Community Species Suggestions

[amber field]

I think it's moddable , it uses unity, and it's easy to find tool for them

[steep tulip]

Vivariums are definitely a whole lot easier to mod in since they have no onthogeny

And set animations

[sharp dock]

hard pass

[steep tulip]

I think what they meant is that modding in an exhibit species is almost impossible due to all the work it requires

[amber field]

Even Habitat animals, there unity bundle where you extract and import assets

[zealous hedge]

My favorite one Marine is Ichthyosauria add in PK ocean????

[quick ore]

ocean?

[zealous hedge]

Yes

[quick ore]

what do you mean by ocean

we arent going to have like, literal oceans in the game or anything if we get aquatics

[plush nacelle]

People who tried to mod PK described it as really hard

[amber field]

but as you said above normal ones, is a bit harder than vivariums

[zealous hedge]

Larger aquarium tank for marines

[short rover]

Ichthyosaurus

It’s like in top 3 must have marine reptiles for me

[zealous hedge]

Yeah

[amber field]

Really ?

[plush nacelle]

Yes

[zealous hedge]

Archelon add in PK semi aquatic turtle???

[short rover]

It’s aquatic

Not semi aquatic

But yes hopefully one day

[coarse inlet]

Not Jaekelopterus?

[short rover]

I want jaekel for full exhibit

[quick ore]

Hibber was semi aquatic

that's why it has the highest likeliehood unless we get fully aquatics one day

[coarse inlet]

I see

Honestly the turtle I want most isn’t Archelon

[quick ore]

same

I want some recently extinct tortoises or pleistocene tortoises

like Megalochelys

[coarse inlet]

Stupendemys is my want

Really cool freshwater Cenozoic species

[reef relic]

Could be neat for sure, but considering there's no diving in PK right now they'd have to adjust the swimming system pretty heavily.

[coarse inlet]

And with neat dimorphism

[coarse inlet]

I’m writing this under the assumption that those things will be added in update 18

[reef relic]

That's why I'm thinking crocodilians might not be likely additions. You could get away with Spinosaurus and Baryonyx chilling at the surface, but things like Ambulocetus, Deinosuchus, and other speculated guys are kinda eh

[quick ore]

there's no way we aren't getting Deinosuchus

and because of that, I think diving is inevitable

[coarse inlet]

I mean if they’re adding those which seems likely then that’d probably come with diving and such

[quick ore]

or Sarcho

either or

[reef relic]

In a perfect world - the water system rework

[quick ore]

we will get at least one big semi aquatic croc

[reef relic]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[quick ore]

they are just too popular to pass up and if either are dlc they would sell really well

[late swallow]

[Hopefully]

[reef relic]

You've got the potential for alt species too, with both. Though we only have two Sarcosuchus species and we have like four from Deinosuchus

[lean hound]

One of EZ's favourites..😔

[late swallow]

Why would you alt sarco

Imperator is fine

[quick ore]

also it is a bit of a lesser point in its favor but I also think Deinosuchus has a high likeliehood because of its inclusion in Prehistoric Park and, thus, it would be fitting for Nigel to talk about it

[coarse inlet]

They may have used those shell horns to fight each other

[reef relic]

I suppose it'd be an excuse to give it each species a wildly different body texture, like with Spinosaurus. I think there's a moderate size difference between the two as well

[late swallow]

Could just do the skin thing with the single species

[coarse inlet]

A freshwater DLC would rule tbh. I’m thinking Stupendemys, Gaiasia, Lurdusaurus,
Vancleavea, Enhydriodon, Smilosuchus, and some vivarium species

[quick ore]

Crassigyrinus 💔

[late swallow]

Stupendymus I'd unironically a goated pick

[reef relic]

Stupendous turtle

[coarse inlet]

That’d be a perfect vivarium pick

[reef relic]

Stupendous choice
(See what I did there?)

[late swallow]

Everything I've found [which is very little] shows them near identical in length

[zealous hedge]

Birds

[late swallow]

Okay

[digital pendant]

Stupendemys mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[short rover]

Real

Even beyond diving which would be ideal, the water in the game now just isn’t that good imo

I’m sure the devs will cook tho

[late swallow]

More pond colours

[zealous hedge]

Add this

[zealous hedge]

Yes

I like ducks and bird flies

[reef relic]

Ive said it before but I do enjoy the PZ water system and hope we get something similar.
They wouldn't be able to copy the system directly because it's voxel based. I just like the setting water levels design

The water can be a lot close to high terrain too. God that bugs the heck outta me in this game

[steep tulip]

Devs stated multiple times that unfortunately its not possible for how the game was builded up upon

[short rover]

What’s that supposed to be, a teratorn?

[steep tulip]

So they would have to unravel everything code wise and at this point of the game it's not worth it

[plush nacelle]

Good bird = haast eagle

[steep tulip]

Something along those lines

[late swallow]

Good bird = Archaeopteryx

[short rover]

Haasts Eagle, argent, and pela are my most wanted aviary birds (non minis)

[reef relic]

Revamping the water system in general? Or are you referring to the way PZ does it

[steep tulip]

Getting something similar as pz

[reef relic]

Oh yeah

[zealous hedge]

Teratornis merriami flies birds

[reef relic]

All I want is to be able to make raised terrain and not have it eat the pond from a hundred feet away

[steep tulip]

The one in pz works because it has voxel terrain, which means that the water itself is volumetric

[zealous hedge]

They good hunter

[steep tulip]

We might still get diving and underwater viewing

[short rover]

Not a very good recon but maybe as an argent alt or something

[steep tulip]

With diving having some limitations because realistically they can't interact with the terrain topology

[coarse inlet]

How is it not?

[short rover]

Face looks odd and legs should be longer

[zealous hedge]

I try searching good hunter birds

[coarse inlet]

Legs look pretty long and the face is speculative

[short rover]

By face I meant head

Beak doesn’t look like that

[zealous hedge]

Oh good bird beautiful

[coarse inlet]

See the legs seem too short here

[short rover]

? You can’t see it’s legs

[coarse inlet]

Exactly

They’d be visible in this pose

[short rover]

Anyways, my point is that the recon initially posted seems to be the old depiction of teratorns being just big vultures which is outdated and gives the wrong impression about what they were doing

[short rover]

They would not

[quick ore]

Teratorn would be a bad choice unless we get fliers

[coarse inlet]

They’re longer than the tail fan

[quick ore]

people wouldn't be happy seeing it in a viv

[short rover]

Ofc, id want it to be an aviary animal

[coarse inlet]

Yeah I think that’s a given when stuff like this is suggested

[short rover]

The tail fan in the recon I posted is big and the angle it’s flying at is banking towards the “camera” blocking the view of the legs fine.

[plush nacelle]

Could argent take off just like that?

[short rover]

Like what?

[shell sonnet]

Look, end of the day most reconstructions of Argentvis are based on Teratornis because we don't have much of the former

[short rover]

Well yea

[zealous hedge]

Good birds can roam wild flies prey on small dinosaurs

[plush nacelle]

Speaking of bird, how would pelargornis flight look like in the game

Would it do albatros run

Or just jump like most birds do

[zealous hedge]

Small birds stay in aviavry

Or roam

[plush nacelle]

Small birds stay in aviary

[zealous hedge]

What about Large birds

[short rover]

They’re not in the game yet

[zealous hedge]

Ok I just curious ask.

