Community Species Suggestions

[mint creek]

hell yeah

[plush nacelle]

Teleoceras would have to come in clutch. Cant see anything else

[plucky mantle]

Syndyoceras coexisted with Daeodon and Hyaenodon and is basically identical to Synthetoceras so I don't see why they wouldn't just use that one

[mint creek]

cooler horn

[plucky mantle]

alt species then

the difference is so minor either way

[plush nacelle]

Would pick the one from white river fauna

[austere sparrow]

I hope the devs will one day prove themselves willing to add weird obscure animals, if only to add formation buddies to all the lonely critters the game has been amassing so far

[flint sable]

no no no

hear me out

remember the doccumentary Forgotten Bloodlines Agate?

Nigel is also narrating that

and Syndydoceras is gonna be in that one

[plush nacelle]

Tru

[feral cedar]

I mean… a lot of the mammals are very lonely

Sinotherium, paracerathere trio, and Smilodon populator

[flint sable]

so I think a formation for the Agate Fossil Beds with Syndydo, Daeodon, and Hyaenadon would be peak

[feral cedar]

I don’t think Hyaenodon is in Agate chief

[flint sable]

oh

[plush nacelle]

I just feel like small to medium ungulate is specifically asking for enclosure buddy

[feral cedar]

And some dinosaurs too, like for example Charonosaurus, Coelophysis, Scelidosaurus, Plateosaurus, and soon Utahraptor and Carnotaurus

[feral cedar]

Yeah I get that

[plush nacelle]

Same feelings toward psittacosaurus

Would be fun to have something bigger outside making standalone exhibits for it

[feral cedar]

I mean you don’t HAVE to house it either by itself or with IRL contemporaries

[plush nacelle]

I am not really a fan of bashing dinosaurs from various periods into one exhibit

Idk. Going back to agate and such

Oreodont

[feral cedar]

I’ve seen Sinotherium and Nasutoceratops sharing an exhibit in official PK trailers lol

I understand it’s your preference, but Psittacosaurus need not be lonely

[austere sparrow]

We do (finally) have multi-formation animals, so Agate AND White river can make it ingame, potentially

[desert flame]

I know that Kelenken may be added in Update 19, but I'd like to see Gastornis appear in a future update.

[low bridge]

What about 250 kg Daeodon alt: Archaeotherium

[tidal flame]

I'm glad people were more reasonable to you about suggesting Flat-Headed Peccary.

[austere sparrow]

Would you still want Archaeotherium if it wasn't exactly 250 kgs or is that like. A dealbreaker

[digital pendant]

the weight doesnt really change the dimensions of archaeotherium being much smaller than daeodon tbh

in fact i think it was even lighter weight wise

but stating the weight isnt really relevant, just saying Archaeotherium suffices since we know its a smaller animal than Daeodon

[austere sparrow]

Archaeotherium was the one that cached its kills and might have lived in packs, I believe

It would be hella pog to have both it and the presumably more solitary Daeodon

[low bridge]

Archaeotherium to Daeodon is like Juxia to Paraceratherium

[austere sparrow]

Would you still love Archaeotherium if it was a worm?

[low bridge]

Better smaller alt than another big alt

[austere sparrow]

I don't really mind big/same size alts tbh

[low bridge]

Yeah i know but smaller alt to Daeodon would be good just like Juxia is alt of Paraceratherium

[austere sparrow]

We can usually replicate animals that are smaller with neotony now, probably

Archaeotherium had distinct behavior tho and it'd be a shame to lose out on that

[low bridge]

I have Paraentelodon in mind by that

And it is very incomplete

[ancient ibex]

The big ones are back in Diatryma fwiw

[austere sparrow]

Where the heck are you getting that one from?

[shell sonnet]

https://palaeo-electronica.org/content/2024/5393-review-of-gastornithiformes

either way, giganteus is a great addition

[austere sparrow]

I guess that does make more sense than Gastornis somehow being the only member of its family

...Then again, I suppose if they were indeed rainforest specialists as they appear to be... 🤔

[feral cedar]

So this is Diatryma again?

[silver steeple]

Yeah

[feral cedar]

…huh

I do like Diatryma more as a name lol

[late swallow]

He's so fuckin fat

[austere sparrow]

Yeah; I am not convinced of the biomechanical feasibility of this reconstruction, lol

[slim flare]

Giant parrot

[neat iris]

I’m happy as long as we get Kelenken and/or Phorusracos

[plush nacelle]

Everybody knows that giant parrot and small horse come in pair

[neat iris]

Gastornis too, but that’s not a terror bird

[slim flare]

Impossible to even comprehend what Cenozoic animals we still need

At least non-avian dinosaurs you can make a decisive list of like 20 species that’d fill out the rest of the missing clades.

[austere sparrow]

That's in large parts because we're missing so many fundamental ones

[slim flare]

Yes

Decisive 20 species remaining NA dino list:

1. A Troodontid
2. Austroraptor
3. Gigantoraptor
4. Therizinosaurus
5. Albertosaurus + Gorgosaurus
6. Yutyrannus
7. Guanlong
8. Carnotaurus
9. Ceratosaurus
10. Mamenchisaurus
11. Diplodocus
12. Nigersaurus
13. Armagasaurus
14. Edmontonia
15. Another Ankylosaur
16. Kentrosaurus
17. Dacentrurus + Miragaia
18. Tenontosaurus
19. Pachycephalosaurus + Stygimoloch
20. Prenocephale

[plush nacelle]

Idk. Cant argue

[slim flare]

That’s why it’s decisive

[plush nacelle]

Maybe on guanlong at best

For something else

[slim flare]

Heresy

[austere sparrow]

Would add Saltasaurus, Guanlong and Deinonychus, personally

[slim flare]

Guanlong is on the list

[austere sparrow]

Oh damn

Rip Guanlong 😔

[shell sonnet]

No, Alvareazsaurs, no Herrea, no Noasaurs, no basal ornithiscians, no basal stegosaurs, no shuno, no salta, no megaraptors, amongst other things

[slim flare]

Saltasaurus is ok
I really really want Deinonychus

[slim flare]

Correct. There’s like 5 weirdos I didn’t put because I think they’re simply less likely and people would miss them less.

[shell sonnet]

seriously, Herreasaurus should be in the game before Gigantoraptor, Austroraptor, or Guanlong

[plush nacelle]

Alvarezsaurs are terrarium critters

Tbf

[slim flare]

^

[slim flare]

I did forget Herrasaurus tbh

[shell sonnet]

Monokyus is about the right size

for exhibit

[slim flare]

Mononykus is debatable

Basal stegosaurs are all awfully preserved

[shell sonnet]

Huayangosaurus is not

[slim flare]

Saltasaurus is overrated af afaik

[austere sparrow]

Saltasaurus is not overrated 😔

It's barely rated at all

[slim flare]

All right Huayangosaurus is cool

[austere sparrow]

Huayangosaurus would be dope

[slim flare]

Shunosaurus? Why?

[shell sonnet]

It's unique

[austere sparrow]

Definitely not in the same likelihood tier as everything else tho

Hell, Gigantoraptor is only on par because it's already referenced ingame

[slim flare]

I guess it’s kinda weirdly proportioned

[austere sparrow]

Tailclub

[slim flare]

And it’s super unique

[austere sparrow]

People love the tailclub

[final yarrow]

Majungasaurus isnt on there

[slim flare]

Mamenchisaurus also has that afaik

[slim flare]

Correct

[austere sparrow]

Not all of the species do

[shell sonnet]

Only one species does

it's not the main one

[slim flare]

The others are confirmed to not have it?

Also what do you consider the main one?

