Bring back support for previous versions cause this new ones is buns

[worldly olive]

Just bring back support for versions 1.21.101 or 1.21.114 cause the new ones are unplayable 😭

[dire eagle]

hows that

u can more or less fix every problem by using oderso atm

assuming ur on pc

[violet vapor]

its not just oderso

i tried all clients(flarial, oderso, voidline and even onix) but none fix the lag, senstivity and cps issue

[dire eagle]

on specifically cubecraft? never heard anything abt sensitivity or cps issues

[violet vapor]

no its minecraft wide

sensitivity is slightly bugged where its not the same as one in the .114 and below(changing it doesnt affect as you cannot find similar)

and inconsistent cps registering

issue

oh and the chat box is also bugged

[earnest oriole]

yeah

the fps drops are insane

the gdk versions also completely screw up mouse inputs

[vestal tide]

ViaBackwards, ViaVersion

With more players Eggwars can use the larger maps it used to have.

[earnest oriole]

???

[proven sierra]

Nope, by supporting older versions that makes it for hackers to ruin peoples game who just want to enjoy some fun.

[vestal tide]

Not like vanilla players can be toxic and ruin the game with lobbying.

[earnest oriole]

yeah cuz its impossible to hack on newer versions

[proven sierra]

Sure look, would you rather that or get killed by someone blatantly flying around in EggWars or SkyWars?

[vestal tide]

If people only cared about having fun then the OG Regression wouldn't have happened, the existing playerbase cares more about winning than anything else.

[proven sierra]

It's definitely not impossible, but it lowers the chances of it happening on newer versions.

[earnest oriole]

it really doesnt

most every major cheat client has been updated to support gdk versions

its been almost 4 months since .120 released

[proven sierra]

That's something out of CubeCrafts reach, only the anti-cheat or players reporting the hacker can solve it.

[earnest oriole]

so why bring it up in the first place? At this point, 114 support has practically nothing to do with the amount of cheaters

just talking to talk

[proven sierra]

You're just wanting more users to be able to hack on the server, which is unacceptable, and really unfair to the CubeCraft community.

[earnest oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

peak ragebait

[proven sierra]

Say what you want, you know you're in the wrong and just here for the chat.

[earnest oriole]

its obvious ragebait/attention seeking when you simply repeat what you're saying without evidence or a proper counterargument while receiving constructive critism

you wont get it

[dark karma]

Theres no actuall way u believe what u saying 😂 😭

[dark karma]

✅

[proven sierra]

There is no actual way anyone invited you to join this conversation and side with someone who is in the wrong. Get your thinking cap on. 🧢

[dark karma]

Actually they invited me to vote for this, and its really funny u think ur right

✅

[proven sierra]

So you're being a sheep following some unknown "tismallah", pathetic.

[dark karma]

Not even unknown, we are friends, and im just saying ur point is so wrong

[proven sierra]

So they got a friend of theirs who is obviously going to be siding with him, to fight me? Oh damn, Yikes. Shiver me timbers.

[dark karma]

He just asked to vote since the versión is rlly bad and ive played there already and ik its bad, then i saw u where yapping lmao

[proven sierra]

Oh? So he gave up and sent his minion to argue? How pleasant.

Nothing will get changed by this anyways, does this channel say "suggestions", No.

[dark karma]

https://tenor.com/view/floreyonce-family-guy-peter-griffin-fat-gif-14408743807094970321

[proven sierra]

An animated image cannot help you at this moment in time.

Although, you can make suggestion at https://www.cubecraft.net/forums/suggestions/, seeing as you're so desperate for CubeCraft to fail.

[dark karma]

https://tenor.com/view/floreyonce-family-guy-peter-griffin-fat-gif-14408743807094970321

[dark karma]

🥺

[proven sierra]

Please don't ping for unnecessary things. I'm a busy man.

[trim mural]

[dark karma]

✅

[proven sierra]

You're now blocked, have a nice day.

[earnest oriole]

☑️

[nova blaze]

Cry

[proven sierra]

Have fun in my blocked list. 😭🙏

[nova blaze]

Cry

[dark karma]

Tuff

[trim mural]

[violet vapor]

those are java plugins idts theres ViaBedrock(?)

[violet vapor]

???

btw cheat developers always update their cheats

and a cheater wouldnt care for the fps drops on newer versions

nor does it change the amount of cheaters

[proven sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/that-dude-nobody-invited-lmaoo-who-invited-bro-who-invited-gif-11875828629841920543

[violet vapor]

this is the 'community' corner

so maybe you might want to move to a more 'private' corner since it seems you are having problems with people's opinions as you seem to have your own opinion and cannot fathom that others might also, have opinions.

