Community Species Suggestions

[quaint plank]

Same animal

[wary nacelle]

While we’re at it add every dinosaur from Antarctica (trust)

[plain linden]

An actually good depiction of beipiaosaurus

[wary nacelle]

Oh and this includes palaeeudyptes klekowskii. I need me my 6 ft 8 penguin boy

[quaint plank]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t we find melanosomes with beipiaosaurus

[hollow furnace]

We do

[wary nacelle]

Brownish red/dark brown I’m pretty sure is what we found from them

The melanosomes that is

[hollow furnace]

Brown, yeah

[quaint plank]

Similar shape to borealo then?

[wary nacelle]

glacialisaurus (trust. Doesn’t have to be feathered)

[quaint plank]

A platypus?

[wary nacelle]

PERRY THE PLATYPUS!

But no

It’s a basal sauropodomorph

[quaint plank]

We should’ve gotten it as an alt for Plateo

[wary nacelle]

This is not the best rendition

[wary nacelle]

YES

plus we also deserve yunnanosaurus

[quaint plank]

I deserve my beloved yutyrannus

[hollow valve]

Do be do be do bop
Do be do be do bop
Do be do be do bop

A! Gent! P!

(Just joking.)

[wary nacelle]

I deserve my beloved parvicursor as a terrarium animal

Plus ubirajara

(We don’t talk about informalness)

[toxic oriole]

Y'know what, I'm just gonna put em here again

Alligator Gar, or at least a member of Atractosteus

Any could work

[buoyant zephyr]

Hehe

[runic tiger]

honestly a neotenic plateosaurus could act as a stand-in, dont really see a need to make it a whole new animal

maybe an alt species of plateosaurus if anything

[low bridge]

Should Stupendemys be in game?

[hollow flower]

Of course

[sage gull]

Prionosuchus

[low bridge]

Is Mourasuchus, Gryphosuchus needed as 2 big crocs that lived in Miocene SA with Purrusaurus and Stupendemys?

[sage gull]

We need amphibians and I think it would be a very good addition

[sage gull]

Lots of crocodiles lol, but it would be nice to have them all someday

[low bridge]

Miocene SA was land of giants

[plain linden]

Stupdentemys is stupdidly big

[low bridge]

He was morbidly obese

[plain linden]

like it was just a less aquatic archelon

[low bridge]

He's bigger than Archelon

[plain linden]

archelon is the largest sea turtle,but ig stupendemys takes the cake for largest turtle of all time

[low bridge]

I forget one animal that lived with Stupendemys, Mourasuchus Gryphosuchus, Purrusaurus also

Josephoartigasia

[plain linden]

BIG CAPYBARA

we need that

[low bridge]

Miocene SA was the biggest in Cenozoic

Pleistocene Africa was the weirdest

[low bridge]

700 kilogram Capy

[plain linden]

Africa,Asia and Australia had the weirdest fauna (except permian,in that case,all continends had weird fauna)

[low bridge]

In Africa was Stegotetrabelodon, Deinotherium Megantereon, Dinofelis, Ancylotherium, Sivatherium, Hippo Gorgops, Agriotherium, Rusingoryx

[plain linden]

tbh hippo gorgops is just a bigger hippo,that ain´t weird at all 🙏

[sage gull]

I'd like these crocodiles to be in the game:
-Kaprosuchus
-Sarcosuchus
-Deinosuchus
-Purussaurus
-Stomatosuchus

[low bridge]

Stomatosuchus has full stomach

[plain linden]

no wonder it´s called stomatosuchus

[low bridge]

Nope look at his eyes how it were placed

[low bridge]

Picky Eater lol

[sage gull]

I think these 5 would be the best for the game. Do you think there is any more that is "necessary"?

[median relic]

well depends on what you mean by crocodiles

[plain linden]

Mahajangasuchus as a kapro alt (or the oposite,maha as the main guy and kapro as the alt)

[median relic]

out of pseudosuchia there's plenty of picks, but specifically more modern croc shaped ones? idk

but I really want to see a sebecid and a triassic rauisuchian in the same game

[sage gull]

Those that look like crocodiles lol

[plain linden]

Also postosuchus for some of that triassic representation 🔥

[sage gull]

That's a very good addition to the game, although I don't consider it a crocodile haha

[plain linden]

it´s croc-like tho 🔥

[low bridge]

Sivatherium with Bramatherium alt is good or trash??

[plain linden]

also maybe desmatosuchus (i thought it was a strange ass looking nodosaur the first time i saw it im ngl)

[median relic]

nah

[low bridge]

Emptystomachsuchus is needed

Lolllll

[plain linden]

D r i n k e r
G r e m l i n
G b y

or was it Zby-

i forgot

[sage gull]

Of course, I really hope they add sivatherium and if there is an alternative, even better

[low bridge]

Whtt abt Stegotetrabelodon??

Horned Gopher

Palaeoloxodon Falconeri

[sage gull]

It would be nice to have it in the game, although I would prefer to have the Deinotherium first

https://tenor.com/view/deinotherium-my-love-heart-locket-gif-21143414

[hollow valve]

While Walking With Stars are on topic, I think Eustreptospondylus would be a cool addition too: https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/dino-directory/eustreptospondylus.html

Mostly because I haven’t seen it get too much love outside of WWD.

[median relic]

ehhh

[hollow valve]

Yeh. Not the best idea admittedly. I’m just trying to come up with something that could work.

[low bridge]

What about Prodeinotherium as Alt sp for Deinotherium???

[sage gull]

What's the difference? I see them the same lol

[low bridge]

Is Ancylotherium needed?

Rly

Or trash african chalicothere

No one likes him

[hollow valve]

I think Moropus would probably be a better Chalicothere personally.

[low bridge]

Is he from Africa?

Nope Agate Springs

Olduvai Gorge mammals are needed

Dinopithecus, Sivatherium, Deinotherium

Dinofelis, Megantereon, Ancylotherium

[sage gull]

I need the chalicotherium

[hollow valve]

Funnily enough, Sivatherium is on my wishlist for PK too.

[low bridge]

Sivatherium with Bramatherium alt

Discokeryx is neat

Pachycephalosaur giraffe

Prolibytherium

Is everyone alive

[hollow valve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y7aWLpuxA4

[quaint plank]

construction worker?

he’s the engineer, random man on youtube

Anyways, I want a bunch of animals

[hollow valve]

What kinds?

I’m trying to keep my suggestions to a minimum.

[quaint plank]

Platybelodon, any megaraptor, Maiasaura, at least one new ceratopsian, a new tyrannosaur

[toxic oriole]

You wouldn't mind if it were a Proceratosaur, right?

[hollow valve]

I think Nanuqsaurus would be cool for the Tyrannosaur one. Unless it’s already in PK.

[toxic oriole]

Ehhh it isnt

[quaint plank]

My favorite dinosaur is a proceratosaur, specifically yutyrannus

[quaint plank]

No.

[toxic oriole]

Figures

[quaint plank]

Zhuchengtyrannus

That’s one that I’d wanna see instead of nanuq

[toxic oriole]

Arent there like, three tyrannosaurs that used to be part of Tyrannosaurus before they became their own thing?

Tarbosaurus is one of those guys

That one I know

[quaint plank]

Probably daspletosaurus

[toxic oriole]

If I had to guess, its because Daspletosaurus may have been the one that eventually became Tyrannosaurus

May

Not true entirely, I just see it that way

[quaint plank]

It’s a logical idea

[hollow valve]

Prehistoric Assassins claimed that it was outcompeted by its descendants/tyrannosaurs succeeding it, but I’m not entirely sure. That show was more focused on predator brutality and hunting methods with only some accuracy sprinkled in there.

Imma be honest, their models and animation style looked more like something from a video game than a documentary.

[hollow flower]

A huge majority of things id like for this game are not dinosaurs I must say

[quaint plank]

I really hope we do end up getting pterosaurs and aquatic animals

[low bridge]

Stupendemys pray for him

You guys know one simple thing like everything in Cenozoic was bigger, scarier and weirder than everything that lives today

Giant Cuban Owl, Stupendemys, Titanoboa, Quinkana, Dinocrocuta

Etc

[toxic oriole]

I've got a feeling snakes would be tedious to animate

[quaint plank]

I want fish tanks so I can showcase my beloved sacabambaspis

[slim flare]

Cenozoic is now

[low bridge]

But extinct animals from past are something else

[slim flare]

The giant Cuban owl went extinct like 12,000 years ago

[toxic oriole]

I still think Atractosteus would ironically be a good fit for the game

[slim flare]

I mean that’s just saying “things we don’t have seem weird to us”

Which is true but obvious

[hollow valve]

Atractosteus?

