Community Species Suggestions

[feral cedar]

I did that a lot in JWE. The same water that pterosaurs eat fish from has a river that sustains an entire herd of hadrosaurs

[ancient ibex]

(And, well, Niger 10 million years later has stuff that can work as a proxy; Ourano for Istiorachis is already in, but Demandasaurus is one of Nigersaurus' closest relatives and it hails from the Barremian of Spain)

[left spear]

Inma be honest

It's irrelevant

Themed packs are fun but what matters are the animals

The only pack that imo should defenetly be themed is RE

Rest is optional

[feral cedar]

not to the dozens of people that suggest themed packs

[left spear]

Truth by consensus is the worst way to try win an argument

And besides it's not like the devs abide by the community's whishes for this kind of stuff

[polar tinsel]

I like themed packs, but I don't like when theme holds pack hostage. I think PZ is doing it well, they have themes, but animals can sometimes be very loosely connected to them

[plush nacelle]

The only strong examples I can think about is porcupine in arid pack and tree frog in SA

Everything else rather used to have at least decent connection

[polar tinsel]

I don't think they have any completely off theme animal, but there are picks that aren't traditionally associated with themes of the pack

Like Caracal and Striped Hyena in grasslands or
Rhino in Arid

Or how Eurasia pack is going for colder continental theme, but also chucks Sloth Bear and Tortoise in there

Again nothing too crazy, but I prefer it over uniformity of theme

[plush nacelle]

Thats more about people having weird idea about animals sometimes. In hyena and caracal case both are prime grasslands animals, but I am not sure why people thought both are desert specialists

Especially hyena, which sticks to areas near water and PZ subspecies on top of that being based on indian hyena

[polar tinsel]

Sure, it's just that I've seen complaints on PZ forums (minority of course) when animals don't 100% match vibe of the theme (specifically examples above), and I thought that I wouldn't like those type of theme consistency, that was proposed

[trail moth]

Yang, Mamenchi, Shuno, maybe Gigantspino? im trying to think of other animals that could be added in a jurassic china dlc

[ancient ibex]

Monolopho

Anchiornis

Most of Stegosauria is also from there

[plush nacelle]

Castorocauda anchiornis

[ancient ibex]

Was typing that

I'd rather have Heterodontosaurus before Tianyulong, but that one also hails from that biota

Darwinopterus for a pterosaur rep

[desert flame]

I hope there are vivarium mammals in the Jurassic China DLC.
Especially Repenomamus

[simple dawn]

Are DLC's confirmed?

[desert flame]

no
This is a DLC I came up with.

[ancient ibex]

Kinda, if launch is profitable

Intention would be both paid and free content being released

[plush nacelle]

In theory yes

Patreon mention DLC

[rigid spindle]

Depends on if the game is financially successful

If so, the first confirmed (?) dlc will be recently extinct animals

[flint sable]

one of the first one the devs would want to work on so basically

[low bridge]

Moas are Ultra Super needed

[rigid spindle]

If I remember correctly, the image thingy they had for the dlc included a moa

And those along with the dodo and thylacine are absolutely necessary for anything about recently extinct species

[low bridge]

Huayangosaurus better than Gigantspino

[polar tinsel]

How recent do you think they count for recently extinct? Would Elephant Bird qualify?

[slim flare]

Sure

[feral cedar]

wrong

Gigantspinosaurus has huge spines

It’s a cooler huayango the same way styraco is a cooler Centrosaurus

[low bridge]

Loxodonta Bird

[rigid spindle]

I think the cutoff is anything older than ~1000 years

Anything that went extinct after that is possible

[polar tinsel]

I was thinking something like that

In that case Elephant Bird just makes it

There's an opportunity for diverse picks of skin colors if they decide to include it

Spread across multiple species, or all just variants of the biggest one

More dull, brown variant, maybe more realistic

Prehistoric Planet "Cassowary" skin, which is my favorite, and I have actually seen it multiple times in books before the show, don't know if there's some background for that

And then maybe for sake of nostalgia, pale tan/white skin like in Zoo Tycoon 2

[slim flare]

Isn’t that just the female?

[polar tinsel]

Which one?

I haven't played ZT in a minute, I figured you were talking about it, but I don't remember dimorphism for E.Birds

[flint sable]

no both teh male and female are that color

I would agree with what Markiz said

a lighter one maybe inspired by ZT2, a brown one, and then a brighter one like a cassowary

[slim flare]

Yeah

I want the lesser elephant bird but probably couldn’t be an alt

[flint sable]

I mean maybe

if Juxia worked mullerornis probably would

orange vs pink is aepyornis maximus vs mullerornis

[prime ridge]

Yutyranus would be nice for cold biomes

[slim flare]

Does PK’s Psittacosaurus sp. have boreal?

[flint sable]

no

the only dinosaurs that do are pachyrhino (perotorum), leally, and ugru

[slim flare]

Then it wouldn’t get boreal

Truth nuke

[feral cedar]

I thought that was the truthnuke variant

[eager thunder]

You know I wasn’t aware that there was 3 Ceratosaurs

[uneven tapir]

ive looked at it, since i knew of only nasicornis and dentisulcatus, DUDE THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST 3, there is 6 of them, thats crazy

[eager thunder]

I didn’t see that on Wikipedia

[uneven tapir]

a lot of the other species of ceratosaurus are like debated on whether they actually are their own species, or just another species that was already described (such as nasicornis)

[slim flare]

dentisulcatus is usually interpreted as an adult nasicornis

Idk where magnicornis stands

[hardy rock]

I wanna see Hibbertopterus

[simple dawn]

And I want scampbapis

[alpine thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-omg-wtf-space-cat-サカバンバスピス-gif-5726176792554010768

I really want Hibber as well though.

Hibby is such a good viv pick.

[heavy scarab]

When it comes to Paleozoic animals not counting vivarium ones. Dimetrodon, Scutosaurus and Inostrancevia are ones we'd all like to see and throw in Cotylorhynchus for bonus points but another personal favorite of mine is Estemmenosuchus

[eager thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/cotylorhynchus-my-beloved-beloved-dinosaur-reptile-gif-22077496

[tardy whale]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-dawn-of-the-dinosaurs-ice-age-3-quetzalcoatlus-prehistoric-mesozoic-gif-2253812711187702270

[simple dawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/173172667623407616/1489062138428391547/makesweet-4hgppu.gif

one of these days Mau will reply to this

[shy vale]

also there's limusaurus for a noasaur representative

and for other pterosaur representatives, you have the tiaojishan anurognathids like jeholopterus

[heavy scarab]

I personally would've picked Masiakasaurus for a noasaur

[shell sonnet]

They're both awesome.

[desert flame]

Euparkeria as a Triassic vivarium reptile.

[burnt gate]

Albertosaurus

[harsh panther]

Soergelia (and the biggest spiece) for a New mammal genus for give a bit more of variety in mammals in-game Genus(Now I realize there are no prehistoric bovidae in-game ), and i recuently had an idea for a Easywr egg w them, When you change the default name to "Driving" It will become a special skin based on Asgore from Undertale/Deltarune

Thinking about bovidae Myotragus balearicus could be a cool adition to vivarium species, beeing basicly a little go of a size of a rabbit

[feral cedar]

Myotragus is actually fascinating because together with Nuralagus you see a lagomorph that got to grow on an island, and then a goat-like ungulate that shrunk on the same island, and they both got to roughly the same size iirc

Goldilocks zone ahh size

[harsh panther]

Yeahhhh

I also think if some day the devs add Pelodoxodon could be nice add to the Small species not only the big ones or the most famous from Paleoxodon

[feral cedar]

Palaeoloxodon*

FYI

[harsh panther]

Per example cypriotes or falconeri, animals that are maybe to big for vivarium but perfect size to make a little farm

[harsh panther]

Srry, HAHAHAHAHA

[plush nacelle]

While small falconeri is still giant compared to other vivarium species

[feral cedar]

I personally want P. falconeri and P. antiquus since falconeri is thought to have evolved from a population of antiquus that got stranded on an island

[harsh panther]

Imagine that you can build the tipical petit-zoo zone with that size animals like Palaeoxodon falconeri I think they could have a "cattle" role in the game, something like how I've seen quite a few people use Psstacosaurus in JWE3 as some type of Sheeps

[harsh panther]

I think i terms of Iconicity and popularity these two are great options

Now i got abother idea but is mor 4 a DlC, Imagine Dlcs more than Countries or continents, with content about specific Formations

Idk imagine a Dlc about "Las hoyas" with Concavenator and Pelecanimimus and iberomesornis, some small pterosaurs for the vivarium

I think is quite interesting not only bc Could give us Iconic animals but to make us know More about animals less populars to the general public, but that could be so interesting bc their peculiarities

When more i think about ir more i thnki about formations in these continents:
Oceania(Australia/New zeland)
Europe
África (subsaharian)
South America

Specially South America and Australia talking about mammalia and dinosauria(specially in south America!)

