#Community Species Suggestions
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Olduvai Gorge is sicker than Ngorora
Ngl most of these animals look so trippy in modern standards
Like cmon
We had elephant sized creodonts
Most look so familiar, yet so strange
Let's add nothing and build exhibits for same animals for next 5 years answer
What?
Dude u want no more mammals to appear in game so what you gonna build in game?
Theres far better mammals to add than bear N.4
Pleistocene Africa was different in mammals ofc
Syncerus Antiqqus is needed
Sivatherium
first of all don't call me "dude"
second of all, have you not seen me suggest all sorts of mammals before?
why do you keep capitalizing the second word in species names
Bc extinct species of living genus like Panthera in game both extinct and extant
That's all
Your sentence doesn't make sense idek what you just tried to say
capitalizing the second word in species names goes against binomial nomenclature
Chill down
This getting heated in the "throw animal names to the void and hope one sticks" fandom
Indeed
These are just some of the animals on my wishlist
also I wasn't having zero chill by asking to not be called "dude" it's just that I'm a woman so I would prefer to not be called that
Tbh EZ is heading towards a warning at this rate
You don't say
Sorry sorry i don't knowed at first
I don't watch people profiles on discord so sorry if you want to ban just ban me
Either that“s a big ass carnivore,or that“s a small ass elephant-
3 stegosaurus species: S. stenops, ungulatus, and sulcatus
Shantungosaurus and Carnotaurus, maybe other abellisaurids
Like majungasaurus because I feel like the medium carnivores niche has not been filled.
Ban me pls
if you want to leave so bad just leave
He wants a ban
Just go
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(It's kinda shitposty don't mind it)
(Not actually contributing anything until this topic changes)
Insert Mega Mushroom sound effect here
Cuz it just feels like something pretty rough is going on here so Imma wait before I can plug a species
Just do it anyway
OMG IT LITERALLY IS THAT
Hmmm
I just want them to resurrect Cloverly after gutting it so bad in EA
Acro needs his friendgroup
Or should I say his own Whatsapp group
Idk now that Acro is slightly outdated im less bothered about cloverly, but I get what you mean
Saying that as Acro is my favourite dinosaur
I don't care about the arguements that ppl have towards the animals of the formation (seeing as some of them are scrapped)
Deinon isn't exactly easily replacable by Velo
And the other species aren't exactly replaceable by any others
Yeah I understand that
(In terms of rigging/niche in the game)
Iād argue Utah could fit in decently for Deinon, while being bigger. But yeah Teno was a complete and utter loss
Tenonto is a good addition and I really want devs to rethink that decision later on after EA
Itās still the only animal of the 4 cut species that I really disagree with cutting
I wasnāt that bothered by the other 3 as much as Teno
I want them to basically resurrect the FF in new and refreshed ways to make them feel unique
FF?
Forbidden four
Oh
The scrapped 4 species
I was gonna say FF meant Foo Fighters
The only one I don't see coming back would be Notho
In favor of a cooler North American Theri
If you want a therizinosaurid you have Therizinosaurus, Falcarius, and even Beipiaosaurus that are better choices
(cough Falcarius cough)
Not criticising the devs choices here, but frankly Iām surprised that Nothronychus was ever planned
Ngl I liked their underrated picks
Helps the game not feel stale with the same old popular dinosaurs
It was defo underrated
But so would Falcarius
While being more distinct from Therizino
By introducing new animals that not many ppl ever heard of
Remember
Roughly like, 90% of the world has only ever seen JP/JW in terms of paleomedia
Yeah
But Iād say Nothronychus and Falcarius
Are equally unknown
But Falcarius is more distinct from the popular Therizinosaurus
So Iām surprised the devs ever chose Nothro
Surely they had to have predicted if the game ever took off that theyād probably end up adding Theri at some point
So Iām just surprised they went with Nothro
I feel like theri ought to get more material before being added to the game
Theri has only been in JW
And PhP
And chased by dinosaurs
You should definitely watch it dude
I definitely should
They did one about Giga/Argentino (back when Giga was thought to hunt Argent)
One about Therizino
And a think multiple episodes about the most dangerous seas
Ngl
I don't get the Giganotosaurus hate
Yes it's popular
Yes it's a megatherapod
But it can always be added in a DLC
My thoughts on Giga are
Rewind 2 years ago
If you would have asked me Giga or Carcha I would have chosen Giga to be added over Carcha
Itās more complete and has better alt skin potential, and is more popular
But Carcha got added.
I feel like Carcha got added purely to fit with Spino
And now the only reason to add Giga is to use its name recognition to milk fanboys and craft a dlc where Gigaās name recognition generates enough sales to pay for the addition of like 4-5 other genera tbat otherwise wouldnāt be popular enough to add.
And jpog
I mean, Giga's one of the more complete members of the Carch family
Alongside Acro and Conca
Because being honest, you give Carch a bigger chin and ridges over the eyes you basically have Giga
The only thing it would bring to the game is name recognition
I feel like they could put a lot more differentiation into Giga
Like some sort of back detailing and color palette/pattern changes to really seal the feel
Some people genuinely want giga and calling them fanboys really isn't helping the vibe of this community
Yes we have a lot of megatheropods
but
Eh, itās only asked for because itās popular š¤·
Giga is just a part of many people's hearts, just like Acro is to mine
It doesnāt actually bring anything outside of name recognition
But use that name recognition
Milk the fans and get more animals into the game
Nothing wrong with having Giga as your favourite dinosaur, but it is what it is
I feel like in terms of Megatheropods, all I need is giga and after that, I would be pretty satisfied on megatheropods in general
I think itās coming anyway, but they should defo put some lesser known animals in whatever dlc it comes with
Giga would absolutely sell a Cretaceous South America pack
Seeing as PK's DLCs have a lot more potential than PZ
If we ever do get Giga it would need to come with Mapu though
Giga could be solitary and Mapu could be social
And Mapu was the one that actually lived alongside Argentinosaurus
But again
Only to sell a dlc filled with other animals
Said animals would be pretty good picks since Cretaceous SA is hella diverse
Early or Late, it doesn't matter
I donāt even think they need to be from Cretaceous SA
Just any animals that wouldnāt have sold a dlc on their own
Cretaceous SA just sells it better
Cuz it has a theme behind it
Nah
You could put 5 animals that were all varying types of coprolite alongside Giga and the dlc would still sell just off Gigaās name recognition
True, but I prefer this stick to the theme so it actually concedes well
That way the roster could actually be well-planned in advance
(I see this DLC happening after Aviaries/Aquatics for some sorta Tapejarid in said DLC)
wow
Cancer Centrosaurus when??
