#Community Species Suggestions
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They just got it wrong? Same reason why megalania has slit pupils, why giganto is oversized, I’m sure there are other examples
So no I’m not really curious
Mistakes just happen
Fair enough, but there is a distinction between mistakes and clashing interpretations
There is
The interpretation they’ve used (as far as we can understand bear anatomy and tmk) is wrong
Its articulation error on the skeleton
Spectacled bear skeletons look remarkably similar to other Tremarctines like arctodus, they appear long legged and compressed when they aren’t like that irl
Eh
Bears can look lanky but there’s a pretty noticeable difference between spectacled bears (which arctodus should roughly be a sized up version of) and uguetos recon
Well, once again, these are people open to dialogue, so it can be productive to contact them and talk about bear proportions
I mean the documentary has plenty of mistakes already
Mmm, yeah, it looks like a large spectacled bear alright
Amurosaurus but make it fluffy trust
why would it be fluffy?
also them making this hadrosaur fluffy but not making Mutta fluffy would be infinitely tragic
Presumably because its nothern
But seeing as Ug is not fluffy I don't see why that would happen here
I don't think northern living hadrosaurs would be fluffy
that's just like
the Pachyrhinosaurus meme
yes
Damn that's a large hadrosaur
Don't think Maastrichtian Russia is talked about much here, so I'm glad to see my home's species represented here
Being that large is insulating enough
fluffy is fun though
Cause I like fluffy
Fluffy is pretty cute
Like a big warm hug
Unless it’s a musk ox
Or moose
plus
if T. rex can get away with having feathers in this game despite living in a subtropical climate and probably weighing more than Amurosaurus
The feathered rex skin doesn't have relevance to any hadrosaurs.
i don’t see why Amuro can’t have a little fluff
^
personally I think feathered Pachyrhino is enough and do not want feathered hadrosaurs at all.
and feathers are most likely the ancestral condition of Dinosaurs (due to Kuliandadromeus) so it’s not COMPLETELY impossible, if highly unlikely
I’m definitely not defending the idea of fluffy Hadrosaurs because i’m currently drawing fluffy Hadrosaurs because i think the idea is cool
It may very well have been, but there's far less evidence of even cold weather hadrosaurs having retained feathers then there is the potential for Tyrannosaurus to have feathers(and that I'm still pretty dubious on).
Feather retention is pretty plastic as far as we can tell, but some lineages seem to have dropped them and not picked them back up again.
Hadrosaurs had very thick skin, so that was probably enough for insulation for them combined with size.
true
i imagine they had Elephant hair type feathers but that’s js me
maybe some light coverage for northern Hadrosaurs at most
but the idea of woolly hadrosaurs really scratches an itch in my brain so im very biased
Wooly everything
We should create more dinosaurs with definitive feathers and place them in the north pole
hadrosaurs are probably the group with the least possibility of being feathered, we have extremely extensive soft tissue preservation from them, including from species that if not the same are extremely close relatives of the most polar of the lineage
If you want to depict them as feathered thats cool but they did not have them irl
Call one of them Santaclauseasaurus and it’s just a really hunky hadrosaur with almost exaggerated horns
would elephant hair preserve in a skin impression
genuine question im not trying to be snarky
potentially
might be a good alt for oloro
because Asian Elephants are the closest relatives of Wooly Mammoths (other than other Mammoths obviously)
More importantly dinosaur integument, as far as the evidence we have right now, doesn't work like mammalian skin
and well
that’s true
The scaly parts of feathered ornithischians seem to develop seperately from feathered and secondarily featherless integument
We should make every dinosaur wooly
Im not against them making a fluffy skin for a hadrosaur if they want to
Except the mammals
but just one, like the pachy
archosaurian smilodon
Feathered Deinosuchus
🥶
This is what I’m talking about people
paleoaccurate scaled Gigantopithecus
They should add the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs
feathers ancestral to amniotes
-# || ~~ to be very clear all I am saying is a joke as there are some people who could not see it as such ~~ ||
feathered anomalocaris
Feathered Yutyrannus? 🤩
feathered Microraptor when?
feathered Nigel
Feathered computer screen to play Feathered Prehistoric Kingdom after buying it off of Feathered Steam with a Feathered $30 gift card
Lowk a fire design put 700 of them in Cretaceous Antarctica
I thought hadrosaurs had some of the thinnest skin of non avian dinosaurs
They gonna get blasted by a big rock
Worth it
Putting feathers on a hadrosaurid for no reason would be weird and jarring
like with Pachyrhinosaurus it's an existing trope
also Amurosaurus wasn't from a very cold environment
there were crocodilians there
perhaps the crocodiles vibrated their bodies in an extremely rapid manner to keep warm in the 151 degree kelvin weather similar to the humble domesticated western honey bee...?