[peak hazel]

Titanohyrax so we can have John Mammal

[feral cedar]

Hyraxes are like going to the pet store and saying "I'd like one animal, please"

[peak hazel]

the login reward animal

[feral cedar]

the common enemy in an RPG

[peak hazel]

you ask a kid to draw "mammal" and thats what they draw

[flint sable]

the guy who looks incredibly basic and chill but is somehow best freinds with the final boss (if you know u know)

[harsh panther]

Now i got it, imagine a small penguin for semiaquiatic vivariums of the size of a rockhopper penguin xD

[peak hazel]

I do know

would be the 2nd Afrotherian if added now

[harsh panther]

Some type of extinc Marine bird(pelagornis per example) or just and extinc penguin

[flint sable]

like the great auk maybe?

good choice for a recently extinct DLC and would be vivarium sized

[feral cedar]

Hyraxes built like the Eocene mammals that survived the meteor

blueprint ass mammal

[peak hazel]

forgot to evolve

[harsh panther]

Yeah that idea rocks!

[feral cedar]

route 1 normal type ass mammal

[peak hazel]

first one you meet there as well

[harsh panther]

I was Thinking more about like some genus of Soth-american extinct penguin but the recent extinc spieces is a cool idea too!!!

[flint sable]

oh yeah that works too

[feral cedar]

"Youngster Timmy sent out a mammal!"

[harsh panther]

Thinkin about the direction this game have is more Educational, i Tbh think that could have sense

[peak hazel]

its the one creature in ark thats just
there

minecraft mob with no drops and no unique mechanics

[harsh panther]

And give a more ecological Perspective of what are we doing to our World to the earth to gaia

[feral cedar]

coworker music of mammals

[peak hazel]

I'm out of ways of calling it generic

[feral cedar]

same ngl

[rigid spindle]

Brotosynthesis is built like an unseasoned chicken

More unoriginal than those rainbow dog wolf angel ocs

More common than a video game-esque leveling mechanic in an isekai anime

[polar tinsel]

Didn't want to bloat main thread more with discussion meant for this one, but I want to follow up how goated pick would Homotherium be

Not only would we get sabre tooth cat for three more continents

But there's also bunch of coat variations already established in paleoart communities

Plus Brown mummy

[harsh panther]

Yepp

[peak hazel]

do we have cave paintings of it?

[polar tinsel]

Maybe this figurine

[peak hazel]

even if we don't theres still a lot of very good colour options

[harsh panther]

Now i notice we dint have hippos xD

[polar tinsel]

I'm absolutely in love with Prehistoric Planet grey spotted skin

[harsh panther]

WOAH I UNDERSTAND YOU PAL

[polar tinsel]

One of Dwarf Hippo species would be cool, or something physically similar like Metamynodon

[harsh panther]

But i think could be more conveniente for the game the species form europe or Asia or maybe africa if there some in there

[harsh panther]

Yeaaa :DD

[harsh panther]

In terms of Homotherium

[peak hazel]

H. gorgops would also be nice

[polar tinsel]

Absolutely, old world coverage is why I need it in first place

[harsh panther]

Homotherium latidens

I would love Latidens

[polar tinsel]

But if they ever bring it in game, I can see them bringing all (?) subspecies in as variants

Latidens, Serum and the one from Africa

[harsh panther]

I only Know the one from africa thanks to a Monkey game (Antecesor Humakind Odyssey)

[polar tinsel]

I only very recently discovered that they were in Africa, thanks to Prehistoric Planet

[harsh panther]

Ohh that's xool

Cool*

Dinofelis wold be a good ad to game if homotherium is aded too?

I think both are very similar

[peak hazel]

in the same sort of vein some extinct species of Crocodylus could be cool

but theres other Pseudosuchians I'd prioritise

[polar tinsel]

Oh you could make a whole pack for crocodilians without stretching it

[harsh panther]

A dlc about Prehistoric hominids (like Australopitecus) saw on their days in subsaharian Africa

[peak hazel]

sure

not actual hominids obviously

[harsh panther]

Obv

because otherwise it would be slavery

To literally evolutive grampa

[harsh panther]

I dont see actually a lots of representation of these ecosistem

But i found it very interesing

[peak hazel]

you have the wwb episode I guess

Deinotherium and Dinofelis

I'm whatever on Dinofelis

however

[harsh panther]

Same happends with Atapuerca in spain in terms of not hominidae, animals like: rhinos elephants Big cats hyenas

[harsh panther]

HAHAHA

[peak hazel]

the Mastodon would also be good for elephants

Columbian mammoth as well

maybe the straight tusked elephant

[harsh panther]

Something like this the called "spanish serengueti"

(Is actually paleoart about the site)

[harsh panther]

Hey is a very cool option

[polar tinsel]

Apparently all three of those where at least considered by devs at some point

All three would be fantastic, plus stuff like Deinotherium, Platybelodon, Moreitherium, Cuvieronius...you can make proboscidean pack

[slim flare]

My top pick is mastodon with Notiomastodon alt

I guess you could do both mastodon species

[polar tinsel]

Oh Notiomastodon alt absolutely, to get that SA coverage

[slim flare]

SA really needs
Megatherium
Doedicurus
Macrauchenia
Toxodon

Glyptodon and another SA ground sloth would also be nice, probably Mylodon

Hippidion will likely never come

Warrah would be nice tho

Dire wolves are kinda South American, and of course the Notiomastodon alt of mastodon

[low bridge]

Purrusaurus, Stupendemys

[slim flare]

I meant Late Pleistocene

[low bridge]

Maybe Mixotoxodon

• Doed

[polar tinsel]

We can expect Megatherium and Doedicurus

Now Mau said three mammals rhe other day

So I'm not sure if that's confirmation that those two won't have variants

And if they're doing Mastodon, Notio should be easy drive by

For other stuff fingers crossed

Maybe Macrauchenia has biggest chances of those never hinted, it was previously in ZT and WP2, and im WWB and most recently in Prehistoric Planet

They could also be fun to design with trunk and trunkless variantz

[plush nacelle]

From animation standpoint you can really only pick one

[polar tinsel]

Hmm true, I had Deinocheirus and Elasmotherium and their variants in mind, but I guess you don't need separate animations for horns and feathers

[slim flare]

I’ll believe it when officially announced, but yeah

[polar tinsel]

Of course

[slim flare]

Well duh, Megatherium, Doedicurus and Ambelu

[polar tinsel]

Yeah, I was just wondering whether he counts variants as separate picks

[flint sable]

probably

I kinda doubt either would get alts

[polar tinsel]

That's how I understood it

[plush nacelle]

I wonder what does it mean for one of the insectivore species

Pulmonoscorpius stocks rise?

[slim flare]

I assume U19 is

3 Carnivores:
Carnotaurus
Utahraptor
Kelenken

7 Herbivores:
Megatherium
Doedicurus
Edmontonia + alt
2 vivi herbis
Arthropleura

2 Insectivores:
Meganeura
Pulmonoscorpius

[amber field]

Isn't edmontonia scrapped?

