[SPOILERS] Sonic Movie 3

[pale basin]

-> gerald vs eggman
-> entire super sonic & shadow scene till the moon shot
-> eggman defeats gerald

brooooooo rose gold is so perfect!

[nocturne falcon]

hard to explain but picture the most epic or climactic battle in whatever you've seen.

[pale basin]

This is the best way to make super shadow standout without looking too jarring

[pale basin]

he looks super good

like now

Plus the colors blends in perfectly

[stuck solstice]

They nailed it. No notes there.

[nocturne falcon]

then imagine it suddenly cuts to 'hahah funne spanking'. Sure some people will go hahah anyway but cmon.

[pale basin]

when i will want to watch the scene

Having both the gold aura and the "pinkish" aura works so well

i'll have to watch the spanking bits

smh

[nocturne falcon]

Climax of not just the movie but the trilogy

[weary crystal]

Guys

https://fxtwitter.com/moviewalker_prs/status/1871488539134927017/en has this been posted?

[stuck solstice]

Also I'll be honest

The dynamic of team Sonic is so good

[pale basin]

i hate the current trend of puting funny bits in the climax

i swear it sucks

[stuck solstice]

like sonic, tails and knuckles worked so well together

[pale basin]

or like always try to counterbalance tones

[weary crystal]

https://moviewalker.jp/news/article/1234459/?cms=tw

[stuck solstice]

Nop

the new manga?

[weary crystal]

Looks a preview

[stuck solstice]

Tails was an MVP in this movie, what a goat

[pale basin]

Tails and Knuckles were cool

Especially Knuckles imo

[pale basin]

And it's deserved

I will always love Team Sonic to this day, but they have barely utilized it for years

until Sonic Movie happened and it's worth it

[stuck solstice]

Mhm. The trio was so well utilized here

[pale basin]

you're wrong

sonic team wasn't in the movie

together

because amy wasn't here..

bro be quiet

[stuck solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[pale basin]

Like dude I am tired man

Let me talk

But nah this is legit well earned to finally see Team Sonic actually developed

[snow glacier]

next time

i do appreciate the decision to defer amy to another movie though

give her some time to shine

[stuck solstice]

and yeah, for Latam, Shadow is NEVER beating the Vegeta allegations

[pale basin]

Makes me looking forward to even more with Amy's interaction to Team Sonic to feel more like a full team

Agreed

[stuck solstice]

a DB-like fight in the climax with Super Shadow and voiced by René Garcia who does Vegeta? Yeah good luck trying to get rid of the allegations 😭

[pale basin]

To me Amy isn't part of Team Sonic...

That's not the point I am making man

Team Sonic is always Sonic/Tails/Knuckles

[stuck solstice]

It'll be fun to see how she balances out of Sonic, Tails and Knuckles. What can she add to the team in the movies?

[pale basin]

If they are going to include a 4th member it'll always be Amy if not she already has enough to have her own team

[kind scarab]

Didnt the interview say shes not gonna be a 4th member

Lol

[pale basin]

Pretty sure she isn't

[stuck solstice]

I haven't read it lol

[kind scarab]

Yea they basically said they want to do something different with her

[pale basin]

But yeah what I meant is Amy going to interact with Sonic, Tails, and Knuckes. Tails I can at least see be like a little brother to Amy while Knuckles being a powerhouse duo to Amy. Sonic tho I can see Amy being impressed over current Sonic

Not in a way of like "Oh hey Amy is now part of Team Sonic" shtick

[pale basin]

I prefer her having her own team

[pale basin]

Oh okay

That's what I am saying??????

I never once mention Amy being part of Team Sonic

💀

[stuck solstice]

I am curious on Shadow

the new origins they gave to him are certainly very interesting

[pale basin]

Shadow tho I am legit looking forward to. But also helps he is very easy enough to stand out

Especially getting his own team

[stuck solstice]

Yeah. He and Maria were so cute

I adored their little friendship created out of sheer chance

It felt very Lilo & stitch coded

“The light shines even when the star is gone”

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[snow glacier]

my favourite scene in the movie has got to be the first one with the shadow flashbacks

emotional impact like no other lol

[pale basin]

Too bad I'll still have to wait till digital

[snow glacier]

final climax doesn't really come close

[stuck solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[tall linden]

hearing maria playing live and learn stirred something inside me

[snow glacier]

exactly!!!

took me a couple seconds to realise she was playing the riff though

going to a fanscreening was pretty fun though

[tall linden]

i got to go to an early screening on the 17 and then I saw it again on the 17th and it was peak both times

and I'm planning to go for round 3 tomorrow

[stuck solstice]

Have fun

I only could do it once (I'm getting sick anyway so not planning for another round)

but I had a blast with it from beginning to end

[pale basin]

i agree with you

that's what i meant

crazy how gerald had one of the most morbid, dark deaths in the game universe

[snow glacier]

and then its reduced to

[pale basin]

Real talk I legit love that we get to see the goofy side of Gerald

[snow glacier]

because its jim twice lol

[pale basin]

oops my message didn't send

[tall linden]

I also agree

but also

[pale basin]

Like before maria's death I always thought he is such a humble doctor who tends to go crazy with his work

[stuck solstice]

It was very fun.

The death of Gerald was so out of pocket but I cannot truly hate it 😭

[tall linden]

I think gerald should've dropped the goofy act after he went against ivo

[pale basin]

Having this chance to get to meet Eggman while insane just works because it's a good parallel b etween eggman and maria

I do admit I can understand that

Jim Carrey kills it as Eggman

[tall linden]

the movie had moments where the mask slipped that were really good, but never got a proper payoff, I feel

[pale basin]

Not a fan of people saying he was a bad casting

[stuck solstice]

Yeah I can understand it too

[pale basin]

Gerald being goofy works (mad scientist)

And in the games he’s literally called that

[tall linden]

I also think the movie would've benefited from showing us more of gerald in the past before he pretty much went insane

[pale basin]

He was shoehorned in

[tall linden]

show us more of the utter contempt he developed for humanity

[pale basin]

Exactly like I would love to see how Gerald behaves before maria's death

[stuck solstice]

Stone was so sad

[pale basin]

Stone 😔

Gerald not creating Shadow was sorta dumb

But makes sense given the Black Arms are coming

[tall linden]

eh I'm fine with it here

[pale basin]

I feel like it just works due to black arms honestly

[tall linden]

especially considering they're all aliens in this continuity so it's fine, I feel

[pale basin]

The design of the meteorite screamed Black Arms

[stuck solstice]

It works as a way to introduce the black arms in a relatively more natural way compared to the games

[tall linden]

nah that was 100% based on the black comet you can't convince me otherwise

[stuck solstice]

Yeah I am sure it was based on the black comet

plus it makes shadow stand out more

because it implies that sonic, tails, knuckles and Amy are 'conventional' life forms

while he is another type of entity

[pale basin]

Yeah that already confirms Black arms are part of movie universe

And if they got to appear it has to be mainly Shadow alone

[tall linden]

that thing was straight up just this

[pale basin]

Yeah it's nearly the exact same design

[stuck solstice]

Shadow doesn't know his origin home

so there is a great opportunity to explore him through that

[tall linden]

memories broken
the truth goes unspoken
I've even forgetten my name

[pale basin]

Yeah we are for sure getting movie black doom. It only comes down to Shadow alone

[stuck solstice]

Mhm. Maybe in a movie for Shadow alone

or series, whichever thinks will do for a better story

https://fxtwitter.com/GenePark/status/1872038969959153789

[strong basin]

Oh that’s… that’s gore of Gerald

[strong basin]

https://fixupx.com/railzfeverz/status/1871547280601612376?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[wind trout]

OMFG sonic 3 was a documentary

[solid bobcat]

It would be better to ask sonic team themselves. Its funny, eggman always worked well narratively with assistants, but they always betray him or die. But sonic team is never the ones to give him one, i wonder how they feel about the idea

[nocturne falcon]

It would be nice to have a longstanding one for once

Hell it'd be nice to have any other longstanding antagonists that aren't eggman (better yet that have no relation to him.)

