Community Species Suggestions

[late swallow]

Yuty also good pick

[ancient ibex]

Plenty of tyrannosauroids to go over before starting to go with additional Tyrannosaurines

[amber field]

isn't Alberto would be better ?

[shell sonnet]

Guanlong as well if you want to go for Tyrannosauroids

[ancient ibex]

Alberto remains the best choice

[late swallow]

They're very different

[steep tulip]

Alberto goated

[ancient ibex]

Alectrosaur grade animals would go neatly alongside Gigantoraptor

Megaraptorans would rock

[late swallow]

Very different subfamilies

[wild relic]

Lythronax would be nice

[austere sparrow]

Ngl I would be very surprised if we got any Tyrannosauroids beyond Guanlong, Yutyrannus, Albertosaurus, a Megaraptoran maybe (assuming they count) and alts
But then again I guess I wouldn't have predicted cave bear either

[wild relic]

It was in PK development before

[austere sparrow]

Lythronax was modelled like, way back

[shell sonnet]

Cave Bear was in the original 50

[austere sparrow]

Yeah

[late swallow]

I don't even need more Tyrannosaurids - I can handle with other therapod clades

[ancient ibex]

I fail to see the charm of fragmentary tyrannosaurids discovered last decade

[late swallow]

Cerato, pls

[steep tulip]

Lythronax 🥱

[austere sparrow]

Most of them do seem to mostly get asked about for their names or recency

Nanuqsaurus ironically being an exception to that, lol

[ancient ibex]

Teratophoneins are a mess

[steep tulip]

I forgot what was cool about lythronax

[austere sparrow]

Nanuqsaurus is getting asked for because all the Paleodocumentaries recently seem to be having it

[steep tulip]

I only remember the fact that it hasn't that great remains

[shell sonnet]

Yeah, Certao, Carnotaurus and either Masiaka or Lim/Elpharo

[amber field]

hope we see it in the Post ea

[ancient ibex]

It is old

[steep tulip]

Yuty is one of the safest option post ea

Same with cerato and dippy

[austere sparrow]

Yuty is great. Would have honestly preferred getting it over Allosaurus in many regards, but I suppose Allosaurus does definitely have more friends to play with

[steep tulip]

Yeah, pretty whatever idk

[shell sonnet]

Having Dippy as post-EA is weird given that it is the Sauropod for parts of the world

[steep tulip]

I mean allo is allo

[amber field]

I think that so

[steep tulip]

Its like having trike without trex

[austere sparrow]

Allo is literally the template for a generic Theropod in my brain tbh

[late swallow]

In most brains

[austere sparrow]

I can see why people consider it a favorite, or a must have but like. I could have honestly done without; especially with the game already having Torvo

[late swallow]

What the hell is that

[shell sonnet]

Yutyrannus

[austere sparrow]

But I guess realistically usually that whole dealio goes the other way around, with Allo already being in a thing leading to Torvo getting scorned

[shell sonnet]

sorry, wrong quote

[amber field]

yutyrannus

[late swallow]

What recon

[amber field]

Those are from the older version of the game
way before EA

[late swallow]

I'm gonna keep em both, maybe even together in both Morrison and Lourinhâ habitats

[steep tulip]

Each period should have its carnivore/herbivore rivalry
Posto/placerias allo/stego
Cretaceous has both velo and proto and trike and trex
Scuto and inostrancevia

[austere sparrow]

I really hope you can keep them together, even though that realistically doesn't make a whole lot of sense

[austere sparrow]

If this does become a thing, I hope they find a way to make Rivalling species receive some sort of buff while in adjacent exhibits

[late swallow]

But it does! They coexisted, even with other large carnivores! The niche partitioning is so fascinating!

[austere sparrow]

Also I want multiple rivals to be possible because Allo should get to beef with both Stego and Cerato

[ancient ibex]

Alectrosaur grade animals would go hard, once again

[wild relic]

Khankuuluu

[digital pendant]

hyenas and lions niche partition yet i dont think its a great idea to mix them in zoos

[austere sparrow]

I mean, coexstisting in the wild is one thing, being able to share a zoo exhibit is another

[ancient ibex]

I believe they are more like competitors, they overlap and target the same prey items

[late swallow]

Kinda looks like he ran into a wall a few too many times

[austere sparrow]

I dunno, feel like we can just wait to inevitably get Albertosaurus and recreate the vibe with ontogeny

[steep tulip]

Would be cool ngl
No idea for cenozoic tho
Ig lion and mammoth and smilodon with megatherium
Did smilodon hunt doedicurus or other glyptodonts

[ancient ibex]

Also this lol

[austere sparrow]

I believe that's perspective? Is looking at us

[digital pendant]

heavily depends on the region tbh

[digital pendant]

strawmaning doesnt change the fact that on average they will kill one another when given the chance in nature and mixing them in a zoo setting is an invitation for animal abuse

[austere sparrow]

I guess carnivores do sometimes get along when raised together from birth, I suppose that would be a neat game mechanic to have

[digital pendant]

now, you can get creative and sell the illussion they share an exhibit through smart exhibit layout and moats

[ancient ibex]

Oh yeah, they CAN get along under certain conditions, but the relationship in natural environments is highly antagonistic

[digital pendant]

i find that more clever than just dropping certain animals together

[austere sparrow]

I mean, we can do a lot of cool shit with sightlines, but it's neat to have gameplay benefits.

[late swallow]

Rock walls, I guess? While keeping it technically one pen?

[austere sparrow]

...Maybe the visitors can get a boost to happiness if they see same formation species soon after each other. That honestly makes more sense than the current formation bonus system

[steep tulip]

Apparently they weren't a main part of its diet
We would need macrauchenia, doubt a smilodon would have taken on an adult megatherium anyway

[plush nacelle]

Haast eagle and giant moa. Greatest beef in cenozoic

[steep tulip]

That one works lol

[digital pendant]

they did hunt larger sloths, thats why populator was so massive compared to fatalis

ofc not alone, at least a small group

but it was much more specialized to take down larger animals on average

[austere sparrow]

I mean if a beef system is already in I feel like you can make it work for animals that don't predate each other but are niche rivals. Like La Brea Smilodon and big lion, for example.

[steep tulip]

Oh neat
Ig not too far fetched then

[digital pendant]

yeah thats why populator was so buffed up

[austere sparrow]

Even though if you want to be pedantic a lot of solitary animals should probably have beef with their own species. :V

[digital pendant]

needed those arms to pull big stuff

[digital pendant]

oh thats why im saying moats and stuff, you could technically have one large exhibit with two disctinct keeper entrances divided by a moat

[steep tulip]

Ngl
If there's indeed another herbivore in u19
Wouldn't complain if its macrauchenia
Getting more south american rep and rounding up with (possibly) megatherium and doedicurus

[digital pendant]

so the habitat counts as one and give bonuses without the animals killing one another

[austere sparrow]

Oh, that checks out

Do moats even inhibit animals ingame rn, tho?

[digital pendant]

yes

they cant cross it

blocks the pathfinding if its a decent height

[austere sparrow]

Neat

[digital pendant]

you could also just put a rock wall

a hidden custom fence with the modular pieces

lots of options to explore

[austere sparrow]

Guess that also allows for formation bonuses with prey/predator species. 🤔

...Do guests mind being in exhibits?

Cuz with custom fence modular pieces and null fences you could do some. Utterly silly nonsense

I'm thinking entire formation-dedicated areas that are technically one exhibit

[late swallow]

I've got a bridge where they go through my Dinosaur Park? Exhibit [Styra, Charon, P. cyrtocristatus, and Lambeo]

[austere sparrow]

Nice

[feral cedar]

What are “alectrosaurs” in this context beyond Alectrosaurus itself?

