[SPOILERS] Sonic Movie 3

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Bullying works against execs

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That movie design was a legit shift in timeline

100%

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Everything changed post sonic 1

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That design responsible for a whole sega revival

Shame is...powerful

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new law: if a company makes a shit decision or shit design for a character, the internet can bully the fuck out of them to make them change it to something better

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Shadow will be in the next movie with a smaller role methinks

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He will have his series

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https://fixupx.com/YUNGWiZVRD/status/1870344809396982238

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Which i hope adds Rouge and Omega

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*2027

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2027*

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With the addition of Amy and Metal Sonic, That's a lot of characters they have to balance

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fuck you

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Yeah I feel like if they are going to do shadow movie, they have to put both Rouge and Omega

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He will likely also just...have a movie tbh

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I'm not sure he will be in the next movie. I think both him and Eggman should sit it out until a post credit scene me thinks

Omega is MAD simple to implement anyways since it's well.... Omega

Rouge however is a far different case

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Shadow the Hedgehog (2025)

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I dont know if we are gonna get rouge tbh

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idk if i'd even wanna watch an alt version of movie 3 if we still lived in that dimension
shadow would've been so cooked

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There would be no 3

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Yeah Rouge a very tricky one to say

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true

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There wouldn't be a frontiers

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nobody would. SEGA would die and Sonic would be thrown to the street. Mario would become the ultimate game character

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Introduce them in movie 4 then establish team dark in a shadow the hedgehog spinoff movie (2030)

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There wouldnt be a new golden axe, or jsr, or vurtia fighter

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all SEGA employees must work for Nintendo now or McDonald’s

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Nothing

Sonic would be a mobile franchise

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ATLUS wouldn't exist either

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me in the theatre when Sonic and Amy join forces, boosting towards Metal to strike the final blow in an amazing climax.... only for them to get bounced back by a random ass spring on the ground like in CD

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I don't think Eggman is coming back period

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ok now I kinda doubt it would do that 😭

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We wouldn't have gotten a movie 3

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Atlus and yakuza studio would be the only things that existed

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Let alone movie 2

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Yea his death is more than likely a way to say goodbye

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I think atlus and sonic would still be fine because sonic just kept "dying" but you saw how that went

but we'd prob get forces 2

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oh right yeah LMAO

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we’re getting it anyway

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Watching reaction videos to the post credit scene now

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Shame is a great motivator

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I dunno, he is the flagship villain of the franchise. I think there is wiggle room to bring him back if they want.

He's not a character I truly believe in the finality of

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He'll come back if jim carey wants money

Thats it

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I think I’m fine with Robotnik staying dead now but it is what it is if he returns

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I was waiting for the moment when they do the announcement scene, We go something similiar, but not quite like that

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Yeah

I don't expect him next movie, but I don't think he's gone forever

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I don’t think he’s gonna be that prominent in 4

If at all

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Movie 4 post-credits where Jim Carrey finds himself in the Sol Dimension

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Gerald Geppetto
🤝

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Who tf is Carrye

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erm edited, too slow

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damnit

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I think what I'm more surprised at is how much they showed, yet still managed the context of a lot of it to be unexpected.

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Even with both Amy and Metal. Like I did not expected what they are going for

Neon lights is stuck in my head for some reason

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Same

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Ngl, the sa2 line before they jumped out of the copter felt so phoned in. Why did he did he stand up and turn to them like that 😭

Like yeah he said the thing but omg

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I liked it

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Can I just say, the pose and aura at the end with "You better not miss"
That was pure Game Sonic

Loved that delivery

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oh yeah that was good

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I am really loving how Movie Sonic is getting more close to game sonic

HIs development is fucking incredible

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Can we just admire how good Amy looks

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She's so fluffy

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she is just cute and I do like they made her bangs a lil messier, more 'fluff' to the mix and not just copying Tails' three bangs

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I like how cute she looks but man i really hope shes not just a capable independant woman

She needs some silly on her

I do love how her hair looks like sa1 amy

Like the thicker lower end

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Sonic CD, Sonic saves Amy from Metal Sonic, And now its Amy who saves Sonic from Metal Sonic, I like the juxtaposition of that.

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I’m just wondering who they’ll get to voice her tbh

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The grifters are gonna tear her apart and I'm not looking forward to that

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oh my GOD

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Whoever it is, Hopefully is someone that will put there hearts to

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STOP TALKIMG ABOUT THEM

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kit seriously

Can you fucking stop it?

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You bring them up and they literally dont need to be mentioned

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I only said it once earlier. But it's a fact, we saw it happen with peach

......kit

Seriously

Just enough man

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Stop talking about who

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Kit stop

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This is why you dont need to say it lol

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Just stop

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Oh

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I dont care about grifters, they dont deserve a shred of thought

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I rather say it and get it out of the way to mentally prepare myself

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From me

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I’m not worried about them, actually

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Mentally prepare for what

You could just ignore them

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I’m back what happened

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Mentally prepare yourself on your own, you don't need to broadcast it here

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Best not to look up, leo

But yes as for Amy

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Oh ok

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I’m probably gonna rewatch the movie online once I get home

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Her design is growing on me, but I have faith in the writers after with this movie

I know they won't fumbled Amy

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Get more definitive thoughts

I thought I could wait until digital release but i cannot help myself 😭

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Same lmao

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Sonic 1 was a road trip comedy
Sonic 2 was a standard action adventure
Sonic 3 was more or less a 'Sonic' movie

I am preparing myself for 4 to be a rom com with action in it

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I'm probably gonna go back and watch it again on official release over here

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It was a joke, but man, that spot I got is taunting me now 😭

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I hope it’s Sonic who’s in love with Amy and not the usual Amy is crazy for Sonic

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honestly, id prefer if neither of them were in love

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Same

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run it run it run it

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till we’re running out of road

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[2010s YouTube intro part]

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I remember speculating this years ago, how Movie Sonic would've likely been the one to fall in love more than Amy would, since he was the one that craved companionship

or if anything, share sentiments with Amy if she were to have a crush on him, just two silly kids falling in love, that ol thing

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maybe I was a bit harsh on run it cause when I heard in the theatre that shit sounded good

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Oh yeah other thing

Saw people online going “im sorry movie sonic” and stuff like that

Was he really that different here? 😭

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They weren't familiar with his game

But not really lol

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The worst of his jokes were all revealed in the marketing material

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Like this is coming from someone who already liked him enough

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He wasn’t too different characterization wise but like

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Yeah he got a bit more development

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he locked in proper this time

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He beats Shadow up and almost kills him, but stops himself

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It's literally just for the last 30 minutes of the movie why people are saying that

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That's also what allows him to get through to Shadow

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They just wanted him to lock in and fight

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Because he didn't go down the same road

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I would like Amy to be in love, not crazy but with a cute crush. If she doesn't it wont be the end of the world tho

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Hasn’t he locked in and fought like twice before tho

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Now that I think about it I hope Amy’s cards are also in the movie

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Amy's Hammer gotta be something special, I'm getting Thor vibes.