[pale basin]

I will say this immediately when it comes to sonic villains

We have such horrible amount, and eggman currently has poor variety

[nocturne falcon]

Most are one offs or turn good

[pale basin]

Yeah the series just has a miserable keeping non eggman related villains actually recurring

And only time we ever had are the fucking Deadly Six lmao

[peak grail]

Agent Stone as a game character would go so hard.

[pale basin]

He deserved it so much

Agent Stone is such an incredible lackey

Especially with how barebone the villain lineup we have in sonic series

Seeing that IDW artwork over the hero vs. villain comparison makes me go like

"......man"

[grim cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7WyT297TuA

[peak grail]

I just realised why Knuckles is afraid of ghosts in the movie.

[grim cedar]

Its a reference to the games, in which he's afraid of the supernatural

But, He wasn't afraid when the ghost of Pachacamac showed up for him in the show

[peak grail]

Yeah, but also King Boom Boo.

The movie references other SA2 things in a clever way.

[solid bobcat]

We need more reoccuring competent bad people who hate different people specifically

[pale basin]

Agreed

[solid bobcat]

Who's bright idea was it to eliminate seeming all of them in blazes world

[peak grail]

So...

How exactly do they plan on reintroducing Shadow?

[solid bobcat]

Hes weird now

They have to a degree removed one of the factors that makes shadow appealing, his focused nature and animosity that ends up making him antagonistic. I do not think film shadow has that in him. So what ever reintroduction is going to have to nurture that, or make him go through something horrifying to harden him up

I dont think they could just "do amnesia" again, game audiences barely accepted that, i cant imagine film audiences will

[kind scarab]

Just make him like 06 shadow idk

[solid bobcat]

So whatever introduction needs to firmly establish who he is going forward

[kind scarab]

Let him have a found family in team dark and stuff

[solid bobcat]

For 06 shadow to have meaning
Sa2 shadow needs to happen

[kind scarab]

And let him be just how he is, kinda edgy and moody

[solid bobcat]

That did nlt happen

[solid bobcat]

Thats lame

[kind scarab]

But not to the point of antagonistm

[solid bobcat]

Like if they are gonna go about him being a different guy, commit to the bit

[peak grail]

It would be very weird to kill him off from the perspective of Sonic and everybody else, and then have him casually reveal he's just alive next movie.

Maybe... a Shadow show.

[solid bobcat]

It would be funny though

[kind scarab]

Shadow show yea

[solid bobcat]

He just showsvup

"I walked it off"

[split agate]

Shadow show or movie would be my guess, yea - leaning towards a movie cos I don’t think P+ is gonna last long lol

[peak grail]

He'll meet his weird alien father and maybe encounter Omega.

[grim cedar]

a Shadow show that would have Shadow searching about his origin, and the Black Arms

[peak grail]

I don't know how they could ever introduce Rouge at this point.

[solid bobcat]

I would prefer he be cool by himself and get comfortable with himself because his yearning for some kindvof connection led him astray!

I think this shadow needs to have the exact opposite arc his game one had or seemingly has

Shadow needs to learn to be ok with being alone

Then he can find people

But he gotta find himself first

[grim cedar]

Have Rouge sneak into Wade's house to steal the Master Emerald

[peak grail]

Oh god.

Rouge and Wade interaction.

[solid bobcat]

He been a puppet, but unlike game shadow who just develops a strong sense of self naturally this one does not have it

[split agate]

shadow’s in a weird place cos like, he’s had closure over his past but he’s still in an unclear position re:his future, like how sonic was in movie 1, homeless and alone while watching the world go by

[solid bobcat]

He gotta find out who shadow is,

And im assuming it starts at that comet...or breaking into a gun base to find information about yhe comet and that's where rouge might be?

[peak grail]

I mean, well, not really I guess.

There's like a whole galaxy worth of alien planets.

[solid bobcat]

Well

Theres another option

[grim cedar]

Yeah, There's even a casino planet according to the prequel comic

[solid bobcat]

A nuclear option

[peak grail]

I feel like Rogue would be the kind of character to come over to Earth herself to steal something.

She finds out the Master Emerald or something exists and she wants it.

[solid bobcat]

What if they just introduce new characters

[solid bobcat]

Maybe

[grim cedar]

She could be recruited by GUN to steal some artifact.

[solid bobcat]

I can see it

[grim cedar]

GUN has some rogue agents with ulterior motives, We saw that in Knuckles, and in Sonic 3

I could see maybe Captain Rockwell getting Rouge involve

[peak grail]

I guess one of these agents might be crazy enough to try and recruit a space alien.

[grim cedar]

Captain Rockwell

[split agate]

I’d be down for them giving Capt Rockwell something, anything to do in a shadow spinoff

she really is just completely wasted in 3

[kind scarab]

I think she could actually be like

Well done in a shadow spinoff

Cuz she is like still that kind of antagonist force where she doesnt trust aliens and shadows insecurities

[peak grail]

You know, she could definitely be an antagonist in a Shadow spin-off.

But... you already do have Black Doom.

[kind scarab]

Do we tho

Idk i kinda dont want Black Doom lmao

I think Black doom even if like

Its from the games

Is such a dumb concept

If anything

[peak grail]

He came from a black comet. It's more than obvious what they want to do.

[kind scarab]

If shadow is a an organic hedgehog this time

[peak grail]

Movie Shadow really is more like an alien compared to game Shadow.

[kind scarab]

He probably comes from a place of evil hedgehogs

Lmao

[grim cedar]

Something happen prior to 50 years ago that sent Shadow into that comet, There's a story to be told about that somehow

[feral osprey]

No everyone in my theater cracked up

[grim cedar]

Something happened to him that caused his memories to be wiped

[feral osprey]

Some of the jokes had me straight-up cackling I was so giddy during this shit

Like I already knew about the Robotnik duet dance but when it happened I just lost it lmao, it’s so absurd (in a good way)

[stuck solstice]

My theater was laughing at the Tom puppet thing too

[solid bobcat]

i'm genuinely curious how they pull this off

because im imaging they pull from 06 and x gens where his explicityly a freaky ass alien

obviously they don't have to explain everything, but at least in the games gerald made him a hedgehog but here he's just a guy so like do hedgehogs just grow wings where he's from?

[stuck solstice]

No idea

But that's the exciting part

Just like Knuckles has the Flames of Disaster

Shadow can have something unique for the world of the movies

Be either an adaptation of the doom powers or something completely different

His more simpler origin in the movies has opportunities that Game Shadow does not have to the same extent

[peak grail]

That's true.

Either way, they're definitely going to play into the whole alien aspect of him.

[ember pelican]

Exactly.

[true heron]

Who

[worn topaz]

big king

[peak grail]

Big king

[stuck solstice]

Mhm. I'm sure they will do something that makes him stand out from Sonic, Tails and Knuckles

More than he already has, at least

Like Sonic and Knuckles both came from the same world ever since babies

But Shadow just suddenly appears in a black meteor

something that doesn't align with the trio by any means

So while shadow looks akin to them, he may be another type of alien entirely

[peak grail]

I'm really wondering how they'll handle it.

It all makes sense in the game universe, but with how the movie universe is different I'm not sure what to expect.

[stuck solstice]

Mhn. The movie universe isn't afraid of going wild with the changes they do to the source material

case in point: The flames of disaster and Iblis

Like Iblis just being a monster that Knuckles defeated at some point and got it's power is a wildly different card with respect to 06

[peak grail]

I genuinely hope that one day we could see more of it without puppets.

Knuckles' backstory with Iblis is really sick.

