#Sonic Mobile Games
glossy plume
deep silo
That's part of the Crews screen btw
deep silo
I know what it is, my question is why is in the Crews screen
quartz island
Looks like my job here is done
wide zephyr
Rip
muted hawk
Hm
deep silo
Yeah so reading the answers and they just gave no real answer other than "this fundamentally changes the game, that's why delay"
Great non-answer lmao
peak wharf
Hasn't this game been released in other countries for like a year or something?
muted hawk
Dude
deep silo
Yes and that was one of the questions as well. As in, "why is it available in those countries"
muted hawk
woven jungle
we are guinea pigs
muted hawk
I can play it rn LMFAO
deep silo
And all they said was "we're collecting feedback since it's still soft-launch"
muted hawk
Honestly i am not seeing any difference
Like i feel they should add stuff that really matters like better base control
also a faster running speed animation cuz goddamn i hate how slow they move their legs
peak wharf
"soft launch"
muted hawk
More like hard launch
shell walrus
And all they said was "we're collecting feedback since it's still soft-launch"
dude half the world has it
what’s the fucking point
knotty flicker
Great non-answer lmao
what gonna came out faster
shell walrus
I dont know why I’m even surprised tbh, Rovio’s been weird about region releases for a looong time
peak wharf
They're doing trailers for the game, they have full on seasons for the game that we're able to watch/play on the official channels like we can actually play the game normally
shell walrus
I just didn’t think it’d be this bad
nocturne belfry
what gonna came out faster
If we get fucking gta6 before rumble
I’m gonna start doing 1000 pushups
glossy plume
Great non-answer lmao
Can't even spell competitive smh
deep silo
Honestly i am not seeing any difference
The update still isn't out yet
Next week we'll probably know how bad the balance actually is
quartz island
It's not a competitive game lmao
deep silo
Currently it's as competitive as "the more you have, the higher the score, the higher the placement in the leaderboard, the bigger rewards"
stuck wing
this game is cooked, idk why care about that aspect when it's clearly a party game mostly
like sure there are stat boosts for points and rings and maybe you can try to manoeuvre your way around more tactfully but even then still
deep silo
But that's pre-competitive mode
shell walrus
Did gta6 even have a release date before this
deep silo
It didn't
only 2025
yeah but you said "delayed again"
Not in any official capacity
brittle prism
looking forward to its release in 2027
quartz island
It's not a competitive game, and they are shooting themselves in the foot by insinuating that it is
Even in the current version where everyone is on a level playing field
Minus score multipliers
deep silo
They're trying to make it one is what I'm getting from this
quartz island
It's just not competitive
And adding skills will cause the opposite
It's gonna be pay2win
That's the whole point
People will not buy skins for skills if they are just skill skins the whole time
They're gonna have to make them give an advantage
And then start power creeping
deep silo
yeah
stuck wing
like so far it felt aright, nothing special but once that happens I don't think I can find any interest in playing it further
quartz island
These games mainly function through "whales"
Players who pay thousands a pop to get top spots
That's kind of why live service games end up the way they are
deep silo
We'll see how it's gonna be next week, but again, definitely not a fan of the character skills existing in the first place
quartz island
Idk if everyone plays mobile games like that
Maybe someone thought a blue whale was out here making strides in the gaming community
brittle prism
actually, that's a point: for those of yall that've played rumble so far, how long does each full game last, from first to last round?
like, is it short and snappy or are you locked into it for a while once you start up a round
brittle prism
(assuming you last to the final round, ofc)
muted hawk
It is very short
brittle prism
hmm, okay
brittle prism
hrmmmmm okay I dunno about that for a mobile game lol
quartz island
In the first closed beta I remember I would quit in round 1 cause I could get points faster lmao. Don't know if that's still the case
They have said they are planning single round matches
stuck wing
pretty short but you gotta do all three rounds unless you go for those limited single round games
deep silo
actually, that's a point: for those of yall that've played rumble so far, how lo...
5 minutes at best
brittle prism
for a console game that's fine, but for a game that you play while taking a shite or on the train that feels kiiiiinda lengthy idk lol
quartz island
hrmmmmm okay I dunno about that for a mobile game lol
Same as stumble guys, which is what they cared about to begin with
But yeah like
deep silo
for a console game that's fine, but for a game that you play while taking a shit...
There are quick matches that only make you play 1 round, those last a minute or 2 I want to say
brittle prism
not a massive fan of speed battle for multiple reasons but it is short and sweet per round
brittle prism
There are quick matches that only make you play 1 round, those last a minute or ...
ahhkay thats more bearable then
deep silo
But those are limited
deep silo
As in, you get 1 round a day and can stack 3 of those max
quartz island
The fact that they went from "we just gonna make a Sonic skinned Stumble Guys" to "oh we can actually make a standard mobile game live service structure out of this" is definitely biting them in the ass
deep silo
That being said, round 2 usually lasts less than a minute because people/bots usually die really quickly
quartz island
Lmao
quartz island
Also I feel like the team is severely underestimating the fomo effect
Many people will straight up not start the game due to being so behind
deep silo
"Push balls into holes. btw you have a 1-second delay due to how the game's netcode works, have fun"
quartz island
Rollback in a party game 💀
I think it's more so cause it's beta and you are connecting to people not in your region
deep silo
I don't think so, I've seen the same behavior in content creators' footage that have the official access
also there's only 1 server and it's "global" anyway
That's not what I'm saying
I'm only saying this because I don't see that aspect being fixed at all
And also I should clarify, the delay is only real bad with the physics objects, like pushing a ball or the seesaws
and that's just how the game is
quartz island
Didn't play it enough to really experience that
But alas
It's not a god damn competitive game, Rovio
brittle prism
the sonic rumble competitive meta: plug in a controller and murk everyone using their touchscreens
deep silo
I should actually get a match or 2 into fumble btw
try and secure that top 1% leaderboard spot
and I do mean "a match or 2", I play at best 3 or so 3-round matches a day and I'm at top 1%
wide zephyr
welp july 31st is a placeholder date
hallow forge
Great non-answer lmao
Competitive game
austere pagoda
never talking in that dumbass server ever again
tardy coral
Bruhhhh
wide zephyr
pffft is that the rumble server
tardy coral
Nah the Hardlight server
wide zephyr
dam
tardy coral
Because it’s fun
hallow forge
never talking in that dumbass server ever again
Brother 😭
nocturne belfry
never talking in that dumbass server ever again
Sonic fumble
quartz island
https://www.mediaplaynews.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-3-stays-hot-on-disc-sales-charts/ Sonic 3 tops disk sales for 2nd week
ashen knot
interesting mobile game
slender lodge
wtf
woven jungle
are these just bots 
slender lodge
They better be
deep silo
They look like bots, yeah
slender lodge
Full bot lobby is insane
stuck wing
easy rewards let's go
slender lodge
Dead game!!! 😂😂
stuck wing
true!!!!