Also Amurosaurus isnt even the most interesting hadrosaur from that site
Olorotitan is there
Perhaps the crocodiles were in the wrong place at the wrong time
like Hatzegopteryx
perhaps part of a seasonal migration route
and they had not simply flown south for the winter yet
or perhaps their plane crashed because it was made by Boeing causing them to be preserved there...?
Perhaps they were sick of their cold blooded inferior ancestors so they lit some candles and manifested warm blood
perhaps
perhaps the candles are what caused the plane to crash, as the auto smoke detector failed, starting a ruth goldberg type machinima set up by one of the indeterminate avialans hiding in the cargo hold, eventually resulting in a major engine failure on the left wing, resutling in the plane crashing with only 3 surviviors...?
Perhaps the crocodiles were the friends we made along the way
same with the candles
and smoke detectors
and the airplanes
and the airplane crashes
and the fluffy Amurosaurus
perhaps, in the grand scheme of things, nothing is really that important
I once read about Bambiraptor in a violent dinosaur comic for children about dinosaurs, and too this day I’ve never see the medium of video game acknowledge the Bambiraptor
isn't it dubious or something?
It was contested to be a junior synonym though I don't think any further action was made
iirc
At the very least it's definitely a juvenile
and maybe a chimera
apparently there are adult specimens but they havent been described despite being found 25 years ago
there's a jawbone from a much larger individual which might be adult
the holotype was from an animal 30-40% the size of the one the larger jawbone came from
which means it was probably larger than Velociraptor as an adult
halszkaraptor.
You're Russian? Don't know why but I always assumed you were from southern Europe lol
There are quite a few southern europeans here
3 regulars that i can think of from the top of my mind
I think he is Italian , so you are not wrong lol
I hope it's one of the funky dinosaurs addition in Update 16.
why it is look like professional statistics study lol
My single slice of Bambi raptor
No one has voted for Bambiraptor
Would elephant birds qualify for a recently-extinct pack
Yeah
It could be a slam dunk combo to get both the heaviest and tallest birds to ever live
And honestly easy rig reusal
What’s the likelihood we get dodos
The best way to handle ratites is always to get multiple; love 'em
Very high I suspect
Considering a recently extinct DLC is planned and it would be a no-brainer
Beipiaosaurus would be cool
Atypical therizinosauria that would make for a interesting species. That and they can just be real cute
That's kinda shocking ngl
Especially cause it doesn't really fit the moniker of "weird dino"
It's just a "small" (potentially normal sized) raptor
I figured Halszka would be #1
Oh whoops, totally misread
Ignore me
Gregory S. Paul estimated adult Bambiraptors at a bit over 4 feet (around 1.3ish meters) and a bit over 10lbs (5kg) so it’s still a bit small for a Raptor
GSP is also not the most reliable of sources
i don’t trust his taxonomy
but from what i know he’s pretty good when it comes to anatomy and stuff
Supposedly there are adult bambiraptor specimens that are about the "normal" size
i could be wrong though
So like 1.5-2m
i see
wikipedia mentions them but that they haven’t been described
it also doesn’t mention when they were found so idk if Greg was estimating based on exclusively the juvenile holotype or also the adult specimens
just because something is ancestral doesn't mean everything will have it
i know
Ok I know you're joking but hear me out- an asteroid decoration with a little educational plaque would go hard
Add the thing in planet zoo with all the little things about the animals that are interactive but make it so that it’s a spinning asteroid that when you put on the headphones under it you can hear what the asteroid hitting the earth sounded like
It’s actually probably a juvenile
Except when he gave a bullshit length estimate for P. walkeri not actually based on the holotype
dang it, ive been stygimoloched again
Be ready to be deaf for a hot minute
I know people probably already guessed it, but I have a hunch that the semi-aquatic vivarium mammal we're getting is probably Castorocauda
how come
it's small, it's a mammal, it's semi-aquatic, and it's a unique mesozoic mammal
imo I would prefer Didelphodon
ye I don't have a problem with Castorocauda I just like Didelphodon more
I'm partial to Didelphodon too bc of WWD
Volaticotherium would also be a good Vivarium mammal, since it's basically a mesozoic version of a Colugo (plus it's from the same formation as Castorocauda)
If they went in technical term , it wouldn't count because it is not true mammal
still a mammaliform, cute little furry guy
tbf I want to see it in U16
i hope we get brasilodon
Castorocauda or Volaticotherium? (the gliding mammal i just mentioned)
this guy would be cool
hes never formed a thought look at him
he is pretty cute ngl
Beelzebufo would also be a good choice for a semi-aquatic vivarium animal (BIG AHH FROG)
roid kermit
also all four of these permian amphibs would be cool to see
I feel like devs would have to resize this guy a little or people are going to be pretty disappointed by its actual size
Beelzebufo would still be a cool animal to have for vivariums
The only (non-recently extinct) frog PK could ever have
Terrestrial Vivarium Arthropods I NEED in IK: Arthropleura, Meganeura, Pulmonoscorpius, Mongolarachne, Gigatitan, Titanomyrma
this is my list and I never miss
Mongolarachne is smaller than a finger
it's the only prehistoric spider I could think of, besides vivariums are meant for small animals anyway
Not that small, though I still want there to be some extra small placeable tanks or something that are just animated scenery, but that'd still be too small for those.
