#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation
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Same
Lmfaoooo frontiers 2 is the new kh4
Superstars 2
I think they’re smart enough to start off the 35th anniversary at TGA
neither will live up to expectations waaaa
Shhhh
bro at this point KH4 doesn’t exist
I feel like that can be fixed without the UE5 tech
😭
It was not
I mean for one i just need it to be gay as hell it could be just one world
Not what I'm referring to
Other one i just want it to be better than the previous one
Yeah but the trade would be a game that looks 10 years behind bcs of he2
Which tweet by kishimoto then
We already had that discussion and it's a lesser evil thing
Imo you can kind of gauge this kind of thing: If a trailer showcases brand new assets and animations, it's gonna be decent budget content with at least 1-2 hours of gameplay
If the trailer is just reusing assets, then that means they barely have anything to show and it's gonna be small scale
You said his tweet was after and it was not, all I'm talking about
Look what message of yours I replied to
My bad
Its aight
yeah, but the issue of large terrain geometry still exists - if they resort to using a height map like frontiers, they're kinda dooming the maps from having well integrated sonic-y design and geometry, but if they manually model the terrain, i think nanite would be a pretty alright solution to optimizing it?
Meanwhile I’m just sitting here waiting for a trademark leak
If it tanks performance, then I don't want it
And it'll for sure tank it because it's UE5
Like, "below 60" tank it
Tbh I don't really know what's stopping them from doing it by hand
The maps weren't that massive
Idk they thought they had something by sculpting it by hand ig
So funny that they made an actual clay model
Like I get why other games do it
It can make things look more realistic quickly
And it's not an issue for like
An fps game or like momentum-less 3rd person game
this genuinely might have been for nothing because i don't think it'd look any different if they had used generic assets instead
Shit like the AC games
If anything it might've limited them
i mean they DID
its just
they limited themselves to laying it out by hand in a way that could be read as a black and white height map
which means you cant like
make holes
or like, any sort of geometry that obscures other geometry
In the sense of like ... They scrambled some aluminum foil then tried to undo the seams by hand
extremely funny possibility of sonic being initially planned for the TGAs but dropping out cos Geoff’s showing his ass rn (god please)
What is the advantage of doing this
any type of "cave" or something of the sort in frontiers is an additional 3D asset added on top of the stage
Like that will change Anything
i think the main advantage is being able to dynamically generate the geometry in chunks
We have been hating this roach for years and he hasnt gone away
Lowkey kinda expecting it
This is ALSO nothing
I'm more prepared for like
which lets them generate the farther away chunks with less geometry
The usual February news
probably a BIG save on preformance
Like, do you think they limited themsleves because of the actual consistency of clay irl and kinda run with what they had made without changing too much ?
Not for frontiers 2 and not for the 35th
Like, there's no way they don't wanna advertise this to millions of people
Everyone and their mothers react to tga
I get ya there but im still not certain for some reason
also i think geoff wants sonic in his events
He does
its a pretty big audience to attract lol
It is
Well tve sonic trailers are always some of the most popular in terms of views
I think Geoff knows sonic gets a good chunk of people
Specially now
Geoff jingling the sonic keys every year for guaranteed viewers
Zero signs
Or are we gonna get something before the event saying
Sonic fans look out for TGA
Zero signs
cuz even frontiers got it
But crossworlds didn’t
Right
And superstars
i think zero signs tbh
I think zero signs is better
I feel like Sega knows fans expect TGA
There will be zero signs, but I already said why
I think putting signs only makes the hype cycle worse

tbf Crossworlds and Crossworlds had no buildup compared to frontiers which already had the central teaser
but I just wanted to say that, I think there will be no signs lol
also Geoff def needs sonic cuz wasn’t that frontiers reveal trailer at 2022 TGA the second highest watched trailer from that show?
