#[SPOILERS] Sonic Movie 3

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worn topaz
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Which was also a bit of a slog

weary crystal
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Look I get what you are saying but you will not convince me because I literally watched the movie last week and genuinely

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For the first time

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I was like damn

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This is kind of a slog

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It was a little too goofy for me sometimes

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I think the scene where his teeth fall off was funny and some other ones

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The dance definitely made me go like

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Question how he can do that at that age

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More than anything lol

void stream
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when I realized in the lead up to the release that they were doing this I was a little confused and from what I heard the actual Rachel and Randall don’t show up at all do they

weary crystal
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Oh yeah and at the end when he has those mini jetpacks to chase Eggman that was hilarious

reef skiff
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I won't defend that bar dancing scene

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So dumb

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I just skip on rewatch

weary crystal
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The actors play the roles but they are Tom and Maddie impersonating them

weary crystal
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Pivonka yourself

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Also a little more about my experience

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I went to watch it with my girlfriend in a fairly more subdued set (there weren't many kids)

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So I kind of got a decent gauge on what a normal adult felt about it

weary crystal
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And to his credit

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She was extremely grossed out by Gerald lmao

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So fair play, worked as a cartoon villain

reef skiff
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There were kids at my theater everyone stayed silent outside laughs

weary crystal
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She also felt Sonic was too goofy for the movie

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Like always having to get his quips in

reef skiff
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I was holding the urge to clap my hands loudly at Maria death but I just grinned

weary crystal
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I made it a point to say he isn't like that in the games

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Eh idk if they did that at fan events

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Didn't feel right to do that

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I did have a thought that like

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Man this movie would work really well as a show lol

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With more time to do things

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For example the alliance with Eggman was so short lived

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The giant enemy crab hideout mech didn't get to fight anything

worn topaz
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I expected Sonic to be more quippy, I don't think I was as annoyed about him as I expected

feral path
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Cooking up the differences between the movie and the novelization right now

jovial plover
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Heyo saw the movie

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Liked it, though 2 may be my overall favorite

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Ironically what brought this one down for me was that the Jim Carrey scenes went on for too long imo, it felt kind of whiplash-ey with how much more serious the Shadow plot was

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The pacing felt kind of all over the place, but any scene with Shadow was fantastic

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Also. Honestly, did not like Gerald, he felt pretty barebones and carried a lot less gravitas compared to his game counterpart, especially considering we never even meet the latter

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His final speech before his death and the shot of him chained up and defeated is so iconic, but here he's just a goofy silly jerk? Like we barely even see him with Maria, we have nothing to compare his behavior to, for all we know he was always a jerk

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We know more about Walter for crying out loud

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So the reveal that he was going for the Earth's destruction hit me way less hard than I thought it should. Especially with them getting rid of the family relation between him and Shadow.

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I really want to like this, but that half of the movie really just drags it down for me. Anything with Shadow and Sonic was good though. I don't think there was a lack of setup for Shadow turning

drifting hawk
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FUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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anyways

feral path
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Here are, in my opinion, the notable differences between the film and the novelization.

  • ||Unlike the film, there is no scene with Shadow breaking out of the prison island in the novel (it is instead contained to a brief mention in the second chapter).||
  • ||Unlike the film, the novel goes into detail about Shadow damaging Shibuya Crossing in the second chapter (in the film, it’s only mentioned as “a giant fireball”).||
  • ||Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Rockwell talk with each other on the helicopter in the novel regarding trust (in the film, it’s mainly brief and just wanting to go straight into the action).||
  • ||The novel shows Shadow handcuffing Sonic to a top of a building, unlike the film, where it is implied he did.||
  • ||Commander Walters shows videos of Project Shadow to Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles from his laptop at the Chao Garden instead of it being shown through flashbacks.||
  • ||The meteorite is just mentioned as having crashed into Earth instead of Oklahoma.||
  • ||Knuckles mentions that he had watched La Última Pasión while he was in Reno (he does not mention this in the film).||
  • ||Gerald Robotnik answers a question about the SEGA Master System instead of the longest word in the English language.||
  • ||Tails and Knuckles also come to Green Hills with Sonic for the Master Emerald instead of just Sonic going alone.||

Funnily enough, ||they leave out the ending in the novel for people to watch the movie to see how it ends lol||

jovial plover
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Lol

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Man

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I wanna liiiike

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Hopefully my opinion will improve after a while, I want to fully go gaga over this movie so bad

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Doesn't help that in my showing the person behind us was having a larp session, talking out loud after every. Single. Line. Like she was a character in the movie 💀

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Really fucked with me and my friend's enjoyment

feral path
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So sorry to hear about that, Lovo. Hope you can find another showing that you can enjoy peacefully.

jovial plover
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Nah man I'm not paying another $10 for that

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But I'll enjoy the clips once they come out on Youtube

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Overall still a really good film

hybrid mirage
jovial plover
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Like you know those people who talk to their body pillows

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It was bizarre

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The scene where Sonic and Shadow were having a heartfelt conversation on the moon and I was like "awwww" only for my immersion to be broken by her loudly saying "YOU'RE NOT ALONE [SHADOW]"

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Literally after every single line

jovial plover
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She wouldn't shut up after being shushed either

wind trout
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yea that seems like a major distraction and I’m sorry u had to go thru that

weary crystal
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That would ruin any movie

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💀

hybrid mirage
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Murder is sometimes justifiable

wind trout
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Tbh if someone kept yelling behind me after every line I’d proudly and calmly say “CAN YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU CU-“

jovial plover
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I should watch it a second time, I'll probably enjoy it a lot more without a bitch in my ear trying to hype up her friend Sonikku-kun

jovial plover
mild fulcrum
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yeah i aint going back to the theatre

wind trout
mild fulcrum
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but i lowkey kinda wished i got the knux and tails keychains

