Community Species Suggestions

[toxic oriole]

I don't know if there are accounts for its colors, or anything that holds up...

[shell sonnet]

That's because the Dutch don't know how to cook

[neat pivot]

the colors were a lot like the 3rd picture

[tawdry estuary]

lol

[slim flare]

Like this

[neat pivot]

like that

also, I didn't know they were gonna do DLC's

[toxic oriole]

And other depictions seem to have a more pigeon-like color to it as it seems

[neat pivot]

I thought they said they wouldn't do DLC

[fiery crow]

they will but only depending on how successful the game is

[neat pivot]

wdym

[toxic oriole]

Financial stuff.

[tawdry estuary]

i think dunkleosteus would be cool too

[neat pivot]

like if its rly succesful they won't?

[tulip umbra]

This depiction is the most trustworthy one iirc, in part cuz the birds around it are accurate

[slim flare]

I wonder if this one was juvenile, or female, or different time of year

[toxic oriole]

If it does well financially, then chances are they might implement expansion packs

For example: Aquatic animals, giant aqariums and such...

[shell sonnet]

If its successful, they wil;

[tawdry estuary]

i think pk will be successful

[neat pivot]

o

[slim flare]

This one was definitely based on a stuffed individual, but the colours align with the other

[plush nacelle]

Kunpengopterus erasure

[toxic oriole]

I guess no one had any documents on what the birds had looked like in life before people killed them all?

[neat pivot]

ok

[slim flare]

(The next project is Prehistoric Kingdom 2)

[neat pivot]

probably

wait wut

[slim flare]

I literally showed you a painting of one drawn from life

[toxic oriole]

True...

[tulip umbra]

What we know of the dodo is a big mess, cuz many depictions are second hand witnesses, word of mouth and stuff

[toxic oriole]

I guess this painting was made around the time they were on the island?

[slim flare]

Yes

[toxic oriole]

Well with all those dodo depictions out there, the Dodo definitely could have multiple skins based off some of those depictions

[neat pivot]

I would love to see the dodo in the game

[toxic oriole]

With the main one being of the shown painting I see

[quick ore]

they weren't stupid

[slim flare]

Would be cool

[quick ore]

they just didn't have anti predator defense

[tulip umbra]

I dont think he ever went to the island, but they were probably based on caught specimens

[neat pivot]

it would also be a good time to add like a guest encounter, where they could buy food and feed it to the animals and pet them (like in planet zoo)

[toxic oriole]

Petting zoo?

[quick ore]

that painting was of birds kept in a menagerie

[tawdry estuary]

i would love to see therizinosaurus in pk

[neat pivot]

I didn't know the dodo literally has been in zoos before, cool

[quick ore]

not zoos

[slim flare]

The three dodo skins

[quick ore]

like, private collections of elites

[neat pivot]

close enough

[tulip umbra]

Devs could make a nod to the at one point believed to be white dodo subspecies from a neighbouring island

[slim flare]

Well, albinos exist, so I personally see little point

[neat pivot]

I agree

[tulip umbra]

Well we already have animals like diictodon that has little other colour

[quick ore]

melon-colored dodo alt skin

[tulip umbra]

Plus its not pure white

[tawdry estuary]

pachycephalosaurus would be really cool to see in pk too

[tulip umbra]

With yellow feathers or add some colours to the face etc

[neat pivot]

that could just be the leucistic

or maybe even a xanthochromic

[fiery crow]

Morrison Formation DLC

Habitat:

• Amphicotylus lucasii
• Barosaurus lentus
• Camptosaurus dispar
• Gargoyleosaurus parkpinorum
• Ornitholestes hermanni
• Tanycolagreus topwilsoni

Vivarium:

• Docodon victor (Terrestrial)
• Cteniogenys antiquus (Amphibious)
• Diablophis gilmorei (Arboreal)
• Eilenodon robustus (Terrestrial)
• Fruitadens haagarorum (Terrestrial)
• Hallopus victor (Terrestrial)

new alt. species/genus:

• Apatosaurus louisae
• Hesperosaurus mjosi (Stegosaurus alt. genus)

[slim flare]

If they want to add a fourth skin, sure

[tawdry estuary]

putting a triceratops in a vivarium

muahahhahaahahahaha

[tulip umbra]

Doesnt exist in game btw

[slim flare]

I want the two realistic skins, and then one “pop culture” skin, and I think the gray one is more unique because albino is close to the white one

[fiery crow]

Aquilops

[neat pivot]

I know

[tulip umbra]

So?

[neat pivot]

They could make one

Idk

[outer moth]

You could add that Barosaurus sp. material (if that’s still legitimate)

[peak hazel]

Morrison dlc without Diplod or Cerato

[fiery crow]

I’m trying to exclude anything that wasn’t in the original roster, since we don’t know if they’ll come back or not

[tulip umbra]

Stokesosaurus?

[fiery crow]

what about it

[peak hazel]

oh yeah the original roster

[coarse inlet]

I think we’re assuming those will be free updates

[coarse inlet]

May I also suggest new alts:
Apatosaurus louisae
Hesperosaurus mjosi (Stegosaurus)

[tulip umbra]

Id gladly just pay for them as dlc

[coarse inlet]

Sure but they were on the old post EA roster

Which was for free updates as far as we know

[fiery crow]

should I remove Amphicotylus or not? I feel it might be a bit too similar to modern-day crocodilians.

[peak hazel]

crocodiles are cool so its fine

[tulip umbra]

Leave the croc, scrap stokeso tbh

[coarse inlet]

Nah just replace with Tanycolagreus it’s more complete

[slim flare]

Ornitholestes…

[tulip umbra]

Yes

[coarse inlet]

Also good

Might want that instead of Coelurus because it has more skull

[fiery crow]

Hell Creek Formation DLC

Habitat:

• Anzu wyliei
• Leptoceratops gracilis
• Nanotyrannus lethaeus
• Struthiomimus sedens
• Thescelosaurus neglectus
• Torosaurus latus

Vivarium:

• Avisaurus archibaldi (Arboreal)
• Basilemys sinuosa (Terrestrial)
• Champsosaurus ambulator (Amphibious)
• Didelphodon vorax (Amphibious)
• Palaeosinawa canadensis (Terrestrial)

ngl other than the Vivarium animals and like. Anzu. this is kind of a mid list imo.

[tough marsh]

Yep

Be meaning to suggest a weird dicynodont

[fiery crow]

Aulacephalodon?

[tough marsh]

Nah that’s pretty standard

Like average for that clade

The intresting one from that clade is Bulbasaurus because name or Geikia because dear god that skull is weird

[shell sonnet]

Toro over Nano is certainly a choice

[fiery crow]

fixed

[tough marsh]

its cistecephalus

[cloud nymph]

I am sorry for not helping the devs reach the stretch goals. I still haven’t figured out the right job yet

[fiery crow]

Western Interior Seaway DLC

Habitat:

• Hesperornis gracilis (semi-aquatic)

Vivarium:

• Baculites vertebralis (Aquatic)
• Dallasaurus turneri (Amphibious)
• Didymoceras nebrascense (Aquatic)
• Enchodus dirus (Aquatic)
• Gillicus arcuatus (Aquatic)
• Ichthyornis dispar (Arboreal + Amphibious hybrid)
• Pachyrhizodus caninus (Aquatic)

Aquarium:

• Cretoxyrhina mantelli
• Dolichorhynchops osborni
• Elasmosaurus platyurus
• Enchoteuthis melanae
• Globidens schurmanni
• Platecarpus tympaniticus
• Protosphyraena perniciosa
• Protostega gigas
• Ptychodus martini
• Stratodus apicalis
• Styxosaurus snowii
• Tylosaurus proriger
• Xiphactinus audax

Aviary:

• Nyctosaurus gracilis
• Pteranodon sternbergi

[cloud nymph]

Next project?

[peak hazel]

was T. progir not in the seaway

[shell sonnet]

Tylosaurus proriger is found there yes

[split trench]

That means it’s very plausible they come out by U19

[peak hazel]

no it doesn't

[shell sonnet]

What he said

[tulip umbra]

They want to make an fps in hopes to beat call of duty.

My great uncle told me

[cloud nymph]

Uh oh stinky…

[amber field]

tbh , I would like to see something similar to Dino crisis

[fiery crow]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/prehistoric-wiki/images/f/f4/Pezosiren.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20201101151754

Pezosiren portelli, a basal sirenian from early Eocene Jamaica with a hippopotamus-like lifestyle. It’s known from an almost-complete skeleton, and I think it’d be a great semi-aquatic mammal.