In my opinion I feel like the devs could sell dlcs with both cenozoics and mesozoics in the same dlc
In my opinion no. Better to flesh out single thing than trying add everything at once
It would work better, if devs could magically make lots of animals at once
I would probably pick Majunga, Elephant bird, Archaeoindris, and then maybe Razanandrongobe, probably also a beelzebufo mini
Speaking of Razanan
What is it with giant terrestrial crocodiles only being known from skull material?
I thought it was related to Boverisuchus via the similar name
As it turns out it isnt
It could be barinasuchus alt
Since barina is mostly reconstructed based on it
I got interesting idea for a poll with barinasuchus
Go for it
this is a man in a suit
Oooo I love the prehistoric Crocodyliformes!! My fave is Kaprosuchus because of how many really cool unique traits it has, so Iām really hoping they add it one day! however palaeontologists have only ever found a skull so the rest of its biology is pretty speculative. Honesty Iād be happy with any unique crocodilians!
A carnotaur or baryonix āŗļø
baryonyx is confirmed for ea
probably update 18
Sebecus is superior because then you can put it in the same formation as Niolamia and if you have Niolamia you are basically required to include Meiolania which PK deserves because he is just a humble dude
Yeah, I love the current mammals in Prehistoric Kingdom, but something I would like are more unique mammals, as Paracera is the only one like nothing today
Sarmiento formation has some fun minis
Peltephilus and Necrolestes
And largest madstoia species
Thanks grugalius
Probably was like a Cuban croc, so a lot more terrestrial than nile or salties but still very much semi-waterbound
Everyone pray for him
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Deinosuchus is a must
I must say I always found it to be the most boring of them but that is fair
Its definetly the most known these days I believe
Indeed it is
I wonder why its soared in search results?
I'd prefer sarco and puru but deino is so popular it's needed if crocs get added
Top 3 countries into puru are Brasil, Peru and Poland
Indeed
However Brazil is the only one where its the dominant search result
Peru is a draw and Poland has Sarco
Likely because there have been a couple publications in the last few years + Ark added it within the last year or so
- the isle has had it for a while
Iād like Deinosuchus or Sarcosuchus most personally
deino with purussaurus alt would be ideal
leaving sarcosuchus out would be kinda a shame
maybe it'll join the clones like giga and ornitho
All of them are to different from each other to be alts
Deino and purru alt wouldnāt work
Itās debated whether it was primarily a land predator or semi-aquatic but the latter is the more widely accepted theory because itās relative is Mahajangasuchus which is thought to be semi aquatic
Itās hard to be definitive though because we only have the skull
sarcosuchus fell off so hard and its not even funny
The isle i imagine
Dodo
Is deinosuchus still confirmed?
Ah, gotcha
Aviary wishlist
Tbh Iād rather have Ramph, pterodaustro, dsunga etc over hatze
At least for base game
Theyād be great too, these are just the species I want the most
But it is definitely needed as DLC
Aquarium/semi-aquatic wishlist (again, just the ones I want the most)
Wait, I forgot one
Terrarium wishlist
Mononykus
No dont let arthropleura be terrarium please
I want to make a big hapitait for my boy arthropleura
Yeah, I didnāt want to put that one into the terrarium category, but compsognathus is going to be a terrarium animal, soā¦
Well arthropleura is 2.7 meters long so it woutent make sence
And i dont know if i like tirarriums becaus i love to make a hapitait my self
Iād assume thatās mostly because of how many legs it has?
Legs mostly
That and its somewhat serpentine shape
Its why Titanoboa would have to be a mini aswell
On the bright side, it would make for a great Anaconda Analog for if anyone makes a reptile house.
Give up then. We already know devs stance on arthropods
Straight up into terrariums
Dammit, I forgot to put that one in there
PK Barinasuchus - which one is better
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Based on Sebecus + alt
If you want to make a bigger exhibit you can just put multiple terrariums together too
Or just turn off the barriers and blend it into a larger implied exhibit
Deinosuchus might be coming already
MIGHT
Dinosaur wishlist
What's the raptor and spinosaurid
That's what I was kinda thinking lmao
I imagine if itās Sucho, surely they must know Bary is confirmed
Deinonychus and suchomimus
Well Iām pretty sure baryonyx might already be coming
Deinon is good
Paleozoic/Triassic wishlist (I didnāt include dimetrodon because apparently itās very likely)
Awful lack of cotylorhynchus
wher coty
On vacation.
fair
Itās 100% likely
Infact, confirmed
do we know how many alts it will have
because there is a ton of variation within that genus
I want D. gigahomogenes because it has the funky sail and D. angelensis because it's enormous + one random smaller species
All the smaller ones are similar enough that you can really interchange them
Cenozoic wishlist
I can see Aenocyon Dirus in one picture, either Doedicirus or Glyptodon in another, Megalania in yet another, Gigantopithecus in one more, and what I think is meant to be Procoptodon? Deinotherium too and... Is that a mastodon?
