Community Species Suggestions

[dusky obsidian]

an extra

of this

wont be long but its hard to find unique species that i didnt already pick, and ones that have worth to be added

[dusky obsidian]

Extra (more cenozoic sided this time)
Pelagornis
Argentavis
Pontolis
Moganopterus
Rhizodus
Irritator
Shunosaurus
Nigersaurus
Ptychodus
Parahelicoprion
Edestus
Khinjaria
Jakapil
Cameroceras
Ankylorhiza
Bahariasaurus
Smilosuchus
Iharkutosuchus
Dunkleosteus
Titanichthys
Discokeryx
Rutiodon
Falcarius
Nyctosaurus
Arambourgiania
Hatzegopteryx
Pterodaustro
Andrewsarchus
Kelenken
Arctodus
Simbakubwa
Dinocrocuta
Thylacosmilus
Procoptodon
Diprotodon
Sarkastodon
Megatherium
Gastornis
Uintatherium
Synthetoceras
Urtinotherium
Hyaenodon
Arsinoitherium
Aepycamelus
Daeodon
Gigantophitecus
Platybelodon
Ambelodon
Macrauchenia
Coryphodon
Ambulocetus
Miolania
Paleophis
Chasicotherium
Eremotherium
Orodus

Listracanthus
Squatinactis
Euryzygoma
Amphimachairodus
Arctotherium
Agriotherium
Megalonyx
Titanis
Hoffstetterius
Mixotoxodon
Toxodon
Embolotherium
Megacerops
Moropus
Borissiakia
Chalicotherium
Urtinotherium
Eobasileus
Palaeomastodon
Rhinotitan
Alopias Grandis+Palatasi
Konobelodon
Zygolophodon
Deinotherium
Stegototetrabelodon
Gompotherium
Blancotherium
Aquilolamna
Xiphiorhynchus
Sivatherium
Pallimnarchus
Saivodus
Machimosaurus
Chlamydoselachus Goliath
Koristocetus
Omnidens
Palaeeudyptes
Odobenocetops
Allodesmus
Aetobatus
Lianocetus
Megalenhydris
Squalodon
Inticetus
Balistes Vegai
Yaguarasaurus
Stratodus
Dinofelis

[fiery crow]

wouldn’t Euryzygoma basically be the same as Diprotodon? I personally think I’d prefer having it as an alt. species for Diprotodon (if we ever get it) in the future

[dusky obsidian]

There are alts in there

I counted the alts in too

Or else i wouldnt have picked most of them

[fiery crow]

ah
yeah that makes sense

[autumn plover]

Bro calm down I don’t think they can possibly add half the animal kingdom

[spring ridge]

my personal wishlist would be:
Megalonyx jeffersonii
Platygonus compressus
Homotherium latidens

whoops

sent that too soon

lemme redo that

[fiery crow]

not to mention some of these are wishful thinking at best. for instance Chasicotherium is only known from a partial skull and mandible.

[spring ridge]

my personal wishlist would be:
Megalonyx jeffersonii
Platygonus compressus
Mylohyus nasutus
Homotherium latidens
Bootherium bombifrons
Mammuthus columbi (including a skin that represents the late pleistocene jefferson hybrids types and a channel island dwarf mammoth skin)
Mammut americanum
Mammut pacificus
Cervus canadensis combrayicus
Canis lupus spelaeus
Cervalces scotti
Cervalces latifrons
Euceratherium collinum
Antilocapra pacifica
Capromeryx furcifer
Hemiauchenia macrocephala
Camelops hesternus
Synthetoceras tricornatus

[dusky obsidian]

I dont want them to add every single one

Lmao

Im just giving them ideas on wich animals i find interesting

[fiery crow]

I do want to see Ankylorhiza
but at the same time. Eurhinodelphis would be super cool too.

[dusky obsidian]

I just wanna see more cenozoic animals in the game

I feel like we barely have any

[spring ridge]

this person speaks the truth

[dusky obsidian]

Yea

[dusky obsidian]

I mean we have a handful but there are so many more cool cenozoic additions they could add

[steep crane]

All of them.

[plain knoll]

[steep crane]

Well here goes.

[low bridge]

Why there is no Sivatherium Maurusium and Bramatherium?

[steep crane]

Now for terrariums:

Arboreal
-Confuciusornis sanctus
-Coelurosauravus elivensis
-Drepanosaurus unguicaudatus
-Meganeura monyi
-Ozimek volans
-Plesiadapis tricuspidens
-Suminia getmanovi
-Anurognathus ammoni
-Caviramus schedaplanensis
-Darwinopterus modularis
-Dimorphodon macronyx

Terrestrial
-Arthropleura armatus
-Caudipteryx zoui
-Eohippus angustidens
-Euparkeria capensis
-Hyperodapedon gordoni
-Leptictidium auderiense
-Pulmonoscorpius kitktonensis
-Repanomamus robustus
-Thrinaxodon liorhinus
-Tianyulong confuciusi

Amphibious
-Castorocauda lutrasimilis
-Crassigyrinus scoticus
-Didelphodon vorax
-Hibbertopterus scouleri
-Icthyostega sternsioei
-Mesosaurus tenuidens

Aquatic
-Anomalocaris canadensis
-Eretmorhipis carrolldongi
-Falcatus falcatus
-Megalograptus welchi
-Megamastax ambylodus
-Omnidens amplus
-Pterygotus anglicus
-Stethacanthus altonensis

[steep crane]

Look again.

Oh you meant maurisium

Eh, I’m alright with just giganteus.

[dusky obsidian]

[fiery crow]

if you’re gonna add Eretmorhipis you might as well add Hupehsuchus too

[left spear]

No Mekosuchus 🥀

[plush nacelle]

I yearn for early horse

[fiery crow]

also Pterodactylus could probably work as a vivie too

[plush nacelle]

I think no pterosaurs in vivarium till big ones are introduced

[left spear]

Eh

Anurogh can make It in

It's an unnecessary restriction

[plush nacelle]

Pterosaurs would definitely be one of the first species to be added, if this wasnt the case

[steep crane]

I wanted it. The problem was Pterodactylus wasn’t arboreal.

It was more like a Curlew or Willet.

I don’t know where to place it.

And idk if it was even such a good swimmer so not sure about amphibious.

Terrestrial perhaps?

[left spear]

Terrestrial with a lot of water enrichment

[plain knoll]

They should be placed on Omni vivas

[dusky obsidian]

Beast of lesotho.

Even tho its unnamed

I would love to see it oneday in the game

7 meter long temnospondyl btw

[slim flare]

What’s it based on?

[dusky obsidian]

?

[short rover]

What does its fossil look like

[hollow flower]

Half a jawbone

[warm ice]

Mmmmhm
Totally enough material to work with

Speaking of lots of material for them to work with, I’m so excited for them to add Bruhathkayosaurus!!!

[dusky obsidian]

One day as in once we get more material....

[outer moth]

Imma add to this
Rahonavis ostromi (vivarium)
Falcatakely forsterae (vivarium)
Araripesuchus tsangatsangana (vivarium)
Adalatherium hui (vivarium)

[warm ice]

I’d prefer they just add Koolasuchus over the bruhath or Perucetus of temnospondyls

[outer moth]

I’m low-key kinda hoping for more vivariums now

[hollow valve]

Me too.

There were a lot of good ones in this update.

[fiery crow]

I don’t think anyone was expecting Sahonachelys or Titanoboa. December 21 is going down in history as a MONUMENTAL day for Prehistoric Kingdom.

[flint sable]

speaking of monumental day for PK

how high did the playercount get?

[plush nacelle]

1123

[dusky obsidian]

i wonder how high the playercount will be once update 17 comes out

[fiery crow]

I’m lowkey gonna be kinda sad once the game gets out of Early Access… what a ride it’s been

[dusky obsidian]

why sad

the game will only keep improving

[fiery crow]

I guess it’s happy tears at worst

[flint sable]

is that a new high?

[peak hazel]

update 15 might've had more

[plush nacelle]

Yes

[dusky obsidian]

how much players does the game have regularly

[peak hazel]

not 1123

[fiery crow]

does PZ usually have the same player count or is it usually bigger

[peak hazel]

I don't actually know where you view the game stats

is it on the steam app or the browser

[fiery crow]

I know that’s a dumb question because PK and PZ are like night and day

[plush nacelle]

Way bigger

On the other hand with good wind U17 might reach JWE3 numbers on steam

It hover around 2.5k - 3k player

[fiery crow]

here’s something I’m personally hoping we see one day

Metopacanthus

[dusky obsidian]

what the fuck

am i looking at

genuinely

never in my 14 years

on this planet

have i ever seen something that disturbing

ik this guy is from the paleozoic or smth weird

[fiery crow]

Early Jurassic actually

it looks SO out of place it’s not even funny

[dusky obsidian]

dang

i did not even smile

i went through a rollercoaster of emotions

genuinely WHAT is that

how did you even find that bro💔

[fresh ember]

Yu-Gi-Oh monster-lookin' fuck.

