#"Drag" appeals are way too easy to fake

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arctic echo
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Hello there!
Please read the whole post before replying

Ban appeals in themselves are a great thing to the game, as they add a second chance to everyone who gets banned. They have the chance to prove themselves and explain why they should be unbanned. However there are many problems with the current appeal system.. Its way too easy to fake an appeal

Right now the appeal system works like this:
If you are banned for macro / auto clicking, you send a video of you drag clicking in a creative world and/or on Zeqa clutch practice and boom. Unbanned.

The current problems all together are:

  1. The standard is low
    The standards of drag clicking has really fallen low, as they will accept pretty much the lowest of low. I have myself seen some appeals that were really bad somehow being accepted.

  2. Overwhelming amount of reports
    There are so many reports for auto clicking / macro and the staff team seems to have given up, so they start to accept just about anything so they can get through all the reports.

  3. Faked appeals
    Its become easier and easier to fake appeal your ban. Its being done like this: one of your friends is a legit drag clicker so you ask them to make a video for you, and then you pass that along to the moderators who obviously sees someone legit dragging and the player (who cant drag) gets unbanned and can continue to auto on the server. Even worse is they can now claim they have already appealed before so there is no point in reporting them, leading to fewer reports against the player.

What can we even do?

  1. A more practical appeal system
    They in theory could make a more practical way of appealing auto clicking. a possible solution could be a vc with the banned player screensharing them on their main account drag clicking and doing it well enough to the point it looks like the report. The player appealing should also be screensharing from their main discord account which has their banned account linked to the discord account. That way we could filter out people trying to cheat the system. A slacking appeal with barely any good drag clicking should NOT be accepted if it doesn't match up to the in-game clutches.
    Now if the player who is appealing their ban isn't having a good day with their drag clicking due to, sweating, being nervous etc. they should get a second chance some other day and if unsuccessful there, then they probably can't drag click.

  2. Moderation has to be better
    Currently some moderators allow even the worst of the worst appeals. No hate towards mods at all, as I'm sure they have a bunch of appeals and reports to look through, but they really should take more time to approve appeals, or have more people screenshare their drag clicking.

  3. A simple solution
    Ban drag clicking. Hear me out. There has been so much controversy around this, and there are many arguments for it, such as, mobile players cant compete nor can controller players and its leading to many problems within the community. Well what if we just outright banned it? Would that really be so bad. I mean many of the problems in this post would be solved, it would also make the game way more pvp skill based, and games that would usually last forever because of infinite clutches, now will take much less time. (Thinking of snipes here, like uchiha's megas stream or ullo's squad snipes)

  4. CPS cap!
    If banning drag clicking is going too far, then how about a cps cap? This would allow for clutches whilst not entirely extending games to beyond infinity. A cps cap of 25 should be enough to tell auto clickers apart from the rest. And yes i do know they can just set an auto to 25 cps, but we cant make things perfect.

Do you have any good solutions or feedback? Please let me know!
If we want any kind of response from the cc staff team we have to push this out to them. They have to see it for it to make any kind of impact! Any feedback on this would be of great use!
Take care everybody <3

wintry cargo
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I am not reading all that

vagrant gyro
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tl;dr: ban drag clicking

potent frost
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About the cps limit

Having abnormal CPS pattern over 15 gets your kicked

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That only applies to left click tho

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I would agree to make it the same for right click and possibly make it a bit higher like 20 for clutching

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Point 3 won't happen, they did state that mostly cause it was banned and gotten unbanned

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Now for point 1 I don't think that is a good idea, it will require someone to install discord if they don't have to, their PC/mobile/console can't screenshare and most probably won't be able to hand appeal

arctic echo
potent frost
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Now I understand that you could take your friend to do the appeal for you but I don't think there is a solution for that, you can have your friend VC for you too

potent frost
arctic echo
potent frost
arctic echo
potent frost
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Dealing with hackers isn't that easy unfortunately

arctic echo
potent frost
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You need to be in game to do /passport

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Also alot find it difficult to link

arctic echo
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No no i mean they need to link their xbox account to their discord account

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Like this

potent frost
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And there will probably be excuses like I can't sign in and errors and all of that

arctic echo
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There’ll be excuses for everything

potent frost
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Yea

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I think the best thing cubecraft can do about this is improving their anticheat against alts

arctic echo
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Totally agree. Alting is a huge problem and the biggest source of reports that staff has to deal with

ornate thistle
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That's a pretty good idea but why is there no cps limit for right click

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Ppl getting 50+ cps for block placing in egg wars and saying that they are drag click which is absolutely a lie

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Left click has cps limit of 15 ig but there's no limit for right click and it's not only a problem on cubecraft every server which ban ppl for high cps is only left

tacit cipher
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CPS limit will fix everything imop

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imo*

vagrant gyro
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banning drag and double will fix every thing

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cuz then they can just add the cps ban back to sentinel and nothing will get through

potent frost
vagrant gyro
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well you cant ban one or the other it needs to be both

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plus when this was the case there were very few cheaters and the game was fair for all players (no insane pc advantage)

arctic echo
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Why should it have to banning both? That doesnt make a lot of sense. Then we only have what single click, jitter and butterfly. Sure that will make it fair for every platform but its not gonna be that fun nor competitve. I think a cps cap is enough, something that blocks you from getting a higher cps than say 25.
All drag clickers are gonna be sad if they ban it, because they spend months even years practicing it. It takes so much, time, effort and skill to perform well

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Its not fair for non draggers to go against draggers. But on the other hand it isnt fair we throw away all the progress drag clickers have made

vagrant gyro
vagrant gyro
arctic echo
vagrant gyro
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the point was that they arent drag clicking

arctic echo
vagrant gyro
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most players who claim theyre drag clicking are just double clicking

vagrant gyro
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correct

swift plank
vagrant gyro
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also correct

ebon coral
nova furnace
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I THINK U BANNED ME

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B4

vagrant gyro
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would have to be like 3+ years ago if it were me

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whats your ign

nova furnace
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LOL

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LOL

vagrant gyro
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yes that was me

nova furnace
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I got unbanned in a day

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😦

vagrant gyro
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ok where are all these whitenames coming from

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literally dead thread then 4 ppl show up

nova furnace
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uh

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a server

fierce mantle
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😂

fierce mantle
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Because is a good thread?

inner hill
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gng

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what

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this is the most

nova furnace
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bro Sami

fierce mantle
inner hill
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dumb thing ive heard

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all day

nova furnace
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this guy banned me once

inner hill
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brooo

nova furnace
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@vagrant gyro

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got me banned

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crazy shiii

fierce mantle
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They seem like they'd do that the

inner hill
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the only thing thats correct is that u need a mouse that can double click

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but drag clicking is a whole other thing

vagrant gyro
nova furnace
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Or wait no

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I showed a handcam with gameplay on hive and they accepted it

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😭 😭 😭 😭

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Totally diff kb

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Cc staff r just dumb these days

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I showed I can click

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And they accepted

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And next time I got banned I went
In a world and just spam placed blocks with handcam and got unbanned

vagrant gyro
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there was a time when double was bannable