Afaik Mamenchisaurus is paraphyletic

[shell sonnet]

as far as I know, only Mamenchisaurus hochuanensis has it

[slim flare]

A Megaraptorid would be cool, I just find it less likely and less needed than what I listed

[hollow flower]

Im the biggest Shuno defender

[austere sparrow]

Since we're talking about clubbed Sauropods, shoutout to Spinophorosaurus

Definitely not making it ingame probably but. It exists

[shell sonnet]

I consider Mamenchisaurus youngi to be the main one; given how a mess the type species is

[shell sonnet]

tail club was disproven

[austere sparrow]

It was?

Sob

[hollow flower]

The funny creature

[harsh oxide]

Mamenchisaurus us one of my favorite Sauropods

Shunosaurus sbd omeisaurus is cool too

[shell sonnet]

Mamechi is a mess of a genera that really needs to go through re-organization and splitting, which is the biggest problem with it

[slim flare]

All right I’ll amend the list for 5 more species

21. Herrerasaurus
22. Huayangosaurus

Choose a sauropod

[shell sonnet]

yeah, both of parts Shixamo really need reps: Shuno, Omei, Huayango, Gigantspino for the lower, and Mamechi, Tuojiango, and Yangchuanosaurus for the upper

[slim flare]

So probably Shuno for formation synergy

[austere sparrow]

Could Omeisaurus work as a Mamench alt? assuming we can go for any Mamench species to make it fit better

[slim flare]

Mamenchisaurus already has 4ish species

I rather focus on them

[shell sonnet]

there's an upper and lower level; kind of like how Utahraptor and Deinonychus can be found in the same area but they're part clearly different time periods

[austere sparrow]

Ngl I do not care about the individual Mamench species that much 😔

Would prefer two Mamench species and one Omei

Like with Paracer

[final yarrow]

i’d like to see Shunosaurus over Mamench

or maybe both

[austere sparrow]

If that's whatsoever feasible, I mean.

[final yarrow]

cus Shuno is smaller and idk small sauropod nice

[austere sparrow]

Yes that's me

[low bridge]

Master Yang when?????

[shell sonnet]

Like I said, the genera is a mess. Here's three seperate phylogeny analysis done in the last five years

[slim flare]

That’s why I said “ish”

sinocanadorum is definitely it’s own thing

[waxen grail]

Hence why it would be a good alt

[slim flare]

I need that TLW representation

[shell sonnet]

so, Diplodocus hallorum

[slim flare]

No

[shell sonnet]

No species of Mamechi has that long of a tail

[slim flare]

Mamenchisaurus was thought by some to be a Diplodocid at the time

[austere sparrow]

Everybody knows that the name is the only important aspect of pop culture dinosaurs; even if they were not actually named in the media itself and look nothing like the animal they allegedly are 👍

Who is hyped for Deinosuchus so we can finally recreate WWD Death of a Dynasty btw

[shell sonnet]

I know some Mamechi restorations in the past had it with a long tail, but you're going to get a better rep of the TLW sauropod with Dippy

[ancient ibex]

The one in TLW was designed as a Diplodocus pretty much

It isn't refered to as Mamenchi in the movie

[slim flare]

The JP Mamenchisaurus is specifically based on Mamenchisaurus hochuanensis

[ancient ibex]

Mamenchisaurus isn't featured in The Lost World in 1997 by any metric that matters

[slim flare]

Again, TLW wasn’t the only one making Diplodocid Mamenchisaurus in that timeframe

[ancient ibex]

Yeah I'm aware Mamenchi was found to be a diplodocid back in the day

Like titanosaurs

[plush nacelle]

Imma make list for mammals

Or cenozoic in general

[slim flare]

There better be 80 or more slots

[austere sparrow]

🤔

[plush nacelle]

Trying keep it to 20

[slim flare]

Why?

[austere sparrow]

Twenty will not be enough lmfao

[plush nacelle]

Idk. Most important ones I guess?

[slim flare]

Good luck

[plush nacelle]

Everybody knows that PK will have 250 slots and 100 alts

[shell sonnet]

Honestly, I wish more people would limit their wishlists to reasonable numbers; it's introspective about what really matters and your own tastes

[slim flare]

What’s a reasonable number?

[shell sonnet]

20 is fine for main variants; I usually limit myself to ten for DLC ideas

[shell sonnet]

that's carnegi not hallorum aka Seismosaurus

[austere sparrow]

[shell sonnet]

it would be a great alt to carnegi, I'd advocate for B. lentus as an alt as well

[austere sparrow]

Hm. I guess that could work. Would be neat

[austere sparrow]

Oh my gosh the Kaatedocus 🥺

[shell sonnet]

when we thought it was a juvie

[austere sparrow]

Yeah that's an impressive one

Kaatedocus might unironically be a good addition to showcase that Sauropods took like, "Ornithischian" niches in Morrison, but like

Only if Dippy gets four alts probably

[shell sonnet]

Kaatedocus is closer to Amagra than Dippy

[austere sparrow]

It is? Whack

[shell sonnet]

at least to one study, an earlier one did have it as a closer to Baro

[neat basalt]

i would like to see ingentia

[shell sonnet]

but I trust the judgment of the latter one

[slim flare]

20 mams:

1. Dire wolf
2. Hyaenodon
3. Steppe bison + long-horned bison
4. Kyptoceras and/or Syndyoceras
5. Daeodon
6. A Chalicotheriid
7. Macrauchenia
8. Toxodon
9. Embolotherium
10. Uintatherium
11. Mastodon + Notiomastodon
12. Deinotherium
13. Platybelodon
14. Arsinoitherium
15. Doedicurus
16. Megatherium
17. Thylacosmilus
18. Thylacoleo
19. Diprotodon
20. Procoptodon

[shell sonnet]

I see the appeal but I'd like something with a few more bones

[neat basalt]

herrerasaurus ?

[shell sonnet]

didn't live together

[neat basalt]

epicyon

[neat basalt]

i know

but you asked for smth with more bones

or fossil material

[shell sonnet]

I mean I was also thinking in terms of triassic sauropodmorphs

[neat basalt]

oh

[shell sonnet]

Riojasaurus would work

[silver steeple]

Why Kyptoceras over like Synthetoceras or whatever which was already planned for the game at some point

[neat basalt]

lessemsaurus ?

[shell sonnet]

I can't find a good skeletal of that one

so i don't know

[digital pendant]

pretty solid list

[slim flare]

Tbh I thought it was Kyptoceras

[silver steeple]

I'll double check

[slim flare]

They’re sister taxon apparently

[silver steeple]

Fairly certain its Syntheto

[shell sonnet]

we're talking about the sling shot deer right

[slim flare]

I amended it so it says both

[silver steeple]

Was poking around and I haven't found syntheto yet but there is old art for Procranioceras

[slim flare]

(Boring)

Camelops would also be cool

[austere sparrow]

Synthetoceras is definitely one of the animals

[lean hound]

That anky skin goes hard

[shell sonnet]

best image I could find,
that's a maybe

[slim flare]

Remember what they took from you

[shell sonnet]

one of those things is not like the other

[slim flare]

?

[harsh oxide]

I dig this list 👍🏾

[shell sonnet]

one of them is a far inferior addition

[slim flare]

Hyeanodon…

[shell sonnet]

Daeodon, entelodonts are overrated 😉

[harsh oxide]

We're still getting recently extinct critters too right? I need the dodo 🦤

[silver steeple]

Very real chance that I have been mandela'd

[steep tulip]

Mauchrachenia with xenorinotherium alt in u19
Together with doedicurus and megatherium

[shell sonnet]

I'm in the minority but I actually like Glyptodon more than Doedicurus

[slim flare]

It was probably on the original species list. Does it seriously not exist even in the wayback machine?

