Community Species Suggestions

[left spear]

Do you know the species name

[waxen grail]

Yes

[left spear]

Ah so you too bear the curse

Guess that's what happens when you let a 12 year-old name a dinosaur

Thankfully it's probably not valid

[waxen grail]

I think it’s dumb that an entire extinct species isn’t allowed to be mentioned because it’s species name is copyrighted

[waxen grail]

I’m so glad that’s the case

[steep tulip]

From what I've heard there's some interesting stuff regarding dracorex, but idk if it will keep the name regardless (or if it will be considered a valid species even)

[flint sable]

fairly certain dracorex has been blasted into oblivion

Stygi is probably valid, the main debate there is whether it should be P. spinifer or its own genus

[hollow furnace]

It may not be

[flint sable]

elaborate

also if dracorex somehow manages to become valid again, thats even more surprising than nanotyrannus being possibly valid

to me anyway

[hollow furnace]

Dracorex has a different spike arragement compared to Pachy or Stygi

And spike arrangement is one of the most common ways pachycephalosaur taxa are distingushed

[golden canopy]

I don't think the devs would implement it into the game either way just because of its status

[winter willow]

You know what the game should do as, like, an April Fool’s DLC or something? A pack that features dinosaurs as envisaged/assembled by the early paleontologists. You know, like the Iguanadon with the nose horn

[steep tulip]

Tbh it would still be a juvenile of something
Probably similar to pachy too

[cinder python]

Adasaurus a close relative of velociraptor

[late swallow]

There have been several studies recently, even one this year, that have all come to the conclusion of Dracorex being a junior synonym of either Pachycephalosaurus or Sygimoloch

[late swallow]

Me too

[waxen grail]

If Dracorex becomes valid, the species name needs to change

[late swallow]

Unlikely to happen, I don't think they changed that beetles name either

[slim flare]

That’s not how that works

If it’s valid, it stays
If it’s invalid, it goes
Simple as that

Genus and species

Together

[waxen grail]

Therefore it needs to be invalid

Couldn’t they assign a new type species though?

[slim flare]

Although if made a generic synonym, we could get Stygimoloch hogwartsia or similar

[waxen grail]

The genus name is fine, the species name is not

[slim flare]

It’s dumb sounding but whatever

[toxic oriole]

HOGWARTS?

[slim flare]

Yes

Dracorex hogwartsia

[toxic oriole]

Aint no way they got harry potter in paleontology

[slim flare]

Although generally considered a synonym of Stygimoloch

[slim flare]

This is from 2006

[waxen grail]

Should we maybe move this discussion to science chat?

[toxic oriole]

🤷‍♀️

[wary nacelle]

They should do an April fools day pack where it’s all ichnogenera (that would be REAL funny)

[inner wedge]

pachys are so weird

like half of them are junior synonyms

at least puberty blockers would let you have draco and styg

[winter willow]

I have to say, I’m still not used to seeing pachy used so much, entirely because I’m used to “paki” being a slur, so it keeps causing my mental reading voice to trip up

[lean hound]

How would you be able to tell apart from its jaw

[late swallow]

Your point?

We have Tyrannosaurus, which by similar logic would make tarbo purposeless

[left spear]

The difference between Tarbo and Rex is considerably bigger than that of Nanuq and tarbo

Even smaller if you put the inevitable Dasp/Alberto/Gorgo on the table

[short rover]

Tarbo is an alt species of rex, not the same as a full inclusion

If tarbo wasn’t an alt species and was taking up a slot by itself, I wouldn’t want it ingame either

[late swallow]

Wait what

Are you saying it's included just as dubious genera like juxia, ugruulak, and saurophaganax?

[glass snow]

juxia is not dubious?

[hollow furnace]

Juxia is not dubious?

[fresh ember]

No. Basically, alt species were initially skins with sprinkles (different stats and preferences) for pre-existing taxa, like Ugrunaaluk for Edmontosaurus, Charonosaurus for Parasaurolophus and in this case, Tarbosaurus for T. rex. Over time, they've had their own tweaks and modifications that enable them to become more distinctive animals.

[late swallow]

I am not the most educated on cenozoic paleofauna

[glass snow]

There is not just alt genera but alt species

like camera

which each skin is a different species

or pachy

Alt genera and species are for diversity in the roster and also cut time and cost for species who otherwise would never get included.

[short rover]

Which is what tarbo is

[glass snow]

Like bronto/apato or rex/tarbo

or sometimes even animals in the same genera with the pachies, allo and camera being the biggest examples

[hollow furnace]

It is funny that I'm pretty sure all the dinosaur alt genera have at some point been considered synonymous with the "parent" taxa lol

[glass snow]

except like juxia

[late swallow]

That's not a dinosaur last I checked

[hollow furnace]

Juxia, you may notice, is not a dinosaur

[glass snow]

yeah it is a mammal

[late swallow]

Droid, pronouns?

[hollow furnace]

"All the dinosaur alt genera"

[glass snow]

I though you said all species

but yeah all dinosaurs

[plush nacelle]

Nanuq used to be synonymus with gorgo, right?

[hollow furnace]

kind of

[glass snow]

It used to be gorgo sp.

or albertasaurid indent

something like that.

because of teeth

[hollow furnace]

I'm unsure if it was officially referred to gorgosaurus, but it was at least treated that way

[glass snow]

later they found a like extremely frag tyrannosaurid who was not albertosaurine and it was probably the one who was the animal who produced those teeth

it was named nanuq

after polar bears

[glass snow]

The teeth were tentatively attributed to gorgo then alberto.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1671/0272-4634(2000)020[0675:TTFTPC]2.0.CO;2

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3951350/

[low bridge]

What a discussion

😶‍🌫️

[glass snow]

Basically the entire gorgosaurus and albertosaurus in prince creek thing were never apart of nanuqs holotype but were teeth associated with the animal. But this is sci chat stuff.

[waxen grail]

Slightly confused by what you’re trying to say here, but Albertosaurus and Gorgosaurus are part of a completely different family within Tyrannosauridae and so are quite different from Tarbosaurus and Tyrannosaurus.
You might just be trying to say the difference between Nanuqsaurus and Tyrannosaurus is even smaller when compared to the larger difference between rex and the two Albertosaurines and Daspletosaurus though, which is true (Pretty sure Daspletosaurus is considered a sister taxon to Tyrannosaurus, but I might be wrong).

[short rover]

Daspleto is not considered sister to tyrannosaurus, its its own thing

At least based on what we know as of now

[waxen grail]

Sister taxon are their own thing just closely related to another genus

[short rover]

I’m aware

By “own thing” I meant it’s not a sister taxon

[hollow furnace]

Daspletosaurus is not the sister taxa to Tyrannosaurus, Tarbosaurus would be that currently

[waxen grail]

Ok

Is Gorgosaurus still sister taxon to Albertosaurus?

[hollow furnace]

Yes

[short rover]

Yes

[plush nacelle]

Alioramus better anyway

Praise alioramus

[low bridge]

Pray for Qianzhousaurus

And Olorotitan

[cinder python]

Praise Alioramus

[low bridge]

Let's take Corythoraptor

Neat Ovi

Realy

[waxen grail]

Would Qianzhousaurus be an alt of Alioramus or are they too different from one another?

[hollow furnace]

Yeah, they’d work as alts

[low bridge]

Is Tarchia neat anky?

To put in game?

[cinder python]

What do all of these have in common

[left spear]

They all have species you want in the game

Arthro, Mega, anurognathid and Mawsonia

Or that they are all human made objects that represent a species, but then why is It in this channel

[flint sable]

is that Anurognathus an official piece?

I dont recognize it lol

[cinder python]

This one

[cinder python]

It is in the game

[flint sable]

oh cool

[left spear]

Halloween decor right

[cinder python]

Right

[lean hound]

they're all depicting animals that aren't in the game?

[quaint plank]

Yet… ?

[cinder python]

I will do anything to get that Mawsonia

[median relic]

maybe this is a hot take

but

I honestly want qianzhousaurus over alio if we can't have them as alts of each other

[cinder python]

Even though I’m more team Alio I agree alts would be nice but that means only one will get a silhouette

[winter willow]

What about a tristegodocus?

[vivid field]

same

[median relic]

if the devs add carnotaurus do you guys want it to have a red skin or break the mold

[late swallow]

I'd like to see both, ideally

[And a random button on skin & gender]

[median relic]

btw, similar to how I have to imagine allosaurus irl as having the walking with dinosaurs coloration, to me the isle carnotaurus is how I know it sounded like

[low bridge]

Only cats i see in game are Homotherium, Amphimachairodus

[winter willow]

I for one would love to see the sabre-toothed penguin added to the game and I hope to gods someone gets that reference.

