Community Species Suggestions

[glass snow]

no

[left spear]

There shall be no such cringe in this game

[steep tulip]

Dracorex is probably similar to pachy even if it is its own thing

[short rover]

Dracorex? A valid genus? Not as wild as you may think!

[steep tulip]

Washed from every direction

[left spear]

Idc, just by the name It shouldn't make It in

[short rover]

Tune in tomorrow

[toxic oriole]

... I would replace it with Nanotyrannus, but things change

You never know

[left spear]

Honestly i wish they do a pop culture DLC and exclude Draco just to shit on It even more

[toxic oriole]

(Then again no point with Nanotyrannus if you can just get a juvie t-rex or tarbo in the game already)

[steep tulip]

Lumping in hell creek doesn't exist
Every fossil its own species

[flint sable]

noted

[glass snow]

I don’t want nano Alio would be so much better

Why have Depalmas mess of Dakota when you have deinon

titanosaurus just use saltasaurus

draco just do pachy with a stygi alt.

[left spear]

You can have some actually interesting animals like Meraxes and Crash coupled with meme ones like Thanos or Gremlim, but again no fucking Draco.

[glass snow]

that would be a fun dlc

[toxic oriole]

Well I don't know if there are any other dubious species

[steep tulip]

Thanos the walking living single vertebrae

[left spear]

Better than draco

[flint sable]

reminds me of a really old pack idea I had

[left spear]

My hate for Draco is unmatched

[flint sable]

-PK Shitpost Pack-
Vaquita
Cotylorhyncus
Sivatherium
Nanotyrannus
Allosaurus anax
"Dire Wolf"
Collosal Hairy Elephant
Nanuqsaurus

not serious at all

[left spear]

If i were locked in a room with Pol Pot, Mussolini and dracorex, and i had a gun and two bullets, i would shoot dracorex twice.

[toxic oriole]

Okay fine, replace Dracorex with Becklespinax or something, I'm out of ideas

[steep tulip]

That's dubious

That's for sure

[left spear]

Eh Beckle is straight Up dubious

Probably just a weird Altispinax

[toxic oriole]

That would go into the "Nomen Dubium DLC"

[glass snow]

Vaquita may be on the table for RE or aquatic pack 💀

there are like 8 of them left

[steep tulip]

That's so sad

Basically extinct

[short rover]

Depressing

[left spear]

Yeah Vaquitas are functionally extinct

Like that Giant chinese tortoise

[toxic oriole]

Welp, no breeding program can save that one, it'll be bottlenecked like the cheetah or something

[glass snow]

depending on when they sadly die out they could be on the table yeah also the giant chinese softshell 2

which the last known female is dead I think

and theres like 3 of them

[flint sable]

definitely bottlenecked

[left spear]

It wouldn't even be a bottleneck, straight Up death via incest, and not enough time to diversify

[flint sable]

but iirc, vaquitas actually went under a similar super bottleneck effect at some point in their evolutionary history

probably not as severe as this though

[flint sable]

that reminds me

didnt cheetahs go under a bottleneck of like

4 individuals

total

[late swallow]

Wouldn't be opposed to seeing Crichtonpelta

[flint sable]

at one point

[late swallow]

Thought it was like a few hundred

[glass snow]

The vaquita are inbred reslient but they aren’t surviving this

[flint sable]

not in recent history but long ago

not exactly sure how long ago

[left spear]

Imposible

They would be extinct

For mammals i think the death by incest threshold is around 50 individuals

[glass snow]

Fun Fact: after the last captive female Yangtze giant softshell turtle died they ended up finding another one but she died for unknown reasons in the wild in 2023

[left spear]

Birds and reptiles is 30 i think

[glass snow]

like right after she was disovered

[left spear]

"fun"

[glass snow]

the last captive male is essentially sterile

and can’t mate on his own

[flint sable]

probably depends on the species though right?

[glass snow]

the 1-2 others are males

in the wild

[flint sable]

id imagine its probably about 50 for most species

[left spear]

Well yes, but It ain't fucking 4 lmao

[glass snow]

though there whereabouts are secret and it is funny

as we keep finding more of them but

[flint sable]

I dont think the actual number was 4 now that I think about it

[glass snow]

they all end up being sterile or die not even from human intervention

it is like they are cursed

[left spear]

There probably was a time where there were less than a thousend, which would still create a bottleneck for a shit ton of time

[flint sable]

idk where I even heard 4 lol

maybe 400? idk

[glass snow]

vaquita are reslient to inbreeding in one study

but they aren’t surviving 8.

[left spear]

No ammount of resilence can help against Cousin relations at max

If It were second Cousins maybe

[glass snow]

8 indivduals. 50 is the general thing for a species surviving. But some species can survive somehow with as little as eight

[steep tulip]

The problem would be catching all 8 without them dying of stress or something

Good luck with that

[glass snow]

If they are all unrelated

[left spear]

But carnal? Nah i'm sorry but Vaquitas aren't gonna make it

[glass snow]

case in point the Lord Howes Stick Insect

but the vaquita are not insects.

[flint sable]

I imagine that realistically the absolute best vaquitas could do would be a breif recovery to about 30 individuals. before then their population hard crashes and they die out for good

[left spear]

Insects are much more resiliente to incest

[flint sable]

and thats in the absolute best case scenario

[flint sable]

real lol

[left spear]

Probably

[glass snow]

they are more reslient than most mammals and have survived stuff similar like cheetahs. But I doubt they could get out of this.

[left spear]

I'm so Happy we atleast got Kakapos

[glass snow]

also they have long gestation for their size

[flint sable]

the entire captive population descends from like 4 invidivuals and theres like 10,000+ of them in captivity

hope they get reintroduced to Lore Howe Island soon

the island was made rat free a few years back

[left spear]

Also bugs have more offspring, more offspring means more new possible mutations, more Mutations means more new dna

Cetaceans aren't known for their great number of calves

[toxic oriole]

Early Cretaceous North America:
Deinonychus, Sauroposeidon, Microvenator, Sinodelphys (Early Marsupial), Steropodon, Gobiconodon

Decided to go half dinosaur and half mammal for this one, I could change it depending on what you guys think

[glass snow]

Insect gestation and quick generations means more animals with bad genes will die so basically it cancels itself out

they still have some problems but less so than any mammal

and they unlike mammals will recover eventually

[median relic]

unironically though, instead of vaquita, baiji

[left spear]

Yes insects (but most arthorpod in general) are very well equiped for low population envioroments

Well assuming there isn't much predation

[glass snow]

or they aren’t like certain insects which are very picky or produce less offspring which is rare but there are some species

but even then insect generations are shorter which means most can select themselves out of inbreeding eventually essentially

[late swallow]

12000ya

[left spear]

Like Kakapos (which birds are more resilient to incest that mammals) are still struggling with the bottleneck of 50 individuals even if stabilized

[glass snow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_purging

[glass snow]

same with spix macaws

[late swallow]

Can't access the study because paywall

[left spear]

Also the Cheetah bottleneck is a bit overplayed, yes is still annoying and a issue but the situation is quite stabilized and not that bad

[glass snow]

It is also because before we learned we could artifically inseminate them they would breed with their sisters and brothers

[late swallow]

Man fuck paywalls

[median relic]

how long does an animal need to have been extinct to be considered for the game in your opinion
also, how extinct? extinct outright, functionally extinct?

[glass snow]

extinct really

[late swallow]

They do well despite that genetic bottleneck

[glass snow]

like extinct outright

[left spear]

From what we know from RE extinct and let's say +50 years

[median relic]

then baiji unfortunately qualifies

[toxic oriole]

So how can you even add more genetic diversity to the Cheetah?

[late swallow]

Average heterozygosity of 0.013(O'Brien, et al., Science 221, 459-462, 1983)

[late swallow]

Probably some shit like CRISPR

[left spear]

Waiting

Species diversify by themselves with enough time and sufficent original dna (really just enough to leave them fucked instead of dead)

[glass snow]

Allow genetic purging to happen essentially

Like if they have enough time and are sucessful over a long time and are not forcfully bred with ones with negative traits(many domestic animals) they can recover.

anyways we can move this to sci chat

[flint sable]

extinct extinct

also, it would need to have actual value coming to the game

and ideally, physically distinct enough to not easily mistake it for a living species

like for example, the Warrah looks like a regular canid, but in reality it was very distinct in both lineage and how it looked

whereas something like the bluebuck is literally just a normal antelope

or the Caucasian Wisent (just as an example) is essentially just the modern wisent with very minimal differences

those are the categories for me anwyway

[glass snow]

I mean we have the cave bear

[slim flare]

🙄

[glass snow]

blue bucks would be useful for the quaggas

[slim flare]

The wild horse and quagga are confirmed

[flint sable]

indeed

[glass snow]

as a coexhibt species

[flint sable]

as I just said

there are multiple categories

even if they fail in one, they work great for others

for example, the Dodo likely wouldnt have any cohabitation, but would be great since it is an icon and looks so unique

so as long as it does good in a few of the categories, im down for it

and ideally something that does great in all of them

[slim flare]

It has to be interesting and/or popular

[flint sable]

yep

[short rover]

Which usually go hand in hand

[feral cedar]

moa, dodo, thylacine are the golden trio

[slim flare]

Aurochs

[feral cedar]

the aurochs is still a bit confusing for me

[slim flare]

Moas aren’t technically even recently extinct

[feral cedar]

how will the game handle the different skins for the Bos genus

[slim flare]

“The aurochs”

What do you mean

[feral cedar]

Well

people want extinct bison right

[slim flare]

Genera don’t matter

The nursery hasn’t sorted by genera in months

What’s your issue?

