Community Species Suggestions

[dense flame]

this dude was also found in serbia

apparently...he was.

[dusky obsidian]

dang

i forgot to suggest megalosaurus

dangit

updated again to ahve megalosaurus

cant forget abt him

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I suggest Ceratogaulus aka Horned Gopher

Cute little fella

[dusky obsidian]

i dont really like exhibit animals tbh

in this game

like

why cant i make them walk around anywhere i want

sad

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Devs love Peltep??

[vivid field]

Cotylorhyncus but it’s only för April Fool’s Day

[waxen grail]

My favourite Dinosaurs (And therefore Dinosaurs I’d like to see in the game eventually) are Gallimimus (Coming this update, can’t wait), Albertosaurus (Would work well with a Gorgosaurus alt), Atrociraptor (Dromaeosaurus would be a better choice since Atrociraptor has a whole one fossil), and Latenivenatrix and/Stenonychosaurus/Troodon (Latenivenatrix, Stenonychosaurus/Troodon, and Saurornithoides would make a good alt trio. Idc if Latenivenatrix is valid, it can be like Ugrunaaluk)

[grand lake]

We should get carbonemys 🗣️🔥🔥

[dusky obsidian]

replace it with stupendemys

largest freshwater turtle ever

added protostega to my list

megalochelys would also be a good pick for giant turtles

[woven hollow]

Ninjemys, because pleistocene Sahul has such unique megafauna, and it's literally the Ninja Turtle

[deep lake]

A n z u

We need

A. N. Z. U

[zenith oracle]

erm actually its a caiman

[slim flare]

Which are members of what family?

[zenith oracle]

crocodilians?

[slim flare]

Alligatoridae

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Meiolania also

What about Pachystrutio??

Giraffe sized ostrich

[dusky obsidian]

meiolania is eh

dont like it that much

not a huge fan of it

[low bridge]

What u think about Pachystrutio is he good for something that would thrive in savanna map?

[dusky obsidian]

yea

pachystruthio would be good

he would add alot of life

[low bridge]

Yes

[dusky obsidian]

im updating the list again rn

its gona include alot more

like alot

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Aepyornis Maximus (Elephant Bird)

These ones u your list??

Lollll

[dusky obsidian]

?

also dont suggest me anything bc im only adding my personal favs

[low bridge]

Okey

So i go play dying light

Bye

[dusky obsidian]

animals i would like to see in this game p2:

Mesozoic:
Chilantaisaurus
Cryolophosaurus
Gigantoraptor
Irritator
Ostafrikasaurus
Desmatosuchus
beelzebufo
Ptychodus
Parapuzosia
Temnodontosaurus
Tusoteuthis
Hybodus
Mawsonia
Quetzalqoatlus
Alioramus
Daspletosaurus
Borealopelta
Guanlong
Stegouros
Miragaia
Paranthodon
Jiangjunosaurus
Yingshanosaurus
Qianzhousaurus
Raptorex
Ichthyovenator
Siamosaurus
Cristatusaurus
Gorgosaurus
Pycnonemosaurus
Majungasaurus
Taurovenator
Sinraptor
Yangchuanosaurus
Siamotyrannus
Metriacanthosaurus
Megalosaurus
Sarcosuchus
Magnapaulia
Saurolophus
Excalibosaurus
Eurhinosaurus
Shonisaurus
Shastasaurus
Plesiosuchus
Dakosaurus
Tanystropheus
Mastodonsaurus
Cyclotosaurus
Hylaeobatis
Champsosaurus
Kronosaurus
Pliosaurus
Kaiwhekea
Deltadromaeus
Elaphrosaurus
Mosasaurus
Prognathodon
Globidens
Cretalamna
Megalolamna
Machimosaurus
Alamosaurus
Koolasuchus
Siderops
Tenontosaurus
Carnufex
Onchopristis
Schizorhiza
Dubreuillosaurus
Elosuchus
Udanoceratops
Shringasaurus
Thalassodromeus
Tupuxuara
Tupandactylus
Lufengosaurus
Liopleurodon
Monquirasaurus
Fasolasuchus
Teratosaurus
Xinjiangtitan
Mamenchisaurus

Paleozoic:
Rhizodus
Helicoprion
Parahelicoprion
Campyloprion
Inostrancevia
Jonkeria
Anteosaurus
Dunkleosteus
Jaekelopterus
Scutosaurus
Dimetrodon
Lycosuchus
Megawhaitsia
Prionosuchus
Cladoselache
Meganeura
Endoceras
Aegirocassis
Anomalocaris
Orthacanthus
Edestus
Ornithoprion
Saivodus
Dracopristis
Xenacanthus
Stethacanthus
Barbclabornia
Bungartius
Heterosteus
Onychodus
Pulmonoscorpius
Pterygotus
Hibbertopterus
Tiktaalik
Arthropleura
Tullimonstrum
Aquilolamna
Archosaurus
Tappenosaurus
Titanophoneus
Westralicthys
Eastmanosteus
Cobelodus
Edaphosaurus
Titanichthys
Dinichthys
Diplognathus
Amplectobelua
Aztecia
Moradisaurus

had to split the message bc it was too long

here is part1

[trail gyro]

I don't like it

[lean hound]

why

[trail gyro]

I just don't like it

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Let me show everyone perfect mammals list for Prehistoric Kingdom:
Eremotherium, Megacerops, Aepycamelus, Titanotylopus, Camelops, Toxodon, Palaeoloxodon, Stegotetrabelodon, Platybelodon, Arsinoitherium, Embolotherium, Mixotoxodon, Menoceras, Dinofelis, Ancylotherium, Megantereon, Hippo Gorgops, Agriotherium, Arctodus,Arctotherium, Daeodon, Stenomylus, Syndyoceras, Synthetoceras, Kyptoceras, Prolibytherium, Giraffokeryx, Bramatherium, Discokeryx, Capromeryx, Miracinonyx, Xenosmilus, Homotherium, Amphimachairodus, Dinocrocuta, Pachycrocuta, Cave Hyena

Now let hate appear at this

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And Syncerus, Pelorovis

[low bridge]

For suggesting rly good mammals that definitely be awesome and great in game

[dusky obsidian]

Bro js bc you dont like it doesnt mean it cant get added

Moshops would be a nice addition

[wary nacelle]

me after suggesting every ichnogenera ever

https://tenor.com/view/muehehehe-gif-4405977563994366182

[brave pier]

Me when Brontopodus sp. is not in the game

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-raccoon-rocket-raccoon-vol-3-rocket-racoon-rocket-raccoon-crying-rocket-raccoon-cries-gif-6998755080350071650

[feral cedar]

ngl I think that PK should pseudo-replace Oviraptor with Citipati

I say pseudo because Citipati could be the main one and the third skin is an ontogeny-fueled alternate genus for Oviraptor

This also frees up a slot for another small oviraptorosaur, which could be given to something like Caudipteryx or Avimimus

[slim flare]

Maybe

[cinder python]

Stegouros an ankylosaur that has a weird club tall or thagomizer and a thin head for an ankylosaur plus we need more small Dino’s

[tough marsh]

Trochosuchus and Brithopus are considered Nomen dubium if i may suggest Titanophoneus and Lycosuchus to replace those?

[shell quest]

I would recommend taking on of Stegouros bigger cousins like Kunbarrasaurus or Antarctopelta sine Stegouros is really small

i just think 1.5 meters is too small 1.5 is not that small

[cinder python]

I pick Stegourus because of it thagomizer

Plus it can just go to terrarium

[shell quest]

yeah i would like a terrarium Stegourus

[cinder python]

And overall, it’s just a very unique Ank

[shell quest]

but i will just add that both Kunbarrasaurus, Antarctopelta and patagopelta also has the tail thingy

[cinder python]

We need more Anks anyway

[shell quest]

yes

[hollow furnace]

its not known if Kunbarrasaurus or Patagopelta have a macuahuitl

[shell quest]

two is not enough

[hollow furnace]

We only have direct evidence from Stego and Antarctopelta

[flint sable]

id like Meiolania better

[cinder python]

Stegouros is very complete and very unique and who wouldn’t want to see a terrarium Ank

[desert jacinth]

"Caihong" refers to Caihong juji, a small, bird-like dinosaur species discovered in China, named for its iridescent, rainbow-like feathers. The name, which translates to "rainbow with the big crest" in Mandarin, reflects the dinosaur's likely vibrant plumage. Caihong lived during the Late Jurassic period and is notable for its asymmetrical tail feathers, which may have been used for display or even rudimentary flight control.

