#Community Species Suggestions
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The least social ceratopsid by far
None of the current centrosaurines we have make sense solitary
Triceratops suits small groups
But Penta would suit solitary
Misnomer as it may be, and this isn’t a valid reason to add it… I just really like its name
its one of the weirdest ceratopsids
I mean in a perfect world we’d get Chasmo/Penta/Tricera, but we already have a few ceratopsians, so if we only get a few more Pentaceratops is the best choice for a chasmosaurine
May be standard on large headed, long frilled ones, at least going by Ojo Alamo torosaurs
torosaurus is also cool
I’m not as much a fan for its inclusion, it’s too similar to Triceratops. It’s main distinguishing feature is also found on Pentaceratops which is more distinct.
But yeah, I believe Penta covers stuff from both Chasmo and Toro quite well
I'd stay away from Triceratopsins
^
I think the centrosaurins should be the model for chasmosaurines
They’re all reasonably distinct from one another
Trike, Penta and Chasmo works well for a trio
Perhaps a Chasmo-lineage like Kosmo as an alt
Chasmosaurus belli/russelli + Kosmo alt is a solid DLC pick
I don't get the sense that Penta has particularly long legs in comparison to others. I think people sometimes confuse Frontier's/JW's style choice with reality.
wtf is this from lol
Well, the postcrania is still nevertheless unique
Also adding one of the ceratopsids whose body we have preserved is good
^even without especially long legs, pentaceratops still has that weird hump that no other ceratopsian has in that picture
only Anchiceratops comes close, which makes sense as it's somewhat closely related
Penta is my favourite of all ceratopsians
With the huge head and posture it stands out pretty well
Its also alot larger than I thought it was
The hump isn't that unique, Utahceratops also has. A big problem of course is that the post-cranial remains of Chasmosaurines are hard to find.
This isn't a knock on Penta, I think it should come
"has in that picture"
I just rather get Chasmo first, and add something for Dinosaur Park
Neanderthals
Besides it makes sense, Utahceratops was very closely related to Pentaceratops
they look pretty long and slender here
Sure, but not really any more than most of the others
Pachyrhinosaurus's are similar but compared to Styracosaurus and especially Triceratops
they're definitely lanky looking
but I think the shape of the torso and neck help accentuate it
Eh..How chunky you make the legs strikes me as much of artistic interpretation as reality.
yeah but I think that the big thing is that the taller torso shape makes Pentaceratops taller even if the limbs seem variable
plus the tall frill
it's got a very vertical presence
I like this
Acroceratops
I've heard strong arguments from the both sides
Wonder where is Pyrotherium??
Sentenced to have this discussion every week
Imo the best crocs if you could only have a few: Postosuchus (iconic, bipedal and from triassic), Deinosuchus (iconic and classic, also large), Stomatosuchus (i think better than Sarcosuchus, very odd lifestyle, lived alongside spinosaurus), Desmatosuchus (another triassic, herbivorous, and quite odd looking), & Barinasuchus (better choice than another carnivorous quad croc like saurosuchus as it came from the cenozoic, and from its own group). Bonus, if we got aquatics, metriorhynchus would be good.
You get a lot of variety with these picks in lifestyle, size, diet, clades & popularity
i'm not particularly interested in just having the big three, i'd like more variety, only one would be good.
I want purussaurus as well
theres so many I want actually
they trying to slime my goat
To be fair if we were to assume the neotype is accepted then we could easily get a triple alt split
Troodon formosus
Troodon sp.
Saurornithoides mongoliensis
Maiasaura 😼
Mini exibit
is that a turtle?
or ankylosaur
if its an ankylosaur
im almost 100% certain that I already know what one it is
Dinosaur Park, Prince Creek and Djadotcha is IMO the best approach; forest, polar and desert birbs
and it was not semiaquatic or even aquatic at all compared to other ankylosaurs as far as we know
on the other hand
if its a turtle?
sure why not
turtle fun
and if its not a turtle but close enough?
sure why not
turtle* fun
Its a placodontian sauropterygian
Most famous member of its group is henodus I believe?
But they were quite turtle like
Would love to get one ingame
Henodus
Struck gold while searching for info
Shame website seems to have been taken down, I would have bought one of these 100%
The picture is of Psephoderma
Its not psephoderma because the snout it too short
Its probably a close relative
Reminds me of emiliano trocos art
carnotaurus and amargasaurus are must
Carno is soft-confirmed
both are from the bonaparte expedition, was rly iconic
Bonapartenykus?
I haven't kept up with this chat so idk what has and hasn't been suggested too much,
So imma suggest 4 enclosure and 4 vivarium species (and try to avoid leaked/likely/mentioned species for base game and that one DLC idea from way back)
So (and this is tough lmao) here are the four each I'm feeling rn I guess (would be cool to see)
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also damn I didn't think of any small pterosaurs for the vivarium
but uh
that would be neat to be considered idk
will gladly be waiting Prehistoric Kingdillion years for any/all of these to find their way into the game
what alt text?
wait is it not showing up
damn I wrote a ton of stuff 💀
i'll see if I can go into edit message and copy paste that into its own message
it seems I cannot
okay apparently we need to go into settings and turn this on
weird it's not on by default
oh ok
but also Australovenator is a based choice it is easily my most wanted Megaraptoran
Hmm...I'm thinking for Cenozoic species...Glyptodon, Megalania, and Dire Wolves (the real ones, not those hybrid grey wolf fakes that Colossal made)
I dont see enough love for Gerrothorax the devils pancake
You would mostly find him at the bottom of your vivaria watching for prey to swim over it
Fun fact: unlike most jawed animals, he can only move his upper jaw. Meaning when he opens his mouth, his eyes also shift so he cant see what hes eating.