[feral cedar]

They kinda do for the game, generally speaking with slots

for instance

[slim flare]

No

Columbian mammoth is on the post EA ideas list

Genera simply don’t matter

[silver steeple]

Yeah

All species are separate

[feral cedar]

Would Columbian mammoths get 3 skins then

[slim flare]

Idk maybe

Would be cool, could do the dwarf Channel Island population too

[feral cedar]

it could easily just be a 4th skin for Mammuthus, it has the popularity

[slim flare]

Nope

Because there’s a lot of ways to do the fur

Plus again Channel Island population

Then a more naked and hairy skin for the mainland population

[feral cedar]

isn’t there a pygmy mammoth species

Mammuthus exilis

[slim flare]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_mammoth

Smh

[feral cedar]

OH

[slim flare]

So yes 3 skins

And bison and aurochs could each easily get three skins / alts too

[feral cedar]

Imagine if PK had done Mammuthus with three skins from the get-go

primigenius/columbi/exilis

[slim flare]

Boring…

[silver steeple]

Nah

Current concept is cooler

[feral cedar]

How is that boring

[slim flare]

Less diversity for each

[median relic]

I like ones that are like living species though

[silver steeple]

Current concept gets to show 3 different populations of primigenius

[slim flare]

I like when people try to say x species is too recent to add to Prehistoric Kingdom, ignoring or ignorant to the fact the Great Pyramids had finished construction for 500 years when woolly mammoth went extinct.

Although the dinosaurs in PK are almost in a diverse enough state, man mammals are still completely lacking.

And everything else just doesn’t even exist

[median relic]

I like pleistocene stuff as much as the next guy but man we need a break

I don't remember, is paracer/juxia the only mammal in game that isn't pleistocene?

[silver steeple]

Sinotherium

[median relic]

oh

right

[slim flare]

I disagree. We need MORE Pleistocene

[median relic]

also yeah we already have so many rhinos/rhino relatives lol 🥀 but not a single xenarthran

[median relic]

oh no no I want more pleistocene too but I just mean there are other non pleistocene things

[feral cedar]

to be fair “everything else” is generally not a land-based animal

[median relic]

if they continue adding pleistocene stuff in the near future it needs to be more unique

[slim flare]

Ground sloth
Glyptodontines
Toxodon
Macrauchenia
Diprotodon
Procoptodon
Thylacoleo
Megalania
Dire wolf
Bison

[feral cedar]

except for non-mammal synapsids and other reptiles

[slim flare]

Mastodon + Notiomastodon

[median relic]

why only glyptodontines

[slim flare]

Wdym “only”

[median relic]

wait nvm

I forgot that's technically the clade name

lol

[slim flare]

Yeah

[median relic]

so used to just calling them glyptodonts

[slim flare]

Doedicurus is obviously best girl, would also like Glyptodon too

[median relic]

all of the genera that had clubs + glyptodon

glyptodon, doedicurus, panochthus, neosclerocalyptus (though you don't need all of that I guess)

neo is just such a silly little beast

[slim flare]

Megatherium best girl, Nothrotheriops would be great, last would probably be Mylodon

[median relic]

no eremotherium 😔

[slim flare]

Megalonyx would alternatively be cool

[slim flare]

AD is very against Eremotherium alt for Megatherium

[median relic]

tbh there's so much you could do for sloths

[steep tulip]

So far all remaining mammals seems to be from different groups than ingame ones
So that's cool, and I doubt we got them wrong

[median relic]

mega, eremo, mylodon, nothrotheriops, thalassocnus, lestodon, megalonyx, and megalocnus are all valid picks

[feral cedar]

ANOTHER NOTHROTHERIOPS ENJOYER

[median relic]

I LOVE JOSHUA TREEEESS GRAHHHHH

[feral cedar]

all of these are cool but I don’t think ALL of these should be in

[median relic]

oh no definitely not

but those are the genera I would pick from

[feral cedar]

I’d argue the following ground sloth roster

[median relic]

you gotta at least have one big guy (mega/eremo), thalassocnus, and a smaller land based guy imo

[slim flare]

Looks at the Ceratopsians…

[feral cedar]

Megatherium and Nothrotheriops to cover megatheriids and nothrotheriids; one from NA, one from SA. Megatherium is big, Nothrotheriops is “small”. They alone already cover a lot of ground

Mylodon to cover that weird branch of grazing sloths from South America

Thalassocnus as a semi-aquatic critter

We could also get a terrarium animal with Hapalops, which is thought to have been able to climb

Megatherium could have a Deinocheirus situation with a single skin that portrays different types of integument

Mylodon could come with a Paramylodon alt for La Brea enjoyers

[slim flare]

No real need

They definitely weren’t naked

[feral cedar]

ah

But yeah

Megatherium
Nothrotheriops
Mylodon + Paramylodon
Thalassocnus
Hapalops (terrarium)

[slim flare]

Are Mylodon and Paramylodon actually that similar?

[feral cedar]

Idk actually

They’re both mylodonts

[flint sable]

id switch Hapalops for Neocnus and Thalassocnus for Megalocnus personally, but otherwise a great list

just to get some representation for the Carribean Slothes

[slim flare]

Why the fuck would you replace Thalassocnus

[flint sable]

wait no not Thalloscnus mb

[feral cedar]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dino/images/6/6c/Reconstruction_of_Mylodon_darwini_size.png/revision/latest?cb=20240519071535

[flint sable]

I meant Nothro

sorry

Thallosocnus the goat

[slim flare]

Nothrotheriops? 😡

[flint sable]

ya

[feral cedar]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fossil/images/3/3f/Reconstruction_of_Paramylodon_harlani_size.png/revision/latest?cb=20241130191554

[flint sable]

megalocnus better in my opinion

[slim flare]

Megalocnus is cool tho

Could replace Hapa

[flint sable]

neocnus replace hapa

since was small enough to be terrarium

[feral cedar]

Mylodon and Paramylodon by Ugueto

[flint sable]

and semi arboreal

[feral cedar]

Ehh… close enough, good alt potential

I mean Hapalops is also small enough to be terrarium and probably climbed so

[flint sable]

true

id pick neocnus over it personally since I think its a bit more well known, and representation from the carribean slothes

since there were actually a surprising ammount of ground slothes from the carribean

all the way from early oligocene to holocene

[feral cedar]

lol

[flint sable]

?

oh lol

[feral cedar]

Will Johnny Depp be in this new spinoff?

[flint sable]

FR

I always wondered why that page was named like that bro

its funny though

I wonder if it is intentional or not

[feral cedar]

hmm

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fossil/images/0/04/Reconstruction_of_Megalocnus_rodens.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/985?cb=20241012174712

[steep tulip]

Me goat

[feral cedar]

Megalocnus strikes me as the smallest possible ground sloth that isn’t a terrarium critter

[flint sable]

id agree

[feral cedar]

In other words, no need to replace Nothrotheriops

[flint sable]

I like it more than nothro in the small sloth category

[steep tulip]

There's also lestodon

Could be a cool option

[feral cedar]

Nothro is larger than Megalocnus

it’s IRL Sid the Sloth

[steep tulip]

I want at least 4 sloth

[plush nacelle]

Megalonyx is must tbh

[trail gyro]

Hear me out guys

Great choice for a semi aquatic Paleozoic terrarium

Viatkogorgon

[plush nacelle]

One of the first described extinct mammal genera

[late swallow]

we really do need a ground sloth

[silver steeple]

What's wrong with ground sloths

They're iconic

[late swallow]

what?

i want to see one

[vivid field]

react 💚 for wuerhosaurus
react ❌ for no wuerhosaurus

[austere sparrow]

Definitely want Sinosauropteryx too; but it should be hella easy to mod in, so I would be fine if it didn't get an official version

Ahh Wuerhosaurus. Definitely split on that one. I think I'd rather have Hesperosaurus (assuming they get in as a Stegosaurus alt) or Huayangosaurus (assuming you want it for the elongate-ish front limbs), just has such similar vibes to Stego, and us not knowing the plate shape would hurt me in the autism

Mamenchisaurus is unironically an animal I would enjoy having. It has so many species. The devs could go utterly nuts with inclusions and vibes and skins, there

It's probably a wastebasket taxon rn but still

No scientific backing for that, it just has massive wastebasket vibes

[slim flare]

No Stegosaurus alts

[austere sparrow]

Damn. Are they all the same species too?