stuck wing
also decided I probably will never get anywhere near any of those two SMB characters so I spent most of my red rings on the extreme riders Amy
that aiai and meemee are just too pricey 
woven jungle
also decided I probably will never get anywhere near any of those two SMB charac...
they were already being generous by cutting it to 729 rsr
but that's still a lot of grinding
tardy coral
Get botted
nocturne belfry
https://x.com/sonic_rumble/status/1919361530459554029?s=46
oh yeah because rpg bots and fucking Zavok as a main character is so necessary
deep silo
https://x.com/sonic_rumble/status/1919361530459554029?s=46
wh
what's that got to do with the game
I mean whatever, it's their server
Just kinda weird
slender lodge
I think a lot of the community managers in Rumble love Zavok
Like 2 of them have Zavok in their discord bios
They are pushing an agenda 👊 😔
knotty flicker
because hes the goat
knotty flicker
isnt omega in crossworlds
stuck wing
yeah Omega's been showing up more but idk why Rumble fumbled this
thought maybe it could be due to things like those emote anims and robots lacking facial expression but Metal's there and there's Opa Opa being outright faceless so idk
because they're washed
twilit dune
isnt omega in crossworlds
and shadow gens and tsr and forces
he was only mentioned in the idle dialogue in frontiers but literally no one else besides the main four is there
stuck wing
imagine they add omega
and lock him behind 700 red rings
I'd be so mad
knotty flicker
and shadow gens and tsr and forces
he was only mentioned in the idle dialogue i...
omega fans
stuck wing
nothing matters unless I can homing attack my enemies off a cliff in silent forest as omega during a race
jagged obsidian
isnt omega in crossworlds
yea but like
omega is a weird omission from this game considering almost everyone else is here
stuck wing
chat rumble team HATES omega
novel rapids
They are really weird with using Omega as the whole really lol
It took him like 8 years to get into Dash?
And they put his alt first no less
stuck wing
very on and off but at least it's been a bit better nowadays in general
novel rapids
Yeah
But it is weird specifically for Rumble considering he is only "mainstay" character that is not in it
Even Jet got in first lol
novel rapids
Happy 5th anniversary to the last Olympics game i guess lol
hallow forge
Happy 5th anniversary to the last Olympics game i guess lol
This game was weird
It lasted like 2 months or so
The worst thing was that you had to pay to play the full game
hallow forge
Dont remember the price but you could only play one mini game
And I think you weren't able to play offline
ashen knot
and later when it went offline they released a version that was just a dollar with everything
before it was taken down entirely 
ashen knot
they would rather do nfts then a deal involving gaming's biggest mascot
and mario too 
hallow forge
Let's be honest
These games were barely selling anyways
The first 2 were a hit but after the winter one, people started caring less
tardy coral
only 20 dollars worth of microtransactions, cant spend any more
cloud sundial
They peaked with london 2012, tbh
Everything after was just a consistent downhill momentum
We barely even got any remixes for tokyo 2020
That's like, the main reason people cared about this series to begin with and we only had like, 3 there lmfao
dapper jetty
X
tardy coral
We just got Shadow so I don’t think another Extreme Gear skin will come anytime soon
fickle sleet
City Escape remix clean rip when?
Also Rumble still looks fun guys what was all the dooming for
ashen knot
people who haven't played it
muted hawk
No city escape i seen
fickle sleet
?
ashen knot
update tomorrow 
ashen knot
gawain tomorrow 
fickle sleet
Oh that would have been cool
Wait there are no GUN robots?
BOOOOOOOO
The SLWification of City Escape
ashen knot
that's weird
seeing how there are beetles in other stages
indigo marsh
honestly it feels so weird seeing badniks in city escape
quartz island
The game does fast everywhere except normal running
😭
I have a feeling a year from now they gonna regret how slow they made it
Wait
@slender lodge did they give you permanent speed buff in Sweet Mountain
It looked infinitely more fun
Wth
Nvm
Just saw another playthrough where they don't have it
Yeaaaah they need to try to raise the default speed asap
woven jungle
Yeaaaah they need to try to raise the default speed asap
people said that during the US playtest and they chose to do nothing
lol
quartz island
Well because I feel like they were stressed about launch the whole time not realizing how much this will be delayed
deep silo
They do have the hyperboost limited time mode every once in a while and honestly I can kinda see why they didn't do it?
The jump gets a bit too unwieldy and the speed doesn't really work for these types of stages
quartz island
What I was saying is that I think they will regret their initial design decisions
deep silo
At least to me it doesn't
quartz island
They already made the stages for the slower speeds
It's just not as stimulating
They'd have to make the paths longer
deep silo
I think it's fine as it is tbh
As in, I don't think the speed increase will fix the game in any meaningful way or make the game that more engaging
knotty flicker
https://youtu.be/OxqNIEmlbxg
knotty flicker
this is why i dont agree with statement that sonic music is fall off because we still have frontiers and rumble
jagged obsidian
this is why i dont agree with statement that sonic music is fall off because we ...
And also shadow gens, that gave us some good remixes
jagged obsidian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26ps7rakv3U
Oh it’s the generations remix :0
deep silo
https://tenor.com/view/lebron-pitalonzo-lebron-lebron-jerk-lebron-james-lebron-a...
bro, don't jork it in public
cloud sundial
what if im at the stripped club
woven jungle
i open the crews page and first things i see include "ZavokHateClub"
oh
and that’s one way to get ad revenue
woven jungle
No way the crews system is just chat of pre-baked bubbles and ads
i thought we love blaze was a chat message but its just a tag
jagged obsidian
Blaze being a cool character is like…the only thing all sonic fans can agree on lol
deep silo
Ok, so what I figured is you get 2 skills per mode + 2 more non-quick global skills?
