Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation

[toxic vapor]

How could I abandon the opportunitity when everything from the Kishimoto saga pointed towards it lmao

[smoky summit]

Preparing for chimney hopping I see

[loud zinc]

ai generated levels 💀

[fossil echo]

first ai generated sonic game

[still epoch]

NOT AI

[fossil echo]

😭

[toxic vapor]

I don't see how I'm delusional but I'm expecting Tyler Mcvicker Half-Life Alyx reveal level high with Frontiers 2 announcement

Literally me as a member in TC has built up to Frontiers 2 announcement

[untold kayak]

Oh yeah she sings really, really good. ||https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u058XJVOhqg She also sounds naturally high pitched, which makes her sound younger without trying too much||

[past matrix]

levels building themselves sounds like it’s gonna blow up someone’s nintendo switch 2

[smoky summit]

Tbh right now my main thought process is like

Realistically

[still epoch]

please

[wide portal]

December 11th is gonna be really fucking scary dawg

[still epoch]

We already know thats not the case

[wide portal]

this is gonna be bad

[smoky summit]

How much could Sonic Team improve the visuals from Frontiers in the last 4 years

[toxic vapor]

Are you 100% locked with Frontiers 2 being a full boost game

[still epoch]

Bad for those with expectations

[toxic vapor]

No rolling and removal of Sonic's limited speed cap??

[fossil echo]

no because og frontiers isnt a full boost game either

[wide portal]

I’m not 100% locked on anything that’s my whole point 😭

[fossil echo]

hybrid of something is safe bet imo

[past matrix]

you’re under the assumption they’re going to show gameplay on the 11th

[toxic vapor]

OG Frontiers is like even worse than a full boost game because it's entire character controller hinges on needing a run button to get any form of base level speed

It's literal 0 to 1 movement burst lmao

[fossil echo]

I cant wait for our signature 30 second teaser (its 20 seconds because the last 10 is for the logo and sega outro)

[lunar trench]

19 days to live

[fossil echo]

depends if theyre locking in on ue5 or hedgehog engine wrapped in ue5

[lunar trench]

Always bet on the maya animation plug ins

[mint umbra]

always bet on just regular hedgehog engine 2

and the game looking exactly the same graphically

[fossil echo]

everyone shitted on how crossworlds kronos looked at first due to the lack of grass but ngl, i think i prefer it to how it actually looks in frontiers cause it actually managed to capture the og vibe they were going for with the lighting. if it had grass, that shit would be beautiful

[lunar trench]

https://tenor.com/view/kys-keep-yourself-safe-low-tier-god-gif-24664025

[dawn pumice]

I’m still thinking it’s HE2 wrapped in UE5

[mint umbra]

we are gonna be so back broken subsurface scattering bros

[lunar trench]

So crossworlds

[fossil echo]

yeah that

[mint umbra]

crossworlds is just UE5 isnt it

[wide portal]

Their new hiring positions mentioned UE5 right?

[lunar trench]

That's pretty much always been the assumption since crossworlds came out

[wide portal]

so this would probably the best move

[mint umbra]

i dont think it really has anything to do with HE2

[fossil echo]

theres a hedgehog engine plugin they made specifically for ue5

[dawn pumice]

Na it’s HE2 in UE5

[mint umbra]

mainly just for converting assets though, wasn't it?

[wide portal]

I’m gonna start calling it HE2.5

[fossil echo]

You'd have to ask the modding community more on that

[wide portal]

@/davih

[mint umbra]

i mean from the little modding ive done it just seems like for the most part its a regular UE5 game with bits of custom code for the engine and whatnot, is there anything pointing to it not being that?

[lunar trench]

Just tag him bruh @cunning echo

Or @wise chasm

[fossil echo]

again, ask HEMS or the Crossworld mod server, I was only in there for a brief bit but they kept saying it was something with Hedgehog engine in ue5

[cunning echo]

Hallo

Wassup

[dawn pumice]

I only datamined the game and just saw it had 2 extensions for HE2

[fossil echo]

whats hedgehog engine used for in crossworlds

[cunning echo]

Supposedly the plugin from he2 was for the materials

iirc

[mint umbra]

yeah thats what id presumed

just like

[fossil echo]

is that it? man the peeps in there made it sound bigger than it was

[mint umbra]

probably for converting and replicating textures and shaders to fit in UE5

[cunning echo]

Someone was saying it probably is for physics too? But I don't know

[mint umbra]

when i did a character mod i never had to interact with anything HE2 related

[dawn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-a-twelve-twelve-dice-roll-gif-26906738

Always bet on UE5

[cunning echo]

Perhaps it is stuff like materials and physics

[mint umbra]

does crossworlds use bullet

[cunning echo]

Ue is probably used for the graphics side

Only

[dawn pumice]

That’s what I thought

[cunning echo]

But the other stuff is managed from he2 and converted to UE

[mint umbra]

i dont think it is?

like

im pretty sure its just a game made in UE5

[cunning echo]

Is my theory

The game is made there ye

[wide portal]

alright then I’m changing my bet

[mint umbra]

its not like its running on HE2 in the back

[cunning echo]

I'm saying that the physics and mats are prolly handled by HE2 and converted

[mint umbra]

i dont think theyre like, handled by HE2 in real time

[wide portal]

development probably started on he2 for the next mainline game so I’m guessing it’ll stay there as opposed to crossworlds’ use of ue5

[cunning echo]

Not real time

[mint umbra]

i think they just used tools to convert assets they already had created for other HE sonic games, to work in unreal

[cunning echo]

I'm saying like it was done there and ported 😭

[mint umbra]

and thats really all

[cunning echo]

But they prolly handle it in UE later after the port

[lunar trench]

That doesn't make any sense

[fossil echo]

Alright

all this being said, it's not farfetched to think next game could be using ue5. Especially looking at the tests they did with sxsg

if they can just convert their HE assets to ue5

[mint umbra]

yeah, its definetly not

[cunning echo]

You guys also forget he2 has unreal tech ported over

[zinc spear]

Feel like that's the easy part ngl

[cunning echo]

Since frontiers

And the animation is a Maya plugin

Just used in unreal

[lunar trench]

🥹

[mint umbra]

we will see true progress when sonic team switches to blender over maya

[wide portal]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[cunning echo]

All our thoughts will be clear when the game is revealed honestly 😭

[smoky summit]

They probably used UE5 for easier time doing online

If Frontiers 2 is single player they'll probably stick with HE2

[dawn pumice]

No TGAs

[cunning echo]

Sega has only uses UE with remakes and spin offs

Even the new rggs game is made in dragon engine

Oh and revivals

UE is good for easier workarounds that won't need much engineering in their house engines

[dawn pumice]

I believe in UE5….

PowerPoint leak….