[stuck solstice]

Hopefully one day

also Pachacamac being more laidback than in the games

https://tenor.com/view/paramount-special-knuckles2024-knucklesshow-pachacamac-knuckles-gif-14051606091462051050

[grim cedar]

Which is why they take the source material, and do there own spin on it, And it doesn't have to be exactly to the game's canon

[stuck solstice]

Yeah. It's fun to see what they can do with the source material and spin it on it's head to give us something unique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=630ssQ72pyA

I like this analysis on Sonic Movie 2 for example

[drifting hawk]

Probably a sky is blue take, but it definitely feels like casuals like these movies a lot more than Sonic fans, especially with 3 imo

Seeing a lot of reviewers going “the PERFECT sonic movie” while Sonic fans would probably wince at that title

[stuck solstice]

Yeah

[drifting hawk]

Like even when it comes to what the focus on

It’s less like “man seeing them punch the shit out of each other in their super forms was AWESOME” and more like “lmao two jim carreys, knuckles is funny, pop culture”

Yk for as much as we shit on pop culture jokes in these movies there definitely seems like an audience for them

But ALSO if jim carrey is not in 4, like if he decided he’s actually done this time, I wonder how that’d effect casual and critical reception since he’s a big driving force for them it seems

[kind scarab]

There is DEFINTELY an audience for the pop culture references

People laughed HARD at the beatles reference

[feral osprey]

“I told him to get rid of you” caught me off guard it’s not the kind of joke I expected to hear for some reason, I can’t explain it

[stuck solstice]

The konnichiwhat thing was the only joke that my theater was indifferent

everything else, specially the Ivo and Gerald, was consistently getting laughs out of the people

[stuck solstice]

they didn't laugh but didn't growl or anything. Just it happened

[peak grail]

I didn't even understand what made him say "konnichiwhat", ngl.

That part just skimmed over in my brain.

[stuck solstice]

He just says it once Stone appears in the motorcycle

[kind scarab]

Its the worst joke of the movie cuz not even kids get it

[peak grail]

I still don't get it.

[drifting hawk]

eggman trauma dumping got a laugh out of my theater

[stuck solstice]

"Gabriella should kill both of them"

That got a huge laugh out of my theater

[drifting hawk]

Again, I’ll say this

Saw some reviews saying this was the least funny movie, but I found it funnier than 2 lol

[stuck solstice]

Revenge guac

[peak grail]

This was by far the funniest movie.

[drifting hawk]

Funniest idk

[grim cedar]

Oh I remember that, He also says, She's not a prize to be won. I guess is the reference he likes Latinas

[drifting hawk]

1 is still a contender

[peak grail]

Especially with Jim Carrey playing double the roles.

[stuck solstice]

That was hilarious. Shadow was so invested in this TV novel for no reason JSJSJS

[peak grail]

Eggman and Gerald are kinda awesome.

[worn topaz]

I don't think I laughed much at 1 or 2

3 got a lot more chuckles (or reactions in general) from me

[drifting hawk]

But then again a lot of the first movie is like, heavily quotable among my friend group

Maybe that’s factoring into it for me

[peak grail]

Every time one of you post that Gerald dying gif, it's funny.

[worn topaz]

IT IS!

Peak comedy

[stuck solstice]

The way he dies is hilarious, my theater was just dying of laugher

[drifting hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-3-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-the-hedgehog-3-sonic-movie-sonic-movie-3-gif-7279210136152303251

tone whiplash this and that and all

[lime silo]

for someone so angry at the world, obsessed with revenge, it's nice to know he has little cracks invested in small things like guac and telenovelas

they're for hyucks, but also gives a lil insight into how Shadow could've been turned out had tragedy not befall him

[drifting hawk]

I’d be lying if I said this didn’t get the biggest laugh out of the theater

and me

[stuck solstice]

and a bit with horror movies

he literally jumpscared sonic, tails, knuckles and stone in very effective ways

bro was so extra there for no reason

[kind scarab]

The thought i had was

"NOW its sa2"

[stuck solstice]

"BREAK IN CASE OF EMERGENCIES!"

[lime silo]

given he's technically the creation of a eldritch horror alien from hell, I imagine being spooky is genetic

[drifting hawk]

speaking of revenge

[stuck solstice]

Guac

[grim cedar]

The joke with Wade guarding the Master Emerald is a big payoff, If you watched Knuckles.

[drifting hawk]

Sonic going super form solely to kill shadow

Is kind of frightening 😭

[stuck solstice]

That was truly shocking for me to see.

[drifting hawk]

I mean idk if it was shocking

[stuck solstice]

I say for me >:v

[drifting hawk]

But it was very well executed

Ben did a good job there for sure

[peak grail]

One thing I like about movie Sonic is that he's not afraid to get mad.

[drifting hawk]

True

[stuck solstice]

Bro will go for the kill if he has a chance

[feral osprey]

When Shadow points at his chest and that reminds Sonic of Tom telling him to stay true to himself… I really liked that moment

[drifting hawk]

Mann

[peak grail]

Sonic and Shadow being filled with hatred for one another is raw.

[lime silo]

it's something I talked to my friend who hasn't seen the movie but knows the basic beats of SA2's plot

that, they found a way to adapt those core elements you'd expect, but provided different contexts to spice things along and keep you guessing til you see the movie

[stuck solstice]

Shadow's change of heart and his conversation with Sonic was so well done, I loved it

[lime silo]

like, Sonic going Super for the sake of revenge is kinda hardcore ngl

and Shadow going Super for the first time, not out ot redeeming himself and saving the world, but to fight back, also goes hard

[drifting hawk]

If the jim shenanigans was toned down just a wee bit near the end, this movie would honestly have almost no caveats (for the type of film it is)

Because I really dig almost everything else

[drifting hawk]

Or at least shift the order so there isn’t a jarring cut back and forth between the two fights

[feral osprey]

I think this movie had very strong theming, like the whole “choices” thing is pretty much always there

[stuck solstice]

It makes their team-up far more effective when they resonate with eachother

[feral osprey]

even little throwaway lines, like Maddie saying “make good choices” as she and Tom are sending them off

[drifting hawk]

Like these films are definitely juvenile a lot of the time but idk, I feel like if you call this one purely kiddy baby shit i feel like you aren’t paying attention

[feral osprey]

also I like how when Shadow is holding Maria’s body his silhouette is almost identical to Sonic’s

It’s not even like that in the trailers they went in and tweaked the shot

[stuck solstice]

Even Tom saying like 'knowing you, you'll take some bad choices but when the moment calls, I know you'll take the right one'

It felt powerful

[drifting hawk]

Oh that’s cool

FUCK can this release digitally already

I wanna watch it again

[grim cedar]

So what do you think is the line of this movie, The one line that pretty much the line of this very movie movie that many will repeat.

[drifting hawk]

Oh yeah

You guys

We’re talking about wade yesterday

[feral osprey]

“Wade Whipple is the champion agaaain!”

[lime silo]

even with kids in mind, this one is at the very least challenging them

I think it makes for a good balance of giving them something to think about while at least giving them a fun time,
at least not being overly goofy and hand-holding like most family films would've done it

[grim cedar]

nope

[drifting hawk]

I was watching the angry joe review and they said they wanted to dock a point just because of him 😭

[stuck solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/wade-whipple-the-flames-of-disaster-knuckles-show-gif-4892926306450018057

[grim cedar]

Nope

[feral osprey]

I don’t know who Angry Joe is but he can go fuck himself Wade Haters will NOT be tolerated

[drifting hawk]

Because tbh liking wade for the meme (or genuinely ig?) or hating wade

It makes that joke

x100 funnier

[grim cedar]

I think "Revenge Guac!" is the line

because that came out of left field

[stuck solstice]

Yeah it was very funny how Wade appeared here

[grim cedar]

He probably got the Master Emerald back when it was all over.

[feral osprey]

If you mean like serious lines I’m thinking maybe whatever Sonic says before he teams up with Shadow to go Super (can’t remember word for word rn though)

[stuck solstice]

Yeah. I liked how they used the master emerald here

[lime silo]

given the last time they had it, they literally put it in a cooler, and Knuckles gave it to the goofiest person in town, I imagine they hide it somewhere else, but someplace just as mundane

[stuck solstice]

the whole 'last resource' thing made it feel far more significant

[peak grail]

Knuckles is kind of smart for leaving it with Wade, actually. Nobody would think he'd just have a whole emerald capable of unleashing chaos.

[feral osprey]

I hope Fowler explains the whole deal with the Emeralds

[stuck solstice]

The yuxtaposition of the master emerald being a last resource and given to the goofiest person ever is hilarious

[peak grail]

But Sonic convinced him to tell where it was.

