#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation

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untold kayak
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when Giggex had way more spread out works

stiff salmon
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yeah

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giggex hightlighted dark beginnings

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and the IGN live thing is making me feel something's very off

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animated series led by flynn + stanley that immediately kicks off frontwos's plot

silent haven
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award winning animation related to an extremely popular franchise

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i don’t know if we should be looking too deep into this 😭

stiff salmon
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so that's why the alarm bells are kinda going off rn 😭

untold kayak
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They also worked on a feature film

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not sure if it is popular admittedly

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but they do have something of big leagues on their back

silent haven
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even if they are working on something sonic (which isn’t exactly unlikely i’ll admit)
assuming the job listing is related, that work period feels way too short for it to be anything except another web animation vectorRunners

dawn pumice
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It’s just gonna be an animation for the next game

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But

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I do believe it’ll be like a 3-4 15 min episode series

cunning echo
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Animation for this year...sonic frontiers 2 is this year...

dawn pumice
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I’m also gonna say it’s gonna be the nuttiest animation they’ve done

silent haven
cunning echo
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Episode sage

sick bobcat
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Frontiers DE gets a new animation

autumn yacht
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there's no way they'll make animation that long

coarse ferry
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I think there is a good chance they will

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Ever since SXSG they have been consistently slowly increasing their budget and with the next game being a far bigger scaled, no doubt they'll push it much harder than both SXSG and Frontiers

ember junco
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They’re gonna do an animation for the Episode Metal new side story lock in

stiff salmon
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you think they'll remake the prologue?

coarse ferry
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I see no reason

dawn pumice
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They ain’t gonna do anything for the frontiers de

coarse ferry
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Even if they do why will they change anything over Prologue if people highly praised it?

strange estuary
stiff salmon
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i dont believe they'll do it but

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this is sega

coarse ferry
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Even so what they'll even add?

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Like the glimpse of Angel Island with Knuckles nowhere to be seen?

strange estuary
smoky summit
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IT'S TIME TO FACE YOUR FEARS

stiff salmon
oblique plank
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What if

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They add in lives into Frontiers

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Because extra life icon

torn trench
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Imagine all they add is a proper Ares flashback

wheat kindle
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Yeah probably some new animation for the games since Dark Beginnings was so popular and well made, giving GIGGEX more projects is a cool thing, with our main writers

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If Roger is involved and the announcement is tied to the IGN live, it's game related, like an animation for the games as usual

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It must be more substancial than the last animation, the Crossworlds animation was barely hyped iirc, compared to Dark Beginnings

rocky leaf
lunar trench
prime hearth
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moving her mask out of the way to play forehead noughts and crosses

humble drum
humble drum
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Time for a tidal wave

still epoch
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Yep

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All expected

silent haven
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stand your ground tomato boy

rugged otter
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a

wise chasm
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|| >Tikal is a pass ||
throwing up

pulsar horizon
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Still no sign of MHA 🫩

rugged otter
silent haven
pulsar horizon
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Yea because Care Bears and Smurfs will definitely bring in players obv

silent haven
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yeah exactly

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aint no way they were desperate enough to pull out the back to back smurfs/care bears combo and not MHA if they could've

rugged otter
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unless they're saving mha for when only less than two digits are playing...

pulsar horizon
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That or they have another anime collab in the works

safe hull
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Mephiles, Chaos, Tikal and Infinite all before Omega I am gonna ensure this Sonic Rumble Party™ comes to an end

wide portal
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oh boy the last time Tikal suddenly showed up as a surprise character in a mobile game developed partially by SOJ it didn’t end well

prime hearth
wide portal
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I like the hoodie

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uh don’t show this image to sonic twitter it’ll auto-generate 15 long rants about electricity and sonic

smoky summit
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Orca time

prime hearth
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hoodie could be cool but I think it should be instead of the scouter/gauntlets instead of with em

humble drum
prime hearth
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otherwise it just turns into

humble drum
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Seems like they are making them all stickers

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Big clock hat should have beaten catdow

fossil echo
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Kitsunami L

humble drum
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Now if eggman makes these toys how does he know mephiles

fossil echo
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mephiles and infinite believers keep winning lol

fossil echo
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Maybe roblox canon

humble drum
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Mephiles aint in speed sim

fossil echo
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Not yet

prime hearth
fossil echo
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Anyways finally theyre doing the fan contest skin

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Its neat we get both

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And not just cat shadow

humble drum
fossil echo
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Peacock sonic looks cool

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Or wait, all those stickers were fan contest outfits weren't they

humble drum
fossil echo
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You think they'll be eventually be made into skins diwn the line or they'll only be stickers?

humble drum
fossil echo
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Ah shame

wide portal
# humble drum Now if eggman makes these toys how does he know mephiles

everybody in the sonic universe just randomly remembers 06 at very specific intervals, so in one of those intervals Eggman jointed down his memory of Mephiles’ desi—I just realized I don’t think either of them actually interacted face to face

06 you ruined my fucking joke I hate you

untold kayak
untold kayak
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Though

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if we run into specifics

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in Gens, Eggman brought Crisis city for whatever reason

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so probably he found out about Mephiles through that

modest parcel
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If Eggman knows about King Arthur Sonic, does that mean all Knights of the Round Table feature Sonic now

untold kayak
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so most likely lmao

mental cargo
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sick leaks

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love em very cool characters

verbal tundra
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Oh wait they still put the other costumes in as stickers

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That’s cool asf

grand cobalt
safe hull
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If only

strange estuary
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I didn't expect Mephiles

rugged otter
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i didn't expect infinite

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maybe likewise for chaos, idk

coarse ferry
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Chaos and Tikal 🗿

strange estuary
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I could've seen those coming from a mile away

rugged otter
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i just think it's funny how with each addition, omega sounds less and less expected

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one day a chibi toy metal overlord will happen before omega

grand cobalt
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does he know

coarse ferry
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Omega fans can't catch a break 😔

sick bobcat
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Omega, forever a third wheel and forgotten 😔

rugged otter
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can i at least have a toy chaos gamma

coarse ferry
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Absolute pain

strange estuary
sick bobcat
coarse ferry
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saaaaaaame

oblique plank
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INFINITE LETS GOOO

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AND MEPHILES

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YOOO

naive geyser
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YEAAAAAAH

ember junco
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I can’t lie

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I kinda wrote off Mephiles getting into the game because they wanted this to be canon

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But let’s fucking go???????

