#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation
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yeah
giggex hightlighted dark beginnings
and the IGN live thing is making me feel something's very off
animated series led by flynn + stanley that immediately kicks off frontwos's plot

award winning animation related to an extremely popular franchise
i don’t know if we should be looking too deep into this 😭
they also have TMNT which got nominated too
so that's why the alarm bells are kinda going off rn 😭
They also worked on a feature film
not sure if it is popular admittedly
but they do have something of big leagues on their back
even if they are working on something sonic (which isn’t exactly unlikely i’ll admit)
assuming the job listing is related, that work period feels way too short for it to be anything except another web animation 
It’s just gonna be an animation for the next game
But
I do believe it’ll be like a 3-4 15 min episode series
Animation for this year...sonic frontiers 2 is this year...
I’m also gonna say it’s gonna be the nuttiest animation they’ve done
knuckles prologue but shadow is there now
Episode sage
Frontiers DE gets a new animation
there's no way they'll make animation that long
I think there is a good chance they will
Ever since SXSG they have been consistently slowly increasing their budget and with the next game being a far bigger scaled, no doubt they'll push it much harder than both SXSG and Frontiers
They’re gonna do an animation for the Episode Metal new side story lock in
you think they'll remake the prologue?
I see no reason
Even if they do why will they change anything over Prologue if people highly praised it?
Why would they do that
Even so what they'll even add?
Like the glimpse of Angel Island with Knuckles nowhere to be seen?
No offense, it feels like you're just typing stuff
IT'S TIME TO FACE YOUR FEARS
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Imagine all they add is a proper Ares flashback
Yeah probably some new animation for the games since Dark Beginnings was so popular and well made, giving GIGGEX more projects is a cool thing, with our main writers
If Roger is involved and the announcement is tied to the IGN live, it's game related, like an animation for the games as usual
It must be more substancial than the last animation, the Crossworlds animation was barely hyped iirc, compared to Dark Beginnings

moving her mask out of the way to play forehead noughts and crosses
Bald
the 'we need people to play our game now' trio 
stand your ground tomato boy
a
|| >Tikal is a pass ||
throwing up
Still no sign of MHA
oh ok fuck fumble
by this point i earnestly believe they saw the player count and dipped (like the player count ha ha)
Yea because Care Bears and Smurfs will definitely bring in players obv
yeah exactly
aint no way they were desperate enough to pull out the back to back smurfs/care bears combo and not MHA if they could've
dw bro we get it
unless they're saving mha for when only less than two digits are playing...
That or they have another anime collab in the works
Mephiles, Chaos, Tikal and Infinite all before Omega I am gonna ensure this Sonic Rumble Party™ comes to an end
oh boy the last time Tikal suddenly showed up as a surprise character in a mobile game developed partially by SOJ it didn’t end well
what the fuck are you wearing my guy
I like the hoodie
uh don’t show this image to sonic twitter it’ll auto-generate 15 long rants about electricity and sonic
Orca time
hoodie could be cool but I think it should be instead of the scouter/gauntlets instead of with em
It was one of the skin design contest nominees
otherwise it just turns into
Seems like they are making them all stickers
Big clock hat should have beaten catdow
Kitsunami L
Now if eggman makes these toys how does he know mephiles
mephiles and infinite believers keep winning lol
Some bullshit with the time eater i dunno
Maybe roblox canon
same way anyone under the age of like 20 knows mephiles - tilted towers fandub
Anyways finally theyre doing the fan contest skin
Its neat we get both
And not just cat shadow
So has eggman watched himself pissing on the moon
Peacock sonic looks cool
Or wait, all those stickers were fan contest outfits weren't they
Well the losers are just stickers
You think they'll be eventually be made into skins diwn the line or they'll only be stickers?