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but also not too attached to those versions to go out of my way to get em either

hybrid mirage
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I am shocked that my experience was actually silent for once

wind trout
weary crystal
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If you come out of the theater and crowd antics were overshadowing the movie it's definitely a cause for a rewatch lmao

jovial plover
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Will do

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When I can

hybrid mirage
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Granted I went to a 4pm showing in the IMAX theater

mild fulcrum
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hearing everyones hype for the climax was nice

weary crystal
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My experience was silence because I deemed it so AYOOOO

wind trout
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Surprisingly mine was silent until Live and Learn kicked in

jovial plover
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The Sonadow people will definitely have fun with this movie lmao

hybrid mirage
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There was nobody behind me so I couldn't recreate the soyjak pointing meme when Super Sonic & Shadow showed up

mild fulcrum
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it aint like the average indian blockbuster hype, we treat it like its a goddamn festival

jovial plover
wind trout
mild fulcrum
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theyll deny it loool

wind trout
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At least I think

hybrid mirage
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My little brother also said when we left the theater that Sonic 3 is the best movie he's ever seen

jovial plover
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Awwwww

hybrid mirage
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I'm glad I took him opening night

wind trout
jovial plover
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Jim Carrey had a nice last hurrah as Eggman, even if it wasn't my cup of tea

hybrid mirage
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And I'm also glad that I bought him the ENTIRE 5 inch figure lineup lmao

jovial plover
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||I'm glad he and Stone made up before the end||

hybrid mirage
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So I now know he'll love it

hybrid mirage
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SO WHAT IS THE POINT

wind trout
jovial plover
wind trout
mild fulcrum
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||another mainstream media yaoibaiting its audience, tragic||

jovial plover
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Shadow handcuffing Sonic was not on my bingo card
Smooooooth

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I audibly gasped when he pinned him against the glass because I'm brainrot pain

wind trout
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they def tried baiting us with that scene

jovial plover
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And them smiling at each other??? Working seamlessly together while playfully snarking??? Yes this is my rivalry ma'am

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No notes for Shadow, he was perfect this movie

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Keanu did a good job

wind trout
hybrid mirage
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Robotnik talking about how Stone should be tying himself up on his own time like huhhhhhhh

wind trout
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Like when he said “don’t tell me, you’ve got a catchphrase” I was about to cry

wind trout
jovial plover
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Nah man they were on that "now you understand me" type shit that's wild

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Henry will be happy

wind trout
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tho I do enjoy how Eggman is so pissed to the point where he says damn multiple times even tho one of those should have gone to Shadow

pale basin
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Once it’s at digital

wind trout
solid bobcat
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So can we talk about something

vivid totem
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Im getting the physical blu ray day one

pale basin
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It’s more that I can’t go to theaters anymore

hybrid mirage
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Tom disguising as Randall

vivid totem
solid bobcat
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|| they said no black arms stuff but that meteor kinda felt like set up for the premise||

wind trout
pale basin
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My parents are more retired and my brother has work going on

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While for me I have no one to go with

wind trout
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Ohhh

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Yea makes sense, but going by urself is probably the best because u get to hog all the popcorn

vivid totem
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Farts

wind trout
pale basin
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I just dislike going alone in public

vivid totem
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LMAOOOOOOO

wind trout
wind trout
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“Sinner Sundays” oh fuck

hybrid mirage
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Parody account btw

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But still funny af

pale basin
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Oh yeah I forgot to ask

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How is tails and knuckles treatment in this movie?

hybrid mirage
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Tails is actually a character

pale basin
hybrid mirage
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Doesn't say anything close to "ONLY SONIC THE HEDGEHOG COULD orchestrate the attack on the pentagon"

pale basin
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Oh thank god

jovial plover
pale basin
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Looking forward to it once digital happens

jovial plover
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||When he and Sonic are about to come to blows over using the Master Emerald and he's the one to back down and reaffirm his trust, that honestly hit me
The Knuckles from before would never have||

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||And also you know saving Sonic and Tails from the ultimate Shadow cosplay (falling from orbit)||

pale basin
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||brooooo that’s so good! Movie really has the best knuckles.really makes me hope for sa1 adaptation to further fulfill his closure||

wind trout
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||yea tbh they cooked with knuckles here||

strong basin
worn topaz
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|| Oh yeah, he never actually said that. Huh ||

strong basin
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Nope never

drifting hawk
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Okay I’m back

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I’ve recovered

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Not gonna be here long buuuuut I had a lot of fun with that

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Ironically this is the one film in the series where I felt like there was a little too much jim carrey?

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but I didn’t think any of it was bad and I’ve seen other people get a kick out of it so whatever

jovial plover
drifting hawk
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Ahh

odd grotto
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like it's not perfect but relative to the movies, I honestly enjoyed it the most

drifting hawk
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I didn’t dislike it

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But the only time it got in the way

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||Is when super sonic and super shadow were boxing and it’d just keep cutting back to their shenanigans ||

odd grotto
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maybe it just scratched my brain right with some of the fanscervice ||like the Super fight for those seconds looked intense af||

drifting hawk
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||Like even in sonic 2 they’d let the sonic and knuckles fight play out completely, but they just kept cutting back and forth, it was a bit jarring||

odd grotto
drifting hawk
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I feel like the faster pacing definitely made the film feel more disjointed

jovial plover
drifting hawk
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YEAH

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I will say

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I think they handled the gerald switch up very well

jovial plover
drifting hawk
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Another minor issue I have

jovial plover
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I really did not like Gerald, he was my least favorite part of the movie by far

drifting hawk
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I think shadow turned good too quickly? 😭

jovial plover
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I think the movie could have benefited from like
10 minutes of extra runtime
And maybe more Maria

drifting hawk
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||Like 5 seconds earlier they’re punching the shit out of each other and the next they’re flying and making banter||

odd grotto
# jovial plover ||not serious enough to me tbh||

||understandable but I guess I just don't expect these films to really ever un-ham the robotniks
but also didn't mind him too much in this iteration, though would've been rad if he was as fucked up as in SA2||

drifting hawk
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But yeah this is about what I expected out of a movie-verse adaptation at SA2

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And they handled it better than I thought they would tbh

odd grotto
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||was not expecting actual GUN robots.. my beloved||

drifting hawk
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I think I need to sit down and watch this again at my own leisure

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To get my own thoughts in order without letting the hype get to my head

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Because all of the action in this movie is genuinely amazing imo

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Like my head hurts from how much I screamed 😭

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Oh YEAH post credits

odd grotto
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definitely not my movie of all time lmfaoo but I think it's probably the best in the sonic trilogy

jovial plover
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Man I'm so glad I was legit afraid of all the Deadly Six jokes

odd grotto
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a deadly reveal..

drifting hawk
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I freaked the FUCK out

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||Metal Sonic is literally just his normal design so ofc he looks good||

odd grotto
drifting hawk
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But YEAH