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We cannot stop winning

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Ngl

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Kinda weird they’re not using Rubyless Infinite

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Like wouldn’t it make more sense to push that design?

silent haven
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anyone can get 'in' because they're all just toys in game canon

strange estuary
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They've used that design since the Chaotix Files

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Oh wait, I misread

ember junco
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Since it’s canon unlike Speed Battle how’d Eggman remember Mephiles

strange estuary
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I don't think this is really canon, at least not the way you think it is

coarse ferry
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Yeah how the hell he found out about Mephiles?

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💀

naive geyser
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Shhhh dont worry about it

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Though for real

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I feel like this can be a hand wavey “the eggmen were stuck in white space long enough to learn about him”

ember junco
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Ultimately it ain’t a huge deal

silent haven
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funny answer: blame time eater bc crisis city is in gens
less funny answer: he saw him on a monitor at some point in 06 or something idk

humble drum
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eggman used the healing power of smurf magic (he'll be dying very soon)

ember junco
coarse ferry
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You know what yeah

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Considering with Time Eater

oblique plank
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Oh yeah wait a minute

ember junco
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Yeah iirc didn’t Time Eater specifically pull moments from Shadow and Sonic’s timelines

rugged otter
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time eater will be playable before omega

oblique plank
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How the hell did Eggman get a figure of Mephiles

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If he doesn’t even remember him

ember junco
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So maybe Eggman could like peer into Shadow’s stuff

coarse ferry
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Eggman probably went like "who?" And just treated as another pawn for an excuse to defeat Sonic lmao

strange estuary
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I don't think they'd be able to know who Mephiles is without getting in his time chamber

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Literally no one remembers him

rugged otter
ember junco
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Wait holdon

oblique plank
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What if Eggman treats his Mephiles figure as a sort of fanmade super Sonic

ember junco
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Lemme cook

rugged otter
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internally he called it "Shadow action figure - frosty edition"

ember junco
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Classic Eggman sees Mephiles and Iblis and then later down the line remembers them and that’s why Eggman went to Soliana in the first place

stark marsh
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i swear that if those icon emotes are just shoutouts and nothing more im going to be very sad.

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because i VERY MUCH wanted that Kitsune skin

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only for Mr. Glaze himself to win it all anyways

ember junco
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Ngl I’m kinda surprised they even did anything for the runner ups

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Like I thought it was just the winner gets the skin in the game

rugged edge
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Sigh fake leakers these days

safe hull
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Game key for 2 dreamcast games I can't

untold kayak
rugged edge
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“Dumbass” like bro we know it’s fake 😭✌️

safe hull
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That split for the boxart is also just terrible

rugged edge
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Exactly

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SEGA could do way better than that

safe hull
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It'd be a solid line and have some stupid title like the SONIC ADVENTURE 2-PACK

rugged edge
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It’s out of order

safe hull
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It's not AI

rugged edge
rugged edge
rugged edge
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Ok I must’ve been tripping

safe hull
silent haven
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shit my bad

rugged edge
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Sonic Adventure 1+2 Deluxe Edition

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Heh get the reference

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Sonic

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Frontiers

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Deluxe

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Edition

safe hull
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featuring new funky mode

rugged edge
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Anyways what happen to SFDE

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Did it get debunked or smth

prime hearth
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its 100% legit considering its from a rating board

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we just don't know what it actually is

rugged edge
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I mean…….it might be a switch 2 port..

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Think abt it

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Why would frontiers suddenly get a new game 4 smth years later

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I mean yea final horizons but that was planned dlc

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Unless there doing a SFDE to plan for SF2

prime hearth
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filler release to make up for the lack of frontiers 2 most likely

safe hull
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Just be a free update for PC please

prime hearth
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partially cos they know we wouldn't last for a year without a game without going feral, but mostly cos investors

rugged edge
prime hearth
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investors likey sonic game releases

rugged edge
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Should we do a always bet on SFDE bingo board to replace SF2 for now

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I feel like all I want for SFDE is
• Shadow DLC that is connected with Shadow Gens
• Tails, Knuckles and Amy playable in other worlds after you beat the story
• Replace the ending with the horizons ending

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Idk what else

strange estuary
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Would they really replace the original ending?

prime hearth
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god I fuckin hope not lol

untold kayak
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I don't think they will do it

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specially because final horizon was thought as an alternate ending

rugged edge
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I see the Shadow dlc happening ngl

safe hull
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SHADOW EXCLUSIVE Cyberspace levels YEAAAAA

rugged edge
sick bobcat
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I'm hoping for a Metal Sonic side story for Frontiers DE

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give me that Sonic 4 synergy

silent haven
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metal + orbot/cubot side story to tie into the movie AND build off the like 3 times they've interacted with each other

deep spire
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It's kinda funny I think Frontiers is one of the few games where Eggman just doesn't have Orbot and Cubot with him, I forget if they explained that or not

sick bobcat
strange estuary
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So like in that one animation short?

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Sure, I guess

untold kayak
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as shown in the prequel comic convergence

deep spire
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Oh right!

humble drum
coarse ferry
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They’ll probably find a way to go like “how I make this about shadow” lore in sa1 story

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🙂 👍

humble drum
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I will accept it if mecha mk3 gets a story as well

coarse ferry
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Same

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Altho sa1 is a type of game where you could easily add more content

dusty osprey
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Well...