I know theres two terror birds in there, don't know which ones they are
No idea if that last one is meant to be Josephoartigasia, even if it never was a capybara thats for sure.
A short faced bear of some sorts, probably a giant one
May have forgotten the names of a few of the animals
Wait a second arent some of those on the Post EA ideas list?
First Image: Mastodon, Sivatherium, Toxodon, Dire Wolf, Gastornis. Second Image: Gigantopithicus, Phorusrhacos, Glyptodon, Short faced bear. Third image: Chalicotherium, (unsure, probably Eohippus or Hyracotherium, some sort of primitive equid or equid-like), (unsure, I believe Amphicyon), Deinotherium. Fourth Image: Procoptodon, Megalania, Thylacoleo, Diprotodon
Eohippus and amphicyon
Gastornis and Phorusracos
Diprotodon
Glyptodon; Iām pretty sure doedicurus is likely to be added
Wait, I forgot one
Yeh. I agree with this one for a wishlist.
i hope we get a trunked and trunkless skin for this one
Alts in current form are boardline ,,reskin,, species or with very similar proportion to main animal.
Meanwhile puru and deino are distinguishable at first glance
to me they are the same
they are both big boyz 
also it would be a shame not to give good use to a croc rig with the top 3 megacrocs (sarcosuchus technically aint a croc but still)
neither is deino now
we need the sarcosuchus so i can get the sweet shared formation bonus with ouranosaurus
bonus as in free meal
the schnozzler
id hope they dont IMO
it would be kinda like adding a featherless skin to velo if they added a trunked one
since we are almost certain that it didnt have a trunk in life
im not stopping the devs or anything thats just my take
Replace deinotherium with platybelodon and Iām in
actually rethinking it
deino is better since it synergies with more animals that are in or are likely to get in the game
:D
I feel like all 3 have enough going for them for them all to be added
The real question is if there are any other big crocs that should be added
Not rlly
Besides Stomatosuchus or Fasolasuchus, there aren't many other large predatory pseudosuchians to really add to PK
I'm honestly surprised they're sleeping on triassic herbivorous weirdos
Not because its a bad addition but due to how different it is
True
In that case, some sorta large sebecid
Stomatos probably the other best one to add
And while this isnt a crocodile Phytosaurs aswell
Eh, I see phytosaurs being a DLC addition
In terms of phytosaurs, I feel like only like, one or two species might ever be introduced
In my opinion, if they want more crocs, we could have something like Silesaurus or Desmatosuchus
Or more accurately they dont differ too much from each other
You mean Sillosuchus?
Sile is a dinosaurid type of thing last time I checked
Yeah, the larger herbivorous weirdos
I gotta agree
Sillosuchus
Iām happy as long as we get deino and sarco
Thats actually given me a park idea
Im more of a Puru man myself but yes
Hot take: I think weāre good on hadrosaurs and ceratopsians, at least for now
Cats too, although I wouldnāt mind homotherium or dinofelis
Yeah
Which I do love but others need prioritizing
I should make a triassic wish list
Second favourite time period for me
Hot take: we could use some smaller ornithopods
I must say Im not an ornithopod expert
Campto or Tenonto could be some of those
Smaller tier species
(I mean, not small on our scale, but smaller compared to most other ornithopods)
As for ceratopsians, one more centrosaur would do for now
And I still do not understand the removal of Teno
Do keep in mind there's a lot of megatheropod/sauropod bias
Campto however I would like to see later than something like Allo, Diplo, Cerato
I feel like it could come alongside those animals you listed
Yeah thats fair
Seeing as those are all Jurassic
Oh and Stego
Stego's in EA
Speaking of which we do know when Allo and Stego are dropping
EA
Possibly next year
So this really is just Diplo and Cerato
Id like to see some small carnivore from the Morrisson too
Be it Ornitholestes or Stokesosaurus
Diplo, Cerato, Guanlong, Miragia are the 4 that are from the original roster
I heard theres some talks it might be Dacen
Alcova is the one from the Morrison
Unless im misremembering
I think it was just the presence of a dacentrurine
Either way I wouldnt really count it as a morrison creature
The dacent merge debate is pretty hard since it proposes both that Mira is a junior synonym of Dacent
Though we don't know if that's truly the case or not
Speculative recently extinct dlc I made almost three years ago now; I guess you could call it a wishlist
I mean, minus the eagle n SSC, it's accurate to the original DLC concept
(Yes the original concept had the HE and SSC but now those might not be in the RE DLC)
I must say I have become a huge fan of the Haasts eagle
If there was an animal I was most excited for purely due to the fighting capabilities they could do Haast is at the top
It's just that the Haast's eagle and Sea cow are animals that require aviaries and aquariums respectively, so I wouldn't be surprised if they came later than the rest
Hopefully the last update of this year, 17
That is fair
Elephant bird could probably also make it into the RE
Pidgeon can stay since they can be a part of the new terrariums system
However its a little too similar to Moa
So you could probably put it in like an island pack or something
I prefer Moa first tbh
Aepyornis could come later
I say just stick to a specific bodytype and do 3 species of that
Since Moas have many phenotypes
Genus Dinornis has 2 species so that'll work
Dinornis robustus/novaezealandiae, Pachyornis australis/elephantophus, Megalapteryx, and Anomalopteryx as a mini
Although if I had to remove one of these Megalapteryx is going first
Not rhinos
Also it should be the alt of Pachyornis
Oh yeah
Theyre more horses than rhinos
Fascinating
However I would still sort of categorize them as rhino like
Elephant birdā¦
Remember, it's a 3 animal limit, so it's hard to include ALL 9 species
So I say just to keep Dinornis to 2 species
Yeah
Pachy already has 3 species
At most have 3 genus of moa excluding alts
The mantell moa is kind of mid so id say have the upland moa instead
They did???