There’s a big difference between a crow and spider in size
there's also the devonian Attercopus but it's also pretty small
I wouldn’t suggest anything smaller than a rat, and even then that’s pushing it
there is Kreischeria from the Carboniferous, not a true spider but an extinct family of arachnids called Trigonotarbids
Meganeura is probably the smallest possible arthropod
Gigatitan is cool though, it's basically a triassic grasshopper crossed with a praying mantis
also shout-out to Triadobatrachus, one of the oldest known frogs from the Early Triassic of Madagascar, it even had a little tail.
Amphibian Simosuchus
also shout-out to the triassic turtle Proganochelys
Thalassotitan?
you said whale-sized and this guy is the size of an orca
African cousin of Mosasaurus
liopleurodon and ichthyotitan would rule
Livyatan
That’s actually a thing-sized whale
Shonisaurus w/ Ichthyotitan alt.
You know what, not whale sized but Pontolis would rule
Seal like critter
looks cool
Tanystropheus has some alt. potential, check out the size difference between the two species
feels like a waste to have prehistoric spiders tbh, there are far better arachnid options and the largest spiders ever are either alive today or were alive during the late Cenozoic
for most of their history spiders have stayed small
You know the Quagga is probably a shoo in if we’re getting dodos right?
quagga is confirmed is it not
Already confirmed
I mentioned Trigonotarbids as a spider alternative (Kreischeria being the largest)
Quagga + wild horse alt for RE DLC
Yeah I have no idea where I’m supposed to look for these things
This might be the only game where a T.Rex can potentially eat a Quagga
Nowhere in particular
ZT2
?
Zoo Tycoon 2
Normally I'd suggest the wiki but we don't tend to add stuff mentioned in passing by the devs until we get a more concrete source like a devlog etc
these guys
how big are they
I would love just more funky fellas
To be fair beelzebufo aint much bigger
Is size that important over just having something weird?
Mute swan cause funny
Isn't Beelze the size of modern goliath frogs
Whuh
Which are this big
Say since I’m uninformed is there a possibility for like, Deinonychus?
I know about Utahraptor somehow
Beelzebufo is about size of african bullfrog, maybe tad smaller
Deinon is def possible in the future
Deinonychus is definitely not EA
Cool cool
EA?
Once again I am hilariously ignorant
The ceiling of largest animal in game is wayyyyy higher in PK than in PZ, so that means the possibilities for how small a viv species can be are more constrained than the equivalent animals in PZ
Still significantly larger than that spider
Smaller
EA = Early Access
Someone already pointed it out lol
aka will be in game prior to the full launch
I still want beelze because frogs are cool and there aren't that many other options
There really aren't any
what about that even bigger cenozoic frog
oh dang
And a single bone
Eocene frog might have more remains apparently?
But unless something comes out it's all rumors for me
Golden frog! Gastric brooding frog!
I mean I don't think it is necessary to have frogs specifically so long as we get other amphibians/non amniotes in game
Siva better
(Too small I know)
What is too small?
Was about to say lol
Giant eocene Calyptocephalellidae
We have tiny cage things
"tiny"
Eh
They're 4m boxes
Beel viv i think it's kidna a must
nothing in game currently is THAT tiny
Or about 13x13ft
Probably Simo?
Well there's only 2 
not the birds?