[toxic oriole]

Or, going off one species, the Alligator Gar

[quaint plank]

One non-dinosaur that I wanna see that I haven’t mentioned is my good old friend, the one and only, American cheetah

[toxic oriole]

(I know they aint extinct, though some other Atractosteus species are)

[quaint plank]

I decided to spice it up and go with a Cenozoic animal

[low bridge]

What about Prolibytherium

[quaint plank]

Weird

I like em

[toxic oriole]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atractosteus

I'll bite on that reaction

[slim flare]

Is there a specific cool extinct species?

[toxic oriole]

Oh, right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gar

The gar

Gars in general

OOOOOH its this one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oniichthys

[low bridge]

Stupendemys and Meiolania should be worshipped in game

Megalochelys also

Joke guys

[slim flare]

It closely resembles the modern genus Atractosteus, and is generally placed as its sister genus, a sister to Atractosteus and Lepisosteus, or even as a species within Atractosteus as per Grande (2010)

[toxic oriole]

THATS the one I was looking for

THATS the one I was wanting to be added

[slim flare]

Ok then

[trail gyro]

Viatkogorgon is the best non Inostrancevia Gorgonopsid

Great semi aquatic terrarium

[median relic]

how do we even know it was semi aquatic

also that is incorrect when rubidgea and lycaenops exist

[trail gyro]

It had adaptations that made it a good swimmer

So the spinosaurus of the Gorgonopsia family

[trail gyro]

Lycaenops and Rubigea are nice

But

Are basically smaller versions of Inostrancevia

[quaint plank]

https://tenor.com/view/hands-up-shea-brennan-sam-elliott-1883-i-surrender-gif-14092940839057421531

[trail gyro]

It’s too under rated

[median relic]

like?

[median relic]

wrong

rubidgea is of similar size to ino and has bosses, lycaenops is a silly little african guy

[low bridge]

Skorpiovenator, Rugops, Rajasaurus, Majungasaurus for Abeli for Prehistoric Kingdom

[median relic]

rugops and skorpiovenator with no carnotaurus is diabolical work

and raja can be a majung alt

[low bridge]

Carno is U.20

[median relic]

fr?

[autumn plover]

That’s not confirmed just highly speculated

The only confirmed animals in EA are Allosaurus, Stegosaurus, Baryonyx & Gallimimus

[low bridge]

Maybe but higher force on this server knows everything and predicts future

[median relic]

ok then
carnotaurus with aucasaurus alt, majungasaurus with rajasaurus alt, after that is anyone's game imo. I'd be cool with skorpiovenator or rugops, but I also love eoabelisaurus

[trail gyro]

Hind leg length plus a lizard-like tail

Similar to monitors

[median relic]

is ardipithecus too human like for the game

[cinder python]

Well how smart is it

[smoky spear]

im surprised you could type that out

pretty sure hominid names are blacklisted in certain channels because people kept suggesting adding them to pk

[median relic]

it's one of the more basal hominins so idk probably not too high

[smoky spear]

💀

[median relic]

huh???

[smoky spear]

try typing hominid genera and species in main discussion channel

your comment will be removed by automod

[cinder python]

Well we do have one hominid in the game

[median relic]

man but what if they ain't even suggesting it

[smoky spear]

no idea why people want to add more of them

the ones we have in game already crash the game performance

Can you imagine adding even more complex ones?

[cinder python]

If they would add more hominids never going to happen but it they did it would be fun to see the detail differences from the humans to other ones

What kind of stupid animal would walk on two legs

[smoky spear]

Dinosaurs duh

[hollow valve]

And their modern relatives aka birds.

[cinder python]

It was a human joke

No offense theropods

[autumn plover]

I’m not even sure if we’ll get non-hominid primates because of how complex their social behaviour is.

[hollow valve]

Not even something like Archaeoindris like I suggested up here?

[low bridge]

Is Leptoptilos Falconeri needed?

[autumn plover]

I literally just said why even more primitive primates are unlikely and you just asked me if a hominid-like primate is likely 😂

[hollow valve]

Archaeoindris is/was a lemur. I don’t remember lemurs counting as hominid-like.

[heavy scarab]

When it comes to primates, the only one I'd really like to see is Gigantopithecus though it's not super high on my list.
In addition a small extinct primate like maybe Darwinius would make a nice addition to the arboreal terrariums.

[sharp dock]

I await the glorious coming of paleozoic species

[hollow flower]

Indeed

Permian animals my beloved

But seriously i dont really get why they cant be in early access

[sharp dock]

I kinda understand

As much as their addition would unironically be REVOLUTIONARY (no game has ever focused on paleozoic species aside uhh ark ig) paleozoic remains as the most obscure period in general

[hollow flower]

Yeah

[plain linden]

-# mostly because they are ALOT older than mesozoic and cenozoic-

[hollow flower]

That and like

[lean hound]

Hadean eon?

[sharp dock]

Period with life dummy

[hollow flower]

Most animals in the Paleozoic are fairly small compared to the mesozoic

[sharp dock]

True but on the other side
Inostrancevia

[plain linden]

they would look great as starting animals tho

[hollow flower]

Yeah

True

Early permian things feel very like

[plain linden]

The absolute ginomours amount of dimetrodons 💀

[hollow flower]

Startery?

Is that a word?

[hollow flower]

Like Ophiacodon and the lord Coty feel like the equivalent of Jpogs Dryo and Cerato

[plain linden]

8 dime species is already a W for dime

altough im certain some might be dubious

[hollow flower]

Yeah when Dimetrodon is added i dont think one species will have more than 2 skins

[plain linden]

i´d say they add 1 of the big ones,then a mid sized,and finally a small one for the terrariums

[low bridge]

Sivatherium is needed

[lean hound]

it's such an odd size range for a single genus

[plain linden]

i guess the dimetrodon build was just that good

[sharp dock]

The basis for me would be
Dimetrodon
Inostrancevia
Moschops
Scutosaurus
Lisowicia (Triassic but idc)

[plain linden]

just add a paleozoic cousin of liso

[lean hound]

I love the triassic

[plain linden]

altough liso could prob come in a triassic pack

[sharp dock]

Liso doesnt have a paleozoic cousin

[plain linden]

well shi-

[sharp dock]

There is like a single decent sized dicynodont pre triassic

[plain linden]

wait coty is paleozoic or triassic?

[sharp dock]

Coty is paleozoic afaik

[hollow valve]

Yep. It’s Paleozoic.

[plain linden]

cotylorhyncus then

[sharp dock]

But coty aint as big as liso

Lemme check what dicy was large

[plain linden]

they don´t needa be big bruh

if they go small,terrariums

if they are decently sized,enclosure

[hollow valve]

I also suggested Purlovia earlier since it doesn’t appear much in Paleo Media apart from ARK.

[lean hound]

but coty is coty

[sharp dock]

We got
Odontocyclops

[hollow valve]

I’m not seeing a whole lot of Therocephalian Suggestions in general tbh.

[sharp dock]

Odontocyclops and endothiodon are pretty large species of dicynodont that lived before the triassic, unfortunately too obscure to gain attention

Also honestly who cares if some species are not strictly paleozoic, they still represent key paleozoic lineages and thats what matters 😤

Lissowussy my beloved

Who wouldnt love an elephant sized dicynodont

[hollow valve]

Probably someone who didn’t know it was a thing.

This sort of stuff is why I’m also suggesting animals I haven’t been seeing pop up in suggestions. Because not too many people know about them and I think they’d fill pretty nice roles in PK if they make it in.

[autumn plover]

Oh my bad I got the name confused with the hominid posted up top

[hollow valve]

It’s ok. I just wanted to see if non-hominid primates were out of the picture too.

[buoyant zephyr]

Lystrosaurus is Paleozoic too though?