And the quick skills are straight up separate commands with cooldown
Most of them seem to be either just attacks, ring magnets, with only a couple traversal ones
Some are kinda weird. For example, Bubble lets you straight up hover for a couple seconds
To get those skills, you need to spend skill parts, a new currency.
To level them up, you also need skill parts
Daily from Amy missions you can get ~100, at least right now
Starter skills cost ~200-400 I want to say, and then there's other legendary skills that are around 1000-1500
You can also buy skill part packs for real money, here are the prices in euros
That's kinda what I was afraid of when they decided to make those skills
You do get 1000 parts each if you get 10 A-ranks and 10 S-ranks (those reset btw, you only have B and C saved), but that seems to be the extent of it
You also get a slide and a stomp in the mailbox, but I'm not sure what the conditions are?
ashen knot
You do get 1000 parts each if you get 10 A-ranks and 10 S-ranks (those reset btw...
actually I think they just raised the score for the ranks cause I had As as well
enough for the reward even
deep silo
Maybe, but I'm still getting S ranks, so it's like
ashen knot
I guess you get higher scores now too
deep silo
Okay, sure, but why
deep silo
Still crazy that the ring limit is both there and this severe
Actively makes you not want to play the game after 2 quick rumbles and maybe 1 full one
ashen knot
OH YEAH ITS DELAYED INDEFINITELY
download an apk (if android)
or change your app store region if ios
tardy coral
I’m so stacked with skills and shit, my score multipler is like 3000%. So my scores are like nearly half a million for certain stages
deep silo
I’m so stacked with skills and shit, my score multipler is like 3000%. So my sco...
That's actually really stupid if that's still how you progress in competitive
Cuz like, I don't have nearly as much stuff bought (cuz I literally can't buy anything for real cash) so my score mult is a bit lower
Which is bad when your leaderboards has the rewards in RSR and materials depending on how high your placement is
Man, this game just reeks of a lot of things despite having a fun core
ashen knot
rgr...
rare green rings
deep silo
Bro stop!!!!!
brittle prism
the more I see of this thing the less enthused about it I am lmao
brittle prism
another Runners situation where the music bangs like hell but if I think about the monetisation I get an aneurysm
dense anchor
Pre-season 4, this is a pre-game, they managed to make it almost more exclusive and limited to play than Dream Team
I can't believe most Sonic mobile games are only playable for select few people
the most recent at least
brittle prism
we should all hop in F Zero 99 instead
been playing that again recently and it’s genuinely so ruddy good lol
peak wharf
First time I'm pre-coming off the hype
muted hawk
F Zero 99 has no right being so good
So much for pre season
Pre season more like how can we make it as unnapealing as possible when it actually launches
woven jungle
Bro stop!!!!!
there are so many more popups in this update now
deep silo
Does anyone have that leaked(?) presentation/design doc for Rumble that stated the monetization wouldn't be pay-to-win?
stuck wing
Still no Omega
tardy coral
Nopers
muted hawk
Why the fuck
tardy coral
That's actually really stupid if that's still how you progress in competitive
I think it’s more about how much you upgrade your stuff to boost your multiplier so having a lot of stuff will help so yeah p2w is the key to being on top of the leaderboard
cunning furnace
https://x.com/sonic_rumble/status/1920448688746320077?s=46
IT'S NOT EVEN OUT YET WHAT THE HELL
glossy plume
The term "Pre-Season 4" is such a fucking eye roller
stuck wing
maybe in pre-season 4 part 3 Omega will show up
slender lodge
I cant even buy the skins
Bc the game is not in my region
And on the steam creator early access u cant buy either 🥹
If i miss out on maam percival i will b saw
Sad
peak wharf
I'm playing this shit rn
I'm pretty sure
It's full of bots
Cuz I saw a bunch of "player-random-numbers"
deep silo
Nah, those are actual people
bots are straight up braindead and you'll notice that pretty easily
also they have names like
alex kidd
ALLCAPS or whatever
etc.
peak wharf
I see
vivid heath
At first I was liking the changes to the upgrade system since it got rid of the tiered upgrade nonsense, but it has been replaced by an effectively p2w system with the bonus score based on amount of skins you have
Also, I feel like it’s too easy to get S ranks now? That might just be me though but my multiplier isn’t that high in the grand scheme of things (in the 600s for reference)
opal talon
Yeaaaaa.....game's cooked.
Everything happening to it as of late has been wholly annoying, frustrating, and reeks of both desperation and greed.
The game's still in an "exclusive" accessability position and isn't even fully realised, yet they're monotizing the fuck out of it
And it's only gonna get worse.
vivid heath
yeah, it's a shame because I actually like the gameplay a lot
but then they hit me with like 5 pop up ads after every match and it makes me realize it's going to be hard to onboard my friends who aren't sonic fans
vivid heath
not like mobile ads
shell walrus
yeah that sounds like Rovio alright
shell walrus
this is exactly why I stopped playing angry birds 2
vivid heath
also the superstar player thing is obnoxious as all get out. Wish you could disable that shit
brittle prism
like the bundle pop ups
even with those speed battle gives you what, two, maybe three IIRC?
(counting the annoying ass tails safe in that)
five is a whole other level
vivid heath
i might be exaggerating, it's probably closer to two or three
it might have also been the fact that they hit me with the season pass ads which are a one time thing as opposed to the other ones
quartz island
this is exactly why I stopped playing angry birds 2
I stopped cause they made a trial and error game that consumes playing stamina when you fail a level
Like yeah no
vivid heath
yeah, that ain't right
but anoyances aside, I've been liking the new game stuff that was added
and I do like that progession has been smoothed out, but there just a bunch of minor hassles that just stack on top of each other
and apparently the game was delayed again?
cloud sundial
BRO WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SCAM ASS SHIT
Oh I just saw it's only 30 but you know what I'm still gonna complain about it
jagged obsidian
BRO WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SCAM ASS SHIT
glossy plume
BRO WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SCAM ASS SHIT
buy more cards.......
woven jungle
Cuz I saw a bunch of "player-random-numbers"
i believe younger users dont get to choose their usernames though
and this is what the game gives them
knotty flicker
https://fixupx.com/Salty_Sealz/status/1920568514630270993
THATS WHAT IM SAYYYYYYYYYYYYING
how do we still dont know who composer of this game
knotty flicker
twilit dune
feel like it’s a superstars situation where they got whoever
saw someone mention that city escape sounds like kenichi tokoi
deep silo
https://vxtwitter.com/WaferKat/status/1920584764139938229
I was wondering why I didn't exactly vibe with this
deep silo
See now you're actively trying to make me hate on Rumble's OST
fickle sleet
I was wondering why I didn't exactly vibe with this
vivid heath
just logged into rumble and looking at character levels rn
check your mail, they refunded everything with the equivalent in the new currency as well as refunded all your rings
twilit dune
toru posting ‼️ https://fixupx.com/Toruyi/status/1920695039191024036
quartz island
Ever so closer to Sonic the Human
deep silo
Give me those hoodie fits in a proper mainline game you rubes!!!!