[mint umbra]

dude the UE5 golden axe revival footage in that TGA trailer 2 years ago was so fucking bad 😭

[cunning echo]

Time will tell

[cunning echo]

True 😭

But jet set radio tho

[mint umbra]

god i hope theyve been using this time to make it look less like ass

[zinc spear]

Improved art direction+making the assets (i.e. springs, rails, speed pads, launch rings etc) blend in better with the environments=already better looking game. and that's without even thinking about how they could optimise UE5

[smoky summit]

It looked so generic but at least it was 3D

Also good grief

I wonder if any of those games look different now

Sometimes it's weird where games are rebuilt from the ground up in that time

[mint umbra]

it looked significantly more competent than the other games (other than shinobi), but also im still not the biggest fan of the new artstyle

[smoky summit]

But sometimes you barely see any changes

[mint umbra]

maybe itll grow on me when i see more of it

[smoky summit]

God

[mint umbra]

but it doesnt hit the same so far

[smoky summit]

The SoR game

Looked like the sloppiest slop

To ever slop

[cunning echo]

You can also tell crossword is first sonic team ue game because of the lighting (day time only) looking like default unreal with no changes lmao

[mint umbra]

golden axe was by far the worst looking game there though

[cunning echo]

If they wanted to, they wouldn't do the jump rn

[zinc spear]

Not convinced you can really do JSR without remaining somewhat faithful to the vision they had with that artstyle

[cunning echo]

At best, after frontiers 2

[mint umbra]

it legit had unchanged unaltered default UE5 motion blur

[smoky summit]

It's like the bad kind of indie where the studio has like... No real vision but they have developers that can do the grunt work

[fossil echo]

KishiGOATo built different tho

[smoky summit]

But yeah I'm wondering because like

Some of those were literally tech demos

[mint umbra]

shinobi is like probably my fav game of the year in terms of art direction and its the only one that was somewhat close to release though

so maybe the other games are just gonna look good closer to release

[zinc spear]

The only game that barely looked different from release was P3R

[smoky summit]

I think Crazy Taxi probably had a working playable version

At the time

But I feel like JSR and Golden Axe were just test demos

[wide portal]

Remembering this quote rn

[zinc spear]

Frontiers while still identifiable, had those more noticeable things like the lighting, effects and lack of spammed assets everywhere

[wide portal]

lowkey I don’t think Sonic would be too picky with his taste of games

so I’m not sure how reliable this quote is as a quality reference 😭

[zinc spear]

depends on which sonic i guess

[mint umbra]

i mean he said this about satbk

so maybe sonic is very particular about how hes characterized, but doesnt mind wii motion controls?

[zinc spear]

Maybe it's this asshole

[mint umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-wii-snap-fire-secret-rings-gif-14767901

this is one of my fav sonic gifs i havent used it in so long

its so funny

[smoky summit]

Tbh I'm really just hoping they put a lot of focus on improving animations

I feel like that's the best area they can elevate to make the game feel "premium"

They probably want to sell it at $70

[mint umbra]

can they like

storyboard the cutscenes 😭

[past matrix]

They. Don’t?

[mint umbra]

no

[wide portal]

they already do

[mint umbra]

well

[raw osprey]

i mean all of games in that announcement aside from shinobi and JSR look bad

[smoky summit]

Lol I have to imagine they have been doing that

[mint umbra]

sorta not

THEY HAVENT

[zinc spear]

Still lowkey pissed off at how they put more effort for the animations into something like this instead of...the actual games?? https://youtu.be/W1jO-WMCdKY?si=YMZWCGb0UeS6I4u3

[smoky summit]

Who told you that Nidio

[wide portal]

like obviously they do storyboarding we’re just not tuned into the process

[mint umbra]

WE KNOW WHAT THEY *HAVE * BEEN DOING WHICH ISNT REALLY STORYBOARDING

[raw osprey]

didnt they use 3d models for storyboards

[fossil echo]

its a preview into the future trust the plan

[smoky summit]

I mean

[wide portal]

we have Heroes boards at least but I’m too lazy to grab them

[smoky summit]

That's not true though

[zinc spear]

Bruh it fckin better be

[raw osprey]

i think they show storyboard of that giganto cutscene and its jsut 3d models

[mint umbra]

no, they have top down diagrams of the scene, showing where the characters are placed, and what the camera position is

[smoky summit]

They could have still done rough storyboards

[mint umbra]

not actual storyboards

[wide portal]

That’s not boarding that’s previs

[mint umbra]

thats previz, not really storyboarding

[raw osprey]

oh ok

[mint umbra]

oh i mean in older sonic games they 100% did storyboards

[smoky summit]

Cause in western animation storyboarding is usually close to an animatic but in Japan it's just sketches

[modest parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-laugh-you-go-to-hell-they-still-laughing-if-you-laugh-gif-11539776701605221451

[smoky summit]

With timing and stuff

[mint umbra]

but we generally have reason to believe they haven't

[smoky summit]

I don't think they are doing them for any of the dialogue scenes

But like

[mint umbra]

this is how they plan the scenes out

this is for the giganto and sonic encounter

no 2D drawn boards

[smoky summit]

Lol

[mint umbra]

and this is specifically from when they show the entire production process, if there were boards, they'd have shown them here

[wide portal]

ahh

That’s weird

[untold kayak]

Technical script

[raw osprey]

its funny because rgg make storyboards for yakuza games

[mint umbra]

HELL THEY STRAIGHT UP SAY IT

[past matrix]

they got me fuckrd up

[mint umbra]

having 2D boards would let em plan ahead so much better 😭

and it really just like

makes the cutscenes make so much more sense

[past matrix]

THEY GOT ME FUCKED UP

[mint umbra]

so many poses feel like they'd been done differently if there was an artist boarding the scene and the animators had more to go off of than just the positions and rough descriptions

especially with making appealing expressions

like

having 2D references allows you to make cartoon character poses look so much more natural and they HAVE SO MANY GOOD ARTISTS THERE

[raw osprey]

sonic team really funny sometimes

tho maybe they did something because somethimg about shadow gens cutscenes is different

aside from like better aniamtion

[untold kayak]

Storyboards aren't credited in Shadow gens either

yet it's much more cinematic

[raw osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/brian-griffin-what-do-i-want-hmm-glasses-brian-griffin-glasses-gif-5134585931233528995

[mint umbra]

im just saying storyboards are like

good

they should use them

they are good tools for animation

[untold kayak]

True

Hm I just found out something interesting

[mint umbra]

it allows you to figure out if your idea works way before you actually animate the final assets

[untold kayak]

Sonic Unleashed (game itself) doesn't have credited storyboard either

[mint umbra]

makes sense

im very confident the opening was boarded, but the ingame cutscenes used mocap anyway

[untold kayak]

yeah, the cgi scenes do show their storyboards

[mint umbra]

so boarding wouldn't really help that much anyway

[untold kayak]

I guess they haven't used storyboards in the games themselves for quite a while

[mint umbra]

i think they probably haven't since like

06?