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||SHE HAS THE CLOAK||

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I was so surprised

pale basin
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||Metal Sonic stays winning when it comes to no changes lmao||

jovial plover
drifting hawk
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They knew 😭😭

jovial plover
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||I just hope she actually feels like Amy and not...Movie Peach V2||

pale basin
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||also METAL SONIC HAS A ARM CANNON||

odd grotto
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||still dunno how she'll be like but hopefully she'll be good
interesting hammer I'll say||

pale basin
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||LET THAT SHIT BE IN MAIN SERIES!||

drifting hawk
hard spoke
drifting hawk
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But everyone has been good so far (debatably sonic ig)

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But I have faith

hard spoke
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||funny how I semi predicted it||

pale basin
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||yeah I’ll wait and see over amy||

drifting hawk
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Speaking of sonic

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Let’s be real he’s not gonna become a completely different character

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But I was pleasantly surprised

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I think he was pretty good here

pale basin
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I’m fine with that because I always love movie sonic

drifting hawk
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I don’t love him but I was always fine with him

pale basin
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But that’s just my opinion lmao

hard spoke
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I don’t mind movie sonic personally

drifting hawk
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But this was definitely him at his best

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Like I don’t think there was any moment where he really came off as annoying to me

hard spoke
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I do prefer game sonic, but movie sonic is a decent adaptation and still feels like the character I enjoy

odd grotto
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I tolerate movie sonic
sometimes he's cool, a good chunk I'm just like ok

drifting hawk
odd grotto
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but I don't really care since that's its own thing

drifting hawk
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Well yeah I mean judging it as its own thing

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I think he’s good here

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||When he gets pissed off and has the argument with tails and knuckles, that was great||

odd grotto
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as its own thing I could probably like it more but hopefully he continues to grow more
I just meant like I don't put too much stake into how he's or how I'd prefer him since it has no effect on the games afaik

jovial plover
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I've always had a fondness for Movie Sonic and I think all his development really shines in this movie

drifting hawk
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||Like I’m not a fan of third act break ups too often but I love how you could feel how genuinely pissed off he was||

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Props to ben for his voice acting and ofc the vfx team

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Also funny thing

jovial plover
drifting hawk
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||The scene of Tom yelling Sonic was just kind of a gag scene with the panel floor and I was like “oops guess they were wrong Tom’s not dead after all lmao”||

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||And he gets clocked IMMEDIATELY in the next scene||

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😭

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I think the parallel between Sonic and Shadow was also really good

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||Their talk on the moon was also great||

odd grotto
jovial plover
drifting hawk
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I honestly think I liked Tom and Maddie (the “boring” human characters) more than the gerald dance scene 💀

odd grotto
jovial plover
drifting hawk
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Yeah

hard spoke
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Oh yea also is it just me, or does it feel like tails gets to do more than he did in sonic 2?

drifting hawk
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Like I always thought Tom and Maddie were good enough

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Especially since I watched movie 1 earlier this week, they have really good chemistry even there

odd grotto
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||I'm glad we got more Rachel, even if it was technically Maddie
also I will erase the Toon Tom out of my mind thank you||

drifting hawk
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It didn’t last too long

jovial plover
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||I do think it's hilarious that the one GUN lady they advertised appears for like 5 minutes and is completely irrelevant in the last act of the movie||

wet karma
drifting hawk
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So it wasn’t there long enough for me to go “alright let’s keep it moving already”

wet karma
hard spoke
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||It’s kinda funny how many times live and learn is teased in this movie, almost like they were overcompensating for the fact that the other two scores were kinda shi-||

odd grotto
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but yea Tom and Maddie were fun in this

drifting hawk
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||Dude I’m crying they had rachel and randall on these fuckass posters but it was just tom and maddie in disguise 💀||

wet karma
odd grotto
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||glad Maddie had more involvement||

drifting hawk
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Speaking of characters on posters

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I thought rockwell was gonna have a much bigger role?

hard spoke
jovial plover
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||Also I did really like Maria in this movie, for what little we had of her||

drifting hawk
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Tbf she wasn’t shown much in the marketing

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But I thought that was because they were hiding something or some shit

hard spoke
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||wasn’t expecting Eggman’s 06 theme to show up, of all pieces||

drifting hawk
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But no she’s just kind of side threat(?) and then she’s gone for the rest

odd grotto
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||oh yea I'm fucking happy about Live and Learn, having the vocals even for a bit was unexpected too
but also liked the detail of the Level Clear theme at one point||

wet karma
drifting hawk
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||Also gun commander dying off RIP was hhhhhh||

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||I kind of wish him and shadow had some sort of interaction before then||

jovial plover
wet karma
drifting hawk
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Oh yeah the Easter eggs were also fun

hard spoke
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||also one of the track titles in the soundtrack is Throw It All Away even though it sounds nothing like Throw It All Away. Why would you do this to me Junkie XL😭😭😭||

jovial plover
odd grotto
drifting hawk
odd grotto
drifting hawk
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Also

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Am I crazy

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But when the ark was lifting off

wet karma
drifting hawk
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Like I can’t tell if I’m making shit up or if the motif was there

hard spoke
slate gate
drifting hawk
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||robotnik and stone 🥹||

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that was very sweet

odd grotto
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||despite the sense of scale being a bit smaller, I liked this take on the ARK as just a space canon
the main area (or well only walkable area) looking kinda like observatory in SA2 was a nice touch, did not expect the thing to also have a goofy moustache but it is much appreciated||

slate gate
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With knuckles

odd grotto
wet karma
hard spoke
drifting hawk
wet karma
drifting hawk
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Ok so

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I’ve seen reviews say this was the least funny film

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It might be the funniest for me? Idk 😭

hard spoke
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This is worse than the time I played sonic adventure 2 on the dreamcast

slate gate
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Na 3s jokes hit the hardest

odd grotto
drifting hawk
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It’s funnier than 2 I think

slate gate
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Some were completely outta pocket

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The bondage one was absolutely crazy 😭

drifting hawk
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The break out joke for me in 2 was the fish “run.” but that’s about it

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Also

hard spoke
odd grotto
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||revenge quac...||

drifting hawk
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||“they’re letting women into the military” gerald WHAT THE FUCK||

slate gate
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Bro some of these jokes were funny af

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And u know who took the show?

