Community Species Suggestions

[shell sonnet]

I could imagine Mononykus eating small lizards and the like

[tough marsh]

May I ask what about the galetrio

[shell sonnet]

Which ones?

[tough marsh]

Galecheris
Galepus
Galeops
Suminia relatives from the same time and area as Moschops

[shell sonnet]

Have you voted as well?
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1F-sJITBp8YM7yTzwFtULWYcKgjCoPDy8oCd0tpWvmfU/edit#responses

[tough marsh]

Nah I will

[late swallow]

Get it stuck on them

[tough marsh]

Sorry I saw semi aquatic mammal and was looking for Instransivia

[shell sonnet]

When I put together the pre-selected options together, I decided on nine for each group (besides the dino) and tried to avoid animals too closely related to each other. So that's why I didn't include those three (plus forgetting about them) when I already had Suminia.

Plus there's a fill-in your own response option

[tough marsh]

Fair

[tough marsh]

You did good

[deep lake]

I got some animal sugestions but i dont want to text them again so im just gona sent link to the sugesstion if that counts https://discord.com/channels/173172667623407616/1434553724482879579

[steep tulip]

Scaphognathus would be pretty cool for vivariums

[silver steeple]

That art looks really weird

Dude looks more like a penguin than a pterosaur lol

[steep tulip]

That because its random pic I found on pinterest of what I assume is a penguin pterosaur
Was too lazy to find a good artwork for it

[silver steeple]

I found tons by just looking up the name

[tame thorn]

Pteros.com has a good representation as well

[autumn turret]

Eohippus would be cool

Little horse dude

[deep lake]

Lovely art

[buoyant zephyr]

Reading throught this was exhausting

Anyway, postosuchus or prestosuchus?

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[lean hound]

If it to be one or the other

I'd probably go with posto

it's more iconic imo

[late swallow]

Posto. Chinle

[shell sonnet]

Presto is from Brazil and by law, the only animals we're allowed to include from there are pterosaurs

[ancient ibex]

Posto and Sauro

[shell sonnet]

Yeah Sauro would be great for the Ischigualasto pack

Am I wrong to think the two are too different from each other to be alts?

[feral cedar]

by law?

[shell sonnet]

Of course

[late swallow]

tangentially, the highest population of Japanese people outside of Japan is in Brazil

[ancient ibex]

One is bipedal and the other a quadruped to begin with

[shell sonnet]

That's what I thought

[ancient ibex]

(Then again, quad movement is a Prestosuchian thing I believe)

[shell sonnet]

I just knew we didn't have any of Sauro's limbs

[ancient ibex]

Hindlimb elements

[shell sonnet]

Oh, so we do have part of the back leg

That's more than I remember

[ancient ibex]

Prestosuchus has pretty much all but the hand I believe

In any case, stuff is similar to Postosuchus, which, even if predominantly bipedal, could still bear some weight on its hands, specially as juveniles

Prestosuchids seem to have musculature-related adaptions in their hindlimbs that point towards quad movement, but still some bipedality wouldnt be too weird

[steep tulip]

They are too different

[steep crane]

Between Dryptosaurus and Nanotyrannus, who is better?

Nano is known from more complete remains.

But Drypto is Appalachia rep.

[flint sable]

hmmm

like better for the game?

I could see alts tbh, although I kinda doubt either would be particularly good additons to the roster

at least at this stage, or even after EA ends

Nanotyrannus could 100% be a great DLC animal though, just like Giga

[slim flare]

I mean, Nanotyrannus easily. Way more well known, both in remains and the popular mind, plus its in Hell Creek.

[flint sable]

if they did do alts I would imagine Nanotyrannus would get the two skins and Drypto the one

or a three way split between the two nanos and drypto

if that was the case I think Dryptosaurus should have a greenish skin and it's skin should be named Laelaps

[quick ore]

no doubt as dlc Nano vs Drypto is a wash

Nano clears it on all accounts

[flint sable]

basically only thing drypto has going for it is the old paleoart value and appalachian rep

[quick ore]

yup

[flint sable]

and ig slightly paleontologically signifigant since iirc it was the first theropod from North America

so thats something ig

actually wait a minute

was it the first tyrannosauroid discovered too

[quick ore]

and even then I don't think Appalachia representation is terribly necessary, like paleontologically it is important but as far as a game encompassing species from around the world it is just another half of NA. And other animals from outside of the Mesozoic can just as easily represent it.

[flint sable]

yup

for example, appalachia got a great paleozoic fossil record

western north america got a great mesozoic one

tradeoffs

[quick ore]

wait, Smilodon was in Florida right?

[flint sable]

and then there are some regions of the world that got absolutely nothing

[flint sable]

fatalis was yes

and probably gracilis

i forgor

[quick ore]

so we even have some representation there already

[flint sable]

technically yes

also atrox was there too

[quick ore]

the issue with Appalachia afaik is that the mountain range is so old that it mostly only has really old fossils right

like paleozoic and stuff

[flint sable]

ok yeah the bulk of gracilis remains are from florida

[quick ore]

aside from some dinosaur trackways in CT I think?

[flint sable]

during the early pleistocene/late pliocene tho

[hollow furnace]

We have Acro rep as well

Technically

[flint sable]

yup

tracks from maryland

[hollow furnace]

And teeth

[quick ore]

if we get fully aquatic vivs then there will be plenty to pull from the eastern half of NA from the Paleozoic

[hollow furnace]

Dimetrodon borealis alt

[flint sable]

indeed

even without that theres still some great picks

mostly vivs but still

[quick ore]

mhm

[fiery crow]

Heterosteus

[late swallow]

the mountains are older than the curren Eon

[quick ore]

ye

[shell sonnet]

The mountains have a weird history; they actually reduced to down in size alot by the end of the Mesozoic but uplifted during the cenozoic

[hollow furnace]

Also believe there’s Arthropleura and Meganeura fossils from Mazon creek and the like, so if/when we get them those might count

[shell sonnet]

Meganeura's only been found in Europe

It's French

[late swallow]

the poor thing

[shell sonnet]

You're thinking of Oligotypus

Worst yet, you forget the real star of the Mazon Creek

[flint sable]

😔

although tbh europe and america at that time were like

a hop skip and a jump away

so its not impossible that meganeura lived on both, and at the very least very meganeuralike animals lived on both sides

[hollow furnace]

I could never forget him

[flint sable]

yup

also shoutout illonois for having the best state fossil

-enigmatic
-only found there
-a genuinely cool pick
-actually well known/complete

[shell sonnet]

You failed to mention Tully. Luckily it's willing to forgive for your transgression.

[flint sable]

all states should strive for this

[late swallow]

You wanna spell mh new home right

[flint sable]

sometimes a few of these arent possible because uhhh

fossilization can be a bitch sometimes

but oh well

[flint sable]

illinois mb

[late swallow]

Dork

[quick ore]

wouldn't Tully be way too small?

[shell sonnet]

No

[shell sonnet]

They can reach over a foot in length

If that's too small, then so are things like Beelzebufo

[late swallow]

Is it 1ft with or without the trunk

[flint sable]

I would say close to the limit but not quite there

comparable in length to Yi and Archaeopteryx if that helps

if not ever so slightly shorter

not in wingspan in body length

[shell sonnet]

I don't know

[coarse inlet]

Drypto, because the claws are cooler

[slim flare]

How so?

