#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation

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wise chasm
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This dude's been on a streak going around tweeting "everything is fine, we're working on stuff please please please we're just a bit lean!!!!!!"

grand cobalt
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4 likes nobody gaf 😭

cunning echo
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Who is that

wise chasm
cunning echo
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Ahh

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Coolio

smoky summit
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Why is sega throwing money at this echat_spongeSussy

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Aside from the odd PC game this is like the most irrelevant event to them

wise chasm
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You're right, they should actually not throw money at anything anymore

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Hoard, not invest

smoky summit
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Also

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I gotta call this out

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I noticed that the person had to put a disclaimer in their bio that they are not a generative ai engineer

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1- im pretty sure generative ai pertains to everything the likes of chatgpt does (text, code, image, video), not just the latter 2

stiff salmon
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actually

smoky summit
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I know people wanna distinguish it such that generative ai only refers to image and video

wise chasm
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Ok, but there's still non-generative AI

stiff salmon
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^^

wise chasm
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Stuff like automated lipsync in games based on voicelines is considered AI

smoky summit
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The underlying systems are largely the same

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Is what im trying to say

wise chasm
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Damn, guess FF7 Remake should've been boycotted then since that game used the system I described

smoky summit
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Well that's the thing

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The boycotting is only a concern for image and video generation

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Not anything else 3dwaht

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Not AI image upscalers

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Not code generators

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And certainly not text generation

dusty osprey
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Code generators are imploding i dunno if you need to boycott that

smoky summit
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Even though technically all of those are/can be trained on the same stolen data

wise chasm
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That last one is not true, people called out the teams for using machine translations and even placeholder text

smoky summit
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They are not imploding for whoever it matters to

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It's simply a virtuous cycle that is too convenient to be gone now

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Open ai fails? It'll be replaced quickly

smoky summit
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I think yes, I see the pattern

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It's an issue when it's very apparent that it's taking away jobs

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Tho in some cases, I imagine those products may have not had voice acting or translations to those languages to begin with without ai

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Which is the ironic part

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And maybe that is the correct approach

lunar trench
smoky summit
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Oh oh

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And the real kicker

smoky summit
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But again

lunar trench
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The generative ai situation is crazy, what does it really mean to be AI generated? Why are people so upset at Larian Studios and other game developers being open about ai usage?

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smoky summit
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It's about how apparent and probable the job replacement is

lunar trench
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And good ytbr in general

smoky summit
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Not that it could happen at all or not

untold kayak
cunning echo
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Part of it's creation is to help out in coding too

untold kayak
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Generative is just one of the kinds

grand cobalt
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this MUST be a good video

lunar trench
smoky summit
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What we (in a very flimsy way) distinguish as generative ai vs non-generative ai is simply about how the output is presented to us

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And I had to look this up because I was thrown for a bit of a loop:

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But yes, auto lip syncing is pretty much generative ai even in the basic sense that people use that term as

wise chasm
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I'm not sure exactly where you're going with this

smoky summit
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It's all just food for thought

toxic vapor
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Are y’all talking bout ai usage in frontiers 2?

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A lot of ai is useful ngl but it gets to a limit

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But where can you define that limit

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Like for music, I’d argue stem splitting is an amazing use of ai

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Whilst generative ai vocals… isn’t

smoky summit
toxic vapor
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AI is defo being used for the concept art for the recent Sonic games

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Like it’s so obvious most of the industry will be doing it

smoky summit
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They probably already have to varying degrees

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For the last 2-3 years

toxic vapor
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Like it’s a big corpo

smoky summit
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There's this whole thing about "oh, only using models trained on company data"

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But man, I can already tell that is hella flimsy

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Like if they are using some existing model as basis to train their model on

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That model will already have data from all over the internet

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And then "ethical" usage and overseeing that gets thrown out the window when deadlines have to be met

toxic vapor
cunning echo
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Ai has the TC files

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💔

grand cobalt
raw osprey
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sega fans doesn’t even try to defend sega anymore they just look at you like this

still epoch
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whens future game show

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i might take a look cuz it has square enix

cunning echo
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Todsy

still epoch
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what time

cunning echo
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In an hour I think

wise chasm
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and maybe Bravely Default PC port, which is already out

rugged otter
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yes makoto, i will indeed enjoy Sonic Rumble Part

untold kayak
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my bad

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wrong channel

still epoch
coarse ferry
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Yeah I’m not sure why sega fans even expecting any news at all in future gaming show 🙃

untold kayak
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of not getting news

coarse ferry
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I used to think but I realize more that…. First half of 2026 felt very empty outside of capcom and Pokémon

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altho I am more bothered SEGA showing us more sonic rumbles instead of any upcoming sega games 💀

cunning echo
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well

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they gotta recover some rumble monee

coarse ferry
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maybe 💀

stiff salmon
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update: https://x.com/thevscooper/status/2032567174280180158

ik we kinda dont trust this guy but atp we're just feening for anything rn

So this doesnt mean ONE big shared universe, its unification

Its more like creative alignment with film, TV & games around the same themes, character direction & long-term plans. Each their own continuities but similarites stay consistent with references across them

coarse ferry
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Stone in game series plz

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🙏

wise chasm
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I mean, yeah, we...knew that already

untold kayak
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So basically what they already did with Shadow Gens/movie 3

rugged otter
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pretty much what it seemed like

untold kayak
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where some elements aligned but still remained in their continuities

rugged otter
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not Canon™ canon but like
just what's acceptable to guidelines and etc

wise chasm
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It's also funny how they took a month to say this lmao

stiff salmon
rugged otter
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new tasty leak is out:
chaotix case files episode 8 will be the last episode as of this time whoooaaaaaaaaaa

smoky summit
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He said absolutely nothing of value

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That I almost believe him now

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Because he thought this clarification is something fans didn't already know

still epoch
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So is the amigo leak thing fake?

