#Make Eggwars Great Again! [EGGWARS REVAMP]

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hallow merlin
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I'll keep it short and simple since your time is valuable. Dedicated skilled players no longer play Eggwars. Cubecraft is struggling to gain retention because the average player lacks self-awareness and hogs/camps resources, making everyone leave for faster-paced servers.

Eggwars is a good gamemode, but many of its mechanics have been stripped or outright removed, causing gameplay to last for a minimum of two hours due to campers, turtles, and item hoarders.

1. Completely remove caps on all items especially TNT: TNT is a weapon that intermediate/skilled players use to launch enchanted gapple spammers in the air in overpowered lobbies. TNT is an excellent counter to eggcrowding--a method used for squads to act as human sheilds and basically have a hitbox blocking the egg.

2. Bring back Elytras: Players who play a defense-first game will camp and turtle underneath the map, usually building obsidian bases below the map itself, and crouch for the remainder of the game. Elytras were an excellent counter as teams could fly and TNT spam defensive players. Elytras are also useful for dynamic movement in mega maps and some players build their skillsets around elytra movement.

3. Erosion enchants need to be stronger: Erosion needs to be at least 3x stronger than it is now to be effective. Erosion is a win condition mechanic that shuts down armor-stackers in overpowered lobbies who gapple spam, forcing larger amounts of damage to be dealt.

4. Competitive Modes: 99% of Eggwars lobbies consist of non-verbal players that hog resources and ruin gameplay. This is an issue exclusive to CubeCraft and isn't something you'll see on Hive/Galaxite/Lifeboat which always has competition and thrill every round. A ranked mode should be added with the only requirements being one message sent to chat at any point and time + a minimum Eggwars EXP level to filter out deadweights.

CubeCraft should seriously reconsider not having the option to play with functioning players.

proud crater
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separate competitive modes wont work and its already confirmed that theyll never be a thing

hallow merlin
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I guess they don't want player retention then

proud crater
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1 & 2 are fine as long as elytras are expensive
3 id rather not have

hallow merlin
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The actives say otherwise

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aka CubeCraft clan types

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Really this isn't about you considering you did claim that you yourself are an inactive

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and four checkmarks right off the bat is pretty good

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I'm still gathering clan support

raw moss
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I've already went into detail about this.

hallow merlin
raw moss
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Not for what you expect

proud crater
hallow merlin
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shoot

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I forgot half of my clan doesn't play Cube anymore or even is on the cube server

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there goes like. 20 potential people D:

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@rugged lotus thanks g 😎

proud crater
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although i think hidden elo matchmaking would be much more "casual" than queue based matchmaking

proud crater
proud crater
hallow merlin
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right, and clans are active

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and more will come to support

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Inactive voices don't matter

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especially lurkers

proud crater
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id argue that f2p and java voices dont matter but sure

proud crater
proven cypress
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(I aint reading allat)

proud crater
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tl;dr for this:

  1. uncap tnt limit
  2. add elytra
  3. double erosion
  4. (ignore this one) add a separate ranked mode
proven cypress
# hallow merlin I'll keep it short and simple since your time is valuable. Dedicated skilled pla...

I just read the key points (stuff in bold)
What i have to say:
everything is a good idea, except the competitive modes suggestion. Cc doesnt even have enough players for that, and queues would become longer. If people wanna play competitive, they can always ask people to play scrims.
The erosion suggestion seems the best because rn eggwars fights are like way too long. And gaps make them so much longer

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Idk, im not an eggwars player but when i did play it it felt like all the fights were way too long

proven cypress
proud crater
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fights were the perfect length

proven cypress
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🤷‍♂️

raw moss
naive karma
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its not that deep

raw moss
naive karma
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r we fr

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hypixel is js a better version by far

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and u will never

proud crater
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regardless cubecraft should focus on beating hive since theyre somewhat close to it

raw moss
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They're a skyblock server with old pvp gamemodes that haven't been updated for 10 years.

woven phoenix
proud crater
raw moss
woven phoenix
raw moss
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Adapt

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Counter them

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It's not their fault that you won't counter them.

woven phoenix
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I never said I couldn't counter them

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Ik I can just peel at them

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But it's just more work

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Annoying

raw moss
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If I can afford 9 stacks of weakness arrows and have you pinned in a corner desperately clinging to a clay building in the void I'm going to bow-spam you until I'm out of arrows.

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It's called having fun.

