#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation
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Both Tangle and Whisper essentially already have the gameplay inspired they can easily implement in a sonic game
One is more very simple, while the other is I guess is as complex as Silver's?
Sorry Silver is the only example I can think of when it comes to sonic chars lmao
man i want them in the gaaaaaames
they are legit, so good to have around
a 2d game with tangle and or whisper playable, insane thoughts
Oooooo Jet would be fun since he would have his Gear and Bashōsen fans
Hold on idw 2D game might sell bajilions
IT WOULD
that's fair, Avatar being limited to one wisp made you commit to it and Whisper basically being a mix of Avatar and just Colors Sonic not being the same and all
personally it would be neat to explore a "better" Avatar for me
but they are going for washed blue toy land classic sonic
Ok it wouldn’t that sell that well just cause of IDW. It’s a relatively niche part of Sonic
Yeah, I'm not sure about it being bajilions
Nah I’ve seen it’s movement in cartoon spaces
I’m talking digital circus type movement
all this thinking makes me realize just how much sonic and his friends hold
potential
I wouldn't say it will sold massive, but at least it will gain enough attention over the fandom
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A game will def be a strong push for em
even non game characters having something that could probably be modified into a framework
its just how whisper would play
It's going to be a given 3D Sonic game will be sold the most, but an IDW inspired game will gain a lot of attention
This is a very huge claim to be making
late to this but it’s from one of the prototypes iirc
oh ic
they prolly just grabbed the wrong rom lol
also been playing ristar a bit recently and it gooooooood
IDW inspired is so funny because IDW is supposed to be the same thing as the mainline shit
fully recommend getting a pad with a sega-style floating d-pad it changes eeeeeeverything
At least the ones that are exclusive to IDW
Not really
(also vectorman fucking SUCKS)
it kinda loses me a bit with the water level and that one with the metronome but I'm due for a replay by now
Sure then
wish vectorman wasn't so frustrating yeah
Can you think of at least 7 IDW locations?
I am the last person you want me to remember anything LMAO
it's a looker but killing an ant there will take an arsenal
Ah of course how could I forget
some of the music is pretty nice too, which makes this even worse
It's the only one I do remember yeah
Spyro Hill
My mistake
christ it’s such a looker!! this alone is prolly one of my fave megadrive screens ever
but yea then you’re immediately booted into bullet sponge zone
the intro really feels like a 16bit comic, fuck
That map is so crunchy, it’s literally illegible
well yeah, it was meant for ants
Ah so that’s how 5ft people see maps
All the ones mentioned in this map that are new, plus the ones that came after that like the canyon with Soleil/Lunar in the stage is set, Glass Hill, Turtleshell Island
Something about Angel Island being at the bottom is silly and wholesome over Cream
A bunch of towns would be nice hubs but I’m not wholly sure you could make fully fledged levels that feel unique from em
Glass Hill would be interesting and we barely know Sequin as a town
And that is a game to expand upon them
I mean, Speed Sim did that with a zone of seasons of chaos
and that one was just a few pages
Well those panels already gave everything you would want to know about that stage
Autumn Forest Zone
The other IDW locals, for the most part, have more display
like the entirety of issues 3 and 23 are dedicated to barricade town
(plus you can use attack on titan for imagery or elementsfor that one)
It’s a regular town with a wall covering it all, Barricade Town can only be interesting enoughish as a hub. There’s nothing wholly unique about the town itself, just the aforementioned barricade
Oh classic IDW especially has a LOT of level inspired they can do
I’d love a level in that one mossy region Sonic and tails travelled thru
I mean, we got a game that took towns and cities of real life and made them levels
Also the Eggman City would be cool
I think they can work on these towns and make them fully fleshed out into levels
Lots of cool eggman locations in idw
Ah Eggperial City would be dope, too bad it blew up
But even then you can make so many more
And interconnect them with the established towns
yeah, idw establishes that eggman has many bases
some left behind by the doctor
so it is easy to excuse that he made another one of similar looks
Spiral hill might as well be the comics station square by this point
Just from how much of a touchstone it is for everyone now
It used to be Restoration HQ until…
Karakura town is to Spiral Hill as Restoration HQ is to Soul Society

It’s Tangle and Jewel’s home town. We’ve been there like what four or five times? When we first met Tangle, been there when Whisper visited, revisited during MV and then for the post MV party?
Wouldn’t seaside city make a bit more sense?
Don’t think we’ve seen it since
It’s used in the audio drama as well
It was also in the Halloween special of IDW
Was it?
Made #1471288482050867367 for tomorrow
I said Seaside City. The office is in that city
We’re talking Spiral Hill tho?
That’s it, off to the guillotine with you
No wonder Vector broke af
whatever the fuck this place was
Do we even have a name for it?
