Community Species Suggestions

[steep tulip]

Nobody uses seismosaurus anymore tbh

[faint oak]

Eustrepto goes hard

[steep tulip]

Fax

[shell sonnet]

and Barosaurus lentus

[open heron]

little dinky thing (it's still 12 meters long)

[shell sonnet]

doesn't work as alt to much though

[steep tulip]

Carno might get some cool neighbours soon

[shell sonnet]

and Amargasaurus fills in the Dicra slot

[glass snow]

yeah It would have 2 but Kaatedocus would be awesome.

[glass snow]

baro I’m not sure could be an alt same with super they are proportionally different I think

Like maybe?

[toxic oriole]

I remember seeing some old video that said Barosaurus was the largest dinosaur of all time

I forgot what it was though

[left spear]

I'm sorry but both baro and seismo might be the most random and unneeded additions i've heard in a while

[steep tulip]

Baro is cool

[shell sonnet]

They're alts, not the main ones

[open heron]

Some studies place it sister to Baro.

[steep tulip]

Its fairly complete and we know diplo had spikes thanks to it

[shell sonnet]

newer studies don't

[toxic oriole]

Now all thats needed is T. mcraeensis for the NON-ALT Tyrannosaurus stuff

...

maybe

Eh, might be too late for that

[glass snow]

I just want D. hallorum and D. carnegii An extra alt I would enjoy but that would be a bonus

[austere sparrow]

Baro has that one epic-ass skeletal recon in a museum of it towering over Allosaurus while defending a Kaatedocus and that's hella cool

Not much of a reason to add it technically but like

I do hope if they don't they at least add Diplo/baby Diplo statues in that pose

[glass snow]

Like I like super and baro as well as kaate.

[toxic oriole]

Saurophaganax (A. anax) specimens would be cowering towards Barosaurus or any other of those guys

[steep tulip]

Adding dinosaurs by aura scaling

[open heron]

Wait, does anyone here know if Tornieria has alt potential?

[late swallow]

I'm waiting to hear the dreaded sauropod name again and see this place turn into Holyfield vs Tyson II

[glass snow]

it is frag

[toxic oriole]

Hehehehhehehehe

HHEhehhehehe

Bruh.

[glass snow]

I think

[austere sparrow]

Tornieria is frag but it would be a based as heck alt ngl

Preemptive Kentro friend

[slim flare]

All right here’s my first draft

Ankylosaurus
Tarchia?
Pinacosaurus
Edmontonia
Gastonia or Polacanthus or Sauropelta
Gargoyleosaurus
Kunbarrasaurus
Stegosaurus
Miragaia or Dacentrurus
Kentrosaurus
Tuojiangosaurus?
Huayangosaurus
Scelidosaurus

[glass snow]

wait it has a head so not that bad

[late swallow]

I can get behind that

[glass snow]

for a sauropod

as good as brachi and better than argent

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-angry-break-gif-19098093

[steep tulip]

I want scutello as terrarium but it's pretty good

[toxic oriole]

Hehheh

[steep tulip]

Wouldn't complain def lol

[toxic oriole]

Maraapunisaurus...............................

[toxic oriole]

Bruhathkayosaurus..........................

Pootis.....

[shell sonnet]

no Struthiosaurus, no Gigantospino, Sauropelta should be on its own line,

[late swallow]

Hold the fuck up

[austere sparrow]

Bruhahasaurus

[silver steeple]

Equus quagga is also extant lol

[late swallow]

is that felix?

[steep tulip]

Also possibly la colonia parankylosaur depending how cool it is

[toxic oriole]

Aight

thefuck
💁‍♀️

I'm holding the fuck up

[austere sparrow]

No, you goofus, that's Tornieria

[shell sonnet]

No this is Patrick

[ancient ibex]

Thyreophorans are underrepresented as a whole

[silver steeple]

Damn that Dun pattern would go hard ngl

[slim flare]

Gigant is fragmentary af and only notable for its big spike

[shell sonnet]

"fragmentary"

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/party-pooper-dragon-ball-z-abridged-tfs-super-kami-guru-gif-6916187771599882595

[plush nacelle]

With how hard ankylosaurians are to make I will settle with stegouros and maybe gastonia for now

[steep tulip]

Yeah

Gigantspino is just kinda poorly studied but we have enough material def

[austere sparrow]

Daily reminder to double check when someone here calls something frag 😔

[shell sonnet]

Also Gigantspino adds a thyreophora to the upper Shaximiao

alongside Tuojiango

[late swallow]

Shaximiao is currently only Psittacosaurus sp., right?

[steep tulip]

Nope

[austere sparrow]

Give Morrison two it's well-deserved due 😤

[steep tulip]

That's yixian

Shaximiao has nothing so far, its like late jurassic

[late swallow]

OH ITS FUCKIN CHARON

[shell sonnet]

that's where Mamechi, Yang, Tuijango and Shuno come from

[austere sparrow]

Yeah we have nothing from Shaximiao so far actually somehow

[slim flare]

Damn not as bad as I remember

[late swallow]

Mamenchisaurus is a hard must

[outer moth]

Wuehro for PK
I'm still standing on the "Wuehro will be the Stego alt" hill

[shell sonnet]

I'll push you off

[austere sparrow]

It'll be either Wuerho, Hespero, or second Stego

[shell sonnet]

Rather have the second Steg for Portgual

[austere sparrow]

I think I can live with either but I would really like to know

The second Steg is from Portugal?

[late swallow]

Yeh, torvo and allo need company

[plush nacelle]

Wuerho can have one more accurate skin and second classic depiction

[late swallow]

Lourinhã is approximately equal to Morrison

[ancient ibex]

Never a separate species tho

[steep tulip]

Gonna eat wuerho for dinner

[austere sparrow]

You want Wuerho as a non-alt?

[shell sonnet]

there's talk that Stegosaurus ungulatus might be found in Lourinha in addition to Morrison

[austere sparrow]

Neat

[slim flare]

Damn is Struthio really this fucked up looking?

[toxic oriole]

Hateg Island huh?

[late swallow]

When you make it naked, yeab

[slim flare]

No I mean the spikes

[steep tulip]

Looks kinda weird here

[hollow flower]

What even is fairly complete from hatzeg?

[austere sparrow]

Nodosaur trying to be a Stegosaur 💯

[late swallow]

Nothing

[steep tulip]

Spike wise its wrong

Here they look like plates

[shell sonnet]

Zalmoxes

[hollow flower]

Oh wow thats fucked up

[toxic oriole]

So everything that was on Hateg Island is fragmentary as hell?

[steep tulip]

Pretty sure it wasn't like this

[outer moth]

Just have it be the accurate skin
Works just as good

[austere sparrow]

I believe this might just be the most complete Hateg animal actually - oh Zalmoxes forgot about that one

[toxic oriole]

Huh

Didnt even know about Zalmoxes

[plush nacelle]

Shame it is going to be probably stegosaurus from morisson 2

[austere sparrow]

Don't think we actually know what the accurate version looks like tho

[shell sonnet]

Telmatosaurus could work as well

[ancient ibex]

The hadrosauriforms to a degree?

Ah yeah

[silver steeple]

Tethyshadros better

[austere sparrow]

Tethyshadros sweep

[ancient ibex]

Not from that time

[silver steeple]

Add tethyshadros and give him a mafioso skin to call back to his Italian heritage

[ancient ibex]

Or place

[steep tulip]

Goated

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[austere sparrow]

Rhabdodon :O

[slim flare]

How unique is Sauropelta?

Compared to Gastonia and Polacanthus

[austere sparrow]

Unique enough it probably wouldn't work as an alt for one

[ancient ibex]

Long spikes

[outer moth]

There are some good depictions, but I like this one in particular

[ancient ibex]

Polacanths work nicely for the whole EK Europe AND America 2 for 1 deal

[austere sparrow]

Yeah but is this like. A thing we know, or guesswork

[steep tulip]

Guesswork

[slim flare]

I guess they’re only vaguely similar

[steep tulip]

Probably wouldn't have been extremely different from stego tho

[outer moth]

To a degree, it's guesswork, but the artist is pretty good, so I like to think the plates actually looked like this

[shell sonnet]

I mean any animal could be made to look good with quality art work

[silver steeple]

^

[shell sonnet]

Wureho doesn't add much; the Tacos we have currently don't come from the same formation. The only noteworthy thing that does is Dsunpe, which we might not get.

