i can not get there cuz i can not figure how to get back to the encampment???

#

(i completed campaign)

prime edge
#

No Rare Icons on the minimap, yet i still cant place a map on adjacent tiles to the yellow one thats currently in progress (this map below with 0 monsters remaining) whats wrong here

#

"Map Completed" text isnt present either

#

the map is Oasis

sinful falcon
#

Love losing all my waystones when it logs me out as I'm travelling

outer slate
#

do i need to farm inscirbed utimatium to do chaos challenge again? i only dropped 2 and failed

scenic agate
#

ok, so I'm in maps and this has started to happen.... archer type mob corpses showing this ghost quiver on their backs

#

and when they're there, the whole screen glitches like crazy

#

this type of bollocks

#

this a common thing? only happened since started maps

fresh vault
#

what does this do?

lime cargo
balmy topaz
lime cargo
balmy topaz
prime edge
fresh vault
#

oh so +2 in crual

scenic agate
#

Its literally never happened while playing... its only started on maps, so abit strange

fresh vault
#

do i get infinite tries?

safe flame
#

HOW do i get back to the ziggurat encampment in act 6 (cruel)...i need to get back in the drowned city for the molten vault quest, but i can not get there cuz i can not figure how to get back to the encampment???

#

the portal is gone??? how do i get there?

shrewd crane
scenic agate
#

Go through the portal, you'll get kicked to riverbank, then portal home, should put you back to present act 3 camp

safe flame
#

no im done with act 6

#

not act 3

scenic agate
#

I mean, its act 3 cruel

safe flame
#

i need to get back to act 6 ziggurat encampment

scenic agate
#

yes, do what I said

prime edge
safe flame
#

i do...but how stupid is that

scenic agate
#

yes, its stupid

safe flame
#

i dont have the waypoint in drowned

#

i zoomed

fresh vault
#

do i get infinite tries on the cruel versions of chaos trials and trials in act 2?

scenic agate
#

no

#

cruel versions you have to farm keys

fresh vault
#

so i only have one try to get my ascendancy points and if i lose im bricked?

scenic agate
#

I mean, for that key yes

fresh vault
#

like my char can never get those ascendancy points?

scenic agate
#

the first are free

prime edge
#

has the 'Oasis' map bugged for anyone else?

scenic agate
#

so the first Djinn Bajra thingy you get and the First Ultimatum trial keys... those you can jsut keep redoing

#

it lets you open and close as you want till you win

#

For points 5/6 7/8... you have to farm more keys for each attempt

gentle leaf
#

How do i unlock the hideout? there is no connection to the node

fresh vault
#

so is the tooltip wrong then?

scenic agate
#

probably

fresh vault
#

no like

#

it says it only does 2 levels

scenic agate
#

levels are floors essentially is what it means

fresh vault
#

"Number of trials"

#

what does that mean

prime edge
#

its bugged

#

the text is bugged

fresh vault
prime edge
#

for the low lvl ones

scenic agate
#

Trials means you go from the last to the right.... kill Rattlebox whatever he is.... then you start again on the left

prime edge
#

i have 6 ascendancy points yet i got an area level ~50 djinn barya that told me the same thing

fresh vault
#

the reason im confused

#

is

#

it says i need 3 floors

#

to get 5/6asc point

prime edge
#

the text is bugged

scenic agate
#

I mean, from what I've seen you need I think a lvl 70 Ultimatum or a 3 trial run Djinn to get points 5/6

#

or am I wrong?

fresh vault
#

whats bugged about it

wispy moss
#

for 5/6 you need ultimatum with 70+ level above and 10 floors

balmy topaz
fresh vault
#

so the text is not bugged

#

and this is just a useless drop?

prime edge
#

hover over this text on the top right, it tells u

fresh vault
#

the one from the campaign in useless then?

prime edge
#

the one from the campaign is the green one that has infinite tries

fresh vault
#

well no i got a grey one

#

from campaign

#

on cruel

prime edge
#

it drops in the campaign, but its not 'from the campaign'

fresh vault
#

its from kiling the

#

specefic boss

scenic agate
#

is what maxrolls says

fresh vault
#

that also dropped the quest item

prime edge
#

how many ascedancy points have u specced in

#

at the moment

scenic agate
#

I'm gonna try a 7 trial Ultimatum for science

fresh vault
#

4*

wispy moss
scenic agate
#

cause I'm seeing mixed requirements for points 5/6

wispy moss
#

7 is for 3/4 points

#

well I can tell you wil not get that from 7

scenic agate
#

pretty sure I got points 3/4 from a ultimatum with 4

prime edge
# fresh vault 4*

then you need one with 3 floors, the 2 floor one's text is obviously bugged because why would it say 'allow you to choose your ascendancy class' when you've already chosen and spent 4 points total?

fresh vault
#

right so that one is meant to drop one with 3 floor i assume?

