Community Species Suggestions

[low bridge]

That would be Great

[plucky mantle]

If you're referring to Colossal's 'dire wolf' it would have looked quite different from that, long story short Colossal just genetically modified some grey wolves, said 'yeah this is what Dire wolves looked like' and then wrote an accompanying paper that refutes their own statements so dire wolves would have likely looked more akin to stem wolf-like canids or perhaps more distinct than that

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Homotherium deserves it's place in Prehistoric Kingdom bc he is neat

[plucky mantle]

Hell, African wild dogs and dholes are Canina and they look nothing like a wolf (and dholes have similar habitat ranges as well)

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• we have it's permafrosted cub

[hollow valve]

Yeah I get that. I’m mostly referring to how I was told about how I (probably falsely) recall being told before how Aenocyon wouldn’t be that different from other canines and wouldn’t be as unique as something like Hyaenodon or some other similarly built mammalian predator.

[plucky mantle]

That's true I suppose

But it's def basal enough you can get crazy with the designs

[low bridge]

Gigachad when?

[hollow valve]

I guess we’d just have to wait and see on all that.

[low bridge]

I mean Giganotosaurus aka Giant Southern Lizard

[sharp dock]

counterpoint:

[hollow furnace]

also had a massive range which could give you a lot of freedom with skins

[sharp dock]

additional counterpoint

[hollow furnace]

could have a pale skin for the northern population Colossal sequenced, a more wolfish/typical canid skin for the La Brea population, and a red dhole skin for the tropical South American population

[plucky mantle]

The mammal roster rn is def heavy on the 'this is just a modern animal but slightly different' shtick to a fault but I think Dire wolves are distant enough from modern wolves to the point you can make them look actually distinct and not a clone unlike some other animals in the game

[sharp dock]

wtf no its not

unless u think a wooly rhino is just a rhino with hair
and a wooly mammoth an elephant with hair
and the steppe lion just a lion but cold and... well I will stop now

[plucky mantle]

yes that is literally just a modern animal but slightly different

that is what I just said

[sharp dock]

smilodon is just a tiger with big teeth 🗿

[plucky mantle]

Smilodon, Paracer, and Juxia are really the only unique mammals in the game rn every other animal is either some variant of modern mammalian fauna or rhino-adjacent

I don't have anything against those kinds of animals, I think they're important for the record

but it was definitely an odd choice on dev's part to make 95% of the mammal roster in EA be 'yeah so if you want to make a modern animal exhibit use these'

[hollow valve]

This sort of logic is also why I’m not placing high bets on Chapalmalania making it in even though I would like for it to. It’s more or less just a bigger raccoon.

[open heron]

NGL I think it makes sense.

Most of the most well known cenozoic fauna are exactly that

[hollow furnace]

Elasmotherium is as unique as Smilodon is

[plucky mantle]

Elasmo in a vacuum is sure but half the mammal roster is rhinos

[open heron]

Not to mention 'normal kingdom' is a legitimate niche, people are interested in seeing these animals anyways.

[plucky mantle]

Ehh I guess Coelodonta and Mammuthus are, but I'd def argue they skipped over way better known, or at least similarly known but more interesting, Cenozoic fauna to give us Ursus, the Panthera species, and Megaloceros. No ground sloth, no glyptodont, no Entelodont, but yeah let's cut Hyaenodon and Daeodon so we can give you two lions and an additional two rhino species on top of the four already in the game at the time

[open heron]

I defo think more people recognise the idea of cave bears than glyptodonts

they aren't going to be aware of the binomial name but the idea of cavemen competing with bears for caves is a decently common thing in media.

with the panthera there's also the argument of rig/animation reusage

[plucky mantle]

The idea, sure, but the average person is far more likely to say 'oh yeah I've seen that in ice age art' to a Glyptodon than a cave bear

[open heron]

it's much easier and cheaper to make a new animal using a rig/animation set that already exists

[plucky mantle]

Yeah I get why they did it and I don't disagree with these animals being added, just think it was a bad time to add them

[hollow valve]

IIRC, they had sounds, animations, and everything ready for Hyaenodon way back when that they could use and/or edit, so I think it has a chance of being added in fairly soon at most Post-EA.

[hollow furnace]

There are more cats than things people would actually recognize as a rhino (calling the paraceratheres “rhinos” in the context of roster diversity is silly)

[outer moth]

Mammals are mammals, and of course, they're gonna be pretty similar to what we have today
Imagine if that arguement was applied to paleobotany
"This ginkgo looks too much like a modern one so we shouldn't add it"

You see how unwise that sounds?

Something will always look like something

[plucky mantle]

No because we should have had a modern ginkgo lmao

I'm hyped for paleobotany but I'd also like to be able to use modern plants that are common in landscaping that aren't being included because they have an extinct relative like Ginkgo and cycads

[outer moth]

In my opinion, the too many rhinos arguement sounds like an "Oh no! My steak is too buttery and my wine is too exquisite" situation

[plucky mantle]

No it's like getting a four course meal and they give you a bunch of candy in the appetizer. It's like great I like candy but this is not the time to be giving me candy when I haven't gotten my meal yet let alone dessert

[open heron]

The too many rhinos argument is technically valid but honestly Paraceratherium as the one with a different rig is likely the only one that could've been swapped for anything unique and I think most people would rather it be there than not.

[plucky mantle]

Elasmotherium could 100% have waited tbh, besides alt genera it's the most obscure mammal in the game right now and we already had a woolly rhino from its environment. It's cool and unique and I really like Elasmotherium as an animal but there are so many animals I would have wanted before it even on the rhino rig

[open heron]

Half the rhinos that exist in the game are alt genera anyways so they have zero impact on roster priority and are solely extra meat on the bones.

Elasmotherium is still more famous than Megacerops or Arsinotherium so that's likely why it had priority, alongside the fact the devs could play around with horn length a lot more.

[outer moth]

I'm happy with the rhino roster at the moment, and I think I can wait before we get more, seeing as their diversity was still pretty good back in the day

Wasn't Arsino not a true rhino?

[open heron]

Closer to elephants

(Megacerops also wasn't a rhino either for the record)

[hollow furnace]

It wasn’t a rhino at all, afrothere

[outer moth]

So Afrothere?
Sounds about right

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Moeritherium is also Elephant

[outer moth]

If we get another rhino-adjacent (in appearance) mammal, I feel like I'd be happy with Uintatherium anceps
Looks rhino-ey despite not being related to any rhinos

[plucky mantle]

I think picking by fame alone is not a great idea, and the devs didn't for dinos. Like we would not have gotten Scelido or Nasuto if that was the case. But adding something else on the rhino rig like Toxodon, Megacerops, Arsinoitherium, Uintatherium, etc. etc. would have added far more to the game in the long-run than adding Elasmo right out the gate

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Menoceras two horned very social rhino from Agate Springs

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Embolotherium, Mixotoxodon, Menoceras

Eobasileus

[plucky mantle]

There's a lot you can add that aren't literal rhinos yeah

[low bridge]

Iranotherium, Paraelasmotherium

More liushu formation mammals

Tsaidamotherium, Dinocrocuta

[outer moth]

I've been thinking of Siivatherium or Discokeryx

Giraffes were weird

[hollow flower]

Yeah elasmo probably shouldnt have come so early

But its already in the game so

[plucky mantle]

Yeah

[hollow flower]

I do quite like it though

[plucky mantle]

Agreed

[hollow flower]

Very neat especially with the Sinotherium alt

[plucky mantle]

I think it's probably one of the best looking mammals rn

[open heron]

Nasuto absolutely does align with a fame focused roster, JP media pushed that thing like crazy for a while (certainly would say it's more well known than Torvo or Mutta in any case). But that's besides the point.
Popular animals attract more buzz and when you're early in a game's dev cycle that's what you need. Most of those animals, being more different, would in turn also be more difficult to include.
Don't get me wrong though I do get it, would absolutely have picked Arsino over Elasmoth myself but I definitely both understand and to an extent agree with Elasmotherium going first.
There's also the point that Elasmotherium meshes better with what's already in the game, animals that don't have much they mesh well with are going to be used less. It can be argued as a hole that's been dug sure, but the point still stands that Palaeogene/Neogene animals, while they are more unique, just have less usability in a roster that mostly promotes Quaternary/Ice Age zoos.

