#[SPOILERS] Sonic Movie 3

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pale basin
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it was underwhelming imo

tall linden
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got chipotle

hard spoke
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||id ask how sonic and shadow could breath in space, but then i remembered that they're aliens||

grim cedar
strong basin
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What do y’all think

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weary crystal
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Try to match the angle

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That's pretty cool though

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If you have a green sheet of paper you can simulate the background

lime silo
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so my friend looked up Shadow stuff, and how the movie was missing the "Chaos Control" aspect

and honestly... it never crossed my mind that they changed it that he doesn't need the emerald to do it, he just does it at will

stuck solstice
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it's Chaos snap

lime silo
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oh :0c

stuck solstice
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In the games, he doesn't need an emerald to use Chaos Snap

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Not even say it's name. The intro of Shadow 05 and the first cutscene of Shadow's story in 06 are the most prominent examples of this technique

lime silo
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I've been part of this series for so long and I get this shit wrong

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I'm ashamed

stuck solstice
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It's cool, don't worry.

mild fulcrum
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You should be ashamed YOU FRAUD

lime silo
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*faker

mild fulcrum
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You not even good enough to be called faker

tall linden
stuck solstice
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took a bit longer than expected but found it

lime silo
mild fulcrum
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Yeah?

lime silo
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🍝 now eat yo

mild fulcrum
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Not with that attitude

pale basin
kind scarab
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Lol clueless creatures

vernal bridge
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But still I would like 6

pale basin
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I can see 6 also

strong basin
kind scarab
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Its gonna become a long running franchise

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Thinking there will be only 4 6 is cute

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Its gonna continue for eternity

vernal bridge
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I hope they dont go beyond 1 show between movies

split agate
kind scarab
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Main Movie
Show
Spinoff
2d animation

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Thats what i expect

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2d animation being the rarest

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Show being always about a character of the cast

split agate
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all I hope is they know when to apply the brakes when key players behind em start eventually dipping for pastures new

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like, when Jeff Fowler or Tyson eventually dip I don’t wanna see it shambling along as a shadow of its former self, time to hit the reset button

pale basin
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Yeah that's what I can see. But I feel like for either 5th or after should be more exploring around sonic's world

kind scarab
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Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Knuckles
Sonic 3
Shadow the Hedgehog
Sonic 4
The Adventures of Amy Rose
Sonic 5
Knuckles Chaotix

nocturne falcon
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It looks like they're taking things one at a time for the most part

split agate
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100% agreed, yea

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the minute they show up with an MCU-styled timeline plan it’s well and truly joever

pale basin
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agreed

kind scarab
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I dont think it will be long timeline plans

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Just what they might wanna do

split agate
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V much appreciate how anti-MCU it’s been so far tbh

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like I know the Knux show didn’t hit for some but at the same time I’m glad it’s not essential viewing to understand what’s going on in 3

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just a fun lil extra adventure with bezzie mates Knux and wade if you want it, by the side as a treat

hard spoke
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Ye

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I don’t like having to go through external media to understand holes in a trilogy

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Unrelated

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Thankfully, knuckles doesn’t act like that

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It instead acts as experimental white noise for the most part

kind scarab
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I expect shadow series to be the same thing

hard spoke
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Hopefully it’s at least a little bit better

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Maybe shadow learns how to be a better person after trying to destroy the world in the last movie

grim cedar
kind scarab
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I expect the shadow series to be an action comedy

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And omega to be the best character

hard spoke
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Movie omega🥺🥺🥺🥺

grim cedar
solid bobcat
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I think the knuckles series being the way it is is the result of not quite knowing what they wanted to do

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and also they already did the external media stuff with tails actually

grim cedar
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Doing Omega especially in a universe very grounded is quite challenging, But we have to see how they will handle Metal Sonic

solid bobcat
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But yeah you can see in the leaked story boards vs the finish product there were pretty big changes, as to what actually happened in that show

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There's no precedent set that shadow will be "anti mcu" or whatever. Infact given the film the holes in his character the film presents its actually going to need to cover more substancial ground

grim cedar
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This universe is in need of two sentient robots, One good, One bad.

solid bobcat
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This series will end as "mcu" as the rest of em, they clearly are not opposed to that and pitched it from jump

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They wanted that as far back as post sonic 1

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they said it outloud , in interviews

grim cedar
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But how far will they go until the original writers and director decide to move on, and they get someone else to take over.

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We all seen this kind of thing happen, The studios hire someone else to take over there franchise, and most of the time, Its not doing well because they rush the production

solid bobcat
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Not trying to be rude, its just like "They aren't like the mcu" and they already startd

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And pointed to the stands when the first ilm came out that they wanted to do that

split agate
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I mean, what end of the mcu are you thinking cos like

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early mcu comparisons I can get, where they promised things and very much delivered them asap

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current mcu tho?

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absolutely not lmao

solid bobcat
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They have already used sumplimentary material to explan portions of a plot or characters got to point b. And its likely they will do that again, for shadow.

But there's another aspect of this

split agate
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like, if something’s in the postcredits for these things you are getting it in the the next one, in two years I will be sitting down to watch a movie with Amy and metal sonics in

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this is not to be said of the mcu atm lol

solid bobcat
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Simular to the very very very dumpd choice of making RDJ iron man dr doom

split agate
solid bobcat
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Knuckles is gifted powers from an entirely different story

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Robbing that stories potential to exist

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Which is maybe the most modern mcu thing period

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Like i know its a meme, but those "flames of disaster" belong to a cat

split agate
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outside of the wade cutaway (which doesn’t need explaining, it’s just funny as-is) and the flaming fists (which isn’t even explained in the show he just sorta does them lol) it really isn’t necessary

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it’s just a fun lil side adventure

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it’s not like doccy strange 2 and wandavision, to pluck a random example

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where the whole crux of the plot is “watch our show cheers”

solid bobcat
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Sure, its gonna get there though

split agate
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until I see a timeline of planned releases a-la current mcu beyond “we’re making movie 4” I’m so far not convinced lol

solid bobcat
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They aren't above putting seemingly notable info, in say spin off comics. Something far less engaged with than a tv show

solid bobcat
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this shadow in particular feels more shallow than normal. I can see them having his story in quite a few places

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There's a lot of stuff they didn't get into in sonic 3, i doubt that stuff is going to be addressed in sonic 4, because its not about him

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its gonna be addressed somewhere

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And that's how you get the MCU

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And not just him, there's gonna be more and more characters introduced that will need stories told and context given and spin off material for why they exist will just be a thing

stuck solstice
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I mean, that's how You get basic franchises working

solid bobcat
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its clinical

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I do not see the people who work on these projects or paramount having an issue with an MCU scenario

stuck solstice
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It works like that even in Pre MCU stuff

Lord of the Rings, back to the future

solid bobcat
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the MCU isn't a new concept really. Its just one that is struggling because of executive medding.

