Community Species Suggestions

[silver steeple]

Same

And knowing the devs they'll probably just make it Troodon to begin with

[slim flare]

Ugrunalook and Saurophagus 😳

[short rover]

As long as we get an Arctic skin and saurornithoides alt I’m happy

[short rover]

Smuggled into the base game…

[slim flare]

I hope we don’t get the Prince Creek Troodontid

[short rover]

I hope you explode

[slim flare]

Overrated af

Basically a tooth taxon

[steep tulip]

dracorex and sigilmassasaurus would be pachy 2.0 and spino 2.0
also dracorex is a maybe until some study about it comes out

[silver steeple]

I think it would be fine to have it as a psuedo-alt like the mammoths

[austere echo]

i wonder if they could do Mini exhibition in pk simula to planet zoo

[slim flare]

Too many better options

[short rover]

Or like magnapaul ye

[silver steeple]

Ye

There's multiple examples but my mind skips to mammoth first lol

[slim flare]

Especially if Troodon gets it’s neotype

[steep tulip]

I would have preferred stenonychosaurus, but we getting troodon I think

[short rover]

They have that ingame already, microraptor and archaeopteryx

[short rover]

In my mind there’s virtually no difference

Average troodontid

[slim flare]

Apparently Stenonychosaurus is dubious so 🤷‍♀️

[austere echo]

i am thinking for snakes and Insects

[steep tulip]

we knew steno could get bigger

[silver steeple]

If the neotype proposal is to be believed, they're one in the same

[steep tulip]

with laten

[slim flare]

(Stupid)

How can a dubious species be a synonym of anything?

[steep tulip]

from what I get at least its believed to have been differnt from steno, but the rest is just troodon?

[slim flare]

The point is it’s undiagnostic

[silver steeple]

Steno has been the poster child of Troodon for decades now regardless

They're the same animal in the minds of many

Even if not taxonomically

[slim flare]

That I agree with

Although Laten makes it weird

Especially if it’s the skeletally mature Stenonychosaurus

[silver steeple]

The best part about a prince creek pseudo-alt is that it could stand in for Lateni just as easily

Especially once we get the skin altering

[austere echo]

direwolf would be awesome

[short rover]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[slim flare]

Or give us Laten and use an albino for the PC species

[silver steeple]

6 of one half dozen of the other

[steep tulip]

We won't escape the normal kingdom accusation, but dire wolves are just cool idc

[neat iris]

Was it any specific kind of horse?

[slim flare]

Equus ferus ferus

[short rover]

Why won’t you escape it, dire wolves are one of the most different

[neat iris]

Ah, gotcha

[short rover]

They doing their own thing

[slim flare]

White grey wolves…

[silver steeple]

Satan have you never heard this phrase

[neat iris]

Someone recently made a Colossal “dire wolf” mod for Planet Zoo as a joke, so I can definitely see someone doing that if/when PK adds the actual species.

[short rover]

I haven’t either

[slim flare]

No, I don’t think anyone has

[silver steeple]

I was under the impression it was much more common

[slim flare]

Your parents lied to protect you

[silver steeple]

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/six-of-one-and-half-a-dozen-of-the-other#:~:text=said when you think that,a dozen of the other."

Educate thineselves

[slim flare]

But I disagree

[steep tulip]

Idk
I fear people will say it's just a dog since I've seen quite few people say that megaloceros its just a deer

[austere echo]

as one who just love wolves some prehistoric would for sure be cool

[slim flare]

One is two bones, the other is a nice disgnostic holotype

[silver steeple]

I mean yeah Megaloceros is just a deer

[short rover]

I’m guessing It’s just “potato potato”

[slim flare]

One is from a good formation, the other a bad one

[short rover]

But with more words

[silver steeple]

It's closest to modern fallow deer

[silver steeple]

Basically

[slim flare]

Megaloceros do be a member of Cervidae

[austere echo]

cant wait to see the day we proberply get marine animals in pk in the future

[steep tulip]

I mean yeah
But it's a cool in it's own way
Tho hopefully more pre pleistocene additions will balance the roster more so the "normal" looking animals will attract less disdain

[austere echo]

the sea turtle from prehistoric planet could be fun

[quick ore]

Archelon?

[steep tulip]

The carcass?

Not archelon
The one in the first episode I believe

[quick ore]

was it even given a name

[steep tulip]

No
Generic protostegid afaik

Archelon is def the better choice

[austere echo]

i just asumed it was the archelon

[quick ore]

I would rather we get an extinct species of giant tortoise first

[austere echo]

unless there are multible giant prehistoric turtles i dont know about

[steep tulip]

Archelon lived 10 millions years before trex

Yeah there are multiple

[steep tulip]

We probably will

[flint sable]

ideally for me at least it would be 60% dinosaurs, 20% mammals, and then 10% everything else

[quick ore]

it would be cool if they added Cylindraspis triserrata so that it could be in a cohab with Dodos

[flint sable]

any turtle would be peak

[steep tulip]

There was an alive one too I forgot

[quick ore]

it would be sad if Dodos get added with nothing from Mauritius to coexist with them

[steep tulip]

True, but at the same time, there are a bunch of tortoise/turtles/whatever I would rather get first
Like meiolania

[quick ore]

I mean

that's technically not even a turtle at all lol

[steep tulip]

True that's why I added the whatever lol

[neat iris]

Archelon my beloved

[steep tulip]

But it could share rigs with other tortoises pretty easily

[austere echo]

if they do add the dodo they better add watermelons to make it happy

[quick ore]

why did ice age even have them like watermelons

[silver steeple]

Funny

[quick ore]

it's even more bizarre that they were in ice age at all

like ik that series played very fast and loose with the animals in it

but it is still weird that they were just hanging out there

[austere echo]

it was for sure strange

[slim flare]

Extinct continental dodos

Raphus watermelonphilus

[austere echo]

dodo bird is going to be fun to see

[quick ore]

also I reallllly hope Dodos won't be terrarium animals

[neat iris]

Same

[austere echo]

prehistoric bird update would be nice

so they could add the terror bird and dodo bird and something else

[flint sable]

very unlikely lol

[neat iris]

Any terror bird species in particular?

[flint sable]

dodo is quite a bit taller and heavier than the smallest exhibit species

[austere echo]

not that familia with them but the one from nigels own show prehistoric park

[quick ore]

my choice would be Phorusrhacos

[lean hound]

People properly called him out for spamming polls and he got all silly about it saying things like “Just ban me” and he eventually left

[quick ore]

ik Kelenken is requested more

but I would just prefer Phorusrhacos

[neat iris]

That’s phorusracos; it’s on my wishlist too

But kelenken is probably more likely

[lean hound]

I feel like kelenken should at least be added as an alt just because of it’s popularity

[austere echo]

would be so nice

[quick ore]

I see no reason why we couldn't get both with one being the alt of the other

[neat iris]

I want at least one carnivorous terror bird, and gastornis because it was a vegetarian

[silver steeple]

Tbh most terror birds (phorusrachids specifically) were very similarly built

[quick ore]

gastornis wasnt a terror bird

[silver steeple]

So you really could just plop one in and pretend it was something else

[quick ore]

Kelenken is a lot stockier than Phorusrhacos tho right

[silver steeple]

Eh

Not by a lot

The big notable difference is Kelenken's longer beak

[quick ore]

oh wait I just realized

we would be getting either of these terror birds with the raised toe claw that we now know they had

[silver steeple]

Yeah its slightly larger but phorusrachid sample size is far from magnificent

So we dunno if Kelenken is that much of an outlier or if larger phorusrachus individuals got to that size

You can also just pause the ontogeny and call it the same lol

[hollow furnace]

Both are basically known only from skull and foot material afaik

[quick ore]

oh ok

[hollow furnace]

So… who knows

[silver steeple]

Yeah

[quick ore]

but that trackway showed a raised toe claw right

so they probably both had it

[silver steeple]

Yes they had raised toe claws

All phorusrachids did

Its like one of their defining traits

We knew of it in like the 60's

[quick ore]

wait what

that long ago?

