Competitive is ruining the server

[hard urchin]

Cube craft claims to be a casual server yet the playerbase refuses to accept this
Every other game is full of sweats and speedrunners which causes the casual players to stop playing overtime.
They’ve catered so much to the competitive players who will sometimes go as far as to go to hub to get out of games with players who also have rank just because they don’t want a challenge in their game or they’ll leave because they got a map that wasn’t ideal for speedrunning the game.
The changes that cater for people to end games faster are what’s causing players to stop playing as much, remember how when mega first got added it would have around 800 players and now it’s lucky to have more than 20 it’s because of players who insist every game must be for leaderboards.
Cubecraft i recommend reworking the generators back to where they were and maybe you’ll get some of your older playerbase back as well as make an environment that’s. Friendly to newer players of the game that keeps these newer players.
I genuinely feel like if we kept these shops as is but readjusted the generators speed back to where it was it would balance out for both casual and competitive players to both be able to have a fun environment where they can enjoy the game.

Those of you who have stated that speedrunning has always been a thing are correct, however the new generator speeds have made it where that community is thriving whereas the community the game was designed for has been effectively punished and it’s what’s lead to the sheer drop off of players, eggwars is no longer fun for the Paul playerbase how it was meant to be, it’s now only fun for those players who godbridge to your island and hit you off the edge before you get any items because it’s your first time using the shop and you have no clue what’s going on

[hard urchin]

It’s a true fact, I’m just saying

[fresh bone]

Yes let’s ban all good players!

[frosty falcon]

ikr

[hard urchin]

That’s not what I said, I said let’s bring back some of the changes that allowed casual players to thrive as well

[hard urchin]

Learn to read buddy

[frosty falcon]

i aint reading all that

nobody will

[hard urchin]

Essentially what I said was that the playerbase drop off from peak was because they made changes that punished the players who were casual players and not playing for leaderboards

[regal trench]

Womp womp

[vernal urchin]

You are talking like "Let's allow hacks"

[little fulcrum]

while i support reverting the eggwars gen speeds back to the original values, a lot of your argument is garbage

though the people in the replies are worse

[hard urchin]

wtf are you talking about

[hard urchin]

What do you mean my argument is garbage, less catering towards sweaty play allows for casual play

[hard urchin]

You’re the problem.

[little fulcrum]

cubecraft isnt catering eggwars for competitive or casual play, its highly likely that they want to get rid of it entirely

[regal trench]

Damn I didn’t know I am the reason that people are quitting

Never knew only playing snipes and pg can affect public games

[little fulcrum]

and thats strictly based on how the eggwars rank has a permanent version and the bedwars rank has always been a subscription

[hard urchin]

It doesn’t effect public whatsoever, but your mentality of joining a discussion that doesn’t effect you is what makes you part of the issue

[regal trench]

cuz ur funny

[hard urchin]

I mean, they made all the ranks subscription based now, getting perm ranks isn’t a thing anymore

[hard urchin]

Thank you for the rage bait

[little fulcrum]

the reason the eggwars player count has dropped so much is because of season 2 being bad and bedwars releasing during that time caused most eggwars players to move the bedwars, but not the ones who play for stats, which made the game feel more competitive

plus minecraft in general losing popularity

tbh i dont think they can do anything to save eggwars atp and i dont think they want to save it anyway especially since eggwars and bedwars are taking from the same player pool

[hard urchin]

So essentially what I said but different words

[little fulcrum]

yes but people who already have a permanent rank arent going to buy the subscription, while on bedwars there was never a permanent rank

[little fulcrum]

not really

iirc season 2 of eggwars was intended for casual players

not sure if they directly said that but just before they released it they got rid of the eggwars focus group

imo if cubecraft wanted to be a more casual server they just need to add hidden elo matchmaking but they dont want to do that and now theyd probably need to get rid of a region for that to work

[hard urchin]

That’s fair enough

And it’s only worse because people moved to bed wars to grind stats because egg wars became to hard for them to grind stats on

[mystic carbon]

honestly i feel like there are way more nons in bedwars than in eggwars

ive like never seen anyone grind bw tbh

[hard urchin]

I know people who grind out 50 wins an hour for 6 hours a day for the leaderboards on BW because it’s easier to grind out wins than eggwars is, due to the sheer amount of non sweats

[frosty falcon]

actully the other way around

[hard urchin]

They quite literally made everything go way faster for speedrunning and added leaderboards which only helped the sweats

[static karma]

bw giga?