[final quest]

pachystruthio the giant ostrich and gallimimus would be the best of buddies they weigh roughly the same

[steep tulip]

I don't want it
Its like only a partial femur
Way better extinct ratites to put in the game

[slim flare]

Just do Genyornis

[sharp dock]

oomfstrich

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So i give u Elephant Bird

[steep tulip]

Elephant bird would be pretty great

[hollow flower]

Dromornis + Genyornis alt I think is a pretty good combo personally

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What u think of Giant Cuban Owl or Giant Stork?

[flint sable]

Ornimegalonyx would be a cool addition

not sure about the Cuban Giant Stork tho

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Giant Marabou Stork from Flores Island

This one

[flint sable]

ohh that giant stork

would be cool

not as cool as the giant owl IMO

[low bridge]

I take Giant Cuban Owl because i want Cuban Sandwich with it

A Pachycephalosaur giraffe is good addition also

Discokeryx

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Moa should have S&N island giant Moa, upland moa, little Bush Moa, Heavy Footed Moa

Change my mind

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I give a Tarchia

😶‍🌫️

[cinder python]

it is good for the Ank army

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Euoplocephalus is great??

Or Anodontosaurus better?

[cinder python]

Euoplocephalus

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Great choice

[plush nacelle]

Pinacosaurus

[low bridge]

Another great

Now let's move to Nodosaurids

[cinder python]

We need Crichtonsaurus named after one of my favorite authors

[low bridge]

He is NOT REAL so sorry

N.D he is

[plush nacelle]

Gastonia

One of the few known social ankylosaurs

[cinder python]

well PK is adding Saurophaganax and the game has Ugrunaaluk

[low bridge]

Let me take classic Polacanthus, Edmontonia, Borealopelta, Gastonia

[low bridge]

Game don't need more Not real dinos

This is Prehistoric Kingdom not Fiction Kingdom

[cinder python]

Where dose it say that Crichtonsaurus is not real?

[hollow furnace]

Critchonsaurus is a dubious genus, as the holotype is undiagnostic

Critchonpelta is valid however

[cinder python]

Good enough

[hollow furnace]

neither are really that interesting to add though, beyond being named after Micheal Critchon

[glass snow]

gastonia would be cool

[cinder python]

That was really the only reason

[plush nacelle]

I believe being named after author of the jurassic park is better reason for it be in JWE than in PK

[low bridge]

Is Palaeoloxodon Recki, Antiqqus and Namadicus+ Falconeri needed

More= fun

I love this game so much

[cinder python]

On to another Thyreophora, Miragaia I'm pretty sure It got a name change can some one tell me that if it did

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It is not real

[cinder python]

Elaborate

[cinder python]

If you were going to say it's Dacentrurus that is what I was asking for the new name

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I don't say this

[wary nacelle]

Here Baron comes with another dinosaur with 2-3 bones.
Today’s low bone dinosaur is…
Vectiraptor! The raptor from the Isle of Wight

[cinder python]

Dacentrurus

[waxen grail]

Dacentrurus with a Miragaia alt would probably make sense.

[sage gull]

Leptocyon

[vast raptor]

Ulemosaurus, a Mid Permian Therapsid like Moschops from Russia.

[dusky obsidian]

eh

feel like its way too similar to moshops

in appearance

[vast raptor]

Is Moschops confirmed to end up in game?

[silver steeple]

No but if you're gonna add a therapsid like them it might as well just be moschops tbh

[vast raptor]

Well, there is always Estemmenosuchus or Struthiocephalus as an option then.

[desert flame]

Permian animals is need in PK.

[hollow flower]

I like the one on the right

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Is Bison Antiqqus good pick??

[shell quest]

Isaberrysaura

[hollow furnace]

EZ, this is the 10th time you've asked about Bison antiqqus

[feral cedar]

And many other animals too

[short rover]

BOS antiquus

[outer moth]

I'm pretty sure Bos is already coming

[short rover]

Which again, is a subspecies

Not an actual species

[low bridge]

Ok

[feral cedar]

Actually how would they handle prehistoric bison species vs. the possibility of aurochs

[short rover]

No idea tbh

Alts seem unlikely

[hollow furnace]

probably two different models

[feral cedar]

But different species under the same genus in-game?

[low bridge]

What about Bovine Rusingoryx?

[hollow furnace]

With the new way alt species are handled, it doesn't really matter as much

[hollow furnace]

Probably

Doesn't really have any issue, seeing as different species are as seperated as different genera are

[feral cedar]

Bos priscus/latifrons/primigenius?

[hollow furnace]

2 skins for latifrons, 1 skin for priscus, 1-3 skins for primigenius presumably

[feral cedar]

hmmm

I guess that tracks

I mean maybe bison are added for free

That solves the issue tbh

[low bridge]

Aurochs is premium animal likely

[feral cedar]

cause imagine it was only 1 skin for aurochs, you buy an animal with only one skin

and the other 2 - 3 skins are another DLC theoretically

[slim flare]

BOS BISON antiquus

[low bridge]

Bison maybe Basic game animal

[feral cedar]

I mean I'd personally just suggest using Bos and Bison

Cut the "middle man" out

[short rover]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-mr-potato-head-yeah-yeah-yeah-whatever-whatever-toy-story2-gif-18580602

Subspecies aren’t real anyways

[short rover]

Bison isn’t a genus

At least not a valid one

[plain knoll]

Could Bison occidentalis be added even though it survived into the Holocene?

[feral cedar]

Turn Bison as a genus/subgenus into its own slot, and Bos stays as an aurochs thing with 3 skins

[slim flare]

All bison are probably the same species anyways

[slim flare]

Bruh

[short rover]

Guh?

[feral cedar]

🗿

[slim flare]

Yes

It’s unfortunately pretty well supported

[short rover]

First I’m hearing of this

[feral cedar]

So what, latifrons is just an ecotype that is giant and long-horned?

[slim flare]

Yes

[low bridge]

Let's take Bison Priscus, Latifrons for base game and put Aurochs into paid Dlc

[short rover]

There’s no such thing as “Bison”

[slim flare]

I mean there is such thing but its a junior synonym

[hollow furnace]

seems most likely

[feral cedar]

yes there is

[hollow furnace]

Unless the bison are in a different DLC

[feral cedar]

[short rover]

Looks like Bos to me…

[slim flare]

The boson…

[short rover]

Bos boson

[hollow furnace]

When are we getting Boson higgs?

[slim flare]

Bison higgsi

[feral cedar]

yo Ha-Satan

[low bridge]

I take Sivatherium, Stegotetrabelodon, Dinofelis, Ancylotherium and put them in exclusive Cenozoic animal pack change my mind

[feral cedar]

quick question

If all bison species might be the same then are they all collectively Bos bison

or is there an older name that gets priority lol

[short rover]

So wait this implies European and American bison are also just eco types of one another as well

You don’t capitalize the species name

[low bridge]

Okkkkk

[slim flare]

Bos bison or B. bonasus
Both are from Linnaeus, 1758

I go with B. bison but idk how the ICZN would rule it

[low bridge]

Let Add to game Astigmatisaura

[short rover]

Why

[slim flare]

More like both ecotypes of steppe bison

[feral cedar]

EZ... dude, I think you need to work on your "Read the room" skills

[short rover]

Hm

[low bridge]

Perfect for disease update

[short rover]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[feral cedar]

This thread is meant for suggestions but you just sort of throw out the most obscure and random animals in the middle of other conversations

[slim flare]

We Need Deinotherium ??

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Just to eat it

[feral cedar]

I'm talking about stuff like this

[short rover]

Wha

[feral cedar]

Astigmasaura is a rebbachisaur named this very year but like... Nigersaurus

[low bridge]

Guests looks hungry in game

[short rover]

Wha

[slim flare]

What if he’s faking for attention?