[low bridge]

Edmontonia is needed

[buoyant zephyr]

Though the Paleozoic species were smaller than the Triassic ones

[heavy scarab]

When it comes to the paleozoic. Dimetrodon is at the top of my list. Some others I'd like to see include; Scutosaurus, Inostrancaevia, Estemmenosuchus and of course some paleozoic amphibians like Diplocaulus and invertebrates like Arthropleura and Meganeura

[hollow flower]

Anteosaurus is the most underrated animal of the Paleozoic in my opinion

[sharp dock]

Anteosaurus is based

Defo a stronk contender

[hollow flower]

Anteo, Dime and Ino are the equivalent of Trex, Spino and Giga

If you are gonna do a game with permian animals you gotta have them

[sharp dock]

Big mean bozos

Also water loving anteo would go so hard

Hippo jaguar

[wanton panther]

How about The Cannibal of Madagascar? If anyone can guess who I’m referring to.

[feral cedar]

nah fr

Anteosaurus has ontogenetic development that involves a skinny animal bulking up as it grows older, particularly around the skull

Very tyrannosaurid

Also, bone-crunching bites

[hollow flower]

It and Carno are the two main abelisaurs we need

[lean hound]

over 14 people have suggested it in the last 2 months

[wanton panther]

Oh

[low bridge]

Crocodylus Thorbjarnarsoni or Euthecodon???

Guys

[buoyant zephyr]

What would the Cenozoic equivalent be then?

[low bridge]

Australia pack with Thylacoleo, Diprotodon,Procoptodon, Quinkana, Meiolania, Varanus Priscus, Genyornis

[sharp dock]

meiolania my beloved

[sage gull]

https://tenor.com/view/turtle-dancing-turtle-dancing-gif-26053064

[median relic]

also ivantosaurus and megawhaitsia

[median relic]

• palorchestes, macropus titan, dynatoaetus gaffae, giant echidna

[hollow flower]

Ivanto is really underrated

Its a weird thing that convergently looks like a gorgonopsid

Looking into this Megawhaitsia thing

It looks like a convergently evolved Thylacoleo

[toxic oriole]

Ivantosaurus?

[hollow flower]

The main problem with it is its crazy name

[lean hound]

boringg

[hollow valve]

Yeh, personally I think we have plenty of hadrosaurs already regardless.

[inner wedge]

#1360542295228944414 message

this is my paleozoic wishlist if u care 🥺

i'd add suminia and elginia to it

also i basically memed ivantosaurus in this chat

[inner wedge]

the average dino fan isn't ready for the absolute peak of paleozoic life

[plucky mantle]

Paleozoics would be really nice because it'd add a ton of small-medium sized species that the game desperately lacks right now

[low bridge]

So this is boring for you hmmm

I can do better

Let's go lol

[lean hound]

maia is just another edmonto clone

[low bridge]

This will be a hard choice

[outer moth]

Maia isn't an edmonto clone

far from it rlly

[lean hound]

Meant that in a generic hadrosaur sense

I just think there are more unique ones to add before maia

[plush nacelle]

Game could use either small hadro or from other continent than NA

[low bridge]

Only one

[outer moth]

I mean even as a hadrosaur they're fairly unique
That and the fact that they have heavy notoriety due to their discovery fueling the theory that some dinosaurs were good parents

Not saying completely unique, but defenitely a neat hoofstock option

[plucky mantle]

Maiasaura is also uniquely from a fairly arid environment which is very rare for Hadrosaurs

[outer moth]

Arid?

[plucky mantle]

Yes

[outer moth]

I thought it came from the Dinosaur Park formation which was mostly forested

Man I'm rusty

[plucky mantle]

It's from Two Medicine Formation

it was a semi-arid savannah environment

[outer moth]

Ahh, gonna need more research on that for sure

[low bridge]

"The Shadow of Death" is good addition to game?

[hollow flower]

Maip is the Megaraptoran i want most in the game

[median relic]

maybe

[lean hound]

The shadow of death that kills in the cold wind large chest

[low bridge]

Carnotaurus is needed

[hollow flower]

Of course

[low bridge]

Wonder if Titanovenator was real

[outer moth]

Remains are somewhat real, the genus is illegitimately named, however

[hollow flower]

Well it certainly did exist

[outer moth]

For now it's the Turkana grits abelisaur

[hollow flower]

I highly doubt it will be named Titanovenator though

Or just the kenyan giant

[outer moth]

I hope it gets a cool swahili name tbh

[hollow flower]

I mostly hope its got a bit of a simpler name

Or atleast one that rolls off the tongue

[outer moth]

Hope so too but I like it when local species are named in local fashion

Like Alpakarakush

[hollow flower]

Ubirajara was pretty decent back when it was valid

[median relic]

I just don't really like the name titanovenator

[inner wedge]

HOT TAKE (at least for you suckers)

this game ideally should ONLY have a marine+aerial expansion

[hollow furnace]

Correct

That is a hot take

Now go in the corner and think about what you’ve done

[median relic]

what does this even mean

like what are you saying

[runic tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-eric-balfour-insane-you-sound-insane-whats-going-on-with-you-gif-15314345

[low bridge]

Cave Wolf when?

[outer moth]

I haven’t seen a Mesozoic savanna before so that’s why it was pretty hard to guess lol

There any paleoart of it?

[plucky mantle]

Morisson formation is also savannah.

[plucky mantle]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Maiasaur_Pano-v1.jpg/330px-Maiasaur_Pano-v1.jpg this is the only piece I know of but I'm sure there's more than this

[runic tiger]

probably because grass is a core visual component of what we think of a 'savannah'

and grass wasn't really a thing for almost the entire mesozoic

tropical dry grasslands were around though, they just looked different

[median relic]

I had no idea bonapartenykus was this big, it looks wrong
it'd be neat in game

[outer moth]

I’d assume we’d have some sort of ferngrass then?

[rich ocean]

Gotta love my favorite clobberhead

[heavy scarab]

It's coming

[hollow valve]

Ok. I just remembered that I also thought about suggesting Macrauchenia at one point: https://www.livescience.com/59627-macrauchenia-strangest-animals-tree-of-life.html

Honestly, not only would it add a really neat trunked mammal, but it would be a unique way to represent Letopterns by taking a really well known one.

[quaint plank]

Oh cool

[hollow valve]

Thx. I haven’t seen this creature get as much love as it could, which is why I figured I’d suggest it too.

[median relic]

not trunked, but still

[hollow valve]

Yeh, I’ve seen some confusion on whether or not Macrauchenia had a trunk and, if not, what it did have.

[left spear]

I think It had a tapir trunk/nose? Don't take It as fact tho

[hollow valve]

That sounds about right. Makes me wonder what PK’s take on it would be.

[silver steeple]

It did not

The most likely explanation is a moose/camel like extensive lip

[hollow valve]

What’s your source?

[silver steeple]

Something like this would be much closer

[silver steeple]

The bones

There's no osteological correlation for anything approximating a trunk or tapir like nose

Malayan tapir skull for reference

[hollow valve]

Ok, great argument, but where did you find all this information?

[silver steeple]

Literally just search "macrauchenia skull" and Malayan tapir skull on google

Literally every image looks like that

Better yet where is your info on Mac having a trunk? Beyond it being a common thing in media (which is not a primary source) there's very little strong literature to back the idea up

[hollow valve]

I’ve mostly just gotten it from past depictions of the creature as well as looking at Paleo-Art. Some creatures are just more tedious to find accurate info on.

Part of why I suggested Purlovia earlier is because I was hoping that PK could give it a more accurate depiction despite the absurdly limited info on it.

[silver steeple]

A quick Wikipedia skim even gives you the paper that practically debunks Mac Trunk btw

I can post in #science-chat if you'd like

[hollow valve]

By all means go ahead. Thank you.

Sorry for all the confusion. I just wanted to add the Mac to my list of suggestions and wasn’t sure if it would be a good one. Namely since I’m mainly suggesting less well known/brought up animals.

[silver steeple]

I personally think Mac is a great suggestion

I just wanted to clear the air on the trunk thing

[hollow valve]

And I think you did a great job with that.

Want me to show the rest of the suggestions I made or would you rather look at them at a different time?

[silver steeple]

Up to you

[hollow valve]

Thx. I started my suggestions up here if you’re wondering.

[sharp dock]

I love macrauchenia, its a funky feller

[hollow valve]

Very funky.

[sharp dock]

it might not have a trunk

but it surely had some luscious lips 👄

[low bridge]

Darwinopterus, Rhamphorynchus when?

