Community Species Suggestions

[austere sparrow]

Dinopithecus, first mammoth of the imperial fleet

[neat iris]

Gigantopithecus plz devs

[low bridge]

Stegotetrabelodon is good elephant to put into game

[tidal estuary]

We have gone beyond 30k messages

[neat iris]

There are a lot of awesome prehistoric primates, and I’d be happy with any of them in the game, but gigantopithecus is the only one I legitimately want.

[mint gust]

Sivatherium

[neat iris]

Yes, same situation there

Lot of cool prehistoric giraffes, but if we only ever get one, I hope it’s that one

[late swallow]

Orange gorilla

[neat iris]

Big monke

King Louie

Possible explanation for the yeti, according to David Attenborough and some scientists

[left spear]

I refuse to belive that anyone Who wants Giganto over Dino knows what Giganto actually is

[late swallow]

Orange gorilla, but closer related to modern Orangutan

That's all it is

Also why does my phone want to put a hyphen in that

[plush nacelle]

Archaeolemur is chad choice. Lemur convergently evolved to reasemble baboons

[neat iris]

I already knew

[flint sable]

I mean

Dinopithicus is just a larger baboon

probably wasnt even that carnivorous

I think both would be worse than basically any extinct lemur

way more unique

[flint sable]

only like 20% larger than the largest modern baboons iirc

[shell sonnet]

Orang-utan is a valid spelling

To be frank, neither Dino nor Giganto really excite me as far as primates go. Rather have something more basal and different rather than just "large version of modern day animal" (also one that we more of than just some skull parts)

[flint sable]

FR

like giant lemurs

check both of the boxes

I mean

they are essentially a larger version of a modern animal

but they are more distinctive than Gigantopithicus and Dinopithicus

[plush nacelle]

I am reading it was better suited for fruit consumption than average baboon

[digital pendant]

Tbf dinopithecus can be made interesting. Baboons have a lot of cool features so there is a lot of creative room for dinopithecus skins

Primates in general have more room to play with in terms of designs while keeping it believable

[silver steeple]

Wouldn't be shocked if we got something with a touch of mandrill inspo if we get Dinopithecus

Also y'all act like most zoos that have monkeys even have great apes lmao

[plush nacelle]

This why we need small basal monke

In terrarium

[neat iris]

You mean like Darwinius?

[plush nacelle]

Something in lines

[flint sable]

I think mini primates are realistically our best bet yeah

[plush nacelle]

Darwinius getting bonus points for really good formation

[flint sable]

definitely

[plush nacelle]

Some sort of gibbon-like basal ape also would be nice

People love gibbons

[neat iris]

What about crocodilians?

[low bridge]

Godinotia, Apidium

[plush nacelle]

Borealosuchus is my underrated pick. Can have alt both from mesozoic and cenozoic

[neat iris]

Idk about you guys, but deinosuchus and sarcosuchus are really high on my list

[severe spindle]

Mahajangasuchus from the same Formation as Simosuchus would be cool as dlc

[plush nacelle]

One borealosuchus for maastrichtian dinos, second for early horses, uintatherium and such

[austere sparrow]

You say that as if it's not a proud zoo game tradition to pretend that non-ape primates do not exist

"Zoo game fans shun new world primates and birds, and if you tell them about land invertebrates they laugh at you!"

[slim flare]

Name one?

[flint sable]

Planet Zoo

up untill fairly recently anyway

[plush nacelle]

3 years without single monkey

[flint sable]

there was one new world monkey

[plush nacelle]

Wait no. It was more than 3 years. March 2021 to October 2024

3.5

[austere sparrow]

Jurassic Park Operation Genesis

But seriously tho

Most zoo games managed like. At least one baboon. usually the mandrill. Maybe the ringtailed lemur. But usually that's it

Planet Zoo is actually among the best ones in that regard

It had a crazy primate sabbatical but like. At least it had like. One New World Primate before that started

Like damn; monkeys have crazy diversity and aggressively non-shabby zoo presence, and yet

...Actually that reminds me PZ had the fucking. Proboscis monkey of all animals early on

Wildass pick

Someone really left the modern animal equivalent of EZ in charge that day

[plush nacelle]

This is not chat for this, but you probably couldnt name better pick than it lmao. Southeast asian monkeys are simply not really common in captivity

Unless you wanted another macaque then sure

[late swallow]

I'm partial to sarco

[steep tulip]

Mahajangasuchus as kaprosuchus alt

Unfortunately only way I see we are going to get it

[late swallow]

I can easily hit you with an uhm achtually here

[plush nacelle]

Hit

[late swallow]

Borealosuchus isn't a Crocodylian

[plush nacelle]

Oh no

[slim flare]

Probably because they’re so arboreal and relatively small

[late swallow]

Eusuchian

[plush nacelle]

Looks croc enough to me

[late swallow]

Same

Also do you wanna fix your page Wikipedia

[slim flare]

I hope after RE DLC they do a Palaeozoic one

[late swallow]

Real

What are some names on your list?

[slim flare]

I do wonder what the post-EA species outlook will be

[steep tulip]

I hope we get some free species for a paleozoic dlc

"Paleozoic dlc" its gonna be permian only I think lol

[slim flare]

RE is presumably the first and afaik only confirmed DLC, and paid

They also said non-paid updates will continue for at least a while, presumably filling back in the cut EA roster

[late swallow]

Maybe some earlier terrarium species

[flint sable]

ye

I imagine that essentially everything before the permian would have to be a terrarium species

[late swallow]

Holding out hope for my homies

[slim flare]

Dimetrodon is kinda confirmed as a non-DLC species

[flint sable]

especially in terms of land critters

[austere sparrow]

Paleozoic DLC should probably wait until after aquatics have been figured out ngl

[flint sable]

definitely

[steep tulip]

Why

Oh wait

Paleozoic

[flint sable]

you can do a Permian one before that I think, but if your gonna do the entire Paleozoic you need aquatics

[late swallow]

Like the only thing I can think of that wouldn't be is Aegirocassis

[flint sable]

at least IMO

[austere sparrow]

If you want a separate Permian DLC then call it the Permian DLC

[plush nacelle]

Imagine trying to fit entire paleozoic into presumably 8 slots

[steep tulip]

Well I sure hope we get permian animals before that

[slim flare]

A billion species and no patience

[late swallow]

Opabinia, Tullimonstrum, Anomalocaris canadensis, a hope beyond hope for Mosura fentoni

[steep tulip]

Dimetrodon edaphosaurus and diplocaulus for base game

[late swallow]

What were those tree fungi

Those things

I want those

[silver steeple]

Prototaxites?

[late swallow]

Yes

[silver steeple]

Not a fungi

Some weird eukaryote offshoot

[austere sparrow]

Close enough to fungi

[late swallow]

This is why I called them fungi, it's how I learned of them

[steep tulip]

Paleozoic flora and prototaxites would go hard

[steep tulip]

The paper that found them to be unrelated to anything else is pretty recent
Maybe they link to it

[late swallow]

And maybe some gymnosperm scrubland plants?

[silver steeple]

Yes because they were considered to be such since they were discovered basically

[silver steeple]

If you just search for prototaxites in #science-chat it's there

[slim flare]

Right now my goal is probably first and foremost to reinstate every missing EA species that was solidified. They were all good picks and I was expecting them, so I want them back. Judging by the original post-EA list and other things they said, they probably will.

Second is get the last few JPOG species with no equivalent in game, like Deinonychus, Albertosaurus and Kentrosaurus. Others like Corythosaurus and Torosaurus would be cool, but I get it.

And finally the handful of species that are unique but fall outside those two categories, like Therizinosaurus or Armagasaurus.

This is just for dinosaurs (besides the first part), all other clades are way more complex and hard to define because they’re simply barely or not present.

[silver steeple]

Idk about "all" but heyo

[slim flare]

For the EA species? Yeah ALL

[austere sparrow]

Deinonychus isn't a JPOG species tho?