[proven sierra]

I don’t have an issue with people having different opinions. That’s normal. I just see things differently in this case. We don’t have to agree, and that’s fine.

[violet vapor]

Yet, you're trying to force that your opinion is superior and other people are just trying to make the game bad?

[proven sierra]

I’m not saying anyone’s trying to make the game bad. I just genuinely think my suggestion would improve it. Believing something is better doesn’t mean I’m attacking everyone who disagrees.

[violet vapor]

you might have a beast of pc and not experience this drop of frames and thus are thinking everyone wanting previous versions to be supported are 'trying' intentionally to bring more cheaters?(which obviously is still a stupid take.)

[violet vapor]

And can you prove that "your" suggestion 'will' definitely improve the game?

[proven sierra]

It’s not about having a powerful PC. Performance affects different players in different ways, and that’s fair. My point about older versions wasn’t about accusing anyone of trying to increase cheaters. I was talking about the practical impact, not people’s intentions.

[violet vapor]

if you think so

Go ffa

and you'll see

[proven sierra]

If you have a problem with my opinions, you can contact my manager.

[violet vapor]

Maybe you need to improve your wordings

[violet vapor]

really?

What I am digressing is your behaviour towards people who were giving their own opinions

[proven sierra]

I haven’t attacked anyone for having a different opinion. I’ve disagreed and explained my reasoning. There’s a difference between challenging a point and being disrespectful.

[violet vapor]

"There is no actual way anyone invited you to join this conversation and side with someone who is in the wrong. Get your thinking cap on. 🧢"

[violet vapor]

.

"Oh? So he gave up and sent his minion to argue? How pleasant.
Nothing will get changed by this anyways, does this channel say "suggestions", No."

[proven sierra]

That’s fair. If my wording came across the wrong way, that wasn’t my intention. I’m focused on the impact of the change, not attacking anyone personally.

[violet vapor]

i believe all those above are directly quoted words of yours

Enlighten me if I am wrong

[violet vapor]

Yet you fight like your life depends on it?

[vestal tide]

Manage only the java server, have bedrock players play on the java server

[violet vapor]

thats not how servers work...

[vestal tide]

The bedrock server is just a proxy that redirects to the java server

[proven sierra]

Continue to prove how clueless you're.

[violet vapor]

and you're being rude again

[violet vapor]

if you're talking about Geyser(service used for Java-bedrock bridge) it would make technical difficulties

[proven sierra]

Managing only a Java server and telling Bedrock players to move over ignores the fact that many Bedrock players are on Xbox, PlayStation, Switch, or mobile. Java isn’t available on those platforms. They’d need a PC, a different version of the game, and a different account setup. That’s not realistic for a large part of the player base.

[violet vapor]

and thats again not how servers of different versionsand styles work

[proven sierra]

Rude? I’m just being honest about the comment. There’s a difference.

[vestal tide]

Emulators like pojav

USB hubs for mouse and keyboard

[violet vapor]

You dont get it dont you?

[violet vapor]

requires a premium account

[proven sierra]

Pojav is currently listed as illegal under Microsoft's TOS.

[vestal tide]

And bedrock doesnt?

[violet vapor]

and merging of both servers is nigh not happening

[violet vapor]

but java does

[proven sierra]

I do get it. I just don’t agree with your reasoning. Understanding something doesn’t mean I have to accept it as correct.

[violet vapor]

proxy(java-bedrock bridge) will require peole to have access to premium accounts since Auth would be done on Mojang servers

[proven sierra]

Wouldn't be taken well by the community.

[vestal tide]

Some of their folks are in the Ep-PDF files.

[violet vapor]

being honest doesnt mean you call someone stupid for something they might have no idea of

[violet vapor]

1 answer would be that: No its not going to happen

[proven sierra]

Just because some files exist somewhere doesn’t change the fact that Pojav Launcher itself is not officially supported and is considered a violation of Microsoft’s Terms of Service. That’s what matters for legality and account safety.

[proven sierra]

I didn’t call anyone “stupid.” I said their point was clueless or misguided. There’s a difference between critiquing an idea and insulting a person.

[vestal tide]

In the US, you push the legal boundary as far as you can and exploit the flaws of linguistics.

[violet vapor]

You should watch your tone

[violet vapor]

well thing isnt legal or illegal

😭

its technical limitations+backlash from community etc

theres a lot of things

its not as easy to just flow all players to java servers

[proven sierra]

I’m speaking respectfully about the idea, not the person. My tone is fine, I’m just being honest in my critique.