[feral cedar]

Nigersaurus is a better choice. More iconic, its formation is already in-game with Ouranosaurus...

[short rover]

Have you considered Sivatherium or Megantereon?

[low bridge]

No im joking with these new described rebbachi he has wild genus name after all

🤷🤷

[slim flare]

Idk seems on-brand for you

[low bridge]

🤷🤷

[feral cedar]

Megantereon is not really needed with Smilodon in the game, and there are better machairodonts to add

[short rover]

Yes I know I was joking

[feral cedar]

Oh

lol

Sivatherium is decent but I think Prolibytherium is it... but decenter

[slim flare]

We’re roleplaying EZ

[low bridge]

Idfc

[feral cedar]

(No this is not a joke)

Awesome animal

[low bridge]

Tdhm

🤷🤷

[slim flare]

Telecentric Digital Holographic Microscopy?

[feral cedar]

Today, Hesperornis matters

[low bridge]

Lol

Today Apato need fix in behavior

[feral cedar]

how so

[left spear]

The water thing? Honestly It may be intentional

[deep lake]

sorry but i cant stop
A N Z U

[quick ore]

would a Pantodont be a good inclusion, like Barylambda? I feel like the paleocene is underrated and will likely be underrepresented

[hollow furnace]

I would like a pantodont, it's not really a needed choice but it would be cool

[quick ore]

my thoughts exactly

are there any must have paleocene species?

[hollow furnace]

Champsosaurus, but that's not a strictly paleocene animal and I am very biased

[feral cedar]

Barylambda is to early extinct mammals what Struthiosaurus is to nodosaurids; it's not a bad inclusion by any means, but it's not one you'd include unless you're giving EVERYTHING rep, y'know?

[quick ore]

yeah fair

[quick ore]

wait I'm stupid, Titanoboa, duh

[feral cedar]

If you want nodosaurs you only really need like a panoplosaurin and a polacanthine, maybe a Sauropelta for good measure and you're done

Struthiosaurus COULD be added if you want that "other" branch of nodosaurids

[hollow furnace]

Oh damn it's paleocene

I always thought it was Eocene lol

[quick ore]

ye it makes a lot of sense as a paleocene species though

the paleocene/eocene was basically the triassic of the cenozoic

a lot of weirdness happening

[plush nacelle]

Sinonyx. People still cant remove this animal out of andrewsarchus

[feral cedar]

I'd suggest Gastornis since if you wanna 🤓 it up it has fossils dating to the Paleocene

Mesonychids are neat huh

[left spear]

I didn't even know those wretched beasts existed, i think coryphodon would be most fitting size wise

[left spear]

Nah champo is based and a great addition no matter how much bias is in the suggestion there is, i really like the Saurian desing.

Also Damm It has a wide-ass temperoral range

Okay nvm it's not that Big just checked, Damm you outdated hellspawn known as spanish paleowikipedia.

[hollow furnace]

depend on the species, gigas got to 3+ meters but the cretaceous species were 1-2 meters

[left spear]

i meant the temporal range lol

[willow mason]

With the immense size variation between Dimetrodon species I think something that could be a really fun idea is having Dimetrodon be both a normal and terrarium species

Ex. Dimetrodon grandis would be a normal species while Dimetrodon teutonis would be a terrarium species

[hollow furnace]

based, join me in my Dimetrodon terrarium campaign

[cinder python]

Not a Dimetrodon but still needed it's Platyhystrix

[silver steeple]

Idk why so many of y'all say that any given taxa is "needed"

We don't need any specific taxa more than another

[fresh ember]

TBF, I wouldn't mind Platyhystrix, but not in the sense of being "needed," per se. I just think it's a neat choice.

[slim flare]

I think we need like Carnotaurus over like Daspletosaurus

By “needed” it goes on a chart where the X axis is uniqueness (visual and taxonomic), and the Y axis is popularity.

Species that are closest to the origin with low uniqueness and popularity are pretty clearly not needed as much as one that scores way better

I don’t find this concept hard to grasp nor controversial

[flint sable]

coty....

also what Ha-Satan said

[lean hound]

[low bridge]

Eh Paraphysornis is good lesser terror not well known like Fellow Titanis and Kelenken???

[lean hound]

No way you just called Kelenken and Titanis not well known

[low bridge]

I called Paraphysornis not well known

My english is fcked

Sorrryyyy

[hollow flower]

I suppose it all matters from perspective

[low bridge]

We should also have small terror bird maybe Psilopterus

[plush nacelle]

Mesembriornis is the best

For smaller one

[low bridge]

Devs must approve this

Ofc

[sage gull]

Cronopio Dentiacutus
(Saber-toothed squirrel)

[civic terrace]

We need a couple of these bad boys.

[low bridge]

Helladotherium, Samotherium, Bramatherium, Discokeryx, Sivatherium, Giraffokeryx

Best ones guyssss

[quick ore]

if we need anything it is just more artiodactyls period

it's funny how we only have one in game rn

[low bridge]

Artiodactyls are neat after all

[low bridge]

A Megaloceros but Sinomegaceros is also good

😶‍🌫️

[quick ore]

I would rather have Candiacervus

[low bridge]

Now that is turning heads

[quick ore]

as a Megaloceros relative

[low bridge]

Yeah

What about a Camelid?

[outer moth]

You know, I have got to agree with you on that one

More ungulates would be cool
I myself prefer mesonychids

[low bridge]

Perissodactyls have Thunder Beasts in family

[quick ore]

mesonychids are great but I am mostly talking about other herbivorous artiodactyls

since they would make for great "filler" species

[outer moth]

True there
If that's the case, I gotta go for the Camelids as well

[quick ore]

Stenomylus >>>

[outer moth]

You know what's really freaky?

[low bridge]

Agate Springs are good

[quick ore]

what is

[outer moth]

There could've been a timeline where elephants could've gone extinct during the camel golden age, resulting in sauropod-like camels
Just as a fun hypothetical

[quick ore]

I mean there were still some massive camels in prehistory regardless

[outer moth]

Most camels were already rivalling elephants, so it woulda been possible

[low bridge]

Few of them

[outer moth]

But yeah, I personally like Titanylophus

[quick ore]

also I doubt elephants would go extinct that easily, they have only really suffered as a result of us

[plush nacelle]

Dawn horse or bust

[quick ore]

Eohippus or Propaleotherium?

[plush nacelle]

Any

[low bridge]

Half weight of an African Elephant

This camel weighted

[plush nacelle]

It wouldn't happen. The moment elephants entered eurasia everything had to adapt to their presence lmao

Gomphotherium was ridiculous

[low bridge]

Is that Aepycamelus sauropod like Camel

[outer moth]

I know, that's why it's only a silly hypothetical

Just a crackpot thought

[low bridge]

Big fella

[plush nacelle]

In theory both animals are from different families. Not sure how palaeotheres are supposed to look like outside similar to horses

[outer moth]

But yeah, this is literally just a camel from the JJBA universe

[plush nacelle]

Propalaeotherium has crazy good fossil record tho

[quick ore]

putting this in a zoo with a bunch of australian species as a reference to the invasive camels roaming the outback

[quick ore]

also fairly iconic thanks to WWB

would be able to have more than just itself from its formation too if Gastornis gets added

[plush nacelle]

And leptictidium

[low bridge]

Which extinct camel was the biggest?

[outer moth]

Titanylopus afaik

[quick ore]

what is the consensus on what Leptictidium even looked like now?

[plush nacelle]

Ya, but propalaeotherium is hype. It could have spotted babes like tapirs

[quick ore]

Was it a saltator?

[low bridge]

What u think about Rusingoryx?

Crazy bovid from Africa

[plush nacelle]

Wwb depiction is good enough

[quick ore]

well so long as it is still accurate is what I mean

``One of the mysteries about Leptictidium is whether it moved by running or by jumping. Because there are very few completely bipedal mammals, it is difficult to find an appropriate living model to compare it with. If the kangaroo is used, it is probable that Leptictidium hopped along with its body tilted forward, using its tail as a counterweight.[7] On the other hand, elephant shrews combine both types of locomotion; they usually move on four legs, but they can run on two legs to flee from a predator.[6] Studies of the bone structure of Leptictidium have yielded contradicting information: its leg articulations appear too weak to have supported the shock of repeated jumps, but its long feet were obviously adapted for jumping rather than running.