Ah shame
everybody in the sonic universe just randomly remembers 06 at very specific intervals, so in one of those intervals Eggman jointed down his memory of Mephiles’ desi—I just realized I don’t think either of them actually interacted face to face
06 you ruined my fucking joke I hate you
Eggman does say he has been trying to capture Mephiles in 06
Though
if we run into specifics
in Gens, Eggman brought Crisis city for whatever reason
so probably he found out about Mephiles through that
If Eggman knows about King Arthur Sonic, does that mean all Knights of the Round Table feature Sonic now
The book did change its title to Sonic and the Black Knight
so most likely lmao
don’t worry sir she’ll become purchasable with rsr in half a year (the game will be dead by then)
If only
I didn't expect Mephiles
Chaos and Tikal 🗿
I could've seen those coming from a mile away
i just think it's funny how with each addition, omega sounds less and less expected
one day a chibi toy metal overlord will happen before omega
does he know
Omega fans can't catch a break 😔
Omega, forever a third wheel and forgotten 😔
you talking about neo metal or are they actually
no..
can i at least have a toy chaos gamma
Altho it feels even worse since he is the most recurring e series robot and still gets treated like this
Absolute pain
Who were you expecting
he got to appear in Dark Beginnings and be cool for a few moments
but I need more than that
saaaaaaame
YEAAAAAAH
I can’t lie
I kinda wrote off Mephiles getting into the game because they wanted this to be canon
But let’s fucking go???????
We cannot stop winning
Ngl
Kinda weird they’re not using Rubyless Infinite
Like wouldn’t it make more sense to push that design?
i mean it's same gimmick as speed battle
anyone can get 'in' because they're all just toys in game canon
No
They've used that design since the Chaotix Files
Oh wait, I misread
Yeah but like
Since it’s canon unlike Speed Battle how’d Eggman remember Mephiles
I don't think this is really canon, at least not the way you think it is
Shhhh dont worry about it
Though for real
I feel like this can be a hand wavey “the eggmen were stuck in white space long enough to learn about him”
Nah Ik it ain’t gonna have like crazy lore drops I just find it a bit odd with the inconsistency
Ultimately it ain’t a huge deal
funny answer: blame time eater bc crisis city is in gens
less funny answer: he saw him on a monitor at some point in 06 or something idk
eggman used the healing power of smurf magic (he'll be dying very soon)
I mean I could maybe see the Gens thing being the case
Oh yeah wait a minute
Yeah iirc didn’t Time Eater specifically pull moments from Shadow and Sonic’s timelines
time eater will be playable before omega
So maybe Eggman could like peer into Shadow’s stuff
Eggman probably went like "who?" And just treated as another pawn for an excuse to defeat Sonic lmao
I don't think they'd be able to know who Mephiles is without getting in his time chamber
Literally no one remembers him
shadow told him about this frosty lookalike he fought in Shadow Gens once and Eggman was like "ooooookay then"
Wait holdon
What if Eggman treats his Mephiles figure as a sort of fanmade super Sonic
Lemme cook
internally he called it "Shadow action figure - frosty edition"
Classic Eggman sees Mephiles and Iblis and then later down the line remembers them and that’s why Eggman went to Soliana in the first place
i swear that if those icon emotes are just shoutouts and nothing more im going to be very sad.
because i VERY MUCH wanted that Kitsune skin
only for Mr. Glaze himself to win it all anyways
Ngl I’m kinda surprised they even did anything for the runner ups
Like I thought it was just the winner gets the skin in the game
Game key for 2 dreamcast games I can't
Literally
“Dumbass” like bro we know it’s fake 😭✌️
That split for the boxart is also just terrible
It'd be a solid line and have some stupid title like the SONIC ADVENTURE 2-PACK
You can tell it’s AI because of the TikTok stuff at the top
It’s out of order
It's not AI
Ohhh
how do we tell them
Ok I must’ve been tripping
*them
shit my bad
Sonic Adventure 1+2 Deluxe Edition
Heh get the reference
Sonic
Frontiers
Deluxe
Edition
featuring new funky mode
Featuring a separate campaign with chaos (no not the blue blob chaos)
Anyways what happen to SFDE
Did it get debunked or smth
its 100% legit considering its from a rating board
we just don't know what it actually is
I mean…….it might be a switch 2 port..
Think abt it
Why would frontiers suddenly get a new game 4 smth years later
I mean yea final horizons but that was planned dlc
Unless there doing a SFDE to plan for SF2
filler release to make up for the lack of frontiers 2 most likely
Just be a free update for PC please
partially cos they know we wouldn't last for a year without a game without going feral, but mostly cos investors
SEGA: Fuck you and the PC (slaps a 80$ game on to your face)
investors likey sonic game releases
Should we do a always bet on SFDE bingo board to replace SF2 for now
I feel like all I want for SFDE is
• Shadow DLC that is connected with Shadow Gens
• Tails, Knuckles and Amy playable in other worlds after you beat the story
• Replace the ending with the horizons ending
Idk what else
