Community Species Suggestions

[grim lagoon]

All are plesiosauria, but Plesiosaurus isn't part of the Pliosaurs

[tulip umbra]

The plesiosaurs, pliosaurs and rhomaleosaurs are all sister to eachother. Them being in Plesiosauria doesnt mean anything, its just what was named first

[grim lagoon]

Yeah, but the similar name is what was confusing me

[toxic oriole]

Pronouncing them is one thing

[tulip umbra]

Which penguins? I think Inkayacu is a must have, we even know its colors which are cool asf

[toxic oriole]

Pronouncing them is simple

[toxic oriole]

I know well the Great Auk would be one of them

[grim lagoon]

Thanks

[toxic oriole]

Then again, Great Auk could probs be in that Recently Extinct Species DLC, unless something else was there

or if it went extinct a longer while ago

Eh, aurochs would be added to the DLC anyways

[tulip umbra]

Not technically a penguin but sure, this is Inkayacu and we knew it had this color

[toxic oriole]

Red belly

[grim lagoon]

There has to be a reference to this guy

[toxic oriole]

Added to the list of extinct animals we have a good idea on what they looked like when they were alive

Microraptor being one of them

[grim lagoon]

Wouldn't great auk be too big?

[grim lagoon]

https://youtu.be/tvMrACaQjlw?si=xK_Dg_6RFYBGh-cK

[grim lagoon]

Wait it is smaller than I tought

[toxic oriole]

It shares a similar predicament with the Dodo anyways

In the size department

Though thats because of the factors of Mauritius

at the time

[tulip umbra]

Devs will have to make a choice on whether to keep it for a diving update or stick it in vivs

Or cut it ig 😭

[toxic oriole]

Eh, assuming the paludariums get a boreal side to them and features that'd make the birds comfy

[grim lagoon]

Diving update?

[toxic oriole]

My local zoo has a few of those paludariums

Has otters

Puffins too

[tulip umbra]

Diving mechanics for say crocs or spino for example are not the same as full aquarium animals like sharks etc

It does make it much more likely though

[grim lagoon]

True

[toxic oriole]

Then again, the puffins there are coastal ones

Rocky shores

[tulip umbra]

They could def expand the current vivariums, in terms of environment

[toxic oriole]

local zoo moment

[tulip umbra]

Im glad my local zoo is the largest one in all of europe or so ive heard

[toxic oriole]

Google maps photo since I couldn't go there myself at this time...
The uhhh

Otter paludarium

[proper maple]

not to brag guys but this is my local zoo

[tulip umbra]

My local zoo

[hollow furnace]

Point defiance zoo is a pretty epic zoo tbh, small but mighty

[toxic oriole]

They had hammerheads

The hammerheads had died

Don't know why, but they died

[hollow furnace]

Local zoo

[toxic oriole]

Alright, THIS is the paludarium I was talking about

If coastal paludariums and/or boreal variants exist, and they implement extinct puffins and/or penguins...

And they had something like this...

[eager thunder]

Did someone mention mega Penguin

[toxic oriole]

Yes I did

[eager thunder]

YIPPPEEEEE

I agree

[tulip umbra]

Which ones u picking?

[toxic oriole]

Would this paludarium be a good exhibit for a Great Auk or any extinct penguin or penguin-like bird?

The picture above

[eager thunder]

Palaeeudyptes klekowskii

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1MCjb7pYMYgYRsBpE2OmWzTbR6IryQk3YpWyGEWXckbxIxq2ixqQXY7IJntfDpLJcH5DUlmMcoOb_fORTBzeCc2aI__VKpkGvlzFr6ZmCPg&s=10 big ass

[toxic oriole]

... Okay thats a bit TOO big

MAKE IT AN EXHIBIT ANIMAL!

[eager thunder]

Ye

[tulip umbra]

Great Auk, sure but give them a way up cuz they cant fly

[toxic oriole]

Oh the birds that are in the paludarium DO have a way up

[tulip umbra]

Nr2?

[eager thunder]

Is the Auk even technically a penguin?

[tulip umbra]

Nope

[eager thunder]

Isn’t that a puffin or something

[toxic oriole]

I'm considering it one even if it isnt one

[eager thunder]

??

[toxic oriole]

... Puffin

[eager thunder]

I’m stupid ok

[toxic oriole]

Alright then, we placing the Great Auk in the Puffin paludarium!

[tulip umbra]

Wheres Inkayacu??

We know its colors and theyre sick as hell

[toxic oriole]

What was the environment like for Inkayacu?

[eager thunder]

I looked it up it was in the same family at least

[tulip umbra]

It was in reply to dinobetes, but uh im not sure what environment

[eager thunder]

Ima have to look this one up

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIBELmPz_Fq-r1dvTa3ZHhd1hgGAV2VeN_m4evZ12wSFry6Q0joOqwH_K_UTAHGo8OCkuFnRvs0bEhbysQs9uxB0x1kI2NSNZp4LDI-ByTZw&s=10 well I’ll be you learn something new and cool everyday

[tulip umbra]

U dont know Inkayacu… fake penguin lover jkjk

[eager thunder]

I’m not quite as familiar with the larger world of extinct animals

For a while it was exclusively dinosaurs and such

[tulip umbra]

Well here u go, Inkayacu def a must have alt for one of the giant species

[eager thunder]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQCrb6h7aLdwUd6VNDsYb62cAEVdrwy2B7PooZOIlcqXN8fi4IMP2ENz7pAB41Ftxft6E3AJQzbwYqZDXykgjgXJMuqisDAaR-iq-lDkA&s=10 my look at all these distinguished gentlemen

[tulip umbra]

3 needs a diet

[eager thunder]

I love him

Wild description

[peak hazel]

Aren't these all good options

[cosmic cosmos]

yes lol

[cosmic cosmos]

deino is speculated for EA

[tulip umbra]

Jan 3rd, Regaliceratops peterhewsi. Known solely from a complete skull it comes from late cretaceous Canada, where it lived with Pachyrhinosaurus, Edmontonia, Albertosaurus and more. It sported probably one of the most unique frills in the family and is a ceratopsid worth considering later down the line in pk’s development.

[vast berry]

I have Stomatosuchus as a backup

[low bridge]

Raptorex ain't real

[left spear]

Anything is real if you wish enough

[shell sonnet]

That's some Disney ass logic there

[low bridge]

Raptorex is Scientifically not Real, Nomen Dubium

[left spear]

Seems like you don't wish enough

[low bridge]

If U want 2 for U so Have "Gore King" and "Devil Horned Face"

🫡

[low bridge]

Peter the Regali is here

[plush nacelle]

Oh mighty EZ

What is the best boreal vivarium mammal

[low bridge]

This Poll looks decent

[cosmic cosmos]

TENO PEAK!!!

dibble second pick

[low bridge]

No One Noticed Diplodocus because it is invisible

[low bridge]

I want to see the Devil in Prehistoric Kingdom

Diabloceratops

[low bridge]

Deinosuchus is good but Not as good as Sarcosuchus

[steep tulip]

Deinosuchus sells more I think

Unfortunately I think the devs will have to make it like a more regular crocodilian otherwise it wouldn't work without diving

[ancient ibex]

And on top of that, pliosaurs are a plesiosaur subset

Derp, already addressed, discord betrayed me lol

[gusty patrol]

Hot take: No more new dinosaurs for a while. Please focus more on non-dinosaur animals, particularly those from the Palaeozoic and early Cenozoic.

We've got plenty of dinos for now, and I believe Prehistoric Kingdom should represent plants and animals from all Phanerozoic time periods and as many clades as possible!

[cosmic cosmos]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1337298453734359063/1455127566011859080/togif.gif

[rigid spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/marmota-cooking-hold-up-gif-5382607284931131048

[steep tulip]

I mean it's a valid opinion lol

But we will see quite few other dinos

Stego allo bary utah are all confirmed

And pachycephalosaurus, carnotaurus are also probably coming as well
And edmontonia

[rigid spindle]

I'd say an even mix of dinos and non-dinos per update is better than all non-dinos

[steep tulip]

If we got the rest correctly

[gusty patrol]

Sorry for wanting diversity and representation of multiple clades and time periods, I guess 🤷‍♂️

[steep tulip]

That leaves 3 mammals, one croc and one bird plus maybe some more vivarium paleozoic stuff

(Ik birds are dinosaurs but considering its from the cenozoic it counts imo)

[rigid spindle]

I'd personally like to see some of the new clades added in this update get fleshed out over time

[left spear]

Even then, Snakes are lizards but you wouldn't count them as such in this game, Birds are different enough to be their own category of animals from a roster perspective

[vast berry]

Godly Animal Pack:

• Lokiceratops (named after the Norse God of Mischief)
• Quetzalcoatlus (named after the Mesoamerican Serpent Deity)
• Balaur (named after a multi-headed dragon from Romanian folklore)
• Zupaysaurus (named for Supay, the Incan god of the underworld)
• Oksoko (named for a mythical three-headed eagle in Eastern European folklore)
• Livyatan (named after the biblical Leviathan)
• Citipati (named after Buddhist lords of the cemetery)

[fiery crow]

https://tenor.com/view/sybau-ts-pmo-gif-2102579015947246168

[cosmic cosmos]

no more dinosaurs is such a silly request tho, we dont need to drop dinos for other stuff. just balance it out in each update

an even amount of each would still be good

[shell sonnet]

Dinosaurs, at the end of the day, will still be the main draw for a lot of people.