[zealous hedge]

Birds small to bigger @short rover

[late swallow]

Seagull, flamingo, kiwi, emu, ostrich, toucan

[hollow furnace]

Kiwi for PK when

[late swallow]

When we get fütbol assets

[coarse inlet]

Argentavis is seriously oversized here

[left spear]

The giant coastal Kiwi would go hard as a viv being real

[zealous hedge]

Yeah

[late swallow]

Literally what darth said in disc

[left spear]

maybe they haven't ckecked It yet

[late swallow]

Also auk is in there, all 5 pixels of it

[coarse inlet]

What’s weird is there seems to be a correctly sized if overly vulturine Argent on the ground

[late swallow]

I also see dodo and a really fat penguin

And I think at the end of the line it's Moa, Kelenken, Elephant Bird

[left spear]

Apteryx littoralis, would be really fun for Both Normal kingdom parks and Oceania parks

Around 40cm tall so a Big boy among kiwis

Also the oldest known Apteryx species

[zealous hedge]

I want birds add in PK

[left spear]

We already have 2 depending on who you ask

And a Phorusracid is likely for EA

Specifically Kelenken

[late swallow]

Is it?

[left spear]

Kele was pretty readable imo in the old roadmap

Besides even then i'd say It would be a likely candidate for 19

Even more if there already were 2 readable south american animals in there too

Obviously nothing is guaranteed but i'm pretty confident

[plush nacelle]

Wouldnt say kelenken was readable

Definitely more than that one mini

[left spear]

Poor peltephilus

It never had a chance

[plush nacelle]

If we only knew about mammal being semi-aquatic

[hollow flower]

Weird hunchback shark aka Cobelodus

[left spear]

Kobold shark

I like it

[late swallow]

Neat cartilaginous fish

May have been one of the dickheads

[short rover]

It def wasn’t, was one of the harder names but it seemed to fit the best

And also I’m on copium

More like hopium at this point

[plush nacelle]

There is also diet to match

[short rover]

Mhmm

[plush nacelle]

And animal was neither -saurus nor mammal

[left spear]

Okay this may sounds heretical but that Coty restoration is disgusting

Blasfemous even

[silver steeple]

You could at least put a little more effort into your suggestions. Add a name and reason for inclusion or something. Spamming unnamed pictures is a great way to just annoy people

[shell sonnet]

If this was Mau's first intro to the animal, you can sort of understand why he hates it

[coarse inlet]

My first thought was “did Peters make this” which is always a bad sign

[left spear]

I do like Atopo's pattern here

Coloration is decent too, maybe a bit too bright

[steep tulip]

Atopo for full exhibits even if it probably won't happen but I still cope

[coarse inlet]

I would love that

I’d pay for an entire DLC just for Triassic marine stuff tbh

So much good shit

[steep tulip]

Truth...

[late swallow]

Same

[left spear]

Doesn't even need to be triassic every period has peak ocean enough for like 2/+2 dlcs

[late swallow]

Triassic has so much potential

Ischigulasto sits there untapped

[coarse inlet]

True

For Semiaquatic stuff Askeptosaurus, Qianosuchus, Placodus (?), and Atopodentatus would be good for Triassic marine stuff

[late swallow]

Hererra, Eoraptor, Aetosauroides, Hyperodapedon, Ischigulastia, Eodromeus, Sillosuchus

[hollow flower]

No genuinely the Triassic is criminally underrated

Frankly its given a disservice in most media

[left spear]

Askepto mentioned 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[late swallow]

I'm still hype-training Juramaia

[shell sonnet]

I wouldn't push hard for Sillosuchus

[hollow flower]

Are you sure?

[late swallow]

Isolated vertebrae

[shell sonnet]

Yeah, we don't have much of it and the larger estimate is based on like a few fragments

Like we don't have the skull of the main one

[steep tulip]

Placodus mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/dog-leaf-blower-absurd-brown-rage-gif-25127611

[late swallow]

PVL 2267(yellow) is just isolated vertebrae

Some shuvosaurid would be neat

[shell sonnet]

Ischigualasto pack:
Eoraptor lunensis
Herreasaurus ischigualastensis
Saurosuchus galilei
Exaeretodon argentinus
Ischigualastia jenseni
Pisanosaurus mertii (mini)
Hyperodapedon sanjuanensis (mini)

You have to have Hyperodapedon and Exaeretodon, they're key to dating things in the formation

[late swallow]

For shizzle

Why no Eodromeus?

[steep tulip]

I def want a rhynchosaur for minis

[hollow flower]

You could honestly make a Triassic pack purely out of herbivores

[shell sonnet]

Don't know, I think I was trying to limit myself six or so habitat ones

[hollow flower]

Which just reminded me that Plateosaurus is already in the game

[shell sonnet]

Then again, Eodromaeus is likely a mini

[quick ore]

what is this screenshot

[late swallow]

What

Which one

[sinful coyote]

the one that just got deleted

[zealous hedge]

Camptosaurus

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/daring-today-are-we-spongebob-squidward-gif-22508233

[zealous hedge]

No, I try nice. Camptosaurus can add in PK

[slim flare]

Camptosaurus can add in PK

[left spear]

Yeah we should add PK to Camptosaurus

[silver steeple]

But can Camptosaurus run Doom?

[quick ore]

can it subtract?

[late swallow]

Yes, but can it run crysis

[zealous hedge]

Add Jump

[neat iris]

Cronopio plz devs

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-scrat-cracking-ice-jumping-on-nut-oops-gif-794136390495367648

[tidal flame]

I need my extinct waterfowls

[coarse inlet]

Honestly I’d like Incisivosaurus as a vivarium species. It feels like that weird little dude has been forgotten since its brief moment of popularity in the 00s but it’s really neat

And of course was in Prehistoric Park which is always a plus

[silver steeple]

Wait is it really that tiny

[coarse inlet]

It’s 1 meter long

[silver steeple]

Dang

I always thought it was the size of Ovi ngl

[coarse inlet]

Nah it’s like 1/3 the size of Psittaco

[silver steeple]

Yeah I was just looking at that chart

[toxic oriole]

Whats this here?

Some sort of fossil formation featuring all those animals?

[coarse inlet]

Yeah

One of the Liaoning members

But mainly posted it because it was the only good size comparison for Incisivosaurus I could find

[toxic oriole]

I can see the big ones would be outside of vivariums

Even if one is just another Psittacosaurus member

[coarse inlet]

AFAIK it’s very likely that this is the Psittacosaurus sp. in the game

Since it’s from the same place

And I don’t think any other Psittacosaurus species are known from the Yixian

[outer moth]

While Campto is cool n all, we don't use Prehistoric Wildlife sizes

They dramatically oversize their animals

[lean hound]

I forget how big it is

I always remember it with a similar size to dryo

[sharp dock]

I love camptosaurus, it's a qt

[silver steeple]

Tbf, it's not that much larger

[shell sonnet]

I don't think we have any adult Dryos, so who knows how big they got.