[violet vapor]

Honest does not equal to rudeness

I knew he did not understand what he was talking about

and I explained and not called him out for being 'clueless'

because this is normal

for people to not understand how things work behind the scenes

by your 'honesty' diplomacies would be ruined

Tutorials would end before the start

Terms & Conditions would be just two words

[violet vapor]

"You're just wanting more users to be able to hack on the server, which is unacceptable, and really unfair to the CubeCraft community." Ah, the Gold of contradictions.

[heady aspen]

@proven sierra pipe down boy

"Fictionwhisperer"

😭🙏

[hexed minnow]

I feel as though the “whisperer” part of their name is a bit misleading

[heady aspen]

lmfao

[violet vapor]

YO

MRGHOST U

[heady aspen]

yo king

queen...💔💔💔

[violet vapor]

yo- uh... bishop!

[violet vapor]

hru

King India

[heady aspen]

Goood hbu

[violet vapor]

good too

[heady aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272308642741354550/1469332704800804864/image0.gif

[violet vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/hd-rickroll-rick-astley-4k-gif-23699798

💀

vip attachment

[nova blaze]

its bad on a 50 series too

[violet vapor]

ik ik

that guy was talking nonsense 💔

[heady aspen]

i think his name explains his behaviour

"Fiction"

he needs to get a reality check 💔💔

[violet vapor]

yes King India

💔

[heady aspen]

😭😭

[nova blaze]

an update sadly wont happen to allow 111/114 version no matter what, they dont care and never will
they just gonna ignore the problem until a stable version drops which could be months really

[violet vapor]

MrGhosto u 😭

[violet vapor]

this is like how when the ctf 10v10 update happened

[nova blaze]

its not the first time definitely

[violet vapor]

22 upvotes to 175 downvotes

💀

[violet vapor]

neither the last

[nova blaze]

it sucks that cause of the amount of console/mobile players they get their player count is always peaking at just about 3-5k players less than hive

so they have no reason to care

and console players dont have the option to go back in versions

[violet vapor]

you're console?

[nova blaze]

no

[violet vapor]

yeah

[violet vapor]

but you're right

these new updates are horrible

frame drops are somehow worse on 26.0

[vestal tide]

When encouragement can't work then coercion will.

Aim for their money and they'll care.

[violet vapor]

Bro, Java will not comeback this way

[vestal tide]

Bedrock wants to kill Java, Java wants to kill bedrock.

[violet vapor]

No

both want to live in harmony

but java is too far gone for a comeback now

[vestal tide]

Well the OG Regression was voted for by Bedrock players and forced onto Java.

[violet vapor]

instead of trying to get bedrock players to java by java proxy bridge

[violet vapor]

I do not know about that

but like

in this way

you'll only get hate and toxicity from bedrock players

CC java is dying like Hive java was

[nova blaze]

Cry @proven sierra

[violet vapor]

theres no more playerbase

left

to keep it living

[vestal tide]

Too F|<ing bad, everyone's going to be toxic about anything.

[violet vapor]

and active

[violet vapor]

thats just how internet is

Well

Ciao goodnight

[vestal tide]

So let's ignore bedrock and give Java some long overdue attention.

[violet vapor]

The way would be get back some of the original playerbase

somehow

which

[vestal tide]

It's not as active because of neglect and homogeneity

[violet vapor]

is inherently impossible now

[vestal tide]

Replace the playerbase.

[violet vapor]

Neglect, yes... but the playerbase was already declining

[violet vapor]

thats not easy

and it doesnt work like that

[vestal tide]

Because of the repetitive nature of Java multiplayer, everything's homogenous.

[violet vapor]

But theres uniquness too

many great servers died like this for example Kohi

lunar

etcetc

[vestal tide]

Hypixel hasn't changed for years, it's a glorified skyblock server with vegetative minigames and maphias and criminal organizations.

Hypixel can't be the gold standard of Minecraft servers forever.

[violet vapor]

But Hypixel isnt pulling players like just by existing

its active

with content creators

which we know that cubecraft has killed

itslef

[vestal tide]

They aren't getting new players because no new minigames are being made that really appeal.

[violet vapor]

and many other things

[violet vapor]

Thats not entirely wrong

and many favourite older minigames have been removed

[vestal tide]

Cubecraft is going to kill its own playerbase surrounding eggwars, may as well drop the OG Regression and replace the old playerbase through new gameplay unlike that favoring OG squad players.

Or the OG Regression will be the last season never to be updated again, just like Mineplexes Super Smash Mobs was neglected and faded into naught.