[hollow flower]

This is pretty dumb and thats coming from someone who never suggests dinosaurs

[cinder token]

While I wouldn’t say no more dinosaurs wholesale, some more non-Mesozoic fauna would be nice.

I’ve been looking over Trilogy of Life fanfics and Prehistoric Park fanfics (and writing one of the latter myself), and there’s a lot of weird and wonderful fauna to work with.

So, here is my next set of suggestions:
1 Largd Early Mammal - either a Pantodont or a Mesonychid. Something that could act as a starter creature. For Pantodonts, I’d say either Barylambda or Coryphodon, while the mesonychid representative would be either Mesonyx, Mongolestes, or Pachyaena.
1 Dinoceratan. Uninteresting for the win
1 Brontothere. Megaceropz/Embolptherium are the obvious choices.
1 Marsupial. Australian megafauna needs representation!
1 Canid. I really want a borophagid in-game, but Protocyon would be nice consolation.
1 herbivorous bird. Gastornis has been teased, but mihirungs are also an option.
1 Pinniped - so Ambulocetus is not lonely.
1 Dinocephalian
1 Temnospondyl
1 Pareisaur
1 Gorgonopsid
1 Therocephalian

[gusty patrol]

I meant no more new dinosaurs for a while, not indefinitely. Just so other time periods and non-dinosaur animals of the Mesozoic can get more representation and to even things out a bit.

[abstract compass]

give me the konk

[desert flame]

I agree that it's not good to focus too much on dinosaurs, but it would be better to at least add some famous and well-known dinosaurs to the game.

However, I would like to see a balance of mammals and other animals added.

[slender tangle]

It seems they already have a rig to use with the simosuchus/diictodon rig, I'd love to see some permian critters like Tiarajudens or Scutosaurus show up

[desert flame]

Since Scutosaurus is a large species, I think there will be some changes in the animation.

[low bridge]

Why 4 looks like he is sick or what

[grim lagoon]

Absolute chonker

[feral cedar]

Carnotaurus, Dimetrodon and quaggas are confirmed. We have reason to suspect Deinosuchus, Megatherium and Doedicurus will be in free updates. We know the aurochs, bluebucks, dodos, and thylacines were considered for the old concept of the RE DLC. Oh, and post-release ideas might’ve included Arctodus, mastodons, and “big and small” Palaeoloxodon species, so the dwarf elephant is kinda likely

[grim lagoon]

No invertebrates yet 🥀

Can't think of any terrestrial arthropod that could fit without an aquatic update besides Arthropleura and maybe Meganeura tho

I don't know a lotnof fossil spiders to have a say

[fiery crow]

uhhhh
I think Gigatitan works

[slender tangle]

A freshwater eurypterid for an amphibious vivarium

Some of the later ones could breathe air

[low bridge]

Beelzebufo eats all this insect bullshit

[grim lagoon]

Know what, I'll take it no matter if too small

Gigatitan too

Just give us some arthropods

Mollusc stuff is mostly aquatic so still a long way before them

[grim lagoon]

Wait they could?

Didn't knew that, yah that would def work

[desert flame]

Carboniferous scorpions and freshwater eurypterids might be added.

[grim lagoon]

I completely forgot the scorpions

Pulmonoscorpius could def work

[slender tangle]

Yeah there's some found in freshwater, and at least one freshwater taxa was found with a set of convergeantly evolved psuedo-lungs, like crayfish and crabs do iirc

[grim lagoon]

Peak

Just peak

I'm happpier now, there's a lot of options for invertebrates

[plush nacelle]

Gigatian prolly bigger than meganeura

[grim lagoon]

Wait fr?

[shell sonnet]

Not by wingspan

[plush nacelle]

Of course, because meganeura is 2 long wings attached to tiny body

But from gameplay perspective gigatian is going to appear bigger

[grim lagoon]

I could see how it is bigger in mass, but meganeurs would def feel bigger

[grim lagoon]

Nice

Ok so we got:

• Arthropleura
• freshwater eurypterids
• Pulmonoscorpius
• Gigatitan
• Meganeura

[slender tangle]

Looked it up, and apparently eurypterids had an air-breathing apparatus more similar to that seen in horseshoe crabs than actual crustacean lungs

[grim lagoon]

How much to we know of extinct lepidoptera?

[grim lagoon]

Oof, but that still means they could venture in land right?

[slender tangle]

Yep

[desert flame]

I've heard that Arthropleura is not possible due to the number of legs, but since they were able to add Titanoboa, I think they can add it in the future..

[grim lagoon]

I hope

[gusty patrol]

I think they should add Manospondylus gigas

[brave pier]

Dynamosaurus better

[grim lagoon]

Nah, Dracorex

[feral cedar]

People do not understand how much we need Agathaumas

[desert flame]

We need DLC.

[fiery crow]

we need Dakotaraptor

[median glen]

I would like an speculative protobat

[wary nacelle]

Okay now we’re leaving this in 2025

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[steep tulip]

yueosaurus 1 vote

https://tenor.com/view/slowdive-cigarette-cig-asian-girl-gif-6827674259418749494

[wary nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/jia-fei-jiafei-jiafeitiktok-gif-24333900

[hard elbow]

I mean, if you wanna get really technical, great auk is the only actual penguin :P

(great auk was the first animal to be called "penguin", and spheniscids got the common name "penguin" fron their resemblance to the great auk)

[wary nacelle]

Kumimanu fodycei should be a no brainer, but also Palaeeudyptes klekowskii could be interesting, considering that it’s the general consensus on the biggest penguin. I couldn’t see them as alternate species though, as Kumimanu is warm weathers and Palaeeudyptes is cold weathered, and they are just too different looking

[quick ore]

it's a way to get pre-Holocene Aotearoa species which is very cool

[tulip umbra]

I dont think its a no brainer, but i think ideally palaeeudyptes klekowskii with a single skin inkayacu alt genus and then kumimanu fordycei as hopefully a second slot.

[wary nacelle]

Inkayacu wouldn’t really make sense as an alt genus for palaeeudyptes

[tulip umbra]

Kairuku, Icadyptes and Anthropornis are also worth taking into consideration, but not the front runners imo

[wary nacelle]

Inkayacu, Kumimanu, and Palaeeudyptes wouldn’t really make sense as an alt genus for any of each other

Which means that they should all be alt genus’s for eachother with no real non-alt genus

[tulip umbra]

Inkayacu needs to be an alt to something cuz they can really only give it one skin

[hard elbow]

Eh

They've given skins to animals with known real life coloration before

I.e psittaco's previous model

Or just multiple interpretations of known coloration

[tulip umbra]

Psitacco has the benefit of having multiple species which would not have been the same color, also dinosaurs have a lot more freedom for skins and patterns compared to mammals

[tulip umbra]

Which animals?

[flint sable]

Megaloceros

two different interpretations of the cave paintings and then another one they essentially made up

[tulip umbra]

The cave paintings dont really depict the actual color though do they?

With Inkayacu we know it had a reddish belly etc, and even then its hard to come up with new skins for penguins

[hard elbow]

Coelodonta also

[tulip umbra]

Id just prefer Inkayacu to be an alt with one skin and give the made up skins to another penguin

[hard elbow]

See the thing is, there's a lot you can do with just the vague description of "reddish belly, blue-gray back"

Like if we only have small patches, which I believe is the case

There's plenty of options

But like, that doesn't mean it couldn't be an alt, either

Hell, entirely possible it doesn't get in at all

Who knows

[hard elbow]

And to properly answer your question, not really, but ultimately it's still a similar situation- extrapolating from incomplete info about an animal's appearance

[tulip umbra]

Dunno if this is to be believed

Its just pretty limiting, for something as limiting as penguins already is. Id just not wanna see 3 different shades of red on Inkayacu, the 2 speculative ones id never use.

[tulip umbra]

the color is probably the most important when it comes to skin diversity in game, which Inkayacu, microraptor etc leave little room for. Having three different patterns with the same color is kinda meh.

The other mammals make it work by using the little leeway they have with the speculative brownish shades.