#

or not drop one at all?

wispy moss
prime edge
#

you said the 2 floor one was from a specific boss?

fresh vault
#

7 is for 1/2 XD

prime edge
#

was it a random drop or a guaranteed drop

fresh vault
#

from the djin

#

that also dropped in the green version

#

the poison pit djin person

prime edge
#

ok, so i guess its a guaranteed drop, then yea it is from the campaign, my bad

#

its if people lose their first one

#

thats why its a guaranteed drop

fresh vault
#

why is it not green XD

dry ruin
#

is ritual bugged or have i just not killed all of the enemies? ive completed the map and there are 12 monsters remaining and i seriously cant be bothered running around the entire map until i find them holy shit

prime edge
#

u can still lose the green one

#

like if u drop it naturally then close the instance

#

so i guess subsequent drops from the djinn are just grey

fresh vault
#

i see

prime edge
#

instead of having multiple greens in existence per account

#

would be my guess

thorny dew
#

how much spirit should i have at the end of acts?

fresh vault
#

so my drop is useles right

#

since it only goes to floor 2?

#

and i already have 1-4asc p

#

they shouldnt have put those in they are very confusing

thin crane
#

yeah its useless

#

unless you wanna try to farm it for gear

#

but you have to have up to floor 3, and then for the next 2 points 4 floors

fresh vault
#

they should remove those ones with the bugged text

#

they can only confuse and scam people

thin crane
#

i fell for it the first time

grand sun
#

curious that they are nerfing arsonists while not touching stormweavers stuff at all

thin crane
#

picked one up that said it would give me ascendancy, but turns out... nope. it was 2 floor, not 3.

fresh vault
#

wel no my friend bought one that had the text beecause he thought it would work because of the bugged text

thin crane
#

i got some exalts out of it though i guess

spare fern
fresh vault
#

it should just be more obvious that the requirements are tied to completing a trial on a certain level and not to a certain item

frozen crag
thin crane
#

idk, my minions delete everything lol

fresh vault
#

a easy fix would be to explicitly say it doesnt grant the pooint

#

or that it will.

twin geode
#

I have this bug where I can allocate a skill point even though I don’t have any, and they even lit up on the section but idek if they’re actually active

cosmic flicker
#

Is there a way for Console players to set an auto TY message after completing a trade?

#

I feel bad whenever I make a trade and they say TY but I don't have a keyboard and they're gone by the time I'm done fumbling around

coarse fiber
#

New to POE and about to hit endgame. Do people typically “map” solo or in groups? I come from destiny where it’s very common to LFG for endgame activities so Jw

ember wraith
#

Trying to respec tree, how do I delete the travel nodes?

frozen crag
#

well you cannot delete a node that is relied on by other nodes

ember wraith
#

Yes I know, am I missing something

#

ah the jewels

frozen crag
#

ah yes

#

you need to unsocket those first

ripe crescent
#

so is there any way to get high tier way stones when you run out? just ran like 10 or so t1-t6 maps for the last few hours all with 100% waystone drop rates and haven't got 1 waystone the last 3 maps and the ones i do get are all t1-15, not sure how im suppose to climb back up to t12 without trading with somone

#

i do have all of the waystone quality nodes on the atlas tree as well

frozen crag
#

if you have a ton of lower tier waystones

#

you can trade them 3-1 at the reforge to boost +1 level

#

won't be efficient to getting to 12 but you could run a few t8 or something to restart the climb

ripe crescent
torn jungle
#

anyone know if its possible to have multiple arcane surge buffs up and/or stack them?

gaunt breach
#

ayo lads anyone have some spare 18 skill gems they can throw my way

modern geode
#

What happenes if i miss the ascendancy points at the end of the trial of chaos?

woven olive
frozen crag
modern geode
frozen crag
modern geode
coarse fiber
#

At what point does ascendancy 3 trial start dropping?