Alectro lived with Gigantoraptor

[shell sonnet]

Pantyrannosaurian that aren't Eutyrannosaurians

[ancient ibex]

That grade of animals Eutyrannosaurs evolved from

[shell sonnet]

i presume

[ancient ibex]

Pantyrannosauria is more inclusive

[austere sparrow]

Eukaryota

[hardy rock]

I’d love to see
• Qianzhousaurus
• Olorotitan
• Yi Qi
• Yutyrannus
• Coahuilaceratops
• Sinosauropteryx
• Synthoceras

[shell sonnet]

Yi Qi is coming

in U16

[left spear]

Yuty is also very likely to come after EA not only because of It being Yuty but because It also was in the old roster

[hardy rock]

Oh neat!

[late swallow]

Olorotitan is a good pick

[hardy rock]

I’d also like to see Heterodontosaurus

[late swallow]

And Coahuilaceratops is a funky little guy

[left spear]

If you're curious this is what It looked like

[hardy rock]

Ooooh neat!

I’m not sure if I’m personally a fan of the skins, but I love how it looks

[shell sonnet]

I hope that one is U16

love that fuzzy little nightmare

[hardy rock]

Little dubious creature

[short rover]

Holding out hope for it to be one of the “weirdo” dinosaurs

[shell sonnet]

yeah, the fact it has three kinds of teeth (whereas most dinosaurs only have one), is covered in fuzz, and is likely an omnivore do classify it as a weirdo. I suppose they could go for one of its relatives as well

[inner wedge]

would azhdharcids fly or walk most of the time in this game

[shell sonnet]

walk

[hardy rock]

Walk most definitely

[inner wedge]

would be kinda sad ngl

[short rover]

Why

[inner wedge]

but i guess a proper quetz exhibit would be as big as a city

[austere sparrow]

I'd wager most fliers would spend a lot of time walking or climbing or swimming (if possible)

[short rover]

They were probably walking most of the time irl anyways

[inner wedge]

because they wouldn't be able to fly simply enough

[short rover]

Source?

We literally don’t know anything about any flying mechanics at all

[shell sonnet]

I think the bigger question is if they should need aviary like exhibits like other pterosaurs

[short rover]

I don’t think the devs do either

[inner wedge]

source on what

[short rover]

I just said they’d probably walk more because azhdarchids are very ground loving pterosaurs

[short rover]

Source on them not flying enough ingame, it’s rhetorical

Because no source exists

[cold hearth]

Of course I'd love to see Gorgosaurus, Daspletosaurus or Albertosaurus in the game ! But they have already been suggested by the community...

[inner wedge]

it's not like you can keep them in a regular exhibit tho

or even a typical netted exhibit for big birds

[short rover]

It’s not like you could keep a mosasaurus in any conceivable aquarium either

I think we’ll have to suspend our disbelief a little bit

[inner wedge]

and let the giraffe sized monster a chance to fly away from the goddamn zoo?

[hollow furnace]

Yes you absolutely could

[short rover]

What

[plush nacelle]

Big pterosaurs probably wouldnt need to fly at all in captivity

[short rover]

Irl no but I’d want them to fly ingame at least a little

[plush nacelle]

Just like most birds simply walk around

[inner wedge]

yes but you'd be missing on flying quetz which even if it would be rare even irl would be great to watch

[hollow furnace]

We use netted enclosures to keep in animals as large as azhdarchids in the modern day just fine, like tigers, gorillas, particularly large humans..

[hardy rock]

I feel like large non-azhdarchids would be inclined to fly at least a little bit

[short rover]

I agree

[hardy rock]

I can reasonably see azhdarchids being fine with just walking around

[inner wedge]

didn't know there are 6 meter tall tigers in zoos

[short rover]

You act as if that matters when tigers weigh like twice as much as them

[inner wedge]

The tiger, of course, flies anyway because tigers don't care what humans think is impossible

[hardy rock]

It’s a flying animal… a netted enclosure could definitely hold it, just make sure the rope’s strong

[inner wedge]

true

[short rover]

A flying animal that weighs like 200 pounds

A net would be fine

[inner wedge]

not saying big pterosaurs should fly all the time, it's the reverse; just that they shouldn't be stuck to land all the time because they'd do that in captivity

kinda like storks in zoos afterall

[plush nacelle]

I dont think u realise how big some aviaries can be in zoos

[hardy rock]

They get giant

[outer crater]

Well the game doesn’t need to be that realistic

You could have unrealistically big aviaries and aquariums

[plush nacelle]

We definitely could build big aviary for quetzal.

Being honest ground sloths would be more difficult to keep inside

[shell sonnet]

Question is will be like the JWE system or something else

[plush nacelle]

Animal this big and burrowing?

[short rover]

It would depend on the ground sloth, not all of them burrow

[late swallow]

Flapping flight is one of, if not the most biologically expensive forms of locomotion

[outer crater]

A concrete floor stops them

[short rover]

A bison sized animal with massive claws? A concrete floor does not stop them

At least not for too long

[tidal flame]

Simple put two concrete floors one on top of another

[short rover]

The concrete would have to be like feet thick

[tidal flame]

We spare no expense

[steep tulip]

I love how its face looks like a sea horse

[late swallow]

And it's crest like a hatchet

[hardy rock]

I love that picture too, very beautiful animal

[outer crater]

I mean the size of the animal and claws doesn’t change the fact that keratin doesn’t scratch concrete and would just turn into dust if rammed into concrete

[short rover]

The claws have bone in them so

[outer crater]

They would probably stop digging before any bone is exposed

[austere sparrow]

I absolutely love Olorotitan

[short rover]

Rats can chew through concrete, I know that’s a little different but I wouldn’t put it past the digging animal to yknow, dig

[tidal flame]

Olorotitan is such an underrated hadrosaur

[digital pendant]

you forget the very powerful arms. Giant anteaters can crack concrete

[hardy rock]

Also, I’d like to ask, is there anyway to put in skin ideas?

[digital pendant]

and while not a xenarthran, pangolins sure can as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=w_eMCnIITSA&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F

[late swallow]

The most cervical vertebrae of hadrosaurs

[digital pendant]

now imagine the damage something like a megatherium could do

even if not a burrowing animal per se

[short rover]

Or even a nothrotheriops

[plush nacelle]

Imagine amount of concerate required to fill the exhibit

[short rover]

Would be quite expensive

[hardy rock]

It’d be better to just use steel or something of the sort

[late swallow]

It's only about the average parking lot

[austere sparrow]

Concrete cracking Cocainesloth is reasonable but I'm getting JWE flashbacks

[tidal flame]

Tbf we have to consider that this animal would be content taking a man made burrow rather than exerting energy to make it own however maybe make the concrete barriers a bit deeper into the ground so the sloth can change the burrow to suit it more

[austere sparrow]

Fucking Ornithomimids cracking concrete with their skulls...

[tidal flame]

Now that’s scary

[late swallow]

The foot strikes too

[digital pendant]

jwe do be silly in that aspect

now dont forget the babies will be able to smash concrete fencing too lol

[plush nacelle]

Baby animals also mash heads into walls

[hardy rock]

Dear god… now image what a pachycephalosaur could do… 😱😂

[tidal flame]

That’s why the jwe animals are all messed up because they lost to many brain cells to the great concrete wall

[amber field]

Speaking of xenarthran , do we have anything about extinct Anteaters ?

I was sreaching for one to suggest but did not find any

[digital pendant]

there is a couple of tamandua like animals

and an undescribed couple of bones from a very similar looking animal to a giant anteater, but 3 times the size, from Venezuela

[amber field]

I found this , it name is Neotamandua

[slim flare]

Late Pleistocene?

[austere sparrow]

Holy shit big Tamandua

[late swallow]

Tbf that's not behaviourally unheard of, have you seen children?

[amber field]

So giant giant anteater

[late swallow]

I will ride him into battle

[digital pendant]

early pleistocene

found in one of the tar pits

[tidal flame]

Giant Pacarana

[amber field]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protamandua
there are not that much about them, this is another one

[late swallow]

Guinea bigger

[tidal flame]

We need more Jurassic and Triassic animals to be completely honest with y’all

[hardy rock]

Also, I had an idea for enclosures for really small species that aren’t aviaries

[tidal flame]

Liscowania would be cool

[hardy rock]

Something similar to the reptile house in the Brookfield Zoo

Maybe something like a drepanosaur could be in em

[tidal flame]

Aren’t we getting this already in a future update?