[median glen]

I suggest that would be interesting if pk added old interpretations of the animals

[peak hazel]

1880s trike is

unique

[fiery crow]

Iguanodon doe

[peak hazel]

we do need an 1800s iguanodon statue

[hollow flower]

trollface trike in the 1880s

[quick ore]

I don't think retrosaurs would be a good idea or even make any sense

plus there's already other prehistoric species that look like retrosaurs

like Shringasaurus is basically an irl crystal palace Iguanodon

[coarse inlet]

Yeah the Triassic is full of retrosaur looking things

[quick ore]

yeah there's 0 reason to waste dev time and money on retrosaurs outside of maybe like, statues

[flint sable]

ye, even then you can make some pretty good ones

iirc theres a megalosaurus statue on the workshop already

[open heron]

Retrosaurs would make for amazing mods if nothing else.

Would be inclined to install them immediately if they existed... Not sure about adding them to the base game, however.

(except as statues please omg I need that)

[quick ore]

yeah my main point is that devs shouldn't be working on them, not that a mod shouldn't exist

because that would be wayyy too much work for something so unnecessary that an actual new species would be better to spend time and money on

[autumn oyster]

I think Tamarro would make a good choice for a troontid, because it is known to grow up extremely fast

[left spear]

It's like a single femur

I love my spanish dinosaurs but just... No

Peak animal

[autumn oyster]

eh

it's cute though

it could be a troodon alt

are they related enough to be alt?

whats the alt limit

ok yeah not that much related

[cosmic cosmos]

pachyrhizodus and gillicus are exhibit sized aquatics

also Protosphyraena would be a good addition (or hold it for eromanga sea)

[quick ore]

what's cute about it? it's a femur

do you mean some reconstructions of it are cute? because that doesn't necessarily mean anything about the actual animal

[shell sonnet]

Troodonitids can be just Saurornithoides and one of the American animals (like Stenonychosaurus or Latenivenatrix)

If you want something closer to Tamaro, Jinfengopteryx works as a mini

[cosmic cosmos]

do we have melanosomes for this guy? the preservation is exquisite

[shell sonnet]

I don't know for sure

[left spear]

I think Stenon with a Prince Creek Troodon sp alt would be fun

[feral cedar]

NO

YOU

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-angry-speaking-head-tuco-squidward-gif-13808874276609302886

[median relic]

crystal palace megalosaurus could easily be kostensuchus or anteosaurus

I would definitely like retrosaur statues though. Seems cool

[eager thunder]

I wonder the likelihood of guanlong getting in

I’d really like one of those

Or moreso I guess returning

[tulip umbra]

Very likely as it was part of the og 50, though not guaranteed ofc

[eager thunder]

I’ve recently become a big fan of the thing so hopefully hopefully

[fiery crow]

Dinosaur Park Formation DLC

Habitat:

• Centrosaurus apertus
• Chasmosaurus belli, alt. species Chasmosaurus russelli
• Corythosaurus casuarius
• Daspletosaurus horneri
• Dromaeosaurus albertensis
• Euoplocephalus tutus, alt. genus Scolosaurus cutleri
• Panoplosaurus mirus
• Stegoceras validum
• Stenonychosaurus inequalis

Vivarium:

• Alphadon halleyi (Terrestrial)
• Hesperonychus elizabethae (Terrestrial)

[quick ore]

damn that's a lot of heavy hitters, I'm impressed

[left spear]

No comment, just great.

[slim flare]

Except Daspleto with a Gorgosaurus alt

[eager thunder]

Toxadon

[slim flare]

Daspleto already has 16 species and isn’t closely related to Albertosaurines

[eager thunder]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkbK9Y9QvvVScHIdkfTbJy5hr0NZlAApopKBmRZcDWMRixR2w7DU-NL4EURxsmOsbiDwGkfb9UhJ1iv0zp9pW-qpy6Y3fMJAkoIxBi_WxNGg&s=10 toxodon

[slim flare]

Yes

[quick ore]

SANU's are always welcome

I just hope we get more than just the 2 obvious choices

[fiery crow]

Pyrotherium

[left spear]

Based and fire-pilled

Anyways uh

Devincencia alt to Kele

That's it

[quick ore]

my personal most wanted SANU is Homalodotherium

[fiery crow]

Granastrapotherium

[left spear]

South american...?

[fiery crow]

Granastrapotherium is South American…?

[eager thunder]

Anisodon would be cool

[vast berry]

Daeodon is likely to be coming when the game officially launches

[final plaza]

aepycamelus is such a weirdo I love it

[vast berry]

Megalonyx is here over other sloths because of Sid the Sloth, who is a Megalonyx

[eager thunder]

If we’re going by betas hyenadon should also be likely

[eager thunder]

Love me my extinct weirdos

[autumn oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/death-gif-24356219

[fiery crow]

Taeniolabis taoensis, a multituberculate from the early Paleocene. I think it would work very well as an early Paleogene mammal.

[ancient ibex]

It is a goddamn Jinfengopterygine femur

[left spear]

Eh, Titanis at most as a Kele alt

Quite worthless as it's own thing

Extremely fragmentary

Otherwise really good

Maybe need me some Sylviornis

[vast berry]

@cyan urchin said its his favourite pick of the pack, along with Hesperornis

[left spear]

To each their own

[ancient ibex]

I'm starting to feel like the reddit-esque "DLC pack suggestions" are getting a bit too common

[plush nacelle]

Good. These generate the most interest

[ancient ibex]

What interest, this is a containment thread

[plush nacelle]

Alright, this person should spread them on reddit then

[ancient ibex]

I mean, it is fair, but it has been over 7 years since the first JWE packs, and those have reached the "gamer self-gaslighting" stage lol

[left spear]

Tbf

Coping is an integral part of dinosaur games

[cloud nymph]

Or zoo games in general

[outer moth]

What makes em Reddit-esque?

[ancient ibex]

The fact that that sort of image is common as publications in the zoo game subreddits, and as people upvote them they are commonly used

[cloud nymph]

I mean, people will always keep wanting new animals in zoo games

[tulip umbra]

Jan 6th, Bohra Paulae. It is closely related to modern tree kangaroos, showing many of the same adaptations for an arboreal lifestyle. Unlike the living tree kangaroos, it is much much larger and went extinct as recent as 22.000yrs ago. Unfortunately due to its arboreal lifestyle, the best chance this animal has at an inclusion in pk is in the largest arboreal vivarium despite its size. Image shows size comparison with human and living tree kangaroo.

[shell sonnet]

Dasleto and Gorgo and Euoplocep and Panoplo are way too different to be alts of each other

If you want an Euoplo alt, Scolosaurus would be better

You also forgot both species of Chasmosaurus as well as Struthimimus altus

[pallid oyster]

Chiming in here to advocate for the addition of Ceratosaurs. Ceratosaurus would be cool but the Morrison is pretty well represented. I feel like Abelisaurs are probably the big missing theropod group so far in the game which I'm sure y'all are aware of

And i feel like more Gondwanan species in general would be great. More Gondwanan sauropods (i.e. Titanodaurs), funky Ornithischians like Zuul and Kentrosaurus. Spico if we're lucky though i doubt it since it's such a recent elaboration. But you get the idea

(realized last night that North American mesozoic taxa are like idk a third????? Of all the mesozoic species?)

[shell sonnet]

Cerato isn't an Abelisaur but a more basal member of the group they descend from. We're likely going to get Carnotaurus in U19.

[pallid oyster]

Yeah i know that's why I said Ceratosaurs

I sortof shifted the subject of the sentences from one to the next since i was talking about the overall group

I wasn't calling Ceratos Abelisaurs lol sorry if that wasn't clear

[shell sonnet]

That's just reality. Most of the well known dinos and other Mesozoics are from there.

[pallid oyster]

Yeah but the issue is there's plenty of cool Gondwanan animals to pull from to balance. Obviously none of us are The Taxa Arbiters but it would be cool and I'm sure lots of players can agree. Honestly it's probably in the works to some extent?

One or two Australian ones would be cool. Austroraptor and all

[shell sonnet]

Austroraptor is from Argentina

[pallid oyster]

Also megaraptors

[pallid oyster]

OOPS

I keep getting fooled by that 😭

Ok well. Showed my butt i just want megaraptors and unalagians 😂 (idk spelling on that)

[shell sonnet]

The only other two Australian dinos that would be good are Australovenator and Kunbarrasaurus.

[mint creek]

Maip believers rise up

[pallid oyster]

Ty

[mint creek]

and Amarga too

he can rise up also

[amber field]

is this a calling for EZ ?

[mint creek]

Has EZ ever advocated for Maip

I thought he just did mammals

[amber field]

tbh I want to see an arid hadrosaurs

[tulip umbra]

Prob

[amber field]

yeah

[shell sonnet]

End of the day, just including an animal to fill in an imaginary continent quota is just a waste; it's better to go with a better-known, better studied and better put together species when comparing similar animals. With regards to the Mesozoic, the most of the well-known come from Laurasia, and because those areas are better studied (for reasons) it's more reasonable to get more from there. Stuff from Gondawana that sticks out usually are things without good Laurasia equivalents like Abelisaurs, Megaraptors, Parankylosaurs, Titanosaurs and the like.