Like. It was planned but it didn't make it into the final game

[silver steeple]

Nothro

[plush nacelle]

Even him

[slim flare]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-gorilla-kikuohh-evil-spongebob-dayvariousthompson-cumber-gif-1433328210797566014

[silver steeple]

👎

[slim flare]

The solidified list

[silver steeple]

So minus the 4

[austere sparrow]

We're really going to give Nothro of all animals shit? 😭

[slim flare]

Not counting Yang, Deinonychus, Sauropelta, Tenontosaurus, Thescelosaurus and Nothro

[silver steeple]

Gotcha

Then yeah all is fair

[silver steeple]

Yes

[slim flare]

Tenontosaurus goes in category three

Highly unique

[silver steeple]

Better theris all around

[plush nacelle]

PK discord is really weird for that ngl

[austere sparrow]

Nothro might make a good Therizinosaurus alt. Considering like, they're gonna use it as the base for the reconstruction, probably, and Theri is gonna be the main one

[silver steeple]

Very fair actually

The old Tenonto didn't do the animal justice ngl

[slim flare]

Correct

[austere sparrow]

Most Tenonto depictions don't

[silver steeple]

After seeing Mutta and Ourano tho, they could make Tenonto shine

[slim flare]

I also would enjoy pretty much any inclusion of a species that was pre-EA with concept art or model though

[outer crater]

We need edmontonia

[austere sparrow]

We do?

I want more of the goddamn mammals

[slim flare]

Edmontonia is Category 1 and hopefully in U19

[silver steeple]

I do think we should get a nodosaur

Whether that's Edmontonia or something else idrc

[plush nacelle]

U19 theri + nothro alt, trust

[austere sparrow]

I would prefer getting a Nodosaur that looks less like a budget Ankylosaur but that's just me I guess 😔

[slim flare]

Morrison isn’t complete until we also get the two species in concept art but never modeled; Ornitholestes and Camptosaurus

[silver steeple]

Campto def

Ornitholestes I could do without but would like

[slim flare]

I want a small Morrison theropod, Ornitholestes has name recognition in the paleo crowd and is afaik relatively complete

[silver steeple]

Morrison feels weirdly empty for being the most populated fm in the game

[steep tulip]

Ornitho gotta be the most coelurosaur ever

[austere sparrow]

Big Dryosaurus is definitely needed

[silver steeple]

It's missing like literally any herbivores between Dryo and Camara

Stego is coming

Which will help

But Stego is so much larger than Dryo lol

[slim flare]

It’s probably because rn species fall into three groups: big sauropod, big theropod, small ornithopod

[silver steeple]

Yep

[slim flare]

In the future it’ll have Stego but that’s it

[silver steeple]

I made a giant Morrison exhibit last night

And like it just feels shockingly empty

[slim flare]

Cerato and Allo are big theropod
Diplodocus is big sauropod

[steep tulip]

Wouldn't mind getting one of the ankys from morrison tbh

[silver steeple]

Despite having over 25 sauropods of various sizes

[slim flare]

The only species outside the Morrison concept art I advocate for is an Ankylosaur

[silver steeple]

Gargoyleo would be neat

[austere sparrow]

Gargoyleo sweep tbh

[slim flare]

But I want the others first

[silver steeple]

Please give us a FF inspired skin if Gargoyleo gets in

[plush nacelle]

Gargoyleo is like 2033 addition in random DLC

[slim flare]

Do Dryosaurus stick around sauropods yet or is that still just planned?

[steep tulip]

Still planned

[austere sparrow]

No Ankylosaurs on the Morrison concept

Also damn I hope that Torvosaurus skin comes back

[slim flare]

I was hoping the last log would talk more about upcoming behavior as Mau made a big deal about expanding it after herding

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-god-of-war-knees-gods-gif-17928519

[slim flare]

That’s what I said

[austere sparrow]

Oh right

Misread your intent

[steep tulip]

I think it got shafted to next year

We heard about it st the start of the year when u17 was still planned for this year

And nothing else after that

U16 already full of stuff

[austere sparrow]

Is U16 the current one, or the upcoming one with all the mini exhibits

[steep tulip]

The upcoming one

[slim flare]

I’m still unsure which of the big digsites will be the best ecosystem

[late swallow]

#science-chat message

Still awaiting peer review and publishing, so we'll see if it has legs to stand

[plush nacelle]

The one with small animals

[steep tulip]

Hell creek if they add non dino stuff too

I find it harder to place in my park all big species

[plush nacelle]

Yixian with just psittaco breeding like rabbit and yutyrannus being the only predator

[slim flare]

I meant with confirmed species

[steep tulip]

I usually do a couple as the "core" and then the smaller one around

[steep tulip]

Oh
Probably morrison

[late swallow]

I'm kinda shocked P. sp. Made it?

[steep tulip]

Then

[austere sparrow]

Definitely Morrison

[late swallow]

What the hell are we talking abt rn

[austere sparrow]

Like. Who even contends. Hell Creek? Dinosaur Park?

[slim flare]

Morrison would be sauropodlet eating simulator

[austere sparrow]

Most ecosystem-adjacent Formation roster

[slim flare]

Morrison
Hell Creek
Mammoth steppe

[late swallow]

5-9 different sauropods lmao

[steep tulip]

Hell creek will have
trex trike edmonto anky pachy
Maybe didelphodon and maybe denversaurus

[slim flare]

3

[late swallow]

Morrison had at least 5 genera of sauropods

[slim flare]

I would only do one species per group, especially as most probably didn’t coexist

[steep tulip]

4

[late swallow]

Just throwing numbers out?

[steep tulip]

Unless one of the camara species becomes its own genus

[late swallow]

/gneq

[slim flare]

Didelphodon is a mini-exhibit

[austere sparrow]

What are you on about lol Morrison already has four genera

[slim flare]

I’m not doing alts

[late swallow]

4ingame

[slim flare]

Bronto is just an alt of Apato

[steep tulip]

Ingame yes
Irl it has way more obviously

[late swallow]

But giv dippy

[plush nacelle]

Idk. Maybe djadochta? Velociraptor just eating fast breeding oviraptor babes

[steep tulip]

I know, but you can sorta mix them together

[late swallow]

What the hell is being discussed

I'm lost

[steep tulip]

Best big formation at the end of ea

[late swallow]

Ah

[steep tulip]

Or something like that

[slim flare]

And Protoceratops

[austere sparrow]

The alt system is so funny these days ngl. Just looks like the devs randomly decided to give some animals only one skin, and Ursus of all choices was worthy of three, and then there's just. Spinosaurus who randomly has four

[silver steeple]

Just like real life

[late swallow]

Leave my son alone

[steep tulip]

The ursus hate

[austere sparrow]

Spinosaurus?

[late swallow]

Yeah

[austere sparrow]

I will never stop Ursus hating, sorry 😔

[late swallow]

He's my son

[hollow flower]

Endoceras and The Jaek™

[late swallow]

I've grown to love U. Spelaeus

And I can fucking spell it now

[outer crater]

How would it come back?

[austere sparrow]

"The bear does not concern itself with the opinion of sheep", the Ursus defenders mutter

[silver steeple]

And all 4 are fire

[austere sparrow]

Concept used for a different animal

[late swallow]

Real

Sobek leuc

[steep tulip]

Ignoring the ursus slander
All the animals with 4 skins are very famous ones
Some others could have got it, but oh well

[hollow flower]

That torvo skin seems to have metamorphosed into the gurneyi one we have now

[flint sable]

"the rock does not concern itself with the opinions of gods" -me

[ancient ibex]

I mean, the species was named in 1910, but got its own genus in 1997, that's fine

[hollow flower]

which is ashame because the current one I really dislike

[left spear]

Oh i agree either way Archaeo clears any primate by a mile, would say top 15 of my most wanted animals period

[steep tulip]

Alts are just a way for the devs to give us similar animals without having to make 3 different skins for each of them

[austere sparrow]

Maybe? Lacks the shag tho

[late swallow]

It's the fact the type species is still notated as Leidyosuchus

[flint sable]

the color pattern is very similar

[flint sable]

they do that

[left spear]

What's the current convo about

[ancient ibex]

Yeah, that's proper

[austere sparrow]

Ursus

[steep tulip]

It was supposed to be what's gonna be the best big formation at the end of ea

[hollow flower]

All over the place

[left spear]

I can tell just by what Rebecca and angery said lol

[steep tulip]

The 3 contenders are morrison hell creek and mammoth steppe

[flint sable]

mau is gonna say something mineblowing tommorow gys trust

it came to me in a dream

[steep tulip]

Cotylorhynchus ea confirmed

[austere sparrow]

Mau: "Your mom"

[steep tulip]

Finally

[flint sable]

he said to me

and I quote

[plush nacelle]

Best for working ecosystem. I am starting to think djadochta will be the one

[left spear]

Long ass quotation

[flint sable]

"coty and sivatherium will come in U19 and will be able to hybridize, and nigel is going to watch."

