Community Species Suggestions

[faint oak]

I’d do Eoraptor

Just saw the lad the other day

Great material, pretty well known as “the first dinosaur”, early sauropodomorph, formation buddies with Herrera

Cause you gotta do Herrera

[left spear]

Herrera is a triassic sloposaur in the best way possible

Defenetly a must

[faint oak]

Eo my beloved

The quartet must be completed

[hollow furnace]

Peteinosaurus photobomb

[feral cedar]

sloposaur?

[hollow flower]

On the topic of Triassic animals, heres a list of cool additions from it that are not dinosaurs: Posto and Saurosuchus, Various aetosaurs, Erythrosuchus, Phytosaurs like Smilosuchus, Sillosuchus, Lisowicia, Tanystropheus, Shringasaurus and Vancleavea

And thats not even including the minis

Or the aquatics

[late swallow]

Desmato, my beautiful child

I would give up allo for it

[feral cedar]

Smilosuchus sounds like a JW hybrid 😭

[late swallow]

Shringasaurus looks like a funky lil guy, let me go see how frag it id

[late swallow]

Yeah I saw, what a freak

[faint oak]

Time travelling dimorphodon 🙏

[neat iris]

It’s like a monitor lizard with backwards goat horns

[left spear]

Herrera has an extremely generic medium sized predator shape, It is a sloposaur in that sense, doesn't mean it's not an amazing animal and choice for the game

[unreal delta]

Idk if anyone has said it already but barinasuchus?

[final yarrow]

that doesnt even look all too up to date no?

or is it just the posture

[hollow flower]

The posture

But Shringa is lacking in good skeletals

[final yarrow]

good paleoart though

[steep tulip]

I want all of these

Shringa too

[late swallow]

do we actually have someone calling herrerasaurus a sloposaur

[hollow flower]

Okay but herrera is probably in the top 3 most generic looking popular theropods

Not that thats a bad thing but still

[flint sable]

thats where your wrong

its not even a theropod

it was before the sauropodomorph theropod split

[late swallow]

well, that's where we currently think

whenever a saurischia cladogram happens, Herrerasaurus teleports

[final yarrow]

next thing you know Herrera wont be a archosaur

and will be related to mammals

[late swallow]

at this rate, yah

[ancient ibex]

Herrerasaurs are pretty much the ancestral saurischian condition, while silesaurs are pretty much the ancestral ornithischian condition

[left spear]

It does look like one, even if it's not one taxonomically and it's still a great addition to the game

You can't deny It resembles shape wise a cheap knock off Dino toy

And still being a generic sloposaur is not necessarely a bad thing, Megalo is generic as you can get yet It would be an excellent alt for torvo

By sloposaur i mean anything in the vague shape of a dinosaur that with a few touch ups It could fit in 65, which being frank herrera does

[late swallow]

wth does "it could fit in 65" mean

[austere sparrow]

Damn, glad to see I'm not the person in here with the wildest unpopular takes anymore

[flint sable]

the movie

65

[left spear]

65 has weird amalgamations of animals that vaguely resemble dinosaur species in the publics eyes, herrera is cool because It resembles that in a really unique way only It and eoraptor

Yall are focussing way too much on the slop part of the name rather than what i'm saying

[late swallow]

yeah idk what the fuck that is

[slim flare]

65 mentioned

[flint sable]

good

[slim flare]

Ostracize

[austere sparrow]

If you look closely at Herrerasaurus you will note that it actually doesn't look that close to most other genericosaurs of the size class, like
It looks neither like a Coelurosaur or a Coelophysoid

It is generic for its own group but like. It's also the most well known and I believe well studied member of its group so like. It can deal

[left spear]

Weird movie where essentially all dinos are vague hybrids between popular species, herrera is kidna like that in looks, the vague idea of a dinosaur which makes It unique in its own way

[late swallow]

its type bearing

[flint sable]

I find it ironic that despite being a glupshittosaur in terms of looks, in terms of taxonomy its very distinctive

[austere sparrow]

😭 65? Really? That's the best way you can frame "has features you wouldn't expect in a singular animal" for yourself?

[late swallow]

its basal its gonna have some traits that at cursorial glances place it in "oh this is just a nothingburger", but if you actually take the time to understand it, it's rather distinct

[left spear]

What i'm going for is that Herrera looks like the vague concept of a dinosaur in a very classic way, which ironically makes It unique in its own way

[austere sparrow]

It lowkey looks like a JP Raptor, lol

[late swallow]

it doesnt tho

unless you're looking at 40 year old toy molds

[flint sable]

lowkey your not wrong

[left spear]

Most people still have that view of dinosaur, that's what i mean by a more classical view of dinosaurs

[austere sparrow]

Has that same. Weirdly-proportioned legs, chunky belly freaky arms, square skull (albeit this one is MORE square than that of the JP Raptors) and tapering tail dealio going

[left spear]

It's what JP should have looked more like

[outer moth]

TIL that Pentaceratops looks oddly cursed compared to other ceratopsians

[late swallow]

that's an incredible disservice and not really a solid foundation to stand on

[outer moth]

David Peters art spotted

[late swallow]

Penta is sick AF, but i'd rather diablo

when did discord add dragon ball stuff

[austere sparrow]

Wdym oddly cursed. Look at that Mammalian-ass Ceratopsian

[flint sable]

id rather not another ceratopsian for a while

[left spear]

I don't see how it's a disservice, i'm literally saying It works in favour of the animal

[outer moth]

It’s more of a DLC type of thing

[outer moth]

Since Daima

[austere sparrow]

A Ceratopsian DLC would, annoyingly, sell like hot cakes

[hollow furnace]

that is not david peters what lol?

[late swallow]

oh, certainly, we have so many Marginocephalians and TWO [3-4 in 17] Thyreophorans

[chrome wigeon]

Aquilops good

[outer moth]

Looked like it though

[hollow furnace]

it really doesn't though

[flint sable]

we have Pssitacosaurus

[chrome wigeon]

for mini exhibit

[flint sable]

and three species at that

[austere sparrow]

Give us Centrosaurus back + Multiple much requested (Lepto/Baga, Diablo, Penta, Toro, Einio)

[late swallow]

we have one we probably shouldn't

[left spear]

Toro?

Really

[late swallow]

i like toro

[austere sparrow]

People keep requesting Toro idk what to tell you 😔

[late swallow]

emotional attachment

[flint sable]

fr

[left spear]

I mean fair but there's much more unique options

[flint sable]

and we also have one afrothere

[left spear]

Idk Udano or even fuking Korea

[late swallow]

like the aaforementioned Diablo

[flint sable]

and no small ungulates

[chrome wigeon]

Chasmo better than toro

[austere sparrow]

Idk, we are talking Ceratopsians here. The basal ones have stuff, and the derived ones are entirely carried by their funky faces

[left spear]

Wouldn't mind if Diablo had a machairo alt, easy to make since it's just a headswap

[late swallow]

that's all Ceratopsia is

[left spear]

Marginocephalia tbh

[austere sparrow]

I mean. Machairoceratops is so little material tbh

[late swallow]

is it just a skull

[left spear]

Pachycephalosaurs are just size and dome swaps

[austere sparrow]

Shoutout to PNSO for their weirdass picks

[austere sparrow]

Not even a complete skull

[late swallow]

if it has a full enough skull, that's complete

[flint sable]

wait

if you guys think about it

pachycephalosaurs are like

weird basal bipedal ceratopsians

[left spear]

Oh ik but since we would only need the head and that's what we have then easy to make alt, totally get why not add It tho

[late swallow]

i'm still gonna cope with Homalo over Preno

[outer moth]

cough cough Atlasaurus cough cough

[flint sable]

because if you take basalmost ceratopsians and basalmost pachycephalosaurids they look super similar

[austere sparrow]

I have gone for like ten minutes without yelling at dinosaur fans due to rampant mammal withdrawal

[flint sable]

kinda like basal elephants and basal sirenians

[austere sparrow]

They have Atlasaurus?

