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#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation
ember junco
safe hull
What is ol reliable
safe hull
Okay that works
scarlet ether
Free money generator
only if you're founders btw
prime hearth
I have ol reliable
ol reliable play actual videogames instead of live service slop‼️‼️🗣️🗣️
safe hull
There was a bajillion opportunities to become a founder with a million discounts and shit
scarlet ether
still tho, considering how Epic are gonna do a fuck ton of Fort collabs via buying shit on their Store front, PC or Mobile, you all know damn well they're putting Sonic on there somehow
especially if it's something like "pre-order Sonic [insert subtitle here] and recieve the Sonic bundle/outfit in Fortnite"
cuz reminder, Crash is also rumored to be coming into the game
safe hull
Not-fun fact for all you sonic fans interested in fortnite all of a sudden, Epic Games ceo Tim Sweeney recently went on a tangent over the possibility of Twitter being banned in places like the EU over Grok being used to generate CSAM, and he was getting really oddly defensive and his nonsensical reasoning for being mad was that it was a "political attack" of sorts.
ember junco
still tho, considering how Epic are gonna do a fuck ton of Fort collabs via buyi...
Realistically I don’t see that affecting the game
You just know like 80% of that will be like emoticons or like sprays
safe hull
Not-fun fact for all you sonic fans interested in fortnite all of a sudden, Epic...
So like, don't give that freak money. Cool thx
scarlet ether
Not-fun fact for all you sonic fans interested in fortnite all of a sudden, Epic...
lowkey Tim is a dumbass for that
like you see that shit and assume it's affecting free speech
no bro that is actual lives at risk
ember junco
Not-fun fact for all you sonic fans interested in fortnite all of a sudden, Epic...
I won’t lie
scarlet ether
Elon is a bum and so is Tim "I hate improving my game launcher made in Unreal Engine" Sweeney
ember junco
I don’t think anyone who plays Fortnite likes Tim Sweeney 💀
ember junco
Like I think the only people who do are the ones who make those slop creative maps and get paid for it
stiff salmon
another one for the count
humble drum
Knuckles will be included cause he has car
scarlet ether
Knuckles will be included cause he has car
like no shit Sonic would be in
so will Shadow, Tails and Knuckles
safe hull
You can not like him but buying vbucks is directly contributing to him. This aint a seperate the art from the artist shit, I'm not having a do-over of morons defending Scott Cawthon and FNaF again
prime hearth
You can not like him but buying vbucks is directly contributing to him. This ain...
evergreen image:
safe hull
(Also side note, deadass how tf do people still defend Scott 💀💀💀)
Because they infantilize a grown ass man in his 50s who has been using the internet for around 30 years and act like he doesn't know any better for some reason
stiff salmon
(Also side note, deadass how tf do people still defend Scott 💀💀💀)
something something fnaf 2 movie
ember junco
If anything Fnaf 2 should be more of a grounds to criticise him
He can’t write a movie for shit 💀
safe hull
dusty osprey
another one for the count
He needs it
strange estuary
Surely he can share some of it...
still epoch
ok so
correct me if im wrong
but
it seems fortnite will actually do sonic characters
and they wont comprimise the size and animations
and actually do something special outside of the fortnite base shape
untold kayak
it seems fortnite will actually do sonic characters
Either sidekicks or they pull some sort of miracle from what I could check
safe hull
Fortnite skins are skins
They are not an unlockable character or anything, they have to fit proportionally to their rigs and hitbox standards
Which is why the mech skins exist
To help smaller characters fit within the constraints they have to be in
still epoch
like what does this imply is the thing
safe hull
It means you're actually getting a Sonic skin
Unknown if he will be stretched or in a mech
It means that the skins won't just be jonesy in a sonic onesie or some shit
But you're not gonna be able to play as a proportionally accurate Sonic who won't be in a mech exoskeleton
safe hull
🤷
cunning echo
it might just be a mech
safe hull
Would be cool if it was
People bitching about how he wouldn't use one and it's the fucking car arguement all over again
ember junco
I mean people whine if Sonic breathes the wrong way
safe hull
Because I don't like man shaped sonic and I doubt sega would like it either
dawn pumice
With that logic it’s saying Scooby should be walking like a human in a skeleton costume
safe hull
“Sonic wouldn’t use a mech”
Just they wait til they see the emotes Sonic can pull off
ember junco
Nuh uh
ember junco
He actually doesn’t use anything
dawn pumice
Tails made a mech for sonic to test out
safe hull
"NO YOU CAN'T MAKE SONIC DO THAT"
dawn pumice
There
ember junco
Because he’s free
dawn pumice
😭
ember junco
Like the wind
dawn pumice
Have Sonic’s mech be some tails mech colored like Sonic
And have shadows mech be GUN
there I saved Fortnite
ember junco
Have Sonic’s mech be some tails mech colored like Sonic
Yeah
Literally just make it a Tornado mech
safe hull
Have Sonic’s mech be some tails mech colored like Sonic
I think that one mech based off the bumpers and springs was cool af
dawn pumice
Ya that’s my favorite one
ember junco
Literally just make it a Tornado mech
Wait no
dawn pumice
ember junco
Sonic can’t have any vehicles
dawn pumice
This one is legit almost perfect
safe hull
Would love if his backbling was like a 1-Up Monitor that was hooked up like a battery
dawn pumice
See that’s sick af
rugged otter
tbh I just hate the little seat mech idea, the idea of Sonic piloting a mech is cool if it's like something bulkier
though idgaf about fort so it's whatever
dawn pumice
I would too, but it’s gotta take in the default Fortnite hit boxes
ember junco
Personally I’d rather lanky Sonic because with the mechs it’s kinda hard to actually see the character
But if it’s like the absolute only way Sega will let the collab happen I’m cool with it
safe hull
Metal Sonic skin with Peridot-esque limb enhancers with a Wisp Capsule backbling
ember junco
YEAAAAAAA
dawn pumice
Personally I’d rather lanky Sonic because with the mechs it’s kinda hard to actu...
