lets just sit and wait oke
#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation
cunning echo
past matrix
idk why this is killing me
cunning echo
LOL
cunning echo
3 days should be enough
fossil echo
we were literally talking about tc lore of that fellow a few days ago lmaoooo
past matrix
The function is shutting down on my tl
fossil echo
never let them steer you away from your gut king
also powy is making some really funny posts rn
fossil echo
she sound like she boutta execute someone
sick bobcat
State of Play and Central for Sonic next year
past matrix
Honestly
silent haven
past matrix
Oh FUCKLMAOOO
dawn pumice
Sonic leakers really need to stfu 😭
wide portal
it was like a million jinxes all at once
grand cobalt
actually this still isn't justified because it was about spam 
fossil echo
😭 😭 😭
grand cobalt
but yea go off it wasn't there
raw osprey
https://x.com/p0wyful/status/1999312025655345439
ofc you are
fossil echo
apparently the person she's talking about is the og that had the crossworld doc leak
the person who obtained it
fossil echo
oh boy
cunning echo
my face when the same person that go lucky giving info aint gonna be reliable all the time
raw osprey
WHY ARE WE POSTING HER HERE
cunning echo
cuz its funny
raw osprey
SHE DID NOT LEAK ANYTHING BRO
cunning echo
😭
grand cobalt
im glad this is blowing up in """""leakers""""" faces
raw osprey
SHES A FRAUD
grand cobalt
this is hilarious
cunning echo
SHES A FRAUD
we know
fossil echo
WHY ARE WE POSTING HER HERE
fraud laps
cunning echo
thats why we post
sick bobcat
Iizuka falling asleep at TGA was the biggest clue Sonic was not getting a reveal trailer
raw osprey
STOP CALLING HER LEGENDARY
grand cobalt
legendary fraud
raw osprey
JUST BECAUSE SHE LEAKED WITH MIDORI THE BEST FRAUD OF ALL TIME
frosty sequoia
Rip
cunning echo
STOP CALLING HER LEGENDARY
who the hell did that bruh
fossil echo
midori, powy and zippo locked in a room who wins
raw osprey
well midori was a fraud but his leaks were true
cunning echo
midori sitting outside of sega offices
past matrix
fossil echo
oh my god bruh
cunning echo
it gets funnier
past matrix
what the fuck else do I really have, sure. Fine. Let me see the lying chronicles.
cunning echo
I think most people didnt see the total war email
raw osprey
omg she jsut goes bat shit crazy
past matrix
wide portal
it gets funnier
This was a genuinely bad post from Sega tho
do they not have a Total War YT acc
fossil echo
hilarious night
wide portal
idk plug 😭
People expected a followup to the 2023 trailer tho
cunning echo
I did expected jsr
grand cobalt
X
cunning echo
but idk
grand cobalt
im dying man
cunning echo
the super game stuff is just so weird
past matrix
I should’ve known not to put my trust into people my own age
wide portal
The source was fucking compromised 😭
fossil echo
agenda posting died tonight
cunning echo
https://x.com/p0wyful/status/1999331390622707880?s=20
informant woke up silly for the past 5 months
wide portal
THEY GOT FUCKING EVERYBODY
fossil echo
I hope whatever she has tomorrow is as funny as the ai "leak"
grand cobalt
https://x.com/p0wyful/status/1999331390622707880?s=20
“haha” oh they are all the way fucked up lmao
cunning echo
it started with superstars...
mint umbra
The most exciting part of the leakers being entirely wrong is that now we have no reason to believe the model is changing!!!
wide portal
The most exciting part of the leakers being entirely wrong is that now we have n...
fym exciting do you know how bad this is going to be for my timeline
mint umbra
50 more years of
fossil echo
grand cobalt
The most exciting part of the leakers being entirely wrong is that now we have n...
ALWAYS BET ON NOTHINGGG
whr in the
mint umbra
I DID NOT MEAN TO SEND THAT O ACCIDENTALLY CLOCKED ON THE WRONG THING
wide portal
always bet on no gifs working
mint umbra
😭
past matrix
I fucking endured 2 MONTHS of…Jujutsu laughing gif’s by individuals thinking they were in a secret society of game information.
raw osprey
https://x.com/p0wyful/status/1999331390622707880?s=20
this is literally her rn crying
cunning echo
https://x.com/TailsGuy92/status/1999326697351475600?s=20
i didnt know this
grand cobalt
old news
cunning echo
I didnt know!!
grand cobalt
old news!!!!
fossil echo
I fucking endured 2 MONTHS of…Jujutsu laughing gif’s by individuals thinking the...
extend the mute duration for every alan bowe gif
wide portal
CRYPTIC WEEKND POSTS
cunning echo
The most exciting part of the leakers being entirely wrong is that now we have n...
lets be honest, model change is prolly just gonna be a lost world to forces situation
small changes with the same style guide
cunning echo
when?
wide portal
KILL GEOFF KEIGHLEY
cunning echo
he reposted?
fossil echo
it was during the show
forest fractal
When the preshow ended
wide portal
RARRUGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
fossil echo
they reran the trailer
cunning echo
oh oke
fossil echo
but with no sonic
raw osprey
https://vxtwitter.com/zxnoshima/status/1999324121600262636?s=20 ok i dont think we need to doomposting so much already
vxTwitter / fixvx
wide portal
https://vxtwitter.com/zxnoshima/status/1999324121600262636?s=20 ok i dont think ...
bekoh people were already doing warm ups in the possibility that the model didn’t change
past matrix
I NOTICED IT OFF THE BAT
forest fractal
https://vxtwitter.com/zxnoshima/status/1999324121600262636?s=20 ok i dont think ...
This dude loves to hate bait it ain’t that serious
cunning echo
yea
past matrix
This dude loves to hate bait it ain’t that serious
He’s a self hating black dude, that thinks he’s above other black dudes; he’s irrelevant.
dawn pumice
grand cobalt
sonic fans, welcome to hell
grand cobalt
enjoy your stay until they show something for the 35th
dawn pumice
But I did wanna drink tears 😭
grand cobalt
they going through it
nah they’re used to it
verbal tundra
https://vxtwitter.com/zxnoshima/status/1999324121600262636?s=20 ok i dont think ...