[silver steeple]

I can't find anything

Haven't tried Wayback yet tho

[slim flare]

I remember it had a lot of Wessex Formation species that have never resurfaced besides… Iguanodon

[silver steeple]

I only remember Bary and Iggy

Which Bary is still planned

[shell sonnet]

Is Bary even from Wessex anymore, I thought we re-classified those specimen

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[digital pendant]

would kill for a xenorhino alt. it would basically be the oppossite of macrauchenia in many aspects

-preferred hotter environments, so tropical, grassland, desert and scrub would be its ideal in game biomes
-potentially had a larger nose given the environment
-slightly slender next to mac
-had a mixed feeder diet so would eat fruits and plants
-lived in more open woodland in contrast to the plains oriented mac
-can have a much shorter pelt than mac and even have a mane for variety's sake

[silver steeple]

At the time of concept art creation it would have been Wessex

[slim flare]

Polacanthus, Neovenator, Hypsilophodon, Eotyrannus, multiple pterosaurs…

[shell sonnet]

In the past yes, I'm just talking about now

[slim flare]

I agree

[silver steeple]

See I was curious if they're similar enough in proportion but it seems like it based on your response

[steep tulip]

Same
I like glyptodon more simple shapes

[left spear]

Replace Guang with Bonapartenykus

[harsh oxide]

It'd be cool if new updates and downloads were themed after a certain fossil arrea. Like the Wessex pack or something

[left spear]

Otherwise great list

[austere sparrow]

We have cave art of Xenorhino! 😤

[slim flare]

Yes but also Baryonyx was nearby at the same time so… it was probably present.

[slim flare]

Who?

[left spear]

Big Mononykus

[digital pendant]

hmm debated, i dont hold my breath on the accuracy of those datings and neither should you

[silver steeple]

I don't remember hypsi or eotyrannus having CA but the other two I think did

Well I know Polacanthus did but you get what I mean

[hollow furnace]

Which of the old lists

[slim flare]

New quest: find the old PK species list

[silver steeple]

Good luck

[slim flare]

The big one on the forum

[waxen grail]

If the Wessex fossils are similar enough maybe they could make a decent alt?

[hollow furnace]

I have the biggest of them

[silver steeple]

If you mean the 300 species one

[hollow furnace]

There were multiple big ones on the forum

[silver steeple]

That was fan made I believe

[hollow furnace]

It wasn’t

[digital pendant]

yeah they were very similar size wise, xenorhino was just slightly less chunk and potentially had a larger nasal structure and other features of animals that live in hotter environments like larger ears

[hollow furnace]

Mau posted it

[shell sonnet]

we're probably not getting a bary alt

[silver steeple]

Huh interesting

[slim flare]

The one with DLCs and listed Triceratops as an omnivore

[left spear]

Beautiful animal

[silver steeple]

I could have sworn that was a fan thing

Been many many years since I saw it

[slim flare]

One of the DLCs was about feathery animals

[hollow furnace]

Ah you’re thinking of a different list

[slim flare]

Ah, but no Guanlong stays

[digital pendant]

the old 300 species list wasnt a fan thing, was posted by mau on the forums

[hollow furnace]

I’ll need to see if I can hunt that one down

[digital pendant]

uber ancient stuff however

[silver steeple]

So I've heard

[slim flare]

I’m just curious

[left spear]

What about for Preno

[silver steeple]

Preno seems not especially as likely to me

[left spear]

We have more fragmentary animals

[steep tulip]

Its not, but I very much think it was found there

[slim flare]

It was an EA species

[left spear]

They can base It off other Alvarezsaurids

[shell sonnet]

two wrongs don't make a right

[left spear]

I don't see how it's a wrong at all

[slim flare]

So the forums don’t exist at all anymore?

[silver steeple]

Would rather switch it out for a megaraptoran to fill in the weird size gap we have rn

[silver steeple]

I am aware

[slim flare]

We need small Pachycephalosaurid 😤

[silver steeple]

That doesn't guarantee it is still planned

[shell sonnet]

Stegoceras

[left spear]

Also huh no Megaraptoran

[silver steeple]

Neotenic stygi

[austere sparrow]

NGL I really want every single species that had a model in the past back except Lythronax who the hecc cares about Lythronax

[digital pendant]

nope

its dead

[steep tulip]

Stegoceras is peak
Unironically

It's quite different from all other pachys

[left spear]

Hey i like Lythy

[silver steeple]

Stegoceras is nice

[left spear]

Admitedly a gluppshito

But i like it

[austere sparrow]

Why? 🤨

[left spear]

Idk i do, mini Rex and seemingly chunkier than the average tyrannosaur

[slim flare]

I believe we should expect all EA species eventually

[silver steeple]

But I do think if we get a second (third if you could stygi separate ig) then I do think an asian pachy would be a better choice

[left spear]

Everyone has their weird Liked species

[austere sparrow]

...If this means that that silly-ass giant species list from the forum days is back...

[shell sonnet]

Stegoceras sits on the other side of the pachy family, that makes it more unique in my book

[silver steeple]

Tenonto, Sauropelta, Nothronychus, and Deinon beg to differ

[austere sparrow]

I mean that's fair but like. Usually people go for like. Stuff that has any interesting aspects about it at all 😔

[ancient ibex]

TTBT, it gets complex because the likely scenario is Suchomimus having evolved from Bary-like ancestors

[steep tulip]

I knew about stegiceras before pachy, and when I discovered all the books went with the long name for the dome headed dinosaur I got kinda sad

[left spear]

I have Lythronax and Devincencia, Ha-Satan has Teratornis, droid has champosaurus

[silver steeple]

For the record, I'm not saying Preno is impossible or whatever

[ancient ibex]

Preno is a neat Nemegt animal

[silver steeple]

I just think if it is coming, its almost certainly not in EA or immediately after

[shell sonnet]

would Sucho even work as an alt for Bary?

[silver steeple]

Maybe some DLC down the line or something

[left spear]

Preno is nice, but imo with the 2 pachys it's not a priority at all

[austere sparrow]

Preno is alright. Wouldn't mind it.

[left spear]

Nice for a DLC tho

[ancient ibex]

TTBT, yes

[shell sonnet]

I'm good with Preno, just think Stegoceras is more unique

[ancient ibex]

There is a reason Baryonyx tenerensis had some weight to it

[silver steeple]

Aren't there asian relatives of stegoceras as well

[sterile pulsar]

what did you suggest

[slim flare]

They’re coming…

[austere sparrow]

Statements that make me go "what the heck have I been missing about Stegoceras"

[steep tulip]

I was talking more about bary being found in wessex
The formation it was found in shares some of the fauna with it and I don't see why it couldn't be the same with bary

[shell sonnet]

nope, they're all from NA

[silver steeple]

ECNA dlc when

[slim flare]

ECNA?

Early Cretaceous

[silver steeple]

Early Cretaceous North America

[slim flare]

NDA DlC when

[left spear]

Uhhhhh cooler name and uhhhhhhhhhhh

[austere sparrow]

EULA DLC when

[left spear]

Europe laramidia DLC?

Tf is that acronym

[austere sparrow]

I see we're back to the Pyroraptor school of animal suggestions

[ancient ibex]

Yeah, we call those Ceratosuchops and Ripariovenator; they are literally Baryonyx 2 million years or so later, clading with Suchomimus which gives emphasis to Sucho evolving from, well, older Baryonychines

[slim flare]

I want Prenocephale because Nemegt and as a replacement for JPOG Homalocephale

[left spear]

If course, add latenovenatrix It sounds cooler than stenonychosaurus

[silver steeple]

Homalo itself is too small yeah?

[austere sparrow]

Honestly I kinda want Homalocephale too

Terrariums mean justice for tiny shits 😤

[slim flare]

No, it’s just immature

[shell sonnet]

the skull is quite a bit different for one

[ancient ibex]

Homalo itself is a Preno relative whose dome would have to erupt

[slim flare]

Which means it probably got significantly larger, possibly Pachycephalosaurus-like

[austere sparrow]

No I remember that; that looks more similar to Pachycephalosaurus to me, tho?