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Yeah her hammer is..... very different

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He has, they just don't give credit
He was bursting Knuckles' seams for a hot minute last movie

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I guess it was less cringe this time I dunno

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at best, I can see them treating it like Boom Amy

where she does have a crush on Sonic, but it's something she's trying to hide or staggers if it gets hinted at or teased

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Tbf

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NO

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The way her hammer glows and stuff

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ABSOLUTELY NOT

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Please no boom amy

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NO NO NO

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what

WHAT

WHAT DO YOY WANT

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NO BOOM AMY owo crush

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Something unique about that

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oh

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Let me say mine

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was boom amy that bad

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No

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I wanted Amy to have her badass moments but still be a silly girl

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I can see them keeping her crush but leaving it as less pronounced

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But it’s not

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That's all I want

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i want EITHER

NOTHING

or

near STALKER

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Lowkey yeah

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How amy should be

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Honestly i have the impression she might not have a crush ;p

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Oh we are no way getting the stalker-ish again

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At all

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Like Boom Sonic and Boom Amy, I think they work very well in that universe

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Tbh….yeaa…..

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In that universe sure

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But I don’t want them to be like, their main selves

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I mean tbf she can pull her Hammer out of nowhere lol

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If that makes sense

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Yes

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I mean the design

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I saw that

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Anyway uh I think Amy should team up with Wade Whipple and go on a globe trotting adventure

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Sonic 1 but it’s Amy

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Amy joining with Wade and Knuckles

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I REALLY do not want Sonic to EVER have feelings for her

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Peak trio

🗿

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I think if Amy does have a crush they should just have her be chill like the current direction they're doing for her

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Absolutely not for the love of god AVOID THAT

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I would like Sonic to being very impressed but treat her more as a friend

Not hiding it but not obsessive

The fandom can keep their headcannon over romance is all I care lmao

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i legitndo not want movie sonic to be gaga over her

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But back to sonic I found him substantially less cringe here

I think it’s also what plug said, his worst jokes were in the trailer

I was prepared for them

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I’d leave it ambiguous altogether for fan speculation, maybe one scene where they look at each other for a bit and that’s all

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^

That's all I wanted honestly

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This my actual opinion too but I kind of gave up on stalker amy coming back in any way

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Funny thing when he went “konichiwhaaaat” there was like a two second silence and some guy behind me went “SHUT the fuck up”

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Movie Sonic: spews about 10 pop culture references that Amy reminds him of

Movie Amy: "God he's so hot..."

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Maybe have her be like really good friends with her. If that makes sense

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https://tenor.com/view/cutscene-eggman-super-sonic-sonic-unleashed-sonic-gif-9398740191290450956

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I booed at which way to hogwarts and the way he said “talk about low budget flights” made me hang my head low but otherwise it was fine

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Again just treat Amy like she is Sonic's close friend

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like Rockwell made the same face I did

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That's all really

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Lowkey me for the first half of the movie

I just wasn't into the quips

This is why I don't focus on one scene over the entire char

💀

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Movie Sonic has some very real chances of reciprocating imo. Def muting Amy if that happens for my sanity

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https://tenor.com/view/squidward-oh-no-hes-hot-shaking-gif-16063591

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Yea agreed, like Amy is his close friend, but there’s no romance between the two

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I already mute Amy anyways

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dude what the fuck is this thing

i walked into a gamestop 😭

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sonic man

wait

NO NO NO

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Please no sonamy

[grim cedar]

If Sonic Movie 4 uses the Sonic CD story, Could they do time travel?

[kind scarab]

We are already doing metaliz

[lime silo]

thank god I'm not the only one

like, I get it, he's on a plane and this is an SA2 movie, but man that line just had no natural flow to it

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they’re gonna smooch henry

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From sonic the comic

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and there’s nothing

you can do about it

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not if we have something to say about it

[kind scarab]

I rather you call me a slur

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also oh my god it is fucking miserable in here 😭

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I mean they can still do like "Sonic saving Amy for something major happened" and some shit, but just keep it at vague

That's it

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So little games and so much useless junk

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😭

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Shadow

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What stuff

[drifting hawk]

like why is kung fu panda 4 on dvd here in the gamestop

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LOL

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Henry live theater reaction:

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-1879411192175791821

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They sell DVDs at GameStop now?

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Yes

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Yes

Or just

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already imagined a different take in my head because, fuck

Sonic: "Start with the giant fireball, I like it! Well boys, this is where we take off!"

Rockwell: "No! We're supposed to drop you off at the access point."

Sonic: "Sorry, lady, but military dropoff ain't our style. Seriously, no food or movies? I'm outta here!"

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https://tenor.com/view/sonic-unleashed-night-of-the-werehog-transformation-gif-26741255

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erm, on second thought,,,,

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why does Gamestop have movies

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Because it’s GameStop

[lime silo]

might as well call it

Stop

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they have all kinds of random shit in there

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PEAK

[drifting hawk]

Shelves stacked with funkos

Water bottles

what the fuck are we doing

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Maybe they could do something like sonic saved her from something as a little kid but he doesn't remember cause it was long ago or something trivial. And that inspired Amy to get stronger and find him again. Would be a neat way to infer classic games and lore being in the past

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T-shirts

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Yeah basically

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a bin of junk no one wanted on sale

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The local one had a Katara necklace set

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Ironically the box of junk was sonic stuff

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Sonamy fans will treat it like "OMFG IT'S CANON!" but I don't gaf

Will be a nice way to do so over both Sonic and Amy

But I don't think they should like..... completely avoid any moments between Sonic and Amy at least

Just at least show more so their connection that has nothing to do with romance

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Well.... obviously

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Thinking about it the other end of the spectrum would Amy gettin Watchowsky'd, essentialy becoming Sonic sister. The reactions would be nuclear

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NO

NO

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Nah she has to be wachowski honestly

I feel like if so it should be mainly Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Amy

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Why-

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Not something like Shadow being part of wachowski family

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Can she just have her own thing

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I don't think that house can survive more kids 😭

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Like shes part of a different family

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I mean I don't mind if they do also

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Yea that more than likely won’t happen but I’d like to see how he’s a close family friend

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ye

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Despite him breaking tom’s arm

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He's on a mission tbf

There has to be sacrifices

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Yea true

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"NOOOOOOOOOOOO MY SHIPPINNNNNNNNNNNNNG"

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https://tenor.com/view/my-first-girlfriend-turned-into-the-moon-thats-rough-that-rough-buddy-avatar-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-5710468

Followed by me dying of laughter

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I feel like Amy’s the type to get her own house and/or apartment

[kind scarab]

You guys are so over the top about it and it feels like its my fault

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Yes

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Yea tbh true

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That tho is what I can easily see

A nice callback to SA1

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and we already saw a Zillow thing with the sellers name being Amy Rose in 1, so she could own a nice little house

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If they’re feeling really wild could actually call back to that one reference from movie 1 and say she’s been on earth this entire time

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How was she not been caught by the government this entire time?

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as some sort of “problem lookout”

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It's very possible since they have been showing Amy's name plenty of time lmao

tbf leo

Turning product placement into an actual plot point would be funny

She has been wearing a literal cloak

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Ok yea fair

[void stream]

It doesn’t seem like she has typical energy powers like the others

The pink energy came from her hammer

[pale basin]

Yeah there is also that

Her energy was essentially more so her hammer

Where as for Sonic and Knuckles it's far more noticeable

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Its like they are treating Amy as Thor

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Honestly yeah

[lime silo]

that would be funny now that I think about it

some other town or city happened to have a furry resident and they just welcomed her in as she gets her own little house or apartment, like how she lived on her own in SA1

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I can legit see that

It'll be a way for Amy wanting to get to know more over Team Sonic

Until they made a mess and she goes furious lmao

[lime silo]

her sporting some epic cloak just happened out of hijinks on the way to New York

[grim cedar]

The wachowskis are gonna have there hands full dealing with 4 of them

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Why NY is the real question

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But yeah Amy being treated more like a neighbor makes the most sense looking back

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Ik it's not but it be really funny if they tied it into this:

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OU SHIT O FORHOT THEY HAD THET

[lime silo]

I guess to get another "well known location" off the check list for the movie

they did San Francisco, they did Hawaii, they did Japan and London, what next?

uhhhhhh New York?

yeah, let's do that next

[strong basin]

Where’s phoenix smh

[lime silo]

essentially one aspect of these films is the idea of "Sonic but in iconic/well known location"

[strong basin]

Lemme meet Sonic

[pale basin]

But now that Shadow is out of the way and we already got Metal Sonic. You think they'll do it again where they are teasing for the much bigger threat?