[hardy rock]

I wouldn’t know, I’m sorta new here

[shell sonnet]

Honestly, if we're going by lack of reps for time period, than Paleozoic should be first followed by early and mid-Cenozoic. We've got a fair number of Jurassic animals even if they're conentrated around Morrison

[late swallow]

P sure we'd be getting things like these in u16, but we haven't seen any of the mini exhibits

[tidal flame]

Yea I think there was something awhile back similar to this idea the the team is working on

[hollow furnace]

We're getting terrariums, but they are a lot larger then those

The small terrarium is 4x8 meters, while those look to be closer to 1-2 meters squared

[tidal flame]

Tbf lots of the jurassic species are sauropods and dont get me wrong, I love sauropods but even I can tell when theres not enough of something else

[slim flare]

Diplodocus!

[shell sonnet]

I mean most of the big name Jurrassic animals are Sauropods

[slim flare]

Stegosaurus, Allosaurus, Ceratosaurus, Dilophosaurus

So I’d say no

[shell sonnet]

Dippy, Brachi, Apato/Bronto and no I would not say that Cerato is a big name

[slim flare]

Why not?

[short rover]

I’d argue cerato is close to as big as dippy

[shell sonnet]

Dippy is the sauropod for certain countries

like France, the UK and Russia

It's why it got a spotlight in WWD

[tidal flame]

Pictures of the terrariums for the people who mentioned them

[hardy rock]

Oh! Cool!

A LOT bigger than what I was thinking though

[slim flare]

Well yeah, it has to hold 9 foot grandpa

[flint sable]

tiktaalik is not gonna be 9 feet long though

look at the uh size comparison in the image

[tidal flame]

Got no clue when its coming to the game but probably not very soon with them working on nesting, gallimimus, prehistoric plants, etc.

[flint sable]

its like 4 feet long

[flint sable]

our guesses are late this year

like december, possibly late november in best case scenario

[tidal flame]

Also disease, they're working on disease

[steep tulip]

Ceratosaurus as always been a decently known animal

[tidal flame]

poor cera

[steep tulip]

Like even if its not as famous as the others

It has been depicted in media quite a lot

[tidal flame]

Ceras probably my favorite carnivore from the morrison

[steep tulip]

Same

And one of my fav theropods

[shell sonnet]

it's not an obscurity but not as high as you might think

it's certainly not on the level of Dippy

[tidal flame]

I would love to see hypsilophodon

such an interesting dino

[shell sonnet]

google or book illustrations

[tidal flame]

Only places of media ive seen it in is the Jurassic Park novel and The Isle

[hardy rock]

Cryolophasaurus might be nice to see

[tidal flame]

Could come in a winter update with some of the other Antarctic dinosaurs

[hardy rock]

I have very mixed feelings about the Isle’s Hypsy

One hand, based off my favorite bird

[tidal flame]

agreed

[hardy rock]

Other hand, The Isle…

[tidal flame]

is it a bird of paradise?

and yea the isle is well... something

[hardy rock]

King of Saxony Bird of Paradise

[tidal flame]

thought so

I studied all of the species of bird of paradise awhile back

[hardy rock]

I studied them as much as I could back when I was in middle school

Awesome family

[tidal flame]

So interesting how such a family diversified so much

If I'm not mistaken some of the "species" are thought to also be hybrids by some ornithologists

Got no idea if that theory still stands though

[hardy rock]

Btw is there anyway to suggest skins?

[flint sable]

I mean

you can

there is a way you can guarentee your skin gets in though

it will cost you tho

[steep tulip]

African forest elephant have a good chunk of palaeoloxodon dna in them

[vivid field]

same, i love cerato

[steep tulip]

Like around 30%

It happened with humans too technically

Ik not birds
But it wouldn't really be surprising since it happens a lot

[low bridge]

Hmmm if Baryonyx lives near rivers so Hippo Gorgops should be good in game as mammal that spends time near water 🤷🫥😵‍💫😵‍💫

Or nuh

[outer crater]

Nah don’t do hippo

maybe giant beaver

[short rover]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-family-guy-i-did-not-care-conversation-gif-19568330

“I do not care for Hippoptamus gorgops”

[inner wedge]

they did not flap flight tho

[inner wedge]

they're essentially premade exhibits rather than true terrariums

[short rover]

They most certainly did

[inner wedge]

which is fine for cat-sized animals like compy or for aviaries but too big for some animals

[late swallow]

Yeah, I'd really like to see ones smaller than that, but I suppose it all depends on how small of animals we get

[inner wedge]

last i heard they did their take off with their limbs and they have a soaring flight style like most big birds today

[short rover]

They took off with their arms yes then flapped to gain altitude

They didn’t just hover into the sunset

They would have mostly been soaring yes but they did flap their arms

https://youtu.be/mkML2-_QIMk?si=N_-pruSR-14ZGqTF

[inner wedge]

flapping just to gain altitude isn't as intensive as flapping for the full takeoff let alone as a flying style

and dont post documentaries as proof

[short rover]

That’s the best guess we have to how they moved tho lol

The pterosaurs present in prehistoric planet are the best researched rendered and shown animals in the entire series

[steep tulip]

I mean
Php did their research correctly

[short rover]

Mark witton who is the leading pterosaur expert in the world personally worked on them

So yes I will post a documentary as proof of my point

[steep tulip]

Also fair to say, some azhatchids may have flapped more than others since they weren't all giants
Especially early ones
Tho mostly depends what they were doing

[short rover]

I don’t even deny that they were likely mostly soaring

But saying they didn’t flap is just stupid lol

Like yes they clearly launched upwards and hovered away into the atmosphere without flapping their wings at all

[low bridge]

Ok but Arsinoi,Moeri are better than it

[short rover]

I agree

[hollow flower]

I mean this in the most pure way possible I believe gorgops might be one of the most overrated extinct animals out there

[short rover]

If you want a dead hippo at least give me one of the mini Madagascar ones or hexaprotodon

[hollow flower]

Its one of the very few animals I actively dislike seeing in paleomedia

[steep tulip]

There are a lot of others semi aquatic animals I want to see before we get to a hippo

[ancient ibex]

Stretching the definition of hippo I'd go straight to anthracotheres

[short rover]

Very much stretching the definition

[ancient ibex]

I mean, about as much of a hippo as indricotheres counting as rhinos

[short rover]

True

[late swallow]

If they had a similar wing structure to Albatrosses, they definitely wouldn't need much force. But that initial is what gets most flighted animals. I wouldn't be upset to see an Azhdarchid, rather I'd be excited to

[cinder python]

If the game sells well and gets marine species I need the tiny whales Cetotherium

[low bridge]

Astrapotheres like Hilarcotherium, Xenastraphotherium would Fit in Prehistoric Kingdom

Granastraphotherium also

Lightning beasts would be Nice tbh

[tidal flame]

What yalls thoughts on diabloceratops?

[toxic oriole]

The devil from the bible

[austere sparrow]

The Dibble

[inner wedge]

mite b cool

[austere sparrow]

I would like it down the line, once we finally have a good amount of mammals

[inner wedge]

i think the game could do with some more ceratopsians

[toxic oriole]

Infernodrakon is another one of those hell name themed animals

[late swallow]

Lomve himb

[toxic oriole]

Diabloceratops and Infernodrakon go well together for HELL NAMES!!!

[austere sparrow]

This is a Christian server. Please say 'Heck'

[toxic oriole]

Devilhorned Ceratopsian + Dragon from Hell

[austere sparrow]

(Ignore for the purposes of this joke that I have probably said Hell Creek like thrice today alone already)

[toxic oriole]

Infernodrakon be like:
Hellfire Azdharcid

Thats pretty much what I can describe it by name

Elements moment
Cryodrakon
Infernodrakon

Fire and Ice

[austere sparrow]

Assigning elements to Extinct Animals is fun.