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I could end it quicker but that's not so fun

woven phoenix
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Is ut really fun to bow spam someone what's so fun in that I don't see any fun in it

woven phoenix
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Aha

raw moss
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Let's say the troller is being trolled

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I'm the one being bow spammed

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I can survive and try to play the reverse card

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I don't care as long as I can still beat them.

woven phoenix
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Hmm alr

raw moss
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Another way to put it is taunting

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You get a bonus for taunts

woven phoenix
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Imagine

raw moss
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1 point per consecutive arrow in that situation would be lucrative

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Very exploitable so it needs a better implementation

hallow merlin
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10+ minutes for each pvp battle proves my point

woven phoenix
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🥀 🥀 💔

hallow merlin
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yeah. Didn't expect much from another weeb anime pfp

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9+ upvotes though!

woven phoenix
woven phoenix
raw moss
hallow merlin
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nons
been top 10 on Eggwars for months

woven phoenix
hallow merlin
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CasualPlayer410 should be a name amongst higher team groups

woven phoenix
hallow merlin
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right because you're new

woven phoenix
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Yea yea

hallow merlin
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and that rank doesn't improve your stats

woven phoenix
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Im not that new tho

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I've played for a year

hallow merlin
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Cool. 2020 here

raw moss
woven phoenix
hallow merlin
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move aside. This thread has actual support from actives and not weeb anime pfps

woven phoenix
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Im just saying

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Egg wars was way worse b4 the "og" update

raw moss
woven phoenix
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:o

rich glacier
hallow merlin
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true true

rich glacier
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You can't troll

woven phoenix
raw moss
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I can troll my opponents.

rich glacier
raw moss
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So if I offend a snowflake with a vague statement I technically ruin their experience.

rich glacier
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Am only saying the rules, I didn't make them

hallow merlin
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@raw moss ignore the rank buyers

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this thread has support

raw moss
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Let's get that rule removed.

hallow merlin
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they're angry that people dont want this gamemode to die

rich glacier
woven phoenix
raw moss
rich glacier
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Am not even trying to argue, I just listed a rule and said that 4 is confirmed to not happen

woven phoenix
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Btw guys can I ask do you guys own any rank?

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Should I also point out that us "rank buyers" is the reason cc still exists

raw moss
hallow merlin
hallow merlin
rich glacier
hallow merlin
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There is constant mutual funding

rich glacier
hallow merlin
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Minecoins are a scam

rich glacier
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Either way what you said earlier is wrong

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And am not really a big fan of minecoins either way

wooden jackal
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They just need to revert eggwars to how it was before the og update with maybe js a few tweaks for balance

copper cloud
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Never

proven cypress
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None of us

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And cc java is clearly the inferior version due to a smaller player base

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They can't make it the better version because they lack the players for that

merry atlas
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Im not sure about bedrock, but on Java the issue is that egg is extremely unbalanced

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Games last so long

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Armor is very cheap and very good

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Weakness arrows just extend games

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In other words people don’t die

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Removing item cap for items like leap feathers wouldn’t combat this

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Eggwars definitely needs a big update though

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Also can a mod remove one of the checks and a cross

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Not that I disagree but people should be able to express that instead of @raw moss not allowing it

twin parcel
twin parcel
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Tnt spam is the worst thing in youre whole message

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Every mobile player would just buy stacks of tnt and camp in obi

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And Elytra is too op

twin parcel
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Idk what u think you are

twin parcel
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Ignoring the part that i played on mobile for 3 years

magic wedge
raw moss
# magic wedge

That decision will be overturned or there will be consequences.

raw moss
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There have to be win conditions or else everyone survives for too long.

magic wedge
raw moss
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As people overthrow corrupt agencies and impeach corrupt public servants.

proud crater
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cubecraft isnt a corrupt agency and doesnt have public servants so gl with that

raw moss
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Do you understand?

proud crater
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thats a tertible example

raw moss
proud crater
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i guarantee my critical thinking skills are far better than yours

raw moss
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Well everytime I comment some thing I have to further break it down for you.

magic wedge
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man

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Its not to disrespect you but why cant you understand ? a staff member told you that eggwars wont be changed back.

raw moss
magic wedge
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they are not losing players, they are getting much morew didnt you check ?

hallow merlin
hallow merlin
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You're not anyone relevant btw

twin parcel
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Wbu

hallow merlin
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I am very important actually

hallow merlin
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If that wasn't the case, clans would not have responded to this post's hype

proud crater
twin parcel
raw moss
hallow merlin
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Eggwars