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also I forgot Seattle

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Phoenix and Houston

[pale basin]

Now I think about this

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Can we start powerscaling Dave from Alvin and chipmunks with the Wachowski's ability to raise multiple talking anthropomorphic animals

[lime silo]

and Oaklahoma

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If so Wachowski already wins lmao

[lime silo]

Tom and Maddie win by a landslide because they're raising furries essentially with god-like powers

[kind scarab]

Hammer... cloak.... yep.

Also bird, Jet Confirmed

[lime silo]

not to mention getting in on the action when called for it

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Oh right yeah!

I completely forgot about that LMAO

I guess this will be essentially how Amy wields the hammer

💀

[grim cedar]

Now that we know whose gonna be in Sonic Movie 4, Silver for Sonic Movie 5?

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Fr

[pale basin]

Honestly I prefer that way tiger

[strong basin]

Let Sonic go to Buc-ee’s

[pale basin]

I feel like Silver being saved for sonic 5 movie works better

[slate gate]

I’m still in between

Both make sense

[pale basin]

But however for Silver case, it has to be a much bigger threat team sonic, amy, and shadow has to be heavily involved with

[grim cedar]

They need to do the time travel thing, But that depends on where they go with 4, If its based on Sonic CD, They did time travel long before Sonic 06

[pale basin]

yeah

[slate gate]

You see that’s what I’m thinking tho

Wouldn’t metal be a huge threat and silver would be easily gullible enough to kill sonic to end metal???

[pale basin]

Imma be real, I dunno how silver will work still or even blaze given what they did with knuckles

I genuinely think riders makes more sense to get to given the established owl and echidna beef

Metal is a weird case to say

But not going to put aside over that

Just another option

[slate gate]

I pitched the idea of terminator, metals destroying the future

[grim cedar]

Anything is possible now, With the changes to Shadow's origin, anyone can show up

[slate gate]

Silver sees metal = mistakes as sonic

[pale basin]

The main thing for Silver is just depends on which one they'll go for

[slate gate]

No Iblis trigger

Makes it easier for kids to understand

[pale basin]

A threat related to Shadow (Black Doom)
A monster that will destroy the planet (Perfect Chaos)
Or a literal terminator (Metal Sonic)

[strong basin]

Ok hear me out on this… the Metal clones can’t seem to defeat Sonic and Amy so Metal Sonic recruits Silver to try and kill Sonic but Silver finds out Neo Metal is the real threat

[wind trout]

how about all 3

[slate gate]

Na imo

[pale basin]

......yeah no

[grim cedar]

Can you do Silver without Blaze? Because those two are always together

[pale basin]

yes

[slate gate]

If metals are destroying the future, why would silver would work with him

[wind trout]

Yes

[pale basin]

But the metals are being dealt with in movie 4

Unless you're saying they come from the future but even then wouldn't that still be ripe to introduce silver instead of amy

[wind trout]

IDW is a prime example of this

[pale basin]

Silver has no reason to be with Blaze imho

They already shown this thanks to IDW

[slate gate]

Ya I’m thinking the metals could be from the future

Amy def gives off that distant future vibe to her

[pale basin]

Which brings up CD

Since CD is centralized around time travel

[pale basin]

It'd lowkey be fucked up if both Amy and knuckles stole all of silvers shit lmao

[grim cedar]

The moment Metal Sonic Show up, Did you guys thought at that moment that Silver would show up, Because the way Metal shows up is almost terminator esqued.

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lmfaoooo

[wind trout]

lmao

[pale basin]

Actually you know what

[slate gate]

Honestly my biggest left field moment

[pale basin]

Nah hold up

[slate gate]

I think Amy is replacing Blaze

[pale basin]

I got soemthing

[slate gate]

It’ll be silver and Amy from the future

[pale basin]

What does bro have left if no iblis or time travel

[grim cedar]

We can expect another trilogy, and other characters will show up in 5 and 6

[pale basin]

What if Silver is being in charge of time traveler while he sent Amy on a mission to stop metal sonic and find the "one" (Sonic no duh) to prevent from happening?

Since I do remember certain time travel story do that too

[grim cedar]

If they treat Silver as some kind of Timelord.

[pale basin]

Yeah exactly

[strong basin]

He’s just that cool

[strong basin]

Kinda like Trunks in Xenoverse 2 then. Where he works for the Time Patrol

[pale basin]

That would put him on the backburner imo. Him being put into a leader role from the start would limit his focus since Amy is the main one doing the mission

Then say your idea then bro

[grim cedar]

Now that we seen the movie, The other actors who were cast, Like that one actor, Forgot his name, But he was in the last Venom movie, I didn't expect him t o be part of a Novela.

[pale basin]

I only say mine just for another idea with Silver 💀

[pale basin]

I don't have one, lowkey I think Silver's chance in the movies is leaving him. Alternative, he just gets in as an ordinary friendly hedgehog and him and Amy swap roles essentially. Silver fans would be pissed, but I mean the movies are doing their own thing

Well obviously yeah. I am more leaning saving him for sonic 5 anyways

[grim cedar]

They can bring Silver in some unique way, It doesn't have to follow his game origin to a t, From what we learn with this movie

[pale basin]

^

[light scarab]

do you guys think they filmed the panning shot from the storyboard leak or was it already removed by the time of filming

[grim cedar]

Shadow's origin is so different from the games, But acceptable because of how grounded these movies are, They aren't going to adapt some of the more crazier stuff

[pale basin]

I know it doesn't have to follow his game origin and with what they've done with knuckles backstory and potentially Amy's too, like

His origin will have to be original at this point

[grim cedar]

They all come from a planet, So Silver will be coming from that same planet, Maybe from present day, But who knows

[hybrid mirage]

fuck silver

Need Blaze instead

[kind scarab]

Drew you know damn well this franchise is doing their best to replace Blaze with Amy, starting with the DC stuff

[hybrid mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-chokes-choking-ada-wong-gif-26380793

[kind scarab]

You can choke me but you know im tellimg the truth

By changing amy they also are removing any chance blaze will be relevant ever again

What do you expect, 2 competent strong girls

Ha

No

[nocturne falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/ignited-bonnie-the-joy-of-creation-bonnie-punch-five-nights-at-freddy's-gif-10972006532643376786

[kind scarab]

They just need one

[drifting hawk]

I think you’re being too cynical henry

I think Blaze will get her chance

[kind scarab]

I sure hope so

[drifting hawk]

soon ™️

[pale basin]

Actually yes, do I need to bring up my bazillion arguments of cream being replaced because they want two kick butt action girls and blaze is in another dimension which is why they kept trying to push rouge and make a billion girls in idw

[drifting hawk]

anyways amy in sonic 3

2027 year of amy

sonic x amy lost world

[kind scarab]

We already had that

[drifting hawk]

let’s go baby

[pale basin]

Year of Amy 2

So good they do it twice

[kind scarab]

They kinda do but also dont

[drifting hawk]

Ok but we need the character turn around like shadow

Because I cannot take it anymore ‼️

[kind scarab]

We need Blaze to shine

She is so cool

[pale basin]

I expect year of metal more so

Since Amy already has her year

[drifting hawk]

hm

honest to god

I’d also be fine with that

[pale basin]

Amy may be part of the core cast, but Metal Sonic despite his treatment in main series still is one of the more recurring sonic chars

[drifting hawk]

make Metal Sonic cool again

[pale basin]

they don't but they think they do but not in the way you want cause they don't want to go over the caveat of blaze's dimension

next movie should be instead FINALLY actually using metal sonic in main series again

[kind scarab]

True but do it anyways

[pale basin]

Because this char has 0 reason to just barely appear. Especially with Sage

[drifting hawk]

Junkie XL Sonic 4 soundtrack but instead of live and learn motifs it’s “hue hue hue”

[pale basin]

Actually you know what?