I like to use the Pokemon elements as a template but Poison sure gets underutilized that way

[tidal flame]

We need more mammals from more places

specifically places like la brea

i cant think of anymore mammal bone yards but la brea is a big one

[late swallow]

Rancho La Brea could give us M. columbi

[low bridge]

Definitive must have for Prehistoric Kingdom

[slim flare]

It’s ok

Would prefer Pentaceratops tho

[late swallow]

Penta is good too

[slim flare]

We need a second Chasmosaurine

[low bridge]

Agate Springs, Olduvai Gorge,Liushu Formation also

[late swallow]

What's your #1 want in pk?

[slim flare]

Pachycephalosaurus

[late swallow]

Reasonable

[slim flare]

After that Carnotaurus

After that? Probably Armagasaurus

[hardy rock]

I love them

[late swallow]

Mate you're just swinging bangers

[hardy rock]

Amarga would be amazing…

[hardy rock]

Hibbertopterus might be cool…

[sharp dock]

Hibbertopterus pineapple rice bowl

[pastel river]

Has anyone suggested caihong yet?

[austere sparrow]

Checked, yes

Caihong is interesting! Not sure it has the biggest chances to still make it in since we already have Microraptor tho

[pastel river]

Yea but caihong is different from microraptor. It's colorful and has a crest. Also super small

And you can never have too many tiny dinos imo

[hardy rock]

True

More tinies the better honestly

Good for petting zoo!

[plush nacelle]

Tinies in PK wont be able to interact with outside world

[outer crater]

Need jakapil

[slim flare]

Unfortunately pretty fragmentary

[austere sparrow]

I somehow missed how large Elaphrosaurus is

Was skeptical of it being a suitable "companion-animal" for Kentrosaurus before but considering the size it's definitely good

Somehow thought it was Limusaurus sized for the longest time 😅

[slim flare]

I remember when it was reconstructed as a giant Coelophysis

[austere sparrow]

I mean. I guess the main difference now is that it is reconstructed with a different head

...It's also like. Appreciably big while being distinctly not huge. About person tall. Don't think we have many dinosaurs in that size range

[slim flare]

Yes but it’s herbivorous head completely changes how you view it. Now it’s a big proto-Ornithomimid instead of a weird giant post-Coelophysis.

[sage gull]

Sinosauropteryx

[slim flare]

Yutyrannus is probably coming

[sharp plinth]

They are adding compy but I still feel like sino would differentiate enough

[late swallow]

I do like how Sinosauropteryx is one of those dinosaurs that could possibly skip the 2d concepting

[late swallow]

Yeah, major difference

[sharp plinth]

Hm

[slim flare]

Yeah, one is a hatchling Megalosaurus and the other is a hatchling Yutyrannus

[sharp plinth]

I love yuty, both paleo and jwe2 versions

[late swallow]

We know a lot about how Sinosauropteryx looked

[sharp plinth]

Generally, I just like the colours of sino

[strange lion]

rhamphorhynchus!! A fun tiny pterosaur, would be cool for aviaries. Unsure if any pterosaurs are planned

[sharp plinth]

Is there a paper backing this up?

It seems unlikely

[slim flare]

There is but it’s not actually that likely

[steep tulip]

Schizophrenia

[sharp plinth]

Wth

[steep tulip]

We have juvie yuty

and its nothing like sinosauropteryx

[sharp plinth]

Alr

Thought so

[slim flare]

Yixian is a blackhole of theropods of uncertain ontogeny and relation

[sharp plinth]

Couldn't agree more

[lean hound]

Pretty sure it got sized up recently-ish

Prehistoric wildlife isn’t a good source for size comparisons

Anyway

Pterosaurs/flying animals are something the devs want to add eventually but there’s no confirmation they will

Something like that

[pastel river]

Wasn't sino found with an egg in it?

[hollow furnace]

It’s debatable what it is

[slim flare]

Not really confirmed what it is

David Peters moment

[hollow furnace]

If only people had looked at Sinosauropteryx fossils with electron microscopes so we could’ve looked at the microstructure to check if they were eggs or not…

[strange lion]

Rlly? Where did you see that it was sized up?

[short rover]

Ramph is big

[strange lion]

The largest specimen as far as I’m aware had a wingspan of 5.9 ft, is that correct info?

[austere sparrow]

Wasn't Rhamph also nocturnal?

...Actually I guess rn diurnal/cathemeral/crepuscular animals hardly care about the day night cycle so I guess that's not that much of a problem... 🤔

[strange lion]

Not sure about that

but I’ve read that it probably would have foraged in the water while swimming like modern birds, and wouldn’t have been as much of an aerial piscivore as it is often depicted in art

Their wingspan is honestly similar to that of a great black-backed gull if the biggest specimen really is around 5.9 ft

[steep tulip]

Biggest specimen should be bigger than that

It supposedly around dearc size

And dearc is like almost 3 meters in wingspan

5.9 is the average of the other biggest specimens

So around gannet sized

[strange lion]

Oh, really? I’ve only heard of the 5.9 one, that’s cool!! Much bigger!

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-that-guy-spiderman-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-spiderverse-kingpin-gif-20437897

[ancient ibex]

Mostly involving Huaxignathus meeting diagnosic stuff for Sinotyrannus

But Sinosauropterygids growing quite a bit is all but given

[hollow flower]

Weird aquatic critters

[steep tulip]

Eretmorhipis my beloved

I need thalattosuchians, I need hupehsuchians, I need placodonts, I need other basal sauropterygians

Meant thalattosaurs, but thalattosuchians based too

[feral cedar]

where did he comment this

I'm curious as to the context

[ancient ibex]

On a post comparing Huaxignathus and Sinotyrannus by Cau

[feral cedar]

If Sinotyrannus and Huaxiagnathus are the same doesn't that mean the species is present in Yixian and Jiufotang?

[ancient ibex]

The lineage, yep

[tidal flame]

Bruh I really should have gone through with the plan to suggest an oviraptor today

[short rover]

A plan? To suggest an animal?

[tidal flame]

Not really a plan but I was thinking of at least posting the idea of oviraptor but I thought maybe it would be too iconic but now that im thinking about it iconic species will make prehistoric kingdom more of a attractive game

too people who are thinking of buying the game I mean

[austere sparrow]

...We have known Oviraptor was coming for a month now? It was in the last devlog?

[tidal flame]

fr?

[flint sable]

yes

[tidal flame]

i thought it was just galli that was pretty finished and was coming with update 15

[flint sable]

nope

we got concept art for ovi last months devlog

not a render tho

[tidal flame]

any other surprises i dont know about?

yep found the art, i must have overlooked it in the dev diaries

[short rover]

Yes

But you’ll have to join patreon 😉

[tidal flame]

I refuse as a man who can wait for the stuff to come out for the public

[alpine olive]

Prenocephole

Also miragaia

[vivid field]

dacenturus with miragaia alt

[toxic oriole]

I mean, I know one of the two is probably gonna be merged with the other

So having them as alts would be fair enough

[tidal flame]

Longisquama

[waxen grail]

Albertosaurus with Gorgosaurus alt would still be a good choice

Idk why I felt like bringing it up again

[low bridge]

Hope for Purrusaurus

[outer crater]

Corythoraptor. Huge crest and funny looking body

[glass timber]

Dacentrurus armatus the biggest stegosaurid

[hardy rock]

Longisaquama would be so rad

[sharp plinth]

every time i see its skeleton i think 'chicken'

[lyric gulch]

Give me the thylacine pretty please with a cherry on top

[sharp plinth]

i think its coming?

in one of the dlcs though.

dunno if confirmed

[lyric gulch]

Im pretty sure it was in the fundraiser goals but not enough money was raised so idk if its even possible of coming or not

[sharp plinth]

would be cool though

[lyric gulch]

yeah

thats the 1 animal I really want

[sharp plinth]

my favourite is already in the game thankfully

[lyric gulch]

whats your fav?