[ancient ibex]

It doesn't

That Stegoceras also doesn't have a fully erupted dome I believe

[shell sonnet]

These two look closer at the dome

[austere sparrow]

Yeah see Pachyceph has a real knobbly hind-dome

[silver steeple]

I think yall are confused on how young the Homalos are

[ancient ibex]

Size diversity in mature dinosaurs is a thing ttbt

[silver steeple]

The holotype seems to be almost fully grown, with there also being youngsters found

That's how we know its not a juvie Preno for example

But also

Its like just shy of 2m

So def large enough as is

[slim flare]

Homalocephale as Prenocephale alt

[ancient ibex]

Complete with dome as an adult

[silver steeple]

I guess you could probably do an ontogeny alt with them

[slim flare]

Unless it’s neotenous

[silver steeple]

Oh fun fact

It was suggested to be a juvie to begin with by Longrich lol

[steep tulip]

I don't see why it would necessarily relate to baryonyx itself tho
That's a pretty drastic change (at least from the material we have), also compared to other animals that lived with it and are found in both formations
They might as well split off earlier for what we know

[ancient ibex]

It is INCREDIBLY similar to Preno and nested by dome erupting animals

[outer moth]

Why not K NA?

[ancient ibex]

Homalo looks exactly like a Preno relative would look like before a dome eruption

[outer moth]

Since Cretaceous is marked by “K” and not “C”

[austere sparrow]

What does "dome erupting" mean, btw? It just occurred to me that that series of words makes no sense to me

[silver steeple]

Because I didn't make the acronym

[shell sonnet]

like a volcano

[austere sparrow]

There's many different types of volcano you'll have to be more specific

[ancient ibex]

#1360542295228944414 message

[tidal flame]

The Flat-Headed Peccary

just like you

[austere sparrow]

What is that meant to convey?

[shell sonnet]

look at the lower pictures, you can see the dome increasing in size and getting larger whilst also covering more of the skull

[silver steeple]

As the animal grows the dome "erupts" from a flat surface

[austere sparrow]

Right

Icy

[slim flare]

See Stegoceras

[left spear]

Essentially just vertical growth

[shell sonnet]

it gets wider

[austere sparrow]

Like bread in the oven

[slim flare]

Or Pachycephalosaurus/Stygimoloch

[left spear]

Also that

For example the one that shouldn't be named is a Young un-erupted pachycephalosaurus

[shell sonnet]

Yes but enough about Homalocephale

[harsh oxide]

Ramoceros and merriamceros would be cool choices to if we add pronghorn

[austere sparrow]

Neat

[left spear]

Huh, wouldn't mind It in a RE part 2

[slim flare]

It’s not recently extinct

[left spear]

Whoops

How old is it

[slim flare]

More than the late Pleistocene

[left spear]

Miocene

[slim flare]

Middle Miocene

[austere sparrow]

Does anyone remember where the heck in the Forums that old species list was stored

[left spear]

Huh It looked like something that went extinct 5000 years ago

[austere sparrow]

Trawling through Wayback machine trying to find it

[slim flare]

Can you send a link?

[austere sparrow]

https://web.archive.org/web/20140307143937/http://www.prehistorickingdom.com:80/forum/

[silver steeple]

Here's Merriamoceros for those curious

[slim flare]

I think 2014 may be too far

Would probably do 2016

[left spear]

I have never seen this, feel like i'm exploring a Mesopotamian necropolis

[digital pendant]

sounds about right

[harsh oxide]

Cuvieronius and illigoceros too

[low bridge]

OMG

[left spear]

Poghon

[silver steeple]

I feel like most of the reason to have Ramoceros is the variation, but given PK's limits on structural variation, the potential is kinda wasted on it

[low bridge]

Kyptoceras also NEAT addition

[silver steeple]

I feel like Tetrameryx or Capromeryx are better picks for pronghorns though

[toxic oriole]

I'm honestly curious

[harsh oxide]

Yeah

[toxic oriole]

Which Mesozoic shark of the cretaceous is larger than the other?
Leptostyrax or Cretoxyrhina?

[silver steeple]

Yeah pretty much

[low bridge]

Sivatherium with 2 species and 1 alt would be Nice

[slim flare]

Antediluvian PK

[steep tulip]

They are comparable in size

[low bridge]

Bramatherium alt for Siva

[left spear]

Honestly i'm surprised i haven't seen a single shark wishlist

[austere sparrow]

My internet is kinda ass, if anybody else wants to go digging for the old species list feel free to do it too

[left spear]

Any lead

Or clue

[austere sparrow]

OH SHIT

Found it

[left spear]

Oh

[toxic oriole]

You'd be mistaken

I've made a few

[austere sparrow]

Now lets see if it was saved

[slim flare]

Need aquatics confirmed first

[steep tulip]

There are estimates that put the former towards 10 tons, but they seem pretty fishy to me
Probably around the same weight too

[left spear]

Anyways for a non Otodus shark go Hybodus

[austere sparrow]

Yesssssss

[steep tulip]

All my wanted sharks proper are pretty small

[left spear]

Long ass living mf

[austere sparrow]

https://web.archive.org/web/20170326120412/http://www.prehistorickingdom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5025
Behold. The old species list

[steep crane]

Hybodus is nice.

Maybe Cretoxyrhina

[steep tulip]

Idc too much about cretoxyrhina

[steep crane]

underrated shark

it's subjected to the same treatment as meg

[shell sonnet]

Eagle shark is still the best

[toxic oriole]

Cretoxyrhina is part of the wishlist

[steep crane]

being restored as 'just a white shark'

[left spear]

Otto, Creto, Hybo, Aquil, Heli and the one with the hammer back i always forget the name of

[steep crane]

time to show that it isn't.

[toxic oriole]

Even then, the Sharp-Nose-Shark, as I translated Cretoxyrhina to...

[steep crane]

Heli all the way

[steep tulip]

I mean

[steep crane]

Though heli is closer to chimeras than sharks.

[steep tulip]

It was quite similar

[toxic oriole]

Theres alot of sharks to choose from

[austere sparrow]

Kimmerosaurus and Simolestes, whack

[steep crane]

FIlled the same niche, yeah.

[steep tulip]

Typical lamniform shark

[toxic oriole]

And if its gonna be Megalodon someday, I'll start with Cretalamna

[steep tulip]

We have several well preserved fossils of cretoxyrhina

[austere sparrow]

Huh, they wanted both Megalosaurus and Torvosaurus, back in the day. Might mean it has a chance to come back

[toxic oriole]

And also evidence that it had hunted Pterosaurs according to one Pteranodon fossil

[steep tulip]

I mean I don't see why they wouldn't

[austere sparrow]

Conc and Yang are both here. Giga and Carch are also both here 🤔

[shell sonnet]

I'll just make this easier:

[steep crane]

Basically the White Shark to Tylo's Orca

[steep tulip]

Free snack floating in the water

[left spear]

Lycaenops? PK devs truly have always been based

[harsh oxide]

Onchsprystis would be a cool "shark" to add

[steep tulip]

Yep

Also not even a sawfish

[austere sparrow]

They always wanted both Albertosaurus species, whacky (although I think one of those has been split back into Gorgosaurus now)

[steep tulip]

Its still is a ray

[austere sparrow]

Onchoprystis is interesting in its own right I support it

[left spear]

Disturbing lack of Nothosaurus tho

[austere sparrow]

Nanuq is here

[harsh oxide]

Yep

[austere sparrow]

(So is Lythronax)

[steep tulip]

Not surprised

[shell sonnet]

even back then Mau hated Cotlyor

[left spear]

Let's gooo

Based

[steep tulip]

It was in the old concept art

[austere sparrow]

Both Nothronychus and Theri are here, interesting

[left spear]

Beipi?