Looks like the type to dig in and not move at all 😄
Yes, hes also got a super flat body
you're onto something here
the first image 😭
Paleoparadoxia goated
yeah I like them too , I think some of them are semi aquatic right ?
Yes,at least desmostylus and behemotops, tho its still debated for both
and maybe it's the habitat semi aquatic mammal
thought that was Desmostylus for a second
Megalania was featured in some old concept art, so hopefully it will return in the future.
would be dope to see all of these species in game
I expect at least Megatherium and Kelenken to be added in Update 19, with Daeodon and Hyaenodon returning after EA.
Procranioceras would be dope
Isn’t this a Pokemon or something
Honestly, Procranioceras isn't an animal that has appeared much in media, so I hope it's added in PK.
Synthetoceras also Fits
Prolibytherium would go crazy
what do you mean by fits
Procranioceras is such a sleeper pick
But a cool one nonetheless
They should add the Bezel of Bufos and yes this is a very original ask
Beelzebufo is a generally cool idea, but I kind of feel like some people overestimate it when they request it for the game
still decently big for a frog, but yeah nothing crazy
It’s big but not the biggest frog, not even among extant taxa
As usual
Name doing heavy lifting
At least from developement standpoint it is incredibly easy addition
I still want the frog
Imagine vivarium with 50 of them
There's also the question if Beezelbufo is big enough
Probably big enough for the smaller ones
how big that Eocene one ?
big
its known from a single bone as of right now tho
It's also a
what isn't described yet ?
So uhh Yuanchuavis is a cool guy I like him
Enantoucan from Madagascar c'mon
Wish we had more than just the upper half of the skull
Oh you're talking about Enantoucan
Well Falcatakely
That's quite neat for an Enant
Still hoping we get an Avisaurid skull someday
Falcatakely and an Avisaurid are both incredibly interesting enant vivarium stuff, AND based on very scarce remains
Sure, but it would be nice to put an actual wingspan to it
(It's a cool animal though)
Is there anything regarding avisaurus outside big size?
How do we even reconstruct it
With rather speculative bird of prey ecology
Eretmorhipis and Hupehsuchus
Tyrannosorus rex for Terrariums 2025-2026
I don't want to imagine his bite force lol
Toddler consumer
Although keep in mind since the animal is so fragmentary It might have different proportions hence different size
yeah , but I think most frog's have big head proportionally
Legs are built for seizing prey
ngl Falcatakely could be a cool vivarium bird for a Madagascar pack
One quadrilion vivariums to madagascar (good)
Tbh they aren't even that many
Just a good number
We might get another one in ea at least
Synthetoceras, Prolibytherium, Menoceras
Take Dude
Idk anything
Barinasuchus lowkey fraud at this point. Bro is not getting into documentary like ever 🥀
I guess we will suffice with one in PK
When we inevitably end up getting “mutants” and such from Rebirth, do you think we’ll just get the 2 or get new ones? Maybe even that 2 headed raptor that does literally nothing
wrong thread I think lol
I apologize for being stupid
Hey did you draw your pfp?
No
kitty?
Yes the diagramm is indeed a Cat and next to It a kitten
I can't tell how big that is, I measure in anime girls
0,25 frierens tall
nerpa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111
Oh I didn’t know it had a name :]
That’s like my favorite Gif
nerpa is just another word for baikal seal
Oh cool
Cane toad size. Be a cool vivarium species
diplodocus or barosaurus?
diplodocus
ik it's more popular but it's more similar to apato than baro which feels more unique in shape
nah diplo is better ig, it's less robust and has more elegant shape than apato and it's so iconic
Diplodocus xbillion
after stego these three would be great additions. diplo and cerato are must and ornitho would be cool
Diplodocus, Ceratosaurus, Ornitholestes, and Camptosaurus are the four horsemen of missing Morrison species
you forgetting the goat eilenodon
who? people coming up with names these days lmao
it's a morrison iguana lol
still cerato is the goat
we need cerato, carno and majunga all three
Someone walks up to you and offers you 10 thousend dollars but only if you breathe, would you make that deal?
Definitely
I'd also take Gargoyleosaurus or Mymoorapelta
Give Morrison ankylosaurs some love
Not at all
Baro is pretty much just slighty longer necked Diplo, and both are quite distinct from apatosaurines
To be honest Morrison ankylosaurs are probably "filler" animals for a Morrison DLC, but outside of their formation they're just these small basal nodosaurids
At their size range, their formation is the only thing keeping parankylosaurs, Struthiosaurus in a Hatzeg pack, and even Scelidosaurus from rendering them completely irrelevant
spicomellus my most wanted jurassic anky
stego and allo arent technically here yet
Lisowicia
daeodon is probably also one of my most wanted species ngl
hope to see it and the others (who aren't the likely two for EA) to return in the future
Dippy also may be adding something neat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYTwE4IXYKQ
Royal Society Open Science has today published “Fossilized melanosomes reveal colour patterning of a sauropod dinosaur” by Tess Gallagher et al. (2025). In this video, Tess offers an exclusive first look at the findings, their implications, and what exceptionally preserved mineralised skin from a juvenile Diplodocus at the Mother’s Day Qua...
very cool
It does seem like an interesting pattern that every plant eating non-avian dinosaur we've seen the colouration for (except maybe Edmontosaurus?) seems to have been a reddish-brown/orange. (assuming that is the colour of the animal here since it seems as if black scales are also an option.)
every plant eating non-avian dinosaur we have evidence of colour for is 4, and one is black and gray (indeterminate hadrosaur)
not unsurprising but interesting, but also yes
the notorious sample size
also tyrannosaurus coloration when
this is entirely serious
someday hopefully
2023
the remains are probably good enough
elaborate
Trust me i can see the present
ok buddy
Beip, Borealo and Taco came to mind here, i'm sure there's others too.