[mint creek]

Nah, contient quota is good because it makes for interesting zoo building

[ancient ibex]

Nah

[fiery crow]

dude

COME

ON

let people have their fun

[shell sonnet]

Where the Southern hemisphere is good is during the Permian (South Africa has a lot of great animals) and the Cenozoic (Argentina and Australia have great things).

[amber field]

did Barsboldia lived in arid environment ?

[ancient ibex]

Mesozoic Gondwana has cool stuff, but gondwana as a whole

[ancient ibex]

Barsboldia is a nothingburger that got used in Prehistoric Planet because there was an edmontosaur model and the Nemegt has hadrosaurs

[mint creek]

Being able to fashion zoos after geographical locations is fun for gameplay and roleplaying so I will always support a continent quota mindset

[tulip umbra]

I just want any animal, doesn’t matter abt time and place as long as theyre not glupshittosaurus

[amber field]

and what they are ?

[ancient ibex]

Saurolophus is a common talking point here for a reason lol

[amber field]

ah okay , and what about SA ones , probably they were adapted for more arid biomes in the game

I would love to see a hadrosaur that can live the desert biome

[shell sonnet]

Then Saurolophus angustirostris is what you want

[amber field]

we need it the game 💯

[fiery crow]

you never know, in the future they might add climbing mechanics

[tulip umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[fiery crow]

EXTREMELY unnecessary, but okay. If you have nothing nice to say, my recommendation to you? Just don’t say it at all.

[tulip umbra]

?

[amber field]

the devs said due to technical limitation they can't do it sadly

[fiery crow]

You’re really taking the mods for their words after they ended up lying about what’d be in U16? They have enough reason to lie about anything, methinks.

I won’t dignify you with a response any further.

[shell sonnet]

There's a difference between animals and mechanics

[mint creek]

Yeah I’d keep taking their word on mechanics lmao

[peak hazel]

Mau is a dastardly trickster
but it would be weird for him to lie about mechanics

[tulip umbra]

U should stop taking everything so personal… i just implied that i highly doubt climbing mechanics are coming.

[plush nacelle]

Also climbing would be rather niche

With very few animals being able to use it

[tulip umbra]

Not too mention complicated as all hell with the amount of modular pieces and scaling n shit

[plush nacelle]

Tree enrichment item would be in my opinion good enough

[digital pendant]

Just to clarify. Messing around with animal roster is one thing, because its a very fluid thing that can change out of a nowhere and DOES NOT impact the core gameplay as much as you guys think. If there are devs talking about mechanics that can or cannot be added then its a different matter. It can change of course through a breakthrough, but is not something that the devs will actively give misinformation because it directly affects the core gameplay.

[fiery crow]

That I would be fine with, at the very least.

[plush nacelle]

Maybe it could work the same way as vivariums where there is slide bar

So player can change leaf density and such

Mighty Arboreal Pack for PK

[fiery crow]

Megamastax amblyodus, a recently-discovered (2014) species of lobe-finned fish from the late Silurian period, and so far the earliest-known one to exist. A great addition to a Aquatic vivarium if we get any in the future.

[outer moth]

At best, I’d assume aviaries are gonna have it for species like Tapejara

[fiery crow]

oh aviaries could actually work for some more arboreal species

[pallid oyster]

Eh i kiiiinda disagree? I do think you have a decent point, but diversity was fairly high all over the globe. I think there's a balance to be struck with your point and representing other continents and biomes. It also just feels pretty NA centric since we also know that part of why Gondwana isn't as well represented is, in part, also cause of colonization and its affects on what gets studied

[outer moth]

I’m only assuming this though, and you know how assumptions are

[pallid oyster]

This also

And yeah to be clear i think my issue is that we are lacking animals from Gondwana that don't have great Laurasian representatives i think

So like that's a good point there

TO BE FAIR they gave us no less than THREE formations to get E. regalis from lmao

[outer moth]

They make an ass out of you (and ming)

[pallid oyster]

I think if they're able to bulk up the species list then they can spare a few Gondwanans lol

[pallid oyster]

YIPPEEEEE TAPEJARA

wait which one has the thumbs. Monkey ass bird

[plush nacelle]

I think vivariums are already confirmed to get climbing anims

[outer moth]

Not confirmed btw, just assumptions seeing as the devs might work on an aviary/aquarium expansion after the RE DLC

[pallid oyster]

Yeah ik i just love tapejarids

And get excited

Idk why i just think they're very neat. Honestly those and probably rampharhynchoids are prolly some of my favorite pterosaurs

No hate to Azdharkids but everyone already loves u

^can't spell

[outer moth]

Absolutely
Though I do think anything smaller than Ramphorynchus should be a vivarium critter

Such as Dimorphodon

[fiery crow]

why does this have three “devs pls” reactions it’s not even that great 😭

[pallid oyster]

Tupandactylus was the pterosaur with the thumbs i was thinking of

[quick ore]

no

that was Kunpengopterus

@pallid oyster

[pallid oyster]

Ah ok looking for not long enough on Google lied to me. Wikipedia confirms that Tupandactylus doesn't seem to be it though weirdly enough both Wiki pages seem to use the same photo despite Tupan's page not saying anything about them being synonyms

Thanks Ivy

Wait why th did i think this was a tapejarid.

This is definitely not lol

[fiery crow]

Karoo Formation DLC

Habitat:

• Anteosaurus magnificus
• Bradysaurus baini, alt. species Bradysaurus seeleyi
• Cynognathus crateronotus
• Erythrosuchus africanus
• Jonkeria truculenta
• Lystrosaurus murrayi
• Massospondylus carinatus, alt. species Massospondylus kaalae
• Melanorosaurus readi
• Moschops capensis
• Proterosuchus fergusi
• Rubidgea atrox
• Styracocephalus platyrhynchus

Vivarium:

• Euparkeria capensis (Terrestrial)
• Heterodontosaurus tucki (Terrestrial)
• Lesothosaurus diagnosticus (Terrestrial)
• Lycaenops ornatus (Terrestrial)
• Megazostrodon rudnerae (Terrestrial)
• Mesosuchus browni (Terrestrial)
• Protosuchus haughtoni (Terrestrial)
• Rhinesuchus whaitsi (Amphibious)
• Thrinaxodon liorhinus (Terrestrial)

[shell sonnet]

I can think of ~16 Mesozoic dinos from Gondawana that would be great to add that aren't in the game. I can think of around 3 times as much from Laurasia. Groups like Marginocephalia, Tyrannosaurs, Therizinosaurs, Hadrosauriods, etc. don't have good options from Gondawana. And most of the good choices are concentrated in US/Canada and China/Mongolia. That's just reality.

[pallid oyster]

Again though they often have their own groups to pull from. I get what you're saying and I'm not saying that you're totally wrong but a lot of those listed already have rep in game. Adding 15 Gondwanans or so would already majorly help balance things out. Also this is based on "things i can recall off hand" which y'know. Is only so reliable

I'm not saying they should get rid of like already in game taxa, just that adding reps from largely Gondwanan groups would help a lot.

There's no reason that anything you've said would really negate that evaluation

So i really just kinda don't get why people would be against adding a handful or two more of Gondwanan species. Like it should be stated tons of popular species are from there that aren't in game (yet). It's not really a criticism of the game since it's early access so much as something i hope gets attention in the future which is the point of this thread

South America has one dino rn and it's one titanosaur lol

[mint creek]

Amargasaurus... Maip... I believe...

[pallid oyster]

Carnotaurus, Austroraptor, Stegouros and many others are from there

[mint creek]

Carno is soft confirmed already, would have mentioned him if not for that

[pallid oyster]

So my whole point is just that there's cool animals and groups that are currently proportionately underrepresented in part because they're from Gondwana

[pallid oyster]

That makes sense seeing as popular as it is

Also wishlist item for me is like. A bunch of other Pseudosuchians lol

[pallid oyster]

My lumpy babies

[mint creek]

I like Austro too. Game could do with some more piscivores for balance.

[shell sonnet]

U19 is supposedly going to add 4 new SA animals.

[pallid oyster]

That and also I'd be happy with like one other cool Spinosaurid

[pallid oyster]

Yippeee!

[mint creek]

Baryonyx my beloved...