I wonder what devs would do in Borealopeltas case

[left spear]

That would also mean no skins for REs using that logic

Non-accurate skins are fine

[plush nacelle]

And even then RE animals have very interesting skin options

[hard elbow]

Yeah this is worth remembering

Like there's objectively only one thing they can do with a thylacine or dodo, but that doesn't mean they can't do other skins

[tulip umbra]

Maybe, devs never specified

[hard elbow]

Accurate dodo, retro gray dodo, maybe retro white dodo

[tulip umbra]

At most they make a yellowish thylacine, change up the stripe density etc

[left spear]

Accurate Dodo, stereotypical Dodo and Nicobar pigeon

[hard elbow]

I think it's much more reasonable to assume that animals will have 3 skins as the standard (outside of vivariums)

[left spear]

Thylacines had significant pelt diversity

[hard elbow]

Oh yeah actually Nicobar pigeon dodo would go hard

[plush nacelle]

Golden dodo only

[hard elbow]

Justifiable in universe too

[left spear]

Behold! Raphus!

[hard elbow]

Could make up lore that it's the result of "first-generation" dodo clones that used nicobar pigeons as surrogates

[tulip umbra]

Does pk even have lore of how we recreate animals?

[left spear]

Sometimes

[tulip umbra]

Just giving it the jp stamp is ugh

Filled in gaps with other animals etc

[left spear]

Styracosaurus are mentioned to potentially have genetic irregularities

[left spear]

That specifically i don't think so

[hard elbow]

Psittacosaurus is mentioned to have a high degree of genetic accuracy

[tulip umbra]

Shoulda made it the portal route lol, nigel out there catching them haha

[hard elbow]

And Paracer has some context about how the technology PK uses can't really be used on modern animals like the northern white rhino due to a lack of genetic diversity

like, "this works fine for a zoo but it can't apply to conservation without enough donors"

[hard elbow]

I think the cloning route is fine tbh

And it does a good job justifying "rule of cool" choices

PK doesn't really explain what the gaps are filled with or what "genetic accuracy" really means but I think the implications are there

[left spear]

Until we get them on RE

[plush nacelle]

Now as ceratotherium

[slim flare]

Ceratosaurus 🗣️

[left spear]

Ceratodus 🐟

[plush nacelle]

Ceratops ✅

[tulip umbra]

Ceratogaulus ❤️

[hard elbow]

Ceratoceratus !!

[low bridge]

Sivatherium Maurusium

[frosty torrent]

Astrapotherium and Theosodon

[quick ore]

I would personally prefer Granastrapotherium given it was larger and lived alongside Barinasuchus

[fiery crow]

Granastrapotherium feels like the most likely astrapothere in my opinion

[median glen]

Ez what are your thoughts on speculative protobat for vivariums

[quick ore]

I'm sorry but that's a terrible idea imo

[median glen]

Are you against speculative species, Ivy?

[quick ore]

Absolutely

[fiery crow]

if I wanted a prehistoric bat I’d just ask for Icaronycteris

[quick ore]

There is zero reason to include something like that, especially since there are actual fossil bat species that you could use in vivs instead

This game will never be in any position where adding a made-up species makes more sense than adding a real one

[fiery crow]

I’m as against speculative species getting in as I am against Dakotaraptor getting in

[tulip umbra]

Desmodus best bat, astrapotherium and hilarcotherium best astroaotheres.

[quick ore]

Dubious/Speculative species are the only things I would want to see in game less than an "extinct breed"

[fiery crow]

isn’t Desmodus just a vampire bat…?

[quick ore]

I think they mean the extinct giant species

[toxic oriole]

Desmodus draculae.

Dracula

[low bridge]

Hey, i think that we have good amount of vivarium species so easy to say but for me game should have more Cenozoic mammals and reptiles

[toxic oriole]

Now I do know theres another large primitive bat that isnt a vampire bat, but one that couldn't fly

I forgot the name

[median glen]

Too bad Cenozoic is cooked

[fiery crow]

how

what the fuck are you talking about

the Cenozoic has so many species

[quick ore]

the Cenozoic has a fuckload of options for vivs what

[toxic oriole]

Great Auk is vivarium, or maybe not

[quick ore]

it wasn't primitive

[fiery crow]

I definitely don’t think Great Auk should be vivie.

[quick ore]

it was just more terrestrial

[toxic oriole]

I don't remember the name of said bat though

[tidal flame]

You need to give some context on wha you mean by that

[toxic oriole]

Welll uhhh...

[quick ore]

I feel like the biggest reason why the Great Auk shouldn't be a viv species is because I want to have a colony of them in an exhibit, which vivs don't allow for afaik

[quick ore]

Vulcanops

[toxic oriole]

Bird be quite small, but... Wait isnt this somewhat Deinonychus level height?

[quick ore]

if Psittacosaurus can be an exhibit animal then so can the Great Auk

[tidal flame]

Velociraptor is smaller right?

[toxic oriole]

Yes I changed my mind

now.

[tidal flame]

I also don’t think there’d be an ethical amount of water in a viv

[toxic oriole]

I'm entirely random!

[median glen]

Apparently when I say Cenozoic is cooked it means it's going bad. I tried to say that the devs are cooking 🍳 with the current rooster

[toxic oriole]

You'll need to say it in a different way then

[tidal flame]

Ok ty for context you had me there thinking you hated the selection for the Cenozoic 😭

[fiery crow]

that’s BASICALLY what you made it sound like!

[toxic oriole]

Hmmmm... Could the "Giant Compsognathid" be worth it?

I say "Giant"

Because its not really a giant...

[fiery crow]

I don’t want it

[toxic oriole]

Then again among its own species it is a giant of sorts

Compsognathids

[toxic oriole]

You don't know what it is, do you?

[fiery crow]

I said. I don’t want it.

[toxic oriole]

Too bad you're gonna get it anyways.

:D

[tidal flame]

I feel weird throwing a compsognathid in when it’s under controversy for what’s an adult specimen and not

[toxic oriole]

Fine then... Maybe I'm just ASKING FOR TOO MUCH, a non-vivarium Compsognathid...

[tidal flame]

I feel like longisquama would make the game 5x better it would be the soul reason the game does well on full release

[toxic oriole]

totally unbiased view right there...............

[fiery crow]

I mean
we already have Compy in the game

[tidal flame]

That’s fair

[toxic oriole]

That aint stopping people from wanting MORE

Don't care if "IT BLOATS THE ROSTER!!!"

So what?

[tidal flame]

No such thing as “bloat”

[toxic oriole]

"Unique species" this, UNIQUE SPECIES THAT...

Tired of some animals being shot down in here because "Its not unique" or "You could just get another animal instead"

[fiery crow]

https://tenor.com/view/smilingfriends-spamtopia-adult-swim-pim-charlie-gif-7604976099098653993

[tidal flame]

Exactly why not have everything

[toxic oriole]

Is what some people would say, I imagine

But in reality, theres a large group of people who want a diverse roster, with unique species and not just reskins of other existing animals...

[tidal flame]

I feel as long as we don’t have 10 repeats of the same model we can have a little overlap

[wary nacelle]

Pulmonoscorpius would be a fire vivarium animal lowkey highkey

[toxic oriole]

Knowing how some places tend to have scorpion exhibits...

And knowing how Pulmonoscorpius could be dangerous to anyone if they got stung by it...

[tidal flame]

How about Archelon as a viv species

[wary nacelle]

Tooooo big

[toxic oriole]

They said something about aquatic animals

alongside aerial ones

if the game does well post EA, maybe they'll add that as an expansion

[tidal flame]

No such thing

[toxic oriole]

which would mean we'd probably be getting large aquariums

[wary nacelle]

Odontochelys, if anything, would be a better aquatic turtle for vivariums

[wary nacelle]

For vivariums it would be what?

[toxic oriole]

Paludariums can't get as big as I would like them to

Then again...

Theres not much paludarium animals anyways

[low bridge]

Acinonyx Pleistocaenicus would go Hard

[tidal flame]

It wouldn’t be able to swim but it’d work

Sea world

[toxic oriole]

Again, if the game does well- Y'know what screw it

[wary nacelle]

It’s genuinely not small enough for the largest vivarium

[wary nacelle]

If so it would barely be able to swim

[tidal flame]

Fr?

[toxic oriole]

THIS right here could mean we'd be getting Aquariums

Like, LARGER ones.

[median glen]

I don't see the appeal

[tidal flame]

Nah it’d fit

[wary nacelle]

No it wouldn’t

[toxic oriole]

I know Prehistoric Wildlife is hella outdated

[tidal flame]

It would be depressed however we’d nail a sign up saying murtle the happy turtle

[toxic oriole]

I take it your excuse would be "Titanoboa is in the vivarium"

[median glen]

That thing would need more space to swim than a killer whale

[toxic oriole]

Yet with smaller sea turtles or protostegids...

[wary nacelle]

Smaller sea turtles like odontochelys

[toxic oriole]

Aquatic expansion could definitely be a ticket to gigantic aquariums, or somewhat small aquariums for certain aquatic species

[low bridge]

Yeah, Hyaenodon is better

[toxic oriole]

Take for instance: fish

[tidal flame]

Anyways stupendemys but it can only be put into the smallest arboreal viv

[frosty torrent]

Desmotylus and Tanystropheus Hydroides

[toxic oriole]

Would be way too easy for any predator to kill Tanystropheus on account of its neck

[tidal flame]

Fish refers to almost everything on the planet throughout history

[toxic oriole]

Thank you for reminding me of the "You cant evolve out of a clade" factor

[shy gulch]

REMAINING UPDATE PREDICTIONS 😼
UPDATE 17
Pachycephalosaurus / Stygimoloch (alt genus)
(We already know 4 Allosaurus spp. and 2 Stegosaurus spp.)