I can legit see some sonic 4 episode 1/2 but more so with Metal Sonic

[pale basin]

Hue hue hue but it happens every time metal is on screen like the sax with rouge in sonic x

with that sudden power up, the erm... kygore ship, and such

[drifting hawk]

this is just metal in mania adventures

[pale basin]

well some aspect of this I guess lmao

[vernal bridge]

I do wonder if movie 4 main leitmotif will be Stardust Speedway or What Im Made Of

[pale basin]

Where one of the metal sonics chasing after the tornado

That is a good question

[drifting hawk]

bad ending: he picks the us version instead

[pale basin]

Because both of them are the most recognizable themes for metal sonic

Honestly I am fine with that

I feel like the US version fits metal sonic way more

[drifting hawk]

But it’s not the iconic one

So i no no want

[pale basin]

true

😔

But we get what I'm made of so

So I guess essentially a soul for a soul lmao

With the way live and learn is scattered throughout the movie, it really felt like junkie was trying to ensure we got our fix so we'd stop bitching

Actually you know what?

[strong basin]

Make Sonic 4 a 2 parter plz

Do the funny Paramount

[pale basin]

We may probably get what i'm made of due to possible heroes remake

Since that is still getting rumored

Helps that Heroes is one of the major Metal Sonic roles

[kind scarab]

He did, really well lemme tell ya

[pale basin]

Tbh I wasn't expecting we'd even get to hear vocals so that was nice

[weary crystal]

Do not make Sonic 4 a 2-parter

Good grief

[kind scarab]

Honestly i feel people who wanted mario movie tier soundtrack were delulu af

And i dont think that would be even... good

[drifting hawk]

tobias what are you talking about

[pale basin]

Nah I am sure it's a joke tobe but yeah I Doubt we'll get that

Especially with both Amy and Metal

[nocturne falcon]

Better yet make it a series. Picture it, Sonic 4 episode 1, episode 2

[pale basin]

Not trying to slander them but.... they are not meant for 2 parters

💀

[weary crystal]

Make it 1 episode

[pale basin]

Closest you can say is Shadow

[nocturne falcon]

Then the fabled sonic 4 episode 3 😂

[weary crystal]

Diminishing returns will kill it

[kind scarab]

Then Sonic 5 is sonic mania

[pale basin]

This is how we get the phantom ruby in

[grim cedar]

We also heard that Piano rendition of Green Hills again

[drifting hawk]

who the FUCK cares about green hill

😡

[grand kiln]

That first live and learn in the opening minutes feels like Junkie heard all the people talking about the drowning theme in sonic 2 and was like alright I’ll show them

[weary crystal]

Tbh these movies are showing how 90s sega evolved from making video game stories to potential stories that could work as movies

Then they regressed to not doing that

[feral path]

flashback to when SEGA attempted to make a Sonic film in the 90s

[winter spruce]

as I was saying in the other thread, I'm going to try to take my friend to see Sonic 3 to the cinema because of Stobotnik, we like LGBT stories so even though he's not a fan he might watch it lol, he saw the other 2 but he watched them at home

[plush forge]

chill bro just pre, order it and wait trust the wait won’t be that long😭😭😭

[winter spruce]

I hope it's a long wait because this movie needs to make tons of money tbh

[plush forge]

nah uh

they’ll make more sails from the digital release I feel, especially since it didn’t release everywhere at the same time

also it prob already made more on opening day compared to Mufasa( that might be a but of stretch I’m not even sure myself)

[charred wharf]

The digital release tend to get just as much money as the domestic

[plush forge]

from Forbes

[weary crystal]

Probably they will wait till 31st

[plush forge]

and this is insane, I'm def buying this when it releases

[plush forge]

probably

gosh I need more sonic movie content

[strong basin]

Bro I legit got chills when Sonic said “talk about low budget flights” then Neon started playing

“Revenge Guac”
-Shadow The Hedgehog (2024)

[plush forge]

that sound so yummers I’mma have to make some fr

[tall linden]

me when live and learn kicked in

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-energy-galaxy-gif-17739196

GIVE US A FULL VERSION COWARDS

IT'S TOO PEAK TO ONLY BE 50 SECONDS

[strong basin]

It’s also in “E.G.G.M.E.N.”

[tall linden]

yeah I know that, but I mean like a full version with lyrics and everything

[strong basin]

https://fixupx.com/leroikimmer/status/1870314273106227393?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[drifting hawk]

Is this gonna be the contentious point people argue about i wonder

[grim cedar]

There was a joke they did in the movie that was so meta, When Ivo sees Gerald, and commenting how he looks like him, And saying its like we're both played by the same actor in a movie.

[kind scarab]

Absolutely

[strong basin]

I honestly don’t mind the cut away from the supers

Imo it’s just a tonal whiplash

[drifting hawk]

i would say tonal whiplash is not desireable

i'd be lying if i said it didn't take me out of it at least a little bit

[kind scarab]

Yea

[drifting hawk]

That said tho

[kind scarab]

It is a lame transition since we just had one of the most peak moments ever in this series

[drifting hawk]

I wasn’t miserable about it because I did genuinely find it funny

Gerald pulling out the mini jet pack whipped me the fuck out I’ll be honest

[strong basin]

Agreed

[drifting hawk]

I could probably do without the spanking though

[strong basin]

It got a chuckle out of me honestly

[void stream]

two days into the official release sonic fans are already proving that theyre terrible at keeping secrets very cool 😭

[pale basin]

….

i laughed

[void stream]

i laughed but i was ashamed

[worn topaz]

That's the one time I kinda groaned myself

[pale basin]

and so did most of the theater audience

[strong basin]

https://tenor.com/view/kruithne-sonic-jim-carrey-eggman-lack-of-surprise-gif-25508838

[tawdry rune]

||We are so back Amy & Metal Fans||

[worn topaz]

if it was paced differently, I probably would've minded it less, but it's kinda like the final hit in Time Eater bossfight in Sonic Generations

Where it starts with a Live and Learn riff only to go to the Sonic 4 theme

[pale basin]

the constant tonal whiplash was noticeable but like it got two different types of positive reception outta me so it was enjoyable overall

[worn topaz]

Kinda felt like that, but at least it did change back to cool shit

[pale basin]

i thought gerald and eggman were mad funny

it’s peak
to
thats hilarious
to
it’s fucking peak

[void stream]

i think my only wish is that carrey was consistent with gerald's sheer anger after he reveals his master plan instead of leaning into his more goofy mannerisms

once we hit act 3 and the reveal is dropped it feels like he should go full serious to contrast the more goofy but still flabbergasted robotnik