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I do think there could be a point rather soon where the other materials movies etc will be substancial for understanding characters or locations in these films

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Could

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I don't know how long these films are gonna last but that's a whole different discussion

nocturne falcon
stuck solstice
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Ever since movie 2 they started to throw away the groundness for more Insanity

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So Omega can come just fine

nocturne falcon
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Exactly

solid bobcat
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The further away these films get from being grounded the better they become

nocturne falcon
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Even the Knuckles show which is a little less out there in its stakes goes wacky as hell

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With the dream sequence, the ghost of pachacamac, the comedy and all that

grim cedar
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And I do hope they eventually get more weird when they start adapting from the other games

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Will the Wisp even make some appearance?

nocturne falcon
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If they do go interplanetary with things (which they probably will with shadows backstory) then there's all the chance they will go even more weird

grim cedar
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Some of the stuff are more suited for animation

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If they ever plan to go off world in one movie, then animation can be done

nocturne falcon
pale basin
grim cedar
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Now its up to Jim if he wants to do the 4th, What will it take besides the perfect script to bring him back?

hybrid mirage
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Money

true heron
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Money

grim cedar
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Lots of it

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After seeing how much money this franchise is making, They'll make enough to be able to pay Jim more money to continue making them

vernal bridge
fringe solar
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its kinda insane that they reference man of steel int hsi movie lmao

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literally this scene

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stuck solstice
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Man of steel cooked with that scene

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In the spectacle sense of the Word

fringe solar
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yeah as much as i hate this movie

grim cedar
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Man of Steel was good, Most of the complaints from it was the amount of destruction

fringe solar
grim cedar
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Gotta give this movie for showing us we have never seen done in the video games, Maybe they should take notes next time?

stuck solstice
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Zack Snyder has a very good sense of visual flare for his fights and what not

grim cedar
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Two supers fighting each other was never something we imagined

fringe solar
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i mean sonic x tried

grim cedar
fringe solar
hybrid mirage
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All the season's budget went to that shot

grim cedar
hybrid aspen
hybrid mirage
kind scarab
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5 minutes

grim cedar
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If the Super vs Super fight was so bad ass enough, they are gonna have to top with the Metal Sonic fights somehow

nocturne falcon
hybrid mirage
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He doesn't understand most characters he adapts

grim cedar
hybrid aspen
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i think the issue people take isnt that it deconstructs the superheroes but that it does that in like, a really not good and uninteresting way 😭

nocturne falcon
hybrid mirage
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It isn't even a deconstruction because the foundation isn't even there

grim cedar
stuck solstice
nocturne falcon
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You can deconstruct the idea of superheroes while still portraying superman in an actual good way. some of his best comics literally do this and succeed

stuck solstice
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in interviews, he always says that Batman kills in this movie in 'sutile' ways or not directly

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but in the actual movie he's just destroying people himself

atomic sinew
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I still enjoy Man of Steel for being a completely different take on Superman, that and the action being the closest to having Dragon Ball Z tier fights in live action

nocturne falcon
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He portrays Superman as this emotionless jesus like figure that's above humanity. If you're gonna do bible type imagery then someone like moses is probably a more adept comparison

atomic sinew
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I get why people don't when it spits in the face of so much of what Superman is though lol

nocturne falcon
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You can change stuff from the comics, if it serves a good purpose and if you execute it well.

stuck solstice
hybrid aspen
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just bc the CG looking the way it does doesnt pull me out

atomic sinew
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Mmmmm

stuck solstice
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I can sort of see what Snyder goes for in Man of Steel but I am not sure if he fully landed for me

hybrid aspen
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obviously its harder to make CG humans look good compared to sonic and shadow

atomic sinew
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MoS is much more visceral

hybrid aspen
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it is but also i think a lot of the actual choreography in sonic 3 matches DBZ fights more

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at least the ones ive seen

hybrid mirage
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Superman being devoid of emotion and one to cause such careless havoc is baffling for the character meant to be the equivelant to the feeling of hope. You can knock him down, have him make a bad choice but he will get up and learn and try to fix things and do what's right not for him, but for others. Snyder's take makes Supes just honestly selfish af at times and it's dumb. Me no likey.

nocturne falcon
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It doesn't really help that, at the time Zack just didn't really seem to care for the source material, and more cared about his edgy gritty shit. like this is a direct quote from an interview way back in 2008

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atomic sinew
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I've seen Battle of Gods, Ressurection F, and Broly, and 2/3 of those and their action is on another level

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(I don't remember Ressurection F lol)

stuck solstice
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Resurrection F was very stiff overall

hybrid aspen
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i havent seen any dragon ball

thing

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i just saw clips of fight scenes as a product of being on the internet

nocturne falcon
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this part's just the kicker for me

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atomic sinew
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I still think Battle of Gods is the best Dragon Ball media I've seen overall

stuck solstice
hybrid aspen
nocturne falcon
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Like he's probably changed in the 16 years since or something since, but this is the similar kind of mentality he was going into man of steel with.

atomic sinew
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Synder is the biggest problem

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The movie itself is just whatever to me

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Different character, different rules etc

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Action figures getting mashed together as they do whatever cliche themes there are

nocturne falcon
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The biggest problem is the effect his superman has affected perception around the character

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and what it has inspired since

atomic sinew
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True yeah

hybrid aspen
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at least it got enough pushback to get us where we are

nocturne falcon
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It's only recently outside of the comics that he's making somewhat of a comeback

atomic sinew
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The Gunn movie looks great imo

nocturne falcon
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Which I am happy about but the damage was immense

atomic sinew
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Will def be interested in seeing it myself

stuck solstice
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this will be fun to witness

nocturne falcon
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I'm hyped for Gunn's Superman. I have very few if any concerns going into it

atomic sinew
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I keep seeing Snyder fans rear their heads to hate on it and it always comes off as tryhard lol

nocturne falcon
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The synopsise alone show a good understanding of how to do Superman in the modern day

stuck solstice
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I'm truly interested because I did check Kingdom Come as a story and consider it one of the greatest stories I've read, and this movie is that but flipped on it's head

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but seems to maintain it's core theme

nocturne falcon
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In the current superhero landscape this is the perfect thing to bring general audiences back into what things are meant to be like

stuck solstice
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this story came to show that conventional heroes, those who strive for hope, justice and truth still have a pressence, still have something to give to the readers

fringe solar
nocturne falcon
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More than that, he doesn't seem to want to

atomic sinew
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The ultimate superhero tourist

nocturne falcon
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The guy isn't interested in comic books unless they're being edgy as shit

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Tried to loosely adapt the dark knight returns? ignores the whole fucking point of the book

stuck solstice
grim cedar
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And you can tell, Because he tried to create his own edgy version of Star Wars, and fails it.

fringe solar
stuck solstice
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or finds those aspects mundane, arbitrary and uninteresting

pale saffron
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So

stuck solstice
nocturne falcon
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Thank god for Matt Reeves & James Gunn

pale saffron
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That final stretch of the movie

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Holyshit

nocturne falcon
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still kinda sad the batman part 2's delayed but hey surely it'll be peak cinema

fringe solar
stuck solstice
nocturne falcon
pale saffron
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I don't even know what to say

nocturne falcon
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And at the same time the inner nitpicker in me reared his head at the Gerald & Eggman stuff

pale saffron
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In a positive way

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I'm speechless

fringe solar
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ok gonan shut up about zack lmao

stuck solstice
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Gahoole is Zack's best movie

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:v

nocturne falcon
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Imagine if Zack made the sonic movies 😭

mild fulcrum
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Ass will be more ass

stuck solstice
atomic sinew
stuck solstice
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I don't get the thought process of cooking this much for a movie with owls but me likey

fringe solar
stuck solstice
nocturne falcon
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we'd be taking shadow the hedgehog's adaptation to a whole new level of edgy

atomic sinew
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Genuinely the best contributation TTG has ever made 😭

atomic sinew
nocturne falcon
stuck solstice
atomic sinew
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"This Shadow fucks"

nocturne falcon
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where's that fucking chaos emerald goddamn shit balls