[untold kayak]

Aproximately, yeah

[mint umbra]

idk if shth05 had boarded ingame cutscenes

CG definetly was, but idk about ingame cutscenes

honestly storyboards are some of the coolest production materials to look at

you can really see the core of the ideas that the artists wanted to bring into the world with the animation

its so cool

[untold kayak]

It0s really cool

I've worked on storyboards myself for school

it's so satisfying to build the sequence

[glossy sphinx]

• hey I played the next open world sonic game!!

• oh well you can create stages but not really! that's my concrete info!

[untold kayak]

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FxTwitter · Feb 21, 2020, 10:02 PM

[mint umbra]

im probably gonna storyboard an animation pretty soon but ive been stuck in the scripting part for a bit 😭

[dense snow]

honestly, i should try storyboarding for my projects more often

been doing it for my stuff i've been working on in my studio course throughout the semester, it's helped a lot

with my tiny ahh sketchbook cause i'm a crazy person

[mint umbra]

for my last short film i had a very very rough storyboard that was like, barely legible to anyone but me but since i was the only one animating it worked fine enough lol

just kinda helps to lay down all of your ideas for the visuals out there early

[untold kayak]

Same lol

[dense snow]

i think if i'm working on something very very short (like the mech animation i shared a while back), i'll storyboard that physically.
but for a more bigger project like my sonic frontiers project, my personal project i'll explain eventually, or other projects of mine, i'll do that digitally

pretty sure there's some storyboard related addons for blender i could use involving grease pencil

[autumn yacht]

who drew these again?

[glossy sphinx]

the style reminds me of iizuka

(just wanted to put that out there because I genuinely have no idea who made that)

[autumn yacht]

ah that would make a lot of sense tbh

i was thinking hoshino but nah his drawings are always like this instead

[lunar trench]

They are what animation is

Fucking shadow 05 had storyboards for its op animation

Oh yeah you said it too lmaoo

Thing is they'd need 2d animation stpryboarder

And that's clearly something they couldn't have had for frontiers

[autumn yacht]

you never know

[lunar trench]

For frontiers yes we do

[autumn yacht]

dang

[lunar trench]

^

[lunar trench]

^

Some animators storyboatd their own scenes

Do the gengas and animatics alonz

Like yutaka nakamura or vincent chansard

[autumn yacht]

i assume that's the norm sadly

only cg stuff will be storyboarded out, anything else isn't

[lunar trench]

Well they'd need to have the script be ready

And everything

And yeah they'd need 2d storyboarders

Yes it's less efficient

But man

It'd look so much better

If marza were to direct the in game cutscenes then maybe

[lunar trench]

Idk if'd consider those storyboards tbh

[autumn yacht]

oh nah i forgot to post "i don't think shadow has any besides cg due to this"

iirc adventure 2 does actually have them though

[lunar trench]

Ig they are ? But they kinda tend of the concept arts

[autumn yacht]

i say it's more a layout.....which......kinda but that's only part of a storyboard and i doubt they framed the actual cutscenes

yo was biolizard going to appear in the tube?

[cunning echo]

tbf, storyboards arent always drawings

they probably uses references images, is faster than drawing

I also do that a lot

😭

[smoky summit]

Time for a Shadow remake

[strange estuary]

2033

[still epoch]

So many things this next game could be

[fossil echo]

Shadow 2 but it's like mgr but with guns blazing

[hybrid hill]

[glossy sphinx]

mainly peak

[still epoch]

We gotta beelieb

[coarse ferry]

Please have the master emerald having a huge story focus come true

🙏

[fossil echo]

I'm still having the hunch of two games

[wise chasm]

i'm having a hunch of 4 games, but no games

[stiff salmon]

patience

[still epoch]

Two games?

[grand cobalt]

i found this leak

[fossil echo]

The shiting leak...

[grand cobalt]

never heard of it

this is bra nd new

[hybrid hill]

uekewa

[coarse ferry]

"Be me"

[grand cobalt]

golden age of fake leaks

[hybrid hill]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-dont-stop-running-little-reddit-dont-stop-running-little-reddit-don't-stop-running-little-reddit-gif-7725721871524721642

[fossil echo]

Frontiers 2 slacking tbh, where are the female open worlds and the sexy ghost girls

These leakers boring af

[still epoch]

Uekewa

[toxic vapor]

I swear you guys make me sound like a schizo

Like yall make me look crazy

[raw osprey]

sonic 5 with uekawa art

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[still epoch]

Uekewa

[still epoch]

How so

[prime hearth]

convinced not a single thing in this happened but if it did the sega guy in this case must've been fighting for his life in that bathroom 😭😭

[silent haven]

you don't need our help for that

[wide portal]

the shitting leaked

[still epoch]

Zippos shitty friend

[prime hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/top-secret-skibidi-toilet-val-kilmer-gif-7591204633176879935

[rocky leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-microwave-baby-gif-8132296605618640582

[torn trench]

It’s just the little poo thing from South Park

[grand cobalt]

if i hadn’t knew this was from the flash movie I would’ve assumed this was a grok generated video on twt

[prime hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/zl-nintendo-switch-the-flash-funny-camera-gif-434420366703633502

[pulsar horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/icarly-carly-shay-carly-miranda-cosgrove-miranda-gif-22030885

[rocky leaf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/525754402779299855/896180570856517662/g6hanxuaywp71.gif

[mint umbra]

its so funny how they just

released a movie

that looks like that

like, they thought this would be ok for people to see in theaters

[prime hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/the-flash-ezra-miller-lets-go-multiple-barry-fast-gif-8488328259071960790

cannot get over this fuckin thing

PS3 ass movie

[pulsar horizon]

They thought releasing a movie with Ezra Miller was ok

[mint umbra]

this legitimately looks like a CG ad for a weird DC gacha game

[prime hearth]

the fuckin uhhhhh

crypto/gambling flash ad on definitely legitimate movie streams looks better dfhivgsbzjhv

[mint umbra]

its like they chose the worst place to do the CG in

its like

just the flattest plane in existence

[prime hearth]

loading up minecraft ultraflat seed

[pulsar horizon]

Didn’t they also kill Michael Keaton like 5 times in the movie

[smoky summit]

Looks AI

[prime hearth]

fuck if I know that would involve watching the movie

[mint umbra]

i wouldnt know i didnt watch it lmao

[pulsar horizon]

I watched it once and regretted it. But that was waaaay back when they first added the movie to Max

[mint umbra]

and i watched like 5 seasons of the flash tv show i can put myself through bullshit for that guy but not this 😭

maybe even 6 idk i dont remember

[pulsar horizon]

Nah I loved the CW Flash but after Infinite Earths I was so confused and just gave up on the series

[prime hearth]

I've not sat down to watch the series but mum did so I saw some over her shoulder

it sure is a thing made for television!

