Heterodontosaurids iirc were omnivores.
#Community Species Suggestions
steep crane
sharp plinth
Lowkey excited for galli to be added
steep tulip
Yep, but they preferred veggies
sharp plinth
Time to make a jp scene for it trust
steep tulip
Something like that
hollow furnace
Yep, but they preferred veggies
^
austere sparrow
I want like five Heterodontosaurs. Realistically I will limit myself to suggesting either Heterodontosaurus (for name fame) Tianyulong (for scientific importance) or Manidens (for unique lifestyle and needing more climbers)
sharp plinth
Drepano, must I say more
austere sparrow
Drepanosaurus pog. Sleeper pick
hollow furnace
I want like five Heterodontosaurs. Realistically I will limit myself to suggesti...
That is a lot of heterodontosaurids(I also want all of them)
sharp plinth
Lol
steep tulip
Drepano is an interesting choice
I will leave it at that
austere sparrow
Onchopristis would be a bit weird don't see much skin potential in it compared to fellow Spinobait Mawsoia
sharp plinth
Yeah ig
austere sparrow
Wouldn't mind if they made it work tho
austere sparrow
Ideally I'd want both and keep them together
Like that one Joshua Knueppe artwork
sharp plinth
Tru
Also ostrafrikasaurus would be amazing to see
Basal spinosaurid power
I yapped a bunch holy
austere sparrow
Oh, you play Jurassic World The Game?
Ostafrikasaurus would be interesting, potentially? But it's too fragmentary
If we knew what it looked like, I mean
sharp plinth
The only dino games I play are PK JWE2, and a few roblox ones
austere sparrow
Icy
Oh dang yeah this thing is worse than I remembered 😔
Literally a tooth taxon
austere sparrow
Dang
sharp plinth
Atleast, I think
austere sparrow
Don't really want to play Roblox stuff but thanks for the recc
austere sparrow
It's not like, your or the games fault, Roblox just... Gives me the creeps
sharp plinth
Theres weirdos on there
austere sparrow
Like, the main game's development team, I mean
sharp plinth
But if you stay on the right side they wont affect you
austere sparrow
Aggressively into child labor and not into moderation, those guys
Damn, love playing games where I have to avoid stepping on the toes of unruly children 🙃
austere sparrow
I mean, with Discord it depends on the server tbf. Some apparently get real rancid
sharp plinth
And it took them like a week to ban a child predator
steep tulip
Also ostrafrikasaurus would be amazing to see
Can't even remember how fragmentary this thing is
Probably is like 1 bone
austere sparrow
One tooth
steep tulip
💀
low bridge
Which Animals will be in U18 ??
steep tulip
People be asking for anybody these days
short rover
Which Animals will be in U18 ??
Speculated deinosuchus, ambulocetus, and baryonyx
low bridge
Eh what is about to came to U17 ?
ancient ibex
Allo, Stego and Pachycephalo seem reasonable
low bridge
Besides them what remains, since there is too many slots after them lol
Maybe nodosaurid or something else, pure speculation rly
Penta idk
austere sparrow
Wdym what remains
hollow furnace
I think they’re referring to the other herbivore and frugivore in the trello
low bridge
I think they’re referring to the other herbivore and frugivore in the trello
Real
Procoptodon as combat animal hmmm idk what Devs add besides confirmed ones for U17
austere sparrow
I mean. We don't know for sure? There's that one old "blurred animal names" picture, if that's what you're hoping for, but rumors say that's outdated
outer moth
You gotta agree though, I’ve said worse
austere sparrow
Current theory is frugivore is Pachycephalosaurus, new herbivore is Stego alt
feral cedar
Ivy walked up to EZ and went like
low bridge
🫥🫥🫥
What the heck i am reading, impossible i need to take long nap and eternity long rest
Bye
austere sparrow
What are you reading where now?
austere sparrow
...I do not understand what the image is meant to convey either, but the post isn't that hard to understand, is it
feral cedar
...I do not understand what the image is meant to convey either, but the post is...
it’s like
putting your hand on someone’s shoulder and telling them a truth
low bridge
putting your hand on someone’s shoulder and telling them a truth
This guy on image putting hand on someone shoulder scared me
😵💫
austere sparrow
...Ez, how old are you
austere sparrow
Just asking cuz. You're not allowed to have a Discord account if you're under fourteen
austere sparrow
Insert that scene of Sauron swiping people left and right only instead of armored adults its preschoolers
ancient ibex
Basal spinosaurid power
Just use Monolophosaurus rather than a friggin' tooth
austere sparrow
Monolophosaurus? We already have Dilophosaurus, just stop it at 50% growth
feral cedar
Monolophosaurus would definitely be a better basal megalosauroid than Ostafrikasaurus
low bridge
...Ez, how old are you
I won't tell,sorry
steep tulip
There's like 4 spinosaurs worth adding to the game and we getting 2 in ea
Well we already have one
feral cedar
There's like 4 spinosaurs worth adding to the game and we getting 2 in ea
4 with alts counted?
steep tulip
Without
feral cedar
hmmm
steep tulip
There's no good alts either
feral cedar
and what are these four
hollow furnace
There's like 4 spinosaurs worth adding to the game and we getting 2 in ea
Spino, Bary, Sucho, and Irritator I assume?
feral cedar
Ngl Suchomimus could possibly work as a Baryonyx alt
steep tulip
Irritator unfortunately is just a skull and idk what's going on with the post cranial material
steep tulip
Ngl Suchomimus could possibly work as a Baryonyx alt
It could but it seems devs gonna add it as its own thing
austere sparrow
Realistically Irritator isn't a sensible choice. But also Irritator is the funny
feral cedar
Irritator could be fun with a more Ichthyovenator-style body
low bridge
That usually means you’re not old enough
Im older than this loll
hollow furnace
Irritator could be fun with a more Ichthyovenator-style body
Could theoretically merge them together and make them alts lol
I’m not saying they should, just that they could
steep tulip
If that way I can get irritator I wouldn't complain lol
feral cedar
Even JW kinda cooks with Irritator
feral cedar
There's also this potential interpretation
steep tulip
Ichthyo kinda mid
I remember it was like a hip and some vertebrae
But then I saw some skeletals in which it looked more complete
Tho it might just be material from related genera
feral cedar
Ichthyovenator is like the "other" one of the spinosaurids people actually kinda care about lol
It's sort of there
austere sparrow
I mean realistically all the sufficiently complete Spinosaurids are Spino, Bary and Sucho, and I believe all of those are at least being considered
feral cedar
There's also the possibility of reconstructing Irritator like a Chinese knock off Spinosaurus
hollow furnace
Ichthyo kinda mid
I remember it was like a hip and some vertebrae
But then I sa...
Icthyo is fairly complete, just mostly undescribed
We know what the material generally looks like, it just hasn’t been formally described
austere sparrow
Okay nevermind in that case I support Ichthyo alt
We can probably put it on the Bary model, right...?
steep tulip
Oh I see
Still idk how much I would want it unless is comes with irritator
feral cedar
This is gonna sound stupid but the only reason I don't want Ichthyovenator is because it'll make it difficult to shorten the inevitable Ichthyosaurus
"oh I made an ichthy enclosure"
"which ichthy?"
hollow furnace
This is gonna sound stupid but the only reason I don't want Ichthyovenator is be...
I think we’ve passed that point lol
feral cedar
We need to enjoy the pre-Edmontonia days while we can
austere sparrow
Damn nobody tell you about Para and Para or Pachy and Pachy then
hollow furnace
Pachyrhinosaurus + Pachycephalosaurus, Paraceratherium + Parasaurolophus, etc.
feral cedar
"I made an enclosure for three eds"
"ed what?"
"Edmonts"
"Okay but which one?"