[drifting hawk]

I guess

[pale basin]

i’m not sure i agree, i think it was pretty obvious he was playing up the goofy act to swindle and disrespect eggman and at the end of the day, it’s not supposed to be game accurate gerald

i could still tell he was a bastard and that “you’re no maria” was cold as hell
and him basically trying to suicide bomb the planet

like throughout the movie they gave enough hints that he didn’t actually have his full heart in what he did with eggman and was just doing it to use him

[grim cedar]

You know that song that plays during the Ivo and Gerald dancing scene with the lasers? I only heard that song through commercials on TV, I didn't know it was by The Chemical Brothers, I have one of there albums. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu3FTEmN-eg

[pale basin]

i dunno, jim carrey did jim carrey things and gave adults with their kids something to laugh at while also doing enough that stuck the landing as a character by the end imo

[drifting hawk]

what is this dude’s boner for sonic 2 😭

[pale basin]

this dude is so predictable, i already saw this thumbnail in a dream

[kind scarab]

You know when someone is so entitled to their opinions from a mile away

That literally nothing changes the insanely predictable results of how much they enjoy something

[drifting hawk]

i mean my intention wasn’t allat i just think premy is funny

[plush forge]

oh gosh I'm afraid to watch this( bro is trying so hard to be different)

[kind scarab]

I know

[drifting hawk]

why’d you post the exact thing i did

[pale basin]

why is the thumbnail different

[plush forge]

wait wtf

[kind scarab]

Is the next change gonna be hin facing the right

[plush forge]

didn't even see that u posted it lol

[drifting hawk]

uh huh,,,

[plush forge]

literally on my home page rn

[pale basin]

how to screen cast iphone on pc

[drifting hawk]

did you figure out how to screen cast ur iphone

[plush forge]

no clue lol

there are methods, but they require 3rd parts apps that u have to play for

no actual offical method

[plush forge]

oh shit

I was in call with a friend

never closed the browser lol

[pale basin]

Well I’ll applaud him something

Not using ai as a thumbnail

[plush forge]

for once lol

also @pale basin I fiured it out lol

thx for the reminder

[strong basin]

https://x.com/stixstixy/status/1870324276932509924?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Stix (SLOTS FULL) (@Stixstixy) on X

Twitter · Dec 21, 2024, 4:23 AM

[pale basin]

https://x.com/shift_312/status/1830762806032941127?s=46&t=hEzBjG7J1D3FOfKF1hrb8g 💀

✨christmas shift✨|| COMMS OPEN|| (@Shift_312) on X

This is the end of sonic 3 btw my dad owns paramount
#Sonic3
#sonadow

Twitter · Sep 3, 2024, 12:20 AM

[strong basin]

Fr it is

[kind scarab]

THIS IS LITERALLY THE CASE WHAT

[worn topaz]

https://bskyx.app/profile/notsweetdandy.bsky.social/post/3ldrosqh4bc2b oh this is kinda cool

[kind scarab]

Can my theater do this???

[feral path]

My theater has been doing commercials for local businesses since 2011

WHY IS THIS THEATER PLAYING THE PAKISTAN MCDONALD’S COMMERCIAL?!

[pale basin]

shadow basketball

[wind trout]

I’M FUCKING BALLING

[grim cedar]

Has anyone done a Sonic 3 spoilers out of context post?

[hybrid mirage]

Many have

[grim cedar]

I have two ideas

[nocturne falcon]

fucking dammit

[grim cedar]

Amy and Metal Sonic

[odd grotto]

oh this meme format aged like fine wine

[nocturne falcon]

I could handle some tonal whiplash from jokes but not for live and learn 😭

[pale basin]

Finally someone pointed out lmao

[hybrid mirage]

That isn't out of context at all

Like dawg

[pale basin]

I didn’t wanted to say it till now

[hybrid mirage]

Subtlety

[odd grotto]

like I guess maybe the theme didn't play long enough or some can argue it wasn't "earned"
but I fw it

like holy shit we got the vocals too

definitely didn't expect a bit of it to also play early in the film during the prison scene

[grim cedar]

In Sonic Movie 4, I could see some jokes about Thor directed at Amy.

[nocturne falcon]

Don't give them ideas...

[hybrid mirage]

[slate gate]

[wind trout]

[feral path]

[odd grotto]

[late jewel]

[grim cedar]

||https://fixvx.com/ADudcenkov26675/status/1870615964514951512||

[void stream]

me when i see a rabbit: S-SONIC REFERENCE??

[slate gate]

💀💀💀

[grim cedar]

With Metal Sonic being in Sonic Movie 4, Do you think they will take some stuff from the Sonic OVA?

[odd grotto]

i can probably see an obvious line getting pulled

[wind trout]

“It’s like they’re exact copies of one another, strange, isn’t it?”

[ivory grotto]

Sonic 4 will most likely take elements from Sonic CD, OVA, and the Metallix arc from the Fleetway comics

[grim cedar]

There's a point in the Sonic OVA, Where Metal Sonic saves some people and sacrifices himself

This is when Sonic realizes that Metal Sonic does have emotions

[ivory grotto]

from the OVA, we'll probably get the "STRANGE ISNT IT" line from Sonic and an Old Man Owl easter egg

I dunno how I feel about Metal Sonic sacrificing himself in movie 4, it'll retread on the ending of 3

[wind trout]

this was on Reddit in a Mufasa showing btw

not even the king of the pride lands can take down the ultimate lifeform and his good friend Sonic of Hedgehog

[odd grotto]

oh shit I didn't realize they could actually probably stuff Old Man Owl into this

[kind scarab]

Omg

They could

[wind trout]

STLO

[kind scarab]

Old Man Owl is Amys master

[wind trout]

Sonic: The Last Owl (I am not sorry)

[strong basin]

Listening the song they used for the Maria and Shadow montage again… I’m legit tearing up listening to it

One of my favorite scenes in the film

[solid bobcat]

I know its being framed as a "vs sonic thing" but people being this disenchanted by Disney material is kinda wild?

Their whole buisness is selling you this friendly nostalgic image, and feels like people care less and less these days
Feels like the 90's/early 00's

[wind trout]

just a prime example of Disney being washed and Shadow bringing in the money

[ivory grotto]

a live action movie about Sonic the Hedgehog is more entertaining to watch than a movie about real-life lions

[wind trout]

It’s time to go round 2 with the Blue and Black (and red)

[tall linden]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-basketball-dunk-happy-meal-gif-17463616

[grim cedar]

Someone created an animation of the post credit scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZA7Kf4cQf8

[wind trout]

Oh that’s cool

[grim cedar]

I wonder if Movie 4 will do a version of Amy's theme

the bit at the end of this video uses Amy's theme from SA1

[weary crystal]

Papayas

[solid bobcat]

i fundamentally agree with the sentiment. But i've felt that way about quite a few disney movies and people historically went to see them in droves

that first lion king did really well,

[solid bobcat]

so its still suprising

I was having a conversation with a friend about this movie

we reached the conclusion that we don't know what they even do with shadow after this point in the films

the reframing of aspects of his character while satisfying don't leave much for him to go

[void stream]

didnt moana 2 make like a billion dollars as well

[slate gate]

Honestly, the best course of action is to do a spin-off movie

That’s logically the next step for shadow

He doesn’t really fit into the main movie verse as of rn

[solid bobcat]

Sure, but for what?