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wait no I'm thinking of hazbin hotel's writer.

atomic sinew
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True

nocturne falcon
stuck solstice
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it would be extremely less funny

fringe solar
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i just feel sorry for superman fans because of zack adaptation and popularity of homelander and omni man many people start to think that superman is boring and evil superman is actually really cool and awesome and better

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atleast james gunn is gonna finally deliver food

grim cedar
atomic sinew
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If anything I think those chars will help refocus the image

stuck solstice
atomic sinew
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The antithesis of Superman

nocturne falcon
stuck solstice
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An adaptation that shows that Superman, being his genuine heartfelt, kind self has a place in this landscape of serious, corporate heroism

nocturne falcon
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It should be the standard if anything

fringe solar
nocturne falcon
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Why did the batman 2022 hit with people? Not just cause it was GRRRR GRITTY VENGEANCE AND VIOLENCE but because by the end it showed that this batman can be more than that

atomic sinew
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Well tbf you have to get a large amount of the audience through the doors with the first part

nocturne falcon
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It helps that it actively shows that this bruce has a few screws loose and leans into that

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he is a truly broken man nearly at breaking point for a big chunk of the movie

stuck solstice
# fringe solar from what we know superman from james gunn is gonan be adaptation of this story

It's that but on it's head as I mentioned before

Kingdom come has a new generation of heroes being reckless and apathic to the world around them. They stop crimes for stopping sake rather than because they want to protect the people. Superman & co must return to the spot so they can guide this new generation in a better path

And this movie is that but on reverse. The established heroes had settled with just being corporative, dry, etc and Superman must come out to show legitimate, genuine heroism in order to bring back the hope that has been long-gone. In this one, Superman is the new generation of heroes, and must show the old gens what they are missing.

atomic sinew
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Honestly batman is such a funny example of superhero to me bc the character is inherently goofy as a concept, but all modern media leans EXTREMELY hard into the edge

nocturne falcon
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I'm glad that they aren't afraid to be goofy or funny from time to time with this batman

kind scarab
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Hes a big man in a furry bat suit

atomic sinew
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Batman and Robin is practically made for oldschool superheroism and yet

nocturne falcon
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fingers crossed it starts to go a little more fantastical as time goes on

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you can't really do stuff like clayface, mr freeze, manbat or a lot of other stuff unless you commit to going down that path a little more

atomic sinew
nocturne falcon
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Ok maybe not goofy upfront

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But I still cackle at "Thumb. Drive."

atomic sinew
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I need to watch it again bc I don't remember that 😭

nocturne falcon
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Or just how much of an asshole he is to cops sometimes

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Like "you just got caught assaulting an officer"
"no, you just caught me assaulting three"

atomic sinew
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Was the penguine series touching any of the campier aspects?

nocturne falcon
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haven't seen it yet tbh

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all I know is, the penguin is not a sympathetic character in the slightest

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speaking of, in the first movie he literally waddles like a penguin after the interrogation 😭

atomic sinew
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This version of batman isn't part of Gunn's new universe right?

nocturne falcon
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No

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it's a part of the elseworlds stuff

atomic sinew
nocturne falcon
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And matt reeves' stuff will be completely separate

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there will be a new DCU Batman, and we know that this one has Damian Wayne as his Robin in the new movie

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so for the first time in over 2 decades, we have the dynamic duo again. in live action.

tall linden
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one of the core fundamentals of batman is that he doesn't use guns or kill people
if you can't get that right, you've failed

stuck solstice
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but you got to do it right in order for it to hit

tall linden
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don't even get me started on other shit zack said about batman lmao

atomic sinew
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I wonder how long that was a defining aspect of Batman exactly

tall linden
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I'm not against a reconstruction, but zack's just had him doing those just cause

atomic sinew
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And whether it was from a legit characterization-only angle vs "Don't use guns, kids!" message

tall linden
atomic sinew
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Batman approves

tall linden
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he did use guns originally, but the powers that were clamped down on it and it pretty much became a part of his character for basically every adaptation after

stuck solstice
atomic sinew
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Ah

buoyant vector
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So… what I’m thinking here…. Knuckles Season 2 Could Release next or 2 years then they’ll release the movie the right after

tall linden
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shadow and wade

stuck solstice
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Batman did kill in his original iterations, at some point he became just a 'we don't kill' type of person and ultimately that was adapted into his other characteristics to be more than an in-world 'don't kill kids!'

mild fulcrum
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Listening to BumbleKast made me realize how much of a good thing they’ll stop taking Sonic questions, cause holy shit mfers be paying for questions that are WORTHLESS

atomic sinew
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That made them bank tho

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If ppl want to use their money that way then sonicshrug

tall linden
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don't interrupt your enemies when they are making a mistake

mild fulcrum
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Mfers should better invest that money into stocks instead smh

atomic sinew
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I'm glad I got one good question in that felt relevant to the trajectory moving forward at least

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Really shouldn't have waited so long for the year to end 😭

solid bobcat
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That ernestness is what endears us

tall linden
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honestly if I could change one thing about this movie, it'd be to have gerald keep this energy for the rest of the movie after this point

kind scarab
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Is it good yea and eggman is so baffled

charred wharf
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Same here

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I liked that selfish Gerald

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I wish it was like that most of the movie ngl 😭

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Henry shhh

stuck solstice
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The movie is pretty quotable I'm surprised

strong basin
tall linden
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the dramatic camera angle here is the cherry in top

wind trout
stuck solstice
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Shadow was very funny

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mainly because his humor is very dry

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we know he means what he says, there is no sugarcoat

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but what he says comes from a very funny scenario so they nailed him

tall linden
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Gabriela should kill them both.

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She's not a prize to be won.

wind trout
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True, I think his funniest lines may be
“Revenge Guac”
“Gabriela should kill them both, she’s not a prize to be won.”
“Don’t tell me you’ve got a catchphrase”
“Try to keep up”

stuck solstice
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"I don't look like you. You look like me. Why do you look like me?!"

wind trout
stuck solstice
pale basin
worn topaz
stuck solstice
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or just Shadow jumscaring sonic, tails, knuckles and stone

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like we know he's trying to take them all four down, but he went the extra mile to be essentially an evil spirit in a horror movie

wind trout
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yea it was funny seeing him jumpscare the shit out of them

tall linden
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Boo.

stuck solstice
grim cedar
stuck solstice
grim cedar
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🙂

hard spoke
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Bro I haven’t heard anyone talk about sky sanctuary being too yellow before😭😭😭😭

stuck solstice
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jsjsjsj, the answer of the writers made me laugh a bit

kind scarab
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If they are including her just to be a love interest for sonic its all over for me

mild fulcrum
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Im sure shell do more than just being all gaga for sonic

kind scarab
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I sure hope so

mild fulcrum
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we literally saw her oneshot several metal sonics

kind scarab
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That i know, she will be the badass girl and all that

stuck solstice
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Given that SEGA is more active on the development of the movies, I doubt they go beyond 'they're in good terms with eachother'

mild fulcrum
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im just hoping at the core, she'll be a bubbly and lively person that can lock in when she needs to

kind scarab
split agate
mild fulcrum
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sega seems open for the movies to be its own thing if they did want sonic to be an alien to earth

split agate
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straight people on the copium again

kind scarab
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At least Jane sounds as crazy as me so i dont feel alone lmao

mild fulcrum
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cant expect the movies to make amy anything but straight since most moviegoers dont fw with gay people.