[hollow flower]

No that was Sauropelta

And I would not bet on those removed creatures never being added

[slim flare]

I hope all the original EA species return

[plush nacelle]

Red deinonychus

Will come back

[slim flare]

Previously EA:

Theropoda:
Yutyrannus
Guanlong
Carnotaurus
Ceratosaurus
Sauropodomorpha:
Diplodocus
Thyreophora:
Edmontonia
Dacentrurus/Miragaia
Marginocephalia:
Prenocephale

Ferae:
Hyaenodon
Euungulata:
Bos
Daeodon
Xenarthra:
Megatherium

[plush nacelle]

Guanlong is curious case to me, because I recall something about fifth species cut from EA

[low bridge]

If not Guanlong then Yutyrannus

[plush nacelle]

Which would kinda explain lack of guanlong presence in first post EA roadmap

Buddy got send to shadow realm without much explaination

[slim flare]

I just think that one wasn’t complete

Guanlong is very unique and fits a good size range as a small Tyrannosaur

[plush nacelle]

I dont think so. It featured only reshuffled species and stuff like ornithomimus, which would easily use existing rigs - perfect for free update

[peak hazel]

would like to see all of these guys in the game at some point

[sharp sable]

Wdym previously

[slim flare]

In the before-times

[sharp sable]

What times

Isnt now the only ea

[plush nacelle]

Its fun to imagine this list was supposed to be bigger, but at the same time it makes perfect sense to not reveal anything DLC related. Just what would you put in base game

[slim flare]

There was an EA species list post-Kickstarter that was scrapped no real explained reason

[sharp sable]

Ooh

Ok

Thought u might be talking about Demo

[slim flare]

No

[sharp sable]

Ok

[slim flare]

There’s also the Kickstarter species list

[sharp sable]

Gimme

[slim flare]

Which has like 8 other cut species

[sharp sable]

Gimme Gimme

[slim flare]

Previously Post-Kickstarter:

Theropoda:
Deinonychus
Nothronychus
Yangchuanosaurus
Thyreophora:
Sauropelta
Ornithopoda:
Tenontosaurus
Other Ornithischia:
Thescelosaurus

[plush nacelle]

Where do we put deinon

Technically devs said it is going to back post EA

At least when Utah was revealed

[slim flare]

I meant post-Kickstarter

Which then transitioned to the first EA list

And now were on the true EA list

[fresh ember]

That was Yangchuanosaurus in favor of Carnotaurus.

[plush nacelle]

I read some old comment and remember it now

There used to be 4 replacements we all know about, but then mau revealed one additional species is going to be replaced

[buoyant zephyr]

I would like to think these will be in base game

Eventually

As well the rest of the original 50 list

[plush nacelle]

Which is probably why my memory was incomplete, because it was included at one point on wiki, but then mau changed roster again to current version and so wiki changed

[buoyant zephyr]

And the base Cenozoic and Mesozoic would be very complete until other updated and DLC imo (not counting aquatics and fliers)

[feral cedar]

Deinonychus being replaced has become a paleomeme in its own way at this point

[buoyant zephyr]

So they would have the opportunity to elaborate on the Paleozoic roster

[plush nacelle]

I am completely sure guanlong got off screened lmao

[feral cedar]

By Velociraptor in JP, by Atrociraptor in Dominion, and by Utahraptor in Prehistoric Kingdom

Won’t somebody give the face of the “Wait, dinosaurs are cool!” movement the respect it deserves?

[plush nacelle]

At least nothronychus have decent chance at being resurrected as therizinosaurus alt, cause why not

[buoyant zephyr]

Deinonychus hasnt got any appearence in major media since the 90's right? Aside from docus and games

Velociraptor literally stole it's flow lmao

[slim flare]

I will continue to fight for Deinonychus in PK

[plush nacelle]

Didnt it mauled acrocanthosaurus at some point?

[feral cedar]

And then JWE made it hideous

[plush nacelle]

Right. It gets some spotlight, but usually in dogshit media like LOOP, Jurassic Fight Club or Monsters Resurrected

[buoyant zephyr]

And games

At least a few popular ones

[feral cedar]

I’m excited for Dinosauria. It’ll have BOTH Velociraptor and Deinonychus

[buoyant zephyr]

Where?

[feral cedar]

Season two

There’s an episode dedicated to Protoceratops and Velociraptor and one dedicated to Acrocanthosaurus and Sauroposeidon. The latter has dromaeosaurs in the background and those can only be Deinon

Just got to wait until both come out

[plush nacelle]

I am sure it is confirmed straight up

[hollow flower]

I do wonder if he will ever make a triassic episode

[feral cedar]

I don’t like the beak-colored mouth but it’s very peak otherwise

[shy vale]

i think adasaurus gets shafted even more than deinonychus

even prehistoric planet shafted it

[feral cedar]

Adasaurus doesn't have that much prominence but yeah jumping through a thousand hoops to justify having Velociraptor in PHP instead of just using the almost identical species we DO have from Nemegt felt almost disrespectful

[shy vale]

adasaurus was bigger and more robust though but the point still stands

[feral cedar]

But it's also important to have media that says "Velociraptor" and shows you a feathery stem-bird looking fella about as large as a turkey

It's a good way to "fight" the JP stereotype

[shy vale]

could've gone with luanchuanraptor then

[coarse inlet]

I mean it's not jumping through a thousand hoops to include an animal that's possibly from the same time and region, especially since it's HUGE to portray Velociraptor specifically in a scientifically informed way.

[feral cedar]

I agree it's good to portray an accurate dromaeosaur and have Attenborough specifically call it Velociraptor

[shy vale]

but that's not maastrichtian

[shy vale]

also regarding mastodons and notiomastodon, isn't notiomastodon a gomphothere?

[polar tinsel]

Does that matter for variants if it looks close enough?

[simple dawn]

Cotylorhynchus

[coarse inlet]

unless it is

Nemegt basin straigraphy is a MESS

[shy vale]

and nanxiong is even more so

[simple dawn]

year 5 of asking for cotylorhynchus be like

[short rover]

I actually do think we’ll get it one day

It’s a neat creature

[simple dawn]

cotylorhynchus

[left spear]

suhcnyhrolytoc

[low bridge]

Ginger Diprotodon

[left spear]

Really well thought out expanion

[simple dawn]

fucking powerpoint presentation ass LMAO

[left spear]

Only "bad" choice is Equus since it's confirmed for RE dlc

[simple dawn]

I cant shit on him thats actually really well made

[low bridge]

Resident Evil? This is joke

[rigid spindle]

RE stands for Recently Extinct

[simple dawn]

I would like a platybelodon tho

[low bridge]

I know dude

[rigid spindle]

Oh

[low bridge]

I would like a Pachycephalosaurus

[short rover]

It’s coming next update

[low bridge]

Pachycephalosaurus looks Insanely Super even on C.A

U17 will break game like previous updates did before

👀

[polar tinsel]

Good call

[low bridge]

We have Megaloceros and we are happy with it

Dear Deer

[polar tinsel]

Are the silhouettes from that RE screenshot confirmed to be in?

[simple dawn]

Although I would like Hagermans horse or some other species of extinct horse like Occidentalis or Scotti over ferus

Hagermans horse technically isnt a horse I dont think

[polar tinsel]

Hippidion perhaps?

[polar tinsel]

Wait, I included ginger Dipro coat already, I rescind good call

[left spear]

Eh that image doesn't matter much, it's non-binding concept art from +8 years ago

But Both Quagga and "Wild Horse" have been confirmed by Mau

[polar tinsel]

Oh I see

[left spear]

Now granted it's been here on chat so not exactly official but so far Mau hasn't outright lied to what species are getting added after mentioning by them

[polar tinsel]

Glad that we're getting the horse then, it slots just right with other steppe animals, I hope they cover their many coat variants

[left spear]

Also this could technically not be E. ferus but i just don't really see It being anything else

[polar tinsel]

If it's recently extinct then it gotta be

Gotta hand it to them, not many other games in this genre would bother with "boring" animals like horses and bisons (and Cave bears to some extent) when there's so many prehsitoric animals to chose from. But including them completes the ecosystem and allows for complete themed sections in zoos 👌

[low bridge]

Prolibytherium is interesting

Or Titanotylopus

[polar tinsel]

Absolutely

Zoo Tycoon nostalgia

[peak hazel]

are you an evil resident ez?