[lean hound]

Definitely break the mold

[autumn plover]

I'd like Carnotaurus to have a red skin, I think warm colours suit it very well, even if not red something like orange would go well

An animal having 3 skins means that people who want something less traditional simply wouldn't have to use the reddish skin

[hollow flower]

Id like to see confuciusornis as a mini

Alongside some other birds such as Longirostravis, Falcatakely and Avisaurus

[lean hound]

I wouldn't mind if it was a mix of warm colours

but pure red and black is a no from me

[plush nacelle]

Carolina parakeet

Good birb

[hollow flower]

I finished my mesozoic bird book

Now im thinking which ones are good additions

Now im quite partial to Gargantuavis

[deep lake]

the dwarf sauropod from hateg island
Hungarian lizard
Magyarosaurus dacus

[smoky spear]

https://vxtwitter.com/Paleojim/status/1938709751698976915

Jim Kirkland (@Paleojim)

Working on the Morrison ankylosaur monograph.. All figures completed; polishing the write up on the forelimbs. So for #FossilFriday Polacanthine pectoral girdle and forelimb figs. Gastonia for comparison is Cretaceous. @utahgeological @JeremyBRoberts

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 27, 2025, 9:23 PM

after seeing this i want gastonia and 1 of the alt as a morrison ankylosaur

[sharp plinth]

Concavenator would be sick
(Last img is unrelated)

[inner wedge]

pk roster reveals > smash bros roster reveals

[low bridge]

We should have Aepyornis

[sharp dock]

honestly I enjoy when people suggest an animal and you know, elaborate on why it would be a good addition, it's more interesting than just parroting names

[median relic]

jarvis, show me this guy's PK wishlist

[sharp dock]

it's funny this was my exact reaction when I read his comment lol

[woven hollow]

Now that ontogeny is in the game, there's an animation rig for sauropods of that size, so implementing this would be easier than an entirely from-scratch new species

[feral cedar]

I'm ngl I hope PK eventually gets around to Polacanthus/Gastonia

Gastonia could be the 'main' one. First skin is G. burgei, second skin is G. lorriemcwhinneyae, and the third one is an alt genus; Polacanthus

Polacanthus could go with Iguanodon (and maybe Hypsilophodon? 🤞) for Barremian Europe exhibits

Unfortunately Gastonia wouldn't have much for 'penmates' except for like... maybe Falcarius?

I dunno, I'd be happy with just Polacanthus but I recognize Gastonia is better preserved

[smoky spear]

tbh i feel like devs wont give us ankylosaur alts

bc their armors are already hard to make

[late swallow]

I would love to see sauro/borealopelta merely for the shoulder spikes

They're really cool

[deep lake]

Epic

[low bridge]

Are here any Daeodon fans?

I think that Daeodon should be Dlc animal or base game

[runic tiger]

I could see it being either, it was apart of the original 50 kickstarter animals tho

So it'd def be nice to see it return

[hollow furnace]

I just really want it, entelodonts are super cool

Please don’t hide the jugal flanges

[late swallow]

i'll hide your jugal flanges

[quick ore]

Which would be the best Chalicothere species to add? I don't believe any of the formations currently in the game contain Chalicotheres in them so I think it would need to be a new formation.

[buoyant zephyr]

Moropus

[quick ore]

Also, side note, I just found out that the Shara Murun Formation that Juxia is from also contains the Brontothere Rhinotitan. Do you think that would be a good species to add as an alt to Megacerops/Embolotherium?

[low bridge]

Ofc

[quick ore]

if Moropus is added I assume its alt species, if added, would be another non knuckle walking species like Ancylotherium

[low bridge]

Ancylotherium for grassland would go insane

😶‍🌫️

[feral cedar]

what do you mean by this

Does Max Bellomio's Daeodon show the jungal flanges?

[low bridge]

What about dome headed chalicothere? Tylocephalonyx

Hmmm

[hollow furnace]

Somewhat

A lot tend to bury then underneath flesh and hide them

[plush nacelle]

Check out sansan site

[quick ore]

oh that looks cool

[plush nacelle]

Generally there are 4 relatively complete chalicotheres: anisodon, moropus, ancylotherium and borissiakia

[slim flare]

Damn that’s it?

[plush nacelle]

To be fair there is apparently

Just 15 of them

Alright there is also tylocephalonyx, that makes it 5

[low bridge]

I think that Megacerops, Embolotherium with extra Rhinotitan as alt should be good

[quick ore]

might be asking for too many there

[low bridge]

It is just 2 well known bronthotheres and 1 extra unknown to everyone

[quick ore]

That's still a lot compared to what a lot of other groups have gotten. I would just temper expectations to be 1-2 Brontothere species.

[slim flare]

But hippopotamus!

[steep tulip]

Tbh I don't know what the current consensus is on how to depict entelodonts, I mostly find the pic funny

[hollow furnace]

That’s pretty much what I’m getting at lol

[short rover]

Megacerops and embolo is not needed

Just megacerops would be fine

[hollow flower]

I personally would like both but yeah Mega is the preferable option

[plush nacelle]

megacerops found in daeodon and hyaenodon formation

[short rover]

It was not

[low bridge]

What is your opinion on extinct bovids like Rusingoryx, Bootherium??

🫣

[quick ore]

I feel like Rusingoryx is fine if only for the potential to give it cool vocalizations

[low bridge]

He is just Parasaurolophus of Cenozoic

[quick ore]

It would only be a bad choice in that idk what could be added alongside it from its formation

since hominines are off the table

[low bridge]

Dinofelis?

[quick ore]

is Dinofelis from Rusinga Island?

I also think Dinofelis is very low as far as necessary additions go. You could do with adding much better new machairodonts than it.

[outer moth]

Rusinga was an island?

[low bridge]

I shooted bad with Dinofelis, sorry my bad

[quick ore]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusinga_Island

I'm not sure if it was an island when Rusingoryx was alive but ths formation is on the island

[low bridge]

Homotherium or formidable Amphimachairodus? Hmm idk rly which one is better

I go with Homotherium bc we have permafrosted cub of it

[feral cedar]

Dinosaur fans love to cherry pick for their arguments lol

I’ve seen people say crocodiles are the closest living relatives of dinosaurs when trying to push the “No roaring” narrative

But they switch to “chickens” being the closest when they want to justify feathers

[waxen grail]

Birds are the closest living relatives to Dinosaurs (Being as they are Dinosaurs), then after that would be Crocodilians. If we count extinct groups then Pterosaurs are the closest non Dinosaur relatives. Pterosaurs have integument that may or may not be feathers, so it’s reasonable to assume that their common ancestor may have had proto feathers. To add to that, crocodilian scales are made of the same proteins (Iirc it’s proteins might be something else) as feathers, so it’s reasonable to suggest that Archosaurs as a group started off with proto feathers.
Roaring is a mammalian thing, and we don’t know what non avian Dinosaurs used to produce sound, and we don’t know when or if non bird Dinosaurs evolved a syrinx, but since most animals, including crocodilians, use a larynx to produce noise, basing that on crocodilians is reasonable.
Also crocodilian vocalisation has been described as roaring, but it’s not a roar like a lion or a movie T. rex, more of a deep guttural noise.

Using phylogenetic bracketing helps determine the likelihood of an extinct animal having something by comparing two or more of the most closely related groups to each other.
In the case of Dinosaurs there are only two living Archosaur groups, birds and crocodilians, and therefore if both of these groups have something, it is likely that their common ancestor had it, and therefore it is likely all that common ancestor’s descendants had it too. We know that some Dinosaurs had feathers due to fossils and living examples, but we don’t know when feathers evolved and whether they are ancestral to Archosaurs or not.

[quick ore]

We know they were ancestral to Ornithodirans though, and that crocodilians evolved from endothermic ancestors

[steep tulip]

Ehh maybe

We need more research on this kind of stuff, I don't even know if a paper about that released or is in the works

They could have been mesotherms or ectoterms straight up

From all we know

tho I personally lean more towards mesotherms rn

[zenith oracle]

small creatures like anatosuchus
Dynamosuchus
Smilosuchus
Tetrapodophis

Reason: literally for the cute factor and immersion

[lean hound]

This channel seems to turn into science chat 2 every other day

[cinder python]

Oops forgot one as for what it is I don't know some kind of Pterosaur

[waxen grail]

Dsungaripterus perhaps?

[cinder python]

maybe

[low bridge]

Only flying Cenozoic birds that would be cool are Teratornis, Pelargornis, Haasta Eagle,Argentavis

[sharp dock]

You're so cliche

[lean hound]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[low bridge]

Yeah lie

[sharp dock]

just because you only know the 5 large birds everyone knows doesn't mean there aren't other cool ones :)

[austere sparrow]

Straight beak suggests it's likely not Dsungaripterus. Could see it being Pterodactylus, Germanodacytlus, or Petrodactyle (likely that first one for, well, obvious reasons I suppose)

...Could obviously also be a more obscure relative but those three were the first that came to mind. Even though, Petrodactyle is pretty obscure, so not sure why it in particular did.

Would absolutely love Dsungaripterus tho. Deserves the justice of a proper pycnofibred pop culture depiction.

But if it was up to me the Terrariums would be positively littered with small Pterosaurs so what do I know

[hollow furnace]

Vibe

[austere sparrow]

...Sales pitching but Pterosaurs would be a great vehicle to teach about the ways diets influence beak shape in modern birds. Could see a whole little infographic poster contrasting Pterosaurs and modern birds with a similar diet although it would be really funny if that graphic became outdated so maybe just the Pterosaurs we found stomach contents off, just to be safe :P

...Would love PK as a teaching tool on modern animals in general, tbh. Having extinct birds and little mammals galore. Stuff like the Jay (I believe?) from the Messel Pit whose coloration we know, the Antarctic Cretaceous Waterfowl, that kinda stuff

Absolute pipe dream and even with the lessened scope of mini exhibits I'm not sure if that's whatsoever reasonable lol

[austere sparrow]

Shoutout to Cycnorhamphus for example. Definitely not among my favorites, or even a sensible addition really (just asking for broken anims, honestly) but it would be nice to see it's mugshot appear in an infographic somewhere.