[dusky obsidian]

oh nah that thing is found in germany

[peak hazel]

I forgot about this guy

[fiery crow]

#science-chat message

[fiery crow]

the eyes lowkey make it look like it’s high

[dusky obsidian]

why on gods green earth does it have 2 mouths

"mouths"

[peak hazel]

I don't know

it just does

[dusky obsidian]

the upper one isnt even a full mouth

[dusky obsidian]

its just tuff like that

[flint sable]

funi

[fiery crow]

can I show you more fucked up shit

[dusky obsidian]

what is possibly more fucked up than that

[fiery crow]

#1360542295228944414 message
#1360542295228944414 message

[dusky obsidian]

oh yea i remember seeing this guy

the small fish one i already knew of

but wanna see a really messed up animal

mimetaster

[fiery crow]

MIMETASTER

[dusky obsidian]

yea

[fiery crow]

I LEARNED ABOUT THIS ONE THIS MORNING

[dusky obsidian]

dang

i found a list

of weird animals

Vernonopterus, Schinderhannes, Aeger, Purlovia, Belotelson, Squatinactis, Harpagofututor, Stylinodon, Eotitanops, Secodontosaurus, Eobasileus, Dvinosaurus, Peipiaosteus, Chendytes, Birgeria, Micropholis, Karenites, Megawhaitsia, Kalligramma, Ozimek, Nycteroleter, Floridaceras, Bolosaurus, Lalieudorhynchus, Ichibengops, Lende, Archaehierax, Fraxinisaura, Utatsusaurus, Primitivus, Onychodus, Ankalagon, Pezosiren, Palaeogeranos, Nimbadon, Chambicuculus, Chambiortyx, Titanohyrax, Brochuchus, Necromantis, Palaeocastor, Trogontherium, Llallawavis, Baru, Burkesuchus, Chilesaurus, Balaenognathus, Balhuticaris, Nereocaris, Cambroraster, Mahajangasuchus, Eoentelodon, Psittacopes, Septencoracias, Phaethusavis, Gargantuavis, Labes, Cratosolpuga, Calanguban, Eocaecilia, Kombuisia, Messelopython, Funcusvermis, Urocordylus, Lonchidion, Montceaubatrachus, Meganeuropsis, Megalictis, Siamogale, Rhizosmilodon, Kretzoiarctos, Miomaci, Gallogoral, Bavarioboa, Arcovenator, Tetrapodophis, Danuvius, Chororapithecus, Dinopithecus, Pyrotherium, Interatherium, Perupithecus, Nasidytes, Vastanagama, Glyptosaurus, Pierolapithecus, Alxasaurus, Lithornis, Zaragocyon, Nyctitherium, Kerberos, Karaurus, Morrolepis, Stirtodon, Obdurodon, Qaisracetus, Miomancalla, Maomingosuchus, Elomeryx, Vancleavea, Bystrowiella, Ericiolacerta, Notictoides, Aphanobelodon, Laophis, Graecopithecus, Plourdosteus, Miguashaia, Livoniana, Pachystruthio, Dipterus, Delphyodontos, Volaticotherium, Archaeocyon, Hungarosaurus, Doratodon, Iharkutosuchus, Arktocara, Pannoniasaurus, Keratocephalus, Sespia, Oryctodromeus, Dentaneosuchus, Terastiodontosaurus, and Kelyophis

genuinely

who comes up with these names bro

[fiery crow]

related to Marella

[dusky obsidian]

shi aint even funny#

wanna see a weird shark like animal tho

orodus

wich i suggested

i hope they add this guy

and its actually a fish

[fiery crow]

okay, out of the ones I know:

• Secodontosaurus isn’t weird at all to me
• Volaticotherium is just a flying squirrel
• Obdurodon is just a giant platypus
• Dinopithecus is just a giant baboon
• Eocaecillia is just a caecilian, yes they’re a weird species but there’s nothing different about it and any other caecilian
• Paleocastor is basically a subterranean beaver
• Titanohyrax is just a really big hyrax

[dusky obsidian]

believe it or not

[dusky obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-tweaking-tweaking-out-tongue-out-gif-7589464350113984305

speaking of shark like animals

ptychodus when

[fiery crow]

would love to see it

[dusky obsidian]

fr

[warm ice]

Also
Equus giganteus
BIG horse

Would also be the first Equine in the game if added

[silver steeple]

We're getting horses with a recently extinct dlc shortly after launch

Also E giganteus is dubious at best

[short rover]

It’s very likely not real yea

[coarse inlet]

Another Jurassic weirdo that looks paleozoic is Dollocaris

sadly it's probably too small for the game

[warm ice]

If we ever get like
An extension to vivariums that adds an aquarium version, Anomalocaris would be like
The most obvious thing ever
Borderline mandatory, even

[fiery crow]

GODS
I WOULD STILL LOVE TO SEE IT

[eager thunder]

He looks like he’s about to fight the power rangers

[dusky obsidian]

wait what

equus isnt real?

SINCE WHEN

[coarse inlet]

E. giganteus, not Equus as a whole

[dusky obsidian]

oh

but still

kinda sad

😢

[reef relic]

I'd love to see more goofy little vivarium dudes. Dimetrodon milleri for example.
Or Eohippus

Gorgonops or Lycaenops could fit in a vivarium. Or maybe a Therocephalian of some variety

[warm ice]

Could also have Inostrancevia as a habitat species

[tough marsh]

most gorgons can id say the only ones that cant are Ino, Rubidgea and Dinogorgon

I wish the best gorgonopsian had a proper name

[steep tulip]

Where my yueosaurus believers at

[left spear]

On the darkest pit of hell where they belong

[tulip umbra]

Pick one Palaeophis or Pterosphenus, specify which species as well.

[fiery crow]

Maevarano Formation DLC

Habitat:

• Mahajangasuchus insignis
• Majungasaurus crenatissimus
• Masiakasaurus knopfleri
• Rapetosaurus krausei

Vivarium:

• Adalatherium hui (Terrestrial)
• Araripesuchus tsangatsangana (Terrestrial)
• Beelzebufo ampinga (Amphibious)
• Falcatakely forsterae (Arboreal)
• Madtsoia madagascariensis (Terrestrial)
• Rahonavis ostromi (Arboreal)

I think this is p goog

[left spear]

Good

No comment

[fiery crow]

maybe I could’ve included a fish or two, but I don’t think there’s any Maevarano fish that’re actually worth writing home about

[fiery crow]

Yixian Formation DLC

Habitat:

• Beipiaosaurus inexpectus
• Mei long
• Repenomamus giganticus
• Zhenyuanopterus longirostris

Vivarium:

• Caudipteryx zoui (Terrestrial)
• Confuciusornis sanctus (Arboreal)
• Hyphalosaurus lingyuanensus (Amphibious)
• Incisivosaurus gauthieri (Terrestrial)
• Sinosauropteryx primus (Terrestrial)
• Xianglong zhaoi (Arboreal)

mid ahh DLC ngl 😭

[cosmic cosmos]

Where is Rhamph

[coarse inlet]

Good but Mei is probably not a great choice since it’s only known from a baby. Hexing might be better

[cinder token]

Here's what I'd say that I'd want in the game before it leaves Early Access (and yes, this is just my two cents):

Mammals:
1 Additional Starter Mammal - should be small and/or drab, like a camel or a horse. North American Horse, Camelops, or Metridiochoerus are all examples I'd use.
1 Pleistocene Australian Critter - Diprotodon, Procoptodon, or Thylacosmilus
1 African Mammal - can fit into the starter category, but my other suggestions would by Enhydriodon or Sivatherium
1 Basal mammal - something like Eohippus, Pachyaena, or Mesonx

Non-Dinosaurian Reptiles:
1 Crocodilian of any sort - already covered sincethe devs have implied that Deinosuchus is on its way

Dinosaurs (excluding birds)
Crylophosaurus - to finally have an animal from Antarctica
1 Megaraptorid
1 Abelisaur

Birds
1 Phorusrhacid - already covered
1 Herbivorous bird - in light of the Moa being planned DLC, either Gastornis or Aepyornis

Others
1 Large Paleozoic animal - please. I take Mau's determination to lie about Diictodon and Diplocaulus both coming in the most recent update as proof that we could get one before EA ends.
1 Avialian for Mini-Exhibits
1 Arthropod Viviarium Animal
1 Vivarium Primate

[safe willow]

i have a soft spot for Quinkana though the debate around its exact lifestyle might make it a turn off but what is this channel but dreams

deinosuchus is cool but pwease smaller croc too

[silver steeple]

Simple, just add both species of Deino

[flint sable]

great list and I agree alot here, but especially with the mammals prolly aint happening

I would say we got like

3 mammals left in EA at a minimum

possibly 4

the most I can realistically see is 4

with those being Leptictidium, Megatherium, Doedicurus, and Ambulocetus

[silver steeple]

iirc we're still due a semi-aquatic mammal

[safe willow]

how small is ther smallest deinosuchus

[silver steeple]

Like a little larger than a saltie iirc

[flint sable]

riograndensis would have been ~10.5 meters and schwimmeri about 7.5 meters

as of recent estimates

no idea for hatcheri or rugosus tho

[safe willow]

3 meters is the estimate for Quinkana that ive seen
but since its incredibly fragmentary...