[hard urchin]

We already have game modes for casual play, we don’t need a bed wars one that’s gonna also get ruined by sweaty players

[static karma]

oh u talking about bedwars

forgot its existence

50 wins in 6hrs is so slow then

[static karma]

nothing is ruined the server is equal everyone can play as they want

[hard urchin]

It’s not as fun as it used to be, and players in games have dropped off from where they used to be

[static karma]

Minecraft is just less popular

[static karma]

oh 50 wins a hour what a lie lol

thats not possible at all

[hard urchin]

He was 49th in bedwars at the time but he was grinding out 50 wins an hour

[static karma]

he is a liar

[hard urchin]

Skyplaysyt is his username if you check the leaderboard

He was grinding out bedwars wins to get to the leaderboard

[static karma]

50 wins a hour would need like 20-25 minutes queing time so it would mean 40s average

[hard urchin]

He said he was getting about 50 wins an hour, and he was in the leaderboard at the time

[static karma]

40s is a speedrun, not a grind under normal conditions and its not possible to maintain that speed for a long

[hard urchin]

But even if it’s not a full 50 an hour it’s still an insanely high amount of wins to grind out in an hour for multiple hours a day, for a long time

[static karma]

yea called grinding

[hard urchin]

That’s still an absolutely insane grind for wins an hour

[static karma]

i remember grinding bw duos it was more 25wins a hour

and i have wr for it

so i used to get fast games

we were getting 100wins a day and it was taking like 4hours maybe a bit less

[hard urchin]

But grinding out wins for a leaderboard spot is not the point of the game

[regal trench]

That’s how some people have fun

[static karma]

why there is leaderboards on the game then

[hard urchin]

Because the competitive players complained

One again, a change catered towards competitive play that negatively effects the casual playerbase

[little fulcrum]

that didnt happen

and leaderboards being in the game dont really affect competitiveness that much

winstreak tracking did though

[static karma]

leaderboards has been here since the creation of the game

everyone can play however they want, Cubecraft is well done in that point

[hard urchin]

How long have you played?

[hard urchin]

Everyone can play how they want, but the server is catered to the players who speedrun to grind leaderboards,
Players who will leave a match if they get a hint that it’s gonna be inconvenient for them to get a free win

[static karma]

since 2020-2021

[static karma]

who leave games lol

[hard urchin]

The leaderboards got added in 2021, they were never in the game before then

[hard urchin]

It happens constantly

[static karma]

there is videos of 2020 leadeboards on yt

[static karma]

i would like to have some names lol

[hard urchin]

I promise you, leaderboards didn’t exist before they added these changes

[hard urchin]

You yourself literally said that you’d leave a game if it wasn’t a map you preffered, I also have had multiple people in the eggwars channel of the server tell me “if you don’t like it just leave the game”

They added the leave game item in the hotbar specifically because players would /hub if they saw another player vote or if they noticed that other players had rank

[static karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCoh0W-j9Yg

[static karma]

i have map selection so i dont get in maps i dont want

[hard urchin]

So the players without rank just have to suffer to your playstyle when they’re learning the game

[hard urchin]

Can you find anything before this when it comes to leaderboards, no because they added it as a way to encourage fast gameplay and hinder casual players

“CubeCraft has changed generator speeds multiple times, primarily to adjust gameplay pacing and address issues in games like EggWars. Initially, speeds were increased on Bedrock for faster gameplay, but after a controversial update reverted them, the developers doubled them again in the "Overpowered" mode to maintain a faster pace. Other changes have been made for technical reasons, such as lag caused by particles or to ensure consistency across versions”
Exact quote btw

[static karma]

am i in every games

[static karma]

yes because a lot of games was taking too long

like 95% of games are slow games

[hard urchin]

They really aren’t, almost every game ive gotten into in the last few months that ive come back to the server has had at least one person try and end the game instantly

[hard urchin]

No but there’s at least one sweat in every game, especially on those maps

[static karma]

if it was true then how would i grind

[hard urchin]

Because you’re the sweat in your games dipweed

[static karma]

chill lol

[hard urchin]

Just stating that reality of it

[static karma]

stop being mad bc we killed u in 39s

[hard urchin]

Why did the game have to end while I was in the shop

As a controller player I should be able to at least get a weapon and armor before I’m hit off the edge

[hard urchin]

Grinding a leaderboard for a server that claims to be casual is the problem

[static karma]

i do whatever i want

[hard urchin]

Cool buddy, took you long enough to come up with that response. What are you, twelve

[hard urchin]

I honestly think that the leaderboard being added
And generator speeds being increased are what caused so many of the problems with the server

[static karma]

im 20

[static karma]

most of games are casual

like 99% of cc players are casual players

only few hundreds of players have high stats and a lot of them dont play anymore

[hard urchin]

I havent had a single game take longer than 5 minutes in a long while unless I forced it to go longer by camping, idk what you believe casual to be but I feel like a casual game would be at least 5 minutes I’d honestly prefer to go to that 10 minute mark