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Can i hope somehow for infinite like a loser

stiff salmon
coarse ferry
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wait it's fake?

still epoch
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You know what this means

stiff salmon
coarse ferry
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welp 😔

stiff salmon
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i got shut down in gen yesterday for even suggesting this but

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the fact they still haven't had a trailer for the next 4 for the patch is well

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very suspicious

raw osprey
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didnt new patch is releasing on 18th?

stiff salmon
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no character trailer yet though

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im betting on a sonic central on wednesday if anything

still epoch
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Pwa pwu pwa pwu pwa pwu

raw osprey
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tbh i did expect central this week but rumble spotlight and first chapter of chaotix finale ruined it

rugged otter
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really wondering what set of free characters await us
will it be infinite
will it be ulala...
will it be scrunt...

still epoch
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Why do people want central

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Its just here is ivo and here is lego

raw osprey
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what you mean why

rugged otter
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because they haven't had enough misery with the rumble direct

raw osprey
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because people want news

still epoch
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We can have news in a better form in June

rugged otter
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alwyays bet on nothing with sonic directs!!!

raw osprey
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bro i just want my sega central

stiff salmon
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or fuck it sega central

rugged otter
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shadowdrops are always gonna be better
like fun surprises

stiff salmon
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doesnt have to be sonic central

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because atp they kinda have to show TMNT

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avatar that can wait

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but like TMNT? idk if that's a shadowdrop ngl 😭

ember junco
rugged otter
rugged otter
ember junco
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I’d just rather have like a semi frequent bulk Sonic news drop

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Like if they had like Sonic Central minis or smth every month or 2

raw osprey
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this is konami spot not segas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

raw ether
wheat kindle
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What do you mean the Amigo leak was fake? All of it or just the festival description on the tweet?

still epoch
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Infinite back on the table

wise chasm
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can the table be shown tho

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please

cunning echo
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Even so Amigo wouldn't be a crazy pick anyways

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It would probably happen anyways

cunning echo
wise chasm
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a week after

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but the patch is March 18th

cunning echo
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Ahh

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Might be revealed next Friday

wise chasm
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th

no?

cunning echo
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The cards have spoken

wise chasm
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We'll know what it is on March 18th at the absolute latest

wise chasm
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👿

wise chasm
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This aged poorly, but in a weird way

coarse ferry
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oh yeah LMAO

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I guess this give us proof we can see a 2nd rep of a same franchise too

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Despite only 3 current slots as of yet

stiff salmon
untold kayak
scarlet ether
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Cuz you all are getting the Captain variant

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I am still correct

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and you won’t correct me on that

rugged otter
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please let the last three characters be Beat and Ulala and Sakura/Amigo/Joe Musashi/Phantom R/BD Joe/Blaze Fielding

dusty osprey
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Its time
For aegis

coarse ferry
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Yeah I'll say it's inevitable we may get a ATLUS 2nd rep

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But I have hard time believing we'll end off with 3 chars left

rugged otter
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aigis would be nice but
I would like there to be a 2nd free pass that included her keanu

coarse ferry
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That of course 🫡

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I can't see them pass on with season 2

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You can clearly see a huge amount of reception after each char releases

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Miku, Arle, and Tangle/Whisper being the most notable ones

rugged otter
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oh man, Arle and Miku in a SEGA racer at last

hybrid hill
dawn pumice
hybrid hill
dawn pumice
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Classic sonic for sure is the June character

still epoch
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whats up

hybrid hill
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who TF is extnd 19 and 20

dawn pumice
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2 characters that share a vehicle

hybrid hill
dawn pumice
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💀

silent haven
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since he’s 5 charas

hybrid hill
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Yeah Pac-Man is already mentioned up top

silent haven
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oh im blind

rugged otter
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can beat be in this game, please

hybrid hill
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Wait

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Avatar is going to have 2 characters?

silent haven
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yeah

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we know one is obviously aang because of the pre-release leaks

hybrid hill
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okay hold on lemme prep this rq

smoky summit
rugged otter
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so who is the 2nd
Zuko?

coarse ferry
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So if we go by these slots, I might as well take a guess:

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Classic Sonic, 2nd ATLUS Rep, Joe Musashi (Shinobi)

silent haven
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it’s probably zuko or korra

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take your pick

coarse ferry
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Avatar wise my guess is Korra

cunning echo
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one is 2 characters in one

rugged otter
fossil echo
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What duo will be in the next free set

cunning echo
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idk

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amigo?

modest parcel
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Classic Sonic

And Boom Sonic!

rugged otter
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Maybe one of them is Sakura?