[sharp plinth]

mate

look at my pfp

[lyric gulch]

oh yeah that makes sense 😂

What other animal would you love to see

[sharp plinth]

longisquama

aquilolamna

theri

[lyric gulch]

very unique and would be great for the smaller enclosures

[sharp plinth]

yeah

aquilo would be good for aquatic terrariums (as in fully aquatic)

[lyric gulch]

im from tasmania so thats why im hoping for the thylacine

[sharp plinth]

wait no too big

aquilo would be too big for a terrarium

still a good aquarium creature

i hope we get trilobites too

any kind really

from trident heads to spiky bois

[lyric gulch]

I can already tell the devs would cook

[sharp plinth]

yeah

[lean hound]

Recently extinct dlc would have that

So it’s basically confirmed

[lyric gulch]

is the recently extinct dlc confirmed?

[sharp plinth]

sick

[tidal flame]

https://tenor.com/view/longisquama-triassic-my-beloved-longisquama-my-beloved-gif-22453347

[toxic oriole]

I don't understand though

Too many sources say Stegosaurus is the largest stegosaurid, yet some say that Dacentrurus is the largest one

I'm getting mixed signals here

WHICH ONES THE ACTUAL LARGEST!?

[austere sparrow]

Dacentrurus isn't fully complete so that might explain why people disagree?

Okay if we go by weight, Dacentrurus is estimated to be between 5 and 7.4 metric tons, while Stegosaurus is estimated to be 5 tons (according to Wikipedia)

So just off of a skim, seems like chances are Dacent is larger. Given the uprighter way Dacentrurines are often reconstructed, it probably also (at least looked) taller, although I am not sure how

...Wait I literally have both the Wikipedia pages open lmfao. One second.

Okay it seems Dacentrurus has probably a meter of length on the larger Stegosaurus species

So I guess. People thinking Stegosaurus is larger either aren't aware of Dacentrurus, or refuse to count it for being more fragmentary (?)

Hm. We do have a front limb, a lot of vertebra, and the hind limbs so. Frag enough we're not sure what it exactly looked like, I guess.

[toxic oriole]

Then again if it gets merged with Miragaia or vice versa...

I'm not entirely sure which ones probably the other

[austere sparrow]

I mean it getting merged with Miragaia won't make it disappear

[toxic oriole]

That is true though

It also makes Miragaia larger

[austere sparrow]

Miragaia was named later

So Dacentrurus would be the "winning" name there

[toxic oriole]

So Miragaia would cease to the realm of names and become the second member or probably alot of members of Dacentrurus

[austere sparrow]

Dacent is 1902, Miragaia is 2009 so like. A hundredseven years later lol

Would be the case

[toxic oriole]

I can see meme material already

[austere sparrow]

Am personally on team "Miragaia is probably distinct" rn tho

[digital pendant]

large prehistoric hyrax would go so hard

Postschizotherium

[austere sparrow]

There's some funky extinct giant hyraxes

[toxic oriole]

What even is a Hyrax?

[austere sparrow]

...Could probably go for one with an easier to remember name 😅

[digital pendant]

small fluffy relatives to elephants

[austere sparrow]

Hyraxes are little rodent looking things. They like to sit on rocks.

(They are not rodents and get offended if you refer to them as such)

[digital pendant]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyrax

[austere sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hyrax-tongue-cute-gif-8796240174806249238

[toxic oriole]

I don't understand why people say Multituberculate mammals are not rodent-like at all
It says so that they look rodent-like but people say they arent at all

[digital pendant]

oh hyrax are not rodent at all

they dont even have similar dentition

[austere sparrow]

Another thing hyraxes aren't is Multituberculates

[toxic oriole]

Well I'll say, that Hyrax looks adorable

[toxic oriole]

BAH

The timing as soon as I say that and then you send that image

[austere sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hyrax-tomato-funny-chew-teeth-gif-11208825867329472649

[toxic oriole]

Reminds me of a vampire

Just the fangs

[ancient ibex]

Comparable, dacentrurines get longer

[austere sparrow]

Didn't want to post the eating gif initially

[toxic oriole]

Eh, still adorable though

[digital pendant]

https://x.com/JoschuaKnuppe/status/1951070704108986820

Joschua Knüppe (@JoschuaKnuppe)

Good material of large hyraxes is rare, especially outside of Africa. So a new skull of Postschizotherium is really welcome, and on top of it this boar sized creature looks weird as well! Link to paper below!

X · Aug 1, 2025, 12:01 AM

looks so silly from the front

[austere sparrow]

I literally already said that they get longer and seemingly also heavier tho ._.

[austere sparrow]

Oh neat! A Land-hammerhead

I wonder how many of those I've been missing out on because paleoartists refuse to let animals look anywhere but to the side

[toxic oriole]

They should make one face the back

[austere sparrow]

...It's kinda visible in your last image but the soft tissue makes it hard to notice

[late swallow]

This relies on how those masses were calculated

[austere sparrow]

True, but even the lowest estimates place Dacentrurus as equal in weight to the heaviest recorded Stegosaurus

[ancient ibex]

Backing you up tho!

[austere sparrow]

Ah icy, my bad

[late swallow]

To eng, for those that don't speak Spanish:

Iberian Thyreophorans
Clade and Size

[plush nacelle]

Pleistocene East Asia was wild

[austere sparrow]

I do appreciate like. Every time the most famous member of a clade isn't the biggest one but. Dacentrurus kinda spoils it by being so frag lol 🥲

[austere sparrow]

How am I gonna hipster all over this animal if I don't even know what it looked like, smh

Oh, monke horsie

[plush nacelle]

The fact chalicotheres survived there so long to show us how short their faces could get

[austere sparrow]

Kinda wild how similar that looks to a Carnivoran face

[steep tulip]

This is what you get if you fuse every mammal together

[austere sparrow]

I feel like every mammal fused together would have a bit more of a tail, but otherwise; checks out 👍

[steep tulip]

Got absorbed back into the lard

[shell sonnet]

it's missing the cetacean and chiropteran side

[steep tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-hyrax-hyrax-glosiia-mem-gif-1838985437256911889

Nah its there

[shell sonnet]

I don't see the cetacean part

[silver steeple]

Afrotheres (at least the hyrax/manatee/elephant group) were semi-aquatic before they split into the modern groups

[ancient ibex]

Cetaceans are just weird even toed ungulates anyway

[austere sparrow]

Is that proven? I keep hearing it in Paleo circles, but I've never actually seen a source

[silver steeple]

There's a lot of evidence that indicates it but idk if it's ever actually been put to paper

[steep tulip]

Freakiness of cetaceans + they can actually fly

[flint sable]

I buy it that at the very least the manatee/elephant split was (Tethytheria)

since basal manatees and basal elephants look extremely similar

Most basal sirenian (Pezosiren) left, some of the most basal elephants right

[flint sable]

they also arent chalicotheres

[plush nacelle]

My favourite trope. Walking ancestor of fully aquatic animal

[sharp plinth]

Obamadon my beloved

[tidal flame]

La Colonia formation with the recent Koleken and Titanomachya

[low bridge]

Liushu with Dinocrocuta

[leaden hedge]

obama

also I'm just going to slot this in here

[late swallow]

Tooth taxon

[tidal flame]

Magyarosaurus or Europasaurus

[toxic oriole]

Island Dwarfism sauropod vs... Wait

Is Europasaurus also an Island Dwarfism sauropod?

[wild relic]

Yes

[toxic oriole]

Well then

I'll take the popular of the two

Magyarosaurus or something, I think they are the most popular one

[sullen moon]

Troodon Formosus (the species shown is not Troodon but a species of Troodontid) since the species may or may not have recently been valid again as a species, classifying itself as its own species. I think they would be a fantastic addition to the parks since I’d love to see Troodontidae get represented in some way or another

[past mist]

Astrodon my beloved

[left spear]

They're probably similar, maggy has more media rep but europa is a very classic Dino.

I'd say go Maggy to full Up Hateg

Also both Romanian and Hungarian rep which is cool

I don't think Romania can have anything and hungary can only really have Pannonia after Maggy

[tidal flame]

Linhenykus

[final yarrow]

wheres Linkenparkosaurus

[tidal flame]

What is linkenparkosaurus?