frozen crag
red oak
#

How much do you guys spend on fresh endgame gear to cap off resistances in the like? Torn between crafting my own upgrades or saving exalts just to buy good starter gear

frozen crag
#

save exalts to buy gear, do not spend exalts "finishing off gear" unless its got reallllly good mods already

thin crane
#

you can get decent gear for 1-3ex each to start off

#

then use that decent gear to farm maps to get more exalts/stuff to sell for exalts to buy better gear.

frozen crag
red oak
#

Think this is good enough to slam? Hmmge

thin crane
#

imo no

red oak
#

I would need like 3 ex to finish it which might better go to buying gear

#

Ok

thin crane
#

but thats bc for me a piece of gear would need a stat that i really really really want

#

already b4 i salm it

#

like my witch build scepter has to have +minion skill 5 or more

coarse fiber
#

Ive learned to save exalts to trade with. You guarantee the stats you want

thin crane
#

and %spirit before i even think about slamming it

red oak
#

Tbf i already want all 3 on that but maybe the rolls on it aren’t as good

#

Ok then

polar seal
#

lads is there an easy way to fast calculate weapon dps ?

thin crane
#

if those are stats you really really really want and think its good enough of an upgrade to what you have already... then sure... slam it

#

but again. i would just save exalts to get the EXACT stats that i want from trades before i end up slamming stuff.

lime cargo
#

Is there a new cosmetic in the game?

grim pecan
#

Anyone have shrine hideout in their maps?

neon remnant
#

How did flicker work for you? Reading those pre-EA messages about flicker, quarterstaff and monk hurt me
Not sure how I feel about changes they made to the skill, poor frenzy mechanics and flicker eesh

queen cloak
#

It's basically just a ult button

#

To me it's dead

crisp cypress
#

what lvl r u all and how many hours

normal osprey
#

+200% waystone drop chance not ONE drops in two of the same waystones

thin crane
#

im 71 at 120 hrs

#

and have a lvl 40 warrior as well

crisp cypress
normal osprey
#

damn cuh im at 72 at 52 hours and didnt play poe1

queen cloak
#

RIP

normal osprey
thin crane
#

i spent a ton of time running all 6 of my friends through their campaigns and trials lol

neon remnant
# queen cloak To me it's dead

One of my favorite POE1 skills, sadge
Hell, I want to play frost ranger but there are like... 2 whole bow skills, only one repeatable lol

grand sun
#

ehy are they nerfing witch but not sorc

thin crane
#

probably half my play time is back tracking to help everybody.

queen cloak
#

Yeah, i loved Flicker Strike too...

restive relic
#

what are the bis flask mods?

grand sun
thin crane
grand sun
thin crane
#

just helpin homies lol

grand sun
#

i get experience, all isnt lost

#

then i discovered in endgame titan is kinda... bleh

#

running away and sundering bc i still get one tapped isnt what i signed up for

#

doing infernalist now

mossy gust
#

Does projectile damage inc/attack damage inc contributes to bleed damage?

thin crane
#

infernalist is fun.

grand sun
potent lodge
#

i am finding the poe trade site to be particularly frustrating... ive messages for 40 people and no one ever replies

#

why do people post shit they dont want to sell?

grand sun
mossy gust
grand sun
#

but sorceress stays the same

thin crane
potent lodge
thin crane
#

or i get rid of my lightning skelly

balmy topaz
#

surely Clueless

mossy gust
rough spindle
#

the thing has 5/6 rolls. will pressing upgrade just give it a 6th roll?

balmy topaz
#

Man, wtf happened to divines 😄
Went from like 9c to 25c over night

wet dew
#

anyone know a fix to the bug that logs you out when you try to go into a map?

rocky badge
#

what kind of runes should you put on your armor ? focus on evrything or specific resistance because somehting are easier to avoid

grand sun
#

how do i post on the trade site

balmy topaz
golden zealot
#

name a better combo

steel bison
#

im bout to upgrade my gear then i read this "Maps no longer have additional elemental resistance penalties inherently applied at Tier 6 and Tier 11 or higher Maps. It is now consistent across all of the Endgame." does that mean my current resistances are fine, or i need to upgrade to tier 11 resistances now?

grand sun
exotic gazelle
#

anyone got a clue what "overachieving spells" are gonna get hit by nerfs?

grand sun
#

also those modifiers make me upset

grand sun
#

ik skele arsonists are getting more spirit cost

woven onyx
#

do i lose the key if I forge the simulacrum key and die?

twin geode
#

Is Ascent to Power in Act 2 Cruel bugged? I’ve killed balbala, cleared whole map and quest still says Search Traitor’s Passage

shell hill
twin geode
shell hill
#

oh

#

im wrong

#

cross that out

split dragon
#

Question: if I use distilled emotions to apply to an amulet a notable passive that I already have in my passive skill tree, it applies again?

woven olive
polar jay
#

why is the node on the top right not "traverse-able" ?