[austere sparrow]

This is like asking us to vote between Corythosaurus and Bagaceratops 💀

[austere sparrow]

Art without watermark by Triebold Paleontology (whatever that is), Chris Masna, and PrehistoryByLiam on deviantart.

...You know what, since I have broken my sabbatical, kind of, anyway, let me suggest some animals while I'm at it.

Hungarosaurus. A rare swole Thyreophoran. I am not sure if it will work with established animations/rigs. More or less purely here because of it being weird, reminding me of modern bovids, vibes wise, and I would be interested to see what the team would do with it, skins-wise.

[short rover]

The difference being arsino and platy are both much better

[austere sparrow]

(I am not sure how complete it actually is)

[austere sparrow]

I sure do wish we had more mammals 😔

[short rover]

What the hell is this reconstruction

[austere sparrow]

The fake rhinos, especially.
Uintatherium with Eobasileus alt species
Arsinoitherium
Embolotherium and or Megacerops (though Megacerops is hella bulky so not sure the current rhino animations will still work on it)

Such no-brainer additions in my opinion, honestly 😔

(I also support the Brontothere that lived alongside Juxia as a fun alt mentioned earlier)

[austere sparrow]

It's based on this skeletal. I should note, I am not sure how accurate it is (it looks very sus lmao) but apparently the longer limbs are, indeed, a thing.

[short rover]

They made it so narrow in the recon above, looks like moschops

[austere sparrow]

I do trust cisiopurple more but it does seemingly just look like that.

[short rover]

Huh. What a weirdo

[plush nacelle]

It wouldn't. Bronotheres were moving like elephants

[low bridge]

Bronthotheres were big

[austere sparrow]

Damn. Nice to know. Guess we have Elephant animations ready, too, tho

[low bridge]

Especially Embolo the biggest of them and lesser sized Megacerops

[austere sparrow]

I have been quiet here for a while but it is kinda funny (/sad, in a "this makes me suffer" way not a "yall are pathetic" way) that most of this chat is suggesting obscure (interesting/cool, but obscure) animals, when the most obscure animals in Prehistoric Kingdom right now are still like. Things that featured in JPOG or Walking with Dinosaurs or the like

P sure Torvosaurus is arguably the most obscure animal ingame rn

[waxen grail]

What about Charonosaurus?

[austere sparrow]

And even it had a star role in Dinosaur Revolution

[hollow furnace]

Charonosaurus is already in the game

[austere sparrow]

Oh yeah Alt genera get "My cousin is famous" privileges I wasn't really considering them

But yeah it does seem like Alt genera are the best way to get something obscure ingame

[hollow furnace]

Oh misread, sorry

[waxen grail]

I was saying that as a Dinosaur I’m pretty sure is more obscure than Torvosaurus

[short rover]

Most obscure animal in the game id say is like scelido tbh

[austere sparrow]

It definitely is, but Torvosaurus is the most obscure main species, I'd say

Oh damn

[short rover]

Not counting alts

[austere sparrow]

Yeah nevermind Scelido wins

[hollow furnace]

So obscure everyone forgot about it lol

[austere sparrow]

It was in Dinosaur Britain but like. That's definitely not as big as Dinosaur Revolution

[waxen grail]

I’ve known about Scelido for longer than I’ve known about Albertosaurus

[austere sparrow]

Yeah, Scelido is pretty common in "Dinosaur encyclopedia" books

...Dinosaur theme parks too. Those statue parks you walk around in

Would be funny if crap like Proterosuchus or whatever its name was got in because those theme parks are littered with identical statues of it all made by the same manufacturer

...I do hope the devs redecide their stance on not adding retroactive alts. Europasaurus (based on baby Brach) would be a great way to retroactively showcase the way the ontogeny and growth systems overlap.

Tho hey. Giraffatitan with Europasaurus alt? Hm? Hm? 😏

[waxen grail]

That would be awesome, especially with Lusotitan as another alt

[austere sparrow]

Yeah 😔 Probably negative chances it's gonna happen but yeah 😔

[short rover]

Unfortunately tbh, I’d love giraffa

[austere sparrow]

Giraffa is just Brachiosaurus with more aura, but damn, does it ever have more aura. They're like the virgin vs chad meme

I do like Brachio too and wouldn't want to give it up tho

Dopey big pal

[plain linden]

goofball

[austere sparrow]

Sivatherium
Why:

• Beloved Zoo Tycoon 2 classic due to being an early game unlock and one of the weirder animals in the expansion. It has been repeatedly suggested before for a reason, lol.
• More Mammals for the Mammal throne.
• Should be able to use Paraceratherium animations; less work.
• Multiple species and close relatives, a lot of ALT potential; most notably the similar Bramatherium (see third picture) with an interesting ossicone crown.
• Miocene to Pleistocene survival and range reaching into Eurasia and Africa means it will fit in with a lot of other species, including some that have been planned in the past, such as the Quagga and the Straight-tusked elephant.

Oh, almost forgot, it also has history with mammal paleontology, being one of the few mammals with one of those funky incredibly wrong outdated depictions.

Look at this goober creature

(not accurate)

(but good art)

[outer moth]

Not to mention it has species such as S. maurisium, which is an incredible reference if done right

Good job on this suggestion

[austere sparrow]

Thanks!

[outer moth]

It's original for once

And it actually states why an animal should be added instead of parroting

Like I also want Siiva due to the fact that it was my favorite ZT2 animal

[short rover]

Siva is cool

[austere sparrow]

Doedicurus and Glyptodon
Why:

• Appears a lot in media. I wouldn't consider it a standout in most places, but it is one of the main gathering mounts in ARK, so even if people won't go wild for it, they will recognize it, and come pre-attached to it.
• Glyptodon is an alt, because it is just that common - Doedic and Glypto have very distinct body shapes, but most of that is either shell or the formers long tail, which looks quite similar at the base - all you really have to do here is give the Doe an exclusive intra-species combat animation and maybe make Glypto's Tail jiggle slightly differently and you can probably keep them on the same model.
  (Fame wise, Glyptodon features prominently in Educational content and the second Ice Age Movie, while Doedic is more common in games and documentaries). My own suggested split would be two Doedic skins, one Glypto.
• Companion animals for both each other and other South American Pleistocene Fauna, such as ground sloths.
• Will most likely require their own rig, but you can probably find other animals to recycle it on.
• Slightly different vibe to Ankylosaurs, feeling slower - could fill a similar role in our zoos to what Giant Tortoises feel in real life - especially if Glyptodon in particular was safe to leave wandering around visitors. (Would not try the same for Doedicurus, tho!)

If the devs think Glyptodon and Doedicurus are better off split apart (they are hardly sister taxa, after all) the smaller Boreostemma would be a good alt species for it. (Glyptotherium maybe too).

[steep tulip]

I would love both, but considering how combat going to work Im doubtful they can work as alts (due to the tail)

[austere sparrow]

Yeah, you'd have to limit Doedic to only intra-specifically using the tail to make that work, huh

I do still feel that they both deserve an inclusion. Boreostemma could help Glyptotherium stand out a bit, and. Well. For the rest there's skins, I guess.

Even though Armadillos are hardly known for fancy patterns.

[steep tulip]

true lol, but tbh not like they are fighting for a spot with others

so we might get glypto in a dlc who knows (if doedi is indeed in u20)

[austere sparrow]

Squinting at Eleutheroceros rn to see if it'd be a good alt

It seemingly has a slightly different tail club situation, which would be enough for a megatheropod...

Okay I think Eleutheroceros would be a sensible Doedic alt but I doubt I'd even remember it by the time Doedic actually gets added into the game

Sorry Glyptodonts, if you wanted to be memorable your scientists shouldn't have given most of you such silly unparsable names

Eleutheroceros (with Doedicurus) btw

Looks like the devs might accidentally recreate it via ontogeny anyway

[low bridge]

Only Glyptodonts that are worth mentioning are Glyptodon, Glyptotherium,Holmesina

Panochtus

[austere sparrow]

Panochtus?

No love for my boy Propalaehoplophorus?

[steep tulip]

parapropalaehoplophorus for terrariums

[austere sparrow]

Parapropalaehoplophorus as the designated "we tested if stupid long names work with this UI, and they do" animal

[short rover]

Doedicurus is easily the best choice for the game

And hopefully coming in update 20

Also Holmesina isn’t a glyptodont

[austere sparrow]

If I was forced to stick to just one Glyptodont it would probably be Doedicurus. Albeit I do feel like Glyptodon deserves inclusion for those "Mammalian Giant Tortoise" vibes I mentioned.

...I guess considering we also have Ankylosaurs I am suddenly real torn lol. Doedicurus kinda muscles in on their vibes a little bit

...Ankylosaurs, I say. As if we had more than one. 😭 Poor scorned thyreophorans

[short rover]

That’s what’s cool about it tho

Considering it’s a mammal

[steep tulip]

I like the humble look of glyptodon more, but cant really complain with doedi lol

[austere sparrow]

Macrauchenia (alt: Xenorhinotherium)
Why:

• Boy, where do I begin. Walking with Beasts, Zoo Tycoon, Ice Age, Classic Paleoart... The good old trunker who, turns out, didn't have a trunk is as classic as a small herbivore can be. The updated design is a good opportunity to educate people about new science, too. And well, new Macrauchenia just kinda looks dope.
• It miiiight be able to use Paracer anims? Probably not but. It feels like it maybe could. If not, Deer anims are right there.
• "Pal"/Snack for Smilodon, for themed sections. Actual potential pal for animals like Megatherium and Doedicurus.
• Xenorhinotherium: Basically just Macrauchenia but tropical. Adds new design opportunities and biome preferences.