As much as lanky sonic would be extremely funny
Sega would throw a shit fit
ember junco
Sega would throw a shit fit
They should lock in‼️
rugged otter
imagine if Torii got a skin before she even shows up in a game 💀
ember junco
imagine if Torii got a skin before she even shows up in a game 💀
Wait holdon
Torii and Professor Pickle skins????
rugged otter
oh yeah guess something like a small motobug would make good pet potential
ember junco
Kinda peak
wide portal
Torii and Professor Pickle skins????
who the fuck knows who either of these guys are outside of sonic fans
ember junco
For Sidekicks if there are any my money is on the Chao
safe hull
oh yeah guess something like a small motobug would make good pet potential
Unlockable style having it swap between a Classic/Modern style
pulsar horizon
As much as lanky sonic would be extremely funny
It could work tbh
safe hull
EW
ember junco
For Sidekicks if there are any my money is on the Chao
Like it’s easy money and they’re hella customisable
rugged otter
there's also flickies
ember junco
Like you don’t gotta reach like smth like SpongeBob
ember junco
Wisps over Chao????
rugged otter
Wisps over Chao????
Wisp Chao...
pulsar horizon
Are there even flying sidekicks yet?
rugged otter
wait sorry can't go leaking chao garden 2 details
ember junco
Are there even flying sidekicks yet?
Mothman Jr
But it doesn’t float like super high
Like it ain’t like the Rocket Back Bling
pulsar horizon
I can see Tails as a sidekick
ember junco
I can see Tails as a sidekick
I could defo see it too
But I kinda doubt they wouldn’t want all of team sonic playable
pulsar horizon
Sega ain’t allowing it 😭
I’m assuming you think it’s gonna be a mech situation
dawn pumice
That was legitimately the reason why sonic isn’t in Fortnite as of now cuz of that situation with Sega and epic
dawn pumice
I’m assuming you think it’s gonna be a mech situation
Ya
grand cobalt
It could work tbh
pulsar horizon
But I kinda doubt they wouldn’t want all of team sonic playable
Most likely Shadow and Sonic
dawn pumice
I can’t see sega giving up that easily on their ideal
grand cobalt
anything but this im sorry
pulsar horizon
Watch the skin be like Eggman and that’s it
pulsar horizon
At most Eggman as the skin and Sonic as the sidekick and have Metal as a cosmetic for Sonic
ember junco
Didn’t Adira say they likely aren’t sidekicks
dawn pumice
Ya
What I would do honestly
Sonic (skin)
- Realistic texture (alt)
- Super Sonic (alt)
Shadow (skin)
- realistic texture (alt)
- Super Shadow (alt)
Pickaxes: Checkpoint Pole and Chaos Spear
Backbling: 1-Up Sonic / Chaos Emerald (color change) and Doom Eye
Emote: Sonic Idle, Spinning the Goalpost
prime hearth
I think the most likely outcome is a mech but I could see it spun as like
a tornado-themed one, like tails made it in his lab to even the odds or something
bung tails in alongside him in a similar cyclone-themed mech, bobs your uncle
safe hull
if my uncle was named bob, I'd kill him because that means his full name is robert and anyone named robert is a piece of shit asshole because i have never known a good robert ever
prime hearth
loading screen art of tails in a welding mask working alongside one of the ten billion mechanic-like skins they've had in the past
ember junco
What I would do honestly
Sonic (skin)
- Realistic texture (alt)
- Super Sonic ...
Defo a reach, but I’d also say for a glider either the Tornado or Shadow’s bike
Wait
safe hull
If Eggman's a skin I think besides the Eggmobile, a cool glider would be the Egg Dragoon and you'd hold the lil legs as the handles
ember junco
What if the collab also includes Festival items
Like if they revive the jam tracks that were planned
ember junco
Tbh I was thinking moreso like the irl sonic and shadow guitars
dawn pumice
^^^
ember junco
I doubt they’d have Underground rep but that guitar can defo work considering the Daft Punk one
safe hull
Honestly would be cool to get non-Crush 40 Jam tracks
Gimme some Sonic Boom, every vocal track for Frontiers lol, and This Machine
Those tracks fuck
ember junco
Live and Learn, Escape from the City, Undefeatable
But yeah like max these are the most realistic picks
dawn pumice
And I think live and learn and escape from the city were the rumored ones
ember junco
Yeah
IIRC they were either rumoured or leaked to be Player Anthems in Rocket League and also rumoured for Fortnite
prime hearth
Karasuno Art
o shit that reminds me, forgor to mention recently
ember junco
IIRC they were either rumoured or leaked to be Player Anthems in Rocket League a...
Wait yeah I remember it was leaked
Because the Escape From the City Anthem was intended to be one of the free rewards during that event
prime hearth
o shit that reminds me, forgor to mention recently
IRL sonic mate at work went to japan recently and brought back some sonc goodies, including a wee bit o karasuno 
ember junco
And they were going to repeat 8ths - DEADMAU5 and have it transfer to Fortnite if you got the Player Anthem
And lowkey
prime hearth
(great mate who I’m convinced lives through sidequests lmao - he went to the sonic & friends cafe, casually met hoshino there and then went “yea the food was stale tho” 😭 )
ember junco
Kinda thankful they didn’t do that
I’m pretty sure 8ths still hasn’t appeared in the item shop and it’s been like half a year
And to do that to Escape from the City would be criminal
prime hearth
(great mate who I’m convinced lives through sidequests lmao - he went to the son...
(it’s also how I now have hoshino’s signature yey)
ember junco
And they were going to repeat 8ths - DEADMAU5 and have it transfer to Fortnite i...
Found the post https://x.com/samleakss/status/1970519779271143930
X
It’d be cool if the Rings Boost and Trail also comes back
The Invincibility Boost clears but still it’d be cool to have
(Btw Sam is a reputable RL leaker, like they leak when RL cars are soon gonna be transferable to FN and all that)
Well not when just that they will
strange estuary
I can't feel anything cool when he's in a mech like this
I think there are actually a multidude of reasons why Sonic being in a car is fitting & cool compared to this
I would like to say Sonic being in a mech isn't conceptually a bad idea; however, him being in an extremely light mech doesn't have appeal (at least to me)
It's as much of a weird compromise as stretching his limbs to be really lanky
dusty osprey
Surely he can share some of it...