I mean
Depends how you measure
In mass or proportions
Dimensionally it should be Simo afaik
What about any extinct monkey things
Compy is the smallest I think
But in weight the birds take it yeah
Like they based it off the small specimen
Darwinius
Maybe Eosimias
That's about it
Darwinius wasn't a monkey
Monkey coded
what
Its close enough
Big eyed thing
Simosuchus is going to be surprisingly big once we see it properly
5kg of chonk
Wait maybe it's archaeo?
so yeah so long as a viv suggestion is as large or larger than the current smallest viv species it is reasonable as an inclusion
Archaeo is what I would guess is the smallest
Yi smallest so far
I think you could go as small as .5m and still be fairly reasonable
Tell me with a straight face this doesn't qualify as a """monkey"""
But anything smaller than that gets hard fast
it isnt
Petty
Would giant ocean things be too big tho?
its a primate but not a monkey
Lemurs aren't monkeys either
Like I duno what scale it’s working on
to keep in a realistic zoo probably
Darwinus is even more basal than them afaik
Also fun fact, when you look up simosuchus Pk's is one of the top results
I mean
Sea world
yeah that looks more like a lemur if anything or some other strepsirrhine
Peak
true but even like
Fills the monkey niche for vivs
so does squirells and Suminia but they arent monkeys
Eh
I’d be happy with ichthyosaurus
Those are very different looks wise
Seems small enough
possums arent monkeys either
I disagree tbh
Suminia probably doesn't even have hair
Gameplay wise yeah sure
And squirrels? No
But in terms of appearance, idk what would be better than Darwinius tbh
Vivs all have the same Gameplay essentially, so thats irrelevant, it's about looks.
What about a duck? Cause uhhh
Make more sence since its a zoo irl. There woud be birds flying in habitaits for t rex and so
Yeah that's kinda my point
Well i can see It but those 2 were terrible examples lol
I wonder if dinosaurs will always outnumber the other species
Talpanas is funny
All the vivs play pretty similarly, especially those with the same habitat requirements
Darth, just because something is vaguely monkey like that doesn't mean it is one in any real sense
True ducks you have a couple giant ones that are fun, but as vivs idk
Ooo yes
Ivy you're being terribly pedantic about this
Gigantopithecus would be neat
So what if its not taxonomically a monkey
I didn't say It was, but It more or less covers the niche, and as i said there's also Eosimias
Beeg monkey
Modular ducks? For realism
you mentioned Monkeys and I thought some of these guys would be cool (mainly Gigantopithecus and Dinopithecus)
Beeg monkey
IRK king kong
Also not a duck but Vegavis is very ducky
teviornis is also a prehistoric duck
Talpanas would be a great viv species and give Hawai'i a rep which would be nice
Just a random photo of the thing
artbyjrc is my fav paleoartist
Oh yeah Talpanas is peak
Also maybe the only possible hawaiian animal?
What about Anas platyrhynchos?
Don't think the others are that much worth adding
There's that Big bird
Don't remember the name
That'd be acceptable
Also a couple of fun REs maybe
The biggest one?
The terrestrial one hunted to extinction by natives yes
Giant moa
what
Moa aren't Hawaiian lol
It's a different one bruh
Yea...
Let me look It up
But moa got hunted exticion from native
Moa also aren't the largest birds
Moa Nalo?
Moa nalos
Moa-nalo yeah
But big one
Anas platyrhynchos
Chelychelynechen quassus would be best to add yeah, could even be an exhibit animal
that's literally just a mallard what
Yeah moa nalo is neat
Yea
Game need realism
Theres ducks in ponds in zoos
:3
There's also a flightless ibis
moa nalo isn't a specific name
Tho if i need a Bird of this type my heart still belongs to Sylviornis
it is the word for the group of giant ducks
Also new caledonian which is nice
No
they won't put in volant species like that without aviaries, also mallards are too small for exhibits anyway
Thambetochen ig
True
But what if it was modular?
Yk
no i dont
As a modular piece
Like modular pieces
Which
Yea
But you cant see from more then 5 meters away
Think Lawn Flamingo
What about modular with an animation??? Woud be hard but cool
Also not a Fox but Falklands wolf is a bit fox-like
Sounds unneccesary
feels like a lot of work for something most people won't care to use
we said that
That's the Warrah
Im 100% the only one gona use it
And only use it once
Ah
then why suggest it?
Well i didn't know It had that name aswell
Then even less reason to add
Uneccesary but cool
i was talking to sire
Well
You never know
I think it woud be neet
But now i see noone woud give a shi*
Then uhhh... yea...
Based warrah
I don't think you have to censor shit here
Well then
I think it woud be epic
But noone gives a shit
Soo kinda a bummer
wtf why would you say shit uncensored?