[mint umbra]

i think at its best its pretty alright

its very

cw tv show

but when it tried in the earlier seasons there was some good shit

but it got like

so fucking bad

[rocky leaf]

the flash had a peak supergirl

and the flash loses his tooth

quality movie

[prime hearth]

regrettably mum did not get to the episode where gorilla grodd tries to kidnap/kill teenage obama

[pulsar horizon]

But you gotta admit Grant Gust is the best live action Flash

[mint umbra]

i watched the finale just to get some closure with that series and it was some of the worst things ive seen on tv man

[mint umbra]

that was in legends of tomorrow

which i did watch in its entirety

its peak

[pulsar horizon]

She couldn’t see Grodd make America Grodd again

[mint umbra]

clears every other CW DC show so hard

could not be less comic accurate but its the dumbest show ive seen

fun watch

like that grodd thing never crossed my mind as especially bizzare when i watched it because the entire show is bullshit like that

[pulsar horizon]

Have you watched Superman and Lois?

P good for a CW DC show imo

[mint umbra]

not yet but i want to

[stiff salmon]

the guy who got ran off of twitter

[mint umbra]

i think i watched the pilot?

but only that

[pulsar horizon]

Ending is kinda eh imo

[mint umbra]

iirc season 1 still kindaaaa tried to take itself seriously occasionally so you dont immediately get to the goofy shit 100%

but it gets there very soon after

https://tenor.com/view/beebo-rawr-legends-of-tomorrow-gif-12234731

this is like

just a thing that happens

[pulsar horizon]

Last thing I remember of CW Flash was like the Mirror Dimension stuff

[prime hearth]

I remember someone describing the DC CW shows in general as american toku once and the more I see of it the more I'm convinced they're right lmao

(I also need to watch more toku)

[mint umbra]

they kinda are if the action in the avarage toku was like

not good 😭

[prime hearth]

well that's where the american part comes in

[mint umbra]

very few fights in any CW DC stuff have thought put into them lol

theres like, maybe a few i remember liking but most of them are just ass

legends of tomorrow at least makes up for it by usually just having the dumbest circumstances for a fight to happen, so its at least amusing

[prime hearth]

stuff like this is so stupid and fun and I love it https://bsky.app/profile/littlekuriboh.bsky.social/post/3m6audufh3c2f

LittleKuriboh (@littlekuriboh.bsky.social)

One of the funniest moments in Himitsu Sentai Gorenger is this bit from episode 29 where a computer challenges them to solve a riddle and Kirenger is like "man that's a tough one" so the computer talks shit at them

Daita's delivery of "NAN DATTO?!" lives in my head

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Bluesky · Nov 22, 2025, 10:37 PM

[mint umbra]

actually i think there was an episode in legends of tomorrow about godzilla lol

like the filming of the original movie

actually maybe it wasnt actually godzilla but like, a made up early 50s japanese monster movie anyways

[safe hull]

I'm thinking about the fucking Grodd episode 😭

https://youtu.be/tzPQkm9_tPc?si=meALzZnnplFhckUN

[mint umbra]

https://youtu.be/-pmJSiF_7lA this shit is so fucking stupid

i loved this show i was so sad when it got cancelled

[modest parcel]

18 days until the game awards

[mint umbra]

im scared man

i really hope they have good ass trailer

[stiff salmon]

[mint umbra]

ik its like 100% gonna be a 10 second teaser but i think it would be much smarter if it was

not that

i think especially with a series that people still suspect will have shitty broken games, having some good looking gameplay would do so much

[raw osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/heroes-arrive-flash-supergirl-flash-2023-gif-15382032228327397500

sonic 06 when you get to open areas

[mint umbra]

aw man this gif cuts off before the awesome cutscene to gameplay transition

[modest parcel]

If we get another IGN First tier footage drop like frontiers got

It’s joever

[raw osprey]

ironically thsi movie has like one good action sequence and even then it saved by good camera work

[safe hull]

Fully was expecting the camera to do a weird looking 180° rotation to go behind the characters to be in position like a 3rd person game 😭

[raw osprey]

even there cgi is shitty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTx5fJWumWY

[mint umbra]

It does this just cuts off before that

[safe hull]

WAIT WHAT

[raw osprey]

yea

[modest parcel]

At some point we do need to acknowledge how unfavorable the Shadow Gens marketing was though

[forest fractal]

How so?

[modest parcel]

Like there was problems on the level of what footage was shown, but

It was much more an issue with how it was presented

Where the grand majority of the gaming public saw it was Generations, and brushed off the Shadow stuff as maybe insignificant additions

When they could have marketed it the other way around

[grand cobalt]

is that not how it was 😭

we barely saw the generations portion besides the first trailer iirc

[modest parcel]

As a result, most of the time if you find someone discovering shadow gens and its reputation, theyre also likely going to ask whether it’s a full game or not

[modest parcel]

The first trailer is what I’m talking about tbf

The second trailer was a mix iirc

[wide portal]

I mean the first trailer was a deliberate fakeout

opening with mostly OG gens footage before shadow literally pops in from nowhere

[modest parcel]

The second trailer suffered from a presentation issue overall

[mint umbra]

https://youtu.be/BSPw-6FMLEs?si=vClqT7SKvY4EcAU2

[modest parcel]

Just a brief collage of footage as if it wasn’t worth the marketing of a dedicated trailer like what came later

[mint umbra]

Most cutscene to gameplay ass camera movement I've seen in my life

[modest parcel]

And shitty music

Pick your advertising better when placing in front of as many eyes as that imo

And when you have so many more options to choose from

[forest fractal]

Ayyy shitty music???

[modest parcel]

Later trailers leaned into the story aspect and worked to sell people a lot better

[mint umbra]

https://fixupx.com/existingdebeing/status/1799715548525121586?t=q5kDKeZkve3oNCS2V5IARg&s=19

Existing the Being (@existingdebeing)

Sonic X Shadow Generations trailer if it was awesome

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FixupX · Jun 9, 2024, 8:09 AM

[forest fractal]

The people demand Tenderoni

[cunning echo]

Zamn

[safe hull]

https://tenor.com/view/itsnotmykla-shock-shock-cat-big-eye-gif-12130250970544054192

[forest fractal]

But nah RBU an under appreciated GOAT of ShadGens’ OST

We still don’t know who they are

[mint umbra]

It's actually shadow himself

RBU stands for red black and ultimate

[cunning echo]

Idk who rbu was

But his chaos remix was cool

[toxic vapor]

GUYS

Are you excited to get a new model, momentum rolling physics and new colourful environments in Frontiers 2, to be announced at the Game Awards 2025!!