"Edmonto"
"BUT WHICH ONE"
feral cedar
Pachyrhinosaurus + Pachycephalosaurus, Paraceratherium + Parasaurolophus, etc.
those can still be somewhat shortened
Pachyceph, pachyrhino
paracera, parasaur
austere sparrow
Interestingly I usually see people use "Ichthy" for Ichthyosaurus, but "Ichthyo" for Ichthyovenator
austere sparrow
True and fair
feral cedar
God help us if PK DLC makes the game feature Deinonychus, Deinosuchus, and Deinotherium on top of Deinocheirus 😵💫
toxic oriole
Early Cretaceous North America DLC
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........................
austere sparrow
RIP the devs wasting the Sino prefix on knockoff Elasmotherium otherwise
Oh yeah isn't Deinosuchus confirmed as one of the aquatics
Whoops
toxic oriole
Deinoavis
Deinosaurus
Deinovenator
Deinophaganax
Deinowhateverus
feral cedar
Its name was allegedly sighted as part of the wetlands update, supposedly alongside the likes of Ambulocetus
And of course Baryonyx
steep tulip
We need to enjoy the pre-Edmontonia days while we can
Edmontonia is toni
austere sparrow
Considering the whole Peltephilus debacle my trust in those decipherings is limited lol
feral cedar
What happened to Peltephilus
steep tulip
It didn't match
austere sparrow
Edmontonia is toni
Panoplosaurus better imo. More hot
austere sparrow
Hm. That I wouldn't mind, but p sure Preno is too big
steep tulip
Probably
feral cedar
Panoplosaurus better imo. More hot
Panoplosaurus is the ultimate tragedy honestly
austere sparrow
Whaaat? They canned Diictodon? 😭
steep tulip
Yep
austere sparrow
Whyyyy
steep tulip
None of the guesses mau gave us match with diictodon
feral cedar
It has the objectively best name of all the Late Cretaceous nodosaurids - "the completely armored lizard"
I mean SHEEEESH
steep tulip
The permian animal is something else
feral cedar
But then...
it's probably the most 'dull' one
Edmontonia and Denversaurus have the spiky shoulders
austere sparrow
😔 I guess it's not fully diictover oof
feral cedar
Panoplosaurus however seems to be for all intents and purposes a non-club tailed ankylosaurid
Mark Witton drew a piece with Panoplosaurus that he cites as having been reconstructed with advice from Victoria Arbour herself
austere sparrow
Whoa
feral cedar
It lacks the spikiness of its cousins 😔
austere sparrow
Damn. I like the look tho
feral cedar
I mean yeah it's not a bad look by any means
austere sparrow
Makes me want to shill Polacanthus and Gastonia
Even though they. Really do not look like this lpl
I just want more Nodosaurs oof
feral cedar
But panoplo is just not a priority and I somehow doubt it'll be in the game, especially since Edmontonia is so popular
And many MANY people want Denversaurus as an alt
if Denversaurus makes it, I doubt the PK devs would toss in panoplo and include the entire Panoplosaurini in their game
austere sparrow
Yeah... 😔
feral cedar
Makes me want to shill Polacanthus and Gastonia
I CRAVE Polacanthus in the game, it absolutely deserves a major media appearance after so long
Plus... it'd go very nicely with Iguanodon in exhibits
austere sparrow
Feel like they'd sooner bring back Sauropelta as and Edmontonia alt even though its technically not a Panoplosaur probably
Not sure what gets Denversaurus its popularity aside from Saurian hype anyway, lol
feral cedar
Gastonia is also peak but it doesn't have as much OOMPH as Polacanthus mostly because of its formation. Polacanthus could co-exist in enclosures with Iguanodon and even Hypsilophodon if added
Cedar Mountain does have plenty of herbivores but beyond Falcarius and Gastonia few of them are worthwhile additions
austere sparrow
Iguanodon, Polacanthus and Mantellisaurus together would be peak imo
I know Mantellisaurus is probably too un-interesting to get a spot but it's just such an ideal Iguanodon companion
feral cedar
Oh, Hippodraco? Camptosaurus is better
Venenosaurus? Europasaurus is a better small brachiosaurid
Iguanacolossus? North American Iguanodon, too similar to be its own thing, too irrelevant to have been an alt
austere sparrow
Venenosaurus isn't even that small 😔
Like. It's Sauropod small, but not. Small small
feral cedar
I do suppose they could pull a parasaur with a polacanthine rep and do both species of Gastonia with a Polacanthus alt but man, pola deserves three whole ass skins
austere sparrow
...I guess Europasaurus and the likes are also still the size of a fucking camel at the very least so it's not small small either lol
feral cedar
Europasaurus is deceptively large for an insular dwarf, but... it's cool
However idk how I feel about Europasaurus itself cause it suffers from a similar, albeit different problem to Borealopelta
it's a nothingburger from an ecological standpoint, got very little 'formation' gameplay in a sense
austere sparrow
Idk Polacanthus has history but Gastonia is more spiky and that's apparently a prerequisite for Nodosaurs
Yeah...
But I mean. Not like the devs seem to care about catering towards us formation-filling-obsessed nerds oof
austere sparrow
I mean, not bad, but nothing on Gastonia 😔
feral cedar
austere sparrow
Oh hey, Gargoyleosaurus might be a Polacanthine. That genus got basically nothing really going for it outside of being a Morrison Formation critter but I am fond of it, for reasons I don't fully understand myself.
feral cedar
To be fair... Polacanthus is a bit scrappy
If the devs REALLY want to we could make it Gastonia 2.0
austere sparrow
Yeah :/
Gastonia as the main kinda makes sense
And we will probably add its formation anyway (if its not already ingame) since Utahraptor also lived there
feral cedar
Polacanthus' edge over Gastonia is mostly because it's carried by its ecosystem and superior name
austere sparrow
And the children yearn for the beeg Raptor
I'd definitely not mind Polacanthus appearing but like. Iguanodon is kinda my least favorite design as far as PK animals go so I don't mind too much getting to ignore it
feral cedar
Well, pola's formation is also in-game already, iggy comes from Wessex
I think getting both with alts would be the way to go
feral cedar
I'd definitely not mind Polacanthus appearing but like. Iguanodon is kinda my le...
ngl I kinda hope iggy gets a glow up like torvo
PK has no bad designs... but some are definitely better than others
and unfortunately Iguanodon is one of the ones that is on the lower echelon of how good they are
austere sparrow
PK has no bad designs except Iguanodon, Elasmotheriums face details, and one Smilodon skin 
feral cedar
wouldn't go as far as to call them bad
austere sparrow
I guess that's fair
They'll probably fix the problems those animals do have before ever digging their way far down this channel enough to see me say I don't like them, anyway
...I suppose its also like
They wanted to make Iguanodon look retro, and they did successfully do that, but at the expense of not making it fully pass for an animal anymore
Elasmotherium needs a bit of a facelift, especially around the eyes, imo. I am not sure whats wrong, but it just looks so weirdly dopey compared to Coelodonta.
steep tulip
Idk iguanodon apart from the scutes, is very accurate to the real thing
austere sparrow
The Dark Smilodon skin (forgot what its name is) I guess is just a personal preference thing. It doesn't really resemble any modern cat I can think of, and the fur was too short last time I looked, which just makes it look very weird in my eyes. Like a pillow or piece of furniture, maybe, in an odd way?
austere sparrow
Idk iguanodon apart from the scutes, is very accurate to the real thing
I mean the underlying anatomy mostly checks out, but the soft tissue feels too lean and the scutes are beyond excessive, imo. Spino got a smooth and scute option, Iggy should've, too, I think.
...Okay maybe beyond excessive is a bit too harsh. A bit excessive.
austere sparrow
Yeah the neck, face and upper arms are the ones I have the most issue with, I guess. The tail a bit, too. Well, and the scutes, but that's a separate issue. The belly and hind limbs feel okay to me
Definitely wouldn't want them to fully remove the scutes either, Burian wears them really well. Just. Have a scuteless option, lol. (The en-thiccenning can be applied to the Burian variant, too; Burians art does predate most of the shrinkwrapping trends after all)
Burians Iguanodon for reference.
Okay hold on lemme find a better picture actually 
Different painting (obviously) but you can see it closer here.
...Also I rescind my rescinding on the scutes being beyond excessive, they really are. He looks like he's cosplaying as Scutellosaurus 😔
feral cedar
Scutoiguana
steep tulip
I understand if you don't like the scutes, but rest is pretty spot on
Like I don't really see what's wrong
Wrong reply 🥀
austere sparrow
I guess I'm just too much of a soft tissue fiend at times 😔
quick ore
wait I forget is Megalosaurus confirmed to be coming later?
austere sparrow
Looking at the Iggy closer and. Yeah. I guess I mostly just want a thicker neck and thicker upper arms (they had that massive muscle-attachment area on the lower arms after all). The face is actually okay, tissue wise, the scutes just make it look fake shrinkwrapped in a weird way. And the tail might be okay if accounting to perspective but the scutes also make it look stubbier and rattier
In conclusion, Jesus fucking Christ give me a scuteless option please, and a minor touch-up would be appreciated
outer moth
and unfortunately Iguanodon is one of the ones that is on the lower echelon of h...
What do you mean?
Iggy is an iconic design
flint sable
I think they mean in terms of model TLC
like how torvo got it but the design didnt change
outer moth
Honestly it’s too late to ask the devs but y’all could totally try
late swallow
Sea world
lost hamlet
Considering we have the meganeura and arthropleura statues, Id adore if we got them as terrarium species. They'd both fit just fine
The statues are cute but its a little funny having them without the live animals to match 😭
vernal canopy
Ludo was pretty big - the estimated wingspan was about 10-13 feet.
Personally, I'd rather focus on expanding formations for the post-EA species - some more Cloverly species, some more Wessex animals and the last of the Morrison big names (Diplodocus, Ceratosaurus, Camptosaurus...).
austere sparrow
It's incredibly funny to me that Camptosaurus is one of the Morrison big names, but then again like, we DO keep requesting it lol
steep tulip
campto is more towards the lesser known morrison dinos
like same level as torvo I would say
austere sparrow
I mean. Considering Morrison has such bangers as Galeamopus and Mymoorapelta in stock, I feel like Camptosaurus is distinctly middlingly known
Similar tier as Barosaurus and Stokesosaurus and Ornitholestes
They have an animal called fucking Enigmacursor, Morrison is a parody of itself
austere sparrow
Actually, lets have a tour of Morrison dinosaurs real quick. Skipping the dubious ones because that would like, double the length of the list.
