Community Species Suggestions

[final yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-slug-seaslug-bunny-gif-19060004

[late swallow]

hey you wanna explain this

[austere sparrow]

Distribution of animals
🐜 means barely anything
🦂 means a slight amount
🦛 🦣 🐘 Means a large amount

[final yarrow]

just do

ant

goat

mammoth

that seems reasonable lol

[wild relic]

Meiolaniid turtles are really cool 😎

[flint sable]

fun fact about meiolaniids

they are currently the oldest group of animals humans have made extinct

evolving in the early cretaceous

[flint sable]

to my knowledge anyway

[wild relic]

They actually appeared in the middle eocene

[flint sable]

Meiolaniidae is Eocene

[wild relic]

You're thinking of meiolaniformes

[flint sable]

yeah

basically the same thing tho

[wild relic]

This is the specific family we're talking about tho not the whole group

[flint sable]

fair enough

but Meiolaniformes essentially is Meiolaniidae

theres a few basal taxa but a majority of the group is in Meiolaniidae

[austere sparrow]

Hope Nautiloids, Coelocanths and Vampire Squids make it

...As in like. Survive. Lol. Oof.

Horseshoe crabs! 🙃

[tidal flame]

Sense when is nanotyrannus valid?

[late swallow]

-# [A# it's not, but people are full of copium]

[median relic]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-bus-stop-angry-shouting-gif-5144560278104615828

oh no

let me see if I can link back to an old convo

#science-chat message

[tidal flame]

I don't know man, the evidence against it basically counters all evidence for it

[median relic]

it literally doesn't

I linked a convo we had recently where we talked about the evidence

nanotyrannus would have to lose alveoli, completely reshape its anatomy in many ways to grow into a t rex

[tidal flame]

hmmmmm

[median relic]

it's more likely than you think

I used to think of it as a joke too

[tidal flame]

I would like you to elaborate on it needing to completely reshape its anatomy

Im on the fence about it

i have been for a long time

[median relic]

we have definitive young rexes now that are similar in size to animals like Jane, and they look nothing alike

also we now know that Jane and the Nano holotype are almost completely mature

we also have young tarbosaurus and they look nothing like nanotyrannus, but do look like the newly found "teen rex"

[median relic]

and here is what is likely nanotyrannus

[tidal flame]

Would be interesting how nanotyrannus interacted with young tyrannosaurs as we could assume they filled the same niche

[toxic oriole]

I take it you put the Teen Rex in quotations due to the limited material or is it something else?

[tidal flame]

Theoretically of course

[median relic]

just because it's a nickname

[median relic]

similar maybe

but multiple animals can fill the same niche

without nanotyrannus we would have still found no evidence of mesopredators in hell creek

nothing between small dromaeosaurs and tyrannosaurus

[tidal flame]

That’s what sparked the theory that young tyrannosaurs filled those roles

I wonder how often they may have interacted, how successful would they be compared to each other etc.

[lost magnet]

I think Gorgosaurus is the perfect example

We found a juvenile with an Oviraptorosaur leg in its stomach

Adult Gorgosaurus wouldn't be bothered hunting Oviraptorosaurs

[median relic]

honestly they could be

seems like fairly reliable small game

[winter willow]

I wonder if we'll see larger flying animals. Quetzacoatlus would be amazing

[toxic oriole]

Keep this in mind

This is pinned in #pk-discussion, underneath the most recent pin

If the game does well financially on release, theres a chance aquatic animals and aerial ones will show up someday

Only time will tell.........

[winter willow]

Honestly, given the quality of the game (I'd rate it above both Jurassic Park Evolution and Planet Zoo), I would be actually fine with them making a game that is just aquatic species

Like Megaquarium but prehistoric

Like, this game is amazing given the small team. Sure, I'd love to see more animals, and its missing some features I'd like (vehicles and public transport for instance), but its remarkably complete, easy to get into but with a lot of depth (comparing my recent parks to my old ones is a hell of a testament to that), and just fun to noodle around in. I'll load up a save just to walk around my park and look at the dinos

[hollow valve]

With animals on topic, has anyone suggested this fella here for a potential Avian Addition?: https://www.reddit.com/r/pleistocene/comments/1d0d14v/ornimegalonyx_oteroi_the_gigantic_owl_of/

[lost magnet]

But Oviraptorosaurs are fast and agile compared to an adult or subadult Gorgosaurus and it gives them little to feed on
It's simply not worth the trouble
Leave those for the juveniles

[lost magnet]

Fuck yeah!

[lost magnet]

I'd still prefer to have an all in one bc prehistory is just as diverse as the modern day if not more diverse

[frozen gyro]

My top pic for a out of enclosure free roam pterosaur is: Rhamphorhynchus, this small pterosaur will groom the visitors hair, and fly around perching on the ledges of enclosure fences, railways, and will tend to act like your average parrakeet being curious, and saying cute lines it hear around form visitors. would eat from the fish feeder, and the newly added bug wind feeder (Took this form JWE2) where they can catch little bugs as they fly around. I have a diesign the devs can use as I will likeley forget where I left my drwing at xD

[austere sparrow]

...Fun idea but. You might want to use a different Pterosaur for it. Especially since Rhamph is a piscivore, not an insectivore

Not sure about voice mimicking Pterosaurs, either. I guess for JW it wouldn't be too outlandish but. Probably too much for PK.

[sharp plinth]

Artic pack 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥

[restive eagle]

what the fuck is that

[frozen gyro]

Read the part where it says fish

[lost magnet]

I wouldn't necessarily make it a free roaming Pterosaur
And for the concept you'd be better off with Anurognathus

[lost magnet]

Polar pack*

[frozen gyro]

ah yea. got a different one ind mind: Sinomacrops

[lost magnet]

Sure

Although I'm still not sold on the free roaming thing

[final yarrow]

so

what is Nanotyrannus’s case right now

[lost magnet]

Juvi Tyranno

[left spear]

Until the paper comes out yes

Tho it's probably gonna result in an adolescent Rex nontheless

[late swallow]

Even after, Cleveland skull was only thought to be fused at first, but that's due to the fine particulate matrix it's in [that's more for sci chat]

[glacial thicket]

when will they add marine creatures or pterosaurs

[left spear]

After EA

But realistically only if the Game sells well

Expect It no earlier than late 2027

[hollow valve]

Ornimegalonyx. The largest owl to ever live.

[late swallow]

And yes, requested a handful of times

Good choice tho

[wild relic]

Cool stuff for the Elliot formation

[austere sparrow]

Read the part where you made it an insectivore that sometimes eats fish 😭

[plush nacelle]

Ceratodus by far the best pick from elliot

[austere sparrow]

You don't believe in "Unnamed stupid huge amphibian thing"?

[sharp plinth]

tomato tomahto

[plush nacelle]

Polar pack could be banger tho

[left spear]

Beast of Lesotho?

[desert flame]

I thought 23 was koolasuchus.

[wild relic]

Nope it's an undescribed giant Jurassic salamander

[desert flame]

So it's a new species?

[left spear]

Very fragmentary

Essentially Hector's icthyosaur/Aust colossus temnospondyl version

[desert flame]

oh ok

[lost magnet]

Probably

[shell sonnet]

there's plenty of Megaquarium mods that fill this role

[wild relic]

I asked two of my best friends what dinosaur they'd want to see in PK was Latenivenatrix

[slim flare]

Troodon species complex

[plush nacelle]

No way

[austere sparrow]

Sad but true: Proof that Megaquarium is better than Prehistoric Kingdom 😔

[shell sonnet]

Honestly, in terms of gameplay I would say that Megaquarium is better than pretty much any other zoo builder game. It's got enough to be both relaxing and challenging at the same time.

[bleak garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/sauropod-allosaurus-running-jumping-animal-gif-17282623

diplodokus

[final yarrow]

honestly i'd be fine if we got a troodontid instead of deinonychus

if its a similar size but not fragmentary at least

or like

idk

[late swallow]

Hell of an opinion there bud

But of course you're welcome to it

[final yarrow]

i mean

we have Velociraptor

we're getting Utahraptor

why not have a Troodontid too

[late swallow]

Acro needs friends

[final yarrow]

that isnt a herbivore?