[steep tulip]

🐧 🚬

Damn

[flint sable]

what does the smoking penguin emoji mean

[left spear]

That's deep

(i have no idea)

[steep tulip]

I'm too lazy to find the fish smoking gif and the penguin is the only animal that faces the right direction to smoke the cigarette

What does the smoking fish mean?
Up to interpretation

[left spear]

Btw disturbing lack of Atopodentatus and Lepidotes in that quote, It leads me to belive it's false

[flint sable]

yeah no

immediately after that he also said

[left spear]

Convenient ain't it

Smh about this false prophet

[flint sable]

"lepidotes and adopodentatus comes later, but nigel will not watch"

[steep tulip]

Not enough spectacle

[left spear]

Yeah we need more teeth

Add pterodaustro too

[flint sable]

time to get the dinosaur with 500 of them

[neat iris]

When are we gonna get the Cretaceous sifakas that coexisted with Iguanodon

[flint sable]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-nigersaurus-nigersaurus-dinosaur-dinosaurs-makesweet-gif-1243553696292569083

[left spear]

Troodon right

[flint sable]

troodon has one

[steep tulip]

Jw plot would have lasted 2 minutes if they brought this mf in

[neat iris]

Nigersaurus and amargasaurus would be perfect for small sauropod rep

[left spear]

Indom should have been a hybrid between Niger and giga

[steep tulip]

Giant vacuum cleaner

[plush nacelle]

Giga body with niger head

[neat iris]

The ultimate hybrid

[plush nacelle]

Or better, giga head on niger body

[austere sparrow]

That's literally just giant Pelecanimimus

[left spear]

that was not the joke lol but i don't want AD to lobotomice me so i'm not going to explain it

[austere sparrow]

Say it

Say it.

[left spear]

It ain't even that funny in retrospective

But mix the names

[steep tulip]

I can smell it
I don't like where this is going

[left spear]

Yeah let's switch topic

[austere sparrow]

Run real fast so the consequences of your actions don't catch up to you 😔

[left spear]

Call me the flash

Yeah sorry the 16 year old humor catched Up to me

[neat iris]

Cretaceous sifakas plz devs

[left spear]

Huh the things from disneys dinosaur are actually real

?

[neat iris]

https://tenor.com/view/yar-lemur-dinosaur-scoff-eye-roll-gif-21890208

I will never understand the decision to put modern lemurs in a movie about dinosaurs

[left spear]

They needed something with face expressions ig

[hollow flower]

okay but lowkey what would that have been had they not put in literal lemurs

[austere sparrow]

I believe they're modern sifakas

[slim flare]

Lemurs are primitive!

[left spear]

Purgatorius if It had been discovered before ig

[austere sparrow]

Which are like. Still a recent group. But at least lemurs I guess

Sifakas aren't 😭

[neat iris]

Any mammal from the Cretaceous period would have made more sense, but idk how many of them had actually been discovered by that point

[hollow flower]

Considering most olden day expeditions were made in search of mammals rather than dinosaurs, I imagine a few

[neat iris]

But anyway

[slim flare]

Dinosaur came out in 2000

[neat iris]

Back to the topic of this channel

[fresh ember]

They deadass said Cretaceous mammals looked "hideous."

[steep tulip]

💀

Didelphodon ain't that bad come on

[slim flare]

Still love the WWD Didelphodon trash panda

[austere sparrow]

Talking mad shit for the people who designed lipped Iguanodon

[steep tulip]

Fr

With the beak under it

[slim flare]

And Tyrannosaurus-robustness Carnotaurus

[steep tulip]

I can't get over it

[neat iris]

They also tried putting beaks on the iguanodons, but they didn’t like how it looked when they talk

[austere sparrow]

I love how stupid it is

[slim flare]

The Velociraptor was nice tho

[steep tulip]

They still have the beak, it's just covered by the lips 😭

[austere sparrow]

The only time naked Velociraptor got to show its shiny ass

[steep tulip]

Agreed

[slim flare]

It’s cool between CBD and Disney’s Dinosaur we got two pretty anatomically accurate featherless real Velociraptor

Instead of Deinonychus

[austere sparrow]

Deinonychus more like. Deisgusting

[steep tulip]

The pachy and styraco weren't half bad either

[austere sparrow]

The background styracos weren't. The old lady Styrac who was a main character, though... Fuckin' damn

Not sure why they did her so dirty, the old lady Brachiosaur worked just fine with minimal changes

[neat iris]

Points for including some more obscure dino species, minus points for some other decisions

[steep tulip]

My mind refused to acknowledge her as a styracosaur lol

[austere sparrow]

Shoutout to being one of the few properties willing to show Styracosaurus without giving it brow horns

[neat iris]

Hot take: the cgi aged a little better than most people say, although the live action backgrounds may have helped with that.

[austere sparrow]

Nah see this animal is from Djadochta it's clearly Adasaurus

[slim flare]

Djadochta has Velociraptor

[austere sparrow]

The fuck

[slim flare]

Silly willy

[austere sparrow]

Wait I meant Nemegt

[slim flare]

Too late

[austere sparrow]

Sorry Mongolia just has too many formations

[slim flare]

Besides Protoceratops is in the episode too

[austere sparrow]

Clearly. Uh. Nemegtoceratops

[steep tulip]

I like how most of the dinosaur in the movie are campanian/maastrichtian and then you got brachiosaurus iguanodon longisquama thrown in there

[austere sparrow]

I love how they felt the need to justify the presence of one dinosaur, and it wasn't even one of the time travellers

[steep tulip]

Which one

[austere sparrow]

"Damn what's this South American weirdo doing up here"
The Mongolian, Bri'ish and African immigrants: 😰
Koolasuchus: 😱

Carnotaurus

[steep tulip]

I forgot about the koolasuchus lol

What did they say to justify it

[neat iris]

Pros: obscure dinos, decent cgi mixed with live action backgrounds (even though it pretty much had to be done that way because it still wasn’t possible to make fully realistic cgi backgrounds yet), good voice acting, James Newton Howard’s score (unironically some of the best I’ve heard anywhere)

Cons: lemurs in the Cretaceous (why?), meh dialogue, generic trope characters, beefed up carnotaurus instead of literally any theropod that was actually built like that, fucking Zini

[steep tulip]

The pixar dinosaur one got it worse
Forgot how it was even called

A lot of cool scrapped stuff

[austere sparrow]

Jurassic World fans complaining about Xavier; meanwhile us real OGs grew up with fucking Zini

[late swallow]

The Good Dinosaur (2015)

[austere sparrow]

"The Good Dinosaur?"