Could it have something to do with theropod vision? akin to tiger camuflage but more complex
maybe but I have a feeling its probably something to do with sample size
If we assume dinosaurs did not have the same level of colour vision as modern birds then maybe.
4/5 isnt exactly a high track record
I would imagine at the very least coleurosaurs would have had color vision comparable to most birds, which is quite good
And the number of large herbivorous non-avian dinosaurs we have evidence of colouration for is Psittacosaurus, Beipaiosaurus, Borealopelta, indeterminate hadrosaur, and now Diplodocus
So not exactly an exhaustive sample
someone should go check those out, theres probably something there
especially edmontosaurus
I would be thoroughly surprised if that wasnt the case
(the sauropod melanosomes do also overlap the morphospace of black melanosomes in Black camains apparently so they could be black in theory as well)
based on the preservation quality
Edmontosaurus preserves clay molds of the skin, not the actual skin (although that may be similar to the preservation of the Mother's Day quarry skin)
ahhhhh ok
would that be the case for all of the specimens of ed?
because I just had a funny thought
It's not enough to say this is a thing but it's definitely enough to make it something to keep an eye out for at least imo.
color analysis of the skins of two edmontosaurus thought to have been the same species, found to be entirely different colors
even in the same spots
Probably, that's part of the results of the Edmontosaurus mummy paper
probably
Idk, I don't know if the idea large animals were brown is that revolutionary
also is borealopelta lowk just absolutely insane in terms of its preservation quality for an animal of its size or what
because pretty much everything else with skin coloration either comes from a slab o' dinosaur rather than a full 3d "skeleton" or is literally just the skin
like we can only really tell three colours: brown-red-blond, black-grey, and iridescent
it seems like pretty much everything else on par with preservation quality is in slab form or is a signifigantly smaller piece, or both, with the only real rival being the edmontosaurus mummies, and those arent even particularly close IMO
i guess thats what you get for being essentially a living tank
a living tank deposited in a giant concretion
So we agree baby should be based on skin impressions, but adults are whatever?
sure
god it would be so cool if we could know t. rex's coloration even at all
I wonder the Likelihood of getting all the animals needed to make Nigel Marvens prehistoric park from
We have almost all of them at this point
Phorusrhacos is my most wanted terror bird tbh
T. rex, mammoths, Microraptor, Smilodon, Triceratops, and Elasmotherium are all in-game already. Furthermore, the generic 'titanosaurs' can easily be filled in for with Argentinosaurus. A blurry roadmap implies we'd get Deinosuchus in a wetland update, which only leaves Troodon, Ornithomimus, the "terror bird", Meganeura, Arthropleura, and Pulmonoscorpius
also im not sure if Dongbeititan is that likely to get added
the titanosaur would have been Dongbeititan
I think in that regard we’re missing Titanosaur Troodon Ornithomimus Terror birds cave hyena Arthropleura Mei long Incisivosaurus Albertosaurus Crassigyrinus Deinosuchus and one of them giant dragon flys
the terror bird is like, clearly Phorusrhacos
Meganeura wasn't a dragonfly it was a griffonfly
Well see now you're just stretching the goal post cause there's a difference between adding every animal in Prehistoric Park the TV series and adding every animal in Prehistoric Park, the location
what
No I was just curious
It’s on my list tho
I’m planning on watching a lot of Nigel’s stuff
I remember seeing them as a kid but I don’t remember too much
I was just looking off the wiki tbh
So was I lol
But there's a place that shows which animals are specifically in the zoo and which just show up while he's time travelling
Frankly I feel like a fraud but hey, I can appreciate Nigel for being cool
I mean you're only a fraud if you pretend to be a fan of the show without having watched it
And even then that's easily remedied
I’ll probably become one once i eventually see it
I can’t believe Nigel not only revolutionized genetic engineering but also discovered time travel
to be fair the show never explains where time travel came from
like the device is used every episode but it doesn't get any sort of backstory and it is highly unlikely that Nigel himself invented it
I wonder if in universe Nigel still did those documentaries and wanted to name the park prehistoric park but for copyright reasons he had to settle with prehistoric kingdom
hell, they don't even explain how the time travel itself works
Until you realise this is titanis, but show producers argued back then that titanis is somehow species under phorusrhacos genus or something like that lmao
It’s way funnier in my head that Nigel himself invented both because it turns him into a doc savage type 50s science hero
like there's zero talk of any disruption of the timeline or paradox stuff
wait what how
I can’t believe Nigel Marvin discovered time travel and parallel universes
Nigel isn't really the technological scientist type
So cool of him
I refer to this
he's a naturalist
yeah that's why it's funny
I can’t believe Nigel Marven got like, 3 separate degrees in 3 separate sciences and is the only dinosaur time travel geneticist zookeeper alive
What a accomplished man
Someone mind controlled them into thinking titanis is synonymus to phorusrhacos
Even narrator states during series that there arw phorusrhacos living in texas
Are we going to add Mind control onto Nigel’s accomplishments
meanwhile Nigel and the narrators' reasoning in the show why they didn't save certain animals:
yeah they never say that either
And when Nigel takes his notes to show prehistoric animals terror bird species is also noted as titanis
right
I still don't believe that lol
just send someone in with a net or something
and they don't even give a reason for the cave bear it just wanders back off and the narrator is like "Nigel cannot save everything" but why? lmao
Maybe it’s budgetary
Like he can’t afford an enclosure for all of them
I haven’t seen it I duno if that’s addressed or not
I also never really understood the point in the smilodon episode why they went back to when they were in their prime, and then when they decided to bring one to the park they wanted to spend extra time looking for them when they were barely hanging on?? (same for mammoths)
I think that was more for educational reasons than anything else
I mean I get it but it's kind of unfortunate because it's one of the coolest time machine takes imo
fair
It gets stated that Nigel wants to save animals when they are on their last legs simply because he is a conservationist at heart
Nigel is cave bear hater then lmao
even though it is pretty inconsistent with how it works
I mean yes but ultimately he'd be doing the same thing just going back to when they thrived, but it'd be way easier lol
I’m head cannoning this, duno if PK necessary has that kinda “lore” but yeah
as a kid I always wondered how the asteroid impact shockwave didn't go through the portal
I think that makes it funny he is making his entire project a challenge
he has a portal in the gate he goes through and that he comes out of when entering an old time, but then later he also has portable time machine poles that he sticks into the ground and twists to activate it, which lead back into the park gate
so when he sets up a new one back in time and goes through it back to the present... wtf happened to it lol??? How does he get it back?