This chat is a fucking mess right now
“Right now”
I fear the warrah would need to be vivarium, even the mainland population
Are they that small
They're like velo sized still i think
Plesss
Not vivarium
Just give them more mature than average pups
Even more shameful that they thought It was killing livestock then
Yea
Unique sauropods that would go hard in PK: Amargasaurus (sail necc boi), Nigersaurus (vacuum mouf), Saltasaurus (armored), Magyarosaurus (smol), Shunosaurus (IRL Ankylodocus), and Dicraeosaurus (sail bacc boi who would pair well with Kentrosaurus)
Hope so
isn't there talk that the tail clubs of Shunosaurus may not have been weapons at all
The mainland warrah population was apparently “coyote/German shepherd sized”
Even if not, I doubt the devs wouldn't interpret it as such tbh
if Thylacine is gonna be exhibit idk why Warrah can't
Good enough then right
Sounds large enough to me
Give them a smaller skin as a reference to the Falklands population
Doesn't matter if the babies are a bit too big
https://preview.redd.it/thylacinid-named-after-nigel-marven-v0-09oi6ggjiand1.jpg?width=825&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=644c16cf280b6366e4b838df8925a73a603a980d this thing got named after Nigel Marvin
I don't think skins change size do they
Lambeosaurus and mammoth
ah
Marven
Lamb isn't that justified since Magna could have been an alt but Mammmoth and here Warrah would be perfect examples on how and when to do it
And both populations are recently extinct
pretty kewl
Tautersheep
ye iirc the mainland one survived till like right before or right after european contact right?
the dates are a bit fuzzy on the mainland pop
Honestly since we almost surely aren't getting Stellers and Haasts in RE just add Warrah to RE
More SA fauna is always a plus
Big sheep would be cool
The mainland can be found with S. populator
Even better then
there's no way we are getting "extinct" domestic animal breeds
2 digsites one with the populator one and another one in the archipelago
I mean the original concepts for RE had Aurochs and Tarpans soooooo
Yeah domestic breeds at best could be classified as subspecies but most times not even that
I mean I think it makes for something interesting
If you have the ability to bring random things back from extinction you could do something interesting with the more recently extinct
Tarpan is fair but Aurochs are more like Jungle fowl
Not a domestic breed
Also having a sheep would be neat
Those aren’t domestic breeds
Yeah Aurochs doesn't fit that idea
I mean they def can be
Why
no I mean like
Several north american dog breeds no longer exist
For a Sheep/goat just go Myotragus
not in the same way as an actual extinct species
Like half of native american ones
Yeah
Poor wool dogs
I’d do both
Why
I mean fair ig, but i'd rather get more unique hoodstock
Hoodstock
Lmao
Yeah I’m highly against domestic animals
I feel like I shouldn't have to explain why the extinction of domestic animal breeds doesn't matter as much as an extinct species or even subspecies
Why? Extinct animals extinct animal?
Its still a population of genetically diverse animals gone
They’re a breed
I feel like the only alive species being added should be pre-domestication ancestors
breeds aren't genetically diverse, they are like, inherently not so
And do you go to the zoo to see a sheep?
Mind and want aren't really the same thing
I want to see the wonders of nature, not artificial selection
Even if it "doesn't matter" as much as a whole species going extinct, its still the loss of a group of animals
Which impacts the genetic diversity of the entire species
No one disagrees
seeing devs devote time to any extinct domestic breed over adding an actual extinct species would upset me tbh
Also this, 0 prehistoric or natural on the animal
I think it would make for a interesting challenge exhibit wise
You’d need to maintain an animal not built to be self sufficient
If PK had 500 species tomorrow, sure then go do some Norwegian sheep
But we’re missing so much right now
Well a later addition I think would be neat
This aswell, as much as i crave for my beloved Round island burrowing boa i don't think It should be added right now lol
That's fair
I think having a nice mix of really ancient animals and recently extinct would just be neat visually
This is a wishlist channel after all, not a realisticlist one
450 different species of rhinoceros and ceratopsians
woe is thee
I’ve heard somewhere about dire wolves how likely is that?
Menoceras......
Very i'd say
Prime DLC material
Stegosaurs we need, besides Stegosaurus and Miragaia (this is my list and I never miss): Kentrosaurus (duh), Tuojiangosaurus (another duh), Gigantspinosaurus (big shoulder spikes are cool), Huayangosaurus (primitive boi), Thyreosaurus (as my oddball pick), and Wuerhosaurus (last of the stegosaurs)
I'd be shocked if they didn't show up at some point
The fact is that this game will never have enough species to please everyone or display a complete picture of the history of life on earth and we shouldn't devote species slots to animals that would be as undeserving as extinct domestic animal breeds when any actual extinct species would do so much more to add diversity to the game's roster. Plus, there aren't any extinct domestic animal breeds who would be better additions than a related extinct species would
Kentrosaurus is my top number 2 Stegosaur
Eh, Wuerho maybe as a stego alt and i don't see anything worth in Tuo tbh, good list otherwise
like Sylviornis is infinitely better than some extinct chicken breed or something
all white direwolf skin
We already talking about DLC?