[silver steeple]

Yes

[hollow flower]

I always found Phorusrhacos to be the generic terror bird

[quick ore]

how come I feel like I've never heard about it til recently

[hollow flower]

Which tbf its the base one taxonomically I believe

[hollow furnace]

People forgor about it

[slim flare]

Time for Psilopterus

[hollow flower]

Psilo is a great choice

[silver steeple]

Sorry meant Phorusrhacinae

[quick ore]

which Glyptodont would be best to add?

[silver steeple]

Doed imo

[hollow flower]

Doedicurus

[hollow furnace]

fun fact they had sickle toe claws too

[hollow flower]

Its the anky of them

[quick ore]

was it the only one with a mace

[hollow flower]

Glyptodon is the nodo of them

[neat iris]

I know they’re probably going to add megatherium at some point, so I’d also love macrauchenia and maybe toxodon

[silver steeple]

Could just as easily do glyptodon too tho

[hollow flower]

Then have that giant proper armadillo

[quick ore]

Macrauchenia would probably disappoint a lot of people lol

no trunk

[silver steeple]

Too bad

[hollow flower]

I like the new one more

[quick ore]

me too

[silver steeple]

He's cool as is

[quick ore]

but just saying

[silver steeple]

Big guy too

Like 1-2t

[hollow furnace]

Personally really hope they go with a this-style reconstruction:

[slim flare]

More like 1 tonne

[silver steeple]

Some specimens are larger

Closing in on 2

[slim flare]

Really? Source?

[quick ore]

if we do get it and Toxodon, I hope we don't stop there when it comes to SANU's

[silver steeple]

I don't got one on me atm but I believe I heard it from AD

[slim flare]

@digital pendant 2 tonne Macrauchenia?

[hollow flower]

I personally enjoy this one

[silver steeple]

That one is one of my favs too

[quick ore]

thats how I see it now

[slim flare]

That one is my favourite

[neat iris]

Me too

[median relic]

macrauchenia is so whimsical I will gladly take him

[silver steeple]

The only thing that's keeping it from being my favorite outright is the nasal tissue texture

But that's an opinion thing, no reason it couldn't have looked like that

[neat iris]

So basically we went from thinking it had a tapir nose, to realizing it had more of a moose nose

[silver steeple]

God seeing Mac do a flehmen response would have been a sight

[digital pendant]

Mac got to one ton, idk where you got 2 tons

[silver steeple]

Must've mixed up lbs and kgs or something then

Anyway

[digital pendant]

Possibly

[silver steeple]

Fun critter

[median relic]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-gif-13987092463732868129

[neat iris]

Did toxodon behave more like rhinos or hippos? Do we even know?

[median relic]

I think the semi-aquatic thing is debunked at least

[neat iris]

Ah, ok, so probably more like rhinos

[silver steeple]

It is

Definitely more like rhinos yes

Think rhino/buffalo

[slim flare]

Vindication

[median relic]

the name deinodon should've went to this thing

[silver steeple]

Bro is the Britodon

[flint sable]

nah thats Baryonyx trust

[cinder python]

Liaoningosaurus semi aquatic ank (I was wrong)

[slim flare]

No

[median relic]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[steep tulip]

Xenorhinotherium alt pretty please
It survived deep into the holocene

[slim flare]

Would be cool

[silver steeple]

Wasn't semi-aquatic

And the specimen we have is a baby iirc

We don't have a good idea of what the adult would look like

Dunno why anyone thought it was semi-aquatic ngl

Sure it was found in water but like half that formation was

Is Microraptor also now semi-aquatic? Borealopelta?

[median relic]

something something misinterpretation of fish in its gut cavity

[silver steeple]

The world may never know......

[silver steeple]

That's just as bad an argument tbh

There's like 3 reasons that a fish could end up in a chest cavity

And something tells me that the one reasoning of "it ate it" falls apart when you realize that ankylosaurs just weren't built to do that

[quick ore]

I thought it also had marine iguana like teeth?

[steep carbon]

what would yall put in a "Chinese Dragons" dlc

[silver steeple]

Animals that notoriously eat almost exclusively plants

[steep carbon]

are you talking about the yixan ank

[silver steeple]

The only thing that could really tell us is that baby ankylosaurs may have eaten soft plants

[median relic]

yeah ankylosaurs are the last dinosaur group that I think would ever take to the water

[silver steeple]

Yes

[median relic]

tbf idk if the argument is for piscivory specifically, as much as it is just that it was aquatic

[silver steeple]

You can have similar teeth to an animal that spends time in water and not spend most of your time in water

[median relic]

yeah def

I don't think it was aquatic for the record

[silver steeple]

Not saying you do

Just pointing out the massive flaws in any of the proposals for liaoningosaurus being aquatic lol

Takes about 5 seconds of critical thought lol

[open heron]

There is no tooth fairy!
There is no easter bunny!
And there are no semi aquatic non avian dinosaurs! (sssh Spinosaurus doesn't exist)

[silver steeple]

There are no semi-aquatic non-theropods

[median relic]

https://tenor.com/view/rob-made-this-gif-robinn-gif-its-true-it's-true-true-gif-5253832473799116673

tbh though I could see some select members of herbivorous groups going for a moose like diet of aquatic plants, but that's just speculation

[slim flare]

Yes!

[open heron]

Real talk if something looks unusual with a dinosaur compared to its relatives, if it's not concretely on the bones it's probably misinterpreted.

[steep tulip]

havent heard of the miocene pelagic stegosaur, havent you?

[silver steeple]

That's not impossible but I don't imagine it's especially likely for anything we have rn

[silver steeple]

Like 99% of the time yeah

[open heron]

Sadly we can't make those unfunny 'the last' jokes because it had pliocene relatives in freshwater environments.

[silver steeple]

I love Occam's Razor

[median relic]

nothing we have, no

[open heron]

Dinosaurs just deviate less than a lot of the living animal family groups we're used to.
Spinosaurus and Deinocherius have made us think everything's weird but no we have multiple families that are like 90% almost all clones of each other with different head shapes or tiny body differences.

So stuff like semi aquatic ornithopods or venomous... anything are just generally unlikely

[median relic]

I mean not necessarily

I could agree with that being the case in terms of becoming aquatic though

only a few theropods have aquatic affinities

[slim flare]

Then explain this

[median relic]

but I think given just how long dinosaurs existed, it's very possible there was at least one venomous or aquatic ornithischian taxon

[open heron]

Maybe we just got shitty rng with what preserved and there actually were ceratopsians in the western interior seaway, but in general, dinosaurs did things they were good at and seemingly didn't need to massively deviate once a group was established.

[median relic]

aight nobody is saying there were ceratopsians in the WIS

[open heron]

Hydropentaceratops 2028

[median relic]

a mammalian equivalent to that would be like bison in the ocean, which is rare even for them

[steep tulip]

kinda funny the only fully marine archosaurs were thalattosuchians (and maybe hesperornis and kin)

[median relic]

hesperornis still crawled out to lay eggs afaik

[median relic]

I saw this art once and forgot how uncanny it is

why are they so seal like and rubbery looking

[steep tulip]

sealsperornis

[open heron]

Does this apply to teleosaurs as well or only metriorhynchid members?

[steep tulip]

yeah but so do sea turtle and I dont really consider them semi aquatic

[median relic]

true

[steep tulip]

only metrirhynchid and close relatives

I think teleosaurus was semi aquatic?