Kenneth D. Rose compared the species L. nasutum with the leptictid Leptictis dakotensis. L. dakotensis had a series of traits which show it was a running animal which sometimes moved by jumping. Despite the marked similarities between Leptictis and Leptictidium, there are certain differences in their skeletons which prevent the example of Leptictis from being used to determine with certainty the way Leptictidium moved: the most important being that, unlike Leptictis, the tibia and the fibula of Leptictidium were not fused together.[9] ``

[quaint plank]

I am once again asking you for platybelodon

[low bridge]

Who?

[cinder python]

This thing

What potential nature saw in this thing I don’t know

[low bridge]

What u think about Hippo ?

Is he good?

3.9T hippo from Africa and Europe likely

I'd love to see Mapu, Giga, Conca, Meraxes in game after full release

[outer crater]

Platy mogs

[vivid field]

Dunkleosteus.

[vivid field]

Dacenturus would be sick

[woven hollow]

They shrunkel the dunkel

[quick ore]

EZ why do you keep doing this

do you forget what people tell you

I would say that it's sloppy but you're clearly putting in extra effort to capitalize the species name

[runic tiger]

crazy take but one capital letter is not that big of a deal

didn't realize we where being graded on grammer in a videogame discord server with an international player base

crazy!

[hollow flower]

True

[toxic oriole]

Later................................................

In all seriousness, theys gotta add their full aquatic system first!

And it aint the priority right now!

[slim flare]

Old

[toxic oriole]

Dunkleosteus got another size revision?

Let me guess, theys a damn pancake now

[desert flame]

If new elephant are added to PK, they will likely be of a distinctive appearance.

[sharp dock]

goldfish dunk is also wrong imo tbh

[left spear]

I think rn it's like 5-6 meters long, so around average GWS size

Far from the 9-10 meter titán but still quite big

[steep tulip]

The paper seems to have been criticised by ichthyologists afaik
Maybe we will get a rebuttal, but not too informed on it
But the recon used in the paper sucked ass

[kind oriole]

I did not know about Samotherium! Would be a fun European animal to have next Sivatherium. I think they could be within the bounds of alt species, given how difficult it was for Megaloceros to get ontogeny right

[low bridge]

I mean certain species of hippo not to confess with Extant ones

[low bridge]

He was a big dude

[low bridge]

Is Eremotherium a good pick ? Second Giant Sloth

Besides Megatherium

[vivid field]

i know, but PK would still make it look awesome. Also, i kinda feel like the goldfish is also too small

[vivid field]

also there are MANY debates on the resize change so PK could potentially go for something in the middle of goldfish and big shark, if they’d do it

[vivid field]

actually i REALLY want Dacenturus now

[vivid field]

i know :< i just want to make an area for the dunk with an underwater viewing gallery that says “do not tap on glass.”

[quick ore]

ok but then you could just say "Hippopotamus gorgops"

[digital pendant]

I dont think its worth getting pedantic over a capitalization of a letter

[cinder ember]

Ornitholestes

[shell quest]

Any crocodile

[low bridge]

Just Kapro, Barina, Quinkana, Mourasuchus, Gryphosuchus, Rhamphosuchus, Stomatosuchus, Purrusaurus, Euthecodon

[runic tiger]

Stomato my beloved

[low bridge]

Every croc i suggested is worth having him in game so much

Mourasuchus should share it's rig with Spinosaurids like Bary and Spino bc they are Piscivore like Mourasuchus

Ouch

Guys change my mind about this

[low bridge]

Not yours i like him but i also like Purrusaurus, Mourasuchus

[lean hound]

what

[low bridge]

He is Piscivore like them

Likes fish

[lean hound]

so ursus should also share a rig with them?

[low bridge]

I talk about Mourasuchus not a bear after all

🤷

[lean hound]

that's not answering my question

With the logic of moura sharing a rig with spino and bary because of diet ursus, deinocheirus and dilophosaurus should also share a rig with them

[low bridge]

That is fcked loll

[low bridge]

No ursus is not Reptile

[lean hound]

But it is a piscivore

and you said spino, bary and moura should share a rig because they're piscivore

[quick ore]

this doesnt make any sense their models look nothing alike

piscivory doesnt make rigs more similar

that's like saying paraceratherium should share a rig with the sauropods

[lean hound]

probably not the greatest of comparisons

[quick ore]

ok its like

its like saying daeodon should share a rig with acrocanthosaurus because they both eat meat

EZ you understand what a model rig is right

[low bridge]

Moura should be in its own rig

[lean hound]

I doubt moura would get added before something more popular like deinosuchus

but yes it shouldn't share a rig with a theropod and if there weren't any already get a new croc rig

[low bridge]

Purru is next croc beast after Deino to be Great in game

Or Sarcosuchus

Idkkkkkkk

Which one is better

[lean hound]

I'd prefer purru over deino tbh

It's another cenezoic and I think it looks more interesting

deino just feels like a resized gator

[low bridge]

Extinct Giants Dlc with
Megalochelys
Elephant Bird
"Varanus Priscus"
Argentavis/Pelargornis

[low bridge]

Purru is too good

🤷

[flint sable]

fairly certain it does

[quick ore]

damn!

[low bridge]

How many Moa species we need in game??

[plush nacelle]

Paraceratherium rig is unique. Just fairly useless outside para

[quick ore]

i would prefer 3 moa species but we at least need 2

[sharp dock]

I think all of them is the bare minimum

[hollow furnace]

Devs need to discover at least one new moa species and add it

[low bridge]

Hf Moa??

[tidal estuary]

I was going to say Moropus but it could probably run

is there any other potential unique rigs?

Sivatherium

[low bridge]

Embolotherium where?

[plush nacelle]

Chalicotherium

I really doubt we would get more than one lol

[low bridge]

Ancylotherium a savanna dwelling chalicothere would be good addition

[steep tulip]

Ambulocetus maybe?
Could share rigs with crocodilians and kin, but not sure how flexible rigs are, and ambulocetus has quite different proportions

[vivid field]

YES AMBULOCETUS PLEASE

[twilit tartan]

thylacoleo?

i cant think of anything else that could work with ornimegalonyx either

[cinder python]

Procoptodon

[somber osprey]

Daeodon (me):

[dusky obsidian]

Daeodon is already getting added

[hollow furnace]

Technically not confirmed but almost certainly

[quick ore]

would Daeodon babies be piglets, calves, or cubs?

[dusky obsidian]

It kinda is since there was an ss of daeodon in pk but its quite old now

[plush nacelle]

Tbh old PK mammals were looking good already with updated fur shader

If I look at something like miragaia/ guanlong and compare it to any mammal difference is like between night and day lol

[lean hound]

An animal being planted back then doesn’t mean anything now

[silver steeple]

I wouldn't say it doesn't mean anything

A large chunk of the known planned animals are from the original 50 list

[lean hound]

Yeah but I doubt it has much effect on the roster now

All I meant was just because it was in the old 50 doesn’t mean it’s confirmed for the future

[silver steeple]

I didn't say that

I would say there's generally a higher chance though

[low bridge]

Jet sized Seabird Pelargornis would Fit nicely in Prehistoric Kingdom

[lean hound]

I didn't say you said that

[plush nacelle]

I genuinely think most, in not all species from original 50 will come back

[short rover]

I mean most of the original 50 are already in so yeah

[low bridge]

Prehistoric Freaks Dlc idea :
Dinocrocuta
Eobasileus
Platybelodon
Megacerops

[smoky spear]

i have no idea what any of these plebs are except the last one so they arent getting in

[low bridge]

Find and u gonna know everything

[left spear]

Dinococruta is pretty cool

Only hyena worth making It in too

[low bridge]

What about this biggest cheetah ever??