[austere sparrow]

I really love the calm vibes Glyptodon has. It just feels like something that gently ponders along olden timey paleoart

...Honestly maybe Glyptodon should get that as another notch under its belt. It's among the few animals who still look more or less the same they did as when many of the oldest potential players were getting into paleontology. Might be a sleeper agent audience magnet, right there. Probably not but, y'know.

Shoutout to Moropus as another one of those.

[steep tulip]

both goated

[austere sparrow]

Oh, I should note, the "Litopterans of Kaimere" animals are spec evo relatives of Macrauchenia, not Macrauchenia itself, but they capture the vibe of modern Macrauchenia really well

[short rover]

Yeah they’re pretty good

I’ve always been partial to Julio lacerdas reconstructions of both genera

[low bridge]

What about Glyptodon and Glyptotherium? Can they be alts or separate genera?

[cinder python]

Ailurarctos the small Panda can’t let the Bear rig go to waste there are more prehistoric Bears then the Short faced and Cave

[plush nacelle]

There are plenty more paraceratheres

Doesnt mean we need them

[austere sparrow]

I did some mammals, lets do a dinosaur. Or two.
Fukuiraptor (and Australovenator)

• Fukuiraptor is an utter glubshittosaurus. But it does have something going for it: Refer to the first picture. That's the statue of it, in front of the Fukui train station. It does share the area with other animals, and I certainly wouldn't mind Fukuisaurus, but it is probably the most interesting of the Fukui animals. It is also a fragmentary mess. But like, it has a train station statue, like. Come on.
• Australovenator is here as a hanger-on. It too has statues (not just this one) but the most prominent one is in front of a museum and that's less impressive than a train station, I'd say.
• Both of these animals are local darlings of countries that are prone to video game purchases - so yeah, this suggestion is really more economical than science-inspired. Having them presented as the main animal and having grown up Megaraptor/Maip as alts also seems like an option (has been suggested here before after all). Might want to split them into multiple slots, also, since I feel like this is definitely an animal group people would appreciate having both feathered and scaly skin options for.

[austere sparrow]

Hm, do love these. Feel like we could maybe use the Bear rig on a non-Schizothere Chalicothere, tho?

Panda is a classic for zoo games, so having a Storebrand Panda would make what I would usually consider an obscure silly choice a p valid inclusion

[plush nacelle]

Panda being classic for zoo games is silly reason for there being panda ancestor in PK

Ngl

[steep tulip]

artctodus/artcotherium the only other bears I want

[austere sparrow]

It absolutely is but I feel like we get too self-serious with our suggestions sometimes

[low bridge]

Dome headed Giraffe is neat

[austere sparrow]

Discokeryx

Would be fun to include, especially if they gave it sheep vibes

[low bridge]

Dome headed chalicothere would also be good

[silver steeple]

How would the bear rig be used for a long armed knuckle walking ungulate

[austere sparrow]

Extremely lopsidedly lol

Yeah, giving it its own rig would make more sense, and I feel like at that point skipping Chalicotheres entirely in favor of Schizotheres is just the more sensible choice 😔

[silver steeple]

PK rigs are pretty flexible but not that flexible lol

I think chalicotherium is the most likely candidate of any chalicothere period tbh

[austere sparrow]

I guess Anisodon could maaaaybe share a rig with a Gorilla lemur, maybe? Damn

[silver steeple]

It's not like they're afraid of using new rigs outright

[austere sparrow]

Hm. Seems everything they gave a new rig so far has something else that could be using it, tho

[silver steeple]

Afaik bear rig is unique

[austere sparrow]

They are planning a second bear

[silver steeple]

Nothing uses the mammoth rig yet

[austere sparrow]

They are also planning a second elephant

[silver steeple]

Supposedly

[austere sparrow]

Supposedly.

[silver steeple]

We don't know how much stock to put into those images yet

But if you really wanna go down that route there are other things

[austere sparrow]

I think I would prefer Anisodon to Chalicotherium, honestly. I guess it might have chances as a Juxia style baby alt, tho.

[silver steeple]

There's other chalicotheres

As you mentioned, some primates

[austere sparrow]

Yeah, Schizotheres should be able to use the Paracer rig

I am too used to mods, where "rigs/animations need to pre-exist" is close to gospel lol

[silver steeple]

I was talking about chalicotheriines

[austere sparrow]

As alts for Chalicotherium, you meant?

Or. Alt rig users?

[silver steeple]

Like I wanna point out that Deinocheirus and rex are on the same rig

[silver steeple]

That

[austere sparrow]

Yeah, I remember being weirded the heck out when I learned that, but in retrospect it makes sense

[silver steeple]

Different chalicotheriine genera, not even just alts

[austere sparrow]

Mhm

I doubt the chances of different Chalicothere genera getting ingame considering we don't even have a Stegosaur ingame yet

[silver steeple]

For example Hesperotherium could be pretty neat

[austere sparrow]

It would

I would sure love to have dozens and dozens of shoulder-sized Chalicotheres

[silver steeple]

I mean it would certainly be a thing far down the line

I don't have high hopes for any chalicotheres before full launch anyway tbh

[austere sparrow]

Chalicotherium isn't that much larger than a person, huh

[plush nacelle]

Chalicotherium is one species rig and done

[austere sparrow]

Definitely longing for more Medium sized and small animals

But I guess "dinosaurs sell", but not those stinky tiny dinosaurs I happen to like in particular

[late swallow]

Would love even more ornithimimids

[austere sparrow]

I am. Definitely once again questioning the devs choice to handle ontogeny the way they did btw. I guess it means that having tiny relatives of animals should be easy (Magyarosaurus/Europasaurus/Titanomachya alts when) but still

[short rover]

What are you questioning about it?

[austere sparrow]

I really do hope we'll get a period of a good chunk of animals releasing into the basegame once all the underlying systems are done

[austere sparrow]

Just the sheer workload involved in seamless growth

[short rover]

Oh yeah it’s pretty crazy

But seamless growth is such a cool feature

I can only hope that someday devs will manage to achieve free roam aquatics and fliers

[austere sparrow]

It's cool but I almost wish they put the work into making glubshitto clones with somewhat recognizeable names instead 😔

[short rover]

Nah

[austere sparrow]

I knew stuff like Arenysaurus and Olorotitan had little to no chance of getting added, but by now I feel like the same applies to genera like Corythosaurus and Tsintaosaurus as well

I am literally saying "I think this" you can't just 'nah' that lol. Are you accusing me of lying or something? 😂

I mean the thing is also like

If mods are possible those clone genera are basically guaranteed anyway

Even if the skin might not be as nice looking

See that's one benefit of having dinosaurs look like fake little plastic toys; easier for modders to match the artstyle. Sorry for the drive-by-roasting, JWE.

So maybe I shouldn't complain too much, I suppose.

...Although seamless growth will definitely make modded animals harder, too.

Anyway, time for me to disappear back into the ether

[left spear]

Eh doesn't matter Coty Will take that place soon

[short rover]

Right…

[buoyant zephyr]

What animals do yall think should be base game?

[slim flare]

Scroll up

[buoyant zephyr]

Dont see anything

[outer moth]

Honestly, Deinonychus

Now, I'll try to do an article like what Becca did

[left spear]

Idk but there's a few suggestions if you scroll upwards

[buoyant zephyr]

Thats very broad amigo

Something more specific

[left spear]

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Huh omango really is writting an article

[outer moth]

Deinonychus should be in the game for like, a ton of reasons, and I'll definitely be going over them.

1. At the moment, there's a distinct lack of small animals in the game, and Deinonychus's inclusion would help even it all out. It would also even out the sheer amount of megatheropods represented in PK.

2. .Deinonychus has existed for a while in PK's history, making it to the inital concept stages before ultimately being "reshuffled" like the rest of Cloverly's animals, ultimately gutting this fairly cool formation of it's representation.

3. Deinon's impact on the paleo scene is immeasurable, as it's discovery triggered the dinosaur revolution, alongside countless media inspirations. The name alone is known far n wide, featherless or not.

Mb accidentally sent it too early

[lean hound]

Also I'd say it's the dromaeosaur

[lean hound]

even the iconic jp velociraptor is based off it

[slim flare]

No Deinonychus, no peace

[nimble wedge]

agreeed

[outer moth]

Lil size comparison too

[slim flare]

The film Velociraptor is Deinonychus

[lean hound]

that's what i said

[slim flare]

You said based on

[lean hound]

💔

[low bridge]

Sivatherium with Bramatherium alt

Stegotetrabelodon (weird enough Elephant)

[outer moth]

That I agree on
Plus we really do need an inbetween for Velo and Utah

[slim flare]

Mastodon with Notiomastodon alt

[kind oriole]

Good points, let me counterargue for engagement! This is what this thread could be!

1. I agree we need more small animals, but I rather see representatives from other groups of dinosaurs beyond another dromaeosaur (knowing that Utahraptor will be coming). Guanlong is still a personal favourite, having seen the animal explored in earlier PK plans; Prenocephale is in that same camp, with its cousin Pachycephalosaurus teased; in terms of mammals I can only dream of Prolibytherium and similar sized artiodactyls.

2. The issue with Cloverly is that you cannot have Tenontosaurus and Sauropelta without Deinonychus, and the other way around. The formation would feel empty: devs might have realised this and led with Acrocanthosaurus standing more on its own. I can live with having neither of those, if we still get a clubless ankylosaur (like possibly teased Edmontonia) and another hadrosaur like Saurolophus.