[left spear]

~~Isn't that literally what they are presented as ~~

[hollow furnace]

that's mostly because 99%% of pachycephalosaur fossils are just domes

[left spear]

I mean fair

[hollow furnace]

we have like, four described specimens of pachycephlosaur postcrania I think lol

[outer moth]

Oh wait no Eofauna did it mb

[left spear]

Tbh i think we would be fine with only Pachy with stigy alt, homalo/Preno can be a dlc

[austere sparrow]

PNSO's weirdest picks are definitely Sinopliosaurus (which they had as a Spinosaur, despite, as the name indicates, it likely being a Pliosaur, and hella frag) and Hongkongosaurus (which has NOT been named yet and is ALSO so hella frag that the reconstruction is just two different animals mashed together)

[flint sable]

ye, and you get Dracorex for free

just like how we got Nanotyrannus in U14

/j

[austere sparrow]

Love that one, own it myself

Giraffe looking fucker

[outer moth]

It’s oddly more arm-ey

[austere sparrow]

Holy shit you guys Drag-and-sex in Prehistoric Kingdom? 😱

[left spear]

I mean ig they gotta have some regional picks

[left spear]

Dragon sex in prehistoric kingdom?

Varanus isn't in the Game yet sorry

[flint sable]

I mean

[austere sparrow]

That's right folks I am here in Priehistoic Kinkdom discord and they just confirmed six dragons you guys this is absolutely massive I love Azhdarchids. Lets go. Hit that like and subscribe button to win a free giftcard giveaway

[flint sable]

Griffins are

[flint sable]

so close enough

/j

[austere sparrow]

Protoceratops is not actually a griffin that was debunked 😔

[left spear]

Yeah it's actually a cockatrice

[austere sparrow]

🫵

You said a naughty word

[left spear]

Sorry

Dickatrice

[outer moth]

You meant Pingastrice?

[slim flare]

And reminder that it’s rather complete

Apparently the arm doesn’t count

[austere sparrow]

Oh shit it has a distinct looking skull

Holy shit

Why do none of you people advocating for it ever mention that

Oh right. I forgot. Ya'll couldn't advertise the interesting aspects of an animal suggestion if your life depended on it 😔

[flint sable]

I made a really well thought out post for Thylacinus once

I think I did a good job

[outer moth]

I did notice that
I like the more boxy shape

[outer moth]

I would but I’d need to put a lot more research into it

[slim flare]

Which is why it might be a basal Oviraptorosaurs

[austere sparrow]

Whack

[neat iris]

We very recently got oviraptor, but I would like to suggest its giant cousin

Gigantoraptor

[chrome wigeon]

What's the verdict on hyaenodon? I hope it'll still make it in

[left spear]

Hey i adverticed Pannonia and uhhhh uh uhh

I think i made quite good arguments for Devincencia as a Kele alt

[plush nacelle]

Shame it ultimately doesnt matter

[low bridge]

Hyaenodon is needed

Like Daeodon

And Stenomylus

Synthetoceras

[left spear]

It's been a while since i've seen someone suggest perucetus

[late swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-sulley-mike-now-put-that-thing-back-where-it-came-from-put-it-back-gif-5316646

[left spear]

It doesn't fit through the door

What do i do

[shell sonnet]

Cut it up into individual 1x1 cubes and put them into 1.2x1.2 boxes, takes the boxes through the door and then reassembly the thing once through.

[left spear]

Instructions unclear, now i'm unable to reassemble the door and going to be sued for property damage

[shell sonnet]

I always knew AI wouldn't live up to the hype

[faint oak]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-rogue-one-cassian-andor-since-iwas6years-old-star-wars-gif-15971170

[plush nacelle]

Just realised ornitholestes thanks to skin system can have depiction both with iconic crest as well as more accurate one

[feral cedar]

dang that’s a long ass neck

reminds me of this

[hollow flower]

Is it just me or does anyone else view the morrison as having 4 main sauropods?

Apato/Bronto, Diplo, Brachi and Camara

[shell sonnet]

I see is just 3; Camara never got the same amount of attention as the others

[ancient ibex]

The ABCDs

Camara is the most common

[shell sonnet]

(probably not helped by the fact that it's best find was as a juvi).

[ancient ibex]

If you want small and obs ure Haplocantho is right there

[shell sonnet]

I'm talking pop culture; Bronto was the sauropod of the USA, Dippy of Britian and France, Brachi of Germany. Dippy also had the benefit of being the longest and Brachi the biggest, so that prevented anyone from taking the top spot

[hollow flower]

Camara is my favourite personally

[desert flame]

If insects such as Meganeura are added to terrarium exhibits in the future, do you think ancient cockroaches like Aphthoroblattina could be added?

[hollow flower]

Depends on the size

[desert flame]

Yes
think it was about 30cm in size, so it might be too small for a terrarium exhibits.

[hollow furnace]

It was not

[shell sonnet]

that's a ft. that's big enough

[hollow furnace]

That was people misreading milimetres as centimetres

It's about 4 centimetres

[shell sonnet]

that is tiny, then again, I want the Golden Toad to come as a recently extinct mini and that's barely any bigger

[desert flame]

4cm!?
I didn't know that,that's too small.

ummm
If we were to add prehistoric arthropods, it might be Meganeura or Arthropleura.

[plush nacelle]

Bud so small, definitely not happening

[shell sonnet]

if we get marines later one, we could get Pterygotus grandidentatus or Jaekelopterus rhenaniae

[late swallow]

its still a rather large Cockroach

[desert flame]

If it's a Eurypterid, you can add the Hibbertopterus that lived in freshwater areas at an early stage.

[steep tulip]

We got bigger cockroaches alive today

[late swallow]

almost 2 inches is still pretty big for cockroach standards

i'm not trying to make it out to be massive

[sharp dock]

Its 2025 and people still missizing aphthoroblattina

[feral cedar]

2 inches is more than enough

for terrariums

[steep tulip]

Mazothairos propaganda
A while ago I was searching for close relatives and discovered that one of them has the name of an already named plant genus lol
Really makes you realise how much they care

[low bridge]

Argyrolagus is good for terrarium??

[shell sonnet]

the largest cockroach alive today is like a 2/3rds of a foot

[late swallow]

oh i know, and they're terrifying

[toxic oriole]

As much as I would like to see "Suciasaurus rex" in this game, given how its the first and so far only dinosaur fossil to have been discovered in my home state of Washington, its quite mysterious

(Its also the state dinosaur as of right now)

Plus there REALLY isnt alot to go with it in the fossil record

[flint sable]

by far

apparently skulls from camara are fairly common

[toxic oriole]

So instead of it as a fully reconstructed animal, maybe the fossil of Suciasaurus rex as a prop or something

or a replica of it

prop? replica? sorta the same thing

[flint sable]

I mean hey

better than my state

we have iirc three dinosaur remains, but all indeterminate

iirc an indeterminate hadrosaur bone and then two seperate dromaeosaur bones

on top of that we dont even have like

marine reptiles

[toxic oriole]

... And Suciasaurus rex is an unclear theropod, though likely a tyrannosaur

I guess they compared a tyrannosaur leg to the suciasaurus fossil and it seems to be a match, so far...

80 million years ago on what is now the San Juan Islands (I've never been there)

Could be a daspletosaurus that somehow got there, some people say it might be Daspletosaurus or something

[flint sable]

I mean

at the very least its named

so

[toxic oriole]

Yet its problematic in the sense of there being not much to go off of for reconstruction purposes

This is the fossil of the animal

VERY partial femur

[shell sonnet]

that's because they're way more robust than most sauropod skulls, so they survive and fossilize better

[flint sable]

yep

[toxic oriole]

Hell, it makes me want to go to the San Juan Islands and find the site the fossil was uncovered from and go searching

See what else is over there

Suciasaurus SHOULD be an important one given its location and such, but at the same time...