[flint sable]

ye

[silver steeple]

hatcheri and rugosus are the same thing as riograndensis

[flint sable]

we also dont know what quinkana was even doing

[flint sable]

noted

[flint sable]

its not known how terrestrial they even were

[safe willow]

existing, being a good boy

[flint sable]

definitely less than something like a Notosuchian

we can pretty confidentally say that Mekosuchus was pretty terrestrial tho IMO

at the very least the later pacific island species

just due to their nature and location

not a lot of large bodies of water in say, New Caledonia or Fiji that could house a semiaquatic reptile, so being more terrestrial makes sense

[safe willow]

though, tbf i love it for its teeth i think theyre neat, so really id take any smol croc

[flint sable]

same goes for Voila

Mekosuchus would be like

peak viv ngl

[silver steeple]

Mekosuchus is so weird

[flint sable]

could slap it in the arboreal or terrestrial viv

[silver steeple]

The 2 species are like so different

[flint sable]

ikr

[flint sable]

probably not a real genus then

[safe willow]

baby

[silver steeple]

Normal croc vs triassic leftovers

[safe willow]

wheeze

[flint sable]

not helping they are seperated by like 25 million years either

[safe willow]

hm

[flint sable]

inexpectatus is also really weird because apparently it was eating like

snails?

apparently

based on the teeth

[silver steeple]

Idk about snails but yes it was durophagus

[flint sable]

I mean what else could that have been

ig maybe like baby Meiolania

[safe willow]

why are they in the same genus

[flint sable]

very good question

they should not be

[silver steeple]

Probably not no

[flint sable]

seperated by like 20my and also look pretty much nothing alike

[silver steeple]

crabs

[flint sable]

TRUE

[flint sable]

Voila is probably closer to M. inexpectatus than either are to M. whitehunterensis

biogeographically speaking anyway that makes sense

oh also funny thing about Mekosuchines, apparently they were in New Zealand at one point

at least untill the Middle Miocene when we have fossils from em

really really scrappy fossils so not really nameable but at least we know they were there

[safe willow]

if i was a smart person id be able to find the papers that described them and see what they said but im not

[silver steeple]

Given they were in New Cal, I'd almost be surprised if they weren't in NZ at some point

[flint sable]

lowk sad about the presevration quality

we know so much about the ecosystem but yet so little because of the preservation quality

like we can know the general ish biota but like

not specifics

this isnt even all of it, there was a genera of primarily terrestrial bats

that are like 3 times the size of the modern NZ bats

[safe willow]

BIRDS

[flint sable]

its possible they were flightless but impossible to know based on the really crappy remains

[plain knoll]

It will be in vivs

[cosmic cosmos]

Its too big

[safe willow]

its smaller than titanboa

[cosmic cosmos]

Prehistoric wildlife sizes are quite bad

[plain knoll]

I see

[cosmic cosmos]

Titanoboa is a snake

(Cant tell if that was tongue in cheek or not)

[safe willow]

yes? but clearly larger animals can go in vivs

[cosmic cosmos]

Snakes are extremley sedentary animals, so they need alot less space than other kinds of animals relative to size

[safe willow]

thats true

[cosmic cosmos]

The largest viv size funnily is around the AZA size reccommended for a hypotherical snake titanboas size

[safe willow]

i do think you could get away with One rhamp in the largest viv but it would be a sad rhamp

[cosmic cosmos]

Yi and Archeopteryx just to show how bad rhamph would fit in vivs

[safe willow]

you can fit 24 yis in a large

like i said a very sad rhamp, but it would technically fit

[cosmic cosmos]

Just wanted to add back up here, most rhamp material comes from juveniles so the sizes you see are often too small

[safe willow]

im looking at the one you linked

keeper next to the large size

its not something youd reseanably do but in alternatie terrible zoo game where you make your animals miserable stick a rhamp in ther

[cosmic cosmos]

It would fly accross the whole thing instantly 😭 my poor baby rhamph

[safe willow]

me when i see what some people keep parrots in

hopefully the game will make a ton of money and rhamp can come in its proper glory

[plush nacelle]

There is always chance

For devs to pick second smaller species based on budget or something

[silver steeple]

*32

24 is for mediums

[alpine thicket]

i mean if they do non-viv fliers they could just do ramph there.

[outer moth]

Rampho no, but Dimorphodon yes

Rampho has a whole different lifestyle that wouldn’t be suitable for a vivarium

[coarse inlet]

Dimorphodon fits vivariums very well because it was mostly climbing and scampering with very little actual flying

[plain knoll]

ANUROGNATHUS

[coarse inlet]

also a good one

[plain knoll]

Arthropleura

[dusky obsidian]

my triassic wishlist:
Diademodon
Shringasaurus
Erythrosuchus
Herrerasaurus
Eoraptor
Lystrosaurus
Smok
Fasolasuchus
Lisowicia
Sillosuchus
Arizonasaurus
Tawa
Gojirasaurus
Silesaurus
Proterosuchus
Lotosaurus
Tanystropheus
Desmatosuchus
Melanorosaurus
Smilosuchus
Hupehsuchus
Stenoscelida

[mortal hedge]

Deinonychus antirrhopus skin suggestion

Utahraptor ostrommaysorum skin suggestion

Austroraptor cabazai skin suggestion

[peak hazel]

something seems

off

[safe willow]

now im not Saying those were all algorithm made prompts but they sure do be all in the same pose

[peak hazel]

what is going on with the foot on that Deinonychus

I think its also U. ostrommaysi and not U. ostrommaysorum

[runic tiger]

Ai slop 👎

[peak hazel]

most likely

could this be digital art that was based off the same pose
sure?

don't think it is though

[outer moth]

Ugh
Ai

I’m just sayin

[fiery crow]

oh brother this guy STINKS

[mortal hedge]

i know i also see other named utahraptor ostrommaysi but searching on the web i keep reading ostrommaysorum, didn't know what actually was right... they are
all in the same predefined pose because i started from a skeleton reference by Scott Hartman, i don't want mess up with the body proportions so i like use Same pose for making a difference in different anatomy details

[mortal hedge]

what about the foot? there is a missing finger but can't find a way to make the secon long without mess how it look on a flat prospective

[mortal hedge]

this was the sketal reference.

And I'd like to understand why the first responses are always discrediting, attacking, and blindly accusing AI. Have you ever tried creating a Raptor with any AI tool? It comes out a piece of shit. It can't even generate the Dromeosaurid sickle claw after 50 attempts. It's the most poorly done JP style. I tried to share ideas for the appearance of the Utahraptor's coat and colors, etc., since this isn't a contest. I didn't put myself forward as an artist competing for the next official design. I just wanted to give a visual cue for skin patterns I tried to apply to animals I'd like to see in the game. 😉👍

[spring ridge]

Trogontherium cuvieri + minus

heres a fun vivarium one, Castor californicus

i think ive already suggested this one, but since im doing beavers, i might as well, Castoroides ohioensis + dilophidus

[runic tiger]

Because it is very obviously ai

You just plugged the skeletal into the image generator

[spring ridge]

knobby feet

[runic tiger]

Thats why it retains the outline of the joints, and makes the foot into one solid mass without recognizing perspective

Kinda silly to say this is "discrediting, attacking, blindly accusing" when its this obvious

If you post ai just be ready for people to call it, not that deep

[mortal hedge]

I understand, i say that because i wanna share some visuals idea without get rejected because i don't i start sharing for a contest of talent of for take a merit for masters of details ..and can't share visuals suggestions without :using a someone else artworks, or a hand draw made by me but that is less detailed in 90 % in the details of feathers color variation and without a proper feathered coloration that will make invane a suggestion for color patterns. i will work on that making it better

[peak hazel]

Birds are right there

[runic tiger]

Idk it just looks bad

[peak hazel]

Even a bad ms paint drawing would be better

[glass urchin]

Wish someone like this would step on me

[quick ore]

ayo?

[peak hazel]

Vro

[dusky obsidian]

tf

what do you even mean by that bro😭

[mortal hedge]

I don't think I completely agree. It would certainly have been simple and correct on the feet and without any traces of the skeleton, but regarding the feathers and the rest, it doesn't come out very well. I'll redo it in pencil, hoping to manage to make the plumage not a mess. And to arouse less revulsion by mixing the edits I did with render ai.