[slim flare]

Amended

Ankylosaurus
Tarchia?
Pinacosaurus
Edmontonia
Struthiosaurus
Gastonia or Polacanthus
Sauropelta?
Gargoyleosaurus
Kunbarrasaurus
Stegosaurus
Miragaia or Dacentrurus
Kentrosaurus
Tuojiangosaurus?
Gigantspinosaurus?
Huayangosaurus
Scelidosaurus

[shell sonnet]

I wonder if Scutellosaurus would work as any alt for Scelido; it would add something to Kayenta

[steep tulip]

Goaty
Hopefully it gets described soon

[steep tulip]

100% no

Works as terrarium tho

[slim flare]

Scutellosaurus is interesting tbh

[silver steeple]

Yeah Scutello is just barely larger than compy

[steep tulip]

Me beloved

[ancient ibex]

Lesotho is at times the basalmost thyreophoran

[shell sonnet]

the Elliot formation is underrated; Massospondylus and Heterodontosaurus would be cool additions

[ancient ibex]

Massospondylids could work well via alts ngl

[silver steeple]

Hetero would have to be a mini unfortunately

[ancient ibex]

Massos, Sarah and Glaciali

[silver steeple]

That would be neat ngl

Especially if Cryo makes it

[ancient ibex]

Yup

[silver steeple]

Then Cryo and Dilo wouldn't be alone lol

[slim flare]

Scutellosaurus is just a juvenile Scelidosaurus

[silver steeple]

Eh no

[slim flare]

He yes

[silver steeple]

For one thing, scutello is biped

[slim flare]

Because no dinosaur changes gait upon maturation

[silver steeple]

Wait are you talking game or irl

[slim flare]

Irl

It was a joke

[silver steeple]

They live over hundreds of miles away

[slim flare]

Eh

Kayenta has cf. Scelidosaurus

[silver steeple]

And there's cf. titanosaurus indicus from Hatzeg

[slim flare]

Based???

[silver steeple]

You can throw cf on something, doesn't make it that thing

[ancient ibex]

Ttbt, nooot quite

[silver steeple]

And afaik the cf scelido remains in kayenta are just osteoderms

[ancient ibex]

No Atlantic, and we have overlap in Utah and Portugal fauna from some 40 my later

[slim flare]

They are

[silver steeple]

Which from what I understand aren't super diagnostic on more than a like family level

[slim flare]

Probably

But it does show a larger armoured species was present

[silver steeple]

Sure

That doesn't mean the smaller armored animals are part of the larger species tho

[slim flare]

Correct

[shell sonnet]

replace Glaciali with Lufengosaurus

[silver steeple]

No

[shell sonnet]

Yes

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-down-not-happy-serious-disagree-disapprove-gif-16881698

[shell sonnet]

Even as an alt; this just sucks eggs

[silver steeple]

Give cryo a friend

Or rather a food

[shell sonnet]

Besides Lufgeno comes from a better formation

Yunnanosaurus and Sinosaurus

[silver steeple]

Sinosaurus is not getting in lmao

Discount dilo

[shell sonnet]

it works as an alt

[silver steeple]

Literally "Made in China" version of dilo

[shell sonnet]

Now that's just racist

[silver steeple]

???

[outer moth]

It adds narrative
Since it's still a Cretaceous stegosaur, and psittaco compatible or not, Nigel could still have some really good quotes about it

[flint sable]

???

[slim flare]

Any closing thoughts on this? Additions, subtractions of the questionable?

Thyreophora x17
Ankylosaurus
Tarchia?
Pinacosaurus
Edmontonia
Struthiosaurus
Gastonia or Polacanthus
Sauropelta?
Gargoyleosaurus?
Kunbarrasaurus
Stegosaurus
Miragaia or Dacentrurus
Kentrosaurus
Tuojiangosaurus?
Gigantspinosaurus?
Huayangosaurus
Scelidosaurus
Scutellosaurus

[outer crater]

Add edmontonia, ignore the haters

[shell sonnet]

you don't see any an issue with equating "made in china" means inferiority

[slim flare]

It’s on there

[flint sable]

good except for maybe Jakapil

[silver steeple]

IF they do alts of stuff that's already done sure

[outer crater]

I wasn't replying to anyone, I just came to this channel and sent a message

[flint sable]

but probably should wait untill we figure out what it actually is for sure

other than just thyreophoran

[shell sonnet]

Jakapil is a mess

[silver steeple]

But there's no indication that's the case

[slim flare]

Fragmentary and also immature, kinda a poor combination

[flint sable]

yeah

if Jakapil actually turns out to be something cool

[shell sonnet]

Stegorous would work though

[outer moth]

But most arguements for Wuehro still can't change my opinion

[flint sable]

like a distinct lineage of thyreophorans that survived that late

[silver steeple]

No because that's a common sentiment on items manufactured in China???

[flint sable]

I think it would be a really good pick

[silver steeple]

Has nothing to do with the people or culture lmao

[shell sonnet]

because racism

[silver steeple]

No???

Its because of capitalism if anything

[slim flare]

Stegouros is basically Kunbarrasaurus

[shell sonnet]

the tail is different

[slim flare]

Most paleopilled thing you could say

[slim flare]

Chinese isn’t a race, it’s a nationality

And the nation of China sucks so 🤷‍♀️

[late swallow]

Did you actually just say that brainless shit

[outer moth]

It's a stego with a good rep in paleomedia for the most part
And it's more unique of a concept than a second morrison stegosaur (Which could easily be recreated as a baby alt)

[slim flare]

Mhm, damn right I did

[silver steeple]

I mean race is made up to begin with so

[shell sonnet]

And yet it has real world implications

[silver steeple]

Only because we let it

[slim flare]

Idk why people treat the different countries of Asia as distinct races but Europe is just “white”

[austere sparrow]

Chinese nationals are definitely treated as a distinct racial class lmfao

[outer moth]

If we ever get a second Morrison stegosaur, it better be Alcova instead since it's slightly more unique

[late swallow]

You're both missing the entire point of prejudice and racism

[silver steeple]

The point is oppression

[austere sparrow]

Come to Europe and they won't- Hell, crack open a history book and you see that that's not the case historically

[outer crater]

You're wrong lil bro. We do that to Jewish people

[slim flare]

Honestly when people say “Chinese products are shit,” it’s not because Asian people made it, it’s because the shitty country of China made it.

[silver steeple]

^

[outer moth]

I don't mean to minimod, but I'm pretty sure this isn't what this chat is supposed to be about

[late swallow]

Ah, so you fell for the western propaganda

[slim flare]

True

[lean hound]

I feel like 70% of the conversations in this channel are off topic or should be in science chat lol

[austere sparrow]

"Animal that lives in China" is not a chinese product, and the country of China isn't the entity slaving away in factories 😭

[slim flare]

Comeback to the Thyreophoran chat

[outer crater]

Chinese is like Mexican. It doesn't actually mean race, but racists always say "Chinese" and use it to mean race

[silver steeple]

The manufacturing practices of the companies who move their manufacturing to China, do so because it is easier to produce lower quality products

[silver steeple]

No one said they were

[outer moth]

I just wanna talk about cretaceous stegosaurs

[austere sparrow]

This you

[slim flare]

All Cretaceous stegosaurs are shitty and fragmentary, only fit for an alt of something better

[silver steeple]

You're reading shit that ain't there dog

Idk what to tell you

[outer crater]

He means China invented fossils

[austere sparrow]

[slim flare]

Well duh

[austere sparrow]

Check your racism, boi

[silver steeple]

I did

There is none

[late swallow]

<@&181496074169614336>

[silver steeple]

There it is

[slim flare]

Thyreophorans

[silver steeple]

I was gonna say we can have AD look it over but that works too

[slim flare]

PK’s endangered clade

[outer moth]

Hence my argument for Wuehro
LITERALLY my point
It would work better as an alt narratively

[slim flare]

Yeah alt or bust

[late swallow]

Don't be racist and it wouldn't happen?