[median relic]

speaking of thalattosuchians, when did they start giving live birth I wonder

[open heron]

live birth tends to facilitate animals becoming fully aquatic so I imagine before that happened at least?

[steep tulip]

wait I forgot

[hollow furnace]

We don't even know concretely if thalattosuchians were live bearing, so impossible to say

[steep tulip]

Dyrosauridae had fully marine members I think

[median relic]

metriorhynchids at least had to be lol

[steep tulip]

I think I made it up
it seems they were all pretty capable of terrestrial locomotion

[steep tulip]

they had wider hip bones more similar to ichtyosaurs and plesiosaurs afaik
so its def a possibility

[silver steeple]

Much like the Homalocephale.....

[flint sable]

specimins

several

all infants though

[silver steeple]

That's slightly amusing

[flint sable]

more than 20 actually

[outer moth]

Hope we find adult remains
Might be a Stegoros-Scelidosaurus sized animal

[flint sable]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liaoningosaurus

from the Yixian so it makes some sense

but yeah like 20+, all infants

[silver steeple]

Yixian bias towards small animals really evident with that one

[outer moth]

I wonder if there even is an adult liaoningosaurus

Is it too early to call the "neoteny" card?

[steep tulip]

Yes

[outer moth]

There seems to be a MC mod that may or may not have a decent depiction of adult Liao

[steep tulip]

Because neotenic animals bones still develop normally
Like you can tell when they are fully grown up (unless you are named nanotyrannus)

[silver steeple]

Neoteny isn't just "this thing looks like a baby" lol

[steep tulip]

Prehistoric fauna?

[outer moth]

Yea

Could be a scelido-sized animal

[steep tulip]

I really like it

[silver steeple]

Could also be considerably larger

[outer moth]

Not exactly the biggest but not too big to logically fit into the Yixian

[silver steeple]

We don't have an amazing age constraint on how old any of the liaoningosaurus specimens are

[steep tulip]

I remember seeing this depiction too

[silver steeple]

Why on earth did they make it a biped

[steep tulip]

Idk

[silver steeple]

I've never heard any evidence for that lmao

[outer moth]

Idk if Liao would be a biped or a quadroped

Prehistoric Fauna seems to be our best depiction so far imo

[hollow furnace]

We potentially may have, Chuanqilong

[steep tulip]

Well it seems to have been quad

[hollow furnace]

It would be quadrupedal, it's an ankylosaur

[silver steeple]

Almost certainly a quadruped lol

[hollow furnace]

It has a tail club, it's pretty derived

[silver steeple]

It's not some weird basal shit like Jakapil

Wait does the discord bot not work here?

Fuck

Sure enough

[hollow furnace]

haha, we've escaped it's evil reign

[outer moth]

Which name takes priority?

[hollow furnace]

liaoningosaurus would

[silver steeple]

Liaoningosaurus was named 13 years prior

[outer moth]

Pretty sure Jakapil would be a mini
That's the only habitat type that could contain this evil beast

[silver steeple]

2001 vs 2013

[outer moth]

It does roll off the tongue better
Are ppl considering a merge anytime soon?

[steep tulip]

well they would need to compare the fossils first

[silver steeple]

Maybe, it's like 1.5m so it's basically at the cutoff, but that's not really got anything to do with what I was saying

[hollow furnace]

It's was an abstract a few years ago, so who knows when or if it'll ever be published

[outer moth]

Would be 2 individuals max tho

Wait

Will terrariums breed?
I know there's no ontogeny, but they still could breed like PZ exhibit animals, right?

[hollow furnace]

we don't know

probably not

[outer moth]

Does seem like an interesting study though, seeing as this could revolutionize ankylosaur ontogeny

Thyreophorans are criminally underrated

[wary nacelle]

Grug
-# /j

[steep tulip]

I call it prehistoric kingdom
Rhymes with grug

[flint sable]

Thyreophorans are either random glupshitto with 2 bones to its name or one of the most complete dinosaur specimens ever known

and there is no inbetween

[quick ore]

very real

[left spear]

I knew about their depresion arc but i didn't know they left, this thread is gonna lose 35% of it's circulation

[left spear]

Very in-character tbh

[glass timber]

Good morning, I'm relatively new here, though I imagine you've probably already requested to include Stegosaurus ungulatus, as I believe it's one of the most iconic species. I would love to see Concavenator corcovatus featured someday in a game like PK, which truly pays great attention to its models. Thank you.

[autumn plover]

There are better Allosauroids to add

Namely Yangchuanosaurus

We already have Acrocanthosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus as true Carcharodontosaurs

For Allosauroids: Allosaurus, Yangchuanosaurus, Acrocanthosaurus, and Carcharodontosaurus would be enough and plenty diverse

[silver steeple]

Stegosaurus is being added but it's stenops and stenops only. I'm not sure where you got the idea that ungulatus is in any way iconic though

[hollow flower]

Concavenator is the carcharadontosaur I most want to see

[outer moth]

For me it's Conca and Giga
The rest aren't that important

[hollow flower]

Agreed

[outer moth]

I don't really care if ppl think giga is redundant

or lazy

[hollow flower]

Giga is an inevitability

As much as id prefer other additions this is more or less the truth

[outer moth]

But a Giga with alts is the last carch line I ever wanna see in base-game (no mods)

[hollow flower]

Giga with a Mapu alt is the one I personally prefer

[outer moth]

That and of course, Concavenator

[hollow flower]

(Although honestly I cant tell the 2 apart if theyre next to each other)

[outer moth]

I feel like Giga has a lot more facial features to it

And I feel like they could make giga look cooler

Bigger chin, prominent facial keratin, and perhaps those spikes Iguanodon has

[autumn plover]

Oh here we go weekly Giga conversation #17 has started

Oh wait hold on I started this conversation lol

Shit animal

[outer moth]

Look, it's a species that has to make it in at some point, I don't care about the Giga hatred

[autumn plover]

Carch with a chin, should not happen

[outer moth]

I don't like that this subject gets striked down as soon as it arises

Not a very good look for the spec part of the community

It's not like I'm suggesting penis fragment #219CVO

[autumn plover]

Because it’s a dumb subject, I could literally just photoshop a Carch into having a bigger chin with slightly larger brown horns and there you go, literally Giga.

[plush nacelle]

Giga is cheap and effective

We cant expect from devs to make every single new animal unique

[autumn plover]

The solution would be to add animals that don’t need to be made unique

Instead of a Carcharodontosaurus with a more popular name

[silver steeple]

Giga seems like an easy free dino we could get as like an anniversary gift or something

[plush nacelle]

Giga gives this african leopard energy

[silver steeple]

We know that the devs plan on adding free updates with animals

I'd be pretty ehhh about it if it was paid tho

[autumn plover]

The only way I’d be happy to accept it is if it was paid

[outer moth]

It sells a Cretaceous SA DLC way better as the flagship

[autumn plover]

Make it paid to get like 5-6
Other animals in the game

The fans will lap it up and Giga will cover their cost

[outer moth]

But in the end, I don't think the hate is justified

[autumn plover]

It kind of is now that Carch is here.