[grim cedar]

Others lines like, Who did what to whom?

[feral osprey]

like it’s kinda weird how they seem to be back in the ME but maybe it actually was just summoning them

[grim cedar]

Also 4th wall breaking "The resemblance is uncanny, Is if, We were two characters in the movie, being played by the same actor"

[kind scarab]

I thought sonic would beat the shit outta wade

[lime silo]

"One more thing I learned is when you really screw something up, you can't fix it on your own."

[peak grail]

If Sonic didn't have protagonist plot armour, he'd be done for.

[lime silo]

clever plan tbh

no one would suspect Wade

[drifting hawk]

probably would’ve gotten a cheer

[lime silo]

speaking of the ME, I dunno why, but even though them going Super was the obvious thing, the Chaos Emeralds returning never crossed my mind, since I legit thought Sonic sepearated them in the last film

but I guess he just sent them back into the ME

[grim cedar]

Which is why watching the Knuckles show was the payoff, If nobody watched that series, and see Wade randomly come on, They wouldn't get the joke

[stuck solstice]

Yeah. in movie 2 they leave sonic's body but they never show them 'spreading' like in the games

[peak grail]

I wonder how they would top the Super scenes in movie 4...

[stuck solstice]

So in this world, the chaos emeralds seem to return to/become one with the master emerald after their use

And Knuckles fixes the master emerald for it to be used again

[lime silo]

makes sense I suppose :0c

[grim cedar]

You know, Given how they adapted SA2, There were was one thing I was expecting, But they didn't bring it in this movie, Tails riding his Mech

The mech version of the tornado

[peak grail]

I was expecting a Chaos Control scene, but I don't remember it ever happening.

[stuck solstice]

This only applies if the user willingly stops being super (like in movie 2) or after exhaustion (both sonic and shadow at the end of this)

If the user is punched out of the super form, this doesn't come to be

[lime silo]

I'm guessing they couldn't find a good spot to put it in without needing to explain much about it

even then, the scenes at best never called for a mech, at least imo, so its absence wasn't much of a bother

[lime silo]

it's essentially like letting the battery dry or flicking the switch

then one scenario, you bring an ax to cut the power and it's just a mess by comparison

[feral osprey]

Yeah!

[stuck solstice]

Mhm

[hybrid mirage]

The joke entirely works even if you didn't waste time watching Knuckles and don't have "the context" . Knuckles gave the most powerful mcguffin to a total loser incapable of doing his job. It's a bait and switch line

[stuck solstice]

Something about Wade and Knuckles both having their Jammerz in spotify is so heart warming

[solid bobcat]

I like "new hedgehog " more than faker

[stuck solstice]

In Latin Spanish they adapted it to 'erizo copión'

it means something akin to 'copycat hedgehog'

[solid bobcat]

Oh interesting

I wonder what it is in other languages

[stuck solstice]

I am interested in that too.

[grim cedar]

The Prison Island scene dubbed for Japan. https://fixupx.com/SonicOfficialJP/status/1872273660331073934/en

[vernal bridge]

Finally had some time to post my thoughts on the movie

First of all Awesome. Def gotta watch it again soon

They def did their best to adapt SA2 to the movie verse

Also because I was partially spoiled about all the complains the Eggmen tonal whipslah didn't hit me as hard luckily

Really didn't expect how anything from the GUN base assault onward happened

Also the thing I was surprised the most was definitely the mech army in the Eclypse Cannon

It really bothered me how the SXSG movie level had GUN Robots as enemies despite them not being a thing in the movies so imagine the irony

Btw, a kid behind me went "Woah, Metal Sonic!" at the post credits which warmed my heart

Also another kid went with a giant Sonic plush lol

[peak grail]

I saw some kids with big plushies as well.

[grim cedar]

I been watching audience reaction videos of the post credit scenes, and I was watching one that was in spanish

[kind scarab]

Various kids with big plushies in here

[stuck solstice]

various kids with plushies, shirt, a couple were acting as sonic and shadow

[vernal bridge]

Also I have yet to watch a camrip but I noticed that you could see Amy's boots

They looked like normal, featurless leather boots to me

So I wonder if she will pull a movie Sonic and get her game dress from Earth

[grim cedar]

I bet Maddie will provide Amy with some dress, Because she too wears pink

[stuck solstice]

It would be cute

[grim cedar]

Like, I could see Maddie going throgh her closet searching for an old dress she used to wear as a kid

[kind scarab]

Yea it seems amys boots are pretty basic

[wind trout]

I was trying to find a Shadow and Sonic plush in Walmart but the kids took them all😭

[grim cedar]

in 2027, Expect Plushes for Amy and Metal Sonic to fly off the shelves.

[stuck solstice]

Either they plan to give her the outfit we know in movie 4

or it is just a preliminar thing until they can commit to a design they are happy with

Either way, we will get her outfit in movie 4

[pale basin]

Maddie legit will be perfect to interact with amy

[vernal bridge]

Another thing, I expected Amy to be cute but as in, literally Movie 1 Sonic face with bigger eyelashes

[stuck solstice]

https://fxtwitter.com/MationMiss/status/1872374646458458546

[vernal bridge]

But what we got feels like the yassified version of that(complimentary)

[stuck solstice]

Yeah she looks very good

[pale basin]

Did they change her eye color in that gif, or is that just a poor recording?

[kind scarab]

Ill say that despite my fears of

Many people wish for

So far i feel the movies and Tyson did a great job for me to not fear that much

Like yea amy will be cool and badass

But they might still make it work

Shes not Blaze the Cat

From what qe see

She seems outgoing at least

From her little smirk

Like she seems cute and outgoing and confident

.... which is very amy tbh

Her little head tilt and stuff

I trust tyson to keep amy correctly

Evem if shes not into sonic at least she can be pasisonate and loving in general

Movie Sonic doesnt seem the type to be on that kind of dumb romantic sideplot

[vernal bridge]

I have been thinking about it and, considering movie Sonic is most normal teenager as teenager Sonic we ever had, Im not fully against this Sonic being visibly in love

[lime silo]

It’s honestly funny to see his name in a producer credit

From a goofy ass parody comic to producing legit adaptations, all from the same series

[kind scarab]

I . Am.

Literally every Teenager story goes to Omg there is the love interest bit

can we Not

[stuck solstice]

ALL OF ME

[vernal bridge]

Like, it does not have to be a main plot point

[kind scarab]

NO

[vernal bridge]

Or even a subplot

[kind scarab]

just NO

No to it in general, i refuse.

[vernal bridge]

But some slight shyness and obvious tension would be alright

For me at least ofc

[stuck solstice]

😭

[kind scarab]

If anything i imagine movie sonic being extremely neutral to her

[lime silo]

If there HAD to be a romantic plot, at least do it that would fit in the Sonic style if that makes sense

Have some fun, make it adventurous, you don’t have to make it the usual kind of fluff, y’know?

[pale basin]

I've got a bet going on with a friend about who's gonna crush on who first

[kind scarab]

Even if she was into him all i expect from him is to be like "i appreciate the sentiment but i need personal space"

[kind scarab]

Oh god hopefully you all lose

[vernal bridge]

😭

[kind scarab]

Man, this is EXACTLY WHAT I DONT WANT FFS

INTRODUCE AMY AND YOU INTRODUCE STUPID DUMB STUPID ROMANCE INTO THIS SJIT CUZ THERE IS A PINK GIRL HEDGEHOG

NO

Thank

YOU

[stuck solstice]

I mean

literally her entire thing is love

:v

[kind scarab]

they can make it not be the case

She can be passionate and loving without a romance

[pale basin]

Removing romance entirely from her character makes no sense 😭 they just got a remember she's more than her ship with Sonic (which going by her already throwing the hammer around and beefing with Metal they have, in fact, remembered)

[kind scarab]

You can remove it and make sense

ALSO

if you are not gonna make her into sonic from the get go

Just dont do ANYTHING

[wind trout]

If we get a love interest bit I’m going to ensure Sonic 4 gets some major rewrites

[stuck solstice]

So do you want romance or not romance?

[kind scarab]

No romance.