[silver steeple]

I wasn't racist

[slim flare]

Can we please end it

We already called for mum

[outer moth]

Since alt genera get different Nigel voicelines, this otherwise semi-obscure Stegosaur would still get recognition

[outer crater]

He's not racist, he just likes fast cars 🏎️

[outer moth]

Chinese jurassic stegosaurs are rlly cool as well, but I'd honestly have em as a DLC species down the line (except possibly Huyangosaurus or Tuojiangosaurus since those are the most iconic of the bunch)

[slim flare]

Is Tuojiang really that cool?

[ancient ibex]

Yep

[outer moth]

Erior, do you agree that Wuerho should be the secret Stegosaur alt instead of Hespero?

Need your thoughts on this

[median flint]

Context?

[slim flare]

Yeah that is a nice skeleton tbh, and morphologically intermediate between Kentrosaurus and Stegosaurus

[outer moth]

Hell, that's pretty complete to me

Especially since Stegosaurs are hella scrappy

[late swallow]

The literal racism

[outer crater]

Yeah but it's just spiky and that's it

[median flint]

As in, @silver steeple referencing things "made in China"?

[silver steeple]

@median flint they believe this was a racist remark

[outer moth]

Just furthers my arguement for Chinese stegosaurs
They're hella cool and they provide an insight on stegosaur history

[median flint]

Because that's not racism, that's just an observation about the reputation of stuff made in China, which very frequently is lower quality, and as they themselves clarified, is because of the companies that are having stuff manufactured there wanting lower-quality goods

[slim flare]

Damn, Huayangosaurus, Gigantspinosaurus and Tuojiangosaurus are in the same formation, although Huayango is from the lower and other two upper.

[late swallow]

That is racially based, especially when referring to something as low quality

[outer moth]

(I know I'm kinda in the way, but I do like stegosaurs)

[outer crater]

China made the fossils!!!

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-gif-26231311

[late swallow]

Can't forget "shitty country of china"

[silver steeple]

Not once did I say anything of that nature

[median flint]

It is not. China put the label on their goods to make sure everyone was aware they made everything. The quality of pretty much everything produced there over a span of twenty years was terrible, because people moved manufacturing there to produce as cheaply as possible, meaning low quality

[slim flare]

I said that

[median flint]

It's got nothing to do with race

[silver steeple]

Thank you

[median flint]

Yeah so

[outer moth]

Not to mention the same formation as Yang, Mamench, Shuno, and many other Shaximiao goodies

[late swallow]

wow

[median flint]

@slim flare, terrible remark, don't do that

You've got a timeout accordingly

[fresh lotus]

Yeah I'm not seeing the connection between a countries track record of lower quality goods and its people in this context

[median flint]

But Boigotbooped's reference to "Made in China" does not relate to racism

[outer moth]

I love Shaximiao
It's like a second Morrison

[median flint]

That just relates to the Chinese government's decision to tie the country's identity to low-quality manufacturing my mandating manufacturers to put the "made in china" tag on things

[outer moth]

Sorry for interrupting now, Vic, you have the stage

[outer crater]

I'd say a long extinct animal and its remains have nothing to do with a country or government.

It's like saying a dinosaur from India is a scammer

[fresh lotus]

Which would be racist because that assumes everyone in India is a scammer

[silver steeple]

Again its a comparison

[median flint]

I think it's not unfair to make a relation between a "low quality version of thing X" and a "made in china version of thing X"

Because that's literally what the "Made in China" tag has come to represent

[outer moth]

Still sad that Bruhathkayo is gone tho

[median flint]

And that's not because the Chinese can't manufacture high quality goods

It's because they used to be the place where people went to manufacture goods as cheaply as possible

[outer crater]

Well that wouldn't even be racial, since it's about a country not a race

India

[median flint]

That's absolutely still racism

Arguing countries don't represent race is a discussion of semantics

At that point it boils down to the earlier remark of "race is a social construct"

[last scaffold]

yes it would be lmao

[median flint]

Gatekeeping the definition of ethnicity is not helpful to the discussion

[ancient ibex]

Plus if you extrapolate the thagomizer from Chunkingosaurus, which was found in the same place and with the same plate shape, you get something eyecatching

[ancient ibex]

It is weird; as the Portuguese Stego remains have never been classified as a separate species, so I'm unsure ttbt

[late swallow]

Why The 'Made In China' Stigma Persists — And How Perceptions Are Changing https://share.google/fvl30miScXJfqPnOJ

So are we just going to ignore that China's manufacturing has drastically improved?

[outer moth]

Honestly, PK doing the mystery Portuguese stegosaur would be like Mesozoica doing Dakotaraptor

[silver steeple]

Yes because it still has a reputation for poor quality

Reputation doesn't just go away in the snap of a finger

[ancient ibex]

And I honestly wouldn't be surprised at even more Lourinha sinkings

[outer moth]

Plus, if we get a Portuguese Stego, why not have it just be a Dacentrurine

That’s a safer bet

[ancient ibex]

Stego would be in Lourinha anyway tho

[outer moth]

Plus, the alts could stretch to the Morrison, so it’d cover that spot as well

[outer moth]

Wait, do the animals have multiple formations?
I forgot if they do

[silver steeple]

Some do yeah

Not a ton tho

[slim flare]

Do we really need Huayangosaurus and Gigantspinosaurus considering they’re both morphologically rather similar, come from the same place and time, and represent the same stage in Stegosaur evolution? Besides as alts

[steep tulip]

Its either one or the other for me

[outer moth]

Gotcha
Well, formationwise, Dacaentrurus/Alcova/Miragia would still be a good combo, especially since we don’t have that many described Dacentrurines

[steep tulip]

La colonia parankylosaur will take jakapil place trust (I have no idea what it looks like)

[silver steeple]

Probably just larger Stegorous

[outer moth]

Hey, if that 22-foot ankylosaur is anything to go off of, it’d be cool to see that get described

[steep tulip]

True lol
But could work as an alt if they do add stegorous
Just to not leave carno alone

[slim flare]

What of Gastonia, Polacanthus, Sauropelta and Gargoyleosaurus?

[steep tulip]

Idk

[slim flare]

Polacanthus obviously has WWD cred, but it’s pretty fragmentary and unremarkable. Gastonia is rather similar but more complete, no?

[silver steeple]

Assuming Stegouros isn't stuck in a mini

[slim flare]

Wait it’s that small??

[hollow furnace]

Stegouros + Antarctopelta alt

[hollow furnace]

It could probably go either way

[chrome wigeon]

Wait, I don't see difference between the one about China and the one about India? The same could be said for the India example. "It's not that Indians are scammers, it's because India is the place where large scale scam operations are most common in." It seems like both should be racist or neither should be

[silver steeple]

It teeters on the edge

[slim flare]

Oh crap

[outer moth]

Stego puppy
I love Stegouros

[slim flare]

I thought it was Kunba sized

[silver steeple]

No lol

[hollow furnace]

It would be volume-wise the smallest full exhibit, but that’s because it’s so compact

[shell sonnet]

not from the same time; Huyango is middle jurassic

[steep tulip]

Pretty much

[silver steeple]

Kunbarra and Antarcto are both much much larger

[slim flare]

Sorry, confused with Tuo

Still

[silver steeple]

Kunbarra

[slim flare]

Australia or South American representation…

[hollow furnace]

South America, I hate Australia

[silver steeple]

Lmao

Aussie rep is weird in that regard

Kunbarra is what people think of technically

But Minmi is the name

Its like giraffa and brachi

[shell sonnet]

or Ovi and Citapi

[silver steeple]