[coarse inlet]

From what I’ve seen the arms and claws are proportionally bigger on Dryptosaurus

[slim flare]

Wannabe Megaraptorids…

[kind oriole]

I wonder how much is the divide between players here who prefer filling out formations and ones who want animals from other regions to get a global divide

[flint sable]

me tbh I dont care as much about either of these

I prefer clade diversity over anything

specifically mammals

but if I had to pick one probably the second option

[fiery crow]

I wanna see Barinasuchus personally

[left spear]

Truly a cultured individual

Sebecids reing supreme is the superior land crocs

[fiery crow]

don’t talk shit about my goat Boverisuchus

[left spear]

Was talking about families in general

Boveri is pretty cool

[quick ore]

I think doing both of these is good with a focus on filling out major formations

like for when you fill out formations I mean

[left spear]

Ehhh

Like i can get prirozing one of two equally interesting animals due to the first sharing formation with already existing animals

But if like you priorize Campto over Concavenator just because of that then it's kind of stupid

[feral cedar]

I think it kind of depends on what formation it is lol

For example I'd sell my left kidney for the PK dev team to restore Cloverly to its former glory

[fresh ember]

Calling it now; Expect a massive influx of Pleistocene suggestions once PhP: Ice Age is out.

[proper raven]

Elasmotherium

[steep tulip]

I need mekosuchus to make an appearance

For this reason too

[quick ore]

it's in the game already

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-joke-ranier-wolfcastle-mc-bain-the-simpsons-stand-up-comedy-gif-4372917

[ancient ibex]

Plenty of the shown stuff is either in, likely for U19, likely for the recent extinctions pack, or in the post-release DLC ideas anyway

[hollow flower]

The more cenozoics the better

[wary nacelle]

we should put sacabambapsis in the aquatic vivariums perchance

[polar tinsel]

Hopefully this leads to more pleistocene animals in game 👌

[wary nacelle]

also perchance put Bezelbufo in there

perchance

[ancient ibex]

Terror birds with emphasis on the bird, I dig it

[wary nacelle]

ooh I like terror birds

yeah

I think

Llallawavis will always have my heart as a little guy

little guy terror bird

[limber needle]

drypto is cooler tho as its not a tyrannosaurid and could have feathers

[ancient ibex]

Nanotyrannus is not a tyrannosaurid either? Hell it is likely a Dryptosaurid

Tyrannosaurids could have feathers as well

[limber needle]

we need more non diapsids

[limber needle]

wait what i thought it was a tyrannosaurid

[past mist]

not anymore

i know alts are a little overly suggested sometimes but i actually think one or both species of Nanotyrannus plus Dryptosaurus might be a perfect opportunity ngl

Appalachian rep while also expanding an existing formation

about the same size and very similar proportions

[shell sonnet]

Down the line it would be fine, but I've got so many other animals I want to see first

[past mist]

i agree

i was just saying if they were to be added, i think that’s a perfect opportunity

[shell sonnet]

Heck even for Hell Creek, I can think 2-3 other animals I want before Nano

[shell sonnet]

Yes, we need more rhinos.

[past mist]

again i agree, i’m just saying if one were to be added i think having the other as an alt is a great opportunity

expand an existing formation’s roster while giving representation to a new location

plus Dryptosaurus is of paleontological significance being one of the first dinosaurs known from North America and one of the first to be depicted as a little more birdlike and active

and one of few known from the East Coast and one of even less known from after Appalachia split from Laramidia

[shell sonnet]

I'm indifferent to whether or not Drypto comes as an alt (partly because the actual relationship is still in flux) but I wouldn't complain

[past mist]

good point

also sorry if i came off as confrontational/defensive

[shell sonnet]

You're fine

I didn't sense any anger coming out from you

[ancient ibex]

Drypto has old school cred

[shell sonnet]

You could have posted the contemporary picture

Or even Waterhouse's take

[ancient ibex]

It isn't kicking an anatosaur in the nuts in any of those

[shell sonnet]

It's not doing that in the first one either, I don't see any dino dick

[past mist]

phew

idk i felt like i seemed confrontational

[ancient ibex]

Anyway, second Mammuthus species would go hard

[past mist]

yes

[shell sonnet]

Yeah, great addition for La Brea

Good way to add in the Pacific Mastodon as an alt for the American Mastodon

[ancient ibex]

It is potentially alt-like, but IIRC our mammoth has its hair baked in, it wouldn't be quite the same as Elasmo and Sino

Still, closest elephant in shape to the one already in, mastodons and the like are long bodied

[steep tulip]

Megacerops, stephanorhinus, teleoceras, metamynodon, aphelops

The more the better

[shell sonnet]

Menoceras as well

[polar tinsel]

Chuck Notiomastodon in there somewhere

[left spear]

We must convert more people to the truth

[buoyant zenith]

Me just secretly chucking in all of Mammutidae.

[desert flame]

I think I've said this before, but if more Pleistocene animals are added, I hope they're closer to the Prehistoric Planet design.
Thylacoleo
Macrauchenia
Megalania
Procoptodon

[hollow flower]

The Megalania in particular has a very nice design

Distinct from a komodo yet still very realistic

[late swallow]

Why are the kangaroos so buff

[shell sonnet]

Lots of boxing

[desert flame]

Procoptodon was a large kangaroo, so it's not surprising that it had well-developed muscles.

[steep tulip]

Its quite minor but the slit pupils ruin the vibe

[quick ore]

except for the eyes and lack of a crest

[hollow flower]

I quite like the eyes

[steep tulip]

I have a crack theory of why is that, but maybe there's a scientific reason for it
Personally kinda doubt its a solid one tho
Like all varanids have round pupils, don't see why megalania specifically would be different

[plush nacelle]

I think one of the reasons (I hope not)

[coarse inlet]

crest?

[plush nacelle]

Is them wanting to make megalania more scary in otherwise mammal focused doc

After all it seems like it is going to hunt propleopus (?) baby

[steep tulip]

It has a little crest inbetween the eyes

[shell sonnet]

It's a big lizard that eats meat, how is that not scary enough

[steep tulip]

This is my theory as well

They have interfered with this sorta stuff before too

They gave it a more reptilian eyes to make it more intimidating or something

[steep tulip]

Tho I think its likely it was covered by soft tissue irl

So not that big of a deal it isn't present

[desert flame]

ummm
I didn't realize the show's Megalania had more original elements than I expected.

[quick ore]

If the slit pupils were done on purpose and not an error I hope whoever added them clarifies why exactly they are there

[desert flame]

To put it bluntly, the program staff may have been trying to make it look cool.

[quick ore]

looks silly to me

no one is acting like komodo dragons don't look cool

[steep tulip]

I remember when they stopped them from calling styginetta a dinosaur or something like that

Feeling like this deadass
So I wouldn't leave it completely out the question even if its pretty dumb

Too much yapping for a (while weird) pretty small thing, it won't affect my enjoyment of the docu most likely lol

[cosmic cosmos]

not even Lanthonotus has slit pupils, as a monitor fanboy this is disappointing

[old tiger]

elephant

https://tenor.com/view/tue-tue-gif-18499872

[old tiger]

Okay I get it but its just pupils bro, they look kind of cool.

[steep tulip]

His name is loxodonta africana

[old tiger]

her

the tusks are smaller

[cosmic cosmos]

no

[old tiger]

why

[cosmic cosmos]

because monitors are my favourite animals, so when they aren't fully reflective of what they are I'm a little saddened. It also puts it in this kind of uncanny valley for me

[old tiger]

okay but we still got a cool megalania

[cosmic cosmos]

I agree for sure, just sad they did that with the pupil for whatever reason

[old tiger]

is there terrain paint suggestins anywhere btw

suggestions*

[late swallow]

We have the full amount of paints the system can handle currently

[old tiger]

ohh

[silver steeple]

Where was this said? Genuine question

[proper raven]

^

[feral cedar]

how did it slip through then

[mint creek]

Because nobody is perfect, including teams of people.