[flint sable]

I found the island it was found on

if that helps

[silver steeple]

I mean we also have larger extant frogs/toads than Beelzebufo, but you don't see people saying that it can't be in the game because of that lol

[flint sable]

48.749780, -122.899028

[shell sonnet]

I say that

[flint sable]

Fossil Bay, San Juan Islands

im assuming thats where it was found

given the name of the place

[toxic oriole]

Thats a funny name really

I guess there might be a treasure trove of fossils waiting to be uncovered, assuming no one else got to them already

[flint sable]

there actually does seem to be a lot of fossils reported

"Suciasaurus rex" seems to be the only vertebrate though

also its not actually named that, its just an informal name

[shell sonnet]

in any case, it's not formally named

so I don't see it coming anytime soon

[toxic oriole]

This is the shore that the fossil tip was found or something

Honestly I could only see it as decoration until more of it can be found

[flint sable]

actually

what do yall think the most paleontologically signifigant unnamed specimen is that we have rn

well not unnamed specimen but hasnt been named yet

my bet is the St Bathans Mammal but I wanna know what you guys think

[slim flare]

Morrison Troodontid

[toxic oriole]

Eh, I'd take Cryolophosaurus instead if not the local

[shell sonnet]

guess that could work for DLC as an alt for Dilo

[hollow furnace]

Hesperornithoides is already named tho

[slim flare]

Hence why crossed out

I remember when it was unnamed for many years

[dapper sky]

The Maip!

[silver steeple]

Probably that Turkana abelisaur

[plush nacelle]

Ya. Probably it

[dapper sky]

I only suggest this because it would be interesting to have a megaraptorid

[plush nacelle]

St bathan mammal is insane. So many questions about it

[flint sable]

fr

theres a ton of possibilites for what it could have been its not even funny how many there are

and if there was one mammal, there was presumabley probably a whole group of them

probably an entire family unique to the continent tbh

but they then mysteriously died out

[austere sparrow]

It almost definitely didn't have the iconic crest... But consider a similar soft tissue/feather crest... 🤔

[left spear]

Now a days i would say either Argent or amarga are the 4th main sauropod, atleast when It comes to popularity

[hollow flower]

Well yeah that is the case for sauropods in general but like

Just the morrison

No other formations

[shell sonnet]

amarga isn't even close

[austere sparrow]

Camarasaurus is probably not among the top four sauropods total (Amarga almost definitely replaced it there) but it's still in the top four of the Morrisonites

Not sure who could even dethrone it. Barosaurus? Supersaurus?

Synonyms of Diplodocus?

[left spear]

Oh i mean no wonder if it's just talking about morrison

[shell sonnet]

Argentino has them beat

[left spear]

But admitetly how many well conserved sauropods can Morrison have

[austere sparrow]

...I guess Barosaurus might have a shot, it has like. One pretty nice fossil, and if it is indeed stupid giant I could see it take over from Cam

[austere sparrow]

Oh yeah, good point

[left spear]

Anyways no.1 in popularity is Long Neck

[hollow flower]

Baro id say is like number 5 in the morrison

But its not exactly easy to beat the most common sauropod in your environment in a popularity contest

[shell sonnet]

I guess it depends if Bronto/Apato are separated

[silver steeple]

Bronto sweeps by far

[slim flare]

Apato/Bronto, Brachio, Camara and Diplo are the Big Four Morrison sauropods

[silver steeple]

Then Brach

[left spear]

Eh

[shell sonnet]

Nay, Brachi probably beats Bronto these days

JP has that kind of impact

[silver steeple]

Not even lol

[left spear]

I'd argue in popularity diplo Beats brachi

[slim flare]

Bronchiosaurus

[silver steeple]

Most people see Brach and call it Bronto lmao

[left spear]

Atleast in name if not animal recognition

[steep tulip]

I think people know brachiosaurus better by shape but still refer to it by brontosaurus

[silver steeple]

Purely by name

[shell sonnet]

In America

[left spear]

Depends on what you use to determine popularity

[silver steeple]

Bronto wins easy

[silver steeple]

Everywhere

[shell sonnet]

Even as a joke, this is just pure ignorance

[slim flare]

Brontosaurus
Brachiosaurus
Apatosaurus
Diplodocus
Camarasaurus

[left spear]

Bronto also has more of a generic sauropod shape, so more likely they succesfuly recognize it

[silver steeple]

Most people are indeed ignorant on dinos, idk what planet you live on

[hollow flower]

Once im back on my pc i can make a poll to see which is most popular here

[left spear]

I would put diplo over apato, otherwise everything on point

[slim flare]

Disagree

[shell sonnet]

And in parts of the world, Bronto is nowhere close to being the sauropod. Do you think WWD choose Dippy by accident; no, Dippy was the sauropod in the UK (and France and Italy and really much of Europe besides Germany), thanks to it's status as the symbol of the Natural History Museum

[silver steeple]

Ok

And most people still know Bronto above all

Its the longneck

On a global level Bronto just wins

[hollow flower]

Diplos got a hold over western europe, brachi has it over central europe, but alas apato/bronto still has the popularity with an iron fist

[silver steeple]

Some specific countries may have one be more popular but is not able to be compared lol

[hollow flower]

Oh?

[silver steeple]

If anything that kinda proves it

[left spear]

Yeah idk in other countries but heck here in Spain i would argue diplo and bronto are very close in popularity

Oh hey the map

[silver steeple]

If its being googled, it wouldn't be a household name lmao

People don't google "Kleenex"

[shell sonnet]

Rex is the most googled

[hollow flower]

True..

[shell sonnet]

Are you saying people don't know Rex

[left spear]

People know so little It doesn't matter

[hollow flower]

Very interesting

[left spear]

They could just be looking for an image

[silver steeple]

Also that

[hollow flower]

Reminds me of the survivorship bias conundrum

All these factors one must consider for the statistics

[silver steeple]

Google searches should not be taken with a lot of sincerity tbh

There's a million reasons for people to google anything

[shell sonnet]

Translation: i've got no evidence to support myself hypothesis so therefore I must attack the validity of the evidence

[left spear]

I mean looking for something means you know It exists

[silver steeple]

No?

[left spear]

Can't say that much for a lot of dinosaurs

[hollow flower]

True but its one of the few ways popularity can be measured on a wide scale

[slim flare]

I will petition the UN to conduct the most extensive study on the public knowledge of Morrison Sauropod Genera.

[silver steeple]

Thank you Satan

[hollow flower]

https://tenor.com/view/wreck-it-ralph-satan-not-today-satan-thanks-satan-the-devil-gif-3551380

[hollow furnace]

finally, a good use of government resources

[left spear]

Good, keeping in line with the type of the UN's priorities

[slim flare]

Ya’ll going to shit your pants when the clear winner is Suuwassea

[hollow flower]

Nah its Haplocanthosaurus

[left spear]

Btw this detailed pretty hard from spec lol

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-memes-gif-24180304

[hollow furnace]

Suuwassea more like Suuwasussya

[hollow flower]

But tbf Suuwassea is pretty unique among its contemporaries

Considering its a Dicraeosaurid

[slim flare]

Ok but I’ve never heard of it in my life

[hollow furnace]

who really cares this is the pit the mods made for us so we can yell into the void and pretend it has relevance

[shell sonnet]

Kaatedocus is also one of these

[slim flare]

And it’s one of those non-Greek/Latin names that is unpronounceable or spellable

[hollow flower]

Fair enough

Kaatedocus is better than Suu then

[slim flare]

Sure, idk

[hollow flower]

I know it cause im reading fosters book on the morrison currently

Otherwise id also be unknowlageable

[slim flare]

If it’s not the Big Four or adjacent (Supersaurus, Barosaurus) I really don’t know about them

[left spear]

For a dicraeosarid i'd rather have this one

[hollow flower]

Either way ive now developed an innate interest in sauropods currently

[hollow flower]

Oh for sure

[left spear]

It's fun shaped

[hollow flower]

Absolutely terrific beast

[left spear]

I love Mario Lanzas' one

[shell sonnet]

I have a better one

[slim flare]

Yes, the sauropod that should be Number 1 on everyone’s wishlist

[shell sonnet]

Dippy

[slim flare]

After that fight over Diplodocus or Nigersaurus or whatever

[hollow flower]

Reminds me why did Agustinia look like that

I mean really

[left spear]

This is our Saint Helena

[slim flare]

Misidentified ribs as spikes afaik

[digital pendant]

afaik that was a misinterpretation

[hollow flower]

Yeah but like

Such an odd choice

[shell sonnet]

it didn't, that's an outdated drawing when people mistook the ribs for spikes

[digital pendant]

AMARGASAURUS NUMERO UNO

[left spear]

RAHHHH PAIS HISPANO DINOSAURIO

[hollow flower]

Me personally id like mamenchi possibly

Still amarg takes priority

[slim flare]

Agustinia was known for its distinctive supposed armor plates, called osteoderms, initially interpreted as a series of wide, vertical spikes and plates down the center of its back, somewhat like the unrelated Stegosaurus. However, subsequent research has challenged the interpretation of these elements as osteoderms. Further study of the poorly preserved fossil material showed that these "plates" were in fact more likely to be fragments of ribs and hip bones. This reassessment was reaffirmed subsequently by histology of the purported osteoderms, which do not match the internal structure of other titanosaurian osteoderms.