[wild relic]

Yes

And Deinon imo takes more priority because of how important it was and still is

[final yarrow]

true

[wild relic]

A troodontid can come after

[final yarrow]

ok yeah

u’ve won me over

Deinonychus

moment

[wild relic]

And it's a good size range too for representing different dromaeosaur sizes
Microraptor - tiny
Velociraptor - small
Deinonychus - medium
Utahraptor - large

[feral cedar]

micro, deinon, velo, utah, and austro is impeccable dromie rep

[wild relic]

I guess those are the big five dromaeosaurs

[feral cedar]

Velociraptor and Utahraptor cover the two subfamilies of dromaeosaurs

Deinonychus is a good size bridge, very popular, and very important

Microraptor represents the weird Chinese lineage with four wings and arboreal behavior

Austroraptor represents a weird South American lineage with piscivorous adaptations

[wild relic]

I think you should say mostly South American since we have found unenlagiines outside of South America

[feral cedar]

really?

All the ones I know are latinos

Pyroraptor doesn’t count

[wild relic]

Because of recent phylogenetics, sometimes halskaraptorines are included

As well as

[feral cedar]

Huh

wait what

[wild relic]

Rahonavis

Imperobator too

Even some probable unenlagiine remains in Australia

[late swallow]

I have opinions on the name of the clade Troodontidae

[ancient ibex]

Saurornithoidiidae better

[flint sable]

trust

it should just be called Dontidae

because

teeth

[winter willow]

I propose the inclusion of the bread raptor

[neat iris]

Spinofaarus when?

[winter willow]

Seriously though, an April fools update that adds, like, bread raptors and the original depiction of iguanadons would be kind of fantastic

Give me these dumb looking idiots

Lookithim!

[late swallow]

Original megalo too

[shell sonnet]

people ask for original crystal palace dinos and no one asks for Agathmus, the original Ceratosaurus, or original Stegosaurus

[neat iris]

And why stop there?

How about Jurassic World hybrids while we’re at it lmao

[flint sable]

sounds like a great way to be sued by universal

[neat iris]

True, unless someone mods them in

[flint sable]

that will happen

I guarentee it

[neat iris]

Because you know that people are going to start making mods based on various paleo media if PK ever has mod support

Especially Jurassic Park/World

[final yarrow]

PNG of the Drex

OMGAH THEY ADDED THE DREXX

THEY ADDED THE INDOM

that’d be funny and low effort for an april fools update

jpeg dinosaur

[late swallow]

Don't hurt yourself stretching

[lost magnet]

Based

[sharp plinth]

honestly id like any troodontid, besides troodon ofc.

[low bridge]

Top 3 Elephants for Peak Kingdom:
Moeritherium
Arsinoitherium
Platybelodon

[late swallow]

Platy good

Arsin fantastic name

[low bridge]

1 st is sea elephant

It can dive

Top 3 next rhinos for this masterpiece game:
Menoceras
Stephanohirnus
Chilotherium

Last one reminds me of boar

[plush nacelle]

EZ, what about mammalian terrariums

[low bridge]

What about them, hmm i can't find a mammal so tiny to be placed in terrarium

Lepictedium is not good for terrarium since is forest floor dwelling mammal

[plush nacelle]

Think about animals simosuchus / comspognathus sized

[low bridge]

Hard to find one this size like them

[plush nacelle]

Interesting

[low bridge]

What about Ballusia????

[hollow flower]

Im all in on Leptictidium terrarium

[neat iris]

Mastodon and deinotherium

[neat iris]

Probably not rhinos, but embolotherium and/or megacerops

[hardy rock]

Honestly, I really fw the retrosaur april fools thing

[late swallow]

Imo we have enough rhinos, some more variance would be nice

[left spear]

Yeah i think until like the third DLC or so we're good with rhinos

For that style of mammal a toxodont is way more urgent

[late swallow]

We have 6

[left spear]

?

Or rather

[late swallow]

Elasmotherium
Sinotherium
Coelodonta
Paraceratherium c2
Juxia

[left spear]

Ah of that type of mammal

Well yes we need other types of animals more but not really comparable

[late swallow]

3 rhinos phenotypically

[ancient ibex]

Brontotheres were horse-adjacent and Arsinoitherium was a hyrax/elephant/manatee thingamajig, so they can feel quite un-rhino-like after all

[tidal estuary]

Hey atleast you can theme an area for it : Rhino World 🦏

[austere sparrow]

Rhinos are already horse-adjacent 😭

...I do still want Brontotheres, Uintatheres, and Arsinoitheres each; but I mean. I once again feel the need to point out that we desperately need more smaller animals, and mammals in particular 😔

[tidal estuary]

a smaller rhino perhaps...

[austere sparrow]

Teleoceras for Rhinozoic Kingdom

[low bridge]

Devs would love Arsinoitherium, Platybelodon

[ancient ibex]

TTBT, I'd enjoy getting hippo-adjacent stuff before getting the rhippo

[tidal estuary]

What other boreal animals should be added, because i feel like every boreal park can feels the same which unmotivates me to build there.. or maybe im biased

[digital pendant]

I would love an astrapothere of sorts, they are a weird rhino-hippo-tapir-elephant adjacent creature, it ticks all the boxes imo

[austere sparrow]

Ohhh Boreal animals worth adding, fun challenge? 🤔 Lemme double check which animals are boreal right now real quick

[digital pendant]

astrapotherium proper has potential for an alt the size of a malayan tapir (A. magnum) and for a white rhino sized one (A. burmeisteri)

[low bridge]

Granastraphotherium or Hilarcotherium

[digital pendant]

grana would be nice

its the weirdest one of the bunch and likely had a proper functional trunk

[low bridge]

What about some cheetah like Acinonyx Pleistocaenicus and Pardinensis?

Since Miracinonyx is closer to Puma

[digital pendant]

dire wolves 🙂

[austere sparrow]

I would honestly prefer Miracinonyx. More skin potential

[digital pendant]

for variety sake, Mylodon is a nice boreal animal

[austere sparrow]

Oh, I guess big wolf. Sure.

[digital pendant]

Mac was also present far south where mylodon was so it also counts a boreal animal

there was also a couple of early astrapotheres that lived in more boreal conditions during the eocene

[low bridge]

Cave Hyena?

[austere sparrow]

😭 A kingdom for more boreal animals that aren't just "fuzzier modern animal" ngl

Cave Hyena is okay

[tidal estuary]

oh Great Auk

[austere sparrow]

...Would Olorotitan and Kileskus count as boreal?

I wouldn't assume Kileskus could make it in on its own but like. As a Guanlong alt (since Guanlong was formerly planned in the past)

Hmm

The Itat Formation isn't that far north now, dunno how that compares to it in the Cretaceous

Oh, Olorotitan is from the same formation as Charonosaurus. Oops

...Actually nevermind that might be Wikipedia being dumb

[low bridge]

What about something like Moeritherium?

[austere sparrow]

Moeritherium is an Egyptian animal? It's a good choice but we were kinda trying to find boreal stuff rn

[ancient ibex]

NGL, PROCERATOSAURUS brings more to the table

[shell sonnet]

neither would be all that great

[austere sparrow]

Sure, but Funny name + Was trying to look for boreal animals specifically (even though it seems Kileskus wasn't one, anyway)

[ancient ibex]

Proceratosaurids proper don't really have much going beyond Guanlong ngl

[shell sonnet]

besides Yutyrannus

(yes proper but still)

[digital pendant]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuYZmDNWwAM8r5k?format=jpg&name=900x900 https://bioone.org/ContentImages/Journals/amnb/449/1/0003-0090.449.1.1/graphic/img-z4-2_04.jpg this is trigonostylops and it was the size of a large peccary. It was also found in antartica during the eocene

[ancient ibex]

Which is less boreal and more temperate with low temperature

[digital pendant]

could work as a sort of coastal/boreal mammal

its funny early astrapothere

[ancient ibex]

Notungulates are awesome additions ngl

[austere sparrow]

Very nice

Probably too obscure to have a chance but I'm rooting for it

[digital pendant]

megatherium also works as a boreal animal

[austere sparrow]

Also the dinobros might just kill the devs if the first antarctic species isn't a dinosaur

[digital pendant]

since it lived in the andean foothills and in central patagonia

[austere sparrow]

...Oh, I guess Antarctopelta is a potential boreal animal.