[serene turret]

https://discord.com/channels/174837853778345984/1468487546240766134

• No CBF
• Less FPS
• Less game optimazions
• Java Hot keys not possible yo able and desable(wicht messes my keys up, its not an big deal for everyone)
• More laggy
• Clients issues( like GDK not supported for other versions)
• More hard to implement texture packs
• And many, many other players dissatisfaction.

i talk abt it in this other comunity post, check this all, thx for the support

[violet vapor]

Hey @ionic prism,

I wanted to ask if it would be possible to allow versions below 1.21.120 — specifically 1.21.114.

Since updating to 1.21.120(and above btw), performance during PvP has noticeably worsened. Fights that were previously smooth now come with hard FPS drops, especially when multiple players are nearby. Standing in a lobby is fine. Moving around is mostly fine. But once combat starts… the frametime spikes.

On 1.21.114 although, this simply wasn’t happening

This isn’t about trying to exploit anything or gain an unfair advantage. There aren’t combat-breaking differences between these builds. It’s purely about stability. PvP depends on consistent frametimes and reliable input response. When FPS tanks mid-fight, it directly affects gameplay.

And its not PvP alone, almost all of the experience on Cubecraft's all gamemodes are affected. This is not some issue which should be taken lightly, by thinking only a minority is experiencing, a lot of players dont have discord or have moved to other servers(bcuz cc already has a reputation for not listening to many issues or delayed responses/fixes.)

For players on lower-end systems (4GB RAM, integrated graphics, mobile devices), the difference is even more noticeable. What was playable before now feels unstable.

Allowing 1.21.114 would help players who are currently struggling with the optimisation changes in 1.21.120 — at least until future patches improve performance.

I’m not asking for outdated long-term support. Just minor-version flexibility. Even temporary support would make a big difference.

Thanks for considering it.

Punish me if you may want to, due to me pinging one of your esteemed admins, so this issue(and suggested temporary fix) can be brought to light.

[hexed stone]

ngl they dont listen to us so

no point in trying

[violet vapor]

better yet to expose hypocrisy once more!

[rain siren]

@proven sierra Just wanted to tell you, that your point is dumb, and have a great day.

[violet vapor]

🗣️ 🔥

[glacial cypress]

I like the idea And I'm supporting this

[proven sierra]

It's amusing that I live rent free in your head.

[nova blaze]

while im with it, i really dont see it happening, i doubt they care enough, they'll just keep on pushing saying they are working with microsoft on fixing this issue, and then sometime this year there might be a stable GDK release

[nova blaze]

Cry

[rain siren]

Seems like I got a fan

[violet vapor]

I do understand your point and I as myself have no trust in CubeCraft Management as their literal staff is also experiencing yet they're turning a blind eye

but to me, it doesnt hurt to support this good diea

[heady aspen]

He lit just said you have a dumb opinion, why would u live "rent free" in his head? 😭🙏

[earnest oriole]

This is like the one time to really listen to the community

.120+ is horrid and it has been for 3.5 months

[proven sierra]

I didn’t even say anything beforehand. If he’s still thinking about my opinion out of nowhere, that sounds like free accommodation to me.

[proven sierra]

And that is CubeCrafts fault how?

[earnest oriole]

Who said that?

Oh you’re the attention seek kid 🥺 😢 😢

[proven sierra]

If I was attention seeking you wouldn’t be this invested.

[violet vapor]

Aren't you replying to his message?

[violet vapor]

Is that not in cubecraft's decision to update to a version that's known to be unstable in Performance

while all other servers are still supporting >.120

[proven sierra]

Servers have to be unique, not the same.

[violet vapor]

Whats unique in not supporting a stable version

Tell me ONE disadvantage of supporting 1.21.114

Other than your take that somehow cheaters will be less

and tell me how is CubeCraft unqiue by just updating to bad version

[proven sierra]

Supporting a version just because it’s “stable” doesn’t automatically mean it’s the best choice for a competitive server.

One clear disadvantage of supporting 1.21.114 is fragmentation. The more versions you support, the more compatibility layers, testing, and bug handling you need to manage. That increases maintenance complexity and can introduce version-specific glitches that only affect part of the player base.

Another issue is consistency. Competitive servers rely on everyone running the same mechanics, rendering behaviour, and technical backend. Even small version differences can create inconsistent experiences, especially with visuals or networking.

CubeCraft wouldn’t be “unique” just for updating. The uniqueness comes from being selective about what versions and features align with their competitive standards and technical stability. Updating blindly just to say you’re on the latest version isn’t strategy, it’s reaction.

A stable version for Mojang doesn’t always equal optimal for a large network server environment.

[violet vapor]

Alright, maybe its your time to to get your thinking cap on

was the previous version .114 working before?

is it a new version that wasnt supported

was never handled before?