People setting themselves up
they already made sonic fans aware of geoff events, now they just need to keep them watching all of them by having a trailer for something sonic in each one
^^^
I legit think Geoff goes to sega and asks if they wanna share any sonic content
Sonic gets him the money
I was talking about it yesterday in the lobby, but they've done this with state of play too
They been at almost all of them this year
Sonic's a virus
SEGA already is going to be there
P4R
stranger than heaven
VF6
jet set
also kiwami 3 but
P4r ? Meh
it has 3M views which is pretty high
Has sonic been at any switch direct this year
Uhhh
no
He does not need Sonic when he has most of everything else
Or Nintendo anything
no
Yea sonic hasnt been in any nintendo direct
Geoff of course does not need Sonic, but he is one of the more popular series to go for views
seems like the elden ring trailer from that event has more views which is expected
I still believe a good chunk, maybe like 10-20k outta the 100k are there for sonic only tbh
Yeah they're consciously directing us away from looking at Nintendo events for news
and switching over to sony
when was the last time he was actually
2023 with superstars
Soup
yeah thats what i remembered
Yeah it's for the best
God i really really hope they ain't making frontiers 2 for the switch. Switch 2 is doing so fucking good rn they don't need allat
I feel like the problem with Nintendo is how they announce third parties games
Wow wait
they #gone
He doesn't need us, but you can't say sonic viewership ain't free as fuck
Compared to like other conferences where they are more frequent
yeah
I'm ngl remember how we all used to say Frontiers marketing was so bad and that all the other games have better marketing
only SOP
I'm ngl maybe Frontiers edging out info and all the controversies is what led to its success
SEGA is.... always pretty bad over marketing
Surely there has to be several other ways to do this with less compromise lol
Thats not true
if frontiers 2 is on switch 1 i hope its a borderline unplayable port because they did not make the game with switch 1 in mind ngl 😭
Is a very small minority fo the reason
No but like I think Frontiers taking over a year to release and edge out content, it's controversy and people's itrigue in that controversy is why Frontiers is so popular
It's the intrigue factor
not TGA but gamescom it was secong most watched trailer inf irst 24 hours
Not really
First open world Sonic game, something never done before, and it has heavily mixed opinions
You say not really but controversy really does sell actually
Didn't help with certain critics even bring up 06
Nah, that first reveal still tarnished like an entire player base from even attempting the game. I remember even when the trailers and footage got better, there were still people adamant about that first reveal
It's more that the reputation still remain sting over the series
They just need to land the first impression
The pre-release perception of "wait this game is actually kind of fun" and how they trickled in info
i think crossworlds was the first game that didnt mention 06
height maps also make texturing a lot quicker, with the specific texture being added based on the angle of the terrain
I know a lot people bought Frontiers purely because it was like a weird intriguing thing that had very mixed responses
I think SXSG didn't either?
Like some weird aura behind it
gamespot
Oh right
oh i forgot but we gonna get TGA nominations next week
Then yeah it is crossworld
thank god
crossworlds save us
journalists fianlly got over it
im so fucking scared
Nah they're still gonna bring it up for frontiers 2
Be real
I think also another thing is that trickling out info keeps Sonic in the public eye
It's kind of the N.Sane Trilogy verus Crash 4 marketing wise
if they didnt do it for crossworlds then they aren't doing it here
Cause N Sane had like over a year of hyping up the game, trickling reveals, massive changes between trailers etc til it dropped.
While Crash 4 had like 4-5 months of build up
Crossworlds is a racing game, there's nothing to really bring up about 06 here. The main thing is the artificial Mario kart beef
Frontiers 2 will have more to compare to being the big mainline
Like directly mentioned at all?