190 kg fella

Or meh

American Cheetah better

I give an Wetland Freaks Dlc idea with Purrusaurus, Mourasuchus, Gryphosuchus, Stupendemys

[left spear]

Miracinonyx?

Cool guy

[low bridge]

No not him i mean

Acinonyx Pleistonicaeus

Miracinonyx was a bit smaller than him

[lean hound]

except that's not a cheetah

[short rover]

You don’t know what platybelodon is?

[short rover]

I don’t see how dinocrocuta would be considered a “freak”

[lean hound]

yeah it's just a large hyena

[low bridge]

Size?

[lean hound]

I'd understand if it was as tall as a human or something but cmon

[plush nacelle]

Sad cave hyena noises. Cave trio must be completed

[short rover]

That goes for like so many prehistoric animals tho

I wouldn’t call it freakish

Purru is in the freak dlc because it’s just big caiman?

[low bridge]

My bad it is scary not freakish, freakish can be maybe but maybe Arsinoitherium

Idk good or not

[low bridge]

We already have bear, lion. Hyena would be good

[left spear]

Fast Cat, close enough

[lean hound]

lol

[tidal estuary]

wouldnt mind the hyaena considering boreal park is lacking in differsity

Then the potential for alts could be fun since i dont imagine cave hyaena having more than 1 skin

[plush nacelle]

Cave hyaena could have baller skin diversity tho

This species was found from arctic up to jordan desert

Well maybe not arctic proper, but really cold places

[steep tulip]

All are either speculated to be in ea or are in the post ea list
Except guanlong lol
And the scrapped ones
Which imo still very much have a chance to come back

[plush nacelle]

Guanlong is weird. Wasnt there supposed one extra species considered to be cut?

[steep tulip]

From where
In ea?

[outer moth]

I mean the closest thing I can think of as an alt for Guan would be Procerato

[low bridge]

We need a medium sized terror bird Patagornis and small sized tb Psilopterus??

More diversity among them

Besides Kelenken a Phorusrhacos, Titanis should also be good

[smoky spear]

I dont

[lean hound]

https://tenor.com/view/platybelodon-evolution-elephant-cursed-gif-24224166

this

[quick ore]

it wouldnt have looked like that

[lean hound]

I know, I just couldn't be bothered to find an actual picture of one

[feral cedar]

What are the theorized species that the devs might add before full release

[low bridge]

None possibly

[lean hound]

what are you on about now

obviously there's speculation on what animals are getting added in ea

[feral cedar]

what are you waffling about

[steep tulip]

U17, allosaurus stegosaurs and pachycephalosaurus
U18 baryonyx ambulocetus and deinosuchus
U19 oviraptor
U20 edmontonia utahraptor carnotaurus megatherium kelenken and doedicurus
With allo stego bary and utah being confirmed to be coming 100%

As for u16, according to what mau said
Coelurosauravus/drepanosaurus for the arboreal lizard
Thrinaxodon for the fuzzy triassic critter
Didelphodon/castorocauda for the semi aquatic mammal
Some kind of heterodontosaur and halszkaraptor for the 2 funky dinosaurs
These seems to be the more popular guesses

Tho I'm personally doubtful of halszkaraptor, cuz like there's only one fish eater and I think its gonna be the mammal

[sand quail]

PLEASE Prestosuchus

[steep tulip]

Presto would be cool

[feral cedar]

neat

[plush nacelle]

Unless mammal is herbivore, which would fit it being obscure

[feral cedar]

ngl the thyreophoran roster is disappointingly small

[steep tulip]

Minis roster got completely overhauled so it's hard to say

Same with the permian animal

95% sure diictodon was one of the minis for the old roster

[feral cedar]

we have two in-game (Ankylosaurus and Scelidosaurus), one confirmed to be coming (Stegosaurus), and one theorized to show up eventually (Edmontonia)

[steep tulip]

True
We should have got kentro

Imo

[fresh ember]

Seeing as one of the planned terrarium species is an herbivore, I can probably chalk it up to one of the following dinosaurs:
-Aquilops
-Heterodontosaurus
-Jakapil
-Scutellosaurus

[feral cedar]

The armored dinosaurs is a clade that lasted some ~130 million years and yet there’s just as many as there are ceratopsids, a singular family that only popped up during the Campanian and lasted some ~10 million years

crazy

[steep tulip]

please don't be aquilops
Scutellosaurus would be lovely

[steep tulip]

🗣️

I love nasuto but we should have got kentro instead of it

I still stand by this

[feral cedar]

Kentrosaurus, Miragaia or Dacentrurus, Tuojiangosaurus, Gigantspinosaurus for stegosaurs

the dacentrurine could have an alt for Alcovasaurus for Morrison rep

[plush nacelle]

My bets and hopes:
Lizard - insect: drepano
Funky dino 1 - fish: halszka
Funky dino 2 - meat: anchiornis
Fuzzy triassic - meat: thrinaxodon
Mammal - herbi: interatherium

[feral cedar]

ankylosaurs would benefit from the return of Sauropelta, as well as Polacanthus and Stegouros

Ankylosaurus could be given a fellow club tailed friend like Tarchia or Euoplocephalus

[steep tulip]

Was interatherium semi aquatic?

[plush nacelle]

Probably

[steep tulip]

Oh neat

[feral cedar]

Actually I personally think that we either get Euoplocephalus and Pinacosaurus, or we merge both slots into one; euoplo’s general size range with the physical traits of pinaco, like being flat, wide, and spiky. Thus, Tarchia

[plush nacelle]

I basically delude myself into mammal being herbivore so there is spot for halszka

[steep tulip]

Not saying halszkaraptor is necessarily bad, but it being actually semi aquatic is quite debated on, so I would prefer something else for ea
But tbh, not really sure what other small funky dinosaur we could get

[plush nacelle]

Halszka being semi-aquatic is popular idea and giving people what they want, while not something outright wrong is good

[feral cedar]

Halszkaraptor’s semi-aquaticness is a bit debatable actually

[median relic]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-tails-knuckles-freaky-gif-12830799583270855342

[feral cedar]

https://x.com/Paleoartologist/status/1436853098920636416

Hank Sharpe (@Paleoartologist)

Fun Halzskaraptor thread, based on a new blog post by Dr. Andrea Cau, in which the good doctor heavily critiques one of my skeletal drawings without credit (1/12)

X · Sep 12, 2021, 12:44 AM

[plush nacelle]

I know about dune dweller halszka idea

[steep tulip]

Yeah not saying that if we get semi aquatic halszka I will complain (and I have a feeling if devs add it, it's gonna be semi aquatic anyway)
Just kinda prefer something else

[plush nacelle]

I saw it being more like rail

In some paleoart

[lean hound]

?

[feral cedar]

it’s in the thread

[flint sable]

hatchlings trust

[left spear]

Yeah but a semiaquatic herbivorous mammal, unless it's a beavers there is essentially nothing

[sharp dock]

Kelenken

Kelenken

Kelenken

[left spear]

And as for the triassic fuzzy critter It could be eudimorphodon

[left spear]

Inferior Devincencia

[sharp dock]

factually wrong and pathetic

[left spear]

Nuh uh

Devin has a much cooler and unique habitat

Kelenken is a basic ass praire phorusracid

Devin is the chad swampy dweller

[sharp dock]

cant wait to build habitats for it

:))))

[hollow flower]

Kele with Devin alt

Since I believe its now the largest terror bird (?)