Before Carch was added

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/family-feud-strike-buzzer-wrong-answer-survey-says-gif-16292153

[autumn plover]

I would have preferred Giga

It’s more complete, more popular, and has Mapu as a potential alt

Now that we have Carch

[outer moth]

If giga was added instead of Carcha, people would be in here asking for Carcha

[autumn plover]

Giga is redundant

[silver steeple]

Because people cream their pants over megatheropods

[autumn plover]

There’d be less of them and I’d tell them the same thing

[silver steeple]

Especially the "bigger than rex" ones

[outer moth]

Conca and Giga are the last carchs I ever need in PK
It's just a staple in pop-culture since Giga's description

The rest can be mods

[autumn plover]

In hindsight I’m actually kind of annoyed that the devs chose Carcha. I thought it’s addition would shut the add big Carch clones crowd up

It hasn’t

People still want Giga

Should have just added Giga in the first place

There’s not as much love for Carcha tbh

[outer moth]

And why do you hate on people asking for Giga?
Not like you can control their desires for something else, and devs do add whatever's popular with the paleo community in general

(plus some underrated animals)

[autumn plover]

I’ve explained why

Like literally in this convo

[outer moth]

Yes I know megatheropod fans exist

But like

You can't exclude their wishes

they make up like, 40% of the entire community

[autumn plover]

The megatheropod fans are already eating extremely well

[silver steeple]

I mean you very much can

[outer moth]

And keeping them fed is what helps fund devs
Both parties are happy

[silver steeple]

We already have 2 carchs, which is arguably plenty imo

[outer moth]

I'm not asking for 10 carchs, in the end

[autumn plover]

Torvosaurus gurneyi, Acrocanthosaurus, Spinosaurus, Tyrannosaurus, Tarbosaurus, Carcharodontosaurus and suddenly we’re excluding them for not indulging them with more??

[outer moth]

Especially not dubious genera

[autumn plover]

Saurophaganax is coming

That’s 7 already

[outer moth]

8 is a good endpoint

[autumn plover]

But somehow it’s unreasonable to say enough is enough

[outer moth]

And nothing more

[autumn plover]

8 is more genera than there are ceratopsians lol

[outer moth]

Plus Conca is also one of my fav Carchs

[autumn plover]

More than we have genera of sauropods

[outer moth]

And that's not a mega

[outer moth]

There can always be more ceratopsians and sauropods
In fact I'm surprised there aren't as many

I'm not EZ after all

[autumn plover]

Funnily enough, when I suggested to a Giga fan let’s make Giga paid dlc to get other animals into the game they took issue with it

[outer moth]

Giga works in a paid DLC
I'm willing to take that compromise

Just as much as anyone else

Just saying

[autumn plover]

Yeah paid dlc, get 5-6 actually worthwhile animals into the game off of the sales generated from Giga fans

The only reason to add it

[outer moth]

I like it and I see it coming in eventually
Not saying now

[outer moth]

That plus some good minis from Cretaceous SA

Seeing as Brazil n Argentina are powerhouses for K formations

(The only downside is some species are controversially named)

[silver steeple]

I think you greatly over estimate how many people would buy a giga dlc and underestimate how much an animal takes to make

If every single member in this entire discord (which is extremely generous because I doubt more than maybe 3/4ths actually own the game) you could pay to make about 6.5 animals

If a Giga only DLC was $5

Not accounting for the cost of Giga itself

Assuming Giga costs the same as any other animal, you'd get about 5.5

[outer moth]

That and we don't rlly know how devs are planning on structuring non-expansion DLCs

[autumn plover]

Not really looking good for Giga then

Getting other animals into the game was it’s only redeeming feature

[hollow furnace]

Giga would cost less than any other animal though. The 12K price point is the cost to make an animal from scratch, and the most time-consuming aspect of making an animal is the animation work, which is already done for giga

[silver steeple]

Even if you assume Giga costs like 1/2

That's 6 animals

Again this is all under the assumption that a $5 Giga DLC sells approximately 15.5k sales

[feral cedar]

Giganotosaurus my beloved

[hollow furnace]

Also unsure why you're going with the 15k figure from the discord, PK currently has an ownership of around 200k people, a number that will undoubtedly increase substantially post full release

[outer moth]

Who even said a DLC containing giga would even cost $5?
I see a full cretaceous sa pack selling for 10$ or even more depending on circumstance

[silver steeple]

I don't have those numbers on hand

[hollow furnace]

fair enough

[autumn plover]

Oh yeah tbf

[feral cedar]

Giga with Meraxes alt?

actually no Mapu alt

[autumn plover]

Making Giga would literally just be “take Carch, accentuate the chin”

[silver steeple]

Where can you see the full sales numbers btw?

[autumn plover]

Giga would be better with Mapu than Meraxes

[silver steeple]

Tbf knowing the PK devs, they'll likely do new texture work etc

[autumn plover]

I actually do wonder the devs stance on Giga

[silver steeple]

So it's probably more work than is actually necessary

[hollow furnace]

We can't, this is based on Mau telling us it a couple months ago

[autumn plover]

As far as I’m aware they haven’t really spoken about it for or against

[silver steeple]

Ah I see

[autumn plover]

Though I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t even want to touch the Giga debate

[feral cedar]

same, is it giga or jiga

[plush nacelle]

Mau last time released players chart and PK had 3.5k active players at peak per day

[outer moth]

And that's bound to increase the more popular this game gets

[plush nacelle]

According to steam play tracker PK has 6k active players now

[outer moth]

Holy moly

[silver steeple]

SteamDB says there's 119 in game rn

[plush nacelle]

Yes, but average recent play time is like 6 minutes per person lol

[outer moth]

I mean yeah I don't need to do a build rn so I don't always play PK
Many other players would have smth similar

Not everyone dumps hours into the game like some of us

[silver steeple]

Looks like highest recorded concurrent players in 2025 is 702

Highest peak ever is just over 2.5k at release over 3 years ago

[silver steeple]

Where are you getting this from

[plush nacelle]

From Mau

He posted this

[silver steeple]

Strange how that doesn't line up with what SteamDB says at all

Not saying Mau is lying

[plush nacelle]

That blue line is what steamdb shows

[silver steeple]

But SteamDB is usually treated as very accurate

Ah ok I understand now

SteamDB is only accounting for concurrent players

Not total over a day

[plush nacelle]

Yes

For example 3.5k players tried update 11 during release

[outer moth]

Let's be honest, that was a pretty big update

[golden canopy]

I mean it is still in early access so at full release it will probably have more players (if the game can contend with jwe3)

[short rover]

Nah conca would be awesome I’d prefer it over yang

Even tho Yang is also neat

[short rover]

Hell no I wouldn’t I’d be saying the same thing

[autumn plover]

Nah we already have 2 Carchs, we also have early Cretaceous European rep

We have no Metriacanthasaurs, Yang was once planned ages ago, we have no Jurassic Asian rep yet

[short rover]

Idc about the location really

[autumn plover]

Beside people only really care about Conca because of the fin

[short rover]

Conca has a unique size range and really interesting defining features not found in other theropods

Yeah because it’s neat

[autumn plover]

Have you not seen a Yang skeletal?

[short rover]

I have seen a yang skeletal many times

[autumn plover]

It’s an Allosaur that tried its hardest to look like an Abelisaur

[short rover]

Yes it’s funky I never said I didn’t want it

I said I’d prefer conca

I want both in the game one day ideally

[lean hound]

this chat feels more like community species argument than community species suggestions sometimes lol

[autumn plover]

Yeah and im saying Conca doesn’t bring as much to the table compared to Yang

I fully doubt the devs read it tbh

[lean hound]

They don't

maybe every now and then

[short rover]

Thank god

[lean hound]

not every animal has to be unique

[autumn plover]

It kind of helps

[short rover]

Every animal should be unique

[autumn plover]

When there’s no better alternatives sure, but not when there are better alternatives

In regards to not having to be unique

[hallow mango]

Real, lol, its pretty sad to see when people are always in the measuring contest of who looks simular or "bad pick" even though there really isnt such a thing lmao, its almost as bad as the arguments people make of whos the bigger therapod, rex, giga or spino lol

[lean hound]

I agree that the game should have variety but not to the point that most animals are the only ones from their family

[short rover]

True

[hallow mango]

or when a new person comes to the game with really no knowledge of dinosaurs and they request they should totally add something (their favorite dino or animal) and they get absolutely shit on for it lol

[autumn plover]

I don’t disagree with that but when we have some families that have no representatives and others that have 2, can you understand why some people may find 3 a little ridiculous when some families have nothing?