Sonic cup mention
Again
rainbow ravine apparently
Aaah that sounds familiar
using the desert stripes to make the official pride flag of issues with wasted potential 🔥🔥
Rainbow Ravine
Oh yeah wasn't it the same place Sonic, Blaze, and Cream went too?
During that anniversary comic
Why not @ me another time to really hammer it in why don’t ya
yeah. Though I think the name was given in #78.
@forest fractal Rainbow Revine
/jk
It’s pretty cool that idw does like the games and avoids nondescript locations most of the time
Lots of genuinely cool looking or notable locations mentioned and used thru the adventures
They could have just gone the nostalgia bait route, so the effort is pretty cool to see
Honestly shows the capability of this series over the fans
Where they tend to be very creative by making their own levels/areas
next time: shit from a butt
for the last time!
The lack of momentum in their jumps😭
Why are there so many posts here considering there's literally nothing new
😭
we like talking to each other
Without the time stones?
we do it the way intended, with no robot generators
It took until 2023 for Green Hill to show up in a main series issue which is insane restraint
That's a long time
At most it’s Crossworlds DLC
yeah
I feel like they want the next 3D Sonic game being shown in a far bigger event
I kinda do think it’ll be the Nick DLC this time and one free character
I really think that mainline is being saved for a sonic central man.
A first teaser at least.
why would they do that again 😭
It just makes the most sense to me on them wanting to show it on their ground/platform, in the 35th anniversary year more so.
But ofc, there'd have to be accompanying news of other things for there to be a central
then it makes more sense for something in the vein of the 25th anniversary party rather than a central
have u seen a sonic central lately
Which, I don't know how much they got in store but apparently they have a long-form plan so maybe.
centrals have always been small scale and don’t get nearly as much attention as sonic showing up at other bigger events
those things are full of tat and shite it is not built for an actual good game reveal lol
I'm just talking a TEASER
"mmmm yes do we announce frontiers 2 before or after the legoland promo" like come on
the racing spin off was teased at tga
Like Frontiers
We don't need to drop a 30 second cg teaser at some big event
I don't believe they'd show off the first teaser at a Sonic Central
they did it before
*again
Cause fuck that crossworlds game awards teaser
Could've been an email
besides isn’t the assumption that the frontiers teaser was only part of the central instead of something like sxsw because of the pandemic
If not a central than idfk summer games fest, I refuse to believe a state of play is the place or game awards.
it could be either of the latter but not a central i’d say
ehhhh idk, I think the SXSW panels were on their way out by that point anyways
again, that’s less eyes
If I'm wrong, then I'm forsaking EVERYBODY
you get your big sonic games at centrals after they’re revealed
like the shitty squid trailer
and the shadow gens story trailer
only way I could see them doing a central is if they did a "special" central that was literally just for the reveal and nothing else
like, literally building it up beforehand as "this is where we are revealing in full the next game"
I think they’ll do a 35th central but be prepared for it to be 80% brand collabs and merch
but thats actual smart thinking and they need to sell more touys so
I doubt they'll do a Sonic Central just to tease it
SGF is a far better choice because it brings much bigger attention
jakks showing off some dogshit playset instead of the actual 10cm figures fans are actually after 🔥🔥
I don't think "at most Crossworlds" makes sense
I feel like it's at least Crossworlds
I would be very surprised if no crossworlds
are you guys ready for akira billy hatcher travel pass
at the very least I'm expecting the next lot of free characters since after tangle/whisper we're in the dark
Yeah I don't think it'll be just Crossworld
I can see other SEGA info while Sonic 3D will be in SGF
all sixteen billy hatcher fans goin wild tonight chat!!