That being said if it was up to me Coelodonta would not have been one of the three initial mammals at launch anyways, the ideal ice age trifecta will always be Mammuthus, Smilodon, and Megatherium and nothing will change that.

[hollow flower]

Yeah Nasuto definetly is in the higher echelon of popularity compared to Torvo

Kind of crazy but thats sort of how it is

[plucky mantle]

Torvo is definitely less known yeah

[hollow flower]

I think not only did it get a bunch of JP recognition it also got alot back when it was described

Especially when the news out here covered it which doesnt happen all too often

[lean hound]

I'll be very dissapointed if none of these come out after the game is fully finished

[hollow flower]

In terms of mammal additions I feel currently we only need like

Megatherium and Aenocyon for pleistocene

Most of it should be either Paleogene or Neogene for the rest of early access

[open heron]

I couldn't care less about Aenocyon as far as the current roster goes icl

[hollow flower]

Im gonna be honest I completely agree

I have no strong feelings on it

But a canid is needed and its the most popular choice

[open heron]

A canid will be needed a long way down the road, as it stands normal kingdom has decent carnivora options already.

as far as not normal kingdom stuff (mammals that do not look like living genera/families) though I could definitely see something funkier being appreciated

[left spear]

Cassigyrinus

Could be a fun mini

[hollow flower]

Oh absolutely

Im all for Paleozoic minis

[left spear]

Ah

Mammals

Uhh

[plucky mantle]

Devs should really go all out on paleozoic minis tbh because so many of the most popular Paleozoics are not big

[left spear]

Smolophant

And Megaphant for that matter

[hollow flower]

Right now my favourite of the new minis we know of is easily Tiktaalik

[plucky mantle]

yeah

[left spear]

Most unique one

[plucky mantle]

ngl I am glad to get Compy and Yi but the game already has so many dinosaurs having anything that isn't a dinosaur is 10x more exciting

[open heron]

If you ask me the top priorities for further Quaternary mammals should be Megatherium, Sivatherium, and the Thylacine (which would probably be added in a recently extinct dlc but honestly IMO has equal worth being added beforehand due to the existence of various prehistoric thylacine types which would make for nice alt species.).

[left spear]

I was super excited for Yi but tbh i don't like this desing that much tbh, feels too Slim atleast to me

[hollow flower]

Megatherium and Sivatherium are most certainly the current best ones to add

Thylacine has too much value in the recent extinction pack to be added

[left spear]

Keep Thylacine is RE and add Thylacoleo instead

[hollow flower]

The australian pleistocene fauna is also worthy of their own pack

[left spear]

Frees Up a spot in the Cenozoic Australia dlc

[lean hound]

It's only a concept, hopefully they make it fluffier or just a bit fatter

[left spear]

Hopefully

[open heron]

Megatherium is up there with Stegosaurus as the single most iconic land animal left out of the game.
Sivatherium could work off the same rig as Paraceratherium and would add to two crucially underutilised regions of the game (India and Sub-Saharan Africa).
Prehistoric Thylacinids are criminally underused, and might not see the light of day if the animal's added in a recent pack.

[lean hound]

Didn't notice at first but it definitely feels skinny

needs some floof

[plucky mantle]

I'd like to see Meiolania get in with a Niolamia alt because Niolamia is cool and you can't have too many tortoises.

Game needs more animals where you can just toss em in a pit and call it a day.

[hollow flower]

A mekosuchus mini would be intruiging

[left spear]

Imo meko could be either a Mini and a full species

[feral cedar]

Historic Kingdom

[hollow valve]

Even better: Pre Kingdom.

[autumn plover]

I feel like theres nothing to complain about when it comes to EA animal additions

we have like two thyreophorans and tonnes of ornithopods and ceratopsians

its probably easier to add lots of similar species quickly

which is good for expanding the ea roster

[feral cedar]

But it’s always nice to have some variety

[autumn plover]

hence why we have a lot of similar forms and some forms currently missing

[autumn plover]

Yes, but i've just explained why I think theres not much

[feral cedar]

The only real “complaint” I have is the devs nuking Cloverly’s presence in the roster

[autumn plover]

That was annoying yeah

it's a shame about Teno

Sauro im less bothered about

[feral cedar]

Deinonychus my beloved

[autumn plover]

Hot take: i dont really care for deinonychus in-game. it's extremely important in real life, but in-game it's lower than Utah and Austro in priority.

if we get a 4th sickle clawed animal i'd rather get a troodont than a 4th dromeosaur as well

Cool animal, but not needed

[feral cedar]

smh

Deinonychus being so important is one of the reasons why I want it in PK

I’m on my phone rn but if I had a keyboard I’d viciously type out many more reasons in favor of my boy

[autumn plover]

I mean if you want to debate it idm waiting

But if we want a “large” dromeosaur: Utah

If we want a dromeosaur from early Cretaceous North America: Utah

We already have Velo which is very famous

Austro would be more unique as a third choice due to it’s lifestyle

Deinonychus in real life is extremely important, it kickstarted the dinosaur renaissance, but that doesn’t actually translate to any notable gameplay differences from the previous 3 raptors in-game

We’re missing a troodont, and I’d rather get one of them than a 4th dromeosaur

It sucks that they gutted the cloverly, but it does mean that there’s now even less reason to add Deinonychus

It was the basis for the JP raptor, but that’s known by the more famous name Velociraptor, which is already in-game

And again, we already have Utah as the large terrestrial hunting raptor

[outer moth]

Deinon is kinda medium between Velo and Utah

[autumn plover]

not really much of a gameplay difference really, not compared to potential omnivory, different group of animals for troodonts

or coming from south america

specialising in fish

being an unenlagine

for Austro

depending on which troodont we got that would also be a medium between velo and utah sizewise

[outer moth]

Deinon kinda seems like it could make a return in a DLC

One that could potentially rebirth Cloverly

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Samotherium, Discokeryx, Prolibytherium, Giraffokeryx, Bramatherium, Sivatherium would Fit in Prehistoric Kingdom

Giraffe Kingdom

Lol

After Elephant Kingdom

And Ground Sloth Kingdom

[hollow valve]

What about Sabertooth Kingdom?

[low bridge]

With Megantereon, Smilodon Gracilis?

🤔🤔

[hollow valve]

https://tenor.com/view/knuckles-i-dont-know-gif-1171059229216507234

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Xenosmilus

[hollow valve]

I’ll do you one better. Hoplophoneus.

[steep crane]

How much you wanna bet that if Aenocyon gets added to the game, Nigel will make a jab at colossal?

[hollow valve]

I’d say about a hundred bucks.

[left spear]

1 tennis ball

[low bridge]

Xenokeryx is neat pick?

Worship Stupendemys

[outer crater]

Thylacosmilus

[plucky mantle]

ngl I think the only justification for Deinonychus rn is that we don't really have any tropical or wetlands small carnivores, which it could def go into both. However I think the size difference between it and Velociraptor is too small to actually matter in PK because of the scale of the game itself and there are other, more unique small carnivores I'd rather see first to fill a tropical/wetlands niche like Guanlong

[autumn plover]

^also size variation

The biggest Velos will probably be close to the smallest Deinons

And we can use other small carnivores for the wetlands/tropical

[heavy scarab]

Cloverly Formation Pack - Deinonychus, Sauropelta, Tenontosaurus and Aquilops as terrestrial terrarium animals.