[left spear]

Argentinian tho

Hmmm

Eh it's not Buenos Aires

[shell sonnet]

the super ideal list:
Plateosaurus trossingensis/Plateosaurus gracilis
Massospondylus carinatus/Lufengosaurus huenei
Patagosaurus fariasi
Shunosaurus lii
Jobaria tiguidensis
Mamenchisaurus youngi/Mamenchisaurus hochuanensis/Omeisaurus tianfuensis
Diplodocus carnegii/Diplodocus hallorum/Barosaurus lentus
Apatosaurus ajax/Brontosaurus excelsus
Amargasaurus cazaui
Nigersaurus taqueti
Camarasaurus supremus/Camarasaurus lentus/Lourinhasaurus alenquerensis
Giraffatitan brancai/Brachiosaurus altithorax
Mierasaurus bobyoungi
Saltasaurus loricatus
Patagotitan mayorum/Futalognkosaurus dukei

[hollow flower]

Oh my

Lets see

[slim flare]

Why is it formatted that way

[left spear]

Oh with sauropodomorphs

[shell sonnet]

I copied it from a sheet

[left spear]

No Maggy or Herrera/Buriolestes

[steep tulip]

Earth will heal when they add spinophorosaurus

[shell sonnet]

Maggy is fragmentary, Herrera isn't part of the saurophomorpha

[shell sonnet]

that doesn't have a tail club

[left spear]

It has a thagomizer

Pretty cool shit

[shell sonnet]

Spinoophorosaurus doesn't have one, that was disproven

[left spear]

Rapeto then

[shell sonnet]

didn't have room

[left spear]

Either way Argent is also frag af

[steep tulip]

I know
I just threw a random sauropod name out

[shell sonnet]

I don't have Argentio on the list

[slim flare]

Rapetosaurus would need to come with Majungasaurus

Just like Thylacoleo, Diprotodon, Procoptodon and megalania

[steep tulip]

Parts of me want rapeto just to complete the maeravano formation

But it's also not all that remarkable as a sauropod

[left spear]

I mean that maggy wouldn't be irredimably fragmentary , and i mean argentino

[left spear]

No wonder, Maeverano is fucking amazing

[austere sparrow]

Do not understand why people keep asking for Rapeto, I can't think of anything interesting about it beyond "lived near other interesting stuff"

[left spear]

Imo the best formation when It comes to uniqueness

Weird ass ecosystem for the time

[hollow furnace]

that's because there's nothing else interesting about it, hope that helps!

[austere sparrow]

Anyways here's the ultimate Sauropod list devs pls make sure to add all of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sauropodomorpha

[left spear]

Smallish sauropod, since Maggy isn't on the List i was oroposing other island dwarfs

Imo either Maggy or europa are a must

[austere sparrow]

"Smallish Sauropod" is really not as unique a niche as people think it is 😔

[steep tulip]

Majunga, masiaka, mahajanga
That's basically all the other exhibit tier animal in the formation

[shell sonnet]

it's pretty bad

[austere sparrow]

Holy shit it's Paludititan whoop whoop

[left spear]

That's about the same as argentino

[austere sparrow]

Best Hateg Sauropoop

[steep tulip]

That have a chance to be in the game I should specify

[hollow furnace]

Rapeto isn't even that small probably, our best material is just a juvenile

Like, it probably wasn't huge for a sauropod, but also not tiny

[left spear]

What i mean is that it's doable, where you like It as a pick or not is another matter

[austere sparrow]

I kinda want Uriash for having a unique-vibey name tbh

[shell sonnet]

you act as if I personally picked Argentino

I would have tossed it aside

[steep tulip]

Also stegosaurus

[austere sparrow]

But also this is all nonsense when Saltasaurus exists on one side and Europasaurus exists on the other

[left spear]

Oh i know, it's still probably like 5 tons

[left spear]

I mean fair? I just said that maggy being fragmentary doesn't really matter since we got Argent as a fully fledged species

[late swallow]

i would have taken Dreadnoughtus if i were the decider

[austere sparrow]

Magy annoyingly does have the best addition chances. Which is silly, because it's a frag ass placenamosaurus named after a place it doesn't even live in

[late swallow]

comparing a 5t sauropod and its completeness to that of one over 40t isn't quite 1:1

[shell sonnet]

Argentino (and Carchadonto) also have far more name recognition, by a lot

[left spear]

Also Maadtsoia if they were able to figure out habitat crawlers but that's never going to happen realistically

[austere sparrow]

Argent has the name recognition to make up for being frag, yeah

I feel like Magy might too tho

[late swallow]

i still don't know what the hell a Magyrosaurus is

[left spear]

Maadtsoia as a mini/specieal would be fun tho

[austere sparrow]

It's even more synonymous with Hateg than Hatzegopteryx is

[austere sparrow]

Tiny Titanosaur from Romania

[late swallow]

i figured we were talking about Hateg

[left spear]

It could easily come in an insular pack

[austere sparrow]

Magy's refusal to slide into obscurity annoys me greatly tbh

[plush nacelle]

Madagascar zone in zoo would be hot

[left spear]

Blame the isle for it

[austere sparrow]

Insular pack with Malagasy Pleistocene, Hateg and some recent extinctions would rock

Lmfao nah

[steep tulip]

100%

[austere sparrow]

The Isle? Nahhh

[late swallow]

we need a canadian theropod

[steep tulip]

Was thinking about that all the possible maeravano stuff would make a lovely starting entrance

[left spear]

Really i don't care if it's europa or Maggy but one of the two

[austere sparrow]

Dinosaur Planet has it. Planet Dinosaur has it. Not sure Prehistoric Planet has it but like

[late swallow]

Alberto

[left spear]

Madagascar by itself could have 2 dlcs

[austere sparrow]

Fucking heck

[shell sonnet]

I chose Patagotitan because over it because it shares its formation with at least one other good animal (Tyrannotitan). I chose Futalong over it as well because it shares its formation with two: Megaraptor and Unenlagia

[hollow furnace]

I'm a very strong advocate for Maevarano being a terrarium hotspot like the Jehol biota, it's got some really cool fun options

[left spear]

There's just so much peak It feels unreal

[austere sparrow]

The Isle, lmfao. I will count the Isle as adding to Magy's undeserved fame once Dondi actually releases the fucker

[late swallow]

totally reasonable. i went dread just due to completion

[steep tulip]

There's a decent chance magyaro was as big if not a bit bigger than europasaurus
From what I know

[plush nacelle]

3 mesozoic terrarium hotspots:

• Madagascar
• Jehol
• Maastrichtian NA

[flint sable]

tyrannosaurus is right there

[austere sparrow]

Ngl I would have taken Argent as the Southam Megatitanosaur just due to it's fame (and they all look near identical anyway) but given it Dread and Patagotitan alts

[late swallow]

but like you know what i mean

[hollow furnace]

Third should be Tiaojishan

[steep tulip]

Coelurosauravus is also from madagascar
All madagascar park

[shell sonnet]

Dread is probably more complete, but Patagotitan is as well, especially compared to its competition

[left spear]

To have a complete Madagascar pack It would need to have like 12 species

[slim flare]

No skull, no recognition

[plush nacelle]

Idk. Maastrichtian NA has: small crocs like stangerochampsa, didelphodon, plenty turtles, champsosaurus, habrosaurus, water birds

[late swallow]

oh my, i'd never seen Black Beauty

[austere sparrow]

I feel like we ought to keep in mind that even the obscurer Terrarium animals so far (say, Yi) are still darlings of online Paleo-enthusiast culture

[flint sable]

definitely

[hollow furnace]

Free my baby boy from terrarium imprisonment

[austere sparrow]

I would love the fucking. Gamera turtle. But I don't think the devs are willing to go quite that obscure

[late swallow]

okay yeah Yi is obscure outside of us hyperdorks

[austere sparrow]

Like Mau said we would never guess one of the Terrarium animals but I'll believe it when I see it

[steep tulip]

Chamsosaurus with kosmodraco alt

[flint sable]

even the so called "obscure" alts we have gotten have all been relatively well known inside of dino nerd paleo circles

the only realy exception I can really think of are Juxia and Sinotherium

[hollow furnace]

No, Champsosaurus with a Champsosaurus alt

[steep tulip]

Actually it wouldn't work

Kosmo snout is very blunt

[flint sable]

which arent even that well known in dino nerd circles, mostly because they are mammals

[steep tulip]

Tho yeah

[austere sparrow]

Like hell. Tiktaalik has memes and appeared in, fucking, Bigtop burger of all things. Yi made it into ARK. Simo is in PrePla.