[modest parcel]

Did they do the radical highway mix in the trailer

[cunning echo]

Sadly no

[coarse ferry]

I don't gaf about that

I am more wanting them to push the other sonic chars properly this time around

[cunning echo]

That's act 1 in the game I think

[still epoch]

You could have worded in ways that are more exciting

[cunning echo]

Or was it act 2

[still epoch]

Like a new adventure that shows what sonic team can do

[cunning echo]

No it was act 1 iirc

[modest parcel]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6E36fOpk-Yg&pp=ygUjc2hhZG93IGdlbmVyYXRpb25zIHN1bW1lciBnYW1lIGZlc3TSBwkJCwoBhyohjO8%3D

See this

This is just limp

[grand cobalt]

you’re getting sonic forces infinite’s revenge

[cunning echo]

Are youuuuu readyyyy

[toxic vapor]

Why??

[cunning echo]

Idk

😭

[toxic vapor]

Yeah but having specifics = an actual prediction

[cunning echo]

I'm like Tyson Hesse

[modest parcel]

I like the song in the stage itself

But it doesn’t suit a trailer

[cunning echo]

Is too shadowy

[modest parcel]

Wub Wub Wub Wub Wub

Cue eye rolls

[cunning echo]

It doesn't fit the sonic side

[mint umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/peggle-2-peggle-2-gif-16396044623185616458

SONIC SUPERSTARS

2!

[coarse ferry]

It depends how you worded things really

[cunning echo]

2

[modest parcel]

Theyre probably not going to botch the marketing for the next big mainline game though

[toxic vapor]

What's the issue with how I worded things..

[modest parcel]

Shadow gens suffered a side game syndrome

[cunning echo]

They haven't really done 10 sec teasers that much

[toxic vapor]

Rolling down hills to gain speed and then maintain speed would be an amazing feature

[modest parcel]

CrossWorlds

[forest fractal]

They will

[toxic vapor]

Crossworlds & Frontiers both did

2/2 rn

My goat Sonic Superstars didn't tho...

[cunning echo]

We saw it like weeks later in playstation

They prolly just had some contract there

Sony money tho...

[modest parcel]

I swear it felt longer than that

[cunning echo]

No 😭

[coarse ferry]

For new models, it is at least a possibility, but at best it'll just be small changes
For momentum rolling physics. Problem is the direciton they'll go for and after with Frontiers succes, they'll be leaning more over that
And as for colorful envrionments? I feel like that chance is more likely in the classic games since the modern games tends to lean more to realistic approach

[cunning echo]

Literally January 1 and we already had footage of crossworld

[forest fractal]

nothings more funnier than TSR’s teaser

R

[coarse ferry]

Fuck that one

[grand cobalt]

10 second teaser had me so mad I wanted the game to fail

[coarse ferry]

Legit fuck that one the most

Not only it was after Forces, but it was supposdely be either Sonic R revival or ASR3.
But what we get? A nothing burger sonic roster that can't even treat the series right either

[cunning echo]

I think it will be just a trailer like superstars and shadow gens

[wide portal]

Long shot prediction, frontiers 2 is actually 2027, and we’re getting a shadow gens-scale boost spinoff for the anniversary for 2026

if I’m right everybody gets cookies

[forest fractal]

It’ll be another cinematic based trailer

[mint umbra]

frontiers teaser wasnt much better though

at least TSR had

1 letter from the title

[coarse ferry]

One of the most insulted sonic games that existed

[grand cobalt]

the theories about that the random ass cgi city shadow was in

[mint umbra]

the frontiers teaser had none

not even a "sonic"

[cunning echo]

it showed the island

At least

[cunning echo]

Oof lmao

[mint umbra]

yeah but a part of it that you barely get to be in

its like

[grand cobalt]

how would yall feel if its like frontiers’s tga trailer

[toxic vapor]

A) Idk I think it'll be pretty different
B) I don't see how anything after Frontiers indicates us not getting rolling physics
C) We've gotten multiple Modern games with fisherprice cartoony aesthetics (Lost World, Dream Team, Rumble etc)

[forest fractal]

Frontiers gave us THE symbol

[mint umbra]

basically just a backdrop while you go to the towers

[grand cobalt]

CG + landscape footage

[toxic vapor]

Forces is Lost World's aesthetic even if it carries Gens-isms

[wide portal]

Probably the safest best tbh

[cunning echo]

So...show the island instead?

[coarse ferry]

Not saying it can happen over momentum rolling physics. It's more of a tricky situation over how they'll go for

[grand cobalt]

!!!

[toxic vapor]

Frontiers is the only recent Modern game that went hard for realism

[forest fractal]

They need to really wow the visuals if they do go for that

[toxic vapor]

Sonic Team loves risks so

[cunning echo]

Show gameplay, even if it's sonic doing some platform 😭

[toxic vapor]

I don't see them going safe AT ALL in terms of Sonic's gameplay

[cunning echo]

I don't mind

[forest fractal]

SEGA doesn’t

[cunning echo]

I just wanna see the bro moving

[toxic vapor]

Frontiers 1 -> Frontiers 2 is gonna be a Gens -> Lost World situation

High key

But in a good way

[grand cobalt]

at least 5 people here will perish when they see marza sonic slowly fade onto the screen

[toxic vapor]

ME

ME

Kill me!

[cunning echo]

Lost world situation is just because sonic team didn't want to keep the boost

[toxic vapor]

Sonic Team has been blackmailed into using that mechanic multiple times

[grand cobalt]

good ending where the cg doesn’t reflect the in game model

[forest fractal]

I’d do it for free, less annoying people in this world

[toxic vapor]

Hopefully Kishimoto would make it out alive

[grand cobalt]

like pretty much every Sonic game since lw tbh

[toxic vapor]

I wish I could say more but @glossy sphinx would kill me

[cunning echo]

Is barely the same anymore

[toxic vapor]

So I'll quiet down...

[wide portal]

“you should’ve aimed for the muzzle curve…”

[wide portal]

you don’t know shit don’t implicate him 😭

[toxic vapor]

I swear I sound so schizophrenic now

Those who know

Skull emoji

x10

[grand cobalt]

Brand new model!!!! forces sonic with muzzle curve and extruded quills

[toxic vapor]

I love saying shit in this channel because no one believes a word I say

I'm uncredible and disliked in this server so you'll see

[grand cobalt]

where did that come from

😭

[cunning echo]

Ngl that's the corniest thing you have ever said 😭

[safe hull]

Good ending where we just get high production value smooth 2D animated cutscenes because FUCK I need more, the itch must be scratched

[grand cobalt]

how many weeks now

my…..

[toxic vapor]

I'm right though

[cunning echo]

Like 3

[grand cobalt]

sonicrune..

[cunning echo]

We're almost there

[grand cobalt]

jesus 3

[wide portal]

Closer to 2

[cunning echo]

Yup

[safe hull]

Geoff Keighley ain't doing shit for us

[toxic vapor]

@glossy sphinx is a sleeper agent for Sonic Team

[cunning echo]

Eh

[toxic vapor]

Don't trust a word he says

[cunning echo]

It's fine

[toxic vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/nose-fur-kawaii-sniff-canine-gif-20552016

[cunning echo]

I'm gonna watch tga anyways sonic or not 😭

So whatever

[wide portal]

I’ll watch for sonic but stick around for the rest of the ceremony anyway because I have a problem

[toxic vapor]

I have more faith Sonic is gonna be announcing something in TGA than Half-Life 3

Cause HL3 is gonna be announced BEFORE the Game Awards

https://tenor.com/view/cat-frantic-the-voices-gif-4777666775328982944

[coarse ferry]

Why are you trying sound like I am an asshole?