Did it magically came out somehow now

Was 1.21.114 never handled/tested/worked with before?

[violet vapor]

Yes very clear optimal experience when 90% players are suffering from extreme fps drops and lag

So good

i love not being able to aim just because this new version causing me to drop from 100 to 11 fps during gameplay

[proven sierra]

It working before doesn’t automatically mean it’s optimal to keep supporting it long term.

Yes, it existed. Yes, it was handled before. That’s not really the point.

The question isn’t “did it ever work?”
The question is whether continuing to support it is worth the maintenance cost, testing time, and potential version inconsistencies compared to narrowing support to a cleaner range.

Servers drop older stable versions all the time, not because they suddenly broke, but because maintaining backward compatibility adds overhead. Even if small, that overhead compounds.

Just because something functioned before doesn’t mean it’s the best strategic decision going forward.

[proven sierra]

If players are genuinely dropping from 100 to 11 FPS, that’s obviously a problem. Performance matters more than version numbers.

But that’s a separate issue from whether supporting multiple versions long term is sustainable. If the current version has performance problems, the solution should be optimization, patching, or waiting for a fix, not permanently widening version support and increasing fragmentation.

If 90% of players are actually suffering, that’s data the server should respond to. But decisions shouldn’t be based on frustration alone they should be based on measurable stability, performance metrics, and maintenance cost.

FPS drops are a performance issue. Version policy is a strategic one.

[violet vapor]

can you stop contradicting yourself

[violet vapor]

No one said long-term support

[violet vapor]

Maintaince cost would be factored if cc was only supporting .114

[violet vapor]

it is

dw

[earnest oriole]

Biggest attention seek oat

[proven sierra]

ts guy rlly checked for ai 😭😂

[violet vapor]

Version policy? wdym

this is not some normal thing

[proven sierra]

Version policy is simply the process by which the server chooses which game versions to support and which to drop.

Each large server must decide:

Do we support more than one version simultaneously?

Should we make everyone use the most recent version?

Do we eventually phase out older ones?

That choice has nothing to do with FPS specifically. Long-term stability, bug fixes, compatibility, and maintenance are all important.

One topic of debate is performance difficulties.
Another is a version support strategy.

I'm not contradicting myself when I separate those two.

[violet vapor]

And of course its logically correct to support a unstable version

[proven sierra]

No, it’s not logically correct to support an unstable version. That’s the whole point.

If a version is genuinely unstable in a server environment, then yes, that’s a problem and it shouldn’t be forced.

But “new” doesn’t automatically mean unstable, and “old” doesn’t automatically mean better.

The real question is:
Is the version unstable because of the game itself, or because of how it’s currently implemented on the server?

If it’s objectively unstable for most players, then supporting it makes no sense.
If it’s stable overall but some players are having performance issues, that’s a different conversation.

Calling it “unstable” doesn’t automatically prove the policy is wrong. It depends on actual data, not frustration.

[violet vapor]

of course its logically correct to support a version which is causing performance issues and negatively affecting experience all over server and platforms

[violet vapor]

ah yes, truly, the 90% suffering players are less important than the 10% who might be fine

[proven sierra]

Where is the 90% number coming from?

If that many players were genuinely dropping from 100 FPS to 11, the server would be flooded with reports, clips, and complaints. That would be impossible to ignore.

If it’s widespread, show data.
If it’s isolated cases, then it’s not “90% suffering,” it’s specific performance issues affecting some players.

I’m not saying ignore performance problems. I’m saying decisions should be based on actual metrics, not dramatic percentages thrown into chat.

If almost nobody is suffering, then framing it as “90% vs 10%” just isn’t accurate.

[violet vapor]

btw you have to spend like 10 mins to think of a counter arguement shows how much sense you're making of supporting something thats not correct and very much wrong

[violet vapor]

Minecraft as a whole is suffering

many bedrock players are complainting

go and check bugs.mojang

[violet vapor]

You are the only one in this thread who is fighting against the idea

oh wait you're so right i forgot!

CubeCraft has done same before!

like when the 10v10 update had 175 downvotes and only 22 upvotes right?

and they totally fricked up their maths

and that 22 is truly greater than 175

just like how the 32-2 is objectively the same scale!

[proven sierra]

Alright, let’s slow down and stick to facts.

I’m not disputing that some players might notice FPS drops or bugs. But blowing it up into “Minecraft as a whole is suffering” or comparing upvotes like “22 is greater than 175” is just exaggeration for effect.

Decisions about version support should be based on actual, measurable issues: reports, crash logs, performance dat not hyperbolic ratios or anecdotal complaints.