Silviornis mentioned
I mean we have a pretty decent idea of whats coming in the next few updates up to early access release
what did you think the RE talk was
I must be really out of the loop cause I don’t get it
not 100% but we have a pretty decent idea
That's where i see It most likely to be added
honestly good
continue not to know
I’m shockingly ignorant
if your really really curious, ask in #science-chat
Lying in the paleontology community?! Who’d ever think it
Impossible
Technically not even in the "paleontology community"
Horner cooked hard once or twice then It was just downcliff from there
“Guys I was on Jurassic park”
Ankylosaurs we need (besides Ankylosaurus and Edmontonia and maybe Sauropelta but hey it's my list and I never miss): Euoplocephalus (anky's canadian cousin), Pinacosaurus (small and thicc), Polacanthus/Gastonia (they're interchangable), Borealopelta (red tank), Minmi (small tank), Stegouros (axe tail), and Spicomellus (jurassic porcupine)
skimming the previous conversations, I feel the need to share this again
because clearly some of you dont have anything better to do
I mean obviously the Pachy
I mean It was just discussion about what we think makes sense or not, i don't think (or atleast i'd like to think) no one felt attacked, offended or otherwise bad about It.
respectfully, not your place to judge
Fair
Gjuys
Obdurodon
For a better world
or
steropodon
tho it has not too much material sadly
but he funny
Obdurodon would be a fun mini
But it's kinda just a platypus sadly
massive yes
Obdurodon has teeth?
How massive
That's what its named for
Over a meter
you know what else is massive?
oh yeah
So 2-3x a modern platypus
ivy we're banishing you
What?
I’m too mature for that
What are you talking about
It’s called LYING
Ivy wasn't referring to anything specific
Obdurodon and Sterpodon not-so-twins🥹
Seriously how big was it?
I just said
Wait isn’t it a tooth taxon?
No
Oh, so tiny
There's like multiple species
Dicksoni had a skull ig
Disappointing
It’s just a slightly bigger and toothed platypus
But I guess it’s the only platypus suitable for PK?
"slightly"
Slightly
Right so this would be like 2 feet
Oh huh
i was
I guess modern platy can get up to 2
i was making a low taper fade joke
Sterpodon for the win guys
So this would be like 3 ft
most extinct small mammals WISH they had this much fossil material
Especially Tyrannosaurus rex
huh
all we have of tyrannosaurus is a single tooth :(
???
So it looks like the smallest Obdurodon sp is about the same size as the largest modern platypus individuals
~~ It’s a joke dw ~~
we have nearly complete Tyrannosaurus specimens and T. rex isn't an extinct small mammal
I was making a joke that tyrannosaurus wished it had that much fossil evidence when it obviously has more
Funny
The largest is about a metre long
this is my Ankylosaur wishlist and I never miss
Yeah that's what I was saying to begin with
^
I think my most wanted monotreme in game would be Murrayglossus as an exhibit animal
largest monotreme ever And a good representative for pleistocene Australia and non-therian mammals as a whole
I wish it was Late Pleistocene
if it was then it would be called a "giant, ice age echidna" in the next PhP season 💀
metridiochoerus
I just think they're neat
as for other suids megalochoerus and kubanochoerus are neat
I feel any suid has a slim chance tbh
Unfortunately
Did one with the stereotypical “early Pleistocene” African fauna?
Kubanochoerus is cool
Actual unicorn
Honestly, Metridochoerus gets mentioned in stuff because Blue Fang used it as roster filler in 2007
It is kinda just an warthog
I think y'all are sleeping on Celebochoerus
Ice age pig ...
NOOOOOOO
Celebochoerus segment where neither Celebochoerus nor Sulawesi is namedropped
simultaneously used it as a roster filler but had zero hadrosaurs and zero sauropods
Notochoerus on top
I forgot about zt2
it's genuinely cool
Could fill that niche with Halzksaraptor though, or Stiginetta
I desire mega penguin https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/05115522/SEI_174736283.jpg
Palaeeudyptes klekowskii
[id genuinely kill for this thing]
Either that or anthropornis would be a dope semi-aquatic
Human sized penguins
Assorted weird Paleozoic aquatics that would be cool: Anomalocaris obviously, plus Opabinia and the Tully monster would be cool too.