Also Prime goobers are in the files cuz of course they are
Including fucking Mr. Dr. Eggman or whatever his name was
No, sorry, || Infinite and Classic Sonic above Omega apparently ||
jagged obsidian
toru posting ‼️ https://fixupx.com/Toruyi/status/1920695039191024036
I actually don’t mind these alts
They give me a lot of neon y2k vibes
dense anchor
||forget Infinite and Classic Sonic before Omega, to me it's Infinite and Classic Sonic before launch||
knotty flicker
toru posting ‼️ https://fixupx.com/Toruyi/status/1920695039191024036
these skins in crossworlds trust
muted hawk
Hmm
Does anyone think the artstyle of rumble is kind of a
Mistake?
It makes all these costumes way less appealing
knotty flicker
i think tobe said this like 10 times already
muted hawk
Man this is Sad
Like this felt like a whatever mobile game, good for a quick play, but now im like yucked out
This delay just caused many to straight up tap out from it
Like i dont even mind being doomer about it cuz i do not care that much lol sonic is in a fine position now
Sonic fumble
Lmfao switch
glossy plume
dapper jetty
I feel like i've seen this before
shell walrus
tbf he’s one of the only people who could actually play it 😭
getting past those ads is a pretty BIG sell tho fadel
twilit dune
this was a year ago today
dapper jetty
🥹
hallow forge
Isn't tangle there
vivid heath
getting past those ads is a pretty BIG sell tho fadel
I feel like this is the biggest hurdle to overcome for mass appeal. The game itself is fun enough, but the ads are a big turn off and unless they let off the gas with how often they show you stuff, it's not going to end well for them
because honestly, the stuff that you purchase for real money in the game is actually decently priced compared to other mobile games, but it doesn't really matter when they're shoving ads in your face after every single match you do
deep silo
Isn't tangle there
Rumble? no
vivid heath
eh, idk why they didn't just allow us to make our own custom guy
it's not like the avatar guys are rare or anything
if anything they would be able to monetize cosmetics for your avatar. but don't tell rovio i said that
hallow forge
Feels like is the default skin
vivid heath
it's like a default skin that you have to unlock, but yeah I get what you mean
hallow forge
Anyways, idw will get there any time for sure
It took time for them to appear in speed battle
vivid heath
I don't have any reason to doubt that they'll appear at some point
it's just a matter of how long that'll be
vivid heath
considering we had a sega crossover recently, it's more indeterminate than your indicating imo
deep silo
and since it's an internal SEGA project, who knows how that's gonna work
brittle prism
nerds on the internet being able to see the financials of multi billion dollar companies was a mistake
Iizuka isn’t gonna cut you a cheque or give you a blowie luv
twilit dune
see normally i would agree with you
but i've seen fadel long enough that i genuinely think he's just in it for the love of the game
brittle prism
I thought u were gonna say iizuka would give him a blowie and i mean
yeah prolly honestly
deep silo
yeah I don't think Fadel cares enough about financials lmao
vivid heath
I don't so much have an issue with him promoting the game (I also enjoy it). I just don't care for the way it pushes it's monetization and he hasn't talked much on that front from what I've seen
deep silo
It's also, like, not a video, it's just a VoD where he yaps about random things for 2 hours and plays the game for 1 at best
vivid heath
that's fair
deep silo
I don't so much have an issue with him promoting the game (I also enjoy it). I j...
Oh no, he literally said "I better not see any of y'all complain about Mario Kart World pricing" when he was told the price of that baseball Amy skin
vivid heath
a $60 skin is actual insanity
vivid heath
the baseball amy skin cost 729 red rings. this would cost you 60 dollars of in game currency to obtain
and this is the "discounted" price
fickle sleet
Can you earn red rings in-game without purchases?
muted hawk
is the skin 60 bucks
fickle sleet
And what's the rate you can aquire them at
muted hawk
Can you buy without money at least
vivid heath
you could, but you'd have to save for a really long time
muted hawk
Like with ingame currency
vivid heath
you don't get red rings that frequently
deep silo
Can you earn red rings in-game without purchases?
Yes, but it's limited to challenge stages and leaderboard placements
muted hawk
At least is Something
fickle sleet
ashen knot
Can you earn red rings in-game without purchases?
yes
I have over 1300
fickle sleet
Is it a limited time skin ooooor
deep silo
Oh, also achievements
ashen knot
yes
fickle sleet
Wtf
deep silo
Yeah, no, if you want every single skin, you're taking out your wallet
vivid heath
At least is Something
even if you did that, it's something that you'd be saving to get at some point in the future. it's not the kind of thing you can earn over the course of a season
and by at some point in the future, i mean over the course of several months to a year
deep silo
I only bought rockstar rouge because I had enough red star rings to get her by that time
fickle sleet
Ok so they're flopping badly in following in Fortnite's footsteps
ashen knot
I'm waiting for another legendary knuckles to show up before I spend my rsr
vivid heath
the rate at which you earn red rings in this game is comically slow
honestly it's not something i thought of too much since there are far better offers for your money and you can get decent skins in the ring shop on occasion
but it is bad
tardy coral
Yeah those fuckass premium skins are such a scam
vivid heath
and it's even worse now since the amount of skins in combination with their rarity, is now what determines your score bonus
fickle sleet
Score bonus as in what you're awarded with from the match, or score as in what is required to be above other players on the podium?
tardy coral
Your score multipler basically
vivid heath
what you're awarded from the match. it determines end of season rankings iinm
vivid heath
podium rankings are still based on the amount of rings of course
tardy coral
Score is crucial to rack in points for the leaderboards
vivid heath
idk, I'm not a fan of rich get richer systems in games
fickle sleet
First time players will obviously have less payout but you want more time you put into the game to be rewarded
Rich get richer but everyone has an equal rate at becoming rich in this case
tardy coral
I suppose
fickle sleet
And do the season rankings reward red rings and such?
tardy coral
Yeah, along with level up items and a gold/silver/bronze banner for the season
peak wharf
the baseball amy skin cost 729 red rings. this would cost you 60 dollars of in g...