[outer moth]

Prehistoric wildlife doesn't exactly have the best size estimates

[cinder python]

I was more focused on the species is not really the size

[lean hound]

I wonder where it's from 🤔

[cinder python]

Yeah I have the same question too

But it was for Argentinosaurus

[outer moth]

It literally says the site on the bottom right

[lean hound]

I was talking about the animal

arizonasaurus

[outer moth]

Yeah

The US state of Arizona

A state in the Southwest of the US

Actually also where they found Dilo

But different locale

[hollow flower]

I looked at the trello to see what potential species could be in future updates

was this dude always there?

[hollow furnace]

for a few months, yeah

[quaint plank]

I’m gonna call him Dr. Tomlinson

[lean hound]

it was a joke damn

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-boo-gif-20747494

[sharp dock]

sail

[heavy scarab]

Macrauchenia is also one of my favorites. As for the nose, the nostrils are high up on the skull which led scientists to believe it might have had a trunk.
However the recent theory is that it's nose was more like that of the Saiga antelope

[hollow flower]

I must say old Megatherium was a little ugly

But i would love to have it back with better textures

[glass snow]

i hate mac’s skull though it looks like 9 years drawing of an animal skull

human teeth with no gap and like seemingly no nostrils and what looks vaguely like a blow hole

[hollow flower]

Seriously though

Its got the most default looking skull ive ever seen

[outer moth]

Looks kinda like a protowhale

[hollow valve]

Speaking of Protowhales, I saw a suggestion to add Ambulocetus and really liked it because I think Protowhales of any kind would be awesome to represent somehow.

[lean hound]

A lot of people seem to think ambulo is coming in u18

Personally I'm in doubt because they'd have to add diving

[hollow valve]

Yeh. It’s going to add two piscivores and a carnivore. Although they could just as easily add another Spinosaur alongside Baryonyx such as, say, Suchomimus, Irritator, Ichthyovenator, Oxalaia, or something along those lines.

I know I see Baryonyx being one of the animals it could add but I’m not sure what the other two would be.

[hollow furnace]

“Have to” is a very strong statement

[outer moth]

They can cheat diving in somehow

I know em

[left spear]

The popular guesses are Baryonyx (comfirmed for EA), Ambulocetus and Deinosuchus as the meat eater

[outer crater]

could also be Castoroides

[left spear]

If It isn't Ambulocetus then i could see It being Austroraptor

[left spear]

That would be a Herbivore/Frugivore

[outer crater]

it's all carnivores?

[plush nacelle]

We know there is one semi-aquatic mammal

[left spear]

Also a tree for chipping/biting would be goated as enrichment

[hollow valve]

Why Austroraptor, just out of curiosity?

[left spear]

2 piscivores and 1 carnivore

[outer crater]

wow

[left spear]

1 piscivore is essentially confirmed to be bary

[plush nacelle]

If not ambulocetus, then it still it has to be semi-aquatic mammalian piscivore

[left spear]

I doubt it's another spinosaur

Sucho/icthyo would be more of a DLC thing

Austroraptor would be my non-ambulo guess

Tho by how Ida talked a while ago It doesn't seem like

[outer crater]

Is it confirmed that 1 will be a mammal?

[plush nacelle]

Ya. We have been told year ago one of EA mammals will be semi-aquatic species

As full species of course, because there is also terrarium one apparently

[left spear]

Oh yeah i forgot about that

So unless it's something like Enhydriodon which would be funny if bizarre it's a whale

And the only semiaquatic whale that you could get away with without diving would be Ambulocetus

[lean hound]

I don't see how else they'd do it

[hollow furnace]

By swimming on the surface

[lean hound]

I guess

[left spear]

Also there's not much else

Like say another piscivore semiaquatic mammal

Enhydriodon

And like

No

[lean hound]

Tbf they'd need to add underwater viewing if they were gonna add diving

[left spear]

(not that i don't like It i love It but y'know what i mean)

[hollow furnace]

Again, "need to" is a strong word

[low bridge]

Call him DrWho

[hollow furnace]

It would be nice to get all three, (ambulocetus, underwater viewing, and diving), but none of the three are predicated on the adidition of any other the other two

[hollow flower]

I really do hope its Ambulocetus

Adds way more Paleogene variety

[lean hound]

It would be pointless to add a diving animal that guests can't clearly see diving

[hollow furnace]

The point is that an animal diving is cool

[lean hound]

It is cool but it's still a zoo game

I'm looking for penguin exhibits without underwater viewing and the only ones I've found don't look that appealing

I'd still prefer to get ambulo without underwater viewing than not get it and not have underwater viewing

[idle hearth]

All of them, but better be in a future DLC pack (Ice Age Australian Outback) for PK 🌏

[hollow valve]

What other kinds of creatures have been confirmed/how many other mammals were planned?

[hollow valve]

Yeah same here. Not to mention that Ambulocetus was part of Whale Evolution’s ‘still getting accustomed to water’ phase. It could just be portrayed like an otter or something, unless they instead decide to use Enhydriodon or some other legitimate extinct otter.

[lean hound]

Don't otters dive a lot?

[hollow valve]

Yes, but they also come onto land and iirc there are otter exhibits that don’t need or have underwater viewing.

Not to mention that I imagine Underwater Viewing is something I can see them absolutely adding regardless.

[plush nacelle]

Back then we have been told about 6 mammals. It being: ursus, megaloceros, semi-aquatic mammal, obscure terrarium critter and 2 being unspecified at that time. Now we learnt remaining habitat species are most likely ambulocetus, megatherium and doedicurus.

[hollow valve]

Where did we get the implications for the latter two?

[lean hound]

One way I see them doing underwater viewing is without already placed water

[lean hound]

some sort of premade pool that you can customise size wise

[hollow flower]

Dimetrodon is confirmed post early access

Allo, Stego and Pachycephalo are confirmed for update 17

[hollow valve]

And a bit earlier I was told that Hyaenodon and Daeodon will be Post-Early Access Animals too.

[left spear]

Pachy technically isn't

But it's clear as day

[hollow valve]

Yeh. Assuming the other non-cancelled Early Access Animals are also getting in, I can see Prenocephale and Miragaia getting added in too.

Albeit I’m kind of sad that Nothronychus got canned in favor of Deinocheirus.

[hollow furnace]

four more mammals in EA (or 1 to 2, the numbering was confusing), one of which is semi-aquatic, one of which is terrarium

[hollow furnace]

We were given a blurred teaser for post EA ideas for animals, that's where a lot of the statements about what's coming post EA are from:

[hollow valve]

Thank you.

Joke Idea: If Postosuchus makes it in, it would be funny if someone did an Easter Egg or something referencing Postman Postosuchus from Lapwingfilms’s WWD YTP Series.

[low bridge]

Austroraptor when?

Needed anyways

[low bridge]

Indohyus

[hollow flower]

I must say if all of these are correct its a really solid list

The only odd inclusion I think is Ornithomimus

[hollow furnace]

Yeah, I would like to see (almost) all of them

[hollow furnace]

Ornithomimus is a good pick, it's important to have a healthy roster of small starter animals too

Gallimimus is a lot bigger than Ornitho

And ornithomimids are like the quintessential "filler" animal for mixed exhibits, and Ornithomimus/Struthiomimus provide good filler for Horsehoe Canyon/DPF/Hell Creek

[hollow flower]

Fair enough

I personally would just prefer a Moa over it

[hollow furnace]

Moa would be something completely different, and seems to be potentially coming in the recently extinct pack

[ancient ibex]

sad small ornithischian noises

Hoping after release thescelosaurs start being reconsidered

In addition, Ornithomimus would be a relatively low effort animal; borderline Galli alt, and that is good

[hollow flower]

I guess Orni does live with some semi famous animals

[ancient ibex]

Like Triceratops 🙃

[hollow flower]

ah

Its from the hell creek?

[hollow furnace]

It's...complicated, but yes

North American ornithomimids are a bit of a mess

[ancient ibex]

Type of Ornithomimus comes from the Denver formation, which is faunally equivalent to Hell Creek

[silver steeple]

Ornithomimids form a good hoofstock "replacement" for a zoo game with prehistoric animals as its focus, along with hadrosaurs/smaller ornithopods

[hollow valve]

This also gives me some ideas for Post-EA Update Structures.