Ye

[shell sonnet]

or Sten and Troodon

or Deinonychus and v-raptor

given that PK has always gone for name over actual; that means they'll go with Minmi and Troodon

[ancient ibex]

Velo is a significant animal on its own

[steep tulip]

Ehh idk

[slim flare]

Minmi is really fragmentary

[silver steeple]

Here's Antarctopelta as well for ref

[slim flare]

Troodon needs that petition approved

[steep tulip]

Minmi ain't that household of a name

[silver steeple]

Giraffatitan and Citipati:

[steep tulip]

Neither is urgru but it's different imo

[shell sonnet]

neither is Ovi

[late swallow]

Lmao what

[slim flare]

Oviraptor is like a B tier dinosaur

Minmi is like C or D

Probably D nowadays

[median flint]

If you were to make a reference to indian scams I wouldn't have issues with it. We can't really get mad about people mentioning something that is a frequent occurrence

[steep tulip]

Ovi is way better known, both as an animal and as a name
Since minmi is just kunburra
Just use kunbarra

[median flint]

If you were to say something about all indians being scammers I would

[ancient ibex]

Nah, it needs to fuck off

[slim flare]

At least Brachiosaurus and Oviraptor actually have nice remains, unlike Minmi

[chrome wigeon]

Oh yeah I guess the other mods were the ones to say it would be racist

[slim flare]

I mean it needs the petition approved before it could be added

[ancient ibex]

60 years as a pachycephalosaur is quite damning for its supposed "importance in the literature"

[slim flare]

I’m fine if it stays dubious

[shell sonnet]

Nah, S-tier is rex and trike
A is Allo and Dippy
B is Para and Bary
C is were Ovi would be at best

[slim flare]

Para being that low is insane

Also I don’t use S

[median flint]

They weren't saying that either. They were saying that calling something a scammer just because it was from India would be racism 😄

[steep tulip]

I'm still confused with brachio
Because it seems it has a lot of assigned material to it, but its all coming from different places

[ancient ibex]

Ttbt, I'm sorta okay with Troodon making it, due to Ugru and Sauro, but please Saurornithoides alt

[shell sonnet]

Para's look is well-known but the name isn't; I doubt most people would remember it

heck, I don't think the name is said once in any of the JP films

[buoyant vault]

honestly im so confused about sauro

[slim flare]

Friar Tuck

[late swallow]

good, that's the point lmao

[buoyant vault]

is it still gonna be an allosaurid or is it gonna be something entirely different now?

[shell sonnet]

that's Pachy's

see even you can't remember it

[late swallow]

ingame? its just allo with a different name

[buoyant vault]

ohhh

I see.

[flint sable]

when your in a confusing dinosaur taxonomy competition and your against north american troodontids

[ancient ibex]

Goddammit Currie

[late swallow]

if Troodon is dubious, then it should not bear type to the Family

[buoyant vault]

they could go the route of making it a. anax or they could just. still call it saurophaganax

[steep tulip]

Calling it sauro its best

Imo

[shell sonnet]

nah

[late swallow]

afaik we're getting saurophaganax (lame)

[ancient ibex]

That's what Saurornithoidiidae did for decades

[buoyant vault]

[steep tulip]

Allo anax is an ugly name and idk if it will necessarily hold up or not

[ancient ibex]

Saurophaganax is a mouthful

[shell sonnet]

i mean if it doesn't hold, that would be proof not to have the animal in general😉

[ancient ibex]

Saurophagus was already crap

[buoyant vault]

i want pk to add a chimeric taxon and make it some horrid abomination

[slim flare]

Saurophaganax is dubious. Its holotype is an unidentifiable Saurischian, probably a sauropod of a known taxon.

The real large Allosaurid remains from Morrison are now under Allosaurus anax, for now. Its possible that’s better a synonym of an existing Allosaurus.

[ancient ibex]

Giant Allosaurid is known to be a thing

[shell sonnet]

All dinos should alternative skin where they just exist as the bones we have

[buoyant vault]

[steep tulip]

I mean you can just treat it as big allo
Its just a reference

[slim flare]

PK probably already recorded Saurophaganax lines and/or rule of cool it’ll stay in, imo unfortunately.

[open heron]

The only scenario where I would want Nanuq tbh, would be very educational. /j

[ancient ibex]

The type bone for it is a postorbital that is distinguishable from other Allosaurus, but a better specimen would be preferable

[shell sonnet]

I mean Torvo didn't get Edmarka Rex

[steep tulip]

Is that even a thing

[shell sonnet]

no

[ancient ibex]

That one is even worse because Bakker tall tales

[shell sonnet]

but hey, big Torvo

[slim flare]

Yeah but it’s possible people will find that postorbital automorphy to be within variation of other Allosaurus species.

[ancient ibex]

That can apply to any diagnosic character of any species tho

[steep tulip]

Sauro was always decently popular despite its nature
I don't blame the devs for adding it, and as I said, it's just big edgy allo

[slim flare]

Yes but A. anax’s specimen being so little means there’s a larger chance it’ll happen

[ancient ibex]

Gotta look at the throughly conflicting analysis on europaeus from the last months

[flint sable]

I mean

look at Ceratops

[shell sonnet]

I disagree, it was popular with JFC fans and people obsessed with Megatherapods

[slim flare]

Ceratops
Titanosaurs

Brontotheres

[buoyant vault]

my three most-wanted species are theri, carno and cerato but chances are they’ll probably be added eventually (either in early access or post-release)

[steep tulip]

Disagree with devs adding it?

[slim flare]

Good trio

[steep tulip]

Same league as feathered pachy

[shell sonnet]

I wouldn't have; I don't think Allo is special enough to deserve 4 alts

[ancient ibex]

Nope

[ancient ibex]

Lol

Lmao

[slim flare]

Bro Allosaurus is one if the most popular theropods

[steep tulip]

What's nope

[toxic oriole]

The nope specimen

Of course!

[slim flare]

Normies have a chance of knowing it’s name

[steep tulip]

Ingame sauro is just big edgy allo

[flint sable]

the europe: 🇪🇺
the jim: 🇯 🇮 Ⓜ️
the fragile: ⛓️‍💥
the lord lizard eater: 👑 🦎 🍖

[slim flare]

The only theropods a normie has any chance of knowing is Tyrannosaurus, Velociraptor, Spinosaurus and Allosaurus

[steep tulip]

Well concept art

[toxic oriole]

Hey listen I had an idea

What if the species we suggest... Someone made concept art for them!!!

[steep tulip]

💸 ❌

[buoyant vault]

id also love kunpengopterus and thalassodromeus (it probably hunted on the ground a lot and was smaller than the more well-known big fat pterosaurs that hunted on land (azhdarchids) so itd be really cool) but we probably arent getting larger pterosaurs for a while in the case of the latter. having kunpengo scurrying around in a mini-aviary would be cool tho

[shell sonnet]

Giga

[outer crater]

Allegedly the Europe is fake

[toxic oriole]

"ITS JUST CARCHARODONTOSAURUS!!!! STOP LIKING THINGS THAT ARE TOO SIMILAR TO ONE ANOTHER!!!!!"
I don't get it

[slim flare]

From the people I talked to, it never came up

[open heron]

fake? It may be a synonym but the fossils certainly weren't forged.

[flint sable]

~~the fragile europe: 🇫🇷 ~~

[steep tulip]

Tbh I could draw it myself
But I would have to study dino anatomy

[flint sable]

joke

[toxic oriole]

Try starting with something easier instead of a dinosaur

Then maybe work your way up to it, I guess

[flint sable]

dinosaurs are surprisingly difficult to draw accurately for me anyway

[steep tulip]

Well I draw cenozoic stuff usually and pterosaurs and plesiosaurs

[buoyant vault]

can we get archaeoraptor

[flint sable]

including birds

[shell sonnet]

I'm just basing this off the internet; if this was a decade ago, I'd agreed

[hollow furnace]

Europe as a whole is fake

[toxic oriole]

NOOOOO

[hollow furnace]

Imaginary landmass

[flint sable]

correct

[toxic oriole]

I think I know what happened

[flint sable]

its actually just the European Peninsula of Asia

[shell sonnet]

West Asia

[toxic oriole]

Someone renamed the landmass to Gaster, and it entirely disappeared

[late swallow]

there are only 4 continents

[toxic oriole]

DAMMIT!!!