[austere sparrow]

Sadly not seemingly

[left spear]

😔

Not everything can be a win i guess

[austere sparrow]

Ornitho and Galli are both here tho, I believe Orni was also on that old blurred image?

[slim flare]

I think this is a newer version

[steep tulip]

Yep
In the post ea plan

[shell sonnet]

wait, no Kentro, seriously

[austere sparrow]

Oviraptor philoceratops
Gigantoraptor erlianensis
Velociraptor mongoliensis
Deinonychus antirrhopus
Utahraptor ostrommaysorum
Austroraptor cabazai
Troodon formosus and Troodon sp. (arctic specimen)
Damn

[steep tulip]

Wuerhosaurus over kentro

[austere sparrow]

Wuerhosaurus

[steep tulip]

Stanky

[austere sparrow]

Ah. Hm

[left spear]

Wuerho is decent, but over Kentro?

Give me what Mau was smoking that day please

[steep tulip]

If we do get a cretaceous stegosaur, it better be this one

[left spear]

Uh

[austere sparrow]

Dippy, Amarga and Mamench are the only Sauropods we don't already have.

[shell sonnet]

also Shantungosaurus is on the list...

[steep tulip]

If stego gets an alt genus it should be the other guy

[left spear]

Is that the tiny dude?

[steep tulip]

Forgot the name

[austere sparrow]

Scelido was planned back then, whack

[left spear]

The endling

[steep tulip]

Based
Scelido is peak

[austere sparrow]

Amargasaurus? That's the sailed one

[left spear]

Oops wrong response

[shell sonnet]

yes

[left spear]

Meant angerys image sowy

[austere sparrow]

I was trying to answer lol

[steep tulip]

Oh
Its like a stegosaur mummy
Not described yet but it preserves soft tissue too

[austere sparrow]

Fucking Crichtonpelta

[left spear]

Oh neat

[steep tulip]

Best known cretaceous stego too

[shell sonnet]

even back then Trike was the only Chasmosaurine

[steep tulip]

All the others aren't really great material wise

[silver steeple]

There is some art for Toro

[austere sparrow]

Hella longass List of Ornithischians

[shell sonnet]

that's the most trike like one

[silver steeple]

Ok and

[left spear]

If i had a Nickle for every thyreophoran named after Chricton i would have 2 nickles, which isn't much, but it's weird It happened twice.

[austere sparrow]

Einiosaurus? KOSMOCERATOPS???

[shell sonnet]

might as well be the same thing

[austere sparrow]

Amazing picks those two tbh

But also why

[steep tulip]

Toro got a cool big frill tho

[left spear]

Einio is cool

[austere sparrow]

I like Einio

[slim flare]

Do we have a full species in game not on this list?

[left spear]

I can agree with Kosmo being a bit random

[austere sparrow]

Feels unique

[shell sonnet]

Leally

[austere sparrow]

Kosmo I have warmed up a lot to it is whacky

[steep tulip]

Also I don't buy "they are the same" until someone starts analysing their post cranial material too

[austere sparrow]

God fucking. Gryposaurus is in here

[steep tulip]

Grypeak

[silver steeple]

What's the problem with that

[slim flare]

Hadrosaur Kingdom!!

[silver steeple]

Grypo is neat

[austere sparrow]

...Redondasaurus? What

[slim flare]

Would prefer Maiasaura or Saurolophus

[austere sparrow]

I advocated for Grypo before but it's objectively a weirdass pick

[steep tulip]

I mean same but grypo cool too

[toxic oriole]

I overlayed the pictures and scaled em to the person, so uhhhh...

And this is what I got

[austere sparrow]

God the old Cenozoic list is pitiful

[toxic oriole]

This is both Cretoxyrhina and Leptostyrax by the way

[shell sonnet]

Wait Rhampho isn't being considered for a Pterosaur, that's like Frontier levels of bad

[steep tulip]

Yeah they are comparable

[austere sparrow]

Doesn't even have Elasmotherium

[left spear]

No Barinasuchus? PK has fallen, thousends must refund 😔

[steep tulip]

Idk where they got the 10 tons estimates for leptostyrax

[slim flare]

Ornithocheirus? Is that a joke?

[steep tulip]

When was this made

[silver steeple]

Yall gotta realize that this list is quite literally about 10 years old lmfao

[steep tulip]

Barina popularity is pretty recent

Yeah

[left spear]

Oh ik i'm just joking

[austere sparrow]

Metridiochoerus is in here

[silver steeple]

It has no bearing on modern PK

[austere sparrow]

Oh, so is Sivatherium

[shell sonnet]

are we talking about the land croc or Rhampho and Kentro not being included

[left spear]

Still puzzled by no Notho tho

[silver steeple]

Mostly Barina but that also applies

Sure weird choices whatever

[left spear]

Eh

[austere sparrow]

Let us have fun, gramps 😔 It's a good look into the priorities of the devs. And how utterly random they sometimes seem

[silver steeple]

But Mau was like 16 or something at the time

[left spear]

Wouldn't call either recently popular

[slim flare]

Where’s the common name list…

[silver steeple]

We do not speak of the great evil

[austere sparrow]

Oh damn not a single Marsupial I remember people complaining about that one

[slim flare]

But it may contain the original list…

[digital pendant]

reb and satan were around in the forum times

they are fully aware lol

[slim flare]

Unfortunately my ecosystem page was never archived

[silver steeple]

Oh I know Satan was

I wasn't referring to them with that message

[slim flare]

Would have contained a portion of the list

[digital pendant]

so many old forum members lost to time and life 😔

[slim flare]

Do you think anyone ever quoted the PK species list on the page? Before it was updated?

[feral cedar]

"Another ankylosaur" that's a funny way to spell Polacanthus

[slim flare]

Billion different options tbf

[shell sonnet]

they probably meant something like Euplo

[slim flare]

Probably not

[silver steeple]

Almost certainly

[shell sonnet]

looks like Mau did want apes

[silver steeple]

Such a funny thing to look back on

[slim flare]

Unofficial transcribing
https://web.archive.org/web/20160108194817/http://prehistorickingdom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3176

[austere sparrow]

Oh my god they edited the list already by the time the screenshot was taken
Two member posts are on the same page, and they mention animals that aren't on this version of the list (Germanodactylus and Purussaurus)

Insert that one picture with Stalin unpersoning a guy

[silver steeple]

Yeah I noticed that too lol

[austere sparrow]

Damn, now this right here is even juicier

I love the fact that Mau deleted Coty between lists

[silver steeple]

I think its funny that there are so many tyrannosauroids on this list

[slim flare]

It’s still nor perfect. I know cave hyena was on the original list or it’s DLCs

[slim flare]

Now we only have one (twoish)

[silver steeple]

Yup

If we assume all the EA stuff is still coming, its like 3?

Yuty, Guan, Tyranno/Tarbo

[austere sparrow]

Nasutoceratops was on the older list Satan linked, but not the newer one I found earlier, so I guess there's. Fucken' hope for everything

[silver steeple]

Lmao

[shell sonnet]

Pyroraptor was mentioned?

[austere sparrow]

Pinacosaurus lets gooo

[left spear]

Even he knewn he wanted it

[austere sparrow]

Oh, so this list has Kentrosaurus

[slim flare]

Yea, I believe feather DLC

[austere sparrow]

I love the utterly silly amount of omnivores btw

I recall around then a lot of omnivorous diet hypotheses really took off?