yeah
Geoff is gonna capitalize on the kart beef ain't he
geoff doesn't choose btw
just as a reminder
its mostly just a jury
The sole reason i left sps is because of that first trailer lmaoo, it made people so cynical about the game despite it looking better and better every time
ofc he is😭
Would voice lines hinting at it not count
Mario Kart defo gonna win brah
oh my god bruh
Yearly humiliation ritual
have some confidance freeze jesus christ
its not even about critics both these games has like almost identical scores
It's not about winning or losing, it's about sonic Twit going too far and embarrassing themselves so that people want us to lose
we holdin em back
you are not him dw
guys do you think theyre gonna have IGN first reveals for frontiers 2 lmao
considering the controversy MKW spawned this here its either a 50/50 shot
Tbh I’m not expecting Crossworlds to win anything but I hope it gets far in Players Voice
Only thing MKW is getting anything is just family games
well we get our first gameplay of crossworlds thansk to IGN preview so
SEGA games just rarely win anything. most of the time they are in the nominee and that's it
you do realize we're getting into best race game right
Like it probably won’t because of the over abundance of gacha games but I can dream
the devious metaphor refantazio:
wait did we?
The fact metaphor win nearly ALL nominees back to back is insane
yep
By far the biggest W SEGA/ATLUS has ever gotten
Crossworlds might actually win best racer
Hell na 😭
Wait is that a category?
Omg shut up Nuh uh
Some of you guys have 0 confidence, it shows
Not really
In our exclusive first hands-on with Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds, we found the arcadey action to be snappy and responsive, and the new CrossWorlds mechanic was a blast, as we never knew what to expect on the second lap of every race. Previewed by Jada Griffin
It's more sports game
yes
Crossworlds has the most staying power so far
But yes Crossworld will 100% be there
One thing I'm sad about is that Sonic doesn't have enough prestige to headline TGA with a new game 
was there even enw grand turismo thsi year
My man sonic is getting a participation trophy at BEST
Wasn’t there that one football game people really liked this year
no
There isn't
I think that’d win best sports game
I feel like P6 would be the only thing out of SEGA that can do that
football manager 2026??
what the fuck are you talking about
fuck NO people dont like that LMFAOOO
Ah yes the obscure crossworlds
have you seen steam reviews
Topping charts still
People don't like it buuuuut
Football manager won't make it 💀
They can't help but buy it
Nah it’s the one where it’s like 3rd person
You bet football manager will make it
I can’t remember the name
idk
Rematch
That series can get 0 review score
Istg i dont even play crossworlds that mich and know it will do well
thats what happens when you have mindset for 15 years
And still get 80k ccu on steam lmao
Cuz people are STILL PLAYING IT
Yeah I think that’s the name
Yeah I wouldn't underestimate Crossworld at all
Good lord
I love rematch man
The game still remain stable
Football Manager is unstoppable cause there's no competition
LMFAOOOO
LMAO
The italic *
75 MC score
I do really want it to win smth but tbh I’m so used to Sonic getting screwed over 😭
be a damn fan
Dude I am used to this
have faith
I AM
its understandble
SEGA ALWAYS get screwed in TGA
but guys
I WANNA HAVE FAITH
2024 is the only time they managed to avoid it
i think we need to stop have no faith
Dude crossworlds is a massive success its nothing like previous sonic games
were not in 2010s
BUT THE JUDGES HAVE NO DAMN TASTE
BE A FAN
Its different
this series has quality now
WELCOME TO THE FUCKING CLUB BRO!
Its not judges lmao
its not even the judges too
Its votes
^^^
Like this shit ALWAYS happens
General public votes
and i think so far crossworlds has it due to the publicity it got this year
like we got fucking RDC playing the damn game
I don’t trust Sonic to win anything when the same boring ass cinematic OSTs win year after year
Come on lol
What if we get a Shadow the Hedgehog remake with guns and balls
well they aren't here this year are they
we got a chance
What does one have to do with another
hop on the ride
honestly iw ould put crossworlds ost in nominations
geniuntely top 5 ost
critics dont count remixes btw
If it was up to me I’d have Crossworlds sweep
compare to shadow gens where i drop listeting to ost in like a week or so😭
I like Crossworld but... I'll have to disagree
It's just that this year has very strong amount of game quality
Crossworlds will get on the racing list no doubt
We'll see about that, even tho i still expect exp33 to win cuz it clearly seems like the "erm actually see the industry is full of talented small studios that can make people dream" whatever shpiel
agreed
i forgot they nominated superfarts on family game
People think sonic fans are just a few minority lol
Well that and family games
it losed to wonder in like first 2 second
For sure
Like it will get noms
But it won’t win any if we’re being real
i honestly thinkt heres a big chances of best racing games
MK World
The Mario glaze knows no ends
It's a 50-50 between MKW and Crossworld I have to be real
didnt mario movie lose to last of us
It did yes
Mario is popular, but it's never been a easy sweep for that series either
The FUCK yall pussies talking about this fine evening
Y'all think movie 3 is winning the adaptation of the year ? If it's possible
By that i mean if eligeble
did they even gonan count it
Maybe
what else came out within those 12 months
It was after the last tga
guessing it'll be nominated.