Ornithopods:
- Dryosaurus (goat),
- Camptosaurus (goat), Uteodon (might be Camptosaurus),
- Nanosaurus and Enigmacursor (WWD tiny Ornithopods, wouldn't mind, would prefer Hypsilophodon)
Thyreophorans - Gargoyleosaurus, Mymoorapelta (Nodosaurs, interesting they were around already, not very stand-out imo)
- Alcovasaurus (second in line for Miragaia alt material)
- Stegosaurus (goat)
- Hesperosaurus (Stego cousin. Alt material)
Heterodont.: - Fruitadens (unremarkable)
Sauropod: - Haplocanthosaurus (Not bad, but distinctly overshadowed)
- Marapuunisaurus (A single lost bone)
- Dyscolosaurus, Smitanosaurus, Suuwassea (Dicreaosaurs, better options elsewhere)
- Apatosaurus, Brontosaurus, Diplodocus (Shoe-in choices)
- Amphicoelias (Back to being generic Smallio)
- Barosaurus, Supersaurus (Iconic but not very distinct)
- Ardetosaurus, Galeamopus, Kaatedocus (At best Alt bait)
- Brachiosaurus (Giraffatitan at home)
- Camarasaurus (Okay)
- Dystrophaeus (Can be summoned with human sacrifice)
Theropod: - Allosaurus, Ceratosaurus, Torvosaurus (Big, neat and complete)
- Fosterovenator, Hesperornithoides, Koparion, Tanycolagreus, Coelurus, Marshosaurus (Literally who. Might be sleeper picks idk, probably not tho)
- Ornitholestes, Stokesosaurus (Same as above but these appeared in media before so like. I guess that's something)
steep tulip
I mean. Considering Morrison has such bangers as Galeamopus and Mymoorapelta in ...
Oh yeah
I meant among the more known ones
Like how many know about mymoorapelta realistically
austere sparrow
Some of these have some niche fame
Gargoyleosaurus is a starter animal in a crappy dinosaur zoo phone game
Tanycolagreus is a strong-ish creature in that JW phone game (probably hopelessly powercrept by now, but, y'know)
austere sparrow
Kaatedocus, as I said another day, stars as a Barosaur baby stand-in at the National Museum I believe it was (literally asked about this yesterday lmfao)
Marshosaurus I've seen in a dinosaur book for children, like, once
low bridge
Miragaia ain't real
austere sparrow
Foolish silly, Miragaia is the target of a spat of two camps of authors that can't agree if it's valid or not
The bones are definitely real either way tho
🤔 Adding Alcovasaurus to PK to dodge the whole "Miragaia valid or not" headache
Alcovasaurus sweep
Had to scroll back up to double check that I didn't accidentally invent Smitanosaurus
steep tulip
As long as we get dacen I'm fine with both
austere sparrow
Y'know what fuck it, round 2, Dubious Boogaloo
- Drinker, Othnielia, Othnielosaurus (Nanosaurus lumping victims)
- Laosaurus (Four different species, half got lumped into Nanosaurus or Dryosaurus, the rest are too fragmentary)
- Tichosteus (2 species with two bones each)
- Atlantosaurus (Bone so garbage we can't tell if it's a Macronarian or a Diplodocid)
- Saurophaganax (Dubious Sauropod, beloved by toddlers and dinosaur king connoisseurs the world over for being allegedly Allosaurus)
- Creosaurus, Labrosaurus (Allosaurus)
- Antrodemus, Epanterias (Too fragmentary to be identified as anything, but probably also Allosaurus)
- Indeterminate Ceratosaur (Elaphrosaur, seemingly. Currently unnamed)
- Palaeopteryx ("A distal radius")
- Edmarka (Torvosaurus)
(None of these are requests. Consider these anti-requests. Please do not put any of these into the game, I will cry)
sharp sable
Y'know what fuck it, round 2, Dubious Boogaloo
- Drinker, Othnielia, Othnielosau...
saurophagnax is coming (probably) in u17 as saurophagnax/a. anax
ancient ibex
Saurophaganax in game needs 1 sauropod skin and 1 theropod skin,change my mind
It takes a needless ammount of effort
waxen grail
🤔 Adding Alcovasaurus to PK to dodge the whole "Miragaia valid or not" headache
Dacentrurus is a batter option for that. We’ve got enough american species in game (Especially considering the only Stegosaurid that’s confirmed is also american.
waxen grail
🤔 Adding Alcovasaurus to PK to dodge the whole "Miragaia valid or not" headache
This was meant to be sarcastic, wasn’t it?
Either way I would much prefer Daventrurus over Alcovasaurus if they were to be mutually exclusive.
austere sparrow
Not sarcastic, moreso a joke
waxen grail
Not sarcastic, moreso a joke
Makes sense
low bridge
Arsinoitherium is needed in game
ancient ibex
🤔 Adding Alcovasaurus to PK to dodge the whole "Miragaia valid or not" headache
Alcovasaurus has been found to be a Miragaia species by the Miragaia supporting camp
austere sparrow
Nobody is safe
austere sparrow
why he hiding in the bollocks
Google "What is a marsupial"
flint sable
a marsupial is a mammal that lives in australia and occasionally in dumpsters in the united states
they vary from looking like jacked up deer to giant rats
austere sparrow
A marsupial is a miserable pile of secrets
steep crane
they vary from looking like jacked up deer to giant rats
And biologically plausible teddy bears.
quick ore
a marsupial is a mammal that lives in australia and occasionally in dumpsters in...
this is mexican, central american, and south american marsupial erasure
austere sparrow
To be fair, most of those are either glorified dormice or glorified rats
quick ore
what are you talking about
Didelphids are incredibly speciose
Didelphidae is literally the largest marsupial family
austere sparrow
Yes, and they're all either glorified dormice or glorified rats
steep crane
One of them swims.
austere sparrow
Multiple rats do too
steep crane
Otter rat with closeable pouch.
austere sparrow
Musk rats most notably
steep crane
Yapoks are awesome.
quick ore
Yapoks aren't the only semi aquatic didelphids
quick ore
there's also the lutrine opossum
quick ore
Whatever tho, not dodging the rat allegations
this is a silly hill to die on
austere sparrow
Lutrine opossum looks cool
austere sparrow
Rat tho
quick ore
for reference
austere sparrow
I'm glad the devs released a mongoose rat
quick ore
if you are calling this a rat then you're also going to call basically any small mammal a rat which is ridiculous
like you aren't going to call a mustelid a rat
they only vaguely share a similar bodyshape
austere sparrow
Depends on the Mustelid
steep tulip
I ate one of those possums for dinner
Do not recommend
steep tulip
Maybe
steep crane
Didelphodon, if added, I hope is based on a Lutrine possum or Yapok in behavior.
austere sparrow
God the lutrine opossum is weird. Looks like a rat and not like a rat depending on the picture
Close enough to rat for me tho imo
steep tulip
I think it mainly doesn't
It does feel more like a small carnivoran of some sort
quick ore
literally
austere sparrow
Fair enough
quick ore
like a small mustelid or feliform
steep tulip
I think the hands are its most rat trait
austere sparrow
I guess they have glorified dormice, glorified rats, and one wet mongoose
steep tulip
I think the hands are its most rat trait
But all opossums have those afaik
austere sparrow
😔 I dunno I was like. Hoping they had like, a porcupine/beaver/kangaroo/capybara equivalent, and was trying to bait you into showing me interesting rats marsupials
quick ore
I guess they have glorified dormice, glorified rats, and one wet mongoose
there's two species of lutrine opossum
and there's the yapok
austere sparrow
Lutrine Oppossum is cool
austere sparrow
and there's the yapok
Jesus christ
You know you could have mentioned the lesser demon from the sixth circle of hell sooner
steep tulip
Post a picture of the yapok
steep tulip
I know south american opossums are very diverse
Kinda sad I don't see them talked about often
steep tulip
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=a2d99f9dfb0d92e2&q=yapo...
Scary!