Yeah it had those animals in the concept art
For the DLC
Goal wan't really met
It and special exhibits were the only stretch goals not met
And we already got special exhibits
We do know that RE is planned to be one of the first major dlcs
Ranger was unlockedā¦
It's back now, though probably with the exception of the Sea Cow and Eagle, of course
Unless devs figure out both aviaries and aquatics before RE
Which they will not if RE is one of the first DLCs
Kill?
As in ranger mode was killed
I have a random question, it has been speculated that Palaeoloxodon will eventually be added. I know this means the Dwarf Elephant will likely be an alternative species but which exact species of the regular Palaeoloxodon will the other be?
I imagine antiquus
I feel like itās potentially be a three-species falconeri, antiquus, and namadicus
Dwarf, standard, giant
don't care + headcanon, maccy WILL have the trunk whether you like it or not
trunked maccy is cringe and bad
I have to agree
trunked maccy was promised to this game 2 million years ago
nuh uh
I ve got a feeling that dwarf paleos cant work as alts to big ones.
But thats just me
I feel like the new neoteny system could definetly make it work
Interesting idea on paper, but in practice extreme size difference would require different animations for both
The new FP mode is basically that tbh
Kind of, in a much reduced form
No vehicles for instance
They even said that they hope to make it so you can interact with the animals
They said that the only way we get vehicles is for players
So that would basically be the same deal
I tried to send this list of suggestions for Paleozoics and mesozoic non-dinosaurs. I doubt weāll get many, so I tried to make it the most important:
And yes, im aware that Postosuchus and Placerias/Lisowicia are on the post EA ideas list.
Size isn't the only reason things will be in terrariums
Difficult to animate stuff (like snakes and arthropluera) would also be in them
That makes sense
I have no doubts we'll get at least a couple big carbo bugs
and critters with fucked up reproduction like Every Amphibian or Non-Livebearing Fish right
Especially an arthropod, which are kind of the poster children of the Carboniferous.
Temnospondyls have very normal growth cycles
What do people think about the other suggestions.
They don't undergo metamorphosis
they are bound to water though
i don't think i mean that? i'm referring to the fact that most amphibians, temnospondyls included, still do gelatinous egg masses and small larval gilled forms
Yes
Which of these animals/creatures that gived early humans nightmares you choose? Halloween Edition
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Thylacoleo
harder to do "nesting" when the eggs are tiny and barely visible and also can't just pop into existence
Droid is correct that said eggs would be water bound though so there would have to be something going on there
Well if it's a mass of eggs just make it a mass of eggs
The individual eggs may not be super visible but if there's like 100s you're gonna see it lol
fair
although then you still have to figure out how the larvae work - would they just "spawn in" as their land form?
thats the other thing, i imagine there would be a pretty big size disparity between adult and hatchling
Tbh idk if we know what temnospondyl babies would be capable of
at least some have like, weak skeletons and gill arches
so there was probably some water-land transition going on iirc
Plus I'm pretty sure most of the animals in the game's babies are too large to be hatchlings/newborns
fair
in that case mayhaps they could just start with their terrestrial stage
They're all like at least a couple months old I believe
I'd say roughly 1 1/2 month old for all species
Mechanic-wise, Arthropleura would have to be a terrarium animal.
Yeah I know now.
I kind of regret suggesting Arthropleura as everyone seemed to hyperfixate on it belonging in terrariums instead of discussing the other species
Lystrosaurus ngl might be better than Diictodon as a burrowing terrarium.
Lystrosaurus is taco sized.
Or what other paleozoics would be a good choice
Not the type species.
No but no reason to limit it to a terrarium species when it has species big enough to be fully exhibit species
murrayi is the most popular species and itās a burrower.
Lystro to me is like the workhorse of them, its definitly not the most popular but was so widespread and successful it kind of works as good padding.
+incredible alt potential
I'd much rather have some more small exhibit species + more temperate/arid species so going with one of the large Lystrosaurus as a full exhibit species feels much more useful than picking the type and slapping it in a terrarium where it'll get way less use than a full exhibit species
It technically has zero alt potential based on what we consider alts
Because it only has one species large enough to be a full exhibit and terrarium animals donāt have alts
oh right, thats a fair point, i'd say its a worthy addition regardless
especially alongside Placerias/Lisowicia
Plus given Thrinaxodon is essentially hinted at, Lystro would go with it in a formation.
Lystrosaurus is probably the most well understood Dicynodont and also by far the most well known
it would be really weird to not include it in some way
What do people think of my other choices?
Really good.
Anteosaurus would be a welcome choice as well.
Along with Cotylorhynchus.
And Estemmenosuchus.
and it was like 95% of earth's animals of once point
Unfortunately I know that Mau doesn't like Coty so I wanted my list to be realistic
Lystrosaurus had the adaptability of a raccoon.
Hasnāt stopped the dev team in the past.
Besides the obvious another reason I always liked Coty is you can totally give it Casea as an alt species
Casea is tiny
Casea is four feet long
I would say have Liso with a Placerias alt
the problem is Liso is very unique in terms of dicynodonts and its not due to the massive size alone
The straight legs of it give it a rather unique posture
Anatomy-wise it wouldnāt work with an alt.
Precisely
This makes dicynodonts a little difficult to work with in terms of additions
hence why I say either Lisowicia or Placerias
not everything needs to be an alt lol
You sound as if alt potential is a requirement, when it's just the cherry on top
Yeah, not every species needs one
One example?