[left spear]

Amargasaurus sized dryosaurus

[zealous hedge]

Can Edaphosaurus add in PK???? Lizard

[lean hound]

would be pretty cool

[late swallow]

An interesting foil to Dime

[ancient ibex]

Will stan this pelycosaur grade selection

[late swallow]

Real question is which Edapho species

[ancient ibex]

A few

[shell sonnet]

Edaphosaurus cruciger/pogonias/boanerges/novomexicanus

That's my selection

[ancient ibex]

Emily Stepp made quite neat animal selections

[shell sonnet]

Missing Eryops

[ancient ibex]

Eryops is not a pelycosaur

Stem-amphibian rather than stem-mammal

[shell sonnet]

I thought it was the red beds in general

I only glanced at the image

and relied on muscle memory for the rest

[ancient ibex]

dw

[late swallow]

Good news, it's on the other image!

[shell sonnet]

Did diadectes actually look like that, it looks like a retro-ankylosaur

[late swallow]

Pw spotted

[quick ore]

Can we stop with just posting images of a bunch of random animals without saying anything

[late swallow]

Though, depending on species, that edapho isn't too far off

It doesn't look to be pogonias

Exposed tips or no for yall for dime?

[shell sonnet]

I would assume boanerges, but it's not quite that

[late swallow]

In which case it's like they took the silhouette and scaled it by like 150-175%

[shell sonnet]

Looking at it again, it looks like they took an old skeletal of cruciger

[inner wedge]

the Camptosaurus has no games

[steep tulip]

Live estemmenosuchus reaction

[inner wedge]

Estemmennosuchus announcement

[late swallow]

I fw it

[dull aurora]

guanlong

[coarse inlet]

Fr the old Guanlong skins were so good

[silver steeple]

For the most part

[coarse inlet]

I thought they were all bangers tbh

[late swallow]

Guanlong is just a cool animal

[silver steeple]

Clouded was mid as hell imo

[coarse inlet]

How dare you

[silver steeple]

The other two were great

[late swallow]

That clouded looks...

[silver steeple]

Clouded just didn't get a good execution tbh

The concept is fine

[coarse inlet]

How is this not sick af

[silver steeple]

But feathers don't really mimic fur patterns in that way

So it looks super weird if you understand that

[coarse inlet]

Ok but ignore the spots on the torso, the neck, tail, and head are GORGEOUS

[silver steeple]

Tail, eh

Neck and head are nice tho

Even with the tail you're ignoring 1/2 of the animal lol

[coarse inlet]

I mean this is also a very old skin I imagine if updated the spots would look way better

[silver steeple]

If you feel like you have to ignore half the animal for the skin to look good, then it's not a good skin

[silver steeple]

Sure but that's not really the point here

I'm talking about as it is

[coarse inlet]

Well all of the old ones look a bit janky as is

[silver steeple]

I even said it's conceptually fine

[silver steeple]

There's still plenty of old skins in the game

Some slightly redone and some not

[coarse inlet]

Like the spots would not show up that way in the current game even without any redesign because of how the feather shader works

[silver steeple]

If anything that would make it look even weirder

[late swallow]

Oldest iirc is Leatherhide

[silver steeple]

In total yes

Though rex was one of (if not the) last animals finished of the original 50

I know it was the last one revealed but that may not necessarily reflect when it was finished

[hard elbow]

Clouded Guanlong being ass is something the community has agreed upon for years atp

[median relic]

wdym exactly

[hard elbow]

Yeah, the general idea has potential but it'd need to be redesigned so thoroughly that it may as well be a completely new skin. As it is, clouded is ass

[late swallow]

Individuals are allowed opinions

[silver steeple]

The way that feathers are constructed basically just doesn't really allow for big rossette-esk spots like that

It's definitely not something we really see

[shell sonnet]

No, you have to accept the opinion of the loudest as the only valid ones

[late swallow]

Do I think it's a good skin? Not personally but I can see the appeal

[hard elbow]

Iirc even the devs weren't fond of it. I think Medena attempted a redesign way back when, in an unofficial capacity

[late swallow]

Bog true

[silver steeple]

Most birds with spots have very solid small dots

I don't know of a single one with those leopard-jaguar like spots

[hard elbow]

I mean yeah but the guy was acting surprised by someone disliking it, and I was going "yeah most people don't and never did"

[silver steeple]

I knew I remembered something like this

[shell sonnet]

I mean Guanlong isn't a bird

[hard elbow]

Like seriously people have disliked that skin for years

[silver steeple]

So what

It's a feathered animal

We don't see that kind of pattern in feathered animals

So it looks really jank

[hard elbow]

It's up there with cocoa bean ourano and old psychedelic styrac as some of the least popular skins (or at least the ones people have vocally expressed distaste for)

[hard elbow]

And yeah this

[late swallow]

I interpreted it differently

[hard elbow]

It's just an issue with how feathers are structured

And also like, it's kind of a pattern so strongly associated with felids/carnivorans it looks weird on a dinosaur 1-1

Like you could do a feathered dinosaur with the exact coloration of a mallard and it'd technically be possible but it would look weird

[shell sonnet]

Does this count.

[silver steeple]

See how different that is to a leopard or ocelot or whatever

If you redid Clouded with something closer to this, it would be so much better

[hard elbow]

Mhmm

Although imo I'd be fine with totally new skins across the board

[silver steeple]

I liked Masked quite a bit actually

Ruffled I think could use a little flair (maybe sexual dimorphism if it didn't already have it?)

[hard elbow]

Oh yeah the first two are decent, but I don't feel especially attached to them

[silver steeple]

Clouded needs an entire remake tho

[hard elbow]

Ruffled I think flows a little too similarly to masked, if that makes sense

[silver steeple]

Or just scrap it all together

[hard elbow]

Like it feels almost like a palette swap

[silver steeple]

That's fair

[hard elbow]

It's a good palette swap but they'd need to switch up the patterns

[silver steeple]

Ruffled could have easily been female Masked lol

[hard elbow]

Yeah lmfao

[tough marsh]

No

[tough marsh]

This is a remake of Romer 1940

[zealous hedge]

Can Edaphosaurus add in PK???? Lizard

[median relic]

how so?

I'm curious

[silver steeple]

I don't have anything on me but bird feathers just don't align in any way to create something like that

Almost all spots you see on birds are from a single feather, not multiple

[coarse inlet]

I mean contour feathers are also different from what you’d see on tyrannosauroids

[silver steeple]

It still happens on simple feathers

[neat iris]

Would be cool

They already might be adding dimetrodon at some point, so it would be interesting to have a herbivorous sailback to go with it

[slow shoal]

i feel like edapho is a shoe in for a permian expansion

[late swallow]

Fat

[zealous hedge]

Thank

[tame thorn]

If dimetrodon gets in I will be pretty damn happy. So many fossils of it

[slim flare]

Have we named every extinct species twice now?

[flint sable]

probably not

theres probably like 8,000 random trilobites and fish nobody has ever heard of that has been named

as for tetrapods..?