Soon I will have you

(Bary also confirmed)

[pallid oyster]

His snout is so cute

Sweet. It's not Icthyovenator but I'll be happy

I'm sure that like there's a few I'd like that are confirmed that i just don't know about cause idk how y'all know what all is confirmed or not

And again lots of this is stuff that eventual modders can help add

[mint creek]

Just Allosaurus (4 species), Stegosaurus (2 species), Utahraptor, Baryonyx and Carno

[shell sonnet]

Choosing Icthyo over Bary would be baffling

[mint creek]

Those are all the 100% confirmed (Well Carno's more of a "soft confirmed")

[pallid oyster]

Which is honestly where a lot of my hopes are cause i hate coming off like a fan cracking a whip at people building a Kickstarter game y'know

[fiery crow]

Megatherium, Doedicurus, Carnotaurus and Kelenken right

[shell sonnet]

Yes

[pallid oyster]

Fair 😂

I like weirdo choices tho

KELEKEN

[shell sonnet]

And there's a few SA animals on the old post-EA list

[pallid oyster]

.......i can make a Cenozoic exception for my mesozoic park lmao

[mint creek]

God I want a Chalicothere so bad

Horse with fists, nature really peaked here

[pallid oyster]

Glad to see they plan on adding more mammals for the mammal fans /gen

[shell sonnet]

The lists is old, things have probably changed

[pallid oyster]

Sucho and Bary might be a bit redundant imo? Idk maybe I'm just a hater

[quick ore]

I hope we get at least 2 Chalicotheres

[mint creek]

Same

[quick ore]

one knuckle walker and one that doesn't

[pallid oyster]

Ngl i do not respect those freaks /j

[quick ore]

Chalicotherium + Moropus

[pallid oyster]

Horse Gorilla Defies God

[shell sonnet]

Sucho works as an alt of Bary. Beyond that, it's rather redundant.

[limber needle]

yes anteosaurus mentioned my underrated king

[pallid oyster]

And Bary is smaller and has a cuter face so. Hopefully we get it lol

[shell sonnet]

U18

[slim flare]

Bary is confirmed

[pallid oyster]

quiet patient yippeeee

[quick ore]

crazy how the Permian has enough species for like 2 or more entire dlc's

[pallid oyster]

Yeah i saw

[shell sonnet]

Depends on the pack size, I think you can break it up into 4-5 with 4-5 animals each

[pallid oyster]

I swear if i ever figure out how to mod I'm going nuts in the Triassic and Permian

[quick ore]

ye

[shell sonnet]

Even better if you mix in the Carboniferous animals.

[quick ore]

for sure tho the permian has plenty of its own viv options

[pallid oyster]

Gimme all those funky synapsids and land crocs

[eager thunder]

In terms of dinosaurs have Pachys actually been confirmed?

[quick ore]

the permian didnt have land crocs what

[eager thunder]

Or is that speculation among us

[quick ore]

crocs didn't evolve yet

[pallid oyster]

I waaaaanna say yes?

[pallid oyster]

I know. I was referring to what I said when i said I'd add Permian and Triassic

[peak hazel]

very likely u17

[eager thunder]

I mean it makes sense for a combat update if anything

[peak hazel]

but Mau could pull something

[shell sonnet]

WIP
Carboniferous and Early Permian Pack
Dimetrodon grandis/limbatus/angelensis
Eryops megacephalus
Cotylorhynchus romeri/hancocki
Ophiacodon mirus/retroversus
Edaphosaurus pogonias/boanerges/novomexicanus
Anthracosaurus russeii
Neopteroplax conemaughensis (?)
Prionosuchus plummer
Eudibamus cursoris (mini ?)
Meganeura monyi or. Meganeuropsis permiana (mini)
Platyhystrix rugosus (mini)
Seymouria baylorensis (mini)
Arthropleura armata (mini)

Mid-Late Permian Pack
Moschops capensis/Ulemosaurus gigas
Anteosaurus magnificus/Titanophoneus potens
Inostrancevia alexandri/latifrons
Scutosaurus karpinskii/Pareiasaurus serridens
Estemmenosuchus uralensis/mirabilis
Tiarajudens eccentricus
Alopecognathus angusticeps
Biarmosuchus tener
Jonkeria truculenta
Elginia mirabilis (mini)
Procynosuchus delaharpeae (mini)
Suminia getmanovi (mini)
Weigeltisaurus jaekeli/Coelurosauravus elivensis (mini)

[peak hazel]

I would like some weird Triassic guys

[eager thunder]

Herrasaurus hours

[peak hazel]

thats not a weird Triassic guy

[quick ore]

yes it is

[shell sonnet]

Yeah a non-dino terresterial Mesozoic pack would be good

What she said

Herra is weird for its time

[peak hazel]

actually yeah

[eager thunder]

That’s like the Triassic carnivore

[peak hazel]

but for a dinosaur its pretty standard

[quick ore]

Herrera is weird for us not knowing what it exactly is

[peak hazel]

still would like it in game

[pallid oyster]

I think Herra is mostly weird for our understanding of that era of terrestrial vertebrates

[peak hazel]

I'd be quicker to say Coelophysis is

[quick ore]

HYPERODAPEDON VIV

[pallid oyster]

Anyways I've said my peace about Gondwana rep and Pseudosuchians. Besides that generally I'd think some Thyreophora diversity would be cool in addition to Steg and of course I'm always gonna hope for marine reptiles

Mammal fans can get whales

Scary ancient ones

[shell sonnet]

We are likely to get Ambulocetus

[pallid oyster]

Ok I'm going back now. Sliding back into the depths of Work

[eager thunder]

The JP the game herrarasaurs are just burned into my mind

[quick ore]

would be cool to get Maiacetus too, basically a seal whale

[shell sonnet]

Would be great for a Ischigualasto pack.

Eoraptor lunensis
Herreasaurus ischigualastensis
Saurosuchus galilei
Exaeretodon argentinus
Ischigualastia jenseni
Pisanosaurus mertii (mini)
Hyperodapedon sanjuanensis (mini)

[fiery crow]

I actually did something pretty similar to this a week or so ago
#1360542295228944414 message

[quick ore]

*Herrerasaurus

wait Eoraptor is large enough?

[shell sonnet]

#1360542295228944414 message

[shell sonnet]

Yes

Let me find the image

First one on the left is Eoraptor

[fiery crow]

I did one for the Chinle Formation too

#1360542295228944414 message

[quick ore]

oh ok

[tulip umbra]

The amount of times the same thing has been rehashed lol

[fiery crow]

well. I included like one or two more. (Chiniquodon and Sillosuchus)

[peak hazel]

I'd definitely like Postosuchus

[fiery crow]

I’d give away anything for some non-dino Triassic representation in general.

[peak hazel]

Fasolasuchus as well but more so Postosuchus

[fiery crow]

Saurosuchus, Ornithosuchus

[tough marsh]

may i say something on this

[fiery crow]

sure

[tough marsh]

gorgonops would be vivariam its the same size as lycanops (both are waste baskets in need of work)
current research suggests only one Moschops species

[peak hazel]

I forget that Gorgonopsids on average weren't that big

[tough marsh]

comparing both skulls

[tough marsh]

its medium size for one

biggest is ino

i can quickly

[peak hazel]

yeah since Inos is the one I know best I always just think of every Gorgonopsid being that size

[tough marsh]

heres a quick thing i did

all are to scale

[ancient ibex]

I mean, I could see them dog-sized critters working as full habitat; stuff like Compy and Mono are mostly limbs or tail, while those have noticeable bodies

[fiery crow]

Pisco Formation DLC

Habitat:

• Acrophoca longirostirus (semi-aquatic)
• Thalassocnus natans (semi-aquatic)

Aquarium:

• Acrophyseter deinodon
• Livyatan melvillei
• Odobenocetops peruvianus
• Otodus megalodon
• Piscobalaena nana

Aviary:

• Pelagornis sp.

[tidal flame]

Guys what are your thoughts and opinions on Eocarcharia as and addition and as a species?

[flint sable]

which one

eocarcharia is both a spinosaurid and a carcharodontosaurid, and even then this is all we got

technically the spino bit has priority, the carch bits are now unnamed

[peak hazel]

unfortunate

[quick ore]

sounds like a bad choice then

[peak hazel]

Eocarcharia works best as a Carcharodontosaur

but if its in such a state
best to not

[flint sable]

even then, its kind of ass in terms of completion anyway

[final plaza]

Arent there other mid-sized to large (not XL) Carcharodontosaurs we could use?

Like, instead of Eocarch?

[peak hazel]

Conc

[flint sable]

Conc

[final plaza]

Well conc is a given, its so unique

[tidal flame]

conc would be peak

[flint sable]

Neovenator aint terrible I suppose

[quick ore]

all you really need is Conc

there's better mid sized theropods to use besides obscure carc species with basically no material

[tidal flame]

I kinda like afrovenator despite it having overlapping looks with other more popular dinosaur

[abstract compass]

afrovenator is one of those i feel like people are sleeping on.

same with eustreptospondylus. think megalosaurs deserve abit more love in general

[fiery crow]

thing is, we already have Torvosaurus. do we really need more?