• Triassic Animal Themed Update: Placerias/Lisowicia and Postosuchus

• Jurassic Animal Themed Update: Ceratosaurus, Dacentrurus, and Diplodocus

• Feathered Therapod Themed Update: Austroraptor, Gigantoraptor, Therizinosaurus, and Yutyrannus

• Less Popular Dinosaur Themed Update: Albertosaurus, Ornithomimus, Prenocephale, and Suchomimus

• Paleogene Themed Update: Chalicotherium, Gastornis, and Hyaenodon

• Neogene Themed Update: Amphicyon, Daeodon, and Deinotherium

• Quaternary Rounding Out Themed Update: Colombian Mammoth, Longhorned Bison, Paleoloxodon, Mastodon, and Short Faced Bear

[autumn plover]

That and the Columbian mammoth. We already have a Woolly mammoth, I think gomphotherium or moertherium would have been better choices

[hollow flower]

I disagree but that might be due to my love for elephants

[autumn plover]

It’s still elephant like animals

Just not one so similar to one already in-game

I think paleoloxodon, deinotherium, mastodon were all excellent pics

But yeah I also kind of agree with Ornithomimus

Another Ornithomimid is good, im not super educated on ornithomimids but I would have thought either archaeornithomimus or pelecanimimus would have been better choices as they are more distinct from Gallimimus?

[lean hound]

yeah if you're adding elephants and their relatives adding more unique ones should be priority

[sharp dock]

boopies loopies doopies

[hollow valve]

Personally, I just hope that we get at least a couple of the creatures listed for Post-Release ideas, my highest hopes being for the Cenozoic and Triassic Animals.

[low bridge]

Where is Platybelodon, Stegotetrabelodon??

Im Stegotetrabelodon, Deinotherium big fan

[hollow flower]

Elephants are a weird case in that if you are interested in them even slightly a large amount of them makes sense

But if not then youd only want like

3-4

[low bridge]

Any weird Elephant is needed

No leftovers stay behind

So Deinotherium, Stegotetrabelodon, Platybelodon, Arsinoitherium, Palaeoloxodon, Moeritherium, Anancus, Columbian Mammoth, Mastodon all needed for game

If you want to hate me just do it

[autumn plover]

“Only”

We currently only have 5 genera (4 base animals) of sauropod

One of the most famous dinosaur groups

It’s an insane amount of elephants being considered

Not a bad thing but there aren’t being done dirty at all

[tulip umbra]

Growing up i fell in love with ornithomimus in Prehistoric Park, so i very much hope it gets added with a blue neck skin as a nod to PP.

I hope ornitho gets to see the media again cuz idk any other “big” media that has ornitho, always getting overshadowed by galli and fam smh

[lean hound]

yeah even 6 elephants and relatives would be going over the top

[autumn plover]

I’m not sure about that, we’re getting a lot of sauropods

[lean hound]

maybe in a dlc specifically for that area of animals but more than two more genera in the base game would be too much

[lean hound]

they're much more diverse though

size wise

[autumn plover]

I’m just surprised that 3-4 is considered a small amount

[lean hound]

yeah EZ has some odd opinions on the world of prehistoric kingdom

[tulip umbra]

I doubt they would make a dlc with only elephants, like pz and jwe u gotta have a somewhat diverse pack to appeal to the most ppl

[autumn plover]

Not EZ

It was Maunomanly

For the record im not saying the number considered is too much

I’m saying Columbian could probably be switched out for something more distinct

[lean hound]

By area of animals I meant elephants and their distant relatives

[lean hound]

I was referring to "So Deinotherium, Stegotetrabelodon, Platybelodon, Arsinoitherium, Palaeoloxodon, Moeritherium, Anancus, Columbian Mammoth, Mastodon all needed for game"

sorry for that @ it was an accident

[autumn plover]

I don’t mind

Yeah at the end of the day

Logistics

Well b lucky to get more than 4 of them

Like sauropod-wise

I doubt we’ll get a ton more

I’d be happy with Dipolodocus, Mamenchisaurus, and either Amargasaurus/Nigersaurus

But a lot of people in this channel would ask for 5-10 more sauropods

Half of which are clones or glupshittos

[autumn plover]

Doubt we’ll get that many though

Just cos of logistics

[lean hound]

All i want is paleoxodon (the dwarf species too!!), deinotherium, Stegotetrabelodon and Platybelodon

Though i doubt we'd get them all

[hollow flower]

Deino, definetly
Stego would be nice but more of an extra if anything
Platy is a classic
Arsino is so wildly different body wise it shouldnt even be here
Palaeo, while a little generic, has way too much species potential to pass up
Moeri is really different from all the other elephants
Anancus isnt necessary in the slightest if we can make Zygolophodon a mastodon alt
Columbian mammoth is a real classic la brea animal
Mastodon is unique and a classic

[autumn plover]

Yeah Mastodon, Deinotherium, Paleoloxodon were perfect pics

[lean hound]

Not my suggestions

[autumn plover]

Moertherium is basically the Plateosaurus but for elephants

[hollow flower]

I know

I was too lazy to go find the original

Which was only 10 messages away

[hollow flower]

Yeah more or less

[autumn plover]

And another weird one like either platybelodon/stegotetrabelodon/gomphotherium would be good. But I’d rather add different animals instead of all 3

Deinotherium is already a freaky fella

[hollow flower]

If i had to pick like

2 for launch

Deinotherium

Love that horrific beast

[autumn plover]

Yeah Deinotherium is the best “weird” elephant

[hollow flower]

And then itd be either platy or mastodon

But not both

Platy has the merit of being quite freakish looking

Mastodon has the alt potential and better formations

[sharp dock]

I sometimes wonder if devs ever look at this chat and sigh profusely when seeing people asking for gajillions of animals for the game

[hollow flower]

Yeah i wonder that too

[autumn plover]

Probably

[hollow flower]

Like i occasionally put say

Anteosaurus in the search

[autumn plover]

They probably sigh at all of our discussions

[hollow flower]

And the lists i see are ludicrous

[autumn plover]

And the same animal being suggested 50 times

[hollow flower]

To be fair

The same animal being suggested 50 times may indicate its wanted by the community

Unless its one guy doing it

Then its annoying

[lean hound]

I wonder who..

[autumn plover]

Doubt it influences the devs decisions much

[lean hound]

[autumn plover]

I searched Suchomimus, it appeared 27 times which is peanuts. Most of the time it was in one of those “lets suggest 20 animals all at once” posts

[hollow flower]

If we want to know the popularity of suggestions polls are easily the best way to go about it

[autumn plover]

Still being considered

[sharp dock]

I kindly suggest a Kelenken while pointing at the devs with a rifle

🙂

The choice is theirs!

[autumn plover]

The only time Sucho had a suggestion post dedicated to it was my own

[tulip umbra]

Meh its a good thing imo, it shows that ppl are excited for the future and what the devs will deliver

[sharp dock]

Sucky mimus

[hollow flower]

Extracting data from suggestions that are written is not nearly as good as polls but they instead give reasonings for those suggestions

(So long as the suggestion has a reasoning for it written)

[tulip umbra]

Which can be good for the devs seeing a lively community, its way better than having a dead or no community

[median relic]

(viatkogorgon)

[hollow flower]

Of the spinosaurs id like to see sucho is the one id like to see most

[autumn plover]

I actually like reading suggestions that are thought out and provide reasons for why that animal should be added, even if I disagree

[hollow flower]

It being the most terrestrial of its family and being still huge makes it very intruiging

Also i love the thin head it has

[autumn plover]

But I’d love to see suggestions where it’s literally just the name of an animal banned

[hollow flower]

Oh absolutely

[autumn plover]

At least put effort into it

[hollow flower]

I dislike the ones where its literally a sea of suggestions with no format to them

[autumn plover]

“Please add eoraptor, deinonychus, neovenator, Irritator, chasmosaurus, hypacrosaurus (and so on for 50 genera)”

[hollow flower]

I like this one because it gives a common thing these animals have in common and puts them in specific groups

[autumn plover]

Nothing against those animals in particular

[hollow flower]

Of course

[autumn plover]

Yeah because they actually put thought into it and it’s interesting to read

[median relic]

personally to have more proboscideans I'd love to see
palaeoloxodon (namadicus and falconeri), mammut (americanum, pacificus, and zygolophodon alt), deinotherium (giganteum, bozasi), and for early ones I think arsinoitherium makes a great DLC, and you can have numidotherium in the base game

[hollow flower]

Lemme look at numido

[sharp dock]

Arsino is a nice feller

[median relic]

idk I like moeritherium but numido is cool

[hollow flower]

Lord that is ugly

I like it

[median relic]

could do phiomia??