Deinosuchus
Or
Therizinosaurus
Those animals definitely don't deserve alts despite having adjacent species/genera linked to them
^
Deinosuchus and it's other species just aren't different enough to be seperated
And Theri is weird enough on it's own, what if new discoveries completely overhaul the animal?
i'd say the only time alt potential counts for/against a potential addition is when it's neck and neck against another potential addition.
That or if it has distinguishable enough species (via ontogeny)
Diicto
Simply due to the fact that diictodon is more iconic
(Thanks to WWM)
And plus, most Lystrosaurs are big enough to be habitat animals
Iād rather get Diictodon in the terrariums, the big species of Lystrosaurus and either Lisowicia or Placerias as full additions.
That's more of a restoration preference if anything tho, we lack hip material
I mean, all derived dicynodonts have upright hind limbs, thatās not the unique part of Lisowicia
Itās the upright stance of the forelimbs thatās unique
We have a humerus and a partial shoulder blade IIRC tho; can't really check that in depth atm tho
Nuh. Theri is prime alt material. In game animal would be either big alxasaurus or nothronychus with different claw shape. In this case devs could literally scale down one skin and it would work as other species
I hope you realize that was almost certainly a joke
They are by size but that's about it
It's not a joke, but also not enough to genuinely mean it won't come
Somehow I doubt that it isn't a joke
Very much something that Mau would joke about to illicit a reaction from the denizens of #pk-discussion
I wonder why
Strange
Most Lystrosaurus species arenāt.
Literally the only reason everybody thinks Lystrosaurus is generally large is because of WWM oversizing L. murrayi.
Even the one large species isnāt really as well studied.
To be honest, the Walking With Series in general has had a notable history of over sizing/undersizing animals.
Cough Cough Practically 100 Foot Long Liopleurodon Cough
Not to mention I think there are a number of other Synapsids that could fill in a hypothetical Lystrosaurus Role.
This is universal knowledge.
I donāt understand everybodyās objection to a terrarium Lystrosaurus.
I think I laid it out pretty clearly why I object to it before. L. maccaigi is large enough to be a full exhibit animal. The game desperately needs more small exhibit animals. Exhibit animals are more useful in a park and the game could always use more temperate/drier climate animals.
I'd rather they save terrarium species for animals that won't work well outside of them, because let's face it, terrarium animals will always be less impactful to a park because of the limitations they have. Throwing a species in a terrarium that could work very easily outside of it feels like it's making the animal less useful than it could be
My most wanted species: Gigantopithecus, Dire Wolf, Quetzalcoatlus, Therizinosaurus, Mosasaurus, Deinosuchus
Come to think of it it might be L. curvatus that was the big one.
Yet even it was tiny.
I think its just that when I think of a terrarium sized dicynodont the first thing that comes up is Diictodon
??? It's literally over a meter long in this image and considering it doesn't have the tail of Psittacosaurus it'd be very comparable in size if not slightly larger
Also multiple sources I've found indicate L. maccaigi is the largest species and got over 2 meters long
even the DeviantArt page your L. maccaigi artwork is from says that lmao
https://peerj.com/articles/10408/ this paper also discusses how several other species of Lystrosaurus were likely in a similar size-vein to L. maccaigi and L. curvatus and that we only have juvenile specimens and that even the largest L. maccaigi specimens are not fully grown
Lystrosaurus was one of the few tetrapods to survive the end-Permian mass extinction (EPME), the most catastrophic biotic crisis in Phanerozoic history. The significant increased abundance of this genus during the post-extinction Early Triassic recovery period has made Lystrosaurus an iconic survivor taxon globally and ideal for studying changes...
tbh i want terrarium animals like compies and lystrosaurus to be able to run free and be wild exhibit creatures. it would be very funny but also it would probably be hell to deal with
I know we are a long ways away from aquatics but I love Crinoids especially Scyphocrinites one of the largest I think we have a 5 star animal on are hands
Scyphorchrinus unfortunately did not actually float like this
but the longest echinoderm ever was a driftwood specialist crinoid
Even if it just sits there on the floor I still love it
https://www.scup.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1502-3931.2007.00011.x adding onto this, this article talks about how L. maccaigi could get over 3 meters long
so yeah. Literally no reason to stick a 3 meter long animal into a terrarium I'm sorry
Tiktaalik
Yeah I still think Tiktaalik is a dumb decision to be a terrarium species but I also get why they did it. Not really a reason for Lystrosaurus
tbf they did also go within possible estimates for Tiktaalik, they didn't just shrink it down to fit
So long as they could make baby Lystrosaurus work, I see no reason why it couldn't be an exhibit animal. I mean they lived in large groups too right? So a terrarium wouldn't even suitably represent how they lived in life
They were burrowers though.
Being a burrower doesn't mean they have to be in a terrarium
Psittacosaurus is a burrower
Velociraptor, Leallynasaura, Psittacosaurus
Secondarily.
It didnāt have the right adaptations for digging.
Lystrosaurus was likely a digger on the other hand.
if Psittacosaurus wasnt a burrower, then wtf was it doing in the winter
there was snow and it is almost entirely naked
Secondarily
It wasnāt digging burrows but it was most certainly using them.
oh fair
What about you guys?
Either way being a burrower is not grounds for terrarium-hood on its own lmao especially not an animal over 6 feet long. Thescelosaurus and Leptoceratops would be burrowers and neither would make any sense in a terrarium
Can't have Megatherium or a Glyptodont either if burrowers have to be in terrariums
same with plenty of modern animals like warthogs or aardvarks
Megatherium, Macrauchenia, kentrosaurus Elasmosaurus, and some giant lemurs. Can't wait to see u18 animals though
yes
Which Bird for Prehistoric Kingdom
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Kelenken/Phorusrhacos/Titanis
What should have terrarium priority?