They anti black btw
wide portal
He’s a self hating black dude, that thinks he’s above other black dudes; he’s ir...
they definitely said some real stupid shit but they’re not anti-black
past matrix
they definitely said some real stupid shit but they’re not anti-black
Noted & considered.
Regardless, any outcome.
I can't stand his ass, personally.
safe hull
TGA had some really good announcements even if SEGA had like 0 presence
wide portal
Show was alright yeah
wise chasm
https://vxtwitter.com/zxnoshima/status/1999324121600262636?s=20 ok i dont think ...
bro should better start having the uncomfortable conversation on putting those fries in the bad
forest fractal
Talk to the Zik
safe hull
If Fiery whispered the words Tails Channel into Iizuka's ears, he would shiver in fear
forest fractal
He would prob be like how’s Matt doing
ember junco
Ig we know why nothing leaked
Bright side glass half full, we’re still eating with Crossworlds until the first big shows of next year
So hopefully it’s like a Shadow Gens thing where they just put off revealing it
cunning echo
crying
autumn yacht
so long as leak squad is in shambles
wide portal
Im gonna need somebody to drop sega server contents to even it out
smoky summit
Seeing a lot of people denouncing Sonic at TGA this year "oh I never bought into it"
Well, I bought into it and I still believe in the cause 
wide portal
There’s a second, secret game awards that actually has the trailer in it
Geoff hid coded messages within the Game Awards, every first letter of each individual sentence he says comes together to make up the address for the secret ceremony
raw osprey
i did not expect frontiers 2 but i atleast thought they gonna show title for next year and anniversary
but ig they wait for february and state of play
cunning echo
I expected something but not to the point to be hyped for it
wide portal
I expected just a game reveal,
with some Crossworlds news on top at absolute max
I didn’t expect any definitive anniversary news because they’d probably save that for said anniversary
cunning echo
I knew crossworld wasn't gonna be anyways
They made a huge announcement in the state of play
There just wasn't anything else to share
Is why I thought a mainline could be announced
Cuz it felt like they were leaving space for something
smoky summit
I expected the next mainline game and I expected it to absolutely not be "Frontier 2"
I trust in Iizuka
He will name it something better
cunning echo
Who said that 😭
cunning echo
I also don't think they just left last minute
smoky summit
I don't think they left last minute, I think they made a "misguided call cause they are cheap"
cunning echo
Makes me think that once that crossworld state of play was out, they were done for this year as a whole sonic wise
smoky summit
But hey
cunning echo
But
smoky summit
They foreshadowed Megaman lmao
wide portal
They foreshadowed Megaman lmao
did they know
smoky summit
They knew
cunning echo
Maybe state of play fits their schedule more
grand cobalt
there’s a lesson to learn from all this
cunning echo
there’s a lesson to learn from all this
Always check your sources 😭
grand cobalt
uhh not sure if that’s the one
but my brain is too fried to come up with the actual answer
cunning echo
I do been thinking maybe sonic team or Sega has been handling leaks or "insider" stuff better
Because superstars never leaked
Like ever
0
Crossworld had like a 4chan post but outside of that, nothing?
cunning echo
Yeah
raw osprey
crossworlds on the other hand..................
dawn pumice
I’m happy with my life now
cunning echo
What happened
cunning echo
crossworlds on the other hand..................
Ye?
cunning echo
Just left the mixer
Damn
cunning echo
Crossworlds had that whole ass Minecraft and Nickelodeon leak back in like May
Yeah but pre announcement I mean
There wasn't anything
Aside from the yaoi leak
modest parcel
Fiery W
cunning echo
As for superstars
Everyone was surprised
Even Iizuka being happy it didn't leak 😭
So maybe something has changed
wide portal
I mean it’s not like leaks don’t happen outright but the circumstances are different
With frontiers we only started finding its leaked after we got that first teaser from the central
wide portal
I don’t think the 4chan for Crossworlds circled until like after the first trailer
forest fractal
Shadow gens also didn't leak per say iirc
We got a riddle ass leak tf you mean
wide portal
the Crossworlds stuff with SpongeBob mainly happened thanks to Paramount security issues I believe actually?
because they had been having leak issues too and all of the files were centralized around their side of the season pass
cunning echo
Yes
That leak was lol
Not because of the crossworld stuff
But because there were fake leakers saying it was more than crossworld
I wouldn't be surprised if someone used that to it's advantage to become a fake insider
Hmmmmm
wide portal
So I wouldn’t say SEGA’s security has “gotten better” per say, it’s just that it’s been a lot harder to find accurate information before the news drops
wide portal
so statistically speaking, somebody has definitely spilled the beans (info wise at least), we just don’t know who or where
cunning echo
January central?
forest fractal
Summer Game Fest is the safer bet
A central will happen after that to tease more and all the merch mobile slop
wide portal
lowkey
December/January Central with a mysterious CG trailer —> gameplay reveal at State of Play —> demo at SGF
cunning echo
God I hope not
No mysterious trailer please
At least make something like shadow gens announcement with small gameplay stuff
ember junco
Im ok with a tiny teaser
As long as it has some meat on the bones
Like smth to talk about
No Sonic running in the woods with a Zap kinda thing
cunning echo
Yeah exactly
Just CGI and small no UI gameplay
Even if it's just sonic boosting and homing attack
raw osprey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS9YAiD9EP8 what if we gonna get something like this
autumn yacht
via ign again too
hybrid hill
idk why this is killing me
coarse ferry
Honestly even if sonic not shown, SEGA not showing anything else besides total wars that is getting tease constantly is a massive dissapointment
It just felt distraught after with 2024
pulsar horizon
coarse ferry
My guess is that they are not ready to show it
coarse ferry
I had to go to bed immediately so I missed the discussion 💀 💀
pulsar horizon
coarse ferry
oh wait I just realize this after someone bringing this up in another server
I think the reason with SEGA is also due to how the money is cost when it comes to showing trailer
Like wasn't there a source about it?
pulsar horizon
Like wasn't there a source about it?