WHAAAAAT😭
fickle sleet
The Rumble economy....
It's the same thing with Fortnite battle passes not really being accessible for free unless you save up enough V bucks from the free rewards every season tbf
Not for the baseball skin
But the concept of the rich becoming richer by playing longer
vivid heath
yeah, except that once you get those vbucks you can grind the pass for free from that point onward
ashen knot
Score bonus as in what you're awarded with from the match, or score as in what i...
pretty much the equivalent to getting more trophies in speed battle
minus the ranks
vivid heath
yeah, except that once you get those vbucks you can grind the pass for free from...
rumble has no such system in place
fickle sleet
I don't play speed battle lol
ashen knot
oh
fickle sleet
rumble has no such system in place
But it has season passes right?
fickle sleet
Do those cost red rings or just real money
fickle sleet
Ah
ashen knot
the paid side has 30 rsr
fickle sleet
Well that sucks
ashen knot
on tier 90
vivid heath
12 and 14 dollars for the event and season pass respectively
vivid heath
ah right, at the max rank you do get like 30. My bad
fickle sleet
Well earning red star rings is only relevant if you can unlock the paid elements through RSR instead
At least when it comes to mirroring fortnite
vivid heath
it wouldn't even matter then since there's no way they'd be selling the battle pass for 30 red rings
ashen knot
the passes never even have legndary skins (the ones that are 999/729 rsr)
fickle sleet
Yeah true
But the main difference here is that you gain RSR from gameplay outside of those battle passes as well
vivid heath
not much and not often
in fact the main source is a one time affair
being the challenge stages
deep silo
Nope
fickle sleet
Weekly?
vivid heath
one time
deep silo
One time
fickle sleet
Oh as in like
glossy plume
Ok so they're flopping badly in following in Fortnite's footsteps
Skins in Fortnite aren't $60 each 😭
vivid heath
Single player one time?
single player and multiplayer with friends one time
so twice per stage
ashen knot
single player and multiplayer with friends one time
and then both in hard mode
vivid heath
yeah, so 4 times total
fickle sleet
Ah right I remember them now
ashen knot
5 each for easy and 10 each for hard
vivid heath
but then that's it
fickle sleet
So RSR are rewarded from challenges, rankings at the end of season
ashen knot
so 5+5+10+10
30 each stage
vivid heath
after that, you can pretty much only get them through acheivements and end of season rewards
fickle sleet
so 5+5+10+10
30 each stage
How do you have over 1000 then 😭
ashen knot
How do you have over 1000 then 😭
getting top 1% on almost every ranking so far
vivid heath
I would probably have a similar number if I didn't take a huge break
deep silo
there's a decent amount of stages, getting top 1% (which is actually kind of easier than you'd think rn)
vivid heath
i have like 652 myself
ashen knot
I even spent some on emotes before they were turned into skills
deep silo
and achievements early on give you a chunk
shell walrus
Oh no, he literally said "I better not see any of y'all complain about Mario Kar...
trash vs garbage
vivid heath
idk about that
deep silo
trash vs garbage
okay but speaking comparatively
vivid heath
it's no contest. 80 for a full feature game vs 60 for a single character skin is a very easy comparison and we should all know which is the better deal in terms of pure value
and this is coming from someone who has absolutely no plans of spending that kind of money on the base version of a game upfront (in my currency, that would be over 100 dollars)
if i'm spending 100+ dollars on a game upfront, if at any point dlc is announced, I should at least get the first wave of it for free
if i have those kind of standards for buying a game, i'm not buying a skin for anything more than like 10 dollars at most
and the battle pass even more so. if i'm spending like 12-15 dollars on a pass, that pass better last like 3 months and have a ton of rewards in it
maybe i've been spoiled through playing limbus company, but after playing that, I won't accept anything less in terms of overall quality with regards to monetization unless they're really doing something special, which they usually aren't
quartz island
The trick is that it's not really a direct comparison
1 is a flat pricing to play the game and 1 is to get a cosmetic with some buffs that gives u a very slight edge, and you can build up towards it too
ashen knot
guys we should all go to zetiland
vivid heath
to what now?
twilit dune
thanks knuckles
ashen knot
wrong channel
fickle sleet
Bro hopped over to Event Room
twilit dune
vivid heath
real and true
the only reason I can think as to why they delayed the release is so they could determine how the score bonus changes would land before full release
but if that was really their plan, they had so much time to implement it
shell walrus
genuinely, what the hell did they expect 😭
vivid heath
and even then, people who will be playing the game for the first time will now have missed out on not only a collab event but also a black knight event and who knows when those skins will come back if they even do at all
shell walrus
Every tweet they post now is met with a wave of “i can’t fucking play”
muted hawk
So stupid lol
vivid heath
i'm not going to fault the person in charge of the twitter. there's not really much they can do
but the people actually in charge of rumble are being so dumb right now
muted hawk
The people in charge are killing the game
quartz island
They honestly should release it asap
They can iron things later but like
They pinned themselves up against the wall
muted hawk
It should
They had a whole ass pc version
And they are just
Not gonna give that till june
vivid heath
the pc version being creator exclusive atm just pisses me off ngl
muted hawk
It is awful
Makes no sense
The pc version is literally their best shot st success
Idfk what people in charge of runners want tbh
vivid heath
doesn't help that every once in a while it'll tell me that I actually played a game with jimmy no subs who is a sonic creator which only further makes me dislike the creators for no reason
muted hawk
True
knotty flicker
who the hell is aura blue
knotty flicker
lmao
peak wharf
The funny thing about live-service games is that they update as the game goes on
Imagine if Fortnite released in 2027 instead of 2016 or something
vivid heath
Considering Fortnite is almost directly responsible for a lot of the current climate surrounding live service, I genuinely can’t imagine it
Well, we wouldn’t have had to deal with things like concord or anthem for starters
fickle sleet
Sonic Team just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but customer service is a huge part of it. It's not like it is in Europe where you can become successful by ignoring the customer. If you screw someone over in America, you bring the game down with you, and the only way to get rid of the negative consequence is by allowing the customer to speak to the higher-ups.