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considering the board

cunning echo
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burning rangers chars

rugged otter
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that'd be sick af

silent haven
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if we buy into the classic in june theory wouldn’t that mean one of the characters would be missing a vehicle

smoky summit
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Classic is such a waste of a slot lmao

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Im glad they are doing season 2

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Hope to see much more sega ips

dawn pumice
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U know what’s crazy

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I actually don’t think classic is a waste of a slot 😭

cunning echo
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it kinda is

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the game already has sonic

wise chasm
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The game has 2 Sonics

cunning echo
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2 sonics

wise chasm
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and 2 Tailses and 2 Knuckleses and 2 Amys

coarse ferry
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3* sonics

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Got modern, super sonic, and the werehog 🫡

wise chasm
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Right, Super Sonic

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so yeah, technically 3

coarse ferry
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But honestly I can see them skip classic sonic while doing a 35th anniversary event

silent haven
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i would genuinely prefer fang & trip but god knows that ain’t happening

pulsar horizon
cunning echo
smoky summit
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I know there's 0 chance it happens this year

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But fingers crossed for April fools mini rpg 😔

nova quail
wheat kindle
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I just read that the "season finale" for the Chaotix Casefiles is from the official Sonic tweet

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oh boy, what if Infinite returns in season 2?

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I'm scared now, I hope he comes back for a new game regardless of season 2 of the podcast

fossil echo
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I dont think its got anything to do with infinite actually, just that we could get another adventure with the chaotix

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Cause they accept a new case at the end
Its one of those, job's never over leading into endless cases

silent haven
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good news puyo fans

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you will be able to hear arle's voice

prime hearth
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p sure thats from the jukebox right

silent haven
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yes

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if they let you hear her voice in bgm but don't actually give her sfx i think people will go insane

pulsar horizon
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I NEED HIM TO SAY HE WANTS TO KILL EVERYONE

prime hearth
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ohhhh fuck that results music is real clean

untold kayak
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They did my boys so much justice

pulsar horizon
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Every trick is the victory clips lol

silent haven
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the closest any dlc has gotten to actually having a voice besides miku and it's the fucking angry bird

forest fractal
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Yes dude

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Deserved

pulsar horizon
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Is that the only voice clip?

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Cause like

forest fractal
pulsar horizon
pulsar horizon
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Cmon

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Wait

pulsar horizon
still epoch
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Everyone shush new puyo 1 level 1 remix

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I like how it sounds more faithful to the original

still epoch
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Sad for no puyo tsu

silent haven
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they have the actual cheer effects from the game for when you do tricks but red still just uses sound effects

still epoch
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Can we stop talking about fad bird

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Arle is here

silent haven
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i'm gonna talk about him even more now just for that

still epoch
silent haven
pulsar horizon
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Lemme enjoy him

strange estuary
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Could've selected something better

pulsar horizon
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Definitely having the AB theme as my final lap song if it’s available in jukebox

silent haven
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festival teams if anyone gaf

untold kayak
ember junco
silent haven
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nope

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it's mega man

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proto man

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and

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Air Man

untold kayak
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Air Man?

ember junco
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??????

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Random ass choice but pop off ig?

silent haven
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Air Man.

untold kayak
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???

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weird choice

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Bass was there

ember junco
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WHAT

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WHAT

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WHAT

untold kayak
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WHAT

ember junco
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WHAT

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AAAAAAAAAAA

humble drum
smoky summit
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NANI

ember junco
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ITS PEAK

humble drum
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I CAN JUST SHOOT PEOPLE NOW?

humble drum
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HELL YEAH

ember junco
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I FEAR

modest parcel
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@dawn pumice

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ITS REAL

ember junco
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TELL ME IT REPLACES THE PUNCH OR SMTH

modest parcel
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You can

silent haven
modest parcel
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Charge it up

humble drum
ember junco
untold kayak
verbal tundra
untold kayak
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it's not an entire different weapon in the canon

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or Dr. Light

verbal tundra
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Guess we fuck with air man now

humble drum
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they said bass

untold kayak
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I read just Roll

humble drum
stiff salmon
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SHOW ME SKETCHOG

untold kayak
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LMAOOO

grand cobalt
untold kayak
verbal tundra
ember junco
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I’m praying the Buster ain’t just like limited time for the Fest or some shit

ember junco
untold kayak
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I mean

ember junco
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Like “oh you can shoot things like mega man because of the attack animation” or smth

untold kayak
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I thought it just referred to them promoting Megaman

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use the iconic Mega Buster

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But so cool

sick bobcat
untold kayak
sick bobcat
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no other car racing game will let you shoot people with the Mega Buster

humble drum
pulsar horizon
stiff salmon
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WHERE'S EMOTES

humble drum
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one of the puyo teams should have been satan fr

pulsar horizon
ember junco
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TRUE

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I NEED TO KNOW IF MEGA MANS EMOTES ARE SO RETRO OR GOOD

humble drum
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thrown in the retro pile with pac-man

ember junco
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I have hope

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Because Mega Man’s emotes weren’t pixel art

stiff salmon
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THE MEGA BUSTER IS A ITEM IN CROSSWORLDS TO USE

SONIC RACING CROSSWORLDS | ANGRY BIRDS EVENT

SONIC RACING CROSSWORLDS | ANOTHER YAKUZA EVENT

ember junco
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They’re just Minecraft

verbal tundra
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WHO IS THIS???