I wont rule that out

[slim flare]

If you think trilobites are so cool, why isn’t there a trilobite 8,001?

[shell sonnet]

It's also false

[hollow furnace]

there is

[flint sable]

I was joking lol

[hollow furnace]

there are 22000+ trilobites

[flint sable]

obviosly we havent named every single tetrapod lmao

fossil one anyway

as a result, I sugguest Ambruster's Wolf

which hasnt been formally sugguested here yet

[slim flare]

Denied

3 dire wolf skins ftw

Each a different subspecies

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/go-outside-nerd-baby-billy-uncle-baby-billy-righteous-gemstones-the-righteous-gemstones-gif-17395120696599229295

[flint sable]

fine, Macraucheniopsis

nobody has formally requested it, either

[steep tulip]

Valdosaurus

No wait
We add fushanosaurus

Damn I already suggested those lmao

Uhh

Kansaignathus

No way someone already requested it 😭

Sanxiasaurus

[sinful spruce]

Neilpeartia

[steep tulip]

There

[silver steeple]

Well there are at least 1000 species of dinosaur so probably not quite yet

Probably not far off tho

[flint sable]

how long would it even take to like

fact check that though

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

Could probably set up a bot to do it

[flint sable]

honestly theres a non zero chance every single non dubious dinosaur genus has been said here at least one

possibly not

[flint sable]

likely

[flint sable]

not this channel btw, no chance

this server though? possible

[late swallow]

Should add Dracovenator

[silver steeple]

Sure, but I think Satan was talking about the forum

[flint sable]

true, but in that case definitely not lol

there is actually 1 single list with every single dinosaur genera

so you could 100% set up a bot to do it

[coarse inlet]

There are some that have not been said

I counted at least 6 basal Sauropodomorphs which have not been mentioned on this server

[tough marsh]

There’s a bunch of therapsids that haven’t been said

[quaint plank]

I spy a coty

[ancient ibex]

Best Caseiid

[shell sonnet]

Thank you for answering this

[tough marsh]

Always

[tough marsh]

I have a good recon of it if your intrested

[shell sonnet]

Sure

[ancient ibex]

AMNH mount looks like that, I suppose the large feature scales were an artistic choice

[tough marsh]

Yeah

Again Permian animal

They suffer from a bunch of misinformation

Most Moschops recons use the wrong skull

[shell sonnet]

Shame, Moschops is probably my favorite

[ancient ibex]

A name that fills your mouth

[tough marsh]

from joschua knüppe

[shell sonnet]

Interesting, how amphibious would it have been.

[sharp dock]

hands

[tough marsh]

imo not really

though im not an expert on them

[shell sonnet]

Well I don't know anyone on here more knowledgeable about them than you, so I'll take your word for now.

[ancient ibex]

They are pan-amniotans, and we developed landgoing skin before the amniote egg IIRC

I believe we have aquatic larvae of clades with heavy landgoing adults

(then again, dragonflies still do that)

Seymouriamorphs were the ones with aquatic larvae fwiw

[shell sonnet]

Seymouria is actually one I've considered for the viviarium but it's low on the list

[ancient ibex]

It is a neat one ngl

Could work with the smallest size as well

Gila frog

[shell sonnet]

It's one those animals that you see often enough in dino books that spare a little space for the pre-dino stuff.

[shell sonnet]

Kind of like Ichthyostega, Eusthenopteron, Cynognathus, Lystrosaurus, Eryops, and Hylonomus.

[ancient ibex]

All quite neat picks, sans Hylonomus being IMO too small

[shell sonnet]

Well I wasn't suggesting them per say (Tiktaalik occupies a similar niche as Ichthyo and Eusthenop), just making a point they're some of the more common pre-dinos in books, but I wouldn't oppose anyone of them.

I don't know if Hylonomus is too small though, it's not big but it's 20 cm in length, which is Zalambdalestes-size.

[toxic oriole]

La Colonia formation representation I guess
Carnotaurus is coming anyways, but how about this guy and others from that place
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koleken

[lean hound]

eh

There's better abelisaurs out there to represent I'd say

[slim flare]

I too want Kelenken

[zealous hedge]

you can make limit hunting, I not like spreeing.

[toxic oriole]

tbf I was just using it as an example for the La Colonia formation

And its unlikely the animal may get in

Though I wonder, since Carnotaurus is the star of that formation...

Are there any others in that place that are popular?

[shell sonnet]

I think it's fine if Carnotaurus is the only La Colonia rep we get. Which really speaks to the strengths of Carno.

[toxic oriole]

If you ask me, I'd just like 3-5 animals, maybe more to represent some formations

Seems rather unfair to have one animal from one formation be the only one

And kinda saddening

Eh, I know Carnotaurus is coming to the game anyways

I just don't want some animals to be the only representatives of their formation

Popular or not, I want some of them to have some relativity

At least so that they can have more acknowledgement

[coarse inlet]

La Colonia is really not a great site to focus on

Koleken I could only see as an alt for Carno

[toxic oriole]

Could probs take some of the mammals that were found there for some vivarium stuff

Seems like a fair payoff for me

[coarse inlet]

And I’d prefer Carno to have 3 skins

[proper raven]

only reason id see koleken tbh is if its an ontogeny phase for carno

this isnt me saying koleken is a juvie carno

but just using koleken to piece together a juvie carno ingame

[coarse inlet]

Yeah

[steep tulip]

The parankylosaur could be stegourus alt

[toxic oriole]

If it does get named or described, yeah

Though to be fair, Stegouros would have WAY too many alts

[coarse inlet]

I just don’t think it’s worth it there are already 3 more important parankylosaurs

[toxic oriole]

If it gets added it'd have way too many

OR

It'd be an animal with one of the most alts in the game

[shell sonnet]

In some cases, one has to accept that. Mutta and Sceldio are the only things worth having from their formation but they're still arguably must have animals. Same with Carno, Amarga, Salta, Kunbarra, and Australovenator (lots of Gondwanaland dinos here). Same is true with certain Cenozoic mammals.

[steep tulip]

I also prefer antarctopelta as a stego alt
But still an option

[toxic oriole]

Well most of the roster is bloated anyways, some formation rep has much roster bloat

[shell sonnet]

I hate the phrase bloat as a description for zoo rosters and it certainly doesn't apply to PK

[toxic oriole]

Would it apply to other games? Doesn't matter for me

[shell sonnet]

I would not use that for other games that exist

[toxic oriole]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanomachya
Well theres this guy from the formation Carno comes from

Could be alt material for other saltasaurs

Then again, Alamosaurus from NA would also do

[shell sonnet]

Besides being small, there's nothing really appealing about this animal

[steep tulip]

This guy ain't all of that

[shell sonnet]

We don't have any ostoderms

This is not a Salta alt

[toxic oriole]

... Okay then, Dreadnoughtus alt for some reason

[proper raven]

bloat honestly for me refers more like something thats haphazardly done just to fill an empty slot whether intentional or not

see: archeornithomimus

[steep tulip]

Dread can stand on its own tbh

[toxic oriole]

Eh

[proper raven]

saltasauroid

is a very broad term

[steep tulip]

Oh you meant titanomachya as dread alt

Idk then

[toxic oriole]

Even if they never met in life nor co-existed...