At all.

[wind trout]

Agreed

[stuck solstice]

Got it takes notes

[kind scarab]

Id be fine if Amy was into sonic- IF she was introduced differently.

Now that she is much stronger and confident and over his league

[ivory grotto]

doubt we'll ever get romance, just ship teasing is fine

[kind scarab]

I legit want zero, ZERO romance

I mean shippers be shippers

Sonic and Amy could be the most platonic. Heart to heart and people will ship

But regardless, no

[wind trout]

Yea I’m praying they’re platonic

[pale basin]

Henry I fear you are about to be incredibly disappointed by movie 4

[peak grail]

Make sure to include some splashy hills and genesis instrumentation.

[kind scarab]

Ill leave this franchise then lol

[wind trout]

based

[vernal bridge]

Going to torment you with the mental image of Tom giving Sonic a talk about girls

[wind trout]

real

[worn topaz]

I think a short-length crush can happen

[pale basin]

Even so you can still remove the romance

[vernal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-wolverine-professor-x-xavier-xmen-gif-7300178

[worn topaz]

like a couple seconds at most, but it's not gonna be a focus

[stuck solstice]

I want the talk only because it would be one of the best uses of anti humor ever

[pale basin]

Ah, to parallel the scene where Pistol Pete tells Wade about "the birds and the bees" I see

[kind scarab]

If this happens, this is aaaaaall your fault

[stuck solstice]

Make it extremely akward on purpose, that will make the audience laugh

[lime silo]

“Alright, Sonic. It’s about time you learn about the birds and the bees.”

[ivory grotto]

Tom will talk to Sonic about girls regardless if Sonic likes Amy or not

thats a total dad thing to do

[stuck solstice]

"NO, Tom! I don't need the talk! I can watch it in a video! Wait!"

[kind scarab]

Probably and Sonic will be like "uh sure"

[stuck solstice]

Death by having 'the talk'

[kind scarab]

Like in extreme disinterest

I legit do not see movie sonic with a crush

[lime silo]

“The Porn of Disaster!!”

[stuck solstice]

WHAT

[kind scarab]

Is not cuz hes too young or whatever

[grim cedar]

If Eggman is alive in 4, He'll tease sonic by calling her his girlfriend

[kind scarab]

I just dont see it

[ivory grotto]

ship teasing will be the closest they'll ever touch on Amy and Sonic's relationship
they never develop into full on romance to begin with

[kind scarab]

It feels sega wont let them either

[stuck solstice]

They won't, they don't have interest in any ship for now

[pale basin]

Not me

[stuck solstice]

(probably as a side effect of Archie's run)

[pale basin]

Well the fandom will erupt into flames no matter which direction they take Sonic and Amy's relationship in

[kind scarab]

Well good for them

[pale basin]

Which will be entertaining at the very least

I want Amy be a silly girl with raw moments

If leading to romance I sleep

[lime silo]

DEFINITELY a side effect of Archie’s run

[wind trout]

OH THATS FUCKING CURSED😭

[kind scarab]

I just dont want any romance, or crush, or anything of the sort, at worst, from any, if i see anything from sonic ill just leave the theater

[worn topaz]

I can see Amy go "wow, such a hero" close to the end, but again, that's probably the extent of it

[kind scarab]

You see that would be funny

[grim cedar]

The Wachowskis will entertain the idea of trying to get Sonic and Amy together

[kind scarab]

And i can imagine that happening

[pale basin]

Oh they will most likely

Especially knuckles

[stuck solstice]

Parents just being annoying with their son on crushes, that will be funny

[kind scarab]

Like sonic saves her and shes like wowie and sonics like "uh you okay" and shes love struck

[lime silo]

Oh god

I joke, but imagine if they go with that gag of going to Wade for advice

He plays it up like he’s such a playa, a real woman’s man, despite being a fucking goober

[wind trout]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sad-upset-sadness-lonely-gif-16632083

[kind scarab]

I reather shoot myself

[wind trout]

Live footage of me and Henry the second we get Sonic and Amy romance

[stuck solstice]

Going for a truth warrior's advice, what a great idea

[lime silo]

I wonder what henry’s thoughts on Valentines Day are

[peak grail]

Who's to say Wade isn't a playa?

[vernal bridge]

God the Wade shit was so funny actually

[kind scarab]

That they should put more emphasis onto it being love of all kinds :V

[vernal bridge]

The parallel between ready to kill Super Sonic and hit tv show star Wade Whipple doing his usual shit was hilarious

[ivory grotto]

platonic Amy will upset people
love struck Amy will also upset people
girl can never win 😭

[lime silo]

Lovestruck Amy and Sonic is like “ew cooties” like the good ol days of yor

[grim cedar]

Robotnik at sonic, Whose gonna save your girlfriend now? Sonic: She's just a friend, Robotnik: Just a friend?

[lime silo]

I love YOU guys (somewhat)

[grim cedar]

Imagine that classic song

[vernal bridge]

I feel like the former is the least favorable outcome for the safety of all the creatives involved, so they wont

[stuck solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-guys-i-love-you-guys-spiderman-andrew-garfield-andrew-garfield-gif-24180024

[wind trout]

Real asf minus the somewhat part

[vernal bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/xenoblade-xenoblade-chronicles-xenoblade-chronicles2-xenoblade2-rex-gif-25601707

[kind scarab]

Love stuck amy is fine if sonic is whatever about it

Like uh

The games

[drifting hawk]

henry fighting a war he probably won’t win

[kind scarab]

You have no idea how much that upsets me

[wind trout]

Watch him win

[kind scarab]

I just dont want sonic to be into her, thats all i ask for not only the movie series but the whole goddamn franchise

[grim cedar]

For all we know, She could've heard about Sonic the say way Tails has, And went to Earth to see him.

But her being right at the moment Metal Sonic appears, It makes you wonder.

[drifting hawk]

why are u such a love hater

peace and love and shit

[kind scarab]

IM NOT A LOVE HATER

JUST FUCKING LET SONIC BE AN ACE KING

[drifting hawk]

you are NOT getting that out of winter solider let’s be real

[kind scarab]

I HAVENT GOTTEN THAT YET AT ALL

[lime silo]

Wait

That reminds me

So ASSUMING, assuming, this is possibly time travel shenanigans at play with Metal and Amy

So Metal is using Sonic as a basis. Why are they out to kill him Terminator style, wouldn’t that erase Metal in the process?

[wind trout]

When Sonic 4 has no romance: HENRY IS A CHAMPION

[grim cedar]

I expect some references of Thor to be mention in the movie at some point

[ivory grotto]

one thing I want them to avoid is a love triangle between Sonic, Shadow and Amy

[stuck solstice]

We shall see how they address it

[wind trout]

wait but that would entail

[kind scarab]

Why the fuck would they do that

[drifting hawk]

what is with you and thor

this is like ur third time saying it

[ivory grotto]

I dont know what goes on in the mind of Pat Casey

[grim cedar]

When she talks about her Piko Piko Hammer, Sonic would be like, So its like mjolnir?

[lime silo]

Shadow: “Amy… so nice and passionate… reminds me of… her.”

Sonic: “How long have you wanted to bang your foster sister?”

[kind scarab]

I think Pat Casey has been super good about it so far

[wind trout]

Shadow goes to Amy “if you touch him I will end you”

[lime silo]

They better

I want answers, dammit:0c

[kind scarab]

This was the worst thing i ever read in this chamnel

[lime silo]

I try

[vernal bridge]

The idea of Amy being from the future just gave me worst possible outcome

[wind trout]

NO

[kind scarab]

Anyways, you guys have no idea how much something like this would upset me

[stuck solstice]

The worst thing you had read in this channel so far

[vernal bridge]

Them pulling a YGO Arc-V Manga

[stuck solstice]

GET THAT SHIT OUT OF HERE

[vernal bridge]

[wind trout]

I FYCKING TILD YOH NO YOU TIDSN

[stuck solstice]

NO ONE DESERVES TO CHECK THAT ENDING!