Like dude

[toxic vapor]

I'm not talking about you dawg??

[grand cobalt]

the sequel to jesus 2 apparently

[coarse ferry]

Nah it's after you said that after I made my doubts

It's the timing when you say that 💀

[toxic vapor]

Well you don't trust me though...

[smoky summit]

If 1 of these had to be sacrificed, which one would sacrifice?

[toxic vapor]

New model

[coarse ferry]

It's more of me not expecting the inevitable and more importantly

I gave up kept being so positive over any possibility

🙃

[mint umbra]

hold on guys my sources at sega sent me an image of the new sonic model...

can you believe it

[grand cobalt]

man this sonic shit is not that serious

[toxic vapor]

Btw can we ban Nero with me as well

[grand cobalt]

idk about you guys but his quills look a little longer 👀👀👀👀

[mint umbra]

they added an extra loop cut on his forehead!!!

[cunning echo]

Omggg

[toxic vapor]

If Sonic looks like this in Frontiers 2 I'm going bald

[cunning echo]

Are.youuuu readyyyy

The waterfalls

The cherry blossom

The city

The romance

Are youu readyyyy

[grand cobalt]

reminds me of the falls in mystic ruins!

[cunning echo]

😭

[glossy sphinx]

you suck at being quiet ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[raw osprey]

yea this trailer sucks

[safe hull]

Make the quills shorter...

[raw osprey]

but later ones about doom powers and story was pretty good

[grand cobalt]

this implies you guys were good at staying quiet at some point 💔

[toxic vapor]

These are my predictions

You haven't told me shit bro

[cunning echo]

And the funny thing is how sonic got a quote later on in the game regarding the waterfall reminding him too

[toxic vapor]

Nero stop lying to these people constantly

None of us know anything

[glossy sphinx]

nooooo

[cunning echo]

That was a funny coincidence honestly

[toxic vapor]

Nero sybubu (get it, it's like sybau and labubu combined)

[grand cobalt]

I have kishimoto’s phone number what should I tell him

[cunning echo]

I have his LinkedIn

No but really

[raw osprey]

can he adopt me

[torn trench]

Make a sonic rhythm game

[wide portal]

Ask him to put Spider-Man in the next game

[glossy sphinx]

I am!!!

[grand cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/anandoe-gif-13071176676403708606

[raw osprey]

if we talking about shitty sonic trailers i think all crossworlds trailers aside from launch one suck ass

[grand cobalt]

he wants me instead

[raw osprey]

well

theres room for only one of us at sonic team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[grand cobalt]

after all… i am his biggest fan.

[glossy sphinx]

same

[grand cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/biggest-fan-im-your-biggest-fan-the-incredibles-after-all-im-your-biggest-fan-gif-11846551

[toxic vapor]

You are so obvious dawg go back to your dungeon

You think you have Playboi Carti aura

[raw osprey]

i wish frontiers 2 announcement trailer to be as cool as odyssey trailer

[dusty osprey]

So is there like a leak ? Or...

[raw osprey]

but i dont think its gonna happen

[glossy sphinx]

that was the point of the message.

[raw osprey]

even nintendo could not repeat the same magic with bananza trailers

[glossy sphinx]

like I'd use 3 exclamation marks seriously

[grand cobalt]

he just got back to me

[raw osprey]

i dont think sega can

[grand cobalt]

he said that all brand collabs in crossworlds will be in the game

there will be an air asia in the open zone

and sonic can wear puma sneakers

and get hi chew from the convenience store

[toxic vapor]

Listen

What are yall guys prediction

[raw osprey]

man what is the point of this channel again

i think if orgot

[toxic vapor]

WAIT

[grand cobalt]

leaks! rumors! speculation!

[toxic vapor]

Why don't we make a bingo card

[glossy sphinx]

speculation!

[toxic vapor]

Of all the predictions we have for the Game Awards

[glossy sphinx]

go ahead lil bro

[toxic vapor]

what would the free space be

"has sonic"

[coarse ferry]

Prediction wise? Hmm
Frontiers 2
P4R (since it's not in xbox lmao)
Virtua Fighter 6
Onimusha
FF7R Pt. 3
Nintendo has games
Halo in PS5
New Sony game

[toxic vapor]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1swncTf75y-oOdqOz2mjqtph9MW84ATaimtVJYIGOgAI/edit?usp=sharing

[toxic vapor]

just sonic...

[coarse ferry]

Habit lmao

But really sonic wise it's only just Frontiers 2

I don't think SEGA will show anything else when it comes to sonic but instead their IPs I have to be fully honest

[toxic vapor]

@glossy sphinx What are your predictions for Frontiers 2...

In particular

[glossy sphinx]

why are you asking me

you already know

[toxic vapor]

I don't know your broad predictions on what it's gonna be??

We've been talking for years

[glossy sphinx]

alright

uhh give me a minute

[fossil echo]

Freeze slowly being taken over by framerate's soul

[cunning echo]

Oh my god 😭

I forgot about him

[toxic vapor]

bro only talked models

he was an unleashed fan

[sick bobcat]

im preparing for the possibility of Sonic not appearing in TGA and next year's state of play

[still epoch]

Borrriiiing

[sick bobcat]

that way, if he does show up, I will be pleasantly surprised

[still epoch]

Pleasant surprises are a myth

[prime hearth]

I think sonic will show up at the TGAs but I wish he didn’t lol

Geoff stinky

[mint umbra]

woah guys my source at sega just sent me the render for the new game i cant believe that this is the direction they're going in, this is revolutionary

[prime hearth]

by now they’ve set a routine and it clearly works for everyone involved so I can’t see them breaking it yet

[coarse ferry]

I'll say there is a good chance he'll be considering how much Geoff wanting the viewers. But even then he may get ignored

[mint umbra]

theres even a cymk version i cant believe this

i could never have guessed that the model would look like this man

[cunning echo]

No way

Omg...

[smoky summit]

This is so Nidio pilled

[mint umbra]

Wdym 😭

[cunning echo]

Lighting

[mint umbra]

How is the lighting there nidio pilled 😭

[cunning echo]

Saturation and top lighting

Is nidio pilled...

[mint umbra]

My renders are usually not really that saturated but ig the top light is a little nidio pilled...