I guess he doesn't
tbf I think it's just shown as the shockwave having not reached them yet
like it gets turned off and then the stakes are left there
I mean clearly he does he uses it every episode
unless new ones are being made for every trip
yeah
we're probably thinking about this more than the creators ever did
maybe the stakes aren't the actual time machine and just connect back to it
I know, I never really thought about it when I was younger either though tbf
that's probably it
maybe he just picks up the stakes he first enters back in time out of off screen and when he's shown putting them up again it's those same ones?
good enough explanation
either way now I'm curious: Do you prefer prehistoric park's premise or chased by dinosaurs/sea monsters premise more?
me?
yes
prehistoric park
as in the time travel being visible and relevant to an overarching plot vs Nigel just inexplicably being in Nemegt somehow
well Nigel does use time travel himself once in chased by dinosaurs
and it is unlike what he uses in prehistoric park
Nigel has upgraded himself to reality warped goody
This will be great for the vs wiki/j
Prehistoric park
I like them extinct animals in zoo setting
My favorite niche trope
fair but also consider how sick this timeline transition was 🙏 and then him just being there with this cool little info board and the cool sound
Especially went not limited to just Dino’s
a-
oh my god
Your shitting me
never visibly is what I meant
WHAT
no, he does
Nigel Marven having paradox immunity works well
I can’t believe Nigel Marven invented the paradox immune Time Machine
I was going to say with that + the seamless transition, and the narrator calling him a "time traveling zoologist" instead of a "zoologist who time travels" could imply it's just a power he has in that "verse" lmao
Yeah Nigel can just do that
oh my GOD lmao
I can’t believe Nigel Marvin could beat up Spiderman
"regeneration" "superhuman" 🥀 and people wonder why I hate powerscaling
Nah it’s cool cause it’s funny
what other characters are in his tier
I think you guys dont realise how high Nigel is when we take into account that tearing space feat
the hulk, pennywise, among other things 💀
Nigel Marvin pinning down pennywise “now you see this cosmic bugger is real crafty”
LMAOOOO
This is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen
well for some of them wasn't it because he was only taking them from points where they were an endangered species?
which is why he had to search for the mammoths at that one time point, but didn't collect any when he went further back in time
I scrolled a little down and someone already said this about the mammoths and smilodon but whatever we ball
I'm genuinely crying laughing rn and I don't do that often 💀
So this is how they feed the animals Nigel can just do that
Walks into the paddock and they know their place
1-C Nigel Marven casually destroying planets
hold on does this mean he no-diffs characters in any tier below him? that's fucking hilarious
Nigel Marvin fucking obliterating the doom patrol
Nigel Marven tearing open a triassic ocean portal and dropping a shastasaurus on pennywise:
This is the greatest mental visual
what did doom patrol do to deserve this 💔
Nigel warning his enemies about his full power:
They’re the Doom Patrol it’s their thing
Fighting an all powerful extinct animal zookeeper is definitely in their wheelhouse
before cutting Freddy Fazbear's (another 9-b character) head off with a time portal Dr. Strange style:
Nigel Marvin sending Darkseid to the Mesozoic extinction event with his time portals
"slip a sock over their head as soon as you cover their eyes they calm down-"
omfg
Nigel Marven vs Kratt Bros. Death Battle
this was literally a meme for a while tbf
I'm not surprised
pulling from all of Nigel Marven's shows and all of the Kratt's shows
what was it, one guy always posting about Wild Kratts vs Sephiroth or something lmao??
Nah they’d team up
it's a death battle
The Justice league for Zookeepers
and it'd be like "Chris getting a sperm whale power suit and breaking his bones" or smth
Nigel would be able to put up a fight even without a power suit given he can outrun dinosaurs and lifts all sorts of heavy animals
I mean yeah he is "superhuman" apparently 😭
what's so funny is that I don't think that page even accounts for anything in prehistoric park, it's just the WWD specials
Has Nigel ever outran a Carno?
which fair because they're clearly separate verses
not on screen but I bet he could
Cause that would put him ahead of the current fastest man alive
no it does
he has outran old t rex and tarbosaurus speed estimates
it mentions that separately though
the page isn't actually taking PrePark into account for stats afaik
me playing "BBC Brawlers" in 2030 after the up to date WWD special remakes dropped:
"I guess Nigel just needed to let go of the past and join a bunch of other cool zoologists in a fighting game!"
Canis lupus spelaeus
This would have a very different meaning for someone outside the UK
Having Megalosaurus to match with Iganadon thematically would be neat
It doesn’t really match with Iggy though, Baryonyx does more
Plus we already have Torvosaurus as megalosaur rep
Megalosaurus would’ve been an awesome alt to replace the inferior gemstone skin
Torvo tanneri/gurneyi + Megalo, akin to how there’s Parasaur walkeri/cyrtocristatus + Charono
Megalo and Iggy where the first 2 dinosaurs ever discovered I mean
Mantellisaurus second ever dinosaur
??