[flint sable]

who is linkenparkosaurus

[final yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/linkin-park-in-the-end-linkin-park-in-the-end-music-chester-bennington-gif-26242393

[sharp plinth]

Indubetebly

[wary nacelle]

Nuh uh. We need Nodoubtsaurus and Redhotchillipepperssaurus

[austere sparrow]

Parksosaurus named Lincoln

[hardy rock]

Limpbizkitsaurus durstii

[wary nacelle]

Blondiesaurus or Nirvanasaurus could also work

[sharp plinth]

Sabataurus

[low bridge]

Fatosurus obesus

Joke lolll

[inner wedge]

you called?

[lean spindle]

daspletosaurus 🙂‍↕️

[autumn plover]

Pentaceratops for the 5th PK ceratopsian

[smoky spear]

eh

[autumn plover]

We have ceratopsians with lots of stuff on the grill, ones with barely anything, we have no horn, 1 horn, 2 horn, & 3 horn ceratopsians

[smoky spear]

maybe we should use something more distinct

[autumn plover]

The only characteristic we’re missing is big frills

[low bridge]

We need Dinocrocuta, Acinonyx Pleistocaenicus&Pardinensis, Homotherium

Tbrl

[shell sonnet]

we already have 5

[ancient ibex]

We have 4 ceratopsids or 6 ceratopsians; if you want to go with a species count, we have 7 ceratopsids and 11 ceratopsians

Pentaceratops would go hard as a second chasmosaur genus tho

Penta, Udano+Lepto, Yinlong is something I'd second

[austere sparrow]

I would prefer Chasmo over Penta as the token (first?) Chasmosaur but I don't think I would complain about Penta either

Although I'd prefer something weird-looking like Medusaceratops or Diabloceratops over more basal Ceratopsians, personally

[shell sonnet]

It would, but Ceratopsians are low on my list of wants right now given how many we have. Same with groups like spinosaurs, felines, and rhinos

[austere sparrow]

...If burrowing became a thing tho, even just placable burrows a la Planet Zoo, I would absolutely want Lepto though, that would slap (assuming I am not misremembering about it living in burrows)

Two Lepto skins and one Udano sounds ideal to me in that scenario

[austere sparrow]

Yeah, realistically more Ceratopsians should definitely wait a bit; don't expect any anymore during the EA period, personally

[feral cedar]

Does Yinlong offer much beyond a cool little name for a Jurassic China DLC?

[wild relic]

I haven't got anything to add but y'know "the start of a rivalry"

But I guess its growth rate is something since it's suggested that it only took 6 years for it to reach sexual maturity which is much younger than Psittaco but older than that for ceratopsids

[modern totem]

Dasyleptus triassicus

It is truly... A prehistoric insect of all time

[ancient ibex]

Downright heterodontosaurian looking animal

[shell sonnet]

Wouldn't a pahcycephalosaur be better choice for a Marginocephalian with those characteristics

[wild relic]

Yeah honestly I could see like Homalocephale

[ancient ibex]

Pachy is likely, Preno was on the post-release list

[shell sonnet]

Honestly, I kind of hope Stegoceras would be a choice for DLC given where it sits on the family tree

[ancient ibex]

Hey, to finish the trio up

Pachy, Preno and Stegoceras

[wild relic]

True it could use some more media representation

[ancient ibex]

It is funny how quite different they actually are

[wild relic]

If I had to guess first one is Stegoceras, second is Preno and third is Pachy

[shell sonnet]

that would be correct

[wild relic]

Yes first try

Also why does Preno's skull look like it's angry

[shell sonnet]

if you were missing your lower jaw, you'd be angry too

[wild relic]

I mean true

[austere sparrow]

Very hurtful of you to suggest Yinlong for this when Heterodontosaurs exist and I love all of them so very dearly... 😢
(/notsrs)

[ancient ibex]

I mean, Heterodontosaurus would rock

[austere sparrow]

I hope we get at least one of them...

[shell sonnet]

maybe it'll be one of the minis in U16

[ancient ibex]

Hetero, Lesotho and Scutello, EJ mini trio

[wild relic]

Honestly I'd even suggest Tianyulong

[austere sparrow]

Yeah, fingers crossed. One of the few non-non-avian dinosaurian minis I'm hoping for

I hope they take inspiration from Manidens and let whichever Heterodontosaur they include jump on trees

Wouldn't mind Manidens itself, I think? But Heterodontosaurus, Tianyulong and even Pegomastax feel more likely

[shell sonnet]

Hetero, Lesotho, Massospondylus, and Melanoro for Elliot Formation Quartet

[austere sparrow]

All would be neat imo. Only slightly apprehensive about Lesothosaurus because I vaguely remember it being both tiny cursorial and I am not sure that would work with mini-exhibits

[ancient ibex]

Pegomastax can go fuck off, honestly

Sereno hyping is piece of scrappy material up, and the ark developers being clout chasers

Fuck the entire hype around that jaw tip, it is just a heterodontosaur

[austere sparrow]

Pegomastax is decidedly my least favorite of the Heterodontosaurs but thanks to Ark and that one piece of paleoart they copied that makes it look like a mangy terrier with mange it has a non-zero claim to being the most well known Heterodontosaur... 😔

[shell sonnet]

It's probably big enough for full habitat, if just

[austere sparrow]

I would take it if I got nothing else, but would prefer just about any other Heterodontosaur (including the other frag ones)

[outer moth]

I'd take the small fuzzy aroboreal one

[ancient ibex]

Which is something that utterly annoys me and IMO something that shouldn't be fueled, heh

[austere sparrow]

...Mangy terrier with mange. Great job, me

[ancient ibex]

Heterodontosaurus with stuff known from its relatives is IMO the way to go

[austere sparrow]

Yeah Heterodontosaurus with Manidens and Tianyulong inspiration would be neat

I guess we took Dryosaurus's eyebrows so we can give Heterodontosaurus Manidens's hands 🤔

[tough marsh]

Irrc that was disproven

[austere sparrow]

😭 Really? Dang. Thanks for telling me

Paleontology just refuses to let us have an arboreal ornithopod 😔

[outer moth]

Tianyulong was the name

[austere sparrow]

...Tianyulong is being theorized to be arboreal, now? 🤨

Wonder how long that one will last

[ancient ibex]

"The fuzzy one" among heterodontosaurs is not likely to identify one in particular

[austere sparrow]

Look at it. The goober

[outer moth]

Well, Ugueto drew it as arboreal, so that's mostly a headcanon to me

[austere sparrow]

Hm

[outer moth]

Might not be, for all we know

[austere sparrow]

Non-arboreal animals do climb trees sometimes, depending on size so. I dunno

[ancient ibex]

I mean

[austere sparrow]

Shoutout to All yesterdays Treeceratopsians

[wary nacelle]

Should be canon 😔

[ancient ibex]

The paleofandom's relationship with All Yesterdays is one of toxic bullheadedness anyway

[shell sonnet]

in which direction? I've seen both

[outer moth]

I kinda hope we get some tree branches for the terrestrial terrariums that some minis can use

[brisk spruce]

Sharovipteryx for terrarium and an Ediacaran aquarium item

[austere sparrow]

Most of the All Yesterdays spec I remember is distinctively kinda silly but I do still like the exceptions, and the. Point? It raises

Who doesn't remember Tapir Spinosaurus

[ancient ibex]

As in a kneejerk relationship with the unknown rather than a calm one

[austere sparrow]

Or Stonefish Plesiosaurus

And I guess Fat Parasaurolophus kinda became scientific fact, even though not quite as much as the All Yesterdays version 🤔

[ancient ibex]

Not All Yesterdays tho, just Yoult shitposting while taking a jab at Carlos the weird stalker

I was there when it was forged, 2000 years ago

Unless I'm mixing Spinofaarus with another lipped spino

[austere sparrow]

I am not thinking of Spinofaarus, uh, there was another

Lemme try to see if I can find it

[outer moth]

In fact, I know I keep saying this but we gotta have more customizeability for terrariums than what PZ has
PZ's terrariums are kinda underwhelming, honestly

[austere sparrow]

Gotcha.

Not sure if I love or hate this thing.

It gives me Leviathan (upside down tusked mammoth) vibes.