Though most of the lighting here is actually identical to the lighting sonic team uses

As in

I just slightly edited the pose of the TGS 2023 sonic frontiers statue model, which has baked-in lighting

[raw osprey]

GUSY THEY CHANGE THE MODEL

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH IT LOOKS SO GOOD

[grand cobalt]

GUSY THEY CHANGE THE MODEL

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH IT LOOKS SO GOOD

[raw osprey]

remember when people were saying this render looks good

[prime hearth]

no

[mint umbra]

They just sent me the actual final version

See now this addresses all of my issues with the previous one

[past matrix]

Pure delusion

[cunning echo]

the shoes tho

too shiny

[still epoch]

This is gonna sound really stupid but i really miss how 2008 sonic eyes moved

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-wii-snap-fire-secret-rings-gif-14767901

They dont do that anymore they just make his eyes look all wide and weird

[mint umbra]

holy shit guys

[still epoch]

WHOA

[cunning echo]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[loud zinc]

2 days before tga

Does anyone know where pyoro is now these days

[prime hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/pornacore-mcdonald's-burger-making-unemployed-jobless-gif-10886260303040581876

[untold kayak]

Nuked by the Nintendo Ninjas

Lol

[loud zinc]

He still has account up

[stiff salmon]

they gave him a lobotomy

[toxic vapor]

Ts so ass

[mint umbra]

thank you that was my goal

wanted to make the freeze repellant sonic frontiers 2

[toxic vapor]

Lowkey should send this to some Sonic tubers

[mint umbra]

premy would have used this if he wasnt an ai slop machine nowadays...

[toxic vapor]

he's still my goat

@mint umbra can i steal the cover lmaoo

i wanna post it in some servers

[mint umbra]

i mean ok lmao

i did post it on twitter though

https://x.com/existingdebeing/status/1992654960916668866

Existing the Being (@existingdebeing)

My buddy Geoff just sent me this

X · Nov 23, 2025, 6:02 PM

[past matrix]

fucking milk dud

[strange estuary]

The way they handle Sonic's eyes nowadays sucks

[still epoch]

Its horible

[cunning echo]

I don't think he was making bank out of it anyways 😭

I still don't get the eye thing Henry is pointing out

[wide portal]

Same

[still epoch]

Keep not knowing

[cunning echo]

explain

[still epoch]

Fine it has been a while since i drew anyways and i need an excuse

[cunning echo]

[strange estuary]

I saw a tweet very recently explaining how Sonic's eyes tend to be animated jarringly

But I can't find it

[glossy sphinx]

I also enjoy how the quills are posed when the camera zooms out

[still epoch]

This is really rough but when they want to make sonic angry nowdays, they use the second expression

They just

Grab the brow

And pull it down

But dont adjust the top of the eyes

[glossy sphinx]

I dub this the yamaguchi/junio effect

(ignore my spelling errors)

but yeah the eyes adopt a more boomerang type of shape...

[wide portal]

Ah ok

I was confused because I think there are examples of them still doing the former in recent CG and in game cutscenes

[still epoch]

They do that sometimes

Is the thing

[cunning echo]

but its been like this since sa1

[still epoch]

Been like this how

[still epoch]

There is some examples of them doing it nowdays but they are very far inbetween

They should do it waaay more often

[still epoch]

Yea exactly?

[cunning echo]

ah? 😭

I dont see it

[glossy sphinx]

isn't that just his default face

[still epoch]

What you dont see

[glossy sphinx]

• a weird fov

[still epoch]

I am confused

[cunning echo]

I do think his pupils are too far away

[still epoch]

They are yes

[glossy sphinx]

one thing I think you're missing is how close the top of his eyes are to his ears

[still epoch]

Yes

They are too close and i feel when sonic has this

Determined expression

[cunning echo]

what about him

[still epoch]

His brow should be lowered

Its hard to explain, but once you see the difference, it makes a world of it

[glossy sphinx]

yeah I tried to explain it but low-key gave up halfway

[still epoch]

Like this constant blank expression literally looks lifeless, not to be like Lacks Soul but his expression is non existent hes just staring at the void, not determined to do anything

[glossy sphinx]

oh is this a good example of that eyebrow coming down... (ignore the comparison that's unimportant here)

[strange estuary]

I primarily hate how they handle his eyebrows

[still epoch]

Pretty ok example yea, they need to change how they rig his eyes way more than they do

[wide portal]

A toothpick changes everything

[still epoch]

They are Trying

Like i can tell sonic is meant to have an angry expression here

[glossy sphinx]

hell yeahhh

[cunning echo]

is a rig problem

he only has one eyebrow bone 😭

[glossy sphinx]

yeah pretty much

[wide portal]

where’d the other one go

[cunning echo]

is weird they only make it one instead of like 3 per eyebrow

[strange estuary]

It went to

[cunning echo]

but they'd know

[wise chasm]

to heaven (kiwami)

[cunning echo]

there it is

[strange estuary]

The tweet I saw used Wreck it Ralph Sonic for comparison

[still epoch]

The funny thing is that the forces teaser tries to be angry but the unleashed one just does it way more better, its a more fleshed out expression for such a expressive character

[strange estuary]

I still really love how he's animated in that movie

[past matrix]

They push down the middle of the brows, but the width of the rest stays stationary.
So it doesn't really GO for that full on furrow

That's a common problem I tend to see with his expressions in-game.

[still epoch]

Yepp

[wide portal]

so many problems could be fixed if they just added a second, huh

[still epoch]

Perhaps

It would give them a lot more to play with

[cunning echo]

you could prolly do it but it kinda brokes 😭

[still epoch]

Yikes

You know what sucks

If it wasnt broken it would look pretty nice

Maybe one eye more raised than the other for that “junio” effect

It doesnt need to be constant ofc

[past matrix]

obligatory justin edit coming inbound

[still epoch]

Yay

[wide portal]

Yippeeeee

[still epoch]

Junio had something though

[still epoch]

Yepp, little things like this

Like this is just a good expression

He angy

[mint umbra]

you can 100% push it further with the current rig without making any changes, but it also 100% could be even more flexible

[still epoch]

Oooh

[cunning echo]

there we go

[mint umbra]

this is just the regular forces model and rig with no alterations

[still epoch]

Nice

[mint umbra]

the "headtop" bone in the current rig can do a lot to make expressions look nicer and a lot of people using these models dont use it

like i 100% think a new model and rig are needed, but you can do a good amount of stuff with the current rig if you try hard enough

the issue is mainly that it just shouldn't be this difficult, a good rig should be simple and easy to use

(and also that the model can just be kinda unappealing lol)

[still epoch]

Yea

[cunning echo]

The model thing is subjective anyways

But they do need a better rig

[zinc spear]

Whatever happens can they please please PLEASE fix the constant ass brow thing

[still epoch]

Maybe they will fix it next game

[strange estuary]

I want them to fix a lot of things with the model next game

If they don't, I might as well give up

[mint umbra]

they really just gotta make a shape key where they smooth the butt brow out, its like the easiest fix in the world 😭

[strange estuary]

Please Kishimoto save me

[hybrid hill]

check out the model edit I made

If kishi moto moto doesn’t add this it’s over

[mint umbra]

i actually prefer the buttbrow to be on the default expression but you 100% need it to be optionally removed

[zinc spear]

my god it's already like 10% better

But I dunno there's a certain attitude I like about some expressions or even the default not having it

[dawn pumice]

Why isn’t the model following the muzzle curve

Now this is 10x better

[glossy sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-fist-arthur-憤怒-gif-5794225

[hybrid hill]

in 1 month from now

we won’t have any of this

cherish while it lasts

[glossy sphinx]

won't have any of w-what..?