[late swallow]

Don't remember exactly, but it's to do with the URP that PK uses, same reason we're stuck with 4 terrain layers

[polar tinsel]

Speaking of PhP designs I love how they did Gigantophitecus, PK could go similar route

If they add it that is

Which I would love

[feral cedar]

PHP is though 😔

Their only slip ups AFAIK are things that they didn’t know, like how the arrangement of Carnotaurus feature scales was inaccurate cause a paper came out mid-production

[burnt gate]

• Albertosaurus
• bison latifrons
• titanis
  -guanglong
  -thylacine
  -dodo birds
  -allosaurus

[quick ore]

good list but *Guanlong

[late swallow]

unnecessary

[quick ore]

sorry

I didn't mean it in any bad way

[buoyant zenith]

Ok can we not go at each other because of that kind of stuff? She just corrected and it was likely a mistake. Big deal.

Anyways, anyone know of any European raptors?

[fresh ember]

Nothing worth mentioning, sadly. Even Pyroraptor is only known from a few scraps.

[buoyant zenith]

Ok, just found one I never heard of: Vectiraptor.

And Dromeosauroides. That almost sounds extra.

[kind oriole]

I suppose clade diversity is another dividing line. But as you noticed it has the potential of satisfying more people if it's in unexplored formations

[lost magnet]

I'm hoping for some reptiles like Megalania and Quinkana

[lean hound]

-# Varanus

Whoops

[lost magnet]

They even have Ugranuuk

Ans we all know that was actually an Edmontosaurus

And they already have extinct species of the living genus Pantherain there, so why nit an extinct Varanus species

[slim flare]

Why does everyone forget Ursus?

[old tiger]

I mean we already have an ursus, would be cool if we got something like arctodus simus

[lost magnet]

True

[feral cedar]

I PK were to feature short-faced bears like Arctodus and Arctotherium, which one would be the alt genus?

[steep tulip]

Its a hard one tbh
Arctodus has 2 species, arctotherium has like 4/5
I would say the one that has 2 species that are the most different between one another should be the main

Not just physical, but also niche/environment wise

[amber field]

I think blurred image have short faced bear

[steep tulip]

Mhm
Arctodus simus is the one most people think about when they say short faced bear

Not 100% sure they can work as alts tbh

Imo they can but still

[amber field]

I think they can choose one from North America and another from south

[feral cedar]

Arctotherium angustidens is gigantic and was much more omnivorous than A. wingei, I believe

[shell sonnet]

I'm not sure if it matters all that much about which one is the main species. I guess Arctodus simus would be the natural one.

[steep tulip]

Damn 😭

This one works then

[shell sonnet]

Honestly, I think Arctotherium might need its own slot

[steep tulip]

Mammals benefit a lot from the alt system

[shell sonnet]

They do, but there are a lot of species for this genera.

[feral cedar]

Arctotherium is growing on me a lot, I never really paid attention to it in preference for Arctodus

[quick ore]

makes me happy whenever I remember that short faced bears are still alive

[feral cedar]

Ah, the spectacled bear. A beautiful creature of my country, Peru

[steep tulip]

Not sure how many chances there are to get both of them
Having them be alt of eachother at least ensures both get added

[shell sonnet]

wingei does have one minor trait (I wouldn't call it an advantage)... you can actually add an animal from SA can't come from Argentina (I don't think it matters but other people do care about location diversity)

[shell sonnet]

I think you can easily make them alts, but I'm not convinced that three skins is enough

[steep tulip]

It is a bit limiting
Hopefully devs will have a change of heart and we get 4

[shell sonnet]

They only do that for the special ones

[feral cedar]

My own “doubt” about Arctotherium wingei is that it kind of steps on the cave bear’s toes a little bit as they’re both largely herbivorous bears

But… ehh

[steep tulip]

Unfortunately yeah

Not even mammoth or smilodon got 4

[shell sonnet]

Personally, I don't think keeping Arcotherium and Arctodus separate is any different than say what's going to have to happen with the Columbian Mammoth

[quick ore]

It will be so hype seeing Columbian Mammoths in game

Primeval nostalgia

[shell sonnet]

Or Brachi or Apato/Bronto

[steep tulip]

Yeah...
I hope they will ad some with like dlcs, tendanguru without giraffatitan

https://tenor.com/view/hell-nah-gif-16460664719453589622

[shell sonnet]

"without" would be a disaster

[feral cedar]

My personal take is that Mammuthus should’ve been a two-way alt split a la Triceratops

Four skins; two for primigenius, two for columbi

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-balance-perfect-gif-25200656

[shell sonnet]

The current Mammuthus skins are meant to represent different populations/sub-species right

[feral cedar]

different populations yeah probably

[quick ore]

10k BC movie Mammuthus alt that makes them over twice as large and gives them the ability to gallop /j

[shell sonnet]

I could see an argument for M. exilis (a pygmy mammoth) as well

Maybe two skins for M. columbi and one for M. exilis

[feral cedar]

The pigmy mammoth could be a cool third skin for the Columbian mammoth ngl, especially since the former probably evolved from the latter

[quick ore]

I wouldn't get my hopes up for any dwarf elephants besides the sicilian ones

[feral cedar]

Yeah I consider Palaeoloxodon is the superior dwarf

P. antiquus and P. falconeri

[steep tulip]

Kinda doubtful they can work as alts tbh

[quick ore]

maybe not alts

but it would make sense for them to release alongside each other

very fitting too

a genus containing both the largest and smallest proboscideans of their time

[steep tulip]

True
Tho ig I could renounce to bigger
palaeoloxodon species since there's so many proboscideans I wanna see

Tho

They might require less work to put out together, depends how we get them ig

[feral cedar]

I mean… it’s not THAT bad

falconeri evolved from insular populations of the straight-tusked elephant, so they probably looked quite similar

[steep tulip]

The calf of antiquus is probably bigger than adult falconeri
Also falconeri is built like a cow

[shell sonnet]

Interesting that we're assuming that the type species, Palaeoloxodon naumanni, isn't being considered (yeah I know it wasn't on the old post-EA list)

[steep tulip]

Heres namadicus but antiquus has very similar proportions

[feral cedar]

I personally think that the straight-tusked elephant by itself would be a neat addition, it’s a part of more Eurasian ecosystems

[steep tulip]

Probably the lesser known one
Tbf namadicus ain't that much more interesting, but it is from a different environment

[shell sonnet]

Different part of the world as well

[feral cedar]

Also I don’t think it should be a requirement to feature the type species

I mean Microraptor uses M. gui, but M. zhaoianus is the type

[shell sonnet]

It shouldn't be, but it's how they've done for everything besides Panthera and Ursus (type species are extant) and Microraptor (because gui is a bit bigger)

[steep tulip]

Either namadicus or naumanni work
Or both as well

I feel like devs gonna go with higher estimates for namadicus

Because cool

Like if we go by the assumption falconeri is out of the question as an alt
Antiquus + namadicus + naumanni is a good selection

[feral cedar]

This might be Prehistoric Planet recency bias but what about Stegodon?