Is it stenops or ungulatus

Imo Hesperosaurus deserves inclusion for being a crap-easy alt and for having slightly different vibes than Stego

But also I guess like

[plain linden]

imma be real there´s 3 stego species

[austere sparrow]

Nobody will riot if it's not ingame

[plain linden]

they could take advantage on that

[austere sparrow]

Wait there's a third?

Is armatus valid again?

[flint sable]

all stenops ingame

ungulatus isnt coming

[plain linden]

S.Stenops

S.Ungulatus

S.Sulcatus

[austere sparrow]

...Ngl I have never heard of sulcatus

[glass snow]

S. stenops is really the only one which really matters

really

[plain linden]

the third one is under debate whether or not it´s a different species or a species of stegosaurus

i think

[glass snow]

genus*

[austere sparrow]

No ungulatus tho... :(

[flint sable]

agreed

no

just stenops

[austere sparrow]

Literally unplayable, game refunded, unsubscribed from YouTube channel

[glass snow]

hespero is the only one I could see being an alt

because it has something to the table I guess

[plain linden]

Why? it´s the largest of the three?

[late swallow]

W. homheni would be best relagated to an alt of S. stenops/S. ungulata, as W. homheni is considered by many to be not diagnostic enough to erect an entire genus. it is regarded by those as S. homheni instead

[glass snow]

I said it is the only one which matters

[flint sable]

98% of depictions in media are stenops

its like comparing T. rex to T. mcraeensis

[plain linden]

yh but like

[glass snow]

most media is stenops

[austere sparrow]

Theropod and Ceratopsian enthusiasts can't tell the "subtle nuances" between Stegosaurus depictions apart

[plain linden]

Ungulatus would be sick for the lourinha formation (i think it was found there)

[quick ore]

Do y'all think that a comparatively small species of sauropod (smaller than Camara) is a necessary inclusion or does neoteny defeat the purpose of that?

[late swallow]

is it S. ungulatus or S. armatus that is long declared n.d.

[quick ore]

Like would Magyarosaurus be cool?

[late swallow]

don't remember off top my head

[vivid field]

:(

[quick ore]

or Amargasaurus?

I do think Amarga is a good inclusion even aside from its size

it's very iconic imo

[plain linden]

armatus

[austere sparrow]

I mean I definitely would want one of the island dwarf Sauropods. And multiple of the often-requested Sauropods (Nigersaurus, Shunosaurus, Amargasaurus, Saltasaurus) miiight be smaller than Camarasaurus?

[plain linden]

Pretty sure ungulatus is still valid

[late swallow]

and like, as much as i want wue, there's no actual proof that the plates were like that, they're thought to have been artefacts of taphonomy

[glass snow]

mamenchi too would be cool

[late swallow]

i knew it was one of them

thanks zilla

[plain linden]

np

[flint sable]

ungulatus and stenops are the only two that are basically 100% valid

the others are complicated

[glass snow]

Amarga, Dippy, Mamenchi, Niger, Salta, Shuno, and Magy are species I want

[austere sparrow]

Unless I remember wrong ungulatus and stenops had quite different leg proportions. Which would give them different vibes ingame. 😔

[late swallow]

homheni is a species, whether that's Wuerhosaurus or Stegosaurus is in the air

[austere sparrow]

Specifically the front hind limb ratio

Magyarosaurus for PK to confuse Isle players

"Why is it naked"

[late swallow]

yeah, they were different, but not as much as we initially depicted (See: Sophie)

[austere sparrow]

"Why isn't it poisonous"

[late swallow]

i really don't like the naked Duck

[austere sparrow]

"Why is it so slow"

[austere sparrow]

Sophie was a subadult

Wouldn't have quite had adult features yet

[late swallow]

true, however she was getting there, and she allows us to see a better idea of a single specimen than that Frankenstein's monster that was the restoration prior

[austere sparrow]

Naked Duck probably makes more sense than ox Pachyrhino; but that doesn't prevent me from liking it less

Fair enough, I guess 😔

[quick ore]

what is naked duck? the baby Deinocheirus?

[late swallow]

by naked duck i speak on Cheirus' scrote looking skin

[austere sparrow]

The scaly Deinocheirus skin, I assume(d)

[quick ore]

ohhhh ok

[austere sparrow]

I do love how beautifully ugly the Deinocheirus young are

I haven't actually released any yet so I dunno if they're actually like. Care-dependent, the way their skin kinda suggests

[quick ore]

wait this just made me think about how cute the baby Stego's are going to be

they'll blow the baby stego's from JWE3 out of the water in cuteness, mark my words

[austere sparrow]

Probably not the highest bar, the JP franchise had a pretty underwhelming track record when it comes to baby designs

TLW Stego baby looks like they tried to make a muppet version of Spike from the land before time, and that's probably among the better ones

[feral cedar]

the "people" who play TI wouldn't touch PK with a 10 foot pole lol

[quick ore]

I have nostalgia for that baby admittedly but it hasn't aged well

[feral cedar]

they want their dino carnage sim and mindless rampages, a zoo game does not appeal to these... creatures

[flint sable]

wait till U17

[austere sparrow]

...God it's weird to think about how PK will probably be the first time a lot of accurate baby dinosaur designs enter pop culture, on account of the sheer. Breath of how much dinosaur media abhors leaving the cretaceous

[slim flare]

Until the combat update…

[feral cedar]

I hope combat sucks

like

I hope there's no spectacle to it

[austere sparrow]

Hate the concept of a combat update but I guess 12 year olds and people who might as well be 12 years old are a potential audience too

[feral cedar]

to minimize its appeal for brainrotty YT culture

'CARCHARODONTOSAURUS VS. ACROCANTHOSAURUS VS. SPINOSAURUS VS. TYRANNOSAURUS VS. TARBOSAURUS BATTLE ROYALE!!!"

this shit CANNOT happen

[austere sparrow]

Don't think we can stop it, even if combat does suck ass 😅

[slim flare]

Coward

[austere sparrow]

Personally more worried about people coming here to complain about their favorite Theropod needing a buff

[quick ore]

PK fans after interacting with TI fans for 5 minutes:

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-omni-man-animals-i-will-burn-this-planet-down-gif-21709941

[slim flare]

Why? I can’t wait to create ecosystems

[toxic oriole]

What is TI?

[austere sparrow]

The Isle

[slim flare]

Unfortunately only 3 can be recreated right now, and none are perfect

[austere sparrow]

My favorite parts of an ecosystem are the zoo feeders littering it 😔

[feral cedar]

The Isle fans when Stegosaurus don't run around killing everything in their path (it's the strongest playable)

[slim flare]

You won’t need that in PK

Animals can forage off paleobotany

[austere sparrow]

The Isle fans when instead of hiding in puddles and noscoping passerby morsels the crocs just sit around and grow fat off of their feeders all day

(They forgot to add enrichment items)

[austere sparrow]

Oh dang. That's neat

Isle devs when Prehistoric Kingdom tells you to give your dinosaurs something to do or else they will literally die of boredom:

[feral cedar]

I'm gonna get very briefly off topic but I find it so depressingly funny how TI devs want the game to be a nature simulator and yet don't seem to realize 90% of their fanbase just want to fight as dinosaurs

[silver steeple]

Not gonna happen

We already know that stego is getting 4 skins and no alts

[feral cedar]

^

I'm excited for stego

[silver steeple]

Same

[austere sparrow]

Probably less depressing than them thinking they can replicate the vibes of an ecosystem while leaning entirely on players behaving in character for a given niche while giving them no incentive to do so

[feral cedar]

it and allo will do wonders to help Morrison parks

[silver steeple]

All the skins are bangers

[feral cedar]

we already have apato, brachi, bronto, camara, dryo, and torvo

[austere sparrow]

I am looking forward to Stego 😔 I want more Thyreophorans finally. A whole Thyreophoran wave ideally.