I hope I'm not triggering you, because your nickname, I even tried to make a troodon.... 🙏

[peak hazel]

Vro

[dusky obsidian]

js dont give him attention

[peak hazel]

You didn't make shit

[dusky obsidian]

thats funny asf tho

[mortal hedge]

lol

[dusky obsidian]

this doesnt look right

neither does this

[fiery crow]

https://tenor.com/view/king-kong-quit-yapping-yap-yapper-gif-6071622219613724762

[dusky obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120788606903124119/1453686267249168475/togif.gif

[glass urchin]

I’m usually here just to be silly but I think the point is it’s great to want to be an artist and all but AI art is the wrong way to go about it

[peak hazel]

Yeah

As I said id rather see a bad drawing then a bad ai drawing

[mortal hedge]

about utahraptor names, i find this about :the specific epithet ostrommaysi was used for naming the species in honor of two different persons, but in subsequent years the spelling ostrommaysorum was often used without comment or explanation. In this paper, we review the historical uses of the specific epithet of Utahraptor and make clarifications on the status of six different subsequent spellings. The International Code of Zoological Nomenclature (1999) does not offer any provision for forming a genitive form from two persons having different names, so the original spelling ostrommaysi has to be regarded as an arbitrary combination of letters, and not a correctly formed genitive form. For this reason, it is deemed to be preserved unaltered and is not subject to a justified emendation; consequently, the subsequent spelling ostrommaysorum is erroneous and represents an unjustified emendation and shown not to be in prevailing usage. Therefore, the name to be used for the taxon is Utahraptor ostrommaysi, as originally introduced

[left spear]

r/aiwars

[modern totem]

LOL

[ancient ibex]

Being proud of making AI slop is akin being proud of soiling one's underwear

Not even making

Slop prompts

[peak hazel]

ooooooooo I'm prompting it I'm prompting it so goooood

[ancient ibex]

I'm sorry but that shit is just wasteful crap that lacks any actual quality and just hurts working artists

[peak hazel]

I love hiking ram prices and excessive water consumption to make such tripe

[ancient ibex]

That specific example is also specifically insulting to the very talented concept artists working on this game

[peak hazel]

I finish a drawing once every few months but I'm sure any sane person would take that over 5000 ai images in the same timeframe

[tulip umbra]

I thought this was a Species Suggestion channel…

[reef thorn]

I have composed a list of a bunch of animals that I feel would all be great editions to the game.

Numerous pterosaur species:

Quetzalcoatlus northropi
Pterodactylus antiquus
Pteranodon sternbergi
Pteranodon longiceps
Hatzegopteryx thambema
Dimorphodon macronyx
Tapejara wellnhoferi
Rhamphorhynchus muensteri
Nyctosaurus gracilis

I would love to see aviaries eventually in the game for these species, mabey the small ones could be implemented into terrariums or walk through cages.

Numerous aquatic species:

Mosasaurus hoffmannii
Tylosaurus proriger
Otodus Megalodon
Ichthyotitan severnensis
Plesiosaurus dolichodeirus
Dunkleosteus terrelli
Dunkleosteus tuderensis
Pliosaurus brachydeirus
Liopleurodon ferox
Axelrodichthys araripensis (Coelacanth)
Xiphactinus audax

I would love to see lagoons or some sort of giant aquarium feature for these animals, maybe since we have the vivariums now, it might be possible to add aquariums for some of the smaller species like Coelacanth or the Dunkleosteus.

I would also love to see some additions to the dinosaurs in the game:

Kentrosaurus aethiopicus
Therizinosaurus cheloniformis
Utahraptor ostrommaysi
Deinonychus antirrhopus

I also think that some big crocodilians or crocodylomorphs would fit the game very well.

Purussaurus brasiliensis
Deinosuchus riograndensis
Sarcosuchus imperator
Gryposuchus croizati
kaprosuchus saharicus

This concludes my master list of wanted species.

IMPORTANT: Yes, I would absolutely love to see all of these species implemented one day but I also know just how much time and money that would require. This game is very much on the right track however and I absolutely cannot wait to see the immense amount of progress in another three years' time. I've seen several people comparing this game to JWE3 and I just wanted to state that that franchise has had way more time to develop. I absolutely love all of the hard work the developers have put in so far and I am so excited for the future of this game!

[tulip umbra]

Master list with no mammals… very sad…

[mortal hedge]

I thought so too, and since I've already asked previously about deinonychus, and utahraptor, having an affirmative answer for utahraptor, I made a suggestion for the color pattern of possible Dromeosaurid species, I didn't think it was a contest or a reason to talk about the ai, I agree that for a decent talent Paleoartistic image you can find 8000 shits made with 7-fingered ai and completely nonsense, I tried to create an idea, but doing it by hand I can make a good anatomical (that every one already knows how a utahraptor is made, but what colors and plumage can have? that's was my point ) drawing the plumage is not easy for me.

[peak hazel]

just pick a bird

chaffinch probably isn't the best choice for a Utahraptor but it gets the point across

[mortal hedge]

this guy maybe 🤔

[tulip umbra]

Ppl tend to overreact nowadays cuz of the state of the world ai has created rn, if u wanna use ai to represent an idea cuz u dont have the skills to do it urself thats fine.

Anyways heres a species suggestion: Titanosarcolites, a weird looking bivalve from the cretaceous. If we ever get aquatics, I hope we see some animals like these and crinoids for decorations. They serve the same purpose as paleoflora.

[reef thorn]

I am working on the mammals right now, I ran out of characters on my previous comment.

[reef thorn]

So I apologize but I ran out of characters and I wanted to really express the last part of my message. I have seen some replies about the lack of mammals and I do agree that the addition of some more mammals would be amazing. Some that I would love to see include:

Deinotherium giganteum
Platybelodon danovi
Procoptodon goliah
Glyptodon clavipes
Doedicurus clavicaudatus
Megatherium americanum
Gigantopithecus blacki
Phorusrhacos longissimus
Arctodus simus
Chalicotherium goldfussi
Thylacoleo carnifex
Phiomia serridens

Some other species that aren't mammals could also be great additions. I would love to see some non-mammalian synapsids such as:

Inostrancevia latifrons
Gorgonops torvus
Edaphosaurus pogonias
Dimetrodon limbatus

If you feel that I have left anything out, please let me know.

[fiery crow]

are you feeling it now mr krabs

[fiery crow]

based Phiomia supporter.

[peak hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-game-over-locket-cardinal-gang-deltarune-gif-704166634384197550

[tough marsh]

Slight note it would probably be Ino alexandri not latifrons

[reef thorn]

Nothing wrong with a little love for our tiny elephants. I mean, it is technically an elephantiform but oh well. I know this game is tries its hardest to be paleo accurate and I very much appreciate it. I'm not super knowledgeable on mammalians. I do however, spend most of my time learning about extant reptiles, mainly crocodilians and crocodylamorphs.

[tough marsh]

Kammerer 2020 says they are probably the same thing and alexandri takes priority

[peak hazel]

they should add this really cool and niche theropod into the game

[flint sable]

is that allo ok?

[slim flare]

My favorite carnosaur

[flint sable]

its skull looks almost smushed

[peak hazel]

yeah I have no idea

[tulip umbra]

Nah, they can add obscure animals, but thats a lil too obscure

[slim flare]

Was pretty common before the early 2000’s afaik

Hence WWD

[peak hazel]

I think theres 2 different designs for allosaurus in wwd

[slim flare]

Did Allosaurus really have one claw on its hands way larger than the others?

[peak hazel]

weird choice to make 2 designs for such an obscure choice

[slim flare]

I mean the second design was in Big Al because they made the model higher quality because you’d be seeing it more.

[reef thorn]

huh, I thought that latifrons was bigger but it may just be down to individual variation within the same species. If they are the same, then it makes sense that alexandri would take priority given that it is far more complete. I do know that the initial descriptions by Pravoslavlev (1927) are why we figured that they were two different species but it is very possible that the original research is now outdated.

[peak hazel]

I. alexandri was named first so takes priority

I think

[tough marsh]

Yep

[waxen grail]

Yes

[reef thorn]

ohhhhh, my bad, that makes more sense. Thank you.

[peak hazel]

theres some times when that doesn't hold up and a later one takes priority

[tough marsh]

Russian Inostrasivia does need work in general

[peak hazel]

eg Antrodemus was deemed none diagnostic so we use Allosaurus

even though Antrodemus was named first

[tough marsh]

Same with gorgonops

And lycanops

[peak hazel]

(a lot of genera need reworking)

[reef thorn]

As you can tell, I am not very knowledgeable on gorgonopsids but that goes really for non traditional reptilian animals. In real life, I'm an aspiring herpetologist so when I try to research and learn about prehistoric life, I tend to focus on traditional reptiles and amphibians. Thank you for the information though as I am always happy to learn.

[tough marsh]

It’s fine don’t worry

[peak hazel]

Temnodontosaurus, Mammenchisaurus, a lot of the Gorgonopsids, Dromaeosauria as a clade is not stable
Allosaurus is one of the longest lasting genera I can think of which seems off

[flint sable]

iirc the oldest extinct animal genera still standing is Mammuthus, Megalonyx, or Megatherium

i forgor

[peak hazel]

Mosasaurus is also pretty old

although I don't know when it was named relative to discovery

ok doing a bit of wikipedia research and nothing else

Megalosaurus was named in 1824
Mammuthus was named in 1799 but as E. primigenius, M. primigenius was 1828
Megalonyx was 1822
Megatherium was 1796
Mosasaurus was 1822, M. hoffmanii proper was 1829

Ichthyosaurus is also very old and was described in 1821/22

[static flame]

Megalonyx was 1799 (Jefferson described it while he was Vice President)

[peak hazel]

oh 1822 is when it was given a species name

yeah the genus was established in 1799

[flint sable]

iirc there might be some other super old ones

but they arent in use anymore

I think megatherium is the oldest genus still in use

dunno about species

[plush nacelle]

Elephas americanus

[peak hazel]

the species was established in 1796 as well

[fiery crow]

the fact that we've known some species for over 100 years at this point feels weird to me
and we still haven't discovered everything, so imagine what we haven't found yet. it's probably in the millions if not billions.