Touch tank but with this
Pretty sure all three of them would bite so I don't know about that one chief
They let children touch sea urchins for some reason
Opabinia is basically impossible
like it is so incredibly small I doubt that the game could even render it
it's like goldfish sized
I mean dung beetle is basically there
but thats the only way I could see animals o that size getting in
is a placeable animated scenery object
so even less than vivariums
Well there goes the Attack on Titan worm Hallucigenia... (also a very small animal from the Burgess shale)
yeah there's no way lol
It's a shame because I've always had a soft spot for the Burgess shale fauna, such cool little weirdos
if they ever made fully aquatic vivariums I wonder if they would have Anomalocaris with a trilobite species in the sams vivarium, since iirc Anomalocaris wasn't actually a trilobite eater
If you want a trilobite I would suggest Isotelus from the Ordovician, the biggest trilobite of them all
Now THAT is a big aah trilobite
I. rex for PK pls
Eryops
I just suggested that one
(along with Diplocaulus, Platyhtstrix, and Prionosuchus)
I want these so baaaad
It'd help fill out indoor areas.
so muuuuuch
if we don't get them officially I'll just build them myself
Imagine a "Recent discoveries" DLC pack themed to recently discovered dinos like Lokiceratops, Duonychus, Ajnabia, Meraxes, Maip, and the pterosaur Lusognathus
If we want monkey coded go suminia
The game never claims to be fully accurate
...So? It's a single skin animal, i heavely doubt they would make It fuzzy
Not really effective because eventually they won’t be recent
Giga the only other giant carcha I accept in the game
I can get behind giga if 1. It's a DLC animal and 2. It has a meraxes alt
People keep requesting the whole lineage across the paleo community, but they all look very similar
I can get behind an alt
Either meraxes or mapu
Mapu would be like
Literally the same animal
Atleast Meraxes is smaller than either Giga or Carch and you could give It the cool Big claw
Even if it's probably present in most mage carchs
Really the only other alt i would consider besides meraxes would be Tyranno
Fair lol
I don't really care too much, they could have giga with no alt and not much would change for me
Carch should’ve been a giga alt
^
Giga has a bigger chin than Carch and that’s about it
Meraxes is probably the most distinct and it just has a notch over the hips and a slightly larger toe claw
Guess which one of these is Mapusaurus and which one is Carcharodontosaurus
Giga on the right cause of the more elaborate chin
O shit you right
nah.
We don't have Carcha's lower jaw
A fragment of the dentary
There is no reason to not restore it with the same chin as its closest relatives
Oh yeah
Big ass big name carcharodontosaur
Perfect alt material
Carcha is for all intents and purposes Giga's Tarbo
It's a charismatic name and the neotype is very similar to Giga
Acro, Giga+Carch, and Conca would be perfect coverage of carcharodontosaurids both across time and across the world
not going to argue with you
They both can be distinct. Im more in the Giga>Mapu idea than throwing Giga under Carch
well, no
it wouldnt
because carch is already in the game and distinctly itself.
that's where "should've" comes into play
tell Mau then 
no point in trying to argue what should have been, i wish you guys would spend your energy and opinions on where it could ideally be in the future
whats the point of discussing something thats far gone by like you know better when the opportunity has come and gone
My brother in Christ I said six words
just sharing a thought i had.
What is the point of trying to school somebody about "would have liked it better if", what the hell
I think this convo is getting ever so slightly heated
This is literally an speculation containment thread, the spend energy argument is rich
C'mon
Let's not be rude about meaningless stuff
not from my point of view tbh. i dont really see im being rude when im just saying arguing about something thats far gone by is weirdly meaningless.
as it stands today, if giga ever gets added, i hope for the mapu alt.

although now i had a stray thought that they couldve potentially added alts to already existing species but they've never done that to my knowledge so that might be possible.
It’s a shame they don’t
I’m utterly gutted as we’ll never get Lambeosaurus magnicristatus
Lambeo is a quite huge name... I dont see why it wouldnt be a strong contender for the DLC era
Patience is key 
would love to see it myself one day
Nah I don’t think it would be dlc
It SHOULD have been an alt
Literal perfect candidate for it
Lambeosaurus magnicristatus is the intermediate between Lambeosaurus lambei and Corythosaurus casuarius
hmm. the one we have ingame rn is Lambei right
Lambeosaurus lambei/magnicristatus with a Corythosaurus alt could've been cool
magni is just a larger one isnt it?
Nah I would have left corytho out
Alts are cool but too many and it takes away skins from the base animal
Only certain animals that actually have a lot of species should have an alt for every skin
Like Allo/Para/Camara/Pachy
I do like Cory
Pobably a bit of childhood bias cause it was prominently featured in a dino book of mine LOL
it was also in JPOG
Inostrancevia
Wonder if we could one of the African clades as an alt (Lycaenops, Gorgonops, etc.)
For a long time, it was the #1 Lambeosaur. And arguably the hadrosaur.