I guess his dad, fighting his dad

[wind trout]

Maybe him adapting to Earth and what they do now?

[solid bobcat]

As much as I enjoy film shadow's take on the character, film shadow is just... a guy

he's not an experiment, he doesn't have an complexes about that. He's just... a sad dude

I guess he could be an alien sad dude, but he is... a sad dude

[feral path]

$726.4 million USD currently

[solid bobcat]

And now he understands he he can't take things out on people and was being manipulated by a very evil man when he needed emotional support. That's just...kinda closure

[nocturne falcon]

Well he's got to find new purpose now

[solid bobcat]

in a way game shadow never really got? Or can't ever because he's a science experiment

[nocturne falcon]

that's a whole thing right there

[slate gate]

Honestly could explore his relationship of his past and his stuff with GUN

u can easily introduce Omega here too

[solid bobcat]

he doesn't remember his past yeah

he was found in a meteor

there's a whole potential there you are right

[wind trout]

Agreed, plus you can bring in Omega as well as have him adapt to Earth since he was locked up for 50 years ago

[nocturne falcon]

now that he isn't a science experiment I wonder how they're gonna justify his appearance

[slate gate]

Shadow or omega?

With omega u can do it very easily

[nocturne falcon]

they just kinda leave the fact that him and sonic looking alike alone

[slate gate]

Just make him a protocol against shadow made by gun

[wind trout]

Shadow adapting to Earth and what the world does now

[solid bobcat]

I don't know if that's particularly interesting in the concept of what i know about movie shadow as of currently? They could swing it where its intresting. They made me care about film ivo anything is possible. But in the games, him findng his own path meant a lot more because he was a science experiment

[slate gate]

If shadow ever went rogue, you have omega to stop him

[wind trout]

Living the life that he never thought he could live due to him being an alien

[slate gate]

They’ll def try to explore his past

And ngl

They might give him some slight amnesia

[nocturne falcon]

Well there is the whole fact he doesn't even know where he comes from. as far as he knows he doesn't really have a home

[solid bobcat]

But again, we working off limited info, maybe the story they got cooked up is gass

this one was

[slate gate]

Def think he forgot his name at the end events of sonic 3

But isn’t filled with vengeance

He feels a sort of calmness but he doesn’t understand why

[solid bobcat]

That's the thing as of currently I don't know if this shadow similar to the game one cares all that much? But again, this is a very different character in a different situation right? With tbh different motivations that will likely change things in the writing

[nocturne falcon]

Like maybe the black arms of the movie universe based him off of sonic instead of gerald doing so or something. considering sonic's whole place in the movies

[slate gate]

I still think they both stem from one major concept

Not knowing their past

[solid bobcat]

There was a lot of exitential weirdness that sort of drove shadow or rather let shadow operate on auto pilot as a character that doesn't exist with this shadow *

• as of currently

So i dunno, interesting to think about though

[slate gate]

This shadow is a bit weird tho

He’s a lot more “buddy-buddy” with sonic

[solid bobcat]

Yeah he's just....to b equite blunt

angsty superman

what if instead of two kansas people , mean scientists found him

[slate gate]

It was sorta weird that he was completely fine and doing fun banter with sonic

So idk how this would play out if he doesn’t have some sort of amnesia

[solid bobcat]

It was weird, but i get it. He stopped being commited

Earlier in the film

Though it is ...strange

this film maybe needed more time i dunno

[nocturne falcon]

that's just a given tbh

[slate gate]

Like if he doesn’t have some sort of memory loss, how is he gonna act with sonic now?

Just a friend when the time needs it?

[solid bobcat]

That's the thing to?

Their animosity in the games is driven by shadow being extramely dangerous and very different person

[slate gate]

^^^

He’s a character that dislikes Sonic but respects him

[solid bobcat]

I know people dislike prime , but its a good example

[slate gate]

Anything he does he wants it his way

But this shadow

Is like

Cool with sonic???

[solid bobcat]

Like shadow was willing to possibly murder dimensions full of people to restore earth in that show

that comes with a difference of perspective this shadow...lacks

[wind trout]

Probably considering he made jokes with him in 3

when they both turn super

[ivory grotto]

I mean
Shadow can still dislike or be irritated by movie Sonic without losing his memories
the latter can just yammer on too much and tha'll be enough to annoy him

[slate gate]

If they want shadow to be the same angsty and straightforward character he’s gotta have some sort of amnesia imo

Or a way to forget the final moments in 3

[slate gate]

But he was fine with his yapping tho

He was yapping with him 😭

[solid bobcat]

I don't think he needs amnsesia , i think the conceit of their agressiveness towards eachother needs to be different

[ivory grotto]

for now

[solid bobcat]

Now , if their cool

They could do a reverse this movie

where shadow is made to be a darker character because he has to kill his dad

like there's no choices , there's no options he has to do it

[slate gate]

But he would def would be fine with it if his dad was evil

And threatened humanity

[solid bobcat]

See her's the thing

This shadow i can buy , wanting a family of some sort

[slate gate]

Gerald was a psuedo father to him tho too

[solid bobcat]

And if like

[slate gate]

And he didn’t give af if Gerald blipped outta existence

[solid bobcat]

He might care more about that later, but that's a good point

I can just kinda see this shadow , being like "maybe i can learn more about myself " being interested in that

[wind trout]

LIVE AND LEARN TIME BABY

[solid bobcat]

Game shadow cares, but its for a disdain for himself

He feels like he's a mistake that shouldn't be repeated, a long with this being informative

Film shadow, gets actively upset at the idea of sonic having this thing he was not allowed to have

This is a character unlike his game counter part desires sometihng resembling a family, and if say an eldrich horror came from the depths of space like " hey i'm your dad, its me satan" he might be into it

[ivory grotto]

time for movie Shadow to live with Rachel and Randell

[slate gate]

That’s the thing tho, would he? I feel like the closest he saw a person as family was Maria, someone as nice as her

If he sees an alien coming down wanting to destroy the world, he’s not gonna vibe with that

[wind trout]

my pants are spoiled again

[slate gate]

And remember too, he was scared to call himself an alien

Because people feared him

[ivory grotto]

actually, I could see Shadow stay with Agent Stone

dude is lonely without Robotnik

[solid bobcat]

Depends, but honestly maybe? Lets say he's a live right? He's probably alone , doesn't really know where he is. As you said people feared him etc. But heres this guy maybe he also knows chaos stuff, maybe he knows details about shadow's life no one else knows. Maybe he knows details shadow didn't know about himself. Maybe he says the right things , shadow's in a bad place right now right? Likely regretful, likely still angry at the world about what was taken from him.