ember junco
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She’s from Movie 2

verbal tundra
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Oh okay

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I ain’t watch the 2nd movie yet

ember junco
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Lock in on the Angry Bird lore

stiff salmon
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NO SKETCHOG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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MAJIMA SKETCHOG

ember junco
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At least the Bye emotes are good

verbal tundra
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The bye stickers r killing me

stiff salmon
pulsar horizon
stiff salmon
pulsar horizon
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But not actually Silver

ember junco
pulsar horizon
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Does Red have his banner’s available?

ember junco
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The Air Man love is so bizzare but I’m here for it

pulsar horizon
silent haven
pulsar horizon
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Honestly

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Why not use the game designs for the banners and decals

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Have a rep of both

ember junco
pulsar horizon
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Yeah like have the banners have the game designs and the emotes or decals have the game designs as well

silent haven
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last 3 aren't part of the ones added today

wide portal
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it’s a shame they skimped out on game designs but I guess there is that new movie coming up vectorRunners

silent haven
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Drift Spinner Kit: Lv 1 Quick Charge + Spin Drift "A kit that makes the Level 1 Drift Charge fill slightly faster. Spin and knock away other machines while drifting."
Item Buster Kit: Item Attack Bounty + Item Chance Up "A kit that makes Attack items appear more often. Get Rings for attacking others."
Panel Combo Kit: Dash Panel Combo Bounty + Handling Tuner + Power Tuner "A kit for using Dash Panels to get Rings.Use multiple Dash Panels in a row to get more Rings. Increases Power and Handling."
Speed Character Kit 2: Invincible Start + Starting Boost Bounty, Speed Characters get stat adjustments "A kit to become invincible when the race starts, and get Rings with a successful Starting Boost. Speed characters get stat adjustments."

cunning echo
dawn pumice
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It was real?

modest parcel
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Yep

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!

dawn pumice
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Ya we’ve found this months ago in the files 😭 😭 😭

modest parcel
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For reference

dawn pumice
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Still uh

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Surprised they’ve kept it in

wind bay
# verbal tundra WHO IS THIS???

That’s Silver, a bird introduced in Angry Birds 2 (both the game and the movie). In the movies, she’s Chuck’s sister.

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In the games, she hatched from a fourth egg (outside of the main three) that the Pigs took, and they would raise her until she grew up and joined the birds

verbal tundra
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OH THATS THE GIRL FROM THE 2ND GAME

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OOOOOHHHH

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I do not fw her design in the movie wtf

wind bay
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yeah, she got significantly redesigned compared to the original game cast

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like

untold kayak
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THAT'S MY BOY!

dawn pumice
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Uh wow

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That’s buns 😭

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Also would’ve thought they done the victory theme

still epoch
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No

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Have more megaman 2 theme

verbal tundra
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YALL HATE EVERYTHING BRO

still epoch
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Lmfaoooooo

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Well i think it looks good

verbal tundra
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IF THIS WAS FUCKIN BLORPO DORPLO FROM SOME SHITTY ASS3D PLATFORMER ON THE GAMECUBE YALL BE NUTTIN UP A STORM

spice axle
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LMAO

dawn pumice
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Rayman

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Also this Megaman remix

verbal tundra
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Rayman is an idf soldier

strange estuary
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Oh, Red somehow has it even worse...

modest parcel
dawn pumice
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I think u can?

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They’ve might’ve not been holding down the button

untold kayak
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that's the most beautiful arrangement of Proto Man's motif that I've heard

grand cobalt
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literally what is wrong with it 😭

dawn pumice
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Wanted his victory theme

grand cobalt
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boo hoo

coarse ferry
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Oh shit

grand cobalt
untold kayak
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Maybe my hot take on Megaman

the franchise's victory themes aren't very good

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(just referring to classic, not sure if this changes with X)

humble drum
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are popping

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garbage puyo item from the japanese version of transformed when

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(yes I know the mod exists)

prime hearth
untold kayak
scarlet ether
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speaking of the NES...
Mega Man's Festival teams

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yep

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that's all of em

untold kayak
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the random Air Man love

scarlet ether
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it's a big "Mega Man 2" shaped bonanza

untold kayak
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Protoman didn't debut in 2 :p

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he debuted in 3

scarlet ether
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don matter

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have this jukebox image

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it's mega man 2

untold kayak
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Yeah, it's just funny how they try to frame it as 2

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but Proto's 3 as Break Man

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Oh also

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there are more IDW decals

scarlet ether
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but hey

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there is something NOT from Mega Man 2

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it's a decal with Mega Man's art from 11

untold kayak
scarlet ether
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mega man and proto man's stamps!
they're NES sprites

untold kayak
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They're Nes-styled

scarlet ether
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don't care

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nes is nes

untold kayak
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but these in particular are of Megaman 9

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In nes, Protoman's sprites were more crimson

scarlet ether
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speaking of

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notice the error here

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a letter is missing

untold kayak
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really?

scarlet ether
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really

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look closely

raw osprey
untold kayak
raw osprey
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Also yea damn a whole new item

untold kayak
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they give you rings when destroyed with the mega buster