No
smoky summit
Guys wait wait
Maybe
That Doi guy that was talking about a playtest
And was obsessed with Mecha Sonic
...
https://x.com/i/status/2017673622383480889 maybe they weren't lying
X
😭 😭 😭
@loud zinc get in here
loud zinc
Oh shit
humble drum
smoky summit
Can you pull back up what they said about the playtest?
loud zinc
I don’t have it such ask Nero
smoky summit
Can someone ping Nero idk their handle
smoky summit
https://x.com/i/status/2017673622383480889 maybe they weren't lying
Also @modest parcel you might be interested
still epoch
um get the info rn
dawn pumice
loud zinc
@glossy sphinx
modest parcel
Also <@1350667281499426947> you might be interested
I didn’t look into it yesterday but I was thinking abt it
Honestly I expect them to be crashing out over it considering how little it seems to resemble the mechanical parts of the spritework
But that’s just from a glance after a long day at work
still epoch
i dunno
modest parcel
I’ll check when I get out later today
still epoch
the first look at it looked very faithful
humble drum
https://x.com/i/status/2017673622383480889 maybe they weren't lying
also about that
sega made a new reference for him
humble drum
this was in response to someone pointing out he has 2 extra quills compared to scrapnik
wise chasm
I tried to look for what you all are talking about, but the one post that started the whole MK2 discussion back in August got deleted for some reason
wise chasm
Anyway, uhhhhh, I'll kill myself if what he said was actually right and the next mainline drops Frontiers as a concept straight up
rugged otter
same
dawn pumice
-
was obsessed over Mecha Sonic, pointing out details in said concept art we had no idea what he was yapping about
-
he played a playtest that we don’t know anything of but it was extremely early
humble drum
what was this for anyway I never heard about this
raw osprey
Anyway, uhhhhh, I'll kill myself if what he said was actually right and the next...
"the open zone is gone...................????????"
dawn pumice
Anyway, uhhhhh, I'll kill myself if what he said was actually right and the next...
I honestly don’t think they’re ditching that
humble drum
in speed sim this mecha sonic is actually from the past because the time eater came back and left a bunch of rifts
so idk if that relates to whatever this is
mint umbra
i mean the way nibroc's message is structured makes it seem like the design ref was made specifically for speed sim
not that they already had it for another project
rugged otter
that'd be extremely funny ngl
dawn pumice
not that they already had it for another project
Doi mentioned he just saw concept art for it
Not really mentioning if it was for another project
That’s why we kinda ignored it cuz we thought there was no way there was a new detailed design sheet for Mecha
wise chasm
shit from august coming back today to haunt us because of Mecha Sonic in Speed Sim, I can't
wide portal
what the fuck is happening
raw osprey
you cant make this shit up
dawn pumice
what the fuck is happening
Quick version - Doi from back in August might be right
Speed sim released Mecha Sonic and one of the things that proved Doi was right was that he saw Mecha Sonic blueprints / concept art
dawn pumice
also about that
And this was also discovered
So in conclusion, we know he playtested for something
wide portal
also about that
is classic sonic a character in speed sim
rugged otter
yes
humble drum
is classic sonic a character in speed sim
yes and tails knuckles and amy
wide portal
ah that explains it
humble drum
despite this it doesn't let them add any classic character to the game sega is still stingy
raw osprey
can someone actually sent that leak so i can read it fully
wide portal
classic proportions for mecha
humble drum
so no mighty ray honey etc.
dawn pumice
can someone actually sent that leak so i can read it fully
It wasn’t really anything special
It’s just the stuff I said
And it was a series of tweets
humble drum
I'll talk about this in sonic lobby since it's not a leak but there's something interesting about the mecha line
raw osprey
wasnt it leak from 4chan?
raw osprey
oh yeah oh yeah i remember it
mint umbra
i found the convo screenshots and it does seem like a major part of what they were talking about is that this isn't actually mecha sonic MK2??
wide portal
lmfao even when he was right he was wrong
mint umbra
like there's an image of it posted but then they say it's not mecha sonic MK2 now?
wide portal
“it’s not mecha sonic mk2” i guess im just going blind then
mint umbra
which isn't like
something that seems to have changed, going off of this https://x.com/SonicSimulator/status/2017343310537306509
X
still "MK II"
wide portal
a more 3K faithful look but otherwise it’s the same guy
what resources can sonic team even afford to spare that they’ll design new references for the ROBLOX GAME
mint umbra
apperantly this was one of the message
so clearly
like
thats just wrong
if they just made new mk2 reference art 😭
rugged otter
it feels like a coincidence going by what we see
prime hearth
"mk2 is too detailed for concept art!!!" my guy he is made of tubes and circles
showing em a bayformer and watching em shit themselves in fear
wide portal
"mk2 is too detailed for concept art!!!" my guy he is made of tubes and circles
Everybody in this series is made of tubes and circles 😭 😭
humble drum
also the speed sim devs practically begged for mecha to be added so that kinda hurts the theory of sega really wanting to use him
this was a very situational case where they did get to because of the whole time travel plot going on
rugged otter
clearly sega is cooking up big plans for mecha..
MECHA SOUP
humble drum
sega still flat out denies classic metal sonic though
so I'm not really sure WHY they got to use og mecha
wide portal
this was a very situational case where they did get to because of the whole time...
time travel huh 
humble drum
time travel huh <:bup:1191906899583578173>
yeah they brought back some old versions of worlds including a beta chemical plant
added a time eater boss that you fight as super silver
and now this
lunar trench
"mk2 is too detailed for concept art!!!" my guy he is made of tubes and circles
This is still top 1 dumbest shit i've ever heard in a leak
humble drum
where after the time eater incident there are still time rifts left that silver is trying to close
and eggman snuck mk2 out of one
lunar trench
Like it's genuinely amazing how dumb that soubds
wide portal
mecha has smaller proportions
classic era characters have appeared in speed sim
speed sim is having a time travel gimmick
humble drum
and this mk2 specifically is before knuckles fights him so he doesn't sink with part of sky sanctuary yet
apparently this doesn't effect the timeline in any way and scrapnik mecha still exists
prime hearth
well yeah it’s a fuckin Roblox game lmao
cunning echo
I dont think mecha sonic releasing in speed sims means much tho 😭
humble drum
well yeah it’s a fuckin Roblox game lmao
thing is unlike dash and speed battle they have to follow canon rules
cunning echo
Speedsim character release is kinda random
prime hearth
how will the branded lunch boxes affect the lore chat…………
dawn pumice
Like it's genuinely amazing how dumb that soubds
Playing devil’s advocate, isn’t that such a weirdly stupid detail thing to leak tho???