3. This argument can be made for most animal currently in the game and projected. But video games follow a different logic compared to other multimedia productions in that new additions need to feel different enough for the players, who mostly are not specialists in paleontology

[plush nacelle]

Meanwhile PZ toss bornean elephant at u

[austere sparrow]

Zoo Tycoon 2 had Deinonychus without Tenontosaurus and Sauropelta. JWE didn't have Tenontosaurus either (it did have Sauropelta but Deinonychus doesn't interact with it). Hell, most media I can think of that has Deinon, Tenonto or Sauropelta tends to only have either one or two of them

I definitely would like Guanlong but Idk, Deinonychus is pretty distinct from both Velociraptor and Utahraptor, feels like it's still a good and unique animal to have to me

[late swallow]

Another shortstack: Homolocephale

[lean hound]

oh god not the jwe deinon

[austere sparrow]

Love Homalocephale in the JPOG-and-derivative games but it's kinda interchangeable with other small Pachycephalosaurs, and PK has more history with Prenocephale (who is larger and has the boon of being in a whopping two documentaries, whoa. Dinosaur and Prehistoric Planet, specifically).

Deinon is such a presence I would take it without any other Cloverly animal honestly (even if I quite like some of them)

[late swallow]

Homalocephale gets points for being very puntable

[austere sparrow]

It is kinda funny to have Deinonychus of all animals receive a pushback post, tho

It's just at the treshold for size, I think? I would rather have something just slightly larger (or a slightly smaller terrarium species I guess)

[steep tulip]

I want deinonychus in the game because I like it

🤫

[austere sparrow]

What do you like about it?

[steep tulip]

Deinonychus

[austere sparrow]

Oh god apparently Homalocephale is reasonably large by Pachycephalosaur standards, rip

[steep tulip]

Hamalo is also maybe a juvenile from what I've heard
Or something like that don't remember

Goat stegoceras

[austere sparrow]

Yeah I dunno. I feel like unless the PK devs decide to complete the JPOG roster I feel like they'd avoid Homalo? But I also couldn't tell me where I'm getting those vibes from

[short rover]

Important to science, well known, unique size range, unique behavior (probably pack hunter), and it’s my fav dinosaur 🙂

[austere sparrow]

See, that's how it's done 😤

Obligatory "Pack hunter versus Group Scavenger" debate

Wait couldn't the babies like. Glide

🤔

[steep tulip]

Doubt it

[austere sparrow]

I vaguely remember seeing a paper about it

...Would gliding babies make the inclusion less likely, tho? That's probably annoying to implement

[late swallow]

This has been disproven with the finding of juvenile Prenocephale

[austere sparrow]

Now that we have babies, part of me wants to avoid animals that don't have known juvenile fossils 😅

Or, well, close relatives, anyway.

[late swallow]

Evans, et al., 2013

[steep tulip]

Oh thanks

[late swallow]

Restores Homalocephale and Prenocephale as closely related, but still a few layers separated, with Homalocephale being restored as the more basal

[hollow furnace]

Homalocephale is a juvenile

It’s just not a juvenile Prenocephale

[austere sparrow]

Might wanna wait for the adult, I guess? 🙃

[hollow furnace]

Assuming we ever find one

[austere sparrow]

I heard a Beipiaosaurus adult might be coming out soon

[late swallow]

Do we have more than just the Holotype?

[hollow furnace]

Yeah, we have adult specimens of Beipiao

[austere sparrow]

Nice

[hollow furnace]

Of homalo? No

[austere sparrow]

Beipiaosaurus is up there in my faves. I doubt it'll get into PK but if the adult is sufficiently similar to Alxasaurus maybe it can model the baby Alxa (or whatever amalgam Therizinosaur the devs settle on instead)

[waxen grail]

Dryosaurus is in PK despite having no adult specimens

[austere sparrow]

Disgusting.

Mau, delete this

Dryosaurus dissolves into the ether

[median relic]

ok definitely not "probably pack hunter"

[waxen grail]

Possibly pack hunter would be a more accurate statement

[median relic]

not even that though right
whatever mud trap it was found in, they most likely all just died one after another and weren't hunting together, as with utahraptor, afaik

[waxen grail]

It is still possible that they were pack hunters, despite not being super likely

[short rover]

Definitely yes

Definitely yes to it probably being a pack hunter I mean

Multiple bonebeds of multiple deinonychus dying on a hunt is hard evidence to refute

Yet people still try…truly the paleo moment of all time

[median relic]

hey man I want to believe it as much as you

[median relic]

you don't know they were hunting together though. They could've been attracted to the increasingly large pile of bodies

[late swallow]

Carnivore traps

[median relic]

and don't we have direct evidence that they didn't feed their young?

[late swallow]

Nor do we have evidence of them not feeding on their young

[hollow furnace]

Social hunting is not the same thing as feeding young

[median relic]

the kind of pack hunting where you'd expect them to feed their young is the kind people like to apply to dromaeosaurs

[steep tulip]

I think there was a thread posted here a while ago that explained well the evidence of gregarious hunting in dinosaurs

Can't find it tho

[steep crane]

Is Styraco still solitary?

[hollow furnace]

Ok, but that’s not the kind of pack hunting people are meaning when they’re saying “deinonychus was likely a pack hunter” in the modern context

[median relic]

when it seems more likely that, at best, they mobbed prey like komodo dragons

[median relic]

what would you equate it to then

[steep crane]

Think of Deinonychus as a Caracara running Komodo Dragon software.

[plush nacelle]

No

[steep crane]

I mean Ingame.

It’s a herd animal now?

[plush nacelle]

Yes

[steep crane]

Ah.

[hollow furnace]

Crocodile social hunting, communal mobbing behaviour, a unique social structure that doesn’t have a modern analogue just like the vast majority of known non-avian dinosaur social structures?

[steep crane]

Devs changed their minds I see.

[hollow furnace]

Like, almost all known dinosaurs have age segregated social groups despite that being extremely rare in modern land animals, but that doesn’t mean “dinosaurs obviously didn’t herd”

[median relic]

ok but how advanced is croc pack hunting really though

[hollow furnace]

Quite

You have division of roles, and organized behaviours

[glass snow]

pretty advanced

It is coodrinated and has divised roles

[steep tulip]

Also to note that reptile behaviour is really poorly studied so there might be more species that have more complex social dynamics than previously thought of

[median relic]

not calling you a liar, but is there a video?

I've heard people talk about croc pack hunting before but has it been filmed in which it is evident they are working like that

[hollow furnace]

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03949370.2014.915432

[late swallow]

Yakuza behaviour

[autumn plank]

Maiasaura would have been awesome to see on U15, but all we can do is wait for what animal they will add after U15

[short rover]

Maybe post ea

[tardy whale]

Cronopio dentiacutus

https://tenor.com/view/scrat-ice-age-ice-age-squirrel-scrat-ice-age-scrat-squirrel-gif-24802411

Yes, the saber-toothed-squirrel actually existed

[quick ore]

that isn't even a rodent, let alone a squirrel

[tardy whale]

And a Dire-Wolf isn't even a wolf

Or a mountain-chicken that isn't even a chicken (WHY?!)

Gojirasaurs doesn't even look like Gojira

I still want to see the little guy make into the game though

[cinder python]

it's a common name

[late swallow]

I mean, it's in the same Subtribe (Mamalia:Carnivora): Canini

[quick ore]

still to say that a saber-toothed squirrel actually existed is misleading

[low bridge]

Stephanohirnus is needed?

[late swallow]

Parasaurolophus is a bad name too yhen

[low bridge]

Missing piece of Pleistocene

[flint sable]

Thylacinus/Ngamalacinus Species

Reasons for Inclusion

1. Thylacinus is an iconic species of not only Australia, but also of Recently Extinct species, and as a result would be perfect representation for a Recently Extinct Pack.

2. You may be asking, "Well, we know what it looked like, so how would skins work? This my freinds, is where alternative species would come in.

3. My preposition to solve the skin problem would be an additional alternative species or an alternative species and alternative genus for Thylacinus cynocephalus.

4. My main sugguestion for an alternative species for Thylacinus cynocephalus would be Thylacinus potens, the largest member of Thylacinus that lived during the Late Miocene. This species would not only show representation to Australia's more distant past, but would also bring more representatives from that time period as a whole.

5. The third skin could be one of two things: An additional skin for T. potens, or another Thylacinid species. My personal reccomendation for another Thylacinid species would be Ngamalacinus, for a few reasons. One, it is one of the most basal thylacinids in the fossil record, dating as far back as the Oligocene, again giving more representation to a currently underrepresented time period. The second reason is that one of the species of Ngamalacinus is actually named after Nigel Marvin, N. nigelmarveni, named just last year. However, I think pretty much any other Thylacinid species would work, like another member of Thylacinus proper or perhaps Nimbacinus.

In conclusion:

Thylacinus should be added due to it being an icon of not only Australia, but also recently extinct species, and would be perfect for a Recently Extinct Pack. In addition, it should have either an alternative species with 2 skins, being T, potens, or 2 alternative species, one being T. potens and another being another Thylacinid, preferably Ngamalacinus nigelmarveni.

Any questions feel free to ask
(paleoart/photos below)

Left: Ngmalacinus nigelmarveni
Right Top: T. potens (center)
Right Bottom: T. cynocephalus photograph

[quick ore]

no

[quick ore]

This is a great idea and would be a great way to include more of Cenozoic australia's diversity.