[peak hazel]

we've known a bunch for nearly or over 200 years

on the other hand Torvosaurus feels like a really old one but it was only named in 1979

[flint sable]

dont blame you for that

our perception of dinosaurs and really prehistoric life as a whole has changed like

extremely signifigantly within like

[peak hazel]

I think part of that is the name honestly

[flint sable]

the past 50-60 years and especially within the past 20 or so

[peak hazel]

it feels like one that'd be coined really early

[flint sable]

before like 1970 discoveries were a lot more gradual

[peak hazel]

aside from the bone wars

[alpine thicket]

somehow remembering this makes the giga torvo from that one book I had when I was little even funnier

[flint sable]

and we are still undoing a lot of the bone wars era nonsense those 2 set up for us

in terms of taxonomy and names

[peak hazel]

we're still recovering from the bone wars in the big 25 which is crazy

[alpine thicket]

since it was probably only published like ten or so years later I think it was from the 80s or 1990 at the latest, and it just portrayed like
Torvo as so big Allosaurus only came up to its knee.

[fiery crow]

weren't the Bone Wars so stupidly crazy that dynamite was being used to destroy important fossils
I remember reading something about that

[peak hazel]

I believe it happened

but each side exaggerated how much the other used it

[ancient ibex]

Dromaeosauria is stable; Unenlagians being part of it not

But Austroraptor is peak

[peak hazel]

I would like to see Austroraptor ingame

[ancient ibex]

Mastodons roo ngl

[left spear]

Australian proboscideans

[outer moth]

I’m surprised elephants never made it there even during lower tides

[left spear]

Wallace be like that

[outer moth]

I am kinda sad we have less megafauna tho

[left spear]

Blame humans

I wish they never existed

Foul creatures

[plush nacelle]

Better question is

Why hornbills didnt make to australia

[flint sable]

if they had an additional like

few million years

they almost certainly would have

[feral cedar]

Deinocheirus was named in 1970 but it’s for all intents and purposes a 2010s animal because we only legitimately understood it when we discovered more of it in 2014

[fiery crow]

I remember back in 2013 when the paleontology book I had said that it was a mystery what Deinocheirus was
that's why the sudden news about what Deinocheirus really was feels so strange to me. back then it lowkey felt like a weird cryptid.

[flint sable]

something similar might happen to Theri someday

since its basically in the same position Deinocheirus was

a bit more complete but not by much

basically a part of a leg, a more complete arm, and some ribs

[quick ore]

oh yeah I can totally see Theri getting way weirder

imagine... Theri gets cranial material showing it had a big, boxy head and poor vision

[alpine thicket]

theri gets no cranial material because it was in fact a saurian dullahan

[median relic]

ehhhh

[open heron]

We already know there was something weird going on, since its claws have no clear purpose.

[flint sable]

we ultimately cant know these things

most recons of theri are essentially just Segnosaurus, Nothronychus, and Erlikosaurus with huge claws

at least based on the known material

which is essentially what we also did with Deinocheirus

[median relic]

I just think, before more material, deinocheirus was weirder for an ornithomimosaur than theri is for a therizinosaur

or tbh maybe not

[median relic]

but it's unlikely theri is that distant from its closest known relatives like deinocheirus ended up being, right?

deinocheirus isn't even an ornithomimid

[flint sable]

maybe

who knows, with more material and depending on how weird it ends up being, it could end up being more basal

or wacky

[plush nacelle]

Therizinosaurus is also reconstructed primarly on animals at least 30 million years older

[flint sable]

that too

thats kinda like reconstructing a Wolf with like idk, a Hyaenadon skeleton

not a perfect example but whatever

[plush nacelle]

Tbh both stick out

At being unusually big

[median relic]

..

yeah ok I think our current idea of theri is cooked

[feral cedar]

It sort of depends

Nemegt has a wealth of fossils, surely we can find more Therizinosaurus remains

[open heron]

Finding more of Theri is definitely a matter of when rather than if

[quick ore]

sadly we may already have them unbeknownst to us in private hands

[feral cedar]

Theri is definitely exceptional compared to other therizinosaurs

I do believe Nothronychus is the largest reasonably described therizinosaur

[median relic]

please be in my lifetime please 🙏

[fiery crow]

which is probably why Nothro was initially in the roster for the game before it was scrapped out

[abstract compass]

private collector had a skull in China iirc but thats just hearsay.

[outer crater]

Realistically the devs should add Theri because it’s a superstar dino and will bring attention to the game

like spino

and nothro would be scrapped for the time being

[ancient ibex]

Deinocheirids are often found to be closer to Ornithomimids than stuff like Pelecanimimus

[coarse inlet]

Deinocheirids are sometimes not even monophyletic in regards to Ornithomimids

[quick ore]

it'd be cool if we found out more about that north american deinocheirid that that one SVP mentioned

[median relic]

grr

[fiery crow]

Chinle Formation DLC

Habitat:

• Chindesaurus bryansmalli
• Daemonosaurus chauliodus
• Desmatosuchus spurensis (alt. species smalli
• Effigia okeeffeae
• Placerias hesternus
• Postosuchus kirkpatricki
• Smilosuchus gregorii (alt. species adamanensis & lithodendrorum)

Aquarium:

• Anaschisma browni
• Vancleavea campi

Vivarium:

• Drepanosaurus unguicaudatus (Arboreal)
• Trilophosaurus buettneri (Terrestrial)

[steep crane]

Effgia would be full habitat.

[cosmic cosmos]

Drepanosaurus = 🐐

[fiery crow]

Ischigualasto Formation DLC

Habitat:

• Eoraptor lunensis
• Exaeretodon argentinus
• Herrerasaurus ischigualastensis
• Ischigualastia jenseni
• Saurosuchus galilei
• Sillosuchus longicervix

Vivarium:

• Chiniquodon sanjuanensis (Terrestrial)
• Hyperodapedon sanjuanensis (Terrestrial)
• Pisanosaurus mertii (Terrestrial)

[quick ore]

this is gonna be wayyyyy more likely/popular as a suggestion after Surviving Earth

[fiery crow]

are there any other formations I could do

[quick ore]

im doing one myself rn

[shell sonnet]

For the Triassic? Not really.

[fiery crow]

I was thinking more Permian/Mesozoic (Jurassic & Cretaceous)/Paleogene/Neogene/Quarternary formations

[shell sonnet]

There's a lot of those, yes

But Permian is really just North America and then a Russia/South Africa set

And a couple of good Mesozoic locale already have most of their big names that they wouldn't exactly be big sellers

[flint sable]

quaternary doesnt really have formations per se

the animals were just kinda there

since formations are geologic and rocks

wheteas quaternary its basically just like

old bones

found in caves and things

ig early pleistocene theres some

[tough marsh]

There’s also Just Africa and Europe has a bunch of Permian in Germany and England

I can see bromacker getting things

[feral cedar]

And yet, Pelecanimimus is pretty conservative in the ornithomimosaur body plan

Therizinosaurus could get the Deinocheirus treatment, but it’s perfectly valid to reconstruct it as a giant version of its cousins

Besides, PK devs have made peace with the idea that some of their reconstructions will not age well

[shell sonnet]

I guess I'm of the opinion that we'd get two Permian sets at best; Texas Red Beds and Russia/South Africa (because they share a lot of alts). Brocmacker doesn't seem to have much that sticks out and it doesn't share enough with Red Beds as alts.

[tough marsh]

It’s got better Diadectes, Small dimetrodon and Seymouria (lovers version)

[fiery crow]

Tiaojishan Formation DLC

Vivarium:

• Anchiornis huxleyi (Arboreal)
• Darwinopterus modularis (Arboreal)
• Jehelopterus ninchengensis (Arboreal)
• Tianyulong confuciusi (Terrestrial)
• Volaticotherium antiquum (Arboreal)

wait, it’s all Arboreal?

[tough marsh]

Yeah it’s one of the best sites for arboreal animals

[fiery crow]

from everything that I’ve seen so far it seems like a lot of Asian formations from the Jurassic period are like that

[shell sonnet]

I personally like Diadectes, but I'm not ditching Ophiacodon for it.

[tough marsh]

Yeah ophiacodon is cooler

[tulip umbra]

Pebas Formation goated

[shell sonnet]

(D. teutonis is a medicore vivarium choice)

[tough marsh]

Fun fact there’s a Permian formation from North America that’s primarily predators

[feral cedar]

I would personally advocate for Megatherium celendinense to be an alt species of M. americanum and to be made a lot shaggier since the former lived in colder Andean regions. And maybe americanum could get a hairless Deinocheirus-style treatment

Just saying

[shell sonnet]

Megatherium shall always have hair

[flint sable]

yeah pmuch all the megatherium would have hair

you could make the argument Eremotherium might have been mostly naked though

but megatherium? hairy

[feral cedar]

Well in a perfect world, Megatherium americanum/celendinense and Eremotherium alt for hair distribution but people here insist eremo can’t be an alt cause less fingers I guess

[fiery crow]

Messel Pit DLC

Habitat:

• Boverisuchus magnifrons
• Gastornis geiselensis
• Propaleotherium hassiacum

Vivarium:

• Darwinius masillae (Arboreal)
• Godinotia neglecta (Arboreal)
• Leptictidium tobieni (Terrestrial)

[feral cedar]

Leptictidium tobieni is larger

[fiery crow]

I’m stuck on Propaleotherium because on one hand it’s tiny
but on the other hand you wouldn’t put a horse in a vivarium

[flint sable]

its not really a horse though

more comparable to like

a mouse deer

[quick ore]

Agate Fossil Beds DLC:

-Moropus
-Daeodon
-Merychyus
-Syndyoceras
-Daphoenodon
-Stenomylus
-Palaeocastor (viv)
-Bathornis (viv)

[fiery crow]

dude I would love to see Palaeocastor

[mint creek]

Would love an Anurognathid for the vivarium

[fiery crow]

mods, give us Jonkeria and my life will be yours.