Shadow in the film kinda touches on something the games don't do much off

he's an abused child

[slate gate]

Ok I can def see him going to the alien for his powers and questions about his life

[solid bobcat]

The right guy saying the right things can come in and take advantage of that

[slate gate]

I def don’t think he’ll see him as a father figure tho

[solid bobcat]

Especially if, he's his litteral dad

[wind trout]

Yea he more than likely won’t

[solid bobcat]

I think ultimately shadow will end up alone, but he will be confortable being alone

[solid bobcat]

i don't know. I don't think you all are considering how much of a hurt child he is

[wind trout]

I’d like if he was alone, but whenever he needs assistance, he knows he can rely on Team Sonic to help him with whatever he needs

[solid bobcat]

more so than his game counterpart

[ivory grotto]

movie Shadow didnt seem like the kind of guy to long for a father figure

[solid bobcat]

People are complicated

Movie shadow reminds me a lot of zuko in some ways. Its not about longing for a father figure, sometimes there's a desire for something

He's not going to be like " Where is my papa, i desire the porridge " or whatever

but if his dad shows up and is cool, he will likely be succeptible to that

he has trust issues, and is a hurt abused child

I do not see an alien man coming through and saying the right things being a potential danger to be a crazy stretch

Film shadow does not have the mental fortitude to just shrug that off like th egame one does i feel

[ivory grotto]

alien father could say the right things
but for thier words to work requires movie Shadow to be naive

[wind trout]

Which he is not

[ivory grotto]

exactly

[wind trout]

at least I think so

[solid bobcat]

isn't he?

to buy into this entire scheme requires a lack of understanding about the world and its value

[wind trout]

Yea he isn’t. Gerald only managed to get him to do the wrong thing because he was the first face he recognized in a long time and he thought since Gerald was Maria’s relative, Gerald would know what Maria wanted

[solid bobcat]

in the games, he needed to be brainwashed to participate

[hard spoke]

||Rose gold super shadow looks really cool :)||

[solid bobcat]

you have litterally just said my argument

Black doom: "you have nothing here is something"
Shadow: "OH!"

he's a hurt child that has nothinga and no one , he is not game shadow especially late game shadow where he's making very good character reads about people to the degree in which that ability is a plot point in multiple pieces of media

He's not a science experiment ( as far as we know ) that was born, kind of a n adult. He's ...a teen

he has very limited life experience, he is inherently naive

[ivory grotto]

he did a good character read on Sonic even though he's a hurt hedgehog

guy figured out Sonic left his friends behind to come after him for revenge

[solid bobcat]

That's fair, but I would argue its easy to empathize and see yourself in a person. Especially if you are kinda giving up and are on a self destructive path

[ivory grotto]

yeah
wel'll see when he meets Black Doom eventually (or an original character who fulfills this role), this will depend if Shadow is desperate enough to seek answers about his origins

[solid bobcat]

all the other characters there are aspects where the film versions can influence the game characters, shadow is so different that I don't think he can. Its funny actually

[ivory grotto]

could also add lore to Sonic's origin potentially
we got two super speed hedgehogs who resemble each other in-universe and both came from different worlds in space

[solid bobcat]

IIRC information that came out during the boom days suggested that sonic team didn't allow them to give sonic an origin because hey wante dto make one themselves. I wonder if they are still dead set on that

[ivory grotto]

I 100% believe that will never happen from Sonic Team, so far they want to keep Sonic's origon a mystery

Movie Sonic I feel is a different case because we already got his backstory to a degree

[solid bobcat]

and they don't really have control over that. The first film just kinda...happened

Now they are more invovled, but that's still at the behest of paramount giving a shit

And i'm sure that whomever who looks overy scripts likely has less notes or maybe even lacks the ability to give them

its a very different situation yeah

[ivory grotto]

back to Shadow, as of now he is written like a naive teenager so Black Doom showing up to tell him he is a part of the Black Arms race will be interesting

there will be some skepticism as he's been manipulated before by Gerald for sure

[solid bobcat]

excited to see what they come up with

WAIT

I have a conspiracy

[wind trout]

what

what is it?

[grim cedar]

If they do a Shadow spinoff, It should be about him finding about where he came from, Because he crashed landed on earth in a meteor, And he doesn't even remember his past way before.

[solid bobcat]

What if x gens shadow is the way that he is because they had a understanding of what the plot was going to be and changes to shadows backstory and gave him black arms powers so they have things to use in the media where he fights black doom

What if its the first case of the games making something explicitly to be used in films later

[grim cedar]

Since Black Doom didn't factor into this movie, Maybe Black Doom can be part of the spinoff, And He is technically Shadow's father.

[solid bobcat]

I feel like he'll be in a later film or a spin off movie. alien invasion that threatens to overtake the entirety of the planet and almost does seems like a "event movie" kinda thing. Maybe they work their way to that. I feel the same about chaos

He said its not happening in this film

[wind trout]

yea I just realized I had a brain disconnect mb

[strong basin]

Fun fact! Neon by One Ok Rock is the 2nd song in Sonic media to have the F bomb in it

[wind trout]

When did that play?

[strong basin]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-knuckles-tails-sonic-sonic-3-gif-1097579584642807961

[wind trout]

ohhhh

cause I instantly thought it played during the Gerald/Eggman dance scene

[strong basin]

Wrong song lol

[weary crystal]

Ayoo

[snow glacier]

wow!!!

[wind trout]

run it run it run it til we running outta road

[lime silo]

now that brings the question

what to do once we're outta road? 🤔

[wind trout]

Force the government to make more road or we destroy the planet and piss on the moon

[lime silo]

sounds about right

https://tenor.com/view/robotnik-eggman-sonic-movie2-flossing-sonic-the-hedgehog2-gif-25598433

question

I realized, unless I forgot or something,
was there ever a reason Gerald needed Robotnik?

there were moments where Robotnik proved to be of use help, but did they specify why exactly Gerald needed him?
or did I just forget like a moron?

[wind trout]

He needed his technology to get to London using the giant Crabmeat, and to kill Commander Walters using Egg-Drones in the Chao Garden so Team Sonic would possess the first key to the Eclipse Cannon, and they could take it so they wouldn’t have to go after Commander Walters

But once Ivo had outlived his usefulness to Gerald, Gerald dismissed him with the remark ‘You’re no Maria.’

[lime silo]

I thought he said that to him when Robotnik mentioned not wanting to go along with the suicide plan anymore :0

[dire ferry]

As spotted by @light scarab, Picturemill has the credits up on their site:
https://picturemill.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-3-mains-on-end/

[hard spoke]

Oh yea also Eggman had Stone whip up the suits that made them invincible to the lasers

[light scarab]

woah that's me

[tall linden]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-i-really-hope-somebody-got-fired-for-that-under-nerd-genius-at-work-college-nerds-smart-ass-gif-20635550

[dire ferry]

They did this with the first two movies, it's normal.

[light scarab]

was about to say that, thanks astro

holy fuck wade whipple is typing???

[hard spoke]

:0

[light scarab]

what's up man i loved your scene in sonic 3

[hard spoke]

0:

[lime silo]

speaking which

ngl it felt kinda awkward seeing the title sequence jump cut to the end, after seeing the whole thing go off in past movies and the trailer

[lime silo]

Wade Whipple, as featured in Sonic the Hedgehog™️, Sonic the Hedgehog 2™️, Wade Whipple and His Good Friend Knuckles the Echidna™️, and Sonic the Hedgehog 3™️

[wind trout]

You misspelled WWAHGFKTE

[hard spoke]

That entire third act brought me back to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww0ecdhL6n8

[wind trout]

(Wade Whipple and His Good Friend Knuckles the Echidna)

[lime silo]

that was the title Paramount wanted to give, but they realized people wouldn't handle such a peak title

[snow glacier]

guys i love wade whipple

[tall linden]

https://tenor.com/view/wade-whipple-rainbow-knuckles-knuckleseries-knuckles-series-gif-7478233190364919637

[drifting hawk]

just do it man.