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Hmm

coarse ferry
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I’m just joking, but legit. Keep sa2 related out of sa1 and use past sonic games before sa1 instead

dusty osprey
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Let me ask you all a knuckles related question. How long ago are those flashbacks in sa1

coarse ferry
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I think they are like 1000 years ago which honestly they should expand that more

dusty osprey
coarse ferry
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Oh no not what I mean. More like small references and such

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With like the Badniks in general

dusty osprey
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Ah ok ok

coarse ferry
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Ye 🫡

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But as for sa1 itself. There’s a lot they could easily add more that were left out

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Like with the dragon in sky chase, chaos 3,5, and such

dusty osprey
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Oh yeah

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Also i mean

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If they wanted to get funky

sick bobcat
dusty osprey
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Flash back emerl fight in 3d

coarse ferry
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Oh that’ll be raw af

dusty osprey
# coarse ferry Oh that’ll be raw af

Thats the most "sa2"/gerald related shit i could see happening. Beyond again the echidina stuff takes place at the exact time as blackdoom being on earth

Or as @sick bobcat suggests litteral time travel. Which might not be off the table because of the films. In the sense of shadow may fight chaos at some point in a movie?

But i feel like what might be better to forshadow with all the echidina stuff if they wanted to is again emerl or the frontiers stuff

coarse ferry
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That’s something I hope they do because the echidna lore is not used much as of yet in the game series

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Closest we have after sa1 is chronicles and that ship has sailed

dusty osprey
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The ship exploded and died

coarse ferry
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pretty much

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Hopefulyl frontiers will give us another chance

hasty schooner
coarse ferry
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Either one works really

hasty schooner
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My dream topics to cover in future Sonic games:

  1. The Ancients' God
  2. More Ancients
  3. Third Great Civilization
forest fractal
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We don’t really know about the Fourth outside that Emerl was created by em so I wouldn’t mind an expansion of them either

hasty schooner
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Also true yes

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Hell we barely know about the Gaian civilization

forest fractal
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But idk Casefiles kinda made me skeptical if the ancient history will amount to anything since the Lenses were kinda just the macguffin of that show and the Gaians made em but nothing else to really contextualize em in that culture

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I just really hate how they mention the Gaians and did nothing with that connection. It didn’t add anything

grand cobalt
hasty schooner
coarse ferry
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But if they are going to do something liek that I hope Knuckles is more involved because one of the main thing I miss is his treasure hunting day

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Zero Gravity was the only time outside of emerald shard hunting that shows that and I wanted them to do more of that over his char

forest fractal
wide portal
forest fractal
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If we combine the collective IQ in this server, it would still be in the negative

wide portal
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don’t you want to reverse the first one

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then why do it again

untold kayak
forest fractal
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I got more out of Unleashed’s brief details than I ever did on Casefiles plus back then, there was never that much of a push for lore in Sonic anyway but I can infer a lot of details from that game

untold kayak
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Plus I like some Unleashed rep. Between this and Metstli's culture somehow existing in Spagonia complex, its neat

forest fractal
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Was Metstli involved with Spagonia? I don’t recall any sort of connection there

untold kayak
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They went to the laboratory of spagonia to find Tails and he told them the location of the ruins

hasty schooner
hasty schooner
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Me to the alien symbol floating in the sky: you come here often hehehe

coarse ferry
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Honestly I am fine with how Gaia lore is handled as it is. Like babylon, I feel like it's already established enough as it is

forest fractal
hasty schooner
coarse ferry
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Also helps that there is essentially both Light Gaia and Dark Gaia. No need to expand any further than that

forest fractal
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Sykkuno

lunar trench
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I still think the ancients are kind of a failure as a ancient species, but that's entirely's sonic team fault tbh

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Visuals, story, lore, all of it is so so dissapointing

hasty schooner
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you wouldn't understand

forest fractal
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Please I can handle those curves like a pro

hasty schooner
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like a bro

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LIKE A BRO

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BROOOOOOOOOOOO

lunar trench
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Ancient symbol nsfw?

hasty schooner
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

forest fractal
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Shee

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SHEEEEEE

lunar trench
forest fractal
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YOU DIDNT SEE NOTHING

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IT WAS A MISINPUT

hasty schooner
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nope it's too late you're an anime protagonist now

forest fractal
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YOU CALM THE FUCK DOWN

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ITS A MISINPUT

hasty schooner
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Oh stop yelling and read Rent a Girlfriend or whatever

forest fractal
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That’s disgusting, I wouldn’t dare read such trash out of my own volition

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Besides I’m not an anime protagonist, people love em

hasty schooner
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do they now

forest fractal
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Well yeah what people don’t love an anime protagonist?

grand cobalt
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Their lore being explained through PNGs does suck ass though vectorRunners

forest fractal
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Frontiers had dogshit presentation wbk

coarse ferry
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The PNGs are stupid af lmao, but yeah I do like how the ancients are handled writing wise

forest fractal
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They really did the lazy way of introducing an ancient race where they’re from a different planet and allat. I can respect Ian’s pitch to make em related to Chaos at least.

grand cobalt
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what the fuck is a wbk 😭

forest fractal
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We been knew

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Omg bruh

grand cobalt
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making anything slang nowadays

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just say it

forest fractal
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ITS AN OLD SLANG

coarse ferry
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💀

grand cobalt
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I have not seen a SINGLE person in my 20 years of life use it

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so therefore

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it doesn’t exist !

forest fractal
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Might have to start saying lowkenuinely atp

forest fractal
grand cobalt
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real talk tho making them related to Chaos and the chao saved them because otherwise I think most people wouldn’t gaf

forest fractal
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Yeah

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I kinda just wish Sage looked a bit like an Ancient tbh tho

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It seems like they finalized her design before the pivot

hasty schooner
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Them being deevolved raises a lot of interesting questions

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Something they could touch on if they wanted to

wide portal
hasty schooner
wide portal
forest fractal
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It’s not really deevolved tbh. Their bodies as is struggled to adapt in Earth so over generations their bodies had to adapt. Just that Darwin type shit

wide portal
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because I’m not sure about the correlation there

coarse ferry
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It works well because Chaos 0's origin barely exist so it's easy enough for them to use the Ancients

hasty schooner
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My pet theory is that it's an effect of the Master Emerald since it nullifies Chaos Energy

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Earth rock made people using space rocks dumb as a rock

forest fractal
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Nah I don’t buy into that