[ancient ibex]

Huh, I believe that may be related to Spinofaarus, as it is 2 months older and I remember some discussion of that in the lead to the work of art: https://www.deviantart.com/yoult/art/Spinofaarus-vegatiacus-363958667

||(FWIW, quadrupedal theropods are unlikely due to the furcula making weightbearing with the forelimbs quite daunting, as the way the shoulder is set would make it press against the neck vessels, nerves and airway; that may be why, while all other dinosaurs clades developed quad movement independently multiple times, theropods instead reduced their arms)||

[glass timber]

i like it

[late swallow]

yeah i'm 100% down for the puntable

[hollow furnace]

Manidens’ feet are the arboreal part, not the hands (assuming it was from Manidens that material was referred)

[ancient ibex]

God found it 4 days later, but this!

[shell sonnet]

Alioramus' skull really sticks out

[ancient ibex]

Which makes its shared characters with Tyrannosaurins even more striking

[shell sonnet]

I mean it was living beside Tarbo, surely the the relatively thinner and longer skull provided something for it

[ancient ibex]

https://x.com/TomHoltzPaleo/status/1782466746324009066 https://x.com/MesozoicDream/status/1783425229592928745

Alioram adults being known yet still being undescribed is something to keep in mind regarding their nature fwiw

Thomas R. Holtz, Jr. 🦖💕 (he/him) (@TomHoltzPaleo)

@TM9380 @NatGeo_rge Correct; we don't officially have adult Alioramus yet. There are privately-owned skulls (now repatriated to Mongolia) that show what the adult condition looked like.

X · Apr 22, 2024, 5:49 PM

Mesozoic Travelogue (@MesozoicDream)

@TomHoltzPaleo @TM9380 @NatGeo_rge These seem to be lateral photo of same specimen (now in museum). Do you think they are more robust than published skulls of Alioramus?

X · Apr 25, 2024, 9:18 AM

[shell sonnet]

Is GM F10004 not an adult, or is it a subadult?

[ancient ibex]

Not fully grown I believe

There's a reason the one in PhP was albertosaur sized

[shell sonnet]

I haven't seen any of PhP besides the first 1 or 2 episodes

But still, Alberto size is pretty big even if not Rex big

[ancient ibex]

Standard Tyrannosaurid size tho

[shell sonnet]

Fair unless we have reason to believe Teratophoneini are smaller (I know they're rather incomplete)

[ancient ibex]

Lythronax is closer to alberto size

Terato is known from subadults

[tidal flame]

We need nanotyrannus

Should come every April fools

[desert flame]

Nanotyrannus is t-rex's baby

[final yarrow]

psittaco is that big?

[final yarrow]

apparently it has crests in the front of its eyes rather than on top

[shell sonnet]

Sibiricus is yes

[final yarrow]

is it just me or are they way smaller in PK

at least compared to the image i replied to

[final yarrow]

this one looks more like the size ingame

[shell sonnet]

I will admit I don't know for sure

[digital pendant]

The user who made that artwork does have some size inconsistencies here and there on their charts so keep that in mind

[slim flare]

Kaiju Psittacosaurus…

[ancient ibex]

Nah, that's Super Galaxy Psittacosaurus, just needs some sunglasses for the full look

[tidal flame]

We need a taco the size apato

[final yarrow]

its larger than 3 whole continents

[hardy rock]

Damn, I didn’t know P. Sibiricus was that much bigger than Russia

[plush nacelle]

For me adding any hyena over cave hyena is like adding random panthera species over cave lion

Or cat that is not smilodon

[low bridge]

What u say abt Dinocrocuta like that?

[plush nacelle]

Clearly not interesed about it

I dont care about whole ,,the biggest,, thing

[low bridge]

Cave Hyena is good for Cave Trio

With Ursus,P.Spelaea

Tbh

Tusked Rhinoceros should be good since there are no Rhino with tusks

[flint sable]

I think Paraceratherium has tusks

just smallish

ok yeah it and Juxia have tusks

[plush nacelle]

Indian rhinos also have them

[low bridge]

By Tusked Rhinoceros i mean Chilotherium

Fella from Sinotherium formation

[feral cedar]

"lesser hyena"?

How dare you

[low bridge]

Which one is lesser?

By that

[feral cedar]

you said all of them are lesser

it's the "lesser hyena" poll

I will not stand for such slander

[low bridge]

Mb

[feral cedar]

Only now did I realize how SMALL Myotragus actually is

[ancient ibex]

That's why I'm so keen on it and big chungus for the game, from a gameplay standpoint they fit the bill of starting stuff better than Juxia

[feral cedar]

The fact that a rabbit and a goat are the same size thanks to identical, yet opposite phenomena

they get isolated on islands; the goat shrinks, the rabbit grows

[austere sparrow]

We absolutely do need actual starter mammals smh

Mammals rn are in the same position dinosaurs were in before Proto and Scelido were added

[feral cedar]

I assume 'starter' mammals can't be terrarium right

[plush nacelle]

Dawn horse should be great start

[feral cedar]

Eohippus my beloved

[plush nacelle]

Propalaeotherium seems about good size to be main animal

[austere sparrow]

I mean, depends on how much the Terrarium rework affects how Terrariums, uh, work; but rn no

[plush nacelle]

And of course tapir like babes for it

[feral cedar]

How close in size are Eohippus and Propalaeotherium

[plush nacelle]

Propalaeotherium is about twice as big

Something like this

It could have crazy skins potential with all mouse deers and duikers

[ancient ibex]

Proto has been here since the beggining of EA, like taco

[plush nacelle]

Easily fan favourite with babies like this

Small fluffy horses running around

[austere sparrow]

Not sure if I'm Beerenstaining, or remembering the Beta, then

[ancient ibex]

Most likely the beta; Scelido did come later durine EA, December '22 alongside Dilo and Coelo

[flint sable]

Propalaeotherium would be a good pick

also wouldnt be complaining with really any new ungulate tbh

preferably not a rhinoceros though

[flint sable]

any Proceratid would be a nice pick, Id prefer either Synethoceras or Syndoceras

either one

[austere sparrow]

Rhinozoic kindgom 😤

[flint sable]

one is kinda big and one is small

both would be good

[plush nacelle]

There is protoceras mod in PZ I think

[late swallow]

that was neither of the spellings

[flint sable]

Synthetoceras is like the size of a small to medium sized elk, Syndoceras is about as big as an average whitetail deer

[low bridge]

Elephant Kingdom is needed

[late swallow]

nose life

[flint sable]

yeah that modder is honestly peak bro

[low bridge]

Arsinoitherium, Platybelodon

[flint sable]

GreatCakeMods

[low bridge]

Kyptoceras also neat

[flint sable]

but the crazy part is is that basically all of the paleo mods they made were commisioned by the same person

they have had to have spent at the very like like

5k on mod commisions if not more

because theres like 30+ extinct mammals they have commisioned

probably closer to 40 now

[austere sparrow]

These PZ mods make me long for a world where PK has a similar output and willingness to go for obscure mammals and make them look good... 😔
Or alternatively for any PZ modder at all to start making good-looking non-bird dinosaurs

[plush nacelle]

I mean this person likes obscure mammals

[flint sable]

I got good news for you

[austere sparrow]

...You do?

[flint sable]

someones currently working on a Velociraptor yeah

its nearly done

[austere sparrow]

Oh neat

Hopefully it works

[flint sable]

custom animations and everything too

[austere sparrow]

Nice!

[flint sable]

iirc its based on the kiwi but theres a few new animations iirc

for the tail

[austere sparrow]

Those are some. Ugly-ass babies lol

[flint sable]

anyway, back to PK talk

[flint sable]

those were still WIP I think lol

the adult is basically done in this pic tho

anyway

good ungulate picks for PK

or just small mammals in general

[austere sparrow]

I really hope we get a triple treat for Proceratids...