I don't even think that's true, Streptospondylus was named before the maidstone slab was found
Long story short, the original remains called Iguanodon are no longer considered to be Iguanodon, whose neotype has been transfered to a Belgium specimen found in the 1870's and was always considered a different species anyway. Instead the Mantell findings have either being transfered to other genera or considered nomen dubium.
Wait, wouldn’t that make future fossils not iguanadon and not the first?
Like if Torasuarus was discovered to just be a trike wouldn’t all Toros become Trikes?
Or am i confusing this
The think is that iguanodon is historically important enough and so much work has been done on the Belgian specimens using that name that discarding the name would create more confusion than changing the type species
This is why Tyrannosaurus rex was preserved instead of Manospondylus gigas
Or Plateosaurus trossingensis instead of the dubious type species P. engelhardti
Damn
I had a jwe2 build I was really proud of with Iganadon and Megalosarus at the entrance for thematic reasons and that kinda takes that out
Nah not really
They’re still very thematically connected
Like even if we can’t say for sure that Iguanodon anglicus is really Iguanodon, that’s still the animal the name was first applied to
Technically the Maidstone Slab specimen has pretty much always been considered a different species from I. anglicus
The real question is, should we add Hylaeosaurus?
Probably not
If we need a British nodosaur, Polacanthus is right there
One thing to remember is that Hylaeosaurus is like 5 million years older than the Wessex gang.
true Polacanthus is way better
And even Polacanthus I'd want to come as alt to Gastonia
Wouldn’t surprise me if Hylaeosaurus was a polacanthine
I feel 0 need to add the first 3 dinosaurs known to science purely on the fact that they were the first. If all that they bring to the table is being the first then there's no point. Iguanodon actually brings a lot to the table outside of being one of the first
and as HTP said, there are better choices for british nodosaurs
there are also better choices for megalosaurs (it's already in-game), and british theropods (Baryonyx is planned)
Majungasaurus
Madtsoia featured 🔥 🔥 🔥
a large theropod that would be cool to see would be Siats Meekerorum, lowkey the real-life Indominus Rex
No
Pretty sure they aren't even sure to what group this thing belonged to
We aren't even certain whether it is a carch, a megaraptor or a tyrannosaur
and big paleo doesnt want us to find out
🐐 🐐 🐐
none of what you think looks like Indominus in this reconstruction is something known from the animal
when I see skeletals showing just how little we actually have of a species someone suggested one of those soundbytes of a fart with reverb plays in my head
Its definitely not either of the last two
It's also from the bad part of Cedar Mountain, so that's another point against it.
Except it keeps getting recovered as that
its actually a really weird noasaur or abelisaur trust
Montanaspinus' true identity
I don’t see how it could be anything but an Allosauroid
It was too early for large tyrannosaurs and we have no evidence of Megaraptorans in NA
People were keen on carch Labocania as well
The long branch attraction is strong between those
And, well, megaraptorIDS are without a doubt Gondwanan, but there is weird stuff going on with Siats, Chilantaisaurus and Shaochilong
Because those are scrappy as hell
I searched up Labocania and this was the first image
For the record this is what it actually looks like
I hope devs add basking rocks for critters that you can place around/inside water
Also atopodentatus
Only in matrices with bad outgroups and poorly weighted characters
Siats ends up with Neovenator and kin more often than not
That entire grouping ends up as megaraptorans when there aren't enough carnosaurian outgroups in a matrix
No
https://discord.com/channels/173172667623407616/1299416017658839061 post it in enrichment suggestions, unless you count rocks as species
I felt like asking for it when no species can utilize it at the moment doesn't make too much sense
When the time comes maybe I will
stromatolite when
Tiktaalik but thats a whole different boat
also probably spino if big enough
but other than that nah
oMg gUyS mApU cOnFirMeD
Mau revenge arc
No problem dude i do my job
Mapusaurus for ea
Better have Alt to Classic Animal like in Paraceratherium case we have Juxia
Yeah
Mapu is underrated for 2 reasons: 1: It is Big, 2: It was a Pack Hunter
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we don't know that it was a pack hunter
there were 7 I think found at the same place in the same site
which can mean a lot of things
on a poll with 27 votes, yeah that represents community engagement
Bc community doesn't like to learn about animals that no one talks about
Or just don't care
🫣
Idk EZ mapusaurus is pretty popular..
Okay maybe not popular
But well known in the paleo circle
Allosaurus also was found in Mass Graveyard, Albertosaurus also
And Mapusaurus too
Dude
While that is interesting it doesn’t really counter my message
He was in D.P (2011)
Do we believe Mau U17 Pachycephalosaurus deconfirmation? If so, what do you think will be in its place?
We believe
We believe he lying
Dracorex cause damn badass name
I hate harry potter
Homalocephale goo goo gaga baby
10 species is real
Trust
Mau is quick to deconfirm stuff that won't happen
Yet he didn't with the 10th species
Idk It sounds surreal
Maybe it'll be Sivatherium
Like on the old map It was extremely obviously It was Pachycephalosaurus
And you can't just change a u17 species like that
I'm still on the boat of pachy + alts
YES
Why not?
No deinonychus without long tail ornithopod and two big spikes nodosaurid
They don’t have models far a head of time
Honestly Deinon with a fructivorous secondsry diet would go kidna hard
Not even all the vivarium species are finished
I mean that roadmap was made in what, u11? They most likely already had voicelines and concept art
Besides like
It's pachy
Would EXTREMELY weird if It wasn't in-game
That doesn't mean the animals haven't been shuffled around. Maybe Pachy got swapped with a U19 animal.