Would they really replace the original ending?
god I fuckin hope not lol
I don't think they will do it
specially because final horizon was thought as an alternate ending
Yeah I might’ve gotten carried away
I see the Shadow dlc happening ngl
SHADOW EXCLUSIVE Cyberspace levels YEAAAAA
No.
I'm hoping for a Metal Sonic side story for Frontiers DE
give me that Sonic 4 synergy
metal + orbot/cubot side story to tie into the movie AND build off the like 3 times they've interacted with each other
It's kinda funny I think Frontiers is one of the few games where Eggman just doesn't have Orbot and Cubot with him, I forget if they explained that or not
Orbot and Cubot being there helps, cause Metal doesn't talk
so they do the talking for him
They were left behind at Eggman's base
as shown in the prequel comic convergence
Oh right!
Damn shame
If adventure 2 even touches adventure 1 I will kill you
They’ll probably find a way to go like “how I make this about shadow” lore in sa1 story
🙂 👍
How would you even do that?
Well...
Hmm
I’m just joking, but legit. Keep sa2 related out of sa1 and use past sonic games before sa1 instead
Let me ask you all a knuckles related question. How long ago are those flashbacks in sa1
I think they are like 1000 years ago which honestly they should expand that more
Unless those echidina flashback are 2000 years ago. I dont really think you could. Sa2 is weirdly seperate from a lot of the stuff in the games before it. Despite involving multiple elements.
Oh no not what I mean. More like small references and such
With like the Badniks in general
Ah ok ok
Ye 🫡
But as for sa1 itself. There’s a lot they could easily add more that were left out
Like with the dragon in sky chase, chaos 3,5, and such
time travel
Flash back emerl fight in 3d
Oh that’ll be raw af
Thats the most "sa2"/gerald related shit i could see happening. Beyond again the echidina stuff takes place at the exact time as blackdoom being on earth
Or as @sick bobcat suggests litteral time travel. Which might not be off the table because of the films. In the sense of shadow may fight chaos at some point in a movie?
But i feel like what might be better to forshadow with all the echidina stuff if they wanted to is again emerl or the frontiers stuff
That’s something I hope they do because the echidna lore is not used much as of yet in the game series
Closest we have after sa1 is chronicles and that ship has sailed
The ship exploded and died
That or the Third Great Civilization, we know nothing about them
Either one works really
My dream topics to cover in future Sonic games:
- The Ancients' God
- More Ancients
- Third Great Civilization
We don’t really know about the Fourth outside that Emerl was created by em so I wouldn’t mind an expansion of them either
But idk Casefiles kinda made me skeptical if the ancient history will amount to anything since the Lenses were kinda just the macguffin of that show and the Gaians made em but nothing else to really contextualize em in that culture
I just really hate how they mention the Gaians and did nothing with that connection. It didn’t add anything
you have to be the strongest ancients truther I know
Final Horizon lobotomized me
But if they are going to do something liek that I hope Knuckles is more involved because one of the main thing I miss is his treasure hunting day
Zero Gravity was the only time outside of emerald shard hunting that shows that and I wanted them to do more of that over his char
You need to be relobotimized in that case
wait but what does a second lobotomy accomplish exactly
If we combine the collective IQ in this server, it would still be in the negative
I mean, I don't mind. It isn't like the Gaians themselves were more than a mcguffin in Unleashed so this is just a smaller version of that type of narrative element
I got more out of Unleashed’s brief details than I ever did on Casefiles plus back then, there was never that much of a push for lore in Sonic anyway but I can infer a lot of details from that game
Plus I like some Unleashed rep. Between this and Metstli's culture somehow existing in Spagonia complex, its neat
Was Metstli involved with Spagonia? I don’t recall any sort of connection there
They went to the laboratory of spagonia to find Tails and he told them the location of the ruins
Listen man they gave me a mysterious deadbeat god and a race that plays jenga competitively that's all that's needed to sell me
Nerrrrrrd
Me to the alien symbol floating in the sky: you come here often hehehe
Honestly I am fine with how Gaia lore is handled as it is. Like babylon, I feel like it's already established enough as it is
Bro is getting rizzed up by a fuck ass symbol well at least that’s better than a 30 year old acting like a shy anime teen
what is the context for the latter
Also helps that there is essentially both Light Gaia and Dark Gaia. No need to expand any further than that
Sykkuno
I still think the ancients are kind of a failure as a ancient species, but that's entirely's sonic team fault tbh
Visuals, story, lore, all of it is so so dissapointing
that fuck ass symbol has a lot of curves and edges i can appreciate
you wouldn't understand
Please I can handle those curves like a pro
Ancient symbol nsfw?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