[autumn plover]

I got a question about Arsinoitherium in science chat

[median relic]

dicynodont with a beluga head

[hollow flower]

Arsino is so different from every other elephantid that i never really include it in those talks

[median relic]

ok arsino is not an elephantid and apparently not even a proboscidean

[hollow flower]

Its a must have that i find is disconnected from the elephant talk

[median relic]

yeah ok include arsino as a separate things

[hollow flower]

So you can include it without decreasing total number of elephants

[median relic]

but as for other actual old proboscideans: numidotherium, moeritherium, and barytherium would all be neat (but only one, maybe each other as alts)

[autumn plover]

Yeah people like to call it big Bary, but we have evidence of a different lifestyle, it’s actually really complete for a Spinosaur and it’s certainly not as similar to Bary as people make it out to be

[median relic]

this art features all 3

[hollow flower]

Ive also noticed there seems to be a camp of people who prefer less uniquely shaped animals over more unique animals from the cenozoic

And the reason why that is seems to be due to said less unique animal being from the pleistocene for some odd reason?

What im trying to say is theres a bit of a pleistocene bias in addinh cenozoics

But thats just me

[median relic]

tbh I get it, pleistocene has a lot of great animals

but I think we need a break from pleistocene unless it's canids

or australian stuff, or xenarthrans

[hollow flower]

Yeah

Overall pleistocene currently is great

Especially european pleistocene animals

Theres only 3 animals not from that time

If we combine the alts then 2

And both are split between the neogene and paleogene

[hollow valve]

Yeah, almost all of the mammals have been Pleistocene Ones.

That’s why I hope Hyaenodon and Daeodon eventually make it in. To add more variety to the Mammal Roster by adding Pre-Pleistocene Cenozoic Fauna.

[hollow flower]

I should make a tierlist of the animals from the og 50 that arent still in the game

(That arent announced yet)

[median relic]

hyaenodonts, mesonychids, entelodonts, chalicotheres, oreodonts, ambelodonts, pantodonts, desmostylians, etc. are a goldmine

wth is the consensus with andrewsarchus right now btw because I think it'd be neat in game

[hollow valve]

That they are. There are a lot of early mammal groups that could really use some representation in this game.

[tulip umbra]

Bro, i have a full excel spreadsheet with hundreds of animals categorised by era, family, etc and then mark them accordingly like purple = ingame, light blue was in game, etc

Its cool to then see areas where the game might lack representation etc

[low bridge]

Hyaenodon

Moropus

Embolotherium

[median relic]

brontotheres, how could I forget

[low bridge]

Camelids like Aepycamelus, Titanotylopus, Camelops

[low bridge]

Dromornithidae : Dromornis Stirtoni

Genyornis

[hollow flower]

1. Carnotaurus: THE Abelisaur, and one of the most unique theropods
2. Hyaenodon: A staple predator of the paleogene, and a unique build compared to current cenozoics
3. Diplodocus: A classic sauropod with a unique posture from its contemporaries, also long as hell
4. Miragaia: A dacentruriine stegosaur to round out the thyreophorans
5. Daeodon: An omnivorous animal with an infamous reputation, and a unique position in the mammal family tree
6. Ceratosaurus: A classic of the morrison with its distinct horns, you cant have the morrison without it
7. Edmontonia: While not too unique among nodosaurs, its polished and flat armor combined with alt potential make it great
8. Megatherium: A unique pleistocene behemoth that is the equivalent of a cenozoic therizinosaur
9. Yutyrannus: A large feathered medium carnivore make it stand out from others
10. Oviraptor: A classic egg thief, cant have others without it
11. Utahraptor: The largest of its kind, and another feathered addition
12. Guanlong: The basal tyrannosaur, also spices up small carnis
13. Bos: A good filler for pleistocene habitats
14. Prenocephale: A small pachycephalosaur, however there are more interesting ones than this

Good lord

Thats alot of text

[low bridge]

But miragaia is dacentrurus

[hollow valve]

What? 🫤

[autumn plover]

Id argue that Prenocephale is the 2nd best Pachycephalosaurus to add after Pachycephalosaurus

Homalocephale and Dracorex are probably just babies of existing animals

Stygimoloch is probably a species of Pachycephalosaurus

[hollow furnace]

Homalocephale is a juvenile, but probably not of any known pachycephalosaur

[median relic]

same for dracorex possibly iirc

[hollow furnace]

possibly, yeah

[outer crater]

moertherium would be so epic and funny

[plucky mantle]

Homalocephale is a juvenile Homalocephale

[hollow furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-9980668056796018353

[hollow valve]

On a different note, I wholly agree with this idea, since prehistoric bats don’t get a whole lot of representation either.

And for another mammal addition I’d suggest, I think Chapalmalania would be a fun inclusion as well: https://dinopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Chapalmalania

[sharp dock]

chapalmalussy 😍

[hollow valve]

Yeah. I didn’t see anyone suggesting this one when I read up and, considering how underrated it is, I figured it’d be a great Procyonid Suggestion.

[sharp dock]

Well I wouldn't say it's downright underrated, it is fairly known among paleo fans and has a decent amount of paleoart

cuz its le quirky chonky raccoati thing

[hollow valve]

Yeah. I imagine it would be a really cute animal to add.

[sharp dock]

Cenozoic is actually full of quirky creatures, unfortunately most are not that well known among the public
like look at desmostylians

who wouldn't love a weird aaa hippo walrus manatee thing

[silver steeple]

Desmostylians are so bizarre

And kinda ugly lol

[sharp dock]

well I think that's mostly because people suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck at reconstructing them

[silver steeple]

Idk even in the best reconstructions I think they're kinda ugly lmao

Like I think this is probably the best art out there and its still not exactly a looker

[sharp dock]

they are the "why is everyone so mean to me 💔 " meme in mammal form

here's a p cute one

it looks like a potato 😭

[silver steeple]

The goofy creature

Makes me kinda think of those early semi-aquatic manatees

Like Pezosiren

[sharp dock]

oh yeah the

"asked a 5 year old to add legs to a manatee"

[silver steeple]

Lmao ye

The silly animal

[sharp dock]

my sson, he is deflauted

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-thin-cat-gif-12685362

[silver steeple]

Yeah like half the art of Pezosiren makes them anorexic

I don't think they'd be as rotund as modern sirenians but I really doubt they'd be that skinny lmao

All that said, Pezosiren would be a fun guy for a semi-aquatic themed dlc ngl

[sharp dock]

honestly they are a ridiculous creature

[silver steeple]

Truly

[hollow valve]

Yeh. Seems like, no matter what category your animal is in, the further back in time you go, the more strange looking it gets.

[lean hound]

that's adorable what

[hollow valve]

Yeh. I think Desmostylians could make a great addition to the Aquatic Expansion Update in the future. And Chapalmalania could be part of either the Neogene Update I speculated or part of a South America Themed Update.

[outer moth]

I feel like most DLC should be "Location + Era"

[hollow valve]

What do you mean by that?

[outer moth]

Some regions are extremely diverse

For example, South America

The region alone could have a Triassic, Jurassic, Cretaceous, Paleogene, Neogene, and Quaternary pack for each era

[hollow valve]

And I could easily see Chapalmalania being part of the Neogene Pack if that ends up being the case.

[plush nacelle]

If they will be doing as broad packs as whole period niche animals like chapalmalania are definitely not going to be included.

Best chance for animal like this are formation packs

[hollow valve]

Now that you mention it, the PK Updates as a whole haven’t all been focused on one singular formation or animal group. Although how would formation packs work?

[hollow flower]

Well

Lets say theres a la brea formation pack

You could make it Columbian mammoth, Arctodus, one of the ground sloths from there and like

Dire wolf if you were a madman

[hollow valve]

Yeh I can understand that. Although I’m not entirely sure what that would do that affects Chapalmalania’s chances of potentially making it into PK at some point.

It doesn’t have to be right away or anything. I’m just a bit curious.

[low bridge]

Dude Camelops Hesternus, Homotherium, Glyptotherium, Shasta Ground Sloth should be packed with Columbian Mammoth, Aenocyon, Arctodus, Simus

And Bison Antiqqus/Latifrons

[left spear]

Bison is better as base Game update

[hollow valve]

Plus, last time I checked, it was part of the old EA Roster.