[left spear]

Oh yeah totally devin should be a kele alt

Not saying otherwise just being funky

[left spear]

Yes unless Brontornis is indeed a phorusracid (which is dubious and besides Who the fuck cares about Brontornis)

[hollow flower]

I agree

[left spear]

Truly a Gluppshitoracid

[hollow flower]

Im a huge disliker of Brontornis

Absolute gattungsmackery

[flint sable]

brontornis is

definitely a bird

thats all I have to say about it

[left spear]

One EZ likes a lot

If only they were enlightened into the truth of Devincencia

[median relic]

screw phorusrhacids RELEASE THE PARACRAX

[left spear]

Brontornis if It were cool and based

Funny enough Brontornis is almost defenetly a Cariamiform and potentially a Bathornithid

So potentially It did look similar to this

[median relic]

I was kind of joking about paracrax since it's fragmentary as well, but bathornithids could be neat

[left spear]

Honestly Cariamiformes could very solidly have it's own 6 species DLC and not feel like they are scrapping the barrel at all

[hollow furnace]

I don’t think there is an animal EZ doesn’t like a lot

[median relic]

true

[left spear]

Fair

But specially Brontornis

Remember the Game isn't worth playing without Brontornis

[median relic]

titanis, kelenken, mesembriornis are all I know for sure

[flint sable]

my top 3 would be Titanis, Kelenken, and Psilopterus

[median relic]

I get it with psilopterus being pleistocene but even so its pleistocene records are tentative, and mesembriornis is really really cool

[left spear]

(Assuming Kele and gastornis aren't base Game which is unlikely) Kele/Titanis/Devin + Phorus + Psilop +Gastornis + Bathornithid

[left spear]

Titanis before Devin is a crime

Only cool thing It has is location, not even habitat

[flint sable]

psilo is just nice since it has a lot of species and semi decent remains

[flint sable]

exactly

[median relic]

mesembriornis gotta be one of the most underrated phorusrhacids

[plush nacelle]

This location is way more interesting than habitat tho

[flint sable]

get back to me when you can find another large terror bird that lived from california to texas to florida

[left spear]

Literally Kele but more fragmentos and in the plains of Texas instead of the plains SA

[left spear]

For the Game habitat matters way more than location

[plush nacelle]

Should be said, but all big terror birds were living in woodland and forests

Not plains

[left spear]

Well yes not great plains, but overall open habitats

Devin lived in closed jungles and swamps

Way more interesting for the game

[plush nacelle]

Actually not. Big terror birds didnt like open habitats

[left spear]

Also shares formation with Thylacosmilus and a bit with argentavis

[flint sable]

titanis as I understand it also basically lived in a giant swamp

[left spear]

Again not saying plains, but quite open woodlands

[flint sable]

like florida was even more swampy if not more than it is today

[median relic]

also remember, there are ways we can further distinguish creatures in game beyond just how different their bones are. You could give titanis and kelenken totally different vibes. One of em could be bald

[steep tulip]

I don't want titanis imma be real
Like it's a single toe

[flint sable]

???

thats just the holotype

there are more remains that just the holotype

[left spear]

Still very fragmentary

Devin while also fragmentary has more to work with

[flint sable]

tbh there are very few terror birds that arent fragmentary

and the ones that are known from semi decent remains are usually smaller

[left spear]

Devin has it's whole top cranium

[flint sable]

so its basically pile of bones A vs pile of bones B

[left spear]

It also has a much more interesting build if you ask me

[steep tulip]

What's there other than the holotype?
Other leg material?

[left spear]

Theoretically much more robust than the average terror bird

[median relic]

I'm telling you my GOAT is right here

[left spear]

Mesem is cool

But too different so not in place to be replaced

[median relic]

fair

[left spear]

Like Devin/titanis

[plush nacelle]

Anyway titanis is simply more popular and well known compared to devin, which is honestly niche animal so there is no competition between both species

[median relic]

I still don't really get the appeal of devin
it's in the same size range as titanis and kelenken, with none of the name recognition

[left spear]

Also cooler name, Titanis sounds like It was named by a 14 year old

[left spear]

Considerably bigger

Like a good 100kg bigger

[median relic]

womp womp titanis is iconic now

[left spear]

So? Giga is too

And giga should not be in the game

[median relic]

how can you even tell when they're all so fragmentary

[left spear]

Shit argument i'm sorry

[steep tulip]

Fair enough
I don't think as a genus it has been studied all that greatly too

[median relic]

I was just talking about its name

[left spear]

Ah

Still Titanis is meh

Like Wow it's Big let's call It titan

[median relic]

wait a minute

[left spear]

It's it's species name is funny to say

Pozzi

[median relic]

devin lived into the early pleistocene? cohabited with thylacosmilus and argentavis for a time? was it also that one large phorusrhacid found to have been attacked by a giant crocodilian?

[left spear]

Yes

[flint sable]

titanis was also early pleistocene and coexisted with machairodonts

[median relic]

THE GOOOATTTT

[left spear]

Well idk about the croc thing

But rest yes

[left spear]

Told ya

[median relic]

I know and I still love titanis, but I thought it was the only large pleistocene phorusrhacid

even so I'm skeptical about devin

[left spear]

I'm fine with Titanis as long as Devin makes It in too

[median relic]

but then you can't have kelenken

which is like THE terror bird

[left spear]

Why not

3 way alt

[median relic]

errr

I guess so

[left spear]

Besides arguably Terror birds are so iconic i could see 4 skins

[steep tulip]

Terror birds as a whole are very poorly studied
Like a lot has been attributed to devincenzia but I wouldn't be surprised at all if a lot of it belonged to different genera

[left spear]

Tbh same could be said for titanis

Could be another North american phorusracid

[flint sable]

possible but less likely IMO

[left spear]

Either sister, parent, or child genus

[steep tulip]

For titanis its more like
There's no decent evaluation of the animal of as whole
You would have to build it up like exodia or something

Tho there seems to be skull material and more post cranial material other than legs

So I did underestimate how much we knew about it

[digital pendant]

People only give half a shit about titanis because murica

But is not special at all

Not like people on average really know that name anyways. People know Terror bird and thats it. Appearance wise, what everyone recognizes is Kelenken and Phorusrhacos even if they dont know the actual name of the animal

[deep lake]

what about this new animal Khankhuuluu?

[low bridge]

New Khan

[feral cedar]

personally I believe in the refrain from using newly described names

Mostly to ensure science doesn’t pull the rug out from under your feet

[low bridge]

Nah it's too complicated

[outer moth]

Prolly aquilops instead of the heterodontosaur

[steep tulip]

Is there a particular reason for this

[outer moth]

1. It'll be one step closer to restoring Cloverly
2. More money from JW fans
3. It's small
4. It's an herbivore

[steep tulip]

Oh
Well I was just saying the more popular guesses

And I hope it's not aquilops or any small ceratopsian

[hollow furnace]

Aquilops was barely known to be in JWD, if at all, when the new update 16 animals were chosen lol

[outer moth]

I'm sure they'll still try to merch farm Aquilops, it's inevitable

And either way, Aquilops is from a known formation

Not to mention

"funky"

[hollow furnace]

who, pk?

[outer moth]

Universal

[hollow furnace]

Ok, why is Universal at all relevant in terms of what terrarium animal is coming in update 16

[outer moth]

Valid point, but still
What really is a "funky dinosaur" in the definition of the devs?

And what could possibly be a funky herbivore

(Since it's most likely that the "funky dino" in question is an herbivore)

Can't be Jakapil or else the Giganoto demand will skyrocket

[hollow furnace]

I don't see why a heterodontosaur is in any way less fitting of that definition then aquilops

[hollow furnace]

Yes it can what are you talking about lol

[outer moth]

Eh, just don't see any fitting heterodontosaurs

[hollow furnace]

heterodontosaurus

[outer moth]

Looked it up

Yeah, all of them are fitting

You're right

Would be neater if it was Tianyulong tho

Since we have a good general idea of how it might've looked

[vivid field]

DREPANOSAURUS AND HALSZKA PLEASE

[vivid field]

I would literally bawl tears of joy if they added scutello

OH PK DEVS PLEASE GIVE US TARCHIA, SCUTELLOSAURUS, AND STEGOUR

oh also Pinaco would be cool

[left spear]

Stegour?

That's a new one right

[outer moth]

Stegouros?

That's prolly what they meant

[vivid field]

yes it was

[dusky obsidian]

Stegouros would be so peak in this game

[winter willow]

I’m going to assume Therizinosaurus and Baryonyx have already been put forward. I’d like to nominate Amargasaurus, Utahraptor, and Thanatotheristes. As an Australian I’d like to be parochial and suggest the Minmi and Australovenator. For that matter, the Thylacoleo Carnifex is an amazing extinct megafauna marsupial that would make a great addition.