That just got added to the wikipedia page, didnt it?
Seeing it is a summary of this paper, yeah
they seem to have had pretty different feeding styles so I'd expect that they would look somewhat different as well
"last" of the stegosaurs
ONE of the last stegosaurs
Its not THE
At least, not that I'm aware of
What even is the most youngest Stegosaur in the fossil record? Closer to US or whatever.
Not sure, unless you count the highly dubious Dravidosaurus from India
Stegosaur footprints from Maastrichtian India
Afaik, Dacentrurus and Miragaia are also some of those early cretaceous stegosaurs, or maybe its just Dacentrurus
I don't recall
there are more Dravidosaurus remains as well, they're still being worked on but they seem to indicate a stegosaur identity
those are Jurassic
Yeah
Ah, then why the "Perhaps Early Cretaceous" on Dacentrurus?
maybe one specimen of Dacentrus from the very earliest Cretaceous
but the exact end point of the Jurassic is... fuzzy
Yi would be cool
caihong would be an awesome edition to U16 someday
It's far too late to suggest animals for update 16 lol
Also a bit too microraptory
Frankly i don't even see It as DLC worthy as much of a neat critter it is
sorry about that
ik its too late for U16 what i was trying to say in future aviary sets thats why
Boringsaur
More basic than megalosaurus
Not even relevant to paleontology
Go outside and get better suggestions
Has It even featured in any documentary?
I can't recall a single time
Fine. How about adding Tyrannosaurus one of these days? Kind of obscure theropod, but a cool one
Now we’re cooking
are you talking about allosaurus now?
Yes
....cant tell if actually serious or not.

The documentary part should tell you
there are documentaries with allosaurus.
several actually.
Stegosaurus world
...

Specially when the convo was about suggesting fucking Allosaurus to the game lmao
hard to filter the sarcasm with the people who unironically say dumb shit.
Audios that go hard 🔥 🔥
Just realized that surviving earth is gonna feature suminia
Pk has to invest stocks in it early
We need Cartorhynchus it would be a great vivarium creature to have!!!
Dear god…..
I low-key forgot his name but I fw it and think he’s cute
I should rewatch PrP season 3
Tho this is the baby
Still cute
Propaleopus iirc
Bizarre kangaroo
Wuerhosaurus is kill
no
Wuerhosaurus is mid, I don't make the rules
I thought you were referencing something, I wasn't intentionally disagreeing with that opinion
Oh lmao
In terms of stegosaurs that I'd be excited for, the top 5 are Dacentrurus/Miragaia, Kentrosaurus, Huayangosaurus, Thyreosaurus, and Gigantspinosaurus
My favorite Stegosaur
I wonder how likely a Titan boa would be
Giant relative of modern rat kangaroos, it’s really neat
I dont know why but I always paired Thylacoleo with Thylacosmilus together in my mind
Cuz they both have thylaco in the name and no other popular animals do except thylacine
Thyreosaurus? Why?
becuase it has flat plates
that's really neat
not everything needs to be a complete skeleton
It kinda does
Its very much glupshittosaurus
We don’t know wtf that thing actually looked like is the issue
When we have a dozen actually well-preserved Stegosaurs not in the game
Also excluding Tuojiangosaurus 😭
Kentrosaurus is my most wanted, followed closely by Dacentrurus/Miragaia
Btw it had osteoderms, not flat plates from what i understand
these are two possible interpretations
We don’t know what it had
^
It’s a bizzaro
Was about to say
The stegosaur equivalent of spicomellus I bet
it at the very least was a dacentrurine with flat osteoderms on its back
which is really cool
from the same place and time
Yes, i am showing them both because you decided to only show what you want to have
weirdly hostile way to phrase it
?
I picked the more interesting reconstruction, since that's usually what the game uses as its basis
it's not like I was being decietful
Spicomellus is very cool
Thyreosaurus I feel like we have too little imo, but wouldn't complain if we do get it
no, Propleopus
Indeed, with all the animals that have pro and paleo and so on, it gets confusing and jumbled together in my head
Same
Mira is great but I'd like a smaller stegosaur to compliment how huge Stego is
How u rate Prehistoric Planet Ice Age??
Thyreosaurus over Tuojiangosaurus? That should get your dino card revoked.
I wonder if we could get any plesiosauridae
there's a thread for this
#976761052916244511
The only ones we could get before aquatics would maybe be Kem Kem's but they're undescrived so
What species of bison should be added? Latifrons, antiquus and priscus or less?
Just latifrons and priscus can suffice.
god latifrons is so cool
genuinely like an ungulate ceratopsid
I need this one in the game 🥲
Llama