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Rachel

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Like always

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Rachel carrying these films imo

odd grotto
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true

drifting hawk
hard spoke
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||Eggman doing the Fnaf 2 jumpscare to Santa Gerald😭||

drifting hawk
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Hhhh

odd grotto
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we need the Shadow and Rachel show tbh

wet karma
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||One of the funniest parts for me is when Gerald just... evaporates||

drifting hawk
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I mean it WAS funny but it didn’t stick out to me that much

drifting hawk
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THAT KILLED ME

odd grotto
wet karma
odd grotto
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||I was expecting him to die but not like that 😭||

weary crystal
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||A fitting end for a very slimy old dude||

drifting hawk
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||I made a joke to a friend when he got swatted “oh he’s dead” but he actually got fucking vaporized 😭😭||

odd grotto
wet karma
weary crystal
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||when you are a villain in a kids movie it's free real-estate in terms of how you can get killed||

hard spoke
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I will say, I think I do prefer Gerald’s story in the games overall, but that’s more so because the games have a lot more to work with than the movies and it isn’t a detracting factor to the movie itself since it kept the most important elements

drifting hawk
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I know gerald not being on death row is a bit of a bummer but

hard spoke
drifting hawk
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||Him wanting to destroy the earth and then kill HIMSELF is also pretty fucked up||

odd grotto
plush forge
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10/10 movie, must see again literal peak

weary crystal
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||I do believe the movies intentionally made him irredeemably evil so that kids won't sympathize or feel conflicted about the way he goes out||

drifting hawk
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||Also “you’re no maria” that was so good ||

slate gate
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BRO

drifting hawk
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I really liked gerald’s turn in the latter half

odd grotto
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cold af

slate gate
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me and my friend were so shocked

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When he said that

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Like DAMN BRO

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u didn’t need to say that 😭

hard spoke
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Also thank god, keanu’s performance as shadow is actually alright

odd grotto
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||I appreciate him being much colder, like he's still silly jim carreybotnik but I like the air of fury he's got at times and just how he really doesn't think much of his grandson at the end||

drifting hawk
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Yeah it was ok

hard spoke
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I was very worried by the dlc cause his delivery was kinda off

wet karma
slate gate
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Bro Keanu did such an amazing job for me

drifting hawk
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Nah I don’t think it was amazing

slate gate
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I totally get it

weary crystal
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||ngl before the movie I was hoping that he did some experiments on himself and he turns into a hideous monster in the end (like Frankenstein's monster style) before his timely demise. Alas, they made him a robot scorpion lol||

plush forge
drifting hawk
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||because when it showed maria’s death scene||

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My friend laughed under her breath at his “maria” delivery because she thought it was so bad 😭

odd grotto
weary crystal
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Yes

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Exactly

slate gate
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Also imma say, Maria and Shadow’s relationship in this movie, 10x better than SA2

odd grotto
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tbh you were on to something tobe

slate gate
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I’m sorry 😭

drifting hawk
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Well yeah

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Maria didn’t

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Have much

weary crystal
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Lowkey I wish the budgets for hollywood movies weren't so bloated

plush forge
odd grotto
wet karma
weary crystal
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To allow for more than 1 crazy thing per movie lol

drifting hawk
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Getting to see how playful maria actually is definitely aids in the tragedy of it

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Seeing her act like a child

weary crystal
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We need that Japanese animated movie with a $10 mil budget

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So they can go ham

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On the cheap

slate gate
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I kinda wanted a sonic animated movie to happen

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Now with 3…I kinda want them to keep on goin 😭

wet karma
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Why not both?

drifting hawk
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I think they can do one while the movieverse is still going

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Yeah

odd grotto
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ouch

odd grotto
drifting hawk
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But also I think it’d be cool

odd grotto
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like give it to me asap

drifting hawk
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Also

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Some review talked about a Sonic X reference

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What even was that 😭

wet karma
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Something that stuck with me since I saw the movie was how you could really feel Shadow's pain

wet karma
drifting hawk
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||Shadow taking off his limiter rings?||

jovial plover
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I was expecting it because of the clasps but still

wind trout
odd grotto
wet karma
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||I actually took it as a reference to the first movie's original trailer when seeing it||

jovial plover
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||Ngl though I do wish that Sonic and Shadow had had one last interaction before the latter's death(?)
Sonic was kind of just taken out for those final minutes||

wind trout
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in that case movie 2 had two sonic x references

slate gate
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Might’ve been the super sonic vs super shadow fight

weary crystal
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||they posed like Sonic X when they were blocking the Eclipse Cannon||

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😭

drifting hawk
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I think the climax went by too quickly imo

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Like it was HEAVENLY dgmw

wind trout
drifting hawk
#

But it kinda felt like they wanted to cram as much cool stuff as possible until the end of the movie without taking too much account into how it flowed

weary crystal
#

||apparently base Shadow is so busted he can go toe-to-toe with Super Sonic briefly and then also power up a laser that the 2 of them combined couldn't stop AYOOOO did he even need the super form😭||

plush forge
#

oh yeah I bought this at my theatre

drifting hawk
#

I think Sonic 2’s climax was paced better, even if it was nowhere near as cool

odd grotto
wet karma
#

Sometimes you gotta maximize that cool factor in exchange for flow

odd grotto
wet karma
weary crystal
#

||and ofc much to my dismay, super shadow doesn't get his quills raised more except for like 1 or 2 scenes where they are powering up||

drifting hawk
#

Man

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They’re gonna have to juggle

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So many CG characters next movie LMAO

wet karma
#

$200 million budget here we come

plush forge
# odd grotto damn he's so tiny

||they put super shadow on back lol my friend was so pissed cause he didn’t even know super shadow was gonna be in the movie, he hasn’t played sa2||

weary crystal
#

I am reminded of the people saying this movie was gonna metal sonic amy shadow rouge and whoever the fuck else

plush forge
weary crystal
#

I hope after watching the movie people realize what can and can't fit in these things

slate gate
#

Not adding rouge was a smart move

odd grotto
drifting hawk
#

Now the rouge heads are gonna start petitioning for the next film 💀

slate gate
#

Rouge never appearing in the films

#

vecort 👍

odd grotto
#

can Omega show up? bigsad

feral path
#

||I just realized… the Japanese cover of "I Want You Back" may or may not be a subtle nod to Michael Jackson, as the song itself was originally performed by the Jackson 5.||

slate gate
odd grotto
#

as he should be

drifting hawk
#

they thought they were so fucking clever huh.