#

I unlocked the adjacent one

woven olive
#

the sekhema trial zone the quest is telling you to find

solar parcel
#

If I press alt and check the tiers of rolls on an item (T1, T8, etc) is that a good way to quickly scan for overall quality? Or can stuff be sellable with lower tiers

twin geode
#

This whole thing is just confusing omg

fresh vault
#

is the "ascent to power" quest bugged?

woven olive
#

yeah the quest text needs to be fixed because you won't be able to find it in traitors passage

fresh vault
#

find what?

#

what is the quest suppose to be

#

is it the ascension quest?

lavish stag
#

Is gain as extra damage better than spell damage + elemental damage on a staff / wand?

fresh vault
#

not sure i understand

onyx ginkgo
#

Hello guys, is someone offering help with 3rd ascendance at sekkhemas

fresh vault
#

how do i complete the third quest

icy fiber
#

i have a maps 0 monster left but its not marked completed. not sure what to do! (hidden grotto)

frail bloom
#

Anyone know if flat phys from rings applies before or after a skill converts dmg type?

fallen belfry
#

what level starts to be endgame? I want to save my currency for items that I won't be replacing anytime soon

quartz gale
#

I've had this happen a few times now where a node I should be able to get to I can not ?

quartz gale
fallen belfry
shut mural
#

why does it say this when i teleport to temple of chaos

i have ascendancy points 1,2,3 and 4. I wanna try this trial for points 5 and 6

#

if im outside of temple of chaos it says different yellow text (i.e i'll get two more ascendancy points)

polar jay
eager coyote
#

What is a solid all around loot filter to use after cruel?

plain crypt
#

what does lost towers do for you? are they worth chasing?

shut mural
woven olive
shut mural
ebon lichen
shut mural
#

someone else said its a visual bug though. so all good. i will attempt this now for points 5+6

plain crypt
ebon lichen
shut mural
shut mural
#

and im too impatient for the patch and its only 1 exalt for each attempt on trial of chaos so im just curious.

#

since they arent nerfing chaos trial at all for melee. so should be do-able

plain crypt
ebon lichen
shut mural
plain crypt
#

ahhh

#

thanks for info

shut mural
ebon lichen
ebon lichen
wintry shore
#

how open atlas passive

ebon lichen
grim pecan
#

Anyone have a shrine hideout in map?

wintry shore
ebon lichen
wintry shore
ebon lichen
frigid lantern
#

anyone bored enough to help me with my ascension 3 quest.... im on my last djinn barya thingy -_-

#

meleee sucks for this haha

bitter vine
#

no

#

why would you think it does when the support gem is what gives -30 damage

#

ppl here are wrong

ember wraith
#

What is the point in exact price on all items when you have to individually price each item anyways?

bitter vine
#

you dont have to individually price them?

bitter vine
#

even if it doesnt say the price beneath its still up for 1ex

#

its if you want to override the price whilst still having it in a 1ex tab

ember wraith
#

Oh sweet

#

So if I have two tabs for selling I should probably do 1 for (all 1 ex) then 1 for things that are 2+ individually priced?

#

Since most things cost 1 ex

bitter vine
#

i just use my 1ex tab for everything

#

and reprice stuff that a) i know is valuable or b) i get spammed for

ember wraith
#

ahhh smart and you just change it for things you need to individually

#

I have been using sidekick and it is very helpful

#

No one has bought anything yet but I have some good stuff listed

spare sail
#

Anyone interested no level req 😉😉 highest bidder wins!

slim mica
#

hey guys, what skill can I use to consume a corpse?

runic phoenix
#

anyone know the stat requirement for a level 20 gem? for a single stat one

runic phoenix
ember wraith
slim mica
#

thanks!