[peak hazel]

most of the megalosaurs are based off of Torvo anyway

[abstract compass]

in the world of similar megalosaurs, Eustrepto is vastly different and european

just a lil guy

just a lil island boy

[peak hazel]

T. gurneyi is also European so that doesn't really work

same with Megalosaurus itself

[abstract compass]

wasnt my point but ok. no albertosaurus for you or any other NA tyrannosaurs

[peak hazel]

it is definitely different from the other megalosaurs

[abstract compass]

[fiery crow]

I’m not gonna lie I’m reading Grimnir’s messages in Charlie’s voice

[peak hazel]

but it being from Europe isn't a selling point

vro would've been a glup shitto without wwd
and it basically was just used as a glup shitto for that episode

[fiery crow]

the Polar Allosaur

[peak hazel]

Martill said that when making the pilot they needed at least 1 actual dinosaur
so they put Eustreptospondylus in

vro was just there to fill a quota

[fiery crow]

I personally wouldn’t really care if it was added in or not

[abstract compass]

it was in wwd?

[eager thunder]

Concavinator
Guanlong
And Utahraptors

That’s my top 3

Most wanted

I guess Utahs are already confirmed tho

[quick ore]

no that was Australovenator

[quick ore]

*Concavenator

[eager thunder]

I can’t spell

[fiery crow]

I know but it was 100% a glupshittosaurus at the time the episode was made

[quick ore]

what do u even mean by that though it wasn't even described

[peak hazel]

its actually quite hard to describe what glupshitto means

[tidal flame]

Its overlooked but its the one that gets destroyed by the massive liopleurodon and then continues to eat a beached one later in the episode

[peak hazel]

even though I know what context its used for

[eager thunder]

I really hope we get a bulky Utah

[tidal flame]

Also rajasaurus or mujungasaurus are on my list for wants

[eager thunder]

I don’t really get the Mujungs tbh

I’d much prefer to see a Carno

[tidal flame]

I just think its a semi underrated dinosaur along with raja but at least they both got love in prehistoric planet and as for carno I can see them doing well with it but in general think we need more abelisaurid representation

[eager thunder]

I don’t deny that I love the little no armed freaks

But I just really wana see a Carno

[tidal flame]

we can have all of them for all I care, I just want afrovenator and abelisaurids and ill be happy with theropods

[quick ore]

Majungasaurus would be cool as another abelisaur

and it's the best dinosaur to add from Madagascar

[eager thunder]

Wait aren’t Carnos confirmed or is that another speculation thing?

[tough marsh]

Actually it’s not the bone that they based it on isn’t assigned to austroraptor

It’s Theropod Indet

[quick ore]

wait wha

[tidal flame]

fr if we're gonna be honest theres only so many dinosaurs from madagascar that they can add so majunga is garunteed if they have plans for that part of the world

[tough marsh]

Yep

[quick ore]

do you have a source for this?

[tough marsh]

I can find it again

[plush nacelle]

You talking about WWD animal?

No animal lived alongside each other from this episode

Apparently this is WWD animal

[shell sonnet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_informally_named_dinosaurs#Allosaurus_robustus

[ancient ibex]

Nah, type bone is a spinosaur (which may be Suchomimus), carcharodontosaur material remains unnamed

(and didn't read further, sorry, discord going to old messages)

[low bridge]

Pfuck with Abelis give me Maip Macrothorax and Orkoraptor

[feral cedar]

I mean I see no reason why we can't get abelisaurids AND megaraptorids...

[fiery crow]

https://tenor.com/view/both-agree-yes-good-gif-4591420

[ancient ibex]

I stand by 3 megaraptorid sizes being covered by alts, and for Carno and Majunga to both make it

[fiery crow]

Maevarano needs as much representation as it can possibly get, Simosuchus and Sahonachelys should be just the tip of the iceberg imo

[ancient ibex]

Majunga, Masiaka, Mahajanga, frog...

[fiery crow]

#1360542295228944414 message

[ancient ibex]

Between "Majunga" and "Majungasaurus", there are over 100 search results in this thread tho...

[cosmic cosmos]

why orkoraptor of all the megaraptorans?

megaraptor and australovenator are way better

[shell sonnet]

This is Rapeto erasure

[ancient ibex]

Fair

I'm more of a Salta and dwarf Hatzeg guy for titanosaurs

Rapeto is cool tho

[fiery crow]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS35oeQ5JaIqMH8DKF6iEYUWIL9z-1HSdGDVA52mBcJhIT5GwztPQhCnfTiS2_gWSfx1rFE2Bf3p6JOJe4Zg_UOH5r7zQP_VXoJMw9TMg&s=10

Drazinderetes tethyensis, a giant marine softshell turtle from mid-Eocene Pakistan. It would be perfect for an aquarium species in the future.

[tulip umbra]

Not freshwater btw

[fiery crow]

you’re the one that introduced me to it : )

[tulip umbra]

From this size chart i made?

Glad to spread cool animals to more people

[fiery crow]

that’s the one

Tavachelhydra is brand newly discovered right

[tulip umbra]

Yea, i was looking for a snapping turtle rep. The other species didnt even have pics

Tavachelydra might not have a wiki, but at least it had a pic haha

[eager thunder]

What even is the evolutionary advantage of whatever stupemdemys has

[tulip umbra]

U mean the horns beside its head?

[eager thunder]

Yeah they’re weird and I like them but why

[tulip umbra]

I think they’re probably slightly exaggerated in size on that pic, but most likely to fight other males or to defend its neck

[cosmic cosmos]

some tortoises have similar spikes on their plastron for jousting between males

[tulip umbra]

It was also sexually dimorphic iirc, tho dont quote me on that.

[eager thunder]

Funny lil guy

[frosty torrent]

Hyaenodon gigas

[coarse inlet]

wouldnt Basilemys be terrestrial

[coarse inlet]

Males likey fought each other with them

how sure are we that this isnt just broken

[digital pendant]

If i recall, the fossil shows it was likely having a keratinized extension on those protrutions which is why the artist made it like that

And yes it was exclusive to males

[vast berry]

We need Bulbasaurus

[tulip umbra]

Yea but i ran out of space on the bottom 😔

[vast berry]

https://tenor.com/view/bulbasaur-pokemon-gif-10983222284102702253

[shell sonnet]

Oh, I love Salta way, way more than Rapeto. Rapeto would probably be 3rd or 4th of wanted Titanosaurs.

[pallid oyster]

Asking for a Nintendo lawsuit lol

[vast berry]

It's an official dicynodont, named after its resemblance to the famous Pokemon

[pallid oyster]

Yeah i know lol

I'm like half joking

[quick ore]

I don't really think inclusions made only on merit of their name gimmicks are good ideas

Like, is there anything about the actual animal that would make it worth adding? It's only a skull

oh wait no

there is some postcrania

even still, is there anything about it that actually stands out that would make it a good inclusion besides the name?

[shell sonnet]

For Bidentalians, Lystrosaurus is still the best choice.

But I can imagine the devs saying "we already have Diictodon, so we don't need another mini Dicyodont at the moment"

[fiery crow]

Lystrosaurus would work as a full habitat animal honestly

[cloud nymph]

Homonculus patagonicus is an enthralling simian

[fiery crow]

it’s pig-sized right

[shell sonnet]

Depends on the species

L. murrayi is the best studied, the most commonly found, and the type. It's a mini.

[quick ore]

what?

[mint creek]

so true

[fiery crow]

which vivie size though

[shell sonnet]

Box

[fiery crow]

oh I had NO idea Lystrosaurus was that tiny

[quick ore]

Lystro should be the large Triassic species

[shell sonnet]

Oh, that's just one species. There are bigger kinds

[quick ore]

the one that was everywhere

[fiery crow]

when I think Lystro I mostly think the Lystro from WwB

[quick ore]

same

[shell sonnet]

That's all of them.

The big difference is that the two small species are Triassic only whilst the larger ones also lived in the Permian

[ancient ibex]

https://bsky.app/profile/serpenillus.bsky.social/post/3mbtqthb7wj23 The "Dimetrodon ought to come with a vivarium smaller species" got a neat way of being illustrated

Gabriel Ugueto (@serpenillus.bsky.social)

Selected species of Dimetrodon.

Here are various sketches showing some species of Dimetrodon, which was a quite diverse genus during the Early Permian. The genus includes about a dozen of species

#paleoart #sciart #synapsids

Bluesky · Jan 7, 2026, 3:10 PM

[quick ore]

wait... so which species did WWM use???