remind me what the rest of the competition will be?
Sonic 3 movie may probably be there
i think movie 3 is in this weird tga limbo when you release something in december and people not nominate you for this year because late and neither next one because people just forget about you
I might be stupid
What game adaptations were this year
Like deadass I can’t remember any
Idk if 3 is legible???
I think it is?
DMC Netflix came out this year
I mean it was after TGA

minecraft, devil may cry uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
last of us 2
thats all i think
movie 3 is eligible
Oh ya last of us 2 winning
No lmfao
secret level? i guess?
except that came out in december i think
they're only calling the first half btw
s2 didn't do as well with critics either
No one liked 2 more than 1
Season 2 tainted that shit for a lot of people
It wasnt nearly as popular either
I’m ngl the Minecraft movie does not feel like it was this year
i haven't seen season 2 yet
oh yeah people were upset over arcane
I can see TLoU season 2 winning
That's why fallout won
Ig maybe DMC wins
thsi movie almost hit billion,was crazy popular in moment but now no one gaf
oh yeah, until dawn was a thing that came out this year
golden joystick nominated it
but no one saw that
why the fuck are yall wanting sonic to win awards from the slop awards of all places
Yeah like it's TGA
i have never seen a movie go rock bottom that FAST
like demanding a banquet from maccy dees
wait what’s the topic right now?
like i saw it popular for 1 week
actually
uh
why are we discussing this here and not in sonic lobby
LMFAO
People gotta rep for what they like if it's in the mixture, just how it goes.
Sometimes people just like discussing things Janneth
It’s moreso just it’d be cool
game adaptation nominees for tga basically
would it
yeah like I thought yall were hyping up another fake ass 4chan leak or something 😭😭
well with that said
EVERYBODY…OUT!!!!!!!
Welll
We were
That was the original convo
A while ago
What's the real issue is how a lot of sonic fans act after NOT getting what they strive for.
(Twitter sonic heads, at least.)
Digitized master emerald 
That Genshin shit never fails to make me cringe.
Yea that’s
the solution: don’t gaf!!! 😹😹😹
is this man’s show and his silly statues really cool
Which we learned was NOT unused in Frontiers 1
is this our barometer
are you guys thinking that’s gonna play a role in the next game or…?
So basically in the lobby someone brought up how there was a broken different colored master emerald alluded to in frontiers
I should’ve never sent this gif here grrr 😭
And I clicked
So this is your fault
wait i replied to the wrong thing
i meant to reply to this
Professor Tori will get the digitized Master Emerald and become DigiTorized
My headcanon is that the ancients tried to replicate the ME but failed
Tho
I personally never thought it’d be something that they’d elaborate on more
It could be that the summit spire leak is just taking notes from that unused plotline
It’s just one of those environmental storytelling things 🙂↕️
#1309325201426743337 message
That… doesnt seem to be unused
No one's listening lil bro 🫵 
Thats whats crazy to me, the line not being unused
Yeah I am legit surprised
I still think the summit spire thing is just another fake leak
I remember triggering it on my first playthrough but I never thought anything of it
I am still guessing the next game is related to the master emerald leak or not
The logo helps with that too
Like with most of these, i swear you can tell they’re fake because they’re written by Sonic fans 😭
A digitized master emerald could be a follow up to this weird thing
Truuuue
And such a small detail is usually picked up by losers like us who consume Sonic 24/6 💔
Maybe they just got that from Ares Island
Back to nothing perhaps
Would be crazy to have a big sonic game that doesnt leak
Just thought it had something to do with the knuckles focus of the island
I don’t think there’ll be anything until reveal 🙂
i have never seen genshin fall like a DAMN rock after 2022
fall where
Oh yeah no doubt it's due to Knuckles
It is a small detail, but a fake leak by a sonic fan would make it obvious they're connecting to that
But to think they even are trying to create their own version of a master emerald says a lot
You know things do you
Tell me!!!