[short rover]

Also in regards to conca and yang I genuinely think that conca will stand out as more charismatic and unique towards most players than yang will, despite yang not being closely related to anything in the game. Its size and funky sail will leave more an impression I feel than yang which, while cool, I think would blend in more to the large theropods already in the game, even if it’s not closely related to any of them

[lean hound]

yeah I see your point (replying to ato)

[short rover]

If that makes sense

[lean hound]

but still not every family needs to be in the game

[hallow mango]

I think it eventually would come if people want it through dlc

[lean hound]

I'd much rather have a family with 4 genera than have a group with only one

[plush nacelle]

Frontier is adding literally new subspecies of asian elephant and you guys argue about giganotosaurus lol

[median relic]

tbh between conca and yang I am very close

we already have 2 carchs but no metris so errr idk

[steep tulip]

Conca fills in a size niche that we are lacking ingame

I love yang too but I wouldn't really mind to get conca pretty soon

[short rover]

Yeah but none of the carchs are small and have a unique sail so I feel the comparison isn’t very meaningful tbh

[median relic]

ye that's fair and why I'm very indifferent on whichever would be coming first

[plucky mantle]

Concavenator evolved exclusively to make sure Pelecanimimus could appear in PK without being in a formation all by itself, actually

little known fact

[short rover]

Foolish considering pelecani deserves a spot even if it was alone in that formation

[median relic]

hello?? based department?

[cinder python]

Prehistoric giraffe

[flint sable]

Deinocheirus

technically a Megatheropod and definitely is if tarbo is considered

[glass snow]

I really want campto, thesc and tenonto in the far future as we need more ornithoschian. They will function as the equivalents of zoo hoofstock.

would also fill some biomes campto being a mid size generic ornithoschian for Morrison, tenoto for acro and if deinon is added and thesc is hell creek filler.

also tenonto have unique body plan and thesc has some cool new discoveries. Campto though is kind of just filler.

[limber nexus]

Ehhhhhhh, the biggest selling points are the dinosaurs

[plush nacelle]

Disagree. The biggest selling points for this game are modular building and inclusion of non-dinosaur animals. Thats what literally separates PK and JWE

[quick ore]

agreed

[autumn plover]

i'd argue what separates PK from JWE is that PK isn't associated with the JP brand

[limber nexus]

Ehhhhh, that’s for you, but you’d genuinely be surprised about how many people don’t care about the mammals and just want pretty dinosaurs

It’s… a lot of people

[autumn plover]

^

[quick ore]

this game is loosely based off of Prehistoric Park too which also had a healthy mix of dinosaurs and non dinosaurs

[plush nacelle]

And all of them skew towards JWE

[autumn plover]

all?

I don't like JWE and i'm only here for the dinosaurs really

[plush nacelle]

Sure, most of them

[autumn plover]

You can't act like dinosaurs alone aren't an insane draw for this game, mammals may bring in a heavy crowd but dinosaurs are always going to be the star of the show

[limber nexus]

When I did the community poll, way more dinosaurs scored higher than mammals

[autumn plover]

^

i'd trust the guy whose actually got evidence

[limber nexus]

Unsurprisingly, 1st place is a dinosaur. There’s only 1 mammal in the top 10

[outer moth]

Wait when was the community poll vid?

[autumn plover]

I was wondering how is the video coming along?

[outer moth]

Is it still being done?

[limber nexus]

Yes, it’s just a really long ass video

[outer moth]

Why's it long?

[limber nexus]

I’m on family holiday rn, but last I worked on it, the audio is going quite well

[autumn plover]

you're doing the top 50 right?

[limber nexus]

At least 25 minutes and I would like to try a lot of new stuff on the editing

[limber nexus]

I’m mentioning EVERYTHING

So yes

The video is still coming

[autumn plover]

Anyway with a game like PK

theres really only one alternative to it being JWE which is not my cup of tea

others may not like how basic it is in comparison

In a market this barren there's not going to be a single draw

[limber nexus]

Yeah, mammals are cool and I’m hyped for more of them, and although I’m a bit upset that we aren’t getting many more for awhile, from a business perspective, I understand it

[autumn plover]

dinosaurs/modular building are probably the big 2

[outer moth]

Hence why PK has room to grow n thrive

[autumn plover]

but things like cenozoics, potentially aquatics/flyers will bring in their own crowd

[outer moth]

Could even bring a new croud

[autumn plover]

maybe if it was in a more crowded market like the "dinosaur simulators" it would need to stand out more

the isle is hardcore, BoB is pvp focused

PoT is more chill survival

[outer moth]

PrE is expensive

(Jk it has more bias on ecosystems n mastery)

[limber nexus]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Pot is honestly the most combat focused out of all of them.
But people should hopefully come for the dinosaurs and stay for some of the other mammals

[autumn plover]

that's fair

but come for dinosaurs, stay for the mammals is probably the thing in PK

[lean hound]

It’s not

The only relation is has to pp is Nigel

[quick ore]

there is zero way the game isn't at least partially inspired by it

[silver steeple]

Inspiration and relation are not the same thing

[autumn plover]

The concept of a park/zoo filled with dinosaurs isn’t novel to Prehistoric Park

The fact that the ones in this game are cloned instead of brought through time means it has more in common with JP than PP

[plush nacelle]

I am sure Planet Coaster and Cities: Skylines were inspiration for PK

At least directly mentioned by devs at some point

[hollow furnace]

There have been a lot of inspirations and sources for ideas for PK over the years

[median relic]

what is hoofstock btw

[plush nacelle]

ungulates

[hollow furnace]

Stuff like deer, antelope, etc. animals that sort of just act as filler

[median relic]

I see

I mean yeah I guess small-medium ornithischians of that caliber could be the dinosaur equivalent of hoofstock

[plush nacelle]

Not really fillers, because it includes rhinos and giraffes

[median relic]

but you can also just have.. actually extinct hoofstock lol

[hollow furnace]

Rhinos and giraffes aren't hoofstock under its usual use in describing zoological collections

they're a descriptive, not a taxonomic classification

[median relic]

rhinos and giraffes wouldn't count because they are kind of more distinct from the typical small-medium fast ungulate

so like synthetoceras would be very fun hoofstock because I like that animal

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-revengeance-oh-gif-9809189757491801304

[plush nacelle]

Huh. Giraffes and rhinos are hoofstock. This is simple zoological definition describing animals with hooves

[glass snow]

Hoofstock is kind of just a generic term in collections for goat, antelope, deer like animals.

like when used in zoological collections

like pz hoofstock are like the antelope and goats

[slim flare]

Do rhinoceros really have hooves?