humble drum
so it's interesting they can pull something like this
dawn pumice
That’s such an ass pull if I ever seen one
cunning echo
also tbf, the mk2 being too detailed prolly means proportions wise
since it was straight up made on a sprite
humble drum
also the excuse for evil robots being playable is they can be reprogrammed
cunning echo
no draw for it
mint umbra
i mean that means it wasn't detailed enough doesnt it??
humble drum
which means that in speed sim's world at least there are now 2 good mecha sonics
mint umbra
not that its too detailed
humble drum
mint umbra
and clearly that wasnt an issue since they just
humble drum
this shit is confusing
mint umbra
made a new ref sheet with the missing detail
humble drum
can't forget though that a location originating from speed sim got used in sonic channel art
so it seems at least semi important to lore
partially
cunning echo
speedsim is part of sonic lore so
humble drum
yeah
cunning echo
Is not weid, the game is a success in roblox always being in the trending part
and sega keeps putting money into it
humble drum
it at least has to strictly follow the lore
humble drum
which is what really makes it interesting they do something weird like pulling mecha sonic from the past and then reprogramming that past version to be good
cause that's the excuse for eggman robots being playable
is that they get reprogrammed after the event
don't ask me how they reprogrammed neo metal
cunning echo
how did they reprogrammed neo metal
humble drum
how did they reprogrammed neo metal
🤫
raw osprey
decides to check 4chan for leaks
why is this so bleak man what happened to the game i loved
humble drum
sonic shadow and silver
die
wise chasm
Sonic Cafe Collection
bro just typing words with their fingers on their keyboard, huh
untold kayak
>decides to check 4chan for leaks
why is this so bleak man what happened to the ...
team dimension with marine and not Ariem
pulsar horizon
https://tenor.com/view/mr-boss-smiling-friends-crying-sad-over-gif-1400734489787...
Mr Boss, we still have Frontiers 2 and Crossworlds
humble drum
>Sonic Cafe Collection
bro just typing words with their fingers on their keyboar...
first game to sell negative copies
mint umbra
team dimension with marine and not Ariem
i mean thats not nearly as crazy as the silly ass crossworlds dlc here 😭
wide portal
>decides to check 4chan for leaks
why is this so bleak man what happened to the ...
strangest dlc line up of all time what was the logic here
0/10 try again later
raw osprey
>decides to check 4chan for leaks
why is this so bleak man what happened to the ...
4chan sonic leaks after 2022
humble drum
just leak sonic 4 deluxe already
mint umbra
FOR SOME REASON
we are not getting 24 new racers, all presumably requiring different rigs and animations, in YEAR 3 OF DLC lmao
smoky summit
But that’s just from a glance after a long day at work
You work Saturday 😭
lavish iron
>decides to check 4chan for leaks
why is this so bleak man what happened to the ...
Toei Animation???
Doesn’t feel realistic
smoky summit
Does anyone remember the server where the doi person was active in an talking about this stuff?
wide portal
SIC I think
modest parcel
You work Saturday 😭
Any day really
cunning echo
😭
at the same time
if doi guy is right it doesn't mean they scratched open zone, perhaps is just a 40$ tier kind of game like forces or shadow gens until the mainline
or, sonic team decided the open zone should be just a small hub like a shadow gens and put more into the linear levels following some reviews saying that cyberspace was better 
wide portal
if doi guy is right it doesn't mean they scratched open zone, perhaps is just a ...
State of Play in just a few weeks #ItsAllConnected
cunning echo
Always bet on it
modest parcel
Ok I read back and their thoughts on it
cunning echo
Sonic appearing in state of play and skipping Nintendo directs is no coincidence oomfs
modest parcel
The Mecha content in speed sim doesn't really prove anything towards the rumor, since it's the "toy" design used recently and not the original blueprint documents that they claimed to see
modest parcel
If it was the NuMecha design that they spotted, and they only thought that those documents showcased the original design, then the speculation about revealing specifics for how the head/eye/body transformation work was just hopium in that case
prime hearth
45 quid for this!!
modest parcel
But they're saying this isn't the design they saw, only that it's somewhat similar (which I don't buy considering the discourse surrounding it)
Ain't nothing mechanical about this design
And the visor is questionable as well
The upper eye is supposed to look like this when exposed
modest parcel
They call the toy design Nu mk2 so it's pretty much open and close imo
The pursuit for the original "blueprints" will continue....
smoky summit
What toy
smoky summit
And are these things they are saying un the server rn?
modest parcel
Yesterday yeah
modest parcel
It's a public server, you just gotta search for it
prime hearth
by this point I reckon there's absolutely nowt game-wise happening for mk2 and sonic team went "okay yeah our partners wanna do stuff with him, we should have some proper reference material available huh"
fully willing to bet a jakks figure isn't too far behind
smoky summit
It's a public server, you just gotta search for it
Just SiC?
modest parcel
Yeah
wide portal
They call the toy design Nu mk2 so it's pretty much open and close imo
Literally what kind of fucking nonsense
modest parcel
I mean they consider MK I to have the same outcome
Since the concept art is significantly more detailed than what exists in the games now
dawn pumice
if doi guy is right it doesn't mean they scratched open zone, perhaps is just a ...
Even if the playtest was true, I don’t think this is the case
cunning echo
why no
stiff salmon
Anyway, uhhhhh, I'll kill myself if what he said was actually right and the next...
context?
toxic vapor
Anyway, uhhhhh, I'll kill myself if what he said was actually right and the next...
Sounds like that Sega playtested a whole seperate project
toxic vapor
also the speed sim devs practically begged for mecha to be added so that kinda h...
Them making new sheets..
pulsar horizon
Oh boy a new Sonic lea-
sees it’s from he who cannot be named
Nvm
strange estuary
I'd rather nothing be said if it's from someone who can't be named
lunar trench
Anyway, uhhhhh, I'll kill myself if what he said was actually right and the next...
What was it already ?
wise chasm
#1309325201426743337 message
lunar trench
https://discord.com/channels/172394039788830730/1309325201426743337/140806130902...