Nah I'll be all hype over Alis lmao
does billy hatcher even have a cult following like nights
Maybe to a smaller degree
Billy Hatcher is just..... there
That's about it
Even if you go by Sonic Team standards
my guesses for free characters are beat jsr, someone from streets of rage and lego sonic for that sweet sweet brand moolah
they always go big on the lego advertising even though they release barely any sets each wave lol
I dread to think how much of the theme is marketing budget, how are you roping in so many people for two sets every 6-8 months
Classic Sonic is a given but I don't think he'll be shown until 35th anniversary showcase or whatnot
directly on the anniversary
Altho it's going to be focused over superstar considering the stage
oh june 23rd falls on a sunday so it'd be directly in the line of fire for a festival too, sorted
easiest bet in the world
I feel like it would be the same thing for NiGHTS if they didn't constantly give it attention
SGF
Honesty yeah
they need to show TMNT btw
they've doing a update once tmnt is revealed trust
Avatar is next yeah
He’s gonna be the last big character reveal in the trailer tomorrow #trust
Especially since they changed plans to release it on P+ I’m sure Paramount wants as many eyes on ATLA as possible
I'm glad mega man is next so I can immediately stop caring about the pass afterwards
the same way the last free dlc showcase ended with sonic characters, this next free dlc showcase will end with a sonic character
Na like fr
Who give af about avatar and Mutant Mayhem TMNT
I still think it’s cool to see the animations for characters I don’t care about
that’s how it was with ichiban tbh
the track for TMNT could be fun but I am fully checked out when it comes to avatar lol
gentrified anime ass
is avatar good or not
Na like I fw anime
People say it’s good
I personally don’t like it at all
ofc the sonic server is the first time im encountering people who slander avatar
im half joking, but im at the very least interested in seeing the style
It's a really good series
though watching it in Latin Spanish dub is kind of weird
since most of the Sonic X (Dub) cast is there
I’m just salty on avatar in crossworlds cuz
A) paramount don’t need that many slots
B) outta all the franchises they chose that 😭
so prepare to have the journey protagonized by Chris
with Sonic and Chuck trying to kill him

TMNT is a really cool series, although idk about Mutant Mayhem. I've stopped following the franchise for years now
I like mutant mayhem
MutantMayhem is a really interesting take on the turtles
Should have not been the one to represent TMNT tho
IMO
Also if avatar is getting 3, SpongeBob should’ve at least gotten Squidward

I do. I care about Avatar
I'm sure it'll still be good
THEY'VE DOING NYC THEY GOTTA DO IT JUSTICE FOOL
Oh for sure
THAT'S MY HOME
That TMNT track looks fun af
It’s kinda obvious who they’re going with if it’s 3
you haven’t even seen it yet expect for concept art stills 😭
By concept art it looks fire

I find it crazy how the worst collab we got so far is SpongeBob, but even then it's fine for the most part
I think we saw a mega rough version of the avatar one though
Ya we did
Honestly
I…kinda don’t fw it???
These whole “element bending” gates just seem like set pieces than anything else
I mean I don’t know how the track design or bending gimmick will complement each other yet
Ya
There’s your 3
Rep for each avatar we followed
Real question is what sfx are they gonna use for Avatar and TMNT
Bending noises and sewer noises
How do you do sewer noises
Wouldn’t that just be water then
Maybe instead do like weapon sfx for each turtle?
Then a different element for Avatar (ex: Aang has wind, Korra has water, Pavi has Earth)
bald ichiban.........................
That’s his adult design idk what to tell ya
ewww
Why not have the sewer lid noise. Like when it opens and closes
sega has FORGOTTEN about ichibans hair
This is official
mmmmm I dunno about that in practice
steel pipe sfx
I think its just gonna be generic weapon shing sounds
nothing too flashy but enough to get the job done
no cos they only have english VAs thus far
they'd have to dub em in every language and I think thats where the kicker lies
Maybe in the future
I think by the next time we see em in a game they'll get the full voice treatment, yeah
I suppose the case files is good enough for the time being
we know they don't 😭 😭 😭
Actually wait, this makes me curious if Miku changes at all with other languages
Does she?
no
hi jeremy
Lowkey I’m in the mood to deceive sonic fans I hope he doesn’t show up tomorrow so I can cook
if he doesn’t show up tomorrow there will be no more sonic fans to deceive
If he doesn’t show up tomorrow Fadel will destroy his balls again
The fact you said this confirms he will show up
You just jinxed it big time
nuh uh
Fr, #NoSonic@SoP
Genuinely though have any scoopers hinted at any kind of sonic appearance at this point
I think we at least had heads up for shadow gens’ appearance but not Crossworlds
Doesn't seem like it
I'm expecting Sonic but not something big
But it wouldn't be impossible if they did decide to show something big
if he ends up showing up, we raid you
I think I already bet all our souls on him popping up anyway so if he appears you should really be thanking me
Honestly at this point I don't think the blue rat is showing up
Unless something leaks out a couple hours before SoP
tbf aside from that fake leak of DMC6 showing up there in egneral was no leaks about this SoP
It kinda sucks that people latched onto Sonic Eclipse
Sonic Eclipse sounds like a 2D Classic Sonic Mania clone fangame
How 😭
It just gives those vibes off like
It doesn't sound like an official Modern Sonic game lmao
Like I can see a Classic fangame called Sonic Eclipse with the Eclipse Star as like the Chaos Emerald collectable or some shit lmao
i dont see what you mean
when i think eclipse i think light and dark, which is basically sa2s whole thing
🤔
Keeping my expectations low
The worst booking imaginable for your favorite character
Tbf I don't really fuck with a lot of fan game names
There are a few that stand out tho
Silence on the dance floor huh
5 hours left
About the movies, I hear rumors regularly. Some have checked out in the past, but I stay skeptical and don’t treat most as solid, so I likely won’t post about that
just 3 hours..