[low bridge]

I like Dying Light for Story i never played RE dude 👀😶

[peak hazel]

missing out

[low bridge]

Allos would be peak

In U17

[amber field]

I think DC is good start for dinosaurs lovers

[silver steeple]

*will

[low bridge]

Saurolophus should work in game

[low bridge]

Something that isn't much recognized

[amber field]

Yeah we need a hadrosaurs adapted to arid environment

[low bridge]

Barsboldia also interesting pick too

Cenozoic in game is mostly Ice Age megafauna but other epochs of Cenozoic also had crazy and completely insane creatures and mammals really really Nice Dudes

🤩

[amber field]

Yeah , We need more of warm epochs from the cenozoic

[low bridge]

Miocene SA was Gigantic lake with Huge Reptiles like Purrusaurus or Stupendemys

Megawetlands literally

😳

Game is great but always can be greater

[amber field]

Yeah lol

[low bridge]

We don't have solid Miocene creatures in Prehistoric Kingdom

Dinocrocuta should work

Hyaenodon too

[amber field]

Perhaps hyaenodon and a hell pig

[low bridge]

Daeodon

Imagine Stupendemys in the smallest vivarium

Lol

[amber field]

Quite large

[low bridge]

Big Turtle

[amber field]

Even the biggest vivarium can't handle it

[low bridge]

Stupendemys is Massive

3 meter carapace

Beast of Turtle

Turtle King

Lol

[feral cedar]

holy high effort suggestions

https://tenor.com/view/jack-black-opening-book-opening-box-jack-black-gif-2965523361044713223

[dull prism]

This is great

I saw something about Paleoloxodon and mastodon being brought in post EA but I think that was from the old list

Notiomastodon being an alt genera for mastodon is peak tho

I think everything in that dlc is great

Even if it is a bit smaller if it ever came due to some being given as free update species

It has a lot of variety too

[polar tinsel]

Thanks

I remember Paleoloxodon on the old list, hope it's still on the radar

I have no idea how many animals they plan for their DLCs

So I guessed 10, because that recent extinction dlc Pic has 10 animals

[slow shoal]

top 15 dinosaurs and cenozoics atm

didnt include anything that seems to be in the pipeline already

also the greyed out names are alts

[rigid spindle]

What is this list from?

[slow shoal]

its my list i made lol

[rigid spindle]

I see

[slow shoal]

gonna do vivariums and paleozoic next

[short rover]

Adding borealopelta when edmontonia seems to be coming in U19 is something I unfortunately cannot stand behind

Nor is the choice of torosaurus over pentaceratops

[feral cedar]

smh

Torosaurus being the top requested chasmosaurine is a war crime

[flint sable]

I really like the mammal choices tho

pretty goated if you ask me

[short rover]

They’re pretty good

I’d slot in diprotodon and barinasuchus somewhere

Personally

Other than that I can’t really complain

They’re solid

The dinosaur choices tho…imo they’re a bit disappointing

At least I would be if this is the 15 we get post launch

Boreal, nano, spico, sucho, and Toro are the only ones I dislike actually

After taking a second look

[slow shoal]

tbh these are just personal picks and not genuine guesses

[short rover]

I understand

[slow shoal]

dinosaurs are honestly more dificult to narrow down and prolly would change after a bit lol

[short rover]

I’d have to have amarga, cerato, id want a small pachy like preno, id probably want udano if we were to get another ceratopsian

And personally I’d want a paranky

[slow shoal]

somehow totally forgot about cerato lol

[short rover]

Not too attached to which one but I like antarctopelta cuz it’s larger and it being from Antarctica is cool

So that’s what I’d probably replace the 5 I don’t like with

[slow shoal]

may just expand the list to 20 tbh

also why dont you like spicomellus or sucho

also im open to suggestions cause somehow genuinely blanking

[short rover]

Spico is a cool animal, I’d just prefer Gastonia/pola, sauropelta, or a paranky over it personally

And sucho is a good dlc animal imo in that it’s well known but I feel like it would make the base game roster a bit spinosaur heavy for my taste

But it seems the devs are thinking abt adding it post launch anyways so

[simple dawn]

BAD

BAD

COTYLORHYNCHUS NOT MENTIONED

[slow shoal]

well no its not a dinosaur nor cenozoic

[short rover]

As for suggestions…the ones I gave would be some, guanlong I’d probably add as another small theropod maybe, silesaurus for a nasal ornithischian, pelecanimimus and conca are both good picks, miragaia/dacentrurus, kentrosaurus, a mamenchi alt complex, yang, and def a troodontid (Stenonychosaurus/saurornithoides for me)

I probably wouldn’t add all of these together

I’d pick through them and see which ones balance the best with the current roster in mind

But they’re ideas on what I would be looking for

[slow shoal]

will figure out the rest later, but here is the updated cenozoics

[flint sable]

me likey

[short rover]

Looks good

[slow shoal]

updated dinosaur list

[slim flare]

Troodon

[left spear]

No Barina 💔

[slow shoal]

I added it to the updated list

[slow shoal]

Only cause the Alaska species doesn't have a name

[slim flare]

Why do you even want it?

[slow shoal]

i think its neat and fills prince creek out a little more

[slim flare]

Its neat how

It’s predominantly teeth

Apparently a braincase has been reported

[shy vale]

anyway, for ice age dlc idea, i would've added toxodon with mixotoxodon alt

[shy vale]

why anzu over another caenagnathid like gigantoraptor?
also i don't think maip would work as an alt for megaraptor

[slow shoal]

maip would def work

and i just like anzu more personally

[shy vale]

i see then

[flint sable]

I mean it probaly would IMO

no more different than like, juxia or paraceratherium in size differences

[slow shoal]

its at most like tarbo and rex

[flint sable]

also pretty much all megaraptorans lean on eachother in terms of reconstructions, we barely have a composite skeleton of the clade as a whole put together

[slow shoal]

maip is a bit more robust but both are very similar cause megaraptorids being fragmentary moment

[shy vale]

also i don't really get why torosaurus for another ceratopsid?

[slow shoal]

cause torosaurus is cool 😎

[flint sable]

that I also dont get

If I had to pick another ceratopsian it would probably be Leptoceratops or Udanoceratops

[shy vale]

i would've have put a parankylosaur and at least 1 noasaur

[slow shoal]

Masiakasaurus is there

[shy vale]

fair enough

[flint sable]

but I think that genuinely I would be fine if we didnt get a single nother ceratopsian in the rest of the games life cycle

[slow shoal]

also I feel toro always gets the short end of the stick

[flint sable]

and thats like the only clade I feel that way about honestly

[shy vale]

but i would've added one of the elaphrosaurine noasaurs, like limusaurus or elaphrosaurus

[slow shoal]

like its also one of the largest ceratopsians and yet never shows up in anything anymore

[flint sable]

like even rhinos or ornithopods we could get a few more I think, but I dont feel that way with ceratopsians

[slow shoal]

well elaphrosaurines arent very normal lol

[shy vale]

amargasaurus should get bajadasaurus alt

[slow shoal]

limusaurus would be my pick for one of the elaphrosaurines but they are just really wacky

[shy vale]

fair enough

i would've done limusaurus as part of a jurassic china/shishugou pack though

i do agree when it comes to adding ceratopsians, that something like leptoceratops would be a good idea

[flint sable]

I also dont know how viable their ontogeny would be to display ingame

[slim flare]

Imagine no Kentrosaurus

[flint sable]

since uh

kinda funny ontogeny

[shy vale]

but the ontogeny is what makes them interesting

[flint sable]

and thats also one of the most notable things that Limusaurus has so if you couldnt include that

why bother

[slim flare]

No Guanlong either smh

[slow shoal]

Masiakasaurus just feels like the noasaurid imo

[slim flare]

Or Tenontosaurus

[slow shoal]

erm they said tenonto is never coming back 🤓

also again this isnt like a comprehensive list its just some species id like a lot

[slim flare]

Known liars

[flint sable]

mau only started lying after the roadmap trust

he learned his lesson

and from now on everything he says is 100% lies

[alpine thicket]

I mean Torosaurus and Lepto or Udano are like
totally different
they're not really taking up the same choice real estate honestly.