Leakslop 😮💨
In any case, thx
last idol
45 quid for this!!
I got this for Christmas (And all the other cartridge sets) and omg the build quality is so ass 😭
I was kind of wondering why it was B&M exclusive here and after opening them I now understand 😭
But yeah from memory the mecha sonic schizo posting aside I think the point they were trying to make was that a lot of the improvements from shadow gens weren’t present in what they played? But my memory is fuzzy
stiff salmon
>decides to check 4chan for leaks
why is this so bleak man what happened to the ...
this is fake i dont see no tanjiro yet
prime hearth
I was kind of wondering why it was B&M exclusive here and after opening them I n...
B&M is so fascinating when it comes to toys and nerd tat, how on earth are they the leading retailer for doccy who figures lol
last time I went they had tons of Davros in his fuckass egg from a single 7th doc serial and I’ve never seen it anywhere else since, where on earth are they getting these from
safe hull
last time I went they had tons of Davros in his fuckass egg from a single 7th do...
Opening my kinder surprise egg to see my grotesque homonculis thriving inside
smoky summit
So like
Future of Sonic to revealed this week or the next?
Cause apparently there will be a direct and state of play
wide portal
more confident in the state of play than I am in the direct but anything can happen
cunning echo
open your heart and think where sonic would be tobe
wide portal
Anyway uh it’s looking like next week
dawn pumice
No sonic 
dawn pumice
prime hearth
the direct will have sonic!..... rumble console port
past matrix
I'll look forward to the state of play for some..kind of sonic title.
Maybe a modern 2d game or something like that.
An in-betweener for a mainline title.
I'd just be very surprised if the next big game is dropped/teased there.
safe hull
I'll be watching for any cool neat games in general as I enjoy new unique stuff beyond sonic the hedgehog 
wide portal
I'll be watching for any cool neat games in general as I enjoy new unique stuff ...
Danganronpa 2x2 news 🙏
past matrix
I'll be watching for any cool neat games in general as I enjoy new unique stuff ...
That to
Hopefully new wolverine stuff?
Hoepfully?
smoky summit
I was reading some out there speculation about Sonic X returning and I was like what on Earth, then I noticed it was a different server
I was like damn
Things are wild af outside the TailsChannel walls
raw ether
The only way Sonic X would return is if (A) the Thorndykes don’t appear outside of flashbacks, and (B) the English dub is not overseen by Jack Fletcher. /lh /s
untold kayak
Nah
I don't think X returning would be a good idea
it already would run into the Futurama issue
where the idea of it returning would undermine the previous endings
stiff salmon
I don't think X returning would be a good idea
hypothetically doesnt X already exist in the mainline timeline
bc of the cosmo cameo's in sonic channel
untold kayak
yeah season 3 would be incompartible with heroes and Shadow 05
due to the amnesia storyline being developed different from those games
stiff salmon
right
silent haven
at best it’s a broad strokes thing the same as the rivals games but i don’t think they’ve ever elaborated or done anything besides the cosmo cameos to suggest otherwise so
stiff salmon
right
untold kayak
Ian said that he pitched an adaption of the Metarex arc for IDW
but SEGA declined saying that most X content is off-limits
basically X is in the same position as Archie or Fleetway in terms of how the games can touch the content of that or not
Just a few elements of X had sneaked their way into the games like Vectilla, the design of the Chaotix Detective Agency office (the exterior, at least), that Barney-esque character of a tv show and the plant with Cosmo's name but this one just alludes to her, it isn't actually her by any means in the canon
prime hearth
honestly not sure they really need to bring X back tbh - something else in a similar vein sure but like, it ended lol, time to move on
Not everything needs new entries forever
(what would be nice to see is a physical release with the crush 40 tracks restored but think we’re further from that happening than ever rn lol)
stiff salmon
that aint happening for a while
toxic vapor
Maybe a modern 2d game or something like that.
An in-betweener for a mainline t...
*2d classic game
past matrix
I don’t need one of those
He’s had 2 in recent memory, I want my sonic rush type of stuff back
prime hearth
I reckon we've got another year or two til another 2D game
they're pacing out games so I can't see em dropping both that and a mainline in a single year
past matrix
well I’m of the opinion that mainline isn’t coming this year atm
So that might be the differentiation in expectations.
cause if there is one this year, that’s probably gotta be the tightest release window I’d ever seen for an mainline title without the ‘mysterious teaser’ that’d naturally come a year before.
but idk 35th anniversary year. Who knows
toxic vapor
He’s had 2 in recent memory, I want my sonic rush type of stuff back
Classic has had 2 games to himself after 15 years of mainline hiatus
Modern had 3 Dimps boost games….
He doesn’t deserve anything
strange estuary
It becomes a lot more fair when you count the other games that feature him
stiff salmon
*2d classic game
i don't wanna see corporate sonic in my game till arzest gets their act together
toxic vapor
i don't wanna see corporate sonic in my game till arzest gets their act together
Corporate Sonic game?
What counts as non corporate Sonic game
untold kayak
I mean, all Sonic games are corporate
just by virtue of being under SEGA
So if we're strict, no game of Sonic can be considered non-corporate
wide portal
I do think there’s a 50/50 chance the title we get this year is classic focused
It’s been 3 years since superstars and it is a major anniversary
stiff salmon
I do think there’s a 50/50 chance the title we get this year is classic focused
its 50/50 but they 100% have to innovate
both music wise and atleast try to evolve the artstyle
wide portal
I mean they don’t have to do anything
I think the biggest deviation from superstars in a potential classic game is maybe going back to the 2D style
but if it’s all the same guys from arzest I imagine the general aesthetic and feel will be the same
cunning echo
ngl classic game this year would be a little lame
stiff salmon
both music wise and atleast try to evolve the artstyle
of course this is also coming from someone who has played the BTS/ATS duology recently
stiff salmon
ngl classic game this year would be a little lame
right, i would def 100% want them to cook and prioritize what went wrong with superstars
stiff salmon
(also ffs please use new sfx for the menu don't use the mania stuff for everything)
stiff salmon
even if it was done by headcanon or whitehead
i dont want them to touch classic at all tbh
just put him in crossworlds and call it a day
cunning echo
I would prefer if they dropped a classic and some other game
prime hearth
cause if there is one this year, that’s probably gotta be the tightest release w...