The link that is
quick ore
they hunt like this
steep tulip
Omg
austere sparrow
Not beating the demon allegations
Some fucking stilt-legged Burrowing owl in a hat pulls up with a thousand of these, what do you do
steep tulip
Kinda wish that during the gestation period, marsupials have a small ambient animation where an undeveloped baby pops out of the pouch
But at the same time it doesn't seem all that feasible due to skin differences
austere sparrow
Are we even getting any marsupials
steep tulip
Probably
austere sparrow
I remember none being on one of the oldest "want lists" and that had like. 200 animals or so
steep tulip
Like the recently extinct pack without thylacine would be a bit eh
austere sparrow
Oh, Thylacine, right
steep tulip
And cenozoic australia could be a dlc of its own, even if they only add the main 4
steep tulip
Yep
austere sparrow
Ngl I do hope they'll have more than 4 animals per DLC if they do end up doing some
steep tulip
I want one of those guys too
austere sparrow
Also Australia DLC better add at least one of the mihirungs
steep tulip
I also hope so but I have to keep expectations grounded
austere sparrow
If Gastornis is added elsewhere I think I will live with skipped Mihirun but I'd still rather have one
steep tulip
Like if each animal cost 12000 dollars to make, a dlc of 4 animals is 48 thousands
That's quite a lot and obviously you have to account for revenue and stuff
austere sparrow
Devs are too scared to make birds 😤
austere sparrow
Archaeopteryx? That's a dishonorary nonbird
Gets moved around cladistics too much, don't trust it
Broke my heart too much
outer moth
Devs are too scared to make birds 😤
Most of the dinosaurs are pretty birdlike, so it's not too hard
outer moth
Most of the dinosaurs are pretty birdlike, so it's not too hard
(Designwise)
quick ore
I think 4 is fine so long as like, alt species/genera aren't included
like for the recently extinct pack if they had a "slot" dedicated to the two Dinornis species alongside another moa like the Upland Moa but it didn't count as more than 1 in the slot since it is branched off of Dinornis if that makes sense
like, if Paraceratherium were a part of a 4 species dlc pack and not the base game and Juxia was just an extra
austere sparrow
I think 4 is fine so long as like, alt species/genera aren't included
like for t...
Fair point, would still feel a bit disappointed at just four
quick ore
I don't think I would if they do what I described
steep tulip
Gets moved around cladistics too much, don't trust it
Pretty sure archaeopteryx is what defines what a bird is or isn't
Like everything after archaeopteryx is a bird
quick ore
like it would be "4" but each slots gets their alt species and potential alt genera
steep tulip
Not matter where it's put at
austere sparrow
Since alts tend to have really similar vibes to each other so like. idk
quick ore
like Juxia for all of its similarities to Paraceratherium is quite distinct from it
austere sparrow
Yeah Juxia is an exception but like
quick ore
and gives representation to the early cenozoic
austere sparrow
Exceptions aren't common really 😔
I believe like half of our Animals have no alts
And if you only count alt genera those are definitely less than half and that's where the most distinctness tends to come from
quick ore
would be cool if perhaps we had paid dlc packs but then once a year we would get a new years update or something that took pre-existing species and used them as the basis for free species
like adding an extinct Thylacinid based off of the inevitable Thylacine
hollow furnace
we know there will be free animals as well as DLCs post EA
austere sparrow
That I wouldn't mind, tho those extinct Thylacinids are basically a guaranteed alt or two since Thylacine has known coloration
steep tulip
Curious what we will get in those free updates, cuz like stuff like dippy and cerato seems no brainers, but they could also put them in a morrison dlc with other animals and get quite few bucks off of it
austere sparrow
Morrison DLC with Dippy, Cerato... Maybe Campto... Maybe Baro...?
Guess you can also put in Gargoyleosaurus depending on how many species PK DLC will have (assuming the number is consistent)
austere sparrow
I would love Baro Dippy alt tbh
steep tulip
Don't care too much about it but some of the stuff we know about diplodocus is also thanks to baro
There's also ornitholestes
And I'm forgetting someone
austere sparrow
Crossing fingers for Dippy getting 4 skins, one with maximum spikes, one with minimum spikes, one of Kaatedocus (since that's where we got the spikes) and one of Barosaurus (since that one is somewhat iconic and pretty similar and also apparently fricc-massive)
Ornitholestes hm. Now that it lacks the horn its just a generic Coelurosaur
Stokesosaurus, for the "Complete the ZT2 roster please" folks? :P
steep tulip
Wasn't baro where we got the spikes from
austere sparrow
I thought we got them from Kaatedocus 🤔
steep tulip
Ornitholestes hm. Now that it lacks the horn its just a generic Coelurosaur
It is generic, so generic that goes back to be interesting
austere sparrow
I'd rather have Imperobator for the frosty vibes yes I know it's like, a foot
Or maybe Deinonychus even though its a good bit bigger and I believe less slender
late swallow
Like everything after archaeopteryx is a bird
The clade Avialae is defined specifically as "the largest clade containing Vultur gryphus, but not Dromaeosaurus albertensis and Saurornithoides mongoliensis" [Benito et al., 2022]
steep tulip
Oh nvm then
austere sparrow
Dimorphodon my babyloved
steep tulip
Still
Even if archaeopteryx moves around it still classifies as a bird
austere sparrow
And I'm forgetting someone
Also are you thinking of Supersaurus perchance
steep tulip
Nope not a sauropod
steep tulip
Eilenodon maybe
It's a big rhyncocephalian
mint creek
imo the appeal of Ornitholestes is that it would mean we have one formation that contains an animals for all major niches
steep tulip
Mainly known from skull material
austere sparrow
imo the appeal of Ornitholestes is that it would mean we have one formation that...
I mean at that point I might just rather go full ZT2 head and go for Stokesosaurus instead
late swallow
Still
Even if archaeopteryx moves around it still classifies as a bird
A. lithographica is traditionally restored within Paraves (the clade containing Avialae) but not Avialae itself. It lies within its own family, Archaeopterygidae.
steep tulip
I don't remember how complete it was
Would be a neat animal but I think it's just a hip? Or maybe I'm confusing it with something else
Oh really?
So it's not a bird technically speaking?
🐒
I feel kinda bad for not knowing this lol
late swallow
Some papers have restored it placed within Deinonychosauria, opposite Avialae [Hu et al., 2018; Wang et al., 2018; Hartman et al., 2019]
late swallow
Oh really?
So it's not a bird technically speaking?
It was only regarded as the "first bird" from 1861 [its description, just 2 years after C. Darwin wrote On the Origin of Species] until the early 21st century
steep tulip
🎻
late swallow
Misunderstood specimen, don't mind me
However, the London specimen [BMNH 37001](discovered in 1861 near Langenaltheim, Germany) was made the neotype in 2007
steep tulip
Wait hold on
You saying archaeopteryx was named after scrappy remains too?
late swallow
a single feather
late swallow
it was the 1800s there were no standards
steep tulip
I think already knew about this too, shit so stupid I forgot
late swallow
A. lithographica is held as a nom. cons. as the holotypical specimen - said feather - was coined such by Hermann von Meyer. The neotype, which was the second specimen to be found was described the same year by Sir Richard Owen, and initially given the name Archaeopteryx macrura
outer crater
imagine if all marsupials are banned from the game due to a baby pouch being hard to implement
left spear
Pouches have fallen, millions of marsupials must be banned.
inland sierra
A marsupial is a miserable pile of secrets
Im not a marsupial tf
sharp plinth
Google "What is a marsupial"
Ik ik
sharp sable
Im not a marsupial tf
Exactly, he's a human! (I think he is, maybe not)
steep crane
Tbf the devs have often said one thing was not coming but then changed their mind, anything could happen.
austere sparrow
Could, but to this day, the Thylacine is the only marsupial I can recall them talking about considering
steep crane
When did they say that? I mean I knew they proposed the recently extinct lineup but that was forever ago.
During the kickstarter.
left spear
When did they say that? I mean I knew they proposed the recently extinct lineup ...
Wdym RE DLC has been comfirmed for ages
steep crane
Wdym RE DLC has been comfirmed for ages
Um…when?
Was there a dev quote regarding it?
left spear
Was there a dev quote regarding it?
Mau has been saying that RE is almost guaranteed for like a year
Maybe not a year but defenetly months
steep crane
Any details about what would be in it? Aside from the Thylacine?
plush nacelle
Only moa and wild horse were mentioned
steep crane
Wild horse?
plush nacelle
Yes
plush nacelle
Thylacine (and dodo) is just educated guess based on how obvious its addition is
steep crane
Obviously. Those are the quintessential recently extinct animals.
low bridge
Moa are needed with few species
inner wedge
Could, but to this day, the Thylacine is the only marsupial I can recall them ta...
if they add thylacine they can absolutely add everything else
now inverts are another thing
i know they'd all be in terrariums or aquariums but i wish we'd get endoceras or a giant sea scorpion as full exhibits
austere sparrow
I said Thylacine because I could have sworn it appears on the "Recently Extinct DLC" image on kickstarter. If they never explicitly confirmed it, well. 💀
inner wedge
aside anything else the devs could have said about it
austere sparrow
New game theory, mau hates marsupials because the people in school called him Mausupial 🤔
low bridge
I think 4 is fine so long as like, alt species/genera aren't included
like for t...