nope it's too late you're an anime protagonist now
Oh stop yelling and read Rent a Girlfriend or whatever
That’s disgusting, I wouldn’t dare read such trash out of my own volition
Besides I’m not an anime protagonist, people love em
Well yeah what people don’t love an anime protagonist?
Idk I wouldn’t say that much
Their lore being explained through PNGs does suck ass though 
Frontiers had dogshit presentation wbk
The PNGs are stupid af lmao, but yeah I do like how the ancients are handled writing wise
They really did the lazy way of introducing an ancient race where they’re from a different planet and allat. I can respect Ian’s pitch to make em related to Chaos at least.
what the fuck is a wbk 😭
ITS AN OLD SLANG
💀
I have not seen a SINGLE person in my 20 years of life use it
so therefore
it doesn’t exist !
Might have to start saying lowkenuinely atp
Bro lacks object permanence
real talk tho making them related to Chaos and the chao saved them because otherwise I think most people wouldn’t gaf
Yeah
I kinda just wish Sage looked a bit like an Ancient tbh tho
It seems like they finalized her design before the pivot
Agree
Them being deevolved raises a lot of interesting questions
Something they could touch on if they wanted to
sigh
I'm fine with it since outside of hacking their tech she doesn't really have much of a connection to them
She's meant to be Eggman's kid
Though maybe the white/blue is supposed to tie into them a little? idk
was there anything suggesting the ancients were human like in the concepts or something?
It’s not really deevolved tbh. Their bodies as is struggled to adapt in Earth so over generations their bodies had to adapt. Just that Darwin type shit
because I’m not sure about the correlation there
It works well because Chaos 0's origin barely exist so it's easy enough for them to use the Ancients
deevolution doesn't really exist irl so i mean in terms of them losing a lot of their intelligence/power/sentience
My pet theory is that it's an effect of the Master Emerald since it nullifies Chaos Energy
Earth rock made people using space rocks dumb as a rock
Nah I don’t buy into that
It’s just natural evolution of a race that struggles to survive
I would agreed but that's just diminishing Chaos 0
the previous generations be like: “we built super death bots to fight the eldritch creatures that wants to consume our very existence”
the current generations be like: “chao chao chao chao chao :D”
Agree to disagree
Yeah and I disagree so I win
whatever bro
I presume so I can climb into and all mangled and shit?
oooooh that flew over your head huh
Yup