[outer moth]

Doubt that

I’d like to think of Cloverly as being a part of a Cretaceous NA pack

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Cloverfield Monster is needed

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Pelorovis, Syncerus Antiqqus are needed

[median relic]

honestly?

include deinonychus in an "influential to paleontology" dlc

what else would be it in though

maybe pakicetus

• dinosaur renaissance bringer
• whale evolution puzzle piece

maybe yutyrannus?

and maiasaura

and saltasaurus

[runic tiger]

Hows saltasaurus significant again? Something with eggs/nesting right?

[kind oriole]

Saltasaurus is rather small for a sauropod, that expands the roster. Also, it's quite rotund

[median relic]

yes

that nesting site

similar reasoning to maia but still I think saltasaurus is neat

[runic tiger]

I think it's roundness is often overstated

More modern interpretations aren't nearly as rotund

[median relic]

what are some other paleontologically influential animals

no australopithecus really hurts this pack idea as a whole I think lol

[hollow flower]

Borealopelta

But its a little similar to Edmontonia

[median relic]

🤦‍♂️ I'm a fool

[plush nacelle]

Palaeotherium

Mammut

Sinosauropteryx

[median relic]

no mammut can be basegame

sino is riffing on compy but ok

[hollow furnace]

I wouldn't really consider Yutyrannus and Saltasaurus that influential on paleontology, at least not anywhere near the level of Maiasaura and Deinonychus.

Sinosauropteryx is absolutely in the same level of influence though

[median relic]

I know but I'm trying to pad it out lol

[hollow furnace]

First definitive evidence of feathers in non-avian dinosaurs

[median relic]

what was the first protowhale again that wasn't basilosaurid? ambulocetus?

[hollow furnace]

First known was Pakicetus

[median relic]

ahh

y'know what

[hollow furnace]

Ambulocetus was the bridge between pakicetus and fully aquatic cetaceans

[median relic]

3 separate packs:
early discoveries: some of the first dinosaurs/extinct animals named, megalosaurus, hylaeosaurus, ichthyosaurus, plesiosaurus, pterodactylus, megalonyx
influential discoveries: influential to paleontology, deinonychus, maiasaura, sinosauropteryx, yutyrannus, pakicetus ??
modern ancestors: ancestors of modern day groups, eohippus, ambulocetus, moeritherium, hesperocyon, pezosiren, discokeryx, ??

not sure about this

[lean hound]

Megalosaurus?

[lean hound]

Didn’t see this my bad

[slim flare]

And behavior

[lost saffron]

Adasaurus would be a bit of an awkward addition but i think it would be cool nonetheless

Also to help complete the Nemegt

[hollow valve]

Ya know, I think this would be a really cool Dromeosaur addition. Although what else would make it unique so that it’s not a Velociraptor Clone?

[hollow furnace]

Nothing

It’s a slightly larger velociraptor

[hollow valve]

So it could be an alt for Velociraptor or would it just have a similar animation set?

[hollow furnace]

It could definitely be a velociraptor alt

[hollow valve]

You’ve got it. Either way, it would be a great addition.

[sharp dock]

thats quite literally just velociraptor

[left spear]

Today i dreamed that at the devlog It was revealed that u17 had 3 secret species, Yutyrannus, Bison and Edmontonia

I am now very depressed

Anyways would psilopterus be mini?

I think It could be full exhibit tbh

[hollow valve]

First I’d like to ask what Psilopterus is.

That and if it would be small enough to qualify as a mini-exhibit creature like this suggestion up here.

[silver steeple]

The last phorusrhacid

About the size of a Caracara/seriema iirc

[hollow valve]

Yeah. Considering how the terrarium animals are around Tiktaalik’s size at largest, I think it would be better for a Mini Exhibit Animal. Although I don’t think it’s a bad idea for a creature at all.

[sharp dock]

cept for edmontonia the other 2 spices are epic

like we cant deny yuty would look great in da game

[short rover]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-stare-serious-gif-15710427

[hollow valve]

Yeah no doubt about that. That’s part of why I think we can be glad that it’s at least listed as one of the potential Post-EA Animals.

[short rover]

I’d love yuty def up there in terms of my most wanted creatures

It’s a really neat size range and it being feathered will give it a regal vibe

[left spear]

Also one of the only dinos that would fit in a temperate to slightly boreal park

[lost saffron]

Nah but its like slightly bigger

[hollow flower]

If i wanted the equivalent of a slightly bigger Velociraptor I would pick Deinonychus

Of course they arent too similar but the value of Deinonychus is far higher than something like Adasaurus

[open heron]

I don't usually feel the need to ask what makes people want certain species but like... what's the appeal here with Adasaurus legitimately?
Personally feel like there are a lot more slightly bigger velo clones (deinonychus, stenonychosaurus, unenlagia, etc) that would add more to the game, but maybe there's something I'm missing here?

[cerulean hill]

has anyone said mononykus yet?

[lean hound]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-out-loud-laugh-ridiculous-hilarious-lolz-gif-17376550074772904877

yes

[sharp dock]

590 times

Barely

[low bridge]

Syncerus Antiqqus is neat

Perfect savanna animal

Prehistoric Kingdom guys Prehistoric

Giant African Buffalo

[sharp dock]

I think instead of saying "x is needed" every single time you could instead say "x would be cool"

[plush nacelle]

Im going to be honest, but post oligocene Africa is not really it

[sharp dock]

Because most of the times they are things nowhere close to being necessary

[outer moth]

But yeah, more cenozoics are kind of a must, but really, my personal fav would honestly go to Siiva
(Not to be too needy ofcs, just a simple like from me since it was one of my first ever animals in ZT2)

[low bridge]

Pliocene Pleistocene Africa was something else

[sharp dock]

Kelenken numbah one!!!!!!

[hollow flower]

One thing that intruiges me about Africa during like

the Neogene

Werent Hyaenodonts still the main predator there?

[plush nacelle]

Eocene is where cenozoic africa truly shines

[hollow flower]

Oh for sure

[sharp dock]

If there are 100 people against 1 kelenken and i am one of them then it is 99 people against 1 keleneken and 1 human

[low bridge]

Crocodylus Thorbjarnarsoni, Hippo Gorgops, Megantereon, Dinofelis, Ancylotherium, Sivatherium, Stegotetrabelodon, Deinotherium, Syncerus Antiqqus from Pliocene Pleistocene Africa

[short rover]

Was it tho?

[short rover]

Really hope it’s in update 20

[hollow flower]

But its miocene creatures are also pretty intruiging

[outer moth]

Not really, considering it's our ancestral ground

[short rover]

Deinotherium and Siva are the only ones I really care about in there

[outer moth]

👆

[sharp dock]

tf is an ancylotherium 😂😂 (dont answer, this is sarcasm)

[hollow flower]

Ay Stegotetrabelodons pretty cool no?

[short rover]

It’s neat I just don’t care about it personally too much

[sharp dock]

Beaked elephant

[hollow flower]

You remember the chalicothere from the 4th wwb episode

Its that

[short rover]

He literally said DONT ANSWER

[hollow flower]

ah

[short rover]

fucking hell

[sharp dock]

I totally expected him to answer lmfao

[hollow flower]

My eyes are a little questionable these days

[sharp dock]

What I wasnt expecting was two people answering lmaoooooooo

[outer moth]

I wonder how it could even eat tbh
I know they use their trunks but like, those jaws would still be pretty heavy to lift, no?

[sharp dock]

Well you see that trunk over there

[short rover]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-robert-downey-jr-shrug-the-rot-the-rot-consumes-gif-4934048971431677874

[sharp dock]

It prolly used that

[hollow flower]

I think its just me tending to ignore things put between ( )

[sharp dock]

Altho the idea of it pecking around with the tusks would be incredibly funny

[short rover]

Lmao

[low bridge]

Fck fck fck

[sharp dock]

All tomorrows aaaaa elephant

THE ELEPHANT BIRD

[short rover]

The future is…wild?