[hollow furnace]

We’ve always been at war with Eastasia

[toxic oriole]

Me when I name my animal to Gaster and all of a sudden it disappears:
😱

[shell sonnet]

Left World, Right World, Antarctica, and the Moon

[slim flare]

Oh lore he thick

[buoyant vault]

IF WE START NAMING FOSSILS GASTER WOULD TRUE DE-EXTINCTION BE POSSIBLE

or would they vanish

[toxic oriole]

No, they'd end up as lost as some of those destroyed fossils

[buoyant vault]

FUCKKKKK

[hollow furnace]

Who dat

[slim flare]

Tarchia

[late swallow]

close! America, Afroeurasia, Australia, Antarctica

[buoyant vault]

oh my god i NEED tarchia

[shell sonnet]

Australia is not a continent, it's just a large island like Greenland

[hollow furnace]

Damn, boring looking Asian ankylosaur

0/10 not enough spikes

[flint sable]

give it 20 million years or so and it could feasibly be All of The world and Antarctica

straight up

if you had lie

like

Beringia connected

and australia moves far north enough with plate tectonics

[steep tulip]

Pinaco is a spiky table with legs

[slim flare]

How similar is Pinacosaurus and Tarchia?

[shell sonnet]

I'd make them alts, but I'm not an expert

[steep tulip]

Same

[slim flare]

I know tail club is distinct

[silver steeple]

So is Anodontosaurus or whatever

Big ol' axehead

[slim flare]

I actually find it hard to find a Pinacosaurus skeletal

[toxic oriole]

That club looks like it could be good for stuff

[slim flare]

Afaik Tarchia and Pinacosaurus have roughly similar armour configuration and are unflatteringly wide, mainly distinct by skull, club size and obviously habitat.

And size a bit

[silver steeple]

I think Pinaco is wider, but not by a ton

[buoyant vault]

oh my god irritator could be cool too just because of the weird jaws

[buoyant vault]

I NEED ANO

[slim flare]

MPC-D 100-1305, possible Pinacosaurus

[slim flare]

A species of Tarchia (afaik the genus and it’s relatives are poorly split)

[silver steeple]

That one is too wide

[ancient ibex]

Spinosauridae wide thing

[slim flare]

Point really is, should there be both?

[silver steeple]

One or the other is fine tbh

They serve the same role

Desert anky

[shell sonnet]

They come from different formations; I'd like to have both

[buoyant vault]

YEAH

[silver steeple]

Dunno if the caps are really necessary

[slim flare]

Isn’t Nemegt wet?

[silver steeple]

Is one of them from Nemegt?

[slim flare]

Tarchia

[silver steeple]

Either way most of the Nemegt sp in the game like desert biome anyway

[shell sonnet]

Tarachia for Nemegt and Pinaco for Djadochta

[silver steeple]

It would be fairly different to Ankylo in terms of biome requirements even being from Nemegt

Come to think of it

Don't we have multiple Pinaco bonebeds

Mostly of juveniles I think

[ancient ibex]

By the looks of it, I'd say the area had wer and dry areas relatively close, with the preserved strata alternating but lineages being consistent

[silver steeple]

Yeah that's kinda the case

Very wet/forested area surrounded by desert

Which is what we see generally depicted in PhP for example

A lot of people equate it to the Okavango Delta in Botswana

But more temperate

[ancient ibex]

Still, going with the strata; Djadotcha is drier than the Nemegt just above it, but also drier than the stuff just below

[late swallow]

Nemegt is in fact moist

[slim flare]

Marginocephalia will be next

[left spear]

China (And a lot of Asia really) has a fame for fabricating things on mass at the cost of its quality, that has somewhat changed from a few years ago but still holds true in a lot of cases, you are reading wayyyyyy too much into it lmao

[late swallow]

there was no point to bring that back up

[median flint]

I was really under the impression we'd moved on from that, yeah 😅

[hollow furnace]

Achelousaurus, Dinosaur Park Pachyrhinosaur, the unnamed other Wapiti Pachyrhinosaurus

[shell sonnet]

mines already done:

Thescelosaurus neglectus/Orodromeus makelai/Parksosaurus warreni
Stegoceras validum/Stegoceras novomexicanum
Prenocephale prenes
Pachycephalosaurus wyomingensis/Pachycephalosaurus spinifer
Psittacosaurus mongoliensis/Psittacosaurus lujiatunensis/Psittacosaurus meileyingensis
Leptoceratops gracilis/Montanoceratops cerorhynchus/Prenoceratops pieganensis
Protoceratops andrewsi
Medusaceratops lokii/Lokiceratops rangiformis?
Nasutoceratops titusi/Furcatoceratops elucidans?
Styracosaurus albertensis/Centrosaurus apertus
Pachyrhinosaurus canadensis/Achelousaurus horneri?/Einiosaurus procurvicornis?
Chasmosaurus belli/Chasmosaurus russelli
Triceratops horridus/Triceratops prorsus
Pentaceratops sternbergii
Zuniceratops christopheri

[silver steeple]

Thescelosaurus isn't a marginocephalian

[shell sonnet]

It's a neoornithiscian, so close enough

[silver steeple]

By that logic Marginocephalians = cerapoda lmao

[feral cedar]

I mean Haringtonhippus is a horse, yes?

and it’s wild

So it’s technically a wild horse

[flint sable]

yes

its a wild horse

not the wild horse

Me personally I would want Black Dun and Bay Dun

I would also be fine with Bay and Black Dun

basically a brownish one and a grayish one

[quick ore]

why are people mad about Quaggas getting added? If you add literally any other Equus species to the game then it would be so easy to add Quaggas too

and vice versa

[neat iris]

Horse wishlist: Eohippus, Chalicotherium, Quagga, the La Brea horses

[slim flare]

I found this one probably the easiest

Marginocephalia x13
Triceratops
Pentaceratops
Pachyrhinosaurus
Styracosaurus
Nasutoceratops
Zuniceratops?
Protoceratops
Udanoceratops
Leptoceratops?
Yinlong
Psittacosaurus
Pachycephalosaurus
Prenocephale

Could maybe add Diabloceratops

[silver steeple]

Yinlong would be mini no?

Also no more chasmosaurines rip lmao

[slim flare]

Yeah, 1.2 m long

[slim flare]

Wdym?

Besides Pentaceratops, what else? Torosaurus?

[silver steeple]

Oh whoops missed Penta

But Chasmo and Kosmo are also options

[slim flare]

Chasmosaurus is like Pentaceratops-light

[silver steeple]

They are def similar

Could do an alt ig

Would say Kosmo can stand on its own tho imo

[slim flare]

Idk, you could do more Cetaopsids all day

Regaliceratops

[silver steeple]

You could yeah

I just think we need 1-2 more chasmosaurs besides Penta

[slim flare]

T. prorsus and T. horridus

[silver steeple]

That aren't already in the game

[slim flare]

Idk, I tried to cover the various parts of the tree

[quick ore]

Chalicotheres weren't horses

they were just Perissodactyls

[slim flare]

It is crazy how diverse yet similar non-Ceratopsid ceratopsians are

Besides Psittacosaurus and kinda Leptoceratopsids, they all got the same head

[silver steeple]

Basal ceratopsian genes are strong.....