Little Bush Moa, Heavy Footed Moa also
inner wedge
got TO'd lol
inner wedge
I said Thylacine because I could have sworn it appears on the "Recently Extinct ...
i wanted to say that, whether a holocene dlc comes out or not (been confirmed it will be developed soon after 1.0 anyways), not adding thylacine to it would be plain stupid
silver steeple
Yi, Compy, Quagga, and I believe Moa are all already confirmed
I don't see what good it would do us to get an Apato alt species
We already have A. ajax which is like the quintessential Apato species
The external differences between the different Apato species are pretty minimal
Even bronto and Apato aren't that different (that's most of the reason bronto got the neck "armor")
Oh and Elasmotherium is also already in the game
Dimetro is confirmed to come later as well
Same for simosuchus
silver steeple
Oh and Elasmotherium is also already in the game
As is carcharodontosaurus
feral cedar
This strikes me more as an extensive wishlist that hasn't been updated recently
silver steeple
Proof that PK discord users are allergic to playing the game and reading devlogs
feral cedar
I don't think that's the case
Pretty wild to have a wishlist for a game you don't even play
Maybe the wishlist was made a while ago
silver steeple
Pretty wild to have a wishlist for a game you don't even play
You would be surprised
feral cedar
FNAF fans with lore vs. PK fans with wishlists in a "Not even playing the game" competition
silver steeple
outer moth
FNAF fans with lore vs. PK fans with wishlists in a "Not even playing the game" ...
Hence why I don't make too many wishlists
(except for botany, you can never have too many plants)
silver steeple
I don't make wishlists because I know the devs will always cook with whatever we get
We are not the same
late swallow
can confirm that players don't read devlogs or roadmaps
outer moth
I don't make wishlists because I know the devs will always cook with whatever we...
Hence why I think we should, for example, wait for better Therizinosaur findings before adding it to the game
Like many players want
Devs cook with good findings
steep tulip
I mean we have good theris material
silver steeple
Nah that's goofy lol
silver steeple
Material doesn't matter (to a certain extent ofc)
steep tulip
I think we have more theri material that is not described, but devs having to wait for good material for such a requested species would be quite limiting
outer moth
True, but if it ends up not bein accurate, that would be pretty fucky
silver steeple
I've never heard anything credible on undescribed theri material
flint sable
True, but if it ends up not bein accurate, that would be pretty fucky
I mean
research do be like that though
silver steeple
And who cares if it's deemed inaccurate
Ugruu was added years after being invalidated
flint sable
research do be like that though
that could be true for basically anything ingame at the moment that doesnt have a near complete skeleton or hell even a complete one, and even then stuff can change very quickly
silver steeple
^
outer moth
Guess that’s true
silver steeple
They could describe Spino arms tomorrow as full fledged flippers and it would render PK inaccurate
flint sable
that could be true for basically anything ingame at the moment that doesnt have ...
since we arent at the pinnacle of dinosaur accuracy
and never will be
new things are always being discovered
silver steeple
Does that mean PK Spino is immediately bad? Fuck no
PK ain't going for full accuracy and never has been
flint sable
new things are always being discovered
I bet 30 years ago people thought Jurassic Park was the most accurate depiction of a Tyrannosaurus or Galimimus to date
and look at how far we have come in just 30 years
silver steeple
They use a lot of rigorous references sure
flint sable
and look at how far we have come in just 30 years
who knows what dinosaurs will look like in 30 years, hell, 15
silver steeple
But at the end of the day, rule of cool wins out
flint sable
who knows what dinosaurs will look like in 30 years, hell, 15
like remember that phase where literally everything had to have feathers and external soft tissue literally everywhere?
glad we passed through that
silver steeple
Even PK did that way back
Feathered Allo way back in the demo stuff
Old concept art is why we have wooly Pachyrhino
flint sable
~~glad we passed through that~~
for the most part with a few exceptions of certain people
outer moth
But at the end of the day, rule of cool wins out
So here’s to hoping PK Therizinosaurus gets a decent coat of fuzz when it gets released
silver steeple
My guess is that it'll get the Deino treatment
Couple feathered and a featherless skin
late swallow
Please... I don't want a peeled turkey...
late swallow
Feathered Allo way back in the demo stuff
I mean, it's not impossible
Picnofibres are thought to be the basal condition in archosauria
flint sable
Picnofibres are thought to be the basal condition in archosauria
I thought Picnofibres were basal to Ornithodira, not Archosauria as a whole
but either way in this case doesnt really matter
late swallow
I thought Picnofibres were basal to Ornithodira, not Archosauria as a whole
Ah, yeah, I'd read it described incorrectly
silver steeple
I mean, it's not *impossible*
It's not but there's also no conclusive evidence of any feathered carnosaurians
Also it's pycnofibers
Which is probably a defunct term anyway as it's practically consensus that pterosaurs "pycnofibers" are just feathers
(pycnofibers has only ever been used to name the fibers on pterosaurs btw)
outer moth
My guess is that it'll get the Deino treatment
I’m hoping it’s more evenly mixed this time
Naked neck, and fuzzy shoulders, back, and tail
hollow furnace
I mean, regardless, Allo is almost certainly going to be feathered in PK anyways
hollow furnace
ye
silver steeple
~~I mean, regardless, Allo is almost certainly going to be feathered in PK anywa...
Well ofc
outer moth
And even if it may not happen, I hope Yang ontogeny does include the transition from a slender skull to a more boxy n robust skull as it grows
Also I think Yang should get a more blue-ish color like in prior extinction
We don’t have too many good ingame theropods that actually rock that color
vivid field
mononykus
loud pelican
Well it’s about time someone asked for some terrarium primates. Could we get a Darwinius and a Purgatorius please?
feral cedar
Considering the current roster + the 100% confirmed future dinosaurs (allo, bary, compy, galli, ovi, stego, utah, yi) what do you guys reckon is missing?
left spear
2 therizinosaurs, 2 abelisaurs, Gigantoraptor, a Megaraptorid (Maip with a smaller alt?), Kentrosaurus, Udanoceratops/Leptoceratops...
And that's what i've came up with in 3 seconds
Only dinosaurs there's still like +20 something species "pending"
And that's not even considering birds
feral cedar
the problem with 2 therizinosaurs is that the best choices for a companion to theri itself are also prime material for DLCs lol
left spear
Eh i'm fine with Beipiao/Segno being dlcs
feral cedar
Beipiaosaurus could go great in a prehistoric China DLC or even just straight-up a Yixian DLC
left spear
I was talking in general not base game
left spear
Yeah base Game we're only getting theri
feral cedar
also does the / signify alts for udano and lepto or does it mean you want A leptoceratopsid and you find them to be equally good additions
left spear
Idially It would be Lepto with an Udano alt but i doubt It would work due to jaw shape and posture
feral cedar
me personally I think for dinosaurs we're missing herrera, a smol prosauropod (Eoraptor to keep herrera's formation perhaps), and depending on who you ask Silesaurus from a Triassic perspective
quick ore
Considering the current roster + the 100% confirmed future dinosaurs (allo, bary...
what do you mean exactly by "missing"?
feral cedar
Jurassic gets interesting
quick ore
Like necessary additions to the game?
feral cedar
yes
quick ore
ah I see
well firstly we are absolutely missing representatives from the paleozoic and cenozoic
feral cedar
Stegosaurus should be joined by some friends like kentro and a dacentrurine
quick ore
I also think more triassic species is a must
feral cedar
I meant in regards to dinosaurs specifically but I 100% agree lol
quick ore
oh you meant dinosaurs my bad
I think a nodosaur is needed alongside Ankylosaurus
like Polacanthus, Gastonia, Denversaurus, or Edmontonia
lot of options
feral cedar
My ideal nodosaur roster would probably be Edmontonia, Polacanthus, and Sauropelta
Edmontonia can get a Denversaurus alt for that delicious Hell Creek prestige
quick ore
roster?
feral cedar
...yeah?
quick ore
as in you think they should all get added?
feral cedar
yes
In fact I'd advocate for a maximized anylosaur roster to be made up of Ankylosaurus, Tarchia, Edmontonia, Polacanthus, Sauropelta, and Stegouros
not counting alts
quick ore
While all of those individually are good, I would hesitate to say that they should all be added as their inclusions don't exist in a vacuum
Like if they focus too much on adding all of those species to the game, entire groups will go unrepresented
feral cedar
Well with the exception of Stegouros all of these guys have a relatively decent degree of popularity and come from charismatic formations that are already in the game
feral cedar
Like if they focus too much on adding all of those species to the game, entire g...
Ah, but you see... your mistake is assuming that ankylosaurs are the ONLY group I want maximized
maximized stegosaurs? Stegosaurus, Kentrosaurus, Miragaia/Dacentrurus, Tuojiangosaurus, Gigantspinosaurus
tough marsh
Considering the current roster + the 100% confirmed future dinosaurs (allo, bary...
Aardonyx
quick ore
that doesn't feel like a realistic expectation
feral cedar
maximized ceratopsians? Triceratops, Pentaceratops, Chasmosaurus, Pachyrhinosaurus, Styracosaurus, Nasutoceratops for the ceratopsids. Protoceratops, Psittacosaurus, and Udanoceratops for the basal boys
quick ore
like, just how many dlc packs do you think the game will have? and how many species in each not counting alts?
feral cedar
that doesn't feel like a realistic expectation
a man can dream
quick ore
what even is maximized?
feral cedar
maximized in this case means covering all major 'branches'
feral cedar
like, just how many dlc packs do you think the game will have? and how many spec...