[toxic oriole]

Scelidosaurus, Stegosaurus, Ankylosaurus

[feral cedar]

too few

[toxic oriole]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Scelidosaurus is an ancestor of the two

AN

[feral cedar]

Proper rep for stegosaurs would probably be something akin to the JWE roster but a little bit better

[austere sparrow]

Kentrosaurus will probably get in sooner or later. Hopefully with an alt species that lived in a formation with other material.

[feral cedar]

Stegosaurus as our flagship, Miragaia/Dacentrurus as the weirdo long necked ones, Kentrosaurus is iconic so that dude is a great inclusion already

[austere sparrow]

We were hating on JWE but the Stegosaur roster wasn't even that bad, honestly. Should've exchanged Chungkingosaurus for Miragaia or Dacentrurus, but like, otherwise?

[feral cedar]

I'd actually say to swap out Chungkingosaurus for Tuojiangosaurus

[austere sparrow]

Gigantspinosaurus is. Underwhelming really I guess. But it has those whacky wings, and that awesomebro-bait name

...Not a Theropod so it didn't work out for it, but still

[feral cedar]

Gigantspinosaurus is actually pretty cool if we use the real animal

[silver steeple]

JWE steg roster was bloated tbh

Would have been more than fine with just stego, kentro, and toujia

[feral cedar]

Pretty small all things considered, but the namesake spines give it something pretty dang cool

[feral cedar]

Frontier for some reason assumed the Ankylosauria, Stegosauria, and Ceratopsidae all needed to have an equal amount of members lol

[austere sparrow]

Huayangosaurus is cute and the basality of it makes it feel slightly different or well, would make it feel different, in a game where dinosaur designs are based even slightly on reality and not just whatever the artist who modelled them felt like throwing on the wall. Like, it's so boxy and cute

[flint sable]

Scelidio and baby anky as absolutely adorable already

so

[feral cedar]

It's obvious for Deluxe that they just take five animals out of the base game and 'restrict' them, so if we take that into consideration then the ankylosaurians, stegosaurians, and ceratopsids all have five members each

[austere sparrow]

Isn't Toujia maybe the senior to Chungking's Junior synonym? Would be funny if we tried to avoind the Chung and it snuck in anyway

[toxic oriole]

I want to know, are the plates of any Stegosaurid there upon hatching or do they grow overtime?

[austere sparrow]

Also tho ngl not including either Miragaia or Dacentrurus (or a relative I suppose) was a massive brainfart moment on JWEs part

[feral cedar]

trike/styraco/toro/penta/chasmo
stego/kentro/gigantspino/chungking/huayango
anky/pola/saurop/nodo/crichton

[austere sparrow]

Both, I believe? Exist, but start very small and grow over time? might be wrong there tho

[feral cedar]

Frontier's mistake is assuming these three clades are comparable (they're not)

Stegosauria didn't exist for THAT long and while five stegosaurs is a good number, three of them being Asian... is not

[austere sparrow]

Frontier should've gone based and added five Centrosaurines, Chasmosaurines, "Nodosaurs" and "Ankylosaurs" each tbh :V

Hey, not Stegosaurs' fault that a good chunk of them come from one particularly good formation

[feral cedar]

I find it insane how Frontier didn't include Pachyrhinosaurus until JWE 2

[austere sparrow]

They did get it in the sequel at least!

Yeah

In the Deluxe DLC tho 😂

[silver steeple]

Woulda been in the first if the movies hadn't switched up last minute lol

[feral cedar]

Crichtonsaurus was a bad idea imo

[silver steeple]

Eh its fine imo

[feral cedar]

I'm glad they did, their sino is an atrocious pachyrhino design

[silver steeple]

You kinda have to reference the guy who started the whole series

[silver steeple]

Well it did originally have a boss

But its terrible as a ceratopsid either way

[feral cedar]

Crichtonsaurus being our second club-tail instead of Euoplocephalus, Pinacosaurus, Saichania, or Tarchia is kinda crazy

[feral cedar]

I get that, but I don't think a whole ass species named for him was the best route

[silver steeple]

Its not that crazy when you wanna ref the person who started the franchise lol

I mean

What other route is there

(none)

[feral cedar]

Maybe a character named something something Crichton

[silver steeple]

Nah

Way easier (and more legal) to just use the dinosaur

[feral cedar]

I guess so...

[silver steeple]

For stuff like that you'd need to contact the estate and get legal nonsense going

Don't gotta do that for a dino

[austere sparrow]

Hey, Crichtonsaurus has a lot of qualities that, sure, other Asian Ankylosaurs feature better while being more complete and living in more interesting formations, but, consider;

uh

They made it look cute

[steep tulip]

There's 3 but they probably all stenops

[late swallow]

🤓

[waxen grail]

For Troodontids, since dubious genera such as Ugrunaaluk and eventually Saurophaganax are/will be in the game, having Latenivenatrix be a larger alt would be nice. It lets you have the usual sized Troodontids but also an alt that is larger.

[late swallow]

did you mean Crichtonpelta

[austere sparrow]

Crichtonpelta and Crichtonsaurus are distinct dubious piles of rubble

Crichtonsaurus is the one that got into JWE

[late swallow]

oh ik its in jwe, but Srichtonsaurus is attributed towards the pile of dust that is pelta

[steep tulip]

Also kinda glad we didn't get hesperosaurus
Like there's nothing all that notable about it

I prefer 4 stego skins

[austere sparrow]

It Crichtonpelta wanted to be the topic of conversation, it should've been the name the Frontier intern pulled out of the hat

[austere sparrow]

It doesn't need to be notable to be a good alt species. Don't think anything about P.bugtiense is all that notable either. What it has going for it is slightly different anatomy that can help accentuate a skin design

[late swallow]

also

Crichton skin

ew

[austere sparrow]

And well, it's also smaller than Stegosaurus when fully grown, thus having a slightly different niche

[steep tulip]

Ig
But same location as stego without the fame of sauro or bronto

Just kind of there

[silver steeple]

*shield

[austere sparrow]

I mean. That's probably still a little bit more than "the same animal a third time but with different colors"

[silver steeple]

Pelta translates to shield, from the greek "pelte"

[austere sparrow]

If the devs decide to add Crichtonpelta (somehow) they should make it susceptible to heatstroke

[steep tulip]

I know the distinction of what make a genera is pretty arbitrary, but I think alt genera comes with the expectations that they are pretty different compared to their sister species
Hespero isn't def 1:1 to stego, but as I said nothing really stands out

[austere sparrow]

Different plate shape is the main one

Rounded plates. Pretty dope

[vivid field]

SHANTUNGOSAURUS

[austere sparrow]

Not sure I see the point in Shant with Edmonto already in?

Would've been an okay alt genus tho

[steep tulip]

Fax

Me saying this when I want torosaurus in the game

But idc

That's my agenda

[austere sparrow]

Torosaurus has unique vibes tbf

...Ceratopsians are really good at having unique vibes despite being basically identical

[plush nacelle]

Bugtiense is like african forest elephant while transouralicum is like african bush elephant.

[steep tulip]

They could go crazy with its frill pattern just saying

[austere sparrow]

Me when we don't get Einiosaurus and Stellasaurus and Centrosaurus and Sinoceratops as Styracosaurus alt genera

[steep tulip]

Either centro or sino

[plush nacelle]

One paraceratherium is smaller and living in forests, while second is really big and living in plains

[austere sparrow]

Damn, didn't know we had the person who decides the Planet Zoo DLC animals in here

I see what you mean tho

Me when I'm roasting Ceratopsian fans versus me when I realize I want basically every single Ceratopsian ingame anyway

I was a Ceratopsian fan all along; the call was coming from inside the house 😭

[steep tulip]

I want more ceratopsians eventually too

But first

I need at least dacentrurus or kentro ingame idc!

[plush nacelle]

People really will ask for every single north american ceratopsian just to later say 3 asian stegos is too much

[austere sparrow]

I am torn between wanting every single stupid glubshittoceratopsian with an intact frill ingame and becoming an Anchiceratops/Sierraceratops maximalist for lonk necc

[toxic oriole]

Like Eotriceratops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[steep tulip]

I think it's a silhouette problem
Because it is easier to see the differences in ceratopsids than in stegosaurs that have a messier silhouette that's harder on the eye

[austere sparrow]

Meanwhile me, the gremlin who wants basically every North American Ceratopsian and ALSO every sufficiently complete Asian Stegosaur

[steep tulip]

So when people think about stegosaurs they all see the same barrel shaped thing with spikes on the back

[toxic oriole]

Meanwhile, a non-existent game that literally has EVERY SINGLE DINOSAUR EVER FOUND, and constantly adds more when more get named and discovered, plus every single pterosaur, marine reptile, let alone everything

[austere sparrow]

Why yes I was annoyed at Carcharodontosaurus being released for feeling like Acrocanthosaurus two, how could you tell

[steep tulip]

While ceratopsids are all frill/horns swaps and you already know where going to look for it

Something like that

[plush nacelle]

PK unlike JWE rig sharing would do these animals justice for people to properly see differences

[steep tulip]

They are pretty different tbh

[steep tulip]

True

[austere sparrow]

One is flatter and has a different head.