[slim flare]

14 seems to be the magic number per clade

Obviously theropods won’t be so easy…

All right, Ornithopods

[flint sable]

I mean

comparing Theropoda to the various Ornithiscia clades arent really comparable IMO

I would personally split it into Carnosauria, Ceratosauria, Coelurosauria, and Other

alternatively, you could also swap Ceratosauria with Maniraptora for more specifics

and then just lump them into Other

[slim flare]

Ornithopoda x12
Edmontosaurus
Saurolophus
Parasaurolophus
Lambeosaurus
Ouranosaurus
Iguanodon
Camptosaurus
Dryosaurus
Muttaburrasaurus
Tenontosaurus
Hypsilophodon?
Leaellynasaura

Hadrosaurids are difficult because you could easily do 50 taxon

Maiasaura would probably be a good one tho

[shell sonnet]

Hypsilophodon foxii/Hexinlusaurus multidens?
Muttaburrasaurus langdoni
Tenontosaurus tilletti/Iani smithi?
Dryosaurus altus/Dysalotosaurus lettowvorbecki?
Camptosaurus dispar
Ouranosaurus nigeriensis
Iguanodon bernissartensis
Zalmoxes robustus/Zalmoxes shqiperorum
Parasaurolophus walkeri/Parasaurolophus cyrtocristatus/Parasaurolophus tubicen
Corythosaurus casuarius/Lambeosaurus lambei
Bactrosaurus johnsoni/Telmatosaurus transsylvanicus?
Maiasaura peeblesorum/Brachylophosaurus canadensis
Edmontosaurus annectens/Edmontosaurus regalis
Saurolophus osborni/Saurolophus angustirostris
Kritosaurus navajovius/Gryposaurus latidens

[slim flare]

Dude why are they formatted like this

They’re so hard to read

[silver steeple]

Also why are you suggesting alts for animals we already have

[shell sonnet]

look fine on my end, what are you on mobile or something

[shell sonnet]

why not

[slim flare]

Yes

[shell sonnet]

Well this is easier for me when copying from sheet

[silver steeple]

Because they aren't doing that

[slim flare]

I mean they could theoretically go back and do like Corythosaurus and Giraffititan, but not glupshitto

[silver steeple]

They certainly aren't going to replace the Psittaco sp lol

[silver steeple]

I'd rather that Cory just be its own thing tbh

[shell sonnet]

Who says it's a replacement; I'm just suggesting the ideal

[silver steeple]

It reads like your "ideal" is replacing what is currently in the game so

[slim flare]

Shit, what early jurassic ornithopods are there?

[hollow furnace]

Heterodontosaurus

[shell sonnet]

not an ornithiopod

and there are no early jurassic ornithopods

[slim flare]

Well that explains it

[shell sonnet]

if you want a mid jurassic one; Hexinlusaurus multidens

[slim flare]

Next clade

Other Ornithischians outside the main trio

Other Ornithischians:
Thescelosaurus
Heterodontosaurus

Other Saurischians:
Herrerasaurus
Eoraptor

Other Dinosaurs:
Chilesaurus

[buoyant vault]

glupshitto would be awesome bro

[slim flare]

And other notable weirdos?

[buoyant vault]

CAN WE GET uhhh

hang on

[slim flare]

Kulindadromeus?

[buoyant vault]

i forgot kulinda existed actually

yeah kulinda would be cool

[shell sonnet]

Silesaurus

[slim flare]

Debatably dinosaurs at all

[shell sonnet]

Psianosaurus might work for a mini

[silver steeple]

Not really

Pretty much all good phylogenies in the last ~5 years have them as the basalmost ornithschians

[slim flare]

Oh really?

[silver steeple]

Yeah

Including the Fonesca et al megaphylogeny on ornithischia

[slim flare]

That’s cool

They’re real weirdos

[silver steeple]

I'm a big proponent of Silesaurs

I think Silesaurus is from the same fm as Lisowicia too?

I'll double check that tho

[slim flare]

What Silesaurs are cool?

[shell sonnet]

the main one is I think the biggest

[slim flare]

Are any of the others notable?

[silver steeple]

Gondwanax sorta

[shell sonnet]

they're not but they are close

[silver steeple]

But that's it

[silver steeple]

Yeah that's what it seemed like once I looked into it

Very probable that they crossed paths at some point

[silver steeple]

This one is also too small at only about a meter

[slim flare]

So probably just Silesaurus?

[silver steeple]

Unless we get the phytosaur Paleorhinus probably ye

It would still get the shared region and time period bonuses with Liso tho

[hollow furnace]

could also just fudge the formation bonuses like with mutta and leaelly

[silver steeple]

Oh is that a thing?

I've never looked at them together before

[hollow furnace]

yes iirc

[silver steeple]

I'd totally be in favor of that

[hollow furnace]

At least I think Erior keeps posting it is

[modern totem]

Dinosaur Park Builder game players trying to not suggest every species known to have ever existed.

[silver steeple]

I guess I can boot up and look lol

[hollow furnace]

might be misremembering though

[shell sonnet]

they don't get a formation bonus

heck, they don't get a region bonus

[shell sonnet]

most of those are alts meant to help fill out other formations; I fail to see why it would it be a bad thing to have Tenontosaurus alt that lived alongside Utahraptor

[modern totem]

It's not a bad thing

it is just that, the devs aren't doing all of these species

[silver steeple]

As pineapple said, they do not

And yeah for some reason they don't get a region bonus???

Ok well this is odd

The panel says this Mutta is getting a total bonus score of 426

But its only got 256 from Shared Time Period

Where is that extra 170 coming from?

[slim flare]

Other Ornithischians: x4
Thescelosaurus
Kulindadromeus
Heterodontosaurus
Silesaurus

Other Saurischians: x2
Herrasaurus
Eoraptor

Other Dinosaurs:
Chilesaurus

[shell sonnet]

I tested out P. lakustai with P. Walkeri; they do get a region bonus but their total bonus is still higher than the shared region and shared time period one combined

[silver steeple]

Weird

[slim flare]

Seems to go back and forth for Eoraptor

[shell sonnet]

Region bonuses are weird; why should US and Canada be separate, same with Mongolia and China

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-good-question-good-question-gif-7176451729184982026

Ngl I think region bonuses would be far better if they were just by continent instead of country

Still doesn't explain Leally and Mutta tho lol

That's probably just a glitch/oversight

[slim flare]

Anything more? Chilesaurus being a complete enigma needs to be talked about more

[flint sable]

I think it should maybe be case by case basis

especially when considering plate tectonics

[silver steeple]

Nah

[flint sable]

like for example, something from eastern USA during the maastrichtian wouldnt have even been on the same continent as Laurasia

just as an example

[silver steeple]

Its literally as simple as Eurasia, NA, SA, Africa, Aus, and (if we get anything there) Antartica

[silver steeple]

Ok and

[shell sonnet]

we don't have anything from the eastern US (and there really isn't much there to add)

as far as Mesozoic goes

[silver steeple]

We have a decent bit actually

[slim flare]

Dryptosaurus

[shell sonnet]

extra

[silver steeple]

Just not much that's large or charismatic

[shell sonnet]

we don't really need Drypto

[slim flare]

Dryptosaurus alt for Nanotyrannus

[silver steeple]

Hadrosaurus is from there as well

[flint sable]

ture.....

[slim flare]

Hadrosaurus is super fragmentary

[hollow furnace]

dilophosaurus

[silver steeple]

True......