kind scarab
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They can make it just not anything

strong basin
atomic sinew
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Here we gooooooo

kind scarab
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Like even make amy gaga over sonic- thats fine

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Is part of her in the games

stuck solstice
kind scarab
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Thats ok

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My issue is sonic

atomic sinew
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Nah this Sonic gonna have girl issues

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This will be his arc

kind scarab
#

I hooe his girl issues is mysogeny over actuwlly having like UUUU SONIC LIKES GURL like shoot me

atomic sinew
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Leo from TMNT moment

kind scarab
#

NO

split agate
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honestly I don’t think movie sonic could swing either guys or chicks

atomic sinew
#

Or Donnie...

split agate
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quite literally the most rizzless man in existence

mild fulcrum
#

they never officially say anything about a deeper relationship between stone and robotnik. we know theres something going on but the movies have officially said stone is the only friend robotnik had

kind scarab
#

I mean friends fuck

#

shrug

stuck solstice
split agate
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lost cause of a guy

atomic sinew
#

He's the same as any other bland af male protagonist who swoons over the badass leading lady, there's no way the alternative happens

kind scarab
#

So far movie sonic has done anything but that

atomic sinew
#

Yes he is vecort

mild fulcrum
#

movie sonic is a rizzless loser

kind scarab
#

Do not suddenly make it real in 4

atomic sinew
#

Manifesting by mentioning...

stuck solstice
#

Where does that come from?

mild fulcrum
#

how old is movie sonic by now? 18 or so?

kind scarab
#

What was the earthday

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7 years?

atomic sinew
#

They mentioned that years passed in the movie but I forget what it was referencing

mild fulcrum
#

how old was baby sonic when he was at earth?

kind scarab
#

5?

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And he was on the cave for 7 years

#

But that doesnt mean the time he was on earth

feral path
#

The events of Sonic 1 take place across ten years, counting the opening sequence.

The events of Sonic 2 take place nine months after 1.

No idea as to when the events of 3 take place after 2.

kind scarab
#

Just that he was on the cave

mild fulcrum
stuck solstice
atomic sinew
#

Once the movie drops digitally we'll have the "years" line in its proper context

kind scarab
#

Sigh if i have to wait till 2027 to have a movie about sonic going gaga over a badass amy thats nothiny like how she was i might as well drop before it happens
Its like a double combo of things i do not want in this franchise

atomic sinew
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All I know is I took immediate interest in it bc it implied a passage of time between the movies

stuck solstice
#

yeah

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the time passing is more prominent in the movies

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compared to the games

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mainly by design, it cannot be otherwise

grim cedar
kind scarab
#

Shut
IT

atomic sinew
mild fulcrum
#

oh no

atomic sinew
#

The dork formula will remain unbroken

grim cedar
#

Its gonna be like, Who is this girl? She's kind of cute, Sort of thing

mild fulcrum
#

normiefying the sonic characters is the biggest ick for me

kind scarab
split agate
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lord above if they’re doing brotherhood of metallix from StC can they bring Tekno along for the ride too

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only lesbians can save movie Amy

kind scarab
split agate
#

yaoi fans have had their fun with robotnik & stone

kind scarab
#

god hear ye

split agate
#

now its yuri fans time

kind scarab
#

Also Tom and Maddie are legit such a well done couple

#

They are like actual best buddies with none of that hetnorm bs

split agate
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god that’s something I really really appreciate abt movie 1

buoyant vector
#

What if Hatsune Miku shows up in Sonic The Hedgehog 4 Movie 👀

grim cedar
#

Tom and Maddie are totally gonna try to get these two together somehow.

atomic sinew
#

This is Sonic Movies

split agate
kind scarab
#

Ok someone sounds a lil bitter shadows story wasnt how they wanted vecort

stuck solstice
atomic sinew
#

Uh huh uh huh

split agate
#

Tom and maddie are just, nice people

atomic sinew
split agate
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(I mean aside from one being a cop but still)

atomic sinew
#

I thought I said I enjoyed the movie!

kind scarab
#

You did

atomic sinew
stuck solstice
buoyant vector
kind scarab
split agate
atomic sinew
#

I made peace with all of the aspects of the movie ahead of time and tried to judge it on its own terms

#

I got something p enjoyable

stuck solstice
buoyant vector
kind scarab
#

Id hope people who write tom and maddie they way they did, like actual "bros" as Tika says, would do something better than just" LOL SONICS GROWING UP AND NOW THERE IS GIIIIIRL"

mild fulcrum
#

i refuse to compromise with the movies. will always hate we have these movies be cgi/live action and its why we can never have as much awesome hedgehog action it will be too damn expensive to make

atomic sinew
#

Babys character growth, it is destiny

nocturne falcon
#

I still stand by this ngl

kind scarab
#

Like, if my favorite sonic character be reduced to, badass without any bubbliness in her and only there so the main character can go gaga for im O U. T

atomic sinew
mild fulcrum
#

i think there will be a nice moment in 4 where tom and maddie will recount their first time meeting each other and how they figured things out over time

kind scarab
nocturne falcon
kind scarab
#

If i know movie sonic well, he would just be like "uh okay" about amy being crazy about him

mild fulcrum
#

theyre gonna tone down amys boycraziness obv

stuck solstice
#

Movie Sonic is playful and I don't think he's into girls or boys

mild fulcrum
#

maybe she wont even be boycrazy for movie sonic at all

split agate
kind scarab
stuck solstice
split agate
#

time travel movie of sonic making sure Tom & Maddie meet so they can take in sonic

mild fulcrum
#

thatll be insane

#

loooool

#

tomaddie is a canon event

grim cedar
#

He was shocked and surprised at another hedgehog like him with Shadow, So him meeting Amy wouldn't be much of a surprise this time around.

stuck solstice
atomic sinew
#

It's weird bc we just got Knuckles, but the humans in the 3rd movie felt like they were getting phased out

#

Weird inbetween where the stories are becoming more Sonic focused

split agate
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sonic CD where sonic has to make two people fall in love but not bone otherwise it ruins the timeline

kind scarab
#

If tom and maddie have a kid it will ruin the sauce

nocturne falcon
#

sonic the cuckhog

mild fulcrum
#

INSANE

atomic sinew
stuck solstice
kind scarab
#

THEIR KID IS SONIC

stuck solstice
#

😭

kind scarab
#

and tails

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and knuckles

atomic sinew
#

ALRIGHT okay that makes more sense

kind scarab
#

Like an actual baby

grim cedar
#

Sonic, Tails and Knuckles are treated like Brothers, If they added Amy along, She would be like a sister

split agate
stuck solstice
#

WHAT

true heron
#

Can't wait for sonic 4 to be seen as woke because there's amy in it

split agate
#

INSANE convos im starting in tc today can pink haired lady happen sooner pls

kind scarab
#

Please

#

WHERE IS HER

mild fulcrum
#

sonic movies are already woke because maddie and rachel exist

kind scarab
#

SEGA

split agate
#

maybe pink haired lady is Tom and maddies kid……….