If there’s concrete evidence of widespread issues, that’s actionable. Otherwise, it’s not a “90% vs 10%” debate, it’s hypothetical drama.

[proven sierra]

Thinking before replying isn’t a weakness it’s called reasoning.

I’d rather spend 10 minutes making sure my points are logical and based on facts than just repeat whatever the crowd says. Supporting something “correct” isn’t about agreeing with the loudest complaints; it’s about looking at actual data, performance, and stability.

[violet vapor]

You're just saying that the players experiencing are a minority. That cc doesnt have to gaf about them. That we are exaggerting. That You're right and everyone else is wrong.

[violet vapor]

Reasoning is easier and quicker when the arguments are logical and make sense

not when you're basically trying to prove an issue as "wrong' trying to make it metric based, trying to defend yourself

[proven sierra]

I’m not saying CubeCraft shouldn’t care about anyone. Every player’s experience matters.

What I am saying is that decisions like which versions to support should be based on measurable evidence, not dramatic exaggerations or isolated cases. Highlighting that “90% of players are suffering” without proof isn’t ignoring players, it’s about making sure the server acts on real, verified data.

I’m not claiming I’m right and everyone else is wrong I’m arguing that facts should guide decisions, not assumptions or frustration.

[violet vapor]

Alright go to bugs.mojang or actually

just go to general chat

and ask

[proven sierra]

I get what you’re saying. I’m not trying to “prove anyone wrong” or just defend myself. I’m just trying to separate opinions from actual data so decisions can be made based on what’s real, not just frustration or exaggeration.

Reasoning carefully doesn’t slow things down it helps make sure the points actually make sense and won’t cause more problems later.

[violet vapor]

how many people are going through the issues

you're missing the point

and trying to frame a 'logical' argument

I've seen multiple people like you

[proven sierra]

I understand that players might be experiencing issues, and I’m not dismissing that. The point I’m making is that before making a blanket claim about “everyone suffering,” it’s important to look at actual reports and data.

If there are multiple people affected, that’s valid and should be addressed. But framing it as “90% of players” without clear numbers isn’t helpful when discussing policy decisions.

I’m not ignoring players, I’m just emphasizing that decisions should be guided by real evidence, not assumptions.

[violet vapor]

Do. You. Even. Know. What. You. Are. Talking. About?

[violet vapor]

so what everyone is saying this just bcuz "haha lets blame cubecraft for no reason at all!"

Your logic contradicts itself

[serene turret]

the funniest thing is no mod response

😭

[violet vapor]

Mods are also affected tho, saw a message from verbadmtm someone who was talking about the fps issue

he was a mod

[serene turret]

Yes, i ment, not in this type of comunity publisher

[violet vapor]

thats why i am saying the management is basically ignoring just bcuz the fricked up and now dont wanna own

yea

[serene turret]

i got a anwser one time

they said that is not possible to conver GDK to NWK support

i forgot the old version name

[violet vapor]

UWP

[serene turret]

yes uwp

but the do not explain why

[violet vapor]

the funny thing is that it was all working about a week ago

[serene turret]

every other server has support to uwp EXXLUDING cuvecraft

[serene turret]

yes...

[violet vapor]

and all major servers (hive zeqa etc) still support uwp

[serene turret]

the funnist about it

[violet vapor]

ikr

[serene turret]

is that bridge duels is UNPLAYABLE FOR 2 DAYS

and they still ignoring

[violet vapor]

😭

[serene turret]

do u wanna see the clip bane?

[violet vapor]

tbh they ignored the 10v10 issue for an year

[violet vapor]

sure

idm

[serene turret]

hold on

https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/blockwars-after-scoring-an-pit-i-got-disconected-from-the-macth-but-it-only-happens-in-bridge-duels-not-in-other-gamemodes.402816/

😭 😭 😭

[proven sierra]

I do know what I’m talking about. I’m not saying CubeCraft shouldn’t address player issues if there are real problems, they deserve attention.

What I am saying is that exaggerating numbers or assuming “everyone is suffering” isn’t helpful when trying to have a productive discussion. My logic isn’t contradicting itself; it’s separating actual data from perception or frustration. Blaming the server for unverified claims doesn’t solve anything.

The goal isn’t to defend CubeCraft blindly it’s to make sure decisions are based on facts, not assumptions or hype.

[violet vapor]

share on yt!