[shell sonnet]

Probably one of the larger ones

Those did live in the Triassic as well

[quick ore]

oh ok then we can use that one

[ancient ibex]

WWM was also quite messy

[quick ore]

understatement of the year

[ancient ibex]

Beasts aged the best, Monsters was already iffy at release

[quick ore]

technically walking with cavemen likely aged the best but I never watched that shit

as far as exhibit dicynodonts go I think a good mix would be the large Lystrosaurus species, Placerias w/ an Ischigualastia alt, and Lisowicia

you truly do not need more than that and that would cover all of the bases

[shell sonnet]

Ischigualastia doesn't work as a Placerias alt

[quick ore]

how

[shell sonnet]

Lisowica does though

[quick ore]

they are very close relatives with similar body shapes and proportions

Lisowicia was more upright no?

tbh I also wouldn't mind skipping Lystrosaurus if it meant Ischigualastia, Placerias, and Lisowicia got in the game

especially since we have Diictodon

[tough marsh]

lysatro species skull comparacent

[fiery crow]

Walking with Cavemen is terrifying and easily the scariest show in the Walking with… franchise

[quick ore]

it's terrifying?

tbh I barely know what it is about besides following humans and not showing prehistoric species

like I have all but ignored it my entire life and no one has ever told me it was worth watching

[fiery crow]

most of the hominids in the series are portrayed far more grotesquely and ‘uncanny valley’ appearance-wise

the deaths are frequently disturbingly realistic and some of them are so goddamn sudden they almost qualify as jump scares

[quick ore]

wow

all I ever saw of it was the silly monty python song they did

[fiery crow]

it’s very good (if not kind of cheesy at times because it’s very obvious that our ‘ancestors’ are just people wearing suits) but just keep that in mind before hand

[quick ore]

monsters we met clears

[valid root]

FEATURE PROPOSAL: ANCIENT CROCODILIANS & SEMI-AQUATIC MECHANICS

🐊 NEW SPECIES: THE ANCIENT GIANTS

1. Deinosuchus rugosus (The Terror Crocodile)

• Description: A massive relative of the alligator from the Late Cretaceous.
• Gameplay: Requires deep water and large basking areas. Can occasionally snatch small dinosaurs or guests too close to the water's edge.

2. Sarcosuchus imperator (The SuperCroc)

• Description: One of the largest crocodyliforms ever, with a long, specialized snout.
• Gameplay: High-appeal predator that needs a specialized "River Habitat" with flowing water mechanics.

3. Kaprosuchus saharicus (The BoarCroc)

• Description: A terrestrial crocodilian with tusks, built for running on land.
• Gameplay: A unique "Land-Croc" that doesn't require as much water but needs high-security fencing due to its speed.

🌊 NEW MECHANICS: SEMI-AQUATIC MANAGEMENT

• Basking Zones: Animals need specific temperature-controlled sand or rock banks to regulate their body heat.
• Water Depth Tool: New brush to create deep-water zones necessary for large crocodilians to submerge.
• Aquatic Feeders: Floating carcass feeders and underwater dispensers to encourage natural hunting behaviors.

[fiery crow]

is this more Gemini AI slop like last time

[ancient ibex]

Humans are still prehistoric species, and treating humans as utterly detached from nature is a mistake that keeps being made within nature documentaries

It also has Gigantopithecus

[quick ore]

your description of Kaprosuchus is entirely inaccurate

it wasnt a land croc

[quick ore]

i didnt mean it like that

[fiery crow]

it’s AI slop like last time

[ancient ibex]

My bad

[quick ore]

can we report someone for AI slop

[fiery crow]

I can try

[fiery crow]

<@&181496074169614336> this guy has posted AI slop like this not just once but twice #1360542295228944414 message

[digital pendant]

Dont tag moderators for this stuff again

Its just text

And i believe that user has said they don't speak english and only use gemini for translation

Is not perfect for sure, but is not hurting anyone dont be so dramatic

[coarse inlet]

Yeah this would be a great vivarium species

Though Brusatte is kind of wrong it’s only a couple rhabdodonts not the whole clade

[mint creek]

Zalmoxes suggestions for the next few weeks

[tulip umbra]

Jan 7th, Ankylorhiza Tiedemani. The dolphin from your nightmares, it is the largest toothed whale from the Oligocene. It was initially described as a species of Squalodon all the way back in 1887 on the basis of a partial snout. However later finds of a nearly complete skeleton warranted its reassignment to its own genus, Ankylorhiza, in 2020. Its most horrifying trait are its forward facing incisors, which could have potentially been used for infraspecific combat or ramming its prey, a tactic modern orcas employ.

[fiery crow]

FUCK YEAH

I learned about this dude thanks to ExtinctZoo
he is UNBELIEVABLY badass

[tulip umbra]

Our resident mod Natures Compendium also has a great vid covering Ankylorhiza i suggest anyone checks it out if you haven’t already.

[grim lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-godzilla-vs-mechagodzilla-ii-super-mechagodzilla-mechagodzilla-mega-buster-beam-gif-23391743

[grim lagoon]

Maybe it could be a supersignal for mates

[grim lagoon]

I bet they were silly guys like moderm orcas

https://youtube.com/shorts/oHtFFdLEU60?si=AkVB0E_bEQ4kY1M0

[valid root]

Sorry, yes, but it's for the translation, and also I'm dyslexic, sorry again, and I'm trying to use Gemini less, and in a few posts I won't use AI, sorry again.

[shell sonnet]

Zalmoxes position isn't settled and I think they only tested the holotype. More work needs to be done.

[shell sonnet]

No worries

[digital pendant]

Hey no need to apologize. I know its hard to have dyslexia and try to type on a language you arent proficient

[mint creek]

I wasn't suggesting it, just making a joke about recent news

[digital pendant]

I personally dont find an issue of you using gemini if it helps you communicate more efficiently. Its being put to good use that way 👍

[valid root]

Think you

[cloud nymph]

Damn

I am a bad person, so I cannot participate in this survey

[coarse inlet]

Only one of these is definitely a nodosaurid

[oak lion]

nice! I could argue That the great auk would make an awesome full exhibit species though

[flint sable]

ye

I just added a little note to that actually

basically the main reasons i put it as a viv are

-about the same size as some other vivs (simosuchus) (other larger animals are already in it like tiktaalik)

-complex animations that could probably not be reused by other species, even extinct penguins would have a hard time due to the unique way auks swim

-lack of underwater viewing

this is also taking into consideration it would very likely be the first, or one of the first DLC's released for the game

[oak lion]

this is true, however arguably it'd be worth the effort! the devs have already made unique rigs before (ie gallimimus, though of course we will see how that plays out in the long run...)

but also due to the fact it's a sea bird, it'd likely require a ton of space. While yes zoo Penguin enclosures for comparison can be decently small, the space provided would likely be a tad tight for 2 auks, even.

[quick ore]

Great Auk would be a great addition in an all-inclusive marine/aquatic dlc in the future. Like not for fully aquatics but for other species that would require underwater viewing and extra animations along with species like champsosaurs, crocs, thalassocnus, etc

[oak lion]

true...

[flint sable]

thats the one major issue is the space, yes

[quick ore]

unless said animations and stuff could come in the full game? since I think Ambulocetus is coming in EA right

[flint sable]

Tiktaalik, Diplocaulus, Sahonachelys are all a lot less active

[flint sable]

correct

at least we think so

not 100% certain but fairly likely

[quick ore]

also, Auks lived in colonies iirc. Not having them in colonies in a zoo would be disappointing

[flint sable]

also I dont nessecarily think the space would be that much of an issue

[oak lion]

we think

[flint sable]

iirc great auks really hated land even moresoe than most modern penguins

[oak lion]

granted the main sucky part would be that with the space you couldn't fit that many...

[flint sable]

ye

I agree there

I just went with what felt the most realistic especially given the resources the dev team had

they could probably do 3 options

[flint sable]

mostly because vivs are apparently signifigantly easier to produce than full habitats

[flat falcon]

And I like vivarium

I mean... I always fascinated by those glass chambers

[oak lion]

oh I bet

[quick ore]

I think it would make the most sense to save the Great Auk for a future aquatic dlc centered around semi-aquatics that adds more animations for them as well as pre-existing semi aquatic species and new exhibit options, similar to PZ's Aquatic dlc pack

[flint sable]

-include it in a later DLC such as a semiaquatic one once underwater viewing and things are added to make it more viable as a habitat animal
-include in RE DLC as a viv
-not include it at all

[flat falcon]

Hopefully more Vivarium species in the future 🙏, preferably aquatic species

[flint sable]

other than the auk, thoughts on the list?

[quick ore]

actually lemme make a dlc idea real quick

[oak lion]

nice!