Awfully ironic title

[steep tulip]

Yeah that one

[neat iris]

Franklin is worse than Xavier

[austere sparrow]

Who was Franklin again

[steep tulip]

It had coyote dimetrodon, a furry tropeognathus and feathered raptors at some point

[austere sparrow]

Was that the Baryonyx kid

[neat iris]

Gorgeous realistic backgrounds mixed with Yoshi-ahh character designs

[austere sparrow]

I feel like that's an insult to Yoshi

[neat iris]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-franklin-webb-how-is-this-better-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-jurassic-park-gif-26414509

[austere sparrow]

Yoshi after two years on meth, maybe

[austere sparrow]

Bary boy

I was too busy being annoyed at the ass-looking LAVAPROOF Baryonyx to care about his. Honestly fair reaction to it

And he wasn't really around much outside of that scene

...Didn't the next movie make him like. A fucking FBI guy of all things

[late swallow]

they kept Franklin in the DPG iirc

but this

is entirely derailed

[low bridge]

Who love Mammals in Prehistoric Kingdom????

Especially Panthera,Elasmo, Megaloceros, Sinotherium,Juxia

[sharp dock]

Yes i love the pk mammals, the whole five of them

[low bridge]

Imagine Aenocyon Dirus in game named: Fenrir

Or Epicyon named: Cerber

🫣

[austere sparrow]

Or Dusocyon named: Pineapple

[shell sonnet]

this is incorrect

[short rover]

Kid named finger:

[waxen grail]

What about humans?

[lost magnet]

Deinosuchus, Purussaurus, Sebecus, Barinasuchus, Baurusuchus, Simosuchus, Notosuchus, Armadillosuchus, Anatosuchus, Ihakutosuchus, Varanosuchus, Mahajangasuchus, Terrestrisuchus, Carnufex, Protosuchus, Lemmysuchus, Dakosaurus, Teleosaurus, Machimosaurus, Metriorhynchus and/or Torvoneustes

And oh, Stomatosuchus for sure

But if we're talking Crocodylia specifically, gimme a Mekosuchus, Voay, Siquisiquesuchus and Quinkana too

[lean hound]

I just had a dream a new mammal was accidentally added to pk in the ptb

It was like a mix of an entelodont and a hyena and a juvenile was hunting a Smilodon fatalis

[austere sparrow]

Andrewsarchus? 🤔

[lean hound]

No

[winter willow]

Is it kind of weird that I want to see some animals alive today which were around in pretty much the same form when the dinosaurs lived? Largely because it provides perspective. Like, the crocodile is pretty much the perfect lifeform when you consider that it hasn't changed at all in tens of millions of years, because it hasn't had to

[lean hound]

They have

[low bridge]

Hope that Devs will add some serious weirdos like Platybelodon, Arsinoitherium, Megacerops, Aepycamelus, Titanotylopus, Eobasileus

[sharp dock]

Kelenken first

[low bridge]

Kelenken with smaller terror bird like Andalgornis

[hollow flower]

I wouldnt use crocodiles for that but yeah

The mighty horseshoe crab is a better example

[wild relic]

Yeah cause the first true crocodiles appeared during the Maastrichtian so they're rather young in terms of appearance

Horseshoe crabs are definitely better because they've been around for 445 million years (250 if referring to modern horseshoe crabs) have changed at all

[ancient ibex]

The croc bodyplan and ecological niche is far older than modern crocs, as pretty much all 4 main branches of living crocodylians originate in the eocene, but we get stuff like Deinosuchus and thoracosaurs not being crown crocodylians yet still being very close

All in all, the evo history of modern crocs is surprisingly close to that of birds in terms of split times, K-Pg survival, late cretaceous assemblages and the like. Major difference is that the neoaves radiation is insane, and 10000 species versus 25 species doesn't compare.

[hollow flower]

I suppose when were talking about crocs being living fossils the case isnt about crocs being ancient but more like the crocodile ecological niche being ancient

Say for example, The Phytosaurs and the Temnospondyls

Speaking of which I would love to see Smilosuchus

[steep tulip]

Yeah

[open heron]

Personally more of a Rutiodon guy but Smilosuchus is decent

[steep tulip]

Tho the crocodilian body plan appeared far before in their lineage

Comparing them to bird does make sense since it happened the same with birds lol

Also doesn't help crocodilians are all kinda the same color so they appear more similar than what they are

[ancient ibex]

Phytosaurs are to crocs what pterosaurs are to birds pretty much (when phytosaurs are croc-line rather than stem-archosaurs)

[ancient ibex]

Well...

[steep tulip]

Alligator are one of the exceptions imo
But if you take a caiman and compare it to a crocodile, they got very similar pattern even tho they have differently shaped snouts
Doubt most people are able to tell
Banded tail, spotted underside with brownish/green color
Ig it just works for them

[left spear]

Also Cuvier caimans

[digital pendant]

Lmao what

Caiman are super different than the other crocodiles

And me being from a place with both crocodiles and caimans, trust me, people here do know the difference

There is an obvious size difference but you cant tell me these are identical animals.

Both coexist in their ranges btw

[steep tulip]

I didn't say they aren't
I said they all follow the general pattern and coloration on their body

[digital pendant]

Also you say that as if a shit ton of birds arent the same look but a slight shade difference

[steep tulip]

They are

[digital pendant]

Well ofc they do when they all have a similar role. Comparing the entire thing to birds is weird because you are comparing a group with a very specific set of environmental requirements and niche vs an entire legion of niches and diets

[outer moth]

They look like such best buds here, I love it

[austere sparrow]

Shoutout to the false gharial and the dwarf crocodile for trying to kickstart crocodile coloration diversity

[steep tulip]

But if you compare a eagle to idk a vulture
Most people are able to tell them apart
Birds are very easy to the eye so little differences stand out a lot more
Crocodilians have a lot going on, and even tho a crocodile and a caiman are more anatomically different from an eagle and a vulture, its harder to tell them apart
The average person can't tell them apart unless they know where to look
That's all Im saying

[ancient ibex]

Crocs and gators treat each other as cospecifics, with all that entains

[digital pendant]

Let me guess, you live in a place without crocs right?

Basing your perception of what people tell apart on your surroundings will skew what others do know to tell apart

Perhaps not to a genus level because thats just quirky, but people do know how to tell apart the animals that are near them

[austere sparrow]

Crocs go V and Alligatos go U and Caimans go inbetween and gharials go II

They should invent a croc that goes W

[digital pendant]

One with a broken snout 😅

[ancient ibex]

Florida has gators and crocs (and a few other invasive crocodilians because rich guys with pets), the Caribbean-Amazon part of South America has all the caimans and a few crocs, as AD can confirm

[digital pendant]

Yeah we got 6 species here in Venezuela lol

Croc land

Brazil beats us by one 😔

[ancient ibex]

Well... kinda complicated

[steep tulip]

I mean yeah
But most people don't live near them
Like caimans are in a single continent
The average us citizen knows none about it, neither does the average person in europe, neither does the person in china or japan or whatever
I never said they were the same, I simply stated why I thought for most they all look the same

[open heron]

it's still considerably redder/oranger than other crocodilians so I feel like it's apt.

[ancient ibex]

Those are 3 different species

Not each other's closest relative fwiw

[open heron]

yea and the tomistoma's the reddest one

[ancient ibex]

It mostly has to do with the water they live in

[digital pendant]

Crocs in general will blend with their environment

Black caiman live deep in the amazon where the water is dark

[ancient ibex]

Longirostrines will veer green, alligatoroids will veer black

[ancient ibex]

Gotta love how black caimans are pretty much caimans going "what if we made our own Mississipi alligator?"

[steep tulip]

The average person also can't tell apart the vast majority of birds, that's also true
But even if you know none about birds I think for people its easier to tell apart a robin to a sparrow due the former brighter coloration

[ancient ibex]

Which robin and which sparrow

[open heron]

Well yeah one's a pirate and one's a superhero that's obvious.