What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to download Sonic Rumble for either system, nor will they download any of Sonic Team's mobile games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sonic Team has alienated an entire market with this move.
Sonic Team, publicly apologize and release Sonic Rumble for the United States or you can kiss your business goodbye.
shell walrus
it wasn’t until the end when I realized this was a copypasta
deep silo
Sonic Team just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of y...
This is what I meant when I said you're a resetera user
twilit dune
i like how it's framed as if being an expert in american culture is a good thing
ashen knot
Sonic Team just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but customer service is a huge part of it. It's not like it is in Europe where you can become successful by ignoring the customer. If you screw someone over in America, you bring the game down with you, and the only way to get rid of the negative consequence is by allowing the customer to speak to the higher-ups.
What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to download Sonic Rumble for either system, nor will they download any of Sonic Team's mobile games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sonic Team has alienated an entire market with this move.
Sonic Team, publicly apologize and release Sonic Rumble for the United States or you can kiss your business goodbye.
quartz island
Sonic Team just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but customer service is a huge part of it. It's not like it is in Europe where you can become successful by ignoring the customer. If you screw someone over in America, you bring the game down with you, and the only way to get rid of the negative consequence is by allowing the customer to speak to the higher-ups.
What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to download Sonic Rumble for either system, nor will they download any of Sonic Team's mobile games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sonic Team has alienated an entire market with this move.
Sonic Team, publicly apologize and release Sonic Rumble for the United States or you can kiss your business goodbye.
knotty flicker
Sonic Team just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but customer service is a huge part of it. It's not like it is in Europe where you can become successful by ignoring the customer. If you screw someone over in America, you bring the game down with you, and the only way to get rid of the negative consequence is by allowing the customer to speak to the higher-ups.
What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to download Sonic Rumble for either system, nor will they download any of Sonic Team's mobile games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sonic Team has alienated an entire market with this move.
Sonic Team, publicly apologize and release Sonic Rumble for the United States or you can kiss your business goodbye.
"has alienated an entire market with this move." i love how this implies that delaying rumble is insult to america
like this country never gonna recover from this
vivid heath
i like how it's framed as if being an expert in american culture is a good thing
i mean, there's nothing explicitly wrong with being knowledgable in the subject
tardy coral
Esp since if anything happens in America, it affects the rest of the world
vivid heath
unfortunately, that is the case to a certain extent
hasty vortex
tardy coral
S Ranks are easier than they’ve ever been now looool
shell walrus
Played the game for the first time in months today
twilit dune
does it deserve to have themselves shot in the foot because i don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (i'm an expert), but customer service is a huge part of it. it's not like it is in Europe where you can become successful by ignoring the customer. if you screw someone over in America, you bring the ga
wow
shell walrus
Played the game for the first time in months today
Maybe im still just ass at the game but why would anybody want to play this on a phone
did fall guys have high numbers on iOS?
fickle sleet
Are you an ipad kid
Or a PC prepubescent
@twilit dune take the skull off... NOW!!!
ashen knot
android man
fickle sleet
fuck
twilit dune
<@549343352085151754> take the skull off... NOW!!!
shell walrus
Are you an ipad kid
what if hypothetically I was both once upon a time
fickle sleet
oh
nocturne belfry
shell walrus
anyway uh i was already not a huge fan of directional touch controls but i at least understood why you have them for something like the classic games and 4
twilit dune
playing minecraft pe on me ipad air 2 in 2014
ashen knot
shell walrus
but with the nature of the display as is I don’t get why rumble doesn’t have tap controls of any kind
nocturne belfry
playing minecraft pe on me ipad air 2 in 2014
Minecraft…..
shell walrus
the primary way most people are experiencing this game right now is mobile after all, doesn’t it make more sense to have something closer to actual mobile games?
fickle sleet
Wait, rumble doesn't have touch controls????
shell walrus
idk maybe it’s just a skill issue on my part but I just found it frustrating to handle after a certain point
twilit dune
is directional controls no longer hip with the kids
quartz island
Wait, rumble doesn't have touch controls????
Why has this conclusion been drawn
shell walrus
I should’ve been more specific
quartz island
It was a dyslexia style typo
ashen knot
I HAVE BEEN FORSAKEN
shell walrus
I HAVE BEEN FORSAKEN
twilit dune
let this be a lesson dexter
nocturne belfry
https://tenor.com/view/chimkn-chicken-shedletsky-forsaken-roblox-gif-41934348996...
I would love to eat that
twilit dune
never trust anyone but yourself
fickle sleet
This si true
nocturne belfry
what if you can’t trust yourself
ashen knot
si
nocturne belfry
what if you can’t trust yourself
Then you have to trust others
fickle sleet
what if you can’t trust yourself
Then drown in an endless see of confusion like myself
shell walrus
Then drown in an endless see of confusion like myself
venom speech bubble
nocturne belfry
Then drown in an endless see of confusion like myself
What if someone was there with a boat to get you out of the sea
fickle sleet
You mean like a lifeguard
nocturne belfry
ye
fickle sleet
but with the nature of the display as is I don’t get why rumble doesn’t have tap...