I believe Antarctica was too warm for boreal during the Jurassic, tho?

[ancient ibex]

Meridiungulates; friggin always mixing the names of the larger clade

[shell sonnet]

all hoofed mammals are the same

[ancient ibex]

Still long winter nights ttbt

[digital pendant]

woah an animal does look like related animals. Shocking revelation!

[low bridge]

Bison Latifrons, Priscus

[austere sparrow]

What was Patagonia during the Cretaceous like, biome/temp wise. Argentinosaurus is tropical but :/

[tough marsh]

irrc

arid

[ancient ibex]

I honestly see Massospondylus lowkey working by virtue of potential Sarahsaurus and Glacialisaurus alts; covering early jurassic NA, Africa and Antarctica

[tough marsh]

lufengasaurus

[ancient ibex]

IIRC there is some paleoclimate change between Candeleros and Huincul; I believe that may be related to why Rio Limay is no longer a single formation

[ancient ibex]

As well! Honestly, Lower Jurassic China is quite reminiscent of the NA equivalent

South Africa has the smol bois

[digital pendant]

ah ofc how could i forget, cuvieronius would be another nice boreal/temperate mammal, funny twirl tusked elephant

[ancient ibex]

Antarctica has a quite noteworthy dilophosaur-grade animal

[tough marsh]

AD can i ask a question

[shell sonnet]

but does it work as an alt

[digital pendant]

sure

[tough marsh]

any mid to late permian animals you would enjoy seeing

[digital pendant]

all of them

i enjoy all of those weirdoes

any that gets in is a big plus

[ancient ibex]

Of Dilo? Would require a new sculpt for the crest at least I believe, but body wise Cryo isn't that far off

[digital pendant]

though personally i would love to see moschops, that thing was big enough it could look at a person eye to eye

freaky mofo

[ancient ibex]

Gotta rep all the therapsid clades that didn't make it past turbo global warming

[late swallow]

@topaz igloo

[digital pendant]

estemmenosuchus is another weirdo i would love to see

[tough marsh]

fun fact moschops is undersized in most media and uses the "wrong" skull

[digital pendant]

oh im aware

which shocked me when i saw the mount at AMNH

cause that thing is TALL

[austere sparrow]

It is pretty hard to tell the difference, ur right 😰

[shell sonnet]

still stand by this listing for paleozoic land
Dimetrodon grandis/limbatus/angelensis
Moschops capensis/Ulemosaurus svijagensis
Cotylorhynchus romeri/hancocki
Ophiacodon mirus
Anteosaurus magnificus or Titanophoneus potens
Inostrancevia alexandri/latifrons
Edaphosaurus cruciger/pogonias/boanerges/novomexicanus
Scutosaurus karpinskii/Pareiasaurus serridens
Eryops megacephalus
Estemmenosuchus uralensis/mirabilis

Mini

Meganeura monyi or. Meganeuropsis permiana
Platyhystrix rugosus
Arthropleura armata
Diplocaulus magnicornis
Procynosuchus delaharpeae

[late swallow]

Tangential query: where do yall go to find out prehistoric climates

[tough marsh]

isnt that the Immature one

thats the one gregory did

[digital pendant]

the one on display isnt

but it has the wrong skull

i think the mount is a composite

[austere sparrow]

I usually just try to beat my head against wikipedia, what I SHOULD be doing is look up PaleoDB instead... 😅

[tough marsh]

yeah

[late swallow]

-# Way to go, Superstar!

[tough marsh]

sorry i know too much about permian

[digital pendant]

lol all good

i have seen your permian rants in mammalia, the good stuff 👌

[tough marsh]

i made a size chart of all tapinocephalians roughtly

[digital pendant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/475098518189506560/1400954212841427138/f24.jpg?ex=689c5b88&is=689b0a08&hm=78f44499cc92dd5a42854211f35ef17c12b1f71353c4bb996de142dd888a079f&

this stuff is peak

[tough marsh]

please note its very rough

[austere sparrow]

Who even needs porn with paleoart like this 😤

[late swallow]

Real

[late swallow]

Women are temporary, paleoart is forever

[ancient ibex]

Moschops is one of those mouth-filling names, love it

[tough marsh]

anyway criocephalosaurus should be the second pick for a tapinocephalian

[ancient ibex]

Could it work as an alt?

[tough marsh]

postcranially yes

[ancient ibex]

Mmm, and the dome shape, let's see how pachycephalosaurs work that one out

[neat iris]

Paleozoic wishlist:

• Edaphosaurus
• Inostrancevia
• Estemmenosuchus
• Scutosaurus
• Carboniferous bugs (yeah, I know, but come on!)

[austere sparrow]

Meganeura and Arthropleura and Pulmonoscorpius and Mazothairos, oh my!

[neat iris]

But alas, the devs said they probably won’t add them

[austere sparrow]

With the new terrarium system I'm hopeful they might change their mind

They'd be p perfect for it

[neat iris]

I think they said it would take too long to animate all the legs on the Arthropleura

[desert flame]

I would like to see Meganeura and Arthropleura, but I'm not sure if it would be technically possible to make them into a mini exhibit.

[sharp dock]

I'd like to see meganeura tbh

considerably simpler

[ancient ibex]

They are perfect for it ngl

[steep tulip]

cant they have it half procedural in a way

like using procedural animations and then baking it into the game

could be done, its mainly a thing of the animation/rigging software

I think

[desert flame]

yes
Large arthropods like Arthropleura are well suited to looping animations.

[late swallow]

People [Chiiri] have made terrariums with the statues

[late swallow]

Imagine the creeping and crawling

[neat iris]

Hear me out on this: since they’re very likely giving us dwarf elephants, why not have the giant swans that coexisted with them too?

[glass snow]

I really want dippy, cerato, ornitholestes and campto to come in a post ea morisson update or dlc.

[lost magnet]

What about Stegodon?

[low bridge]

What about Stegotetrabelodon?

[lost magnet]

Preferably Latenivenatrix, Gobivenator and Saurornithoides tho

[low bridge]

Good good

[lost magnet]

Yeah, and it has some dwarf species from Indonesia too iirc

[sharp plinth]

yeah, id still be fine with any troodontid

[lost magnet]

Fair

As long as there's good bunch of them

Not just 1 or 2

[sharp plinth]

ig

id say 2 would be a good number

3 might be much

[low bridge]

Stegotetrabelodon is Neat enough Elephant

[lost magnet]

Nah

3 or 4 is fine

Although for Dromaeosaurs you can do a few more bc there's more to represent

[feral cedar]

Opisthocoelicaudia because I NEED to hear Nigel try to pronounce it 😭

[lost magnet]

Yesss

And also cool for coexisting with a massive Tyrannosaurid

But then you could also do Nemegtosaurus or Quaesitosaurus

[feral cedar]

Nemegtosaurus is just a skull tbh

I think

To be fair Diplodocus is often reconstructed with a Galeamopus skull which means Opisthocoelicaudia with a Nemegtosaurus skull is just as valid

Wait DAMN

[austere sparrow]

Opisst-ho-coeli-caudia

[feral cedar]

Opistho is like lowkey really fucking complete what??

Nemegtosaurus basically fills in the blanks for the skull

[sharp plinth]

yeah

[austere sparrow]

Just made my roommate say it and she got it "good enough" first try 😭

[sharp plinth]

id say Velo, Utah, Austro and maybe like 1 or 2 more

those are the main three i think are really good additions from dromaeosauridae for PK

[slim flare]

Nemegt I think unfortunately will always be a “weirdos only” club. The more standard species like sauropods, hadrosaurs and ankylosaurs probably won’t come to PK, while things like Therizinosaurus will.