UPDATE 18
Baryonyx (We already know this one)
Ambylocetus
Utahraptor (We already know this one)

UPDATE 19
Carnotaurus
Ceratosaurus
Kelenken
Diplodocus
Nothronychus
Edmontia
Megatherium
Doedicurus / Glyptodon (alt genus)
Arthropleura (Vivarium)
Meganeura (Vivarium)
Beezlebufo (Vivarium)

[tidal flame]

A Clint Reptiles quote?

[toxic oriole]

I'm not really sure where that came from to begin with

[frosty torrent]

if im not wrong i think these are the fossils

[coarse inlet]

I mean, that's just a basic rule of cladistics

[fiery crow]

Nothronychus is not coming back

[shy gulch]

Poor boy

[tidal flame]

True

[fiery crow]

I’d prefer we get Therizinosaurus

[toxic oriole]

Therizinosaurus definitely seems like DLC material, so uhhh

Would Segnosaurus be more reasonable?

Not sure

[shy gulch]

Possibly I’m just going off what the devs said about fan favorites coming in the last update

I out nothro cause it was in the orginal 50

[tidal flame]

Honestly most extinct waterfowl are either L or a sub species but there are some goodies in there I’d like to see like pink headed Duck and the giant swan from sicly or whatever island near there

[toxic oriole]

"Nothronychus isnt coming back"
It BETTER COME BACK...

[shy gulch]

Also is there a reason he’s not coming back or is that your preference 😭

[tidal flame]

What happened to it?

[toxic oriole]

I heard something about some people here saying that the devs were uhhh... Not wanting to do anything with it I guess

[tidal flame]

Sounds like mere rumors

Not anything set in stone

[toxic oriole]

I'm going off memory tbh

I just don't remember

[shy gulch]

Interesting 🧐

[toxic oriole]

Someone else might know more on it

Ask around, I guess

[hollow furnace]

Nothronychus killed

Sent to the shadow realm for being too ugly

[fresh ember]

It was scrapped along with a few other dinosaurs.

[tidal flame]

I feel like merriams elk could be a decent addition to RE dlc part 2

[hollow furnace]

(Literally what happened, devs scrapped several animals, Nothro specifically because they thought it was too ugly)

[fresh ember]

For a while, it was made explicitly clear that the cut was permanent, though the develops may or may not have softened on that stance in recent years.

[shy gulch]

Lmao that’s kinda funny

Do we know what other ones they scrapped?

[coarse inlet]

but that's why people like it!

[toxic oriole]

I don't remember

[coarse inlet]

Tenontosaurus, Sauropelta, and Thescelosaurus

Thescelosaurus being the worst one to scrap by far, though Tenonto is also a huge loss

[tidal flame]

Ain’t nooooooo way

[fresh ember]

Just like when K'nuckles was dumped...

[toxic oriole]

Usually whenever I see people suggest Borealopelta, I see people saying:
"You could just add Nodosaurus and give it a RED SKIN and there you go, you got Borealopelta and whatnot."

sounds lazy to me...

[coarse inlet]

Also, that's not what Nodosaurus looked like probably

who knows

it's not a very good fossil

[toxic oriole]

The mummy of Borealopelta, or Nodosaurus' actual fossil?

[coarse inlet]

Nodosaurus lol

[hollow furnace]

Nodosaurus obviously lol

[coarse inlet]

if I was saying that about Borealopelta I'd need to be institutionalized

[tidal flame]

They also could just not add nanotyrannus and say just stop a tyrannosaurs growth at 45 percent and you have it

[toxic oriole]

... yeah but heres the thing.

that was changed in 2025, remember???

the PAPERS...

[tidal flame]

Are we talking about papers for or against?

[hollow furnace]

More or less, wouldn’t be perfectly accurate but would give the general impression

[toxic oriole]

FOR Nanotyrannus

NOT against

[hollow furnace]

There’s a whole document of ontogeny alts

[toxic oriole]

Now Tameryraptor on the other hand

[tidal flame]

Let’s be honest here nanotyrannus is likely to be valid and heavily competed with young tyrannosaurs its whole life

[toxic oriole]

... Because its been recently described since 2025, and because of its bones not existing anymore because of the bomb, and because of stuff

You cant make an ontogeny alt for Tameryraptor

[tidal flame]

Fossils just be getting bombed or something

First spino and tyrannotitan and now this

[toxic oriole]

Wait, Tyrannotitan had its fossils destroyed?

Thats another one to the list, smh...

[fresh ember]

Hey, blame the museum curator at the time for being a literal petty-ass Nazi. He let them get destroyed out of spite.

[tidal flame]

Holotype was bombed with spinosaurus holotype in the same museum I believe

Their in the same picture together

[toxic oriole]

Okay you got something mixed up

That was not Tyrannotitan

Tyrannotitan was found in South America

Meanwhile Spinosaurus was in Africa, alongside Carcharodontosaurus and Tameryraptor

Plus Aegyptosaurus

[tidal flame]

Ok I was too confident in that

Ty for clearing it up

[toxic oriole]

Tameryraptor is essentially THE ORIGINAL CARCHARODONTOSAURUS holotype, but they found more stuff on descriptions of it, and found it to be something else, that being of Tameryraptor.

[fresh ember]

TBH, if the holotype wasn't destroyed, it still would've been Carcharodontosaurus regardless.

[toxic oriole]

Who's to say Tameryraptor and Carcharodontosaurus are closely related animals despite their differences?

[coarse inlet]

they are in the same family but not each other's closest relatives

[toxic oriole]

Yeah fair enough

[tidal flame]

Was it carchardontosaurus that got destroyed with spino?

[fresh ember]

Yes

[coarse inlet]

Though Cau says otherwise

https://doi.org/10.3301%2FIJG.2025.10

[tidal flame]

Ima find a photo

[toxic oriole]

Bahariasaurus was lost, Attenborosaurus was lost, Aegyptosaurus was lost, and Stomatosuchus apparently

Oh wait, I need to double check

Was the holotype fossil of Attenborosaurus destroyed or no?

[tulip umbra]

Yes

WW2 ofc

[fresh ember]

What happened was that, as I've said, the museum curator in Munich was a member of the Nazi regime, and Stromer was a known vocal critic. They knew the Brits were gonna raize the city, so the curator had Stromer's finding set super low on the list of things to prioritize saving. Ultimately, his fossils weren't saved in time.

[toxic oriole]

ofc...

[tulip umbra]

Attenboro does have a cast of the holotype at least its bettier than pictures like tamery

[tidal flame]

Potentially the Tameryraptor or Carcharadontosaurus holotype

[toxic oriole]

Lost and Found DLC

Tameryraptor
Stomatosuchus
Aegyptosaurus
Attenborosaurus
Podokesaurus
Santanaraptor
Seeleyosaurus
Bahariasaurus

Yeah I ran out of picks, and I went digging for more lost ones...

Theres a Plesiosaur, a Long Necked Pliosaur, a Crocodylomorph, a Coelophysoid, a Sauropod, an indeterminate theropd...? (Baharia), a coelurosaurian, and a Carcharodontosaurid

Don't know if there are any better picks of LOST ONES that would take any animal on that list

... obviously leaving out Bruhathkayosaurus

[tidal flame]

Doesn’t it compete with argent for largest sauropod?

[toxic oriole]

While that may be true, theres just one problem

Its fossils are gone, AND people question if it even exists because the fossils were lost.

Plus they havent found anything else of the titan.

And some thought it was a Tree

Somewhat controversial sauropod

[tidal flame]

What happened to them?

[toxic oriole]

Some say a typhoon had hit the museum they were stored in

Others say the fossils had just simply disintegrated on their own

I've no memory on which ones true

[hollow furnace]

Disintegrated on their own

[toxic oriole]

And some people question how thats even possible, for fossils to quite literally turn to dust

Many ways for it to occur, yes?

[hollow furnace]

The fossils from the site Bruhathkayosaurus are notoriously fragile and prone to damage, water saturates the bones and then causes them to break apart as they dry

[toxic oriole]

All thats left are pictures of the fossils before they disintegrated, yes?

or were those fossils already in the process of disintegration by the time pictures were taken?

[hollow furnace]

Yes

[tidal flame]

If only dinosaurs drank their milk their fossils would’ve been stronger and not like a crumbl cookie

How edible are fossils?