[shell sonnet]

Bloat is something I would say if the addition leads to a dip in quality, not necessarily low effort.

[proper raven]

yea

just a lower quality thing thats just meant to be there to fill up space

also ngl idk what is special abt titanomachya beyond it living with Carno and being small

[toxic oriole]

Aside from the mammals of La Colonia for additional stuff, what else could there be done?

[shell sonnet]

Nothing

[toxic oriole]

GOod grief

[steep tulip]

There's an undescribed hadrosaur
I know probably no one wants it but it is also known from very good remains

[toxic oriole]

Well then, I guess that hadrosaur will have to be described

I aint giving up on La Colonia

[ancient ibex]

Don't fixate on single dig sites

[toxic oriole]

I'll take any excuse just to get some MORE representation for that place, even if Carnotaurus is the star it should have a local animal to come alongside it tbf

[ancient ibex]

There are quite a few more Campano-Maastrichian dinosaur-bearing rocks in Argentina

[shell sonnet]

I'm sure there's an Austrokritosaurian worth adding but my wants for Hadrosaurs is filled up at the moment.

[toxic oriole]

Infact, I'd do the same thing for other formations around the world

[steep tulip]

But anyway

Not like you would house carno with anything else

So it doesn't matter too much

[ancient ibex]

With a Majunga fren

[toxic oriole]

I just suggest animals REGARDLESS of what other people think, not because of "The rules", but because I can.

[steep tulip]

That would be pretty wholesome lol
Like tiger lions kind deal

Except in this case it's more like a cheetah maybe

[toxic oriole]

I don't give a shit if somethings a "nothingburger" or a "glupshitto"

I'd suggest it ANYWAYS.

... Then again, even I know theres gotta be critics for stuff like this

[steep tulip]

Me

If you suggest nanuqsaurus I will jump at you

[ancient ibex]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecho_Formation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Formation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lago_Colhué_Huapí_Formation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorrillo_Formation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacleto_Formation

Basically, for terminal cretaceous Argentina, we gotta have abelisaurs (so Carno), megaraptorans, saltasaurs, unenlagians, and austrokritosaurs; noasaurs, alvarezsaurs, elasmarians and parankylosaurs were also around

[steep tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/foxy-jump-gif-16522382895351072206

Like this

[ancient ibex]

You can say stuff, and other people can respond to it

[toxic oriole]

Even I recognise that

Even I recognise that criticism is a necessity

Doesn't change my mind on my picks, I'm just leaving it there regardless

[digital pendant]

for it being a suggestions chat, there is too much unwarranted criticism

[toxic oriole]

Since Bary is coming to the game at some point... Hmmm

Could go for another Baryonychine spinosaur

... Suchosaurus as a bary alt

Yes, Suchosaurus is dubious (seen as it often) due to little remains and such

Its also from the area Baryonyx was located in or something, so uhhh

Synonymous alt right there, regardless of taxon stuff

[slim flare]

I really really want to see stuff on Bary

[ancient ibex]

A concept art tease would go a long while ngl

[hollow furnace]

No new update 16 reveals until the trailer, so just update 17 and 18 reveals instead

[short rover]

The trailer is gonna be a crazy drop

[steep tulip]

december surprise update and its just stegosaurus (best update)

[inner wedge]

december surprise update adds nanuqsaurus for the joy of @steep tulip

be jolly!

[steep tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/btweers-treyreloaded-gif-18046925350882378762

nah pk devs too based

they will do the nanuqsaurus dlc (only containing nanuqsaurus) and that will satiate the people asking for it

[inner wedge]

oop the game bugged again, nanuqsaurus becomes the only animal you can breed in the nursery (even w/o dlc)

[short rover]

Joy of nobody!

[steep tulip]

spitting

if you like nanuqsaurus you dont count as a human being Im sorry

[late swallow]

reasonable

[late swallow]

i know i dont!

[zealous hedge]

Look like dinosaur

[short rover]

It is dinosaur

[outer crater]

Add nuralagus immediately

[hollow furnace]

Add nuralagus in 3-5 business days

[outer crater]

https://tenor.com/view/big-chungus-gif-25288755

[steep tulip]

The island nuralagus was found in also has hoplitomeryx

And deinogaleryx

[flint sable]

no

nurulagus is from the baelarics

hoplitomeryx and deinogalerix inhabited Gargano Island

which is now a part of mainland italy

[steep tulip]

Oh damn I confused it with another one 😭

Prolagus (which is also a pika)

Giant brain fart

Pikas, giant otters, cold blooded goats, dholes
Europe lost so much of its fauna

[ancient ibex]

Europe is just an Asian peninsula anyway

Still, plenty of endemisms due to the ice sheet isulating it

[slim flare]

Deinocheirus when it was only arms and after we found the rest

[left spear]

God old deinocheirus was horrid

I always hated that thing

[slim flare]

I mean wasn’t it just a giant Ornithomimid?

[left spear]

Yes, and i hated it (It being depicted as naked in my Dino books from when i was a kid probably didn't help)

[flint sable]

watch the same thing that happened to deinocheirus happen to theri

[left spear]

Theri is pretty bulky tbf

Although It would be funny if It was revealed to be a 13t absolute unit

[flint sable]

nah not nessicarily a weight increase

but we just discover something drastic about it that makes it really different from the other members of the clade

since iirc most depictions of theri nowadays used medium sized therizinosaurs as refference

which is kinda what Deinocheirus was doing

[slim flare]

American palaeontologist Thomas R. Holtz stated in an interview that the new Deinocheirus remains looked like the "product of a secret love affair between a hadrosaur and Gallimimus".

[flint sable]

so if we end up finding more about theri and it ends up being super weird even for its clade, that could be interesting

[left spear]

Quadrupedal theri

[flint sable]

I think if we did find that theri was more different than we thought, it wouldnt nessicarily be as drastic as Deinocheirus, but a possibility

[flint sable]

ture....

the claws actually had keratin hoof sheaths that it used to walk on its nails

[left spear]

Return to origins

[neat iris]

Plz devs give us theri

https://tenor.com/view/tyrannosaurus-trex-fighting-dinosaur-gif-17293452

[slim flare]

U19 🤞

[hollow furnace]

Naked theri like that one specifically

[slim flare]

Better than the half-feathered JWD monstrosity

[steep tulip]

the jwd theri is as bad as the baryonyx

it gets a slight plus because at least its not naked

[left spear]

And because unlike bary It doesn't have dogshit scenes

[coarse inlet]

my guess is a unique skull and feeding apparatus

[coarse inlet]

I disagree, it's not accurate but it works for what it is imo

whereas the Baryonyx is not only inaccurate it's inaccurate in a way that makes it actively less cool

[steep tulip]

Idk, if it didn't have the claws I would have a hard time telling what animal it is supposed to be
But it comes down to personal preference as always lol

[late swallow]

im not even gonna attempt to defend that thing cause i can't stand it

but Universal's Giga? inaccurate as hell but that thing serves

[left spear]