[hollow furnace]

In fact, make Champsosaurus the first 5-alt animal in game, oops all Champsosaurus time

[steep tulip]

Champso as exhibit
I need it

[flint sable]

you could also argue for Charonosaurus in that case I suppose

[hollow furnace]

Good, you've come around to the correct side

[austere sparrow]

Charono, Juxia and the other glupshitto alts don't count

[flint sable]

I would say Sino, Juxia, and Charono are the three least well known animals ingame rn, all of which are alts

[shell sonnet]

as I said above, I would switch out Dread for Futalong simply do to its neighbors (and it's big ass hips)

[slim flare]

I would argue Scelidosaurus is the most obscure non-alt species in PK

[flint sable]

honestly

yeah

actually

no

[austere sparrow]

Damn. Bro is fucking b r e e d a b l e

[flint sable]

I think Torvosaurus might be more obscure ngl

but not by much

[austere sparrow]

Torvo was in Dinosaur Revolution, that's. A thing.

...And I guess WWD25 but nobody watched that

Dinosaur Revolution versus Dinosaur Britain 🤔 ⚖️

[slim flare]

Torvosaurus is also pretty well-known for anyone who has looked up anything on the Morrison

[flint sable]

does it being in a 15 year old dinosaur doccumentary really give it that much more of a boost though

[austere sparrow]

Yes 😔

You'd be surprised

[slim flare]

The 26 year old documentary:

[flint sable]

ture.......

[austere sparrow]

Case in point!

[flint sable]

alright yeah good argument

scelidio more obscure

[plush nacelle]

Imagine comparing walking with dinosaurs to dinosaur revolution lol

[flint sable]

true

[austere sparrow]

Fucking whack that being in more recent documentaries means being more obscure tho 😭

[shell sonnet]

Yeah, but even then Sceldio isn't that obscure

[slim flare]

The way he phrased it tho

[shell sonnet]

it's not like some of Frontier's weirder choices

[flint sable]

actually hold up

hear me out but Ouranosaurus or Muttaburrasaurus

[austere sparrow]

Dinosaur Revolution somehow held up better 😔

[flint sable]

especially Ourano

[austere sparrow]

Actually what do I say somehow

[flint sable]

also I dont wanna hear JPOG

[shell sonnet]

WWD for Mutta

[austere sparrow]

WWD couldn't even keep fucking T.rex on model

[slim flare]

Ouranosaurus JPOG!!!

Mutta in WWD of course

[austere sparrow]

Ourano was in JPOG and Planet Dinosaur and uh... I feel like all the JP mobile games too

[slim flare]

And both in JWE probably

And Camp Cretaceous had Ouranosaurus afaik

[flint sable]

ok yeah lmao

but wait a minute I just realized, Torvo has two species

oh wait nvm T. gurneyii is an alt

[steep tulip]

Such a weird thing
I've known about scelido since I was very little
But alas

[slim flare]

I said no alts

[flint sable]

I forgot somehow lmao

I thought it was a camara situation for a second lol

[slim flare]

I vaguely knew about it before PK

[austere sparrow]

Since T.gurneyii is the more popular one, that means Torovosaurus forgotthemainspecies is the winner of most obscure title

[slim flare]

The only non-alt that was like that in PK

[slim flare]

tanneri afaik

[austere sparrow]

That's the one

[flint sable]

I knew about scelidio just because its super complete

[austere sparrow]

I tried to remember but Daspletosaurus tried to sell me on T.torosus

[flint sable]

kinda really weird how complete scelidio is for it being a relative glupshitto

[shell sonnet]

same but again, PK hasn't gone for out of the left field choices; not like Frontier choosing Archaeornithomimus or Qianzo

[hollow furnace]

Who was the most obscure animal in the original 50 species?

[austere sparrow]

Scelidosaurus is literally just shittier Borealopelta lmao 😭

[shell sonnet]

Mira

[shell sonnet]

now this is just wrong

[steep tulip]

Tbf one of the first dinos I ever knew about was scutellosaurus so not that weird lol

[austere sparrow]

Hope we get Dimo as a full exhibit as a friend for it

[flint sable]

what

scelidiosaurus literally isnt even an ankylosaur

[steep tulip]

Imo as long as the animal is interesting and has good material it doesn't matter too much how well known it is

[hollow furnace]

literally everything is shittier then borealopelta, there are animals alive today which are shittier then borealopelta

[austere sparrow]

"Thyreophoran only known from being washed out to sea, friendless, maidenless, but really well preserved"

[flint sable]

if your talking preservation quality then yeah, you be hard pressed to find a fossil better preserved than borealopelta of all things

[plush nacelle]

Speaking facts?

Someone finally?

[flint sable]

borealopelta is more on par with pleistocene mummies in terms of preservation than basically any fossil

we know more about it than some living animals

[austere sparrow]

Damn I sure wish the devs and larger playerbase agreed

[shell sonnet]

to be fair, Sceldio is mostly complete, arguably more so than Boreal

[flint sable]

in terms of bones we have definitely

but what we have from borealopelta is signifigantly higher quality

[hollow furnace]

We have multiple scelidosaurus

[flint sable]

also that too

theres several

we have all of the bones from scelidio, but are from different specimens

[left spear]

We have more of Borealopelta than of for example the Rodrigues solitaire

[hollow furnace]

There's also animals from the same place, even if not terrestrial, that will probably come

[left spear]

I swear the dislike for borealo is so forced

[flint sable]

fr

[austere sparrow]

It is kinda funny that we have people becry Borealopelta as a bad pick, even for an alt, considering like. Scelidosaurus made it ingame on its own

[hollow furnace]

Pleisosaurus, Icthyosaurus, Dimorphodon

[plush nacelle]

Imagine throwing shit at scelidosaurus

Sad

[late swallow]

leave my stupid fat child alone

[austere sparrow]

...Kinda wish they had given it an Emausaurus alt tho

[flint sable]

main thing with borealopelta being not the greatest pick in my opinion is mostly due the fact that we know basically nothing about where it lived, but thats also entirely true for Scelidiosaurus

[left spear]

People say borealo is boring as if nodosaurs are the peak of interesting body shape and adaptations

[digital pendant]

Poster material words

[late swallow]

you can't hate this face

[hollow furnace]

My main problem with Borealopelta is literally just that it's so well preserved it would kinda lessen it to portray it with multiple skins, and all its relatives are either too boring or too distant to make alts

[austere sparrow]

I mean they're not Coelurosaurs but they're not that bad? Better than Ceratopsians at the very fucking least

[left spear]

Okay but Who actually cares about popularity when suggesting animals, that's the shitties way you could use to make suggestions

[flint sable]

actually thats another really good point

[left spear]

I Guess we can't add literally anything not from jw/jp

[digital pendant]

Popularity is subjective anyways

[austere sparrow]

The devs seem to value popularity more than any other metric, considering like. Carch made it in

[flint sable]

although I suppose we dont know that much about its color in the grand scheme of things other than it was reddish

[austere sparrow]

Actually I guess Carch has cohabitation potential I suppose

[flint sable]

you can still get variation from that

[shell sonnet]

I mean

[left spear]

If they did they would have added giga

[late swallow]

what the fuck is that

[shell sonnet]

Gastonia

[flint sable]

pinkish red, orangish red, reddish red

[shell sonnet]

contemporary of Utahraptor

[late swallow]

i dont like it

[flint sable]

but that would probably be individual variation tbh

[late swallow]

its looking at me weird

[austere sparrow]