Even in mega mode there’s always that one guy who just needs to rush for the game designed to be casual to end instantly because they want to grind the leaderboard. Like I’ve stated before I had a mega match end in 49 seconds and that was absolutely absurd and it was because a party of 4 loaded into mega to grind stats

[static karma]

thats actually the goal of the game

take stuff and rush

we are not on fortnite

[hard urchin]

The goal of the game is to be the last man standing, not to do it fast

Ending the game in leather armor and a stone sword in 30 seconds kind of gets rid of the point of having a shop

Actually new idea, for a game mode rush mode, no gens just kits and blocks

[static karma]

im the last stading with doing it fast

[static karma]

thats what u supposed to do when u speedrun

[hard urchin]

They should make a game mode for this so you guys leave regular players alone

[hard urchin]

Glad you’re good at winning before they have a chance

[hard urchin]

Go check the post I just made,

[static karma]

even if they have a chance

[hard urchin]

So much for playing for fun

[static karma]

i do

[hard urchin]

Glad you enjoy low skill gameplay that doesn’t require brainpower

[static karma]

i have a lot of brainpower

[hard urchin]

Then use it bud, because bullying brainless toddlers who’s first time playing the game is you killing them in the shop doesn’t require any

[static karma]

i wont try hard on cc

[hard urchin]

Press f to doubt

[little fulcrum]

leaderboards have always existed

[static karma]

there is no doubt

[regal trench]

Stone pick, no armor. Get that right pls and Ty

Someone lost a game and is crashing out on dc

[hard urchin]

Leaderboards were added In 2019, or at least that’s when cubecraft added its own leaderboard onto the website

[hard urchin]

Not really, it’s an entire environment atp

[hard urchin]

Most of yall get some sort of armor eventually during the game bud

[hard urchin]

https://discord.com/channels/174837853778345984/1434875874359906314

community post I made for a game mode suggestion

[regal trench]

If I have a whole team of speed runners I don’t

[hard urchin]

Cool, now go give me some feedback on the game mode suggestion I made please and thank you

[regal trench]

Done

[hard urchin]

I can tell you didn’t read it

[regal trench]

Mb that you can’t make a good suggestion

[hard urchin]

Mb that you don’t have the brain capacity to read a semi decent idea

[regal trench]

Mb that you think everyone has to agree with you

Having 8 X on your suggestion really sucks

[hard urchin]

Just because the players who play the game for numbers does not mean that I am entirely wrong

The facts of it are that the changes that cubecraft added ended up with players leaving the server

[regal trench]

Eggwars has always been on decline since bedwars was added

Also Minecraft as a whole is dying

Also reverting to old gen won’t make any difference

We’ll still finish games fast

[hard urchin]

Then allow the Change to be added, if you’re gonna be an a** about it

[regal trench]

We’ll just adapt and nothing will change

[hard urchin]

Or hear me out, don’t punish the casual players for playing for fun

[regal trench]

Or just don’t complain

[static karma]

the games are getting faster, which makes sense, it's the natural evolution of a game

players get better with time

in every games

[hard urchin]

Don’t complain that they made a change that punished me while favoring you

[hard urchin]

The games were gettting faster with the way it used to be, but at least it was reasonable with the game speed

[static karma]

games do not take less time than before

[regal trench]

You don’t see me complaining

[static karma]

atleast since like 2022-2023 times are almost the same

[hard urchin]

They have changed significantly but you haven’t played long enough to notice where the change was

[static karma]

players got better

[hard urchin]

That’s because you’re the player being favored not punished buddy

[static karma]

fast players are not favored lmao

[regal trench]

Current eggwars favored you guys more than the 2024 eggwars

[hard urchin]

Some players did get better, some of your better players left, the game is now full of brainless monkeys

[hard urchin]

Explain the changes that favored casual playerbase

[static karma]

why u dont kill them then

[regal trench]

In 2024 18 iron is enough to kill everyone

[hard urchin]

I do in every game, but I try and give them some sort of chances

[regal trench]

Now i need 20

I have to wait an extra 1 second

Nooo

[hard urchin]

Big whoop you need 2 extra iron to end the game

[static karma]

22*

[regal trench]

Oh well current eggwars is great for scrims

[regal trench]

19 for blocks 1 for pick?