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It’s just natural evolution of a race that struggles to survive

coarse ferry
wide portal
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the previous generations be like: “we built super death bots to fight the eldritch creatures that wants to consume our very existence”
the current generations be like: “chao chao chao chao chao :D”

hasty schooner
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Agree to disagree

forest fractal
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Yeah and I disagree so I win

hasty schooner
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whatever bro

forest fractal
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I presume so I can climb into and all mangled and shit?

hasty schooner
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oooooh that flew over your head huh

forest fractal
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Yup

cunning echo
forest fractal
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So uhhh you gonna explain that or I’m just gonna have to put up with the vagueness?

hasty schooner
forest fractal
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HUH WHY?!

hasty schooner
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it's just playing off the whole bro thing you pulled earlier in the convo

forest fractal
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I know it’s an insult

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I can take it

lunar trench
hasty schooner
forest fractal
hasty schooner
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But anyway EVOLUTION

forest fractal
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OOOOOOH

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The stepbro shit

hasty schooner
forest fractal
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Yeah that’s fair i suppose

lunar trench
hasty schooner
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Genes have no will of their own but natually it comes about that the more conductive to survival a gene is the more members of that population take it on, even if this can come with drawbacks in some cases i.e. malaria and sickle cells
So by Soni's logic the Ancients traded their intelligence for physical bodies better adapted to Earth's climates

lunar trench
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If anything tho kocos evolving into chaos makes more sense

hasty schooner
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But intelligence I imagine is very difficult to adapt out

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But also this is a fantasy scifi series

prime hearth
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what if chao are just secretly really really smart

forest fractal
lunar trench
prime hearth
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"chao chao chao! :D" and hes holding his phd in astrophysics

forest fractal
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I mean there’s a Chao Doctor

lunar trench
forest fractal
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Typical French…

lunar trench
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Typical canadian...

prime hearth
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we've only ever really seen chao when they're like, babies

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and like maybe two more adult ones (black market guy and the doctor)

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who says they're not big brained when they're older

hasty schooner
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They may have a degree of intelligence but it likely pales in comparison to the Ancients, with the kind of tech they were using

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Anyway I just think it's mildly horrifying that a previously superintelligent race of interstellar refugees with their own culture, language, and religion were turned into pudding pets

hasty schooner
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And also that the seeming last of their kind was not only still a creature of mostly instinct but was transformed into a dragon monster by the very artifacts they used to ensure their survival

forest fractal
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Sacrificing intelligence to just being able to absorb various traits from animals and buffing up their stats to adapt to various climates better makes sense to me for a fictional evolutionary pipeline

hasty schooner
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Existential horror implications in Sonic go brrrrrr

humble drum
prime hearth
untold kayak
humble drum
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imagine evolving into a blue blob that can suddenly sprout parrot wings

untold kayak
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In the Bumblekast, he talked about how the ancients being from space and be connected to the Chaos emeralds was Sonic Team's part

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but he offered the connection to Chaos to make this element feel more cohesive with the world of Sonic

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so it doesnt feel out of place

forest fractal
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I do wonder what was Sonic Team’s initial look for em

untold kayak
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what you currently know as birds

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is the natural evolution of dinosaurs

humble drum
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why did their translucent liquid bodies become solid

prime hearth
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smaller forms innit

untold kayak
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their semi liquid bodies evolved into a species with adaptability properties

lunar trench
humble drum
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why did the ancients get dumber

lunar trench
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i.e: crows

lunar trench
forest fractal
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Bc why not? It’s fiction

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Let the super intelligent aliens adapt to be silly puntable babies

humble drum
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imagine slowly going from galaxy travellers to glue sniffers

strange estuary
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But why is it fiction when it could be real

forest fractal
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Because while there should some sense of logic at play, it being fictional is just cooler

untold kayak
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I think it is less that it is real

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more so that it feels real

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or palpable enough to buy it

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and it does

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specially with the implication that the Master Emerald played a role in that evolution

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Eggman did say some sort of radiation got into them

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so that also came into play with the ancients adapting into the world

humble drum
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we are an advanced civilization from another world we have come here to-

oooooo crayons

hasty schooner
forest fractal
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Eggman also said Starfall only has three islands so should we really take everything he said in those logs?

coarse ferry
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Probably wasn't able to get the entire data during those logs

untold kayak
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Checked the egg memos

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don't see anything where eggman says there were only three islands

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the closest I could find is that he could find constructions of South Island, Westside Island and Angel Island

forest fractal
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It’s there

untold kayak
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Oh yeah found it, its in log 7

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Probably just a leftover of the original plan for frontiers

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where there were only three islands

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Kronos, Rhea and Ouranos were supposed to be one

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so it is truth but it is outdated

lunar trench
untold kayak
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I mean

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the cannons were strong enough to keep up with the eclipse cannon

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so they were strong, just the enemy was stronger than them

lunar trench
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Okay but like

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Come on bup

untold kayak
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it's a typical 'menace from space stronger than any techy planet' trope

forest fractal
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The End would be a Final Egg Blaster victim

Starfall Super didn’t need to do allat

lunar trench
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Man they could've at least give it to us for a qte

forest fractal
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Bro wants more timed button prompts

lunar trench
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You'd rather have nothing

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Bro wants cutscenes with no gameplay

forest fractal
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That’s what you deserve

lunar trench
#

Mf wants the minecraft story mode sonic game

#

Bro wants the last of us

forest fractal
forest fractal
lunar trench
untold kayak
#

and ultimately gave them Chao

#

So.. w?