I think by this point they've gradually learnt that nobody really fucks with the vague teasers in the long run lol
stiff salmon
I think by this point they've gradually learnt that nobody really fucks with the...
they have to 100% notice that right
there's no shot they dont
cunning echo
at least not with the 3 sec cgi teasers 😭
past matrix
cause if there is one this year, that’s probably gotta be the tightest release w...
That and no title leak yet.
raw ether
Can they just bring Evening Star on board? Please and thank you.
past matrix
and nearly almost every reveal has been prefaced with that shit.
prime hearth
crossworlds' TGA teaser was a weird fluke that I'm guessing was tied down by playstation with the state of play needing to be the announcement, but that aside we've been getting announcements within the year and its been infinitely better lol
you do not need the multiple-year stretched marketing, nobody cares for that shit, just announce the game close to when it's done
past matrix
and nearly almost every reveal has been prefaced with that shit.
shadow gens had it, sonic rangers was a thing, I think it happened with crossworlds and superstars; it’s the indicator.
zinc spear
I feel like at this rate there's not much reason to withhold the gameplay unless it's such a major shift
past matrix
if it comes in hot this year, then I will know because of that.
prime hearth
they have to 100% notice that right
IIRC iizuka also said in interviews they felt they announced frontiers far too early so its 100% a deliberate strat lol
coarse ferry
Well at least they admit it lmao
prime hearth
(and hes completely right cos fucking hell how did they announce it a year and a half before release lol)
raw ether
It was believed to be originally set for a 2021 release but was delayed for "quality control".
zinc spear
I mean now we know they basically had to beg for that delay iirc
prime hearth
trailer had 2022 in so by that point the delay would've been set in stone
toxic vapor
ngl classic game this year would be a little lame
No it wouldn’t
still epoch
yes it would, not if sega doesnt do it right
toxic vapor
Superstars been really fun lately ngl
still epoch
i am still waiting for them to do classic sonic justice, and they havent
toxic vapor
Been playing it a lot more recently compared to Frontiers
strange estuary
I am all for Classic Sonic if they don't repeat the same mistakes with Superstars
Ik it's a fine game overall, but I expect more of them because it had some big flaws
coarse ferry
I feel like if we are goign to get classic sonic game it'll be either alongside with Frontiers 2 or next year because I don't think it's a good thing for it to ever appear if by itself
toxic vapor
Battle of MID
The middest Classic game still has fundamentally better gameplay than the best Modern game
modest parcel
We need a Mania 2 to save us #tbh
toxic vapor
I did a recent replaythrough of Mania and ngl I disliked it bad
I despise Mania’s design philosophy
prime hearth
trailer had 2022 in so by that point the delay would've been set in stone
sidenote but just bunged up the central to rewatch the frontiers tease and I forgot they announced origins like this lmao
toxic vapor
Mania felt like I was going through the motions
prime hearth
"we're re-releasing the classics, no new gameplay tho we've just bunged in clips of the other existing ports enjoy"
silent haven
sidenote but just bunged up the central to rewatch the frontiers tease and I for...
is the ordering here the last time they implied cd wasn’t after 1
🧐
prime hearth
they don't even say whats its releasing on just "the latest platforms"
cunning echo
yes it would, not if sega doesnt do it right
I didnt mean it in a way to say if done right
I just saying ONLY classic game would be lame
prime hearth
even the frontiers teaser at least says the consoles!!
cunning echo
would prefer if it were 2 games overall
zinc spear
Ngl they might just do what they did with superstars and have some other company deal with it
iirc we haven't had a solely sonic team based 2d platformer since...actually I don't remember.
strange estuary
We need a Mania 2 to save us #tbh
No, I'm done with bringing back old stuff
modest parcel
It'd be so funny if they decide to go with anyone other than Arzest
modest parcel
No, I'm done with bringing back old stuff
Wow
modest parcel
I only say Mania 2 in the way ppl say Frontiers 2
zinc spear
does dimps still exist? 😂
modest parcel
I don't actually want "Mania 2" as in reusing old zones
prime hearth
I think a superstars 2 (or at least a spiritial successor even if they drop the name) is inevitable but def not in the same year as another game
they're spreading the games out over multiple years like a fat ass over multiple bus seats, they're not gonna try and cannibalise one with the other
still epoch
superstars 2 but presentation is way better
sonic has his cobalt blue again
no genesis synths in sight
we broke juns genesis sound devices in front of him
strange estuary
I only say Mania 2 in the way ppl say Frontiers 2
But Mania bringing back old stages & characters is one of its defining traits. You don't say you want Frontiers 2 without an open zone
still epoch
we have atmosphere back in the menu
prime hearth
my big hope is they either beef up the amount of stuff ingame or charge way less than £50
cunning echo
But Mania bringing back old stages & characters is one of its defining traits. Y...
he doesn't mean bring back old stuff, just a new game by the same devs
still epoch
i wouldnt mind paying full price if it is a meaty game
modest parcel
But Mania bringing back old stages & characters is one of its defining traits. Y...
The returning zones were only padding for the initial concept of Mania; it added to the core ideas of the game but wasn't essential
prime hearth
that was 100% the biggest failing of superstars and surely they would've noticed that when it only started selling properly once it hit black friday discounts lol
still epoch
i would be happy with superstars engine but presentation is good
we have some fucking skyboxes
some textures
some atmosphere
modest parcel
The problem is presentation is dependant on how SEGA themselves view Classic 😔
still epoch
and i rather have modern 2d game than stupid ass sega messing him up gain
modest parcel
Give me Classic Sonic Sauce and my life is YOURS
still epoch
they have no idea what classic sonic sauce even is
modest parcel
True..,,
still epoch
they are too deep in their mini sonic lite sonic juice
modest parcel
Tbf Arzest is heavy on these vibes in general
still epoch
that only people who are just satsfied with rolling physics will find acceptable
still epoch
Tbf Arzest is heavy on these vibes in general
they better change
modest parcel
All their games are very -lite of the original franchises
cunning echo
classic sonic needs boost
still epoch
fangames prove that well
cunning echo
still epoch
ats, bts, fallen star, all of them have the classic sonic sauce
but sega is like uwu lite sonic arent genesis synths so nostalgic
NO
THEY ARENT
still epoch
WHEN YOU VSHOW A THING TOO MANY TIMES IT STOPS BECOMING NOSTALGIA
wow arent you nostalgic to breating air
NO
FUCK YOU SEGA
modest parcel
ats, bts, fallen star, all of them have the classic sonic sauce
If we ever get a nu classic game with style like these we'll be so back
lunar trench
*2d classic game
what a bore
still epoch
This is literally all they gotta do
why fangames get it so well what makes classic sonic so special and sega does not
its actually wild
lunar trench
bcs they don't have mandates
modest parcel
Because fangames are made by people who are passionate about the classic artstyle beyond corporate desires
wide portal
what’s wrong with mendates
still epoch
what about girldates
lunar trench
😭
still epoch
Because fangames are made by people who are passionate about the classic artstyl...