[lean hound]

Utahraptor is confirmed

[sharp dock]

cool

what about the PK Kelenken :)

https://tenor.com/view/fast-black-guy-talking-rapping-funny-rapping-gif-20718158

[low bridge]

What about Pk Hyaenodon and Daeodon?

We need them for sure

[winter willow]

Fine, Pyroraptors then :P. Though seriously, if they were going to add another raptor-like theropod, I’d absolutely love to see the Australovenator because, well, they’re cool.

Oh! I know two more that I’d love to see. The Gojirasaurus (the name should tell you why), and the Tanystropheus. They’re both Triassic species.

[lean hound]

Ehh pyroraptor is meh imo. Too fragmentary

[outer moth]

Sad to say this, but I doubt Pyroraptor
It simply has too little remains to really determine what it really looked like

Could even be a troodont or something else

[winter willow]

I know. I meant it jokingly, largely because of the name

[outer moth]

Tanystrophaeus though, that’s a good one

[mint creek]

Baryonyx is also confirmed

[outer moth]

Wait also

What’s Gojirasaurus’s status?
Still mostly Silesuchus remains?

[winter willow]

Thanatotheristes has become something of a favourite of mine because of its unbelievably metal name. Though admittedly there isn’t a lot of remains to support it.

[mint creek]

Have you seen the public trello? Not everything is on there but it gives you an idea of what to expect in the coming updates

[winter willow]

Of questioned validity admittedly, in the sense of nothing can be adequately disproved, but that does not in and of itself provide satisfactory proof

[winter willow]

Trello?

[mint creek]

https://trello.com/b/JAp8HMuy/prehistoric-kingdom-public-roadmap

Roadmap for the game

You can see things like Compsognathus, Yi, Tiktalik and Simosuchus coming in U16

[winter willow]

Ah, I see, thank you

[mint creek]

There's a handful of species that are confirmed but not revealed on the roadmap. Allosaurus fragilis/jimmy/euro + Saurophaganax, Stegosaurus stenops, Bary and Utahraptor

[winter willow]

Are we ever likely to see marine animals? Or would that be too much work?

[mint creek]

If it happens I'd imagine it's a post release expansion

[winter willow]

Ah, there’s when they’re going to do breeding

[outer moth]

Probably something the devs will try post EA

[winter willow]

I can see it as DLC I guess. It would be a lot of work, especially for a smaller studio.

[outer moth]

Probably like, one year’s worth of work

[left spear]

Breeding comes in u19, say in about a year and a half

Give or take 3 months

[low bridge]

I order land croc Barinasuchus, he is cool

[silver steeple]

Australovenator is not "raptor like"

It's a megaraptoran which are either closely related to or just outright tyrannosauroids

[median relic]

I mean raptor is kind of a subjective term

in this case saying only raptor like

[silver steeple]

Even in body shape they are nothing alike

[slim flare]

Is that Austroraptor?

[silver steeple]

Brother look up like 5 messages

[slim flare]

The joke is that I would think it’s a Dromaeosaurid after you said they’re so distinct smh

[silver steeple]

I couldn't tell if you were joking or not

[slim flare]

That’s my secret, I’m always joking

[silver steeple]

Perhaps if the joke was good I would have caught it....

[slim flare]

That’s asking a lot

[waxen grail]

Since only Stegosaurus stenops is confirmed, I would like to suggest S. ungulatus and S. sulcatus too.

[silver steeple]

It's unlikely we're getting alt species for stuff already planned as one thing

There's really not much difference between the 3 species anyway so it would be a bit of a waste

[outer moth]

All of it's skins are straight up just stenops

[hollow furnace]

Its debatable whether or not ungulatus and sulcatus even exist as distinct species, or if they’re just stenops, anyways

[winter willow]

I meant in the sense of stylistically fulfilling the same niche of being speedy pack predator.

[toxic oriole]

At some point, would be nice to see Wuerhosaurus, even if its just one of if not the last of all stegosaur genera before they went extinct in the Early Cretaceous
Not sure if there are any other Early Cretaceous stegosaurs

[winter willow]

Also complete aside, Megaraptor sounds like the name of a terrible monster movie

[toxic oriole]

Okay so there are some other Early Cretaceous Stegosaurs

[winter willow]

There’s three hypotheses put forward for classification of megaraptora and it doesn’t look like there’s an universal consensus. There’s the Allosauria hypothesis, the Tyrannosauroidea one, and a third which places them with the Coelurosauria.

[toxic oriole]

So in hindsight, Megaraptors are just a mystery in the fossil record

No way to trace what they were before they became what they were in the past?

[silver steeple]

There's no evidence of megaraptorans, or Australovenator specifically, being fast or hunting in packs

[silver steeple]

The allosauroid one is the least likely, it only really occurs when there aren't enough coelurosaurs in the matrix (the system of comparison when comparing traits of different fossil animals)

[winter willow]

Look I just want more Australian species because parochialism. Stop being rational 😛

[winter willow]

It was the initial hypothesis, but it still seems to be considered a possibility. The coelurosauria hypothesis seems to be the most recent.

[silver steeple]

Don't get me wrong, I want Australo too, it's one of the few species I truly actually want for the game

I'm just saying that the reasons listed aren't strong because they aren't true

[silver steeple]

Possible maybe but not especially plausible

Every good paper on them in the last 5 or so years has indicated that they are at minimum coelurosaurs

If anything being compared to raptors in any way (besides hunting in a particular way) is kinda doing megaraptorans a disservice

They're the only large theropods other than maybe like Allosaurus and Dilophosaurus (if you count that as large ig) that are constantly using their arms in prey capture

Doing something roughly similar to dromeaosaurs but with their arms instead

And probably only hunting prey smaller than themselves

[winter willow]

I have to say, as a historian, history and historiography has nothing on palaeontology in terms of trying to assemble a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle when you only have 10 pieces, and then quibbling with other professionals over where to put them

Herrerasaurus might be a good one. But I love animals from the Triassic, and indeed before it. I’d love to see something like the Lystrosaurus as well

And they were around during the Permian

[silver steeple]

Iirc none of the permian species are large enough to be a full habitat animal

[winter willow]

Dimetrodon could probably?

[silver steeple]

Yeah plenty of dimetro species are large enough

Imo that's one of those "matter of time" species lol

Like there's no way we aren't getting one

Oh I see the confusion now

[winter willow]

It’s wild to me that Dimetrodons had been extinct for some 40 million years before dinosaurs showed up. It really shows the unbelievable length of time that dinosaurs, and animals we often lump in with dinosaurs were around for

[silver steeple]

I meant permian lystrosaurus species lol

Not permian animals

[winter willow]

Ah, I see. Fair enough

[hollow furnace]

Actually one of the permian species is the only one large enough to be a full exhibit

[plush nacelle]

Lystrosaurus

[left spear]

Yes

Just figured It out

Sowy

[silver steeple]

I thought it was the other way around with one of the Triassic sp being the only one large enough

[hollow furnace]

Nope

The larger species went extinct during the P-T, while the smaller survived and diversified into the two Triassic species

[silver steeple]

A Gug is a Gug

[wheat shard]

Jakapil kaniukura, Stegouros, and Beipiaosaurus (all respectively) would be some great species to add!
All three of these would be perfect for some Desert, Coastal, and Grassland enclosures!

[hollow valve]

Ok guys. I think I found another potential Terrarium/Mini-Exhibit Animal: https://uchytel.com/Deinogalerix

[runic tiger]

Oh god Robert Fabiani

The mesozoica Flashbacks

No NO

[feral cedar]

Beipiaosaurus was probably much more "normal" looking

There's a paper that found our specimens of Beipiaosaurus to be juveniles

https://x.com/Syn_JFD/status/1445194028266438668

Ben (@Syn_JFD)

Very hypothetical adult Beipiaosaurus scaling, roughly done assuming it'd be large enough to defend itself from Yutyrannus and that its basal position is due to the animal being a young juvenile rather than an adult.

X · Oct 5, 2021, 1:08 AM

[hollow furnace]

we have adult beipiao specimens too

just undescribed

[feral cedar]

Yeah they're roughly 6m (20ft) long

[winter willow]

Today I learned that there is a Spinosaurid called the Irritator.