[plush nacelle]

Ya. All zoos include rhinos in their hoofstock collections

[slim flare]

Sounds like “hoofstock” is just ungulates minus whales

[hollow furnace]

They most certainly do not lol

[lean hound]

sounds like "hoofstock" isn't anything in particular but you get a general idea of the main hoofstock animals imo

[plush nacelle]

Droid what are you talking about. Where do you think zoos group their giraffes and rhinos

[median relic]

I think anything of this general shape is good

[hollow furnace]

Rhinos have historically been pachyderms back when animals were usually grouped that way

[glass snow]

giraffes are hoofstock though

rhinos it varies

In most zoo games like planet zoo and zoo tycoon hoof stock was like antelope and deer

[median relic]

low priority but I'd love to see ornitholestes some day

[bleak garnet]

Dodo

[slim flare]

Based

[median relic]

stratodus would be a fun future aquatic

cretaceous fish that lived into the eocene

[outer moth]

Would be cool for sure

Love building smaller habitats

[cinder python]

If we’re talking about future aquatics Cretoxyrhina I think it would be interesting contain it comfortably since they require so much space

[median relic]

realistically I think trying to contain a non-filter feeding shark creto's size and up might be a bad idea

but it'd be fun for the game

[silver steeple]

Look we have the largest animals to ever live on land

I think its ok to stretch the imagination just a big to keep large sharks lol

Like there is literally no way we don't get Meg, and at that point cretoxy is a minnow by comparison

[median relic]

of course

that's what I'm saying lol

I only brought it up because they mentioned them requiring a lot of space

[cinder python]

I brought it up no aquarium have great whites because of space and getting a big shark would need a crazy amount of space

[median relic]

yes

[hollow furnace]

<@&181496074169614336>

[smoky spear]

mods are asleep

😔

[median flint]

nah

just elsewhere

[glass snow]

i love strat awesome fish

[inner wedge]

how about we get south american AND australian cenozoic both in the same expansion

[hollow flower]

Seems like a questionable idea

Considering that It would be far more efficient to make separate expansions

[outer moth]

I mean South America has like, a ton of diversity so SA would have 3 Cenozoic DLCs

Australia has its own issues

Well, issues isn’t exactly the word here

Australia is pretty diverse though

So it gets a few DLC of its own

[quick ore]

the only way I can see that work is if it is specifically a Metatherian pack

and you include 2 sparassodonts alongside some australian marsupials

[flint sable]

I mean

you could do a Gondwana Pack

but then also have seperate South American and Australian Packs

just like how PZ had the North America, South America, and Americas Packs

[waxen grail]

I’d love to see Albertosaurus and Gorgosaurus in the game eventually.

[hollow furnace]

Both would be awesome as an alt pair

[steep tulip]

Pleistocene needs its own australian pack

Like the obvious 4 choices, and maybe something else

Palorchestes, meiolania, dromornis

[waxen grail]

Stenonychosaurus/Latenivenatrix/Troodon would be interesting, or really any Troodontid for that matter.

[feral cedar]

I think Troodon formosus with Troodon sp. from Prince Creek and a Saurornithoides alt would be peak

[median relic]

why saurornithoides though, aside from being asian?

if you want an asian alt you could do zanabazar

[slim flare]

Sauro is more popular

[median relic]

how so

I don't hear about it often

unless you're talking about when it showed up in that one slopumentary

[feral cedar]

Saurornithoides is probably better-preserved

[outer moth]

I'm surprised we didn't get Placerias in PK

[feral cedar]

Saurornithoides would also give us a more desert-y troodontid skin

[outer moth]

Woulda been a nice addition to our Triassic roster

In fact, Triassics are hella underrated

[median relic]

I mean

how good is "better" for a troodontid lol

[hollow furnace]

It's very well preserved

[median relic]

seriously?

[hollow furnace]

And tbh a lot of troodontids are well preserved, just not their holotypes

[median relic]

that's fair

[median relic]

I'm mostly thinking of the derived troodontines

[hollow furnace]

They are as well

Again, it's an issue of the holotypes, not the animals as a whole

[feral cedar]

To be fair skull material for a holotype is amazing by troodontid standards

[outer moth]

I just thought up of a nice section for my park, only to remember there are only two genera

[median relic]

yes but not to the extent of the controversial genera

anyways yeah ok, I'm warming up to saurornithoides

[feral cedar]

good

Lovely lad

[outer moth]

There's definitely a lack in Triassic/Jurassic species in PK

[median relic]

at the same time, it just feels kind of unspecial

idk

[feral cedar]

Troodontids are definitely a one-and-done group imo. Like you really just need the one animal for them

[median relic]

ehh

troodontine and non troodontine

have alt troodontines in troodon, and whatever with the other

[outer moth]

I feel like it's an uderrated era, with all of the Cretaceous rep n all

[feral cedar]

To be fair the only notable troodontid that's not a troodontine to me is Jinfengopteryx

Which wouldn't be a bad inclusion

[outer moth]

In terms of troodontines, shouldn't we have T. formosus as our main flagship for PK?

[feral cedar]

I think so too, especially with the neotype paper

[outer moth]

Could have alts in Nemegt n Prince creek though

If those are ever named

I don't think any of our arctic troodonts are named

[hollow furnace]

Arctic troodon is teeth

[median relic]

yes

[hollow furnace]

And two braincases which have not been revisited since the early 2000s

[median relic]

actually, isn't the new assumption that arctic troodon just is troodon?

[hollow furnace]

that was always the assumption

[median relic]

oh

[hollow furnace]

It has never been proposed to be otherwise

[median relic]

I thought it had just been an unnamed animal

[hollow furnace]

It was

[median relic]

as in a new animal

[feral cedar]

I assume it's not diagnostic enough to determine either way

[hollow furnace]

It is teeth

so no

[feral cedar]

what about the brain cases?

[outer moth]

I'm just hella skeptical with troodonts

Because of their tricky fuckass tooth taxa shenanigains

The only species I'm even remotely not skeptical about is T. formosus

[hollow furnace]

lol

[outer moth]

Troodonts got me trippin

Like no other genus

Brotha

(Please keep in mind this was sarcastic)

[hollow furnace]

I assure you tooth taxa are far from the end of troodontines issues

[outer moth]

I'm sure there are other issues

[median relic]

you know how people don't like suggestions for human like apes? you know how people get frustrated with troodon?

lets add the dinosauroid

[outer moth]

I kinda hate it when Human-like Homonids are suggested yea

[median relic]

I was making a joke

[outer moth]

Troodon is just a step further

[outer moth]

Seems it flew over me
Seeing as I'm on that Kraken

[median relic]

joke detected

[outer moth]

No but genuinely

I'm still a little swoozy

But yeah

Seeing as T. formosus is still valid, I'll let it fly

[slim flare]

*if

[outer moth]

Apologies

If T. formosus is valid, I'll let it fly

[autumn plover]

I think Troodon for modus and the larger Prince creek troodont sp would be a great pair though

I wouldn’t support Saurornithoides as an alt though, even if it is well preserved

Not every animal needs to have an alt, even though some do make sense (Allosaurus/Parasauralophus/Pachyrhinosaurus)

It can make the original species less special

[steep tulip]

Well I do because troodontids kinda suck balls material wise so it would be a nice way to get 2 into 1

[autumn plover]

I mean you’d just use Saurornithoides to reconstruct Troodon anyway

It’s not going to look incredibly different lol

You’d already get two with formosus and sp

[steep tulip]

Exactly
Prince creek troodon is literally 2 scraps

And saurornithoides is known from better material so we can tell some differences at least

[autumn plover]

Well there is the size but ok, go on

[plush nacelle]

Suronithoides is desert one, right?

[steep tulip]

Yep

[plush nacelle]

Then it is very good addition, one desert, one boreal and one forest troodontid

[steep tulip]

💯

Saurornithoides lived with protoceratops, velociraptor, oviraptor, udanoceratops, halszkaraptor, pinacosaurus and citipati
2 already in the game, oviraptor possibly coming in ea
And all the others are very possible picks in the future
To me saurornithoides would add quite a bit to the game, especially since it's in such a great formation

[slim flare]

So why have the Prince Creek Troodontid?

[autumn plover]

Better to go with the Prince creek, more of a size difference between it and regular Troodon, more likely to actually be Troodon, even if it’s not guaranteed.