[kind scarab]

Honestly maybe its for the best that they do some stupid comphet plot so i can finally drop this series

Henry at 70 years old: in a lovely walk in thenpark with dogs and cats and no sonic in the mind

[vernal bridge]

The good ending

No blue porcupine in mind

[stuck solstice]

For those who don't know, basically ARC-V's manga made the interactions between Yuzu and the Yu boys akward

The Yu boys flirted with Yuzu and what not, all good.. Except she is their mother

[peak grail]

Until you look at the cat and it reminds you of a certain purple feline.

[wind trout]

you’re gonna start thinking about how we talked about no romance as the good old days and start crying?

[lime silo]

The comes Sonic Movie 10, with Sonic training his son to become a hero while Amy smothers him with motherly love

[kind scarab]

And ill be so away from the franchise when that happens

[ivory grotto]

sounds accurate for movie Shadow

[grim cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-adventure-big-the-cat-big-turn-around-lightning-gif-27367995

[wind trout]

oh fuck

[peak grail]

I was going for Blaze, but that works too.

[grim cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/blaze-blaze-the-blaze-the-cat-gif-26104794

[stuck solstice]

Yep. That's why no one should elaborate on this ending again

[wind trout]

Agreed

[drifting hawk]

dude WHAT is your problem 😭😭

what is this

really about

??

[grim cedar]

Someday, This boy will have his time to shine.

https://tenor.com/view/silver-the-hedgehog-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-06-silver-gif-6527229336811087028

[stuck solstice]

ARC-V's manga in a nutshell

[kind scarab]

I am really really really really really really really bitter

I think i already said that

[drifting hawk]

Butter about what

Bitter

[peak grail]

That's a long name.

[wind trout]

can someone tell fizz to unblock me so I can put butter

[kind scarab]

No

[wind trout]

Fair enough

[worn topaz]

There's a few ways they could go with it

1. Metal was made by someone else probably Eggman with a goal to remove the hedgehog from the past, so that they can actually control the world proper or whatever (he still could have the quill)
2. Metal does this out of his own volition and is on the "There's only one Sonic" juice, ala Sonic Heroes

[kind scarab]

I like the first one

[wind trout]

I’m split

[vernal bridge]

Another option is them directly ripping Terminator with first Amy going back in time to change the future

Then the metals following her

[wind trout]

For the post credits we get Silver saying he found the Iblis Trigger

[peak grail]

Why are we assuming Amy is time travelling?

[grim cedar]

I think Movie 4 will show us the different stages of Metal Sonic, First we see him as normal, Then we'll see him upgrade to Neo Metal Sonic, Then Metal Overlord will be the final form for the big kaiju fight

[vernal bridge]

Vibes

[worn topaz]

Hollywood writers aren't that creative lmao

Also the hammer is pretty techy even if compared to stuff Tails has

Something that could've come from the future or whatever

[grim cedar]

Its a hammer most definitely powered by chaos energy

[peak grail]

She's mysterious, but I can guarantee they won't go as far giving her that role.

[worn topaz]

But it's less the assumption that she's a time traveler and moreso the assumption that they're doing something akin to Sonic CD

Which did have time travel

[grim cedar]

Well, get some Stardust Speedway moment, Or some kind of location that kinda looks like it

[peak grail]

The time stones would have to be at play here if it did have time travel.

[worn topaz]

's possible

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grim cedar]

The problem with the time stones, Is they look like the chaos emeralds.

[peak grail]

Tiny time stones, yay.

[wind trout]

Chaos emeralds but square

[grim cedar]

Are we gonna have another movie where they have to search for an artifact that holds the key to time travel

[vernal bridge]

By the way, I think metal's "mouth" is probably decorative and wont move when or if he talks

[wind trout]

IDK probably

[grim cedar]

Instead of seven time stones, Its gonna be just one

[lime silo]

This time they cause hijinks in New York because it turns out the Time Stone (most likely crammed into just one stone for convenience) is buried under the Empire State Building

[wind trout]

But how would they get under ther- oh wait Knuckles can do his spinny little drill move nnvm

[grim cedar]

And they would have a device to track where the time stones are, and it makes that beeping sound

[peak grail]

By the way, the only other mobian that has tech is Shadow.

[wind trout]

Isn't that what happened with the Master Emerald's compass, or am I stupid

[lime silo]

But of course

We need to find an item that takes us to THIS other item, which will take us to the Stone

[worn topaz]

There's also the question on whether they're gonna do something with a potential hedgehog tribe lore or whatever

[peak grail]

I don't think we can go off the tech of Amy's hammer.

[grim cedar]

Tails will use his tablet to locate it

[wind trout]

I mean technically not because we don't really know if he's a Mobian, but could be possible as well with him being part Black Arms.

[vernal bridge]

I really want them to go into it

[worn topaz]

That's fair

[lime silo]

And Sonic makes a King Kong joke or something

Or a Spiderman joke

[vernal bridge]

Specially on the reason why when Eggman takes the master emerald it stays the same

[peak grail]

Mobian-like character.

[vernal bridge]

While if a hedgehog grabs it, it breaks into the 7 emeralds

[peak grail]

You get it.

[grim cedar]

Maybe Sonic makes a TMNT joke, If the location of the Time stone is in the sewers.

[lime silo]

Ohhhh they better, actually

[wind trout]

"Ok, Mecha Godzilla! If you think a giant new form of yours can stop me, you're wrong.

[lime silo]

Since Ben Schwartz voiced Leo

Please don’t fuck it up

[lime silo]

Oh god, I can see that happen

[wind trout]

Yes yes yes yes as long as he makes a rise reference ill be fine

[worn topaz]

Also I know they kinda don't like making monsters or whatever full-on CG monsters and go for puppets instead, but it'd be so cool if Metal Overlord was part of Sonic 4 somehow

Or go the comics route and do Super Neo Metal

[peak grail]

Will it not?

They need some good spectacle.

[lime silo]

Sonic: “Gross… Here we are down in the sewers and not a single Ninja Turtle.”

Amy: “Ninja Turtle?”

Sonic: “Super cool turtles that learn martial arts. Tails always says I’m like Mikey, buuuut I dunno, I see myself as Leo, y’know?”

[vernal bridge]

I wonder if we will see the consequences of GUN realizing the value of the Chaos Emeralds

[wind trout]

🔥

[lime silo]

At least Neo, sounds like an ideal change without going TOO far

[solid bobcat]

I dont think amy is from the future

[vernal bridge]

Cause before movie 3 they probably only thought they just made Sonic slightly stronger and able to fly

But a being able to stop a planet destroying laser is on another level

[solid bobcat]

Theres already a precedent of advanced technology from aliens

[worn topaz]

u right

[vernal bridge]

Could be some "ancient" alien artifact

[wind trout]

Like the ancients?

[solid bobcat]

Could just be a hightech hammer

[vernal bridge]

As in "old"

[wind trout]

[solid bobcat]

Remember the birds

[lime silo]

Plot twist

Amy’s hammer is a Tails-made device from the future

Paramount, hire me

[peak grail]

You mean the anonymous creatures that went to investigate what Robotnik did?

[tall linden]

i am seated for round 3

[wind trout]

round three with the speed

[stuck solstice]

Someone forgot the Knuckles series

[tall linden]

https://tenor.com/view/revenge-guac-shadow-the-hedgehog-sonic-3-sonic-movie-3-shadow-gif-102530031665370774

[vernal bridge]

I would like to have my second round in english again. But most likely it will be on spanish thanks to the circumstances 😔

[peak grail]

Knuckles could technically be the Iblis trigger.

When Wade dies, everything will go into flames.

And disasters will happen.

[wind trout]

I haven’t but I couldn’t resist making the reference😭

[stuck solstice]

Fair enough

[worn topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlgQIU2Qgu0 I think this was posted in podcast form before, but I just got to it and it's kinda funny how the "Sonic is not from this world" came straight from SEGA

The two worlds biting the asses yet again smh

I do think at least the movies convey it a lot better just by having those portal rings

Sucks that games don't lmao

not yet at least

crossworlds lore gonna go stoopid!