[ancient ibex]

Because American robins aren't robins, and American sparrows aren't sparrows

[steep tulip]

European

[ancient ibex]

This never gets old

[steep tulip]

Hawks and eagles get confused a ton
And falcons too
Same deal as with the crocs more or less

[digital pendant]

Bird naming convention moment

Gotta love it

[ancient ibex]

Eagles and hawks aren't really separate

Like frogs and toads

Vultures are an ecomorph and evolved 3 times within accipitrimorph raptors

Hell, a raptorial lifestyle may be the telluravian ancestral condition and thus coraciiform and psittacopasserean birds may be derived raptors

Birds are weird

[steep tulip]

I know but for me it seems easy to tell apart a honey buzzard from a black kite, while the average person just see something decently big with a sharp beak and calls it hawk/eagle
Kind of

[ancient ibex]

And that brings me to my next point, teratorns would rock by when the game gets flying animal support

[steep tulip]

Agreed

[digital pendant]

Tbf we are also the worst group to talk about what the average person knows or doesnt because we are people interested in the subject matter

We will fall into an average person category in other topics by some people

[ancient ibex]

Culturally speaking, crocs and gators/caimans being separate things is a widespread concept, of "those are similar but different animals"

[digital pendant]

Dont think hyper focusing on what the average person knows or doesnt affects it that much really (trying to stir it back to this game)

[steep tulip]

Yeah true lol

[digital pendant]

I knew jack shit of the prehistoric animals that i first saw in previous video games lmao

I remember seeing homalocephale on jpog and being tf is that

[open heron]

I mean people mention it every five seconds when anyone mentions how well known an animal is specifically in the context of the paleo community.

[digital pendant]

Why are you crossing it?

[ancient ibex]

I believe Stokesosaurus was the sole species I first learned about from a zoo sim

[digital pendant]

Its a valid point

[digital pendant]

Haha stoke was certainly a niche choice

[open heron]

The only paleozoo game that actually taught me about new species was probably ZT2 but tbf it did do quite a few.

[ancient ibex]

Wait no nevermind, I played the GBA JP3 Park Builder, that one had plenty of weird stuff; Irritator off the top of my head first learned from it

[digital pendant]

Yeah that one had a lot of obscure animals

[ancient ibex]

Yeah, that and the DinoDex had really obscure animals

[digital pendant]

Dinosaur king introduced me to a lot of dinos too

[lost magnet]

Agreed
And tbh, just some South American ungulates (like from before it connected with North America)
Those are some awesome weird mfs

[lost magnet]

Phytosaurs are cool

[ancient ibex]

Short snouted long lipped freaks, like whales

Yeah, JP3 Park Builder had a peculiar selection

[lost magnet]

Whales are cool, but being able to keep some of them in an enclosure would be quite the challenge

[austere sparrow]

XKCD jumpscare

[ancient ibex]

Goddammit that specific example strikes close to home

Failed to ID a silicate structure at a state exam 2 months ago

[austere sparrow]

Oof 😔

[digital pendant]

F

[steep tulip]

This is me with geology

[ancient ibex]

Won't forget sorosilicates now

[lost magnet]

Lol, I kinda felt that

[steep tulip]

I'm the quartz guy

[lost magnet]

Lavastone ftw bc it's cool af

[open heron]

this image is just the PK discord equivalent of that one goomba meme on twitter that people won't stop posting in every conversation despite the fact it doesn't even apply half the time.

[lost magnet]

Me with prehistoric animals and with guitar stuff lol

[digital pendant]

To think our ancestors were better at telling rocks apart than the majority of us today thanks to tool making

Says a lot tbh

[austere sparrow]

Love that Baryonyx is smaller than Herrarasaurus apparently. Love even more that Camarasaurus is smaller than Kentrosaurus

[austere sparrow]

Says a lot about society :pensiveclown:

[lost magnet]

Quick question: wtf???

[digital pendant]

That gameboy logic am i right

[left spear]

Our acestors were a lot better at a lot of things than use, i would argue we've become much worse in a lot of social things like tolerance than we were a couple millenia ago

[lost magnet]

Most likely

[hollow flower]

does this indicate star rating or size

[austere sparrow]

What the fuck is Triceratops L-horn

[left spear]

Just look at racism, completely bullshit no Matter if you look at It either ethically, socially or genetically.

[austere sparrow]

God this list is insane

[open heron]

it's just a triceratops with longer horns

[digital pendant]

Racism is just a subset of xenophobia tbh, but thats a topic for another chat

[left spear]

More so WTF is mini stegosaurus

[ancient ibex]

Size class; carnivores would fight carnivores of lower size class and herbivores of equal or lower; herbivores could harm animals of lower size class

[austere sparrow]

Didn't they like. Use identical models in actual gameplay tho? lmfao

[open heron]

sprites but yes

they had like 10ish total sprites for 140 animals

[austere sparrow]

Sprites, oof

[digital pendant]

They all had their own unique card art when selecting the exhibit

But other than that is all generic sprites

[hollow flower]

I wouldve thought star rating cause Camara and Dippy are in class 2

[austere sparrow]

I mean hey, the game was for Jurassic Park fans, chances are a non-zero amount didn't even notice

[open heron]

I don't think most JP fans even touched it given they all think JPOG was the first JP zoo builder still

[steep tulip]

Yeah, current social system push us to isolate ourselves unfortunately

[ancient ibex]

Game released on September 10 2001 for the GBA

[digital pendant]

Yep

[hollow flower]

I watched Thegamingbeaver play this to 100% and theres a reason no one considers this in the same ranks as jpog

[digital pendant]

Also a lot of people who played jpog was YEARS later after its release and pirated

[ancient ibex]

It is hard on the management section, and not much of a builder

[open heron]

That's not what I mean, they literally don't know it exists.

[hollow flower]

Well thats another thing aswell

Its pretty obscure stuff

[ancient ibex]

JPOG released 2 years after JP3, and I had trouble getting it back in 2005

GBA games used to be easy to play for free on PC, but Nintendo got relentless

[left spear]

Most pre JW games might aswell be Lost media in the general public perception

[digital pendant]

Oof the fact jpog is 22 years old 😭

Makes me feel ancient

[left spear]

Eh makes me feel worse that fucking rdr2 is 7 years old

[ancient ibex]

Like the first JWE

[open heron]

It's.... fine as a game, like a 5/10, not bad, not good, feel like that flash dinosaur zoo game did the core concept better despite having way less species (though technically also roughly the same if you only count unique sprites). but tbf JPOG's a 6/10 and I'm not gonna discuss it further.

[hollow flower]

Ive seen jpog in a cartridge in a mall video game shop

[left spear]

JPOG is really fun at it's best and an absolute slog at it's worse, i would agree with anyone ranking It as a 4-6

[hollow flower]

Pretty sure it was like

20 euros max?

[left spear]

That's quite expensive tbh

Should be 10

[hollow flower]

Well true but it is pretty ancient stuff at this point

Older than me which is quite something

[ancient ibex]

Still got it in a drawer

[left spear]

Tell me It precedes me by 5 and a half years

[digital pendant]

Jpog being a 6 sounds about right. Decent game, has its fun moments, but still rough on the edges

[digital pendant]

Haha the exact copy i got

[left spear]

I pirated mine lol

[digital pendant]

But my disc got broken by a cousin on accident 😔

[left spear]

Grandmas pc couldn't handled steam

Same with empire at war

[digital pendant]

I still have the manual. Man back when manuals were fun to read

[ancient ibex]

I miss manuals

I still buy a physical Switch game from time to time, and the emptyness of the case is disheartening

[steep tulip]

humans like to touch stuff, you cant do this to us man lol

[left spear]

I think the lastest one i have is the one from birthdays the beggining, a Game from 2017 💀

[hollow flower]

I must say the first jwe was like

[left spear]

I wish that Game got a sequel

[hollow flower]

Very mildly better than jpog

[left spear]

First jwe is a 7

[hollow flower]

Looking back in general the first jwe just is kinda mid

[left spear]

JPOG is a 6

And jwe2 is an 8

Hopefully the trends continous with jwe3

[steep tulip]

I had fun with the first jwe

like the campaign worked imo

[left spear]

Besides Pena it was fun

[open heron]

The JWE games are both 7s and definitely suffer a bit from fifa syndrome imo (less bad than actual fifa since there's actual content being added, but still)

[left spear]

I fucking hate pena

[hollow flower]

I never got past pena

[left spear]

More of a https://discord.com/channels/173172667623407616/1380687758934409248 thing tho

[steep tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[ancient ibex]

I gotta read a bit more on mammal paleodiversity; I love my rhinos, I'd like more elephants, but gotta be more diverse

[left spear]

Pyrotherium

[low bridge]

Platybelodon, Arsinoitherium, Ancylotherium, Megantereon

[desert flame]

Future updates will likely add Doedicurus, Megatherium, Ambulocetus, mini semi-aquatic mammals, and, less likely, Bos, but I agree that more mammals.