So uhhh you gonna explain that or I’m just gonna have to put up with the vagueness?
honestly no i'm not going to explain it because now i feel awkward
HUH WHY?!
it's just playing off the whole bro thing you pulled earlier in the convo
As lovo said, that's just not how it works 😭 this is like if us humans were to evolve into squirrels or smthng
no that's not what i meant actually, i do believe what Soni is suggesting is possible in the right conditions
That’s not even a good comparison I’m beating you up
anime siblings and a washing machine look it up
But anyway EVOLUTION
bingo
Yeah that’s fair i suppose
It is possible but with a species that is that intelligent it just doesn't really make sense as they'd rather adapt the environment to fit their needs rather than them fitting to the environment
Genes have no will of their own but natually it comes about that the more conductive to survival a gene is the more members of that population take it on, even if this can come with drawbacks in some cases i.e. malaria and sickle cells
So by Soni's logic the Ancients traded their intelligence for physical bodies better adapted to Earth's climates
If anything tho kocos evolving into chaos makes more sense
I agree with this I'm just saying it's technically not impossible
But intelligence I imagine is very difficult to adapt out
But also this is a fantasy scifi series
what if chao are just secretly really really smart
Omg bruh… this is some corny ass strawman bs SonicTwt be pulling
Idk give the ancients chat gpt and it's gonna devolve'em real fast
"chao chao chao! :D" and hes holding his phd in astrophysics
I mean there’s a Chao Doctor
Whatever you say man
Typical French…
Typical canadian...
we've only ever really seen chao when they're like, babies
and like maybe two more adult ones (black market guy and the doctor)
who says they're not big brained when they're older
They may have a degree of intelligence but it likely pales in comparison to the Ancients, with the kind of tech they were using
Anyway I just think it's mildly horrifying that a previously superintelligent race of interstellar refugees with their own culture, language, and religion were turned into pudding pets
Tikal
And also that the seeming last of their kind was not only still a creature of mostly instinct but was transformed into a dragon monster by the very artifacts they used to ensure their survival
Sacrificing intelligence to just being able to absorb various traits from animals and buffing up their stats to adapt to various climates better makes sense to me for a fictional evolutionary pipeline
Existential horror implications in Sonic go brrrrrr
that can absorb features of other species
I mean I'd take being a pudding pet over [gestures at everything]
Yeah, Ian did say it would be the connection feel less jarring
imagine evolving into a blue blob that can suddenly sprout parrot wings
In the Bumblekast, he talked about how the ancients being from space and be connected to the Chaos emeralds was Sonic Team's part
but he offered the connection to Chaos to make this element feel more cohesive with the world of Sonic
so it doesnt feel out of place
TBF
in real life
I do wonder what was Sonic Team’s initial look for em
why did their translucent liquid bodies become solid
mass density prolly
smaller forms innit
natural evolution
the terrain and conditions changed to adapt to the enviroment and have properties that allowed their survival
their semi liquid bodies evolved into a species with adaptability properties
Okay but dinos weren't as intelligent as the ancients, they weren't capable of adapting the environment to fit their needs + you have to remember that the birds aren't dumber than dinos thx to neurone density
why did the ancients get dumber
i.e: crows
Bcs plot
Bc why not? It’s fiction
Let the super intelligent aliens adapt to be silly puntable babies
imagine slowly going from galaxy travellers to glue sniffers
But why is it fiction when it could be real
Because while there should some sense of logic at play, it being fictional is just cooler
I think it is less that it is real
more so that it feels real
or palpable enough to buy it
and it does
specially with the implication that the Master Emerald played a role in that evolution
Eggman did say some sort of radiation got into them
so that also came into play with the ancients adapting into the world
we are an advanced civilization from another world we have come here to-
oooooo crayons
See??? It makes sense
The Master Emerald stops Chaos Energy, it would be like reverse radiation for the Ancients
Eggman also said Starfall only has three islands so should we really take everything he said in those logs?
Probably wasn't able to get the entire data during those logs
Checked the egg memos
don't see anything where eggman says there were only three islands
the closest I could find is that he could find constructions of South Island, Westside Island and Angel Island
It’s there
Oh yeah found it, its in log 7
Probably just a leftover of the original plan for frontiers
where there were only three islands
Kronos, Rhea and Ouranos were supposed to be one
so it is truth but it is outdated
Actually ykw, coming from a species that tried to defend earth from a intergalactic world destructor with this? I'm not too surprised
I mean
the cannons were strong enough to keep up with the eclipse cannon
so they were strong, just the enemy was stronger than them
it's a typical 'menace from space stronger than any techy planet' trope
The End would be a Final Egg Blaster victim
Starfall Super didn’t need to do allat
Man they could've at least give it to us for a qte
Bro wants more timed button prompts
That’s what you deserve
They already have that to use with the mfing Easy mode
Last of Us without the Zionism so basically not Last of Us
The emeralds responds to the hearts desires, so it probably detected the ancients' wish to live peacefully
and ultimately gave them Chao
So.. w?
Triple combo monkey paw
To be ignorant is the worst curse of all
I mean what I suggested is the complete opposite
"Blissfully unaware"
Oh fair enough
Though the whole bit of the ancients becoming chao adds more ironic tragedy to Chaos
wrong! Curse of Ra 𓀀 𓀁 𓀂 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊 𓀋 𓀌 𓀍 𓀎 𓀏 𓀐 𓀑 𓀒 𓀓 𓀔 𓀕 𓀖 𓀗 𓀘 𓀙 𓀚 𓀛 𓀜 𓀝 𓀞 𓀟 𓀠 𓀡 𓀢 𓀣 𓀤 𓀥 𓀦 𓀧 𓀨 𓀩 𓀪 𓀫 𓀬 𓀭 𓀮 𓀯 𓀰 𓀱 𓀲 𓀳 𓀴 𓀵 𓀶 𓀷 𓀸 𓀹 𓀺 𓀻 𓀼 𓀽 𓀾 𓀿 𓁀 𓁁 𓁂 𓁃 𓁄 𓁅 𓁆 𓁇 𓁈 𓁉 𓁊 𓁋 𓁌 𓁍 𓁎 𓁏 𓁐 𓁑 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊
Rumble leaks
That is awesome but I’ve just never touched rumble
Je a switch 2 thing lmao
oh so its jsut a switch 2 version
might just be switch 2 after all
would suck if they do QoL updates for just switch 2
We ain’t getting a new game this year after all lmao
man, it's actually funny how "2021 2"-core this is
I hope they also leak a "Sonic Collection" again that won't come out for at least 1 more year and won't get a phys.release till 2028
30th anniversary was so good the make 30th anniversary 2
Sega isnt capcom so i imagine they won't do that
when they leaked colors ultimate it was listed for each platform individually, but their early listing for origns was only ps4
so
literal coin flip
😬
Yeah is just switch 2 ver with a link outfit
I think timed exclusive for sure
Why would it
We haven't seen anything yet but I don't think they will add any new kind of content aside from skins
meh
we don't really have enough of a pattern to go off, there's only really kiwami 3
maybe they've literally just thrown the ps5/series x version on switch 2, maybe they actually bothered to go 'maybe we should do something about the pop in' after 5 years
?
Kiwami 3 was never on the switch
I think it's virtually impossible that they don't add anything that adds playtime value
Shadow Generations' port was just an upscale, but that came as a launch title for a game that came out half a year earlier
When sega clearly had no support plans for the switch 2
Definitive Edition implies enhanced port + all DLC
has to be something more
Yeah, there's no real reason for it to be a "Switch 2 timed exclusive" if it doesn't have anything new
Why is the assumption that they aren't adding anything new
What basis is this on
If they want good sales, they have every reason to add something, and they've had the time
Because it's the most realistic scenario for a company that tends to cheap out and do the bare minimum
It's a switch 2 version, they can cheap out
Definitive edition has a new story and content. Trust
Also doesn't help that the announcement-to-release pipeline is going to be real quick if June 23rd release is correct
ig yeah but like
they can also just say the next game is called frontiers 2 and push frontiers again by saying that the sequel is coming with the first game available on all platforms
Does nintendo still do Switch 2 upgrade Path?
And are they still strict about "upscaled games cost $10 to upgrade, games with new content cost $20"?
If so, sega has no reason not to add something to justify $20
Nothing crazy, but something worth at least 1-2 hours of extra play time
no one does that anymore 😭
What do they do now
they sell the game again
They were only strict about it with themselves
3rd party for the most part either makes the upgrade path free (or a small amount) or it's a separate SKU entirely
The 20 dollar upgrades were limited to Nintendo games and those had content
But also weird assumption that DE is a 20-dollar upgrade when the normal version without any sales is still 60
at best they can just do an update 4 being in the same way the update 2 was
but aside from that lol
I mean +$20 if u already owned it on switch to upgrade
Im sure they will also sell it full price if u don't have it already
But idk, you guys are saying they might just do that instead
Pretty much, yeah
can we pretend that something leaked I’m so bored
telling how you need sonic leaks to fill the void in your heart rather than filling it with something meaningful
Go to bed fizzy
We can always go to 4chan
For Frontiers DE?
some of us arebt allowed there
No, for pretending that something leaked
What do you mean some of us aren't allowed in 4chan
theyre not gonna like us pin.
What did y'all do