X
coarse ferry
......yeah that checks out
So SEGA probably think it's not worth showing sonic just for that kind of money
pulsar horizon
Not worth $1M for a teaser ngl
coarse ferry
yeah
strange estuary
Plug, Nero and Freeze sold my soul, and for what... Just a whole load of baloney
wise chasm
a 3-minute trailer is actually a pretty long trailer when you think about it
still epoch
Plug, Nero and Freeze sold my soul, and for what... Just a whole load of baloney
Wait plug isnt away too right
still epoch
a 3-minute trailer is actually a pretty long trailer when you think about it
Yea it is
strange estuary
Wait plug isnt away too right
What do you mean by that?
still epoch
What do you mean by that?
strange estuary
verbal tundra
strange estuary
Can I talk about Sonic here instead
coarse ferry
Yeah
strange estuary
sonic-lobby is too distracted with Megaman
So
When do y'all wager we're actually gonna see some bigs news?
I've heard a lot of people say around February
coarse ferry
Feb is most likely since that’s when they start showing the roadmap
silent haven
strange estuary
Well, damn
grand cobalt
squawk what a twist
raw osprey
When do y'all wager we're actually gonna see some bigs news?
february probably
still epoch
April
strange estuary
Hmm
stiff salmon
The source behind Sonic showing up... was Pyoro?
WHAT
cunning echo
When do y'all wager we're actually gonna see some bigs news?
January
Just like crossworld and shadow gens
hybrid hill
https://x.com/AllCristina2/status/1999481653971026025?s=20
I’m pretty sure that is fake too
silent haven
it's alllllllllllllllllll fake
hybrid hill
I’m pretty sure that is fake too
There was no substantial proof that Pyo was even involved lol
strange estuary
I don't remember both these games being revealed in January
cunning echo
I don't remember both these games being revealed in January
It was late January almost February
cunning echo
There was no substantial proof that Pyo was even involved lol
How so
I'm confused with that pyoro thing
Cuz Pyoro has been dead for a while
hybrid hill
No that’s the thing
He’s been dead
People were claiming that they’ve reached out to pyoro but like no evidence 😭
cunning echo
💀
hybrid hill
#KillAllFakeLeakers
hybrid hill
THIS HAS TO HAPPEN
dusty osprey
has to
autumn yacht
All his videos are him just looking at tweets
not bad for near 700 views if you think about it
dawn pumice
https://x.com/AllCristina2/status/1999481653971026025?s=20
Wow
dawn pumice
They didn’t have to out a source 😭
sick hollow
THIS HAS TO HAPPEN
Big Oof. Predictions are risky business Juicy...
grand cobalt
They didn’t have to out a source 😭
does it matter atp
cunning echo
I think they just had enough
All this secretive thing with vague poster "leakers" out of nowhere
dawn pumice
I’ll explain my thoughts in a sec
wide portal
Plug, Nero and Freeze sold my soul, and for what... Just a whole load of baloney
no that was just me but it’s okay I took care of it
past matrix
All this secretive thing with vague poster "leakers" out of nowhere
That's what I'm seeing with some of the people that were in the 'know'.
Just dropping the curtain entirely
modest parcel
https://vxtwitter.com/allcristina2/status/1999340651356332182?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB...
This needs to be said in here:
X
strange estuary
Lol
still epoch
People are pissed and all they did was run with assumptions
strange estuary
It's fine, they'll get over it soon enough
past matrix
Regardless, 35th anniversary year is a few days away; I'm sure as we enter 2026, news or probably an sonic central will establish the ground floor and set some things to look forward to.
stiff salmon
Regardless, 35th anniversary year is a few days away; I'm sure as we enter 2026,...
im thinking central is imminent
i dont think they wait for february
past matrix
Yeah, I don't think it'll be to far away.
This feels half dedicated to the industry, and half dedicated to the fans riled up by sonic's absence in terms of wording.
wide portal
I know Katie was in those offices seeing all the excited posts for sonic at TGA trying not to laugh
grand cobalt
i appreciate katie for saying that but a lot of fans rn won't really care because they're stuck in "BUT I WANT IT NOW" mode
raw osprey
acting like we didnt get crossworlds 2 months ago
autumn yacht
raw osprey
acting like we didnt get crossworlds 2 months ago
understand that people hate current model and frontiers 2 is chance to change it but jesus some people actually just this
like we got a great game 2 months ago that updates every 2 weeks you can wait a bit its not gonna kill you
past matrix
acting like we didnt get crossworlds 2 months ago
That's the thing that's getting me
Like, I'm not absolved from being pissy last night; mostly more so mad for being up so late for putting my belief into something that was pushed as a 'def gonna happen' thing.
But to throw sonic's whole very solid year away, because we didn't get this 'world changing trailer' for the next game is just childish.
It's not like the game is NEVER gonna come out.
wide portal
Justin if you try to rationalize agenda posting you’ll just get a headache
You can’t request for the atmosphere on sonictwt to be better, that’s sacrilegious and also “not that deep dawg”
cunning echo
Tbh
Crossworld even if its better thank mkworld
It just didn't have a chance lmao
Just by name Mario Kart is Mario Kart
grand cobalt
davih you might be the king of saying things in hindsight
cunning echo
😭
I would say something that doesn't give much favor to crossworld is the way it looks
grand cobalt
Almost every normie I’ve seen play the game says it looks “gorgeous” so idk about that
Unless you mean something else
cunning echo
The game looks good
But also bad
You have e stadium that looks amazing and then you have seaside hill
grand cobalt
yeah but my point is that they don't really care about that for it to be an actual point against it
cunning echo
Ehhh
grand cobalt
can you prove me wrong 😭
cunning echo
The way something looks can affect an experience
grand cobalt
yeah, but again
most normal people think the game looks really nice visually
not better than mario kart ofc, but the general consensus is always going to be "yeah this is a great looking game" and not have the sonic fan-isms of "well a lot of the stages look good but seaside hill and apotos are washed out"
cunning echo
past matrix
That street fighter trailer been in my head all day.
In a world of dry ass trailers, I forgot that they could have a semblance of personality sometimes.
This isn't the lobby 😕
Why does this keep happening.
smoky summit
most normal people think the game looks really nice visually
not better than ma...
Why do you say ofc
🤔
dusty osprey
Just by name Mario Kart is Mario Kart
I think thats bad actually but
You right because the voting block is game journalists
cunning echo
We also don't know how the process for winners go
They prolly don't even play all the games there
It could just one that played saying that one was the best of all and they all agree
Sometimes it can be like that
dusty osprey
They prolly don't even play all the games there
Oh we know that
They dont
Well the dont have to
cunning echo
It could just one that played saying that one was the best of all and they all a...