Ok but what do you mean by tap controls tho
Oh wait is it like
The kind of games where you tap somewhere on the screen and the character moves towards that point?
nocturne belfry
Yea those
fickle sleet
Hmmmm
ashen knot
that would be pain
shell walrus
The kind of games where you tap somewhere on the screen and the character moves ...
yea
twilit dune
i think this shows how little mobile games i've played because i don't remember any like this
shell walrus
the one that comes to mind immediately to me is like angry birds and stuff
I’d have to check because it’s been several years but i could’ve sworn Go! worked similar to what im thinking of
fickle sleet
My only point of reference is using the control style to negatively describe anything being automatically done for you 💀
"Would you enjoy playing a platformer if you clicked somewhere on the map and your character just... travelled over to it?"
nocturne belfry
no
fickle sleet
Obviously it makes a lot more sense for mobile stuff
But I guess the same argument could be made in terms of which is more fun
shell walrus
Yeah I wouldn’t really care if the main version of the game they were pushing was PC instead of mobile
jagged obsidian
ok im just gonna say it
i dont like how Rumble looks visually
it looks kinda generic and uninteresting and i dont like it
shell walrus
chibi-fied sonic lost world
quartz island
It's just toy story
shell walrus
im starting to get real sick of seeing these rumble models everywhere
quartz island
With no story
fickle sleet
The rumble models are visually interesting to anyone who is tired of seeing the same 2005 renders everywhere, it's fine
Any CASUAL
My fault
quartz island
I don't think so
shell walrus
That face is awful bro
quartz island
I feel casuals would eat the normal look more
shell walrus
He looks like the exaggerated drawings people make on Twitter that aren’t actually modern sonic but are trying to be
jagged obsidian
He looks like the exaggerated drawings people make on Twitter that aren’t actual...
exactly
i dislike it personally
and im someone who doesn't mind the current model if its used well
fickle sleet
Would this have been better
shell walrus
Would this have been better
yes!!
vivid heath
eh, I don't really have too much issue with the way the current models look. if anything the above model wouldn't mesh as well with the aesthetic compared to what we have now imo
my issue with the models is that there's no cloth physics for skirts and the like so there's a lot of unnecessary clipping during certain animations
twilit dune
fizzle downloads forces speed battle for the first time since he was a high school freshman
ian flynn...
muted hawk
Damn hes everywhere…
jagged obsidian
ian flynn...
is burning blaze new too?
tardy coral
No, she’s been around
jagged obsidian
ah ok
deep silo
ok they actually did give a decent purpose to the Crews system
you just get a shitton more rewards if you're in an active enough crew
austere pagoda
you just get a shitton more rewards if you're in an active enough crew
so what you're saying is, we need to start a tc crew
deep silo
Already exists
Thank Dakii for that
somewhat unrelated - I FUCKING HATE TEAM MODES
THEY SUCK DUE TO HOW LAGGY EVERY PHYSICS OBJECT IS
tardy coral
Pushing balls into holes sucks esp if ur team is ass
slender lodge
All TRUE
ashen knot
Join my crew"Knuckles Squad" 
muted hawk
they are really depending so much on rumble
Maaaaan
I seen this shit before
So many times
Soooooo many timeeeeees
F2P is a fucking stain
I doubt it
I fucking doubt it
I think they really wanna get the casual audience but i dont think its gonna be as simple to pick up as dash
I think their best bet is multiplatform
Pc, and on consoles
peak wharf
Well there's going to be the steam release, but more kids are probably either going to be on switch or their tablets most of the time
And I doubt there's going to be a substantial audience on Xbox
brittle prism
reckon a switch/switch 2 version's inevitable, yeah
prooooobably other consoles too tbh
feature creep: the mobile game
slow veldt
Yeah
muted hawk
I dont get why cant we do a switch release and make it run flawlessly
slow veldt
Initially, because the Game was built with only cellphones in mind
Adapting those capacities to the switch is another process
Hopefully it can be released as soon as possible though
muted hawk
But still it works on pc
It is a very light game
You can play it with a controller
They want to get all this money just put the effort on a console release
woven jungle
they could just remove the ad rewards or plaster their own ads in
hallow forge
I wonder if it'll work
The game on switch, no the ads 😭
I know is mobile and all so they want lot of people to play it but the game looks...
deep silo
they could just remove the ad rewards or plaster their own ads in
They'll do the former if PC build is to go by
muted hawk
The game on switch, no the ads 😭
They can, it is really not that taxing of a game
It has everything to work decently in switch
hallow forge
They should push those graphics up
muted hawk
Switch 1 even
woven jungle
it feels like this game can run better on mobile though
brittle prism
The game on switch, no the ads 😭
if it can run fort it can run this I’m p sure
woven jungle
i still need to turn the graphics settings down (even though this doesn't look that intensive!!) on a device with an apple m2 chip
was expecting better
brittle prism
(and if the switch 1 somehow can’t, the switch 2 def can)
(granted I won’t be putting this thing anywhere near my switch 1 or 2 lol, but still)
hallow forge
if it can run fort it can run this I’m p sure
Not how it runs, I'm talking about the appeal of it
brittle prism
ohhhh right
deep silo
if it can run fort it can run this I’m p sure
Last I've heard no it fucking can't lmao
brittle prism
I mean I’ll be real if it bombs it’s bombing on every platform lol
muted hawk
You didnt have anything about appeal
woven jungle
The game on switch, no the ads 😭
maybe they'll actually get off their ass and remove the touch controls when a controller is connected...
hallow forge
This game looks like a mobile game (for obvious reasons)
deep silo
I'll go against the current and say it'll do fine
muted hawk
I think they would be better with like a typical artstyle but whatever lol
hallow forge
The art style is fine, it works
brittle prism
I give it a year tops
hallow forge
But graphics wise the game looks like shite 😭
brittle prism
it’s no hyenas for sure, but it’s no speed battle
muted hawk
They are really not that bad the graphics are fine
brittle prism
it’ll do about how runners did
muted hawk
Its meant to work on low end phones
hallow forge
If you're gonna play on mobile is whatever but for console on PC
muted hawk
Whats the problem
brittle prism
But graphics wise the game looks like shite 😭
I do not think the graphics will solve it just not looking very fun ngl lol
brittle prism
it looks kinda slow and tedious and not all that fun
hallow forge
But a glow up wouldn't hurt personally, and there is games that aren't crazy graphics and look good like dream team
brittle prism
Haven’t played it here yet but I keep looking at the footage, looking back at fzero 99 and just wanting to play more fzero 99
muted hawk
Rumble looks basic but all it needs is good performance
brittle prism
99’s fast, snappy, you can slam straight into races super-quick and its frantic fun
Rumble is….. none of those things lol
every time I look at footage half of it is the roulette for selecting the next round going across the screen
hallow forge
Is still getting decent numbers in views ig
100+k
Is not a million but it still catches people eye
deep silo
Already explained - they remove the ads
hallow forge
Tell em bob
peak wharf
The game would've dropped by now
muted hawk
So mad at them lmfao
I can play it rn
And it works just fine
But for some reason they are locking it up for most people
So dumb
muted hawk
It is! Its really not that hype
peak wharf
But it's fine for like 10 minutes at a time
muted hawk
Or that Pick up and play like
Its fine for 10 minutes
But im not interested in more than that
I think casuals will rather play dash
Where you just swipe around in portrait mode
brittle prism
yeah, think dash (and speed battle by extension) just have a lower bar of entry by design that I think gives em the edge
even runners, with everything they slammed on top of it, still had a v basic core
rumble tho? So much going on and even now they’re adding new gameplay mechanics at the last minute, feature creep all the way down
muted hawk
In the era of tiktok attention span this is not gonna do well as they hope to
There is not even like hoyoverse appeal where near all its appeal is to people to goon
Obviously
fickle sleet
Aren't all the Fall Guys clones doing well in spite of tiktok attention span?