[quick ore]

Miocene South America DLC:

-Thalassocnus
-Thylacosmilus
-Granastrapotherium
-Phorusrhacos
-Homalodotherium
-Thoatherium
-Barinasuchus
-Purussaurus
-Pachyrukhos (viv)
-Hapalops (viv)

[fiery crow]

Purussaurus 🗣️

[flint sable]

barinasaurus and purrusuchus when

[left spear]

Barina i think is inevitable

It's a very cool giant semiaquatic crocodile

[fiery crow]

I thought Barina was fully terrestrial

[left spear]

Puru is less likely since it's a generic land croc

[shell sonnet]

You're thinking of Baurusuchus

[quick ore]

? it wasnt semi aquatic what

Barina was terrestrial

[left spear]

(Read the message above mine)

[quick ore]

no im not

Barinasuchus is terrestrial

[left spear]

Okey

I see you're not in the mood for humor

[quick ore]

that was a joke?

[left spear]

CDP went with the mix route and so did I

It's just absurd humor 🤷

[flint sable]

my humour was just more funnier ig

[left spear]

I now must commit Seppuku to cleanse my crimes against humanity i guess

[alpine thicket]

i too want barinasaurus and purrusuchus

[left spear]

See

[flint sable]

what about cotylotherium and sivalorhynchus

[left spear]

Someone has some culture around here

[left spear]

Those are already comfirmed

[quick ore]

Purussaurus

[fiery crow]

when

[flint sable]

purrusuchus*

[quick ore]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purussaurus

[flint sable]

no

purrusuchus

[quick ore]

it's Purussaurus

[flint sable]

nuh uh

[alpine thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/wooosh-dumb-gif-18787851

[quick ore]

show me where it is called Purusuchus

[flint sable]

right here

[quick ore]

im too high for ts

[left spear]

Patreon report, the one from late july last year

Cotylotheriums' skin that was showcased was really cool

The Giraffe pattern fits It neatly

[quick ore]

huh

[alpine thicket]

All I can imagine reading that, despite what you were actually crossing, is just
Megatherium with Coty's head, but the head is still the exact same size as normal.

[left spear]

You might be onto something

Synapsid ground-sloth sounds amazing

[alpine thicket]

even more pinheaded then actual Coty

[flint sable]

Gigantosuminia maximus

[left spear]

And honestly i wouldn't be surprised if something like that popped out in the late permian

[left spear]

That just gave me an idea for TC:AI

[flint sable]

ture

please join its only 2 away from 200 people its a great project

its an alt kpg project but dinos still dead

[left spear]

When will they add frogs to PK?

It's a shame they all went extinct in the k-pg

[alpine thicket]

It's okay, next update when you start PK live frogs will begin pouring out of your PC until they completely fill your room.

[left spear]

I was gonna ask how edible they are gonna be but that would make me unacceptably french

I guess i'll just have to commit ecological vandalism and indiscrimanately dump them on the local pond

[flint sable]

it was funny tho

[left spear]

"NOT FROGS, FROGS ARE DEAD, SMOLDERED TO NOTHING BUT ASHES AND FROG JUICE"

My favorite quote

[alpine thicket]

fortunately, the devs have accounted for this, and your room will refill with frogs as they are removed so you can never run out.

[left spear]

I appreciate the infinite supply of batrachians

I must become the greatest frog dealer of our age

[flint sable]

200th gets a sigma role btw

if your interested DM me

[left spear]

Does the 300th get a Skibiddy role?

[flint sable]

idk

it wont be called sigma role

just

200th

the 100th guy to join was someone named Jimbimb

ironically that was about the same time that I had made 2 posts for the project on the spec evo subreddit, and both were in the top 1 and top 2 spots

[fiery crow]

idea for a cool vivarium species
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolarachne

[left spear]

Bit on the limit

But sure

[coarse inlet]

What ammonites would people want

[fiery crow]

Parapuzosia
Titanites

[coarse inlet]

Titanites could be good for big vivariums

Then Parapuzosia as a habitat species

[quick ore]

these

[fiery crow]

DIPLOMOCERAS

also Macroscaphites

[coarse inlet]

Habitat ammonites would probably need to skip some life stages but I think it’d be worth it

[fiery crow]

Baculites

[tulip umbra]

Pravitoceras

Crioceratites

Nostoceras

Says the person that suggested Mongolarachne 🥱

[flint sable]

definitely gotta get at least like

1 generic basic one

what one would be best

[tulip umbra]

Sphenodiscus perhaps

End cretaceous shown in PP

[outer moth]

Eoraptor could prolly fit in a viv

[coarse inlet]

Apparently that one isnt fully grown

[fiery crow]

there’s a difference believe it or not

[tulip umbra]

Which is?

[fiery crow]

one’s an ammonite and the other’s an arachnid

[tulip umbra]

No shit sherlock haha

What is that supposed to mean

[fiery crow]

it means that there’s nothing stopping either or from being added to the game

[tulip umbra]

Ur the one that said the ammonite was too small? Not making much sense

[ancient dagger]

Late Jurassic DLC

Exhibit
Camptosaurus/Draconyx
Ceratosaurus
Diplodocus carnegii/hallorum/Barosaurus
Guanlong
Kentrosaurus
Mamenchisaurus constructus/sinocanadorum/youngi
Miragaia
Shunosaurus
Yangchuanosaurus

Vivarium
Anurognathus
Juramaia
Ornitholestes
Pterodactylus
Scaphognathus
Yinlong

Late Cretaceous Canada DLC

Exhibit
Albertosaurus/Gorgosaurus
Centrosaurus
Chasmosaurus belli/russelli
Corythosaurus
Daspletosaurus horneri/torosus/wilsoni
Dromaeosaurus
Ornithomimus edmontonicus/velox
Parksosaurus
Stenonychosaurus

Vivarium
Alphadon

[tulip umbra]

Ornitholestes not viv

[ancient dagger]

Small enough for consideration at least

[tulip umbra]

Its veloci sized

[coarse inlet]

it's pretty much the exact same size as Velociraptor and doesnt need any special movement

[outer moth]

What’s the fully grown estimate

[autumn plover]

We should get Albertosaurus with a Gorgosaurus alt.

It should have 3 skins with 2 going to Albertosaurus (one with feature scales and no feathers, one with feature scales AND feathers like Rex has brumal). 1 skin should go to Gorgosaurus (smooth/classic look, no feature scales or feathers).

In terms of how behaviour can be differentiated Gorgosaurus should be solitary, Albertosaurus should be quite social and a large theropod pack hunter.

Albertosaurus would be excellent for providing a predator for the Horseshoe canyon formation (Albertosaurus/E.regalis/P/canadiensis) and Gorgosaurus would provide one for dinosaur park (Gorgosaurus/Styracosaurus/Lambeosaurus/Parasauralophus).

I think both of these guys should be a 3⭐️ equivalent, this game doesn’t use a star system anymore, but should have the equivalent popularity. Both species have fans, but certainly aren’t as popular as animals like Baryonyx/Carnotaurus etc, they would make a great moderate-appeal addition.

I forgot to add: Tyrannosaurus is from the Maastrichtian, Yutyrannus and Guanlong were both cut previously and from far earlier. But both Albertosaurus and Gorgosaurus give great Campanian rep for the theropods.

[thorny parrot]

Metopacanthus would be a interesting animal to have in the game

[low bridge]

No what is that

More Cenozoic is needed

[thorny parrot]

Kauai o'o would be amazing. Could even get accurate sounds 🐦‍⬛

[low bridge]

Take him to the hospital, upside down face fish 😳😳

[low bridge]

First Mutant in game lol, sorry

[thorny parrot]

Two headed Leallynasaura would be fun🙃

[low bridge]

Nooooo

More Miocene Stuff would go Nice in game

[dusky obsidian]

More cenozoic animals

Is what the game needs after update 17

[low bridge]

Vote my poll

[dusky obsidian]

What poll

[abstract compass]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[low bridge]

On discussion channel

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-don't-think-i-will-cap-avengers-marvel-gif-6420739801263939210

[hexed pecan]

Some much older animals I think should definitely be included in the roster, at least post-early access: Dimetrodon (a no brainer really, with multiple potential skins/variants for the many different species), Insotrancevia (largest of the gorgonopsids, offers a look at one of Earth's top predators far before modern animals and dinosaurs) and Lisowicia (now that diictodon is ingame, a look at the largest dicynodont compared to one of the smallest would be interesting).