[sharp plinth]

ofc velo is already in the game and utah is confirmed

[sharp plinth]

id agree honestly

[slim flare]

Deinonychus

[sharp plinth]

hm

[slim flare]

I must complete the original 7 JP species

[toxic oriole]

Deinonychus is an important one to have

[lost magnet]

Like yes, we have Velociraptor already, but there are some good reasons for more
Utahraptor - largest of them all
Dromaeosaurus - namesake and also pretty cool
Saurornitholestes - has it's own subfamily and also pretty cool
Deinonychus - an icon and the reason behind the dinosaur renaissance
Halszkaraptor - waterfowl with extra claws and teeth
Austroraptor - one of the few from the south and pretty damn big
Buiteraptor or Unenlagia - a smaller version of the southern Dromaeosaurs
Sinornithosaurus - the more mobile version of Microraptor
Adasaurus - the name means evil lizard, what more could you want; plus Velociraptorines are very pretty

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/rizzler-the-rizzler-christian-turn-rizzler-turn-gif-3468410536510015644

[sharp plinth]

i forgot about halz

defo add that

devs i beg

add the chicken

[lost magnet]

The water chicken

[sharp plinth]

acctually looks more like a goose or swan

mb

[outer moth]

Utah's already comin

[lost magnet]

Mini swan with teeth and claws

[sharp plinth]

we know.

[outer moth]

But Deinon is a priority for me

[lost magnet]

YUY! :>

[outer moth]

Not everyone knows

[sharp plinth]

deinon i feel like can be added but....

[lost magnet]

I didn't

[sharp plinth]

kinda feels like baby utah

[lost magnet]

Nah

[outer moth]

It is not at all like Utah

[sharp plinth]

i literally said it like 1 minute ago

https://tenor.com/view/piano-gif-22243713

[outer moth]

Who tf gave you that idea

If anything, Dromaeo is closer to Utah in body proportions

[toxic oriole]

Shri for similarily sized dromaeosaurs to Velociraptor but are completely distinguishable

[feral cedar]

Utahraptor is confirmed
Dromaeosaurus is either an alt or not a great addition
Saurornitholestine dromaeosaurs aren't significant enough to be included because of that
Deinonychus YES 100%
Halszkaraptor has some points against being a duck. Also its describer is a jerk and he'd probably tear PK apart if they get even ONE thing wrong
Austroraptor yes, peak unenlagiine rep
Buitreraptor/Unenlagia as an Austro alt could work
Sinornithosaurus is a more colorful Microraptor, nothing more
Adasaurus is meh, its chance was as a Velo alt

[outer moth]

And yeah I'm quoting Erior here but Dromaeosaurus actually fits with Utah

[sharp plinth]

plus i dont think pk should be too heavy on any specific clade

[austere sparrow]

Velociraptor, Utahraptor, Deinonychus, Austroraptor (because it is, annoyingly enough, the most popular and well known Unenlagine), Microraptor and Halszkaraptor would be my Dromie choices

[lost magnet]

Good one

[austere sparrow]

Dromaeosaurus isn't bad but I wouldn't give half a heck if we didn't get it

[sharp plinth]

megalosaur clade needs expansions in pk pls

i love megalosaurs

[toxic oriole]

So you're aware of the Shri rapax thing, huh?

[lost magnet]

It's underrated

[austere sparrow]

Chances are we can "Baby alt" it in via Utahraptor anyway after all

[lost magnet]

Yep

[ancient ibex]

Keep in mind that Dromaeosaurus being linked to Utah may not last long once we have a description of the Utahraptor project material

[austere sparrow]

Not every obscure animal is underrated, some are deservedly rated just where they deserve to be 😔

[ancient ibex]

I personally am expecting Utah out of Eudromaeosauria

[lost magnet]

Megalosauridae or Megalosauroidea as a whole?

[sharp plinth]

idae

i think

[outer moth]

There aren't too many members outside of Spinosauridae that could be added
Megalo at best could work

[ancient ibex]

Monolopho

[outer moth]

I suppose that too

[sharp plinth]

id be fine if just megalosaurus was added

[outer moth]

Problem is
How do we reconstruct Megalo

[ancient ibex]

And, ttbt, spinosaurids are pretty average in terms of diversity and preservation by megalosaur standards

[late swallow]

Utah is chubby

[lost magnet]

That's the family
Megalosaurus, Torvosaurus, Afrovenator, Eustreptospondylus etc
Megalosauroidea also includes Spinosauridae, Yunyangosaurus and possibly Piatnitzkysauridae and Monolophosaurus

[lost magnet]

Exactly

[ancient ibex]

People just write megalosaurs off as generic, then obsess over every single spinosaurid detail

[austere sparrow]

😔 Mammal Fans "Pls give us literally anything else that isn't from the Pleiocene" versus Theropod Fans "But what about second Megalosaur?"

[sharp plinth]

technically we have 2 megalosaurs 🤓

[ancient ibex]

In any case, Monolopho has been jumping across tetanurae, and Piatnitzkysaurs may very well be on the allosaur side

[feral cedar]

Halszkaraptor might not even be duckoraptor

fyi

[toxic oriole]

technically we have three if you count the other species of Torvosaurus

[austere sparrow]

I have heard and do not care, it's still distinct enough

[lost magnet]

Maybe Machairodus?

[feral cedar]

at least go for a halzkaraptorine like Natovenator then

[late swallow]

Yeah we do only have 3 non-coelurasaur theropids

[sharp plinth]

I'm talking about the ones in PK, tanneri and guryeni

[austere sparrow]

I'm going to grab you by the neck and shake you

[late swallow]

Soon enough 7

[lost magnet]

Megalosauroids, but not Megalosaurids

[sharp plinth]

Ok idk anymore

[toxic oriole]

Now I know they said they might consider Palaeoloxodon post-EA or something, so heres the idea

[ancient ibex]

Natovenator seems to disagree

[outer moth]

I see Afrovenator or Megalo making it in in the future as DLC
But I'd wait for them personally because we still don't know if they truly looked like Mono or not

[late swallow]

No, you're correct

[plush nacelle]

Moas

[lost magnet]

True, it's a bit iffy where they belong
But they're still cool af

[austere sparrow]

NZ is Boreal?

I guess that would be a neat Boreal/Coastal addition 🤔

[toxic oriole]

I'll take more proboscidean representation anyday

[sharp plinth]

What if metriacanthosaurus or anything closely related

[ancient ibex]

Yangchuanosaurus is the best bet

[outer moth]

Only Yang

[sharp plinth]

Yeah

[ancient ibex]

Metri is literal ass lol

[steep tulip]

yang best

[ancient ibex]

(as in all we have is a partial pelvis)

[outer moth]

Metri's only glory was old JP

[lost magnet]

@sharp plinth

[feral cedar]

I've read somewhere that Djadochta's locale where Halszkaraptor was discovered didn't preserve the necessary waterways to accomodate a semiaquatic lifestyle

[steep tulip]

best formation, best metri, best ass

[sharp plinth]

I forgot mb

[plush nacelle]

Ya. During pleistocene south island was full of tundra.

[feral cedar]

lemme go find the source

[ancient ibex]

Sinraptor is coool, in the "the most vanilla large theropod way"

[toxic oriole]

Even if it means taking the early proboscideans

[feral cedar]

Sinraptor as an ontogeny alt for Yang

heehee

no no that stinks it's just alts for the sake of alts

[sharp plinth]

I would like aquarium creatures tbh

Not like full lagoons

Just enclosures big enough for like, anomalocarius or onchropristis

[toxic oriole]

If the game does well post-EA financially, then they might expand the game to add aquatic animals and aerial animals

So if you want that to happen, uhhhh....

[feral cedar]

https://x.com/Paleoartologist/status/1436853130495365122

Hank Sharpe (@Paleoartologist)

Cau is wrong. In the Djadokta, arid localities stratigraphically correlate together, and more fluvial localities correlate together. 2/3 halszkaraptorines have been found in strictly arid localities with no aquatic crocodilians (8/12) https://t.co/2XadiahEfg

X · Sep 12, 2021, 12:44 AM

[steep tulip]

aquariums terrariums might become a thing sooner than exhibit aquatics

[sharp plinth]

I mean, we are getting an aquatic terrarium no?