[steep tulip]

Stegodon is great imo

[feral cedar]

The Sicilian dwarf elephant had a giant swan, but the Indonesian species of Stegodon lived with a giant stork

[steep tulip]

Like its actually decently distantly related from modern day elephants

And getting the dwarf species as an alt of the big one isn't as much of a stretch as for palaeoloxodon

[quick ore]

don't think we can get either of those birds without some sort of aviary update

I would rather not have a prehistoric zoo that pinions volant birds

[feral cedar]

Interesting that Stegodon florensis seems to have the dwarf be a subspecies

[feral cedar]

The giant swan is thought to be flightless

[steep tulip]

Probably not completely tbh

Like it wasn't that heavy it couldn't fly at all

[steep tulip]

Stegodon also has more ancient bigger species as well
None were the size of the bigger palaeoloxodon, but still decently big

[digital pendant]

Angustidens was very carnivorous and wingei was basically a lowland spectacled bear

But I agree that it would be dope to see as alts

[sharp dock]

U think they'll fix the megalania eye

[hollow flower]

no

[feral cedar]

indeed

Also, wingei was way smaller

Drastically different alts, could be very cool

[flint sable]

yes iirc

iirc the brown skin is european populations, the blackish one is central asia and the small one is siberian / wrangel island

at least thats my interpretation

[silver steeple]

Black is western European and brown is more "general" and blonde is Siberian

This is denoted mostly by the size differences, not anything to do with a population's hair color ftr

[flint sable]

ye

iirc it was pretty variable, although biased seeing as we only really have siberian mummies

[silver steeple]

Genetically they could have the same hair color as any human

They were almost certainly predominantly brown/black

Seeing a ginger mammoth would be a hell of a sight tho

[hollow flower]

How neat

[wary nacelle]

diplomoceras for aquatic vivarium definitely totally

[golden canopy]

A thyla in pk would be so cool especially with a baby

[hollow flower]

If they ever add alts to existing species Id like to see Shantungosaurus for Edmontosaurus

Certainly a better one than Ugrunaaluk

[brave pier]

the tentacled paper clip will have its day

[tender snow]

Leptoceratops or udanoceratops would be cool : >

[coarse inlet]

I'm torn on whether I'd want Lepto to be a full exhibit species or a vivarium species

[quick ore]

I feel like full exhibit would be best

[coarse inlet]

I'm torn because it's big enough for that but it seems to have lived in communal burrows which seems unlikely for a full exhibit species

[quick ore]

hrmmm, fair point, unless some sort of placeable burrow could be made to go along with it

could also work with Oryctodromeus

[buoyant zenith]

Guys, what about Desmostylians?

[flint sable]

maybe

main thing with them is that they were almost entirely, if not fully aquatic

not very hippolike as usually portrayed

also we dont know what exactly they are either

they might be afrotherians and they might be ungulates

[quick ore]

yeah it is equally possible for them to be either of those

[buoyant zenith]

So interesting tho.

[median relic]

weren't they more or less as aquatic as pinnipeds

[coarse inlet]

I think possibly more

Based on the rib age and limbs

[lost magnet]

That's quite the contrast

[lost magnet]

I love this

[lost magnet]

We need aquarium species

[lost magnet]

Which ones to come along: Zuchengtyrannus, Sinoceratops, Zuchengtitan or Zuchengceratops
(Multiple answers is valid)

[hollow flower]

Zuchengs a bit too similar to Tarbo to warrant an inclusion, Id say Sinoceratops

[lost magnet]

Fair

Zuchengtyrannus is probably very similar and nowhere near complete, so hard to accurately distinguish from Tarbosaurus
But Sinoceratops, Zuchengtitan and Zuchengceratops would be good additiond imo

[steep tulip]

@lost magnet

Lets continue the convo here

Both amargasaurus and brachytrachelopan are more requested than dicraeo from what I've seen

Maybe it could work as an alt

As for why we don't have more diplodocids, I assume devs are satisfied enough with the sauropod roster

Plateo + apato (and bronto) + 3 camara species + brachio + argentino

Amarga or diplo would have been cool but rn some groups do need more rep

[lost magnet]

Fair, but they are extremely distinct

[lost magnet]

I think the sauropod roster could use some more diversity

There's Plateosaurus, Argentinosaurus and a bunch of Morrison stuff

I mean Shunosaurus would've been a cool addition at the very least

Or Saltasaurus

[steep tulip]

Brachytrachelopan is dicraeo with a shorter neck, they aren't that far apart

[lost magnet]

Well with how short that neck is

[steep tulip]

It usually made shorter than it probably was tbh
Dicraeosaurus also doesn't have a very long neck

[lost magnet]

True, but still undeniably longer

[steep tulip]

I agree but all future additions are very distinct it seems so I'm happy with this

[lost magnet]

What about Mamenchisaurs tho

They're very distinct entries

[steep tulip]

Mamenchi would be cool as well

Sauropods still have quite a lot to give imo, other groups have yet to get any rep and devs seem to be focusing on those for the final updates

[lost magnet]

Fair

I suppose every group coukd use some more diversity

Like some Jurassic Asian stuff is definitely missing

[steep tulip]

We getting zilch on that front I think

[lost magnet]

:(

I mean come on

There's Coelophysis from the Triassic, some Morisson and Louriñha stuff from the Jurassic and everything else is Cretaceous stuff

And then the Cenozoic mammals

[steep tulip]

After some vivariums maybe and stego and allo, jurassic seems to be done
For ea at least

Tbf morrison has like

The most animal representation of any other formation

Stego allo torvo dryo brachio apato bronto camara

[lost magnet]

Yeah, it's jampacked with morrison additions

Ngl, I'd like to see some Early (other than Dilo) and Mid Jurassic entries

And some stuff from the Shaximiao formation

[steep tulip]

There's yi technically

[lost magnet]

Not bad tho

But vivarium species aren't really the same thing as large enclosure entries

I'd love to see Yangchuanosaurus, Sinraptor or Guanlong

Or Mamenchisaurus, Xinjiangtitan or Shunosaurus

And Huayangosaurus would be cool too

[hollow flower]

Id prefer Gigantspinosaurus

[lost magnet]

Fair

I can see why

But I just like Huayangosaurus better

[hollow flower]

Fair enough

[lost magnet]

I say Shaximiao and Wahweap are a need

[lost magnet]

Still I'd love Gigantspinosaurus tho

[mystic frost]

Se filtro una especie nueva ustedes que creen que es ese dinosaurio?

know I filter a new species, what do you think that dinosaur is?

[plush nacelle]

I think everybody knows lol

Small dinosaur, tiny arms, desert setting

[quick ore]

Oh! a baby Tarbosaurus :)

[left spear]

Maip macrothorax

For the arms mostly

[hollow furnace]

raptorex

[feral cedar]

Not to mention a name in that blurry (but not blurry enough) image of the roadmap perfectly fits the criteria

[steep tulip]

Mau did say we got all of them wrong tho
Mau wouldn't lie

Ever

[plush nacelle]

If only we could read these 2 remaining animals

Blur 2 strong

[shell sonnet]

What arms?

[steep tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/cut-it-out-dude-gif-7309611

[mystic frost]

Notice that it has a feathered tail and long, thin legs.

[hollow furnace]

simosuchus

[feral cedar]

lol

[feral cedar]

I mean, Maip had muscular arms because every megaraptorid with preserved arms has them too

[shell sonnet]

We don't have Maip's arms is the problem. Given it's larger than other Megaraptors by quite a bit and given how it is with a lot of other large theropods, they could be proportionally smaller compared to Megaraptor.