lunar trench
#

Triple combo monkey paw

coarse ferry
#

How to live peacefully? Become as babies

#

👍

lunar trench
#

To be ignorant is the worst curse of all

hasty schooner
lunar trench
#

"Blissfully unaware"

untold kayak
#

Though the whole bit of the ancients becoming chao adds more ironic tragedy to Chaos

prime hearth
# lunar trench To be ignorant is the worst curse of all

wrong! Curse of Ra 𓀀 𓀁 𓀂 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊 𓀋 𓀌 𓀍 𓀎 𓀏 𓀐 𓀑 𓀒 𓀓 𓀔 𓀕 𓀖 𓀗 𓀘 𓀙 𓀚 𓀛 𓀜 𓀝 𓀞 𓀟 𓀠 𓀡 𓀢 𓀣 𓀤 𓀥 𓀦 𓀧 𓀨 𓀩 𓀪 𓀫 𓀬 𓀭 𓀮 𓀯 𓀰 𓀱 𓀲 𓀳 𓀴 𓀵 𓀶 𓀷 𓀸 𓀹 𓀺 𓀻 𓀼 𓀽 𓀾 𓀿 𓁀 𓁁 𓁂 𓁃 𓁄 𓁅 𓁆 𓁇 𓁈 𓁉 𓁊 𓁋 𓁌 𓁍 𓁎 𓁏 𓁐 𓁑 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊

runic osprey
humble drum
runic osprey
#

That is awesome but I’ve just never touched rumble

pulsar horizon
loud zinc
#

Je a switch 2 thing lmao

raw osprey
#

oh so its jsut a switch 2 version

rugged edge
#

Or maybe it’s a switch 2 ver of sfde

#

Eh I’m crazy

stiff salmon
#

might just be switch 2 after all

sick bobcat
#

would suck if they do QoL updates for just switch 2

loud zinc
#

We ain’t getting a new game this year after all lmao

strange estuary
#

I don't think we have to

#

But I wouldn't rule it out yet

cunning echo
#

Frontiers 2 this year bros

#

Just trust

wise chasm
#

man, it's actually funny how "2021 2"-core this is

#

I hope they also leak a "Sonic Collection" again that won't come out for at least 1 more year and won't get a phys.release till 2028

raw osprey
#

30th anniversary was so good the make 30th anniversary 2

dusty osprey
silent haven
#

so

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literal coin flip

#

😬

cunning echo
#

Yeah is just switch 2 ver with a link outfit

smoky summit
#

I think timed exclusive for sure

cunning echo
#

Why would it

#

We haven't seen anything yet but I don't think they will add any new kind of content aside from skins

silent haven
#

meh
we don't really have enough of a pattern to go off, there's only really kiwami 3
maybe they've literally just thrown the ps5/series x version on switch 2, maybe they actually bothered to go 'maybe we should do something about the pop in' after 5 years

smoky summit
#

?

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Kiwami 3 was never on the switch

#

I think it's virtually impossible that they don't add anything that adds playtime value

#

Shadow Generations' port was just an upscale, but that came as a launch title for a game that came out half a year earlier

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When sega clearly had no support plans for the switch 2

sick bobcat
#

Definitive Edition implies enhanced port + all DLC
has to be something more

silent haven
#

whatever

#

same thing

wise chasm
#

Yeah, there's no real reason for it to be a "Switch 2 timed exclusive" if it doesn't have anything new

smoky summit
#

Why is the assumption that they aren't adding anything new

#

What basis is this on

#

If they want good sales, they have every reason to add something, and they've had the time

wise chasm
#

Because it's the most realistic scenario for a company that tends to cheap out and do the bare minimum

modest parcel
untold kayak
#

Definitive edition has a new story and content. Trust

wise chasm
#

Also doesn't help that the announcement-to-release pipeline is going to be real quick if June 23rd release is correct

cunning echo
#

they can also just say the next game is called frontiers 2 and push frontiers again by saying that the sequel is coming with the first game available on all platforms

smoky summit
#

Does nintendo still do Switch 2 upgrade Path?

#

And are they still strict about "upscaled games cost $10 to upgrade, games with new content cost $20"?

#

If so, sega has no reason not to add something to justify $20

#

Nothing crazy, but something worth at least 1-2 hours of extra play time

cunning echo
#

no one does that anymore 😭

smoky summit
#

What do they do now

cunning echo
#

they sell the game again

wise chasm
#

3rd party for the most part either makes the upgrade path free (or a small amount) or it's a separate SKU entirely

#

The 20 dollar upgrades were limited to Nintendo games and those had content

#

But also weird assumption that DE is a 20-dollar upgrade when the normal version without any sales is still 60

cunning echo
#

at best they can just do an update 4 being in the same way the update 2 was

#

but aside from that lol

smoky summit
#

Im sure they will also sell it full price if u don't have it already

#

But idk, you guys are saying they might just do that instead

cunning echo
#

we're just saying that it most likely a port

#

and that's it

#

😭

wise chasm
#

Pretty much, yeah

wide portal
#

can we pretend that something leaked I’m so bored

grand cobalt
#

telling how you need sonic leaks to fill the void in your heart rather than filling it with something meaningful

verbal tundra
#

Go to bed fizzy

strange estuary
#

We can always go to 4chan

modest parcel
#

For Frontiers DE?

verbal tundra
#

some of us arebt allowed there

strange estuary
strange estuary
verbal tundra
#

theyre not gonna like us pin.

strange estuary
#

What did y'all do

modest parcel
rugged edge
#

Let’s pretend a Sonic X Star Fox game got leaked

wide portal
modest parcel
#

First Star Fox game to sell past the 1 million mark since the Nintendo 64

#

Star Fox adventures outsold Assault and 64 3D

rugged edge
#

Wow SA1 X SA2 X Star Fox remake

#

Wow

modest parcel
#

This is why we can't have nice things (they're probably going to make another one tbh)

rugged edge
#

So cool

wheat kindle
oblique plank
#

theory
what if Frontiers DE is an update to the base game but a seperate physical release for the switch
somewhat similar to what Hollow Knight did

#

I mean, with a subtitle like "Definitive Edition" it sounds like there should be stuff for non-switch 2 platforms

grand cobalt
#

could be, it’s too unrealistic

#

*not, oops lmao

untold kayak
#

It's a good theory

#

quick question

#

did speed simulator have an event for Sonic Colors Ultimate?

oblique plank
sick bobcat
oblique plank
#

Speed Sim had events for Sonic Prime, Frontiers, Superstars, SXSG and Crossworlds

#

so pretty much every mainline release since it came out

untold kayak
#

Did it have for Sonic Origins?