[toxic oriole]

Honestly, mini-aquariums would be a good first start anyways

[steep tulip]

thats semi aquatic

[lost magnet]

I love Metriacanthosaurids

[feral cedar]

linked paper in case Twitter is (as per usual) ass for people
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341255484_New_protoceratopsid_specimens_improve_the_age_correlation_of_the_Upper_Cretaceous_Gobi_Desert_strata

[lost magnet]

Yangchuanosaurus my beloved

[toxic oriole]

Its logical they start with something smaller

[steep tulip]

I mean fishes and stuff that dont walk on land

[toxic oriole]

... I know the Alligator Gar is still around today, like the two extant Coelacanth genera, yet I would like to see em someday

[sharp plinth]

I really want a stegosaur already

Stegosaurus, kentrosaurus, dacentrurus, any

[steep tulip]

well

[plush nacelle]

Basically this

[steep tulip]

2 more updates

[outer moth]

Halzka might still have an affinity for water
Who knows

[sharp plinth]

That's not to fragmentary

[steep tulip]

unfortunately only 1

maybe 2

[sharp plinth]

Kentro is a must

[slim flare]

U17

[toxic oriole]

Plus the entirety of Allosaurus (The entire genus)

[sharp plinth]

I will not rest until kentro is added

[austere sparrow]

We sure have suggested a lot of Theropods we can basically already have ingame as false Torvosaurus neotony alts

[steep tulip]

tho I think its just gonna be just stego unless they had a change of heart in u19

[slim flare]

There’s an alt for Stego

[plush nacelle]

No stego alt. Mau resurecting diictodon

[steep tulip]

yeah but imo its gonna be ungulatus

[sharp plinth]

Bro they better add kentro

Or else I'm gonna say ba wor..

[lost magnet]

Probably given the way it looks

[toxic oriole]

I'll take Deinotherium and a few other popular proboscideans (Not counting Palaeoloxodon, they could show up anyways after the game goes full release)

[feral cedar]

maybe, but looking at our two dromaeosaurs, the confirmed future one, and all of the other dromaeosaurs we've discovered I'd place any halszkaraptorine rep as bottom of the list for me. I'd rather we get unenlagiines and Deinonychus first

[lost magnet]

My fav Stegosaur

[sharp plinth]

Hell yeah

Same here

[outer moth]

It fits the role of "funky dinosaur" for future terrariums

[lost magnet]

Fair

[sharp plinth]

Deinocheirus still my boi doe

[steep tulip]

I think devs gonna make them aquatics

[plush nacelle]

People would love duck

[lost magnet]

They better

[steep tulip]

just for funnies

[sharp plinth]

I have a friend who love anomalocaris so...

[toxic oriole]

Alright then, Mastodons too

[sharp plinth]

I must be biased about aquariums

[feral cedar]

Also I might get some flack for this but I'd ALSO take Shri rapax because of how UNIQUE it is

[steep tulip]

my little chudlet

[ancient ibex]

Halszkaraptorians seem weird in that they are often found to have semiaquatic adaptions, but thus far we have only found them in the same environments as Velociraptorines sensu stricto

[sharp plinth]

Basilosaurus could be cool, but potentially too big idk

[feral cedar]

look at that long neck

[toxic oriole]

Honestly

I don't blame you

[lost magnet]

I love it

[toxic oriole]

Even if its a recently discovered member of Shri in general, I'd take it regardless

Especially if it means bringing the entirety of Shri into the game

[slim flare]

Maybe they’re juvenile Velociraptorines…

[feral cedar]

Are we sure Shri rapax is... well, Shri?

[sharp plinth]

Why does shri rapax remind me of pneumatoraptor

[steep tulip]

who

[ancient ibex]

Same energy

[austere sparrow]

Theropod fans: "Look at how UNIQUE this is" Posts Generic Dromaeosaur with long neck and big hands 😭

[toxic oriole]

What is that, Shri Devi?

[steep tulip]

looks nothing like it

[feral cedar]

that's dromaeo right

[toxic oriole]

Or a different dromie?

[ancient ibex]

Dromaeosaurus

[toxic oriole]

Ah, right

[slim flare]

Iguanodon moment

[sharp plinth]

I hate how, your acctually right

[austere sparrow]

I hate it here sometimes

[steep tulip]

oh nvm

[toxic oriole]

Aight I'll take hippos too

[steep tulip]

its a single bone

lol

[austere sparrow]

Shri wins over Dromaeo bcuz longer neck btw

[sharp plinth]

Can we get the big capy

[steep tulip]

dromeo better imo

[toxic oriole]

Hippopotamus gorgops and Hippo antiquus (Wait, is antiquus extinct or extant?)

[slim flare]

Doesn’t exist

[sharp plinth]

Josephortigasia

[toxic oriole]

YES

RODENT

YEAHAHAHA

[ancient ibex]

I mean the difference between a pacarana and a cavy is not that big

[sharp plinth]

I meant capybara, big capybara

[toxic oriole]

... Despite popular belief-

Josephoartigasia is NOT a giant capybara

[austere sparrow]

The difference between a cavy and a Capy(bara) is a bit bigger tho

[ancient ibex]

Honestly, I'm more for Dromaeo than Shri because NA Campanian small dromies are also iconic

[sharp plinth]

[feral cedar]

I hear ya, but Shri rapax actually shares a formation with Velociraptor... you know what that means?

-# live and learn, bitches

[austere sparrow]

Pyroraptor > Dromaeosaurus

[ancient ibex]

The parallel niche partitioning Velociraptorines and Dromaeosaurines did is cool

[austere sparrow]

💣

[sharp plinth]

Ok

[lost magnet]

No, just no
Have you seen that neck and that short tail?

[feral cedar]

Let me get this right

[feral cedar]

you criticize dromaeo and shri rapax as choices for PK and then you submit THIS fucking thing for consideration

[lost magnet]

I muat disagree

[austere sparrow]

Look at this well-preserved beauty

[sharp plinth]

What if it's a baby difference, like the eyes being bigger or sum

[lost magnet]

Dineobellator

[austere sparrow]

I am Nanuqsaurusmaxxing 😤

[feral cedar]

velociraptor vs protoceratops:

[ancient ibex]

Velo disregarding that and chomping a Proto

[sharp plinth]

Kentromaxxing vro

[slim flare]

Protoceratops vs Velociraptor:

[austere sparrow]

Kentro is literally the generic ideal of a Stegosaur you can probably do better 😭

[feral cedar]

how is porcupinosaurus generic

[sharp plinth]

Exactly

Kentro is good

[slim flare]

Kentrosaurus is so fucking cool

[toxic oriole]

I know compies are gonna be terrarium animals

[sharp plinth]

It's a baseline that still looks good

[toxic oriole]

So why not have Procompsognathus as another one?

[austere sparrow]

I dunno, have you looked at Stegosaurs recently? Fuckin all of them look like that

[slim flare]

No they don’t

[feral cedar]

Rebecca it's one thing to suggest unusual species like Pyroraptor and Nanuqsaurus, it's another to shoot down other's suggestions and THEN suggest Pyroraptor and Nanuqsaurus

[sharp plinth]

I hope we atleast have an alt skin for compy that's the skin of sinosauropteryx

I just like its skin

[slim flare]

Rebecc is just trolling

[feral cedar]

I haven't forgotten you slandering Hypsilophodon

[austere sparrow]

Pyroraptor is a bad suggestion why would you want it?

[lost magnet]

I'd prefer to see them in a regular enclosure tho
They're pretty active and they can't climb out anyway

[ancient ibex]

Already saw it as the mockup pretty much lol

[feral cedar]

I wonder if full exhibit animals can still burrow

If not then Thescelosaurus might feel incomplete

[toxic oriole]

Alright heres an interesting exhibit idea

[austere sparrow]

I think Tyrannotitan is a good addition

[toxic oriole]

Mesozoic Fireflies

[lost magnet]

Like if you'd put that in a terrarium you might as well put meerkats in a terrarium too

[sharp plinth]

I hope we can also have the terrarium animals outside of the terrarium

[toxic oriole]

Yes, there is a mesozoic firefly, I looked it up and one exists

[sharp plinth]

In enclosures

It could be cool

[lost magnet]

Yeah

[ancient ibex]

Dude, have you seen the size of Compy, Simo and Tiktaalik?

[sharp plinth]

And useful for certain styles of park

[austere sparrow]

Rightful and deserved slander also 😔

[toxic oriole]

Meerkats arent that small compared to those guys, right?