mild fulcrum
#

I NEED TORI

kind scarab
atomic sinew
mild fulcrum
kind scarab
#

ITS STILL SOMETHING

mild fulcrum
#

Bruh

atomic sinew
#

Crazy how he never acknowledged Stone until it was too late bigsad

kind scarab
#

also stone is gay af lets not say he isnt

mild fulcrum
#

they never commit to it so it can go either way

kind scarab
#

He did that coffee with him and eggman hes fucking down for him

#

WHAT COMMIT

split agate
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wdym “they never commit” what was the fuckin CONFESSION LIVE-STREAMED TO LONDON

stuck solstice
#

Stone is as sutile about his interest as Smithers is for Mr. Burns

kind scarab
#

omg if stone was a woman and did that coffee with her and eggman NO ONE WOULD QUESTION IT

mild fulcrum
stuck solstice
#

The one-sided relationship

split agate
#

it may not be as equal on both sides but theyre like two movies away from bouncing on it evil style

nocturne falcon
#

from what?

stuck solstice
#

they may say he's a friend but it's clear Stone loves Eggman in a truly emotional sense

kind scarab
#

I mean, just cyz he called him a friend doesnt mean stone aint into him

mild fulcrum
#

yeah, i just wish they had the balls to just have stone say he loves robotnik.

atomic sinew
#

Bringing up sex and offspring in the movie Sonic universe is insane bc the "allows the character to grow" angle just piledrived my mind with the concept of Sonic 12 dealing with Sonic's children boruto style

kind scarab
mild fulcrum
#

Imagine if movie sonics kids are sonia and manik

kind scarab
#

I dont feel "queerbaited" or anything

mild fulcrum
#

fair enough

kind scarab
#

Its good enough for me, i enjoy

atomic sinew
#

Yeah they're not queerbaited exactly

kind scarab
#

Their relationship is extremely toxic

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Robotnik treats stone like dirt, stone loves him so he doesnt mind it

ivory grotto
kind scarab
#

Im pretty sure thats just a joke

atomic sinew
#

biggest challenge is crazy

kind scarab
#

Any seems pretty easy going

atomic sinew
#

They're going to be doing interviews abt her in the same way they did with Shadow in the pre-development huh cheemhmm

split agate
#

sonic gets his head crushed in with one swing of her now metal hammer

#

movie opens with his funeral

kind scarab
#

God

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If we go from

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We understand shadow so much he has so much pain emotional trauma

To

omg we have a woman now we can do a heteronormative plot with her cuz thats all we thought about to do with her

nocturne falcon
#

I have a thought that will definitely not age well at all

kind scarab
#

I might as well jump ship now goodbye everyone i am now a fan of Kirby

atomic sinew
#

But including Sonamy IS understanding what fans love!!! The fandom is going to go gaga over it!!!

grim cedar
#

When Sonic Movie 4 comes out, Sonamy will be the talk of the town

nocturne falcon
#

Sonic 4 overall, and also Amy's presence may inspire the 3 to go into more of a typical 'adventurer' lifestyle. Like a swap of her arc in adventure 1 in a sense

atomic sinew
#

Put it back

split agate
ivory grotto
#

they could like
have Sonic be totally oblivious to love

split agate
#

when will they put in knuckles/wade yaoi

atomic sinew
#

Sonic 06 adaption but it's Knuckles and Wade this time

#

They already did part of it they need to commit,,,

split agate
#

“my jam is MEN”

IMG_3192.jpg
mild fulcrum
#

He wants men's jam

buoyant vector
nocturne falcon
#

fuckkkk and I DON'T EVEN LIKE THAT ONEEEEE

ivory grotto
#

time for Sonic to abandon Tails, Knuckles, Tom and Maddie to go travel the world with Amy

atomic sinew
#

Sonic following Amy to be more of an adventurer would be so funny

nocturne falcon
#

"nah fuck yall, hogs before bros"

true heron
stuck solstice
wind trout
#

Henry we lost

nocturne falcon
#

This shtick is literally a core part of their dynamic

#

Hell Amy was created to be his Minnie mouse. (Which was later altered to the one sided version we know today)

mild fulcrum
#

i dont think its one sided

nocturne falcon
#

Not anymore it's not sure

#

and that's also not to say she can't be more than that, it'd be stupid if she couldn't be

#

but the point is, that is the baseline of their dynamic

grim cedar
#

I think they are gonna flesh Amy out more, We get some backstory, why she's here, and it won't be because she's in love with Sonic, So there is gotta be some major plot why she just randomly show up out of nowhere right as Metal Sonic appears

nocturne falcon
#

That is probably the case and that's fine

grim cedar
#

This particular scene could be maybe early in the 4th movie, Because this is his first time meeting her, So stuff happens early in the movie, Then we go to this scene

#

So Movie 4 has to take place moments after 3, So I don't think we are getting a time jump

#

So Movie 4 picks up right after Movie 3 ends, Where we will see the rest of the race leading up to New York

solid bobcat
undone frost
pale basin
#

Yeah I can see Amy being far more fleshed out

#

Especially with her origin

solid bobcat
#

But these movies in production do still get passed by SEGA.

#

I feel like we say this too confidently

#

because i'm positive paramount ain't stopping the production of this film completely if iizuka feels a way

undone frost
#

Idk they seem to have a lot more freedom than other sonic media

pale basin
#

Afterw ith both Knuckles and Shadow yeah

#

It helps that they are veyr different chars

#

So it's easier enough for them to have any freedom

solid bobcat
atomic sinew
#

It’s gonna pass by Sega to the same degree prime did

#

And

#

Well

solid bobcat
#

While I do think sega's imput helps, if i dunno if forwhatever cursed reason new people get put on this and they don't care, them films still getting made

#

Not to say its doom and gloom or whatever, i'm just choosing to not really have expectations on how this is going to go

atomic sinew
#

Dunno where the “they won’t want to piss fans off” angle comes from when both western productions using Amy have emphasized the relationship in a more Minnie/mickey way

solid bobcat
#

these are very different versions of the characters

pale basin
#

I can still see them add some sort of romance but at the same time

#

It depends on the direciton they are doing for it

kind scarab
#

No romance please i dont wanna leave

#

Also the fact its not one sided is so stupid so fuckin stupid the games never said it was both sided go fuck yourself sega die and burn and melt

pale basin
#

bruh

mild fulcrum
#

the games dont need to spell it out cmon

pale basin
#

But yeah after seeing the article I don't think the romance will matter if they are going to heavily focus on Amy's char

#

It'll just be small tease but affects absolutely nothing over the story

kind scarab
#

WHICH BTW

THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS SO, IN ANY OF THEM

#

ALL THERE IS ASSUMING

mild fulcrum
#

Sonic was holding out that chili dog in Black Knight for Amy bruh

undone frost
#

I don't think itll be that big of a deal if there is romance

kind scarab
#

WOW HOW DARE SONIC BE NICE TO AMY AND GIVE HER A CHILI DOG

#

IF HE DOESNT LIKE HER ROMANTICALLY HE SHOULD SPIT ON HER

mild fulcrum
#

bruh even Amy said it was a date

nocturne falcon
#

they literally go on a date in unleashed lol

mild fulcrum
#

????

nocturne falcon
#

or was it that they canonically set up one

drifting hawk
nocturne falcon
#

and then had it in black knight

undone frost
#

I don't think you should worry about some romance subplot

#

Id think they just have it like blushing and thats it

mild fulcrum
kind scarab
#

Literally Sonic accepting to go on a date with Amy doesnt mean hes romanticallt interested in her

#

Specially in how she is

nocturne falcon
#

look you're free to not like it all you want

#

but that can't change anything

kind scarab
#

I sure know that

#

Which is why it annoys the hell outta me

undone frost
#

I think its up for interpretation.