I think is just like this
raw osprey
I would say something that doesn't give much favor to crossworld is the way it l...
i think even normies agree that cw looks good so i dont think it was a factor
dusty osprey
Iirc the noms are made up by the voting block. By sheer numbers i imagine alot of have not played every nommed game in every category.
That said i do think a bunch of em problably played crossworlds. However crossworlds is sonic and also a racing game. And simular to fighting games and its categories my expectations are low
dawn pumice
https://vxtwitter.com/Kafonn_/status/1999511763037929720?s=20 basically this
Can confirm
Everyone groaned when Mario kart won
dusty osprey
Racing games is another nichie that kinda glossed over by journalists. Its not a sifu in the fighting games category bad. But "i know mario kart, it was fine" and that being it is what problably happened
cunning echo
Damn dexerto
dusty osprey
Im not expecting variety to appreciate segaAM2 Working on a racer again, ya know
prime hearth
have we considered that differences in opinion simply exist lmao
like
people can prefer MKW over CW, its okay, we'll live
grand cobalt
no
prime hearth
hell, I know peeps who think that way after trying both - I love CW to death but its not for everyone
its got the same kinda thing as kirb air riders where its absolutely too overstimulating for some folks
dawn pumice
Everyone groaned when Mario kart won
One thing too
Everyone
Freaked the fuck out over that anime horse racing game
😭 😭 😭
cunning echo
dawn pumice
And I can say for one thing
Control, KOTOR, and Megaman made everyone freak the fuck out
prime hearth
as kart racer aficionados its clear to me both kirb and sonc beat out MKW, but from a casual perspective MK is still the top dog - I can simply hand my mum a joycon with the assist modes turned on and she can do fairly decent, whereas with CW and kirb thats not as possible
(it doesn't help that the assist modes in CW straight up do not work lmao)
grand cobalt
i feel like the gap between CW and Air Riders in terms of accessibility is pretty big but i see what you’re saying 😭
grand cobalt
Control, KOTOR, and Megaman made everyone freak the fuck out
i know nothing about control but that presentation was fucking crazy
dawn pumice
Control is such an amazing game
My friend was lowkey tearing up cuz he got surprised by it
And it’s one of his favorite games
Also I met with a ton of the people who made that final game announcement
Insanely nice people
cunning echo
Control is amazing
prime hearth
i feel like the gap between CW and Air Riders in terms of accessibility is prett...
air riders is funky cos from a controls perspective its absolutely more approachable, no need to accelerate and there's two buttons (only one of which you need to press on the regular) so from that angle mum does fine on it
prime hearth
but man is there so much stuff going on at all times onscreen it is an overstimulation nightmare lmao
dawn pumice
Also met the insomniac community manager as well
wise chasm
Control, KOTOR, and Megaman made everyone freak the fuck out
- *FOTOR
- I get it, but also apparently they have nothing else for the game according to Schreier (as in, "maybe it'll release by PS7" nothing)
dawn pumice
HOLY FUCK NO SHOT 😭 😭 😭
Has to be like 2028
2030 for optimistic is absolutely crazy
wise chasm
Bro they are not making a game in 3 years
dawn pumice
Bro they are not making a game in 3 years
Let me hope that they had this at least 1 year in dev before they fully formed
wise chasm
There's a lot of funny things happening with some announcements
FOTOR has nothing and probably won't have anything for a while, Megaman is releasing on PS4 in 2027
modest parcel
https://tenor.com/view/baby-laugh-ai-baby-babyfryingme-baby-sob-folk-gif-1822193...
AI ew ew
grand cobalt
ethical son
strange estuary
You have e stadium that looks amazing and then you have seaside hill
Excuse me?
cunning echo
Bless you
strange estuary
Sonic can surpass by heart, but it has to be official
We want to leave that plumber behind in the dust
past matrix
Gonna take a few more years for that
But if SEGA keeps up the maintenance, I think it'll come steady
coarse ferry
Control, KOTOR, and Megaman made everyone freak the fuck out
HELL YEAH!
Dude I’m so happy the uproar over kotor is very positive
smoky summit
Btw did anyone check 4chan yesterday cause the period during big events tends to be some time where people start remembering to leak things
wide portal
streaming the game awards and scrolling 4chan at the same time sounds like a very easy way to speedrun cancer
strange estuary
I was just like Iizuka while the event was going on
I don't think anyone checked
hasty plume
FOTOR has nothing and probably won't have anything for a while, Megaman is relea...
according to Jason schrier(very reputable journalist, 100% track rate, was literally the guy to break the news on Activision being so shitty a few years back)
he said 2030
safe hull
Oh yea @dawn pumice how was the audience reaction to Divinity
dawn pumice
They were just making fun of the dragon having sex
modest parcel
LMAO
dawn pumice
Lot of “WOAHS”
modest parcel
dawn pumice
Also everytime Fortnite or epic got mentioned
One person just screamed Fortnite
And Fortnite sex
safe hull
They were just making fun of the dragon having sex
lmao
It was fuckin weenie hut jrs in here, dude thought the satanic panic of rock n roll music was gonna start next with how people were lmaooo
modest parcel
"Wtf is wrong with you" - Drewcifer after the mauling of flesh and blood ripping from bones and the bodily fluids spew makes a few people dry heave
past matrix
They were just making fun of the dragon having sex
Wait
There was a dragon having sex
modest parcel
You missed it?
past matrix
HOW DID I MISS THAT?
modest parcel
😭
past matrix
I saw implied sex, like I saw someone's back bouncing in a very "Yeah, that's intercourse" implication
I DIDN'T KNOW BARNEY WAS GETTING IT IN
Now I gotta go back and see
wide portal
Now I gotta go back and see
“Oh my god that’s disgusting, where”
modest parcel
Yeah I'll try to remind people they gotta lock in to get over their pussy natural responses to gore next time
I gotta lead a better example as a part of society
prime hearth
I feel there are probably more reliable and efficient ways to see dragon sex than the game awards but you do you I guess
miss piggy sex, on the other hand-
strange estuary
What even was that segment supposed to be about? There's no way the game is anything about dragon intercourse and brutally torturing people
dusty osprey
What even was that segment supposed to be about? There's no way the game is anyt...