Trello is unchanged
I mean voice line animals have already been removed/rearranged, see Yi
That being said Pachy still fits the update just too well as one of the representative species for every facet of combat
And there’s no other fruitivores upcoming
Diets can also change
We need troodon cause frugivore, three alts, formation rep and smart
no
I mean tbh that could just be a slip or porpouseful
leave that shit behind fuck JK Rowling
Porpuseful
Yeah but this way of thinking doesn't fit my agenda
Porpoise for update 17?????
Dracorex will be in game but it will be called "Pachycephalosaurus at below 50% age"
Idk man island german is hard
ok Horner
*Stygimoloch
Dracorex is for little kids
Rowling aside it's just a terrible name that doesn't represent the animal at all
Child play
*Dracorex
Real men ask for atopodentatus
I won't even bring up the species name
I mean, it not a terrible dragon
can Homalocephale be an exhibit animal? it's about taco sized right
Dracorex is a sick ass name, it's the species name that's cringe as fuck
Definitely
Also depends what you choose to do for adult homalocephale
Idk like it's spiky ig
I think so
I've heard its just a juvenile and the adult might have been similar to preno tho
It's a bit lazy imo
you literally don't need Dracorex as a pachycephalosaur when Pachycephalosaurus, Stygimoloch, and Prenocephale exist
From the early cretaceous
idk if any of them are synonyms tho
Also that, it's a bit inconsequential
I'd rather have 2 pachys + stigy than a three way alt
And i'm a sucker for alts in general
remember when Pachycephalosaurus was randomly reconstructed as being like, T. rex sized in older paleoart?
I hope it does this in-game
wait genuine question; how plausible would some fluff be on a Pachycephalosaur? like besides quills
50/50
I mean, firmly plausible
Fuzz is decently complex, i'd only call quills and similar to be basic feathering
Quills like on taco is not bad
Quills probably quite likely, more advanced forms if are not impossible but i wouldn't say likely either
They just seem more scale coded to me
Entirely possible
We don’t have evidence to suggest it and all other marginocephalians we have integument for don’t, but integument seems to potentially be quite variable and pachycephalosaurs diverged from ceratopsians in the Early Jurassic so there’s a lot of divergence between the two
I've always had a soft spot for recons like these, despite how they may be implausible
just aesthetically pleasing to me
reminds me of mountain goats and stuff
First guy looks like he's wearing a fluffy jacket
First one a bit much but I really like the second one as well
I wouldn't mind the second one if it was a lilbit less extreme
personally I'd want something like this
This basically all scaly
Looks like iguana quills
I meant the feather length itself, not the skin to feather ratio
Oh lol
I rather all scaly
Its not their fault they are dead, but these stinky ass critters couldn't set on anything like damn
Pick a side
10th species is fr
Not a chance lol
sometimes I wonder what the future could have had in store for Pachycephalosaurus in a timeline where the asteroid never hit
I can imagine some proper megafaunal species evolving
would have been cool
Spread of grasslands and death
I'm itching for the species reveals
Survives on a random island until colonialism hit them and rats ate all their eggs
If noasaurs survived they would be ruling south africa atm
Imagine, if some non-avian dinos survived on NZ
Just for us to learn that bunch of maoris ate last remaining individuals 500 years ago
But question is wheter these would even survive to holocene
Cause what kind of stuff must have been happening there for even crocs and turtles to go extinct lol
Until there was a mass extinction i doubt they would diversify much
But if Hadrosaurs/Ceratopsians went extinct/ Lost as lot of diversity on North america i could see them becoming the Next dominant middle-sized herbivorous dinosaur group
They probably reproduced steadily fast
With no competition whatsoever they could diversify pretty easily imo
I think caenagnathids would become dominant
I feel like maniraptora would become more dominat with time with other clades dying to the point of being the last remaining dinosaurs group
Eh
Nah
Well atleast like
On a reasonable time frame
Obviously if we're talking like 100my+ then sure
But without a k-pg or p-t style extinction i doubt non-maniraptorams would just die off
Thyreophorans specially seem like a hardy bunch to me
Hadrosaurs would thrive with the expansion of grasslands
They’re already well adapted to processing bulk amounts of tough plant material
Yeah hadros were the best at chewing in the history of life
He’s very clearly lying
Is he?
Maybe he isn't and we're getting Micropachycephalosaurus instead
Yup, see? seems legit to me
Corythoraptor cause I just saw an ai video of horrendously unrealistic corythoraptor in a zoo and I wanna recreate it
You’re falling for this?
He said his reasoning for it not being in the game was “head too thick”
Oh I am stupid
I mean
its a pretty damm strong reason
indeed it head too thick
I see what you did there…
I literally called Mau a “known liar”
Magyarosaurus
Oh how the turns have tabled
as a When Dinosaurs Roamed America enthusiast… please give us Rutiodon in the future
I’d really like to see some non-dino/synapsid Triassic representation in the future in general honestly. I think Shringasaurus and Sillosuchus would also be cool.
Definitely
Rebirth spino looking ass
I would shell out for a Triassic DLC for sure
I would be disappointed; too many things from there I want.
I hope atopodentatus is in it
Atopodentatus is like a marine pack.
Postosuchus. Carnufex. Hyperodapedon. Hupehsuchus. Tanystropheus. Effigia. Sharovipteryx. Odontochelys. Mastodonsaurus. Euparkeria. Morganucodon. Atopodentatus. Nothosaurus. I could go on.
Agreed
get us some non-mammal Cenozoic reps too.
Valid lol
PK: Triassic, a spinoff game with 100 species
maun you specialized on paleozoic animal , right ?
I wonder what you like to see in the game
Wasn't it semi aquatic?