Damn. Ourano and Mutta, all the way back

OH SHIT

This version has Beipi

Dromaeosaurus of all things, too

[slim flare]

Yep

[low bridge]

Barinasuchus is neat, Fasolasuchus would rock in game

[austere sparrow]

Giga and Carch both, in this list, too

[slim flare]

Man if I had known the species list would become lost media…

[austere sparrow]

Nigersaurus and Cetiosaurus, pog

[toxic oriole]

Small update just to allign the specimens with the jaw of the sharks

[austere sparrow]

Oh hey Purussaurus fancy seeing you here

[low bridge]

Stomatosuchus where?

Sarcosuchus

[austere sparrow]

Moeritherium, hell yeah

Andrewsarchus lmfao

Bison latifrons all the way back here already 😭

[feral cedar]

This has got to be one of the species lists ever written

[low bridge]

Moeritherium lived with Arsinoitherium

Phiomia etc

[austere sparrow]

Merychippus as a mini exhibit animal while Velociraptor isn't is some peak silly behavior on Mau's part

[austere sparrow]

EZ we're looking through old PK species lists

Interesting stuff

[feral cedar]

Rhamphorhynchus as a mini 😭

[slim flare]

It was tiny at the time

[feral cedar]

Completely fumbling the entire premise of it as a coastal animal

[feral cedar]

wdym at the time

[austere sparrow]

The first list doesn't have any of the fake rhinos but the second one has Uinta and Megacerops so that's something

Lemme see that revisionist lists most recent snapshot to see if anything noteworthy changed

[feral cedar]

This is certainly a choice

[silver steeple]

Oh wait I see

[feral cedar]

First of all, all the ankylosaurs except for Sauropelta were omnivores?

[austere sparrow]

Euoplocephalus AND Ankylosaurus is kinda crazy tbh. Base game Crichtonpelta over Pinacosaurus is even crazier tho

[silver steeple]

This older list is from pre- EA planning lmao

[slim flare]

Which is what we want

[feral cedar]

Crichtonpelta and Microceratus as a mini are very JP-fan coded ngl

[silver steeple]

Ye fs

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/we-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-14928204287258878513

[silver steeple]

Just took me a minute to realize why there were multiple to begin with

[toxic oriole]

Behave yourself, lest you want to get Jurasskicked out of the park!!

[low bridge]

Borealopelta, Gastonia, Saichania,Tarchia where??? And Jakapil

[silver steeple]

This list predates Jakapil

[feral cedar]

Hypsilophodon being the only one out of all of these to be DLC is such an absurdly funny choice 😭

[silver steeple]

By like a lot

[hollow furnace]

Alright, that’s 2 of the 5 lists lol

[austere sparrow]

I mean the devs are still littering the games achievements, dev diaries and ingame text with Jurassic Park references so, yeah, lol

[silver steeple]

This is def back when PK had more JP influence

[feral cedar]

Now see that's where it gets interesting

Cause Nigel's dialogue is the polar opposite

[silver steeple]

Probably planned a JP inspired DLC at some point ngl

This game started out as a JP fangame/JPOG successor

[feral cedar]

Whoever writes the dialogue has it out for JP, Nigel shits on it whenever he gets the chance

[austere sparrow]

Damn, newest capture just sends you to the main site

[slim flare]

Can we still get that?

[silver steeple]

I mean

I'm down lmao

[austere sparrow]

I mean what JP species are still left?

If you say Segisaurus I will hunt you down irl

[silver steeple]

Mostly novel stuff I think

[slim flare]

Deinonychus, Corythosaurus, Mamenchisaurus… and then idk skins?

[toxic oriole]

.................................. Ceratosaurus

[feral cedar]

WHAT

[silver steeple]

Cerato is planned

[slim flare]

Oh yeah but Ceratosaurus dhould still be coming regardless

[feral cedar]

PYRORAPTOR BEFORE DOMINION WAS EVEN CONCEPTUALIZED AS DLC IS CRAZY

😭

[toxic oriole]

THEY PREDICTED THE FUTURE!?

HOLY SHIT!!!

[silver steeple]

Nah

[slim flare]

Mr. Prenocephale Might Not Be Coming Back says for certain Ceratosaurus is coming back?

[austere sparrow]

Pyroraptor was the breakaway star of Dinosaur Planet back in the day (not to be confused with Planet Dinosaur)

[silver steeple]

Because Cerato was confirmed by Mau

By name

Unlike preno

[outer moth]

Balaur as a mini is pretty funny

[toxic oriole]

Well theres still a few missing species...

[slim flare]

When?

[silver steeple]

And yeah I was gonna bring that up as well

[silver steeple]

Same time as Bary iirc

[austere sparrow]

God Dinosaur Planet was my shit

[low bridge]

Is Jakapil small enough to be mini exhibit??

[austere sparrow]

Dinosaur Planet was a lot of Dino Documentary childrens shit

[feral cedar]

I like how between Yuty, Lythronax, and an albertosaurine it's TARBOSAURUS who is pondered as DLC

[silver steeple]

I loved Dinosaur Planet

[austere sparrow]

yee

[feral cedar]

yes but Scutellosaurus better

[silver steeple]

Tbf, alts weren't a consideration at the time

[feral cedar]

even worse

[silver steeple]

So anything that was too similar, ended up as DLC fodder

[austere sparrow]

Second screenshot is login gated 😭

...I don't think my old account would work through wayback so that's a shame

[austere sparrow]

With some notable exceptions, such as the two Edmont species lol

[plush nacelle]

How old was Mau back then, 14-15?

[low bridge]

Are here fans of something like Moeritherium, Arsinoitherium??

[austere sparrow]

I like Moeritherium and Arsinoitherium. Would be neat to have

[silver steeple]

Well there's a difference in multiple species and alt genera

[low bridge]

Greatest semi aquatics ever

[hollow furnace]

Also, while the original has been lost to time I believe, here’s a copy of the 300 species list: https://web.archive.org/web/20180127001632/http://www.prehistorickingdom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5235

[slim flare]

For EA?

[austere sparrow]

Yeah, I guess they were just gonna pop a comb on one of them and give them different skins just, well, like what ended up happening

[austere sparrow]

OH MY GOD

Thank you

[silver steeple]

If it was the same message then yeah

[ancient ibex]

It was Allo

[silver steeple]

I'll see if I can dig it up

[low bridge]

Real

[austere sparrow]

Candadian Shuck Fish lmfao

Oh Tiktaalik!

Was wondering

[low bridge]

Tbh Embolotherium, Megacerops would be great in game as non pleistocene stuff

[silver steeple]

Erior was right

[slim flare]

Ceraro unconfirmed

Billions must die

[austere sparrow]

God the 300 animal species list is some. Fucking whack shit

[slim flare]

That’s not even the full list

It’s missing DLC like Tarbosaurus and cave hyena

[austere sparrow]

No Cotylorhynchus, but yes Angelosaurus

Mau's Coty hate goes back far

[plush nacelle]

Toxodon platensis - common toxodon

No common name

Just toxodon

[austere sparrow]

Amazing common name ten outta ten no notes

Asthenocormus???

[low bridge]

Mixotoxodon?

[austere sparrow]

God I thought EZ had whack suggestions

[slim flare]

We need to find the official PK common names

[silver steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976391954550124586/1345803348435013663/boxoftruthnukes.gif

[austere sparrow]

Also Lycaenops even this far back. Wondering if it has an unironic chance lol

[slim flare]

Coelodonta antiquitatis; Eurasian Wooly Rhinoceros
What’s the non-Eurasian woolly rhinoceros???

[plush nacelle]

6 primates. Based

[outer crater]

Doesn't this mean they have to add them or else the Kickstarter lied?

[slim flare]

Yes!

[austere sparrow]

"That would be your mother."