Giga schmigga

[left spear]

Never said they were all the same, but compared to other groups they are a bit samey, i can agree on borealo not being base Game but saying it shouldn't even be DLC is stupid

[shell sonnet]

Giga was held off for DLC because JFC fanatics will 100 % buy that

[left spear]

Hopefully not

[hollow furnace]

reddish, with colouration tapering off at the ends of the spines

[austere sparrow]

Yeahhhh

Giga has been in like. All of the fucking ancient species lists, it's getting in

[flint sable]

best solution for Borealopelta is to make it either an alt of another nodosaurid and as a result have one skin, or just get a reddish colored skin for another nodosaur that looks vaguely similar

[shell sonnet]

I don't dislike Boreal, my only knock against it is a lack of neighbors

[austere sparrow]

Oh hi, Edmontonia

[flint sable]

I mean both Leally and Mutta exist

[left spear]

Also about this this also applies to some degree to Raphus or thylacinus, just make It so the first skin on the hatchery when you enter a Dino is the paleoaccurate one

[flint sable]

ye

although with Thylacinus I think they should probably go with alts instead of just making stuff up tbh

same for most of the RE species if they can

[hollow furnace]

I still stand by my old idea back when the mini rework was just regular animals with one skin and no ontogeny to make Borealopelta a mini exhibit animal

[shell sonnet]

Australia is treated just one big neighborhood because their dig sites are miserable besides Winton.

[left spear]

Besides it's fun to butcher animal skins accuracy wise, give me an Orange and White dodo

[flint sable]

also Borealopelta isnt the only critter from its formation

[low bridge]

Lesmesodon is good??

[flint sable]

theres also marine reptiles from the location iirc

[hollow furnace]

All non-triassic or jurassic icthyosaurs are cringe, sorry

[left spear]

Asmongold may actually qualify for the game

[flint sable]

theres also plesiosaurs

womp womp

[slim flare]

Tbf Archaeornithomimus was called by name in JW

[austere sparrow]

It's so funny that we have yet to receive any Winton critter; and when we do, we likely will only get a single one anyway because fuck Sauropods that aren't independently famous I guess

[slim flare]

And thus vaguely implied to exist in the park

[left spear]

Being serious a mini hyanodontid sounds fun

Lesmesodon is a pretty solid pick

[hollow furnace]

Should add the Oilsandosaurus suncori and Oilsandosaurus Imperialoili instead

[flint sable]

agreed

[austere sparrow]

You know an animal is a solid pick when the english Wikipedia page is three sentences long 👍

[hollow furnace]

you mean basically any extinct animal that isn't a dinosaur?

[flint sable]

I mean Juxia's is only two paragraphs

[late swallow]

what was the one whos fuckin "size" subsection was literally just the measurement

[shell sonnet]

that's not true; most extinct apes have plenty big pages

[low bridge]

"Tooth of Messel"

[ancient ibex]

Paleoanthro is a cesspool

[austere sparrow]

Prehistoric mammals can be dire, but usually not this dire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesmesodon

[left spear]

I mean tbh i think it's interesting enough by itself

[austere sparrow]

Juxia with her two paragraphs for contrast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juxia

[left spear]

There's not much else to say

What you see is what you get

And a weasel sized hyanodont as a mini sounds fun

[flint sable]

how about weasel size Hyaenodon

[late swallow]

wait a damn second

[shell sonnet]

the lack of details for extinct mammals is less troubling than the lack of good skeletals

[flint sable]

wastebasket taxon moment

[left spear]

Not a gluppshito remains wise by any mesns

[austere sparrow]

It's a tiny fake dog 😭 I mean like. Fair enough it's a nice generic animal that wears itself on its sleeve but like. Maybe we could get something more interesting instead

Surely there's one of these with like, antlers, or something

[late swallow]

is that broken out syllables instead of the standardised scripting for phonetics

[flint sable]

Hyaenadon casually having tiger sized animals and pine marten sized animals in the same genus

[left spear]

It looses the generic quality to It then

Not everything needs to be over the top

One reason why Megalo as a torvo alt is based

[flint sable]

its like lumping the entirety of Felidae into one genus

almost as bad as Varanus

[austere sparrow]

😭 I don't mind a generic looking animal here and there but like. Damn. Can you at least pick something that has mad range so it can be a formation buddy to a stupid amount of other animals, or something

[left spear]

Was priscus the last straw

[austere sparrow]

Like I guess Lesmo would be a mini anyway so it doesn't matter too much but like. Still

[flint sable]

nah I like V priscus

I just think that all of the subgenera in Varanus should be promoted to genera

or at least most

[left spear]

I mean It gave It a common name which are fun to have in prehistoric species

[austere sparrow]

Also Oxyaena is a better choice for a tiny basal mammal

[left spear]

Realistically how many non-pangea critters do that

[austere sparrow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyaena

Look at that girthy Wikipedia stub

[flint sable]

I mean

theres a ton of carnivores alive today that are found in pretty much all of Laurasia

or at least a genus

but I think having such wide ranges is moresoe a recent trend in the grand scheme of things

unless you go back really far

[left spear]

I mean fair look at panthera

[flint sable]

theres also a ton of birds that have near cosmopolitan ranges

[left spear]

All but 2 continents

[left spear]

Birds and bats kidna cheating tbh

[flint sable]

Felis, Panthera, Vulpes, Canis, ect

[austere sparrow]

Don't even need to get multiple continents imo. Just being in dozens of Formations on the same continent where other stuff lives is in itself pretty good

...Especially assuming it's like. Distinct ecologies

(Looking at you, sub-formations of Morrison)

[plush nacelle]

Imagine using this argument against lesmesodon

Dude is from messel pit lol

It is going to get few animals post EA by default

[left spear]

Oh yeah

[slim flare]

It does suck terrarium species have no interactions

[left spear]

It shares with Darwinius and Leptic

[slim flare]

Especially as it was teased they’d do more until that was backpedaled

[hollow furnace]

Leptictidium, Darwinius, maybe Gastornis/Diatryma

[slim flare]

So like Messels will always be terrarium fodder beyond Gastornis and maybe like two other things

[plush nacelle]

Horsey

[left spear]

I was hoping you could put prefab enrichment like in the modern zoo Tycoon in the enclousures, maybe with things for the animals to interact with the guests

[slim flare]

We’ll see

[plush nacelle]

Yixian is also going to be terrarium fodder

[slim flare]

Maybe they’re doing secret shit like they occasionally do but I don’t want to hope for something that won’t happen

[hollow furnace]

Messel doesn't even have the popular tiny horsies, Hyracotherium or Eohippus seem more likely imo if we were to get one

[left spear]

There could also be a really Big mini DLC that as a free update updates mini exhibits

[austere sparrow]

You don't need more formation buddies if you already have enough formation buddies 🤷‍♀️

[left spear]

I would buy the shit out of a 15-20€ DLC with like 20 minis

[hollow furnace]

Absolutely lol

I don't even need to buy DLCs twice over and I'd still by a terrarium dlc

[austere sparrow]

Messel has Propaleotherium. Which is not actually a tiny horsey but has the same niche

[plush nacelle]

I think people would focus more on horse itself than name attached to it. Propalaeotherium is big enough to be proper habitat animal and eurohippus is also fun

[hollow furnace]

Yeah it has ones, I mean I think eohippus or hyracotherium are more likely choices if you're going for one

[austere sparrow]

Propaleotherium might also be the second most well known of the bunch due to WWB. Eohippus might contest it but I believe is too small for proper exhibit status so Propaleo would be imo the better choice

[left spear]

Isn't eohippus the most popular small Horse after tini tiny

[austere sparrow]

Lemme check actually

[plush nacelle]

Hyracotherium is such a freak I imagine devs wouldnt pick it tbh

[hollow furnace]

And I mean London Clay and Messel are close enough you can probably just combine them mentally anyways

[plush nacelle]

And go for something more cute

[low bridge]

This Prehistoric Kingdom is PEAK OF ALL PEAKS

[austere sparrow]

Hm. Eohippus might be tall enough actually. Not as long as Psitt but seems similarly tall

[left spear]

Modern Europe is very uniform anyways, you could put them together in an nature map without batting any eye

[hollow furnace]

It's not like actual zoos are bothering with geographic consistency beyond broad regions half the time anyways, why bother with spatial and temporal consistency in a dinosaur (or early mammal) zoo?