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again, former top 10

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If I was active, I would still hold such a position

twin parcel
hallow merlin
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consecutive monthly within 2024

proud crater
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but also you talk like you think youre some activist leader or something ☠️

hallow merlin
# magic wedge

There is a difference between the support of that thread and this one

raw moss
twin parcel
hallow merlin
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Cubecraft will never catch up to Hive if they cater to the non-English, non-verbal players

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I mean

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non-skilled

twin parcel
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Who is the best yk

hallow merlin
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itsk0ppr is better than me I'll admit

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5-5 rn in 1v1s

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Only person to have me tied

twin parcel
hallow merlin
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everyone else is below me in 1v1 records

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kek

twin parcel
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Yk ignsinf?

hallow merlin
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Yes

twin parcel
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Or avalon

hallow merlin
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Not that skilled though

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Avalon lost due to a misstep once in egg

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Complete mental breakdown too

twin parcel
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Uhm

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Ima ask someone rq maybe im just a newgen

hallow merlin
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"Uhm 🤓 "

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You're new correct

twin parcel
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raw moss
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Yesterday I fought some turtle rushers that deliberately stalled the game to trigger a reaction out of me, spamming XD's and mocking messages until I quit, they kept block-spammng and bow-spamming and they kept healing so I couldn't kill them.

hallow merlin
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With TNT, entire groups of players would lose

hallow merlin
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Arguably the least skilled on Cube.

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They only have two strats: rush or turtle

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I have roughly 25 different strats depending on lobby size, skill size, and what languages are being spoken

twin parcel
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Are you speaking about java or bedrock top 10

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@hallow merlin

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Also do you know tenshinlol

proud crater
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why would cubecraft cater to players who wont make them any money

raw moss
proud crater
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you didnt buy anything either

raw moss
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If the playerbase is composed only of ranked and competitive players then they'll devour themselves until there's no one left to entertain them.

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That's how Super Smash Mobs died.

proud crater
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for sure

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you should get a better example than a minigame that never took off on a server that doesnt exist anymore

proud crater
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most people have probably never even heard of that game before

proud crater
raw moss
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You're not a Mineplex OG, it was competing with Hypixel and surpassing it at one point.

proud crater
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so was cubecraft and both fell

raw moss
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You can't just deny everything I say.

proud crater
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well actually mineplex isnt rebuilding they dont exist

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it was never a thing

raw moss
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I have a screenshot of statistics for one account I played the minigame on I could show you.

proud crater
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and how old is that

raw moss
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Right before it shut down last year.

proud crater
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bedrock or java

raw moss
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Java

proud crater
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was mineplex even a thing on java ☠️

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prob got like 8 players ngl i dont remember it being on minetrack

raw moss
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I had 2 previous accounts with even more statistics but I couldn't recover anything from a hard drive failure.

proud crater
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looked it up it had less than 200 players on java while bedrock had 4000 so it was about the same bedrock:java ratio as cubecraft

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if mineplex gets featured on bedrock again i doubt theyd put a server on java

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either way this has nothing to do with cubecrafts income

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plus considering cubecraft lost a lot of devs after eggwars season 2 i dont think you want to argue on that basis

twin parcel
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I asked tenshin and Avalon

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Both said they never saw you

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And former known players wouldn’t care enough about cubecraft to alt

hallow merlin
hallow merlin
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10 likes rn btw

proud crater
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well thats what happens when you cut out most of the bad suggestions and announce the thread to your clan

hallow merlin
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Right, and clans are more relevant and active compared to inactive rank buyers who sit, whine, and watch weeb anime

proud crater
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clans are almost irrelevant

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theres almost no talk about clans anymore

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but ultimately cubecraft already knows theres no money to be made from people who dont buy ranks

hallow merlin
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P2W and greed-first servers die out quickly. It's why Cube is behind hive in every aspect

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Also why Hypixel is successful

proud crater
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its not p2w so gl with that

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cubecraft is behind hive because they still support a java server

rich glacier
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Infact p2w servers are against Eula tos

proud crater
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hive only started beating cubecraft after they closed their java server

digital sinew
# hallow merlin I'll keep it short and simple since your time is valuable. Dedicated skilled pla...