[static karma]

oh i take armour and sword

depends on the game u are playing

[regal trench]

If I play casually I do, if not I just go blocks and pick

[hard urchin]

Personally I like to get at least a stone sword and armor before I start attacking people

[regal trench]

That’s a lot of time wasted

[static karma]

when i go through mid i take iron and buy stone sword at the guys base

[hard urchin]

The only people who think it’s a time waste are the ones grinding stats, or for speedruns

[hard urchin]

Hear me out, you can get a little bit of gear before you rush someone

[static karma]

i dont need

i buy armour and sword for squads

[regal trench]

You acting like a stone sword is so much better than wood

[hard urchin]

It kind of is, even if you don’t think that one damage matters in op items it matters a lot

Which I know you’re always going OP no perk

So don’t even argue for normal

[static karma]

idk swords are weird today a guy was hurting me more with stone sword than me with iron sword

[regal trench]

Not worth waiting for an extra 15 seconds

[hard urchin]

15 seconds, such a huge time save

I’m sorry I don’t enjoy having my game ended by a naked guy with a fist while I’m in the shop

[static karma]

it happened to you once

[hard urchin]

It’s happened many times, and over time I’ve just accepted it and stopped playing solos

[static karma]

which maps do u play?

[hard urchin]

I’m a casual player so even though I have rank I don’t hand pick my maps

I don’t pick maps based on how good they’ll be for a speedrun

I just let the game decide

I just got an idea

[regal trench]

Then you wasted your money on rank

[hard urchin]

Back in my day, we bought rank so we could vote on items and didn’t have the ability to pick our maps, hope this helps you 🫶🏻

[regal trench]

Times changed

[static karma]

i always have been able to pick maps

[regal trench]

You’re not using rank to the fullest

[hard urchin]

Nahh, really

[hard urchin]

You haven’t been playing that long buddy

How many times have I had to say this

[static karma]

i play since 2021

[hard urchin]

My point exactly

Not that long

[static karma]

oh u talk about how the game was 7 years ago

[hard urchin]

I talk about when the game was ran by the players

When the game catered to the majority of the players because the players new what they wanted

The player’s opinions used to matter

[regal trench]

Now it doesn’t

So just adapt to changes

Stop living in the past

[hard urchin]

Games used to last slightly longer, but they were fun

I want newer players to get that experience I had

[regal trench]

There’s always been speedrunning

[hard urchin]

Yes, but the game wasn’t as easy to speedrun back then

[static karma]

i got 2hrs 40mins game

[hard urchin]

So the speedrunners were rare

[hard urchin]

I had a game last 4 hours

But it was fun, because it gave me something to do on a Saturday with all of my friends

We played squads and the games lasted 10-20 minutes

[static karma]

staying in a game for 4 hours is crazy

i have a life

[static karma]

i did too and i prefer when it last 1-2 minutes

[hard urchin]

I was playing with my friends and had finished all my chores, the only thing I had going on for me was dinner
I was - child

[static karma]

but u can still do this

[hard urchin]

I don’t want games that take hours, I want them to take maybe 5 minutes

[static karma]

most of normal games take more than 5 minutes

even while grinding squads today i got few +5mins game

[regal trench]

It was the same

Only like a few seconds difference

[fresh bone]

I agree

Ban everyone who’s good at any game mode

[static karma]

are u good

[hard urchin]

Not what I said but pop off queen

[regal trench]

I’m not

[fresh bone]

ban anyone who’s bad too but wants to play competitively

[hard urchin]

Try again princess

[static karma]

so with ur ideas how i play fast ? bc i want to play fast

everyone is supposed to play as they want

thats what the server is actually doing but if fast players cant play fast then not everyone can play as they want

[hard urchin]

The tweaks to gens are literally all I would change

Speedrunners who play fast could still play fast, but it would give newer players a chance as well

Is the extra 3 seconds really going to harm you that much

[static karma]

i dont think that 3 seconds would change anything for new players

[hard urchin]

Either slow the gens a bit or put the maps back to their OG spacing

[static karma]

most of maps are big now

for each gamemode there is big and little maps

[frosty falcon]

ur logic makes no sense or ur typing things wrong

[hard urchin]

My logic is that bedwars and eggwars megas were both designed for casual players

Competitive players realized that casual players were easier to kill

The competive players switched to the casual game modes so they could grind out wins

This bedwars mega would eventually become the same way as the other casual modes have, and eventually it would die off

[static karma]

leaderboard players always played casual modes as there is only casual modes on cc

[heavy zinc]

True... nobody is going to play a mode where they encounter a party of 10 tryhards every two matches.

Its a fact that eggwars mega is dying partly because of that.

Although tryhards have always been everywhere, I dont think there is anything to worry about.. :/

The problem must be the time of day, the back to school, less popularity, etc etc...

[hard urchin]

It doesn’t even take a team of 10 sweats to ruin a game, most of the time it’s just a single group of 4

[static karma]

eggwars is dying at all just move to skywars

[fresh bone]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-dad-laughing-speed-dad-crying-speed-speed-ksi-speed-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-1466628274697419264

[twilit magnet]

How did I only now see this
This is the dumbest post I've seen yet

[twilit magnet]

Followed by the dumbest comment ever witnessed

[frosty falcon]

real

[regal trench]

I love India

[vernal urchin]

I hate India👋