[toxic oriole]

New dinosaur discovered, the stanleysaurus
A theropod dinosaur that is entirely flat, in every single angle possible

[austere sparrow]

That would be good enough for Rebbachisaurs but I do not care for Megatheropods 😔

[austere sparrow]

.

Accurate reconstruction of Stanleysaurus

[toxic oriole]

And the best part is that the fossil is 100% complete

Everything is intact

[austere sparrow]

...Wait holy shit Stanleysaurus is featured on ingame-items

Stanleysaurus confirmed

Stupid fucking sub-flatlander fake dinosaur

[late swallow]

Shut

[nocturne tartan]

has anyone talked about Sinomacrops

[left spear]

Meh i'll rather have Jeho

[hollow furnace]

or just Anurognathus

[left spear]

I mean i Guess they could be alts

[left spear]

Nah a big anurognathid would be cool

[hollow furnace]

I think you are overestimating what "large" means in the context of anurognathids lol

[left spear]

Well yes but you get it

Big difference

(and yes prehistoric wildlife but still)

Jeho is the largest of the family and may have been partially Piscivorous

It would be an excellent DLC choice

Assuming anurog is in the flyer expansion

[late swallow]

Skeet shooting when

[left spear]

I mean if they were still alive i would see them being common game

[hollow furnace]

I mean, they are all very firmly in the terrarium size range regardless, it's a question of if you want a 40cm wingspan terrarium animal or a 70 cm wingspan terrarium animal, not between a full exhibit or terrarium animal

[left spear]

Yes but still, i think they could still be different enough, give each a different feather vibe and very distinct skins and done

[hollow furnace]

The idea they might be piscivorous is also more or less based on vibes, not any actual evidence

[left spear]

For Anuro go the ultra puffy route and make Jeho more sleek and bat or olw like

[left spear]

Male it for the funnies

Wouldn't be the first for the vibes thing in the game

[late swallow]

I know JWE2 has them as insectivores - any substance there?

[left spear]

Nope

They have their own feeder

Butterflies

[late swallow]

Yes

That's literally what I just said

[left spear]

Wha

The 2 Hours of sleep are catching Up to me fr fr

Idk why i read It as piscivore

Sowy

[austere sparrow]

I love Anurognathids and would definitely welcome PK adding like all of them to have different skin options, but they're p interchangeable for the most part lol 😔

[left spear]

Well really it's the only thing they would be equiped to hunt besides the ocasional micro lizard/mammal

[austere sparrow]

I assume Anurognathus prolly gets in, cuz like. Main group member and its digsite already has other Terrarium stuff

[left spear]

I mean it's the go to terrarium pterosaur

[austere sparrow]

I am glad the Halloween decoration foreshadows it, I would be unbearable about Anurognathids if "one of them I guess" wasn't soft confirmed

[left spear]

Only other competition would be eudimorphodon and ig if you are feeling funky venetoraptor

[austere sparrow]

Love those frogmouthed flying babies

[left spear]

They are kidna inevitable tbh, regardless of if true flyers make It in

[late swallow]

I am inevitable

[austere sparrow]

Pterodactylus seems like a potential terrarium Pterosaur, not sure about it. I believe if you go by wingspan for it it qualifies for "similar to Psittacosaurus in size"?

[late swallow]

Which species

[austere sparrow]

I mean shit take your pick

...Wait didn't all but two Pterodactylus species get split out of it

[left spear]

There's really only antiquus

Other 2 are dubious

[austere sparrow]

Well damn sounds like antiquus is your species then

[late swallow]

I

[austere sparrow]

...Also I sure hope Pterosaur fame rules are less strict than mammal fame rules cuz like. Aside from Pteranodon and Quetz, what Pterosaurs are even famous?

[late swallow]

Was thinking about pteranodon

[austere sparrow]

Nyctosaurus (plus cheeky Barbari alt?) for Prehistoric Park (and planet, ignore how stupid fragmentary it is?)

Tapejara?

Uh Tropeognathus?

Anurognathus and friends kinda share a spot...?

[late swallow]

Tape cool, Caer cooler

[austere sparrow]

Oh, Dimorphodon

Caer who

Tupandactylus, also

Damn Tupandactylus would have some great alt species/sexual dimorphism potential (depending on what navigans turns out to be)

[left spear]

Fame is a pretty silly mechanic, no matter how popular Carno is Argentino is still gonna make more numbers, really It should be Awe rather than Fame, they you could have things like Hatz, Tupan and others having a good rating

[late swallow]

Cearadactylus atrox

[left spear]

Ceara would be a 2 star at it's very best tbh

[austere sparrow]

Tapejara is literally represented by Tupa in most cases, but it is actually distinct enough I could see it as a distinct slot...? Or at least an alt genus...?

Ceara who

[left spear]

And even then it's a stretch

[left spear]

JP novel pterosaurs

[austere sparrow]

Literally in nothing but Jurassic Park (novel only) and the Land before time

[left spear]

That's why i said It being equivalent to a 2 star is a Big strech

[austere sparrow]

Does the actual animal have anything going for it or is this just like. "Absolute glubshitto animal but I let Crichton pick it"

[left spear]

The JP novel ones aren't even Cearadactylus, they are generic crestless pterosaurs, they just happened to fit nicely with Ceara size wise

[austere sparrow]

Lmao

[left spear]

Like iirc in the novel they are called Pterodactyls

[austere sparrow]

Rhamphorhynchus, that's a famous Pterosaur, too.

[left spear]

Let me get my book

[late swallow]

everything is called pterodactyl

[austere sparrow]

And Pterodaustro hasn't really been in much media but it's pretty popular in paleobooks

Sure hope something like Morganopterus (might be writing that wrong) or the monkeydactyl (whose name I forgot) make it in

The latter would be funky for being good at climbing while Pterosaur

...Was it Wukongopterus?

[left spear]

Holy shit even worse

[austere sparrow]

Well anyway. Add the La Brea Teratorn and or Argentavis, Pelagornis, the Haast Eagle, some Terrarium birds and Yi and you've got yourself a whole ass flying expansion right there.

[austere sparrow]

Oh my god oof ouch

[left spear]

My man straight Up creating a new genus

[austere sparrow]

That just hurts

RIP Cerealdactylus

[late swallow]

Velocirraptor

[left spear]

Spanish

[late swallow]

Othnelia is also dubious now, iirc

[left spear]

Yes

Deserved, so stupid It strangled itself with a vine

[austere sparrow]

I believe it wasn't at the time; excusable

Nanosaurus is a better name but apparently they're getting rid of that one, now, too

[left spear]

Talking about the Cenozoic i present to you my Weekly Barinasuchus posting.

It cool

I want it

Now

[late swallow]

Whoa, what?

[austere sparrow]

Sebeccids cool

[left spear]

Ah i see the Talk converted you

Good

[late swallow]

Also Marsh naming two genera after himself [same dinosaur even] very funny

[austere sparrow]

I believe Barinasuchus was very fragmentary, so ideally I'd want it as the alt genus of the animal contributing most to its reconstructions

[late swallow]

And cope naming that same animal after himself too

[left spear]

We only have the head, we know there's more remains but due to property stuff with a road it's on pause right now, have It be an alt to Sebbecus.

[austere sparrow]

Copepteryx and Marshosaurus were a thing too, I believe

We can have this instead of quadrupedal Rauisuchid yes?

Since Postosuchus is bidepal and that's the Rauisuchid most people know

[late swallow]

But Othnelia, Othnielosaurus, and Drinker all got reclassed to Nanosaurus

[left spear]

There's a niche for Both, that being said if i had to choose i would pick Barina due to it's overall more unique setting and It sharing formation with a lot of other cool animals like astrapotherium

Also Seb is this, pretty decent

[austere sparrow]

Lots of other cool animals that have no shot in heck of getting included, yeah 😔

[austere sparrow]

Not too bad!

Assumed it was worse

Very short

[late swallow]

10/10 holotype, no notes

[plush nacelle]

Jeholopterus formation also goes hard and will have soon formation in game

[left spear]

Eh tbf i think Barina has a decent chance to make It in in one of the later dlcs, there's a lot of people calling for It and would be a nice center piece for a miocene SA DLC.

[austere sparrow]

But Solnhofen Limestone would be an all mini formation and that's kinda pleasing to me conceptually 🤔

[late swallow]

snout

[left spear]

Nooooooo not drinker!