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Diictodon
That is quite an impressive result
Megatherium wasnāt a burrower..
Which of the ground sloths was then?
Mylodontids were prolly more suited to digging
So generally these feeding close to the ground
Think about something like scelidotherium
Glossotherium.
What evidence suggests Leptoceratops was suited for digging?
It's found in burrow complexes, and has forelimbs adapted for digging
I see.
An underrated marsupial I would like to see is Palorchestes
Much like Macrauchenia it seems its more likely to not have a trunk but It still looks fairly unique
Which animal you take guys for Prehistoric Kingdom
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Bison Antiqqus/Latifrons/Priscus
Ya know, this would actually be a really great addition in an Australia Themed Pack.
Iād love titanoboa, but idk how they would handle that
Like would it be a regular animal, or would it be in a really huge terrarium?
Terrarium animal
Itās actually very well sized for the large terrarium
Snake enclosures should be about as long as the snake is and half as wide as the snake is long
The large terrarium is slightly shorter and slightly wider
Which reminds me, I forgot to put tetrapodophis on my terrarium wishlist
how large is the large terrarium?
8x12 meters
Tbf I feel like Titanoboa should still get a larger terrarium
Just for more opportunities to maybe blend it into an actual exhibit
While Titanoboa may be hell to rig, I feel like it should be a habitat animal
Seeing as devs donāt seem to be increasing the terrarium sizes anytime soon
The only way I can picture that happening is by building an exhibit and putting a bunch of null terrariums in it
It will not be a habitat animal, period
I was gonna say no dinosaur game has made a working snake playable/animal
But I think beasts of bermuda has one
Idk why, but it feels a little weird that we got deinocheirus before therizinosaurus
And we donāt even have theri
Deinocherius can use the large theropod rig, theri would need its own rig most likely
Fair
Btw would theri do a sitting animation when eating?
Or has that myth been busted
am i the only one that thinks the way they showcased terrariums is weird?
like do we really need them to be that big?
Itās probably the only way certain animals can be placed in them
yeah but the terrariums are way too big imo
and some of the animals don't really fit in them
or wouldn't
Terrariums are pretty much right size for animals these are supposed to include
Your the only one
You guys reckon the May dev blog shows that new terrarium creature?
Doubt it
Even smaller terrarium size could benefit something like beelzebufo, sharovipteryx and longiqsuama
But we aint getting these for a while
At best, May devlog will show paleobotany, galli, and possibly some WIPs for enrichment
No terrarium showcases until at least after update 15
Damn
Half counts, but the Ark Survival Ascended Gigantophis mod works fantastically
a very good one at that
DLC idea: primates
Gigantopithecus, Dinopithecus, Darwinius, that giant lemur I donāt remember the name of, and idk what else
Palaeophis
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Peak movement tbh
It's not that they can't do It, It just isn't worth it
Spending 10 months making slither movement so you can use It in 5 snakes and arthropleura isn't really worth it
Terrestrial snakes sadly fall into the way to unique to truly represent them in-game tier
Why people insist so much on titanoboa having larger terrarium
Realistically this animal would lie in its puddle 20 hours per day
Just because 96m2 is small box
Realistically reptiles being regarded as lazy in terrariums are a result of poor husbandry and snakes actually can be quite inquisitive when given a habitat of proper proportions, they are just not given the chance
Titanoboa is such a vexing creature
Seeing as it is big enough for regular ontogeny
at the same time
hell to animate
agreed
As Droid as pointed out multiple times now, the large terrarium is well within AZA standards for a snake as large as titanoboa
Wow that actually looks really good
missed the lystro convo by a bit but heres how they scale
Lystro definitely deserves to be a regular exhibit animal I want a big herd of them following around Placerias/Lisowicia
Yes
Which is which?
top is Lystrosaurus maccaigi bottom left is Dicctodon and right is Lystrosaurus declivis
Have we ever had any genus that didnāt include itās type species?
You are really really grasping at every straw to justify Terrarium Lystro huh
It was a fair question.
And the answer is yes, Ursus and Panthera, and Psittacosaurus originally but it was changed before release to include the type species as well as P. sibiricus
The obvious reason being that most Dinosaurs rarely have more than one species assigned to them whereas it's very common in almost every other section of Paleontology and the vast majority of the roster right now is Dinosaurs.
I see.
Although I wouldnāt say Ursus and Panthera count on account of their type still being extant.
yes
Microraptorās type species is M. zhaoianus but the game exclusively uses M. gui
But thatās it
I do remember that the old list had Edmontonia as E. rugosidens while the type species is E. longiceps
Ursus and Panthera would like a word with you
extinct genera
Extinct species, the genera are still around
No problem buddy. It is interesting to know that there are prehistoric animals so closely related to modern species
Soon
Alright, fair enough.
Honestly if thatās the case then I guess I wouldnāt mind L. maccaigi
Remind me is it a Permian or Triassic species?
Permian
What are the reproductive habitats of Dicynodonts anyway?
We really don't know because there is no fossilized eggs of any Non-Mammalian Synapsids but a large majority of Lystrosaurus fossils are of juveniles so they likely did not take very good care of their young.
I mean their eggs would also be soft shelled if they did have them which would make preservation less likely
Are pelvic bones any indication of live birth?
not really, since early synapsids would have had tiny babies I think
like that fossil of an early mammaliaforme (I think?) with a ton of babies that all looked like mini adults
oh it was Kayentatherium
Here we present what is, to our knowledge, the first fossil record of pre- or near-hatching young of any non-mammalian synapsid. A large clutch of well-preserved perinates of the tritylodontid Kayentatherium wellesi (Cynodontia, Mammaliamorpha) was found with a presumed maternal skeleton in Early Jurassic sediments of the Kayenta Formation. The single clutch comprises at least 38 individuals, well outside the range of litter sizes documented in extant mammals.
yeah this is why just didn't explain it
Enantiophoenix electrophyla for terrariums (trust it might have eaten sap)
we don't even have its skull though
Soft shelled eggs are probably a safe bet for dicynodont nests.