[slow shoal]

erm actually stygimoloch is coming so no lie detected

[slim flare]

You mean Pachycephalosaurus spinifer?

Never heard of Stygimoloch

Sounds junior-synonym coded

[alpine thicket]

I do kinda wish they'd go with Stygi for the name but which one you use is entirely subjective so like it doesn't matter a lot.

[slim flare]

I prefer Pachycephalosaurus

It definitely seems like it’s going to be what people will use in the future

[shy vale]

it's like with "megalania"

[slim flare]

Uh, no

It’s not at all

[flint sable]

as of now its not

but if somehow its somehow found to be 100% conclusively within pachycephalosaurus and not its own genus (very unlikely to occur mind you, idk how that would even be proven since they as sister taxa reguardless), then I could see that maybe occuring

but as of now its equally taxonomically/scientifically acceptable to say either p. spinifer or s. spinifer

[left spear]

I prefer d. spinifer

same with d. wyomingensis

[flint sable]

I mean

on the nursery screen they do

but then again so does megaloceros and smilodon

so my argument isnt exactly the strongest

[flint sable]

but still this is my opinion on ceratopsians

only clade ingame I currently feel that way about

[alpine thicket]

Yeah, but in terms of like
Torosaurus and Leptoceratops for example are so wildly different it's not really like you're filling in the same real estate with them.
Also big disagree there because at the very least non-ceratopsid ceratopsians are way different from ceratopsids overall.

Also they make good DLC fodder in general.

[flint sable]

I would say at the very least like

no derrived ones with horns

like protoceratops or pssitacosaurus stuff would be cool, leptoceratopsids ect

but even then I feel that psitaco and proto are enough

idk im also a mammal person

but still idk

[flint sable]

especially cause we got 3 species

[peak hazel]

No Gorgo alt for Alberto?

[mint creek]

I find your lack of Deinotherium disturbing

[plain knoll]

Cave hyena?

American zebra

[slow shoal]

People really aren't checking the updated list

Tf is an American zebra lol. If you mean wild horses those are pmuch confirmed for recently extinct dlc

[mint creek]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-darth-vader-as-you-wish-a-new-hope-gif-23890832

[slow shoal]

Also cave hyena is just an extinct subspecies and is fairly boring all things considered

[plush nacelle]

Alright. Few nitpicks, mostly alt related

[slim flare]

What?

[plain knoll]

Bruh

HAGERMAN HORSE

[slim flare]

Why would you want that?

[slow shoal]

I've never heard anyone call it that

[slim flare]

Hippidion or a basal small equid would be far better

[plain knoll]

Anyways I need a typa horse in the game

[slim flare]

Already confirmed

Wild horse and quagga, RE DLC

[plush nacelle]

1. Amphicyon major and ingens look vastly different when you look them. I guess this is simple case of cenozoic paleontology with lumping everything
2. Dwarf and big paleoloxodon sounds like nice concept on paper, but in reality to get this small it undergo ridiculous proportion changes. Not only it is at least 50% longer, but also has reversed limb proportion with hindlimbs being unusually for elephant longer than forelimbs effectively making it look lowkey like mastodon.
3. This is just small observation, but by some standards regarding reptile size found in this community island dwarfs from meiolania genus might be to small for exhibit system. Ideally you would want big member of family like ninjemys alongside small alt

[short rover]

Big and neat habitat variety

[short rover]

It’s actually not a subspecies but it’s not exactly high on my wanted list either

They’re like 2 million year diverged from spotted hyenas iirc

[slim flare]

Me when I lie

[smoky spear]

they look like modern hyena with paler furs in pretty much every illustration

[peak hazel]

always thought the cave hyena was its own species

not a subspecies

[low bridge]

2 extra species of Arctotherium are not that much needed only 1 is fine, instead of 2 extra Arctotheriums Agriotherium and Arctodus should work well

[low bridge]

Arsinoitherium boi is missing but list is solid and pretty good

Sivatherium is Ultra Cool mammal

[low bridge]

Propaleotherium??? Dude

[left spear]

Honestly to me any of the dog tiny Horses will do

I'd just prefer the one that lived in Messel

Oh wait that's propa

Then yeah it'd be nice to have

And cohabitation with Gastornis would be fun

[low bridge]

Cenozoic has so much great mammals, other stuff to pick for game

[eager thunder]

I have returned to ask kindly for prolibytherium

[wary nacelle]

Megalochelys because for no reason but really because it's a giant tortoise and that would be fun to make a habitat for

[plain knoll]

Dakosaurus & Dolichorhynchops also would be neat

[simple dawn]

I have returned to not so kindly beg for cotylorhynchus

[plain knoll]

My PTEROSAUR list

Pteranodon + P. sternbergi
Nyctosaurus
Dsungaripterus
Zhenyuanopterus
Quetzalcoatlus + Q.lawsoni or indernodrakon
Tropeognathus
Tupandactylus + T.navigans + Tapejara
Guidraco

Possible vivarium pterosaurs

Rhamphorhynchus
Anuroganthus
Pterodaustro
Kunpengopterus
Dimorphodon

[eager thunder]

I really like this thing

What is this thing

[plain knoll]

Meiolania🍃

[eager thunder]

I like me that there Meiolania

[plain knoll]

Wait you don't know that thing before?

[eager thunder]

Im going to be so honest

My best knowledge is on the Mesozoic

I’m not as knowledgeable about Cenozoic stuffs

Mesozoic and Paleozoic

I think I’ve seen a very stylized meiolania before in a zt2 mod or something

[plain knoll]

Ow I see

[eager thunder]

Frankly I ought to try and be knowledgeable on the Cenozoic
Fascinating times and all

[cosmic cosmos]

rhamph and ptero are too big for vivs

[plain knoll]

We can place them in larger boxes

[feral cedar]

I genuinely don't understand why so many people resist full exhibit Rhamph

Take for instance, Eoraptor. People suggest it for vivariums because of how it appears in size charts, but then in most cases someone says our specimen is not fully grown and judging based on other basal sauropodomorphs it's probably somewhere around the same length as Velociraptor, thus making it large enough to be a full exhibit animal

And then the Eoraptor suggester goes "Oh, cool!" and that's that

But then when someone says Rhamphorhynchus is too big for vivariums there's almost always a "They can fit in the largest boxes"

[flint sable]

it might be that most people would rather have them come "handicapped" in the vivariums rather than not come at all

idk if thats how I feel but thats just my guess

[cosmic cosmos]

but they will still suggest other pterosaurs to be free roaming

[flint sable]

since, currently, that is our best bet for pterosaurs

[flint sable]

yeah thats the part I dont really get either

idk

[feral cedar]

I mean if you suggest Rhamph alongside a bunch of very much NOT vivarium-sized pterosaurs, then your suggestion is being made under the assumption that PK would get pterosaurs eventually. There's ZERO issue with "promoting" Rhamphorhynchus to a full-exhibit animal with in-depth behavior, three skins, and proper interactions

It's weird

[alpine thicket]

I mean
I don't get the idea of suggesting pterosaurs too big for vivs as vivarium animals unless we actually get confirmation we won't get any kind of larger aviary personally.

[feral cedar]

Dimorphodon, Pterodactylus, and [insert any anurognathid] are the only proper vivarium-sized pterosaurs, IMO

[alpine thicket]

Currently they want to do it and have an at least okay chance of possibly doing it, even if we won't know for a while for sure so.

[plain knoll]

Kunpengopterus?