[sharp plinth]

Like abandoned parks or facilities

[lost magnet]

Tiktaalik just needs enclosure with plenty of water

[austere sparrow]

Overrated lil critter

[feral cedar]

meerkats ARE in terrariums IRL

[sharp plinth]

I've seen them outside of terrariums

[feral cedar]

I've literally gone to a zoo with a glass terrarium-style exhibit full of meerkats within a restaurant

[sharp plinth]

In an enclosure before

[toxic oriole]

I've gone to a zoo that has an enclosure type of Meerkat display

[feral cedar]

actually if I go far enough back I might find that hold on

[flint sable]

ah yes

[sharp plinth]

Forgot which zoo though

[flint sable]

the two bones

[toxic oriole]

Though they decided to stay in the cavern section of their enclosure

They were outside of it at times, but now they stay in that cavern section

[lost magnet]

Small, but you can put them in a small enclosure with a 1 m fence

[austere sparrow]

Turns out there's more than two actually

[ancient ibex]

Not in this game

[sharp plinth]

I'd prefer a moat

[toxic oriole]

Hey this gives me an idea

[sharp plinth]

Or cliff fsce

[flint sable]

ah yes

the three bones

[toxic oriole]

Suricata major
Extinct early pleistocene meerkat from africa

[ancient ibex]

https://www.prehistorickingdom.com/news/diary32 The way terrariums will work is here

[toxic oriole]

GRRRRR I WANT MORE BEARS FOR PK.....

[slim flare]

Short-faces bear is a must

[sharp plinth]

I want glyppy

[toxic oriole]

They very well could use the only extant Short-Faced bear for inspiration and stuff

I mean, come on

Thats the only short faced bear still alive in todays world

[sharp plinth]

Glyptodon when

Or doedicurus

[low bridge]

At the end

[austere sparrow]

Y'know what fuck it. Unironic case for Pyroraptor:
It has a cool name.
It appears in a lot of media, including the Juramsick Wood frankchise
It is probably somebody's favorite (that's apparently a valid argument for inclusion)
It is important to science (being the second Dromaeosaur discovered in France and all)
It is an Unenlagine (maybe), which we do not have ingame yet
Have I mentioned that it's name is cool?

[sharp plinth]

Oof

[austere sparrow]

I accidentally wrote it ironic because I can't take Pyroraptor seriously

[toxic oriole]

FRANCE!?

PYRORAPTOR IS FRENCH!?

[lost magnet]

Still I think active animals such as Compsognathus deserve better than just a lil terrarium

[sharp plinth]

I mean another cool thing is that it was discovered after a fire ig?

[flint sable]

I think its from somewhere in the Alps

[flint sable]

I dont remember where

[sharp plinth]

But still idk

[lost magnet]

Arctotherium

[low bridge]

Pyroraptor is french but is Not build like french sticks lol

[austere sparrow]

Yeah. From Southern France

[low bridge]

Agriotherium

[austere sparrow]

It's like being French Canadian but not

[lost magnet]

Yep

[toxic oriole]

Arent Giant Short Faced Bears being considered POST EA or something?

[toxic oriole]

I don't remember

[sharp plinth]

Well then again it did get a short inclusion in prehistoric planet

And I mean short

[toxic oriole]

Chances are we could see some more bears in that Ice Age spinoff for Prehistoric Planet

If not that, then I'll take the dwarf elephants

[low bridge]

Agriotherium is underrated tbh

[lost magnet]

Fair

[sharp plinth]

I'm talking about pyroraptor numbnuts

[lost magnet]

Both are worthy

[plush nacelle]

You underestimate how many PZ species would be terrarium animals in PK

[ancient ibex]

In any case, 32 square meter and 96 square meter are roomy enough for those animals

[lost magnet]

Still getting fresh air tho
And not all zoos put them behind glass

[feral cedar]

it had no roof

I was there

[lost magnet]

Then it's not a terrarium imo

[ancient ibex]

The minis are getting enough room

[toxic oriole]

Alright I've got something interesting that isnt ingame so far

[sharp plinth]

I saw a red panda in a small enclosure with a tree in it

[toxic oriole]

One of those prehistoric pigs

[sharp plinth]

Like a quite big tree too

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/benson-gif-17810084300510520765

[toxic oriole]

Primitive pigs, whether it'd be boars or anything in that family with pigs, boars and such

[austere sparrow]

I think we should add Agathaumas to the game

[sharp plinth]

Bug expansion ideas?

[feral cedar]

I think we only need Kubanochoerus

[sharp plinth]

Two best picks from me are meganeura and arthropleura

[toxic oriole]

Theres plenty of candidates of the Carboniferous period for that

[ancient ibex]

Perhaps one peccary, but IMO Kubanochoerus is the best swine to be added

[plush nacelle]

Mazothairos

[sharp plinth]

That one spider too

[feral cedar]

Kubanochoerus

[digital pendant]

there will be null styling for the terrarium modules too, so you can make it seem as if it is an open exhibit

[ancient ibex]

FWIW, this is the smaller terrarium, the large one is like 3 of those put together

[austere sparrow]

Unicorn piggy

[plush nacelle]

For pigs i would rather see one of these american peccaries. Kinda basic, but being basic is sometimes important

[feral cedar]

I think peccaries could be fun, like the one from La Brea

Platygonus

[ancient ibex]

Skinnerhyus hits a neat area of being different enough yet also a smol peccary dude

[austere sparrow]

I think we should add the Chacoan Peccary. That one is pretty popular in zoos

[feral cedar]

idk if there's anything else

[feral cedar]

ah right

[austere sparrow]

Good Peccary

[low bridge]

I order Kubanochoerus and Cuban Sandwich into game lol

[feral cedar]

waiter, waiter, one Kubanochoerus please
-EZ, probably

[plush nacelle]

Platygonus lived alongside mastodon fauna. Would be fun addition

[lost magnet]

Love it,but there was also this massive pig of which I forgot the name (not Entelodon, but an actual pig)

[feral cedar]

Metridiochoerus?

[lost magnet]

Perhaps?

[ancient ibex]

That was Blue Fang being weird

[low bridge]

Daeodon is neat but i have to say that it should have Archaeotherium way smaller alt

[ancient ibex]

Metridochoerus is pretty much Pleistocene warthog

[lost magnet]

It might be that or something starting with E

[feral cedar]

Platygonus compressus for La Brea fauna, Kubanochoerus and Skinnerhyus for weirdo pigs that stand on their own

[toxic oriole]

PUMBA FROM THE LION KING!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?

[austere sparrow]

Metridiochoerus

[lost magnet]

Nah, it wasn't that one

It didn't have obvious tusks

[low bridge]

No Pumba on steroids

[ancient ibex]

FWIW, Skinnerhyus and its wingcheeked brethen are known from quite good remains

[sharp plinth]

Maybe a whole the the tar tar pits dlc would be interesting

[toxic oriole]

TARTAR SAUCE PITS!?

What

[low bridge]

Warthog beast

[austere sparrow]

Metri with modern (wart)hog

[feral cedar]

Is Skinnerhyus just your personal choice or is it the "best" one

[sharp plinth]

La brea translates to the tar

So it's the the tar tar pits

[austere sparrow]

(Metri is in the middle the last one is some other genus who cares)

[plush nacelle]

Platygonus seems the best. Great formations + decent biome alt diversity ranging from boreal to tropical + and very common animal

[toxic oriole]

Yeah its more informal to just call it La Brea Tar Pit instead of saying it by its actual translated name

[austere sparrow]

Notochoerus for PK 🤔

[sharp plinth]

I just said it for the memies

[low bridge]

As Alt

Megalochoerus is Big

[austere sparrow]

Holy shit Chacoan Peccary for PK real

[toxic oriole]

Man it feels good to mention swine

[feral cedar]

JESUS CHRIST
https://vxtwitter.com/JoschuaKnuppe/status/1723562373514920251

Joschua Knüppe (@JoschuaKnuppe)

Results from the #paleostream
Mylohyus, Skinnerhyus, Bentiabasaurus and Megatyloceras https://t.co/6GjdJsC2V9

vxTwitter / fixvx · Nov 12, 2023, 4:44 AM

[austere sparrow]

Bro thinks he's an Entelodont

[feral cedar]

Joschua Knuppe's Skinnerhyus

[toxic oriole]

Front Facing

They know what you did.