[austere sparrow]

A Miocene SA DLC existing is hella optimistic ngl but hopefully ur right

[plush nacelle]

So is jeholopterus formation lul

[left spear]

Well miocene in particular yes, but Cenozoic SA is very likely

[plush nacelle]

Tiaojishan has yi, anchiornis, jeholopterus, kunpengopterus, darwinopterus, tianyulong, volaticotherium

Goldmine on pair with solnhofen

[austere sparrow]

Kunpengopterus was the "monkeydactyl" wasn't it? 😔

[plush nacelle]

Yes

[austere sparrow]

The one with graspy hands

Damn. Got it wrong earlier

[left spear]

Titanoboa, Barinasuchus, Purussaurus, Astrapotherium, Notiomastodon, Toxodon, Carbo/Stupendemys, Psilopterus, Devincencia, Thylacosmilus, lots of cool shit there.

[austere sparrow]

Yeah that's fair that sounds good

"Jeholopterus and Anurognathus both" gets my vote

[toxic oriole]

Since Tapejarid Pterosaurs are now confirmed to be herbivorous since evidence exists and a new study had been published, they could be an interesting way to add flying herbivores if some dont already exist

[austere sparrow]

Five Tapejarids pls

[toxic oriole]

Funny really, so far Tapejarid Pterosaurs are the only pterosaur group so far that is known to be herbivorous

There COULD be others out there, but no proof had been found

[austere sparrow]

...Okay realistically Tupandactylus and Tapejara itself are probably rep for the group enough but like. Dang. They have real funky crests and are even more alt-interchangeable than Ceratopsians are

[waxen grail]

Parksosaurus would be a nice addition since it comes from the Horseshoe Canyon Formation (Already in game) and is a nice Neornithiscian.
It would be able to be a Cretaceous equivalent for Dryosaurus, since you get a bonus for same time period, and would be nice for people trying to recreate the ecosystem of the Horseshoe Canyon Formation.

[toxic oriole]

Ah yes, thescelosaurids

[waxen grail]

I’m not sure if it’s a Thescelosaurid or not

[toxic oriole]

I don't get whats so special about them

[waxen grail]

Is it even a clade or just things related to Thescelosaurus?

[austere sparrow]

Thescelosaurs have a really freaky head compared to the more cutesy Dryosaurus. Really ratty vibes. Would appreciate the heck out of them

They're also more elongate

[waxen grail]

Dromaeosaurus would be a good typical small Dromaeosaur since it’s the namesake for the clade and Velociraptor is Velociraptor (Jaw shape is different).
They are slightly larger than Velociraptor and might be able to have Deinonychus as an alt.
Dromaeosaurus’ formation is already in game, the Dinosaur Park Formation, and it would give us a small North American small Dromaeosaur.

[toxic oriole]

So how many of us are wanting Giraffatitan as a alt for Brachiosaurus
I know I know, they wont give any alts to existing species, but from what I've heard they are giving an exception to ONE of those guys, just not sure which

That information may be outdated, I don't know

[waxen grail]

Daspletosaurus would be a good option for another Tyrannosaurine in game. There could be three separate species in game, though there are only two that are confirmed to be valid at the moment in real life.
It lived alongside Gorgosaurus in the Dinosaur Park Formation, a formation that is already in game and a Dinosaur I’ve suggested alongside Albertosaurus before.
Daspletosaurus is also rather well known.

[toxic oriole]

And realistically speaking, Giraffatitan at one point used to be part of Brachiosaurus before it became its own thing

[waxen grail]

I want Lusotitan too, though there currently aren’t any Jurassic species at all from Africa in game so Giraffititan would begin to fix that if they added it.

They also mention in the loading screen that popular portrayals of Brachiosaurus are based on Giraffititan

[toxic oriole]

So Giraffatitan realistically would be the best alt species for Brachiosaurus, but then again they don't plan on adding more alt species to existing animals already in the game

[waxen grail]

That is sad

[toxic oriole]

Though if Giraffatitan became its own thing, there could be another option for Lusotitan

Like, not a alt genus to Brachiosaurus

[waxen grail]

That would be good

[toxic oriole]

It is true that pop culture has popularized Giraffatitans look as Brachiosaurus, thats for sure

[waxen grail]

If they ever add Quetzalcoatlus I want a Cryodrakon alt, but that’s basically the same as me wanting Atrociraptor. They’re both Canadian and from formations that are in game, but they’re also fragmentary.

If they add aquatics, Fluvionectes would be a great Plesiosaurid for the game since it’s a freshwater Elasmosaurid from the Dinosaur Park Formation, which is already in game.

[winter willow]

So me with the Australovenator. I’d also love the Minmi, but at this point, that’s fairly well known. And also a town I used to live near.

[low bridge]

Since we expect Deinosuchus

In U.18

[austere sparrow]

Did you mean Gryposuchus?

Hm

Don't feel wild about any of these options

[toxic oriole]

The only mammal in this list is Josephoartigasia
And despite popular belief, it isnt a giant capybara

[lean hound]

I would vote for purru but this seems to be a world where deino is already a base game animal

[austere sparrow]

Josepho Artigas Ia is a rodent. Big rodent but. Hm.
Weird to put it on the list but no Anthracotheres, Oreodonts, legged sirens, notoungulates, the list goes on...

Dinosaur fan ass cenozoic roster suggestions

[late swallow]

Stupendemys is just a funny name to me

[idle hearth]

Josephoartigasia, Purussaurus & Stupendemys for U18 (along with Baryonyx, Deinosuchus & hopefully Ambulocetus)

[late swallow]

Is that an extinct hell capybara

[toxic oriole]

Despite popular belief, Josephoartigasia is NOT a giant capybara

[late swallow]

Closer to Castor?

[silver steeple]

Closest to like Pacanas or something like that iirc

Still a semi-aquatic rodent, but all endemic to SA

[slim flare]

Giant beaver…

[austere sparrow]

Pacarana

Pacana is pekans

Pacaranas are not Pacas like eating Pacanas

I would love a Josephstalinbeaver in a zoo game, especially with Pacarana inspired coloration, but aside from Pacarana and maybe Capybara colored coats I'm not sure what the devs would even use for a third skin

Swampy Rodents just kinda enjoy being the exact same shade of brown for some reason

[inner wedge]

time to get to work fellas

[austere sparrow]

Could I get an unblurred version? My eyesight is really bad 😝

[glass snow]

It is all blurry

but I think someone unblurred it a little with a zoomed version

[austere sparrow]

Make sure someone downloads the image; Discord deletes pictures like this after a while

[late swallow]

Uh?

[late swallow]

Source?

[left spear]

Oh trust me that has already been done more than a dozen times

[austere sparrow]

Wdym source do you not read update notes

Also kinda silly of the devs to post these blurred considering how prone they've historically been to dumping planned/considered species anyway 😔

[inner wedge]

it's just to drum hype

[austere sparrow]

Posting the list unblurred would drum up hype too and be more useful to people trying to track the history or priorities of the game 😔

[inner wedge]

does sakurai leak his wishlist to all his nintoddlers fan to see?

same principle

[austere sparrow]

Does Sakurai post his wishlist blurred onto Wiichat?

[inner wedge]

speculating brings more hype than simply knowing what's up

[inner wedge]

he posts it on 4chan

[austere sparrow]

Damn.

And here I was, pegging him as a redditor

[inner wedge]

pegging?

[austere sparrow]

Did I use the wrong word or something

[inner wedge]

nvm

[late swallow]

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-oh-hell-no-oh-hell-naw-oh-hell-nah-gif-27373171

shit's so blurry we can't even see anything anymore 😭

[hollow furnace]

That’s the point

[feral cedar]

I mean at that point why even post it

[austere sparrow]

Yeah, I guess somebody tag me once the decoders come up with a theoretical translation picture

Shoutout to AI confirming Mammoths tho

Twenty gallons of water well spent

[hollow furnace]

Because the old ea ideas list is outdated

And because funny

[inner wedge]

rip to the two squares hidden by "post ea ideas"

[austere sparrow]

Low effort posting 😔

[late swallow]

Because it works

It's serving the exact purpose intended

[low bridge]

I order Smilodon Gracilis for Prehistoric Kingdom

Little Kitty

Eremotherium is the greatest among ground sloths after Megatherium

[short rover]

Why

[slim flare]

Because ez

[low bridge]

Rude rly

😒

[digital pendant]

If you know how he is why engage or even ask

[austere sparrow]

Smilodon gracilis retroactively added alt, because:

• Smilodon deserves four alts
• That's the one who lived with Terror birds
• Unique vibes (smaller than all the giant kitties we have so far) without needing to waste a slot on a third cat

Smilodon gracilis not added, because:

• Spite (EZ wanted it)

[flint sable]

time to get to work

[flint sable]

fairly certain S. fatalis coexisted with Titanis in Florida during the Early Pleistocene, albeit breifly, and S. populator very likely coexisted with Psilopterus, so all three coexisted with terror birds

[buoyant zephyr]

Im pretty sure there won't be added alts unfortunately

[austere sparrow]

Yknow what let me just tally all the genera that deserve fourth alts, and which and why they should get certain alts. (Yes, I know they said no retroactive alts, but they said no to a lot of things they later decided to include after all, so, whatever.)