For Lystro and Placerias.
Would Henodus make a nice Amphibious Terrarium animal?
I want Diplocaulus
Why?
it's an iconic Permian species and would be perfect as a terrarium animal
Because itās cool
I mean what would a valid reason for it be.
āBecause itās coolā is not a valid reason.
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It's a very popular and well known animal, with a very distinctive appearance, in what will be a very popular Paleozoic formation, that fits perfectly as the semi aquatic terrarium
To be honest, I would love for it to be added in too. Iāve just seen it pop up a lot in other suggestions.
I will be honest
Diplocaulus is such an iconic animal it feels more like an eventuality than a possibility
I can wholly agree with that. Thatās why I didnāt suggest it myself because it already feels really likely to make it in.
It is tho?
Itās vague, it could be used for literally anything, and itās been done to death as a reason/an excuse.
Diplocaulus is one of my personal favorites as well along with Beelzebufo for its not even a question that they need to be in the game
Beelzebufo honestly would need extra smaller terrarium size for stuff like it and other tiny animals like longisquama
Simple
Just put like 20 of them in there
I do think it would be nice if there was a smaller terrarium size though
5 Beelzebufo assemble together into a megaBeelz by grabbing onto the arms and legs
Beelzebufo terrarium be like
It then proceeds to sit in one moist corner for the rest of it's life
As God intended
if only the giant eocene frog had a name
not a lot of material
Not every specimen needs a name
this is all it got
on the topic of unnamed stuff, I really really hope they either name the St Bathans Mammal or find more material then name it
not a good addition for PK though IMO
just in general
Gigantofrogus maximal
Probably better for when they add an aquatic selection for terrariums.
Like fully aqautic.
Gigantobufo
Yeah nevermind with bufo
Like Terrestrial, aviary, amphibious and aquatic.
hear me out
Maxi mum
theres already a frog genus named Mini with 3 species
Mini mum
Mini scule
Mini ature
I mean if drinker exists i don't see why Maxi can't
Tbh i would be funny if they added It as a generic giant frog and just named It giant eocene calyptocephalella
Also It has a surprisingly high ammount of paleoart for such a "Gluppshito"
It is really big frog tho
Oh yeah not trying to say otherwise, but it's on a similar note to like Oxalaia of "It probably was a cool animal, but essentially non-existant"
Well it's a bit better, since the fossils is still there
But you get it
Plenty popular species like this
Besides the T-word not that much
Almost all popular fragmentary dinos are atleast like 12% found
GEC is literally a single bone
This hatzegopteryx reconstructions always brings me joy
Way more than GEC still
Also with Hatz we have close relatives
Which i don't think is true for GEC
A lot of that isn't even Hateg too, just referred
Hateg proper is 2 bones
Indeed a frog
Eh i mean is something for head shape
Which is like the one thing that actually changes a bit on Big frogs
what is GEC?
What a delectable cut of meat
They can add as many frogs as they want, just as long as they add beelzebufo
Thatās the only frog we actually need
I know that sized is based of the type of Beelzebufo but how big could they have gotten maximum?
6
Pardon?
6
They should add some of the more iconic species from Jurassic park, I'd be so cool to see them Paleo accurate
Like?
the Segisaurus
Wish list.
Gigant
Gigantoraptor
Utahraptor
Dimtrodon
Therizinosaurus
Baryonx
carno
Ceratasuarus
Stego
Oviraptor
Lysrro
Allo
Mosa
Nothosuar
Quetzal
Pteradon
Also uhhh, Allosaurus and Stegosaurus are coming in a later test build
Like, the entirety of Allosaurus, the entire genus
I usually dont remember, though some others do
Trello
Or confirmations from devs
giga doesn't shortern to gigant, it's giga-noto-saurus, big southern lizard, not gigantosaurus
those people say it wrong
Cool š
It's a different name when you say it otherwise
ye it's not spelled gigant
Bary is probably coming in update 18
Utah, Carno, Stego, Allo, Bary, and Ovi may all be coming in later updates
Allo n Stego straight up have concept art of each other
Probably not by much. Beelzebufo name generate more hype than animal itself
Care to explain the meme?
It's called saying a random number that is not correct
With no units of measure
No real reason but I just like Ypupiara yaknowā
Top 3 favorite dinosaurs⦠Leaellynasaura and Psittacosaurus are my top 2
And I mean if I have my top two might as well have my thirdā
waiter, waiter!
more random glupshitto maniraptorans known from 3 bones please
/j
he looks funky though
kinda real though
Fun fact
Ypupiaraās bones donāt exist anymore
A right maxilla and a dentary. The basis for this dinosaur, destroyed in a fire in 2018
wait, was that the brazilian museum fire? :(
Isnt that the same thing that happened to Oxalaia? I don't remember
Guh
I solely base my decisions on what I want to add based on what dinosaurs I like⦠and dinosaurs I like sadly donāt have many bonesā
I mean really we don't have any non-avian dinosaur bones
rugops
This chat has been quieter than usual lately since ez left 
I could fill in but I'm not one who tends to make massive wishlists
In my opinion, I'd just like some more terrariums n filler small species such as Deinon, Sauropelta, Tenonto, Kulindadromaeus and the like
Just to balance out the sheer amount of large heavy-hitting species
Thesc, Troodon, Citipati, Anzu, Austrolovenator, you get the drift
I'm all for giant species like Sauroposeidon, Shantungasaurus, Giganotosaurus, and the like, but those really only sell DLC by name alone
(You can tell I'm a bit of a Mesozoic nut)
I'm not that big on Cenozoics, however, I feel like the Paleogene-Neogene era needs representation since at the moment, it's one of the least speciose eras in the game (Alongside the Triassic, Permian, and the rest of the Paleozoic)
Paleogene/Neogene currently only has roughly 3 genera in game, two of which are alts of existing genera
If any predictions are correct, that number is due to change to at least 4 genera by release
Which, isn't exactly a big change
But let's be honest, the Paleozoic boutta have less, since by the end of EA, it'll total to around 2 measly species, both of which will be terrariums
(That being the Mystery Permian animal and Tiktaalik)
the cenozoic is lacking in most eras imo
Dinosaurs and Mesozoic creatures will always have more rep in pk
(and mesozoic creatures?)