[lime silo]

he should've popped up and shoved that rainbow juice into Sonic so he can learn not to murder Shadow

[wind trout]

LMFAO

CAN WE PIN THIS

[late prairie]

Just got back from watching the movie

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-3-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-the-hedgehog-3-sonic-movie-sonic-movie-3-gif-7279210136152303251

[void stream]

its been ONE DAY

[hard spoke]

What gets me is the sound design😭

[late prairie]

I was not expecting him to die like that

[pale basin]

nah this shit had me cackling

[plush forge]

idk why I'm bringing this up now, but can we talk abt|| Shadow liking Latinas in the movie😭 || shit was genuinely hilarious and to think it was only a joke in the community

[hollow summit]

I genuinely can’t believe he died like that

My friend and i audibly gasped

[worn topaz]

oh my god, was that fuckass moment where Gerald had those fuckass scorpion claws and tail trying to be a reference to the boss of Toxic Caves in Spinball?

[late prairie]

His death was hilarious

[worn topaz]

huh (mid-credits spoiler)

[void stream]

what the fuck

That sonic retro juice must be tasty af because I don’t think any other film producer would be talking about post credits details like this two days after the release

[worn topaz]

I mean, we're talking Tyson Hesse here

iirc he was at Retro for much longer than he was involved with Sonic officially

[hollow summit]

Yeah

[lime silo]

https://vxtwitter.com/ChillaxinSonic/status/1870631130644324833

Latinas joke aside, it is pretty funny Shadow was legit invested in this telenovela

[late prairie]

Aside from Live and Learn. This might be my favorite track in the OST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqNoepK0Gg

[frozen flame]

https://fixupx.com/primetimeseven/status/1870629827696627882

[true heron]

AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY ZMT ZMY ZMTNAGLBTBLZTNOATNZTONZTONZTNTZNNA

N

Ranz

[pale basin]

oh somene in another server pointed this out. Is it me or Amy has pink arms like with Sonic having blue arms?

[worn topaz]

She does, yeah

[pale basin]

That's going to take a while to get used to lmao

[hard spoke]

the kitty when it steps all over the keyboard

https://tenor.com/view/aaa-gif-26709748

also im glad i didnt get that mid credits scene ruined for me for once :)

[vernal bridge]

Average Amy fan post

[true heron]

SHE LOOKS SO GOOD THOOOO

SHE OWNED THAT FRAUD

METAL FRAUDNIC

[fringe solar]

i feel sorry for metal fans lmaooooo

[true heron]

Also oh my god the fight between shadow and sonic ?

THE UPPERCUT

THE BLOCKING

[pale basin]

They are used to it

[true heron]

ANIME ENERGY

Obv i have a few problems with the movie

But the three main ones are

Too much jim carrey 😭

And the movie goes maybe a lil bit too fast

The shitty humour god... that mantis and scorpion battle ? Fuck off

Even tho, there was a couple of good jokes

[snow glacier]

not them just using the game model

zzzzzz

[solid bobcat]

most my issues stem from it feels like the film needed mmore time

and shadow doesn't feel ike much of anything in the film, and I don't know how to feel about that

its kind of a mess, a fun mess

which is better than the first two

[kind scarab]

Man
Shadow to me has never been better

I legit cannot agree

At all

[hybrid mirage]

God I can't understate how much I really dig the Robotniks' low poly models here along with Stone and giving him that Classic Eggman-esque grin. it's peam...

[solid bobcat]

He lacks the elements that make his game version compelling with nothing to replace them with. I enjoy the interpretation its different , but he lacks something

Theres an appeal there that his game version has that his film version doesn't. And here's the deal, they could just do...something different in the future that's just as good

But as the film presents as of currently by itsel, he lacks the things that makes his game version of menace. He's just a sad kid, and that's fun but they don't do much with that at all

[ivory grotto]

what does movie Shadow lack compared his gane version?

[kind scarab]

Hes different and has the possibility of loving his life

He doesnt lack anything for me

Hes just different

And i dont want Anything from game shadow thats "missing" on hom

[nocturne falcon]

I guess you could argue, the fact he isn't a genetically made creation anymore. Removing some contrast with sonic and also some character conflict for him

[solid bobcat]

Uh i'm not trying to make his super long

[nocturne falcon]

Which albeit you can make up for especially with his ties to black doom

[solid bobcat]

but succinctly, there is a distance between him and people

[kind scarab]

Who cares tho, shadow still could have been made by the black arms as a anti vwrsion of like sonic or something

[solid bobcat]

And how they think

[solid bobcat]

That's a part of it

[kind scarab]

What they lack in contrast they get in similar situations

[solid bobcat]

HIm bieng a science experiment in the games allowed him to be think differently han normal people

[kind scarab]

Yea i just cant agree... movie shadow rules

[solid bobcat]

his powerset what he was made him in a sense inhuman

and that part of him fought with the more " human" part

that was kind his internal conflict

[nocturne falcon]

There's also the fact that in some later games it's the other side of him, the part that isn't doom that is an integral part

[solid bobcat]

That's what makes gerald manipulating his brain worse,

In the films he's just, sad. And I like that

I like that a lot

he's a more understanding character

[pale basin]

I don't really agree because the main thing about the movieverse are complete different take

[solid bobcat]

They just don't do anything with that

[pale basin]

It makes the movie chars stand out very well compared to game cast

[solid bobcat]

because its 3 ilms shoved into eachother

This isn't me saying film shadow is fundamentally bad, i'm saying you don't get the greatest grasp on a poinnt of appeal

[nocturne falcon]

Changes are ok so long as they actually serve a good purpose within the story and aren't just, taking stuff away only to be different

[solid bobcat]

I don't mind softening up shadow, just you know it would like it to go a place

And it seems like that place is " See you in the shadow spin off thing "

And while i'm excited that's gonna happen, I have to judge the film for what it is and i feel like a lot of characters especially gerald

kinda just....occur

[kind scarab]

And i feel they perfectly intergrated shadow into the movie universe

I feel the big complain here is that hes not more like the games

[nocturne falcon]

Like, what purpose does Maria not being ill serve? Or not having them live on the ark? I really don't think in a post MCU world either of those things are jarring

[solid bobcat]

Sure, but i have to juedge it for what it is

And as it stands, there isn't a lot there

[nocturne falcon]

See that's only looking at things from a surface level. It's about what those elements mean and what they add

[solid bobcat]

he's depressed superman

and i fuck with that idea

but like you know , there was a whole jim carry christmas film shoved in there

[kind scarab]

Dude we NEVER KNEW SHE WAS ILL

FROM THE GAME ITSELF

why does that matter so much

[solid bobcat]

I'm not beat up over that but yeah those were weird. Those things and others felt like , at least to me conessesions to execs

[nocturne falcon]

Cause one it serves as part of Gerald's motivation to go into the project shadow research in the first place and 2, it just simply tugs on the heartstrings a little more

[solid bobcat]

Her being ill is one of the main things we know about her

and is why shadow feels so protective of her and why it hurts more when he fails

[nocturne falcon]

And now that we do know isn't that more reason to include it?

[solid bobcat]

Saying " This game from 2001 had bad story telling " doesn't negate the issues with the films presened

a dreamcast from 2001 should not be the baseline for anything

as much as i love soul calibur

[nocturne falcon]

And to be 100% clear. Change is fine, I hate that criticism of the changes is met with 'well you just want it to be more like the games'. When it is bigger than that

[solid bobcat]

Yeah change is cool

[nocturne falcon]

Not to say the original narratives are perfect but the elements were there for a reason

[solid bobcat]

Film knucles is just strait up better in allways than game knuckles

strait up

good change

i'm here for interpretations

[nocturne falcon]

Pretty much

[strong basin]

https://fixupx.com/creep_tch/status/1870638452548739089?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

[drifting hawk]

strokes me chin

interesting