nocturne falcon
#

Hell if we wanna stretch it there's also sonic x

kind scarab
#

Cuz for decades we could have the interpretation of either

#

But now its not anymore

nocturne falcon
#

and the heavy implication in frontiers

mild fulcrum
#

Sonic X is pretty on the nose with all the Sonamy teases

pale basin
#

Yeah Sonic X is very noticeable

mild fulcrum
#

it was never that blatant in the games

kind scarab
#

Which is sonic being nice to her...

undone frost
#

people are free to interpret whether or not he's attracted to amy or not

pale basin
#

Frontiers however there are tease yes but it wasn't the sake of like say romance

#

Just more of Sonic just being kind to Amy considering her status

kind scarab
split agate
nocturne falcon
#

It's like how they tease Tangle & Whisper but never officially say shit.

kind scarab
#

Like i cant think that sonic is just nice to her cuz shes his friend, i know thar

#

I am wrong if i think as such

split agate
#

you saw the way he took the full thing in a single mouthful

mild fulcrum
kind scarab
#

And to me thats bad and ruins their whoooole dynamic for me
Even when i was a sonamy fan lol

mild fulcrum
#

my GOAT is a GENTLEMAN

kind scarab
#

Good for him, how nice to keep the chili dog for amy

#

Im glad he did that or else he would be a pos

split agate
vernal bridge
split agate
#

there’s an innuendo to be made here somewhere

mild fulcrum
atomic sinew
#

Insane thing to open the chat back up to

split agate
#

what one afternoon without a white woman reveal does to TC

kind scarab
#

sonamy literally started as sonic not wanting anything to do with her as a subversion of the trope
He aint interested, she is, he still has to save her

And then years later they just succumbed to the lame as conclusion

#

Anyways im ranting too much, as others said there is nothing i can do

atomic sinew
#

Well yes, that is what cliche writers will do

stuck solstice
#

That would imply Maekawa is a cliche writer

#

given the date of black knight

kind scarab
#

For so long it was fuckin great and now they are just the dullest will they wont they alive

atomic sinew
kind scarab
#

Cuz it came outta fucking nowhere in the 2020s
Boom made sense cuz its boom, and it works

#

But then make game do it. Come tf on

mild fulcrum
#

i mean the intent was for amy to be minnie-esque? so while Sonic in CD may not be that interested at first cause hes busy tryna save Little Planet from Eggman, he made sure AMy was ok and went off his way. but idk i think over time theres been an understated liking between the two, maybe the localization made it seem like sonics more annoyed with amy but idk i just think amy just overwhelms sonic but not in a bad way i dont think?

kind scarab
#

Well duh they are friends

stuck solstice
#

Things can change

kind scarab
#

Even in stuff like battle

stuck solstice
#

and the priorities behind the characters could switch as time went on

kind scarab
#

For better or worse yea, you are correct

mild fulcrum
#

and i mean ig nothings really changed about that dynamic between sonic and amy despite downplaying the boycraziness of amy

#

with the current direction

kind scarab
#

I mean sonic and amys interactions are insanely bland now

atomic sinew
#

Nahh

mild fulcrum
#

i mean the fff bio says sonics still her number one sooo

kind scarab
#

Well ofc

mild fulcrum
#

i dont think amy has ever really confessed to sonic either, she got close with lost world tho

kind scarab
#

Amy is not the problem ig

stuck solstice
#

I mean, even in X, Sonic and Amy were sweet with eachother in various instances

#

it's just when she becomes too overwhelming when he wishes to dip

drifting hawk
#

sorry to interrupt for a second but when is sonic 3 releasing on digital again

pale basin
#

I am not sure I do agreed with them becoming bland where outside of the chasing both of them have always tend to be kind towards each others

kind scarab
#

I just hate that sonic did nice things to her cuz hes into her after all when it could be cuz idk he wants to be nice to her once a whike despite the fangirlness

pale basin
drifting hawk
#

i can wait that long,,

pale basin
#

Join the digital only club

kind scarab
#

Idk i am just a little heartbroken forever, so whatever really lol

#

But ill be fine its just That nothing serious lol

pale basin
#

To me I am more looking forward to see how they'll handle Movie Amy

mild fulcrum
#

is it tho? you always seem to feel some type of way about it whenever sonamys mentioned?

kind scarab
#

I mean its nothing serious is just my biggest frustration with the series

#

Which i am part of so i can get a little heated ig

steep cargo
#

Finally got to see the movie.

stuck solstice
pale basin
#

Biggest thing I hope over movie amy is one thing

#

Don't be like Movie Peach

#

That's all

stuck solstice
#

Oh yeah. I want her to be energetic, flawed but compelling

kind scarab
#

They give peach an axe and she does nothing

#

She doesnt land a single hit on anything

stuck solstice
#

I'm sure they will. They handled Maria very well

#

personality wise at least

kind scarab
#

She doesnt DO anything even

stuck solstice
#

she was a little rascal

stuck solstice
pale basin
#

Didn't liked how they try to make Movie Peach some sort of a badass princess and then.....

#

Gone

#

Fucking waste of a char holy crap

undone frost
pale basin
#

I will forever hate Mario movie's writing 💀

#

But I can't hate it completely because mah goat

#

DK

hard spoke
#

luigi :(

pale basin
#

BRO I WAS HYPE FOR LUIGI MAN and then.. this

atomic sinew
#

Princess peach isn’t even bad, y’all gotta calm down

pale basin
ivory grotto
#

Amy voiced by Hailee Steinfeld
kidding

pale basin
#

Never said she is "bad" lmao

#

I just hated how she is handled

mild fulcrum
#

Steinfeld Amy is absolutely plausible

#

i can see it

undone frost
#

Princess peach was just boring to me.

pale basin
#

Steinfield doing Amy I can see honestly

kind scarab
mild fulcrum
#

doesnt she support the idf or something so its aok by paramount for sure looool

split agate
#

Peach was boring in the Mario movie cos frankly everyone was boring in the Mario movie

undone frost
#

Like keep all the interesting aspects of amy don't make her boring

atomic sinew
#

As if game peach isn’t boring vecort

kind scarab
#

Smash Peach is fun

split agate
kind scarab
#

She goes ooooo and does fun twirlies

atomic sinew
#

Smash Peach is like the one outlier

pale basin
#

Peach in Mario RPGs are absolute goated

mild fulcrum
#

Everyone talking about how Manga Peach is great as well.

undone frost
#

Well mario games weren't really into the story much

split agate
#

not a single soul gets outta that movie intact

pale basin
#

Especially with super paper mario

#

🗿

#

Peach is goated in that game

kind scarab
#

Mario Adventures Peach is literally movie peach but better in everyway

undone frost
#

the films however rely more on the story

kind scarab
#

Shes a badass and does shit

atomic sinew
#

Sure

hard spoke
#

oh yea also point towards sonic 3 for actually crediting crush 40 (although its more so a half point cause i think the lawsuit is still happening?)

pale basin
#

I believe so

kind scarab
hard spoke
pale basin
#

I'll be surprised he doesn't

split agate
kind scarab
#

Dafoe jumpscare

split agate
#

WHY DOES EVERY FF7 GIF HAVE DAFOES FACE

hard spoke
kind scarab
pale basin
#

I JUST NOTICE THAT TOO WTF!?