[steep tulip]

Then why don't just add laten or whatever its going to be called
There's really nothing special about it except its found in prince creek

[outer moth]

Doesn’t even have a name

I’m pretty sure species need to have a name to appear in PK

[steep tulip]

Its troodon sp. afaik

But it's all teeth and and braincase fragments
So basically non diagnostic material

[outer moth]

Not exactly enough to warrant a good addition

[slim flare]

So why not do Laten instead? Actually named, actually has good remains, actually comes from an interesting formation

[steep tulip]

I would be fine with it

I understand the appeal of an artict troodontid

But to say saurornithoides is worse is ehhh

[brave pier]

Laten might be a synonym of Steno/Troodon

[silver steeple]

Just wanna throw this into the ring

Artic troodontid also has history in PK

[steep tulip]

The made up animals formation

[silver steeple]

I mean it's all real material

Most is just not super diagnostic

[steep tulip]

Oh yeah
Not saying they didn't exist, but they either are attributed traits they didn't have (ugru and perotorum) or have so little material that what they actually looked like is mostly up to imagination
(Latter point is true for some other dinos as well, but imo nanuq is made to be much cooler than what we actually know)

[lean hound]

yeah isn't it just a jaw

[slim flare]

Yeah but this was before we knew Prince Creek sucked shit

Oops all fragmentary, dubious and it wasn’t actually that cold

[lean hound]

Still quite cold

[silver steeple]

Yet we still got the feathered Pachyrhino......

Perhaps the science doesn't matter in the face of the Rule of Cool???

[outer moth]

(We should've gotten a featherless version tbh)

[silver steeple]

L + no whimsy

[outer moth]

Just have 2 perotums

[steep tulip]

3 pachys is enough imo

[quaint plank]

There’s a pun

[waxen grail]

I feel like if Troodon/Stenonychosaurus was added then it should have Saurornithoides either as an alt or the base, and Latenivenatrix as either an alt species or just a larger variant (Alt species would make sense so it’s easier to tell which one is which). The third would either be Troodon/Stenonychosaurus itself, based on all of the North American remains attributed to that genus, or the Prince Creek Troodontid.

[kindred night]

While there are 3 current unique species of dinosaurs in Prehistoric Kingdom, why not add more? Africa is full of weird and unique dinosaurs.

Criteria needed for which dinosaurs I'd like to see added:

1. How complete the skeletal structure is.
2. How much research has been conducted.
3. How many source images are there to create a model to scientific accuracy.
4. How unique/iconic is the dinosaur (can include dinosaurs made popular by the JP and JW series)

Dinosaurs I would like to be added include:

Aardonyx
Afrovenator
Giraffatitan
Kentrosaurus
Kotasaurus
Kryptops
Lapparentsaurus
Lesothosaurus
Majungasaurus
Masiakasaurus
Nigersaurus
Suchomimus

[slim flare]

Perhaps art is forever and so are your mistakes

[steep tulip]

Giraffatitan mentioned

[quick ore]

disturbing lack of Malagasy dinosaurs here...

[kindred night]

Omg you're right :0

What about Majungasaurus, Rahonavis, Kotasaurus and Lapparentosaurus! 🔥

Aight editing.

[quick ore]

imo I would prefer Falcatakely over Rahonavis but it's still a good choice

[kindred night]

Noted 📝

[quick ore]

Masiakasaurus would also be nice even though its defining feature has become hidden with more accurate reconstructions lol

[neat iris]

Majunga, Beelzebufo and that giant lemur I don’t remember the name of would make excellent Madagascar rep

[steep tulip]

Archaeoindris

[quick ore]

I think we are only talking about dinosaurs rn

[neat iris]

I know

Just sayin

[steep tulip]

Masiaka has quite adaptations that seems to point out that it was specialised in digging out burrowing preys
I think that's pretty cool

[neat iris]

Majunga is the only Malagasy dino I know by name

[kindred night]

Ye, I am just speaking about dinosaurs but other extinct African animals would be cool to see as well.

[neat iris]

Oh yeah, that one too

[quick ore]

oh it is absolutely still a cool animal but it just has a bit less of a "wow" factor now

[steep tulip]

Fair enough

[outer moth]

No Masaika?

[kindred night]

It's been added. Go check my earlier post :D

It was a good point. It became popular thanks to Prehistoric Planet. B)

[heavy scarab]

Tanystropheus

[cinder python]

For a future aquatic update

[smoky spear]

no

should be feeder items

[flint sable]

no

that would make like zero economic sense

use squid if anything

[median relic]

never cook again

[neat iris]

Yeah, all that money spent cloning them just for them to be live food

A waste of the cloning budget

[cinder python]

Well a feeder can work clown a few make a breeding tank for them maybe can be a gimmick then feed your shark freaks (ptyhodus my beloved) but you sill can put a few for display and yes I know some of the images are ratfish

[toxic oriole]

The shell crusher!!!

[plush nacelle]

Realistically we probably wont be getting enough durophagous species for ammonite feeder to make sense

[neat iris]

Ammonites should be terrarium animals imo

[deep lake]

i dont like the second one... its nightmear fule

[lean hound]

yeah if the dinosaurs eat modern plants and meat they can eat modern cephalopods

[fringe solar]

A mi me gustaria que añadieran especies españolas al juego como por ejemplo: pelicamimus, aragosaurus , arenysaurus, concavenator, Riojasarus, Portellsaurus, Camarillasaurus, Europelta y Iberomesornis.

[smoky spear]

would you mind using english

[smoky spear]

We can clone extinct plants for herbivores to eat

I dont see how its different

[lean hound]

Making a plant and making a walking, talking (kinda) animal are two very different things

[heavy scarab]

In my dream version of the game which has a roster of 200 species not counting alternates. There would be 5 species of proboscideans.
Woolly Mammoth, American Mastodon, Deinotherium, Platybelodon and Straight Tusked Elephant with Dwarf Elephant as an alternate.

[left spear]

Why do you want them to suffocate

[neat iris]

?

[kindred night]

It's bc you said terrarium not aquarium lol

Object understood tho

[neat iris]

Well I figure that fully aquatic terrariums will be a thing if/when they add aquariums

[toxic oriole]

I don't understand anything you're saying

[lean hound]

I would like to see Spanish species added to the game, such as: Pelicamimus, Aragosaurus, Arenysaurus, Concavenator, Riojasarus, Portellsaurus, Camarillasaurus, Europelta, and Iberomesornis.

[smoky spear]

The only ones I can see being added from that list is conca and peli

[hollow flower]

Yeah

[left spear]

Really the only 2 truly unique spanish species, there other cool stuff but not really enough to make It in-game

Maybe iberimesornis, but idk

Jurassic birb

[hollow furnace]

Iberimesornis would be great assuming we get a bunch of bird terrariums

[left spear]

Yeah

Tho It may need to be a micro

Although i don't think birds would work in micros

So idk

Honestly a terrarium flyer DLC would be great

The 2 Megas, 1 or 2 bats, anurognathus and a couple of birds

[toxic oriole]

Iberimesornis? Hmmm

[left spear]

Same formation as Peli and Conc

[toxic oriole]

Wait just a damn minute, it just takes me to Iberomesornis

[left spear]

?

What

[toxic oriole]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberomesornis

Thats the bird

[left spear]

Yeah what

[toxic oriole]

AND ITS AN EARLY CRETACEOUS ONE?

[left spear]

Yes

125 million years old

Very unique for an early cretaceous Bird and shares formation with Conc and Peli

All around great to make a Las Hoyas trio

[toxic oriole]

And that one seems to be more of a modern day bird, doesnt it?

More of, but still not?