They know EXACTLY what you did.

[austere sparrow]

Lmao. And people here wanted Platygonus...

[feral cedar]

that is a very interesting speculative reconstruction of the so-called "wingfaced" cheekbones

[toxic oriole]

IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE A MUSTACHE

A DAMN MUSTACHE

i love it

and i want it

[plush nacelle]

What do you mean. All living peccaries are more closely related to each other

[feral cedar]

I mean, that's very speculative

[low bridge]

Hard to say but Archaeotherium as Daeodon alt would work

[feral cedar]

Erior sent a picture of a more conservative Skinnerhyus reconstruction

[austere sparrow]

Encounter music for Knüppe's Skinnerhyus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypmrHQqXQWk

[feral cedar]

ngl Erior is selling me on Skinnerhyus LOL

[austere sparrow]

It's painfully generic is what I meant 😔

[toxic oriole]

YA HEAR THAT DEVS! GIVE US THE SWINE!!!!!!!!!!

OINK OINK!!!!

🐷

[plush nacelle]

Something wrong with being generic? Pleistocene is full of animal like this

[feral cedar]

is this supposed to hurt my ears

cause if so mission accomplished

[plush nacelle]

I mean the further we go into cenozoic the more ,,basic,, animals become

[low bridge]

250 kg entelodont should be good in game

[feral cedar]

what

250 kg

[austere sparrow]

I mean. This is Prehistoric Kingdom, not "Modern Animal with a different genus name slapped ontop" Kingdom 😔

[low bridge]

Archaeotherium

[feral cedar]

no way

it wasn't that small

[plush nacelle]

I guess no more elephants

[feral cedar]

...was it?

[low bridge]

It was

[feral cedar]

huh

[toxic oriole]

THIS WILL NOT DO

[low bridge]

Since it lived with Hyaenodon Horridus (90kg)

[digital pendant]

for archaeotherium that sounds about right weight wise

[feral cedar]

I mean honestly I only want AN entelodont, singular so like...

[austere sparrow]

I can live with no Elephants at all as long as different Proboscideans still get in. Remove Mammuthus for all I care

[feral cedar]

Daeodon for me pls

[toxic oriole]

If any swine gets added to PK

[feral cedar]

Kubanochoerus, Skinnerhyus, and Daeodon are my trio of pig, "pig", and """pig"""

[toxic oriole]

You know what I'll name one of em?

Waddles

AND YOU'LL KNOW WHY

[low bridge]

Metridiochoerus

[late swallow]

Because they waddle?

[austere sparrow]

Look at this cute little baby ❤️
Was gonna go for paleoart but all the paleoart loves to make the cute little baby angy as fucc

[feral cedar]

could be fun but I'm happy with kubano, skinner, and daeodon imo

[toxic oriole]

... Eh, it was a Gravity Falls reference

[low bridge]

Small means good like Juxia ofc

[late swallow]

I couldn't get thru ep 2

I'm bad at watching stuff

[ancient ibex]

I believe it is the one with the most marked "wings", but I'm not sure

[toxic oriole]

WHAT!?

[late swallow]

Reiterate

[toxic oriole]

Well that will not do at all

I would also name one of those swine as Reuben for MINECRAFT STORY MODE!!!

[austere sparrow]

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little

No hate for people who like Minecraft story mode

It just traumatized me

[late swallow]

You know what you gotta name the 3rd

[toxic oriole]

Ross

Because ANGRY BIRDS AND BAD PIGGIES!!!!!

YAHAHAHAHAHAH

[late swallow]

That's not a king, that's a legend

[toxic oriole]

YOU'RE RIGHT

TECHNOBLADE AS WELL

[austere sparrow]

My favourite pig is Undyne from Deltarune

[toxic oriole]

Yeah I'll also name one of those swine as Pumba just for Lion King

assuming no one else gets to it before me......

[austere sparrow]

Nice Bachelor herd you've got so far

Think of any sow names yet?

[toxic oriole]

I have no idea what that word means

[late swallow]

Female pig

[austere sparrow]

Sow. female Swine

Swinette

[toxic oriole]

Hmmm, no actually

[austere sparrow]

Oh, Mrs Piggy

[toxic oriole]

BAH

Damn Peppa Pig nonsense

[austere sparrow]

Peppa Pig?

I guess?

[toxic oriole]

Yes

Muppets

[late swallow]

Specifically one thats had a litter of piglets

[austere sparrow]

We're probably still getting Daeodon right

[toxic oriole]

Hopefully

And I had a stupid name for another swine

John Pork

memes ofc....

[austere sparrow]

That's the Entelodont I care the least about but I can fully admit that it's just for hipster reasons (meaning, the fact that it's silly popular)

[toxic oriole]

Assuming hippos get into the game, I'd name one of them Moto Moto and the other Gloria

[austere sparrow]

Piglet is a guy (at least in the versions I know of) but the name seems neutral enough...?

[late swallow]

Max size moto moto

[ancient ibex]

"I dislike this thing because other people like it" is not that great of a take

[austere sparrow]

Damn girl. You huge. - Moto moto to self

[toxic oriole]

DUDE THOSE ANIMALS ARE SO FUCKING FUNNY THEY MAKE ME WANNA MERGE WITHOUT LOOKING!!!
I had to

[late swallow]

Eh, c'est la vie.

[austere sparrow]

"I dislike this thing because other people are annoying about it" - there, fixed it

[toxic oriole]

Okay I'll name one of those swine Meg.

yes.

meg.

[austere sparrow]

I do not get the reference

[toxic oriole]

Me either

[austere sparrow]

My favorite fictional swine is probably the man-eating one from the Magnus Archives. Such a silly goober

[toxic oriole]

By the time Dodo's get added in, or any other flightless bird...

You bet I'd start making Angry Birds related skins

Stella, Red, Chuck, Bomb, etc....

[austere sparrow]

I do not actually name my animals, it occurs to me

[lost magnet]

Lol

[low bridge]

We need Epicyon bc he is Epic

[austere sparrow]

Still a better addition than Pyroraptor

[low bridge]

Pyrotherium is 🔥

[low bridge]

It nickname is: "Beast born in fire"

[lost magnet]

Sick

[left spear]

Healthy

[flint sable]

Desceased

[ember obsidian]

Why not Kelenken or Titanis

[steep tulip]

Well

[neat iris]

Terror birds seem inevitable down the line

[harsh oxide]

Just a random thought, but how often do you see uintatherium in any paleo media? Not sure if it's on the list, but seeing these wonky dudes in a dino park would be pretty cool

[silent radish]

I think it'd be cool to have an alternate species pack, where you have one animal that can be reasonably stretched to a few different species with the same model/rig, a few examples:

Alioramus/Qianzhousaurus/Lythronax

Quetzalcoatlus/Hatzegopteryx/Arambourgiania/Cryodrakon/Phosphatodraco

Pteranodon/Tethydraco/Barbaridactylus

Albertosaurus/Gorgosaurus/Daspletosaurus/Nanuqsaurus

Utahraptor/Dakotaraptor(?)/Achillobator/Imperobator

Megalosaurus/Eustreptospondylus

Or maybe a similar one where it's just new species made from existing ones:

Deinocheirus: Paraxenisaurus

Dilophosaurus: Cryolophosaurus

Muttaburrasaurus: Zalmoxes, Camptosaurus

Nasutoceratops: Avaceratops

Edmontosaurus: Shantungosaurus, Barsboldia

The list could go on

[steep tulip]

Never

Can't recall a single time it was used in any piece of media

That isn't games

[harsh oxide]

Yeah, you see a lot of retro paleoart of uintatherium, but it's just so dang obscure

[steep tulip]

I think jurassic park builder had it lol

But that's about it

[harsh oxide]

There was an ice age mobile game too, but that's pretty much it 🤷🏾‍♂️

[harsh oxide]

Megacerops would be cool too

[toxic oriole]

Brachiosaurus/Giraffatitan

[wild relic]

Lythronax makes no sense for Alioramus or Qianzhousaurus those two are fine as alts for each other on their own and are from a completely different tribe then Lythro
Quetz does not need that many alts
Alberto and Gorgo are good on their as alts for each other and they're closely related being both albertosaurines.
Imperobator makes no sense as it's not a dromaeosaur
Megalo would just be better off as an alt for Torvo
Rather Dracovenator or Sinosaurus as alts for Dilo as Cryo is pretty unique on its own.
Barsboldia doesn't make sense for Edmontosaurus as it's more basal and not similar to Edmonto

[silent radish]

I agree with a lot of this, but I figured i'd suggest a lot of things that could also use the same rig, not necessarily the same model, but this is very good criticism!!! Also there definitely wouldn't need to be as many alts either 🤣

Interesting point about Barsboldia btw, I hadn't realized it was so basal!!