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in the megaman games, the enemies sometimes drop lives or healing items when destroyed

untold kayak
ember junco
silent haven
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oh wtf

ember junco
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I do kinda wonder what a lot of these decals are gonna be for

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Like the classic Sonic stuff is probably for a Fest but those IDW and character art ones could be for anything

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Maybe new Decals to buy with Tickets?

untold kayak
hybrid hill
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more gameplay in the tweet

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oh uhh

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mega buster item showcased as well

untold kayak
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Oh

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Megaman 2's victory theme is in crossworlds

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you must finish a race at Wily's Castle to get it

strange estuary
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SPOILER ALERT: RED IS (Semi-) VOICED!?!?!?
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︀︀He may not have the grunts and yells by Antti Ilmari Pääkkönen as heard in media like Angry Birds Toons, Angry Birds 2 and Angry Birds Makerspace, but instead his voice clips are... SOUNDS FROM ROVIO CLASSICS: ANGRY BIRDS!?!?!?

Quoting Cyn (Mostly Inactive) (@SxlverCyn)

Sonic Racing Crossworlds | Red Gameplay (No victory animation cause my game keeps crashing)

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cunning echo
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ngl

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the music is at like 200%

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😭

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I can barely hear it

strange estuary
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I can take it over generic SFX

verbal tundra
silent haven
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mega man

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the blue bo-i mean flash

wise chasm
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|| Dr. Light Numbers ||

wise chasm
coarse ferry
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Like the fact both games are very consistent over megaman 2 love is crazy

wise chasm
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Capcom hits you with Megaman 2 propaganda the same way Sega hits you with Green Hill Zone from Sonic Generations propaganda

coarse ferry
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exactly lmao

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meanwhile Pac-Man

rugged otter
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The tracks sound real nice, though would've been nice if they did some inch deeper cuts, though in Arle's case she gets a pass while Megaman gets used in things often

wise chasm
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Hell, Dual Override announcement had the orchestrated Wily Castle 2 before the trailer

rugged otter
#

It's dire lmfao
Like good theme but yeah

#

Practically Megaman theme 😭

coarse ferry
#

It really is a Capcom problem like with SEGA over Sonic 💀

wise chasm
#

ok but what's up with that sonic holding a chili dog sprite

coarse ferry
#

yeah that I have 0 idea

dusty osprey
silent haven
prime hearth
#

I would've killed for some X stuff but like

#

the iconic stuff is iconic for a reason lol, of course they'd use it

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(also its another example of "oh sonic really is the only one that fucked their music rights for the early games huh" which is always funny lmao)

coarse ferry
#

Ikr? 💀

dusty osprey
#

God

coarse ferry
#

looks at Smash bros.

dusty osprey
#

I wish it was x instead

#

X and zero

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On the weird bikes

prime hearth
#

at the very least I'm glad they didn't cut in straight to star force to tie in with the new collection

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like, nothing against star force but I'm glad the classic lads are here

dusty osprey
#

Star force woud have been cool

#

especally music

untold kayak
#

In Japanese, originally, the robot Masters wasnt a concept. That was something of the American side

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||the bosses were determined by who created them, with the first round of robots Made in Megaman 1 be Dr. Light Numbers. Basically the title refers that you're a creation of Light lol||

untold kayak
#

||Though I do think Blue Bomber would've Made more sense but alas||

humble drum
strange estuary
#

The sprite isn't that bad, but his arm could look better

#

He's doing a really weird pose

humble drum
#

#airmanforcrossworlds

silent haven
#

no you can’t

untold kayak
#

I suppose it is done for balancing purposes

#

still, kinda cool

#

I like how it works akin to a weapon of the robot masters

#

even the UI takes from the lifebar/usage bar

lunar trench
#

or they sent mails and capcom was the first to respond lmao

humble drum
#

spongebob should have been in the 2nd cup and mega man in the 1st

humble drum
#

sonic r tracks in the files
a duo of characters sharing a vehicle
tails doll randomly gets a plush

#

it's them

silent haven
#

you got lucky with the memes about angry bird

#

you won’t get lucky again

humble drum
silent haven
#

oh thats right

humble drum
silent haven
#

you didn’t get lucky

#

and you still won’t

humble drum
#

what if

#

the vehicle

strange estuary
humble drum
#

is this

strange estuary
#

They need to stay hip and collab with Skibidi Toilet

strange estuary
#

(I still believe that's actually 100% possible)

humble drum
strange estuary
humble drum
#

I just needed a picture with them both in it-

strange estuary
#

I'd be scared to see modern Metal Knuckles because his design would probably be butchered like that

strange estuary
#

I think his classic design is basically perfect

humble drum
pulsar horizon
#

What could’ve been….

silent haven
#

you look disgusting

prime hearth
#

its so funny that we were having the convo abt ristar not getting in cos he looks bad from the back

#

only for the game to drop a literal fuckin red jellybean lmao 😭

coarse ferry
#

Yeah lmao

still epoch
#

God crossworlds can look so ugly sometimes

raw osprey
mint umbra
#

hes got that shadow generations looking fresnel lighting

raw osprey
#

ok wow thats an insult to shadow gens freshel lighting

mint umbra
#

idk man have you see movie dlc shadow

#

its rough

raw osprey
#

hes rough but i dont remember it looking that bad

#

idk why but he looks the worse in first cutscene

still epoch
#

I want fresnel lighting dead

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DEAD

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like why are we still doing this IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD SEGA STOP