muted hawk
This proabbly hs been a project for 6 years in the making
And its a little late once they are done with it
Things change fast
Yea
Kids will just play stumble guys instead
Captalizing on an existing market can be a crap shute if you take so long to develop
This is the issue with mobile games for me
They take a fuck ton of time to develop
And then when its out the whole world is different
From 6 years ago
Id say thats the best kind of mobile games style for a reason
You can swipe around with one hand, simple to understand
I dont like it lmao
I kinda want it to not do so good
I dont want sega to lose money cu that means less quality in mainline titles
BUT AT THE SAME TIME
True
Fuck it lmao
So much for an rpg mobile game rumor….
peak wharf
We still got Blitz
brittle prism
I kinda want it to not do so good
I think if it was just the gameplay being meh I’d be whatever
with the monetisation tho? Nah it needs to bomb like, yesterday lmao
straight in the bin please and thankyou
fickle sleet
My mindset regarding the monetization still depends on the economy they make for it; idk the specifics but it sounded like the crews feature gave out a lot of rewards recently?
Though if it offers no red rings then that's that then
muted hawk
Yep
I just know im petty
And its not doing much for me at all
I know what i know and like
They should have done a sonic rpg instead
I mean id take it over nothing
fickle sleet
If it was a gatcha it might work
muted hawk
But console rpg would be everythint to me
But at this point frontiers 2 might as well Be an action rpg lmao
Yes
It has to
fickle sleet
Finally, the Sonic cast with Prime-tier animation...
brittle prism
I think whether it actually does well depends on how much sega pumped into it
muted hawk
Boob physics for everything
fickle sleet
Boob physics for all
muted hawk
Knuckles moves and his muzzle bounces
brittle prism
I think whether it actually does well depends on how much sega pumped into it
Like, I think it’ll have passable player counts but if they spent the world and then some on it then it won’t be enough
fickle sleet
I think whether it actually does well depends on how much sega pumped into it
Oh they've definitely placed a lot of cards on it
muted hawk
Yea and its not worth it lmfaooo
The game doesnt have that hype feel for anything is just sonic toy land
Fall guys clone at its finest
fickle sleet
That 20 billion increase in F2P revenue is planned for FY2026
Which we're in rn
And if we're only at 47 billion yen for FY2025
They're really counting on Sonic and Persona to boost those numbers back up
hallow forge
They're really counting on Sonic and Persona to boost those numbers back up
Persona game can get that boost
The new persona 5 will probably get a lot of people since is basically just like any other persona game but with gacha on it
Is basically a full game but online
Is really appealing, meanwhile with rumble uhhh
I think something like speed sim could work for a multiplayer, just bigger ofc
You can put the avatar on it as the mc
vivid heath
Do people not like the gameplay of rumble or something? /gen
twilit dune
Idk whenever I see creators or when I ask dakiii they usually say it’s fun
vivid heath
That's pretty much where I am too
There are a bunch of annoyances on the monetization side, but in terms of the core gameplay, i enjoy it
vivid heath
rip
it's available in canada so I've been playing off and on. Been playing a lot more as of late
tardy coral
Yeah the general gameplay of Rumble is fun
slow veldt
Fadel says it's very fun
and while he is the sonic guy, he is vocal about when a game isn't fun for him be sonic or otherwise
(ergo how he slandered the hell out of heroes in the race against sam, secret rings review points out how he feels that the game was hurting him, neither likes lost world or forces)
vivid heath
Fadel has always given me the impression of being enthusiastic but genuine
slow veldt
In his streams, he goes more in-depth about his thoughts on something
yes
like in shadow 05's case, he says it's a good game if you play it very casually
but it becomes tiresome if you wish to go deeper than that
peak wharf
So are there any added perks to the skins and characters in Rumble or nah
deep silo
Other than score percentage for the leaderboards - no, not really
fickle sleet
twilit dune
good ol aurablue
dapper jetty
Who
tardy coral
Number one Rumble hater
hallow forge
Rumbros...
deep silo
btw it's outing your ass in the Crew if you buy battlepass and subscriptions
hallow forge
lol
vivid heath
Rumble Rankings are now live ingame
I’m actually ok with this since it’s an actual somewhat consistent way of getting red rings
fickle sleet
tardy coral
btw it's outing your ass in the Crew if you buy battlepass and subscriptions
I wanted the Red Rings idgaf
brittle prism
btw it's outing your ass in the Crew if you buy battlepass and subscriptions
least surprising individual to be buying sonic mobile game subs I'm afraid
dapper jetty
Number one Rumble hater
tardy coral
Yeah
slender lodge
Says game is out of my territory
tardy coral
Canadian
slender lodge
tardy coral
I could literally buy Percival just to spite you
deep silo
It should out you for that as well and give everyone 3000 more rings
deep silo
So uhhhh, since creators are getting skins for free and shit, does that mean they're at an inherent advantage when it comes to comp.rankings?
As long as they actually play the game I mean
slender lodge
So uhhhh, since creators are getting skins for free and shit, does that mean the...
Tbh so far it has only been the SEGA collab pass.
deep silo
Oh
slender lodge
Thats why im so upset i cant buy shit rn, i literally cannot get percival
deep silo
Huh, weird
slender lodge
Gamers!!
I NEED
3 of you
To do the challenge stages
And then MAYBE i can get percival
tardy coral
I’m down
peak wharf
I would, but I'm not a gamer, I'm a politician