[dull aurora]

Put bro in the vivarium or habitat right now👀👀

[left spear]

Could be habitat tbh

[sharp dock]

Habitat fr

[mint creek]

habitat 100%

[plain knoll]

DODO

[amber field]

Baby dodo

I sure it will be like that 👆

[dull aurora]

we need the dodo

[simple dawn]

w mention of the little abt

bat*

[plush nacelle]

Honestly it is up to devs and whether they want to make it full exhibit

Animal itself would be probably one rig and done type deal cause nothing else would reliably use it aside smaller vivarium pterosaurs

So I absolutely can see scenario, in which it ends up in vivarium as that one smaller species or smaller take on it like in tiktaalik case, mostly because from developement standpoint it would be more convinient for it to share vivarium set up alongside other sprawling stance jurassic pteros

You know, budget management and stuff like this

[quartz estuary]

What do you think about the Tyrannosaurus mcraeensis? A new species that has been discovered this year. It could be a decent Tyrannosaurus alternative, couldn't it?

T. regina and T. imperator may have been out of the window and considered invalid (since I first thought we officially have 4 Tyrannosaurus species today).

I mean, I think we have enough species alternatives, we probably don't need many of them

[proper raven]

I cant really see much niche T. McDonalds can fill since there is already Tarbo

Like only difference is that its found in older deposits and more south

The other two Tyrannosaurus species' traits are boiled down to individual variation and GSP having a moment

[shy vale]

i would prefer zhuchengtyrannus

[low bridge]

Lytronax

Gorgosaurus

Albertosaurus

[slim flare]

Tyrannosaurus mcraeensis was discovered in 1983 and named in 2024

But regardless, it’s completely unnecessary as an addition. It offers nothing.

[left spear]

LYTHRONAX MENTION RAHHHH

Yes i know it's a nothingburger

No i dont care

[slim flare]

Also T. mcraeensis may be a junior synonym anyway

[low bridge]

Thanatostheries would be Fit

[ancient ibex]

That's comparable to suggesting Daspletosaurus instead of Tyrannosaurus tho; Darwinopterus is just right there

[peak hazel]

I would like Daspletosaurus

[ancient ibex]

Anyway, for additional tyrannosaurids, I believe Albertosaurines, Alioramins and Daspletosaurins, in that order, are the more deserving

[peak hazel]

Alioramus with a Qianzhou alt?

[ancient ibex]

We already have great Tyrannosaurin rep

[plush nacelle]

What. Kunpengopterus is crazy good addition

[peak hazel]

isn't that the one thats sometimes called Monkeydactyl

[plush nacelle]

Yes

It really lived up to this name. By one study (not sure whether description one) it could perform hanging and swinging behaviours

[mint creek]

Daspleto would be cool

[feral cedar]

Does Darwinopterus have the opposable thumb?

[rigid spindle]

Kunpengopterus is one of my favorite pterosaurs

Such crude remarks shall not be tolerated

[ancient ibex]

I don't think the key for Wukongpterid rep rests on "this one we understand it had an opposable thumb" ngl

Fairly similar at the end of the day

[hollow flower]

Id rather kunpeng than Darwinopterus personally

[plush nacelle]

Since neither are housesehold names people will naturally lean towards more interesting one

[peak hazel]

I learnt about Darwinopterus first

but I don't know if thats generally how it is

[plush nacelle]

Not sure when you did, but could be because kunpengopterus species with thumb is fairly recent discovery

[peak hazel]

would've been during the 2010s

and I think the thumbed species was 2020s?

[plush nacelle]

Yup

[alpine thicket]

Daspleto is a good down the line DLC species, would get interest. Maybe in a tyrannosaur-based pack including both tyrannosaurids and tyrannosauroids, since there'd be some really good options for that.

Albertosaurines and Alioramins first though.

[low bridge]

Guanlong

Yutyrannus

Nanotyrannus

[mint creek]

Hell yeah

But add Alberto

[peak hazel]

Alberto/Gorgo as alts

[amber field]

I hope they add in post EA

[low bridge]

Only Carcharodontosaurids that are worth putting them into game are Giganotosaurus/ Tyrannotitan/ Mapusaurus/ Concavenator

"Tyrant Titan" sounds powerfull really Nice Dudes

[low bridge]

Albert the Albertosaurus and George the Gorgosaurus

Loll

[coarse inlet]

Neovenator

[mint creek]

I desire the Conc

[alpine thicket]

Conc is the most worthwhile additional Carc to add, Giga makes for good DLC fodder though.

[low bridge]

Mr Premium Cheese, do You desire Rajasaurus and Maip Macrothorax too?? 😃

[peak hazel]

whats the link here

[mint creek]

Maip would be sick but I'm not sold on Rajasaurus. I think Majungasaurus would be the best choice for a second abelisaur (after Carno).

[flint sable]

t. mcdonalds...

[simple dawn]

Tyrannosaurus Alaskeinesis

the tru feathered tyrannosaurus

[burnt gate]

ALBERTOSAURUS IS ON TEH TOP OF THE LSIT

YES

YES

[slow shoal]

well yes its alphabetical

[flint sable]

its alphabetical

[burnt gate]

I DONT CARE

ALBERTOSAURUS

ITS ON THE TOP

[slow shoal]

if it ever comes i do think a gorgo alt would be neat

[burnt gate]

yea

and maybe a daspleto alt one but idk how hard that would be

[alpine thicket]

Daspleto isn't that similar to Alberto.

They'd need to be separate.

Alberto/Gorgo is the way to go.

[burnt gate]

ok

[alpine thicket]

Like I said earlier, Daspleto packed with a few other tyrannosaurs would make a pretty good DLC though!

[simple dawn]

why is carno not mentioned

[slow shoal]

cause carno is confirmed

[simple dawn]

nvm

yeah

no

wait

it is?

wasnt utahraptor hinted at

partially confirmed ig

[alpine thicket]

Carnotaurus was joked about but in a way that makes it like

pretty much guaranteed combined with the blur that looks exactly like it says "Carnotaurus" on the list.

[rigid spindle]

Nah, fully confirmed

They showed a bit of the concept art for it off

[alpine thicket]

partially confirmed since they only confirmed the arm
they're only adding Utahraptor's arms, not the rest of it.

[rigid spindle]

You're right

https://tenor.com/view/oh-of-course-drake-lil-yachty-laptop-confused-understand-gif-13325798991723423204

[simple dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-25740672

man

thatd be funny asf

[simple dawn]

makes sense tho

I long for the days of when I can watch as utahraptors arms kill a trike

[rigid spindle]

Utahraptor arms solo all of PK

[simple dawn]

PLEASE

ADD UTAHRAPTORS ARMS

[slim flare]

That’s kinda funny ngl

[trail moth]

Daspleto + both species Nanotyrannus + Qianzhou with potentially an Alioramus alt?

[tidal flame]

Leptictidium could be an interesting little terrarium species

[alpine thicket]

Something like this, or possibly more basal ones since I actually think Alio could come sooner.

[low bridge]

I desire Diabloceratops, Terry the Therizinosaurus, Prenocephale, Chasmosaurus

For Herbivores

[low bridge]

Chalicotherium, Anisodon,Moropus, Ancylotherium would be Great in Prehistoric Kingdom

[heavy scarab]

Question if Centrosaurus were ever added could either Sinoceratops or Einiosaurus be good alternates?
Just curious.

[feral cedar]

Neither probably

Centro’s perfect alt spot is added as a 4th skin for Styracosaurus

[hot sable]

I agree with @feral cedar, but I would love to see Einiosaurus regardless

[cosmic cosmos]

theres a better c(k)entrosaurus to add anyway

[hot sable]

Also kosmoceratops PLEASEEEEE

my personal favorite ceratopsian

[cosmic cosmos]

im not interested in seeing any more centrosaurines until DLC honestly

our ceratopsid roster is essentially done already, just need chasmo or penta(or both) for the chasmosaurine side

[ancient ibex]

And non ceratopsids

[hot sable]

Fair

[ancient ibex]

Lepto+Udano, Yinlong

[cosmic cosmos]

oh yeah, keep getting ceratopsids and ceratopsians mixed up lol

[ancient ibex]

Once again pointing to my freezer lol

[left spear]

Freezer of utterly mystical paleontological knowledge

[ancient ibex]

Nah, of fish and veggies

[slim flare]

Uh Lystrosaurus

[left spear]

Nah

[eager thunder]

Vivarium or exhibit

Or both

[left spear]

Nah

[slim flare]

Exhibit

Don’t many species get rather large?