[digital pendant]

Its quite extensive

[low bridge]

Bronthotheres, Chalicotheres,Camels, Hell Pigs,Giraffs, Bovids

[austere sparrow]

If you mean Bos latifrons; that one is getting in

Obscure ass glupshitto somehow made it through like, all of the early species lists and has an EA model; Mau is probably unreasonably fond of it

[ancient ibex]

Can you not be caustically dimissive of stuff you don't like?

[digital pendant]

Steppe bison alt would be dope for mammoth steppe safari 🙏

[austere sparrow]

Theoretically I could

Caustic dismissal is just kinda the default here so like. Why bother lol

[desert flame]

So dose that mean there's high chance that Bos will be added during the EA?

[ancient ibex]

I don't think so

But it is a very likely animal to make it to the game post release

Both in Ice Age and recently extinct shapes

[austere sparrow]

I believe Bos was on the older "post ea animal additions" list so chances are it'll come during the full release, yeah

...During. I mean after. blegh

During the full release period, I guess you could say.

[ancient ibex]

2 Bison species were in the post-EA ideas last August as well

[austere sparrow]

I was thinking of those when I said Bos 😔 But yeah Bos primigenius is expected too I believe

Probably makes more sense to split, for clarities sake

[low bridge]

I think that we need game changer mammals like Sivatherium Maurisium+Giganteum and 1 alt: Bramatherium

[desert flame]

I see.
However, the roadmap update has increased the number of herbivores added in Update 19, so there's also the possibility that bosses may be added there.

[ancient ibex]

NGL, Bison as a genus is pretty much an artifact, and restricting Bos to cattle and deeming yaks, bantengs and gaurs as bisons is not likely to happen

[austere sparrow]

I guess that's possible!

[ancient ibex]

At the end of the day, cow is cow, and cow would rock in-game

As would horse

[low bridge]

Hmm Syncerus Antiqqus?

[austere sparrow]

I mean, genera are fake, so I dunno. Having one genus nested within another doesn't seem like the biggest deal; if humans survive into deep time chances are we'll need to set up for that eventually anyway

[austere sparrow]

I guess. Cow would be neat I guess 😔 Especially if they manage to make it look "cute but mighty" the way real life bovids like to do

[ancient ibex]

Humans are nested within Australopithecus anyway, and stuff being paraphyletic (and grades as a whole) is important for understanding evolution, but, Bison is not quite that; it is on the same ballpark as each bear species having a genus

[austere sparrow]

I suppose

[desert flame]

Update 19 may add Bos, or alt species for Megatherium and Doedicurus...

[austere sparrow]

I am not sure I would even want a Megatherium alt species tbh

Rather get a second ground sloth down the line

...But also the devs are stingy with mammals so maybe I'm foolish for thinking that

[low bridge]

Eremotherium as alt for Megatherium and Glyptodon alt for Doedicurus

[ancient ibex]

There are also associations going with Bos bison as well; wisents make it even more complicated due to mDNA introgression with aurochs

[austere sparrow]

Glypto will absolutely not work as a Doedic alt but I can see Eremo for the GGS I guess

[low bridge]

Maybe Panochtus as Doedicurus alt??

[austere sparrow]

I suppose it would be great for biome integration so that's something. Maybe it can have a naked skin if the devs want to paleomeme again

Panochthus could work

Would be neat to see

[low bridge]

Heh Panochtus is beta version of Doedi

By club

Tbh

[desert flame]

Two species very similar and will function as alts.

[low bridge]

Real, based on facts

Devs must add them

[austere sparrow]

Doedicurus being a repeat of Paracer/Parasaur would be hella based ngl

Actually wait

It seems Doedic only has one recognized species?

What's that other animal, then?

[hollow flower]

Thats what im thinking too

[digital pendant]

Panochthus

A whole different animal that woulndt work as an alt

Too different

[austere sparrow]

Panochthus? Pretty sure that's not Panochthus

[digital pendant]

One on the right is

[austere sparrow]

Nevermind, damn, it is

[hollow flower]

Ive had a mild distain for Panochthus purely due to the one in jw:tg looking really ugly

[digital pendant]

Jw:tg mammals in general are ugly as sin

[austere sparrow]

You think they're too different, AD? They look close enough to me 🤔

[hollow flower]

I mean seriously this is awful

[digital pendant]

The skulls are very different

Would require massive texture changes as well

Different osteoderm configuration

[austere sparrow]

Hm 🤔

Looks pretty similar to me

(This is Doedicurus)

[austere sparrow]

Also don't think anybody would mind Pano just getting Doedics osteoderm config

[digital pendant]

The devs put a lot of work to make the alts, do you expect they would half ass one like that so bad 😂

[low bridge]

Panochtus is below

[hollow flower]

Perhaps the one person whos favourite prehistoric animal is Panochthus

[digital pendant]

I honestly dont mind if doed or megatherium dont get alts

Not all animals need an alt

[austere sparrow]

...Are you seeing something I'm not seeing because the osteoderm configuration looks near identical to me

Like I guess Panoch has round osteoderms where Doedic has squares?

[desert flame]

true

[austere sparrow]

I dunno. I guess it would be a bit of an annoying alt to do but like.

Idk lol

[desert flame]

In fact, Megaloceros, which has many subspecies, does not have an alt.

[digital pendant]

Doed has a rounder and larger osteoderms

Meanwhile panoch has smaller ones and also has some rectangular ones

[austere sparrow]

Feel like only Glyptodont researchers would care about that kinda stuff ngl

[digital pendant]

Annoys me people will get pedantic over dinosaurs being their own spot but then half ass mammal alts like bruh 😂

Whats stopping half the hadrosaurs from just being alts

Or the theropods

[austere sparrow]

Like it's not exactly a Thyreophoran. Most people will see the osteoderms as patterns

[digital pendant]

Alberto can be a rex alt sort of deal

[austere sparrow]

You're saying that to me as if I hadn't suggested using retroactive alt to bring legions upon legions of Hadrosaurs to the game 😭

[digital pendant]

Lmao fair

Probably didnt see those

Im just on the camp of less mammals if they are done well than having a bunch of half assed alts for the sake of it as much as i would like to have more diversity if possible

[austere sparrow]

Like. Glyptodont osteoderms are on a similar level of like. Hadrosaurus scales. I sure would want them to be accurate-ish to one of the species but I like. Wouldn't care if you added the two Saurolophus species and gave them the same scale texture

[austere sparrow]

You're really gonna pull the Glyptodont scale closeups out for the game that has Muskox Pachyrhinosaurus and Thyreophoran Iguanodon? 😭

[digital pendant]

Osteoderms would be noticeable, its a defining feature of them

Is not a close up you would notice quite easily

Specially when the animal is mostly a shell

[austere sparrow]

Hm. Meh

Even then. Not sure the osteoderms would be an unreasonable amount of work anyway

I feel like they'd just be part of the pattern anyway, being as tiny as they are, and that's like. Potentially annoying but shouldn't be too much more work than individual dinosaur skins are

...I hope they're just pattern lol, I'm not sure most computers could handle them if they were 3D

[faint oak]

chat am i crazy for wanting more cats

[lost magnet]

This cladogram implies that Bison is a genus within the genus Bos

[short rover]

Fr

[ancient ibex]

Big proponent of Corythosaurus as a Lambeo alt, or Giganotosaurus as a Carcharo alt, fwiw

[ancient ibex]

Bison nested within Bos has been a thing for a long while

[neat iris]

Not really; I think it would be awesome to have homotherium

[faint oak]

real

lots of skin potential with homoth

also really really really want miracinonyx lol

would be really cool to have all 3 major cat lineages represented

and we get the purpur creature

the meower even

need the mewmew

[short rover]

So true anth

[faint oak]

cheetahs and pumas are just so cool and i need

https://tenor.com/view/cheetahs-licking-cute-gif-12295417885253172468

require

https://tenor.com/view/cheetah-cat-ears-ear-scitches-scratches-cute-cat-gif-23317509

https://tenor.com/view/leopard-cat-cats-cute-playful-gif-4802718

i dont care if its normal kingdom gimmie the cars

[neat iris]

Having miracinonyx would be all that, but lion-sized

[faint oak]

need the car

plus with the two species you could go 2 for 2 for 2 on each of the lineages

ignoring homoth

which we shouldnt cause its sick

you know a cat dlc would sell like hotcakes

the people yearn for the cattos

car.