[flat falcon]

Pardon me, but I just got here. Could you point out where the list is? 😁

[oak lion]

tag me

[flat falcon]

I'm not sure if what I see is the list

[flint sable]

#1360542295228944414 message

starts here, its 2 messages one after the other

[flat falcon]

Thank you very much, appreciate your effort

[slender tangle]

Petition to put Ajkaceratops in the game, after that crazy new paper came out today

[tulip umbra]

U are the first one of many to come who will ask this

[flat falcon]

Whoa nice list

I feel like... It's not always about Dinosaur, i forgot the title of this game is literally prehistoric kingdom 😅

[flint sable]

thx

I dont often sugguest things, but when I do I try and put a lot of effort into em

[toxic oriole]

Well Dinosaurs are very popular, I think more popular than Cenozoic stuff + Mesozoic Mammals or something

Not sure

[flat falcon]

Well since Jurassic Park movie came out, dinosaurs are everyone's favorite

[toxic oriole]

Then again, Mesozoic mammals arent very popular from what I can see

Some are, most arent

[tulip umbra]

Theres just not that many and most of them are small

[quick ore]

Aquatic DLC Concept:

-Great Auk
-Kairuku
-Nothosaurus
-Thalassocnus
-Pezosiren
-Kosmodraco
-Maiacetus
-Jonkeria
-Obdurodon (viv)
-Didelphodon (viv)

[flat falcon]

I like you put my guy Dodo Bird

[flint sable]

there are actually quite a few, most are just abysmal dogshit

[quick ore]

I almost put Hesperornis but given it's a Cretaceous species I think it has better odds than the rest of getting added in a future dlc if those were made, like one focused on the Tethys

[flint sable]

im talking like

not even 1 full tooth abysmal

but mammal teeth are funny like that so apparently its diagnostic

[tulip umbra]

Yea, i just meant notable species

[flint sable]

in that reguard definitely

theres like

5

[toxic oriole]

When it comes to Repenomamus and I believe Didelphodon
Those guys are some of the popular mesozoic mammals, right?

[flint sable]

that are actually notable and not super tiny

[flat falcon]

But tbh, I feel like passenger pigeon is too small to notice

Lemme see the alternative

[toxic oriole]

You can say the same thing about some insects

[flint sable]

repenomamus, volaticotherium, didelphodon, adalatherium, castorocauda

[toxic oriole]

Yet thats not gonna stop people from wanting them in the game, if you ask me

[flat falcon]

Fair point

[flint sable]

about the same size, if not a little smaller than Yi

[tulip umbra]

This is every somewhat notable species i know of

Synapsids account for most of them really

[flint sable]

?

Adalatherium is pretty cool

also maevarano rep for the funny

[toxic oriole]

More madagascar

[flint sable]

oh u put it on there lol

nvm

there is Patagomaia but its pmuch a leg and a half despite its fatness

and its kind of ambiguous as to what it is

not a good pick

for PK

but unique in reguards to paleontology

[flat falcon]

Oh here, Aegisuchus might be a good roster, but I feel like its too big for vivarium

[toxic oriole]

Repenomamus being the dino hunter (presumably)

Didelphodon being the semi-aquatic

Uhhhhhh idk about the other three

[flint sable]

although saying that there is one thing going for it, it lived with Maip

[quick ore]

isn't this debunked

[toxic oriole]

I say presumably

[quick ore]

aside from it eating babies

[flint sable]

no it probably did hunt babies

almost certainly not adults tho

[toxic oriole]

Would microraptor even be a good target for Repenomamus? I don't think so

[flint sable]

also hypothetically could Didelphodon have taken really small dinosaurs, like hypothetically young Archeroraptors or smth

[quick ore]

I mean it was basically a cretaceous otter

[flint sable]

idk if they would be in the size range, didelphodon was about the size of a housecat but built like an otter

so smaller than most modern otters iirc

[quick ore]

even still, small clawed otters can be vicious

depends on how much it acted like one

could have been like a yapok or lutrine opossum perhaps

[fiery crow]

Jonkeria was aquatic?

[quick ore]

semi aquatic apparently

unless I am mistaken it was basically a permian hippo

[toxic oriole]

Not often you see people mention Gargantuavis in this post, though thats mainly because of what someone else might say about the animal in the next few seconds after I post this message

welp
Because there just isnt much of it to go off of, especially for something from Hateg Island thats supposedly between Ostrich + Cassowary size

[quick ore]

It's a bit of a nothingburger unfortunately. It's only hype for what it could be and as it is it isn't really much to go off on. Plus, its general appearance is shared with multiple other bird groups which have much more material to use.

[fiery crow]

aren’t Kolponomos and Jakapil the same way

[quick ore]

yup

[fiery crow]

uhhh

• Andrewsarchus (unsure)
• Ostafrikasaurus
• Oxalaia

[flint sable]

andrew in the same boat as kolonomos pmuch

both a skull

also dont forget some of the worst offenders being Erythrovenator and Cryptyrannus

[quick ore]

or Balaur

[flint sable]

top 10 most complete theropods ever

[fiery crow]

the only time I wouldn’t consider a single literal fucking tooth not fragmentary is in the case of cartilaginous fish

considering they don’t fossilize well there’s not a lot that can be done

[flint sable]

its not that bad in mammals relatively speaking IMO since apparently we have really distinctive teeth, especially compared to something like reptiles

[quick ore]

yeah most of mammal paleontology is dealing with teeth

but the good thing is mammal teeth can tell us a lot about them

[fiery crow]

Nanuqsaurus is extremely fragmentary too right

[median relic]

the cryptyrannus tooth fragment keeps appearing it was in my beverage when I felt a crunch then I saw it after getting off of the toilet, it speaks to me telepathically and forces me to wear its name

help me

[fiery crow]

Since you brought up Ankylorhiza, I think Thecachampsa americana, a gavialoid crocodilian that Ankylorhiza might’ve preyed on, would also be a great rep for non-Mesozoic crocodile relatives.

[tough marsh]

I mean kinda just looks like one but I’m unsure if there’s evidence to back it up

[quick ore]

on wikipedia it talked about their bone density and stuff

[tough marsh]

I’ll look into it I have a paper

Ohh there’s

[quick ore]

ooooo lmk what u find

[eager thunder]

Is there any good extinct hippos that could be added actually? Like relatives or something

[quick ore]

malagasy hippos

[eager thunder]

And they’re from Madagascar !

[tough marsh]

My main issue is I’ve seen litterally every synapsid group put as semi aquatic

[quick ore]

maybe Anthracotheres?

[tough marsh]

I’ve seen aquatic Inostransivia

[quick ore]

what 💀

[tough marsh]

2012 paper

[eager thunder]

Those are visually more distinct

Would be cool

[tough marsh]

May I ask

[eager thunder]

I do want more weird Cenozoic mammals that fill those sorta classic zoo spaces

[tough marsh]

What Biarmosuchian would you want in PK

[quick ore]

um, looking at the list on wikipedia none of the options are jumping out at me

[wary nacelle]

Fruitadens for a vivarium herbivore (or frugivore for that but I don’t think that may be realistic apparently)

[tulip umbra]

Not that many great options, i just have Biarmosuchus itself

[tough marsh]

Hipposaurus

[tough marsh]

It’s the largest

That’s fair

It’s around 2 meters

[toxic oriole]

Talk about learning about a new dino!

One of the smallest ornithiscians or something

[fiery crow]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dinosaurs/images/8/80/Iharkuto-Foxemys-oz3bqpmijakrommdg8ch58dglcsn4ar0q96kp0pm2o.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20220123110127

Iharkutosuchus makadii, an extremely bizarre eusuchian crocodyliform from Late Cretaceous Hungary. Similarly to Simosuchus, palaeontologists believe it may have been a herbivore - though unlike Simosuchus, palaeontologists believe it may have been amphibious like most crocodilians. With how small it is, I think it would make a great vivarium species.

[harsh oxide]

turtle croc 🐢

speaking of turtle-like critters, henodus could be a cool aquarium addition

[sharp dock]

HENOUDS!

[harsh oxide]

uintatherium is a must!!

[mint creek]

Hell yeah

[sharp dock]

Eomys mentioned

[tulip umbra]

Jan 8th, two for one, Mesolimulus Walchi & Austrolimulus Fletcheri. While Trilobites might be kings of popularity, the Xiphosurans are kings of survival. Having first evolved in the early Ordovician, the group has triumphed every Mass Extinction event in earths history.
Mesolimulus Walchi (Middle Jurassic - Germany) is most notable for its fossil trackway that tells a sad and dreadful story. Aptly called the death march, it depicts the final struggle of a Mesolimulus that fell down into an anoxic environment, spelling its demise.

Austrolimulus Fletcheri (Middle Triassic - Australia) has the most unique shape in the group, bearing almost wing like spines thought to be an adaptation for moving in currents or to make it harder for predators to grasp. These animals are definitely pushing the smallest size limit, but could possibly still work with touch tanks for example.

[ancient ibex]

That's a Kabutops

[shell sonnet]

I still say the Pokemon Company not releasing its own Pokemon zoo game is an abject failure.

The name Safari Zone is right there.

[flint sable]

for refference, newborn tyrannosaurus chicks weighed about 5kgs

so that means that hypothetically they could have eaten them on rare occasions

[fiery crow]

I’ve always found horseshoe crabs to be strangely cute.