On a scale from not good to yummy

[hard elbow]

Forget about adding another "candidate for largest sauropod", I want small sauropods

Also mamenchisaurs

But fr if we get like another fucking titanosaur like Patago or Alamo before Mamenchi, Niger, etc, I'm rioting

nothing wrong with titanosaurs, mind you, I just dunno what else you can do with them that Argent doesn't already do

[tidal flame]

I really love small sauropods and hopefully we find a species that has experienced island dwarfism

[hard elbow]

Isn't that the running theory on europasaurus

[tidal flame]

Was literally about to suggest it

There’s also magyarosaurus which is relatively small

[hard elbow]

Paludititan also works

[tidal flame]

Seems pretty similar to magy from the paleo art

[hard elbow]

Yeah there's some overlap in remains I think

I vaguely recall something about magyaro being slightly dubious or something

But I might be misremembering

But either way one island dwarf sauropod would be a banger

[tidal flame]

I think Europasaurus would be your best bet

Might be my favorite sauropod as well but I’m sure there’s others I don’t know about

[coarse inlet]

it's been a wastebasket for a while

[flint sable]

its roughly the same dimensions as Simosuchus

it makes the most sense

realistically

[fiery crow]

agree to disagree

[toxic oriole]

Fair enough

[fiery crow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obamus

[safe willow]

an animal of all time

[quick ore]

(this isnt a serious suggestion right)

[fiery crow]

(not at all lmao)

[quick ore]

good lol

[rare citrus]

Anomalocaris as a vivarium creature

[tulip umbra]

Jan 4th, Thalassodromeus Sethi. Stemming from early cretaceous Brazil, it is not too distantly related from the popular Tapejara, but is notably much larger than it. Its huge crest allows for a lot of creative freedom in terms of skin design and there is potential for its slightly smaller, rounder crested, contemporary relative Tupuxuara to be an alt genus.

[left spear]

Thalasso also has a very unique ecology

Essentially a hawk

How is not something we concretely have in any other pterosaur

[grim lagoon]

Could other human species appear as statues?

I doubt that even the more early species would be an animal themselves because that would be... Dubious ethics at best

But I rhink statues would work as a reference

[coarse inlet]

Closer to secretary bird from what I’ve heard. Hunting on the ground

[plain knoll]

Vivarium critters

Arthropleura
Pulmonoscorpius
Gigatitan
Titanomyrma
Trilobite
Meganeura
Anomalocaris

[peak hazel]

Utahraptor in the wetlands update would be strange

[plain knoll]

Replace Utah from upd 18 to Deinosuchus

Ceratosaurus 🔁 Utahraptor
Northronychus 🔁 Therizinosaurus

[shy gulch]

oooh that could also be very likely

I like that

[gusty patrol]

I love how the little Sinosauropteryx is preening itself 🥺

[gusty patrol]

There are over 22,000 known and described trilobite species, which one?

[gusty patrol]

We need Ediacaran biota though 😭

[plain knoll]

Any kind

[plush nacelle]

Unlikely for U19 to have more habitat species than 6 + alt or two

Pretty much remaining herbivores and both insectivores are vivariums

[outer moth]

It is
The scrapped 4 have only been “reshuffled” according to devs

[amber field]

some how Cambrian has appear in dilo bug , I assume it will come at some point

[eager thunder]

I now hope we get a Guanlong

[cosmic cosmos]

if deino is coming as a proper semi i can see this being exhibit, or post EA with aquatics and a proper semi system

[wary nacelle]

I agree

Yes perfect vivarium creature

[grim lagoon]

The list grows! Sadly I think we will have to wait for properly aquariums for Anomalocaris

[plain knoll]

Yup kinda like a new type of vivarium called Aquatic would be nice

[grim lagoon]

Def

[cloud nymph]

Hmm

Crab

[grim lagoon]

It's similar to the small list we made here before too

Of invertebrates for vivariums

Trilobite and Titanomyrma are fine additions

[grim lagoon]

CRAB

Hmm, we could add crabs too

[cloud nymph]

Yea I am not well versed with prehistoric fauna so I got no suggestions

I just want crab

[left spear]

Not a crab but Dollocaris should be close enough

[grim lagoon]

I love the Thylacocephaleans, but I think they would be too small

[left spear]

Dollo is 20cm long

On the smaller side but longer than Sahona

[cloud nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-family-guy-peter-perhaps-peter-perhaps-gif-24813812

[grim lagoon]

Wait, that's a good size

I thought they were all smaller

[left spear]

Most are

Dollo is a monster in comparaison

[tulip umbra]

?

You just call those aquariums lol

[desert flame]

The semi-aquatic mammals Ambulacetus will be added, but I'd like to see Pakicetus and Pezosirenes added too.

[plain knoll]

😭Yeah kinda like that

[amber field]

the first one look like a bulldog face lol

[desert flame]

If anything, it looks more like a manatee.

[amber field]

I know it manatee relative but the face reminded me of that kinda of dog

[desert flame]

It's strange that the ancestors of aquatic mammals resemble dogs.

[fiery crow]

oh honey, wait until you hear about Puijila and Kolponomos

seal relatives

[desert flame]

Yes
the ancestors of seals are similar to those of weasels and bears, which makes sense since they share the same ancestor.

[cosmic cosmos]

ts is NOT coming to the game 😭

[left spear]

Micro exhibit cope

[frosty torrent]

Jaekelopterus and Synthetoceras

[amber field]

don't tell me you take it seriously 😭

[fiery crow]

the people that want Titanomyrma only want it in because of WwB nostalgia

[thin dome]

I think this is likely how we will get anomalocaris and other marine inverts. Aquatic vivarium but that might wait til aquatic update? That’s a thing we’re expecting right

I think a good wait to addd trilobites and really small things could be with the vivariums (turtle is small) but another way is with like a touch pool flat ride kinda thing

[plain knoll]

Yup

[thin dome]

Like Burgess Shale guys

I forgor ab aquatic and flying update tbh that’s post launch tho right

[plain knoll]

Maybe

[fiery crow]

most of them are tiny though, Anomalo is really the only possible candidate

[thin dome]

thats why im sayin like touch pool or texture based kinda thing

might still be too small though

but i meant more broadly that a touch pool flat ride kinda thing could be a way to add like trilobites and otehr small inverts

[fiery crow]

some trilobites are definitely viable

Isotelus rex for sure

[quick ore]

trilobites maybe but other small inverts I have my doubts for with a touch tank

you gotta make sure they are both safe to touch and safe to Be touched

[fiery crow]

Bad and naughty children get their fingers pricked in the Hallucigenia touch tank.

[quick ore]

Hallucigenia wouldn't survive a touch tank

[fiery crow]

true

[fiery crow]

Hupehsuchus or Eretmorhipis would be cool

How we feelin’ ‘bout Metopacanthus maybe getting in?

[eager thunder]

Is it upside down or does look like that

[flint sable]

no its right side up

for whatever reason evolution decided a fake mouth was advantageous

[fiery crow]

iirc it’s related to chimaera fish

[wary nacelle]

WAIT THE MOUTH IS ON THE BOTTOM OML I FEEL DUMB

[split trench]

They should add at least 5 trilobites.

since theres like 2000 of these little buggers.

[quick ore]

the only way I can see them adding more than 1 trilobite species is if we get a vivarium that is made as an assortment of various species from the same time and place

[low bridge]

That's a DRAW

3 votes, 3 other Picks

[cinder python]

I don’t think 5 can do them all justice

[coarse inlet]

the issue is theres are all really small

IDK what the diversity of 25+ cm trilobites is.

[wary nacelle]

Urania sloanus for a recently extinct pack (moth, vivarium species)

[loud needle]

I am suprised not to see that much about argentavius is not talked a lot about anymore

[quick ore]

it's because it is an aviary species

and we have no way of knowing if the game will Ever support aviaries in the future, and in all likeliehood it probably won't

[eager thunder]

It’s insane to me that these things lived to see the actual sun revolve around the Milky Way twice

[eager thunder]

Probably won’t?

Did i miss something

[quick ore]

I mean

just being realistic

[flint sable]

id say at this stage its pretty difficult to say

every update has been getting consistently more player count

matter of fact, it just recently crested 1k for the first time since EA launch

EA launch peaked at 2,520 concurrent players

[tulip umbra]

We should pin the non believers to a stake

Who’s with me

[eager thunder]

That’s agreeable

[flint sable]

U16 got 1,102
U15 got 956
U14 got 684
U13 got 260
U12 got 225
U11 got 227
U10 got 221
U9 got 564

https://steamcharts.com/cmp/666150#All

[eager thunder]

Would Arthropleura move around all fast and stuff or would those things be slow movers ?

[flint sable]

also worth noting that not only have concurrent players in update gone up, but the players inbetween updates has also gone up

[tulip umbra]

Define fast

[flint sable]

earlier, especially before U9, player counts were about 60-90 when no major updates, and especially this year its been averaging closer to 200

[tulip umbra]

Its not gonna be all wiggly and speedy like a centipede if thats what ur asking

[flint sable]

important to note this also doesnt factor people who play on epic

[eager thunder]

Like, only moving when needed vs moving around as enrichment

[flint sable]

you would 1000% be able to comfortably outrun one

probably even outwalk one honestly

slow AF id imagine

[eager thunder]

It’s interesting visually at least

Hope it gets in game with the big firefly

We already have big ol statues of them

[flint sable]

big firefly?