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DELETE THE FILE OF FRESNEL

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DO NOT USE IT

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They dont know how to use it ever and they keep using it and it looks like trash

mint umbra
#

FRESNEL CAN LOOK FINE

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A LOT OF GAMES USE IT AND U DONT NOTICE

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It just has to be subtle

#

And also, mostly works for specific aesthetics

still epoch
#

Yes but sonic team cant do it

modest parcel
#

Bc I find myself annoyed by it even in games like Nintendo games

raw osprey
#

sonci generations

modest parcel
#

U gotta include screenshots (am at work)

still epoch
#

Mario Galaxy

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Mario 3D World…

mint umbra
#

Sonic unleashed

still epoch
#

Oh come on sonic unleashed does it correctly

still epoch
#

To the point you cant really notice it

mint umbra
#

Yeah I thought he asked for examples of games where it's done correctly?

still epoch
#

Well yes

raw osprey
modest parcel
mint umbra
#

You can notice it in unleashed, it's just good

#

It adds and doesn't distract

still epoch
#

Generations is crap

mint umbra
#

Yeah gens fresnel is like the worst

modest parcel
#

Sonic unleashed on top #asusual

mint umbra
#

Lost world fresnel is not bad either!!

mint umbra
#

If nothing else lost world is pretty good in the sonic shader game...

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Admittedly not AS good as unleashed, but alright

still epoch
#

Its ok yea

mint umbra
#

Forces has fine fresnel but it's kinda hard to talk about without being distracted by the hideous fur color

raw osprey
still epoch
#

Hmm

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It looks smooth enough to me

raw osprey
still epoch
#

Ok but hes wet

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Its raining

raw osprey
#

you can do better wet mario

#

odyssey did it better

prime hearth
still epoch
#

Odyssey did better but also odyssey isnt built on a framework from 2013

strange estuary
still epoch
#

Well it would look way more flat

wide portal
rugged otter
#

don't let anyone say otherwise
#Fresnel4Life

fossil echo
rugged otter
#

the normals on them look off

fossil echo
#

yeah

rugged otter
#

almost looks like they shouldn't have bothered touching them atp

prime hearth
#

I'm glad its at least isolated to one of the characters I'll prolly never play lol

rugged otter
#

truue

#

idgaf about red, Arle looks amazing and I'm happy

prime hearth
#

maybe I'm just in the wrong generation but I feel nowt over him in

#

arle is absolutely the main event and I'm not even that big of a puyo gal lol

rugged otter
#

I think it just feels right that she makes her debut in a racing game alongside Sonic, like it's been a long time coming

prime hearth
#

actually scratch that, the main main event for me are the sega tunes

rugged otter
#

but also it's cool how they managed to adapt the style into a 3D model

coarse ferry
#

Having arcade racer music in Crossworld is a huge W

#

Moment I hear Daytona. I locked in hard

rugged otter
#

I still think we should get like
12 more arcade racing tracks vecort

prime hearth
#

only issue I've got is a suffering from success one, I've favourited so many good jukebox tracks that I only rarely get the sega tunes lmao

rugged otter
#

it's in this game's blood, it deserves more daytona, rally aaaand initial d

prime hearth
#

god I would kill for more daytona tunes

#

wheres sky high................

coarse ferry
#

Same, but also SEGA Rally

rugged otter
prime hearth
#

yeah I've got like 40 tracks in there lmao

still epoch
#

Can you choose multiple albums???

#

HOW

prime hearth
#

no you can only choose one, but the one I chose was favourites

still epoch
#

is there a favorites album?

#

Did i miss that? Lmfao

prime hearth
#

yee, got a yellow/gold icon IIRC

still epoch
#

What the actual f

prime hearth
#

the only weird thing worth noting is that final lap tracks will only play on a final lap

raw ether
#

wtf is fresnel lighting

grand cobalt
#

latest graphics buzz word /j

strange estuary
still epoch
#

Basically mario galaxy yea

#

The light around mario

hybrid hill
#

I fucking hate Mario galaxy Mario

#

Big ass head big ass

still epoch
#

He has such a big head

lavish iron
raw osprey
#

ypu have big ass spectre and thats normal

#

but when amrio ahve big head thats where you draw the line

#

fuck you man

hybrid hill
#

smart

#

anmd if u have a big head = ur stdupid

cunning echo
strange estuary
#

Fart smella

pulsar horizon
#

There’s a lot of people thinking it’s the Sonic collab

wide portal
#

any reason why

naive geyser
#

if I had to guess, code name with “Flick” in it sounds like it could be related to flickies