Parasaurolophus: Tlatolophus alt

• Unique crests give unique vibes to Hadrosaurs (as they do to Ceratopsians) and Tlatolophus is the closest relative, so...
• Interesting educational context due to the name
• Getting Nigel to say the name amuses me
• Hadrosaur has yet to appear in paleomedia, meaning Google image search will be flooded with the PK version
• We have multiple old Hadrosaur skin concepts we could draw inspiration from... 🤔

Protoceratops: P. hellenikorhinus alt

• Different head gives it a look that is a mix of fierce and dopey that ends up being cute
• While rare in paleomedia, it does appear sometimes. I'm sure it'll become a breakout star any day now.

Apatosaurus: Second skin for Brontosaurus
Yeah idk give Brontosaurus another skin I guess. Sorry, B. yahnahpin I don't really care about you.

Velociraptor: Adasaurus alt

• Lived in the Nemegt forrmation, which already contains other animals.
• More foresty/wetlandy biome preferences and unique skin options to distinguish it from the existing Velociraptor options.

Wooly Mammoth: Mammuthus exilis

• While the Columbian mammoth can probably sustain its own three skins, the wooly mammoth already kinda runs the gamut - so lets add something that vaguely fits into the sequence instead of bucking the trend. Dwarf island mammoth. Sorry to people who wanted Palaeoloxodon falconneri if the devs actually go with this.

Lambeosaurus: Lambeosaurus magnicristatus

• Do I even need to explain myself here.

[buoyant zephyr]

Aye

What about giraffatitan

Thats a classic one

[flint sable]

with Tlatolophus, Charonosaurus's crest already looks quite similar to it since U14 updated its crest

[buoyant zephyr]

Also idk if any animal should get more than one alt genera

Kind of overcrowded

[austere sparrow]

Feel like Giraffatitan is distinct enough to get its own roster spot

But also like

Brachiosaurus is kinda like. An animal that is overshadowed by another animal accidentally pretending to be it. So it's like. It is a household name, but like, the name is the only thing Brachiosaurus itself is contributing y'know

[buoyant zephyr]

Like oviraptor

Or inostrancevia

[austere sparrow]

Inostrancevia isn't even contributing the name, just the size 💀

[buoyant zephyr]

No I mean

It gets called gorgonops

Or gorgonopsid

[plush nacelle]

Inostrancevia is almost complete

[austere sparrow]

Oh huh

Right, Inostrancevia is in Giraffatitans situation, then, not Oviraptors

[late swallow]

Smol

[late swallow]

Yeah;; what most think of B. altithorax is actually G. brancai

[austere sparrow]

In retrospect I feel like we should've maybe gotten Giraffatitan with a Brachiosaurus alt species... 😔

[late swallow]

Yeh

Of Morrison Sauropods, I go to B. altithorax over Camarasaurus - I just don't care for it in general

And of course, Brontosaurus and Apatosaurus hold a separate niche - both by feeding strategy and appeal than the aforementioned Macronarians

[austere sparrow]

Camarasaurus has definitely grown on me (from back in the day when they were the only Sauropod) but I am not sure I'll use it often once I pick the game back up again

Since with Apatosaurus (and the upcoming no-brainer addition Diplodocus) we already have two animals to play "smaller Sauropod pal" for Brachiosaurus

[late swallow]

Like everyone here I'm sure, I come from the jwe series (only played 2) and I just, couldn't find a reason to place camara instead of any other macronarian or titanosaur

[austere sparrow]

I am one of those elderly people who played JPOG and Zoo Tycoon 2, actually

Played JWE too but like. After finding out about PK. (P sure it wasn't released back then, tho)

And Camarasaurus is in JPOG where its whole schtick is "Brachiosaurus' companion Sauropod that gets unlocked alongside it"

[late swallow]

I'd really like to see dippy, apato and bronto are nice, of course, but the family's eponymous genus - one I am fond of for the same reason I love A. jimmadseni and co. so much -BBC's WWD: Ballad of Big Al - that's something special

[austere sparrow]

Usually you get them faster cuz they're less rare

Diplodocus definitely overtook Apatosaurus and Brontosaurus in popularity after the whole Brontosaurus disappearance debacle

[late swallow]

I'll admit, I'm either too young for jpog, or was just... uh, sheltered is how ill put it

[austere sparrow]

Can probably singlehandedly thank Walking with Dinosaurs for that

JPOG was great. It was utter garbage, but it was great.

[late swallow]

Oh I know games like that

They're my favourite

[austere sparrow]

Yeah lotsa games, especially retro ones, kinda have that vibe

Just that. "They really lacked the means but damnit they were trying" vibe

Feel like Zoo Tycoon had that, but Zoo Tycoon 2 kinda didn't

[late swallow]

I was five

[austere sparrow]

Lmao

Damn. I was four

Guess it was already retro when I picked it up

[patent shadow]

I love hatz

Also I need theri, theri my beloved, one of my favorite guys ever

[late swallow]

And yeah, to bring us back to topic I suppose? I'm just generally excited to see what the devs give us. Knowing that we're getting 3 allo and (apparently) 3 saurophaganax is plenty to sate me

[austere sparrow]

Shoutout to Hatz, gotta love "house of cards built from inferences" animals 😔

[late swallow]

In my top 5

[austere sparrow]

Glad for the three Allos. I do hope they use Allosaurus anax as the name for Saurophaganax since Saurophaganx is apparently a Sauropod now

[late swallow]

1. Allo
   2-5, no order: Tyrannosaurus, Therizinosaurus, Spinosaurus, can't remember the last

[late swallow]

Nope

[austere sparrow]

Well that's kinda dumb in that case

[late swallow]

We're getting A. jimmadseni, A. europaeus, and A. fragilis

[austere sparrow]

Extremely silly choice

[late swallow]

As well as S. maximus

[austere sparrow]

Allosaurus should've gotten to be the first animal with four different alt species, smh

Inb8 europeus lumpage happens and it's down to just two

[late swallow]

Idk where people are getting 3 Saurophaganax from, all I can find is the n.d. S. maximus

[late swallow]

Either way it was confirmed that europaeus is coming

They have n.d. in the game already so its not a stretch

[austere sparrow]

Who the hell is talking about 3 Saurophaganx, there's barely even one

Which other n.d. do they have?

[late swallow]

Ugrunaaluk

[austere sparrow]

Oh yeah

[patent shadow]

I would also like giantgantoraptor and irritator

[austere sparrow]

Silly me thinking PK could be an edutainment game when we're actually a misinfo simulator 😔

[late swallow]

Ichthyovenator

[late swallow]

It's just E. annectens iirc

[austere sparrow]

😔 Damn

[late swallow]

[Everything is E. annectens, even though Anatotitan is the objectively better name]

[austere sparrow]

This makes me want to request Crystal Palace Megalosaurus as a new species addition ngl

[hollow furnace]

regalis, not annectens

[late swallow]

I couldn't find in this recent search, ty

[austere sparrow]

Anatotitan is an okay name but it feels weird on the tongue. Shoutout to spiritual successor Olorotitan

[late swallow]

Duck Titan tho

[austere sparrow]

...Then again the competition is a Placeosaurus so

[patent shadow]

?

[late swallow]

Also, do you know the 3 Sauro we're apparently getting?

[austere sparrow]

3 Sauros, what?

[late swallow]

Ichthy cool and I'd like it as well

[late swallow]

Saurophaganax

[patent shadow]

Ah I see

[austere sparrow]

Do you mean Saurolophus, or some other genus I haven't heard about?