[tulip umbra]

Its an armored detritivore that just ate anything, its not gonna need speed and will most likely just mosey on its way

[flint sable]

u mean big dragonfly*?

[eager thunder]

Whoops

[tulip umbra]

Griffinfly*

[eager thunder]

Yeah that

[flint sable]

griffinfly = dragonfly*

thats why i put the asterisk

[eager thunder]

Those two would be such a interesting contrast to the rest of the animals in game

Especially with how uncomfortablly large they’d be

[fiery crow]

I’m not gonna lie this kinda comes off as you being a killjoy

[quick ore]

I don't mean to be

I just mean like, look at PK, which is such a bigger game with more money behind it, and it hasn't gotten fully aquatics. Though it does have a more in depth arboreal system

[eager thunder]

Didn’t the devs say that those things would be a focus of post ea if the game was successful?

[fiery crow]

yeah they did

[quick ore]

no ik

I'm just saying it is still very up in the air

[flint sable]

ye definitely

and for all we know its a possibility the game does make enough money for say something like an RE DLC, but not enough for something like aerials and aquatics

we really cannot know

[fiery crow]

so… I was going to suggest Jakapil, but looking at its fossil, it seems far too fragmentary to me?

[tulip umbra]

No thx

[feral cedar]

Jakapil is basically fictional and is just Late Cretaceous Scutellosaurus

[fiery crow]

I’d honestly prefer Scutellosaurus

[feral cedar]

Same

[tulip umbra]

Yes thx

[fiery crow]

Kretzoiarctos beatrix, the first bear in the panda lineage.

[tulip umbra]

Kretzoiarctos is quite fragmentary iirc, Ailurarctos feels like the better pick in terms of panda bears

[fiery crow]

the “fragmentary” argument kinda goes out the window considering Carcharodontosaurus and Leallynasaura

[tulip umbra]

Those are exceptions not the rule, or u could advocate for Oxalaia next

[eager thunder]

I mean that would be really funny

[fiery crow]

except that point goes out the window because I don’t even want Oxalaia.

maybe you shouldn’t make assumptions like that next time. but hey, that’s just me.

[unkempt sky]

i think they should add mourasuchus😋 best crocodilian of all time

[tulip umbra]

Perhaps u gotta try and read sentences next time cuz i never said u wanted Oxalaia, i said wanting Kretzoiarctos is an equivalent to that. But hey thats just me 🤷‍♂️

Kretzoi just a jaw piece and some extra teeth that are not shown in this pic btw

[fiery crow]

don’t play the “exception, not the rule” card.

[coarse inlet]

that's an exageration

[coarse inlet]

is that AI?

why

[tulip umbra]

Devs chose to assign the tail, allowing for uniqueness

I fail to see how Kretzoiarctos has any uniqueness

[slim flare]

We really shouldn’t be looking at extremely fragmentary species without justification

[tulip umbra]

Chatgpt ahh

[eager thunder]

Ai brained

Use Wikipedia like a real person

[fiery crow]

then by that logic, how does Ailurarctos have any uniqueness

[tulip umbra]

Bro… i never intended this to be some hostile debate. I just said Ailurarctos might be a better pick in terms of pandas (which u started of by suggesting), because at least Ailurarctos preserves more than just a jaw piece.

Ailurarctos preserves the fake thumb used for grasping bamboo as well iirc

[fiery crow]

then don’t make it come off like you’re gatekeeping

[final plaza]

Im gonna be totally honest here I think the fragmentary argument is stupid, personally

[fiery crow]

thank you

[tulip umbra]

Gatekeeping? People can be so sensitive and petty. All i did was make another suggestion based on ur proposal but ok

[fiery crow]

in essence
“you want this? no no you should want this instead.”

[tulip umbra]

Thats a lot of assuming and reading into non existent words

[final plaza]

All I see in this channel is someone suggesting something and then everyone getting snobbish and dogpiling them because there isnt enough material to satisfy them. It feels very hostile and like a competition to see who knows the most about obscure paleontology and its like... Bruh

[tulip umbra]

All i gave was my personal opinion. “I FEEL like…” people cant read for shit in this sub lol

[fiery crow]

the only reason I could ever see something not getting in is if it’s way too small

[thin dome]

and dev resources

[unkempt sky]

arguing about the amount of bones btw 💔

[thin dome]

glupshittosaurus!!

[fiery crow]

LITERALLY

[quick ore]

why doesn't it have viv species?

Microleo and Tiliqua frangens would be good choices for that, or maybe the Pig-footed bandicoot

[vast berry]

You're making me feel bad for not including something named after Sir David Attenborough

I didn't know about it until now

I went with the giant Echidna, Murrayglossus

[fiery crow]

well
how big is Murrayglossus

[tulip umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can-google-it-gill-engvid-you-can-search-for-it-online-you-can-browse-for-it-on-the-web-gif-10409511348401384306

[fiery crow]

okay. I was just asking a question.

[quick ore]

sheep sized

[fiery crow]

the tricky thing with this is that there are SO MANY cool Cenozoic animals from Africa

[quick ore]

... how tf do you forget Arsinoitherium or ANY proboscidean 🤦‍♀️

[unkempt sky]

purussaurus 🥹 ❤️‍🩹 📈

[fiery crow]

so these are all cool and I have no problem with any of them. it’s a great list overall. but I’d add a few more unique Proboscidea like Numidotherium, Barytherium, or Phosphatherium.

[unkempt sky]

https://tenor.com/view/its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-migraine-headache-cant-in-pain-gif-5588160

[quick ore]

Arsinoitherium wasn't semi-aquatic

[fiery crow]

pretty sure it lived in swamp environments though.

[tulip umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/who-are-you-again-wait-a-minute-who-are-you-wait-a-minute-who-are-you-huh-gif-20746871

[vast berry]

With Megistotherium, Deinotherium had better watched out

[tulip umbra]

Did Gigantophis live in swamps? Thought it was a sea snake

[vast berry]

Both lived in late Eocene North Africa

[fiery crow]

are you thinking of Paleophis?

[tulip umbra]

Fair enough

[cloud nymph]

Do you have a primate or simiam pack idea

[fiery crow]

Squaloraja polyspondyla, a chimaeriform from the Early Jurassic. One foot long, so it’s about Sahonachelys size if not slightly bigger.

[tulip umbra]

Needs Pachycrocuta

And many other animals lol

Africa has too many picks

[vast berry]

Ekgmowechashala was the ONLY primate native to North America

[tulip umbra]

Unfortunately its only really known from teeth

[tulip umbra]

Also gotta have Darwinius, its named after the man hinself

[fiery crow]

this is the only time I’ll ever agree that something’s too fragmentary

[plain knoll]

Some mammal picks

Gigantopithecus
Chalicotherium
Macrauchenia
Thyalacoleo
Uintatherium
Sivatherium
Synthetoceras
Thylacosmilus
Megistotherium / Hyaenodon
Moeritherium

Diprotodon
Megalonyx
Toxodon
Miracionyx
Enhydriodon
Procoptodon
Platybelodon

Vivariums

Darwinius
Deinogalerix
Castorocauda

[tulip umbra]

In English there’s a word for that, it’s called hypocrisy.

[tulip umbra]

Just missing a horse and a bovid, then you’ve got most of the groups covered

[plain knoll]

Waittt

[tulip umbra]

Oh and Daeodon and idk if ur already confirming giant armadillos or not

[plain knoll]

I didn't add them cuz they are soft confirmed

[fiery crow]

no it isn’t? what are you trying to do here. legitimately.

I’m not gonna bother this time because we’re just gonna go back and forth again.

[plush nacelle]

Dont think it is true

There used to be plenty primates in NA during early cenozoic

[cloud nymph]

Very nice, but I would like to propose replacing one of the homonids with Homunculus patagonicus

[low bridge]

Phiomia is crying

[low bridge]

Will be part 2 with Palaeoloxodon Recki, Deinotherium, Stegotetrabelodon, Sivatherium???

And 2 Croc Beasts: Crocodylus Anthropophagus& Thorbjarnarsoni

[cloud nymph]

Welcome back American bassist, Charles Mingus

[vast berry]

Done them elsewhere

[fiery crow]

Proborhyaena gigantea, the largest predatory metatherian. This game needs more extinct marsupials in the future, and I think other than the obvious ones it would make a great inclusion.

[valid root]

"Dawn of the Dogs" Update

1. Epicyon haydeni (The Bone-Crusher)
   Description: The largest canid to ever live. It didn't look like a modern wolf but more like a cross between a grizzly bear and a pitbull.

Gameplay Role: A heavy-set predator that requires high-security fences. Its powerful jaws would allow for unique feeding animations with large carcasses.

2. Aenocyon dirus (The Dire Wolf)
   Description: An iconic Ice Age predator. While similar to the Gray Wolf, it was heavier with a more powerful bite.