pale basin
slate gate
#

Honestly we must need the Chaotix, Silver and Omega and the movie verse is perfect for me

#

Just make Omega a GUN project

wet karma
#

Silver would ruin it for me

#

Other than him, I'd like to see the rest in the Movieverse

mild fulcrum
#

Actually I can see Omega being made by GUN as a countermeasure for Shadow if he ever goes rogue

#

a nice twist on what 06 presents

drifting hawk
#

Oh yeah another thing I remembered

#

It’s kind of silly how shadow just suddenly remembered maria’s wish at the end of SA2

||So them not having him promise her anything, and for Gerald to manipulate him when he has doubts and says “this isn’t about what she wants, it’s about what they deserve”||

#

I think that was well done

mild fulcrum
#

idk shadow's memory was tampered with by gerald and he only gains backs some of them through specific triggers. so it makes sense why he would suddenly remember that by the end

pale basin
#

I guess considering GUN used Eggman's tech in some aspect does make sense in a way over Omega

drifting hawk
#

But fair enough

mild fulcrum
#

i mean i think before final chase, there was that scene with rouge confronting shadow if hes even the ultimate life form

#

thats where they teased biolizard and shadow expliciitly sayingeven if his memories arent real, its all he has

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like idk how much more youd want em to spell it out for u

plush forge
mild fulcrum
#

i dont think theyll ever add rouge

drifting hawk
plush forge
ivory grotto
#

if Maddle wears a white shirt, we'll get Rouge

mild fulcrum
pale basin
#

Bro can I just say over the shirt theory

#

It's insanely consistent as hell LMAO

odd grotto
odd grotto
#

need Maddie to wear a red shirt with some yellow on it
or maybe a light purple shirt..

slate gate
#

Gimme Maddie with a cyan shirt

odd grotto
#

yes

mild fulcrum
#

wisps fpr 5

tall linden
#

What if you were spanking your grandson with your comically large hand, but then he said:

atomic sinew
#

Back from the movie

weary crystal
#

Ayy

jovial plover
#

yo deleter join the party

atomic sinew
#

I need to see that movie again ngl, halfway because I feel like I missed a lot due to circumstances outside of the movie

#

But also holy shit my family was brutal on this

weary crystal
weary crystal
#

You family was harsher than Sonic fanboys?

atomic sinew
#

I'm actively trying to enjoy the movie and they're actively shaking their heads and even motioning boos

weary crystal
#

Did they not like the muzzle curves

atomic sinew
#

Oh no

weary crystal
#

Wait what

atomic sinew
#

I think they def are fanboys by the sounds of it

weary crystal
#

Tf

weary crystal
#

What was there to boo lmao

atomic sinew
#

My dad was the only one that didn't really participate but that's bc he didn't really know what the game was like

atomic sinew
slate gate
#

Why 😭😭😭

weary crystal
#

Huh

atomic sinew
#

They said it didn't earn it

slate gate
#

??????

atomic sinew
#

And ngl I do agree but

#

I was trying

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To see

#

What the movie did on its own terms

slate gate
#

Wait did ur family like sonic?

slate gate
#

Or did they not and u dragged them along 😭

weary crystal
atomic sinew
atomic sinew
weary crystal
#

How do you earn live and learn

#

Do you need a Biolizard

atomic sinew
#

They probably were expecting SA2 1-to-1

weary crystal
#

Boo

#

Boi*

atomic sinew
weary crystal
#

They more fanboy than you

slate gate
#

😭

weary crystal
#

😭

atomic sinew
#

They fucking hated him

slate gate
#

HUH??!

atomic sinew
#

AND Shadow

weary crystal
#

Lmfao

atomic sinew
#

Im like

#

Calm down 😭

slate gate
#

They hated the moon talk???

#

I thought that shit was fire

weary crystal
#

Did they like Shadow Gens

atomic sinew
atomic sinew
#

Or seen Dark Beginnings

weary crystal
#

Bruh

atomic sinew
#

Which is wild

weary crystal
#

Also question how old are they

jovial plover
#

What did they think of Jim Carrey if they hated Shadow lol

atomic sinew
#

Oh they loved him, same honestly

#

They thought he was the best part of the movie

tall linden
#

...

atomic sinew
weary crystal
#

I'm so confused at their selective fanboyism

#

💀

drifting hawk
#

Not the soundtrack titles being random sa2 references 😭😭

atomic sinew
#

Older brother 24, middle brother 20, younger sister 17, youngest brother 14

jovial plover
atomic sinew
weary crystal
atomic sinew
#

I liked him bigsad

jovial plover
#

I didn't dislike his performance but I dislike how the movie paced his scenes

#

And Gerald, in general

weary crystal
#

He was good I think people don't like that Gerald was written too comedic

atomic sinew
#

I could not believe the way they presented Gerald's death even with knowledge of how it went, that shit was incredible

weary crystal
#

Cinema

atomic sinew
weary crystal
#

Fizzle it was by Tyson Hesse

atomic sinew
#

I didn't really hear them complain about Gerald

weary crystal
#

That's for like

drifting hawk
weary crystal
#

The hyper turbo Sonic nerds

#

Cause he wasn't a super complex good guy turned villain character

drifting hawk
#

> E.G.G.M.E.N.

> no eggman theme motif

> has live and learn instead

???

weary crystal
#

You gotta keep in mind these tracks match what's happening in the scenes

drifting hawk
#

i know I KNOW im just being silly

atomic sinew
#

The main things they brought up as complaints were the pacing, the character arcs/writing, Shadow and Maria, Shadow himself, and the references for the sake of it iirc

weary crystal
#

The names are based on that

drifting hawk
#

im looking for that one track

#

that sounded a lot like the 06 eggman theme

#

when the eclipse cannon was lifting

#

I need to know if I was going crazy or not

atomic sinew
#

It's in there somewhere

weary crystal
atomic sinew
#

And the way that Shadow was floating above the ruins, maaaan

weary crystal
#

Unfortunately we ran into the budget situation again and the fight scenes can't be very long

#

It was like a little over a minute overall

drifting hawk
#

at the very least it’s much cooler than sonic and knuckles exchanging a few blows in the temple

jovial plover
#

The fights were great this movie, surpassed the other two by a landslide

weary crystal
#

It was a certified anime moment were they saved the budget for this and the quality suddenly gets way better

drifting hawk
#

the fight in tokyo was also great imo

feral path
#

I cannot get ||"Neon" by ONE OK ROCK|| out of my head lol

jovial plover
drifting hawk
#

oh yeah, this was in the movie apparently?