i hate corporations i want to have everything as i want
lunar trench
what about girldates
everyone talks about manuscripts but what about womanuscripts
still epoch
everyone talks about management what about womanagement
stiff salmon
no genesis synths in sight
i honestly think BTS/ATS and fallen star set my expectations for superstars's ost way too high 😭
stiff salmon
why fangames get it so well what makes classic sonic so special and sega does no...
THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING
zinc spear
i honestly think BTS/ATS and fallen star set my expectations for superstars's os...
Ngl falk is one of my favourites when it comes to composers that have done sonic
not sure what they're up to nowadays but BTS/ATS still slaps 10+ years on
stiff salmon
not sure what they're up to nowadays but BTS/ATS still slaps 10+ years on
it still ages well even now
i come back to that ost alot tbh
zinc spear
holy shit wait falk did songs for no straight roads? and did some arrangements for sonic symphony...neat shit
wide portal
https://fixupx.com/_rando_d/status/2018140477225066677?s=20
tbh we probably should’ve anticipated this with the sonic website getting basically no updates aside from redirects to the other subsites, and Crossworlds/anniversary sites being Sega subdomains instead
but this still really fucking sucks
past matrix
was that the sonic “we no longer have no ages” website, or was that another one
wide portal
The other one, the English site
wide portal
Frontiers is the only recent game that didn’t have a Sega subpage
loud zinc
tbh we probably should’ve anticipated this with the sonic website getting basica...
Or maybe this is prep for smth new..?
wide portal
no it’s not the English sites have been bare minimum schlock for years
silent haven
is it same for other franchises too ?
that'd be easiest way to check
bc feels to me like it's just consolidation
lunar trench
Huh, lol
dawn pumice
no it’s not the English sites have been bare minimum schlock for years
Oh is it not the 35th site?
smoky summit
What was the earliest Eclipse leak
dawn pumice
@smoky summit Nov 20
lunar trench
Mannnnn
modest parcel
Why does it sound like you're still burned from that night 😭
lunar trench
I stayed up until 6 am wadaya think
hybrid hill
You really need to stop doing that oomf! 😭
modest parcel
So no different from normal then
hybrid hill
YOUR SLEEP IS IMPORTANT
modest parcel
hybrid hill
lunar trench
You really need to stop doing that oomf! 😭
BROTHER YOU WERE THERE
hybrid hill
Okay tbf
lunar trench
STUPID MF
modest parcel
lunar trench
Brother we're talking about the game awards
hybrid hill
Brother we're talking about the game awards
Oh
lunar trench
.
lunar trench
Idiootmf 💔
hybrid hill
This is why I’m French phobic 💔
lunar trench
Okay spectre the molester
lunar trench
😎
hybrid hill
@modest parcel this is what I have to go thru every day 💔
modest parcel
lunar trench
Says the francophobic guy 🙄
lunar trench
I'll always remember when you insulted my entire family tree bcs we're french
dawn pumice
😭
lunar trench
Bro you didn't need to say allat to my mother 😔
hybrid hill
I'll always remember when you insulted my entire family tree bcs we're french
was it during a Crossworlds match
😭😭😭
dawn pumice
Bro I lowkey stopped playing crossworlds
lunar trench
My poor mother
dawn pumice
Idk why
dawn pumice
😭
lunar trench
😔
dawn pumice
Ugly ahh dog
lunar trench
@wise chasm look what he'd do to u
lunar trench
Kms wtf is that gif bruh
modest parcel
It's art you wouldn't understand
lunar trench
Then no mainline in 2026 ?
dawn pumice
In terms of game announcements I kinda see June 2026
modest parcel
dawn pumice
But other announcements
modest parcel
Release before movie
lunar trench
Early 2027
Nah they love their fall window too much
dawn pumice
U convinced me dex
lunar trench
Yah cuz this ain't thay age anymore unc
modest parcel
They can go back!!
lunar trench
What gta 6 being delayed to the movie's release date 
modest parcel
And a few months more of dev time can always polish things out
lunar trench
Hm
I mean
I don't disagree with u
So we thinkin' 2026 central for the 35th ?
Or sgf
lunar trench
35th
modest parcel
Plus if they announce preorders by christmas they can actually advertise it as a product in time for Christmas sales
modest parcel
SGF tbh
dawn pumice
So we thinkin' 2026 central for the 35th ?
Yes in a way
I think we’re getting a central in Feb to March
And an event on June
lunar trench
An event ?
dawn pumice
An event ?
I’m betting we’re getting a sort of event similar to the 25th party
hybrid hill
Me personally I think there’ll be a Central this year
hybrid hill
35th roadmap like they did with the 30th
dawn pumice
^^^
hybrid hill
Game teaser/trailer at the end depending on when the central is
Could possibly happen in February
Or March
Who has that one Henry image
dawn pumice
I feel like this central is like gonna be “hey check out these things for the 35th we got, and check out this event in June where we’re gonna be showing the future of Sonic here”
And legit that’s it
Gets people ready for June
While not showing shit
dawn pumice
Who has that one Henry image
Which one
hybrid hill
dawn pumice
Me either
dawn pumice
Actually
hybrid hill
And watch as that shit be another classic sonic game 😭💔
hybrid hill
They could tease in Feb or March
dawn pumice
And we ain’t seeing the mainline til end of this year 😭
lunar trench
Bruh
dawn pumice
One thing for sure
hybrid hill
Replace the 2 with 6….
dawn pumice
It ain’t fucking eclipse
hybrid hill
hybrid hill
Watch it all be false and we get the trailer during the next sop
Genuinely would piss me off ugh
lunar trench
Also fiery idk about this whole 35th party thingy cuz atp this just seems like a waste of money
hybrid hill
I HATE SONIC REVEALS AT SOP
dawn pumice
Also fiery idk about this whole 35th party thingy cuz atp this just seems like a...