Setting a tone
pulsar horizon
miss piggy sex, on the other hand-
I still don’t understand how Disney approved that 💀
past matrix
Mf’s in that “knower” circle that feel dooped saying they’re tempted or thinking about exposing the dm’s with their plug of information for the past few months- You ain’t gotta get fucking shot in your apartment by a sega agent, SHOW THE SHIT.
I wanna see what the fuck was said to have these people rave about it in secrecy, so that I can be petty.
dusty osprey
I still don’t understand how Disney approved that 💀
Muppets always been like that
prime hearth
Mf’s in that “knower” circle that feel dooped saying they’re tempted or thinking...
would a sega agent popping a cap in them be a real net loss to society really
would they actually be missed
I'm leaning towards "fuck no good riddance" frankly lol
strange estuary
silent haven
modest parcel
cunning echo
I still don’t understand how Disney approved that 💀
Geoff gotta be the only person that reminds them they own the muppets
verbal tundra
Geoff the only person keeping the muppets relevant btw
Guaranteed muppet content every year cuz of him
cunning echo
Muppets fans eating good every year with game awards
forest fractal
Keeping Muppets relevant by implying Geoff fucked Miss Piggy… is it worth it?
strange estuary
No
verbal tundra
Yes
modest parcel
No
strange estuary
What?
cunning echo
strange estuary
Okay Davih
prime hearth
https://tenor.com/view/muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-muppet-muppets-flashdance-gif-1755...
Geoff in the green room:
forest fractal
What
rocky leaf
has kermit seriously not gotten back with miss piggy yet, I keep seeing this mentioned
did they honestly forget to solve that plot point before the previous show was canned lol
rocky leaf
sure, I just expected them to have mentioned at some point "kermit is back with miss piggy"
forest fractal
The divorce must be brutal
rocky leaf
not still with the new character that just looked like miss piggy with black hair because he's got a type lol
forest fractal
Reminds of the sequel of the Zootopia abortion comic
rocky leaf
the one where judy gets with a fox girl?
forest fractal
Ya
prime hearth
sure, I just expected them to have mentioned at some point "kermit is back with ...
Geoff excising any mention of Kermit from the TGA script to maintain his own fantasy
zinc spear
The divorce must be brutal
Hmmmm well she is called MISS piggy
delicate gyro
This will be Mario in 2011
pulsar horizon
Ok now I know that’s bs https://x.com/mytimetoshineh/status/1999646369645002901?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ
X
They have so many characters to introduce if that’s the case
lunar trench
past matrix
The main and only way you can probably pull this off is if you introduce Big and Cream in conjuction with Amy as new supporting cast members in sonic 4'.
And if the shadow spinoff stands true, you have Rouge & Omega introduced as his own supporting cast.
Chaotix, I don't fuckin know'.
But regardless, not putting much stake into whatever the fuck this guy and Daniel yap about.
All this talk, and I just want to know when filming starts for 4.
coarse ferry
Yeah not happening
forest fractal
Heroes could be considered an event film
autumn yacht
strange estuary
That seems plausible to me
pulsar horizon
Yeah but they would need to introduce
Big
Cream and Cheese
Vector
Charmy
Espio
Rouge
Omega
Unless Sonic 4 is introducing them all
modest parcel
I think an adventure movie makes more sense
But at the same time a “sonic universe event movie” might as well follow the formula of either games for their own storyline
silent haven
Yeah but they would need to introduce
Big
Cream and Cheese
Vector
Charmy
Espi...
i don't really buy a rumor from some random twitter account but there's no reason they have to introduce all of them
just like how they didn't have to introduce rouge and amy for the sa2 adaptation
wide portal
Ok now I know that’s bs https://x.com/mytimetoshineh/status/1999646369645002901?...
boooooooooooo
too obvious of a fake, you gotta try harder mtosh
cunning echo
Yeah but they would need to introduce
Big
Cream and Cheese
Vector
Charmy
Espi...
not necessarily
forest fractal
Yeah but they would need to introduce
Big
Cream and Cheese
Vector
Charmy
Espi...
I think expecting all those characters is silly because the movies will just do its own thing (and it’ll be worse for it but whatever)
strange estuary
Yeah but they would need to introduce
Big
Cream and Cheese
Vector
Charmy
Espi...
Would they?
That's like saying Sonic 3 needed to introduce Rouge and Amy along with the rest of the cast
They've already established how the movie franchise won't follow by the game's rules, I personally don't see why they couldn't do it
But with that being said, I don't think they're adapting Heroes for the event film... as much as I would like that
fossil echo
They can do a heroes movie, it just won't be strictly heroes
cunning echo
They don't need all these characters
fossil echo
Lowkey I think its going to be movie 4 and the heroes part is mostly metal sonic to neo metal
cunning echo
They just use the same plot as heroes with metal sonic becoming overlord and blah blah
coarse ferry
Literally the main point of Heroes if they are going to implement the story is both Neo metal and Shadow being alive
That's about it
cunning echo
Ye
coarse ferry
Only one that might get screwed is Chaotix due to being introduced
cunning echo
Sonic movies are prolly gonna end without most characters we see in heroes
coarse ferry
Cream and Chocola served no purpose if no proper chao appearance
cunning echo
Think it will just end with silver
fossil echo
Literally the main point of Heroes if they are going to implement the story is b...
Yeah and they already did shadow's teaser in movie 3's second end credit scene
So there's precedent
fossil echo
They could actually just like split off that part of heroes into a shadow spinoff movie
cunning echo
Sonic movies are prolly gonna end without most characters we see in heroes
Unless they do an avengers 😭
fossil echo
Like shadow 05 and team dark heroes campaign into one
cunning echo
But the only way I see that is 4 being divided into 2 movies
fossil echo
Manifesting sonic 4 episode 1 and 2
cunning echo
I am
I think by the time movie 4 comes out people will start getting a little tired
It happened with transformers
strange estuary
Tired? Of what?
cunning echo
I remember when I went to watch the last Bay Transformers and after the last scene everyone in the theater were like "omgg bruh another?"