Let’s pretend a Sonic X Star Fox game got leaked
I’m a fucking corporation I need to feed fizzy
First Star Fox game to sell past the 1 million mark since the Nintendo 64
Star Fox adventures outsold Assault and 64 3D

This is why we can't have nice things (they're probably going to make another one tbh)
So cool
something did leak, Frontiers DE/Switch 2, other than that, either there is nothing else or they are managing to keep it secret
theory
what if Frontiers DE is an update to the base game but a seperate physical release for the switch
somewhat similar to what Hollow Knight did
I mean, with a subtitle like "Definitive Edition" it sounds like there should be stuff for non-switch 2 platforms
It's a good theory
quick question
did speed simulator have an event for Sonic Colors Ultimate?
Thats what im saying lmao
I dont think it was out at the time
I dont think so, Speed Simulator didn't exist when Colors Ultimate released
Speed Sim had events for Sonic Prime, Frontiers, Superstars, SXSG and Crossworlds
so pretty much every mainline release since it came out
i smell something imminent
I wouldn't say anything is imminent due to this necessarily; they've been working on it since December, and all of the additions have been surprises to them. If it were properly timed, tying into Frontiers DE promotion, they'd probably be less surprised by all these changes and approvals.
That said, I do think the new "maybe if" rendition is a solid indication that Frontiers DE will have changes in some way, so I do expect those to carry over to an update or something unless they want to be insane with it
10 songs that they're hoping to add later on yeah
Not necessarily all of them are new though
So then
what if they got Ian to do the optional dialogue this time
Do we agree that DE is the release of 2026 or are we expecting something else
2026 release
there's bound to be something else
I think Nate said something
Not expecting frontiers 2 this year #tbh
Frontiers DE this year with some changes followed by the announcement of what the next mainline is
My theory was a new classic game this year
But idk anymore
Cuz i have a theory with maybe an adventure collection but it's very tinfoil moment
Cuz like
this is what I believe their lineup is gonna be
Sonic Rewind finale
Sonic Frontiers DE
Next 3D game announcement
35th anniversary collabs (Godzilla and Fortnite)
Sonic X DC Metal Leigon
Mainline title reveal
F4F has this to be revealed in june, and methinks it looks like the ss/ssh transfo sequence... this on top of the new sa2 statue we're getting rn... idk man i'm just saying that's a lot of sa2
SA2 pandering with F4F isn't new anyway
Ehhhh idk
The only sa2 pandering from f4f is the old shadow one... and even then it was only the base
Actually
I think this is for 35th
does it sound different in any way because I haven’t checked yet
Can both things not be associated?
frontir 2
But I’m split if it’s a spin-off or a classic game
I think frontiers 2 is spring 2027
For the 4th movie
I am on the same boat too.
I don’t think frontiers de is the game of 2026
Still in belief it’s just a graphics update
i mean
a. Unlike adventure remakes we already know frontiers DE is happening, so like 
b. There’s more ground for speculation with “sega specifically sent us a new version of this song to use” instead of a remix made purely for social media
I feel like if they are going to do ever do SA1/SA2 remake it only depends if they are this confident doing a remake
This is crazy coming from me
But I see them doing a heroes remake before the adventure titles
Feel like that’s more of a safer bet
Honestly Heroes is the most likely Sonic remake due to three reason
- No longer able to get the engine
- One of the more "accessible" sonic games to get into
- Marketing of the current series (Sonic 4 movie with metal and amy)
^^^
well i was gonna say that heroes in general isn’t as well liked by people as sa1/2 so if they fuck up or change stuff theres less heat on their back
but that too
That was another reason
If they fucked up both of those remakes, hell would break loose 😭
But I expect that we get more focused with Metal instead
I know Amy fans are expecting what they got, but Metal got barebone compared to her recently
And even if Heroes remake does exist, it'll be strictly far more focused over metal
man Amy in a heroes remake might be the last straw for people 😭
saying that as if crossworlds wasn’t kind of that already
In that case then might as well not remake them ever, what kinda mentality is that 😭
A good mentality
I have to be real, EVEN if the remake is good people are going to bitch