I mean
lunar trench
That could've been use for a tga teailer
dawn pumice
They did mention community events in the press
lunar trench
And they had a whole year of racing shit planned out and :
Toriii appeared once in this shit and dissapeared for a whole ass year
hybrid hill
the year of racing was a filler episode 🫢
lunar trench
Mf she's potential woman
lunar trench
That's insane
hybrid hill
The past 3 years were filler years 😭
YEAR OF SHADOW WAS THE MOVIE WTF
dawn pumice
😭
hybrid hill
I’m saying 😭😭
dawn pumice
Thought yall wouldn’t notice 😭 😭
modest parcel
hybrid hill
Year of Shadow is like Broly
hybrid hill
Racing is like Daima
lunar trench
Brother we're too sonic pilled to not notice fym, this ain't reddit
dawn pumice
Year of racing was filler af too
hybrid hill
Let him... cook...
No dex!!
dawn pumice
U can’t even deny that
lunar trench
Let him... cook...
Go back to watching ur two hrs long video on classic slop
dawn pumice
35th…now we’re in the year of peak….
modest parcel
Go back to watching ur two hrs long video on classic slop
I didn't even do that I saved it for later smh
lunar trench
Not a true sonic fan smh
hybrid hill
35th…now we’re in the year of peak….
This shit either gonna be a Shinitani episode or a Yamamuro episode 💔
modest parcel
dawn pumice
😭
hybrid hill
This shit either gonna be a Shinitani episode or a Yamamuro episode 💔
@lunar trench you’ve made me to brain rotted now smh
dawn pumice
Anyways I’m betting on a central in Feb or March
lunar trench
This shit either gonna be a Shinitani episode or a Yamamuro episode 💔
I will commit suicide on tails channel ytb if we end up with a yamamuro year
dawn pumice
But it ain’t the game central
lunar trench
Making a short narrated by kennie
If sonic ain't here this year ik toby fox got my back can i get a haymen
🥹
dawn pumice
what would be the equivalent of this to sonic 😭
hybrid hill
I will commit suicide on tails channel ytb if we end up with a yamamuro year
Here’s our Rails Channel Discord Mod
H3ylow!!!
lunar trench
https://static0.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Entry-1-Goku-...
Sonic prime's plot
hybrid hill
https://static0.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Entry-1-Goku-...
Colors Uktimate
hybrid hill
DBS beerus if they didn’t gaf 😂😂🔥
lunar trench
Ehhh
dawn pumice
My ass got bored with it within the third episode
lunar trench
It's okay
A solid 6/10
Pacing is kinda ass tho
I think it's dissapointing tho
On pretty much all front
It's still a nice lil story to follow ig
It can look nice
But it shouldn't "it can" after a supposedly 4 yrs long pre prod cycle
dawn pumice
I was boutta say
lunar trench
It's obv better than super or gt
not hard
But nowhere near as good as og db
Obv
dawn pumice
I thought super was ok
lunar trench
Super's peak is an 8 but most of the time it's a 4 or a 3 tbh
Only talking about the anime, been a while since i read morro and granolah
Ik the start of both of these arcs is really good but both of them fall off midway through
(A bit later for granolah tho tbf)
But i couldn't really judge them now
Esp since i've read so much more shit since then
wise chasm
<@70928838661509120> look what he'd do to u
toxic vapor
he doesn't mean bring back old stuff, just a new game by the same devs
I love sonic 3&K level design but with even less platforming
I’ll give Arzest one thing is that in being developers that just do very basic platforming DS shovelware
Giving them Sonic’s character controller + actual platforming and goofy gimmicks is a lot more fun than Mania’s design which I feel like I’m going through the motions through most of it
still epoch
why do you hate me
torn trench
I’m ngl I haven’t had the inkling to touch superstars in months, idk why
The game just doesn’t appeal to me ig
stiff salmon
oops
silent haven
game professionally designed to leave a bad taste in your mouth after beating it
stiff salmon
cunning echo
the model edit is real...
stiff salmon
brace yourself.
raw osprey
isnt this how it always was
stiff salmon
uhh
raw osprey
im pretty sure the only time his quills was combed back and not making star shaped silhouette was unironically in crosswolds box art
loud zinc
What channel / server was this shared in
stiff salmon
What channel / server was this shared in
my personal one
loud zinc
That means that this knuckles also is post change if I am reading this correctly
stiff salmon
yea
cunning echo
Are you guys talking about the grin?
I'm pretty sure it has appeared in some renders
wide portal
that state of play better be earlier than we thought we’re spiralling into even weirder conspiracies than before
stiff salmon
<:vectorRunners:712534038983868416>
this is next week btw
not week of the 5th
next week
cunning echo
just saw another known tuber commenting on sonic eclipse leak 
man
kill sonic eclipse
still epoch
u mean penny
cunning echo
nah
still epoch
she doesnt believe it for a second
wide portal
Snapcube
cunning echo
ah
wide portal
state of play save me. save me state of play
still epoch
dont think it will have sonic
cunning echo
I do believe
silent haven
always bet on nothing
wide portal
dont think it will have sonic
This isn’t even just for sonic I need news on danganronpa 2x2
direct partner showcase save me. save me direct partner showcase
zinc spear
yknow what I always wanted a sonic coffee making sim
lunar trench
Imagine a like an overcooked kinda game in 2d with the very cute artstyle they use for their cafés
lunar trench
Who knows
dawn pumice
Imagine a like an overcooked kinda game in 2d with the very cute artstyle they u...
Yo
That sounds so fire
Overcooked but sonic
Maybe going through a mini obstacle course to get to the other side
modest parcel
Ur racing-pilled
Wait wait I can bring u back around
Bc when I hear Sonic Cup
I think competition
And what else has competitions hmmm