[strange estuary]

What do I do if I see the Forces model...

[zinc spear]

What is the server getting nuked or smth?

[strange estuary]

Yeah

[past matrix]

only 18 days until the game wards

[loud zinc]

Relation to forces model

[cunning echo]

think the curve is good?

[dawn pumice]

Hmmm

Muzzle not curvy enough

It’s gotta hit the 2 pie radius

[zinc spear]

oh my god its him

[cunning echo]

simple edits

[glossy sphinx]

I wonder what the artist was thinking putting him next to bunny

[still epoch]

I wish geoff didnt control every gaming event nowdays

cuz as someone who likes games

Having geoff as a constant is bleak

[coarse ferry]

agreed

[still epoch]

I wished to see new people that are more comforting than him, or phil, or whatever else

[stiff salmon]

HEY

https://x.com/bradyncollects/status/1992699057241006373?s=20

Bradyn (@bradyncollects)

@Salty_Sealz weirdly there was already an update on the EGS, and this is what it added (ignore my friends mods this is not my screenshot xD)

X · Nov 23, 2025, 8:57 PM

[runic osprey]

Who up riding as giganto

[cunning echo]

wii mote

[coarse ferry]

Fucking wiimote 💀

[strange estuary]

EGS?

[pulsar horizon]

I’m a WiiMote main

[strange estuary]

Can anyone else confirm this?

[stiff salmon]

it likely probably got nuked by now bc this is epic we're talking about

but a good thing is mods aren't gonna break every update

[strange estuary]

Wdym

[stiff salmon]

update might've been wiped off their database

[strange estuary]

Oh

[stiff salmon]

yeah

[strange estuary]

What about the people who've already downloaded it?

[stiff salmon]

we're definitely gonna see what the pacman track looks like next month

[stiff salmon]

automatic roll-back

[strange estuary]

Hmm

Still though, are there more people reporting on this

[stiff salmon]

gonna see throughout the night

[grand cobalt]

the funniest part is that no one else can confirm this because who tf plays crossworlds on epic

oh nvm

https://fixupx.com/8T8999/status/1992775193605865804?s=20

8T8 (@8T8999)

A better look at tangle and whisper in game on extreme gear #SonicRacingCrossWorlds

**👁️ 1 **

FixupX · Nov 24, 2025, 2:00 AM

https://fixupx.com/8T8999/status/1992775483382002114?s=20

8T8 (@8T8999)

Pac man and Blinky on extreme gear

**👁️ 1 **

FixupX · Nov 24, 2025, 2:01 AM

https://fixupx.com/8T8999/status/1992775767097569674?s=20

8T8 (@8T8999)

Nights ands Ai ai on extreme gear

**👁️ 1 **

FixupX · Nov 24, 2025, 2:02 AM

[pulsar horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-gif-21621168

[grand cobalt]

https://x.com/8T8999/status/1992775917945700779?s=20

8T8 (@8T8999)

image of the upcoming pac man track

X · Nov 24, 2025, 2:02 AM

hm doesn’t have the actual name

[untold kayak]

they look really good here imo

[untold kayak]

Ai ai looks so baby here, I love him

Oh and NiGHTS has christmas effects?

[grand cobalt]

just the snow aura

[untold kayak]

Oh no nevermind, Pac-man has them too lol

yeah, yeah. I got it confused lol

[coarse ferry]

The fucking Pac-Man ghost 💀

Giving me king boo vibes there LMAO

[modest parcel]

Everybody say thank you to the crossworlds epic player

[coarse ferry]

OH SHIT WAIT!

WHISPER IS BOOST!

2ND CHAR IS BOOST LET'S GOOOOOOO!

[strange estuary]

I cannot wait for course_name_1502

[untold kayak]

HE'S CALLED BLINKY!!

[coarse ferry]

Also surprised that NiGHTS is speed instead of boost

[strange estuary]

Meanwhile Tangle is acceleration...

[coarse ferry]

sees Tangle and Pac-Man are accel

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-staring-at-sun-cute-dog-dog-closed-eyes-dog-staring-at-sunset-gif-10310895250239531072

[strange estuary]

It's probably fine but

[modest parcel]

[strange estuary]

I don't have any acceleration builds

[coarse ferry]

Same

if NiGHTS has nearly the same stat spread as Shadow/Blaze I am ready

gives more reason to not use Shadow

AiAi being handling is a choice ngl LMAO

[grand cobalt]

already went through the heartbreak of Sage being accel

im numb

[coarse ferry]

Saaaaame

😔

I wanted to use Sage but I hate using accel chars

[strange estuary]

Acceleration stat buff coming soon, trust

[grand cobalt]

oh right !

balance patch bros

has the time come or has it all been cope

[coarse ferry]

Better chance than MKW getting DLC

[modest parcel]

Now there's a game that needs a balance patch

[grand cobalt]

what’s wrong with mayo kar

[grand cobalt]

dexter don’t do the thing where you just don’t answer the question and put a funny sticker

i neeeeeeed this

[modest parcel]

But I've talked/ranted about it before 😭

[coarse ferry]

now do it again

If people can repeat the same topic, so you can

👍

[modest parcel]

I haven't played the game in a long time I'm out of my element

[coarse ferry]

Damn rip

[modest parcel]

But

[grand cobalt]

[modest parcel]

My main point is that the overworld racing should be just as worth engaging with as the lap racing

And to do that would require a reba-and here he comes to tell me no

[lunar trench]

I've seen insane stuff as of lately

Problem is

[grand cobalt]

wait i just realized whisper is a boost character

new main incoming ?

[lunar trench]

This is the kind of shit that only really good players can pull off

[strange estuary]

Well, it was obvious

I should've expected that tbh

[lunar trench]

Thought tangle was gonna be speed tbh

[modest parcel]

Skill floor too high

[grand cobalt]

“well it was-“

https://tenor.com/view/jadareloaded-jadapriint-spongebob-stan-twitter-sand-gif-8956965864798495746

NOT TO ME

[modest parcel]

If it's anything like the bouncing in that one time trial you showed it's too circumstancial

[strange estuary]

I just said how it wasn't to me either

Until I thought about it

[modest parcel]

It's gotta be as accessible as drifting in a kart racer

[lunar trench]

Remember that one guy

Like iirc a month ago

[modest parcel]

Yeah

[lunar trench]

Who said he had never played mk before

[modest parcel]

Oh wait