I think they need to remake something like heroes first before they do that
If heroes does insanely well then ya u can do those remakes
I wonder
I would gladly take a heroes remake
Alright enough agenda posting
would a heroes remake get rid of the iconic "because, we're sonic heroes"
Put ur money down H3y
Heroes is the game I think people will be the most okay with if you changed literally everything about it funnily enough
SA2 for 35th?!?!
O
If you can't stake your claim then your agenda is hollow
get ready for shadow gens graphics talk but on a bigger scale then
Heroes remake = seaside hill remix = seaside denied remix

get ready for piss yellow rail canyon
No I don’t think we getting SA2 stuff 35th wise 
and desaturated seaside hill
there’s no way they’re not reusing gens and shad gens assets lets be serious
i MEANT sa2
most known sonic game thanks to ps2

honestly the only thing they need to fix about Shadow Gens' graphics is the lighting
everything else is, imo, on par with Sonic Unleashed
Oh don't get me wrong I don't mind sxsg lighting (I legit liked it a lot lmao)
I am more of worried over how they'll handle it is the thing
Because that's always been a dealbreaker when it comes to any remakes
Still no bets being made huh
#noticing
WHAT BET
probably because it’s a really boring one
But I won't be surprised if we get more story context about Neo at least the prologue
Like at least over how metal found out about shadow and chaos 0 while being out of commission
Erm you said you think SA2 will be at the 35th! Because F4F!
Yah
I'll consider SA1/SA2 remakes, if they don't delist the original versions
that’s a lame ass penalty wtf
cause if they mess up the remakes, you can always go back to play the originals
Nah it's appropriate
The delisting will always be stupid af
i've lost all hope...

without sonic central i have nothing.....
they're def gonna go the Sonic Gens route of delisting it but making it still available in bundles
I mean if it’s a remake, I don’t see why they’d feel the need to delist it
One week long pfp
"SA2 is dogshit" as a name in tc for a week
It’s not like two almost exact versions being up on the same platform but one is significantly cheaper
(gens)
(origins)
well it would be less effort i guess 
Tho, if it's like an sa1/sa2 compil it still count as me being right
is h3ylow betting on sa2 in general
Yes
like if it’s a re release would it- alr
Actually fuck I take this back
SA1 and 2 at the cost of having Sonic 4
I do think we will get a possible collection
If it’s a collection oh yeah kiss those steam versions goodbye
I just remebered SA and SA2 were taken off ps+ awhile ago
this WILL be the year we get the unleashed port and advance collection and dream team port and sa1/sa2 ports
sorry bettersadx it was fun while it lasted
uhhh sa2 doesn’t have any notable mods so idrc
render fix 😠
My forklift certified Eggman mod
I guess !
A woman beater? Not cool, Fizzy
if we don't get the announcement trailer for Frontiers DE in the next two weeks, we will get it next month
I think we are getting Frontiers DE and a spinoff this year, some other small shit
If it's not a spinoff
Anyway I had forgotten that an update on other platforms is nearly confirmed for Frontiers, because we saw the game was being updated on February - March via Steamdb
Same thing that happened to Origins before Plus
If true, it would debunk the "it's just prettier graphics on Switch 2" theory
@Alex_Hedgefox2 If everything goes according to plan, we'll have more news for everyone about the future of the game in May. We will discuss it on our Discord server.
Trust the plan
sonic blitz twitter account there’s a bum in your mentions
some fans be everywhere i swear
I’m saying like
Ben is this Friday so hopefully the update after that will tell us the next collab
Yeah Adira said Ben 10 would be Summer so I could defo see Sonic being soon if they got the timings off
I’m assuming Minecraft is just a axe or something so it’s not a big collab
It seems like the bigger collabs get more attention/hype like Regular Show, Ben 10, Ninjago, etc
https://vxtwitter.com/HYPEX/status/2047128959876296860/video/1?s=46 That's one of them
They look very good all things considered
sad
He’s busy fixing his car
only real funny thing is Heatblast model wise
true 🫡
his hands are really small here
oh yeah they shrunked his hands lmao
"smartest being in three galaxies, arguably five galaxies… let me tag along in this battle royale”
-Azmuth probably
He would do that lmao
He would’ve fix everything by now tbh
Azmuth back bling is hilarious
Was this just the showcase they just did about the Perfect Chaos boss mode, etc.?
Have they brought it forward or is it implying that there's gonna be a Sonic Central in May?
That’s rumble party with the perfect chaos boss fight, not blitz
We still haven’t heard anything about what’s being planned for Blitz, so it’s still all up in the air atm
Owie, you crashed FxTwitter :(
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This is most likely nothing
FORCES 2 BABYYYYY
Sonic Movie Forces
So it’s Sonic Forces 2 babyyyyy
Sonic Forces remaster
rereleasing any games but the ones stuck on older platforms
they gonna sell it as play it both to understand the story of the next game
Why would they do an entirely new registration???
Forces 2 babyyyyy
playable Infinite side story voiced by Alejandro Saab
This can be real finally
Bro imagine we’ve been all wrong and the next mainline is actually forces 2
That would be an insane twist
I mean
a Forces sequel with improved controls + open zone formula sounds fire
Please let it be real
ill fucking take it
I need to see the fandoms reaction
rewrite your own error
I wouldn’t mind an open zone Forces
They seem to be pushing IDW characters and the podcast was a major thing and they only talked about the events of Forces
Playable Whisper instead of Gadget 🤔
It would make even more sense with T&W also getting VAs recently