[quick ore]

I think Andrewsarchus would be a mistake personally

replace it with something else like Celebochoerus

[peak hazel]

I'd like Andrewsarchus

is there something I'm missing here

[shell sonnet]

We don't have much of it

There's been a long history of trying to figure out where to place it that makes it difficult to reconstruct.

[peak hazel]

I see

[left spear]

It's fine as an alt ig

But defenetly not a "main" species

[slim flare]

Why not?

[quick ore]

there's way better choices than a species that we don't even have a jaw for

[abstract compass]

so i guess in your opinion barina is not viable.

[quick ore]

Barina has a jaw lol

[tulip umbra]

Wouldnt even know what to make it an alt of, cuz we dont know where it places in the tree

[quick ore]

and close relatives that give us a good idea of what it looked like

[abstract compass]

barina is half a head.

okay maybe not half but

[quick ore]

we Know that Barina was a large predatory sebecid

[abstract compass]

incomplete. very incomplete.

[quick ore]

with Andrewsarchus we barely know how it would have lived or looked

[slim flare]

Leaellynasaura:

[tulip umbra]

Ppl really need to stop bringing up Leaellyna…

[slim flare]

Why

[tulip umbra]

It got in for the tail and that alone

[quick ore]

it's a small ornithopod it isn't some crazy mystery

[slim flare]

The tail that may be from a different species

[tulip umbra]

If it was just half the jaw, aint no way leaellyn had made it

[shell sonnet]

So Zalmoxes and Ferenceratops are now viable

[tulip umbra]

Devs chose to assign it, their decision

[shell sonnet]

Correction, it's because of WWD

[slim flare]

We don’t know what Zalmoxes even is

[quick ore]

Andrew is literally Potential Species

[shell sonnet]

Same with Andrew

[slim flare]

Andrewsarchus has at least settled to being some sort of basal entelodont, no?

Or stem-entelodont, idk

[quick ore]

0 postcrania
0 close relatives
70+ years without new material

[slim flare]

If it’s more controversial then I thought, then yeah, I can see avoiding it

[abstract compass]

people seem to argue in bad faith and their opinions are exclusively different to animals in same situations

[slim flare]

I agree

[abstract compass]

entelodont-closely related to my understanding. so we have references.

[quick ore]

"same" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here

[abstract compass]

Ivy its okay to be biased. thats just common.

[peak hazel]

I think the devs could put any creature in and it'd look nice
but if we can't confidenly place Andrew it probably isn't worth it

[quick ore]

Andrew is in its own family

[abstract compass]

its own clade which closely ties to Entelodontids.

[tulip umbra]

Google Andrew and u will find 10 different depictions

[peak hazel]

I like the ark one a lot

[slim flare]

But most of those are old or just inaccurate

[quick ore]

my main argument isn't even that it would be a bad choice, it's that it is a bad choice surrounded by better options

[tulip umbra]

Yea, cuz there is so much confusion on what it is. Thats the point

[abstract compass]

i would love to see the PK devs do Andrewsarchus the way they would do it. Because every animal they add is pretty well made and interesting, creative.

[abstract compass]

wasnt what we were discussing but the goalpost moves nonetheless.

[peak hazel]

probably best to prioritse a different Entelodont or similar animal

[slim flare]

I mean, yeah

[peak hazel]

but it'd be cool to see eventually

[quick ore]

this isnt moving goalposts i literally said it from the start

[slim flare]

Daeadon or whatever is definitely a better choice

But like for a second or third one, Andrewsarchus is probably fine

[shell sonnet]

Daeadon would be the best, White River has a lot of good animals

[quick ore]

Daeodon would be goated

[tulip umbra]

Andrew is bottom of my list, its an animal that got popular based on an entirely speculative design.

[digital pendant]

Daeodon with another entelodontid as an alt would be dope

[slim flare]

Not really? It got popular because it’s skull is massive

[peak hazel]

the recent andrewsarchus designs I've seen have been far more consistent then a lot of older ones

but I think thats just because its got a more solid placement

[quick ore]

plus there are better giant cenozoic mammalian carnivores like Megistotherium

[peak hazel]

oh that would be cool

[mint creek]

Same

[quick ore]

or Proborhyaena

[proper raven]

Andrewsarchus my beloved

would love to see an interesting depiction of a really early whippomorph

would it have hooves? idk

[shell sonnet]

Which do we have more of Paraentelodon or Entelodon

[left spear]

It should be a sebucus alt

And besides Barina is way more solid than andrew

Sebecus+Barina+Ibero

All sebecian size ranges represented

[plush nacelle]

It wasnt particulary speculative, because it was entirely based on something else

I think WWB one is simply mesonyx upscaled

[eager thunder]

If we could put any pinniped in game what would it be?

I really want a pinniped

Silly creatures

[tulip umbra]

U got a couple good picks in pinnipeds

[left spear]

There's only 2 or 3 but those 2 or 3 are all great

[tulip umbra]

Id argue theres a couple more

Like 4-5

[shell sonnet]

Depends if you go mini as well

[eager thunder]

I duno what F or G are but I like those

Acrophoca longirostris Muizon and Gomphotaria pugnax apparently

[tulip umbra]

Those arent to scale are they?

[eager thunder]

Not sure

Oh Pontolis Magnus tho

This thing was massive

[digital pendant]

we got a lot from paralentelodon but is all being studied. A smaller entelodont would be a cooler alt imo

[peak hazel]

Archaeotherium?

I don't know if thats very small but its an option isn't it

[digital pendant]

Entelodon proper would be nice to add along P. transouralicum

[ancient ibex]

For a wolf-like animal

Which it wasn't

[eager thunder]

Oh yeah Dire Wolves

I still can cope for them

[left spear]

Why cope

[peak hazel]

dire wolf will be added eventually

[left spear]

Unless the game flops they're coming

[eager thunder]

I mean for EA

[left spear]

Probably a DLC but still

Eh

Things come eventually

No need for impatience

[eager thunder]

I do really hope this game is successful

But if it somehow stops here I’d like dire wolves is all

Then again maybe this game would have some super dedicated modding community or something

I really do hope it succeeds

The devs deserve that

[shell sonnet]

I was just asking because I wanted something that wasn't from NA.

[digital pendant]

yeah for sure

Entelodon proper would be good for that role

smaller in size and would add to an existing formation

[low bridge]

Simbakubwa too

[low bridge]

Archaeotherium is the best for small alt

[digital pendant]

yeah but its another north american entelodont

Daeodon is similar in size to Archaeo and its from Asia

[shell sonnet]

Huh, I actually can't find any evidence Entelodon was at Hsanda Gol.

[eager thunder]

What about Mongolonyx?

Those things where fairly big

[shell sonnet]

It lived with P.transouralicum, just not there

[digital pendant]

meant to say entelodon

[tulip umbra]

So yesterday i fell into the rabbit hole of rays

These are what i found

[slim flare]

God ray

[left spear]

Lessiniabatis is extremely amusing to me

Just a pancake of cartilage and helplesness

[tulip umbra]

My fav is prob promyliobatis, its so cute

[left spear]

Tiny guy

Wait a day or two until someone suggests Aetobatus

[median glen]

I suggest speculative evolution species like land dwelling sharks

[quick ore]

Respectfully, what kind of game do you think this is?

[median glen]

Zoo

[quick ore]

This game is about having a zoo with prehistoric species in it, the animal you posted is a work of speculative evolution. That's like requesting something from Kaimere.

[quick ore]

the game is called Prehistoric Kingdom

[median glen]

It's like, a prehistoric alternative evolution species

[quick ore]

the animal above is neither from prehistory, nor is it real in any sense

[peak hazel]

I think we need this obscure creature instead

[quick ore]

Yeah it's speculative evolution, it's an entirely made up animal. That's like requesting the tree creepers or terrestrial silurian scorpions from Primeval

[median glen]

Ok

[peak hazel]

the scorpions were cool though

I hope some modder decides to add them eventually it'd be hilarious

[quick ore]

again though, for modding there's zero issue

but this game isn't adding made up animals that never existed

[mint creek]

Post from one of the devs today, I think it's got a decent shot of making it into the game

[peak hazel]

theres no way

[peak hazel]

what about this one

I think its too obscure personally
everyone will just see it in the trailer and be confused

[shell sonnet]

Devs lie

[quick ore]

Again like, is this a joke suggestion?

[peak hazel]

most likely

mine are completely serious though

[lean hound]

https://tenor.com/view/jebaited-low-quality-bait-wavy-man-gif-26402013

[peak hazel]

Penta would be good

[median glen]

Chasmosaurus is cool too

[tulip umbra]

Clearly, this isnt the first time either haha

People seem to keep getting triggered by it everytime tho

[median glen]

They're not fully wrong do, I swear never to suggest something not real again

[toxic oriole]

Torosaurus too, yet I don't mind getting other ceratopsians first

[median glen]

it's been a long time with no new ceratopsian

[eager thunder]

I feel like we have all the good ceratopsians