Gameplay Role: A social pack hunter. They would benefit from a "Pack Mechanic" in the game, where their satisfaction increases with the size of the social group.

3. Hesperocyon gregarius (The Ancestor)
   Description: A small, fox-like creature from the Eocene. It represents the very beginning of the canid lineage.

Gameplay Role: A small-body exhibit animal. Because of its size, it could be housed in smaller, more detailed enclosures or walk-through habitats.

[fiery crow]

Hesperocyon might just work as a vivie, methinks.

[slender tangle]

I think Jakapil could work as a vivarium species

[fiery crow]

apparently Jakapil is fictional

[slender tangle]

What

[fiery crow]

#1360542295228944414 message

[hollow flower]

That would be hyperbole

[outer moth]

These gameplay roles sound a lot like they’re meant for a survival game

[peak hazel]

now I know its wrong to accuse everything of being ai

but this feels like vro asked chat gpt to give a synopsis of a pk dog update

[lean hound]

tbf it seems like that went through a translator

[slender tangle]

You fell for hyperbole dude

The Jakapil type specimen is definitely not just a Scutellosaurus

[ancient ibex]

It is a jaw and bits and pieces

[feral cedar]

It was an exaggeration but Jakapil takes much of its body from Scutellosaurus

[feral cedar]

Hello ChatGPT

[peak hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dirty-docks-shawty-triflin-shawty-triflin-she-gif-22455514

[valid root]

no gemini

[outer crater]

Velociraptor is bigger

[feral cedar]

Damn this dude didn’t even use the at least partially competent AI model 😭

[tulip umbra]

Which is insane cuz theres nearly a 100 million years between them

[peak hazel]

same thing

[shell sonnet]

The thing about Jakapil is we don't know where it fits. It could be a parankylosaur or descended from some animal more closely related to Scuttelosaurus than other Thyreophorans.

[fiery crow]

do I want all of these in the game? yes.
but dude if you’re gonna be using Gemini to make a suggestion list then I’d honestly say you shouldn’t be making suggestion lists at all in the first place.

[fiery crow]

gives me the same vibes as people suggesting Tullimonstrum (me included). I don’t think scientists have been able to find out just what the hell it’s supposed to be ever since it was first discovered.

[shell sonnet]

Tully we have a good understanding of what it looks like though. Where it fits isn't a problem because we don't have to rely of its relatives to fill in the gaps.

[peak hazel]

nononononono its gemini

HUGE difference

[shell sonnet]

Also Tully is a far more interesting and weirder animal than Jakapil is

[feral cedar]

One would think the “Too much Cretaceous” argument some people make would lead to Scutellosaurus being preferred because it’s Early Jurassic

[fiery crow]

I think size might be an issue though, it was only 35 cm from what I’m reading from Wikipedia

[shell sonnet]

You forget the "Too much from NA" argument

[fiery crow]

well. how big was Sahonachelys.

[tawdry estuary]

parapuzozia

muahahahah

[shell sonnet]

35 cm is fine. It's an estimate based on some partial fossils, but being more than a foot in length is okay. Sahonachelys is about 22cm in length, though keep in mind it's also a bit wider than say a lizard of that length would be.

[tulip umbra]

Where did u find its length was 22cm?

Neck and head included wouldnt it be quite a bit longer?

[grim lagoon]

Beeg squigly

[tawdry estuary]

yuhyuh

i love ammonites

[fiery crow]

by those sizes I feel it’d be pretty safe to assume that maybe 15 - 20cm would be the minimum size a species would be to not be considered “too small”

[tulip umbra]

Then you’ve got plenty to pick from

[tawdry estuary]

ill make a list

[fiery crow]

I’ll make an exception to the “There’s too much Cretaceous.” argument for anything that isn’t a dinosaur.

[lean hound]

what about a single tooth?

🤔

[shell sonnet]

I don't remember. I thought I did a measurement based on some fossils, but I might have confused that with the frog, which is around that length.

For what it's worth, the game list its length as 0.2 m

[valid root]

I expressed my ideas, and he wrote the sentences in English because I am French. I apologize.

[grim lagoon]

Vivarium aquariums

[fiery crow]

I can understand the “It’s too fragmentary.” argument when it comes to stuff like Oxalaia or Ostafrikasaurus where we literally only know it from a single bone or tooth.

[grim lagoon]

That wiuld be a good size for that

[tulip umbra]

Does the game use .00 decimals? Cuz if the game uses the standard for turtles which is shell size, it could make sense yea

[tawdry estuary]

Vivarium Ammonites
Nostoceras
Baculites
Mariella
Pravitoceras

Non Vivarium Ammonites
Parapuzozia
Diplomoceras

[tulip umbra]

They couldve rounded down

[tawdry estuary]

thats it

[fiery crow]

I understand, but you could’ve just used Google Translate.

[tulip umbra]

Why does that not apply to mammals?

[quick ore]

it isn't a marsupial itself though just an fyi

[tulip umbra]

Might i add pravitoceras

[fiery crow]

I would personally say a few fossil teeth and a right mandible is slightly more than a single fucking tooth, but hey - that’s just me. Since you brought it up, we can use Ailurarctos’ fossil record to help put the pieces together on what the rest of its body might’ve looked like.

[shell sonnet]

No, it doesn't show any further past the .0. My main argument anyway is that Tully isn't too small.

[fiery crow]

Would Najash be too small? It’s about three feet long, I think that’s slightly bigger than Sahona. Perfect for a Box-size vivarium, if you ask me.

[tawdry estuary]

yuh

is that viv or non viv

[shell sonnet]

I believe so

[tulip umbra]

For all we know Kretzoi for example couldve had abnormally large paws, missed the false thumb, unusually short arms, etc. Ur logic for dinosaurs can just as well be applied to mammals, but hey thats just my opinion.

[tulip umbra]

Viv

[tawdry estuary]

oki koki

i wish ammonites were still alive today

[quick ore]

if they were, pinnipeds would be eating them lol

[tawdry estuary]

yeah

[fiery crow]

we would probably be eating them too tbh

[quick ore]

would probably be in a similar state to nautiloids

[tulip umbra]

Jan 5th, Shunosaurus Lii. It roamed the Jurassic in what is now Sichuan China. Known from many complete to nearly complete specimens from juvenile to adult, it is a smaller sauropod that developed a unique tail club in order to defend itself. My personal number 2 most wanted sauropod after Nigersaurus.

[fiery crow]

we already eat octopus and squid

[fiery crow]

oh yeah this guy’s been on my list for a while. one of the more interesting sauropods in my opinion.

[plush nacelle]

Assuming pinnipeds would evolve, when ammonites were such dominant we associate oceans with fish mostly because ammonites are gone

[tawdry estuary]

here an argentinosaurus i made in a roblox game

[ancient ibex]

I've also seen mentions of potential chimerism...

[peak hazel]

concerning

[tulip umbra]

Jakapil is very much a glupshittosaurus

[outer moth]

Looks amazing!
But this works more for #community-art

[tawdry estuary]

oh

okkkkkkkkk

[slim flare]

Saurolophus

[ancient ibex]

Cool-ass hadrosaur

Toss in both species and Prosauro as an alt and you get neat hadrosaur stuff for Dinosaur Park, Horseshoe Canyon and Nemegt

[peak hazel]

can't forget Parasaurolophus

[shell sonnet]

Good information how its skull changed with age

[peak hazel]

I know its a niche and obscure one but I'd like to see it in the game

[tawdry estuary]

it is in game

[fiery crow]

kinda like Deinodon

[tawdry estuary]

sigh

[peak hazel]

no it isn't

[tawdry estuary]

whast this then

sigh

[peak hazel]

never seen that before

was it in a dev diary

[tawdry estuary]

well para is in ga,e

game

[peak hazel]

look vro I have 242 hours in pk

[tawdry estuary]

i literally have multiple in ,y park

[peak hazel]

theres no para

[fiery crow]

he’s just fucking with you. he’s trying to put smoke in your head and shit.

[tawdry estuary]

oh

ooooooooooooook

[peak hazel]

no I'm not

why would I be deceitful in the community species suggestion thread

[fiery crow]

MAN I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO TAKE NO MORE MAN
GET OUTTA MY HEAD MAN
GET OUTTA MI HEAD!!!