[short rover]

It was not that big

[austere sparrow]

Not too wild about Homotherium (unless it is very fluffy in which I am sold) but I would definitely like some cats

Miracinonyx probably has the best chances but I really want something smaller that climbs

[neat iris]

I might have been thinking of a different extinct cheetah species

[austere sparrow]

Like uh. Megantereon and Nimravus maybe? Not sure either actually climbed but they have the vibes

Murrican Cheetah is an imposter cheetah. You might have been thinking of the giant cheetah?

I would prefer Mira, do not see the apeal in "already big modern animal but bigger"

[ancient ibex]

Those being Smilodontini, Homotherini and crown Felidae bwahaha

Homotherium AND Miracinonyx would both be great tho

[austere sparrow]

Deinotherium might be something on account of like. Being one of the few extinct cats to have even slightly entered the cultural zeitgeist

I really hope PrePla Ice Age catapults a new novel kitty into the spotlight

...Deinotherium blegh

Meant Deinofelis

[neat iris]

That one would be cool to have

I think we’re good on cats already, but I still wouldn’t mind some more

[austere sparrow]

I guess Deinofelis is given Leopard vibes in pop culture even though I'm not sure how much sense that makes

Oh. It's written Dinofelis, oops

I usually prefer getting dogs or seals over cats but if we get a dog chances are it'll be the Dire, and I don't really care for that one, and seals will, if any get in at all, have to wait for diving

[short rover]

Probably

[short rover]

Homotherium cool it’s dog cat

[ancient ibex]

Dinofelis has a niche meme potential ngl

[austere sparrow]

You made me listen to Felis navidad smh

Hope ur proud of urself

[left spear]

Maybe we get dinofelis in a prospero año and we'll have felicidad

[austere sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-leopard-snow-leopard-cat-snow-leopards-gif-4749084489265365117

[feral cedar]

as silly as this might sound looking at bison and cattle from side to side their faces are very similar

I never really noticed that before

Of course it makes sense

[short rover]

Doesn’t sound silly at all

[ancient ibex]

Yeah, the afro breaks the very cattle profile of their heads

[left spear]

What a bos

[feral cedar]

They look like cattle wearing wigs

It’s so funny

[ancient ibex]

Pokemon understood the assignment

[short rover]

That’s kinda what they are tbf

[left spear]

One of the Big horned Leptobos could also be fun

[ancient ibex]

NGL, Syncerus as the alt genus for Bos would be funny

[austere sparrow]

Christmas update pack with Dire Wolf, Dinofelis and Cristatusaurus (as a retroactive Bary alt), is that anything 😤

[left spear]

Or Pelorovis

[ancient ibex]

As the iconic old Pelorovis species is now Synceros

[left spear]

Ah

[ancient ibex]

Yeah, antiquus is now Synceros

[left spear]

Well syncerus then

Thanks for being sincere

[ancient ibex]

The moustachehorn buffalos rock

Extra points if they are irrationally hostile versus Panthera bwahaha

[feral cedar]

That genetic memory kicks in

[austere sparrow]

The musth transcends families

[ancient ibex]

Syncerus killed a rich white hunter this month after all

[feral cedar]

Bos brings the beef and not the edible kind

[left spear]

Also Leptobos etruscus, some fun mediterranean rep, put It in greece so It can have something

[ancient ibex]

Also brings the edible kind in the package tho

[feral cedar]

Don’t these idiots know that African buffalo are like super deadly

[feral cedar]

mmm

[silver steeple]

Quite tasty to boot

[feral cedar]

Bronto Burger? Nah, give me Bison Burger

[left spear]

They literally stalk the hunters that shoot them

[ancient ibex]

Hmmm, this is Bubalus rather than Synceros, but still

[left spear]

They are essentially the paleomeme versión of Theri but for extant mammals

[ancient ibex]

With the classiest moustache possible as horns

[left spear]

Btw any sheep/goat but the German cave goat?

[feral cedar]

It’s always nice to appreciate the majesty of modern animals

It’s easy to dismiss extant fauna because we’re used to them

[ancient ibex]

Myotragus ftw

[left spear]

So the German cave goat

[ancient ibex]

C'mon Mallorca deserves better lol

[austere sparrow]

Crossing my fingers for that one Ibex subspecies

[feral cedar]

But for instance, this is majestic

[austere sparrow]

Only animal to be revived, only animal to go extinct twice 😔

[ancient ibex]

Capra pyrenaica pyrenaica

[austere sparrow]

Yeah

[left spear]

Poor bucardos 😔

[austere sparrow]

I am trying to avoid letting onto the fact that I forgot how to write Pyraenean or whatever

[left spear]

And mueyos which are the portuguese version

[ancient ibex]

Wild goats going with a species per mountain range is quite dire

[left spear]

Btw back on the topic of nuragic animals any Sardinian/corsican animals?

[feral cedar]

Not my area of expertise I’m afraid

[neat iris]

Did someone say

Dire?

[austere sparrow]

Looking for potential alts for the Pyrenean Ibex now lol

I guess there's the Portuguese Ibex...?

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/this-peaks-memes-gif-16921095133411355177

Only change I’d make

Replace the horse with Nothrotheriops

Sid the Sloth must be in PK

[austere sparrow]

Did they confirm Sid was a Shasta?

[hollow flower]

What did the devs say about Dimetrodon again?

[left spear]

Not many other choices, alpine and Gredos Ibex are extant, and i don't think there's any non-european extinct species

[austere sparrow]

Also, Camelops as our first camel in a world where Titanotylopus and Aepycamelus exist would be. Quite something

...Also not sure Bison antiquus would work as a latifrons alt

Given the like. Horns

[feral cedar]

There’s no confirmation

HOWEVER

[left spear]

Btw it's pyrenean

[feral cedar]

A group of paleontologists considered Ice Age’s time and place and Sid’s proportions

They concluded the closest ground sloth we have to Sid is Nothrotheriops

[left spear]

It's a generic sloth, any non-gigantic North american sloth works

[feral cedar]

I see the vision lol

[austere sparrow]

💀 Damn, considering the Gastornithids and Hesperornithids and Amebelodontids and Echidnas and Moeritheres and Dodos roaming around I'm sure time and place are super reliable for species in ice age

I would love like. Any small ground sloth tho

[silver steeple]

I thought the film makers said that Sid was supposed to be Megalonyx

[left spear]

And you know, fucking dinosaurs and marine reptiles

[feral cedar]

The Ice Age fandom wiki states so, with no source

[austere sparrow]

Those are at least noted to be out of place lol

[left spear]

SPEAKING of megalonyxs when a cuba dlc

Fascinating ecosystem

[silver steeple]

What

Megalonyx is from NA

[left spear]

Bruh

Fucking autocorrector

[silver steeple]

Literally Alaska to Mexico distribution

[feral cedar]

To be fair MOST of the first movie’s animals are at least Pleistocene

[left spear]

ornimegalonyx

[feral cedar]

Macrauchenia, a glyptodont, Smilodon, Homotherium, aardvarks for some reason

[silver steeple]