[wild relic]

Yes it's the most basal saurolophine so far

[hollow furnace]

assuming that position stays

[wild relic]

I think alts are restricted to only closely related genera as you'll notice the alts in the game are taxon closely related to each other and are very similar to each other
Tyrannosaurus and Tarbosaurus
Parasaurolophus and Charonosaurus
Allosaurus and Saurophaganax
Paraceratherium and Juxia
Elasmotherium and Sinotherium

[wild relic]

Possible yeah

[silent radish]

That's a good point

[austere sparrow]

I believe the two rhinos are the most distantly related ones?

They are also pretty recent, too

[hollow furnace]

Juxia and Parceratherium are the most distantly related ones atm

[austere sparrow]

Kinda hoping we might see wilder and wilder alt genera as time goes on

[hollow furnace]

I would not be suprised tbh

[austere sparrow]

yeah

Would be great, especially for mammals

[hollow furnace]

definitely feels like we're getting both more alts, and more distant alts, as time has gone on

[austere sparrow]

If we actually get Kentro or Tuojiango as a Stego alt I'm gonna die on the spot ngl

[silver steeple]

That's practically not possible tbh

The think about alts is that they have to be proportionally similar

There's some stuff you can do with ontogeny to swing that one way or the other

But they still have to be mostly the same

[toxic oriole]

Assuming Giraffatitan does end up being the exception alt, assuming they are still going with the idea that one specific animal will be an exception to the alt genus rule...

Theres your Jurassic Park

... and brachiosaurus might get model tweaks because of that, i reckon

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[tidal flame]

Thoughts on Capromeryx or Tetrameryx?

[neat iris]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-frankie-he-ruined-our-salad-salad-ruined-salad-gif-25025696

[toxic oriole]

Oh sorry, I got the tin foil hat on again

[neat iris]

I’d be surprised if we never get kentro; JPOG made it famous for being compatible with stego

[flint sable]

both would be great

[austere sparrow]

I would expect it too, honestly, although it's not my fist choice for second Stegosaurs.
Also, because this made me think; my current "good chances" Thyreophoran list is;
Kentrosaurus, Miragaia, Dacentrurus, Tuojiangosaurus (Stegosaurs)
Nodosaurus, Edmontonia, Sauropelta, Gastonia, Polacanthus, Minmi/Kunbarrasaurus, Hylaeosaurus, Antarctopelta ("Nodosaurs")
Saichania, Pinacosaurus, Euoplocephalus, Tarchia ("Ankylosaurs")

[flint sable]

I think I personally would prefer a Proceratid over an Antillocaprid, but either one would be great

any small ungulates really

[austere sparrow]

Small ungulates pog

[flint sable]

and when I mean small I basically mean anything that isnt a rhinoceros

so Megaloceros counts as "Small" in this scenario

[flint sable]

or the size of one

[austere sparrow]

🦛

[flint sable]

hippos are definitely rhinoceros sized

[austere sparrow]

...Wait rhinos get pretty small tho

[flint sable]

pygmy ones do I suppose

hippos

rhinos get small

ish

[austere sparrow]

Yeah, I posted it before you posted the size comment 😔 Puter just took a while to load

Yeah there's some extinct rhinos that are like. Sheep sized lol

Hi again Teleoceras, third time today being relephant

Can we turn Teleoceras into another of Maus behated meme animals? 🤔

[ancient ibex]

Barsboldia is likely just a Saurolophus angustirostris anyway, and Imperobator is likely an Unenlagian

[ancient ibex]

Kentro has been LONG known as the "continents were close together back in the day" example for stegosaurs; Tendaguru as a whole due to the similarity to the Morrison (although that has been toned down). It wasn't made famous by JPOG, as JPOG's roster beyond the JP animals was throughly made of quite well known animals

(That means, Kentro has been iconic for decades, and would be highly welcome)

[neat iris]

Eohippus

[late swallow]

Kentro was my first shoulder-spike introduction

I'd kill for it tbh, or tendaguru stuff in general

[neat iris]

Imagine building a multi-species Jurassic herbivore enclosure with stegosaurus, kentrosaurus, dryosaurus, and at least one sauropod species

[late swallow]

Dippy

Maybe if devs give us tendaguru, we could get a 3rd Torbo

[wild relic]

Would be nice as a reference to The Valley of Gwangi especially when Allosaurus gets added

[neat iris]

Huh…I never thought of that

I’ve never seen that movie, but pretty much every movie with animation by Ray Harryhausen is on my bucket list.

[austere sparrow]

Kentro isn't the most exciting animal in most ways tbh but it is an absolutely ludicrous repeat star of Dinosaur Zoo Games

Both of the Zoo Tycoons and JPOG had it. Pretty sure that ancient ass Dinosaur Zoo game that predated Zoo Tycoon also had it

Dino Island also had it lol

Dino Island had Pelecanimimus, of all things

[neat iris]

Didn’t Dino Island also have a feature where you could make hybrids?

[austere sparrow]

Yepp

And little animated shorts about their T.rex, some Nanotyrannus-ass-creature, and a pig getting up to shenanigans that flooded early youtube

[runic tiger]

I thought it was a rex, raptor, and pig

https://youtu.be/isTa21tZS3U?feature=shared

16 years ago....

[austere sparrow]

Yeah the Raptor is the Nanotyrannus thing

I guess it was maybe meant as a Raptor?

Also lmfao the three fingers on the rex

God that's. Such outdated ass humor lmfao

Don't you fucking :[] HNGH at us in that trampoline short, Pig. This was a planned hit on that poor mans life. You are culpable for murder

[sterile pulsar]

Super Niche Idea, Flat Headed Peccary

[feral cedar]

We were discussing pigs and "pigs" earlier actually

[sterile pulsar]

oh nice

[harsh oxide]

Pronghorn are cool, I'd love to make a game ranch/safari park with exclusive Pleistocene/cenozoics

[low bridge]

Neat enough to put into game but i have to say that Giraffokeryx, Bramatherium, Discokeryx, Sivatherium, Climacoceras would also FIT in Prehistoric Kingdom

[final yarrow]

GRAAASH I REMEMBER THIS

that was so cursed

[lost magnet]

I made a bird wishlist last Sunday I thinkand I put some terror birds on there

[lost magnet]

I support

[shell sonnet]

it did not

[lost magnet]

No, you already get separate rigs for different species within the same genus already

[low bridge]

Only terror birds i see in game are Titanis, Phorusrhacos, Kelenken,Andalgornis

Mesembriornis also

[lost magnet]

Still some terror birds tho

A good deal of them actually

[low bridge]

I hope for Aepycamelus, Dromomeryx, Barbourofelis, Agriotherium in game and "Hadrosaur Mimic" Rusingoryx

Last one is Parasaurolophus of Cenozoic

[lost magnet]

Well yes, but actually no

[austere sparrow]

I feel like Rusingoryx is the type of animal that would feel baller in a Zoo Tycoon 2 esque game, but lame in a PK esque game

Without modern relative to contrast it with it's just a normal, slightly weird wildebeest

I do hope we get a Dromomerycid, just so that Nigel can babble to the player about the fact that they existed. Procranioceras was planned before, so, fingers crossed

Look at this cute little bugger

[low bridge]

Synthetoceras deserves it's place in Prehistoric Kingdom like that

[austere sparrow]

Synthetoceras or riot

[mint creek]

holy moly yes

[plush nacelle]

Nothing better than filler-type hoofstock animal with funky skull, which is going to stuck alone in his formation