#Eggwars Newgen Update / Eggwars OG Regression / Eggwars PG Update

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scarlet lake
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Season 3's OG Regression has lasted 15 months and continues despite extensive criticism and a mass exodus of players who were effectively undermined by season 3's changes, eggwars was a minigame where solo players could feasibly take down squads of players using items to multiply their abilities and counter the numbers advantage of squads.
Eggwars was less about grinding wins and more about enjoying the game whether by trolling or stupid challenges like building clay fortresses, season 3 has destroyed that atmosphere with arbitrary limitations like cooldowns and stack limits making numerous items useless and ultimately crippling a solo players ability to counter the numbers advantage of squads.

Eggwars now follows the trajectory of Mineplex minigames where their gameplay stagnates or deteriorates by catering more to competitive players, competition is toxic and when there's too much toxicity and competition new players stop refreshing it. Super Smash Mobs is a prime example having declined by extremely toxic and competitive behavior, players often resorting to cheats and cross-teaming where in many cases players would still lose. Unlike Eggwars Super Smash Mobs does not have a shop or items to multiply your abilities with against cross-teamers that effectively represent an Eggwars squad against a solo player, you have a kit you specialize in with abilities based on the mob and squads can coordinate to counter your abilities, this often necessitated running away to keep your health from depleting and to recharge your abilities.

Similarly in Eggwars a solo player must run away alot in order to manage their health and acquire items to multiply their abilities against pursuing squads, fleeing is absolutely necessary when an opposing squad has more armor, weaponry, health, purchasing power, and reach than you and should not be punished with crippling often arbitrary limitations.

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With the season 3 OG Regression eggwars is now a game for competitive losers to grind wins for leaderboards no one will care about, Super Smash Mobs had a leaderboard but the playerbase was too toxic to care about it, frequently calling each other illegitimate and sad, they just wanted to enjoy the game but competition and toxicity ruined the gameplay.

Squads openly expressed their contempt for solo players in season 2, their toxicity will ultimately undermine the game which they devote their lives to as Super Smash Mobs was undermined by the toxicity of its competitive players, because you lobbied to undermine your opponents the retaliatory absence of opponents will undermine your minigame.
It is not the solo players fault that squads wouldn't adapt to the strategies used by solo players and it's not their fault that the game is not fun when it's rigged for competitive grinders.

For atleast a fourth if not final season of Eggwars, the Newgen Update:

  • Elytra back in the shop
  • Mite Master perk back in the emrald shop
  • Remove stack limits {on everything, including leap feather and TNT}
  • Buff punch bow to punch two {knockback changes to the game itself make punch 1 useless}
  • Add spears {to counter elytra}
  • Remove cooldowns for deployable buildings {they're useless late-game with cooldowns}
  • Add deployable platforms {3x3}
  • New maps with enclosed eggs {deep within unbreakable spaces, encourage fortification and defense}
  • {if enclosed eggs aren't obvious} A pre-match tour showing where the eggs are.
  • More 6v6v6v6, 4v4v4v4, 6v6v6v6v6, 4v4v4v4v4v4 maps {teams are too small, want larger opponent squads}
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TNT being crippled to a stack limit of 8 TNT makes TNT useless, the game needs less niche items and more useful items and that starts with un-restricting existing items.
Netherite armor isn't necessary and ultimately harmed gameplay with knockback resistance, netherite tools however deal more damage and can be added back to the shop.
If a player has the tokens to afford it then no arbitrary limitation should ruin that opportunity, stop forcing everyone to conform to the playstyle of win grinders, we like them because they're easy to troll, we don't like them because developers enabled them to ruin the game.

If Eggwars should continue to change through seasons of varying length there will likely be more controversy, a proposed solution to that is the Eggwars PG Update which would let players customize the match effectively granting the majority of every seasons features, some ultimately cannot be granted due to changes in the game itself but this is better than catering to one toxic competitive group of players who'll push everyone away from Eggwars and kill it.

Cubecraft as a server cannot improve by becoming more homogenous with other servers, eggwars is homogenous with Cubecrafts own Bedwars and minigames offered by other servers, why play Cubecrafts dying version of bedwars and eggwars when Hypixel or another offers a superior version? Cubecraft shoulkd restore Tower defense and Assassinations among other gamemodes which distinguished it from other servers.

sand bison
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stop

scarlet lake
sand bison
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careful what you wish for

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it might come true

scarlet lake
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I will likewise be grateful when Eggwars loses its playerbase

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It can go both ways, ultimately the competitive devotees who grind their lives away for wins will have lost when their statistics are forgotten.

sand bison
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pretty sure the players playing for stats rn dont like the games current state either

scarlet lake
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There's definitely a portion that don't care about the game and just want to have the most wins.

shrewd kite
scarlet lake
shrewd kite
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Not a good response

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You don't copy bad traits if they exist in others

brave lintel
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brother u say ur an "eggwars og" its just a skill issue atp if u can't win against most sweats

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ive only played on and off for a few weeks and i can already beat most sweaty ppl i come across

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even lb players

scarlet lake
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What would you do knowing they could undermine you again.

brave lintel
scarlet lake
brave lintel
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the "wars" format is just inherently competitive, u can't rly act surprised when ppl start to become good and optimize it and create metas

scarlet lake
brave lintel
brave lintel
scarlet lake
brave lintel
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occasionally youll have sweats party queueing in team eggwars but its nowhere near as bad as that is on hive

brave lintel
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so u just gotta hope u can box in with obby

scarlet lake
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Everyone complained that season 2 was too slow, season 3 is even slower without season 2's tnt.

brave lintel
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did tnt even break obby? bc imo def is never an issue unless they got it in the first place

scarlet lake
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That primary use case got removed

brave lintel
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sweat parties can be annoying but ultimately ur expected to queue with someone else

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it is team modes ultimately

scarlet lake
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Cross-teaming is bannable and I want to beat squads by myself.

scarlet lake
brave lintel
# brave lintel it is team modes ultimately

only thing i'd say is there should be a system where they generally try to match u with players closest to ur stats, but obviously don't make u wait forever if they can't

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which i agree for w hive as well

scarlet lake
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Hive doesn't exist.

brave lintel
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this is how it works in any other multiplayer team based game as well

scarlet lake
brave lintel
brave lintel
scarlet lake
brave lintel
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as server devs developing team modes, if u want to retain a playerbase that gets their friends together to play it, u have to focus on them. not the ppl solo queueing.

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other than better queueing systems idk what u think should happen

sand bison
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not sure why he doesnt say that

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could be just ignorance or hes acting ignorant for no reason but it makes him look like that

brave lintel
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none of his issues rly seem java specific either way tbh

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unless theres something im missing

hard pelican
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Eggwars Newgen Update. / Eggwars OG Regression / Eggwars PG Update

scarlet lake
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Using Mineplex's Super Smash Mobs for example

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That was my primary minigame until shortly before it shut down.

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There are players here that are literate and capable of reading and it feels like half of the players here just blindly disagree with me.

sand bison
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youve sent the same thing like 20 times people can just assume what it says

scarlet lake