[sharp dock]

ITS VORPAL ENEMY, THE BIRD ELEPHANT

[hollow flower]

Stegotetra is pretty neat in terms of elephants but it probably should be a dlc all things considered

[low bridge]

Elephant Feet from Chernobyle

[hollow flower]

Besides the four tusks its kind of normal looking

[low bridge]

Platybelodon

Is the weirdest Elephant

[short rover]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-breakdown-one-piece-luffy-crying-monkey-d-luffy-anime-gif-9399531241085076446

Me if Crocodylus thorbjarnasoni doesn’t come to the game (it’s over)

[sharp dock]

I also knew you would delete the post so I took the liberty of screenshotin it for the end of times

[outer moth]

If only it was as chill and as uniform as the plant spec chat

[hollow flower]

Indeed

[low bridge]

Nice nice but IDC that's all

[sharp dock]

Theres a plamt spec chat

[hollow flower]

I wonder how often they suggest prototaxites there

[outer moth]

I'm a simple man who covers up his shitty building skills with gardens

[short rover]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-gif-15449497793648793961

[sharp dock]

Thats p epic

The garden i mean

[outer moth]

Yes, but I was wondering if animal spec will ever be as chill as plant spec

[sharp dock]

Meanwhile im like timmys mom

everything i touch dies

Except well a ciclamen i bought, surprisingly still alive

[short rover]

Just wait until EZ finds out about all the extinct plant genera…

[low bridge]

My Spino died before death was added to game

[sharp dock]

Lol

[outer moth]

I mean it's prominent with my Museum, Entrance, and small plaza builds in PK
(Specifically for my May River park, the hiatus is reallll)
If you want to take a gander, I can send the link

[sharp dock]

good one

[outer moth]

That and I also have an irl garden too

ofcs

[low bridge]

Very funny very funny

[sharp dock]

Oh u mean a garden ingame

[outer moth]

Yea

[sharp dock]

Ah ok u still got one irl

[outer moth]

So you're not wrong however you spin it

[sharp dock]

i am replying with delay

yaaay

[low bridge]

IDC

[sharp dock]

u dont care about cooksonia?

Get him

https://tenor.com/view/viva-pinata-fergy-fudgehog-get-him-after-him-stop-him-gif-25582651

[outer moth]

My museum build sure needs more stuff tho so once we get more skeletons I'll prolly add them in there

And I did build a nice lil era size chart showcasing some of the animals

[low bridge]

Aliens when in game?

[outer moth]

Neogene, Paleogene, and most of the Paleozoic are missing some animals so I'll add those when the time comes

I can take a screenshot if yall want ofcs

[low bridge]

We need Air in game

[sharp dock]

Yeah I dont think the game rn is prioritizing on representing every single era

Or period or whatever

[outer moth]

Not right now, but when the day comes

I honestly need more educational decals rn

[low bridge]

Samurais in Prehistoric Kingdom?

[open heron]

Sivatherium is lowkey goated

could probably reuse the rig from Paracer too?

[outer moth]

Closer to Megaloceros in rig I suppose

It's not that heavy built

In fact

I feel like the Paracer rig is too much of it's own thing

[lean hound]

I was actually thinking of people using a resized young megaloceros as a siva earlier today

[outer moth]

Bit big for that, so I don't use that method

But giganteum/maurisium seem to be the best candidates if Siva makes it in someday

Would be pretty cool to see

[lean hound]

I might be imagining the wrong animal, I don't remember it's neck being so short

[quick ore]

Going to suggest some underrated Cenozoic mammals that I think would make for cool additions

Homalodotherium (chalicothere-like Notoungulate), Granastrapotherium (giant trunked and tusked Astrapothere that was basically the SANU knockoff version of a proboscidean), Mesoreodon (Oreodont species with ossified vocal cords, could make for an endearing smaller mammal to populate exhibits with loud vocalizations), Proborhyaena (largest sparassodont known and possibly largest carnivorous metatherian ever)

[open heron]

Granastrapotherium is peak tbh.

I can't speak for the others but I can definitely vouch for that one

[limber nexus]

What even is that?

Like guys, Pk shouldn’t be adding every obscure creature

[lean hound]

tbh it is quite cool

[limber nexus]

It’s cool, but there are better bovines to add

[short rover]

honestly one of the better pick EZ has insisted on

i dont think its necessary considering were getting Bos but it would be kinda cool

[limber nexus]

I looked it up, it’s really cool, but there are other animals I would prefer

[short rover]

i agree

[steep carbon]

What did EZ suggest in the poll?

[limber nexus]

What did he not?

[short rover]

lmao

[steep carbon]

Did he send more than five 😭

[limber nexus]

Yeah, something I would like to do with the poll is to see what people really like, and also the script is going well

[short rover]

im gonna guess...a camel of some sort, either xenosmilus, dinofelis, or megantereon anddd an obscure elphant creature

[short rover]

hes sent like a billion

[limber nexus]

So many

[limber nexus]

Yeah, it’s been a lot

I will take back my title as the poll guy

[steep carbon]

No I don't mean in his polls I mean in your poll😭 silly

[limber nexus]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh
About a month ago I made a community poll where people voted on the most popular community suggestion. There were 200ish creatures on it

It’s closed now

I went through the data and have the results

And now I’m writing the video

[steep carbon]

Yes, I know all that

[limber nexus]

Then I’m confused by the question

[steep carbon]

Remember the phase where you had us suggest animals for the poll, five each?

I was asking if he sent in more than five

[limber nexus]

No, because it was only 1 response per person, and if someone sent more than 5 creatures, I just took the first 5

Idk if he responded though

[steep carbon]

I'm the one who suggested the tiny horses 🐎

[limber nexus]

Tiny horses?
Like the really old ones?

Like the ones from the Miocene?

[plush nacelle]

Hyracotherium was on the list

[steep carbon]

Hyracotherium yeah

[limber nexus]

I remember now

[plush nacelle]

Imo propalaeotherium/ eurohippus are the best ones to add still

[limber nexus]

Judging that it’s a small horse that no one knows, it did pretty well

[hollow valve]

I don’t disagree but:

What about something like Mesohippus?

[steep carbon]

I'm sure more than one person suggested him, their pretty iconic. One of the first 20 things you think of when you hear the word prehistoric.

[limber nexus]

Surprisingly no

[next saffron]

Any chances of getting pseudosuchians?

[limber nexus]

Maybe, but we got no information on if they are coming

[next saffron]

I wonder if they'll eventually add more skins to terrarium species

[low bridge]

Kaprosuchus is good or ehhhhh?

[plush nacelle]

Decent pick, but early rainforest one should have priority

[lean hound]

yeah

[low bridge]

Only Camel for game is Camel Spider

[limber nexus]

From my understanding, I don’t think they will get any

[next saffron]

A dang shame

[left spear]

Is there any interesting extinct Camel Spider? (Or something similar)

Gotta make something out of the spam

[next saffron]

I do wonder, would a hypothetical Arthropleura be a terrarium animal or free roaming habitat animal

They were big bois

[lean hound]

please don't remind me of that thing while I'm eating omg

[limber nexus]

Terrarium, but they have talked about the difficulties of adding it

[steep carbon]

Total cuties

[lean hound]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-nope-nopenopenope-outa-here-no-gif-18914586

no thanks

[lean hound]

Didin't rlly look at the gif

[steep carbon]

The four beaks are so cool, and their little eyes are so cute

[slim flare]

Cocaine

[plush nacelle]

Nah. Land arthorpods are generally not big enough for terrariums outside big bug 4

[quick ore]

I think Pezosiren, the land manatee from Eocene Jamaica, would be a fantastic inclusion to the game. Just imagine how cute the babies would be ❤️

[next saffron]

Big Bug 4?