okay who actually is this guy 😭
and what makes u say that? @past matrix 🤨
I’ve seen their posts @hybrid hill
If I remember
They legit used to post concept art for movies not even out
Most of their stuff too has been right if I recall
I’ve seen them a few times, but the most prominent I’ve seen him was him talking about a Crash Bandicoot movie
Don’t know his marvel track record
But I’ve read some of the stuff and it’s pretty solid somewhat
He got most if not the biggest plot points of the Mario movie right
It's not like they're claiming anything with the posts being posted here, it's weird
If you make your own graphic to talk about your "verified scoops", I don't think you can be taken very seriously
😭
Gives off 15 year old energy leeching info out of what ever private servers they snuck into
Hm
2 hours...
More or less what Fiery said, and I’ve followed them around enough to where they’re far more reliable (and upfront) than most.
In regards to Tobe’s comment, I’d take keeping a track record of the date of things that they’ve gotten specific information about in lead up to official word or showcase of said projects.
compared to a 100th fucking 4chan ‘leak’, and paywalled, fairly obvious assuming, daniel.
and again, it helps (in my opinion) that prior to this they haven’t been knee deep in sonic stuff/have an history of catering to sonic fans like Daniel & a few others.
Regardless though, I get if it seems a bit random though.
I leak knuckles chaotix remaster
I also agree with this too
They've posted things about as ridiculous as what Daniel posts (Smash Bros movie, Metroid movie) so it's not like they don't have a tendency to post fakes
With Daniel he just piggybacks and paywalls that shit
Those are considered insane?
If I recall scooper doesn’t post stuff unless he knows something about it?
Those are not insane imo
I definitely see them planning a smash movie, but that’s literal years away
There’s def talks about it
it literally cannot be avoided I think.
I don't think those are insane, but I think it's important to be mindful
ofc, always.
I think smash bros movie is both insane and not insane
insane in actually getting it done but not in planning to do one
Especially if it’s just the core Nintendo
These people probably get "scoops" from the same sources
Now if one them came out and said some shit like “sonic 4 is gonna end with a tease to a smash bros movie” then you’ve lost me.
Fiery we don't even have the second mario movie yet, and Zelda is live action
It's on par with Daniel rumors
None of Daniel's rumors are insane
Daniel’s rumors are just the sky is blue bs
They're just fake af and pretty blatant about it
The problem with a lot of "leakers" is that if they are not 100% reliable, they are simply unreliable and you can never take for granted what they say
Silver is in the 5th movie
Especially when making broad claims
Wow such a shocker
They can garner freebie credibility
Look all I’m saying is I’m not immediately dismissing them like Daniel cuz a smash bros movie was briefly talked upon
I’m not fully believing them either, but it’s at least more trustworthy than Daniel or ur everyday 4chan leak
We haven't even heard any meaningful information from them lol, this is just in reference to them being posted
No matter of belief when it's just waffling
man, I don’t fucking know, I’m just waiting
Guess we gotta see when he says that sonic shit next week 💀
if it’s wrong, it’s wrong, damn
if it’s right, it’s lit.
I’ve gotta prep for this state of play to not see Jak & Daxter.
But also, like, what V the Scooper is saying in regards sonc isn't...new or anything fully noteworthy
Technically Daniel gets better plausible deniability since v scooper actually attempts to weigh in on the rumors they post, like the moment the Crash Bandicoot animated show rumors were floating about
Like yeah, they'll be releasing stuff in correlation with the movies whenever they can and vice versa
They're cut from the same cloth, stating things that are "obvious" to some people hoping for them, but largely are just attempting to cover as wide a range of topics as they can to try and find some that stick
The mario leak from 2022 for v scooper does look legit, but they immediately followed it up with inaccurate details in 2023
I chalk that up to them having that one legit leak, then bullshitting the rest of the way
Actually, a Metroid movie was planned alongside Mario
But it never got to anything
Haha, one (hour)
57 minutes...
Why are you guys posting this in "Sonic leaks" 
leaks, rumours and speculation*
your mother
sonic is not confirmed for the state of play, we are speculating on the possibility of it occurring
ergo we can countdown to said possibility
55 mins
ergo ur waffling
like that
eh, I prefer pancakes
Me, personally, I don't do breakfast
Is it truly waffling if you believe in the cause and hope for the best?
Too much sugar too early in the day
You can literally not add sugar
Best to save that for midday when the energy is needed

Sugar ain't making them moist
Sausage and eggs

With some toast on the side
Anytime I actually eat pancakes or waffles I feel awful for the rest of the day
But at night time
Oh man do they hit
Ergo? Ergo like the fan name for the original Orbot from Sonic Unleashed? You’re saying Sonic Unleashed will be at the State of Play?