If no atopo then tany
I made my highschool research paper on the Ordovician so id say so
Yeah but they said no diving till they can do an aquatic dlc
Plus, it's a mostly marine animal
Megalodon. Gastornis. Argentavis. Anthropornis. Carbonemys. Barinasuchus. Boverisuchus. Quinkana. Meiolania. Varanus priscus. Trilophosuchus. Titanomyrma.
I’d say non-vivarium semiaquatic stuff could be limited to croc type lifestyle for now
Titanomyrma is way too small
Endoceras, Anteosaurus, Jaekelopterus, Secodontosaurus and Heterosteus due to it and Endo being from my home country
I think I need to see some bivalves as background for vivarium's
Endoceras is also the best nautiloid to add in my opinion
when it comes to the Paleozoic period if I were to list everything I wanted I’d accidentally end up spamming this channel.
Shikamaia, Megalodon and Inoceramus are the best candidates
lol
Shikamaia in particular
NEED INOCERAMUS
I think tany works without diving tho
Maybe better than crocodilians
if we get a marine dlc then we gotta have it
Depends which interpretation of it’s lifestyle we’re going for
Very odd bivalve
I stand by this for the initial set
PK Marine
Geosaurus giganteus or Dakosaurus maximus
Ichthyosaurus communis/anningae
Pleisosaurus dolichodeirus
Kronosaurus queenslandicus/Monquirasaurus boyacensis
Mosasaurus hoffmanni or Tylosaurus proriger
Dunkleosteus terrelli
Basilosaurus cetoides
Leedsichthys problematicus
Pterygotus grandidentatus or Jaekelopterus rhenaniae
Parapuzosia seppenradensis
either it or Cameroceras (or both) in my opinion.
I think we need some armored fish or the largest fresh water fish that ever lived
Rhizodus would rule
Cameroceras these days is a bit small compared to Endoceras
All the big species of it are now Endoceras instead
Rhizodus I would love to see
Criminally underrated fish
a lot of people say they’d be scared of swimming with Megalodon but the idea of stepping into a lake with Rhizodus inside of it scares me way more honestly.
Thought it being partially terrestrial is pretty safe to assume
Afaik it had additional ligaments to prevent its body to fall onwards, so it probably stayed outside the water a fair bit
I feel a lot of people underestimate just how deep a lot of rivers/lakes are.
My pitch:
base aquatic species
Plesiosaurus
Ichthyosaurus
Mosasaurus
Marine DLC Pack
Elasmosaurus
Dunkleosteus
Otodus
Cymbospondylus
Basilosaurus
Metriorhynchus
Xiphactinus
Hesperornis
Anomalocaris *
An ammonoid of some kind*
Pterygotus*
Mixosaurus*
Freshwater DLC Pack
Rhizodus
Pannoniasaurus
Onchopristis
Leptocleidus
Mastodonsaurus
Stupendemys
Sarcosuchus
Vancleavea
Champsosaurus*
Hibbertopterus*
Titanoboa*
Henodus*
are the asterisks for vivie animals?
where is Eurhinosaurus
the other goat whos less cool then cymbospondylus
would also have a pliosaur in the base roster
Yes
probably Liopleurodon
If I was adding all the ichthyosaurs I wanted to there’d be nothing else
Nice
Oh shit you’re right how’d i forget
I think we have a lot of Kronosaurus and Pilosaurus but not liop
they should add Spinofaarus as an April Fools joke.
Lio the one that fits better if plesio is in
So we have animals of varying sizes
Plesiosaurus wasn't very big
they are very underrated
My marine pack pitch but it’s all ichthyosaurs (and co.):
Cymbospondylus
Eurhinosaurus
Ophthalmosaurus
Guizhouichthyosaurus
Temnodontosaurus
Shonisaurus
Platypterigius
Ichthyotitan
Hupehsuchus*
Mixosaurus*
Eretmorhipis*
Grippia*
No Koolasuchus? Cringe!
The amount of aquatic animals I want in the game is so big, Im probably not going to see half of them
ichthyosaur sweep
I think the mosasaurs are slightly cooler overall
but ichthyosaurs are an incredibly close second for marine reptiles
me but for Prionosuchus… god he’s so cool…
I think Ichthyosaurs and Plesiosaurs are tied
Mosasaurs are neat but nowhere near as weird
I remember hearing that the large mosasaur body plan evolved a few times in the separate lineages
I go back and forth on whether I like ichthyosaurs or plesiosaurs more tbh
if thats true then yeah they're pretty weird
At least 4 I think
Which rules
4 is the number I've heard
just the inherent terrestrial species becoming marine again always leads to weird things
since none of them do it the same way
Mosasaurs were turning into ichthyosaurs by the end tho
was plotosaurus a weird offshoot or were all the last mosasaurs doing this stuff
Bro looks like if Meat canyon made an icthyosaur
Just a weird one
Others were weird in other ways
yeah thats just the marine reptile thing
Meanwhile if I had to choose a mosasaur roster with unlimited budget:
Mosasaurus
Tylosaurus
Globidens
Plotosaurus
Pannoniasaurus
Phosphorosaurus
Megapterygius
Khinjaria
bro’s head is the size of a walnut 😭
Mosasaurs didn't have enough time to experiment with bodyplans
would you not include the weird basal mosasaurs
All things considered they were pretty diverse still
I would as vivarium stuff
Just forgot to put that
Pannoniasaurus is pretty plesiomorphic tho
And then with plesiosaurs I’d be suffering to choose 8
Yeah?
its almost like theres so many cool marine reptiles
That’s what I saw saying
Umoonasaurus is an underrated Plesiosaur https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-1240w,f_auto,q_auto:best/msnbc/Components/Photos/060707/060707_umoon_hmed_9a.jpg
Placodus prob has a 0.00000001% chance of making it in
But I will cope
Well then i'm sorry, the wording makes it sound otherwise lol
I only know this guy from jwtg
I was saying of my 8 proposed full exhibit species one of them is rather plesiomorphic
when it comes to this game I honestly feel like anything is possible. don’t put your hopes down just yet.