[austere sparrow]

I guess I wouldn't mind Eo as a Mini and Propaleo as an exhibitor 🤔

[austere sparrow]

Because we get ingame benefits

[plush nacelle]

Like why does it look like this tanky

[left spear]

You mean all reptiles don't share the same building?

[left spear]

Tbh Who needs them, the Game is super easy either way

[austere sparrow]

I mean not wrong, but they still exist xP

[hollow furnace]

I mean golden lion tamarins are totally from the amazon and not a completely different region, just throw them all together its fine

[left spear]

Put them in the lion exhibit

[hollow furnace]

Wouldn't get them anyways with messel animals more likely then not anyways, considering most to all of them will be terrariums

[left spear]

I think there was a medium sized sebecid

[austere sparrow]

Yeah, true

[left spear]

Gastornis/dynatrima isn't getting any bonus companion even then

[austere sparrow]

Gastornis and Propaleotherium are the best Messel duo 4 real 4 real

[hollow furnace]

Oh hey, Boverisuchus is from messel

Dope

[left spear]

I think that's the one i was refering to

[hollow furnace]

No, there is a sebecid

Boverisuchus is a different beast

[plush nacelle]

Propalaeotherium

[hollow furnace]

Bergisuchus

is the sebecosuchian

[left spear]

Btw talking about sebecids the real question now

Barina as a sebeccus alt or Barina with a sebeccus alt

[hollow furnace]

none of them, no more crocodiles

[left spear]

Alternatively make It a three way with Iberosuchus or other non-south american sebecid

[left spear]

Fair, we have too many currently

Unlike rhinos

[austere sparrow]

The American Gastornis (which I guess might be Diatryma now?) lived alongside Coryphodon. That would be a neat alt buddy if it had any shot at inclusion

[left spear]

We could really use some rhinos

[low bridge]

Let's take Fasolasuchus

[left spear]

Eh tbh i'd say rauisuchids are a whole different thing

Realistically we only need Posto with a Raui alt and a Big one apart

[hollow furnace]

Diatryma is a whole mess assuming its valid tbh

Like the messel pit Gastornis would be considered a Diatryma species

[austere sparrow]

Fucking whack

So I guess Gastornis just might as well cease to exist if Diatryma becomes valid again, then?

[hollow furnace]

kinda, yeah

This is effectively the phylogeny, with the Gastornis type species highlighted

[slim flare]

So looks like Diatryma is paraphyletic?

[hollow furnace]

No Diatryma is monophyletic

Gastornis is paraphyletic if Diatryma is distinct though

[slim flare]

Ok but Diatryma has to be lumped to keep Gastornis monophyletic

[hollow furnace]

Or Gastornis has to be split up further

[slim flare]

Yeah I guess

[ancient ibex]

Gastornis also has stuff across 16 million years and 2 epochs

[slim flare]

What a badass

[left spear]

If that's a badass then Hybodus must straight Up be mythical

[hollow flower]

Wait so is gastornis still large or is that Diatryma now

[hollow furnace]

it's still large, but the popular conception species of Gastornis (G. giganteus) would be a Diatryma species (D. gigantea)

But again, still a very big bird:

[slim flare]

Tbh Hybodus was cut down a lot

[hollow furnace]

Lepidotes too

On the subject of former wastebasket extinct fish

[silver steeple]

Our Lord and Savior

[flint sable]

ye

I hope they end up like those

because those guys were basically glorified terrariums

even the full sized enclosures

[modern totem]

oh yes, a fellow brachytrachelopan enjoyer

[flint sable]

looks a lot like SIvalorhynchus

[austere sparrow]

Ugh, fucking chat back at it, begging for generic Saurolophines again 🙄

[slim flare]

Maiasaura, Saurolophus 💪

[austere sparrow]

Sivalorhynchus is much sexier than either of those

[slim flare]

But ones a milf and the other is the horniest Saurolophine

[flint sable]

indeed

dont forget his brother either

Cotytherium

his brother humphrey

[austere sparrow]

😒 Ugh what an ugly Dicynodont

[hollow flower]

Burnetian

[hollow furnace]

Dicynodont, can't you see the horns? It's clearly a Dinocephalian

[austere sparrow]

Hm. Clearly

[left spear]

This is actually a dinocephalian

[hollow furnace]

that's a chameleon

[toxic oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/pee-panicking-what-terrified-gif-15348578

[slim flare]

I hope they shadow-drop Therizinosaurus in U19

Come on, it’s one of the animals Nigel went after

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490595074929983489/1406430125926514708/RPReplay_Final1755389414.mov?ex=68a26fa0&is=68a11e20&hm=64dccb1d526e10391f2384f0373f49b85508837bd447cafa1633828ce5b15955&

[plush nacelle]

Theri with insectivorous smaller alt in u19

Trust, launch needs popular animals to bring attention

Megatherium, kelenken, doedicurus, carnotaurus, utahraptor, therizinosaurus would be huge coming all at once

[steep tulip]

I mean it would be great but there are 2 insectivores
Unless you are implying that theri also is an insectivore

Not sure if they will go that route
We only have one other animal listed as an insectivore as its main diet, I think it's something that really only eats mainly insects and other small critters

Could also be other 2 minis

[lean hound]

I doubt that

[steep tulip]

That said tho

There are a bit too many herbivore slots, and I very much doubt megatherium and doedicurus are getting alts

So its possible that theri is getting in regardless

But imo it's unrelated to the insectivore thing

[lean hound]

Yeah theri would probably be in the herbi slot

[steep tulip]

Now watch how we gonna get eremotherium and eleutherocercus after I said that

Eremotherium is a lot of work for an alt tho, like kinda defeats the whole point of alt genera

[left spear]

Megatherium as a herbi sounds weird tbh

Would rather have It as a frugi

Tbh wouldn't mind if It was only a frugi

[plush nacelle]

Megatherium would be straight up herbivore and nothing else

[left spear]

Boring, force It on the avocado only diet

[low bridge]

We need Discokeryx

And Tylocephalonyx

Dome headed weirdos

[plush nacelle]

I can see it eating fruits for diversity sake just like mammoth is

[ancient ibex]

Covered by the plant diet

[final quest]

I can’t think of any game that has a megaraptor like maip

[lean hound]

Path of titans

[quaint plank]

Jackson’s chameleon if I’m remembering the right species

[flint sable]

Avocado's are fruit though

[austere sparrow]

Hot take, Plant diet should be split into branches, leaves and grasses

[low bridge]

Hmm which cool mammals were in Paraceratherium Bugtiense formation??

[plush nacelle]

Tbh with enrichment serving hay I would be fine with leaves and such being enrichment items for plant diet

[ancient ibex]

Frugivore animals tend to go after sugary ones

Pumpkins are fruits

[steep tulip]

Yeah avocados are very weird as fruits

Very oily in a way

[silver steeple]

I feel like graze and browse is enough of a distinction if they want to do that route

[austere sparrow]

Fair

[ancient ibex]

Tall feeders are a thing already

[digital pendant]

just like olives in that regard

savory and oily

[modern totem]

Marvin casually using his reality bending powers, as usual.

[desert flame]

Mononyx may return in update 19.

[steep tulip]

mononyx in u16, mononykus in u19

[desert flame]

It was planned to be added in Update 16 but was cancelled.