[mystic frost]

For me it is a mononychus or an alvarezsaurus

[outer crater]

ye

[feral cedar]

Good point

The problem is megaraptorids are very scrappy, so much so that we barely have enough for a complete skeleton using all described genera

[inner wedge]

yep! diplocaulus confirmed

[feral cedar]

I think Australovenator probably preserves what is ostensibly the most important parts of megaraptorids and thus we can ascertain what the arms were like

[late swallow]

legs go all the way up

[lost magnet]

I wish lol

[modern totem]

wait....

[coarse inlet]

what we have of megaraptorids indicates that their proportional changes with size are very different than other theropods

larger ones seem to have more robust arms and claws, not less

Examinations of the forelimbs of megaraptorans by Rolando, Novas, and Porfiri et al., that were published in January 2023 show that the megaraptorans' forelimb bones are remarkably well-developed; powered by strong pectoral and front limb muscle that were functionally significant and important to the paleobiology of this group of theropods. Their data also suggests these muscle attachments became increasingly pronounced through megaraptoran evolutionary history, being substantially better developed in derived taxa such as Australovenator and especially Megaraptor itself than in earlier genera such as Fukuiraptor

Joaquinraptor also has very robust forelimbs

it'd be really weird if Maip reversed the trend of large derived megaraptorans having more powerful arms

[desert flame]

Probabby,funky dinosaur.
Looks like a Mononykus.

[buoyant zenith]

I just love the fact we have megaraptors.

[mint creek]

I want Maip so bad

[old tiger]

velociraptor

for sure

I want it in the game so badly bro

[slim flare]

Are you joking?

[old tiger]

yes, you got me

[steep tulip]

No he deadass

Velociraptor is an awesome animal

[left spear]

Justice for v. osmolskae

My favorite Maxilla

[hollow furnace]

oops all velociraptorine dlc

Just 10 additional velociraptorines that all look the same as Velo

[coarse inlet]

peak

[coarse inlet]

Adasaurus and Shri are pretty distinct looking

[slim flare]

Then we won’t use those

[late swallow]

Acheroraptor

[hollow furnace]

Archaeoraptor

[left spear]

Linheraptor

[modern totem]

Atrociraptor

[shell sonnet]

That last one isn't a Velociraptorinae

[coarse inlet]

Acheroraptor might not be either

[shell sonnet]

Acheroraptor is two incomplete pieces of the upper and lower skull that no one would care about if it wasn't found in Hell Creek

So many better animals to include from there and so many better Eudromaeosaurian to include

[left spear]

Yeah like Dakota

[coarse inlet]

Dakota is an Edmontosaurus those are already in the game

[old tiger]

austroraptor

[steep tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-gif-17552966235424643644

[sage gull]

Nanotyrannus

[autumn plover]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-holland-spiderman-spiderman-thanos-snap-swtsoob-gif-22157816

Alioramus watching it’s chances for inclusion evaporate now that Nanotyrannus is back:

[steep tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-adam-warlock-dont-be-rash-will-poulter-marvel-gif-7269497775167346680

[abstract compass]

people genuinely believe nanotyrannus has a better chance than other tyrannosaurs?

[autumn plover]

Judging by the 50-60 requests for it, probably more, since it was confirmed to be it’s own thing, apparently so

[abstract compass]

there's like 5 tyrannosaurs that would make way more sense to add before that rat

people are just hyping it up because its the most recent thing

[feral cedar]

Nanotyrannus is not redundant with Alioramus imo

[late swallow]

its just a boring ass pick until we get more tyrannosaur diversity

[abstract compass]

Drypto Appalachio, Alioramus, Yuty, Guanlong.

didnt even include alberto

[last thistle]

How it has big hands

[last thistle]

I can get behind this

[abstract compass]

so theres like 6 better choices than nano

[late swallow]

Procerato

[late swallow]

それだけ。

[abstract compass]

Sure. i just wrote those that came to mind

[last thistle]

Nah I still like nano more, I wanna flesh out the hell creek and Morrison atleast (not talking full just like 1-2 more per)

[abstract compass]

and all of those are better choices than Nano

[late swallow]

womp

[abstract compass]

likes nano because he just wants to fill out the formation

[late swallow]

there's so many other cool Tyrannosauroids

[last thistle]

Nah I like it’s hands

[late swallow]

that's boring as hell man

[last thistle]

How is big hand tyrannosaur boring

[abstract compass]

they're bigger than usual

but small regardless.

[last thistle]

Nah Ik they not giant

[abstract compass]

can you rather spend that energy to suggest a Megaraptor addition?

[last thistle]

But it’s still cool imo

[last thistle]

Megaraptor itself

I would LOVE THAT

not saying nano is my top choice I just like it better than alioramus

I’d be cool with dryptosaurus or apilachiosaurus for that Appalachia rep

Appalachiosaurus is one of my favorite dinosaurs bc it’s like the south’s dinosaur

[abstract compass]

i was thinking if Drypto gets added it couldve had Nano as a alt.

[quick ore]

Drypto is way less popular than Nano

[last thistle]

I’m down with that

[last thistle]

This

[abstract compass]

okay.

[late swallow]

• all 3 Alioramins
• an Albertosaurine
• Daspleto
• Several Proceratosaurids
  [Proceratosaurus, Guanlong, Dilong]
• Yutyrannus
• Coelurus
• Maip
• Australovenator
• Fukuivenator

[late swallow]

ok and

[abstract compass]

Drypto as a alt of Nanotyrannus instead then

[last thistle]

See if we get dryptosaurus I’d be ok with just using it as nano as I do with young Rex

[quick ore]

yeah that is my point

more likely for Drypto to be the alt

[abstract compass]

nope.

other way around.

[quick ore]

how

literally how

[late swallow]

Triad - N. lancensis, N. lethaeus, D. aquilunguis

[last thistle]

This would be cool

[abstract compass]

you know as good as me that adding 3 alts like that wont probably happen...

[late swallow]

i'm still gonna cope about the 3 Alioramins damnit

[hollow furnace]

why the hell not lol

[abstract compass]

because Dryptosaurus is larger than Nanotyrannus.

[quick ore]

Nanotyrannus has way more name recognition and fame than Dryptosaurus

ok?

then it wont be an alt

[late swallow]

ok and?

[last thistle]

Annectens is bigger than regalis

[quick ore]

my point is Nano has better chances and more reason to get added

[hollow furnace]

by about 30 centimetres

[abstract compass]

if its standalone sure?

[late swallow]

you've failed to make an actual point

[quick ore]

people keep asking me about different things

[abstract compass]

Ivy is in the headspace where because everyone talks about it right now this instant its more popular and thus deserves priority

[quick ore]

No?

[abstract compass]

[abstract compass]

nano isnt much nano then is it

[quick ore]

Listen idk whst y'all think but Dryptosaurus doesn't have name recognition, or at least nearly as much as Nano

[late swallow]

i fail to see how that's even relevant

[quick ore]

I don't think it has even appeared in a single paleodoc has it?

[quick ore]

how can recognition not matter when discussing dlc

[late swallow]

completely irrelevant

[abstract compass]

that is a very poor measure of statistics.

if a game had to consider that every game would be screwed

[late swallow]

because recognition isn't what a good decision is based on

[quick ore]

So you think Dryptosaurus is a more popular dinosaur than Nanotyrannus?