Awful segue

[feral cedar]

mammoths, dodos

[silver steeple]

And then there were two brontotheres at the beginning lol

[feral cedar]

Lol true

[austere sparrow]

Superfuzzy aardvarks. One of them is blue

[left spear]

Also modern mongoose

[feral cedar]

Imagine the brontotheres at the beginning were instead a woolly rhino and Elasmotherium

[left spear]

Atleast that's what i think is buck

[feral cedar]

even if Ice Age isn’t the most accurate portrayal

Nothrotheriops is like, Sid’s exact size

And it’s found in La Brea

It’s perfect

[silver steeple]

So is megalonyx

[feral cedar]

I don’t think so, hold on

[left spear]

Megalonyx is also Infinitely more popular so more likely

[feral cedar]

Sid was never this jacked lol

[austere sparrow]

The American Cheetah was in La Brea, funky

Oh, Homotherium was, too

[feral cedar]

Megalonyx looks us in the eyes on all fours, Nothrotheriops needs to rear up

[silver steeple]

I've seen smaller megalonyx recons

[austere sparrow]

Sid being Nothrotheriops would make more sense. But this is the franchise that gave Aardvarks trunks

[feral cedar]

I’ve seen smaller recons of you

[silver steeple]

Impossible

I am already barely more than an atom's tall

[austere sparrow]

bet we'll all feel real stupid when Megatherium remains the sole PK ground sloth 😔

[silver steeple]

Its at least the best option

[austere sparrow]

Yes, but

second sloth

😔

I wish weird unique mammal groups got half as much love as Theropods and Ceratopsians with slightly different heads and arms...

[silver steeple]

Unfortunately those are much more bang for your buck

[austere sparrow]

Little Timmys the world over pay big bucks for their favorite flavor of dinosaur slop? 😔

I almost respect Frontier for going all in on antelopes even though damn near nobody cares for them

And somehow still missing a couple of the ones most common in captivity

[neat iris]

If I remember correctly, the scientists and museums that the filmmakers consulted with gave them full liberty over what species to put in the movie as long as they didn’t include dinosaurs.

So basically what The Land Before Time did but Cenozoic

Which is funny because Fox originally wanted Don Bluth (the guy who made the original Land Before Time movie and many other classics) to direct Ice Age

[plush nacelle]

Still remember how community made ranking for all species and only like 5 even-toed ungulates made into top 100

Or how Frontier released official most used animals during anniversary and these were all birds, lion and jaguar

[austere sparrow]

God lmfao

The community longs for birds, Frontier

[hollow flower]

Is the shoebill in that game

[austere sparrow]

Frontier there's so many Galliforms you can put in that don't to fly Frontier please

[plush nacelle]

No

[austere sparrow]

Nope

[hollow flower]

Shame

[austere sparrow]

They don't even have ducks yet, I believe?

[hollow flower]

I feel that one would be very popular

[hollow flower]

Cenozoic sweep

[plush nacelle]

Second sloth will come and is going to be fun, trust

[feral cedar]

Thalassocnus?

[plush nacelle]

It better be something basic like megalonyx or mylodon

Thalassocnus require proper deep diving imo

[feral cedar]

True

[feral cedar]

I think a nothrotheriid to go with a megatheriid would be ideal

Nothrotheriops trust

[digital pendant]

Mylodon would be nice, it coexisted with the other famous SA lads

[plush nacelle]

Idk. Add 6 sloths

[digital pendant]

Yes 😎

[plush nacelle]

Fkers are really diverse

[feral cedar]

Nothrotheriops in a La Brea pack would be awesome ngl

[plush nacelle]

Paramylodon is the la brea sloth

[feral cedar]

Mylodon can be added with the SA fellas

[plush nacelle]

How viable would be paramylodon alt for mylodon?

[feral cedar]

Not impossible

I think Pleistocene fauna being focused primarily on Smilodon-adjacent animals, mammoth steppe-adjacent mammals, and some Australian megafauna is ideal

[digital pendant]

Doable actually

Same for glossotherium alt

They are all very similar animals

Some minor anatomical adjustments, but could work

No crazy osteoderms nor different finger configurations which could pose an issue

Mostly size difference and slightly skull differences

Like mylodon has a longer snout than paramylodon

[feral cedar]

Palaeoloxodon with antiquus/falconeri alts, cave hyena, Toxodon, Macrauchenia, Doedicurus, Mylodon, Arctodus (Arctotherium alt?), dire wolves, Camelops, Columbian mammoth, mastodons, bison

Thylacoleo, Diprotodon, megalania, and Procoptodon for the Aussies

[plush nacelle]

Alright. Mylodon with paramylodon alts sounds perfect then

[digital pendant]

Glosso added to the trio would be cool as well since it was found in the tropics

So a tundra one, a temperate one, and a tropical one

All mylodontids

[feral cedar]

Which one's the tundra one?

[digital pendant]

Mylodon

[feral cedar]

what

[digital pendant]

It did range into the pampas area, but further south into patagonia was basically tundra conditions

[plush nacelle]

So 3 sloths in one?

[digital pendant]

Sort of like a south american steppe

[digital pendant]

I think it is doable with those 3 imo

[plush nacelle]

Even better

Anything south american for nothrotheriops?

[digital pendant]

Notrotherium

Half the size of nothrotheriops

And tropical

Yeah these are doable imo

[feral cedar]

https://x.com/JoschuaKnuppe/status/1652449387086241800

Joschua Knüppe (@JoschuaKnuppe)

Technical difficulties continued, but the camels where still balling on this #paleostream
It's Titanotylopus btw.
#OOCpaleostream #CamelBalls

X · Apr 29, 2023, 11:06 PM

Maybe?

Titanotylopus could be fun

An animal with 'titano' in the name that EARNS it 🗣️

[plush nacelle]

Alright:

1. Megatherium
2. Mylodon / Paramylodon/ Glossotherium
3. Megalonyx
4. Nothrotheriops / Nothrotherium
5. Thalassocnus (with aquatics)

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/this-peaks-memes-gif-16921095133411355177

Don't forget either Neocnus or Hapalops for a terrarium sloth

both are small ground sloths who could climb

[flint sable]

wouldnt that make Bison a subgenus

[desert flame]

Would an semi-aquatic sloth make a terrarium exhibit?

[hollow furnace]

Depends which semi aquatic sloth

[faint oak]

Truuuueee

Always has a soft spot for em cause of zt2

[desert flame]

Thalassocnus is terrarium?

[hollow furnace]

Thalassocnus is huge, way too big for terrarium

[desert flame]

ummm
Is it difficult.

[hollow furnace]

Is what difficult

[final yarrow]

thalassocnus wouldnt fit in a terrarium no matter what u do

it'd just look off

and i'd honestly feel bad for the sloth

[late swallow]

That things raptor sized

[plush nacelle]

Big terrarium is large enough to meet minimum standards for something like zebra or camel to be fair.

[late swallow]

Do we know what it's behaviour patterns likely were?

[faint oak]

Me when I put the horse in the sensory deprivation box 🙏

[plush nacelle]

Not saying it makes sense, but if Mau randomly decided to put thalassocnus in terrarium it would probably fit 2 individuals

[safe kestrel]

they group like power ranger

[visual magnet]

If we're going to talk about mammals that the game needs...

[short rover]

Hopefully megatherium in u19

[austere sparrow]

Megatherium in u19 or I'm stealing all the Bison latifrons material

[low bridge]

We should have hyena in Prehistoric Kingdom

Cave Hyena

[high meadow]

ooh! i'd love a Great Auk

[left spear]

Well a Recently extinct animals DLC is confirmed, and It was included in old concept art for It, this coupled with being an overall great addition, having potentially quite fun dialogue with Nigel and It being an extinction icon makes It a given in my opinion

[high meadow]

nice*

[low bridge]

Devs must add HIM

[left spear]

Buriolestes as either a mini or full exhibit, a small early-to-mid triassic carnivorous sauropodomorph

Would be a fun contrast to Plateo

Skeletal for the curious