#

be either OG or Plus?

oblique plank
#

yeah

#

I think

untold kayak
#

Yeah it did, I checked

#

Interesting

#

very interesting

stiff salmon
#

i smell something imminent

modest parcel
#

I wouldn't say anything is imminent due to this necessarily; they've been working on it since December, and all of the additions have been surprises to them. If it were properly timed, tying into Frontiers DE promotion, they'd probably be less surprised by all these changes and approvals.

#

That said, I do think the new "maybe if" rendition is a solid indication that Frontiers DE will have changes in some way, so I do expect those to carry over to an update or something unless they want to be insane with it

untold kayak
#

they did say it was not just that though

#

it was like 10 songs weren't they?

modest parcel
#

10 songs that they're hoping to add later on yeah

#

Not necessarily all of them are new though

untold kayak
#

Fair, yeah

#

but still, very interesting that SEGA did a remix for maybe if

lunar trench
#

So then

oblique plank
#

what if they got Ian to do the optional dialogue this time

lunar trench
#

Do we agree that DE is the release of 2026 or are we expecting something else

untold kayak
#

2026 release

oblique plank
#

there's bound to be something else

lunar trench
#

Hm

#

😭

oblique plank
#

I think Nate said something

lunar trench
#

Not expecting frontiers 2 this year #tbh

oblique plank
#

Frontiers DE this year with some changes followed by the announcement of what the next mainline is

lunar trench
#

My theory was a new classic game this year

#

But idk anymore

#

Cuz i have a theory with maybe an adventure collection but it's very tinfoil moment

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Cuz like

oblique plank
#

this is what I believe their lineup is gonna be
Sonic Rewind finale
Sonic Frontiers DE
Next 3D game announcement
35th anniversary collabs (Godzilla and Fortnite)
Sonic X DC Metal Leigon
Mainline title reveal

lunar trench
#

F4F has this to be revealed in june, and methinks it looks like the ss/ssh transfo sequence... this on top of the new sa2 statue we're getting rn... idk man i'm just saying that's a lot of sa2

oblique plank
#

SA2 pandering with F4F isn't new anyway

lunar trench
#

Ehhhh idk

#

The only sa2 pandering from f4f is the old shadow one... and even then it was only the base

dawn pumice
#

I think this is for 35th

grand cobalt
lunar trench
dawn pumice
#

No true

#

Rn I’m 100% in agreement there’s a 2026 game

cunning echo
#

frontir 2

dawn pumice
#

But I’m split if it’s a spin-off or a classic game

#

I think frontiers 2 is spring 2027

#

For the 4th movie

coarse ferry
#

I am on the same boat too.

dawn pumice
#

I don’t think frontiers de is the game of 2026

#

Still in belief it’s just a graphics update

grand cobalt
coarse ferry
#

I feel like if they are going to do ever do SA1/SA2 remake it only depends if they are this confident doing a remake

dawn pumice
#

This is crazy coming from me

#

But I see them doing a heroes remake before the adventure titles

#

Feel like that’s more of a safer bet

grand cobalt
#

how is that crazy 😭

#

it 100% is a safer bet

coarse ferry
#

Honestly Heroes is the most likely Sonic remake due to three reason

  1. No longer able to get the engine
  2. One of the more "accessible" sonic games to get into
  3. Marketing of the current series (Sonic 4 movie with metal and amy)
dawn pumice
#

^^^

grand cobalt
#

well i was gonna say that heroes in general isn’t as well liked by people as sa1/2 so if they fuck up or change stuff theres less heat on their back

#

but that too

dawn pumice
#

That was another reason

#

If they fucked up both of those remakes, hell would break loose 😭

coarse ferry
#

But I expect that we get more focused with Metal instead

#

I know Amy fans are expecting what they got, but Metal got barebone compared to her recently

#

And even if Heroes remake does exist, it'll be strictly far more focused over metal

grand cobalt
#

man Amy in a heroes remake might be the last straw for people 😭

#

saying that as if crossworlds wasn’t kind of that already

coarse ferry
#

Yeah I am muting their asses off lmao

#

I hate Amy discussion way too much 💀

lunar trench
modest parcel
#

A good mentality

coarse ferry
#

I have to be real, EVEN if the remake is good people are going to bitch

modest parcel
dawn pumice
#

I think they need to remake something like heroes first before they do that

#

If heroes does insanely well then ya u can do those remakes

lunar trench
#

Ew

#

Heroes 🥀

oblique plank
#

I wonder

dawn pumice
#

I would gladly take a heroes remake

modest parcel
#

Alright enough agenda posting

oblique plank
#

would a heroes remake get rid of the iconic "because, we're sonic heroes"

modest parcel
#

Put ur money down H3y

grand cobalt
#

Heroes is the game I think people will be the most okay with if you changed literally everything about it funnily enough

dawn pumice
#

There a bet????

modest parcel
#

SA2 for 35th?!?!

coarse ferry
#

Only thing I am worry about is this

#

The visuals

dawn pumice
modest parcel
#

If you can't stake your claim then your agenda is hollow

grand cobalt
#

get ready for shadow gens graphics talk but on a bigger scale then

oblique plank
#

Heroes remake = seaside hill remix = seaside denied remix

modest parcel
grand cobalt
#

get ready for piss yellow rail canyon

dawn pumice
#

No I don’t think we getting SA2 stuff 35th wise vectorRunners

grand cobalt
#

and desaturated seaside hill

grand cobalt
#

there’s no way they’re not reusing gens and shad gens assets lets be serious

cunning echo
silent haven
oblique plank
#

honestly the only thing they need to fix about Shadow Gens' graphics is the lighting

#

everything else is, imo, on par with Sonic Unleashed

coarse ferry
#

I am more of worried over how they'll handle it is the thing

grand cobalt
coarse ferry
#

Because that's always been a dealbreaker when it comes to any remakes

modest parcel
#

#noticing

lunar trench
#

WHAT BET

grand cobalt
#

probably because it’s a really boring one

coarse ferry
#

But I won't be surprised if we get more story context about Neo at least the prologue