[plush nacelle]

Arthropleura, pulmonoscorpius, mazothairos, meganeura/opsis

[median relic]

for sure, the question is which ones

[hollow flower]

On the topic of weird hippo beasts

Id love to see Jonkeria

[sharp dock]

chonkeria my beloved

[cerulean hill]

Jesus lol

[lost saffron]

Pretty much anything on this list because say it with me folks

We love the nemegt formation

Heavy on Therizinosaurus, Mononykus, Barsboldia & Alioramus tho

[hollow furnace]

Saurolophus is far superior to Badsboldia

(Especially considering they may be one and the same)

[leaden hedge]

where did it go?

[heavy scarab]

I once created an entire roster of 200 species not counting alternates.
Which I divided between a base game, deluxe edition, over 20 dlcs and 5 anniversary creatures

[lost saffron]

This is it

[hollow flower]

I feel like only these are needed

[slim flare]

Pretty much

[hollow furnace]

What, no love for azhdarchid intent.????

[low bridge]

Hipopotamus Gorgops is good addition to game?

[hollow flower]

Yknow i never really knew what the difference between it and the modern hippo was

[hollow furnace]

Big

[outer crater]

💀

[wary nacelle]

Aren’t tarbosaurus and deinocheirus in the game? Gallimimus is coming soon… or are those the ones that are already confirmed/added

[hollow flower]

Confirmed/added

[wary nacelle]

Kk

[median relic]

zanabazar could be neat

[slim flare]

https://www.halopedia.org/Zanzibar

Would go hard

[buoyant zephyr]

You have it?

[median relic]

for a troodontid roster what do you guys want

[lean hound]

a troodontid

[short rover]

Stenonychosaurus, Arctic alt, and saurornithoides

Medium forest alt, large arctic alt, and small desert alt

[lost saffron]

No Tarchia??

[silver steeple]

It's eyes are more vertically positioned

[low bridge]

Beeson Antiqqus is fine?

[short rover]

If you mean Bos antiquus

Then I’d say no it’s not worth an addition

It’s likely a subspecies of American bison and long horned/steppe bison is a much better addition

[low bridge]

Ye

Wht abt Syncerus Antiqqus is it meh?

[short rover]

It’s cool but unnecessary imo with Bos already coming post ea

[silver steeple]

I thought that was latifrons

[low bridge]

It's Bison not Bos

Bos is Primigenius or im wrong

[hollow furnace]

You are wrong

Bos is the genus with both cows and bison

[median relic]

latifrons is like, the epitome of an animal that I want but not for a while

[short rover]

nope

[short rover]

its Bos

[silver steeple]

Tbh I could see the "artic alt" being something like the mammoths have

Skin with a certain size range and coloration

Not necessarily a different species or anything tho

Or ig like the Cosmic Lambeo

[short rover]

that could work too, i dont really mind as long as we get a big troodontid found in prince creek

[silver steeple]

Biggest issue is that the PC trood has like no name or anything

[short rover]

it do be just a tooth

[silver steeple]

And a braincase

[short rover]

oh i didnt know it had more material

[hollow furnace]

two braincases in fact

[silver steeple]

Unfortunately not enough to make it not just "troodontidae indet." But heyo take what you can get and all that

[autumn plover]

Isn't Latenivenatrix the large arctic Troodontid?

[hollow furnace]

nope

[autumn plover]

Either way, if we get a Troodontid it should be the large arctic species so that we can have a theropod from prince creek

[slim flare]

Nah

Prince Creek? More like Shit Creek amiright?

[autumn plover]

I'd rather that than a jawbone fragment from some overhyped Tyrannosaur

[hollow furnace]

As an alt/pseudo alt yes, there should at least be an actual animal as well though lol

[slim flare]

Why

[autumn plover]

Because it's a jawbone fragment

phenomenal addition

[slim flare]

The PC Troodontid is what?

[hollow furnace]

as opposed to tooth statistics

[autumn plover]

oh its only teeth?

how do we know its so large then?

[hollow furnace]

and two braincases

[slim flare]

^

[hollow furnace]

tooth statistics

[slim flare]

There’s a reason it’s not described

[autumn plover]

fair enough then, i didnt realise it was another Nanuq situation, arguably worse

[hollow furnace]

High latitude troodontid teeth are on average twice as large as lower latitude troodontid teeth

With about the same spread

[slim flare]

Prince Creek sucks

[autumn plover]

If it wasn't very far north and cold no one would care

[slim flare]

Everything is dubious and/or fragmentary, and it wasn’t nearly as cold as most would havevyou think

[hollow furnace]

It's kind of interesting, Laten is about the size of the average Prince Creek Troodontid but there was also Arctic 'latenivenatrixes' based on tooth sizes

[autumn plover]

Is laten known from good material?

[slim flare]

Laten = Stenonychosaurus

[hollow furnace]

Laten is, but Laten is just a large morph of Stenonychosaurus

[autumn plover]

I always thought that it was the prince creek troodontid just given a name

[hollow furnace]

nope, completely different

[slim flare]

Dinosaur Park

[autumn plover]

ah

seems like Stenonychosaurus is the best choice then

[slim flare]

That and an Asian Troodontid

[autumn plover]

Utah, Austro, Velo, troodont (Stenon/asian species) seem like the best pics for sickle clawed maniraptorans

[slim flare]

Deinonychus…

Also terror birds if you’re going to word it like that

[autumn plover]

non-avian

I've posted reasons why I disagree strongly with Deinonychus but I wont go into them today

[slim flare]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[slim flare]

Good because you’re wrong

[autumn plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-curses-skeletor-angry-he-man-gif-15367692

[median relic]

I think with stenonychosaurus being the troodon, it's a good choice. You can have arctic and zanabazar as alts

and then you have a separate slot for a smaller troodontid like tamarro

[hollow furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/who-korath-the-pursuer-marvel-kree-meme-gif-14580500

[slim flare]

Obligatory Pectinodon mention (it has unique teeth)

[silver steeple]

*named

The teeth at least have been described

Dunno about the brain cases

[hollow furnace]

they have

But pre-Troodon split

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236585353_Description_of_Two_Partial_Troodon_Braincases_from_the_Prince_Creek_Formation_Upper_Cretaceous_North_Slope_Alaska

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/despair-suffer-suffering-sad-sad-quotes-gif-14270258133567956444

Vibes based referral moment

Anyway, probably too different to be an alt but I like the idea of Mei long being an alt or something lol

[hollow furnace]

I feel like even adult Mei would probably be terrarium-sized

athough ig maybe not

[silver steeple]

Dang are they that small

[slim flare]

I thought it was just mentioned

[hollow furnace]

they're about juvie Velo sized

[silver steeple]

Dang lol

[silver steeple]

Nah

[median relic]

little guy named a couple years back now I think, found to grow very very quickly

[heavy scarab]

I'll try to show it

[short rover]

No

It’s not even valid

[low bridge]

Platybelodon is obscure or Arsinoitherium

But idk which obscure u mean

[quick ore]

Which early proboscidean do we think would be a better choice for the game: Moerithierum or Numidotherium?

[low bridge]

Moeri ofc

[quick ore]

imo I like Numidotherium more

it has more charm

not really anything else like it

[short rover]

Moeri

[quick ore]

Any reason why though? You know about Numidotherium right?

[silver steeple]

Moeritherium is far more popular for one

Its been cemented in WWB as like the basal elephant relative

Imma be real, the only reason anyone knows about Numido is because Joschua Knuppe made a big deal out of it

Not that it isn't an interesting animal, but otherwise it just has like 0 charisma lol

[hollow valve]

In fact, most of my knowledge of certain prehistoric animals comes from the Walking With Series as well as stuff like Prehistoric Park and other documentaries.

[low bridge]

Arsinoitherium has seen Nigel Marvin

And is Elephant relative

[hollow valve]

Yeh I remember that scene.