[hollow furnace]

I have no idea what three saurophaganx is referring to

[austere sparrow]

Nah Saurophaganax is an Allo alt genus that should be an alt species

[late swallow]

Nah Saurolophus can rot

[late swallow]

Yes, I agree

[hollow furnace]

Unless it's people saying Saurophaganax is going to have 3 skins, which it will not

[hollow furnace]

Incorrect

[austere sparrow]

💀 Average Theropod fan

[hollow furnace]

Saurolophus awesome

[late swallow]

I'll have to look back through logs

I'm gonna hit with an even worse take [yes, I'm capable]

[patent shadow]

Damn, spicy dino opinions in the chat today

[late swallow]

Parasaurolophus bad

[austere sparrow]

Saurolophus is Edmontosaurus but slightly better, without the "T.rex snack privilege" and with Asian distribution

💀 Bruh

Do you just hate Hadrosaurs

Is that the problem

Parasaurolophus is so cool

[patent shadow]

Hadrosaurs are great tbh

[austere sparrow]

The main fossil we have is of it is a klutz who got their back broken and was a stumbling unlucky binch for the rest of their life

And the way the back broke showcases the ungodly thiccitude of the neck

[patent shadow]

Theyre actually pettable compared to saurupods and ankyosaurs

[austere sparrow]

Hell we know what it sounds like

How is that not cool

...Well. We know what blowing into its skull sounds like, I guess. I suppose they could have messed with the exact noise with soft tissue.

[patent shadow]

I still find the thickness kinda odd? Like it feels a little excessive

I dont think its a swan neck but the reconstruction feels off to me

[austere sparrow]

I mean. Compare it to cows

Seems pretty reasonable

[patent shadow]

Yeah but it looks weird on an animal with such a long neck compared to a cow

[austere sparrow]

Cows have long necks too?

[late swallow]

No

[patent shadow]

Not that long

[austere sparrow]

Well I mean. I guess not.

[patent shadow]

Idk, like it said it just feels off to me

[late swallow]

Ouranosaurus is one I absolutely love

Wait, that's an iguanodont

Look at those stupid faces

[austere sparrow]

Well. Idk what to say. Sorry your aesthetic preferences in this regard are inaccurate, I guess?

Paleopines. Pog

[late swallow]

440 hours

[patent shadow]

Maybe I could find a good piece of paleo art that could make it look correct to me but the reconstructions ive seen so far (admittedly not a lot) just look... weird

[austere sparrow]

Maybe you could look at Gaurs?

[patent shadow]

Wooooooooooo paleo pines

[austere sparrow]

They're not quite as thicc but the vibes are similar

[patent shadow]

What im not allowed to say that a reconstruction feels inaccurate?

[patent shadow]

Hm?

[austere sparrow]

I mean. I guess saying factually wrong statements isn't illegal, no

Gaurs. Type of cow. Fat neck, beefy

Modern so you can watch it in motion

[patent shadow]

Its not a perfect answer tho?

Like its not a promise that this is exactly how it looked

Theres room for interpretation

[austere sparrow]

I guess?

Whatever it exactly looked like, it had a neck that connected to the body quite far back

Idk I spend a lot of time around modern animals so "Long laterally thick sideways thin" neck just makes complete sense to me idk

[patent shadow]

Fair

[prisma portal]

A feathered Hypsilophodon similar to The Isle's take on the dinosaur
They are precious little things

[steep tulip]

They gave it advanced branching feathers?

I'm not against feathered hypsi, but this is too much imo

[short rover]

I really really hope not

I heavily dislike this hypsi even if the design is interesting

[hollow furnace]

I would like a Hypsi, either (simple/type I-III) feathered or not or both

Just a classic plain Jane small herbivore

[left spear]

It also spit nasty blindint chemicals, frankly the feathers are the least out there thing about It.

[steep tulip]

Uh

What's happening on the isle lmao

[left spear]

It's always been like that

In lore it's just that their Dna mutantes ultra fast

[glass snow]

I mean magy in the isle will be poisonous

[left spear]

Like Gallis were feathered but Lost them after like 2 generations

[glass snow]

if it ever releases

isle dinosaurs are like that for some reason

[left spear]

Bruh Beipiao is a loon

[steep tulip]

Ah I see
Kinda weird tho there's isn't much design consistency from what I've seen
If they were all weird mutated dinosaurs it could have been cool, but mixed in there's like really believable depictions and jp animals

[glass snow]

oh forgot about the freak that is loon beipiao

isle dinosaurs are kind of like wack

[left spear]

Ig, in lore they are also slightly hybridized like in jp so Ig the less puré species mutate more and more quickly

Like Carno is literally just carno just a bit smaller, while beipiaosaurus is this:

1.50m tall, semiaquatic and very loon/penguin like

[left spear]

I mean there are mutants (not yet), hyperendrocrines (Godzilla), tissoplastics (sneaky sneaky Venom) and Neurotecnics (weird stuff).

The tisso and neuro are fan art but probably similar to what they will/would be based on the few descriptions we have

[waxen grail]

The animals in the Isle aren’t meant to be actual Dinosaurs in lore. They’re just animals created to look like Dinosaurs.

[steep tulip]

Kinda cool ngl

[runic tiger]

how is this ontopic

get isle slop off my feed

[waxen grail]

I didn’t think that was correct so I asked the rest of the Isle lore community to double check, and that does not seem to be the case.
There are feathered and unfeathered Gallies, but they are not an evolutionary lineage.
The Dinos’ dna also doesn’t really mutate like that, as I said previously the “Dinosaurs” in the Isle are just animals designed to look like Dinosaurs. Their abilities were chosen by the company responsible for their creation to fit a certain niche.

Anyways, time to suggest some species

[left spear]

They changed It again

Seriously

I swear a while ago It was like that, with the whole gens and v.1s and stuff

Anyways yeah suggestions

[steep tulip]

Wdym by animals designed to resemble dinosaurs

[left spear]

Essentially Chickenosaurus

[steep tulip]

Like they took a bird and modified so much it became a dinosaur

Oh
Pretty neat

[left spear]

Idk the isle Lore has had like 7 different tangentally connected versions

[waxen grail]

Dracovenator with both Sinosaurus species as alts or a different slot altogether would be nice.
This would add more diversity to small medium carnivores, and adds Jurassic animals to Asia and Africa, two continents that are somewhat lacking in species anyways.
They also have different crest shapes that could be implemented to further differentiate them from Dilophosaurus.

[waxen grail]

Birds are already Dinosaurs and we don’t know what if any specific species was used as a base, but yes, essentially that.

[left spear]

Pannoniasaurus, super unique hungarian freshwater mosasaur

Part of me whishes It was smaller so It could be a mini

[waxen grail]

Giraffatitan with a Lusotitan alt genus, as well as Europasaurus (Probably not as alt but could work).
This would add Sauropods to continents that currently completely lack them, and adds much needed species to Africa, which is currently rather empty.
Lusotitan’s formation, the Lourinhã Formation, is already in game, and lacks Sauropods, unlike its contemporary, the Morrison. Europasaurus is a dwarf Sauropod, which is pretty cool, and could serve to teach people about insular dwarfism.
Giraffatitan is also what most people think Brachiosaurus looks like, and is mentioned in the loading screen.

[waxen grail]

Speaking of Sauropods from continents that currently have none, Mamenchisaurus, specifically M. sinocanadorum, M. jingyanensis and M. youngi (Because those seem to be the most conplete definite members of the genus).
Asia currently has no Sauropods, or Jurassic species at all, and so this would be much welcome.
Mamenchisaurus also has one of the longest necks compared to its body, which is pretty cool.

[hollow furnace]

Memenchisaurus is pretty much the only additional "big" sauropod (aside from Dippy) I would want

[waxen grail]

To each their own.
I want the currently neglected continents to get more species though. I also want as much Horseshoe Canyon, Dinosaur Park, and Lourinhã representation as possible since those are the main formations the Dinosaurs in my novel series are from.

[austere sparrow]

Isn't Dracovenator just a handful of skull bones?

[smoky spear]

lol they are both dilophosaurus alt materials

Skip please

[austere sparrow]

Not even the most sensible Dilophosaurus alt material considering Cryolophosaurus exists 😔

[waxen grail]

Kentrosaurus would be a great species to add. It could potentially have a Tuojiangasaurus alt genus.
It would work well with Giraffatitan, as it is also from the Tendaguru Formation, and Tuojiangasaurus comes from the Shaximiao Formation like some Mamenchisaurus species.
These genera would add Stegosaurids to Asia and Africa, which both lack not only Stegosaurids but also Jurassic species in general.
They are quite distinct from Stegosaurus, and you will likely be looking at them from the side more often than from the front (Someone said the reason there are so many Ceratopsids but only one Stegosaurid is planned is because Stegos look the same head on)

[waxen grail]

They aren’t planning on adding alts to existing genera

[austere sparrow]

Also damn are you really just gonna stick to Macronarians, Diplodocines, and Mamenchisaurus for Sauropod requests? What about Rebbachisaurs, Dicraeosaurs, Turiasaurs, and the endless weirdness parade small-medium Titanosaurs and basal Sauropodomorphs provide? 😔

[waxen grail]

I haven’t gotten to those ones yet