Serves as generic lame baddie Guy villain

[coarse inlet]

see I have the exact opposite opinion

[late swallow]

reasonable

i just like the Gigachad it serves

also Frontiers is assss

[coarse inlet]

I find the Dominion Giga to be visually messy and boring, whereas the Dominion Theri has a unique look even if it's not perfect

[coarse inlet]

ok now this is I cannot even begin to understand

Frontier's giga is outdated but still is clearly a Giga

and its patterns are really good

[left spear]

Frontier giga is inoffensive, i can get not liking It but don't really know how you can dislike it

[late swallow]

i didn't care for the patterns, but that's neither here nor there. not as bad as their carch, which i may be mixing up in my mind atm

[coarse inlet]

it's very Gurney-esque

[left spear]

Only bad thing is the derpy eye

[coarse inlet]

oh yeah, that thing is garbage

the Carch I mean

[late swallow]

yeah i'm thinking the carch

[coarse inlet]

I remember how utterly baffled I was when that was released

[neat iris]

Oh yeah, that’s another one
Giga plz devs

[late swallow]

i would use Universal and Frontiers gigas as dimorphism

[coarse inlet]

especially coming off of the high of the JPOG Carch

[late swallow]

prints dlc sales

[neat iris]

https://tenor.com/view/giganotosaurus-gif-13780231142772180579

[late swallow]

and i'm a-ok with that

[coarse inlet]

the thing I really cant stand about the Dominion Giga is the teeth, tbh

I would handle everything else if it had lips and good teeth

[late swallow]

we'll have most of the DInosaur cast before end of EA

[coarse inlet]

hmm, true

where's Altirhinus, devs?!

[late swallow]

Edmontonia? i think being the main one

[coarse inlet]

(yes I know in canon he's an Iguanodon who looks like an Altirhinus)

[coarse inlet]

I dont think that was in it, was it?

[late swallow]

Whatever Ed was

[late swallow]

oh gods i don't think i've seen a worse nose

[coarse inlet]

Anky

wait that's Url

who's Ed?

[late swallow]

who fuckin knows mate

its been so long

need to give it a rewatch

so outside of the lemurs we're really only missing Carno

[late swallow]

yeah i was looking at the main main ones

[coarse inlet]

Yeah, I was too this was just the best place I could find them labeled

[late swallow]

that Ovi was one of my first experiences with ovi

[coarse inlet]

yeah

well

[late swallow]

that and LBT2

[coarse inlet]

"Ovi"

[late swallow]

that Citi?

[coarse inlet]

those were Struthiomimus

[late swallow]

were they?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1299416017658839061/1414338675008868464/image0.gif

i see it

[coarse inlet]

it's the unnamed oviraptorid which may or may not be Citipati

[coarse inlet]

he says it in the song

[late swallow]

bruddah what is wrong with me

[coarse inlet]

https://youtu.be/seP1w3XPBfo?si=vEzmIS972gWU-RWk&t=57

[late swallow]

im listening to it rn lmao

[chilly nova]

my only suggestions (lie) are:
(none, there was never one here)
Corythosaurus
Gigantoraptor

[coarse inlet]

...

one of those is already in the game

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-what-the-hell-what-the-fuck-huh-what-gif-16553984

[chilly nova]

wdym

none of them are

[quick ore]

y

[late swallow]

mbic you're trollin

[chilly nova]

seeing things

[quick ore]

are you trying to make it look like you didnt just change Acro to Carno

[chilly nova]

lol

[late swallow]

thats also confirmed

[chilly nova]

I got confused, because it's Giga the big carchar that isn't in the game

[coarse inlet]

there is an Oviraptor in TLBT tho

[late swallow]

she looks like she says slurs

[coarse inlet]

lol

[late swallow]

you see it

[coarse inlet]

not really

anyway, that's another reason to have Saurolophus, so we can have all the main TLBT characters

[chilly nova]

Saurolophus is cool

[coarse inlet]

(since if flyers are added Pteranodon will be the first one)

[chilly nova]

but Charono kinda got in the way

[coarse inlet]

Charono is nothing like Saurolophus though

[chilly nova]

and Ugrunaaluk for whatever reason

[coarse inlet]

despite the name, Parasaurolophus isnt much like Saurolophus

[chilly nova]

I'm saying like hadrosaurs in general

for the base game roster

[coarse inlet]

yeah but alts are easier than more distant species

[late swallow]

we have two and a half Saurolophine hadrosaurids

[chilly nova]

yeah

[late swallow]

Edmontosaurus annectens, Edmontosaurus regalis, and Edmontosaurus regalis but its head goes boingjgngngng

[neat iris]

Corytho, giganto, and carno are still great choices tho

[late swallow]

oh fs

[chilly nova]

Corytho with that clownfish skin pattern from dino dan hhhmmmm

🤤

[quick ore]

pause

what's that emoji for 💀

[chilly nova]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tired-gif-22639183

[late swallow]

oh fuck that

that's hideous

[chilly nova]

having Ugrunaaluk with the two Edmonto species in game is like adding Dracorex or Nanotyrannus, when they're already in the game with the growth system

[left spear]

The crest is nice, the rest burn it on an industrial incineraror

[chilly nova]

noooo

it's peak

[late swallow]

no

[chilly nova]

it's just the old model

[left spear]

Also what are those 1993 toy looking ass sauropods

[late swallow]

looks like i took benadryl and met the hat man

[chilly nova]

forget the part where I say Pachycephalosaurus is in the game pls

oooh

that's a good suggestion actually

[late swallow]

P. wyomingensis and P. spinifer are likely going to come in u17

[chilly nova]

yesssss

[neat iris]

I’m actually a little surprised they haven’t added pachy by now

[chilly nova]

oh yeah

I found a good comparison for Charono

having Charonosaurus in the base game with the 2 Parasaurolphus species is like adding Eotriceratops when there's the 2 Triceratops species
(but contrary to Ugrunaaluk, I do love that Charono gets a chance to be here)

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/american-dragon-jake-long-get-a-load-of-this-yapper-yapping-gif-16008731775495557765

[left spear]

I mean why is either a problem?

They are inoffensive alts

[late swallow]

the only problems are Dracorex and Nanotyrannus

[chilly nova]

Ugru may not even be real

that's the problem

[late swallow]

correct, it's dubious

it wasn't when they decided to add it

[left spear]

Draco is like absolute garbage, Nano atleast has a very Slim chance of getting the bronto treatment

[late swallow]

guess what other nomen dubium is coming to the game

Nano does not deserve it

[left spear]

Tbf i think most people thought the same of bronto

[chilly nova]

to get either of the two it's just the cancel growth thing that's in the game, that they probably added because of these 2

[left spear]

If the paper finds some truly unique traits then i don't see why It can't just stay as a midosaur

[late swallow]

what

Ontogeny had nothing to do with Ugru and Charon

[chilly nova]

nooo

not those 2 lol

Nanno and draco

[left spear]

I mean It isn't really, if they were to be added they would make them somewhat different to the main animal

And Both would be alts

[neat iris]

What about diplodocus? Or do apato and bronto already fill that niche?