You know, I say this but I've only ever eaten pancakes or waffles at hotel breakfasts 😭
30 minutes...
Luckily for us, the defacto method of making waffles is now available for just 29.99 on select online retailers!!!
hey, buddy, you said it, not me
@modest parcel lock the channel the leaks can wait
Way ahead of you
(was going to wait until it started but hey
)
Wait
@stiff salmon what if we get a leak within the next 22 mins....
Patience is a virtue... but so is persistance...
There's no way a leak will happen in like 17 minutes
10...minutes...
😭
I've been had!!
I'll be moving to the State of Play thread now
guys I have something important to say but I can’t say it for another two minutes
OKAY THREAD FOLKS
I'll win this time
1 minute...
AND REMEMBER!
GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT! 
Ok the chat is open again someone drown out that gif
NO LOCK THE CHANNEL
NO YOU CANNOT HALT THE MARCH OF TIME
😭
Almost there...
next person to post a 4chan screenshot gets 10 copies of frontiers shoved up their ass
what else could there be
uhhh I forgot
spectre23 has been warned.
SORRY
😭
😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
tbh is not that bad
now you know my pain
LMFAOOOO
fuck now I gotta go through with it now
SEGA when CrossWorlds underperforms, has to go on sale three times within two quarters, and doesn't receive massive hype for its crossovers ala Smash Bros
"I don't want to pay for you anymore...."
who getting hype for avatar and turtles
Ok but maybe
the fiscal results are tomorrow we are so #COOKED
Just maybe
like fr
😭😭😭
😭
they are not making games anymore
Sega DELAYED their fiscal results because CrossWorlds is ALMOST at 2 MILLION ⁉️
sega worse decision with crossworld was adding non game characters
spongebob is funny tho
but like
tbf even if crossworlds not hit 2M its not gonna change todays report
SpongeBob is the only non-game dlc that’s dropped so far right
yea
they say they want game hit 2m till end of FY
I think it’s too early to say if it’s paid off or not
todays report gonan be about end of december
Shhhh the bit,.... we do it for the bit..,,,
learn to sit back and observe
What do you mean
I'll tell you what happened
NEW CASTLEVANIA BY THE DEAD CELLS TEAM BABYYYYYY
I GOT RAYMAN
the most boring rayman ever but sure it was rayman
@SilverScientis7 It's the second time they gave a reaction after a major event people expected them in. So there is a pattern, but we don't know where it's going
@modest parcel
ALWAYS
BET
ON
Yes
How do we know it’s June
FEBRUARY
They are watching
Spring Central
FEB
And they'll keep watching
I’m actually lowkey fucked now if they do a central in February actually 😁 soooo
Nah
Not even entertaining that thought
I believe
I mean
In
no but seriously
It’s not impossible lmfao
February
what if is just crossworld year
but with Iizuka’s statements regarding planning ahead and stuff I highly doubt they don’t have anything in terms of a potential new game
Feb central to announce events
35th anniversary 😭 😭 😭 😭
yeah
see you in juuuuune
you get your crossworld and speed sim content!
I still believe game is releasing this year tho
a game, yes
konami when they learned they can be good and make money
that was just a konami direct
they were the stars of the show
straight up
Would I be crazy if I said I can see that not happening
Nope

There’ll be another opportunity
I mean, I've been saying this for a while that there's a chance of that, so...
They said they want to push sales so I kind of expect something more from the updates, without thinking too much, but I also doubt that's it, it is the anniversary, I guess something will be revealed later this year and will release eventually
I also doubt Fadel is trolling us, and knows when news will be announced, he is involved by SEGA with Sonic and fan hype, but unless the event is really soon, I don't believe he knows when
What, has he implied he knows something
No and I feel like people are conflating a bit too much on what they know and what they don't know
Yeah I'm feeling about the same
i
Typically they're in the know when it's like..RIGHT around the corner, or they'll say they got some special email or something if SEGA is generous in their partnership with them.
Not months out in advance
Idc man 😭 like legit
This anniversary goes for still a year and 5 month btw
That's what I'm saying
they are gonna have a thing POSSIBLY in june, can we not just be on february and say that we are not gonna get Nothing lol
You'd think we're like..9 fucking months into the year with the way people are talking about this 'fumble"
in the meantime, I will enjoy the narrative podcast and Crossoworld DLC, despite not having played the latter in weeks
4 weeks ago we JUST got an video kickstarting the 35th anniversary campaign.