I think your suggestions are good but I think 3x erosion boost is a bit too much, it should be more like 2x, also creating a ranked gamemode is a good idea but the problem is that there arent a ton of people playing eggwars in the first place and if you split the players then there won't be enough for either gm, for example: say there are 1200 players playing eggwars, if you add a ranked version for every game, (1v1, duels, duos, quads and mega) then you split the 1200 in half so there are 600 people playing casually and 600 people playing ranked and if you divide that between the different games then there will only be 125 players for every single gamemode instead of 250, of course those numbers are just an example and the player amount is much more varied but that is just an example, another flaw of adding a ranked playlist is that there will be no way to stop nons from playing, then you would say that there should be a requirement, I think requiring players to get a certain amount of wins or like be level 10 to play ranked is reasonable, that also makes it harder for banned players to make an alt account, so that solves two problems but then there will be way less people that meet the requirements to play ranked and there will not be enough players to play it in order for it to properly gain traction, this is a short explanation of why I think a ranked gamemode won't be successful but if you want me to elaborate or further explain I will.

hallow merlin
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but the non-verbal non-English problem needs to be solved to maintain player retention

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Every Hive Bedwars lobby has speakers

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and people who use their brain to talk

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CubeCraft players rely on the smoothbrains to group, hog, and fade away

digital sinew
hallow merlin
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side tournies

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bu that won't be a thing

digital sinew
# hallow merlin side tournies

I think that would be a cool idea and it could work if some players could organize tournaments and play together that way people don't have to run scrims and get filled in by nons

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Obviously there should be some requirement to get the permission to do that to ensure the quality isn't terrible

hallow merlin
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yes

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  • Must be able to speak proper English
  • some knowledge of PVP/Bridge/Technique
digital sinew
twin parcel
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Damn never saw such a random

twin parcel
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Avalon also said youre just ragebaiting

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Idk what youre even trying

hallow merlin
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Especially one that has 13 likes now

digital sinew
# twin parcel Idk what youre even trying

This argument has been going on since OG eggwars was released, we have finally come to a reasonable agreement to make small changes that simply affect the quality of gameplay for people with specific playstyles, there is no point to continue arguing, the compromise isn't going to get any better than it is now.

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I am on the side that disagrees with these suggestions but I agreed that I would support them if they were tweaked and the possible negative impacts were severely deafened, these suggestions are not game changing but they will make specific minorities of the playerbase happy without ruining the game for everyone else.

twin parcel
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Of course it will

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Tnt spam and elytra are so annoying

twin parcel
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13 is nothing

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103k members but 13 likes who do you think you are

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There was one with around 100 i think

rich glacier
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Heyyy @visual trench sorry for the ping but can you let disagree? It is unfair don't you think and you let us disagree in the other post

proud crater
raw moss
proud crater
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do you think cubecraft is new?

magic wedge
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this guy won't stop talking about cubecraft OG regression, I think you should stop arguing with him @proud crater its a waste a of time. after all, cubecraft is not changing, I trust luca more than @raw moss

proud crater
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im ooxing

hallow merlin
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You should trust the actives more

raw moss
raw moss
magic wedge
raw moss
magic wedge
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if u don't like this eggwars don't play it

raw moss
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We're still going to have problems with it.

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It'll be Cubecrafts problem.

twin parcel
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You’re proving my point

twin parcel
raw moss
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At least I try to confront my opponents.

twin parcel
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Not that hard

raw moss
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They skybase because my run-away items are limited and tnt is limited.

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I don't have a problem killing them for 10-20 minutes as long as I can get to them.

twin parcel
raw moss
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raw moss
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All the maps are very open and not very confined so it's harder for me to block them in.

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More incentive for enclosed maps

twin parcel
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So they won’t hit u down

raw moss
twin parcel
raw moss
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On a skybase and across the map

twin parcel
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Then follow them

raw moss
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Then the cycle repeats

twin parcel
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And If it isn’t possible just block yourself in with obsidian and afk

raw moss
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The main complaint which season 3 was meant to fix was prolonged games, this is not helping.

twin parcel
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Never happens to me rainbowsheep

twin parcel
proud crater
twin parcel
twin parcel
twin parcel
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We should just 1v1

raw moss
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They want to void-kill me

warped steeple
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I still highly doubt the update will be reverted

digital sinew
rich glacier
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Trust me it is overpowered

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Also it was unlimited before, ppl voted to make it limited

digital sinew
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Besides like BBA

proud crater
woven phoenix
digital sinew
naive karma
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jerry i hate uou

digital sinew
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Lol 😂

woven phoenix
woven phoenix
naive karma
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ur fat

woven phoenix
digital sinew
woven phoenix
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Hehe

digital sinew
woven phoenix
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Wut

digital sinew
woven phoenix
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My gf? Yea ik that

merry atlas
merry atlas
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Why not

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It’s just a free extra life if you can clutch

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Although ig bedrock pvp is different

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Because of higher dps voiding isn’t as necessary ig?