[low bridge]

Bison Antiqqus, Latifrons, Priscus

[silver steeple]

I'll be honest the old roster doesn't mean a whole lot anymore

Basically everything there would have to be remade from the ground up to be introduced now so its just a question of whether or not they believe the animal has anything still warranting its inclusion

[median relic]

should cryolophosaurus be DLC or basegame

[silver steeple]

Could go either way tbh

[hollow furnace]

It should only be available to those who solve my riddles three

[low bridge]

Just pack Prehistoric Kingdom with Deinotherium, Stegotetrabelodon, Platybelodon, Arsinoitherium, Megacerops, Aepycamelus, Titanotylopus, Camelops, Ceratogaulus, Ancylotherium, Sivatherium, Dinofelis, Megantereon, Hippo Gorgops, Agriotherium, Rusingoryx, Moeritherium, Anancus, Columbian Mammoth, Mastodon, Homotherium, Embolotherium, Hyaenodon, Daeodon, Stenomylus, Syndyoceras, Synthetoceras, Prolibytherium, Sivatherium, Bramatherium, Discokeryx. THIS TON OF MAMMALS WOULD SKYROCKET GAME, SO DON'T HATE ME

[median relic]

you listed some twice lol

[silver steeple]

Do you enjoy just like shouting random taxa into the void with no further explanation to them?

[hollow furnace]

It’s the only thing that brings any semblance of joy to EZ’s cold, dead heart

[median relic]

like bro we do not need synthetoceras and syndyoceras

also maybe this is a hot take but I'm not too keen on dinofelis

[silver steeple]

If we get another machairodont, imo Homotherium would probably be the best pick

Pretty much as different from Smilo as you can get

[median relic]

homotherium would be so goated

[silver steeple]

Plus its like the second most well known

[median relic]

but I don't want it for a while

[hollow valve]

Yeh. Although iirc Hyaenodon got pretty far in development so they would probably be able to add that one fairly early on Post-EA since they have references.

[silver steeple]

Maybe

[left spear]

Hyanodon is 100% making It in

[silver steeple]

It doesn't mean its more likely than something outright new though

[left spear]

I would bet 100€ on it

[median relic]

also... aepycamelus, titanotylopus, AND camelops???

[left spear]

Even if on a dlc

[silver steeple]

I think its very likely eventually

But they could very easily take it in a whole new direction from what we saw like 5 years ago now

[median relic]

lol

aaallll the camels

[silver steeple]

I think one camel is probably enough tbh

Now whether that should be like Titanotylopus or Aepycamelus or even Camelops is up to interpretation

But I think just one is ok

My personal vote would be Titanotylopus cause of the funny forwards hump

But I certainly wouldn't be upset with either of the others

[hollow valve]

Good point. I’m not expecting the game to get absolutely bloated with any singular animal category nor do I want them to. I just think there could be more variety in mammals they could add in, hence why I suggested Archaeoindris, Sivatherium, a couple terrarium mammals, and Chapalmalania more recently. I don’t think all of them are going to make it in, but I thought I’d suggest them because I think they’d be fun and add more mammal variety.

Not to mention that there’s always the Proto-Mammals aka Therapsids and Synapsids too, which I think kind of need representation more than the Cenozoic Mammals atm.

[silver steeple]

Trust, I am also big on diversity where possible

I would love them to bring Hyaenodon back

[left spear]

I Will say pachystruthio would be fun

[silver steeple]

I love their take on it

[left spear]

Even if it's just an ostrich

Good normal kingdom

[left spear]

Bald rat included?

[silver steeple]

Especially the Xolo one

That was my favorite skin tbh

The inspiration there was just

[hollow valve]

Same here. This also goes for Daeodon, Megatherium, and the Longhorn Bison, since all of them, were really solid picks for parts of the Mammal Roster.

And the hints that we might get Chalicotherium, Amphicyon, and a couple other mammals ignites my hopes as well.

[silver steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[hollow furnace]

The pipe dream is that hyeanodon is suddenly added back like Plateo was

[silver steeple]

Yeah

[hollow valve]

Maybe it could be part of a Post-EA Update focused on adding to the Mammal Roster.

[silver steeple]

Plenty of avenues to return

[left spear]

Hyanodon can be implemented in more ways that species It has

[hollow valve]

Yeh. Out of the listed 18 upcoming animals that have not yet been revealed, seven of them are carnivores. The earlier hope is that Hyaenodon is one of them but I don’t know if they’d throw it in that early on. Same with Daeodon and the Bison.

[silver steeple]

Are you using the Trello?

[hollow valve]

Yep.

I counted the animal categories it had too.

[silver steeple]

If so be sure to account for everything in the Mini Exhibit revamp is a terrarium animal

[hollow valve]

Ok. So that leaves five full blown carnivores with two being Terrarium Animals.

[left spear]

Of those 1 is surely a semiaquatic

[silver steeple]

Probably

Likely the piscivore

[hollow valve]

Yeh. And I don’t think they’re going to focus on certain animals until they get other kinds that make more sense for these updates out of the way first.

IIRC, the Stegosaurus, Allosaurus, and Baryonyx were pretty much confirmed and Megatherium has a good chance of getting in, but I dunno about the rest.

[silver steeple]

Stego and Allo/Sauro are in the artbook

Baryonyx is also confirmed

[hollow flower]

Pachycephalo is soft confirmed from what i heard

[silver steeple]

Megatherium hasn't had anything specific said about it afaik

Same for Pachy

Both may be in those teaser docs that the devs posted

But I treat those with a hint of salt personally

[hollow valve]

Yeh. I imagine Ground Sloths are going to be more complicated and Hyaenodon was teased for Post-EA Updates listed up here.

Any others that are for certain confirmed or just the ones you guys listed?

[silver steeple]

There's a handful

[hollow flower]

Most are post ea

[silver steeple]

I'll see if I can dig up the screenshot

[hollow valve]

Yeh. I know they’re going to add a Pterosaur/Flying Animal Expansion as well as an Aquatic Animal Expansion at some point.

[hollow flower]

Something thats unlikely but would be really cool is a Megistotherium alt for Hyaenodon

[hollow valve]

Yeah that would be really cool.

Honestly, out of the Old EA Mammals, I feel like Hyaenodon would be the most solid first one to be added in because of how unique it is compared to the other ones and, as said, they already have an animation set and sounds for it.

[silver steeple]

H gigas already kinda covers that tbh

[hollow valve]

What does that make H. Horridus then?

[hollow flower]

On that front i feel like Megatherium might have it beat but i still would prefer Hyaenodon

[hollow flower]

Not exactly the best source but this is what i could find

[hollow valve]

Yeh. I’m not one of the devs so it’s not up to me, but I wouldn’t mind either of them coming in first.

[hollow valve]

Yeh. H. Microdon feels more like a Terrarium Animal and H. Horridus would be a good alt, but they’re probably going to primarily use H. Gigas.

[short rover]

DLC imo. It’s very similar to giga in a lot of ways to me

Tho I think I’d prefer it over giga

[hollow flower]

Yeah Cryo actually has distinct physical features

[short rover]

So does giga

[hollow flower]

Well yeah

[short rover]

Cryo is dilo with a diff crest slapped on (obviously exaggerating but)

[hollow flower]

But i can Immideatly tell a Cryo apart from its cousins compared to Giga

[short rover]

Yeah cuz it has a distinguishing crest

[hollow flower]

This seems to be what they originally did aswell

[hollow valve]

Yeh. That’s part of why I said that.

Really, I just think Creodonts are sorta underrated. They set a lot of standards for modern mammalian predators and we don’t give them too much credit for that.

[silver steeple]

Ok I can't find the exact screenshot from Mau but most of the stuff he mentioned at the time has made it into the game already

So its just Allo, Stego, and Bary remaining

Everything else is outside of the original 50

[hollow valve]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-brown-rats-damn-it-charlie-brown-christmas-good-grief-charlie-brown-gif-27105914

[hollow flower]

So none of the leftovers from the og 50?

[silver steeple]

Well its possible

But no guarantees basically

[hollow flower]

Fair enough

[hollow valve]

At least we know that some of them are probably making it into Post-EA.

[hollow flower]

Most I imagine will get added just due to them being good additions

[silver steeple]

Some yeah

Hoping that Yangchuan gets resurrected lol

I have no doubts on Carno making it eventually

[hollow valve]

Yeh. I made this one because there aren’t too many Miocene Animals atm and I think it would be a pretty nice Panda Analog/Procyonid Representative.