[shell sonnet]

Dimetrodon is more or less confirmed for post-EA

[thorny parrot]

I still kind of want to see Velociraptor osmolskae with a skin that's a bit blue at the crest and maybe other parts of the head

[fiery crow]

it’s insane to me just how big Lisowicia got

[fiery crow]

invertebrate wishlist:

1. Aegirocassis
2. Anomalocaris canadensis/daleyae
3. Arthropleura
4. Cameroceras
5. Gigatitan
6. Isotelus rex
7. Hibbertopterus
8. Jaekelopterus howelli/rhenaniae
9. Mazothairos
10. Meganeura
11. Meganeuropsis
12. Megarachne
13. Parapuzosia
14. Pulmonoscorpius
15. Tullimonstrum

[quick ore]

only a handful of these species are insects

did you mean "invertebrate"?

[fiery crow]

yes

[quick ore]

Titanomyrma
ain't no way

[fiery crow]

what is your point honestly.
people have requested Hallucigenia and Haikouichthys in the future and I haven’t seen you complain.
the double standards is WHACK.

[quick ore]

I'm against those too

I'm not having double standards here

[fiery crow]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

then prove it.

[quick ore]

I'm not sure what you are expecting of me

[fiery crow]

then. if you haven’t anything nice to say. you shouldn’t say it.

[quick ore]

I, huh?

[fiery crow]

you came off as being very rude (in my opinion) when you said this.

[abstract compass]

think i could look at that list and think "aint no way" but i would suggest u narrow it down abit atleast.

like say...

top 5-10

[quick ore]

ok I apologize

I didn't mean to be rude, I was just trying to state that I don't think that species is large enough to ever be included in the game

[dusky obsidian]

Let the man suggest his invertbrates💔

[dusky obsidian]

Parapuzosia good pick, megarachne isnt valid tho

It was actually a sea scorpion

[fiery crow]

I know that. I wasn’t thinking of that ‘Mesothelae spider’ thingy from WwM.

[quick ore]

that's what that was

it didn't exist

there were no giant spiders in the Carboniferous as far as we know

giant sizes in spiders only really began in the later portion of the Cenozoic

[fiery crow]

…I know it was a eurypterid.

[quick ore]

oh sorry you said "wasn't"

[dusky obsidian]

Oh yeaaaa

I forgot

[fiery crow]

would Mongolarachne have been too small too? I really wanna see it.

[abstract compass]

isnt sea scorpions invertebrates?

[dusky obsidian]

Megarachne isnt the giant spider anymore

Ah ya

[abstract compass]

yes but... sea scorpions are invertebrates

[dusky obsidian]

[abstract compass]

[dusky obsidian]

What

I wasnt replying to you

Huh

[abstract compass]

are they not or am i misunderstanding

for his list its fair game. popular name too. just not what people was expecting to begin with

[fiery crow]

…I think there’s been a giga misundastandin’ ere.

[dusky obsidian]

What

Vro

I was not even looking at ur texts

Im so confused

[abstract compass]

[fiery crow]

wasn’t talking to you. was talking to Grimnir.

[hollow furnace]

probably? I think you could maybe make it work?

[dusky obsidian]

Not you

Oh brother

[fiery crow]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[hollow furnace]

I think more importantly it wouldn't work well with the current vivarium setups at all

[dusky obsidian]

Im js confused on why grimnir responded to me

Even tho

I was on a comoletely diff topic

Bro what

Idfk

[abstract compass]

i asked a open question and answered my own open question after a quick search

autumn's list was a invertebrate wishlist

[dusky obsidian]

Seems to me theres just been a confusing misunderstanding

[abstract compass]

probably just me having a moment im not exactly medicated for my ADHD atm

[fiery crow]

anyways. anybody else for Asterotrygon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterotrygon

[hollow furnace]

I'm more of a Heliobatis fan myself

[abstract compass]

very pretty fossils

[hollow furnace]

Although if we did get a ray-adjacent thing my top choice would be Myledaphus

[fiery crow]

speaking of Chondrichthyes
DEVS! GIVE US AQUILOLAMNA AND MY LIFE IS YOURE!

[eager thunder]

Somehow I don’t think the mods do that

[fiery crow]

https://tenor.com/view/yourre-your-youre-gif-22326107

[abstract compass]

i too have this bad boy on my wishlist

[fiery crow]

can I see it

[abstract compass]

not on my pc rn since im at my parents. using a rowdy laptop while on holiday

[abstract compass]

iirc my lists were region based and i hadnt made one for aquatic animals yet

[last thistle]

PLEASE

[last thistle]

PLEASE PT.2

[tulip umbra]

Bro should not be talking abt double standards lol

.

[fiery crow]

bro idk what you’re talking about

[tulip umbra]

Haha, people do anything but say they were wrong

[abstract compass]

[tulip umbra]

Are there any theropods missing? Should any be removed? Open to suggestions

[fiery crow]

Falcarius
Lillensternus

[quick ore]

what do the colors indicate?

[tulip umbra]

Liliensternus is in under Dilopho in Neotheropoda top left

Ill look into Falcarius

[fiery crow]

Berthasaura

[quick ore]

oh quick note it's *terrestrial

[tulip umbra]

Haha, a list with hundreds of species and my spelling mistake is in terrestrial 🤦‍♂️

[quick ore]

oh also it's *Masiakasaurus not Masiakosaurus

other than that this looks great tbh, though idk if you forgot to include other mesozoic birds or are purposefully leaving them out

[tulip umbra]

Ive got them organised in meso, paleo, cenozoic and land, water, air

[tulip umbra]

Seems to only be known from a subadult specimen, a little on the fence on it

[quick ore]

I would add Kunpengopterus. It's a unique Wukongopterid and would fit perfectly in an arboreal vivarium

also s/o to Peteinosaurus, loved it in WWD

[fiery crow]

do you have Kuehneosuchus yet?

[tulip umbra]

Yes, in sauropsida. Getting some form of phylogeny tree im happy with while keeping it legible to a degree was tough for sauropsid, reptile, dinosaur

Wrong pic

[steep tulip]

Maybe add vespersaurus, eoabelisaurus, spectrovenator and marshosaurus
Up to you if you want to remove a couple

[shell sonnet]

I'll be blunt, my gut instinct would be to tell you to remove quite a few animals because they don't add much. But to be more strict about this:

• Deltadromeus shape is a complete mystery to us; don't include it.
  -You're missing Falcarius, Saurornithoides, and Afrovenator.
  -If you're going to include Hesperornis, you need to include Ichthyornis, Confuciusornis, and Anchiornis. Especially the first one because it's perfect for the semi-aquatic vivarium being something of a sea bird
  -Hesperornis honestly shouldn't be there; it's a rather big animal (at over 6 ft in height) that needs a full habitat aquarium to work
  -Patagopetryx is the size of a chicken, it's a vivarium animal
  -Think what animals work as alts to others and combine them. Once you do that, then come back with this. Some of your groups I think have too many animals.

[fiery crow]

I would say Ichthyornis could work as a hybrid Arboreal + Amphibious animal

[left spear]

Eh

Just put It in another type of vivarium

They're kidna inevitable

So put It on a coastal/tide pool or however you want to call It vivarium

[quick ore]

Ischigualastia and Lystrosaurus should be there imo, as should Didelphodon and Rutiodon

[tulip umbra]

Flight capable animals are separated, what would afrovenator add?

[tulip umbra]

.

[shell sonnet]

A better Megalosaur than comes from the clade opposite of the three you did include?

[tulip umbra]

I can agree on Deltadromeus, i just added him to fill the gap lol
Patagopteryx sure
Hesperornis is here cuz this is a list of literally everything, even some bivalves

[tulip umbra]

Just looks like another Megalosaur, lacking in popularity in comparison to Megalo and Torvo

[shell sonnet]

What exactly does Ekrixinatosaurus, Metriacanthrosaurus, Proceratosaurus, Duonychus, Achillobaltor, etc. add?

All animals can seem extra.

I wouldn't say it's a must have, but it does add something to the roster.

[left spear]

Procerato is a decent alt

Duonychus aswell

Also it's a wishlist not a rationallist

[shell sonnet]

The list doesn't exactly combine alts together.

[left spear]

Still doesn't make them unfitting additions

[tulip umbra]

Thx i see now that i can remove ekrix and deltadromeus together without leaving a gap they were both gap fillers at some point before i restructured it haha

[left spear]

How the list is written is irrelevant

[fiery crow]

^^^

[left spear]

This kind of weird picks are inevitable, we all have a few.

[fiery crow]

I personally wanna see Metriacanthosaurus myself

[left spear]

It's a good Yang alt

[tulip umbra]

I would remove Lythro, but he had some history with pk so left it
Same for Mei, but i kinda wanted all Prehistoric Park animals on here

[left spear]

Hey, Lythro is one of my irrational soft spots

I just think it's neat

[shell sonnet]

No one would care about Metria if Paul hadn't lumped Yang under it, meaning it end up on a prop no one saw a clear image of until it was uploaded on the internet, and then JP fans didn't do obsess about prop canon thus leading to its inclusion on the JW website and thus JWE.

[left spear]

True

But metri is still a good Yang alt

[shell sonnet]

It's an ass bone and some vertebrate columns that comes from a marine deposit.

[left spear]

Considerably smaller and a fun reference

[shell sonnet]

Sinoraptor is the better Yang alt

Heck Sinoraptor comes from the place as Guanlong

[left spear]

Same if not better than argent

[shell sonnet]

You act as if I would have included Argentinosaurus.