[autumn plover]

No need to tell me, tell the people playing Nanotyrannus every half hour

[silver steeple]

Regardless of what makes a good pick, Nano is actually definitely more popular than Drypto

[quick ore]

THAT is my point yeah

like

it is clearly more popular

[autumn plover]

Dryptosaurus

[abstract compass]

luckily popularity isnt the only measurement for addition.

[quick ore]

no one said it was

[silver steeple]

Its definitely a factor tho

[abstract compass]

only reason people start claiming nano is popular now is because of recent events.

[late swallow]

over 100 years of seniority

[silver steeple]

So what

[quick ore]

but you know what popularity means? it means it is more likely to SELL

and dlc's are made to make Money

[silver steeple]

No?

[abstract compass]

Lol a animal that has never gotten a media portrayal finally gets one? you dont think that would sell?

[late swallow]

yes

[silver steeple]

Its been popular since it was lumped lmao

[last thistle]

You are saying this like popularity has no factor in the animals in the game as if galimimus, T. rex, triceratops, edmontosaurus, spinosaurus, dilophosaurus ect. Aren’t in the game

[quick ore]

not as much as Nano

[hollow furnace]

I mean no, nanotyrannus has been popular for 30 years and is now going to be even more popular

[last thistle]

I could go on

[silver steeple]

^

[abstract compass]

agree to disagree. carry on

[quick ore]

saying Dryptosaurus' seniority means it is more popular is ridiculous

[last thistle]

All I’m saying is popularity is def a factor

[steep tulip]

nano discourse is what made it popular

[silver steeple]

Exactly

[steep tulip]

in paleo circles it def gets talked about a lot

[quick ore]

Nano has some 40 years of hotly debated discourse, multiple paleodoc appearances, AND it lived in Hell Creek

all Dryptosaurus has is seniority and Leaping Laelaps, whose title doesn't even have its actual name

[late swallow]

paleodoc appearances are still completely irrelevant. but keep going off

[quick ore]

Paleodocumentaries are like, some of the most influential pieces of dinosaur media period

[silver steeple]

When discussing how popular an animal is? Absolutely fucking not lmfao

[quick ore]

right up there with movies

[last thistle]

Again you are acting like popularity plays no factor in what animals are in the game

[silver steeple]

Most people wouldn't know like half the Morrison if it weren't for WWD

[late swallow]

lets add segisaurus then.

it was in a movie!

[quick ore]

are you being intentionally dense?

[hollow furnace]

No it wasn't

it was in a map that was released as supplementary media to a movie

[late swallow]

im done with this

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/elephant-2003-elephant-movie-alex-frost-columbine-elephant-gif-9337744167051067377

[late swallow]

are you always rude on purpose?

[quick ore]

I'm genuinely asking, you aren't arguing in any way that makes sense

Like it is so obvious that popularity is a factor in deciding which dinosaurs get added to the game and how often said dinosaurs appear in media contributes directly to said popularity

[last thistle]

If popularity wasn’t a factor we would have half of what we have in the game

[quick ore]

I don't understand how you could argue that it doesn't matter

[buoyant zephyr]

I think people here are being disingenious on purpose

Duh of course documentaries count as something

[quick ore]

There are so many species that would be nothing other than glup shitto species without documentaries

[buoyant zephyr]

They're along movies and games the most exposure something gets

[last thistle]

Me when I say ppl are rude to me but I was rude too

[late swallow]

Fuck off

[buoyant zephyr]

Wow

[bold sinew]

I dont want Nanot in PK because I dont like it

[buoyant zephyr]

Dont make me call the cops 😡

[bold sinew]

It killed my family

[steep tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-warfield-benedict-cumberbatch-parades-end-gif-15239205

[last thistle]

You have an excuse

[hollow furnace]

nanotyrannus ate my grandma, ok?

[late swallow]

And the number of appearances isn't something that should be used to decide what gets added to a game.

[bold sinew]

Alberto is cool

Get Albertosaurus in

[abstract compass]

nano is cooler

[buoyant zephyr]

You're being ignorant on purpose then?

[bold sinew]

But I hate Nanot

[abstract compass]

he is your best friend

[hollow furnace]

Nanoalbertus

[late swallow]

Could you not?

[quick ore]

again this argument makes no sense to me

[marsh mesa]

That’s not what you said last night

[shell sonnet]

That's just Gorgosaurus

[quick ore]

idk how it can even BE an argument that popularity is a factor

[hollow furnace]

No that's Nanogorgus

[bold sinew]

You may be Nano but you arent Nanot

[marsh mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-black-guy-gif-25962626

[shell sonnet]

That's a junior synonym

[buoyant zephyr]

Anyway, nano would be cool

[late swallow]

I am not being ignorant. I am not being dense.

[buoyant zephyr]

Eventually

[bold sinew]

Cool it's already in game

[buoyant zephyr]

I want something else first, like gorgo or guanlong

[late swallow]

The fact that you just prance in and act like you know my mental processes pisses me the fuck off

[buoyant zephyr]

Talking about animals in a game pisses you off that much?

[steep tulip]

this thread are the trenches of this server

[buoyant zephyr]

I see why

[steep tulip]

does this discussion need to continue still

[late swallow]

No, people like you who act high and mighty do.

[silver steeple]

Perhaps it is time for many of us to step away from the lightbox

[hollow furnace]

I think my order of tyrannosauroids goes Yutyrannus > Alberto+Gorgo > Megaraptoran of some sort (Australovenator/Megaraptor/Maip) > Alioramus+Qianzhousaurus > Guanlong > Nano+Drypto

[buoyant zephyr]

Mine is similar

[steep tulip]

based

[bold sinew]

Same

[late swallow]

People put way too much stake into 'popularity' being the driving factor behind animal choices.

[buoyant zephyr]

I don't care

Move on

[steep tulip]

probably would put alberto over yuty, but tbh its pretty tied

[shell sonnet]

I agree, though I would switch Guanlong and Alioramus around. And put Albert in front.

[hollow flower]

I agree

[late swallow]

Then why the fuck did you butt in?

[buoyant zephyr]

You made it personal idk

[quick ore]

I feel like megaraptorans are mysterious enough as to what their taxonomy is that they don't need to be grouped together with tyrannosauroids, and tbh their vibes are different even if they are in fact tyrannosauroids

[marsh mesa]

Holy shit it’s just dead animals

[abstract compass]

think i would agree with this lineup of additions

[hollow furnace]

Yeah that's very fair

[marsh mesa]

Anyway all are cool choices

[abstract compass]

gucci

[marsh mesa]

Peace out

[bold sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-force-unleashed-gif-23620078

[hollow furnace]

Just included them because they're generally found there atm

[late swallow]

No, you did, jackass

[quick ore]

ye understood

[buoyant zephyr]

You gonna continue?

[quick ore]

Artemis you are the only one this whole time who has cursed in this convo

[hollow furnace]

They're basically equal for me, I just think Yuty edges slightly ahead for me by virtue of not being a tyrannosaurid proper and by being one of the original 50

[late swallow]

No, I'm done. Don't expect to hear from me again. You can start clapping now.

[hollow furnace]

As an actual animal I like Albertosaurus better lol

[bold sinew]

Same

[late swallow]

Who gives a fuck about cursing

[bold sinew]

And Alioramus

[abstract compass]

the crests are really fucking cool so im hoping for alberto/gorgo

[shell sonnet]

The feathering would be another reason (still want Albert/Gorgo more)

[hollow furnace]

wonder if the new Aberto species will be published by the time we'd get it

[abstract compass]

there's a new one? first time ive heard of that

[buoyant zephyr]

I was like you once, got mad at something a bit inconsequential on this server, I learned to just ignore it and go on and do my own thing. You could just block us you know?