[shell sonnet]

Hadrosaurus also be a bad choice; we don't know what it really looks skull wise

[slim flare]

Gryposaurus 2

[silver steeple]

I'm just pointing out that there's plenty historically

Not that we need them in the game

[shell sonnet]

Historically yes, but I thinking in game terms; of course Hadro is important

[slim flare]

There’s only 1 clade left

[silver steeple]

In terms of game stuff its just like idk

Mastodon and Castoroides ig

[shell sonnet]

even if did lead scientist to give Dinos kangaroo poses

[silver steeple]

Assuming those get in

[buoyant vault]

HONESTLY i think itd be cool if we got castor

mastodons would be nice too

[silver steeple]

I mean I'm down

Just dunno if that's in the cards

[hollow furnace]

everyone was actually right that first time around, the semi aquatic mammal is in fact beaver

[silver steeple]

Lol I wish

[buoyant vault]

can we get an alioramin 🙏

[slim flare]

Theropods: x39
A Troodontid
Velociraptor
Utahraptor
Microraptor
Austroraptor
Halszkaraptor?
Gigantoraptor
Oviraptor
Caudipteryx or similar
Yi
Ornitholestes
Therizinosaurus
Mononykus
Gallimimus
Deinocheirus
Pelecanimimus
Compsognathus
Tyrannosaurus
Albertosaurus
A Megaraptorid
Yutyrannus
Guanlong
Carcharodontosaurus
Acrocanthosaurus
Concavenator
Allosaurus
Yangchuanosaurus
Torvosaurus
Spinosaurus
Baryonyx
Monolophosaurus?
Carnotaurus
Majungasaurus
Ceratosaurus
Masiakasaurus
Elaphrosaurus or Limusaurus
Dilophosaurus
Cryolophosaurus?
Coelophysis

I think a second Therizinosaur could be 40th

So every list I made in the last two days, comprising all of Dinosauria, equals a grand total of 102 species. Meaning if you want to be neat, you can bump-off 2 rather easily to be a nice, round 100. Really every notable non-avian dinosaur that ever existed.

[silver steeple]

Falcarius......

[late swallow]

Seconded

[silver steeple]

You counting the "or"s separately for that total count?

[slim flare]

No

“Or” means “or”

There can only be one

[buoyant vault]

MAYBE beipiaosaurus or falcarius

[slim flare]

Beipiaosaurus is apparently immature?

[buoyant vault]

oh???

thats cool actually

[silver steeple]

Yeah by a decent bit

Supposedly adults probably looked more "generic" by comparison

More upright, like say Erlik or Nothro

[slim flare]

I put down Falcarius

[quick ore]

Nothronychus so that it can be added alongside Zuniceratops
yes I watched WDRA multiple times as a child why do you ask

[flint sable]

very rare

especially in early paleontology

I think Megaloceros was one of the few that was also basically everyone thought was correct on the first go

since it was very recognizabley giant deer antlers

[hollow furnace]

what?

[left spear]

I think they mean like an very early reconstruction being essentially correct

Which like with dinosaurs yeah It would be very rare but with mammals is quite less prestigious

It's not that hard to see that the giant beaver was infact giant and a beaver

[wild relic]

Eoraptor is a basal sauropodomorph

[flint sable]

I mean in some of the super earliest stuff they werent even close

and kinda depends on what you consider paleontology even really

but they were horribly off with the Dragon that was supposedly inspired by Coelodonta bones and the one two legged freak unicorn

[silver steeple]

Yall that is not what Droid was talking about lmfao

[flint sable]

even early depictions of mammoths were wayyyyy off

[silver steeple]

He was talking about when people were trying to guess the semi-aquatic mammal that Mau teased

[flint sable]

oh

lmao

[left spear]

Lol, i mean tbh i wouldn't mind Castoroides over Ambulocetus

[steep carbon]

I would

[left spear]

Positively or negatively

[silver steeple]

Either way they gonna cook so I don't mind too much

[slim flare]

Maybe!

[steep carbon]

I would like the beaver, but not at the cost of the walking whale.

[left spear]

Crawling more like

[wild relic]

Really? Because I'm pretty sure as of recent it's been put there

[slim flare]

Yeah but it keeps going back and forth and regardless, it’s irrelevant to the species list

[left spear]

Recent studies put Both herrera and eo as sauropodomorph, which seems most likely, but it's still very messy

[hollow furnace]

Compromise, eoraptor is a chilesaur

[left spear]

Actually eoraptor is a poposaurid

[feral cedar]

Did you consider Lesothosaurus a thyreophoran and Hypsilophodon an ornithopod for this list

[steep carbon]

Ambulocetus is one of those thingings that feels symbolic somehow? Like its an icon of its age.

[left spear]

It's probably the most iconic eocene mammal

[steep carbon]

Like the definitive eocene animal- oh you beat me to it

[left spear]

It's only competition probably is Basilosaurus funnily enough

[slim flare]

Sure I guess

Hypsilophodon is on the Ornithopod list

Didn’t really consider Lesothosaurus good enough

[tidal flame]

I don’t care how long it takes, the devs will need to add every confirmed prehistoric species that we’ve ever discovered.

I must have them all like Pokémon

[left spear]

Yeah good choice i also think Life would be a good addition to the Game, very wide time and geographical range, i think you can put It in all formations

I would also like a Hadean pack tho

[tidal flame]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-ultron-this-is-exactly-what-i-wanted-wwe-raw-gif-19359002

[neat iris]

Polacanthus to go with the iguanodon

[slim flare]

Not sure Iguanodon is going to make it in

[neat iris]

I thought it already was

Unless I’m getting confused with the beta roster or whatever it was

[slim flare]

Joke

[neat iris]

Oh

Kentrosaurus to go with stegosaurus

[slim flare]

Yes

[neat iris]

Lambeosaurus and corythosaurus to go with parasaurolophus for multi-species hadrosaur herds

[slim flare]

Lambeosaurus is in the game

Now I’m going to recommend you consult the species list
https://www.prehistorickingdom.com/animals

[neat iris]

Oh yeah

Thanks for that

Still though, corythosaurus to go with them

Mixed-species hadrosaur herds since I think that’s believed to have been a real thing?

[slim flare]

I’m not aware of any evidence of that

[neat iris]

I’m honestly a little surprised we haven’t gotten pachycephalosaurus yet

I can’t recall if it’s been mentioned at all by the devs

[steep tulip]

Very likely it is in u17 together with stego and allo

[safe willow]

i definitly hope if the game is successful enough we got more stegosaurs
and spinosaurids

[lost magnet]

Definitely

Especially Stegosaurs

Like Huayangosaurus or Miragaia

[lost magnet]

We need Cerato tbh

[steep tulip]

No cera unfortunately it seems

[lost magnet]

:(

[steep tulip]

Was in the post ea plan

[lost magnet]

Post ea?

[steep tulip]

Possible content that the game might get after it exits early access

[lost magnet]

Ohhh

[steep tulip]

So dlcs and free updates and stuff

[lost magnet]

Wait, we have early access?

[steep tulip]

Yeah the game is in early access rn

[lost magnet]

Ohhh

I hope it comes post ea then

[steep tulip]

Fully releases with u19

So 4 updates to go still
Not counting u15

[lost magnet]

So is Allo just gonna get A. fragilis and A. jimmadensi or is A. europaeus coming too

[mint creek]

all three

plus saurophaganax

[steep tulip]

^

[lost magnet]

Nice

[lost magnet]

Really?

[mint creek]

yeah

[lost magnet]

It's a dubious taxon tho

[mint creek]

so is Ugranaaluk

[lost magnet]

True

I hope they'll add more Megalosauroids tho

Especially non-Spinosaurid Megalosauroids

[mint creek]

best I can give you is a baryonyx in U18

[lost magnet]

Baryonyx is cool

But how about Megalosaurus, Eustreptospondylus or Afrovenator?

Or what about Marshosaurus or Condorraptor?

And what about Monolophosaurus?

[lean hound]

yeah

[ancient ibex]

We are getting Yi

Scansors aren't that different from each other

Is that fucking tiktok as reference images?

[deep crest]

Is it possible that creatures like Anchiornis huxleyi and Ambopteryx longibrachium will appear in future exhibit cases?

[mint creek]

It's possible but I reckon unlikely since we've got Microraptor and are getting Yi

[ancient ibex]

Anchiornis is cool, Ambopteryx is a random suggesting when we are getting Yi

[deep crest]

I hope there will be more animals in display enclosures in the future.

The feather color of Anchiornis huxleyi is actually known, and it feels quite meaningful.