[left spear]

It's named that way because the skull has extremely hard to prepare due to the collector they got it from being idiots, hence irritation

[low bridge]

I want cookies

[steep carbon]

some kind of land croc would be cool

[low bridge]

Let me introduce u to Barinasuchus

🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️

[short rover]

EZ W

[plush nacelle]

Remember, anything EZ wants is not going to happen

BB barina

[short rover]

Not on my watch…

[low bridge]

Yeah

I think that Barina is quite underrated just for me

Biggest overall Cenozoic Land carnivore that isn't a mammal

Other land croc that was equal to Barina is Quinkana

[left spear]

Barina is based, superior to any rauisuchid

[low bridge]

Barina takes approved

Like that

If Para is closely related to Juxia and Elasmo to Sino so Megatherium can have Eremotherium as Alt because they are closely related

Theory

Lolll

[hollow flower]

Nah im the biggest rauisuchid supporter

[left spear]

Then you shall perish

The Sebecid New World Order can't be avoided

[low bridge]

Dinocrocuta would go hard in game

Arsinoitherium will be loved by everyone if ofc be in game

My english is phfcked lol

😶‍🌫️

[cinder python]

Purussaurus more Miocene maybe update 18 the wetlands update

[woven hollow]

I thought it was biggest cenozoic land carnivore full stop, what mammal got bigger?

[quick ore]

no mammal did I think EZ is just mistaken

Although tbh it isn't absolutely confirmed that Barinasuchus was, right? We only have the skull

which is also why I don't think it would be the best inclusion imo

[short rover]

Nah barina is great I could’ve sworn it had more material

Nvm it is just a skull

But still sick

[median relic]

wasn't more barina material stuck under a road or something

[silver steeple]

Yeah the holotype had postcranial remains but when the team came back for the rest it had been paved over by a road crew

[smoky spear]

wonder how often devs check this thread

[low bridge]

Theory is that the Devs will use suggestions from this thread in making free&paid expansions and dlcs, change my mind

After full release ofc

There is no possible way that devs aren't looking at this thread

[silver steeple]

They probably check in every now and then but tbh it's pretty clearly a containment zone to keep animal suggestions from clogging up the forum and drowning out other more "feedback" oriented posts

[low bridge]

Dome headed chalicothere is good??

[winter willow]

I know dinosaurs are the big selling point, but I do like that they’ve got extinct mammals as well. I’m hoping we get more; the dire wolf, marsupial lion.

[inner wedge]

honestly i think this game shouldn't make dinos as the selling point at all

if anything giving space to all the other creatures in the fossil record should be it

[steep tulip]

Tbf
Dinosaurs will always be the main selling point

[sharp dock]

thats kind of a detached comment

the general public will always root for dinosaurs

so not making them the selling point is a bad strategy

[steep tulip]

We should get at least 4 more in ea (it was stated a while ago but I doubt it changed)

[sharp dock]

WHERE STEGASAUR!

[steep tulip]

🗣️

[sharp dock]

I need eye cleansing, I need to see the PK allo

[steep tulip]

Can't believe that it appeared in jp and then never again

[sharp dock]

remaster JWE models is not enough I must see games with genuinely good dinosaur designs

[steep tulip]

Stego and allo were supposed to come last year
Not complaining because I'm sure the devs had their fair reasons, but damn they can't come soon enough

[tidal estuary]

atleast we know that pk will get to 1.0 secured and the sales from update 17 will be nice topup

and with the teased blurred animal we'll get some diverse choice for cool builds 😄

[outer moth]

It’s not really the MAIN selling point since we do have a better mammal roster long after launch

[outer moth]

Same here
I’m tired of seeing many cool species get the JW treatment

[inner wedge]

we already have a game for d*no fans. it's called Jurassic World Evolution

[sharp dock]

so? only one thing of one type can exist at a time or how this does work

[low bridge]

We need 5 simple camels for Prehistoric Kingdom
2 Early ones
3 Neat ones

[hollow flower]

Im gonna be honest

2 camels is already pushing it

[low bridge]

Wish that is Camelops and Titanotylopus

Aepycamelus can work as Dlc

[short rover]

One camel is fine

[mint creek]

Chalicotherium... need chalicotherium...

[low bridge]

Dome headed chalicothere isn't needed

Like Dome headed Giraffe

[plush nacelle]

2 camels

One big

One early antelope like

[low bridge]

One long necked one

As dlc

[sharp dock]

people here tryna bargain camels lol

[low bridge]

I order Thunder Beast

[late swallow]

Cryolophosaurus and Nanuqsaurus would go super hard

[lean hound]

did you just mix nanotyrannus and nanuqsaurus?!

[late swallow]

Probably

It's very early and the 4 of us are still waking up

[mint creek]

a real schizotyrannus

[hollow flower]

Schizooura as a mini

[short rover]

Bro picked two of my biggest ops

[winter willow]

No, what I meant is simply that dinosaurs will always have a much greater hold on the imagination and popular consciousness, and just have far more cultural capital than any pre-historic mammal. I didn’t intend to say that the game should make them a marketing point

[low bridge]

Sub Saharan Pleistocene Carnivore Bear is good?

Agriotherium

[short rover]

Meh

You can only have so many bears

[hollow flower]

One thing is disliking Nanuq but another is disliking Cryo

[steep tulip]

I think they can go with a different route for cryo to not just make it dilo with a different crest
Like they could more heavily rely on feathers and stuff for its design

[waxen grail]

Correction: we already have a game for Dinosaurs fans that want their Dinosaurs to look like movie monsters. Also why did you censor Dino?

[cinder python]

Alioramus one of favorite small tyrannosaur

[steep tulip]

I love alioramus

[waxen grail]

Alioramus would make a great addition to the game

[short rover]

I don’t dislike it I just don’t think it’s a good pick for the base game

[plush nacelle]

Nanuq feels like free and cheap christmas gift

[short rover]

Was referring to cryo btw I don’t want nanuq at all

[median relic]

I want to try and avoid nanuq as well

[plush nacelle]

On the other hand there are so few boreal options for dinosaurs

[median relic]

that's fair

[short rover]

That’s just how it be

[waxen grail]

It would still be nice to have more boreal Dinosaurs available

[late swallow]

Would absolutely love to see Borealopelta

[plush nacelle]

Boreal biome definitely dominanted by cenozoic tho

[steep tulip]

Didn't alberto live in boreal regions

[low bridge]

Only two steppe mammals that we actually need are Steppe Bison and Cave Hyena

We have Wooly Mammoth, Cave Bear, Cave Lion, Wooly Rhino

[waxen grail]

Being as the rest of the Horseshoe Canyon Formation Dinosaurs don’t like the boreal biome, I doubt Albertosaurus would like boreal

[plush nacelle]

Even prince creek barely fits the definition of boreal

[steep tulip]

Ig I must be misremembering
Just give alberto a feathered skin
Here's nanuqsaurus

[plush nacelle]

Pretty much

[hollow furnace]

Not really

[waxen grail]

Yes

[left spear]

If you want Nanuq just use brumal Rex at like 70% percent

[waxen grail]

It won’t have boreal as a preference though. Pretty sure Nanuq looks different from a 70% T. rex too.

[left spear]

Frankly Who would want Nanuq on challenge mode

It would just be worse Tarbo since they are somewhat close in size

Idk Nanuq strikes me as a puré sandbox species

(well It doesn't strike me as anything but you get what i mean)

[winter willow]

One the one hand, the Thanatotheristes is “just another tyrannosaurid”, and one fairly closely related to the tarbosaurus and tyrannosaurus at that (a sister taxon).
On the other hand the species name literally translates to “death reaper”, and that alone makes it worthy of consideration.

[low bridge]

What about Dynamoterror?

[slim flare]

No

[low bridge]

It sucks

[slim flare]

Yes

[left spear]

Textbook Gluppshitosaur

Idk what are worse the remains or the name

[waxen grail]

What’s the name?

[left spear]

Dynamoterror

Haven't seen a more cringe name since dracorex

[waxen grail]

Dracorex should not exist