😭
It was so funny
fossil echo
Its always tired after 3
You got a neat little trilogy and then the part where they want more money
cunning echo
The best they can do is just split the 4 plot into 2 and then just reset this whole franchise
Maybe we can get animated this time 🙏
prime hearth
I think they’ll do heroes eventually but not as a side-movie, it’ll be movie 5 or 6 or summat
(if not directly here in 4, given that’s the obvious way to round off a movie with metal)
how do you single out The metal sonic in an army of metal sonics? If he’s Neo
strange estuary
I don't know if I'll be counting 4 as a Heroes movie purely for having Neo Metal
prime hearth
easy peasy
strange estuary
I want to see if they'll bring other elements from the game to the movie
cunning echo
how do you single out The metal sonic in an army of metal sonics? If he’s Neo
Also doing a comeback would be kinda ehh
So is better for them to use it here
dusty osprey
i don't think a heroes movie is happening ( feel free to make fun of me i'm wrong ), there's other sonic movie titles that they can kinda mangle for audience reception
like i feel like personally they have done way more set up for a sonic adventure movie than a heroes one
so i figure that would happen
They don't gotta do heroes yet
autumn yacht
why would anyone even look to heroes
coarse ferry
Yeah I feel like an adventure movie is more likely than a heroes movie
strange estuary
why would anyone even look to heroes
They've referenced it quite a bunch...
autumn yacht
seaside hill?
dawn pumice
I honestly think a heroes movie is the next one?
Ya it’ll prob be botched but if they’re going through with metal, neo metal makes sense as a post credit
untold kayak
I mean
it isn't like Heroes is the most complicated narrative ever
sa2 has more going on thematically and narratively than heroes does
dawn pumice
They can dumb it down easily imo
It’ll prob be like 3 separate stories
Team Sonic
Team Dark
Team Rose
Oh and Team Tom
dawn pumice
A) if they include cream and big in the 4th movie
B) it’s silver and blaze
C) human character pairings
coarse ferry
oh hmm.....
prime hearth
hrmmm I dunno if they're gonna do allat lol
I think they're gonna try making 4 a blend of both CD and Heroes, taking the time travel from CD and some of the iconography from Heroes (mostly Neo)
untold kayak
I don't think you really need the teams for heroes. I personally think that, even if simple, Heroes is kind of overbloated plotwise
coarse ferry
Yeah I feel like when it comes to heroes is may not happend due to both shadow and the purpose of neo metal sonic
untold kayak
you only really need team sonic's story and team chaotix's story
team rose is more so a compliment of team sonic's
and team dark's isn't even resolved in that game
prime hearth
the teams are very much a videogame structural thing more than like
a movie structured thing lol
coarse ferry
I feel like if they are going to implement a game into sonic movie it'll be: Adventure, 06, Unleashed, Colors, Forces, and Frontiers imho
But other than that yeah
untold kayak
the teams are very much a videogame structural thing more than like
Yeah
prime hearth
(especially since a big part of the teams in heroes is, to be blunt, playing the same zones four times lmao)
untold kayak
and team dark's isn't even resolved in that game
it's Shadow 05 which resolves the whole 'is Shadow real?'
coarse ferry
I feel like for Heroes your just better off using it mostly with neo metal sonic since that's the biggest appeal of the game story wise
strange estuary
I feel like if they are going to implement a game into sonic movie it'll be: Adv...
Colours? There's no way
coarse ferry
I guess space related?
pulsar horizon
I feel like if they are going to implement a game into sonic movie it'll be: Adv...
I’d kill for an Unleashed movie
past matrix
A heroes movie probably wouldn’t even be a sonic heroes movie
these films take influence from multiple projects/tend to go with a different take on the general plotline of everything
save for maybe sonic 3, which was the closest to home with the circumstances of the game; but still, creative liberties were still made.
dusty osprey
Yeah I feel like an adventure movie is more likely than a heroes movie
Too much echdina set up to not be that imo
coarse ferry
Especially with Longclaw
They can even expand more so with the Chaos energy too if you go by Shadow's origin
dusty osprey
Also sonic adventure sets up everything else
coarse ferry
I feel like Silver's purpose can easily work with the future being flooded in water while you hear a roar of Perfect Chaos
Can easily capatalize the "God of Destruction" very well
dusty osprey
I dont think silver needs to even be connected to all that
If he does get introduced
coarse ferry
Oh of course not
I am just going for examples
Since that's just Silver in a nutshell nowadays 💀
fossil echo
Im still kinda on this train of thought
There's just too much emphasis on unleashed lately
silent haven
don't do it man
we have seen this shit like 20 different times
'guys we HAVE to be getting adventure remakes, they just did a station square remix!!'
wise chasm
yeah, I feel like "there's too much emphasis on [insert anything here], it has to be this!" hasn't worked since 2017
fossil echo
Im more leaning to this than remaster cause of possible new elements like tori, maybe idw characters as npcs, and now im not so confident about the manga being its own thing anymore. They've got a suspicious amount of HD assets for unleashed in crossworlds, the 35th anniversary tagline is unlimited possibilities
Im not saying literally unleashed 2
wise chasm
ok but what does that mean
the whole "spiritual successor to Unleashed"
why did i ask
fossil echo
Im saying frontiers 2 but the story and stuff uses shit established in unleashed. Its pretty direct overall considering unleashed is kinda blueprint of open zone. Turn the hubs into bigger explorable areas and its open zone. Platforming, combat, puzzle, big lore story
Frontiers 2 but we go to spagonia or some shit
Instead of islands
wide portal
the world shatters into several pieces again
smoky summit
I'm gonna be so tired of people calling this Frontiers 2
I swear
Sega better know better
fossil echo
Its easy enough until we get a title drop
wide portal
Sonic Legends #trust
fossil echo
Cause like frontiers 2 as far as we know isn't going to literally be a direct follow-up unless they change their minds
So I dunno
smoky summit
Im saying frontiers 2 but the story and stuff uses shit established in unleashed...
You mean SA1 but yes
fossil echo
Open zone holoska ig
silent haven
Sonic Legends #trust
sega are going to abandon the series until sonic shows up in a crossover rpg with mario 5 years later ☹️
fossil echo
You mean SA1 but yes
I say unleashed mainly cause of the combat element
smoky summit
It would be cool if like
They do the rush adventure thing
But in Sonic's world
And using the tornado instead of sea travel
Like you can just roam around Sonic's world
But maybe that is too ambitious
fossil echo
It would be cool but yeah I dunno if they'd do that
smoky summit
Plus I feel like they'd focus on a more specific gimmick
Like the shifting terrain thing from the zoom leak
Which wouldn't jive well with that kind of scale
fossil echo
Im only calling frontiers unleashed bonanza if leaks are fake
Like if all the other 4chan leaks and stuff were all hogwash, this is the only other thing I think the game could be
smoky summit
I hope the game has good lighting
wise chasm
But maybe that is too ambitious
if it was like an FF overworld (or Clair Obscur if you want a more modern example), then maybe it would've worked
smoky summit
And good water
Yeah I guess that would be pretty easy
Although I still feel like travel should play more like a plane
Idk
past matrix
I want to run on water
smoky summit
Just feels more like Sonic's thing
smoky summit
I want to run on water
Ok Jesus
past matrix
I want to run on water
If sonic boom did it, we can do it better again
fossil echo
Wasn't that the travel system in RoL
smoky summit
if it was like an FF overworld (or Clair Obscur if you want a more modern exampl...