#

LMFAOOOOOO

split agate
kind scarab
#

Hows that for a change of pace

split agate
#

sonic 3 (2024)

kind scarab
split agate
#

love how giphy is 50% Hollywood marketing and 50% whatever this insanity is

tall linden
#

lemme find my favorite one

#

i dunno why every square game is littered with dafoe, but it's mildy entertaining

#

literally all you have to search is "square enix" and it's a fuckin gold mine lmao

#

you get more if you type in dafoe after that

kind scarab
wind trout
#

What the hell

#

😭

void stream
kind scarab
#

Oh thats why its bad

wind trout
#

It’s a part of why it’s bad

kind scarab
#

Fair enough

void stream
#

I like the ship fine enough but 😭 they literally dedicate the (original) ending to the show and the second credits sequence specifically to sonic and amy

#

amy gets the most attention out of any of Sonic’s friends

kind scarab
#

Yea and shes fucking awful

void stream
#

she’s been pretty rough in s3 so far and s2 had some bumps but I thought she was mostly fine during s1

stuck solstice
#

Yeah Amy was fine in season 1

#

season 2 had some weird moments but nothing too grave

#

season 3 is where they lost the plot entirely on her

steep cargo
stuck solstice
steep cargo
stuck solstice
undone frost
#

I feel bad for agent stone. it was just his job to him, he just really cared for him.

steep cargo
#

It was also fitting for Eggman to willingly sacrifice himself after he realizes that he needed Stone, not actual family.

stuck solstice
#

Mhm. He didn't appreciate that he already had someone with him.

What you have might be in front of you. It was very effective.

steep cargo
#

Sonic also had a arc. One that felt like Rise of Lyric tried going for.

mild fulcrum
#

they literally had the same line as rol too with knux

#

like wow

#

two separate iterations of a more western centric sonic and it plays the same subplot the same way

tall linden
steep cargo
#

And the scene where Sonic and Knuckles glared at each other. It felt like a Leonardo Vs. Raphael moment in TMNT.

tall linden
#

idris elba raph

mild fulcrum
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that moment in that movie was not only cool and tragic as well, it had consequences cause raph beat leo which weakened him to be captured by the bad guys and raph had to step up to make up for his mistakes and save his brother

tall linden
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if i had a nickel for aevery blue character voiced by ben who's butted heads with a red equivalent, I've have 3 nickels

mild fulcrum
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has Rise Leo really butt heads with Raph tho? I get maybe in the movie Raph is kinda frustrated with how unserious Leo is with being a leader but i dont think he was ever truly mad at him

wind trout
steep cargo
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In the netflix movie. They were butting heads because Leo wasn't taking his leadership role serious.

wind trout
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And he sadly got his ass whooped for it

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But then again char development

steep cargo
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Now what character development would Sonic have for Movie 4? He already seems set.

mild fulcrum
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regress him and then you build him back up

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thats how

wind trout
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No

steep cargo
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Regressing would feel like a step backwards. Or best case, a nothingburger. Unless the story focuses on someone else.

undone frost
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Well there's amy so what character developmet can they do with her

steep cargo
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That depends on what story they want. She is basically a clean slate character who most just recognize as either "The Girl Sonic" or "Sonic's Girlfriend"

stuck solstice
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What would be movie Sonic's next step be?

  • Movie 1 was not running away anymore
  • Movie 2 was waiting for the moment for him to act and be more responsible on the duty he has when this comes to be
  • Movie 3 was trusting in his heart, taking the right choice when it matters and not letting darkness change him
vernal bridge
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Thinking of stuff Sonic did wrong in Movie 3, there is teamwork issues and generally having a hard time to lock in, like when he wasted time running around london instead of going straight to the barrier hole

stuck solstice
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I think the teamwork issue can be. The wasting time can also be somewhat applied to game Sonic

nocturne falcon
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The conflict of that was resolved by the end, they kinda just have to follow up on that now

steep cargo
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Yeah, even at the start, it was hinted that Sonic had too much of a issue of getting distracted by having fun. Like he "lost" that race. And only did he focus, did he think he won.

undone frost
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So i guess movie 4 learning to deal with you're flaws

nocturne falcon
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That's a little too vague

stuck solstice
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Too vague, yeah

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It must be a specific weakness that we have to explore so it can create the next step

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and significant enough

nocturne falcon
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The real question is, does he necessarily need a next step

pale basin
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I'll say for this case it's more like learning to help others that are in need

steep cargo
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Here'a one: Sonic learning where he came from. Like Longclaw is his first adopted mother. But we never see where his real parents come from. Nor do we know why he looks like Shadow or why he has powers. Which seems to be the same as Shadow's and also Knuckles(?) So we can learn his origins and he struggles about weather he should be who he was born to be at that home planet or stay on Earth.

undone frost
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I like sonic's origins being mysterious how ever since amy is here we can have a plot where we see him interact with his kind

stuck solstice
pale basin
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You know what? I think that could work

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Essentially Sonic wanting to know his kind

vernal bridge
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A next step that leads him to be more campy cool instead of a reference chatterbox would be nice but I cannot think of a way thats not forced or a straight up change in writing

stuck solstice
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I don't think you can do that without fundamentally changing his character

nocturne falcon
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I think that's here to stay unfortunately...

steep cargo
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Like Game Sonic is a character that will never change no matter who he meets. But Movie Sonic is constantly changing for the better depending on who he meets, Tom, Tails & Knuckles, and Shadow.

nocturne falcon
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Y'know what might be cool? To take a saiyan type approach with the backstory and say Sonic was destined to be some kinda conqueror or whatever, eventually harnessing the power of the emeralds. But after Longclaw discovered these plans, essentially kidnapped Sonic and raised her as her own

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Sorta expanding on the trusting in his heart stuff, coming to the conclusion to defy destiny and hold onto the person (or hedgehog) he has become

steep cargo
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Actually Shadow is the one that stuck out to me as a sayian. The fact he was a alien sent to earth via the Black Comet. And he has no memories of his homeworld. And he has Chaos Energy in his speed screams Goku.

nocturne falcon
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Or maybe that sounds too similar to what shadow's backstory could eventually be o_o

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yeah on second thought scratch all that.

pale saffron
drifting hawk
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LMAOOOOOO

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pale basin
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💀

stuck solstice
nocturne falcon
stuck solstice
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from the getgo his different from game shadow in ways that can be very cool to explore

nocturne falcon
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He doesn't have a specific purpose off the bat, so I guess it's gonna be a matter of self discovery

pale saffron
steep cargo
stuck solstice
steep cargo
nocturne falcon
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Could all tie them in with each having a similar-ish background to each other. In the sense of being 'taken' by GUN

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Omega perhaps their attempt at reverse engineering Eggman tech to make something to counter the likes of Sonic, Shadow, etc

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Rouge (through whatever means) finding herself on earth, and fending for herself as a spy/thief, until GUN caught her and ended up using her themselves

steep cargo
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Since Shadow established that GUN has long known about aliens. It could be vice versa in that Rouge has been a double agent within GUN for a intergalactic version of GUN. Using a disguise to be human (likely using the VA as the disguise) and reveal Rouge that way.

nocturne falcon
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So by intergalactic version of GUN do you mean a wholly separate group or like, an 'intergalactic division' of GUN

charred wharf
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The rouge disguise kinda fell apart after we saw that it was tails who made that thing for Tom and Maddie

steep cargo
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It could either be a group that can be dubbed Freedom Fighters as a reference. Or yeah, a Division. Similar to the Galatic KND.