[left spear]

Still

[shell sonnet]

The devs did because it's a big name

Metria is not

[left spear]

What i mean is that it's fragmentary nature is not that relevant

[left spear]

Metria is a very solid middle name

And fame arguments are lame either way

[tulip umbra]

I think i should make clear, my criteria for my ultimate list are an animal needs at least a strong point in either
Good fossil representation (Sinornithomimus)
Name popularity (Therizino)
Uniqueness (Balaur)
Or a strong enough combination of the three
Also personal preference ofc also plays some role

[digital pendant]

its a fun list

a bit unrealistic all things considered because of the amount of animals, but its got neat stuff and its pretty varied

[tulip umbra]

Thx, i know very well its unrealistic (its even got a unique cenozoic giant seasnail). I just like making lists and categorising things. It initially spiralled out of a basic species list for jwe lol.

[digital pendant]

lmao fair

its fun to come up with such lists

got a ceno list on hand?

curious about that one

[tulip umbra]

I think its easier if i just link it, its google sheet. If thats allowed

[digital pendant]

if you dont have an issue sharing it sure

[tulip umbra]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qD_Ply7Qbmq_6OxreYpIaygng04mWrA9ltDkpgVRB2I/edit?usp=drivesdk

It might be overwhelming at first lol, but it is hope its readable

[digital pendant]

yeah its a lot for sure lol

[cosmic cosmos]

Ferrodraco with a Thaapunngaka alt would be good pterosaur coverage for Auztralia (one from Winton fmt and the other from Toolebuc fmt)

[fiery crow]

you could add Numidotheriidae for both Numidotherium and Phosphatherium

[cosmic cosmos]

Im sorry, but Varanus as vivarium is diabolical

[tulip umbra]

Oh shit overlooked that haha mb

Thx for pointing it out

[safe willow]

lizard in prison

[shell sonnet]

For the Permian, I would recommend some alts for Edaphosaurus (there's quite a few species), Titanophoneus (alt of Anteosaurus), Estemmenosuchus mirabilis (the larger of the two but keep both), and consider Glanosuchus macrops, Tiarajudens eccentricus, Jonkeria truculenta, and Deuterosaurus biarmicus. Consider Loxomma and Neopteroplax if you want more large Carboniferous animals alongside Eryops and Anthracosaurus. Also Thrixanodon and L. murrayi are Triassic.

[flint sable]

coty in U19 trust

[fiery crow]

@tulip umbra if you wanna know who just requested edit access. that was me.

[tulip umbra]

Thx ill look into it and correct lystro + thrinaxo

[tulip umbra]

? I didnt get anything

[fiery crow]

huh

[tulip umbra]

Feel free to copy it and make ur own adjustments on ur side
idrc

[left spear]

Drive notifications take a million years to arrive

[toxic oriole]

No need for Titanoboa anymore on lists

So uhhh

Madtsoia genus when???

And I'm counting the entirety of it

Both its Mesozoic and Cenozoic counterparts

[left spear]

Which one

[toxic oriole]

The one from Madagascar, and the other three

[left spear]

Because vivs don't have alts

[toxic oriole]

... Okay then

[left spear]

Maeverano's?

[toxic oriole]

I'll take Madagascar

M. madagascariensis

[tulip umbra]

Unfortunately it would still require a lot of work to make a new snake

[left spear]

Ehh

You could just recycle animations tbh

[toxic oriole]

I mean, if they got Titanoboa's rig set up, couldn't they reuse that?

[tulip umbra]

Cuz rn it only works for titanoboa without any size difference

[left spear]

Modify slightly the mouth movements are you're set really

[tulip umbra]

Making titano slightly bigger or smaller would break his animations

[left spear]

They can still downsize the animations right

[shell sonnet]

Honestly, if we need another snake, I'd rather get an early one when they still had tiny hind limbs

[toxic oriole]

You sure about that?

Image unrelated

[left spear]

Those are tiny

And sure they fit in lenght but they would be like 8cm wide

[tulip umbra]

Given that titano does not have a size slider for a reason, i dont think its that simple

[left spear]

Welp

[toxic oriole]

I still want Madtsoia regardless

[left spear]

For a second snake is Palaeo with way so

[tulip umbra]

Ofc

[fiery crow]

counter-argument: Sahonachelys

[toxic oriole]

NEED MORE MADAGASCAR REPRESENTATION!!!!!!

[left spear]

Madtsoia itself is cool but not ultra needed i'd say, any madtsoid will do really

[left spear]

Sahonachelys is not 8 cm wide

Honestly i think i'm oversizing It even

[toxic oriole]

I'll be fair here, the turtle that showed up in this update is something I never knew about

[fiery crow]

it’s still ppppppprrrrrrrrrreeetttttttttttyyyyyy damn small

[toxic oriole]

And its ALSO a madagascar representative alongside Simosuchus?

[tulip umbra]

I love him

[tulip umbra]

Yes

[left spear]

Like Najash is just too thin imo

[fiery crow]

not a lot of people did tbh, he was definitely a massive surprise to me too

[toxic oriole]

Guess thats two Madagascar species implemented, from the Mesozoic at least

[fiery crow]

what about Diablophis?

[flint sable]

Najash wrapped around itself in a coil would probably be about the same size as a Sahonachelys's shell

[left spear]

Not a snake

[fiery crow]

related to them iirc

[left spear]

As much as Megalania

It's a squamate

That's it

[shell sonnet]

In terms of area, Najash would be bigger than the turtle

[fiery crow]

Arboreal or Terrestrial 🤔

[left spear]

By lenght

[left spear]

Idk tbh

[toxic oriole]

Now we come to the question of a Madagascar pack

Seeing how we have Simosuchus and... Sahonachelys, is that what its called?

[flint sable]

yeag

[fiery crow]

#1360542295228944414 message

just gonna give myself a shoutout

[left spear]

Honestly

[toxic oriole]

Not a bad pick

I'd like some Cenozoic representation there too, so uhhh

[left spear]

There's a lot of stuff but i think It should be a single mixed DLC with Cenozoic

[toxic oriole]

Elephant Bird or something

[flint sable]

prolly

[left spear]

1 Madagascar pack is unrealistic let alone 2

[flint sable]

lowk sad we got absolutely 0 fossil record from madagascar within like

a 66 million year gap

for essentially the entire cenozoic except the pleistocene

and even then thats only there because its so recent

[left spear]

Like Majung, Masiaka, beel, Archaeoindris, Vorombe and a ceno mini

[toxic oriole]

And I do know theres that one small hippo of Madagascar that used to exist?
Y'know what nevermind

[left spear]

What happened to that islands geology

[quick ore]

aside from one coastal fossil site with scant remains

from earlier in the cenozoic

[flint sable]

oh there is?

well thats better than nothing, I thought it was like literally 0

[quick ore]

yeah, most notably revealed a sirenian

[left spear]

Random ass pliocene site with 3 fish a turtle and a pinniped vertebrae i imagine

[flint sable]

I mean its stayed relatively the same shape for a very long time and is also in the middle of a tectonic plate

so its pretty stable

[left spear]

Eh close enough

[flint sable]

all things considered

[fiery crow]

Mahajangasuchus 🗣️

[quick ore]

also it is a lot of rainforests

which are Bad for fossils

[flint sable]

that too

[toxic oriole]

I know that the Moa is most likely coming to the game in the future, but uhhh
What of the Elephant Bird of madagascar? I don't remember a discussion of this

[left spear]

Kapro alt

[left spear]

If we get an Island pack it's very likely imo

[flint sable]

all kapro got going for it is the name

[quick ore]

Aepyornis will likely get added in RE

[flint sable]

objectively speaking

[left spear]

So does argent

[flint sable]

touche

[left spear]

And arguably carch

[flint sable]

carch lived with spino at least so thats something

[left spear]

Well Carch has Kem Kem ig

[fiery crow]

Adalatherium 🗣️

[left spear]

If only

[fiery crow]

Araripesuchus 🗣️

[toxic oriole]

Early Triassic temnospondyl amphibian of Madagascar, I doubt that might be a thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edingerella

... Hmmm

Hows about the Giant Aye-Aye for PK?

[cosmic cosmos]

So does kapro lol

[left spear]

Rather we get other small land crocs tbh

Meko or Ogre

[fiery crow]

uhh Megaladapis?

[flint sable]

prolly not

I mean

lowk

[toxic oriole]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_aye-aye

[flint sable]

you might be able to get the sloth lemurs to work inside of a Vivarium

if you made them essentially behave like actual slothes

[fiery crow]

https://tenor.com/view/gwimbly-grimbly-smiling-friends-dance-victory-dance-gif-3748978671174639500

[left spear]

Single one on the biggest one

Otherwise hell naw

[flint sable]

yeah thats what i meant

maybe 2

[fiery crow]

I’d rather get Megaladapis or Archaeoindris

[flint sable]

it would be exclusively the biggest one, also would come with a bigger climbing set obv

[left spear]

Stretch longer than a Titanoboa

[flint sable]

what

oh ok

[left spear]

Lol

[toxic oriole]

Mesozoic Madagascar never had any pterosaurs, so thats something peculiar

Then again

[flint sable]

I was confused for a second and thought you were talking about like