#

could also just be an anime since it’s cel shaded, don’t see why they’d do that for Sonic tbh

untold kayak
naive geyser
#

ay it’s a guess, I know as much as you lol

pulsar horizon
wise chasm
silent haven
#

mildly interesting find from the crossworlds modding server for anyone looking for cope: the demo actually has support for more character slots than the full game (which doesn't display anything past 56 slots) when you use mods to expand it

rugged otter
#

potential slots...
(worst case scenario, maybe this might be handy for modding)

scarlet ether
silent haven
#

do you really believe that

wise chasm
untold kayak
dawn pumice
#

Ur gonna get ||Shadow||

smoky summit
#

Ayo

#

Switch 2

ember junco
#

An actual leak has hit #1309325201426743337

wheat kindle
#

Thank Gaia, now I can speculate

#

First things first, I need that graphics update, on Switch 2 and hopefully you can upgrade instead of buying the whole game again at full price, I bought it twice already SEGA

strange estuary
#

We're all buying it a third time

wheat kindle
#

If they want us to buy it again besides on Switch 2, they will need to give us more content, I would like, besides more challenges and characters, more cohesion in the world, some major fix for update 3, and if they could mash up the 2 Ouranos + stories, it would be great

#

instead of having the best final act of the game hidden within a tiny Warp Ring, and with a messy DLC

#

Rhea also needs a lot of rethinking, but I doubt they will do something big with this edition, because yeah, I would 100% direct all the resources towards the next main game

#

The major things are graphics update on SW2 + technical issues fix + some mini new shit

strange estuary
#

Wait, what major fix for update 3?

wheat kindle
#

either they can integrate it with the main game so we have 1 ending, balance some more things like the combat with guardians (either too hard or too easy)

#

and balance the Koco challenges too

strange estuary
#

Just general improvements, then

wheat kindle
#

they were either too easy or too hard, again

strange estuary
#

I genuinely would like that

wheat kindle
#

Update 3 was so cool but so messy

fossil echo
#

Why yall thinking this is anything more than a switch 2 version

#

dont set yourselves up for disappointment like this

wise chasm
#

It'd be called Nintendo Switch 2 Edition then

#

Like Crossworlds is called Sonic Racing Crossworlds Nintendo Switch 2 Edition

coarse ferry
#

^

wise chasm
#

Or it'd be a completely separate SKU and it'd just be called Sonic Frontiers (aka SxSG scenario)

smoky summit
prime hearth
#

I think it’s a safe bet by this point yeah

fossil echo
coarse ferry
#

Interesting. So that makes 3 possible SEGA related announcement in the showcase

#

With Strangers of Heaven (Xbox flatout confirmed it lmao) P4R and now Frontiers definitive edition

wise chasm
fossil echo
#

i forget, was there any paid dlc?

#

oh

coarse ferry
#

No

#

So unless it's going to be just visual upgrade, it's very vauge over what they'll do

#

But at the same time, it won't be anything crazy

fossil echo
#

maybe korone for american this time lol

wise chasm
#

I guess they could also put Korone shoes in

coarse ferry
#

or that lmao

#

But I feel like they are doing this just so they give us something until "Frontiers 2" is good to go which is most likely next year atp

lunar trench
wise chasm
#

It's even on sale for 20 banana rn on steam

coarse ferry
#

But legit I feel like the only new thing they could do is letting us play tails, knuckles, and amy in other island. That's about it

raw osprey
prime hearth
#

honestly if this is their big new thing for 2026 I absolutely think we’re getting another year of crossworlds too lol

#

like, if we were in big new game territory I could see em not doing that to have all eyes on said new game

#

but this is v clearly a stop-gap year for bigger things happening in the background

wise chasm
#

The "Definitive Edition" moniker is kinda funny because it can either be like those GoTY editions where they just put all content on disc and do nothing else

Or it could be Xenoblade 1 and Xenoblade X

prime hearth
#

(which is kinda wild considering it’s the anniversary lol, but still)

raw osprey
wise chasm
#

A decent bit

#

Graphics for one

#

Also the cut continent got reframed into a separate campaign that linked to XB3...in some way

#

The UI was redone to make it less, well, Xenoblade 1

#

Some XP changes were there iirc

rugged otter
#

I do think it's not often we get definitive sonics out there so maybe the standard might be a bit different and we might get something a little more substantial
especially if they have nothing else this year outside of side stuff and crossworlds

#

could this be another testing ground for more stuff they'll be tinkering with the next game on

raw osprey
#

again i just think its gonna be everything on disc with some qol improvements that you can upgrade with 5$

wise chasm
#

I guess my point was that "Definitive Edition" can imply different things

coarse ferry
still epoch
#

I truly hope its like xeno 1

cunning echo
#

Sonic frontiers hedgehog engine 3 RTX 8k edition

pulsar horizon
sick hollow
humble drum
#

Make Tails Knuckles and Amy playable in the other islands and a post game unlocked skin for them to remove the ghost effects

prime hearth
#

you know what? do the opposite

#

Tails Knux and Amy in a new cyberspace open zone, concurrent with the main story

#

then after clearing said extra story with em you get to play as em in the main game proper

stiff salmon
#

this leak is hella fake man cmon 😭😭

wise chasm
#

Put the fries in the bag bro

untold kayak
stiff salmon
#

mods send him to the chamber of doom thank you

stiff salmon
prime hearth
#

pretty sure he doesn't lol

#

lemme grab up a playthru rq

#

(oh man desktop discord is shitting itself atm lol)

#

hmm, right so

#

he says it but not about chaos island, he's standing next to sunset heights

#

which makes sense considering this is gens shadow who hasn't gone thru forces yet