[left spear]

The larger species yeah

Large dog-sized

[eager thunder]

There are smaller ones too tho

I’m pretty sure even the biggest one would be one of the smaller exhibit animals

[slim flare]

We already have Diictodon as vivarium

[left spear]

The smallest species tho is like noticably bigger but still pretty similar to size to Diicto

[left spear]

Ehhhh

[slim flare]

Wikipedia says they get up to 8 feet long

[left spear]

Larger tha velo

[eager thunder]

I mean yeah

I guess in-between that and like, one of the big cats

[left spear]

This is oversized but still

They get deceptively big

To the point where it would be larger than any other viv except Titano

[eager thunder]

I’m not saying to put that in a viv

Maybe it’s smaller species

[left spear]

I dont see the devs making cross-viv genera tbh

[eager thunder]

I mean for a more extreme case there are huge size differences between dimetrodon species

https://external-preview.redd.it/size-variety-of-dimetrodon-species-v0-V37UspxftFw2SNrR3FL6UOJGC2VzzpNUPlJemk3YAA8.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=526bebc2d8472abf856b541261f62d33485ffbf5

[left spear]

Frankly i dont see them giving Dime an alt

It doesn't really "need" it

[eager thunder]

I’d be a funny visual but I know what you mean

[left spear]

Granted no animal needs them but Dime even less than average

[left spear]

Yeah that'd be true

[eager thunder]

The alts are definitely best for animals with dramatic changes between species and the size variation here definitely is that I’d say

[plush nacelle]

Wouldnt be surprised, if vivarium cause rig and animation set is already there

[cosmic cosmos]

Different formation/location is also a good reason to have an alt

[low bridge]

Hope for Kelenken to have Titanis Alt

[slim flare]

Why

[plush nacelle]

I Remember reading some thread on twitter about terror birds explaining kelenken would be quite different than titanis mostly in being way bulkier

And titanis it and phorushracos would be quite similar in being slender so maybe second chance after launch for both

[slim flare]

^

Kelenken is rather derived looking

[left spear]

Devincencia is the superior Kele alt either way

[slim flare]

Who

[left spear]

Biggest known phorusracid, found in a wetland which is weird for terror birds and shares formation with Argentavis and Thylacosmilus.

[mint creek]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-alerted-the-horse-alert-deinotherium-walking-with-beasts-walking-with-dinosaurs-gif-3023295637816768770

[plush nacelle]

Devincenzia is essentialy cooked

Very similar to kelenken and devs have no plan for alt

[limber needle]

ramph and pterodau are too pig for vivis

[left spear]

A man can dream

[low bridge]

I want Synthetoceras

I really want

[left spear]

Its neat filler

[low bridge]

Arsinoitherium is great mammal also

[feral cedar]

I mean it begs the question as to whether we even need terror bird alts

[left spear]

I think one would be nice

[vital grove]

alts no a second species perhaps

kelenken and phorusracos for example would be nice as there are visual differences in the beak shape kelenken being ridiculously long

[shy vale]

so muttaburrasaurus appearance would have to change?

[slender tangle]

Not immidiately

It's up to the discretion of the devs

[shy vale]

i see

[runic tiger]

Or not at all

(^most likely)

[alpine thicket]

i'll just pretend it's some other more normal-looking ornithischian
though new Mutta can look more normal if you do certain plausible things.

[river perch]

full respect to whatever ungodly weird critter muttaburra was irl, but i'm quite content with the game model i must say

[eager thunder]

Funky and fella

[limber night]

Sinopterus too!

[limber night]

i mean theres a way better reconstruction in #science-chat
much better than the lemon eye drops boiled chicken in the paper

[amber field]

You can 99% chance that it will not change

[limber night]

1% being charonosaurus, but hopefully we keep big nose boi

[amber field]

Yeah

[peak hazel]

now that we have an ontogeny system I highly doubt we'd see changes

[limber night]

Lagerpeton for vivariums…

[ancient ibex]

https://fxtwitter.com/AshleyPalaeo/status/2042503371220009192 People really looked at the restoration rather than at the skull anatomy work

Ashley Patch (@AshleyPalaeo)

"Muttaburrasurus lost all it's aura" sounds like a skill issue to me🤷

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Front of the skull isn't as similar to those of hadrosaur-line ornithopods as initially assumed, and done

[feral cedar]

To be fair, the restoration in the paper with its wrinkles and skin color with nothing else is certainly a choice

[ancient ibex]

lmao at people fixating on that as if it was the big change the redescription brought

[feral cedar]

Oh yeah that’s funny

I mean, I don’t think it’s good for people to fixate on that, but I’d be lying if I said it’s not ugly

[peak hazel]

its a terrible first impression for a new reconstruction

[ancient ibex]

I honestly shudder every time a new animal is described and Brian Engh is involved in the imaging

Man likes to make his dinosaurs unpleasant to the eye

[hot sable]

Okay now this looks a lot better. Idk why the paper made it look like a tumor

Like I could get behind this

[ancient ibex]

The work was done on the skull bones, skin color and texture wasn't really being worked on

[hot sable]

Yea, they really should’ve chosen a more presentable color scheme for the paper tho

[ancient ibex]

Still a weirdo with a narrower mouth that reconstructed since forever

[hot sable]

Yes agreed

Honestly it looks like a whole new genus to me. If I don’t know it was a mutts I would’ve assumed it was something else

[ancient ibex]

And lowkey Thescelosaurian

[feral cedar]

Maybe Muttaburrasaurus is the Priconodon of thescelosaurs

An aberrant mid Cretaceous giant, considerably larger than the second largest members that lived roughly at the tail end of the Cretaceous

[ancient ibex]

Eh, still consistent with Elasmarian stuff

[feral cedar]

It is, but it’d be funny

But yeah, an elasmarian is now understood to look like an elasmarian. Good

[slender tangle]

Giga-elasmarian

Titanocursor

[shy vale]

isn't there macrogryphosaurus?

[slender tangle]

Yeah
But Mutta is bigger iirc

Though maybe not by much

[desert flame]

If Mastodon is going to be added to PK in the future, I hope it's the American Mastodon.

[river perch]

Agreed

My thoughts aren’t really related to how the paper reconstructed it

I just really enjoy the ingame model and don’t mind if it stays the same, is what I meant 😛

[shy vale]

could have american mastodon and pacific mastodon as an alt

[ancient ibex]

Quite a bit bulkier at the very least

[hard elbow]

Yeah, it's worth remembering charono was kinda only changed because they were setting up ontogeny, so they were going to be futzing around with the animal models anyway (not too much of a reach to change a crest shape when you're already setting up a changing crest shape as the animal ages). I highly doubt we'll see any more cases like that with animals already ingame, as the devs have mentioned they're content to let PK eventually become a product of its time

[alpine thicket]

It's also mostly not going to be that big a problem since a lot of taxa in the game are pretty well-figured.

There's just a few cases where it's otherwise.

[flint sable]

I actually think mutta staying the way it is is good

leans more into the "snapshot in time" aspect for PK

[steep crane]

This ^.

[ancient ibex]

Cetotherium could be a fun aquatic animal; dolphin sized baleen whale is funny as a concept

[eager thunder]

I didn’t know this thing existed and now that I do I love it

[desert flame]

While there are certainly differences between the bumps and the fangs, I honestly don't know if we should add both as alt species.

[shy vale]

not that much differences, huh?

what about "mammut borsoni?"

[silver steeple]

If anything less difference would be a better reason to add them

They would have different biome preferences and stuff anyway, alts aren't entirely visual

[shy vale]

that's why i suggested it

i don't really get why people were like "notiomastodon should be an alt for american mastodon"

notiomastodon was a gomphothere

[silver steeple]

Well gomphothere is a big of a taxonomic trap

[shy vale]

iirc, i think mastodons weren't elephantids, while gomphotheres were?