Cause like they straight up gave tails a plane lmao in the Frontiers dlc
wise chasm
I don't know if I want to have an overworld travel to be anything more than what the games I mentioned are doing
cuz if you add more mechanics, at that point it becomes a bit cumbersome
and yes, overly ambitious too, since that implies you also want full camera control
cunning echo
Im saying frontiers 2 but the story and stuff uses shit established in unleashed...
Frontiers uses stuff that is established in adventure 1 as some sort of indirect sequel so if they are going to explore more about the chaos emeralds then using stuff Unleashed established would make sense
untold kayak
The Gaia need some expansion tbh
Compared to other cultures in the franchise
They're the most barebones
So adding more of how they worked both as a culture and in terms of the emeralds would be a good idea
cunning echo
Not to mention that pre frontiers there were also a lot of adventure references and stuff
even sonic running animation in the first teaser was referencing adventure 1 lmao
so maybe
only thing is that I dont see them doing some sort of world adventure again
I think is going to be some sort of island just like frontiers explaining where chaos came from
modest parcel
If the next Sonic game is just relitigating even more lore rather than doing something completely new, man
untold kayak
I mean, You can do both
dawn pumice
^^^
untold kayak
Frontiers did that
dawn pumice
I kinda want my lore ngl
I’m sorta sick of sonic being a simple Saturday morning adventure
untold kayak
It used the echidnas as a base to Jump into the lore of the Ancients
modest parcel
Frontiers did that
Barely
dawn pumice
Back to the status quo n shit
modest parcel
It was mostly new stuff
smoky summit
I do get worried sometimes that like
coarse ferry
There's just too much emphasis on unleashed lately
I brought this up earlier during #sonic-lobby
smoky summit
Sonic Team will unironically get pressured to play it safe
untold kayak
And I don't think it is a bad idea to have lore related to a past Adventure if the narrative throughline to get it is new
smoky summit
And just make a game very similar to Frontiers
coarse ferry
Where I notice that we've gotten so many Unleashed content lately. I feel like with this next game we may have something to do with Unleashed connection like of course with Gaia Temples
I feel like Gaia Temple is just enough to get any some sort of callback when it comes to unleashed
coarse ferry
I mean I won't argue there won't be an unleashed remaster lmao
modest parcel
Sonic X Tails Unleashed will be real
coarse ferry
To me I feel like we'll get more than just that
cunning echo
Sonic X Tails Unleashed will be real
Nuh uh
modest parcel
Erm
modest parcel
Wait
hybrid hill
Im more leaning to this than remaster cause of possible new elements like tori, ...
dudeee
maybe in another life…
modest parcel
.... hold on....
hybrid hill
you could make a fire 4chan leak 
modest parcel
I think it's funny that the sentiment is flaring up because of the manga though
And one fan's agenda
wide portal
Don’t turn to evil Kit
cunning echo
isnt the manga non canon anyways
wide portal
To Ian Flynnize it
what
hybrid hill
They got JP Ian Flynn over there
wide portal
isnt the manga non canon anyways
tbh I don’t think Chris ever said that blatantly
modest parcel
They got JP Ian Flynn over there
Imada... you know what to do./...
hybrid hill
They got JP Ian Flynn over there
Iannu Flynnu 🇯🇵
wise chasm
I think it's funny that the sentiment is flaring up because of the manga though
I dunno, all I saw was people liking that lady very much
coarse ferry
Oh yeah that. People bringing that up and assume it's unleashed reference 💀
wise chasm
The Unleashed agenda pushers existed for a while now and I don't think the mango is adding that much fuel to it
modest parcel
AW AW AWOOOOO
coarse ferry
Like that one is by far the most reaching since they have already done sun/moon themed before unleashed exist
But hey I guess I'll let the fandom ignore Knuckles
¯_(ツ)_/¯
modest parcel
X
smoky summit
I would be surprised if any of this is related
coarse ferry
Yeah this one is just reaching 💀
wise chasm
Pokemon Sun and Moon is actually a reference to Sonic Unleashed
smoky summit
I feel like this will be its own lore that will just take nods from what the games did
But with new characters and locations etc.
wise chasm
a day/night cycle in real life is also actually a reference to how there's sun medals and moon medals in sonic unleashed
lavish iron
https://x.com/SonicLorepost/status/2000241690297421870?s=20
Does she have something to do with the Gaias?
coarse ferry
Does she have something to do with the Gaias?
Pretty sure she isn't
modest parcel
But what if she did
untold kayak
Her kingdom is in proximity with Spagonia
But thats about it
From there, it seems to be based out of Aztec lore and such
modest parcel
She's actually related to the Knuckles tribe
She's the one that gave the name the Knuckles tribe
Because of their Knuckles
modest parcel
Hold on that's a different demand
cunning echo
modest parcel
She personally enlisted the knuckles tribe as a working class for the aristocracy of Athel
smoky summit
The Sonic Adventure influence on the future low-key be crazy
modest parcel
Soon the people became discontent with their treatment
And rose up against the society that was clearly taking advantage of them
smoky summit
Cause for the longest time Sonic Team's intent was to just make new stories with tiny nods to older games
But the Sonic Adventure kinda became the foundation even towards games that don't necessarily relate to it
modest parcel
The war between the Athel tribe and the Knuckles tribe waged on, but eventually peace was brokered between the people
smoky summit
Human on Echidna action?
modest parcel
However, behind the scenes, a group of disgruntled echidnas and humans conspired together to bring back the division among the tribes
Through the treachery of this Shadow League, the great great ancestor of Tikal found himself ill, and blamed the betrothed husband of Metstli for his illness
modest parcel
Human on Echidna action?