I see what you mean ngl
to be fair though I feel like individually all the animals I suggested have high chances of being in PK
wild relic
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BxoXw2mH4Et3hTFEGdI98GOfi36sHIn2bmnWGVUL...
Okay so I guess I have to clarify that this list is very old so a lot of the stuff that was confirmed years later is on there and yes I do read the dev logs, by alt species for Apato, I meant Brontosaurus as the alt species/genus, I'm just happy that some of them on the list were confirmed and just because I don't play the game, which I do want to btw, I don't have a good PC to play it on, I'd still want to see these animals because I just think they would or had make some nice additions to the game
low bridge
Let's hope for sa Toxodon with Mixotoxodon alt species
steep crane
I understand the Quagga being a symbol of extinction but like, there are so many other extinct horses out there that are unique.
Merychippus, Pliohippus, Eohippus.
Hipparion.
Hippidion.
Yet the devs choose a generic subspecies that isn’t even a true subspecies.
steep tulip
None of those are recently extinct tho
Like we talking about quagga coming in the recently extinct dlc
wild relic
Yeah
silver steeple
Like we talking about quagga coming in the recently extinct dlc
And it's getting an alt for extinct horses anyway lol
plush nacelle
Imagine, if PZ adds quagga colormorph to plains zebra
austere sparrow
Okay so I guess I have to clarify that this list is very old so a lot of the stu...
Yeah I was about to say, checked the dates on your and this list was from 2021 lol, kinda rude of people to assume you were a devlog skipper instead of just that the list was old
austere sparrow
Considering the current roster + the 100% confirmed future dinosaurs (allo, bary...
Limiting myself only to "no-brainer" inclusions (some of these are soft or hard confirmed but I probably don't know, I have a life outside of this game lol). Not my wishlist, just the animals I would really expect to show up, and be surprised if they didn't. (Assuming flight and diving get implemented, where applicable)
Theropods (traditional):
- Ceratosaurus
- Baryonyx
- Majungasaurus
- Carnotaurus
- Deinonychus
- "Troodon"
- Citipati (or replacement)
- Therizinosaurus (or replacement)
- Megaraptor (or replacement)
- Albertosaurus
- Allosaurus (confirmed)
- Guanlong
- Yutyrannus
- Avimimus/Caudipteryx/Other fowl-like Oviraptorosaur (devs might use animations to sell this vibe for Oviraptor)
Theropods (Avian):
- Hesperornis
- Gastornis
- Moa
- "A Terrorbird" (Kelenken, Titanis, Phorosracos or Devincia or whatever that one was called)
- Dodo bird
- Great Auk
- Argentavis
- Pelagornis
- Haast eagle
Sauropodomorphs:
- Herrerasaurus
- Amargasaurus
- Diplodocus
- Nigersaurus (or alternative)
- Island Dwarf Sauropod (wouldn't usually be here but people here seem to really love these)
- Shunosaurus (same as above)
Thyreophorans:
- Edmontonia
- At least one other Nodosaur
- Stegouros
- Kunbarrasaurus/Minmi
- Stegosaurus (confirmed)
- Kentrosaurus
- Miragaia OR Dacentrurus (or both)
- One Asian Stegosaur
Other Ornithischians:
- Silesaurus (or alternative) (due to seemingly high amount of requests, wouldn't put it here otherwise, as much as I love the nerds)
- Corythosaurus
- Tsintaosaurus
- Pachycephalosaurus (this one is basically confirmed)
Minis:
- Jakapil (if we find more bones in time)
- Mononykus (or alternative)
- Heterodontosaurus (or alternative)
- Confuciusornis (or alternative)
- Ichthyornis
- Anchiornis
Some animals (Camptosaurus, Hypsilophodon) just barely didn't make the cut, and while every individual exclusion would surprise me, the whole list getting in kinda also would
plain linden
Limiting myself only to "no-brainer" inclusions (some of these are soft or hard ...
HERRERASAURUS IN SAUROPODOMORPHS?!-
wait i gotta fact check this
austere sparrow
dabs
austere sparrow
It's not really a Sauropodomorph, just believed to be closer related to them than to Theropods, so I put it in with them
Assumed people wouldn't question it too hard xP
plain linden
It's not really a Sauropodomorph, just believed to be closer related to them tha...
oh damn
also for the thyreophorans,maybe gastonia cuz i think it´s one of the only social nodosaurs we know of
- would fit with utahraptor,which is confirmed
austere sparrow
Oh right, WWD25 didn't just make that up? neat
plain linden
Oh right, WWD25 didn't just make that up? neat
idk 🤷
wild relic
Oh right, WWD25 didn't just make that up? neat
Yeah no Utahraptor and Gastonia did live in the same formation that being the Cedar Mountain formation
wild relic
Limiting myself only to "no-brainer" inclusions (some of these are soft or hard ...
I definitely think some worthy Asian stegosaurs that could work imo would be Gigantspinosaurus, Tuojiangosaurus or Wuerhosaurus, personally going with Gigantspinosaurus because it stands out the most
austere sparrow
Yeah no Utahraptor and Gastonia did live in the same formation that being the Ce...
I meant the social behavior, I was aware they lived together lol xP
vivid field
Limiting myself only to "no-brainer" inclusions (some of these are soft or hard ...
Dacenturus with a Mira alt and YES PLEASE MONONYKUS
low bridge
I think that Titanotylopus alongside Aepycamelus and Stenomylus would be lovely to see in game
Camelops can be in La Brea basic animal pack
Change my mind
tough marsh
I definitely think some worthy Asian stegosaurs that could work imo would be Gig...
i personally quite enjoy Yingshanosaurus
wild relic
Fair
austere sparrow
Change my mind
Sure.
Camelops could be in the base game instead, adding to the prestige of the La Brea tar pits formation, while allowing for other formations to shine via it's generic outer form allowing for high alt potential.
It could be added as a free animal alongside a La Brea animal pack, to drum up hype for the pack, without depriving the pack of a species that many would consider a selling point.
slim flare
Considering the current roster + the 100% confirmed future dinosaurs (allo, bary...
Pachycephalosaurus
Carnotaurus
Ceratosaurus
Therizinosaurus
Armagasaurus
A Nodosaurid, probably Edmontonia
At the very least
austere sparrow
i personally quite enjoy Yingshanosaurus
Yingshanosaurus. Remember this one for being the only dubious animal included in my main childhood dinosaur book of choice. Fun!
Ngl would hope for it to get a Gigantspinosaurus alt tho
wild relic
I like Bashanosaurus, I know he isn't also from super good material but I like the little guy
austere sparrow
But I basically want an alt genus no matter what Asian Stegosaur we'll end up getting
wild relic
austere sparrow
What a hecking cutie
wild relic
Tiny stegosaur
late swallow
Smol
wild relic
Possibly the first if that's still a thing
Of it possibly being the earliest stegosaur
low bridge
Sure.
Camelops could be in the base game instead, adding to the prestige of the...
Yeah,true
quick ore
Limiting myself only to "no-brainer" inclusions (some of these are soft or hard ...
good choices but the last 3 birds feel unlikely atm since the devs don't know if aviaries will ever get added
also, Mononykus is absolutely large enough to be a regular exhibit animal
maybe if the alvarezsaur was Shuvuuia it would be a mini but Mononykus wasn't that small
austere sparrow
Yeah, flying species are included under the assumption that devs even get flying to work
But Mononykus is right at the size tresholds and caused size arguments before, so I hoped making it a mini meant people wouldn't yell at me lol
quick ore
also imo Pouakai >>>>> Haast's Eagle
if it ever comes to the game I hope it is called its indigenous name
slim flare
Limiting myself only to "no-brainer" inclusions (some of these are soft or hard ...
Do we really need Citipati and Oviraptor so urgently?
austere sparrow
Oh yeah, they definitely should
slim flare
if it ever comes to the game I hope it is called its indigenous name
Pffff
austere sparrow
Do we really need Citipati and Oviraptor so urgently?
Consider that I didn't include Oviraptor in the no-brainer list lol
hollow furnace
if it ever comes to the game I hope it is called its indigenous name
It'd probably be referred to by its scientific name
quick ore
true
slim flare
It’ll be called Hieraaetus
hollow furnace
And might get the native and common name referenced in Nigel voicelines
slim flare
Consider that I didn't include Oviraptor in the no-brainer list lol
????? It’s confirmed
quick ore
that's actually a good question for recently extinct species, like will the Quagga even be called a Quagga in game?
austere sparrow
????? It’s confirmed
I know lol. And Juxia is ingame already, and I wouldn't have put it in a "no-brainer inclusions" list either
austere sparrow
that's actually a good question for recently extinct species, like will the Quag...
We have Mammuthus and Coelodonta already we can just go check
quick ore
oh yeah
austere sparrow
In my defense as for why I have not already done that: My computer runs the game like ass
In my defense as to why I don't play the game to know that off the top of my head: See that last point + Fatigue
late swallow
We have Mammuthus and Coelodonta already we can just go check
They are in fact referred to by their commons in voice
austere sparrow
Also no mention of Tenontosaurus? Shame
Considering Tenontosaurus and Thescelosaurus didn't make it into JWE2 either, I don't think you can criticize me for not considering them no-brainer additions lol
feral cedar
Tenontosaurus deserves more recognition
austere sparrow
Won't deny that
slim flare
Considering Tenontosaurus and Thescelosaurus didn't make it into JWE2 either, I ...