I think people are a teensy bit too eager because it seems like we've been that 35th logo for quite a while now, but it's only been a month or two since they've made a proper announcement
People really are acting like SEGA killed Sonic 2 months into his anniversary
It's not even his anniversary yet 😭
Cause the shit is self inflicted each time
Always
Ain't nobody official say or hint that sonic was at the game awards
Like bro wtf is sega informant on about bro nobody asked 😭
Ain't nobody official hint at sonic being at the state of play
"Boycott sega" mf who are you?
I buy whatever i want weither it's sega
Or not
Dw about me i got deltarune to keep me alive in 2026
Been watching that shit for the past 2 days man i have stuff to keep me entertained
Dissapointment I get, more so for SEGA for announcing all those projects and if you're more of a SEGA fan than solely a sonic fan, being pissed that you aren't seeing ONE of the multiple games they said they had in development is something I understand.
But Sonic has been CRUISING for the most part, and I don't think that's coming to an halt on his anniversary year.
i don't think they can wait for june atp
I mean sure it's been a while and yeah they could show some stuff (.) But idk, if they don"t think it's worth showing then it's their problem. As long as a game isn't announced to be cancelled then what the fuck ever
sega stock went down as soon as SOP ended last night lol
Can stocks typically change an marketing or campaign roadmap/plan if they aren't as expected.
prolly idk
they can wait till june
Actually they can wait till ~april, when their yearly report is gonna be out
oh and yeah i watched the investors call and they skipped over that release window thing for this year so fucking quick 😭😭
And they somehow get offended by the fact one of the account managers decided to type "lmao" in Fadel's chat
april-may is that sweet spot
but also they can wait till june
Like, they said they're releasing 4 major games in mainline IPs next fiscal year, which is between April this year and March 2027
or at least planning to release
Yeah like Nova said, that was kinda corny
i'm not expecting anything that way i won't be dissapointed
and then that financial report
i got tangle and whisper i'm happy
fucking yikes..
"They're being tone deaf" like mister and misses SEGA themselves made that twitch comment.
Patience is a virtue
Obviously, it was meant to be.
But I'm pretty sure that's what triggered some of the aggressive responses regarding boycotting and that stuff
And if not patience, a trademarked name suddenly popping up someday will be enough information.
No, I'm saying sega informant was being corny
Oh, I see
Sonic x Shadow Gens, Sonic Crossworlds..did superstars name get out there before the reveal?
Sonic Rangers, obviously
Yeah the way he behaves on that account made me started to immediately mute
I think we barely had info on Superstars before it was revealed
If any, I don't remember anything about it
there was no info aside zippo saying there was a 2d game
So in other words, no info at all
re:this - there's always a chance that some of those mainline IPs are european, so Football Manager and Total War would count, so uhhhh
So I guess we can count Total Wars and with P4R and possible Sonic game, that leaves 1 left?
No, what I mean is there's a lot more variables than people think
Cuz there's Persona, there's Yakuza, Sonic, Total War, Football Manager
They could also count Stranger than Heaven if they want to be funny
Maybe Virtua Fighter too
I guess could count Virtua Fighter, but probably have nothing to do with Yakuza involvement if they wanted to push it as a major IP
It'd be hilarious if Frontiers 2 did get announced in Feburary
they release new football manager last quarter
one of the games is gonan be total war
dont know about the rest tho
Sega kind of shot themselves in the foot doing something this risky
one of them is def gonna be sonic spin off
They've been working on these giga mega games for years and years
but atp i dont know when expect it
again ive expect announcement at SoP because for the last 2 years they plan was always 9-10 month marketing window
Hell I'd argue like, the big TGA Game Awards reveal barely even got massive buzz or traction
and i wasnt thought about june because last time they had 4 months window marketing it was superatrs and it launch sales was weak
It just showed very early, jank looking builds of their revival games, no one really cared other than Sega buffs because the general gaming public probably doesn't care about Golden Axe anymore
but i guess they changing something?
And then everything sort of fizzled out with all the projected games getting delayed
Sega might be fucked if the triple A Crazy Taxi battle royal game either burns or releases and no one cares to play it
it’s a shame to, really liked the energy in that trailer
hyenas got cancelled almost 3 years ago atp they recovered from it
Listen I'm just a bit worried
sega of europe makes money rn its rovio who suffers
This might just come from someone who doesn't really give a shit for Sega's non Sonic ips
It's just hard what to even expect SEGA at this point. Sonic is at least a given to be in June but at the same time there may be chance it won't be Frontiers 2
nah i understand
Like yes Sega I will be hyped for your Unreal Engine 5 looking ahh game revivals and Shinobi!