bitter vine
runic phoenix
#

yea seems to be 205

#

thanks

marble fjord
#

did they mention a nerf to the beetle respawn thing

restive relic
#

can i have one meta gem active with one weapon set and another active with another weapon set?

livid nacelle
#

I'm wanting to use Skeletal Reavers with Infernal legion and I'm curious how the ignite works? It says it ignites as though dealing fire damage to minions health, does that mean it's not actually dealing any damage? Things seem to be getting dealt damage while around them.

echo marsh
#

what do you even do here... it ends and no connection, there's water south and north ... so annoying

lavish kraken
#

is there a way to change my ascendancy or am i stuck?

livid nacelle
eternal lantern
woven onyx
#

how likely is it for a corrupted skill gem to get one more slot? is it worth going from 4 to 5 slots through corruption?

frigid lantern
#

Yo can I buy a carry through 3rd and 4th ascendancies

lavish kraken
#

i know i can respec it but i have not had a good time with blood witch to the point didn't put any points in it untill i got my second ascendancy even then the life cost on skill is a lot and i am bad at managing my hp

balmy topaz
ornate vapor
#

How can a passive be allocated into an item?

balmy topaz
copper lark
#

Is there a way to end the delirium if the game bugs and it doesn't end on its own?

balmy topaz
strong parrot
#

How do I farm pinnacle bosses mats? Doing a mirror or a breach only gives you like 5 each time

balmy topaz
strong parrot
forest laurel
#

Is it worth going there? 6 nodes away..

balmy topaz
velvet ruin
#

where do i find the token for my third trial of ascedancy start? i am lvl 69

balmy topaz
#

got this on mine earlier lol, unfortunately all 1ex 😄

forest laurel
copper lark
#

If I divine orb this, will it re-roll the movement speed? Or just the others?

astral thunder
#

Hey guys, question about max level of skills. Normal leveling the gems is level 20 right? If you have an item which gives +6 or +7 to skills, will it go higher then the maximum?

balmy topaz
balmy topaz
astral thunder
bitter bay
#

you know, i kinda get the nerf to arsonist, but at the same time i dont because even when i was using 14 of them with the whole meta build

#

they were not feeling very strong kek

velvet ruin
strong parrot
balmy topaz
plain fable
#

someones offering me 40 for this, am I undercutting myself too hard

lavish stag
#

I bought a weapon off the trade and it doesn't have a spell attached to it. Is that a bug, i don't really use the spell ont he staff so it isn't that big of a deal but ya i was like where is the spell at.

crisp nova
#

whats resistance penalty mean

strong parrot
balmy topaz
blissful garnet
#

Is it possible for me to get to these nodes? Nothing seems to be connecting them

fathom vine
#

has anyone found a solution to the sudden ms spikes that poe occasionally has? it causes unplayable stuttering, and the issue seems to only be in poe, i tried running other games and ms was stable

fleet sapphire
#

Is there a list anywhere of desireable stats/rolls? Like I play sorc so I know what stats sorcs want but I have no clue what a monk wants

marble fjord
#

why is Trenchtimbre even good for summoner

plain fable
#

tf why are people selling jeweller orbs for divines

delicate cedar
#

is there a website to calculate weapon damage/compare weapon dps?

balmy topaz
delicate cedar
#

well caster wep has spell levels

balmy topaz
#

Ah, yeah,
Unfortunately there's no PoB for poe2 yet

#

best bet would be to grab a very cheap "+1 to level of X skills" item, and see how much that improves the skill dps tooltip

keen escarp
#

What do ya'll think would be more beneficial for a Titan? I'm converting 45% of my skill mana costs to health costs atm to support high +skill mods
+33% life leech & 20% of leech is instant
OR
+66% leech & leech is 41% slower

marsh furnace
#

in general when trying to cap resistances what ring bases are the better choices?

balmy topaz
marsh furnace
#

not amethyst?

shrewd basalt
#

I got this quest popup "speak to Doryani" but the dude don't want nothing.
Anybody got any ideas?

balmy topaz
untold parrot
#

Help with Lachlann anyone? No dwoscalling

balmy topaz
balmy topaz
shrewd basalt
#

Thank You 🙂

balmy topaz
fleet sapphire
#

Is there a list anywhere of desireable stats/rolls? Like I play sorc so I know what stats sorcs want but I have no clue what a monk wants

plain fable
#

Is it worth Vaal orbing my main spells in case one of them goes to 5 socket

#

Or should I just wait

bitter bay
#

i dont think the vaal orb can reduce it, but i do think it prevents you from taking it to level 20?