#

Like at least over how metal found out about shadow and chaos 0 while being out of commission

modest parcel
lunar trench
#

Yah

sick bobcat
#

I'll consider SA1/SA2 remakes, if they don't delist the original versions

modest parcel
#

You gotta put your honor on the line

#

SA2 pfp for a week if it doesn't happen

grand cobalt
#

that’s a lame ass penalty wtf

sick bobcat
#

cause if they mess up the remakes, you can always go back to play the originals

modest parcel
coarse ferry
#

The delisting will always be stupid af

silent haven
#

i've lost all hope...

modest parcel
silent haven
#

without sonic central i have nothing.....

modest parcel
#

Come on H3ylow what's wrong

#

It's just a lame ass penalty

oblique plank
#

they're def gonna go the Sonic Gens route of delisting it but making it still available in bundles

lunar trench
#

What if i'm right tho

#

What about you

modest parcel
#

Well

#

I'll have to uuuuh

#

What should my penalty be h3ylow

grand cobalt
#

I mean if it’s a remake, I don’t see why they’d feel the need to delist it

modest parcel
#

One week long pfp

lunar trench
#

"SA2 is dogshit" as a name in tc for a week

grand cobalt
#

It’s not like two almost exact versions being up on the same platform but one is significantly cheaper

#

(gens)

#

(origins)

silent haven
lunar trench
#

Tho, if it's like an sa1/sa2 compil it still count as me being right

grand cobalt
#

is h3ylow betting on sa2 in general

grand cobalt
#

like if it’s a re release would it- alr

dawn pumice
oblique plank
dawn pumice
#

I do think we will get a possible collection

modest parcel
#

But is it SA2 and SA1 specific

grand cobalt
#

If it’s a collection oh yeah kiss those steam versions goodbye

dawn pumice
#

I just remebered SA and SA2 were taken off ps+ awhile ago

silent haven
#

this WILL be the year we get the unleashed port and advance collection and dream team port and sa1/sa2 ports

grand cobalt
#

sorry bettersadx it was fun while it lasted

#

uhhh sa2 doesn’t have any notable mods so idrc

silent haven
#

render fix 😠

oblique plank
grand cobalt
#

I guess !

torn trench
grand cobalt
#

you can’t cancel me sheriff

sick bobcat
#

if we don't get the announcement trailer for Frontiers DE in the next two weeks, we will get it next month

dawn pumice
#

I mean…

#

Ya?

wheat kindle
#

I think we are getting Frontiers DE and a spinoff this year, some other small shit

#

If it's not a spinoff

#

Anyway I had forgotten that an update on other platforms is nearly confirmed for Frontiers, because we saw the game was being updated on February - March via Steamdb

#

Same thing that happened to Origins before Plus

#

If true, it would debunk the "it's just prettier graphics on Switch 2" theory

fossil echo
#

Trust the plan

silent haven
#

sonic blitz twitter account there’s a bum in your mentions

autumn yacht
#

some fans be everywhere i swear

wide portal
#

I’m saying like

pulsar horizon
dawn pumice
#

Sonic is prob coming soon

#

It’s matching up with the timeframe

pulsar horizon
#

Ben is this Friday so hopefully the update after that will tell us the next collab

ember junco
#

Yeah Adira said Ben 10 would be Summer so I could defo see Sonic being soon if they got the timings off

pulsar horizon
#

I’m assuming Minecraft is just a axe or something so it’s not a big collab

#

It seems like the bigger collabs get more attention/hype like Regular Show, Ben 10, Ninjago, etc

coarse ferry
untold kayak
coarse ferry
#

Oh easily

#

Sad for no Kevin yet 😔

untold kayak
#

sad

pulsar horizon
#

He’s busy fixing his car

untold kayak
#

only real funny thing is Heatblast model wise

coarse ferry
untold kayak
#

his hands are really small here

coarse ferry
#

oh yeah they shrunked his hands lmao

pulsar horizon
#

"smartest being in three galaxies, arguably five galaxies… let me tag along in this battle royale”
-Azmuth probably

coarse ferry
#

He would do that lmao

untold kayak
#

Azmuth be vibing while the whole plot of the Zero shard happens

#

😭

pulsar horizon
#

He would’ve fix everything by now tbh

loud zinc
#

Azmuth back bling is hilarious

green tiger
#

Have they brought it forward or is it implying that there's gonna be a Sonic Central in May?

naive geyser
#

We still haven’t heard anything about what’s being planned for Blitz, so it’s still all up in the air atm

untold kayak
still epoch
#

This is most likely nothing

pulsar horizon
#

FORCES 2 BABYYYYY

pulsar horizon
#

What would they add

#

Better levels? SMH

untold kayak
#

it's an entire new register

#

according to Sonic Paradise

#

so

#

no idea

modest parcel
#

Sonic Movie Forces

pulsar horizon
#

So it’s Sonic Forces 2 babyyyyy

sick bobcat
#

Sonic Forces remaster

cunning echo
#

Sonic Frontiers Definitive Edition + Sonic forces

#

that's the bonus

grand cobalt
#

rereleasing any games but the ones stuck on older platforms

cunning echo
#

they gonna sell it as play it both to understand the story of the next game

dawn pumice
#

Why would they do an entirely new registration???

pulsar horizon
#

Forces 2 babyyyyy

grand cobalt
#

wait a minute

#

infinite frontiers 2 theory is BACK ON

sick bobcat
#

playable Infinite side story voiced by Alejandro Saab

pulsar horizon
#

This can be real finally

dawn pumice
#

Bro imagine we’ve been all wrong and the next mainline is actually forces 2

untold kayak
#

That would be an insane twist

sick bobcat
#

I mean
a Forces sequel with improved controls + open zone formula sounds fire

pulsar horizon
#

I need to see the fandoms reaction

stiff salmon
#

rewrite your own error

dawn pumice
#

Bro

#

Forces 2 that’s an open world

pulsar horizon
#

I wouldn’t mind an open zone Forces

#

They seem to be pushing IDW characters and the podcast was a major thing and they only talked about the events of Forces

sick bobcat
#

Playable Whisper instead of Gadget 🤔

pulsar horizon
#

It would make even more sense with T&W also getting VAs recently

lavish iron
still epoch
#

Not this gif AGAIN

wheat kindle
#

They are 100% gonna add Tangle and Whisper, and some hint at how Infinite survives to connect it to Chaotix Casefiles