[outer crater]

Imagine if they decide not add them

[slim flare]

I think this is the best list we have closest to the 300

[austere sparrow]

HOLY SHIT INCISIVOSAURUS IS ON THIS LIST

Vindication

[slim flare]

Maybe in my insanity I will cross-reference it with the common name list and then rewrite it closer to the original format…

[silver steeple]

Lmfao

[austere sparrow]

Also Alvarezsaurus in here instead of Shuvuuia from the later list

Whacky

If we get another Alvarezsaur here I'd expect Mononykus but. Guess that's not happening for a bit

[low bridge]

Mauisaurus there on that list

[austere sparrow]

Also god, Velo Deino Utah Austro trio goes way back huh

[austere sparrow]

Ikr

It's Maui time

[plush nacelle]

Tbf one of the kickstarter goals were rangers and Mau still removed them

[austere sparrow]

jeholornis... Be still my heart... 😔

Fuckin' Mussaurus

[plush nacelle]

Somehow no moa

[austere sparrow]

...Why the fuck is Mamenchisaurus hochuanensis "Zhao's club titan"

[silver steeple]

*Quadrio

[austere sparrow]

...Yes.

[low bridge]

They got Platybelodon

And Palaeoloxodon Falconeri

[austere sparrow]

..."Spinebeast" as a common name for Stegosaurs is the first of these common names I don't find completely ludicrous

Damn, Mutta, Campto AND Tenonto coexisting on this list

Leptoceratops

Vindication for the Hell creek crew

...Bagaceratops okay

Montanaceratops okay

Lmfao

Still no non-Triceratopsini Chasmosaurs

[steep tulip]

Common names for dinosaurs are quite hard because the vast majority of animals today got their original meaning shaped over time

[silver steeple]

I would enjoy more HC little fellas

[steep tulip]

So you would have to sorta account for that or they end up sounding goofy imo

[silver steeple]

Idk it just feels better for cohab-ing lol

[austere sparrow]

Honestly the best approach to common names is to use translations of the name forced to themselves sound like a name and like

Even that feels kinda dumb

[silver steeple]

99% of the time, an extinct animal's common name is just the genus

[austere sparrow]

Although I love the idea of calling Anurognathids "Frogmouth Pterodactyls"

[steep tulip]

Anteater kinda like that
In spanish is ant eating bear

[steep tulip]

Also true

[silver steeple]

Common names are just the thing that most people call an animal

[austere sparrow]

God Gomphotherium and Deinotherium aren't just flukes they stuck around through quite a few lists

[silver steeple]

Technically, Boa's common name is just the genus name lol

[austere sparrow]

Would really not mind them coming back; Gompho especially

[steep tulip]

Crocodiles, hippos rhinos
No idea which one came first tho

[silver steeple]

Gomph specifically is almost amusing to me

[austere sparrow]

Gomph is really funny considering Platybelodon is also on the list

[steep tulip]

I imagine the common name
At least for these

[silver steeple]

Exactly

[austere sparrow]

I wouldn't mind both, and I guess they could share anims but like. Funni

[silver steeple]

Mhm

If I had to pick tho

Its gonna be Platy

[plush nacelle]

It looks crazy tbh

[austere sparrow]

God so many primates... 💔

[silver steeple]

Yeah ambelodontids, or whatever the group name is, are goofy as all hell

[austere sparrow]

Buddy is lucky elephants survived otherwise we'd be doing Spinosaurus tier shit with its recons

...It occurs to me that the "We have to check if we can use this thing for other animals" thing in the artbook might have been prompted by them deciding against adding Amebelodontids

[slim flare]

Wayback machine is unfortunately seemingly the only website that preserved the PK list at all

[plush nacelle]

What thing.

[austere sparrow]

Not sure if it was animations or rigs

One of the two

[plush nacelle]

Right. Righ sharing. I feel like we will get second basic sloth after megatherium

Either mylodon or megalonyx

[slim flare]

Hopefully

[austere sparrow]

Fingers crossed

[steep tulip]

What about doedicurus

I mean wouldn't complain if we get glyptodon too

[slim flare]

Probably coming in U19

[steep tulip]

I meant with rig sharing

Doubt its gonna use an existing one

[flint sable]

PUPPY

❤️

[bleak garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/dodo-walking-bird-natural-history-museum-alive-waddle-gif-4603674700934247407

dodo

best thing ever

https://tenor.com/view/thylacine-tasmanian-tiger-tasmanian-tiger-color-gif-24516611

and taz tiger

[glass urchin]

Prionosuchus and Koolasuchus 🐸

[neat iris]

https://tenor.com/view/walking-with-beasts-walking-with-prehistoric-beasts-next-of-kin-deinotherium-elephant-gif-203432927498064994

[winter willow]

As much as I would squee over the Thylacine making an appearance, they only became officially extinct in the 20th century (and the idea that there may be some still kicking around the Tasmanian bush refuses to die), so the don't necessarily possess the right "feel" for the game. There's certainly other Australian animals I'd prefer to see; the marsupial lion for instance.

[hollow furnace]

We are getting a recently extinct DLC after the game fully releases, it's almost certain that will include thylacine

[winter willow]

So long as they have the dislocating jaw thing

[neat iris]

https://tenor.com/view/mamoth-cemamo-gif-10713893

[austere sparrow]

This gif with mr bombastic playing tho...

[neat iris]

https://tenor.com/view/biggie-cheese-biggiecheese-aesthetic-gif-20932775

[austere sparrow]

Sorry but the Thylacine sightings are almost definitely nonsense 😔

[neat iris]

Australian megafauna plz devs

Procoptodon, diprotodon, megalania, thylacoleo

[flint sable]

definitely

although I just recently thought about it a little more

because apparently there arent foxes in tasmania

somehow

or at least there isnt a single sighting on INAT

[final yarrow]

i am the thylacine

you’ll never catch me alive

BECAUSE I’VE BEEN DEAD

[cinder python]

Stegotetrabelodon

Hexaprotodon

[feral cedar]

Stegotetrabelodon looks like something out of Tolkien's books

[flint sable]

fun fact

pygmy hippo was originally in Hexaprotodon

[slim flare]

And might still be

[flint sable]

indeed

[sterile pulsar]

THE "BETTER" spinosaurus as a skin for April fools

[late swallow]

No

[neat iris]

Yes please, that would be so funny

Also, have the columbian mammoth and dwarf elephant been confirmed, or are they still just speculative?

[hollow furnace]

not confirmed

[neat iris]

In that case, elephant wishlist:

• Sicilian Dwarf Elephant
• Columbian Mammoth
• Deinotherium
• American Mastodon

[late swallow]

Really, P. falconeri over M. exilis?

Intriguing choice

[neat iris]

I keep forgetting that Pygmy mammoths are a thing

But regardless I’d still go with the dwarf elephant

[outer crater]

You forgot Platybelodon

[neat iris]

Another good choice

[feral cedar]

it’s a personal wishlist

[austere sparrow]

Everybody goes for P.falconeri lel

That's the Zoo Tycoon 2 difference

[plush nacelle]

Everybody goes for falconeri, because it is the smallest

Pygmy mammoth aint that small thus not as much fun

[tidal estuary]

You got stegodon too for South east asia

[glass timber]

What about tortoises?

[desert flame]

I feel like giant amphibians could be added to both the terrarium exhibit and the regular exhibit.

[low bridge]

Meiolania, Stupendemys, Megalochelys

[cinder python]

Purussaurus

[clever orbit]

I think the main thing I'm hoping for are more varied mammals from warmer climates. Particularly grassland and rainforest - these two biomes are extremely important to the evolution of mammals in the Cenozoic. I feel like Pleistocene Eurasia is well covered now (as well as any more Rhino adjacent species - as much as I love them).