[plush nacelle]

People simply put emphasis on word associated with animal a lot. Modern moeritherium lowkey mid since it most likely had no trunk, but some some sort of small prehensile lip

[hollow valve]

On a different note, part of me feels like either of these guys (Impidens and Trucidocynidon) would make decent additions to the PK Roster too. (Not sun if they’d be mini-exhibit animals or normal ones tho.)

Image Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CR6qeqHLyGO/?img_index=1

Instagram

[lean hound]

The first one could work as a full exhibit animal imo

maybe the second one

[sharp dock]

big rat boi

[hollow valve]

Yeh. I’m just hoping larger cynodonts get representation alongside the smaller ones.

[plain knoll]

We need the goat dreadnoughtus,even if it's a alt genus of argentinosaurus

Also tameryraptor as alt genus for carcha will also be good

Mapusaurus as gigas alt genus(if we get giga)

[low bridge]

Dude Dreadnoughtus haters will appear they see Argentino as only Titanosaur

[plain knoll]

I never knew there were dreadnoughtus haters?!

[low bridge]

There are people who say that Dready Lizard isn't needed in game when Argentino is

[low bridge]

Gigas?

Joke

Mapusaurus with Abeli Skorpiovenator would Fit

[plain knoll]

Haha I accidentally made a joke,gigas instead of giga's

[low bridge]

That would be Great

Since with Argentino lived 3 big Carcharodontosaurids and Ton of other sauropods and few abelis

Taurovenator, Meraxes Gigas, Mapusaurus

Crazy formation

[hollow flower]

Shikamaia as a decoration

Not sure if this falls in the plant spec chat

[smoky spear]

repost from #pk-discussion what do you think if devs include alternate genera of free ones in a patch called alternate genera expansion patch?

like giraffatitan as brachio alt or patagotitan as argentinosaurus alt

[plush nacelle]

Sure, but I dont think there should be dedicated patch for them. Like one per update seems already nice

[smoky spear]

devs have said they wont add alt species/genus to animals already in game

at least for free

[hollow furnace]

they have said they won't add them period

dlc or otherwise

[smoky spear]

[plain knoll]

Oh that be amazing

[low bridge]

Megacerops or Embolotherium???

[lean hound]

Megacerops

[hollow flower]

I like embolo more but I think Megacerops is the better choice

[sharp dock]

I think I should eat eighty pounds of coarse gravel

[hollow flower]

Precisely

[short rover]

Crazy that out of all the taxa you spew into the channel with reckless abandon the one you choose to have an opinion over is fucking dreadnoughtus

Truly the addition of all time

[hollow flower]

But in all seriousness whats a good titanosaur to add

[hollow furnace]

Saltasaurus

[hollow flower]

You right

[short rover]

Salta

Magyra

Paralititan

Nemegt maybe?

[hollow flower]

Magy is the ideal dwarf sauropod

Could put it in like

[short rover]

Pretty much anything other than another giant South American Cretaceous titanosaur would be preferred

[hollow flower]

an island pack alongside a dwarf elephantid

Parali is the one from Africa right?

[short rover]

Yeah and iirc it has weird proportions?

Lived with spino and carch

[median relic]

parali does?

[hollow flower]

I get it confused with one that sounds like it but is from south america

[short rover]

I think so? I can’t remember tbh

[short rover]

Patagotitan

[hollow flower]

Yes

Due to that ive gained a dislike for Patagotitan

[short rover]

Which is largely what the argent ingame is based on I believe

[hollow flower]

Very childish reasoning on my part but yeah

[hollow furnace]

Somewhat

Patago really isn’t that much more complete tbh

[sharp dock]

what is paralititan

[hollow furnace]

Big titanosaur from Eygpt

Lived with Spino

[short rover]

Giant titanosaur from the bahariya formation, coexisted with carch and spinosaurus

[sharp dock]

aaaa

[hollow furnace]

Not the first any more

[sharp dock]

and it's interesting to have because.....

[hollow furnace]

it isn't

[short rover]

Iirc it has proportions that are unique? I can’t remember where I heard that tho or if I misremembered

Also I’m not advocating for it to be ingame by any means

Someone just asked to list some titanosaurs and I gave them the best options

Would much prefer salta or magy

[hollow flower]

Is sauroposeidon a titanosaur?

[short rover]

No

[sharp dock]

magy is fine

[hollow flower]

Intruiging

[sharp dock]

is europasaurus also a titanosaur?

[short rover]

No

Its a macronarian

Same with sauro iirc

[sharp dock]

whats the difference

[hollow furnace]

Titanosaurs are macronarians, not all macronarians are titanosaurs

[short rover]

Macronarians are a more basal and earlier group

[short rover]

Oh Woops

[hollow flower]

Brachis a macronarian right?

[short rover]

But yeah Europa I know is semi related to brachiosaurus and those dudes

[short rover]

Yes

[hollow flower]

Sauro does look alot like it

just with an even more longer neck

But yeah Salta and magy seem like the best options

[short rover]

And idrc abt those too much either

[plush nacelle]

Paralititan is like one limb and 2 tail bones. This is exact opposite of good inclusion

[short rover]

Amarga sweep

[hollow flower]

Neither are very high on the sauropod wishlist

[short rover]

In comparison to other titanosaurs?

Which is why I even brought it up

Also all big titanosaurs are frag lol

Do not look up how much material argent has

[hollow furnace]

My wishlist for sauropods in order basically goes Amarga, Niger, Mamenchi, Shuno, Salta, Europa

[hollow furnace]

Dreadnoughtus is pretty decent

[short rover]

All was over exaggerated but a lot

[short rover]

I agree except I’d swap Europa with salta and get rid of Shuno (:

[sharp dock]

where diplodocus

[hollow flower]

Same here but with Europa swapped for Magy

[short rover]

Oh yeah lmao add that too

[hollow furnace]

Diplo isn't even in wishlist for me it's basically confirmed

[sharp dock]

My wishlist would be: Niger, Amarga, Mamenchi, Magyaro/Europa and Isisaurus numbah one

[hollow furnace]

Like, not that I don't want it, but I don't see any point in ranking it because it's coming regardless

[sharp dock]

yeah thats fair

[short rover]

Amarga, dippy, mamench <- base game
Niger, Europa, salta <- dlc

For me

[hollow flower]

Shunos pretty neat no?

[sharp dock]

You guys really overrate how neat that sauropod is

[hollow flower]

Also adds more Shaximiao rep

[median relic]

come on shuno is neat

[sharp dock]

Mamenchi is all the shaximiao rep I need

[hollow furnace]

Yang

[sharp dock]

referring to sauropods

[hollow flower]

For a sauropod its got a pretty unique look

[plush nacelle]

Brachytrachelopan

[hollow flower]

Oh that is pretty unique

Wonder why it got such a short neck

[short rover]

It’s meh imo

Only thing that makes it that interesting is the club which mamench probably had

[hollow flower]

Id say its posture is also fairly unique for jurassic sauropods

Either way its definetly in my list for sauropods i would want

[outer moth]

Shaximiao is an underrated formation in general

Has the best preserved Metricanthosaur

Good Stegosaur and sauropod diversity

[hollow flower]

The best metriacanthosaur

[outer moth]

And in general, it's a diverse and speciose environment

[hollow flower]

Its in my opinion the second best late jurassic formation

[hollow furnace]

I would disagree, morphologically it’s very distinct and basal looking. It looks almost generic in a very unique way. Short neck, big head, medium-length tail, it really looks very unlike either of the two recognizable clades of sauropods

[outer moth]

In the end, I feel like both Shuno and Mamenchi should make it in

Both have unique proportions

[hollow flower]

Agreed

[low bridge]

Ying and Yang

[outer moth]

No

[autumn plover]

I'd say Diplodocus is important to have for it's popularity and morrison rep, Mamenchisaurus for jp, jurassic asian rep (we have nothing from Asia in the jurassic), and famously long neck, and then either Niger or Amarga for small weird sauropods. Those are the 3 must haves for me, everything else is cool to have but not that necessary.