mild fulcrum
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No military group calling themselves Freedom Fighters

nocturne falcon
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Yeah not sure I'm 100% a fan

mild fulcrum
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they're never about freedom LMAOOOOO

nocturne falcon
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even if they weren't called the freedom fighters

grim cedar
mild fulcrum
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Obv

nocturne falcon
undone frost
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Probably gonna be another enemy

nocturne falcon
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Rouge gathering intel and being in the field looking out for more 'alien threats' (under threat of termination herself if she doesn't comply) and Omega being sent out to capture and eliminate them

steep cargo
drifting hawk
wicked fog
stuck solstice
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the flower field for Movie Shadow was a place he liked to be with his Maria

and a place that Game Shadow wished he could spend time with his own friend

wicked fog
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Which make more hilarious cuz Shadow voiced by Keanu Reeves

stuck solstice
charred wharf
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He looks like sonic there

pale basin
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Movie really peaked Sonic and Shadow dynamic holy fuck

wicked fog
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Sonadow

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Heh

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I like it

stuck solstice
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That moment is absolutely amazing for me

wicked fog
pale saffron
stuck solstice
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Both use a cosmic body to reflect on Shadow's resolve

ivory grotto
hard spoke
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There’s a puddle in sonic forces

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Do you know what that m…I forgot the rest of the joke I was gonna do :/

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Anyway kotaku is kinda gmgmrkrrjtntkfkfndnrrng t

drifting hawk
wind trout
lime silo
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Assuming Carrey doesn’t come back, and if Stone takes the reigns, I can kinda see him adopting Eggman’s “”dad”” aspects like right here

wicked fog
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Stone is the successor of Eggman

vernal bridge
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Time for round 2 🫡

lament bough
# stuck solstice https://fxtwitter.com/SazelWells/status/1873802944417849719/photo/1

When I saw Amy at the Sonic Movie 3 Post-Credits scene I have expected for her to be a strong woman with a slight admiration for Sonic following his adventures in the Movieverse.
But noooooo, Amy has to be the same girl she was from later on in the series, the girl who is nothing more but Sonic’s big fan girl with an insane love mentality for a 12 YEAR OLD.

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I do not care for SonAmy but I’ll be honest right here and now, I do not like the romantic aspect of Sonic and Amy

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There is a reason why it got abandoned

pale basin
lament bough
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All I can say on all of this is for the love of god please do not include SonAmy in the movies I am done with that shit

pale basin
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oh right yeah forgot about that..... age 💀

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Such a crazy idea they even do that back then lmao

lament bough
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that age gap is something people always overlook

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Like if they were both older sure but CLASSIC AMY IS 8 AND SONIC IS 15 (WITH MODERN AMY AND SONIC BEING 12 AND 16)
THAT SHIT IS A 7 YEAR AGE GAP FOR CLASSIC AND 4 FOR MODERN

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At least Movie Sonic is basically 20 years old now but Amy??? We just don’t know

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But if she’s not around Sonic’s age…

drifting hawk
pale basin
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It's way back then in the 90s I doubt people will easily remember lmao

fringe solar
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if movie sonic is 20 years old game sonic atp is 40 years old

true heron
pale basin
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........wait that's right we haven't seen the tarot cards yet lmao

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What if instead of time travel it was more so Amy found out something bad happened due to the tarot cards and she goes there immediately?

lament bough
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Actually that looks to be a good point

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Altho I would be surprised if they mixed both the time travel elements and tarot cards stuff in Movie 4/spin-off show

pale basin
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For sure, but I’ll say it’s another possibility considering the tarot cards are now relevant

reef skiff
vernal bridge
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It made me realize thar they really need to update Sonic's model

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Unlike Shadow, he still looks kind of uncanny in many shots

fringe solar
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i thinkt hey update his model every movie

vernal bridge
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Also that moment when Knux throws Tails to save Sonic reminded me a lot of a Fastball Special

fringe solar
vernal bridge
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Oh I imagine

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I meant to work harder in the next movie model

fringe solar
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i think they need completely redesign him tbf

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like with tails,knuckles and shadow you can clearly see they make their best for them to look game accurate as possible

atomic sinew
fringe solar
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but sonic is still suffer from issues when they tried to fit him in live action

fringe solar
fringe solar
vernal bridge
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I still wonder why Sonic depowered after pushing the laser. Was it because
A- Super actually has a time limit like the games, and because he transformed earlier than Shadow he depowered earlier too?
Or
B- Shadow is simply stronger

wicked fog
lament bough
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Who asked you to be here

grim cedar
solid bobcat
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Yeah despite some people's uh..."excitement" at ages supposedly being removed. These are mostly teens in all mediums and portrayed as such. Especially the movie version who has always felt like a goofy teenager.

Not to say 20 year olds cant be goofy, I certainly was. But he does not feel 20 in that film

grim cedar
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As the movie ages, So do the audience that watch them, So they are growing with the characters, Which is why they age them up as it goes along

strong basin
pale basin
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.........welp!

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After all of this fucking convo over sonamy

snow glacier
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this guy's never locking in

pale basin
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Still makes me hope they do Chaos as a true test to Movie Sonic being a hero

solid bobcat
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I feel like in a lot of adventure era games sonic was kijda just experiencing things while thr stories largely centered around other people's

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I know thos would upset ppl but i think chaos should be more about knuckles

pale basin
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Oh obviously

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Wasn't saying mainly about Sonic. Just more of him about char

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Plus movie Knuckles is FAR more involved compared to games Knuckles so they can easily capatalize that

solid bobcat
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I just feel like knuckles lore wise in the games got a rsw deal

pale basin
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As a way of showing of how much Movie Knuckles means to Movie Sonic

solid bobcat
pale basin
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To develop more of their dynamic

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exactly

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This will be a perfect way to show how much they care

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Sonic getting to know more about Knuckles past and doing whatever it takes to help him

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While knowing the truth about Longclaw since she was involved

strong basin
vernal bridge
pale basin
reef skiff
reef skiff
grim cedar
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We'll have an Amy who is independent, strong and vary capable of handling certain situations, in the case of that post credit scene

strong basin
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Anyone have the super fight and moon scene?

stuck solstice
strong basin
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Thx

grim cedar
wicked fog
wicked fog
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I expected was Biolizard and then, fucking GUN mecha. Worth it

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Also - reminded me of Shadow pushing the Eclipse Cannon from the Earth is like Char and Amuro pushing the comet in Char's counterattack

pale basin
hybrid aspen
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not them placing the deadly six over the babylon rouges ungh

pale basin
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moment i see Chaos in 10th I knew it was over worrykms

hybrid aspen
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Sonic Lost World's Deadly Six team is one of the more memorable groups of villains to be introduced in the modern Sonic the Hedgehog games bro what

pale basin
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Also why the fuck Silver is even there!? ICANT

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Titans

wicked fog
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*Shadow the Hedgehog's future in the Sonic the Hedgehog movies is uncertain, as it isn't known if Keanu Reeves will return as a supporting character in a fourth film or possibly in his own spinoff film. However, making Shadow a secondary protagonist alongside Sonic in Sonic the Hedgehog 4 would be a smart way to give the character the spotlight he deserves, and the best way to do this would be by making Black Doom the main villain.

Black Doom is the alien leader of the Black Arms army as well as being one of the creators of Shadow the Hedgehog, with him having given Gerald his blood in order to complete the project. When Black Doom led the Black Arms to later conquer Earth, however, Shadow the Hedgehog rebelled, with him realizing that he has to fight off the alien army in order to save the planet.*

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