#The Anti-Cheat system needs a massive upgrade (and alternative solutions)

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hazy shoal
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FFA is getting unplayable because of how many cheaters there are.
Just today i encountered 8 cheat accounts on FFA. 5 of them were on the same FFA map within 30 minutes.
Of course i reported them however that didnt help to be honest. Two of them got banned by Sentinel after going on a hours long rampage, the rest were "report closed automatically". Reporting on the cubecraft website is pointless because they have thousands of alt accounts and can probably get more anytime they want.

There are ways to prevent this mess i think:
The first and probably much harder to pull off is to overpower Sentinel
It needs to be able to analyse movement of every single person at once.
For example by creating a new Sentinel instance for everyone that joins. Sentinel could log positions of players multiple times per second and calculate the speed at which they traversed between each of the logged positions and this way it could detect any sorts of speed hacks. It could aslo detect sudden changes of direction when a player is mid-air which could effectively detect fly, as well as calculate jump height and speed to detect bhop It would only disable during teleporting and respawning.
The main disadvantage of this solution is it may need a more powerfull server to perform so many calculations at once.

An alternative and much simplier solution is to simply make it so you need at least to be level 10 to join FFA
That would massively restrict the access of cheat alt accounts as well.

true blaze
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Level 10 at least would be very irritating for people playing with friends who aren't usually on cubecraft, the rest I agree with

silent sinew
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None of this works unfortunately

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A level restriction is really bad as we have mostly casual players

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And sentinel is 100x more complicated than what you are suggesting here

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If it was this easy, that would be a blessing

true blaze
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Honestly if less people went and hacked on a game originally made for children that would also be amazing

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The ego to cheat on a videogame must be maniacal

hazy shoal
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yeah, update: 6 more hack accounts in one hour, all reported, 4 banned by sentinel, 2 closed

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i know its not possible to do anything but if it continues like this i think the server will be even more dead than it is now

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just today i saw multiple low lvl people complain about the issue and leave the server

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if sentinel really is so hard to upgrade maybe just change its settings to ban quicker if its possible

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an alternative would be to completely rework the anticheat system to achieve better results, but i am aware that with current lack of funding for the server its basically impossible

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sentinel does ban most of the cheaters i report, the only issue is, it usually takes up to one hour

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maybe it would be possible to make it more sensitive so it would trigger the ban quicker, but that may aslo increase the amount of false bans due to even some normally insignificant errors

hazy shoal
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if that has any drawbacks/cant be implemented then i just lliterally give up on trying to figure out a way

merry spruce
west sage
hazy shoal
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oh well -_-

silent sinew
west sage
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tbh the quality assurance staff are the only people that are really active in suggestions

hazy shoal
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update: 2 of them got banned by sentinel after around one hour

silent sinew
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There are so many servers and only a few mods

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What are you expecting them to do?

hazy shoal
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i was expecting them to ban the cheaters . . ., but okay i understand, maybe it wouldnt be a bad idea to recruit more people? im pretty sure there would be plenty of people who would gladly help with moderating the servers for free

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one disadvantage of this is it would be hard to prevent the abuse of power in a large group of somewhat random people

silent sinew
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people can apply for helper on our server

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which then turns them into a moderator

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people can apply at anytime

hazy shoal
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oh i play here since 2019 i must be stupid sorry XD

silent sinew
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the real problem here is the game itself

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Minecraft is over 10 years old

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and not as popular as it used to be

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so, less people will apply

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and with a server this size, it's impossible for our moderators to monitor the server entirely

hazy shoal
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alright, i understand ig

tawny ridge
fast creek
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Unfortunately cubecraft have the best anti cheat on bedrock

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Even thought anti cheat sucks

safe hedge
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I think cubecraft should create replay mode not only for just catching cheaters but idk for maybe like looking at ur own gameplay

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Or make it easier to report evidence of people instead of having to create a passport account

marsh sun
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Yeah

broken folio
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😛

warm radish
silent sinew
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there cant be a level restriction for a public gamemode

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most players are casuals and they dont want to play till level 10, they just want to play

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and if they can't they will just leave

warm radish
# silent sinew no, that is still very bad

Maybe a report system that checks only for suspicious players, like if a player reports another player, then the system would focus and check if they're cheating or not

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It's far better than checking for every single player

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This is a solution for performance issues mentioned by OP when using more advanced anti cheat

true blaze
silent sinew
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people need to understand that this is a complex system

warm radish
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i am not saying it's easy to implement

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well but i guess "it isn't that easy"

true blaze
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It isn't.

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If it was that easy, they would've done it by now...

warm radish
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besides the logic between checking if the player is cheating or not