[late swallow]

fun part about Dippy is its actually a cool animal

[left spear]

Diplo is a great candidate for the first post EA addition

[chilly nova]

yeah

[toxic oriole]

Supersaurus or Barosaurus...
That is the question

[left spear]

both are DLC leftovers at best

[chilly nova]

imagine a Chimera DLC, for Ultrasauros, Dakotaraptor...

[toxic oriole]

Eocarcharia too, y'know?

[chilly nova]

Saurophaganax.... 😭

[quick ore]

the correct answer is Xinjiangtitan

[toxic oriole]

???

[late swallow]

guess what

we're getting Sauro

[quick ore]

i love the neck freak

[toxic oriole]

Whats a sauropod with the shortest neck?

[chilly nova]

as an Allo species alt?

[toxic oriole]

yep

[cosmic cosmos]

Brachytrachelopan

[chilly nova]

cool

[chilly nova]

whaaaaaaaaat

and y'all said Dino Dan Corytho was hideous???

[cosmic cosmos]

disgusting creature

[toxic oriole]

Now a sauropod with the LONGEST neck

[chilly nova]

Brachiosaurus watching gossip girl (Deadpool joke)

[hollow furnace]

proportionately or absolute

[toxic oriole]

Uhhhhhh

I actually don't know how to answer that one

[chilly nova]

both

[neat iris]

Amargasaurus or nigersaurus?

Or both?

[toxic oriole]

I can take both

[neat iris]

Some small sauropod rep

[toxic oriole]

Nigersaurus would add onto the formation Ouranosaurus is from

I forgot the name

Also the one Suchomimus and Sarcosuchus are from

[left spear]

And sucho, rugops and Sarcho

And Lurdu

[toxic oriole]

and Eocarch

[left spear]

Erlhaz is just goated

[chilly nova]

Tameryraptor? (don't kill me)

[toxic oriole]

Hey, no ones judging you

[open heron]

I can't reply to two comments at once but yeah this is the sauropod with the longest (complete) neck

[open heron]

see ^

[toxic oriole]

It'd fit right in for a lost and found DLC (Lost and found in the sense of destroyed fossils n such)

[cosmic cosmos]

proportionally is Xinjiangtitan

[chilly nova]

Spinosaurus lol

[toxic oriole]

Aegyptosaurus would also be present

And the theme of the Lost Fossils pack has plenty of range
Most of it is from South America or Africa, some in Europe though most fossils got moved to europe and were destroyed at some point

So hey, plenty of range as a DLC idea

[chilly nova]

there's the museum in Rio de Janeiro that burned down

because of shitty management

[toxic oriole]

We lost the largest and most well known specimen of Tropeognathus in 2018 because of that fire

[left spear]

Oh no Oxalaia! ..........

[chilly nova]

Tropeognathus is my top 1 pterosaur

[left spear]

The Tropeo and the rest of the stuff was a tragedy tho

[toxic oriole]

I hear even Tapejara got caught by the fire or I might be mishearing things or misremembering

Or at least a relative of Tapejara

And hey, Tapejarid Pterosaurs are frugivorous anyways so uhhh

Herbivorous pterosaurs

Now, Baryonyx is already coming to the game during EA
And because theres no other baryonychine spinosaur that was with Baryonyx at the time (Except for Suchosaurus, though thats its own can of worms for a tooth taxon)

... Realistically Suchosaurus could just be a Bary alt

Regardless of Suchosaurus being dubious or seen that way

Wouldn't be the first time a dubious animal was added to the game, thats for sure

[left spear]

For a bary alt just do Sucho

If Juxia works sucho will too

[hollow furnace]

realistically bary will probably not have any alts

[toxic oriole]

Aww man

Well Suchomimus probably has some decent alt pote- Eocarcharia what are you doing here!?

Yes, I remember the EOCARCHARIA RECLASSIFICATIONS....

[left spear]

All the ones It could have are just unnecessary so yeah probably not

[toxic oriole]

Now that I think about it, most depictions of Eocarcharia are of its Carcharodontosaurid counterpart, right?

Would sorta be a bit strange having an animal like them be the alt to Suchomimus

[ancient ibex]

Bronto is in shakier ground than often understood tho; basically resurrecting Bronto involves messing up Apatosaurinae and then pretending it is fine, but, Osborn kept pretending he was right and here we are.

[ancient ibex]

It wouldn't happen, we learned newer stuff about Eocarcharia, the spinosaur is likely the same as Suchomimus

The Elrhaz carcharodontosaur would likely be more like Concavenator and Acrocanthosaurus anyway

[ancient ibex]

(I still gotta compile my own wishlist for at least the dinosaurian roster, but, coelurosaurs good)

[reef relic]

I've said it before I'll say it again, my wishlist is Einiosaurus, Saurolophus, Tenontosaurus. Shame those groups are already well filled-out ingame

[shell sonnet]

Only one that's really filled out is Einio. The others are different enough.

[feral cedar]

Einiosaurus is definitely redundant as the 4th centrosaur

[late swallow]

eh, it's an interesting Pachyrhinosaurin

[shell sonnet]

That's the thing, we have 3 already

[late swallow]

none with that shnoz tho

[feral cedar]

But Saurolophus as a second saurolophine and Tenontosaurus as a weird and rather unique ornithopod would be most welcome

[feral cedar]

Einiosaurus looks like a Styracosaurus with dysfunction LMAO

[shell sonnet]

Look if we need another centrosaur, Medusaceratops is right there

[feral cedar]

Or Lokiceratops, part of the same tribe

But if we get another centrosaur it shouldn’t be until after we even out the chasmosaur roster

[coarse inlet]

and have a Lepto

[feral cedar]

Chasmosaurus and Pentaceratops

pls

[shell sonnet]

Albertoceratops would work as well but regardless, they're all Albertaceratopsinis from the Oldman/Judith River area

[reef relic]

I do have my personal bias in favor of Einio but I have to agree we have a lot of Centrosaurines

Another chasmosaurine like Pentaceratops or Chasmosaurus itself would be better

[feral cedar]

Ngl Lokiceratops is cool but maybe adding it might be seen as a Frontier copy cat?

idk

[shell sonnet]

Frontier doesn't own the dinosaur

[feral cedar]

Of course not

[hollow furnace]

just go with another albertoceratopsin

[reef relic]

It's a dinosaur, Universal can't copyright them - they already tried and failed lol

[hollow furnace]

you get the exact same effect

[shell sonnet]

But PK also doesn't really do recent discoveries

[feral cedar]

I mean albertaceratopsins as a clade are a recent discovery so they might pass on that

we only really need penta and chasmo, with maybe a kosmo alt

[late swallow]

damn that's ugly

[shell sonnet]

Albertceratops was named in 2007, Medusa in 2010, that's not exactly recent

[feral cedar]

which one

[late swallow]

Kosmo

[feral cedar]

Yes but the Albertaceratopsini as a clade was only named with Lokiceratops, so it’s very possible Albertaceratops and Medusaceratops were never even close to being considered for PK at all, thus being very low priority

[late swallow]