Not this gif AGAIN
They are 100% gonna add Tangle and Whisper, and some hint at how Infinite survives to connect it to Chaotix Casefiles
Although Tangle wasn't a hero during Forces
Whisper would be easy to add storywise, she worked alone in that period
I can’t see them doing a Forces DE with Tangle and Whisper being added since they were doing their own thing during Forces
You’d also have to introduce Jewel which would tie into the festival ig
Can any of yall check if they gave a date in that link?
Can’t seem to open it for some reason
I got you
If they call the next mainline game “Sonic Forces 2” bro. And oh I might evolve
Dang it
Nvm it crashed on me
yea the link is broken for me as well
Ok through twitter it opens
Finally
Sonic Forces 2
-# Sonic Generations 3
The next game in the Mario Advance series
I can’t translate it tho
Thanks 🙏
@hybrid hill
You know another thing that they've been doing lately is like
using Gadget as a character?
Lo más probable es que de ser un nuevo lanzamiento, se trate de Sonic Forces Mobile, que no está disponible oficialmente en Japón.
Bro imagine it’s just for Speed Battle 💀
That'd be hilarious
Thanks Fang 😤
Oh ya it could be forces mobile
Did Dream Team got something like this?
A dream team trademark would have been more exciting for obvious reasons
It was speed battle wasn’t it
Thank god
Sonic Forces 2 will be happening in a few decades anyway
forces mobile in japan baybeee


Apparently you can't download it from the store in that region even if there is a token listed for it currently
📑 Translated from Japanese
Is there a chance that the region lock on "Sonic Forces: Speed Battle" might get lifted?
Original text
ワンチャン、「ソニックフォース:スピードバトル」のおま国なくなる可能性ある?
Quoting Sonic Paradise (@sonicparadise)
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SEGA has registered the trademark "Sonic Forces" in Japan. This is a completely new registration published today, although the reason for it is unknown.
︀︀
︀︀chizai-watch.com/t/2026043422?a=SEGA+CORPORATION
Hm but
why would you need an entire separate register for it?
wouldn't you just do a tangencial one with the original one?
be either the og game or speed battle?
It’s not called Speed Battle apparently
According to the Play Store it’s called “Sonic Forces: PvP Battle Race”
I hope something worth talking about happens soon
But yeah little weird that the trademarked Forces specifically
Status is dead
That would explain it ig
For me it says dead
Would you explain it?
Well
I am not the most acquanticed with general copyright stuff
Not exact same
But at least SEGA filed it this time
So I'm not getting bamboozled
So it’s a different project? I’m confused
It's a trademark for generally the same goods and services as the original
Just under different classifications
Old classifications^

Interesting
New classifications^
So they renewed it basically right?
Comparing it with other cases of renewed trademarks, I'd say so
No
Rell I saw your tweet shush

And you didn’t like it?
Insane work
I mean don’t we all 😭😭
Ohhh. Wasn't Sonic Blitz found to have all sorts of crazy stuff in the files like modern versions of classic characters?
Yeah… it’s gone now…
Inshallah we get a Sonic Superstars updated version
The level design is certified kino but it lacks polish and resources being diverted to the meh multiplayer drags it down
If not I'm tempted to make a mod for it given it's just Unity
Superstars ain’t big enough to warrant an update esp now
I don't get why not, it wouldn't be very resource intensive and it'd be good PR
More random updates have happened for older games
why are u freeze but muslim mashallah 😭
What
dw about it theres a member here who said the same thing LOL
Know what?
The user that goes by freeze here is a big superstars fan
Oh uh
Apparently modding it is pretty difficult
ur leaking trade secrets
Fellow Sonic Superstars habibi
Idk I'm built different like that
So the mod that is out is not that finished
I saw someone managed to make a Sonic Rush mod that changes how Sonic controls a lot with new graphics
Idk how far it went though
i think they just stopped working on it 😭
My ass waiting for Sonic news atp
I never knew Ben 10 fans moved like sonic fans until this Fortnite shit dropped😭😭
Quoting Alex (@onslaughtiscool)
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i can tell they based bens fortnite skin colors off the stock art and not the colors he has in the show (NOT A COMPLAINT)
💀
Just because it is tangential to the fortnite leaks
well it's fortnite so it's understandable
this type of conversations exists in every fandom people need to stop saying its only sonci fan thing lmao
this isn't a sonic fan thing its a "you have spent too much time on the computer go the fuck outside NOW‼️" thing
unfortunately the venn diagram of the two groups looks like this
the difference is the sonic fans are more feral somehow
somehow? 😭
easy explanation for this: they stopped making Ben 10 alien force, there is a finite amount of show
with sonic there’s almost a constant revolving door of new stuff making its way out, even during the lull periods there were at least comics and bits
for ol benny tenny they made three connected shows, stopped and most people into it moved on with their lives while carrying the love for it in their hearts