Mamenchisaurus is also good if we ever get Yangchuanosaurus

[short rover]

Fair I suppose, I just think there’s quite a few I’d rather get beforehand

[autumn plover]

I'd also argue that having the longest neck out of any Sauropod is more of a draw than a tiny club. Even if you choose to reconstruct Mamenchi without one

[low bridge]

Igloodocus

Lol

Joke

[silver steeple]

Not a good one

[low bridge]

Ik

Is Ampelosaurus meh?

Or replace him with Rapeto

[short rover]

Oh I would too, they both contribute to making it unique tho

Plus weird proportions

[hollow furnace]

Absolutely agreed, that’s why I placed it 4th, but I still think it has some pretty unique and interesting features that make it worthwhile

[autumn plover]

implying that either are worth adding

[short rover]

Neither

[hollow furnace]

Past Amarga, Niger, and Memenchi, we kind of get into the realm of “kinda neat, but definitely not necessary”

[autumn plover]

^

[short rover]

And dippy

But yeah

[autumn plover]

^

even then i'd be happy with Amarga or Niger

I don't need both but it would be cool

[short rover]

Would much prefer amarga

[autumn plover]

fair, i'm camp Niger but not too fussed.

But yeah we have a lot of good sauropods already

Mamenchi, Diplo, Niger/Amarga are the only glaring omissions remaining

[low bridge]

Alamosaurus what with him?

Or Sauroposeidon

[autumn plover]

Take Argentinosaurus, shrink it a little, put it in North America

[outer moth]

Sauropoiseidon I'm ok with being a DLC

Same with Alamo

Basic DLC fillers that are neat imo

[autumn plover]

Take Brachiosaurus, make it bigger, put it in the Cretaceous

More or less what those species are tbh

[short rover]

Not at all

[low bridge]

Sauroposeidon is NOT brachiosaurid

[autumn plover]

Oh?

[short rover]

Sauro is pretty diff. Not advocating for its inclusion but

[autumn plover]

My bad

so what is it?

[short rover]

It has some crazy proportions

Mamenchi is the superior weird proportion long neck lad tho

[autumn plover]

Is it a transitional form between Brachiosaurus-like macronarians and true Titanosaurs?

[short rover]

It’s a macronarian related to brachiosaurus iirc

Just not a brachiosaurid

[autumn plover]

Oh I see

that's pretty neat

[hollow flower]

Shuno, Magyar, Brachytach and Salta should probably be DLC

[hollow furnace]

Honestly if we were to get another giant titanosaur, I would want one with a smooth texture like the other sauropods aside from Argent

So in other words anything but Alamo lol

[low bridge]

Austroposeidon?

[short rover]

Smooth magy could be neat

[low bridge]

Lizard Earthquake God

He is

[hollow furnace]

Magy is very much not a giant titanosaur

[short rover]

Yoda when talking about sauroposeidon:

[short rover]

He is a titanosaur however

And if you feed him enough who knows the heights he could reach

[autumn plover]

All the Magy material we have just comes from runts

[short rover]

Yes! Little did we know the islands themselves were the adults…

[hollow flower]

You overfeed a Magyar and it grows to be bigger than Argent

[hollow valve]

“Odysseus of Ithaca!!! Do you know who I am?”

Oh wait, wrong Poseidon. Still cool how a sauropod was partly named after him tho.

[median relic]

I think sauroposeidon warrants inclusion tbh

being seemingly the tallest sauropod and pretty well known, plus it's a fun cloverly rep to have with acro. I'd still have it as DLC though

[autumn plover]

I mean the devs seem to be pivoting away from the cloverly

If we get anything from the cloverly I’d rather we get Tenonto back

[hollow flower]

Im more of a Sauropelta man myself

[short rover]

I agree

Tenonto is neat tho

[median relic]

tenonto, sauropelta, deinonychus, and perhaps sauroposeidon all gotta come home some day

[short rover]

Sauropo I could take or leave but I must have deinonychus

[median relic]

honestly you could make a DLC out of that, for cloverly. If you need to pad it out more you can add aquilops

[silver steeple]

Modern tenonto would go kinda hard ngl

[short rover]

True

[silver steeple]

Old tenonto was aight

[open heron]

I wouldn't expect anything from the Cloverly if the ecnah wipe still means anything but I can't lie I do really hope Tenonto comes back.

[silver steeple]

But after seeing what they've done with the modern ornithopods?

They could cook

[median relic]

aura tbh

[silver steeple]

Exactly

[open heron]

Only issue is I really think Tenontosaurus needs breathing room away from being Deinonychus fodder in media but I also really feel like Deinonychus has gotta be in PK eventually too.

[hollow furnace]

I mean, if anything is going to give it some breathing room being in a zoo game where the point isn’t to kill anything and everything seems like a good place for it

[hollow flower]

Whats that one comic with a Teno being jumped by Deinos

But then it just rolls over

[silver steeple]

Good point tbh

[median relic]

give tenonto big claws and make its animations very aggressive, like a mutant horse lol

it gives that vibe to me

[silver steeple]

Would be fun if it had special combat moves with Deino tho

[hollow furnace]

If your tenontos keep getting eaten by Deinon in Pk I think you’re doing something wrong

[silver steeple]

Same goes for some other classic pairings

[silver steeple]

So basically The Isle

[hollow furnace]

Animate an entire set of JWE2 pack hunting animations exclusively for Deinon and Tenonto

[median relic]

except more accurate

[silver steeple]

Lmfao

[median relic]

you can feasibly give real tenonto larger claws on its 3 fingers

obviously nothing huge, but mean scratchers nonetheless

a dinosaur you wouldn't want to let guests near honestly

[silver steeple]

I feel like Iggy already covers that plenty well tbh

[median relic]

eh

iggy is more of a sluggish brawler

[silver steeple]

I don't see how that defies what I'm saying

[median relic]

tenonto lends itself more to fast paced aggression imo

[silver steeple]

Iggy is covered in all kinds of spikes and shit

Its like the FAFO herbi

[short rover]

Tenonto being tempermental would be fun in terms of sociality and behavior within exhibits rather than it being a fighter

[median relic]

the what

[short rover]

Considering it’s a zoo game

[median relic]

I mean yes that's kind of what I meant

[silver steeple]

Fuck around and find out

[median relic]

just an irate creature, like a zebra but a little worse maybe

[median relic]

ah

also I think you could have a bit of fun with feathers on teno

like just some scraggly bits across the shoulders would be fun

[hollow furnace]

I doubt we will get feathers on Tenonto

Despite my best efforts with Mutta

[sand quail]

Maybe give tenonto these scales and patterns

[short rover]

No!

👍

[median relic]

no no nothing extreme

[outer moth]

Maybe not but Tenonto should be given smth cool by the artistic liberty of the devs

[short rover]

Like every other animal in the game yeah

[median relic]

but like I like this a lot

[hollow flower]

Some flashy colours but definetly not that

[median relic]

the base of the tail is kind of raised in the real animal. Obv that doesn't mean it did have them, but it'd add up

[hollow flower]

Speaking of flashiness

[sand quail]

Yeah!

[hollow flower]

What mammal addition could have some brighter colours?

[median relic]

nothing like this though

[hollow flower]

A large portion of them have really earthy colours

[median relic]

entelodonts

around the face I could see some slightly brighter coloration on the jugals

but I'd definitely be sparing with that kind of stuff on mammals

[hollow flower]

When Daeodon comes back it needs to have a skin that has a red face

[sand quail]

Some of the extinct giraffes could have that like Sivatherium

[median relic]

your diagnosis is in... I'm afraid it's peak

[hollow flower]

i look forward to that Poll video

[sand quail]

Same!