[hollow furnace]

It's not, it's an enantiornithine

Which were toothed

[toxic oriole]

So a similar Archaeopteryx situation

[left spear]

I mean superficially yes, taxonomically no

[toxic oriole]

Except its a little more closer to a modern bird given the reduced tail

[hollow furnace]

Further along the line

[left spear]

Las Hoyas also has Pagiophyllum, which is a pretty cool plant

[outer moth]

Pretty sure there were other avian-adjacent species at the same time as archaeoteryx, right?

[hollow furnace]

yes

There's a new site that includes a short-tailed avialan

[toxic oriole]

Every part of the cretaceous they started to become more and more like modern birds

[silver steeple]

Enantiornithines were a sister group to true aves

All went extinct during the KPG

[hollow flower]

Indeed

This I believe is a decent phylogenetic tree of them

[outer moth]

Hmm

Interesting Balaur inclusion there

Cue the 69th Balaur bondoc phylogenic discussion

[steep tulip]

oh didnt know hesperornis was so close to living birds
pretty neat

[leaden hedge]

I see that this list does include ducks

or at least duck equivalents

Simple: add duck

[smoky spear]

people are going to do battle royale with the dinosaurs already

i dont see how thats different

[flint sable]

plants are a lot easier to propogate than ammonites

[quick ore]

are any orthocones the right size to live comfortably in a fully aquatic terrarium?

[smoky spear]

Then why did they go extinct

[steep tulip]

Tbh it wouldn't be that hard to farm them if they had a short lifespan like modern cephalopods
Like the amount of babies they produce is a lot

Actually even if they didn't have a long lifespan, more if they reach sexual maturity quickly

[lean hound]

The difference is the game wouldn't be designed for battle royales whereas if ammonites were feeders it would be part of the game and would be 'unrealistic' (obviously the game is already unrealistic but ykwim)

[visual magnet]

"A large crowd of visitors gathers in front of an enclosure, all watching a peculiar giant creature. Gasps of surprise ripple through the crowd as a towering male Eremotherium rises up on its hind legs to reach for fruit hanging from a tree, then calmly sits down to eat it."

Well, who hasn’t imagined a scene like that? Ground sloths in a prehistoric park game.

That’s why I’m writing this post—to suggest a few species of giant sloths and their potential mechanics.

(Before anything else, I made this for fun. English isn’t my native language, so don’t take it too seriously if something is written incorrectly.)

To begin with, this group of animals would follow a model similar to the one the devs used for Paraceratherium: two species that are “relatively” close and similar in size, plus a third species to add variety.
I would give each model a unique and distinct design:

The species I propose are:

Megatherium americanum: ⭐⭐⭐⭐
A sloth from the Megatheriidae family that lived in the cool pampas of South America during the Pleistocene. It had a very robust build.

I’d give it a somewhat classic design, with thick brown fur. Its differences from Eremotherium would be a more robust build, changes in the skull and limbs, and a slightly longer tail

Eremotherium laurillardi: ⭐⭐⭐⭐
Another giant sloth from the Megatheriidae family that lived in forested and jungle areas from Florida to Brazil during the Pleistocene. Similar in size to Megatherium, but with a lighter build.

It would have a less robust build, changes in the face and limbs, and a shorter tail. I’d also give it gray skin with little hair (similar to modern elephants, as seen in panel).

Megalonyx jeffersoni: ⭐⭐
A medium-sized sloth from the Megalonychidae family that lived in forests and semi-open areas across much of North America during the Pleistocene, even reaching as far as Alaska.

This one would have a slightly bolder design, maybe with some pattern on its fur (as seen in reconstructions). It would need to have thick fur, as it lived in higher latitudes.

[hollow flower]

Im a big fan of the picture design

And a very thorough overlook of the attributes they would have ingame

[plush nacelle]

You mean megalonyx as alt species for mega / ereme?

Absolutely doesnt work

[left spear]

Honestly you could post all of this in the fanart channel

Really cool

[sharp dock]

devour all slosu

toast them to a crisp

[hollow flower]

I do think Eremo should be an alt of Megatherium

After that im not sure what other terrestrial giant ground sloth should be added

[low bridge]

Cap Eremo is built different than Megatherium

Smaller sloth will be better

Shasta Ground Sloth

[hollow flower]

There are about 2 noticeable differences for these two

[low bridge]

Equus Capensis was the reason why word Cap exists

[visual magnet]

They could add Megatherium and Eremotherium together, as they did with Brontosaurus and Apatosaurus.
But I'm happy with just two species, one northern and one southern.

[low bridge]

How everyone rate Syncerus Antiqqus?

[tawny void]

Some of this for water enclosure or ice age 🤣😅

[slim flare]

Those definitely aren’t “Ice Age” in age

[flint sable]

ammonites went extinct because of extinction debt caused by the KPG Extinction Event

[lean hound]

people just see any Cenozoic animal and assume they're from the ice age

[slim flare]

Unfortunately

[low bridge]

This is my list of weird mammals that would Fit in game

.........

[safe kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-gif-26204683

[flint sable]

welcome back

[sharp dock]

I see the influence of big fossil here.... very disturbing.....

[junior glacier]

To keep this fresh, I once again submit crassigyrinus scoticus as an exhibit animal, would love to have him as a nod to Prehistoric Park, and give us another water fellow alongside Tiktaalik

[slim flare]

I once again submit Deinonychus until it is done

[low bridge]

Not for long

[quick ore]

why would you say that

[somber osprey]

gigantopithecus blacki

[neat iris]

If we only ever get one primate, PLEASE let it be that one!

Hopefully we don’t get just one tho

[somber osprey]

man, i really want put him to fight against a dinossaur

like a king kong

[slow shoal]

bro would get eviscerated 😔

keep in mind these are more probable size estimates

[silver steeple]

Yeah Giganto is like barely larger than a gorilla at best

[glass snow]

a jurassic patch after ea would be great maybe dippy, cerato, campto and ormitholestes.

[somber osprey]

i know😭

[median relic]

gigantopithecus is neat but in terms of physicality it has to be the most overrated extinct animal ever lol

tricked everyone into thinking it was some kind of real life kong or bigfoot

[somber osprey]

but fight against a medium or small animals like a coelophysis, velocirraptor, dilophossaurus...

[median relic]

dilophosaurus would turn gigantopithecus into ribbons and mist sadly

[silver steeple]

Reminder that leopards commonly hunt and kill gorillas

[quick ore]

we only have jawbones too

if we are to get any large primate I would rather get a giant lemur, at least we have a good idea about what they looked like

[hollow furnace]

Imagine wanting a primate and not including Darwinius

[median relic]

right

[solemn cedar]

What do the dotted lines mean

[hollow furnace]

Uncertain position I think

[neat iris]

I’ll do you one better: a primate dlc with Darwinius, Gigantopithecus, Dinopithecus, and a giant lemur

Not that I’m really sure they’d do a dlc completely dedicated to one group/family of animals

[quick ore]

feels very unlikely imo

[steep tulip]

They could do a madagascar dlc

Majunga masiaka archaeoindris elephant bird and some maeravano minis

Then we get kaprosuchus with mahajangasuchus alt

There's also sloth lemurs and voay that I want to see

[somber osprey]

"DLC"😔

[steep tulip]

Expansion pack?
Additional content?

[hollow flower]

I agree on the additions although I personally think Majunga should probably either be base game or maybe some other expansion

[steep tulip]

I can see majunga being put somewhere else, but it would be like the pack main selling point imo

Tho could be annoying for other people that don't care about the others

Probably my fav majunga recon

or this one

[sharp dock]

that's a pretty artwork

[left spear]

Then they just have bad taste

Madagascar expansion with those, a map and maybe a building set would be fire

[steep tulip]

🗣️ 🗣️
factual

[winter obsidian]

deinosuchus should be “easy “ to add since they can have the same animation of spinosaurus when swimming and sleeping :))

[steep tulip]

They would need a completely new rig tbh