Why not? Why is JWE2 your metric?
steep tulip
Tbh neither did plateo
slim flare
Nor protoceratops
austere sparrow
Hm. Let me list the current rosters no-brainer additions for comparison.
Theropods:
Tyrannosaurus
Coelophysis
Velociraptor
Dilophosaurus
Sauropodomorphs:
Plateosaurus
Giraffatitan (or alternative)
Apatosaurus
Ceratopsians:
Triceratops
Styracosaurus
Pachyrhinosaurus
Nasutoceratops
Other Ornithischians:
Ankylosaurus
Dryosaurus
Iguanodon
Parasaurolophus
steep tulip
You could argue its not a no brainer addition
But like there's 3 triassic dinosaurs people know, and plateo is one of them
slim flare
Or Scelidosaurus or Psittacosaurus
slim flare
Hm. Let me list the current rosters no-brainer additions for comparison.
Theropo...
I’m really fucking confused. What are we talking about?
austere sparrow
JWE2 is my metric because it's got the largest roster for any dinosaur zoo game that isn't mobile garbage. And it still falls short, notably.
A no-brainer addition is basically an animal whose non-inclusion surprises me more than not.
strange meadow
3 chinese stegosaurs and none of them is the actual famous one is always funny
slim flare
Hm. Let me list the current rosters no-brainer additions for comparison.
Theropo...
So what is this?
steep tulip
Tho I agree both tenonto and thescelo are less known than both plateo and proto overall
So ig I can't blame you either for that lol
austere sparrow
So what is this?
Every dinosaur from the current roster whose addition didn't surprise me
slim flare
So why Citipati?
Because Oviraptor is confirmed
The original prompt is every dinosaur that exists plus upcoming confirmed
And no Gigantoraptor smh
austere sparrow
So why Citipati?
Because Citipati is one of the animals that wears the name Oviraptor when it appears in media
slim flare
Or elephant bird, or Genyornis
late swallow
JWE2 is my metric because it's got the largest roster for any dinosaur zoo game ...
122! JWE3 launches with 82
low bridge
Or elephant bird, or Genyornis
Both
slim flare
122! JWE3 launches with 82
But how many of those are real species
late swallow
Haven't sat down and looked
austere sparrow
Or elephant bird, or Genyornis
I would be surprised at either of those showing up considering how bird averse the devs have been so far lol
feral cedar
Tho I agree both tenonto and thescelo are less known than both plateo and proto ...
personally I would’ve replaced Muttaburrasaurus and Leaellynasaura with Tenontosaurus and Thescelosaurus, respectively. And the aussies get used for an Australian dinosaur DLC
low bridge
I hope for Barinasuchus lol
slim flare
Well the giant elephant bird is likely the largest bird species ever so
late swallow
At least -3 from Stygi, Dracorex, and Crichtonsaurus
steep tulip
personally I would’ve replaced Muttaburrasaurus and Leaellynasaura with Tenontos...
If we got deino too sure
feral cedar
I hope for Barinasuchus lol
I would kill for Barinasuchus
austere sparrow
The original prompt is every dinosaur that exists plus upcoming confirmed
I included the animals whose confirmation I wasn't fully sold on. Which is mostly just Bary I believe.
steep tulip
As of now I like those 2 options more
strange meadow
But how many of those are real species
111
steep tulip
Like hell creek is cool and everything and I would love thescelo eventually, but it gives pk a bit more flavour
late swallow
I included the animals whose confirmation I wasn't fully sold on. Which is mostl...
I would love some more Spinosaurids, irritator, ichtyovenator, and Bary being my personal picks
late swallow
or 110 because i forget if crichtonsaurus was a thing or not
It's not
strange meadow
ok then 110
low bridge
I would kill for Barinasuchus
Also i would take something like Purrusaurus or Rhamphosuchus into game
Allhistoric Kingdom must be real
late swallow
ok then 110
N. d., the good stuff being referred to Crichtonpelta instead
strange meadow
lmfao
late swallow
Jwe3 will make up for the smaller roster by adding becklespinax
I'll be real half my reason for DX Edition is Conc
feral cedar
Also i would take something like Purrusaurus or Rhamphosuchus into game
Have you considered Stomatosuchus
late swallow
Conc top 3 carchars
austere sparrow
If you only count the JWE2 animals that feel like serious attempts at recreating the actual animal the number shoots down to, like, 20 at best
late swallow
(Other two being Carchar himself and Fat Joe)
austere sparrow
Who is fat joe
austere sparrow
Right
feral cedar
If you only count the JWE2 animals that feel like serious attempts at recreating...
fun fact
steep tulip
Both carcha and acro have 20% carcharodontosaur dna in them
late swallow
He's a big boi
strange meadow
i feel like acro needs a touchup for its model idk its been the same for like, 8 years?
feral cedar
If you only count the JWE2 animals that feel like serious attempts at recreating...
does Mamenchisaurus make up these 20
austere sparrow
Oh, I haven't checked its feet. If it has good feet it can be one of the twenty
Feeeeet
austere sparrow
Send dinosaur feet pics
slim flare
Fine, my big list:
A Troodontid
Deinonychus
Austroraptor
Gigantoraptor
A basal Oviraptorosaur
Therizinosaurus
Mononykus
Pelecanimimus
Ornitholestes
Alioramus or Nanotyrannus
Albertosaurus + Gorgosaurus
Yutyrannus
Guanlong
A Megaraptorid
Concavenator
Monolophosaurus
Carnotaurus
Ceratosaurus
A Noasaurid
Herrerasaurus
Diplodocus
Armagasaurus
Nigersaurus
Mamenchisaurus
Kentrosaurus
“Dacentrurus”
A Nodosaurid or two
Saurolophus or Maiasaura
Tenontosaurus
Thescelosaurus
Pachycephalosaurus
Prenocephale
strange meadow
pretty good
you can just choose any megaraptoran and have all its skins be different species because theyre all fragmentary lol
steep tulip
You legit have to assemble the magaraptor by putting all known remains from the group together lol
low bridge
Have you considered Stomatosuchus
Sarcosuchus over Stomatosuchus
steep tulip
Not saying I disagree, but let's keep it politics free from here 🤫
tidal estuary
Fine, my big list:
A Troodontid
Deinonychus
Austroraptor
Gigantoraptor
A basa...
where's yang gang
austere sparrow
Fine, my big list:
A Troodontid
Deinonychus
Austroraptor
Gigantoraptor
A basa...
Mostly pretty good picks! Not sure I understand the inclusion of some of these - Pelecanimimus, Ornitholestes, Monolophosaurus and 'a Noasaurid' seem kind of out there
tidal estuary
allo but better skull
feral cedar
fellas, please
austere sparrow
Allo but jacked and without the overhype
strange meadow
big ugly beast
tidal estuary
yang gang
austere sparrow
Ikr??? He's ugly and that's awesome
frosty heron
yang gang🔥
austere sparrow
If you want a clean looking Theropod use Torvosaurus
steep tulip
Allosaurus if it was chinese
slim flare
Theropods: slightly different skull
WE NEED IT
Ceratopsids: insanity
(((Yawn)))
austere sparrow
Allosaurus if it was chinese
High tier Cope, Allosaurus doesn't have a quarter of the Quasimodo chad energy
I mean it's also more robust than Allosaurus lol
outer moth
big ugly beast
Built like a bulldog
Basically the Metricanthosaur equivalent to a large Abelisaur
steep tulip
Theropods: slightly different skull
WE NEED IT
Ceratopsids: insanity
(((Yawn)))
Me lowkey
strange meadow
pentaceratops now
inland sierra
allo but better skull
We got Dino-phrenology before update 15. Crazy
steep tulip
Shaximiao could also get its own dlc
austere sparrow
Shaximiao is one of the main "DLC" fodder places imo
slim flare
lemme see what silly little guys there are
Nothing
frosty heron
true
austere sparrow
Guanlong might've also been from there?
frosty heron
oh shuno is shaximiao
hollow furnace
Guanlong might've also been from there?
Nope, Guanlong was from completely different part of China
frosty heron
Yang, mamenchi, shuno, pick a stegosaur or two out of a hat, maybe sinraptor or gasosaurus, easy dlc
austere sparrow
Small weird Sauropod Big weird Sauropod Weird Theropod Medium-small Ornithopod = Well rounded DLC right there
slim flare
Gigantspinosaurus, Tuojiangosaurus and Shunosaurus are the most notable
austere sparrow
If PK has more than five species per DLC? Easy, second Stegosaur or Omeisaurus
austere sparrow
Nope, Guanlong was from completely different part of China
Ah, dang
slim flare
Nope, Guanlong was from completely different part of China
Idk, China is pretty small, probably doesn’t matter
strange meadow
Yang, mamenchi, shuno, pick a stegosaur or two out of a hat, maybe sinraptor or ...
no way anybody would choose gasosaurus over sinraptor
steep tulip
They could also turn it into an jurassic asia dlc
quick ore
Wouldn't it be more likely that a China themed dlc would pull from more than just mesozoic species?
slim flare
Yang, mamenchi, shuno, pick a stegosaur or two out of a hat, maybe sinraptor or ...