[weary crystal]

Games had them for special stages

[stuck solstice]

https://twitter.com/TomLegend101/status/1872306956565963191

Tom Surtees ❄️🎄🦋 (@TomLegend101) on X

Found @KatieChrz in the #SonicMovie3 credits 💙🎉

Twitter · Dec 26, 2024, 3:42 PM

[worn topaz]

Yeah, but it was mostly relegated to optional content that was barely relevant to actual stories the games were telling

And you just go to a different world that's a lot more abstract that has no real involvement in the plot instead of, say, Station Square or whatever

[weary crystal]

Hiroshi Nishiyama has seemingly been involved with Sonic art since 2019 now

On the movies at least

Maybe on games?

I wish we could get a clearer picture on what concept art he's drawn

[weary crystal]

True, but it is a fairly easy integration because of it

[worn topaz]

Nishiyama's been with SEGA (moreso Sonic Team USA) back in Adventure days doing concept art and world art and whatnot

he came back in 2019 and it was kind of a big deal in forums and whatnot

[weary crystal]

This has been the only modern art they've shown from him

And it was a Puma collab

Bobnik with the double and whatnots

[hybrid aspen]

id assume he was somewhat involved with frontiers aesthetically

[weary crystal]

Throwback since Nidio is here https://x.com/existingdebeing/status/1368053750364012546?t=RilMYXHQJoMszz93hB8w7g&s=19

Existing the Being (@existingdebeing) on X

the fact that the person that made this (Hiroshi Nishiyama) is most likely the art director for the new sonic game is giving me hope that at least graphically it will look nice

Twitter · Mar 6, 2021, 4:20 AM

[hybrid aspen]

oh yeah i watched the movie btw

[weary crystal]

Nice

How was it

And was it packed?

[hybrid aspen]

yes very

pretty much every sit but the front 2 rows were full i think

[worn topaz]

wikis only say he worked on the Frontiers prologue as an exec.producer

[hybrid aspen]

oh

[weary crystal]

Oh wait iirc

He may have also confirmed having done Green Hill concept art for the movie

[hybrid aspen]

a lot of the people there were sonic fans

[weary crystal]

Fan driven moment

I hope it has decent legs

[hybrid aspen]

i am not used to having sonic fans in the vicinity so hearing someone utter the words "they should adapt sonic underground and put manic in sonic 5" as i was leaving the theater was a very scary experience

[stuck solstice]

I never thought I would hear those words be said in that specific order

[hybrid aspen]

i mean it was ironic

but

i think just hearing anyone talk about sonic underground is crazy for me lmao

irl i mean

but it was really cool seeing some people there were fans ngl

there were kids talking about sxsg

idk what they were talking about i just heard one of them say "sonic x shadow generations" mid-sentence and my neuron activated

[wind trout]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[peak grail]

I think that seeing kids invested in Sonic nowadays is truly an amazing sight to behold.

[pale basin]

sjskljf

[peak grail]

These movies have done a lot.

[hybrid aspen]

back in like 2018 i never would have imagined i would leave a theater and hear people talking about neo metal sonic, manic, black doom, and mephiles as if they are characters people are just familiar with in pop culture lmao

[worn topaz]

Going back to this - Sonic 2 apparently had some unfinished stuff in VFX department when it released internationally that they fixed a couple weeks later

[hybrid aspen]

yeah i remember seeing some comparisons

[worn topaz]

Interesting, didn't know that

[hybrid aspen]

like the chili dog landing on knuckles face in the ending was changed iirc

[wind trout]

Manic

We are not getting a fucking Sonic Six Feet underground character in the movies

[hybrid aspen]

idk man

maybe thats what the people want...

[wind trout]

He's got me there chat

[void stream]

Okay this actually made me wonder

[hybrid aspen]

the children yearn for the triplets born

[worn topaz]

those people should be in the locker

[peak grail]

Manic and pink haired hedgehog girl doing pop culture references would go crazy.

[void stream]

Actually nvm sega has a stronger role in development now so idk

[hybrid aspen]

sonia??

their names are not hard to remember 😭

[wind trout]

Nah I think Pin means Amy

[peak grail]

I don't remember their names by memory.

[wind trout]

oh nvm

[hybrid aspen]

ITS SONIC WITH A LETTER SWAPPED HOW

[ivory grotto]

movies getting patch updates

[worn topaz]

wouldn't be the first/only one

[peak grail]

Idk, I just don't care about Sonic Underground.

It is like the obscure Sonic show.

[hybrid aspen]

its also really bad

but idk i feel like if people know anything about it its the names of sonia and manic lol

[wind trout]

More like six feet underground

[peak grail]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-underground-cliff-knuckles-bad-animation-gif-24184349

[mild fulcrum]

Sonic Mania

[wind trout]

OH I HATE THAT
WHY IS HE BIGGER THAN KNUCKLES AND WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO HIS HAND😭

[ivory grotto]

I bet Sonic Underground resonated with some people who have siblings

[peak grail]

I always remember Cybershell's reaction when this plays.

[mild fulcrum]

I kinda respect Underground for doing the SatAM thing but made Sonic and his siblings royalty and they fight through the power of music

[wind trout]

Sonic Mania if it wasn't good

[mild fulcrum]

Underground was more unique

While def being a product of its time

[ivory grotto]

they never found thier mother 😔

[wind trout]

damn.

Now I kinda feel bad

[peak grail]

I mean, it would be more correct to say we don't know if they ever found their mother.

[wind trout]

hopefully they did

[mild fulcrum]

We can assume they did at the end

[pale basin]

still better than most of frontiers cutscenes

[hybrid aspen]

you gotta stop with this shit at some point man

how long are you gonna make the same jokes of "hey this really bad thing is still better than this other thing i dont like and want to complain about"

feels like every other time you respond to something its to compare it in some way to a thing you dont like that was not brought up or discussed whatsoever in the previous conversation

[wind trout]

What the fuck

[pale basin]

my hate has no limits

you didn't notice the willfully absurd aspect of my joke?

[hybrid aspen]

I notice them but it's still annoying bc you're still complaining about stuff lol

[solid bobcat]

Oh my

Interesting

[hybrid aspen]

Even if you don't really think that underground gif looks better than frontiers cutscenes, you just used it as an opportunity to complain about them for no real reason

Obviously you can criticize them but you kinda just take a different convo and make it about something else

[pale basin]

yeah the point of the joke is to throw strays

[hybrid aspen]

Yeah and it can get old very quick 😭

[drifting hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-anime-anime-side-eye-dan-da-dan-side-eye-turbo-granny-gif-1190417247972633666

[hybrid aspen]

Throwing strays is funny bc it's unexpected, but like when you do it a lot the unexpectedness disappears

[worn topaz]

going back again to that podcast - it's pretty cool that the main crew seemingly stayed pretty much the same since movie 1

Which doesn't really happen that often with movies from what I've gathered

[tall linden]

round 3 done

still good

https://tenor.com/view/still-good-aladdin-box-gif-14987180

[true heron]

Damn sonic 3's first day was almost as stron as mufasa's in france

But

Mufasa didn't have any premiere

And

It opened to a lot more cinemas

[tall linden]

my theater has a LOT more showtimes for sonic than mufasa lol

[stuck solstice]

https://fxtwitter.com/MationMiss/status/1872418452805476475

😭

[ivory grotto]

Damn
Sonic has turned a kid against Mufasa

[wind trout]

shadow taught them MIAB, Mufasa is a Bastard

[grim cedar]

Depends, He probably didn't like that Mufasa stole his brother's girl

[stuck solstice]

What

[grim cedar]

Wasn't there this whole thing about the two falling for Sarabi or something?

[stuck solstice]

I don't know much about Mufasa

[worn topaz]

from the podcast - Tyson said that it's been completely different working on Sonic stuff at SEGA before the movies and after movies. He mentioned that when he was working on earlier cartoons, they were doing it "in a cave with rocks"

I know it's not exactly relevant to the movie, but yeah

[stuck solstice]

"Tony Stark was able to build it in a cave! With a bunch of scraps!"