[silver steeple]

They're not really a mystery

[buoyant zephyr]

Just relax

[hollow furnace]

Also my hope would be for feature scaled + feathered Alberto and a smooth Gorgo, in terms of skins

[hollow furnace]

Yeah, they mention it in the supplemental of the Nanotyrannus paper

[silver steeple]

They're either just inside or just outside tyrannosaurs

[hollow furnace]

There's also a shitload of new albertosaurines apparently

[abstract compass]

fascinating

[hollow furnace]

(blue gorgo, obviously)

[abstract compass]

[bold sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[marsh mesa]

We need a red-headed rex skin to match it then

[silver steeple]

It was also mentioned that there's supposedly a bunch of new Gorgo sp coming soon™

[marsh mesa]

As well as a Tarbosaurus with spots on the snout

[hollow furnace]

canon colours:

[marsh mesa]

Speckles, even

[alpine thicket]

Alberto/Gorgo is like

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[alpine thicket]

perfect addition for so many reasons.

[marsh mesa]

Mhm

[hollow furnace]

although the new "Gorgo" doesn't actually clade with gorgo in the paper lol

[abstract compass]

i wont lie the first one does ride the style well

[hollow furnace]

but that's #science-chat

[silver steeple]

In Napoli's preprint from last year

[buoyant zephyr]

What is the canon color of daspleto? Red?

[marsh mesa]

Grey

[hollow furnace]

no one cares about daspleto so it doesn't get canon colours

[shell sonnet]

That second gives Wallace Shawn's character from Toy Story vibes

[silver steeple]

True

[alpine thicket]

Great alt potential, fills out a formation, identifiably a classic tyrannosaurid but divergent from rex and Tarbo.
Great pick.

Also nostalgic animal for a lot of people, Alberto shows up in stuff quite a bit.

[marsh mesa]

Daspletosaurus?
More like
Whogivesashittus

[hollow furnace]

Devs I will sacrifice a kidney to get gnarly feature-scaled Albertosaurus

[buoyant zephyr]

Nah

Thats megalo

Like iguanodon

[hollow furnace]

I don't care the actual feature scale is like 2 milimetres let me dream

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-lier-trending-gif-6708574292361340617

[abstract compass]

funny you say that because if i could pick a tyrannosaur to add that nobody really gives attention i'd say Lythronax there's just something aesthetically pleasing with the proportions and the skull.

[buoyant zephyr]

First dinosaur, feature scales

It's the rules

[alpine thicket]

Lythronax is neat. I don't want it but it's really neat.

[marsh mesa]

That would be Dynamoterror

[hollow furnace]

Remember when PK was all about Lythronax?

[silver steeple]

I still think back to the old Lythro model

[alpine thicket]

Also has the cool type of edgy name.

[marsh mesa]

For the record I actually do love Daspletosaurus

[abstract compass]

o yeah i forgot about that

[marsh mesa]

Blud’s been rexing before rex was a thing

[abstract compass]

devs could do the funny

add lythro

[silver steeple]

Revive him

It's what the game is about

[abstract compass]

i still think its one of the more good looking skulls just in a gracile way

[marsh mesa]

Bro headass 11 years old
Jesus Christ

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[alpine thicket]

I'm super hard pressed to think of a tyrannosaurid I legitimately don't like, even Nanuq is cool in concept even if it kind of sucks otherwise.
It's just what like actually suits the game roster is a big factor for my picks too.
But also Alberto/Gorgo is the best pick.

[hollow furnace]

where's the picture of him yelling in front of the park in a storm

[buoyant zephyr]

There was also a deinosuchus model right?

[hollow furnace]

yep

[steep tulip]

hype moments and aura rex

[silver steeple]

Might try the Wiki's dev history page?

[bold sinew]

https://youtube.com/shorts/u4hXfXsQHkM?si=kaAIdazGTomnvhQ7

[marsh mesa]

Deinosuchus
(Deinosuchus)

[abstract compass]

my beloved

[silver steeple]

There were a lot of old models

[quick ore]

Always loved their screams, made me think they were sneezing

[hollow furnace]

there he is:

[marsh mesa]

I FEEL IT DEEP WITHIN

ITS JUST BENEATH THE SKIN

[silver steeple]

🔥

[bold sinew]

PK will always be a shadow of its former self till we get lythronax

[marsh mesa]

I MUST CONFESS THAT I

I FEEL LIKE A MONSTER

[buoyant zephyr]

The front teeth look like buck teeth, I cant unsee it 💀

The dinonerd

[quick ore]

Animal I Have Become >>> Monster

SOMEBODY HELP ME THROUGH THIS NIGHTMARE

I CAN'T CONTROL MYSELF

[bold sinew]

Anyways

I want one guy

My heart's desire

[steep tulip]

I need this guy to have like
Rocks that you can place around and it basks on them like a weird seal lizard

[silver steeple]

Would be useful for lots of things

This guy

Notho

Tany

Some ancient pinnipeds

Spinosaurids perhaps

Crocs

[steep tulip]

Mhm
Notho seems to have been mostly fully aquatic, but there's definitely more

Ambulocetus as well

[steep tulip]

Saying this because not sure if devs would prefer it for normal enclosures or for lagoons

[silver steeple]

I have the feeling that the devs would probably do it as a little more semi-aquatic

But could go either way

[coarse inlet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_(fossil)

[steep tulip]

Same thing ngl

[steep tulip]

Oh it was meant for the other guy
Since technically austroraptor isn't an eudromeosaur 🤓 👆

[coarse inlet]

oh

[steep tulip]

Tbh not sure how well last paper find gonna age

Like I could see it flip flopping between the 2 sides for a while

[flint sable]

yeah austroraptor might be a """"""""""bird""""""""""

apparently

idk how well thats gonna hold up

[alpine thicket]

They bounce around a lot.

[feral cedar]

I'm convinced the mysterious blurry desert animal is Mononykus

Or at least it's an alvarezsaur

[quick ore]

is there any indication it is in a vivarium?

[feral cedar]

No, but it's a new animal for the vivarium update. I doubt the developers would add a new critter unrelated to this update. Unless it's a surprise, I guess

[hollow furnace]

all animals in update 16 are confirmed to be vivarium animals

[feral cedar]

Precisely

[limber needle]

Or go wildly speculatiive with all of except for the ones that have obvious different features like Shri rapax. I'm talking owl facial discs, whiskers, waddles, you name it

[limber needle]

Another one for Nigel to talk about it being from england

[slim flare]

Do predators tend to have waddles?

[limber needle]

Because drypto has even bigger hands and was the first tyrannosaur discovered ever

[limber needle]

Old school cred tho

[limber needle]

Drypto features in one of the most famous pieces of paleoart ever

[limber needle]

Waddles are good for heat regulation

[junior furnace]

And yet it doesn't even carry the same name

[steep tulip]

Waddles is something you only see in birds tbh

And for a reason

Tho I don't find close relatives also having them

[left spear]

99% of people don't even realize that's drypto

Recently bias aside Nano is still 5 times as popular

And like ffs we have a complete skeleton it's not gonna be the alt

[feral cedar]

Dryptosaurus could be an alt for Nanotyrannus ngl. It being bigger is a none issue because Saurophaganax and Charonosaurus prove that an alt genus can be larger than the parent species

Nanotyrannus lancensis/lethaeus and Dryptosaurus is a decent alt split

[quick ore]

this piece doesn't even have Dryptosaurus in its name

[fresh ember]

Laelaps was a name used for Dryptosaurus.