#

so no, not a next game tease vecort

untold kayak
forest fractal
#

Yeah there’s no real guarantee we’ll see Shadow on these islands

untold kayak
#

but it isn't something mayor really

smoky summit
#

This will either age like Cheddar or Mozzarella

untold kayak
#

the time eater just picked places wildly to bring them there

forest fractal
#

The best we got is a name drop from Sonic in Frontiers anyway

#

Well it’s not random since Eggman was controlling it in Gens

dawn pumice
forest fractal
#

Eggman had a reason to displace these locations in White Space

prime hearth
untold kayak
#

That's not a place eggman even visitted in 06

smoky summit
#

I can see them doing Metal Sonic instead for ease of use and Sonic 4 collab

untold kayak
#

(nor has any real way of knowing given 06 self erased of the timeline)

forest fractal
#

Now that’s something worth digging into

cunning echo
still epoch
#

Can we have anyone BUT shadow

rugged otter
#

aright then, let's put Silver in

#

time for all the potential to flow in

prime hearth
#

we're putting in the care bears and you'll goddamn LIKE IT

cunning echo
#

Also I'm sure shadow asked due to sunset heights

modest parcel
cunning echo
#

As for chaos island, iirc one of the egg memos talked about Gerald on it or similar

smoky summit
#

Chadow > Supreme

#

The End.

smoky summit
#

That's a pretty big implication lol

rugged otter
#

you know what
Blaze
why? idc, just do it.

humble drum
humble drum
wheat kindle
#

WHAT

still epoch
#

Do blaze do silver do espio do zavok just not shadow again man

untold kayak
modest parcel
#

Silver would be cool

#

Time travel... to the ancients time.......

#

I WANT THIS NOW DAMN

#

Best character for the setting

#

Idk what plot beats would be beckoning him towards the islands though

fossil echo
#

Frontiers, episode shadow edition

modest parcel
#

You could have him have portals to and from the present and have time travel puzzles

fossil echo
#

Greedhog needs food

modest parcel
#

And the future perhaps

modest parcel
#

At least Episode Shadow gave Infinite good food

fossil echo
#

You will take your slopdow content and enjoy it

modest parcel
untold kayak
#

Are we sure? I'd argue episode shadow destroyed infinite's pr

untold kayak
modest parcel
#

This is ur new thing after casefiles as if the weakness thruline isn't intrinsic to Infinite's char

wise chasm
modest parcel
fossil echo
#

Sonic x shadow frontiers ft infinite's return

modest parcel
#

No....

modest parcel
#

He'll return for Frontiers 2 though!

#

Just leave shadow out of frontiers 1

fossil echo
#

Frontiers episode shadow is the prelude trust

modest parcel
smoky summit
#

Infinite had no PR

#

Lmao

#

Will never forget the way he flops dead in the final boss fight

dawn pumice
smoky summit
#

That was the amalgamation of the whimper that was him and the game

dawn pumice
#

So technically

#

It’s right?

prime hearth
#

do not give "insiders" an inch of being right they will take a mile

#

"ohhh they're slightly a bit right-" no, do not give them the satisfaction

dawn pumice
#

I only give Nate credit cuz he’s Nintendo stuff is mostly right

prime hearth
#

either they have the next sonic game plot printed on their 'sack at birth or they have nowt

dawn pumice
#

Anyone else

prime hearth
#

no inbetween

dawn pumice
#

😭

last idol
#

I dont pay much attention to them these days but

#

I do think the chances of the next game just dead ass being “frontiers 2” in name and everything has gone up exponentially

#

Like a teaser on next years game releasing at some point this year and frontiers definitive edition launching around the same time

stiff salmon
#

maybe just like a recap situation for those who never knew the updates existed right

prime hearth
#

I think if they're willing to put out frontiers again only a few years later they see the value in the name, yeah

stiff salmon
#

yep

last idol
#

Yeah exactly

#

Like prior to this I was pretty certain it wouldn’t be given their aversion to sequels

dawn pumice
#

Still don’t think it’s straight up frontiers 2

#

I’m guessing it’s something in a similar vain like Sonic Horizons or Sonic Badlands

smoky summit
#

If it ain't random 4chan leaks

#

It's probably got 0.001% beint real

#

4chan meanwhile

#

Has a 0.5% chance

#

1 every 200 leaks

wide portal
#

lowkey should somebody like do a backlog and see if anybody’s mentioned a frontiers definitive edition on there before March 24th 😭

rugged otter
#

too lazy, but will random leaks talking about the totally real and happening Unleashed remaster suffice

safe hull
#

Waiting for the Spinball remake

silent haven
#

got sonic being at the direct wrong

#

got robobot switch port wrong

#

he’s a BUM

wide portal
#

He specified that those were guesses when he said them didn’t he 😭

strange estuary
# cunning echo

Now this does give me suspicion Shadow could actually make it into this Definitive Edition

#

All roads lead to Shadow...

cunning echo
#

The shitting leak mentioned shadow being playable

#

But he never appeared

#

Now we get this edition

#

All the roads lead to the shitting leak once again...

deep spire
#

The what leak

strange estuary
#

Where's the image for that again?

deep spire
#

I am so so far out of the loop what is the shitting leak

modest parcel
#

A Sonic Frontiers rumor iirc

#

Listed Shadow showing up as a character in the game before the game came out