While with them skipping conference 3 times, we couldn't even tell what other SEGA games may happened and it's just becoming even more frustrating
With no updates on the progress for most of those games after 3 years
No one would want to invest in all that ngl
tbf thats why before releasing big new revival you need release something small
that basically what they doing with virtua fighter rn
^^
they release revo edition of VF5 and now porting it on switch 2
all that to remind people of series before new game
and correct me if im wrong but they're adding alot of QOL to VF5 right
yea
netcode and all that stuff
thats why i thought we gonna get JSR collection or something like that thsi year
shinobi is like almost $17 dollars on the steam store i honestly implore you to explore sega's inventory outside of sonic
we didnt
hell thats why i got introduced to the persona series 😭
^
tbf shinobi is jsut sucks because i could say its not even segas fault
they market thsi game pretty decent overall and its really good but 2 days before release they got hit with silksong release date announcement
they cant even delay the game
Yeah it was instantly shadowdropped and that heavily screwed over SEGA
It just flatout unfair honestly
ngl you all sound kind of insane when you go "a new entry in Shinobi, a legacy SEGA franchise, got fucked by Sliksong shadowdropping"
I know this sounds like a very "I only play Sonic games" ass take but I hate that the only indie platformer shit that is accepted by most general gamers are like hard dash obstacle coursed + with metrovania influence ahh indie games
in the words of declan
Kind of learnt a lot of people hate acceleration based platformers
actually why is this convo in here 😭
And you can see with how Hollow Knight or Celeste is popular and Freedom Planet, whilst still being successful, doesn't really break through anywhere other than that niche
tbf i do think it hurt shinobi legs
not for nothing but learning that people dont like acceleration based platformers NOW its crazy
that feels like it should have been something known, for a while
I mean, for one, Hollow Knight is a metroidvania
But also yeah, it's kind of easier for people to get into a game where the general control is more set in stone because it's easier to gauge where and how you fucked up
shinobi is just this type of game that got saved by legs and WOM but looking at steam its online barely changes
I don't know if using steamcharts for a single-player game is worth it after a week
but 100K+ copies on PC is not bad all things considered i guess
single player games are def not gonna beat their peak but you can see how online increases after sale
I feel like it didn't help are the long term sales is that after Shinobi came out, it barely move anything
It may be a worse affect of whenever Crazy Taxi nor JSR comes out despite huge amount of budget
btw now that i checking crossworlds on steam
even tho we didnt have any festivals in january game still has higher average player count than in december
There was only the Pac-Man Festival, while on Christmas we had the NiGHTS one, we had 1 festival these months
also because we got the elite online event
I also can see that people are anxious to see the next game, but if SEGA skipped TGA and State of Play (which revealed SXSG and gameplay of CW) it means whatever they want to show is not ready
Superstars was announced in June on SGF without hints before and released on October, so... anything is possible, whatever they have will be shown later and will release when it's ready (hopefully)
so you think they might have a trick up their sleeve with crossworlds?
i mean ken did say they have "surprises"
Who said anything about a 4 months marketing window
(though if it is a smaller title reveal then I could see it releasing this year)
hoping it takes the february slot
yeah
travel pass will buy them time
about what exactly
The tweet Nate was replying to.
@NateTheHate2 Do you think the next Sonic is coming out this year? If Sega were targeting 2026, they probably would’ve announced it at the Direct or the SOP.

Like it’s pretty fucking obvious
Not knowing anything about anything, shit getting announced too early, Sega delisting shit left and right for no fucking reason and the energy around these franchises coming back acting like they just can't exist
Whatever
didn’t fall for it last time not falling for it this time either
Ngl this was a bit obvious
All three games are, from the studio’s perspective, meant to be major leaps beyond their previous entries, with groundbreaking innovation & aiming to compete with the biggest releases of their time. Haven’t heard much yet but I’m figuring out how to share the crumbs I have
Quoting V SCOOPER (@thevscooper)
︀
Choose one game you are most excited for
we’re reaching levels of no fuckin shit sherlock never seen before
what did you think they were gonna say?? “oh we’re planning to make this one suck actually, worst in class”
this isn’t even a scoop, this is a slightly damp fork claimed to have been run through a bowl of soup
absolute state of it
this barely even serves as a scoop but I’ll play devil’s advocate on one part
there is a solid enough chance that the next game could be frontiers but slightly more polished rather than a major leap 
yea
and thats great
I think people are thinking it would be the next holy grail for sonic when it comes to innovation but I think it'll be just like how adventure 2 improves on things adventure had
I cannot blame it tho, especially because of the sudden connection of developer and community with the feedback thing
no shit sherlock 😭😭
the next Sonic game will be bigger and better
i just realized this said 3 games 😭
we are getting lost world 2
sonic and knuckles forces (they replaced classic sonic)
(hits u with my long sand dih 🥀 )
yo Jarvis make this faster please
oh
now Sonic has all the reaction time he needs to dodge the sandwich
checkmate Mario fans 🤭
remaster lost world but only the 3ds version
the lost world influence in frontiers 2 is gonna be peak
and remove the motion controls in the special stages
people aint readay
just realized this gif was censored for tails channel 😭😭😭
oh wait mb
ew
there we go
Sonic not even being sandwich tier
nippan?