[flint sable]

definitely! And alternative species are kinda the only way to fix the Thylacine only having one skin lol

since we know exactly how it looked

[low bridge]

I take Menoceras

[quick ore]

I expect them to just put it in the game without any additional skins tbh, but I would be more than happy if it came with something else.

It just depends on what they will do with dlc species in general really

[flint sable]

IMO it would kinda stand out lol

being the only habitat animal with one skin

although I suppose that could apply to a lot of the Recently Extinct species

actually hold on, I think I made a list somewhere for a hypothetical RE pack

partially based on the old kickstarter, but with some new roster additions

[quick ore]

how many like, major species slots are you expecting not counting alts and such?

[flint sable]

found it

[quick ore]

I think the old kickstarter list has way too many and the volant and fully aquatic species are definitely not coming any time soon

[flint sable]

Recently Extinct Species Pack

Thylacinus: T. cynocephalus (one skin) and T. potens (2 skins or another thyla species, hopefully Ngmalacinus)

Dodo: 1 skin based on Ustad Mansur Painting (likely life appearance), 1 based on Edward's Dodo (color only), and another pop culture reference skin (or just something completely new)

Moa: 3 genera/species, either Dinornis robustus/novaezealandiae + Anomalopteryx or D. robustus, P. elephantopus and Anomalopteryx

Bos: Bos priscus, Bos latifrons, and Bos primigenius OR have Aurochs types (african, eurasian, and indian) (aurochs alt system more likely in my opinion)

Equus: E. ferus ferus, E .quagga quagga, and E. ferus occidentalis (or just an E. ferus ferus skin)

**Passenger Pigeon: **Arboreal Terrarium

**Carolina Parrakeet: **Arboreal Terrarium

Great Auk: Summer and Winter plumage and a skin or another member of the genus (probably Pinguinus alfrednewtonis if any)

Duisycyon: Warrah and D. avus, 1 skin for Warrah 2 for avus

Malagasy Pygmy Hippos: The 3 species that existed all as alts, similar to Camarasaurus

I replaced Stellers Sea Cow and Haast's Eagle because their mechanics arent worked in yet, and Bluebuck was replaced because it would have literally no other skins potential IMO and would be stuck with 1 skin

[quick ore]

like it certainly feels like that old list was being very generous

[flint sable]

sorry for massive text blob

but heres some hypotheticals

these would deal with some options

I highly doubt all of these would be in a pack as you said

and I ommited the aquatic and aerials for that reason, too

[quick ore]

why not for the Dodo replace one of those alts with the Rodrigues Solitaire?

[flint sable]

It could definitely be done

I think that would be an OK alt if added, not that nessicary but somewhat decent

wouldnt really add that much in my opinion if you get what I mean, unlike some of the other alts I put on there

its an option, just not that alluring to me IMO

[quick ore]

it's a good list imo

although, you may be able to do better than the carolina parakeet

[flint sable]

probably

[quick ore]

since both it and the passenger pigeon are from the united states

[flint sable]

theres a lot of extinct birds to choose from that would fit in a terrarium

[quick ore]

could maybe choose some other recently extinct bird

like the Hawaiian species

[flint sable]

hell, Hawaii alone could fit like

15 DLC's worth of birds

which is super depressing but also a fact

[quick ore]

some of which would be good as exhibit animals

[flint sable]

I mean hawaii is also the united states, no?

but I get what you mean

[quick ore]

oh well uh

yes but not really lol, I meant more in location

[flint sable]

if I had to pick another bird instead of the Carolina Parrakeet, I would probably pick the Kauai O'o

for a small flying terrarium bird

[quick ore]

like the carolina parakeet and passenger pigeon were in the same part of the world

[flint sable]

but I still think the Carolina Parrakeet is a worthy inclusion, despite living in the same place as the Passenger Pigeon

[quick ore]

i agree, I just think other options would be worth considering

there are even other extinct parrots that would be good

like the one that lived with the Dodo

and that one was a great deal bigger too

[flint sable]

oh true

Broad Billed Parrot would be a nice addition

[quick ore]

mhm

Also, and this might be a bad take, but I think adding the two Cylindraspis tortoise species instead of the malagasy hippos would be good as a way to include tortoises and species to cohab with the dodo. Alternatively, perhaps they could come in a later dlc as an alt to some other tortoise like Megalochelys

[buoyant zephyr]

Apparently it's confirmed

Yei

[flint sable]

Thylacine is confirmed?

Source?

[toxic oriole]

At ONE point in time would Spix's Macaw be a good addition to the pack, BUT its too late for that

[flint sable]

???

Spix's Macaw was never extinct

[toxic oriole]

In the WILD at least

Then again that doesnt really count

Though unless those Northern White Rhinos end up dying, then they aint coming anytime soon

(The rhinos in general)

Yes I know most of them are trying to be saved

That peeps are trying to save the rhinos

(Even if theres only two of them left in the world)

[flint sable]

Northern White Rhinos I think may be one of the few species that may be legitimately brought back

within like 10 years or so

whether they will ever actually become extinct or not, im not sure

since technically if a northern white rhino baby is born before the 2 ones died, the subspecies never died out

if it is after the fact, the subspecies did die out

and was brought back

so de extinction

[toxic oriole]

And then theres the Pinta Island Tortoise

[flint sable]

so technically, all that seperates it from De-Extinction and bringing the species back from the brink, is just simply if the last two are alive or not

since the current De-Extinction program isnt using the 2 living individuals for breeding, just harvesting eggs

since iirc theres already 30+ viable northern white embryos, all thats required now is artificial insemination into southern white rhinos and pregnancy

and birth ofc

so it could very well happen within 2 years

[toxic oriole]

Backbreeding isnt possible as far as I can tell, since the last two are uhhhh

I keep forgetting what the term is

(Backbreeding the southern-northern rhino hybrids)

[flint sable]

nah that wouldnt work

even then, why bother when we can create pure ones

we already have pure embryos

literally all that needs to occur is artificial insemination and pregnancy

and artificial insemination has actually been sucuessfull in southern white rhinoceroses already before

just with a southern white into a southern white

[toxic oriole]

Hmmm, that Tauros Programe

[flint sable]

the several Aurochs programs have been quite sucuessful

not true De-Extinction but still doing a great job nontheless

and ecologically well on their way to restoring Aurochs

[toxic oriole]

Funny how [[REDACTED]]'s definition of De-Extinction would actually apply perfectly with THAT one
The only one that would fit well, even if it isnt the same

Other than that aside, yeah

(Aurochs for the DLC)

(PLS)

[buoyant zephyr]

I heard that the recently extinct animals pack from Kickstarter would be eventually added to the game

Idk where they said it tho

[toxic oriole]

Imagine if one of the skins for Aurochs, at least either of them, were based off their de-extinct counterparts, the heck cattle and the tauros cattle or something

Then again what difference does it make?

[flint sable]

they said they would like to do a recently extinct pack

they did not say it would have the same roster as the kickstarter one, nor was thylacine explicitly confirmed

[austere sparrow]

Don't fully understand why people are bothering bringing the northern white rhino back, like
It's a subspecies. Just move excess populations of southern white rhino into the area once you've handled whatever was driving them extinct.

Sucks that we lost it and I guess we can use it as a test run for like, Sumatran Rhinos, maybe, but it just seems like a bit of a waste of time

[flint sable]

I mean

at the very least

its less of a waste of time then trying to bring back pleistocene megafauna

[austere sparrow]

Maybe. Pleistocene Megafauna does seem like more of a money siphon, I guess.

And it's kinda validating bumbling fools like Colossal and Jack Horner

Mammoth 🤝 Mars colonies
Being "Like ten years away trust me you guys" for decades now

[open heron]

Lowkey we'll get the colonies before the mammoths

[toxic oriole]

Hehhehehehehne
Dubious species DLC

Includes dubious species

Duh!!!!

[winter willow]

I’ve recently kind of fallen in love with Therizinosaurs, because goddamn they be weird

Weird and big

[late swallow]

If memory serves extinction is classed as no remaining breeding population

[flint sable]

thats functionally extinct

Extinct means that without any doubt that the last remaining individual has died

[late swallow]

I see thank

[flint sable]

and extinct in the wild means that they are well, not found in the wild anymore

so

ye

currently Northern White Rhinoceros are Functionally Extinct

but that hopefully will change

[wary nacelle]

Odontochelys for terrariums

[slim flare]

We need at least one more Djadokhta species

Pinacosaurus and Udanoceratops are my top two

[tidal estuary]

oh pinaco with oviraptor running around !!

[kind oriole]

it's not a pushback post what I made. I just wish that this thread was more useful for the devs. Giving the reasoning why some animals should make it before others is going to make more of an impact that seeing the name Deinonychus repeated hundreds of times. Buzz does not equal popularity, more often than not it indicates controversy; but does it represent desire?