#

Although Tangle wasn't a hero during Forces

#

Whisper would be easy to add storywise, she worked alone in that period

pulsar horizon
#

I can’t see them doing a Forces DE with Tangle and Whisper being added since they were doing their own thing during Forces

wheat kindle
#

Yes

#

Whisper was a myth, according to Silver

pulsar horizon
#

You’d also have to introduce Jewel which would tie into the festival ig

hybrid hill
#

Can any of yall check if they gave a date in that link?

#

Can’t seem to open it for some reason

pulsar horizon
#

I got you

lavish iron
#

If they call the next mainline game “Sonic Forces 2” bro. And oh I might evolve

#

Dang it

pulsar horizon
#

Nvm it crashed on me

hybrid hill
#

yea the link is broken for me as well

pulsar horizon
#

Ok through twitter it opens

deep spire
#

Finally
Sonic Forces 2
-# Sonic Generations 3
The next game in the Mario Advance series

pulsar horizon
#

I can’t translate it tho

hybrid hill
pulsar horizon
#

@hybrid hill

deep spire
#

You know another thing that they've been doing lately is like

#

using Gadget as a character?

pulsar horizon
#

Bro imagine it’s just for Speed Battle 💀

deep spire
#

That'd be hilarious

hybrid hill
dawn pumice
#

Oh ya it could be forces mobile

untold kayak
#

Did Dream Team got something like this?

still epoch
#

A dream team trademark would have been more exciting for obvious reasons

pulsar horizon
#

It was speed battle wasn’t it

wise chasm
lavish iron
#

Thank god

strange estuary
#

Sonic Forces 2 will be happening in a few decades anyway

wide portal
modest parcel
untold kayak
modest parcel
#

Apparently you can't download it from the store in that region even if there is a token listed for it currently

modest parcel
#

📑 Translated from Japanese

Is there a chance that the region lock on "Sonic Forces: Speed Battle" might get lifted?

Original text
ワンチャン、「ソニックフォース:スピードバトル」のおま国なくなる可能性ある?

Quoting Sonic Paradise (@sonicparadise)

SEGA has registered the trademark "Sonic Forces" in Japan. This is a completely new registration published today, although the reason for it is unknown.
︀︀
︀︀chizai-watch.com/t/2026043422?a=SEGA+CORPORATION

**🔁 1 ❤️ 1 👁️ 74 **

untold kayak
#

Hm but

#

why would you need an entire separate register for it?

#

wouldn't you just do a tangencial one with the original one?

#

be either the og game or speed battle?

pulsar horizon
#

It’s not called Speed Battle apparently

smoky summit
#

Yawn

#

Waste of breathe

pulsar horizon
#

According to the Play Store it’s called “Sonic Forces: PvP Battle Race”

smoky summit
#

I hope something worth talking about happens soon

untold kayak
#

Name kinda sucks but thats besides the point

pulsar horizon
#

But yeah little weird that the trademarked Forces specifically

modest parcel
#

Hm

pulsar horizon
#

Status is dead

modest parcel
pulsar horizon
#

That would explain it ig

modest parcel
#

Same classifications and everything

pulsar horizon
#

For me it says dead

untold kayak
pulsar horizon
modest parcel
#

Well

untold kayak
#

I am not the most acquanticed with general copyright stuff

modest parcel
#

Not exact same

#

But at least SEGA filed it this time

#

So I'm not getting bamboozled

pulsar horizon
#

So it’s a different project? I’m confused

modest parcel
#

It's a trademark for generally the same goods and services as the original

#

Just under different classifications

#

Old classifications^

untold kayak
modest parcel
untold kayak
#

Interesting

modest parcel
#

New classifications^

pulsar horizon
#

So they renewed it basically right?

modest parcel
#

Comparing it with other cases of renewed trademarks, I'd say so

verbal tundra
pulsar horizon
#

Rell I saw your tweet shush

still epoch
#

Dex

#

Is there any new star Fox trademarks

untold kayak
verbal tundra
hybrid hill
#

I mean don’t we all 😭😭

green tiger
forest fractal
#

Yeah… it’s gone now…

green tiger
#

Inshallah we get a Sonic Superstars updated version

#

The level design is certified kino but it lacks polish and resources being diverted to the meh multiplayer drags it down

#

If not I'm tempted to make a mod for it given it's just Unity

forest fractal
#

Superstars ain’t big enough to warrant an update esp now

green tiger
#

More random updates have happened for older games

hybrid hill
green tiger
hybrid hill
#

dw about it theres a member here who said the same thing LOL

green tiger
modest parcel
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The user that goes by freeze here is a big superstars fan

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shh

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Apparently modding it is pretty difficult

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ur leaking trade secrets

green tiger
green tiger
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So the mod that is out is not that finished

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I saw someone managed to make a Sonic Rush mod that changes how Sonic controls a lot with new graphics

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🐺

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Idk how far it went though

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i think they just stopped working on it 😭

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dw I gotchu

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Lowkey we need that complete boss mod though

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💀

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Just because it is tangential to the fortnite leaks

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well it's fortnite so it's understandable

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this isn't a sonic fan thing its a "you have spent too much time on the computer go the fuck outside NOW‼️" thing

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unfortunately the venn diagram of the two groups looks like this

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the difference is the sonic fans are more feral somehow

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somehow? 😭

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with sonic there’s almost a constant revolving door of new stuff making its way out, even during the lull periods there were at least comics and bits

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for ol benny tenny they made three connected shows, stopped and most people into it moved on with their lives while carrying the love for it in their hearts

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And fond rememberence of a brighter hue of green

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Never doubt green fans