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Idk

digital sinew
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You misread who's take was who's

twin parcel
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It aint that hard

twin parcel
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IM JK I AINT GAY OKAY

woven phoenix
proud crater
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what if we started banning macros and auto clickers

rich glacier
# proud crater what if we started banning macros and auto clickers

I don't think anyone agrees with me but I think cubecraft is doing a pretty good job, I know there are a lot of hackers but the same goes to all servers, the anticheat isn't that bad but the mods actually ban pretty good, they usually get banned in less than a day if you report on the forums

proud crater
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it used to be less than 8 hours

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but the problem isnt the ac its the rules

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double clicking and drag clicking shouldnt be allowed

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making it use at your own risk is a step in the right direction but not enough

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even the 4 people who supported blackbeans threads should support that

rich glacier
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Like straight up kick

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Rn if you are consistently 15+ CPS you might get kicked

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But it should be the second you bypass 20

proud crater
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real

rich glacier
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But until that happens time to learn long drag click 🔥

proud crater
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and you should be able to report when its obvious

rich glacier
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You can report if you feel the person has too many cps

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And might be macroing

proud crater
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i dont do that but it wouldnt be hard

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also fire keys

rich glacier
rich glacier
proud crater
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a button that clicks 3 times when you click it

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some mice have it, its for like pistols in fps games and stuff

proud crater
twin parcel
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Model o doesnt always double click

digital sinew
# proud crater double clicking and drag clicking shouldnt be allowed

I mean that would solve some issues but no one really knows what the most effective CPS limit should be, someone would have to test different types of CPS limits and change different variables in order to get the most effective limit, the issue with simply suggesting a CPS limit nerf is that it is probably not the actual best number and if there is or will going to be a change to CPS limit, drag and macro then the limit should be optimized.

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raw moss
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So we've got 16 upvotes and no downvotes, can we get this to be an official poll for more participation?

merry atlas
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Because although you claim it’s what the masses want you still feel the need to not give them the option to express themselves

raw moss
digital sinew
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digital sinew
rich glacier
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You would need alot more ppl If you want it back

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Before og eggwars came everyone was asking for it

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Not just 16 people

raw moss
rich glacier
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💀 💀

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You can't be serious

digital sinew
raw moss
digital sinew
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Almost if not all players that liked this post are bedrock players bro 😭

raw moss
digital sinew
digital sinew
# raw moss 16 upvotes

Does not make a difference, also people can't down vote on this post thanks to you but I would expect that the same 20 people who down voted you wouldnt miss the opportunity to down vote this post as well

raw moss
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This is going to continue until we get the bare minimum if not more.

digital sinew
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Turning off down votes doesn't make this suggestion anymore right

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Besides, if a cubecraft moderator even so much as considers your suggestions then everyone against you will make their voices heard

twin parcel
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Crazy

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Even i am longer here than you

proud crater
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if you cant remember how much complaining happened when eggwars s2 came out then you havent been here long enough to make huge suggestions like what you made in the other thread

bitter breach
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they should just add these so they could see how little it changes the game and people can stop complaining

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lol

digital sinew
raw moss
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Missile wars + eggwars

raw moss
hallow merlin
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Close to 20

twin parcel
hallow merlin
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FREE FREE BBA!

digital sinew
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He isn't coming back

hallow merlin
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No he told me he got a temp ban

digital sinew
rich glacier
digital sinew
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Probably

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Should have been permanent tho

rich glacier
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The case isn't that severe and am guessing he hasn't been banned before

proud crater
rich glacier
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Also why did he get banned

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Hacks?

merry atlas
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Also someone being punished before on the server should definitely be taken in consideration

rich glacier
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Unless ban are completely different on java

merry atlas
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But I’m not sure

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I also don’t care

rich glacier
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Ye lol

hallow merlin
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What are you even talking about

merry atlas
hallow merlin
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oh

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lol whoops

proud crater
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potentially even just a day

hallow merlin
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He has returned

merry atlas
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🙀

rich glacier
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"they tried to silent me, this is corrupt"

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And probably gonna be something like that

merry atlas
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Something about the system and people trying to undermine him

drowsy sandal
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Make EggWars Great Again