[violet vapor]

I think you need a reality check fr

[serene turret]

https://tenor.com/view/who-is-he-who-is-that-who-are-they-peppa-pig-the-dude-nobody-invited-gif-7795800917251558454

[violet vapor]

ofc everyone here saying that they're affected are just making it up right?

we're are all high and mad

and insane

you're the only one with 'logic'

👏

[serene turret]

i could do a list about bad player expirence and bug that CC have, but the thing is that it would be just ignored

[violet vapor]

yeah

[serene turret]

and noghing will change

[violet vapor]

the list is also endless 😭

[serene turret]

whole CC comunitys is upsat about new versions

and they afe the ONLY SERVER THAT CHANGE FOT THAT

reason?

[violet vapor]

other than the 2 disagrees i think lol

[violet vapor]

yeah

[serene turret]

"improve and update the server for better expirence"

what they did?

[violet vapor]

zeqa supports versions all the way from 1.21.0

[serene turret]

no updates, cosmetics update, and added more bugs

[violet vapor]

they're not even a featured server

[serene turret]

Yeah bro

i mean i play CC since 2023

i want to grind my LB bro

[violet vapor]

Ive been since 2020-21

[serene turret]

but the server is making it harder

[violet vapor]

yeah

[serene turret]

No toghts that new version sucks

WHY THEY WOULD REMOVE CBF BRO

[violet vapor]

everyone knows that as well

[serene turret]

what is mojang doing fr

[violet vapor]

cbf?

[serene turret]

click beetween frames

[violet vapor]

uh?

[serene turret]

so...

[violet vapor]

are you talking abt the cps

issue?

[serene turret]

i will do a short explaing

[serene turret]

in old versions less than 1.21.114(it included) they ha e CBF

[violet vapor]

i see

[serene turret]

where u can click beetween the frames

like, do 60cps, or higher

[violet vapor]

ohhh

i see

[serene turret]

because the click informations is keeped, and throwed to other frames

but in 1.21.120

its removed

if u click too fast, that u click beetween a frame and other frame

ur clicks just vanish

so ppl with more FPS can click more than some with 60~120 fps

[violet vapor]

ah i understand now

could this be a bug?

or is it some gdk thing

[proven sierra]

If you think calling out exaggeration is “insane,” that’s fine, but pointing out that numbers and claims need evidence isn’t a reality check, it’s basic reasoning.

You don’t get to frame every skeptical or logical point as me being “the only sane one.” Being annoyed or frustrated doesn’t automatically make everyone right, and it doesn’t make facts any less important.

So yeah, I’m sticking with logic over hype.

[serene turret]

nope, they disable the cbf...

[violet vapor]

Yes everyone is definitely exaggerating

truly

[proven sierra]

Yep, exactly exaggeration doesn’t change reality. If everyone’s so “suffering,” the evidence would show it. Until then, I’ll stick with facts over drama.

[violet vapor]

maybe you should provide evidence that all of us are 'exaggerating'

[violet vapor]

totally! you're so smart! so intellectual! and not the same guy who said he was being respectful yesterday while actively insulting everyone who spoke against your stupid argument!

[proven sierra]

I don’t need to prove every single person is exaggerating. I just need to point out that claiming “90% of players are suffering” with no evidence is exaggeration in itself.

Respecting opinions doesn’t mean ignoring logic. If you want to argue seriously, bring actual numbers or reports otherwise it’s just drama, not a debate.

[violet vapor]

Alright

check general chat

chec bugs.mojang

check youtube complaints

you want me to link?

#💬︱english・general message

#🔪︱battle・arena message

#🥚︱eggwars message

#💬︱english・general message

#💬︱english・general message

#🔪︱battle・arena message

#🔪︱battle・arena message

#🔪︱battle・arena message

#💬︱english・general message

#💬︱english・general message

[hexed minnow]

I think you might get banned if you keep spamming, so be careful while making your point

[violet vapor]

well these are all different messages

in proofs

[hexed minnow]

Still “spamming” technically

[violet vapor]

ig

well

cant help it

[hexed minnow]

Yeah

[violet vapor]

@proven sierra I think these are enough for now?

although

there are like way more

[hexed minnow]

Where did fictionScreamer even go

[violet vapor]

just in cubecraft's discord

[violet vapor]

went to use ai to make another 'logical' argument ig lol

[violet vapor]

like around 400 results in cubecraft discord alone

then theres other servers

Youtube

https://youtu.be/7jufOn7ntGU?si=NYCERekuPpmYkTpc

heres a visual if you need

[vestal tide]

Nobody cared when my experience was limited by 2010 laptop hardware so certainly not for anyone else in the same situation.

[nova blaze]

thats a personal issue

[vestal tide]

Modern versions have more assets to be implemented in existing minigames as well as to create new ones, Cubecraft should at least be fixing their existing minigames if not bringing back originals and creating truly unique minigames.