The name turned out to be preoccupied.

[left spear]

For the better

It doesn't suit the animal on the slightest

[quick ore]

I know but still

the piece doesn't actually make Dryptosaurus a well known name, and the dinosaur depicted barely resembles a modern Dryptosaurus reconstruction

[feral cedar]

Are we sure that people aren’t hyping up Dryptosaurus because of a bias against Nanotyrannus

[left spear]

I was literally thinking about that

Drypto wasn't even a top 5 tyrannosauroids before

Now people pretend it's better than Nano which we literally have an almost perfectly conserved specimen of

[fresh ember]

I had a fondness for Dryptosaurus before Nano came back, funny enough.

I just didn't bother suggesting it because it felt like a lost cause.

[left spear]

I mean

I think it's perfectly reasonable and viable as a Nano alt

But yeah not on it's own

[flint sable]

true

glad enough it stuck around for the painting though

leaping laelaps sounds a lot better than leaping dryptosaurus

also really random but if drypto ever gets added the skin's name should be Laelaps and have it be greenish

paleoart refference

[inner wedge]

rubidgea atrox

*mic drop

[desert flame]

The fan-made PK Guanlong design is amazing. I hope that one day he'll be brought back with a polished official design.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pkgame/comments/1orw5jb/guanlong_wucaii_conceptskins_art_by_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[coarse inlet]

“Eagle-clawed storm wind” doesn’t fit?!

[coarse inlet]

Maybe for you. I’ve always been a Dryptosaurus fan

Laelaps aquilinguis is THE best dinosaur name and I curse the entomologist who took it from us every day

[steep tulip]

Entomologists on their way to name a 2 cm fly "giant titan winged beast"

I always thought drypto wasn't a bad pick tbh, nano just made its addition more likely
As long as they keep being decently close

[left spear]

Uh... No?

Doesn't have anything to do with either storms or the mythological beast

The source is a dog ffs

[left spear]

Biologists on their way to waste all cool and fitting genus names on an absolutely unfitting or irrelevant animal

Fuck you jormungandr

[coarse inlet]

A hunter that never gives up its prey

[coarse inlet]

You don’t think a sea serpent from Walhalla is fitting? I feel like you just don’t appreciate symbolism

[left spear]

Literally could be attributed to any theropod

Dynamoterror levels of lazy

[left spear]

Not fitting for a fucking Dakotan animal

[coarse inlet]

Bruh

That’s a ridiculous take

It’s literally from Walhalla!

[left spear]

And no i dont care that that area of the US has some Scandinavian ancestry

[steep tulip]

As long as it sounds good I don't mind what it actually means
Like naming your dinosaur "thanos" ain't cool

[left spear]

There are like 4 pop culture genera with somewhat good names

All the rest can burn in hell

[short rover]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-18370552922777914358

[shell sonnet]

Some ideas for a Palocene Asia pack:

Prodinoceras martyr (a basal relative of Uintatherium)
Bemalambda nanhsiungensis (about the size of a large dog, it was one of the most primitive of the Pantodonts)

[left spear]

Naming an animal for a mythology beast of an unrelated culture just because of a city name is weird and lazy

Its like if there was an Azdarchid named Amarudactylus or something like that after Cordova, Alaska

[coarse inlet]

That’s ridiculous lmao

Lycaeon is the genus of African painted wolves and named after a character in Greek mythology

And it rules

Keresdrakon and Thanatosdrakon aren’t from Greece either

[shell sonnet]

And Quezta is found in Texas, where I don't believe Nahuatl speakers reached

I don't really seem a reason to get upset

Even at the entomologist for grabbing all the good names

At least they're dealing with still living creatures

[coarse inlet]

Yeah but Laelaps was so perfect

[left spear]

How so

Like anything that fits It besides It being a predator

[coarse inlet]

It’s a badass name that has a good sound and a fun mythological reference holy shit it does not need to be perfectly descriptive if it’s poetic

[left spear]

There are small Nahualt communities in Texas but i doubt that was a cause for the naming so fair tho atleast it's marginally close to the original region

[coarse inlet]

Sebecus is from South America and it’s also a perfect name

[left spear]

I mean a genus should somewhat describe the animal, otherwise that's how we get shit like Thanatotheristes

[coarse inlet]

The problem with Thanatotheristes is not that it’s not descriptive enough it’s that it’s trying too hard

Though at least it conjugates “Thanatos” correctly unlike a certain other taxon

Basilosaurus is a great name and also totally incorrect if you’re looking for literal description

Or Phytosaurs

Or Thalassodromeus

[left spear]

Basilo was named in 1830

What do you expect

[coarse inlet]

And Laelaps was named in the 1860s what’s your point

You’re also the one getting mad about a perfectly descriptive name because it’s from a different continent than the etymology

[left spear]

Also Sebecus atleast is a crocodile

[left spear]

Well old names can get a pass, but there's nothing wrong if they are changed to something actually fitting

Like what happened to drypto

[coarse inlet]

There is if the original one kicks ass

Then it’s sad

And it’s still fitting if you don’t take everything super literally

[left spear]

It was exageration, i don't care that much just as i don't care about shitty names like Dracorex, just think it's a waste.

[coarse inlet]

Well given that they aren’t going to find a 100 mile long snake from Scandinavia I think that’s silly

[plush nacelle]

Old basic ass names are the best

[left spear]

Doesn't need to be exactly that, but atleast give It to either a sea snake or a northern european marine reptile

[left spear]

Most times actually yes

[coarse inlet]

A cursorial predator with clear adaptations for seizing and not letting go. Seems perfect to name after a hunter who never let its prey escape

[left spear]

Also again no it's not fitting, literally the only thing It has in common is being a predator

[coarse inlet]

You’re just looking for a reason to be mad

Mosasaurs are basically sea serpents

[shell sonnet]

I'm sorry what does all this have to do with species suggestions

[left spear]

Every north american tyrannosauroid from that time ever

[left spear]

If you say so

[coarse inlet]

Its from a place with a name based on Norse mythology

[left spear]

True

Anyways just make Drypto a Nano alt, It works great as that

[coarse inlet]

It’s literally the first North American tyrannosauroid known to science

[left spear]

Don't see how that relates to the name

[shell sonnet]

We should be supporting animals that need more love like Arctocyon, one of the largest omnivores of the Palaeocene

[left spear]

Ugly

I like it

[shell sonnet]

Deinodon has it beat there, Drypto is just the first that's still considered valid

[plush nacelle]

Paleocene is so awesome

Psittacotherium ...

[shell sonnet]

There's species found in both Europe and NA, so there's plenty of alt potential for Arctocyon

[shell sonnet]

Stylinodontids are so much fun

The fact that WWB outright skipped the Palaeocene is outright criminal

[abstract compass]

Dryptosaurus would be cool

[shell sonnet]

Here's a solution: we split N. lethaeus into its own genera, Nanolaelaps.

[plush nacelle]

And miocene, which was arguably even more criminal

Imagine how different mammal requests would be depending on WWB choices

Riversleigh episode with weird marsupials ....

[faint oak]

me suiting up to leap into the trenches for Nanotyrannus the GOAT (Greatest Of All Tyrannosaurs):

https://tenor.com/view/mark3suite-up-gif-24243870

nano too cool sorry fam

and also fills a more unique game niche than a ton of other theropods

the small-medium end of the size spectrum could use more critters, and nano slots in very nicely