[short rover]

Hopefully in update 20

[silver steeple]

Perhaps

[hollow flower]

Wonder what the single species in update 19 is

[short rover]

Oviraptor I think

[silver steeple]

Could be a lot of things

[hollow flower]

That does make sense

[short rover]

Considering it’s a breeding update

[hollow flower]

Yeah

[short rover]

And oviraptor and eggs and all

[hollow flower]

And fits the melon category

[short rover]

Was also ovi in the blurry roadmap but who knows if that’s accurate anymore based on the minis

[silver steeple]

How does Ovi fit frugivore

If it was like an omnivore icon sure

[plush nacelle]

There is no omnivore icon

[silver steeple]

Its usually depicted by using multiple food icons

[hollow valve]

I noticed that too. They only have ones for Herbivore, Frugivore, Carnivore, Insectivore, and Piscivore.

[silver steeple]

Or at least was in the past

[hollow valve]

Yeah, I’m just going to wait and see.

[short rover]

Not in the trello tmk

[hollow furnace]

I don't think fruigvore is that unfitting for an oviraptor

I can see them eating a lot of fruits+nuts

[outer moth]

Honestly I see them doing Citi over Ovi

In general a prettier animal with generally the same role

(Yes I know the two are distant)

[hollow valve]

How distant are they?

[hollow furnace]

No they wouldn't lol

they're not choosing slightly lankier oviraptor over oviraptor

[hollow valve]

Maybe Citipati could be an Alt for Oviraptor tho.

That way, both of them get to make it in.

[outer moth]

No, they're pretty distant
Too distant to be alts

[outer moth]

Citi has better crests

imo

[hollow valve]

How are they distant?

[outer moth]

This distant

No Juxia logic can save it

[hollow furnace]

People do not care nearly enough about oviraptorids to care if citipati is slightly lankier and has a slighlty larger skull

People actually know the name oviraptor

[silver steeple]

Isn't Citipati usually used to reconstruct Ovi anyway

[outer moth]

Is it?

[silver steeple]

Historically at least yeah

A lot of the original Ovi fossils were not amazing quality

Especially the skull

[hollow furnace]

Skull’s actually pretty good, crest just isn’t preserved

[hollow flower]

Someone suggested a weird basal whale and ive been thinking about it alot

[hollow valve]

What kind of basal whale was it?

[sullen garnet]

Macrauchenia

[hollow flower]

It looked like if a legged whale decided to be a hippo

[silver steeple]

Wuh

[hollow flower]

Gabriel made a reconstruction of it

Also Im pretty sure it was in a family by itself

Makaracetus

[silver steeple]

Oh that guy

[hollow flower]

Thats the one

[hollow valve]

What was it known for?

[hollow flower]

I dont really know

It looks funny

"Makaracetus is unique among archaeocetes in its feeding adaptations; its proboscis and the hypertrophied facial muscles"

[silver steeple]

Goofy ahh skull

For some reason people seemed to think it had a trunk???

[hollow flower]

Im starting to prefer this over Ambulocetus

[wary nacelle]

Still love Pakicetus
Weird whale dog pig rat fox that’s semi-aquatic (probably) too

[hollow furnace]

If an animal has an even slightly odd-looking nasal cavity people think it had a trunk lol

[silver steeple]

Pretty much

[hollow flower]

Yeah

I wonder where the Macra trunk came from though

[ebon python]

sauropodseidon

[quaint plank]

I saw sauropoDIO

[ebon python]

fake

[median relic]

people call ambulocetus the mammalian crocodile, but I think that fits remingtonocetus more

[hollow flower]

Wonder where it gets the remington part of its name

[hollow valve]

Yeah. I can see why.

[silver steeple]

That's a mammalian gharial

[hollow valve]

And we’re all certain that Ambulocetus is the one implied to be making it into PK’s Wetlands Update?

[silver steeple]

It's the best bet that fits the bill thus far

[hollow valve]

Gotcha. I wouldn’t mind either of these proto-whales being alts for it tho.

[silver steeple]

Could be neat

[hollow valve]

Pakicetus is a cool idea too. Maybe for some sort of Earlier Eocene Themed Update.

[low bridge]

Should game have more mammals? Other stuff from Cenozoic?

This game is Prehistoric Kingdom not Dinosaur Kingdom

[hollow valve]

I would say yes. Just not so many that they take up slots that other creatures could use.

EX: There are a lot of Paleozoic Animals that could use some time in the spotlight here too. Namely various Synapsids/Therapsids, Early Amphibians, Carboniferous Fauna, etc.

[trail gyro]

Daily Viatkogorgon campaign

[hollow valve]

Viatkogorgon?

[trail gyro]

Underrated gorgonopsid species

[hollow valve]

Ok I looked it up and it looks pretty small.

[trail gyro]

Yeah but it’s cool and isn’t fragmentary invalid genus

[hollow valve]

Maybe it could be a terrarium animal.

[heavy scarab]

Just for fun, let's say in total there were 10 terrarium animals per category. If that was the case, here are my picks for arboreal.
Archaeopteryx, Yi qi, Microraptor, Pterodactylus, Jeholopterus, Meganeura, Passenger Pigeon, Anchiornis, Darwinius and Icarosaurus.

[hollow valve]

I think Archaeopteryx and Microraptor are already in the game and Yi Qi is confirmed.

I would love for Meganeura and the Passenger Pigeon to be added in tho.

[heavy scarab]

I'm aware they are already in I was just naming the 10 total I would want in the game

[hollow valve]

Sorry.

[heavy scarab]

That's alright and I hope I didn't come as rude. 😄

[hollow valve]

You didn’t. I just wanted to bring up the info we have so far.

[heavy scarab]

And here are my 10 picks for terrestrial.
Compsognathus, Mononykus, Heterodontosaurus, Simosuchus, Diictodon, Thrinaxodon, Leptictidium, Ceratogaulus, Pulmonoscorpius, and Seymouria

[hollow valve]

Pulmonoscorpius, Diictodon, and Leptictidium are on my wishlist too. And Compsognathus is confirmed.

I’m also hoping for Volaticotherium for an Arboreal One and either Didelphodon, Morganucodon, or Gobiconodon for a Terrestrial One.

[trail gyro]

I pick Viatkogorgon for semi aquatic terrariums

[hollow valve]

Why Semi-Aquatic?

[trail gyro]

It has adaptations that suggest it was good at swimming

[hollow valve]

And I think there was something about Didelphodon that said that it was semi-aquatic too, so it could also work for those kinds of terrariums.

Case in point:

[heavy scarab]

Here are my amphibious picks,
Tiktaalik, Beelzebufo, Diplocaulus, Isotelus, Eurypterus, Halszkaraptor, Henodus, Mesosaurus, Hyphalosaurus, and Didelphodon

[hollow valve]

Oh hey. We both want Didelphodon in there and Tiktaalik is confirmed. I like your tastes in potential terrarium animals.

[junior glacier]

do we think other species will arrive in U15 alongside Galimimus? I can't remember if there was a creature card on the trello or if it was a suprise

[hollow furnace]

There's only gallimimus in the trello for update 15

[hollow valve]

Yeh. It’s the only one on there for Update 15.

[junior glacier]

right, what I was asking is was there a creature card on there before Galli, or was it randomly announced opening the door for other spontaneous additions

[trail gyro]

We need Viatkogorgon

And Viatkogorgon needs us

[hollow valve]

I wasn’t there when it happened. All I know is that it was part of the March Devlog but didn’t know about the Trello Thing until more recently.

Sorry to say.

[hollow furnace]

There was a card before galli

Sponteneous additions are very rare, only two are Spinosaurus and sort of Plateosaurus

and even plateo wasn't that much a suprise addition

[hollow valve]

Yeah. And I wasn’t expecting the Spino to make it in so early on.

[hollow valve]

Also for those who don’t know what Viatkogorgon is like I didn’t earlier until I looked it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIUvn1NJ41M

Imma be honest though. Considering that there are A LOT of other animals that could use a spotlight too, I’m not sure if this one will make it in that easily. The least it can hope for imo is that it’s a Post-EA Terrarium Animal.

[low bridge]

Aenocyon Dirus when?

[hollow furnace]

thursday the 97th

[low bridge]

In hours or years?

[hollow valve]

I’d love for Aenocyon too but… after hearing the arguments that it would more or less be not too different from a regular wolf portrayal-wise, I’m not entirely sure.

[low bridge]

Bison Antiqqus is good pick?

La Brea mammal

[hollow valve]

Maybe it could be an Alt to Latifrons if that one makes it in.