[plush nacelle]

Theri herbivore and smaller alt insectivore

Then another insectivore being either another small theri or random theropod and missing herbivore spot taken by macrauchenia

[neat iris]

Theri is a must

Probably my most wanted dino

[shell sonnet]

It's a popular choice and almost certainly going to make it, but its fragmentary nature holds it back for me

[desert flame]

PK's therizinosaurus

[neat iris]

I’m actually a little surprised we got deinocheirus before theri

[late swallow]

i'm not

[shell sonnet]

Same

[steep tulip]

I honestly find quite likely that macrauchenia in u19 if there is another herbivore, considering devs stated they wanted to add more peculiar mammals and it fits very well with the rest

[neat iris]

Really needs an update

[late swallow]

i'd prefer a smaller therizinosaur

[shell sonnet]

Deinocherius is both more complete and more unique

[late swallow]

big fat humpback goose

[shell sonnet]

Neimongosaurus or Beipiaosaurus or (my personal choice) Falcarius

[plush nacelle]

True. Small theri feels like something most prehistoric zoos would have

[late swallow]

I spy a person of culture

[steep tulip]

baipaiao is pretty big I think

like 9 meter long big

[shell sonnet]

2.2m

[steep tulip]

or was it 7

[hollow furnace]

not that long I think, I think estimates are more like 6 meters

[steep tulip]

ooops yeah

[steep tulip]

apparently a juvenile

[desert flame]

yes
I hope it will be added after EA.

[plush nacelle]

Bring back nothronychus > make one skin big > call it therizinosaurus

[late swallow]

how is Nanshiung?

a more mid sized one woulde be cool too

[shell sonnet]

a neck and back

[plush nacelle]

About nothronychus sized

[late swallow]

i see that here now

and actually that's not a neck and back

https://tenor.com/view/penis-gif-20305526

[shell sonnet]

Can't be, it's missing the tip

[late swallow]

the way this joke would land better is probably for the best to not say

so i'll say it the other way

he's circ

[left spear]

I mean yes, but in the plant diet there's probably like 2 foods Megatherium would actually enjoy, there's no reason to not make It a Frugivore and advertise as mainly that on the roadmap

[shell sonnet]

Big twist: the frugivore in U17 isn't Pachy but Megatherium

[late swallow]

i would laugh my ass off

[golden canopy]

@bonusducks7233 it could honestly really work well as an alt species to the carch

[plush nacelle]

Why. Megatherium was eating mostly browse and sometimes grass. Would be weird for it to be mainly frugivore

[neat iris]

It needs that huge feather tail that it has in things like The Isle and Prehistoric Planet

[plush nacelle]

It was living in more arid and open areas. Eremotherium would encounter fruits more often

[late swallow]

i have a better therizinosaur idea

Paralitherizinosaurus japonicus

[dapper sky]

What about Dodos?

[desert flame]

Dodo is need on dlc.

[feral cedar]

Would the western horse be a good fit for a La Brea pack

[final yarrow]

should have named it Washington Rex

[low bridge]

I need votes

[slim flare]

Western horse doesn’t exist

[slim flare]

Based

[lean hound]

It does in my heart

[plush nacelle]

Then what is la brea horse

[feral cedar]

huh?

[plush nacelle]

Isnt it equus ferus occidentalis?

Wild horse is allegadely going to appear in RE pack so I dont think horse would be mandatory in La brea pack

[slim flare]

@feral cedar @plush nacelle
It’s dubious as fuck and has bern for decades

The species Equus occidentalis Leidy, 1865, was initially described from three teeth recovered from an unknown locality in Tuolomne County and from Asphalto, California; one of the teeth from Tuolomne County, a left P3 (MCZ 9129, currently housed at the Museum of Comparative Zoology, Harvard University) is the lectotype (Gidley, 1901). None of this material is sufficiently diagnostic to warrant specific distinction (Miller, 1971; Winans, 1985; Scott, 2004). The Asphalto specimens have been determined to be derived from a late Pliocene zebra [= Equus (Plesippus)] (Savage, 1951), while the Tuolomne fossil bears close similarity with teeth of large horses from Rancho La Brea (Merriam, 1913). No topotypic material from Tuolomne is available. Equus occidentalis is at present best considered a nomen dubium (following Chorn and Whetstone, 1978) or a nomen vanum (following Mones, 1989). Until the taxonomy and systematic affinities of this large Pleistocene horse are resolved (Scott, in preparation), it is best termed Equus sp. cf. E. occidentalis Leidy, 1865, sensu Merriam, 1913. We refer to this species herein as Equus “occidentalis”.

There’s two equine species known from La Brea: wild horse (Equus ferus) and stilt-legged horse (Haringtonhippus francisci)

[ancient ibex]

Horse should have NA digsites

NGL, so should mammoth

[slim flare]

Eh, not yet for mammoth

I agree wild horse should be recovered in Eurasia and the Americas

[slim flare]

Wait until we have a NA exclusive species that coexisted with woolly mammoth, like short-faced bear

[feral cedar]

Could be Equus ferus occidentalis?

[austere sparrow]

Mammoth can wait with having NA digsites until we get another animal from there that overlapped with its digsites/range, imo

Wooly Mammoth overlapping with Columbian Mammoth (and Arctodus) is hella cool, and there's "The Mammoth Site" right there for mammoth digging

[ancient ibex]

Not gonna make mammoth-exclusive sites in NA ofc, but atm all we have is La Brea

[austere sparrow]

The wooly mammoth wasn't found in La Brea though, was it

Digsites go by presence of species, not genus

[shell sonnet]

No, but the Pacific Mastodon was

[ancient ibex]

Yeah, I'm aware, I wasn't going to suggest primigenius to be found at La Brea

[slim flare]

No, never

It’s dubious

[slim flare]

There might be only one mastodon species tbh

The split was purely based on morphology and genetics has not found support for a second mastodon species, although it has not yet disproven it either.

[austere sparrow]

Did the American Mastodon overlap with the woolly mammoth?

Fuckin' whack

Looking through Paleodb for a bit, while it seem the American Mastodon and Wooly Mammoth definitely overlapped in range, I have yet to find a formation that actually has both

[slim flare]

Yesn’t

You have to remember that overlapping geographic range doesn’t mean they actually overlapped

During interglacial periods mastodon would move North and vice versa, and it’s been hypothesized areas on the border of the range may have alternated seasonally

Did they meet? Yeah, probably, but they definitely favoured differing habitat and climate

[austere sparrow]

That definitely seems to have been the case here 🙃

Fuckin'

Wooly mammoth and American Mastodon matrix dodging each other popping up in formations that are sometimes within biking distance of each other but refusing to ever touch trunks

OH SHIT

[ancient ibex]

Can't quite talk about geological formations when dealing with stuff from a few thousand years ago

[austere sparrow]

Old Crow River Locality has them both

Hershell Island should also have them both but for some reason has multiple entries for the same-ish area

[ancient ibex]

FWIW, while the woolly mammoth is a tundra specialist, I wouldn't be too surprised at occasional overlap

[austere sparrow]

These goofy goobers meeting in the tippy-top-tip of Canada

Hershell Island also has Bison priscus so. That's another animal that might have a chance of addition (somehow)

[ancient ibex]

TTBT, a rework of the game areas would be neat; right now, stuff from Alaska gets a bonus if paired with Arizonan stuff, but not with Canadian or far Siberian stuff...

[austere sparrow]

...Well, Pauline Cove does, anyway

[austere sparrow]

Animals caring about modern country borders for some reason will go from mildly baffling to utterly asinine if we ever somehow get a Hawaian enclosure animal

[low bridge]

We need Homotherium

Tough cat

Good kitty

[austere sparrow]

I mean

Do we?

[low bridge]

No i need, Smilodon Fatalis needs tough opponent in game

[ancient ibex]

Hell Creek and Horseshoe Canyon, for instance...

[austere sparrow]

American Lion?

[austere sparrow]

Lmao oof

[hollow furnace]

And dinosaur park is basically right in the middle of the two

[ancient ibex]

Same as Las Hoyas vs the Wealden complex, there is overlapping fauna (as there is today); Spain vs UK in terms of region may not be too good versus "Europe"

[neat iris]

I hope they either stick to this roster or add the passenger pigeon to it

[plush nacelle]

Going back to horse, would it be animal with the most in game skins?

[austere sparrow]

Not sure what you mean by that?

Spinosaurus has four so that's the record you have to unseat

[left spear]

Why would a horse not have only 3 skins

It's a horse

Give It the Quagga alt, a prehsbkdjejfkisjekjd Horse skin and a original one.

[plush nacelle]

There are many different patterns we know about

[wild relic]

Would be cool if some animals from my home state Washington would be in PK, it be cool to see some of its animals brought to life

[austere sparrow]

If you count skins by genus and assume horse will get two different entries (which seems unlikely considering prehistoric horses do exist) that would likely still result in just tying with Mammuthus