Game development is all about opportunity cost: where do I prioritise my resources on the off chance that I run out and I cannot do everything? This is balanced against what it adds to the game. Sincerily I see Deinonychus losing out - by a small margin - compared to Guanlong, troodontids, Beipiaosaurus, or even Prenocephale

[steep tulip]

Tbf this thread was created as the asylum of pk suggestions
I don't think devs completely dismiss suggestions, but they don't listen to them all that much
It seems to me they have their own plans to follow post ea

Not to mention guanlong troodontids beipiao and preno are all quite different from deino
And tbh I doubt they would chose beipiao over it too

[vivid field]

both of the rhinos were female

[flint sable]

yes

the current plan is to artificially inseminate northern white rhinoceros embryos into a southern white rhinoceros

since we already have 30+ northern white rhino embryos just sitting in cold storage

the two living females wont be involved in the birthing process at all

[slim flare]

It’s not insemination because they’re not using semen to fertilize, they’re implanting already fertilized embryos

[flint sable]

mb, thank you for correcting me

[waxen grail]

Udanoceratops is such a weird and unique Leptoceratopsid, I feel like that’s reason enough to add it.
Plus it could serve as a solitary Ceratopsid since as far as I’m aware there isn’t any evidence for gregariousness like there is for many other Ceratopsids.
It’s also decently sized, about as tall as a human, and comes from the Djadokhta formation which is already in game.

[left spear]

The "problem" with Udano is that due to head shape and jaw structure It can't really have/be an alt, and quite a few people really oppose Udano being it's own thing (why?).

But yes Udano would be based

[waxen grail]

Albertosaurus with a Gorgosaurus alt would also be great additions.
Not only are there no Albertosaurines in game as of yet (They’re the only ones so…), but they’re also relatively well known Dinosaurs that many people like.
Their formations are already in game: Horseshoe Canyon for Albertosaurus and Dinosaur Park for Gorgosaurus
Plus there could be some variation between the two genera when it comes to gregariousness: Albertosaurus would be more social since we’ve found a bone bed with over thirty individuals of all ages and sizes together and a near absence of other species save for the Atrociraptor holotype, while Gorgosaurus would be more solitary in comparison.
To add they are in a size range that differs from other carnivores already in the game, being larger than Dilophosaurus but smaller than Megatheropods like T. rex and Acrocanthosaurus, plus neoteny can’t really be used as a substitute for these two genera. Subadult T. rex and Tarbosaurus look like what they are, not Albertosaurines.

[waxen grail]

I honestly don’t understand why some people would have a problem with unique species.

[feral cedar]

I mean it depends on what it is an alt of

If there's people who say Udanoceratops should be an alt of say, Protoceratops then... yeah they're objectively wrong

I do remember seeing suggestions of recreating the Paraceratherium/Juxia dichotomy by giving Udanoceratops its own "Juxia" equivalent with Leptoceratops

[left spear]

Eh the thing with Lepto is that the jaw and head shape are very different, so the hearing and drinking animations would be very messed up

I am fairly confident tho that they Both could use the proto rig

[austere sparrow]

Udanoceratops is not a bad animal (🏝️ ) but if the devs were to work on an obscure animal that might need its own rig I'd rather they go for something that doesn't already have close relatives ingame

[smoky spear]

Do you think we will get oviraptor alts?

[low bridge]

Possibly no

[austere sparrow]

The reveal picture says "Skin 1" so we'll get multiple skins, at least

No "no brainer" animal comes to mind as far as Oviraptor alts go tho. Would be neat to have one, but I think I can do without (all the other Oviraptoroids are too distinct from it to work as alts, imo)

[smoky spear]

Its crest is dubious

[austere sparrow]

Wouldn't be the first questionable anatomical feature they included

[smoky spear]

So making alts to it wouldnt be hard

[slim flare]

Manlet human

[slim flare]

There’s evidence the skull had a crest

[smoky spear]

I mean crest shape

Its like dilophosaurus

We know it has a crest

We dont know its exact shape

[sharp dock]

wtf udano is massive

[smoky spear]

it can bite peoples hands off

[sharp dock]

hands and heads and legs and torsos

[buoyant zephyr]

Wasn't the crest based on a citipati fossil that was misunderstood for oviraptor?

[low bridge]

Wetlands should go hard if we get Stupendemys, Mourasuchus, Gryphosuchus, Purrusaurus for them

[inner wedge]

guys

where are the community poll results anyway?

[lost hamlet]

Yep, its entirely possible oviraptor was crestless

The classic large crest depiction you see is usually based on citpati. I think the PK ovi crest is a nice middle ground between the two

Im definitely biased towards wanting a citipati alt for ovi, buut theres plenty of small crest/crestless oviraptorids similar to oviraptor in overall body shape that would work well as alts imo!

[tidal estuary]

chat is there an paleo equivelant of gibbons and lemur for pk? i feel like thats what is missing when i look at real zoo

something large enough to use bridges and rope walks

[steep tulip]

Sloth lemurs?

[sharp dock]

the paleo equivalent of a lemur would be an extinct lemur

the paleo equivalent of a gibbon would be an extinct gibbon

[tidal estuary]

shouldve gone more spesific.. i suppose something more akin to the terrarium animal since i dont foresee a full habitat animal climbing

like suminia

or we wait for the arboreal lizard to come

[sharp dock]

actually in terms of lemurs I guess plesiadapis could kinda be considered like a lemur?

plesiadapis is honestly pretty iconic

[low bridge]

Who wants Barinasuchus in game?

I would take one

[smoky spear]

https://tenor.com/view/water-spray-stop-sprinkle-water-gif-12639877674493562634

[tardy whale]

I want Sinosauropteryx in the game.

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-evolution-2-sinosauropteryx-feathered-species-pack-gif-6792894806964675525

[left spear]

Ey don't you pick on Barina like that

[short rover]

I think he’s just referring to EZs antics

And not barina

[left spear]

If that is the case why even bother

Like yes we get it

If It bothers you that much just ignore

[waxen grail]

Champsosaurus and Stangerochampsa would be nice since they are both distinct Crocodilian looking reptiles from the Horseshoe Canyon Formation. Stangerochampsa is an Alligatorid, while Champsosaurus is a Choristodere that looks like a gharial. The formation is already in game, and I want to build a Horseshoe Canyon Formation so yeah.
There are also several named species of Champsosaurus, but preferably we’d at least get one of the ones from Europe as an alt, and there are species from the Dinosaur Park Formation and Hell Creek Formarion too (I’d prefer Dinosaur Park one but whichever other species is more distinct would be the logical choice for a second alt species).

[hollow furnace]

Champsosaurus the goat

Could be either a terrarium or full exhibit, it’s kinda on the edge

[left spear]

Eh go for gigas and make It a full exhibit

[waxen grail]

How large is C. albertensis?

Why do people seem to have only made size comparisons with the smallest species

[hollow furnace]

Average size for a Champsosaurus, probably 1.5-2 meters

Although unsure why you’d go with albertensis over the better described and referenced natator and laramiensis

[waxen grail]

Because Horseshoe Canyon Formation

[hollow furnace]

Eh

[waxen grail]

Canada

[hollow furnace]

DPF is a better choice if you’re going for Canada imo

[waxen grail]

Struthiomimus and Ornithomimus would be good additions too.
Ornithomimus would have both its species as alts of eachother, and Qiupalong, Rativates, or Dromiceiomimus might work as alts for Struthiomimus or another alt of Ornithomimus.
They are rather distinct from Gallimimus, Gallimimus being rather unique among Ornithomimids, and are also rather well known.
They come from the Horseshoe Canyon Formation, which is already in game (Dinosaur Park Formation too but the only one that seems to have been assigned a species there seems to be Rativates). Since Ornithomimus’ type species comes from a formation that probably isn’t in the game and doesn’t really seen to have anything of note, O. sp. from the Dinosaur Park Formation could be used instead.

[silver steeple]

Udano would be fine on the same rig as all the other ceratopsians (yes proto and trike are on the same rig lol)

[waxen grail]

Pretty sure T. rex and Deinocheirus are on the same rig as each other, right?
PK rigs are really versatile

[silver steeple]

Yes they are

[waxen grail]

Do all Theropods share the same rig? I could imagine Gallimimus and Velociraptor would need a slightly different rig due to their feathers (Particularly wings and Velociraptor’s crest).

[silver steeple]

No

There's 2-3 different theropod rigs

Seems to more or less be "small", "medium", and "large" from my understanding

[low bridge]

Pelecanimimus where?

[waxen grail]

Pelecanimimus would be a great addition, though it’s Canada Day so I’ve decided to only suggest Canadian species today. I’ll try to suggest species from continents that have very few species in game at the moment starting tomorrow.

[flint sable]

I think thats correct ye

I know some of the creatures have unique animations but most of their animations are the same

like Torvo doing the upright stance and Velo's jump

[steep tulip]

Won't they introduce a new rig with allo

[left spear]

I don't see why It can use the same as torvo

Really It only needs more arm mobility

[steep tulip]

Torvo uses the big theropod rig
Actually I think there's no medium theropod rig

Dilo uses the small one

From what I've heard allo was going to introduce the medium theropod rig

Could be useful for bary and maybe utah

Actually utah probably gonna use something else

Maybe carno too but idk

[silver steeple]

Torvo got the medium rig with it's TLC

So it'll share that with Allo when the time comes

[steep tulip]

Oh awesome
Didn't know

Or I forgot if they mentioned it

[silver steeple]

Rig =/= animations

Rig is the "bones" that allows for animation

So it's very easy for those that share rigs to share animations

[short rover]

People massively underestimate how much a “rig” encompasses lol

[low bridge]

Will Trex eat guests??

[short rover]

Yes

[plush nacelle]

I am sure there is 6 rigs revealed atm. Small thero, big thero, medium thero, ornithomimid, spino and dromie

[low bridge]

Local Security Force is needed in game

[median relic]

not if I eat them first

[short rover]

Why would dromie not be the small theropod rig

[silver steeple]

Fr lmao

[hollow furnace]

The articulation of the feathers

[plush nacelle]

And sickle claw

[hollow furnace]

We know that velociraptor and Galli have their own unique rigs

[short rover]

Feathers make sense but why would its sickle claw affect the rig?