[plush nacelle]

Anchiornis can be in U17, if lizard is herbivore

If not then one of the most likely post EA species

For reason you said

But, if we are talking about chinese terrarium critters then confusciornis is very good

[outer moth]

Anchi is definitely possible in the future
It is pretty iconic

But yeah, we are already getting Yi Qi

[buoyant vault]

honestly if compy wasnt coming to the game i would be on my knees and begging for sinosauropteryx

[mint creek]

that's not stopping me

[buoyant vault]

[wild relic]

Honestly I don't see why both can't coexist in the same game

[steep tulip]

Truth

Also doubt anchi is coming

In u16

We already have a lot of arboreals
Like 4

Ngl

Im thinking one of the 2 dinos is really halszkaraptor

Cuz like
Only 2 semi aquatics?

Seems fishy
Literally

Also didelphodon wasn't really a piscivore, was it?

[lean hound]

It would make sense if it is semi aquatic

[plush nacelle]

Halszka doesn't really fit in with remaining diets

Semi-aquatic mammal would need to be either herbi or carnivore

[steep tulip]

As I said, didelphodon wasn't really a piscivore

It was durophagus
It ate mainly hard shelled stuff, possibly bones and other small animals

Would that qualify as a piscivore?
Would be a bit weird

Actually nvm

[lean hound]

There are some shelled animals in the fish feeders sooo..

Maybe

[steep tulip]

Yeah

Was about to say lol

🥀

[plush nacelle]

For me with lizard somehow not being insectivore line up looks like this:

• fuzzy triassic - meat
• semi-aquatic mammal - fish
• funky dino 1 - insect
• funky dino 2 - plant
• arboreal lizard - meat

Safe prediction, I have few cursed ones

[steep tulip]

My most cursed is that suminia is actually the lizard and the herbivore lol

[plush nacelle]

This is anchiornis angle then for funky dino being carnivore

[outer moth]

I doubt the arboreal lizard would be a carnivore though, if most of the community predicts that it’s Drepanosaurus

[buoyant vault]

would you guys rather have deino or sarco for crocs?

[outer moth]

Deino 100%

[plush nacelle]

Drepanosaurus could be carnivore with wacky mantis reconstruction

[buoyant vault]

(sarco isnt exactly a proper croc

[buoyant vault]

[steep tulip]

Drepano was 100% an insectivore

[outer moth]

Neither is Deino after the reclassification

[buoyant vault]

can we get deino and kapro (maybe rhamphosuchus)

[buoyant vault]

OH YEAH

forgot about that lol

[outer moth]

Sarco is cool as well, but it does feel like a DLC choice down the line

[plush nacelle]

My most cursed option is mammal being herbivore

[buoyant vault]

i really gotta start catching up on paleo oh my god

[plush nacelle]

Opening spot for halszka and fish

[outer moth]

I feel like these diet labels are kinda dated ever since the diet changes

Seeing as minis might also have diverse diets

[buoyant vault]

one thing i really want in the game is jakapil

idek why its just funny

[steep tulip]

But that would be their main one anyway

[outer moth]

It’s a taxanomic mess, but it’s a lovable taxanomic mess

[buoyant vault]

I LOVE JAKAPIL

[outer moth]

You’re right, but still
What if Halzka is the carni?
Would be half meat n half fish

Since we know the mammal is also semi-aquatic

[plush nacelle]

It appears lizard is not insectivore tho

[buoyant vault]

if interspecific animations ever happen i NEED to have halszka clean a spino’s teeth

[steep tulip]

I thought about that

Could be possible

But idk

[fresh ember]

Terrarium species don't free-roam.

[plush nacelle]

Any herbivorous fuzzy triassic critters out there?

[buoyant vault]

oh wait itd probabyl be terrarium

right

[steep tulip]

Some cynodonts were

But like

No way they picked those over something like thrinaxodon

We still have no idea if the 1 permian animal in ea thing is still valid lol

[plush nacelle]

I feel like fuzzy triassic spot is locked carnivore

[austere sparrow]

I could have sworn I've had a childhood dinosaur book that claimed Thrinaxodon was a herbivore. Which, looking at its teeth, is some mad funny shit.

Is the fuzzy animal for sure triassic? Because I can't help but think of Purlovia hearing that, but it might be naked and is permian besides

[hollow furnace]

yes

[shell sonnet]

Herrerasaurus ischigualastensis
Coelophysis bauri
Dilophosaurus wetherilli/Sinosaurus sinensis
Limusaurus inextricabilis/Elaphrosaurus bambergi
Masiakasaurus knopfleri
Ceratosaurus nasicornis
Carnotaurus sastrei
Majungasaurus crenatissimus
Monolophosaurus jiangi
Piatnitzkysaurus floresi/Marshosaurus bicentesimus?
Torvosaurus tanneri/Torvosaurus gurneyi
Afrovenator abakensis
Baryonyx walkeri/Suchomimus tenerensis
Spinosaurus aegyptiacus
Yangchuanosaurus shangyouensis/Sinraptor dongi?
Allosaurus fragilis/Allosaurus europaeus/Allosaurus jimmadseni
Neovenator salerii/Concavenator corcovatus?
Acrocanthosaurus atokensis
Giganotosaurus carolinii/Carcharodontosaurus saharicus/Tyrannotitan chubutensis
Megaraptor namunhuaiquii/Australovenator wintonensis?
Guanlong wucaii
Yutyrannus huali/Sinotyrannus kazuoensis?
Albertosaurus sarcophagus/Gorgosaurus libratus
Tyrannosaurus rex/Tarbosaurus bataar
Ornitholestes hermanni
Pelecanimimus polyodon
Gallimimus bullatus
Struthiomimus altus/Ornithomimus edmontonicus
Deinocheirus mirificus
Mononykus olecranus/Bonapartenykus ultimus
Falcarius utahensis
Nothronychus graffami/Neimongosaurus yangi/Therizinosaurus cheloniformis?
Citipati osmolskae/Oviraptor philoceratops
Anzu wyliei/Elmisaurus rarus
Gigantoraptor erlianensis
Utahraptor ostrommaysi/Dromaeosaurus albertensis
Deinonychus antirrhopus
Velociraptor mongoliensis
Austroraptor cabazai/Unenlagia comahuensis
Stenonychosaurus inequalis/Saurornithoides mongoliensis

Therapod (plus Herrea) listing for 40 mains; anything in bold already has been filled in, any question marks are debatable alts

[shell sonnet]

It is

[austere sparrow]

Right

Unless the devs go for fuzzy small species of Lystrosaurus I can't think of any real candidate that isn't carnivorous, then

[shell sonnet]

there are no fuzzy lystrosaurs

[austere sparrow]

...Wait did the devs say it was a stem-mammal?

Maybe it's a fucking Silesaur

[shell sonnet]

no, just that it was a fuzzy triassic critter

[austere sparrow]

Yeah that would be spec

[shell sonnet]

I still think a cynodont is the most likely option

[steep tulip]

Also might as well go with diictodon lol

[shell sonnet]

we have skin impressions, and apparently they don't have hair

[austere sparrow]

Hm

Whack

[steep tulip]

Are there any semi aquatic cynodonts

From the triassic

[austere sparrow]

RIP that one fuzzy Lystrosaurus mod for Skyrim

[shell sonnet]

I mean, the semi-aquatic mammal and the fuzzy Triassic critter are separate

[steep tulip]

I know

[austere sparrow]

...I guess it could also be a small Pterosaur like Eudimorphodon or Peteinosaurus or Caviramus, but I guess those would be carnivorous too

[steep tulip]

But only 2 semi aquatics?

Idk

[shell sonnet]

We have the walking fish

[steep tulip]

Yeah
Its 2

Out of 11

[austere sparrow]

I mean we only had two Arboreal animals for the longest time, I guess

I suppose if Pterosaur ends up being the answer that one could be semi-aquatic

Eat bugs and meat and fish

[shell sonnet]

supposedly one of the funky dinos got revealed to patreon and it eats insects

which raises the question about what the arboreal lizard is eating

[steep tulip]

Plants

Or the devs have a very different idea on what it classifies as an insectivore

[shell sonnet]

are there any notable prehistoric "lizards" that even eat plants

[steep tulip]

No

[shell sonnet]

or flesh for that matter

[steep tulip]

Maybe

[shell sonnet]

that live in trees

[steep tulip]

Problem is