It would be great to have not just icons such as Megatherium, Glyptodonts etc. but also some herding animals such as Macrauchenia, Synthetoceras, Sivatherium.

[sharp plinth]

brachytrechalopan would be funni

[desert flame]

Regarding tropical mammals, Hyaenodon and Daeodon have been planned in the past, and there are rumors that Megatherium and Doedicurus will be added in Update 19.

[low bridge]

Menoceras, Chilotherium, Stephanohirnus as rhinos

[clever orbit]

Yeah they'll be great, but I just love seeing herds of mammals. It's why I'm hoping the bison stays in the roster. There's something about seeing a herd of megaloceros with a pair of elasmotherium wandering between.

[desert flame]

Regarding Bos, I have heard rumors that it will be included in the EA animal list and will be one of the herbivores that will be added in Update 19.

[cinder python]

Kelenken

[low bridge]

Lepictedium,Eohippus would be also good tropical mammals

[low bridge]

Jebel Qatrani animal pack:
Moeritherium
Arsinoitherium
Phiomia
Paleomastodon

[lost magnet]

Exactly; and it comes with Indonesian dwarf species

[lost magnet]

And if aquarium enclosures become a thing I'd also say Archelon
And Pappochelys for terrarium enclosures

[lost magnet]

And also a smaller terrorbird maybe like Andalgalornis and/or Procariama

[lost magnet]

Based
Also, how about a few Sebecids like Sebecus, Barinasuchus and Dentaneosuchus

[low bridge]

Prehistoric Grassland animal expansion:
Stegotetrabelodon
Metridiochoerus
Dinofelis
Ancylotherium
African Mammoth
Hipopotamus Gorgops
Agriotherium
Rusingoryx

[lean hound]

No sivatherium??

wow

suprising

[plush nacelle]

No grasslands outside africa

[lean hound]

ah

[lost magnet]

How about adding Hominins outside of the genus Homo?

Zoo worthy or too human-like?

But at least a few primates deserve a spot in the game tho

And preferably not just Gigantopithecus

At least add Dinopithecus too

[late swallow]

Farthest I'd be willing to take primates is Gigantopithecus, Dinopithecus, and Darwinius, but facial animations for primates can be an insane task

[lost magnet]

Fair point

But would it still be ethical to keep Hominins like Paranthropus or Australopithecus as zoo animals (assuming it could reasonably be done as far as the devs are concenred)

[austere sparrow]

Not sure it's ethical to keep the apes we already have in zoos, being perfectly honest

[low bridge]

Sivatherium is too goood to be put into expansion

[austere sparrow]

Literally too good for PK 😤

Do not let the filthy Coty-haters touch the pristine Megaokapi

[late swallow]

That's also how I feel

Nothing really past lemur imo

[austere sparrow]

I am okay with stuff up to and including gibbons but. Yeah

[late swallow]

-# G. g. gorilla shouldn't be in zoos.

[austere sparrow]

😔 Yeaaaaaah

I guess all the fucking apes are endangered (except us) and they are among the animals that seem to do okay rewildering from zoos wise but. Ugh

Don't likey

[left spear]

Any great ape and cetaceans shouldn't be in zoos really

[shell sonnet]

Some cetaceans do okay, Belugas come to mind

[steep tulip]

ehh

they do better, but I wouldnt say well

or ok

for great apes is a bit different, hard to say for sure how happy they are, but generally speaking they face a lot less issues than cetaceans or other large pelagic animals

its less about intelligence and more about how their bodies are designed to move

[ancient ibex]

Elephants do worse than either

Anti-zoo animalistic propaganda also tends to focus on personal feelings rather than animal husbandry

[digital pendant]

apes can be kept well provided they get a lot of space, privacy and enrichment

cetaceans and elephants are by far the ones that have it worse

elephants can be kept well, BUT provided you give them lots of space and proper group dynamics

[late swallow]

A lot of zoos just don't keep up on the husbandry, whether out of neglect or lack of funding, and its really sad

[digital pendant]

example, the cabarcenos park has a MASSIVE elephant exhibit which imo is the way to go

[late swallow]

Loxodonta or Elephans?

[digital pendant]

https://www.ausuddespyrenees.com/wp-content/uploads/Cabarceno.Parque.Cantabria.jpg

peak loxodonta hours

https://www.canariasviaja.com/viajaresvivir/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Cabarceno-blog18.jpg

ah ofc it doesnt embed

[late swallow]

They're rather mobile and have large territories, don't they?

[digital pendant]

the cable car is cool, good for a less intrusive experience

[late swallow]

Brawn

[austere sparrow]

Great Apes objectively seem to do okay in captivity, but like.... I do believe they were among the species that could survive in those cursed metal-concrete boxes of old

Also damn that's a crazy ass elephant exhibit

They are cohabiting with other animals. Nice but surreal to see

...Wait actually

Are those just more elephants

[ancient ibex]

Was at Cabárceno just a year ago; space is great, but IMO I believe some enrichment would be a great complementary thing to have; elephants need room to roam, but also stuff to do, and social intelligent animals do endulge in nobel behaviours

[digital pendant]

aye, some old trunks and stuff would be nice for them to have

though having the space to roam is already great enough on its own

[ancient ibex]

Bears are also incredibly hard to get to properly thrive in captivity

Intelligent animals that thrive doing multiple different things

[digital pendant]

yeah

bears do need their space and toys

especially food enrichment

[ancient ibex]

For instance, the gorillas at Cabárceno share space with De Brazza monkeys, and I caught a gorilla outright petting the monkey

Even a degree of human contact can work as enrichment

[late swallow]

Explains why U. spelaeus is assigned to all 5 diets

[ancient ibex]

Closest living relative will engage on all of those

spelaeus may had been more veggie focused, but for sure it'd engage on fish, meat and insects

And multiple diets being required, and increasing number of food enrichment, IS good bear keeping; hoping Arctodus also requires plenty of foods and toys down the line!

[austere sparrow]

I really hope they add dozens and dozens of bear enrichments for big bear, they deserve it

[feral cedar]

Arctodus and cave bear enclosure and they’re besties

[austere sparrow]

I hope interspecies enrichment becomes a thing lol

[digital pendant]

best gorilla exhibit i have seen is at the atlanta zoo, its actually a bunch of different ones on a large complex. A massive central one for the female group with the lead male and the young ones, and separate enclosures to keep the males on bachelor or elder groups. they are separated by moats and electric fencing which lets the gorillas see each other and communicate. They all got lots of toys and places to hide if they dont want to be seen

if we ever get giganto, im definitely gonna use that exhibit as a model for their exhibit design

[feral cedar]

I know this might be a bit impossible but I’d love it if rexes are way more social if they’re raised with a social tyrannosaurid

Like you wouldn’t normally be able to keep too many

But if a rex grew up with like, Albertosaurus or something, it’s far more tolerant

The social dynamic between a rex and a tarbo LOL

[late swallow]

Which is which lmao

[slim flare]

Yes

[late swallow]

Real

[shell sonnet]

Which is amazing given how bad the old Atlanta one was

[digital pendant]

the zoo has been improving which is nice

the new african area is so much nicer

the elephants got a whole lot more room to move and do stuff

[feral cedar]

rex is the tiger lol

[slim flare]

Tiger looks like the Tarbosaurus skin tho

[lost magnet]

So no greater apes?

[austere sparrow]

That's what I said

[lost magnet]

Alr, so nothing beyond the lesser apes then

[austere sparrow]

That's like. Three animals 10 if you count by species

[lost magnet]

Wait, the only lesser apes are gibbons

[low bridge]

Dinopithecus aka "Terrible Monkey" would Fit in Prehistoric Kingdom

First Mammoth also

[slim flare]

Dinopithecus is the first mammoth

[low bridge]

First Mammoth is Mammuthus Africanavus