[plush nacelle]

Because you need to animate it so rig is already slightly different

[silver steeple]

Galli having its own rig is surprising ngl

[hollow furnace]

It’s also got articulation of its wings

[plush nacelle]

Carnotaurus is also going to have unique rig thanks to tiny arms and long stride

[silver steeple]

Seems like an odd thing to need a new rig for

Modified sure

But brand new?

[glass snow]

They comfirmed galli and velo have their own rigs

galli is for the wings and movements or smth like that

velo is similar

if carno is added it probably will have its own rig the abelisaur rig

[silver steeple]

Yes that is what Droid just said

And what prompted my comment

[glass snow]

yeah.

[plush nacelle]

Mammals are fun

So much rigs

[left spear]

If Dilo is small then Utah is aswell

[steep tulip]

I think it either will use the velo rig or something new entirely
Due to the feathers

Unless all 3 skins have like short feathers

[left spear]

Eh i don't see why an upsizes velo rig wouldn't work

[glass snow]

the wing thing will probably be fine

[steep tulip]

Depends how flexible it is
Since proportion wise they are quite different

[glass snow]

as each galli uses the same rig and has different wings on each skin

[steep tulip]

True

[glass snow]

utah will prob have exclusive animations but will probably share the velo rig

Proto shares a rig with trike

deino with rex

[short rover]

Deinocheirus and tyrannosaurus share a rig

[steep tulip]

Oh interesting
Ig they are pretty flexible
Then I kinda expect carno to use medium theropod rig too

[glass snow]

carno really depends on if a medium rig would work on its bones and look good. I could see it going either way really.

torvo looked awkward with large theropod rig so I could see carno if they have too getting an abelisaur rig. Like galli and velo got their own but there was mainly for wings though also proportions

[plush nacelle]

I wonder what rig oviraptor will use

[glass snow]

Oviraptor I’m not sure

maybe it’s own maybe a galli or dromeo rig?

[plush nacelle]

Probably unique rig with animations inspired by pheasants and such

[glass snow]

I can’t wait for oviraptors vocalizations

hope it has silly ones

[slim flare]

So probably no Citipati alt?

Not super interested in it by itself right now considering the major roster holes still left

[glass snow]

No sadly

[short rover]

I doubt it

[low bridge]

Why is Alamosaurus hated?

[left spear]

It's not hated

Simply uneeded

Frankly i don't think we need another gigantic titanosaur

[steep tulip]

Same

We will probably get more
But I prefer something like saltasaurus

[short rover]

Because it’s a large titanosaur from the Cretaceous americas known for possessing osteoderms. All of which argentinosaurus has in the game already

[steep tulip]

I don't hate argentino but I find it really hard to use in my parks

[low bridge]

So i suggest Nigersaurus for Prehistoric Kingdom that would be good

[left spear]

For another Titanosaur go Rapetosaurus

[short rover]

Salta

[short rover]

Yeah I’d like Niger

[feral cedar]

what do you consider to be the holes

[left spear]

Salta too

[feral cedar]

Nigersaurus is cool but it’s one of the lesser “cool” sauropods

[left spear]

I said Rapeto because It being essentially a mini argentino and having a cool almost inevitable formation

Least Mood thing i have heard all week

[short rover]

Heavily disagree, it’s probably my number 3 most wanted sauropod

[left spear]

It's my number 4

[feral cedar]

Like, I think of the three diplodocoids that could be added, it’s easily the one that’d come last

[short rover]

Behind amarga and dippy

[mint creek]

Amarga my most wanted sauropod

[left spear]

I mean like there's too many to name them

[short rover]

Good thing it’s not a diplodocid

[feral cedar]

Diplodocus and Amargasaurus first

[left spear]

And shuno

[short rover]

Oh coid

Nvm

[left spear]

Then Niger

[short rover]

Actually its 4th for me too

Amarga dippy mamench

No stinky Shuno

[left spear]

Huh mamench, quite a bizarre choice

[feral cedar]

see this is exactly what I meant LMAO

Nigersaurus is cool but rarely someone’s first choice

vindication

[left spear]

That doesn't make It less cool, frankly most sauropods are quite cool, so Niger being the fourth doesn't mean anything

[slim flare]

Pachycephalosauridae
Ceratosauria
Troodontidae
Nodosauridae

Do you want me to even start on the avians and everything else?

[low bridge]

What about Tidal Giant?

Paralititan

[feral cedar]

We already have Argentinosaurus

[left spear]

And that's only counting Dinosaurs, even if we only went terrestrial Archosaurs there's still a ridiculously Big ammount of holes

[feral cedar]

touche

[short rover]

Guh

[slim flare]

And tbh, there’s single species still needed

A second Tyrannosaurid, a second Stegosaur, Gigantoraptor, Therizinosaurus, Armagasaurus, so on

[feral cedar]

My nodosaurid wishlist is Sauropelta, Polacanthus, and Edmontonia/Panoplosaurus

[slim flare]

Pretty much yeah

Denversaurus alt…

[feral cedar]

Though I understand Denversaurus is a better alt for Edmontonia

[left spear]

I mean It is, how many people put Mamench amin their top 5 sauropods (and no JP fans coming into the game only knowing like 6 sauropods don't count)

[slim flare]

There’s more than 6 sauropods?

[short rover]

I don’t think it’s bizarre at all, it’s extremely uniquely built, likely tail club, relatively well known, unique time and place

[short rover]

lol

[feral cedar]

I like panoplo’s name, I wish it was better known

And I had good reference on how it’s restored

[slim flare]

Camerasaurus
Bronchosaurus
Titanosaurus
Saltysaurus
Platosaurus
Spiky one

[left spear]

Hey only the JP/JW franchise already has like 3, half their work is already done

[short rover]

Amazingsaurus is the spiky one

[feral cedar]

Seriously though, say Panoplosaurus out loud, it’s so fun

[late swallow]

Amarga my beloved

[left spear]

Add Niger because of jwe

[late swallow]

GEN

I love his stupid little face

He's a little hoover

[feral cedar]

Wouldn’t one troodontid be enough

[slim flare]

Yes

[feral cedar]

Troodon itself as of recent events

Ngl ngl

Troodon formosus/sp. with Saurornithoides alt

[slim flare]

Never say that again

[feral cedar]

Troodon

formosus

[late swallow]

Slash

[slim flare]

(Invalid)

[feral cedar]

not anymore

neotype baby

[slim flare]

Literally is

It’s literally invalid

[late swallow]

what even does sp. mean

[feral cedar]

Says who

[slim flare]

The ICZN

[late swallow]

Sauce

[feral cedar]

Did they already rule on it?

[slim flare]

Neotypes need to be petitioned to the ICZN and approved

They haven’t even submitted a petition yet

It’s fucking invalid

[toxic oriole]

Welp, rip Stenonychosaurus in the future, if they do approve of it

[left spear]

Idk why you reminded me of this

[late swallow]

Mate don't get so pressed

[short rover]

Stenon with saurornithoides alt and an arctic inspired skin my beloved

[steep tulip]

Factual

[toxic oriole]

New idea, a Dubious Species DLC for PK

[slim flare]

And even when they do submit the petition, it can be rejected. There’s a good possibility it will, really.

[toxic oriole]

Includes Dubious and Invalid Species

[steep tulip]

🍅

[short rover]

We already have plenty in base game

[left spear]

Yeah just 2 stenons with a Troodontid sp from prince creek

[late swallow]

This does infact give dumb bitch energy, which I radiate greatly

[short rover]

Nah saurornithoides alt

[toxic oriole]

As far as I'm aware theres... Three or something?

[late swallow]

S. maximus

[toxic oriole]

Juxia, Ugrun, uhhhhhh

[short rover]

Ugruu, sauro (soon), uhhh what else

[short rover]

Juxia isn’t invalid?

[toxic oriole]

Oh

I assumed it was

[steep tulip]

Why everyone keep saying juxia is invalid

[toxic oriole]

Didnt know

[short rover]

Didn’t you say that the other day too

[late swallow]

Apparently it's not?

[short rover]

Or am I thinking of someone else

[toxic oriole]

Someone else

[late swallow]

It was me

[short rover]

Why do people assume it’s invalid lmao

[late swallow]

I'm a certified idiot

That's my defence

[left spear]

Fragmentary

[late swallow]

(It also looks like it would be)

[left spear]

But far from invalid

[toxic oriole]

2 dubious species in the game so far
Whats the harm in adding more dubious species?

[short rover]

90% of dinosauria invalid sigh

[late swallow]

Icky

Allo slander

[slim flare]

I was shot twice, why is getting shot even more a bad thing?

[glass snow]

almost every dinosaur species I guess is invalid then

[short rover]

How is it slander

[late swallow]

Oh yeah we're getting A. Europaeus and the 3 Sauro

[toxic oriole]

I don't see how that answers the question

[slim flare]

All the worthless ones yeah

[left spear]

Don't expect that much selfawareness from a paleofan

Probably one of the most biased communities i'm in tbh

[steep tulip]

Not even fragmentary
We have a good idea of its anatomy

[left spear]

Huh, was It the black Paracer that is fragmentary?

I swear one of the trio was

[toxic oriole]

Nomen Dubium DLC:
Dakotaraptor, Titanosaurus, Troodon, Crichtonsaurus, Becklespinax

[left spear]

No

I refuse

No draco