[weary crystal]

Wild

[stuck solstice]

The movies definetely made a before and after for the franchise

Funny data

there is a nod to Shadow's voice actor, René García, in movie 3's Latin Spanish dub

at some point of the third act, Eggman calls Shadow 'insecto'

this is a reference to the most reocurrent insult that Vegeta has within the latin spanish dub of Dragon Ball as a franchise

[true heron]

Can't get shit in this world
https://fxtwitter.com/gendaigoods/status/1872231196455051719?t=um7k7MWwYMIIu8keGAGnRg&s=19

The ring brooo

[solid bobcat]

There is a guy in a disney board room looking at pictures of shadow confused

[stuck solstice]

"Why kids are liking this edgy hedgehog?"

[stuck solstice]

So cool

[solid bobcat]

This is how we get the kingdom hearts movie

[wind trout]

I wish I was in Japan bro this shit is so fucking cool why couldn't they have done it in the states as merch for the Fan Event

oops wrong message

I meant Dakiii's "Can't get shit in this world"

[peak grail]

Silly Leo.

That's not the correct person.

[true heron]

IT STILL GOES ON LMFAOOOO
https://fxtwitter.com/DisneyStudios/status/1872402005617938686?t=_mWMq88u3LdHKuTEGVfUvg&s=19

[stuck solstice]

https://fxtwitter.com/JonesDavy49353/status/1872400360146665969/en

[wind trout]

It will confuse me how they managed to pull this off

[hard spoke]

im gonna be honest

this was the only gratuitous dance sequence I semi enjoyed

[kind scarab]

Honestly i really dont want to see Black Doom in Movie

I Think hes one of the worst sonic villains and you can make something WAY cooler with shadow

Like actually being from a family of evil super powered hedgehogs, or something of the sort

The idea that shadow gave me is that he was planned to be a destructive force, sent frok another planet and found

But considering he has no memory of who he is

Or where he came from, its possible he forgot everything when he fell

Like maybe some superman thing where he was sent to earth

[peak grail]

This has to be one of the most controversial takes from you.

[split agate]

I think black doom’s rad but he only works as a foil to shadow

anyone else, not so much, he’s just some guy

[pale basin]

Agreed honestly

[split agate]

works specifically for a shadow spinoff unless they like, fully lean into making gun villainous (which I can’t see happening cos 3 was all about shadow leaving that behind in a way)

(also I don’t think they’re getting Krysten Ritten back I’ll be honest lol)

[feral path]

Yeah, Krysten Ritter wants to be involved in the MCU 🫠

[stuck solstice]

She already was .v

Jessica Jones

[feral path]

well she wants to be involved in it again

[drifting hawk]

they really just wasted her lmao

[stuck solstice]

To be fair

for a while she has been teasing her return as Jessica Jones

being with the actor of Luke Cage

and some other bits even beyond Sonic movie 3

Not sure if she will get it, though. MCU has been weird with the characters that aren't from the Netflix Daredevil series directly

[pale basin]

Black doom is a type of villain where you can easily put in a spinoff

I may never care for black doom but his purpose works

[nocturne falcon]

Ain't that just Dragon ball?

[kind scarab]

Idk

But yea i imagine they could do something different with shadow

The black arms can fuck off

[nocturne falcon]

What's your issue with em?

[kind scarab]

THEY ARE BAD

[nocturne falcon]

do you want to elaborate?

[stuck solstice]

No

[kind scarab]

uh, there are bad guys and nothing else

They have no personality, no charm

[stuck solstice]

Goku still remembered his saiyan stuff after arriving to Earth

[kind scarab]

The only one who matters is Black Doom

And he is lame as hell

[stuck solstice]

He forgot after he accidentally fell off to a cliff and hit his head days later his initial landing

[nocturne falcon]

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing depending on how you play it tbh

[split agate]

It’s so funny folks thought she was phoning it in from the preview clip and man, if you handed me a script where I had that little to do I’d phone it in too 💀

[nocturne falcon]

Like, they could spin it as some kind of doom hive mind. All the black arms essentially having 0 free will and basically being mindless soldiers of destruction, which could also contrast what shadow COULD have been

[kind scarab]

They just make em hedgehogs as well

Hes not made anymore

[nocturne falcon]

Plus there's the fact that Black Doom cannot be reasoned with or redeemed cause...he's basically the devil

[kind scarab]

... and?

Hes still a lame ass villain and his design is wack

[stuck solstice]

Are you okay bro? Do you need a hug?

[nocturne falcon]

(oh and also...they don't have to stick to the games either.)

[stuck solstice]

Some coffee? Cookies?

[nocturne falcon]

(so if you don't like a character in particular there's all the chance that a new interpretation can change that)

[kind scarab]

I rather them do something new than try to make black doom work tbh

[peak grail]

Oh no, somebody's gotten onto their hater attitude again.

[stuck solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/gingerbread-cookies-cookies-gingerbread-man-christmas-cookies-gif-8858646673832147041

Have some cookies, you need to rest

[kind scarab]

I am resting and i have a cold thats unbearable

[stuck solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-he-just-like-he-just-like-me-fr-meme-gif-573734217303447410

[kind scarab]

And with that i say id enjoy the deadly six in the movies more than black doom

[nocturne falcon]

PFFF

[kind scarab]

I didnt know the server had black doom fans

[nocturne falcon]

I mean I'm not super big on them or anything

[odd grotto]

Tbh he's lame but i think the design kinda fucks

It's edgy Wizeman

[kind scarab]

Ok, if you gotta have the black arms then you gotta change them up a lot

[nocturne falcon]

But I do find em semi interesting I guess and if expanded right they could be a nice reoccuring set of antagonists. cause tbh I am sick of Eggman being the only one

[odd grotto]

But even better than that is the eye, just a simple starfish

[kind scarab]

First of all, make em a proper race

Instead of just evil aliens make em more than that

[odd grotto]

If they did go about adding them there's def no doubt they'd expand on them more

[kind scarab]

Like let them have a society

[nocturne falcon]

tbh the black arms kinda remind me of the daleks from doctor who. genetically engineered to be some of the most deadly weapons in the universe, born to hate and eliminate anything that isn't them

[kind scarab]

I wanna see a black arms city

Black Doom is their king

[odd grotto]

And it looks like a DOOM level

[nocturne falcon]

they live in RADICAL HIGHWAY city

[odd grotto]

No stinkin empty comet

[kind scarab]

He actually is adored and loved by his people
And all of them want to be the only existing race

And shadow was their weapon that was broight back to earth to destroy it

[odd grotto]

Dude imagine if they had like, multiple iterations they developed before settling on Shadow

This is how we get Eclipse..

[wind trout]

They more than likely did

in case Shadow failed y’know

[peak grail]

I can't wait to see the lizard iteration.

[odd grotto]

doom lizard

[nocturne falcon]

so a doomified biolizard??

[peak grail]

Yes.

[kind scarab]

Yea sure

[wind trout]

But anthro

[odd grotto]

Lizard stays, you got Eclipse for that

[kind scarab]

You need so much adding up to make the black arms be interesting to me

[odd grotto]

Damn imagine using the different iterations to adapt the whole real or fake shadow thing

[kind scarab]

Like i need a black arms city

That looks sick

A purple gooey metropolis

[nocturne falcon]

I would imagine they probably have a planet, the comet is just how they get about

[odd grotto]

Black Arms city with the vibes of Westopolis

[wind trout]

I’d imagine that the Black Arms is sorta like a monarchy, and since Black Doom made Shadow the vanguard of their invasion, Shadow was next in line to rule, and it goes on

[peak grail]

The movie universe is established to have multiple planets, so it would be very easy to make a Black Arms planet.

[wind trout]

‘Shadow, King of the Black Arms’ kinda sounds badass

[pale basin]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-jezman-shrek-staring-gif-2196831725540655154

[nocturne falcon]

Like I said they'll probably do their own shtick with it

[kind scarab]

You see i can vibe with that

But man the black arms as they are with the game stuff? Horrible

[odd grotto]

Yea pretty whatever

[peak grail]

Just you wait until we get Shadow the Hedgehog 2.

[nocturne falcon]

Really don't think it's that deep tbh. not enough to get that riled up about lmao

[kind scarab]

???

What do you mean that deep