strong basin
weary crystal
#

Suddenly their punches and kicks started having video game aura

atomic sinew
#

Eeeh

feral path
jovial plover
#

The entire first fight with Shadow was amazing

#

The reaction when he pulled that shit with the motorcycle

#

Legend

atomic sinew
#

I came away with a more positive opinion with the kids movie, idk if I can get behind it as anything with aura outside of that final fight

weary crystal
#

He had no reason to ride that motorcycle tho ngl

weary crystal
#

I was gonna say something and idk if anyone can confirm

slate gate
weary crystal
#

Did Shadow roll into a ball at any point in the movie

#

Lmao

slate gate
#

If it was necessary to include game quotes in the movie

weary crystal
#

Fraud allegations again

slate gate
#

That was the coldest place to put one 😭

drifting hawk
weary crystal
#

But yeah

#

If this was a show

#

Would be peak pacing ngl

slate gate
#

Also I just noticed too when they jumped outta the plane they did the sonic heroes totem pole thing right at the end

#

Thought that was a cool Easter egg

feral path
weary crystal
#

Triangle glide? bog

#

I know the odds of it happening are literally 0%

drifting hawk
#

ngl

weary crystal
#

But man am I hoping for an extended cut home/streaming release

drifting hawk
slate gate
#

Same here

drifting hawk
#

it wasnt even huge it just made me happy

slate gate
#

Na what made me so giddy

#

Was the

weary crystal
#

Sonic 2 did include Drone Home which was a 5 min extra

slate gate
#

“No food or movies, I’m outta here”

weary crystal
#

So it's not impossible I guess

slate gate
#

Like GOODDD

#

I GOT SO GIDDY

drifting hawk
#

i think the film could benefit from having an extended cut with a few minutes added on

#

i still cannot believe how fast that movie going experience was

#

we were at the climax before i knew it

atomic sinew
#

Ok so it wasn't just me

slate gate
#

It felt like the opposite for me

#

It felt like some parts felt a bit too long

atomic sinew
#

I mean the parts in the middle were appropriately long

weary crystal
#

I did have like 20 mins of ads so it wasn't fast for me lmao

drifting hawk
#

the only scene i felt boardered on too long was the dance

#

but it ended before it got to that point

atomic sinew
#

I can't exactly clock the first 30 minutes bc my mind was frazzled from driving in the cold for so long

drifting hawk
#

dude i just started to remember what exactly happened during the last half and i want to freak the hell out all over again

atomic sinew
#

The impression that I got was that the trailers had shown most of those initial 30 minutes and everything was on fast forwards, but I'm not sure if it's accurate

drifting hawk
#

i kind of don't want to watch a camrip so i can see it in its hd glory bigsad

#

please leak the hd version early again lmao

slate gate
#

Bro the whole third act

#

Got me

#

I was ascending

#

After Tom got packed up

#

That’s where shit got so interesting to me

drifting hawk
#

me and my friend next to me were holding each other dawg 😭

slate gate
#

Bro same here

drifting hawk
#

also im very surprised

slate gate
#

I was gripping tf outta my friend when live and learn started playing

drifting hawk
#

when i went on twitter to look at sonic 3 stuff

#

there were pretty much no spoilers

#

the most i could find by casually scrolling was the junkie live and learn cover

#

speaking of which, it is criminal that its only 46 SECONDS

weary crystal
#

Tbh main things I'd focus is like... Integrate Gerald to the flashbacks more with 1 additional scene, add an extra scene for rockwell cause she was built up to do nothing in the end, do something with that giant Eggman crab, and also add a scene for the lore junkies about what's going on with the emerald(s)

#

Each can be like 1-2 min scenes

#

And ofc if they can, extending the fights would be cool

drifting hawk
#

when you're on the poster for doing nothing

atomic sinew
#

I mean rockwell still got her time to shine with the whole

#

going against sonic and eggman thing

#

Third party trying to thwart them all

weary crystal
#

Btw

#

In the trailers there was that whole lava backdrop when Sonic and Shadow fight

slate gate
weary crystal
#

Was that a thing in the movie

#

I can't remember

atomic sinew
weary crystal
#

When I saw it in the trailer I thought that was gonna happen because the moon was hit

drifting hawk
#

i think the last thing anyone focused on during that scene was lava

#

but uhhhh

atomic sinew
#

It was during super sonic

drifting hawk
#

maybe?

atomic sinew
#

And right before

weary crystal
#

Hmmm

#

Alright

#

So I guess the moon is just there for the cool visual

drifting hawk
#

it’s been hours and i still can’t believe i saw that

#

like after the movie

#

i was kind of in this delirious exhausted state

#

because i exerted so much energy while watching the movie

#

so now im sitting here at home and im like "did that really just happen"

atomic sinew
#

Dude there were so many sonic fans just roaming my theater holy shit

drifting hawk
#

YEAH there were so many sonic people in the lobby

jovial plover
atomic sinew
#

It wasn't just kids this time it was dudes in full body suits with their highschooler friends

drifting hawk
#

in my theater though

feral osprey
#

2nd watch complete, I just realized ||The Last Scene from SA2|| is credited I did hear that motif the first time but I thought I was just mishearing it or something

drifting hawk
#

there were a group of friends behind my group of friends sitting right behind us

#

the back row seemed like families

atomic sinew
drifting hawk
#

Pup mentioned in his spoiler talk but I didn't notice

atomic sinew
#

I had to point that one out to my brother but that just made him madder 💀

feral osprey
drifting hawk
#

why was your family so mad at the movie bruh 😭

#

did they like the first two at all

atomic sinew
#

I DONT KNOW I mean I kinda get it but

#

I wasn't expecting that at all

atomic sinew
drifting hawk
#

⁉️

atomic sinew
#

And back then they weren't even that big on Sonic I don't think

#

Like "oh I liked the characters when I was a kid but"

#

"I don't need to see them in a specific way anymore"

drifting hawk
#

i need to watch it again to form solid thoughts on it

atomic sinew
drifting hawk
#

without letting the hype get to my head

hybrid mirage
#

Oh yea, where was Escape from the City used, saw that credited but never heard it. Heard literally every other theme and motif except that

atomic sinew
#

Maybe I'm the problem

#

Bc I sold them on the idea that they were going to do all the storybeats from the Sonic 2 Shadow teaser when it happened

drifting hawk
#

because while in the theater it's like you're antsy for the next cool thing to happen so you're just waiiiiiting for the other scenes to go by, at least in my case