untold parrot
shrewd basalt
plain fable
#

How are you even supposed to get level 19 and 20 gems

#

ive done 16+1 maps and that shit dont drop

balmy topaz
#

can't get lvl 20, level 19 rarely drops from end-game maps

plain fable
#

oh does lv 20 not exist?

delicate cedar
#

does anyone know then if 2hand staff is less or more than wand + offhand assuming you had access to whatever stats you wanted

balmy topaz
ancient sparrow
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looking for kitoko's current. will pay 2 ex orbs

plain fable
noble wraith
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can anyone get their 7th and 8th ascendancy points? streamers says its bugged, the trialmaster

delicate cedar
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i got it yesterday @noble wraith

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the trialmaster froze but came back like 2mins later was VERY weird and i was very tilted lol

noble wraith
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by killing tiralmaster?

delicate cedar
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yes

noble wraith
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what dou mean came back 2 minutes later?

delicate cedar
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he froze the map like he does in the fight

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but it lasted a LOOOONG time

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i assumed it was bugged but he resumed the fight normally

ancient sparrow
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looking for kitoko's current. will pay 2 ex orbs

balmy topaz
rocky pumice
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Is there a channel for price checks? Listed this for 3 exalt, but got a million requests. Not sure what makes this more desireable than other cheap ones listed

astral thunder
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What is that rune called when you socket it in weapon that gives %elemental damage to attacks ?

balmy topaz
balmy topaz
plain fable
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Why are so many items being forced into divines, is something happening to the market

bitter bay
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but its so weak kek

astral thunder
plain fable
bitter bay
plain fable
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so you can sell that for prob 30+ exalts

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which is why u were getting spammed

rocky pumice
upper notch
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does anyone know if soul drain requires you to have culling strike to proc? i dont seem to feel it on any of my spell gems and was wondering if im wasting my time with this support gem since i cant add culling to any of my gems

balmy topaz
plain fable
tacit pulsar
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my boots are at the top, is that a good price for them?

balmy topaz
plain fable
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That's so scummy

delicate cedar
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yep i got scammed 3 divines lol

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as a new player 😦

rocky pumice
tacit pulsar
balmy topaz
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yeah same, they trippled in price over-night 😄

plain fable
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So someone or a group of people banded together to buy out the entire shop of divines and set their own price, and then take advantage of the time when the website isnt updating?

silk notch
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showing boss outside map, whole map is explored, am i missing something here?

mental turtle
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can anyone tell me why i keep getting one shot in TIER 1 Maps 0 mods???

plain fable
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Some people need a hug

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That's so sad

plain fable
balmy topaz
mental turtle
plain fable
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you also have like no hp

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and your energy shield is tiny

balmy topaz
mental turtle
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im lvl 66 should i get out of maps for now ?

astral thunder
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Guess im gonna get f

bitter solstice
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Weapon swapping DoT question. If I have one build that's all about ignite damage, then I switch over to my other weapon which has no ignite perks, Does the DoT damage still tick as if I was on my ignite build?

compact meteor
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does anyone know what the max level of skill gems is?

mental turtle
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20

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and corrupted is higher if its the same as poe1

sharp heath
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Is it easier/more difficult to clear/farm maps in solo or multi? Or is it even?

bitter vine
compact meteor
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oh i ddint know u could currupt them

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cool

bitter vine
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too many factors

mental turtle
sharp heath
bitter vine
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unless you have a group to do dedicated group play with its not worth going out of your way to map with randoms

compact meteor
normal osprey
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unexpected disconnection and bugged maps. fun. fuck this shit dude

gray niche
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How do I hide map mods on the right side?

balmy topaz
agile marsh
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how do i enter the reliquary vault i put in a waystone and clicked transverse but no portals opened

balmy topaz
ivory otter
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What better drops for end game breach or boss?

distant falcon
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do these stats basically mean a flat 52% damage increase?

pine nebula
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how can i buff quality ?

balmy topaz
balmy topaz
distant falcon
balmy topaz
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Not sure unfortunately, haven't played a caster yet

restive pond
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Are there any skills or supports or etc. that consume burning for a bonus?

balmy topaz
restive pond