With no choice left, they decided to solve their differences by promising a marriage between the tribes, in order to stave off the threat of war looming over their peoples
Thus, the Shadow League's treachery was foiled for the time, but it would not be the last they would see of their agenda...
untold kayak
🤯
autumn yacht
Sonic X Tails Unleashed will be real
another 6 bonus tornado stages
untold kayak
another 6 bonus tornado stages
autumn yacht
forest fractal
another 6 bonus tornado stages
WAITER WAITER MORE TORNADO DEFENSE
humble drum
Human on Echidna action?
cunning echo
oh my god 😭
fossil echo
nvm I misremembered
There was another tweet he made regarding the manga
The reason its non canon is apparently because its not distributed globally
Which is
Strange?
coarse ferry
I guess it's like IDW's situation only reversed?
fossil echo
Does it become canon when they release the English version? Does that count as "global"?
coarse ferry
I think from this direction in order to make it canon, they need to have both overseas and Japan access to it without trying to pirate
fossil echo
Perhaps its that
Its just odd he says its because of its distribution cause like the sonic channel stuff is canon despite not being available in English
But maybe its different cause its not paid media
coarse ferry
I feel like for Sonic channel stuff it's more just small bios
Whereas for both courage and IDW they are full fleshed stories
Not only that introducing chars
fossil echo
I feel like for Sonic channel stuff it's more just small bios
The small stories though like otherworldly comedy
And other stories of that type
Aren't some referenced in crossworlds
coarse ferry
For blade of courage? No
coarse ferry
Oh
fossil echo
That come with the arts
fossil echo
And they just put the blaze outfit in rumble
prime hearth
Sonic channel stories are at least available to all online via the website so there’s less of a barrier, just load up a translator and go
fossil echo
Yeah thats what I mean though,maybe the difference is that is that the manga isnt freely available
prime hearth
(also like, most sonic channel stories are just cute lil side-stories so less of a big impact compared to adventures with sword mommy)
yea I’d imagine that’s prolly it too, being limited to corocoro don’t help I’d imagine
fossil echo
Curious when they'll release the English version then
Since they did say theyre working on it
prime hearth
I could def see that changing whenever we get actual proper standalone manga releases tho yee
it’s sonic in the current year, publishers are prolly tripping up over themselves to get their hands on the English release rights lol
coarse ferry
I feel like it'll be taking a bit longer than IDW since I don't normally see mangas get localized
coarse ferry
Like translating for like multiple languages and such
prime hearth
on the contrary, I think idw is just really really slow at it lmao
look at how quickly dc went from the run of sonic x dc issues to getting the collected trades out
coarse ferry
Oh yeah true lmao
prime hearth
at a guess it’s an issue of manpower cos idw is a fraction of the size compared to dc but, still, never been the fastest have they
fossil echo
Like translating for like multiple languages and such
Ehhh, I dunno if theyre gonna do multiple languages off the bat
Primary focus is english
coarse ferry
fair and maybe that's probably it Jane. Because IDW has been dealing with constant delays and the negotiation probably caused IDW to be slowed down heavily in Japan. Maybe blades of courage won't that issue?
fossil echo
Release of a manga happens relatively quickly when they can put out full volumes of chapters and the manga in question seems to do well. Sonic does pretty well on corocoros sales
I believe blade of courage is going to start putting out its first volume soon
In Japan I mean
And then from there tl to eng
That being said, this is a rarity for corocoro
So we'll see how that goes
coarse ferry
yeah it could go either way
raw osprey
just check that thread ramona made(not gonna send it here yall know where to find it) and im crying why she conflicts herself 2 times in this thread
coarse ferry
Yeah I already knew what you are talking about (saw it in twitter too lmao)
raw osprey
saying that models in frontiers 2 is not gonna be that different
also says its gonna look like sonic channel artwork
also said they making new model with odyssey model approach
like girl did they gonna be the same or actually how sonic fans want them pick a struggle
stiff salmon
just check that thread ramona made(not gonna send it here yall know where to fin...
pass me rq
coarse ferry
Like I know Sonic fans are trying to expect something in TGA, but yo... what is she even saying!? lmao
stiff salmon
i gotta see ts for myself
coarse ferry
Guess Sonic fans are not used to how TGA works 💀
grand cobalt
who is it this time
silent haven
WHY ARE WE POSTING HER HERE
curious…
stiff salmon
oh no the render's good thank god
fossil echo
If he can look like this in game good enough ig
still epoch
Its just Very Good
fossil echo
I dont think we're getting major changes
raw osprey
curious…
notice how i said shes a fraud and the next time i talking about her is how she keeps being a fraud.......................
fossil echo
That being said, Sega def noticed the outburst for new models now lmao
Sonic 2030 trust
past matrix
All I could personally take away from that is just more of this.
Cause the disparity/look between the models and the sonic channel art isn't THAT big outside of the mediums of art (3d and 2d).
You'd honestly just need to adjust a few things to get there.
raw osprey
sonic project 2032 we move!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
past matrix
I dont think we're getting major changes
Which I guess is where the Mario odyssey correlation came from as a base of reference.
coarse ferry
Yeah they can't keep using outdated models anymore
It's becoming even more obvious with Crossworld
past matrix
Which I guess is where the Mario odyssey correlation came from as a base of refe...
'New' in the sense that it's updated, but more or less shares the same physicality of the past few models you've seen in the past.
Close that mouth mario
stiff salmon
'New' in the sense that it's updated, but more or less shares the same physicali...
why is mario hitting the speed 😭
still epoch
I just hope we get rid of stubby quills sonic
I never got used to it
It doesnt look good
Its just a design choice i never liked
Specially cuz the change was never Designed well
stiff salmon
and no sega cant just be using outdated models anymore, if they wanna push the franchise further i think a whole new model is needed
at-least just make it close to the sonic channel art
jeez
raw osprey
'New' in the sense that it's updated, but more or less shares the same physicali...
yea im not against it esp if we gonna get something like this
coarse ferry
agreed
cunning echo
'New' in the sense that it's updated, but more or less shares the same physicali...
If anything, this update kinda sucks because of his neck 😭
grand cobalt
yea im not against it esp if we gonna get something like this
isn’t it crazy how these are the best mario renders and we’ve never seen them outside of this art book