Nuh uh 
he goin backwards, is he stupid
I wouldn’t have known all that even with kids going crazy and killing each other and themselves
guys asuka langley is on my crossworld team
they killing u first 🫢
screenshot or I’m calling nerv
and make some of the late game enemies less tanky
then we have peak gaming
God I hope so, I hope I get murdered Chinese censored style
was this about leaks
my goat rei would be on top 😼
stop mini modding knux I own 67% of this server
how much
leaking cheese all over my lunch
is it drippy bruh
“The next sonic game is supposed to be a major leap”
😳 😳 😳
Wooooooooah
It’s like I never knew that
need all my teammates to die why am I carrying in every match
dude are all insiders made from the same lab
give me my 30 points so I can quit
How they coming out the woodwork 💀
Fr should be my own leaker at this point
Charge everyone 5 bucks and just vague post so hard that my answers will never be wrong but still never be fully right
guys i think
sonic's next big game will prominently feature rings
and maybe even... well, i don't wanna commit to stating anything too specific but if all signs are pointing the right way and going by sega's patterns
we might see Tails show up..
alright V, don’t make me look like a fucking fool; whatever crumbs you got, be specific when it’s time
Cause I’m in a server of (affectionate) smart asses that I can’t stomach to lose to.
He boutta say like
“The next sonic game is getting rid of boost”

I’m at the point if they want something to say and they have evidence enough to prove it, either keep it to themselves or just fully say it
Beating around the bush is the stupidest thing
we should atp just start making wild bets on what the main gimmick of the next game is
it'd be more entertaining

my 100% legitimate sonic leak #donotsteal #mysourcesindicate
All three games are, from the studio’s perspective, meant to be major leaps beyond their previous entries, with groundbreaking innovation & aiming to compete with the biggest releases of their time. Haven’t heard much yet but I’m figuring out how to share the crumbs I have
QRT: thevscooper
Choose one game you are most excited for
did people post thsi already
Again, V don't make a fool out of me.
"These 3 games will be good" - V Scoopity Scooter, 2027
At most I think it can't be any worse than what Daniel did
That mf said "frontiers 2 is in development".
Honestly this ain't much different lmao
Key difference being nobody gotta pay to see the shit
That's where I get twisted
Honestly I'm just looking for anything OTHER than 4chan.
Fuck 4chan.
Yeah, I guess that's true
If anything, no leaker is reliable
From the looks of it, V or Nate the hate for example seem to know just as much as we do
Just pure vague info
Is gonna be like previous game but better!
That's pretty much it 😭
Is not like others wannabe leakers that were around before game awards just acting up like they knew a lot
Either Sega or Sonic team is getting really good handling this stuff or people just don't wanna share info
Na I believe they genuinely saw shit
But they just wanna be vague
V more or less hasn’t seen shit
But I do believe there’s images and gameplay floating around behind the scenes
the rp k vibes go crazy
I don’t think investors stuff
If I recall don’t they have to be somewhat public with those
I’d get if it’s like private meetings with others tho
Most investor stuff is private
they got frontiers 2 in the great seal im crying 😭
we should call the chaotix, I’m sure they probably know where the leaks are
We should call shadow so he can steal the fandom again
Still crumbs & rumors, but they say a lot, take it with a pinch of salt
Not a remake or direct sequel. Live service status still unclear
The focus seems to be longevity to support future movies and series. Major in importance, the budget scale is unclear
That’s all for now
oh wtf
“A larger playable ensemble. Stronger story focus.”
so basically no mainline this year
“Target window for 2027” yeah
this is likely gonna take the february yakuza slot if VF6 isnt ready
announcement at SGF and then release in feb
YOU MADE A FUCKING FOOL OUT OF ME V
“The focus seems to be longevity to support future movies and series.” Yeah they’re getting long term dlc like frontiers
"Closer ties to the upcoming movies and series."
and they don't elaborate in any way
smells fake-y
yeah so update 1 2 and 3
will say this guy is reliable with galaxy and all that snazz
release date is likely real though
cute image btw
and thank god i dont want them to rush this
love when leaks are deliberately vague so they can claim anything vaguely close to its true 🔥 🔥 🔥
yeah, that's where I'm at
me when I say the next game has sonic in and it does indeed have sonic in (my track record is confirmed as trustworthy legitimate chungus)
"closer ties to upcoming movies and series" on that first post
i know, WHAT UPCOMING SERIES
holy stretching based on nothing