As in Triassic animals, big crocs, pterosaurs, marine reptiles etc
like 95 of the mesozoic creatures we get will be dinosaurs so I don't think the distinction's really accurate
maybe 80% if we're counting the aquatics and fliers we might get as content down the line
Was referring more so to aquatic and flying species as well
I don't mind dinosaurs getting the most attention but the mammals are mainly just a cooler variant of living animal
The game could do with some funky fellers
I do prefer mammals
I adore mammals and palaeozoic creatures are cool, I just think people should have more realistic expectations for what the finished roster of the game is gonna look like
Devs have always planned a mammal minority since the beginning
Which is partially sad because the Pleistocene is my fav time period but dinosaurs are obviously very charismatic and a big draw for a lot of people
So it does make sense
Fair
But one of the big selling points of this game is the inclusion of mammals compared to most other
what would you call it
dinosaur genre? seems a little broad
I agree there as well
Either way I dont know too many other games that include mammals or non mesozoics
Question for everyone on this thread: what are your guesses for the 5 unknown terrarium animals? The āarboreal lizardā āfuzzy Triassicā āsemi-aquatic mammalā and the two āfunky dinosaursā
My guesses are coelurasauravus, thrinaxodon, didelphodon, heterodontosaurus, and shuvuuia
Drepenosaurus, Thrinaxodon, Didelphodon, Heterodontosaurus, Halsakaraptor
Halszkaraptor, anchiornis, interatherium, drepano, thrinaxodon
Is thrinaxodon your Permian animal then? As well as a āfuzzy Triassicā
Iām somewhat thinking that that may not be binding, but essentially
Whatās interatherium?
Otter-like notoungulate
Which pick is the Permian then?
Thrinaxodon
Hmm trug
I personally believe permian animal died with diictodon
I think the Permian and fuzzy Triassic will be different
Could be
If im understanding this correctly "Adversaries" means enemies, Tools means something along the lines of ark and collectables is something like pokemon?
Yes
Il make this in a format of which I want VS which is more likely
My main grip with didelphodon is it sharing diet with halszka
Yeahhh thatās why I didnāt pick halza even tho it would be an awesome pick
Sharovipteryx/Coelurusauravus, Thrinaxodon, Castorocauda/Didelphodon, Shuuvuia, Daemonosaurus
The semi aquatic mammal eating fish just seems the most likely to me
For the dinosaurs it is near impossible to pick something that is more likely due to their abundance
I wouldn't be surprised, if mammal was herbivore. After all it is supposed to be obscure
Therefore I went with only things id like to see
Sharovipteryx as the ālizardā is a bit of a stretch imo but maybe
I also think there are 3 species per terrarium type lol
Also @hollow furnace is bos officially confirmed for post ea like dimetrodon?
Or have the devs just said they theyād ālike to do itā or something
I canāt find the original message
It was revealed as part of the post EA ideas list
As in it was unblurred, unlike the others
got it
I cant find the message either but iirc it was either Ida or Mau that said horses and Bison would be comming to the game in the same sentence lol
That was different, that was horses and quagga for recently extinct dlc
Yes, I think they meant the Equus and bison species of La Brea
They did not
Latifrons, one of the bison species, is from la brea, but nothing has ever been said with regards to getting specifically la brea horses
My god i just checked and they actually did
When how and why It happened?
Samotherium more mammals
Happened a few days ago. People told him he was annoying and then he kept spamming that they should just kick him in pk discussion to which people got fed up and told him that if he wanted to so bad he could just leave so he did
far to many creatures i love to see in pk
True
from the smallest insects to that massive albatross looking bird
wich the name escape me at the moment
Pelagornis?
think so
Definitely a great pic, tho we will have to wait a while before it comes to the game
Same with other big flying and aquatic animals
Bird picks big enough for larger aviaries are kinda just relegated to Argentavis, pelagornis, and haasts Eagle tbh
dimetrodon would be cool as well
Dimetrodon is confirmed to be coming sometime after early access ends
guys how would we like a "previously dubious genera" dlc (assuming they would actually turn out as valid)
nanotyrannus, troodon, dracorex, and sigilmassasaurus
cool
Goofy premise ngl
I was half joking yes
Imaging a casual gamer looking at the dlc list gazing upon the dubious species dlc
Truly a sight to behold
but like if these genera are real, they're pretty cool
Eh
as much as i dont like them irl i would not mind to see the massive prehistoric snake in the game
idk name it like "resurrected pack"
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So many other dlc premises I would prefer
oh yeah def, I meant it as something of a C list pack lol
Troodon would be hella generic, dracorex would look like jr pachy/stygi, we don't have a clue what Sigil looks like beyond being a spinosaurine (which would be the same as the Spino we already have in game basically)
Nano would still look fairly similar to teen rex
Iād want a troodontid in base game anyways
So if you want a pack of clone nobodies sure I guess