[tawdry estuary]

smiling friends ref

[tawdry estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-me-head-smiling-friends-get-out-of-my-head-my-head-me-head-gif-7400622326871933876

[fiery crow]

DJ Spit my beloved

[tawdry estuary]

i love him

one time like 10 of my dinos had diseases at the same time and more and more kept getting diseases

i somehow fixed that

i shouldnt be saying this here

[plush nacelle]

I wish people would care more about non-theropods from nemegt

[slim flare]

^

Saurolophus, Tarchia, Nemegtosaurus, Prenocephale

[shell sonnet]

Opisthocoelicaudia

[slim flare]

Either one

But… afaik they’re pointless beyond formation representation

[shell sonnet]

We actually have a lot of Opisthocoelicaudia

[slim flare]

Yes

[fiery crow]

Nemegt Formation DLC

Habitat
Avimimus portentosus, alt. species nemegtensis
Homocephale calathoceros
Opisthocoelicaudia skarzynskii, alt. genus Nemegtosaurus mongoliensis
Saurolophus angustirostris
Tarchia kielanae, alt. species tumanovae
Therizinosaurus cheloniformis

Vivarium
Buginbataar transaltaiensis (Terrestrial)
Nemegtemys conflata (Terrestrial)

[slim flare]

Homalocephale over Prenocephale? Smh

[peak hazel]

john Achillobatar

is vro even from the Nemegt actually

[slim flare]

Also why are the genera but italicized

[fiery crow]

it’s just how I like to do things

[plush nacelle]

Opistho with nemegt alt is such right thing to do

[shell sonnet]

Both species of Tarchia should make it

Also a lack of Alioramus

no no no

[peak hazel]

which of the Alioramids are known from the best material

[fiery crow]

we kinda already have Tarbosaurus covered for Nemegt tyrannosaurs though

[slim flare]

Avimimus…

[peak hazel]

Alioramus feels distinct enough from Tarbosaurus to justify including it

[shell sonnet]

The original type species, I believe, which might be the only one that's valid.

Problem is there's quite a few specimen in private hands

[slim flare]

I would put Alioramus at the bottom of Nemegt, along with the sauropod

[peak hazel]

unfortunate

[ancient ibex]

sinensis has IIRC the one with more described material

[tulip umbra]

Those vivs are really pulled from the depths of obscurity

[fiery crow]

I felt like I had to include at least one or two vivariums, it’d be just habitat animals otherwise

[ancient ibex]

Nogon Tsav, Nemegt Formation, Mongolia
Holotype- (GIN 3141/1) (juvenile) incomplete skull (~700 mm), mandible, four cervical vertebrae, partial tibia, proximal fibula, pedal ungual I, distal metatarsal II, phalanx II-1, pedal ungual II, distal metatarsal III, phalanx III-1, pedal ungual III, distal metatarsal IV, phalanx IV-1, pedal ungual IV
For remotus

[slim flare]

There’s already Mono

[peak hazel]

Q. sinensis I assume

[ancient ibex]

altai:

Tsagan Khushuu, Nemegt Formation, Mongolia
Referred- (IGM 100/1844; holotype of Alioramus altai) (9 year old juvenile; 369 kg) incomplete skull (~635 mm), mandibles (one partial), hyoids, atlantal intercentrum, altantal neurapophyses, incomplete axis (36 mm), incomplete third cervical vertebra (42 mm), incomplete fourth cervical vertebra (42 mm), incomplete fifth cervical vertebra (65 mm), incomplete sixth cervical vertebra (75 mm), seventh cervical vertebra (57 mm), eighth cervical vertebra (60 mm), ninth cervical vertebra (67 mm), tenth cervical vertebra (51 mm), seven cervical ribs, partial anterior dorsal vertebra (55 mm), posterior dorsal vertebra (55 mm), dorsal vertebral fragment, two dorsal ribs, incomplete sacrum (?,?,75,79,97 mm), fourth sacral rib, fifth sacral rib, proximal caudal vertebra (87 mm), proximal caudal vertebra (82 mm), distal caudal vertebra (84 mm), mid chevron, incomplete ilium, ischia (430 mm; one partial), femora (560 mm; one fragmentary), distal tibia (101 mm transverse width), distal fibula, astragalus, calcaneum, distal tarsal III, distal tarsal IV, partial metatarsal I, phalanges I-1 (48 mm), pedal ungual I (36 mm), proximal metatarsal II, partial metatarsals III, phalanx III-1, proximal metatarsal IV, metatarsals V (one incomplete, one partial), metatarsal fragments, several pedal phalanges (Brusatte et al., 2009)

[fiery crow]

what other formations should I do

[slim flare]

Wessex

[ancient ibex]

sinensis:

Nanxiong Group, Longling Town, Nankang District, Jiangxi, China
(GM F10004; holotype of Qianzhousaurus sinensis) incomplete skull (900 mm), incomplete mandible, atlantal intercentrum (19.4 mm), axis (54.5 mm), third cervical vertebra (48.8 mm), fourth cervical vertebra (55.8 mm), sixth cervical vertebra (86.7 mm), seventh cervical vertebra (88.1 mm), eighth cervical vertebra (91.5 mm), ninth cervical vertebra (85.1 mm), tenth cervical vertebra (78.9 mm), first dorsal vertebra (65.5 mm), second dorsal vertebra (68.4 mm), third dorsal vertebra (69.8 mm), fourth dorsal vertebra (75.1 mm), partial ~third caudal centrum, ~fourth caudal vertebra (85.1 mm), ~fifth caudal vertebra (96.1 mm), ~sixth caudal vertebra (94.1 mm), ~seventh caudal vertebra (94.1 mm), ~eighth caudal vertebra (98.5 mm), partial ~ninth caudal vertebra, partial ~nineteeth caudal vertebra, ~twentieth caudal vertebra (96.7 mm), ~twenty-first caudal vertebra (102.7 mm), ~twenty-second caudal vertebra (100.9 mm), ~twenty-third caudal vertebra (97.5 mm), ~twenty-fourth caudal vertebra (97.6 mm), ~twenty-fifth caudal vertebra (88.3 mm), ~twenty-sixth caudal vertebra (84.7 mm), ~twenty-seventh caudal vertebra (80.4 mm), ~twenty-eighth caudal vertebra (75.2 mm), ~twenty-ninth caudal vertebra (68.3 mm), scapulocoracoids (one partial), partial ilia, incomplete femur (700 mm), tibia (760 mm), partial fibula, astragalus, calcaneum, metatarsal I (75 mm), incomplete metatarsal III, incomplete metatarsal IV (Lu, Yi, Brusatte, Yang, Li and Chen, 2014)

[slim flare]

Therizinosaurus and Prenocephale are the most necessary left from Nemegt

[tulip umbra]

Alioramus two species with Qianzhou alt, devs can use the unkown gaps as creative freedom

Best way to do it imo

[ancient ibex]

They are still quite likely to form a growth series of the same thing ngl

[slim flare]

Or just do Nanotyrannus

[quick ore]

the day Nano gets added will be legendary

[tulip umbra]

Has there been no histological analysis?

[fiery crow]

Wessex Formation DLC

Habitat:
Hypsilophodon foxii
Neovenator salerii
Polacanthus foxii

Vivarium:
Bernissartia fagesii

[slim flare]

Hybodus isn’t from Wessex

[shell sonnet]

We have Neoventaor

[tawdry estuary]

do the devs plan on adding pterosaurs btw

[shell sonnet]

Only if the game is successful enough

[tawdry estuary]

mk

[quick ore]

well some pterosaurs can be added for the current vivs

but they would be smaller species

[tulip umbra]

contribute to patreon if u can 😉

[quick ore]

in line with the other arboreal fliers

[shell sonnet]

Only Dimorphodon would be worth adding though

[quick ore]

wrong

[tawdry estuary]

no

[quick ore]

Pterodactylus

[slim flare]

What?

[tawdry estuary]

ramphorynchus anurognathus and other stuf

uh

[shell sonnet]

Rhampho is too big

[slim flare]

Ramph should be full

[quick ore]

Kunpengopterus

[shell sonnet]

It needs a full aviary

[tulip umbra]

Wukongopterids

[tawdry estuary]

ramph isnt that big right?>

hollup

[shell sonnet]

Actually I forget, Jehol is a must have

[tulip umbra]

Maybe not ramph, but scaphognathus yea

[tawdry estuary]

yeah ramph is too big

nvm

[quick ore]

Peteinosaurus could be nice

[tawdry estuary]

i found this thing

uh

ew

[slim flare]

Lmao the mouth

[toxic oriole]

Time to remove the AI from this...

[tawdry estuary]

it pisses me off so much

[toxic oriole]

At this rate, just call it a "Wolf" pack

Emphasis on the "Wolf" part, given the factor of those guys

[tulip umbra]

A kids doodle is pissing u off?

[tawdry estuary]

the placement of the mouth does

i found this on shutterstock

[toxic oriole]

Built like pinnochio or however its pronounced

[neat pivot]

New Species idea -

Dodo (Raphus cucullatus)

I think it would be the 1st 'bird' type animal in the game, it would be a habitat species and its babies would look a lot like those wird ahh baby pigeons

[toxic oriole]

Theres a "Recently Extinct Species" DLC idea that the developers have

[slim flare]

Yes!

[fiery crow]

if we end up getting a Recently Extinct DLC then the Dodo is 100% being included

[toxic oriole]

Would be one of the first DLC's, or THE very first DLC for the game

[slim flare]

Never forget what they took from you

[fiery crow]

I remember hearing that dodos were actually way smarter than most people think

[toxic oriole]

I actuallly don't know what the Dodo's colors truly were

[tawdry estuary]

apparently they didnt even taste good

[toxic oriole]

I'm more curious on the color of the bird