Hello. i play beast master hunter and i want to make a rotation helper with weakauras. i think i know how to do it. i would like a trigger that counts the enemies that are in combat with me. so that i know when i run a multitarget weakaura. if there is more than one enemy, i want to take that trigger to put it into my multitarget spell. like multishot for example.
Could you help me how to make a trigger, for multitarget? say more than one target in combat with me.
#Multitarget
dusty bough
split geyser
Before you go nuts with it, have ya tried looking at Hekili? An addon that is a full on rotational helper?
dusty bough
the problem with hekili is that it only shows what is top priority. not what i should press to drive maximum damage. for example, kill command should be held on cooldown. but it won't. because frenzy has higher priority. sure you have to have 3 stacks of frenzy first. that's why the prio is higher. but it doesn't do rotation. the other helpers like hero rotation or max dps have the same problem. the only one that does it right is conro. and that has bugs from time to time.
i tried often to compare the whole thing. and the result was mostly the same.
i don't think it will be that much work. a little bit every day. bit by bit.
would only need the multitarget trigger
for enemys in combat
dusty bough
mhh i don't know. i tried to run the rotation of hekili and the rotation from wowhead vor bm hunter. and the one from wowhead makes more.
dps
shell bear
They would be the same given that the guides are written based off of simc results
Eitherway, to answer your question - no such a trigger cannot be made.
There is no easy way to count X amount of enemies are in combat with you
You can look at things like https://wago.io/Byos8GKBZ which is a unique thing for BM hunters in that it can count enemies within beast cleave range of your pet.
But if you want a rotation helper, there is no reason to not use hekili - it will, by default, give you the simc rotation which realistically is going to be the best way to do the most damage
dusty bough
okay. somehow hekili and conro notice via nameplates how much enemies are in combat. i think hekili shows also the number of enemies so i thought weakauras could do something similar.
shell bear
Well you wouldn't want to AoE if there are 2 enemies in combat but they are 40 yards apart
So just counting nameplates is pointless
and you can't measure distance between enemies
The closest thing is the VBC trick, which is very unique to beast cleave
dusty bough
okay. but con ro knows if it shall show aoe or singletarget rota. how does it do that? nameplates needs to be turned on for that feature. it works fine. but sometimes the addon has bugs
shell bear
No idea what that is, you'd ask the author of the addon
dusty bough
don't get me wrong. i'm grateful for your help. i've tried different rotations on dolls. multitarget and singeltarget. and came to the conclusion that it makes more sense to keep kill command on cooldown. hekili doesn't do that by itself. they often tell you to frenzy first.
wowhead the guide says that you should keep kill command on cooldown if you have 3 stacks of frenzy.
this is different from what hekili says.
the only thing i managed to program is that it recognizes how many npc's are around me. but it also counts the ones that are in combat. a custom trigger that flashes an icon when there are more npc's and co around me than a number defined by me
program in weakauras
shell bear
That is not what wowhead says though
There are 2 other conditions for using Barbed Shot that you're forgetting
This is also reflected in the simc APL
actions.st=dire_beast,if=talent.huntmasters_call
actions.st+=/bestial_wrath
actions.st+=/black_arrow,if=buff.withering_fire.up
actions.st+=/barbed_shot,target_if=min:dot.barbed_shot.remains,if=full_recharge_time<gcd|charges_fractional>=cooldown.kill_command.charges_fractional|talent.call_of_the_wild&cooldown.call_of_the_wild.ready|howl_summon.ready&full_recharge_time<8
actions.st+=/call_of_the_wild
actions.st+=/bloodshed
actions.st+=/kill_command
You can see there's quite a few spells before kill_command is there
shell bear
Keep reading
And you'll find the actual priority
Those are just some quick helping tips
dusty bough
that what you say is the priority. not the rotation by itself. of course in the priority frenzy is higher as kill command. you need to have three stacks frenzy first. but after reaching that. it changes and you need to use kill command on cooldown
shell bear
No, that's not true
dusty bough
so you say this one is wrong:
fallow holly
its as wrong as the shell model for atoms
shell bear
Please scroll down a bit more on the page and read "Best Beast Mastery Hunter Single Target Rotation and Priority"
dusty bough
when i play as you say, i would reach two stacks of kill command. and that is something i don't want. or?
good. i don't want to argue. sorry if that came across that way. i'll see what i can do. thanks for your help 🙂
shell bear
It can happen that you hit 2 charges, sure - it would be rare, but it happens
It's just what we have found to be mathematically the best through sims
if you think I, or others, made an error when making the simc apl you are very free to come chat about it on the hunter discord
dusty bough
yes okay. good. i try hekili again and compare it with my playstyle again.
Out of curiosity, I’d like to ask. I’m open to suggestions for improvement. What I wrote here is just what I found out for myself. Of course, I could be wrong. I’ve only tested on target dummies and ran a few dungeons to compare. In dungeons, it also depends on how the tank pulls. On dummies, in multi-target situations, according to Details, I did more with Kill Command than with Barbed Shot. But maybe I’m just making a mistake somewhere.
What’s the name of the Hunter Discord?
shell bear
shell bear
you are very welcome to ask any time of the day in there
dusty bough
how does this fit into the guide? usually, in my opinion, i should use kill command. because it has two stacks kill command and only one stack barbed shot.
the icon on the left side is that what hekili suggests. it ist ghe addon hekili
fallow holly
you can press the pause button and it tells you what
dusty bough
spaten... can you speak german?^^ would be easier for me