[silver steeple]

But yes they seemingly were not related to mammutids

[shy vale]

gomphotheres are more like potentially stem-elephantids though?

[silver steeple]

Neither are elephantids

I believe gomphotheres are closer to elephantids than mammutids are

But they're still non-elephantid elephantoids afaik

[shy vale]

at least some gomphotheres were like the potential ancestors of elephantids (as in elephants and mammoths), the so-called "tetralophodont" ones

or something

[silver steeple]

And there in lies the problem

Basically all non-elephantid elephantoids at some point or another have been suggested at least if not still considered gomphotheres

Its a wastebasket essentially

Notio and Cuvieronius could well be true gomphotheres, or they could be some more unrelated elephantoids

Until gomphothere interfamilial relations get sorted out we can't really know for sure

Its fine to call them gomphotheres for the time being though

[shy vale]

fair enough but i don't really get the logic of using a gomphothere as an alt for a mastodon

[silver steeple]

There isn't much

[shy vale]

like they don't know that notiomastodon isn't actually a mastodon?

[silver steeple]

Even if they are further from gomph, they're still not mammutids

[desert flame]

Is it something like Paraceratherium and Juxia?

[silver steeple]

Its more like

Rex and Tarbo

There would be some overlap but overall their biome preferences would be pretty different

M. americanum would probably get like Wetland and Temperate, pacificum would probably get like Coastal and Grassland, with both sharing Boreal for example

[polar tinsel]

As I asked before

Why does it matter?

They look close enough, so should be easy to make out of each other models

Which is the point of alts, no?

And the alts sit on separate spots in hatchery anyway

If they can make Notio for alt out of Mastodon, taxonomy would be a silly reason to skip it

[short rover]

It has never stopped the devs before

[hollow flower]

I would take Cuvieronius over Notio any day of the week

[plush nacelle]

I wouldnt be surprised if there was some sort of obvious anatomical difference tho

[hollow flower]

In retrospect I would take Zygolophodon over Notio aswell

[silver steeple]

The problem is that afaik they don't look especially similar

[ebon venture]

IIRC this recons are dated.

Both male M. americanum and M. pacificus had larger spinous processes than females, but they probably didn't make a hump as big as shown in the M. pacificus reconstruction.

[desert flame]

So, there wasn't much difference？

[ebon venture]

Not much you could see easily, it's often reported that M. pacificus was smaller and had thinner tusks but that might be because most skeletons come from La Brea were young individuals and females are overrepresented.

That said some american mastodons (specially males) had pretty large mandibular tusks, while so far all M. pacificus known don't have them

(Would be nice for M. americanum to have one skin with no mandibular tusks an another with tusked males)

[polar tinsel]

I mean maybe my eye is untrained, but to me they are

However, if they're too different, then that's fair point to keep them separate, all I'm saying that if it's doable, taxonomy shouldn't be in the way

[polar tinsel]

Same actually, it's just that I believe that we're more likely to get south American proboscidean as smuggled Mastodon alt, than them making stand alone Cuvieronius

[low bridge]

No no no i need Platybelodon and Deinotherium

Stegotetrabelodon is interesting too

[hollow flower]

I do love Stegotetra

[low bridge]

Stegotetrabelodon, Deinotherium, bunch of African Cenozoic megafauna like Megantereon, Hippo Gorgops, Syncerus Antiqqus, Rusingoryx, Dinofelis, Ancylotherium, Sivatherium would be Nice in Prehistoric Kingdom

[ebon venture]

There's so many cool fossil proboscideans, man...

And also, we are kind of short of pre-Pleistocene mammals in-general

[hollow flower]

Proboscideans are very akin to ceratopsians in that, while the skulls are highly unique between them their postcranias are all kind of similar to each other

[low bridge]

We are even shorter on African mammals

[ebon venture]

That might be a bit of a stretch

Deinotheres bodies were quite different from Gomphos and Amebelos. As are mammoths from mastodons.

[silver steeple]

They are certainly similar, I won't say they aren't

[silver steeple]

This is because you are comparing extremely distant animals

I think its highly understated how diverse proboscideans were throughout time

[ebon venture]

I know, it was a response to @hollow flower I just couldn't figure how to reply and embed chat from another chat at the same time

[low bridge]

Elephant Related Arsinoitherium is Absolute Peak

[silver steeple]

I am aware who you are replying to

[ebon venture]

Even then there can be pretty big differences in proportions within a genus

Compare Palaeoloxodon antiquus with P. "atavus"

Or the woolly mammoth with the early african members of the genus.

[autumn plank]

i still think deinotherium would be an awesome edition to the game if the devs would allow it first?

[rigid spindle]

If I remember correctly, deinotherium was on the blurred post-EA list

[autumn plank]

oh i didnt know about that

[mint creek]

By a mile my most wanted proboscidean

[merry herald]

1. guanlong 2. utahraptor 3. megalania 4. baryonyx 5. therizinosaurus 6. shantungosaurus 7. amargasaurus 8. ceratosaurus 9. yutyrannus 10. concavenator 11. majungasaurus 12. allosaurus 13. tenontosaurus 14. herrerasaurus. i genuinely just thought of these they might already be announced idk

[peak hazel]

well allo, bary and utah are confirmed

[merry herald]

oh thats nice

[rigid spindle]

Allo is coming in june

[eager thunder]

So all dinosaurs huh?

[low bridge]

10 miles not one mile

[ancient ibex]

And the expectation for Bary is roughly this

[eager thunder]

the first barry to ever see snow

[sharp sable]

So funny that after around 8 years this meme is valid now. Fortnite went crazy

[buoyant zephyr]

Which one of them is in?

[sharp sable]

I mean

Actually, we don't have exactly those characters, but we do have Ballerina Cappuccina and Sabrina Carpenter And Master Chief

[peak hazel]

thats not Walt, Jesse or Deinotherium

[mint creek]

https://tenor.com/view/deinotherium-ark-survival-evolved-ark-ascended-gif-11773233396497969615

[slim flare]

Ew wtf

Is that JWTG Deinotherium?

[peak hazel]

ark

[buoyant zephyr]

They look good wdym

[slim flare]

Lol

[cursive mango]

The crassigyrinus in tribute to Nagel and prehistoric park for vivarium

[alpine thicket]

It's actually not a bad pick at all.

Another one of those "stereotypical swamp monster" weirdos.

[cursive mango]

It’s my favorite lost amphibian with sclerothorax

[rigid spindle]

Some weird amphibians in the amphibious vivs would be nice

[cursive mango]

Afterwards, there are so many possible species that we would like 😅

[alpine thicket]

One of my top temno picks is still Prionosuchus, also Euryops, though ideally these would be non-viv.

[cursive mango]

Or even an amphibian pack for vivarium and non-vivarium

By the way, it’s only my opinion, but when there were babies adding the oviraptor was a great idea, but I would have added the maiasaura for my part... It’s a bit like the lizard, good mother anyway

[trail moth]

oh what a weirdo

[fiery crow]

Mastodonsaurus, Pholiderpeton, and Koolasuchus too would be neat

[cursive mango]

Regarding the crassigyrinus, I would really like to see a pack with prehistoric species from Park that we don’t have in the game yet. That would be a beautiful wink, especially with Nagel’s comments 😄

If they do that... We’ll have the Carboniferous insects, a terror bird, toxodines, deinosuchus, and for example the incisivosaur that I’ve never seen in a game.

[rigid spindle]

Deinosuchus is speculated for U18

[cursive mango]

Ooooh oki oki

Then in the last devlog, they said that they had even made oceans... Can we expect the first fully aquatic species... A marine species ?

[burnt gate]

if another tyranoosaur got added ingame what do y'all want/think is mostly likely to be added

[rigid spindle]

100% no

[burnt gate]

for what i know its most likely post-game (if it succeeds)

[rigid spindle]

Fully aquatic animals (and flyers) aren't planned anytime near EA