Also Abyssosaurus
Had larger eyes for deep water
seems a bit weird for a reptile
this picture of it is really creepy
Sir that's just a viperfish
hot take: I think that we should focus on the three “-saurs” for marine animals
Ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs, and mosasaurs
All other marine animals are cool but I think are secondary imo
I feel like we need at least one cetacean
Every game focuses on them, would be nice to something else for once too
Not saying we shouldn't get them
(Basilosaurus)
Just that I prefer some of their space to be used for other groups
Indohyus
I jus want some shrimp, lol
Shrimp Tacos U want
considering one of the vivarium animals for U16 was teased to be a “semi-aquatic mammal”, we might end up getting it sooner than we realize.
yesyesyes waiter one anteosaurus please
If we get marine animals, the must have mascots are mosa, icthy, plesi/elsamo, liopleuro/krono, meg, dunkle, basilo, livyatan imo
Weirdly, I think Stellars Sea Cow would be my most wanted marine mammal
I really want dwarf hadrosaurs
Hell yeah
we have the one from PhP
If u want Dwarf Hadro put Edmontosaurus on scrap of land, surround it with water, isolate, wait 3 million years and then u have your own free dwarf hadro dude
my current “wishlist” of everything I’d like to see in the game.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YNA_vDITJMLGYv0kGDUdX4zoajYM5r2B5yfFLzeL3mQ/edit?usp=drivesdk
Paleozoic Anteosaurus magnificus Archosaurus rossicus Arthropleura armata Cotylorhynchus hancocki Diadectes sideropelicus Edaphosaurus pogonias Eryops megacephalus Estemmenosuchus mirabilis Inostrancevia alexanderi Lyncaenops ornatus Moschops capensis Ophiacodon mirus Scutosaurus karpinskii Secod...
I’m aware we probably won’t be getting all of these. but I do think we’ll absolutely get some and that’s all that matters to me.
that's
that literally isn't "Asmodeus"
that's Homalodotherium
and there's no reason to choose Asmodeus over Homalodotherium anyway, pretty sure that Homalodotherium has a nearly complete skeleton (unless I am mistaken, I can't seem to find a skeletal of it besides this)
So I suggest Homalodotherium instead
What even possessed the scientists to name a creature of that type 'Asmodeus' in the first place?
Asmodeus is a three headed demon associated with lust and desire.
TBF, we have other extinct animals named after demons.
Although with Asmodeus, I can't help but feel there'd be a lot of restraint in regards to coming up with names for skins.
Protypotherium
Paleontologist will give animals the most random unfitting mythological names for a smidge of attention
It's quite disgraceful if you ask me
It was named in 1894 so i'm not sure if there'd be much attention to be had.
Bizarre
Diprotodon (with Euryzygoma as an alt. species)
or put it on arctic
It’d be cool if you have to house baby megalania separately once they hatch to stop the parents from eating them.
Bawitius cause I don’t think my original message was in the right area
It looks like a missile
I love it
oh wow
so apparently this was discovered in the Bahariya Formation
Spinosaurus must’ve eaten it then
Spinosaurus better have eaten it
Spino lived with many giant ass fish
That's how you get a giant ass fish eater
Why must I only choose one
Where the goat palorchestes
Oh
Is that a hypothetical protobat?
Why would you suggest a species that you literally don't even know the name of or are even sure actually exists?
Because this channel should not be taken half as serious as people assume it should
I support whatever that thing is
People love the idea of animals but 99% of the time they r just a bone
I'm saying that we literally don't even know if whatever this art is depicts an actual fossil species
It is a theoretical species fwiw. The artist labelled it a hypothetical ancestral bat.
or is some hypothetical protobat
I can’t talk bc I love Utahraptor which we do have a lot of but it hasn’t fully been published on
PK needs more fragmentary species. Thankfully we're getting Saurophaganax to fill this niche.
screenshot of that source, if anyone needs it
yeah, would be a great arboreal vivarium animal if it were real and was scientifically described as such.
well
indeed
lets go find it
thats the hard part
bat bones are pretty dang fragile and we wouldnt even know where to look
even the absolute earliest bat fossils are essentially modern bats
all we need is a shovel and some gloves and we'll have as many vivarium species as we can hope
odds are even if we found a protobat, we wouldn't know it because it'd be only teeth
hell, even the fruit bat/insectivore bat split is older than the oldest fossil bats iirc
that actually is interesting i wasnt aware
but makes a lot of sense i suppose
as always fossilization conditions are gatekeeping us 😔
the only major difference is that the tail was not yet connected to the back legs by a patagium, other than that essentially modern
there's also the idea that their transition into the air would have been remarkably fast evolutionarily speaking
seeing as how pterosaurs are in a similar boat, it isn't that far fetched to assume the transitional period was short
definitely
iirc the absolute earliest bat fossils we got are like
57 mya iirc
lemme check
and the early birds that we know of aren't exactly "missing links" either
55 mya
and for birds the shift from nonvolant to volant seems to have happened multiple times
so the transition from what essentially a shrew to essentially an entirely modern bat was only approximately 9 million years at the absolute most
this is, of course, assuming mesozoic bats didnt exist
which they almost certainly didnt but that would be really funny if they did
not bad
pretty good actually
Looks really neat
if we got fully aquatic vivs then yeah
Probably could fit in a bigger viv
my choice for a sea scorpion is Hibbertopterus since it would fit with the vivariums we currently have
It looks so silly and I love it
Largest touch tank animal known to man
For the recently extinct most likely
you can send images to this channel directly you know
why not download the images