#

i don't think that's a fair way to judge something

atomic sinew
atomic sinew
#

They still got stuff wrong tho

drifting hawk
atomic sinew
#

So in the hallway I'm out there correcting them and stuff

#

Of all the things they were complaining abt 💀

#

Meanwhile my dad is like "wait what was the original story then"

atomic sinew
plush forge
#

guys

atomic sinew
#

I just wish we got more of Sonic and co interacting with Eggman

plush forge
atomic sinew
#

Because that shit was golden

drifting hawk
#

true

#

honestly the scene of them looking for shadow in the base was great

atomic sinew
#

The baffled looks of everyone as I cheered for wade

drifting hawk
#

LMAO

#

the one guy who said wade had the worst joke of the movie

feral osprey
drifting hawk
#

it wasn't even the joke, it was his mere presence

#

😭

atomic sinew
#

Daamn

slate gate
atomic sinew
#

Also I love what they did with Stone

drifting hawk
#

yes!!

jovial plover
atomic sinew
drifting hawk
#

my row just went "oh my god" and laughed 😭

plush forge
#

||gonna upload the last segment of the movie in 8k 60 soon dm me for the link|| still cam, but recorded on my phone

slate gate
#

Our theater exploded for Rachel and Wade

#

Uhhh

drifting hawk
#

what the fuck kind of theater did you go to

slate gate
#

A lot of laughs from Jim

atomic sinew
#

I had my phone prepared for any crowd reactions but

drifting hawk
#

to be fair

atomic sinew
#

Nothing

plush forge
atomic sinew
drifting hawk
#

i went to the 4:15 screening

#

if i went to the one at 7

tall linden
#

my theater had enough restraint to only yell "HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT OBAMA"

atomic sinew
#

Oh yeah the projector was actually really good this time

drifting hawk
#

the projector in my theater was...............................

#

it was aight

#

i went to a regal theater in the mall 😭

jovial plover
atomic sinew
#

Lmao no way

drifting hawk
#

in general did you guys have a nice moviegoing experience

atomic sinew
#

I did yeah

drifting hawk
#

my theater was pretty nice the whole time

tall linden
#

yeah

slate gate
#

Ya

atomic sinew
#

I kinda wish there were unhinged ppl in my theater though

jovial plover
#

Unfortunately not, me and my friend sat in front of a larper who wouldn't shut up the whole movie

slate gate
#

Funny enough people got annoying at post credits

drifting hawk
#

like a little kid would yap here and there but they were pretty respectful

atomic sinew
#

I wanted to experience at least one crazy moment

feral osprey
slate gate
#

One stood up and was like “GUYS DONT MOVE, THERES A SECOND POST CREDITS, I REPEAT DONT MOVE”

tall linden
#

first showing was a bit flat since there was mostly press people and whatever
but the second one I was in a theater filled with sonic fans that was hype as fuck

atomic sinew
#

Buh

slate gate
#

I was like 😐

drifting hawk
#

think that affected your enjoyment of the movie or nah

jovial plover
#

I only saw ||Amy and Metal||

slate gate
#

Na

drifting hawk
#

there is but

slate gate
#

That shit was absolute peak

atomic sinew
#

It was a really short one to be fair

drifting hawk
#

its like

jovial plover
drifting hawk
#

||just confirmation shadow survived||

slate gate
#

But people were like “AMY FANS WHERE YOU AT”

drifting hawk
#

its nothing too crazy

slate gate
#

😭

tall linden
#

second one is just ||shadow retrieving his inhibitor ring||

atomic sinew
#

||Just shadow picking up his inhibitor ring||

jovial plover
#

damn it i misssssssed that

drifting hawk
feral osprey
tall linden
#

with the live and learn riff

jovial plover
#

hopefully it'll be uploaded on Youtube

drifting hawk
#

godddd

#

that was so good man

tall linden
drifting hawk
#

i think i started tearing up ngl 😭

jovial plover
#

I'm just mad, that one person ruined my theater experience

slate gate
#

What did u say exactly???

jovial plover
#

I'd be fully immersed in the movie and then they'd yap and pull me right out of it, over and over

#

Didn't respond to any shushing either

feral osprey
slate gate
#

Cuz one person in my theater did say something extremely loud

feral osprey
jovial plover
slate gate
#

Midway through the movie and I laughed

jovial plover
#

Like responding directly to what the characters would say

atomic sinew
#

God my voice is sore after all the yapping

feral osprey
drifting hawk
#

godddd that sounds so bad

slate gate
#

I don’t remember 😭😭😭

slate gate
#

Was the town u watched the movie in begin with a P?

feral osprey
#

Also looking back on the voice memo you can’t really tell how loud I yelled but you can hear the people giggling

plush forge
atomic sinew
#

lmaooooo

feral osprey
atomic sinew
#

the king is dead, long live the king

slate gate
#

AMC

feral osprey
#

Oh I was at regal

slate gate
#

Ahh

#

Was gonna say there was one person that screamed about something and me and my friend were laughing

plush forge
# slate gate AMC

AMC was nice the one I was at had the reclining seats so that was nice so I could hide my phone and not get caught recording lol

atomic sinew
#

I remember when movie tavern was the only theater in my area that had recliners, now every single one of them has them 💀

drifting hawk
plush forge
atomic sinew
#

Realized that people hate stadium seating

feral osprey
#

I used to have an AMC in my town (even worked at it for a couple years) but it closed at the beginning of the month so now the closest theaters are the Regal and Cinebistro uptown like half an hour away

#

And according to the imax website the closest imax theater is fucking 40 miles away

tall linden
#

me hearing maria playing live and learn at the beginning:

atomic sinew
#

Uagh I need to watch it again, I feel like I completely missed that scene somehow

tall linden
#

it's the bit when shadow's waking up and there's flashes of her playing the guitar

drifting hawk
#

at least you weren't my friend who was 10 minutes late because of traffic

#

he came in just as team sonic jumped off the helicopter

jovial plover
drifting hawk
#

oh my fucking god 😭

atomic sinew
#

Bro missed the coldest opening to a sonic movie ever, no way lol

drifting hawk
#

lovo it genuinely sounds like you had a disasterous experience

jovial plover
#

Nah nah man
-20 minutes late
-projector issues restart the movie
-chronic yapper right behind us
maybe I need to watch the movie again

atomic sinew
#

Yeeeeaaah def

#

I need to do the same but Idk when I'll be able to though; once the christmas week is over maybe?