It's too late to revert to older versions, it's been years since Cubecraft left the 1.8 community, the best they can accomplish with supporting older versions is recovering a remnant of invested players.

[vestal tide]

There's always the option of emulating Java on mobile devices, plugging in a USB hub for a PC experience.

Bedrock is inherently worse for the lack of modding for performance mods and the marketplace.

[violet vapor]

the current issue is the update based by mojang not hardware....

and Minecraft bedrock has really good mods too

look at Jujutsu Kaisen by Hero Productions

it even has cutscenes built into it

and its free

you can get mods from internet too

Marketplace doesnt have to be used at all, infact i never use/used marketplace ever

[violet vapor]

Do you know how many issues that have?

Or How iOS devices are an exempt to this

[vestal tide]

Some phones have a dedicated desktop mode, most others should work fine with usb hubs.

[violet vapor]

again

iPhones exist

and currently theres no good emulators beside pojav and probably mcinabox

and it would require everyone to buy minecraft

and dont even get me started on issues about playing java on phones

You're talking about eliminating bedrock from the equation completely

which will never happen

[vestal tide]

Java cannot be eliminated entirely either but some Bedrock fans are very enthusiastic about killing off the Java server.

Both platforms want more attention and Bedrock gets too much.

[violet vapor]

Thats their opinion

no one here is talking about eliminating java

and this thread is actually completely unrelated to java

[violet vapor]

Bedrock gets 10-20 times more players than java all of the time

in this case, bedrock makes way more money than java

[vestal tide]

Updates that are designed for Bedrock players get pushed onto Java as well leading Java players to quit.

[violet vapor]

and way more well recieved

[violet vapor]

thats not how it works...

if you're talking about mc as a whole

Java and bedrock get parity updates yes

[vestal tide]

The Eggwars OG Regression was not designed for Java.

It appeals largely to Bedrock players.

[violet vapor]

How do you know that this might appeal to bedrock players who might be completely unaware of java troubles?

[vestal tide]

I've been arguing with them since the day it dropped.

https://discord.com/channels/174837853778345984/1317916238772703385

The first of numerous threads.

[violet vapor]

I dont see people telling about eliminating java in the firsr many messages

[vestal tide]

Some arguments were had in the eggwars channel before I organized them into threads.

@lapis pecan was one advocating for Java's shutdown

[violet vapor]

I saw but idts you had to ping them....

[lapis pecan]

there were a lot of us

still should get shutdown btw

[vestal tide]

Mutual annihilation

[lapis pecan]

its not

the bedrock server is 8 times bigger and literally funds the java server

not sure if its still like that but for at least 9 months the java store was closed so it was making nothing

[vestal tide]

If Cubecraft would invest more into Java.

[violet vapor]

😭 GUYS THIS THREAD IS NOT JAVA v BEDROCK

ITS ABOUT THE TRASH DECISION TO REMOVE SUPPORT FROM UWP VERSIONS

[lapis pecan]

last time they did that they lost hundreds of thousands of java players

[vestal tide]

Too bad, this is the general sentiment I observe, Bedrock against Java, OG against Newgen, the playerbase is divided and toxic.

[violet vapor]

No one was talking about java here bruh

[lapis pecan]

yeah they needed to drop older versions so updates could work on both bedrock and java

[violet vapor]

we were talking about how cubecraft should bring back support to uwp

versions

bcu new ones are unstable

[lapis pecan]

if java were shutdown you wouldnt have this problem

[violet vapor]

whats your problem with java

[vestal tide]

If the Java server gets shut down there's even less choice for multiplayer servers in an increasingly desolate multiplayer space.

[violet vapor]

No it would still exist

this is about bedrock solely!

[lapis pecan]

the issues are coupled because of that

[violet vapor]

bro

[lapis pecan]

if updates didnt have to work for both bedrock and java they wouldnt need to cut support

[violet vapor]

Java was nowhere talked about here

[vestal tide]

There's Geyser to let Bedrock join Java.

[violet vapor]

it worked 2 weeks ago

so what now

anyways

both are separate

[violet vapor]

Geyser doesnt work like that

[lapis pecan]

surely there must be a reason they dont use geyser

maybe its the fact that the guy who made geyser works for cubecraft

@torpid aspen is there a reason cubecraft doesnt use geyser? also why were previous versions dropped

[proven sierra]

Microsoft blocks the use of things such as geyser allowing featured servers to let bedrock players to join java.

[vestal tide]

All the more reason to join Mojangs lawsuit and hurt their money.

[quick siren]

I genuinely would like to know why CubeCraft was so quick to drop 1.21.114? What’s the rush? Are they usually like this with dropping previous versions