[outer moth]

Poll video?

[hollow furnace]

Regalius’ poll

[sharp dock]

god I miss tenontosaurus 😔

[hollow furnace]

but my aim is getting better!

[quick ore]

it is a lot more removed from elephants than Numido or Moeri

[hollow flower]

Its as much of an elephant relative as like

manatees

sure theyre related but theyre not in the same family as elephants

Arsino is in the one thats marked with the red dot

[quick ore]

ik that Moeritherium was in a WWB episode but it has like, basically nothing to it that sets it apart from other extinct semi-aquatic mammalian herbivores. Like you would do better adding a desmostylian, land manatee, or astrapothere. Numidotherium has a bunch of weird qualities that when thrown together make it unique as a relative of elephants

I would love Arsinotherium too

[hollow flower]

Arsino is something Id love to see

However it should really be disconnected from its elephant relations when talking about it being added

[quick ore]

I feel like as far as Tethytherians besides more derived relatives of elephants, a good mix of species would be Deinotherium, Pezosiren, Arsinotherium, and Numidotherium

it would cover a lot of bases

this is ofc without mentioning fully aquatics

like steller's sea cows

[hollow flower]

Id love Stellers sea cows

Ive seen its bones myself

Huge beast

[quick ore]

nice

but yeah, I understand name recognition and I don't think Moeritherium is necessarily a bad choice, but it feels like a wholly uninteresting one compared to Numidotherium

are we allowed to make polls in this channel?

[silver steeple]

You can but I don't see much use in them

[short rover]

Same. Funny thing is they could feasibly work with the aquatic system we have now seeing as they don’t dive lol

[hollow flower]

Discord polls yeah

[median relic]

tough for me because I have nostalgia with moeritherium, though I think numidotherium is a bit more interesting

[sand quail]

https://tenor.com/view/basically-all-of-them-lewis-jackson-cryptolewlew-actually-most-of-them-primarily-all-gif-9470553186862945761

[hollow flower]

We could skip out on Achillo

[sand quail]

It could be a utah cosmetic

[feral cedar]

Utahraptor having an alt would be better reserved for Dromaeosaurus imo

[sand quail]

True

[flint sable]

Pegasus has been out for a half a day, I think it would be perfect for PK

/j

[ebon python]

glyptodon funny fat armodillo

[median relic]

all of these but achillobator

[left spear]

Huh, isn't there a fish already named that

[flint sable]

yes, but the nickname of this specimin in particular is "Pegasus"

hasnt been formally named yet

but yes, Pegasus is a living genus of Pegasidae which are related to Seahorses and Leafy Seadragons, specifically being native to Southeast Asia

[quick ore]

May I just ask, why Moeri over Numido? like is this literally just more people recognizing the name because if so that would be sad

[median relic]

that is mostly it

but moeri is physically distinct, it's more sausage shaped

still I think numido would be fun

[quick ore]

That's fair, I guess my preference is still for Numido

this art Joschua made makes me wanna have an exhibit like it in game

[flint sable]

wough peak

was this for a series or just a one off

specifically the idea of having enclosures

[quick ore]

i think paleostream had an art stream where joschua made a bunch of different art pieces depicting prehistoric species in zoo exhibits

[flint sable]

oh?

do you have any more or just this one

[quick ore]

there's a bunch more

it was for an art challenge I think

[flint sable]

where can i find them in the paleostream server? they look epic

[quick ore]

i just found these on google, he posted them on twitter

[flint sable]

oh ok

[median relic]

god I forgot how peak these were

we really need a modern series about this stuff

prehistoric park gotta be reincarnated

[hollow valve]

I agree. There are a lot of animals it could include in a second season or sequel.

[quick ore]

agreed

or at least a spiritual successor

[smoky spear]

its pretty leggy

[smoky spear]

its far more complete (yes this is a composite but we have a pretty nice idea of its overall look)

compared to this lol

[left spear]

What is It even

Or what do we think It is

[low bridge]

U rly guys wnt Paralititan in game?

Or nahhh

[maiden arch]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CJiRis-wNV8

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FFap90EPHiU

[plush nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-book-fire-book-dies-fire-book-falls-over-fire-book-falls-dies-cringe-gif-7295403596432690175

[sharp dock]

giving EZ more fuel 💀

[autumn plover]

Seeing these two skeletals side by side makes it even harder to understand why people want Patagotitan in-game

It is literally just a slightly smaller Argent

Go hatch Argentinosaurus at 90%-95% neotony.

That’s Patagotitan

[smoky spear]

im fairly certain the in game argent is based on @glass turtle skeletal

which is like almost the same as his patagotitan

[hollow flower]

I seem to have missed the brontothere talk in #science-chat

In my opinion in terms of brontotheres we should have 2

Megacerops and Embolotherium as the eocene equivalent of Coelodonta and Elasmotherium

[autumn plover]

So they’re still almost the exact same thing.

Take a 90-95% Argentinosaurus from the nursery.

Then change whatever randomly generated name it’s given to “Patagotitan”

[smoky spear]

yeah

[low bridge]

Stop what is your problem

[autumn plover]

Well I mean you do have a habit of suggesting lots of incredibly random animals.

[nimble wedge]

I would like Camptosaurus, Parkosaurus, Cryolophosaurus

[kind oriole]

@limber nexus how's the presentation of the survey results going?

[outer moth]

And does it rhyme with Grug?

[limber nexus]

The Script is going well

And I think it’s gonna go well

[runic tiger]

the survey is over right? can you post the google doc ahead of this video?

[limber nexus]

I will be posting the results with the video

Because I don’t want it to be spoiled for people who want to watch the video

[limber nexus]

Yes, it rhymes with grug

[sharp dock]

Thank u grug

[inner wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-talking-meme-thanos-talking-meme-thanos-speech-gif-1800590086203910493

community species suggestion users when arguing why this generic af dinosaur should be added over the other generic dinosaur because it was an apex insectivore of the baja blast formation

[heavy scarab]

Would Hyphalosaurus make a good amphibious terrarium animal?

[hollow furnace]

i would like it

funky

[hollow valve]

What does Hyphalosaurus look like?

[slim flare]

Just a stupid lizard

[hollow valve]

Woah awesome.

[sharp dock]

Baja blast formation rofl

[silver steeple]

What a goofy little guy

[heavy scarab]

Hyphalosaurus is from the same formation as Microraptor and there was a famous fossil of Hyphalosaurus with 2 heads!

[outer moth]

Me when all extinct species are sacred and deserve love:

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[autumn plover]

The comedy and audacity of someone suggesting Hyphalosaurus straight after this

[low bridge]

Macroeuprachtus is neat addition

[heavy scarab]

Well he said generic af dinosaur not generic af aquatic reptile

[hollow flower]

A cool easter egg for this one could be where besides albinos and melanistics, a two headed one could occasionally appear

[limber nexus]

Prehistoric kingdom fans unironically suggesting a creature that no one knows about, that’s only known from a nut sack fossil

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-26155047

[hollow flower]

In your poll I think i saw like

a coral?

or something stationary of its sort

[sharp dock]

To the surprise of no one

[heavy scarab]

Along with Hyphalosaurus my other suggestion for an aquatic reptile in the terrarium would be Mesosaurus

[cosmic pelican]

Any fellow stegosaur stans?

Flesh out my Jurassic/Triassic roster 😭

[slim flare]

Kentrosaurus

[cosmic pelican]

Would love some psudosuchians and late synapsid megafauna too

[median relic]

postosuchus/teratosaurus, prestosuchus/saurosuchus/fasolasuchus, ornithosuchus, smilosuchus/redondasaurus, sillosuchus/shuvosaurus, poposaurus, lotosaurus, arizonasaurus, there's really too many pseudosuchians I'd want