jovial plover
#

i'm waiting for it to come on streaming

plush forge
#

||ok so did Walter die in movie or what?||

drifting hawk
#

i went straight for the cam rip on sonic 2 a few days later but i think i'll wait until it hits streaming

jovial plover
#

ngl after my experience i don't want to take chances, i'll just watch it on my laptop

drifting hawk
#

i think it deserves that

atomic sinew
#

Hmmmm maybe

#

That'll be a long wait though

drifting hawk
#

good

atomic sinew
#

Though someone said something about bluray preorders one sec

drifting hawk
#

freshen up my head

atomic sinew
#

Ah they're undated

tall linden
atomic sinew
#

||The way they revealed his injury was so unintentionally funny though||

atomic sinew
#

||One second Stone being a badass, the next, table lift, oh that's a dead guy (ish)||

drifting hawk
#

im ngl i had no fucking idea who you guys were talking about at first 😭

feral osprey
drifting hawk
#

was like "walter? walter white?" i did NOT know that was the gun commander's name

jovial plover
#

||Rip Walter, I went to Olive Garden for you babygirl||

hard spoke
#

||I like how he actually tries to stop the gun soldier from shooting maria||

#

||makes him seem more like a real person||

jovial plover
#

||Man when I saw young Walter I thought the twist was going to be that he was a Wachowski and the one who shot Maria, like people were theorizing||

feral osprey
#

Also did anyone else think Maddie's expression when ||she leaves in the ambulance with Tom|| made it seem like ||they were gonna have her sort of blame/resent Sonic & co for putting him in danger||? ||She looked sorta pissed||

jovial plover
#

I was wondering that too but after finishing the movie I don't think that was the intention

#

Would have been an awfully dark turn for a kid's movie too

#

I think she was just stressed and worried

feral osprey
#

Yeah maybe it's a remnant of an earlier bit

drifting hawk
jovial plover
#

I figure now that it was a sort of "I'll go with him, do what you gotta do" look

feral osprey
#

glad they left it in though it's like she sorta worked things out on her own which fits her character, she's been shown to be good at calming herself down a bit (like when she talked to Tom after finding out about Sonic in the first movie), so it makes sense she'd be able to collect herself, step back, and look at things rationally during really emotional moments

weary crystal
#

Ngl I'm surprised they didn't attempt to tease ||Dark Super Sonic||

tall linden
#

why would they tease that

jovial plover
#

||Since they had sort of dark forms for the Echidnas who went mad from the Emerald's power||

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||I guess Super Sonic is just his one and only form||

atomic sinew
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I'm still so surprised they introduced the tension of Sonic vs Knuckles and then immediately killed it dead with no hesitation

plush forge
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guys😭😭😭

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Mufusa ad

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the comments are so funny lol

atomic sinew
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LMAOOOOOO

plush forge
tall linden
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meanwhile all the instagram comments are probably "nice try diddy"

plush forge
plush forge
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found one sonic comment😭😭😭

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why ate they calling him unc😭😭😭

tall linden
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disney adults

plush forge
plush forge
tall linden
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I talked shit under a trailer on yt a few weeks back and there were so many disney adults jumping me lmao

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they were so angry

plush forge
feral path
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Just realized that ||"Green Hill, Good Future" has a leitmotif of "A New Home" from the first soundtrack.||

slate gate
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Who has that resetera post of guy with a Captain America simba pfp bootlicking mufasa and shitting on sonic?

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It was posted on this server a couple weeks ago

tall linden
plush forge
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I wonder why

slate gate
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Bro

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Why is sonic

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Outta all franchises

weary crystal
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It needs 500+ verified family reviews

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To show up

slate gate
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Slapping tf outta big companies

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I get Warner bros and Sony

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But fucking Disney???

hard spoke
slate gate
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Still

tall linden
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I'm not gonna count my eggs before they hatch
but I'm keeping this tab open to gloat to these MFs later if sonic actually comes out on top

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I will NOT be the bigger man

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I WILL be a petty bitch

slate gate
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It shouldn’t be beating juggernauts of the movie industry

slate gate
plush forge
# tall linden

calling sonic 3 generic is insane when Mufasa is literally a fuckin cash grab💀

slate gate
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But for opening weekend???

weary crystal
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Sonic movies have never lost a head 2 head

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💀

slate gate
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That’s what really matters to me 💀

tall linden
weary crystal
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And every time they're somehow the underdog

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Because movie people just don't understand

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What they are dealing with

plush forge
slate gate
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Sonic out here slapping every company he comes by opening weekend

plush forge
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literally a christmas miracle😭😭😭

slate gate
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Sonic making 35 mil on preview night over mufasas 12 mil

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Absolutely insane to me

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Especially when mufasa clearly had way more marketing

plush forge
jovial plover
plush forge
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they still fuckin cooked

slate gate
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I think the leaked storyboard changed a lot of plans actually imo

jovial plover
slate gate
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I also think it’s responsible for the post credits too

plush forge
jovial plover
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I avoided the leaked storyboards like the plague

slate gate
plush forge
jovial plover
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WHAT

slate gate
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The laser was about to hit the earth but instead of redirecting it

fringe solar
slate gate
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Shadow pulls a Superman and makes the eclipse cannon a Time Machine

jovial plover
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that's wild 😭 i think this way was simpler actually

drifting hawk
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wait what lmao

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is that what those storyboards were

slate gate
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Eggman would’ve been transported back to the Dino age

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Ya

plush forge
drifting hawk
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kind of glad they didn't do that ngl

slate gate
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||I still think it was responsible for not including silver imo||

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||if they went with this storyboard, the post credits would’ve been entirely different imo||

plush forge
slate gate
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Honestly

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It makes sorta sense????

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I think it was a deliberate tease of the next installment

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Like you can connect that to the post credits and it’ll make sense

drifting hawk
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Does it
?

slate gate
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Sorta???

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Multiple metals with one overruling main one

plush forge
slate gate
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Amy with ragedy cloak

drifting hawk
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You may just be making connections that aren’t there but maybe