[flint sable]

I think Prolibytherium in addition to the two I mentioned above would be the ones I most want atm

[plush nacelle]

Idk top early game mammals for

[austere sparrow]

Ideally I want a Proceratid with one alt genus, and at least one Stem-giraffe, yeah

[plush nacelle]

Terrariums: leptictidum, darwinius and didelphodon

Main: propalaeotherium, poebrotherium and hyeanodon horridus

[austere sparrow]

Macrauchenia too but that's closer to non-beginner status again

[flint sable]

if I had to pick three for both

[austere sparrow]

I'm not sure if Dwarf elephants are a sensible starter animal but... Do kinda wanna; and it was in one of Mau's wishlists so...

[steep tulip]

Stem giraffe you say?

[austere sparrow]

Not too big a fan of that particular one but I'd take it

Oh! One of the extinct Pronghorns would be neat, too

[flint sable]

Terrarium: Didelphodon (possibly coming in U16, gotta wait and see, could also be another guy, castorocauda comes to mind), Leptictidium, Ceratolagus
Main: Prolibytherium, Synthetoceras, Capromeryx

[flint sable]

great point

they could totally rigshare with proceratids too

actually just because I just remembered that

gonna swap Syndoceras with Tetrameryx

actually nevermind

Capromeryx

[plush nacelle]

Going by PZ logic most ungulates would rigshare

[flint sable]

probably

I could imagine like

small medium and large ungulate rigs

Megaloceroses would be the large one

and then maybe like horses or something could have a different one since they are kinda weird anatomically wise

[flint sable]

specifically for stuff built like deer/antelope

[plush nacelle]

From non-mammals I see moa being good early starter for ceno

Smaller species at least

[austere sparrow]

I think the Dodo would be the starter bird, even though it's DLC locked

Not like there's. Likely to be enough birds to make a zoo themed around them in basegame

Expecting like. One Terrorbird and Gastornis at most, rn

[flint sable]

dont forget the minis

[outer crater]

Big chungus is a peak animal

[flint sable]

depends on your definition of bird we will have three by the end of EA

thats confirmed atm

[austere sparrow]

Hm. Don't expect many non-mesozoic birds but I guess if you want a bird park and don't care for that... 🤔

Depending on your definition of bird Oviraptor could count as a starter bird

...Like. Doesn't seem likely we'll get many Cenozoic bird minis that aren't Recently extinct, rn

And those are DLC fodder I guess

[ancient ibex]

Depending on definition Leaellyna already counts 🙃

[steep tulip]

Cenozoic will probably still get more overall

Than mesozoic that is

Like realistically

Hesperornis
Uhhh

That's about it

[plush nacelle]

Bird roster will get crazy with RE DLC

[austere sparrow]

If Leaellyna counts a bird park is just a cenozoic inclusive dinosaur park tho 😔

[austere sparrow]

I mean I expect like. Maybe three more birds once true fliers become a thing and otherwise...?

[plush nacelle]

Moas, dodo, great auk, passenger pigeon and carolina parakeet are basically shoe in

[outer crater]

big chungus needed

[austere sparrow]

Great Auk I would expect to come definitely, not sure if we have to wait for fully aquatics I guess they can just swim at the top

I do hope we get a big penguin too

...Devs haven't really added anything that isn't quite popular outside of alt genera so far so I'm a little worried for bird and mammal diversity; especially considering they'll still have to battle for spots with Theropod clones

[plush nacelle]

Not like there is many. Most fossil birds are either waterfowl, aquatic or terror bird

[steep tulip]

Does confuciusornis count

As bird

[austere sparrow]

I mean. It does but I was thinking of Cenozoic birds lol

There isn't many but there's a few interesting ones. Mostly just, close relative of modern birds, and a few odd giant ones

[plush nacelle]

Birds are simply built different. Most evolved quickly in paleogene and are still there

[austere sparrow]

Sylviornis is one I'd really like; unique pose for a giant island bird

[plush nacelle]

Idk. Bring as many as possible. New Zealand is goldmine for them

[austere sparrow]

Copepteryx (giant flightless cormorant) is another

[steep tulip]

Archaeopteryx does and doesn't

There's a lot of giant birds we could get

[austere sparrow]

I want that fucking. Mole duck. So bad

The one that looks like Dougal Dixon came up with it

[steep tulip]

Talpanas?

[austere sparrow]

Yes that's the one

[flint sable]

id say so

in the context of bird in this case id say bird = avialae

[austere sparrow]

The giant swan that lived next to P.falconeri would be great too; especially since it's a swan and would allow the devs to go mildly wild with skins

Definitely also would want Dromornis and Genyornis down the line

[flint sable]

hot take but genyornis is kind of a boring bird

[austere sparrow]

And maybe one of the like. Three or so definite mesozoic birds that are large enough to shirk mini exhibit status

[plush nacelle]

Stout-legged wrens in terrarium

[flint sable]

at least compared to its earlier relatives like Dromornis

Genyornis had a boring ostrich beak

[austere sparrow]

❓

I do suppose it's less exciting than Dromornis would be, especially if Vorombe is on the table...

Yeah I guess Vorombe/the elephant bird kinda does what it does while being more well-known, huh

Also bigger, I believe, if you care about that

Does have an even more ostrich like beak tho :V

...I guess I might honestly prefer having an "upright" and a "bent over" Moa instead, come to think of it. They can be friemds.

...Assuming I'm not misinterpreting the seeming "bent over/upright" Moa dichotomy and they didn't just tilt back and forth

[steep tulip]

Give paleo fans 5 mammals, and they will say it's too much
Give paleo fans a big bird, and they will ask for 10 more

[austere sparrow]

Who the hell ever said we had too many mammals, you must be thinking of Ceratopsians

[low bridge]

We need Bramatherium

[austere sparrow]

Okay upon looking further, Moas were just. Usually bent forward. And I guess the upright ones are either inaccurate, or meant to read as alert individuals looking for danger.

Definitely would want both them and some sort of upright big bird in that case.

[plush nacelle]

Moas would need to bend forward due to living in forests

Also no need for great around vision when your main predator jumps at you from above

[austere sparrow]

Moa-nalo, a flightless duck about the size of a goose (Wikipedia, paraphrased)
This is a really funny line if you're someone who considers geese as just big ducks (the way rats are just big mice)

[austere sparrow]

Definitely fair

[ancient ibex]

Vorombe is back into Aepyornis fwiw

[plush nacelle]

elephant bird is elephant bird

[austere sparrow]

Oh, makes sense.

[flint sable]

ture

although mola nalo are like

definitely ducks

since iirc they are really closely related to mallards

yeah they are dabbling ducks

which are like the most duck duck

[plush nacelle]

If hawaii islands were a little bigger we could have second new zealand

This time with megafauna ducks

Bruh. I thought moa nalos were bigger

NZ geese are easily twice as big

[wary nacelle]

Yeah… discokeryx

[plush nacelle]

So many birds to pick. Insane

[wary nacelle]

Birb

[wary nacelle]

Oh and Hallucigenia for terrariums ofc

[hardy rock]

Thought that parrot had very long legs

[slim flare]

Remember what they took from you

[tidal flame]

All of them

We need all of them

We’ll wait is that a Spix Macaw top right?

[plush nacelle]

Glaucaous macaw

[austere sparrow]

Pictured; all the dinosaurs you could ever want or need

Who needs T.rex if you can have birb

[plush nacelle]

Agree. Small dude on left is my fave

Would be perfect pet bird, if it didnt obviously got murdered by rats and such

[vivid field]

Yes.

[tidal flame]

April fools with a bunch of nomen dubiums would be a crazy idea once they’ve gotten past all of the serious updates they gotta release

[steep tulip]

They add parapropalaehoplophorus

[austere sparrow]

April fools, they add extra spiky Iguanodon

"People wanted a more different Cave Bear? Well, behold. Lime Green and Seafoam blue Cave Bear skin."

Nanuqsaurus, but it's just the holotype

(as a modular item)

Dinosaur Statue Park simulator, a new game-mode where you plop down static versions of the dinosaurs instead of actual exhibits.

[flint sable]

JAR foaming at the mouth rn

their models are really good though no joke

[austere sparrow]

What's JAR?

[flint sable]

the creator of these gorgeous models

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2945283292

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