Sinraptor isn’t from Shax
frosty heron
Eh did I mess up
steep tulip
Like gualong and monolopho are the main thing people want from that formation
And limusaurus as elaphro alt
slim flare
Also Gasosaurus
austere sparrow
Wouldn't it be more likely that a China themed dlc would pull from more than jus...
I certainly wouldn't mind a full on China themed Expansion. Depends on how many animals the devs want to sell us at once, really
frosty heron
s. hepingensis is upper shaximiao
steep tulip
Also Gasosaurus
Gassy lowkey in more than 1 way
austere sparrow
Recently Extinct DLC was 8 so maybe that's gonna be the number I guess. Should probably not expect more than that tho
frosty heron
although it is the "alternative" species that might be its own genus so :p
austere sparrow
Yeah ngl I'd rather have some Cretaceous and Cenozoic stuff instead of D-lister Theropods like Gasosaurus 😔
slim flare
s. hepingensis is upper shaximiao
Sinraptor hepingensis, formerly referred to as Yangchuanosaurus, is a second species referred to this genus. However, the identity of this species within Sinraptor is questioned by other paleontologists, and the describers of Alpkarakush included this species within Yangchuanosaurus based on their phylogenetic analysis in 2024.
frosty heron
WAIT xuanhanosaurus is shaximiao thats my ride or die now gasosaurus is going in the pits
hollow furnace
the hell is a xuanhanosaurus
feral cedar
Gasosaurus as a “D-lister” is so funny and yet oddly fitting
steep tulip
Complaining about yang and then suggesting gasosaurus
feral cedar
the hell is a xuanhanosaurus
a weird theropod that might be a metriacanthosaurid
austere sparrow
I know Gasosaurus from like, one old dinosaur book, and it was a sticker book that had a designated theropod section and had to fill a DIN A4 with them
frosty heron
Complaining about yang and then suggesting gasosaurus
I suggested gaso as like a half filler, yang is cool in my books :p
slim flare
Cool obscure guy
A vast majority of obscure species deserve to be obscure because they’re fragmentary and not unique.
steep tulip
Like gasosaurus
late swallow
Also Gasosaurus
Funny ass name
steep tulip
I suggested gaso as like a half filler, yang is cool in my books :p
Wait nvm I misread no one said that
💀 💀
Still
magic burrow
BEHOLD
Not including species that were in the demo
- Deinonychus
- Alpkarakush
- Duonychus
- Jakapil
- Cryolophosaurus
- Pteranodon
- Quetzalcoatlus
- Tropeognathus
- Mosasaurus
- Styxosaurus
- Leedsichthys
- Jeholopterus
- Stegouros
- Maip
- Pachycephalosaurus
- Stupendemys
- Kelenken
- Deinosuchus
- Dimetrodon
- Inostravencia
- Dunkleosteus
- Anamolocaris
- Jaekelopterus
- Titanaboa
- Varanus Priscus
- Procoptodon
- Austroraptor
- Andrewsarchus
feral cedar
austere sparrow
Not a bad list
I assume they're leaving the mammal wishlisting to the actual mammal fans lol
austere sparrow
**Varanus priscus*
Also outing yourself as someone who doesn't know how to spell Joekolopterus :^)
slim flare
You’re outing yourself as someone who doesn’t know how to spell Titanoboa :^)
austere sparrow
You’re outing yourself as someone who doesn’t know how to spell Titanoboa :^)
I know how to spell Tetanusboar :^)
magic burrow
https://tenor.com/view/kill-that-guy-spiderman-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-...
What are you, some kind of Plebb?
magic burrow
Is Procoptodon your entire mammal roster
Well
slim flare
The second part of a species is always lowercase
magic burrow
If you really must know
feral cedar
What are you, some kind of Plebb?
go back to the JWE Discord, infant specimen of Ailuropoda melanoleuca
slim flare
Tyrannosaurus rex, Homo sapiens, Varanus priscus
feral cedar
magic burrow
The only other mammals I would want were either in the game already (Paraceratherium) or in the demo
slim flare
Insanity
feral cedar
Satan, Satan
slim flare
Yes, yes
feral cedar
it's normal for people to not want mammals
magic burrow
go back to the JWE Discord, infant specimen of *Ailuropoda melanoleuca*
No I like this game
Oh wait one more mammal
steep tulip
Yall know how to spell kimmeridgebrachypteraeschnidium tho?
austere sparrow
Calm down people, be nice to the newcomer, he's not used to us yet 😔
feral cedar
Me personally I want more mammals... WAY more mammals, but I understand that not everyone feels the same way
slim flare
I don’t
magic burrow
Calm down people, be nice to the newcomer, he's not used to us yet 😔
What
austere sparrow
Yall know how to spell kimmeridgebrachypteraeschnidium tho?
Obviously I know how to spell kimpossibleridgewalletbrachiosauruspteranodonschnipsy
steep tulip
Goaty
feral cedar
Remember, the only justifiable criticism we can give is when someone wants scrappy obscurosaurs instead of better-known relatives because they deem the latter "overrated"
feral cedar
ask for as many teeth taxa and vertebra as you want but don't call something overrated 
austere sparrow
Penguins are overrated btw 
steep tulip
🐧
feral cedar
Rebeccas are overrated
steep tulip
Say that again
austere sparrow
Penguins are overrated btw
feral cedar
Penguins are overrated btw
austere sparrow
Oh you think you're so special for being a fat Cormorant who can't fly
Speaking of, Copepteryx for PK? :^)
feral cedar
Inkayacu for PK
austere sparrow
Inkayacu would be neat
feral cedar
yes
austere sparrow
Uh I mean. Stinky and overrated because penguin
austere sparrow
Plus I do want at least one giant penguins so I can create a Mountains of Madness themed exhibit 🤔
Penguin DLC but with other birds allowed would go p hard. Hesperornis, Copepteryx, Great Auk, and well. Penguins. I guess.
feral cedar
Spheniscus megarhamphus, Pachydyptes, Inkayacu, Anthropornis, and the non-penguin Copepteryx for good measure
magic burrow
You nerds
austere sparrow
I'd kinda like Waimanu but I believe it's too smoll 😔
austere sparrow
Nerds? In a Dinosaur game discord? Perish the thought
steep tulip
I was out the womb already knowing what parapropalaehoplophorus was, dont mess with me
outer moth
I'd kinda like Waimanu but I believe it's too smoll 😔
Small is cool tho
austere sparrow
I mean it is but like. Mini Exhibit material I guess
feral cedar
You fool, I can SPELL Parapropalaehoplophorus
frosty heron
bro can spell prhrphplrphrlphorus no way
feral cedar
I’d pay $60 for a DLC containing all 4 of the Russian doll named glyptodonts
Hoplophorus, Palaehoplophorus, Propalaehoplophorus, and Parapropalaehoplophorus
inner wedge
the dino i want the most is the optimizationsaurus
cause this game runs like ass
truth to be told
feral cedar
Maybe it’s your computer?
inner wedge
it also is
austere sparrow
optimizationsaurus has been lumped into getabettergraphicscardosaurus
inner wedge
but i cant afford a better pc right now
feral cedar
then it’s not really PK’s fault is it
inner wedge
optimizationsaurus has been lumped into getabettergraphicscardosaurus
every other game i play is at least 15 years old at best why should i upgrade
feral cedar
🗿
inner wedge
<:moyai_clown:1165127457888800842>
you wouldn't understand
feral cedar
I have a laptop that takes a bit to load L4D2
I have PK but can’t play it
I don’t complain because I know technically it’s on me
austere sparrow
My Computer is about a decade old too, need to upgrade it myself
inner wedge
alright i admit it
i ragebaited
when i get the new pc tho i won't go easy on pk's performance
feral cedar
i ragebaited
flint sable
Hoplophorus, Palaehoplophorus, Propalaehoplophorus, and Parapropalaehoplophorus
the fact all of these are real makes me sick
austere sparrow
Sick with joy, I hope?
steep tulip
Wait until we get pseudoparapropalaehoplophorus
austere sparrow
Sounds like lumping bait
feral cedar
Paralipseudoparapropalaehoplophorus
Etymology: "Another Pseudoparapropalaehoplophorus"
low bridge
Me personally I want more mammals... WAY more mammals, but I understand that not...
So which ones
I would take something from Miocene/Oligocene and maybe Paleocene
austere sparrow
More mammal gang
Do feel like just about everyone who regularly posts here wants more mammals tho
late swallow
I don't really care one way or the other on Mammals, but certain mammals make the list if we do get more
austere sparrow
Do you care about paleozoics?
late swallow
A little bit more than cenozoics, but not quite as much as Mesozoics