Chasmosaurines do not interest me very much tbh

[shell sonnet]

I don't know where the original (as in when this was on a forum ) animal list is at the moment, so I can't prove or deny the latter

[hollow furnace]

Neither were being considered for the old PK roster

But neither was Nasutoceratops, which was named at a similar time

2013

[flint sable]

wait not even the hybrids

since wouldnt those be closer to like

OC's / fictional characters instead of actual animals

[hollow furnace]

they can probably copyright those

They cannot copyright actual animals

[flint sable]

makes sense

[shell sonnet]

You can; if you modify its DNA

(well patent technically)

[flint sable]

true

in that case all of the JP/JW dinosaurs in universe would probably be patented no

[coarse inlet]

yeah

[flint sable]

obviously IRL they arent but like in universe

well

actually

[hollow furnace]

most likely

[flint sable]

I dont know if they would be or not

[coarse inlet]

actually, how does it work to use stuff like Thanos and Meraxes

[flint sable]

I could be wrong but if you file a patent for something dont you need to like

disclose how its made

[coarse inlet]

the ICZN doesnt go by trademarks but could you use it in a game?

[late swallow]

to a point

[flint sable]

and thats technically why coca cola's recipie technically isnt patented/trademarked, because they would have to then list all of the exact precise ingredients

so technically any shmuck can make the exact coca cola recipie and sell it and coca cola can do legally nothing

as long as they arent calling the drink coca cola obviously

[shell sonnet]

It's not patented because they'd have to disclose they're using cocaine

[flint sable]

can confirm

[late swallow]

Coca leaf extract hasn't been in coke in decades

[shell sonnet]

That's what they want you to think

[flint sable]

thats what coca cola tells you

[hollow furnace]

which you can do, it's been leaked for decades

[flint sable]

exactly

[hollow furnace]

It just doesn't matter because, you know, it's Coca Cola

[flint sable]

wouldnt it technically be a similar situation with the dinosaur manufacturing process

[coarse inlet]

seriously though can Meraxes be in a game

[hollow furnace]

What the hell is anyone going to do that could possibly hurt them in terms of business

[hollow furnace]

Yes, probably

[flint sable]

they probably wouldnt trademark it because then they would have to essentially tell everyone exactly how to do it

[shell sonnet]

Depends on lawyer heavy J. R. Martin is

[coarse inlet]

depends on whether they still have the death squads active

[hollow furnace]

I also don't think Goerge Martin is going to sue indie walking sim for using the dinosaur named after the dragon in his book

[coarse inlet]

sure

[flint sable]

I know who would though

[coarse inlet]

I'm just curious whether there would be a case

[shell sonnet]

Archie Comics

[flint sable]

Nintendo

[coarse inlet]

like, if someone uses Thanos for some reason

[flint sable]

Crash bandicoot

[coarse inlet]

Disney's gonna go after them right?

[hollow furnace]

It would probably be an unsettled matter

[shell sonnet]

Nah... Archie's are actually worse

[coarse inlet]

that's not Nintendo

[hollow furnace]

Like, you'd probably need to have a court case and a ruling by a judge to actually set what the precedent would be

[flint sable]

ah mb

I misremembered

they are owned by Activision

[hollow furnace]

All video game is nintendoes

Video game is when pikachu by nintendo

[shell sonnet]

And all that is not is Nintendont's

[flint sable]

wait nevermind

instead of Crash bandicoot

Bulbasaurus

[coarse inlet]

Bulbasaurus has plausible denyability

[shell sonnet]

You do know aerodactyl exists

[coarse inlet]

Aerodactylus too

[flint sable]

perfect

[coarse inlet]

they're still made with greek and latin

[shell sonnet]

I also don't think it matters

[flint sable]

I propose adding Bulbasaurus and Aerodactylus to Prehistoric Kingdom, then nintendo sue PK, and then PK winning because its the scientific name of an actual animal and winning 10 billion dollar to then add every animal ever, simple as that

what could possibly go wrong amirite?

/j

[shell sonnet]

.....

....

....

[coarse inlet]

and at least for Bulbasaurus they very carefully avoided saying it was about the Pokemon in the paper

anyway my takeaway is that no animal is allowed to develop limbs without SEGA's permission

[flint sable]

fine ill do it myself, ill go find a fossil hedgehog and name it sonic and deliberately state it was named after the fictional character

[coarse inlet]

still not Nintendo

[flint sable]

ik but the point would still work

[coarse inlet]

and as I said

[shell sonnet]

SEGA doesn't really care about that stuff (because deep down, they know everyone else has done a better job with Sonic than they have)

[coarse inlet]

Sonic is the only reason we have limbs

[coarse inlet]

I mean IDW is doing good shit

[flint sable]

true

[shell sonnet]

I don't touch the comics... too much weird behind the scenes shit

[flint sable]

sonic is life

[coarse inlet]

eh?

aside from a few weird mandates I havent heard anything

[reef relic]

Nah Nintendo could find some small arbitrary way to sue PK and they'd win cause they have le big monie
After all, I know I just joked about it but believe it or not Universal actually got frighteningly close to copyrighting the use of dinosaurs like Trex in mainstream media

A company with le big monie could get away with a lot of crap

[coarse inlet]

what

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-guardians-of-the-galaxy2-peter-quill-star-lord-star-lord-what-gif-24549462

[shell sonnet]

I'm confusing it with the Archie one, but Ian Flynn is still involved

[coarse inlet]

Flynn seems chill from everything I've heard

[flint sable]

imagine if we lived in a twisted reality where garfield was the only form of media that could legally use cats in mainstream media

[coarse inlet]

he was just the guy who got brought in to try to salvage anything wasnt he?

[reef relic]

Oh yeah when Jurassic World first came out, Universal followed it up by trying to copyright the useage of certain dinosaurs like Apatosaurus, Tyrannosaurus, Velociraptor, etc.

[flint sable]

that would be pretty

not cool

[coarse inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/star-lord-shoot-gotg-star-lord-gotg-star-lord-shoot-dad-gif-15903239986108045683

[quick ore]

I'm fairly certain that scientific names are public domain by default

[reef relic]

Me getting sentenced to death by electric chair because I own a cat (Garfield owns the cat patent)

[reef relic]

That's why they weren't able to copyright it, but they fought really hard to do so.

[shell sonnet]

I'm confusing him with Ken Penders; I haven't looked at the comics in decades

So I forget names and the like

(I'm old)

[coarse inlet]

ah

yeah Penders is a

thing

[late swallow]

Sonic hedgehog is the name of a gene

[flint sable]

imagine epic movie featuring Han solo, Crash bandicoot, Shrekin, and Xenomorphia

[flint sable]

indeed

apparently its also a pretty important one

[coarse inlet]

literally one of the most important genes

it's crazy

well

not a gene, a signaling protein

[late swallow]

The Gene codes a protein by the same name

But anyway

[hollow furnace]

~~sonic hedgehog is the name of the gene, Sonic hedgehog is the name of protein ~~

[shell sonnet]

In any case, we're getting off topic. We should stop talking about video games and more about animals that should be in PK. Like Yoshi.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10914-014-9266-5