Also I LOVE LEAKS
like since that awards ceremony the damn rat resurged but genshin's reputation went down the drain
It's why I feel liek the next game will give Knuckles a much bigger role
as the admin of tails channel who knows EVERYTHING about the next Sonic game I cannot tell you ANYTHING
reputation doesn't matter much when they have like 4 different gachaslop games each pulling in 3 billion a year
and the game in question is on life support
Bro don't say that wtf
Ur blowing our covers
yes that also doesn't matter when it's still making money 😭
if that sonic hotspot slop guy sees this we’re giving him the sonic maniac role 💔💔💔
😭
Hell yea
I think the fact that none of these leaks even mention the broken emerald on ares or imply the story connects tells me at the very least (even if fake) these leakers weren't thinking about that detail
Fair enough
1000000%
Its def not the same thing
As in it goes from like just rock pieces to actually digitized
It could be a loose connection or whatever
They should get all fake leakers into a tournament and see who can make the best fiction piece on AO3
The thing is that there's legit hundreds of these leaks
Every other day some bored person decided to write something out

But also rarely someone who playtested or focus tested the game might say something that we have 0 way of verifying
I'm just thinking about it again cause we know the 35th anniversary stuff is heavily using the emeralds and the master emerald as part of its marketing
And frankly I don't mind not knowing about that thing, and just not having to hear about the 200 fake ones too
Excluding the summit spire leak
unless they didn’t leak anything at all!!!!! 😹😹
It'd be interesting if they do something with the broken emerald in frontiers
It is curious thats the theme ig
They did left a bit mystery with the master emerald
In the ancients flashbacks
Where it was already on earth
Yeah
So focus on emeralds could be a thing
Sonic Warp 2026 🥹
can the real ZIPPO stand up please
Focus on Jewels could make so Rouge shows up easy on the story lol
What cool word for emerald
Spectre reacting to that not knowing Henry's referring to another summit spire leak
Can be used for a name
I shan't laugh
imma pretend to not know what ur talking about 😁
I still think this is a good contender for the next mainline name thing tobe asked us a few months ago
Sonic Artemis
yo
just like taht one guy in tailschannel
who does the birthdays
Tru
Artemis cuz goddess related to emeralds ig
Did someone ever guess a sonic game name right
Me in 4 weeks
What
🤫
That's a raw ass title name holy fuck
I think they should just call it frontiers 2
Maybe sonic fire bird
And double down on being the sa1 and sa2 of the modern era
I doubt they'll ever go back with numerical names again
SEGA made that clear multiple times
fuck it, Sonic Beyond
I like it
Tag @smoky summit
Its a fangame ass name but still
some kinda tagline like “Beyond frontiers, beyond limits, beyond anything you’ve ever known”
bosh
Ok here is a guess
The logo will be the same style as frontiers
But like
Light blue
Or light pink
Sonic names are usually associated with a gameplay concept a lot of the time, so it's really hard to make up a name
Sonic Beyond works best if it is a floating isle
without knowing the "main thing" of the game
Whats the concept for frontiers
Open zone
Sonic more frontiers
Openness
Right yea
Sonic Colors is a very good example of this due to the wisps
Funnily enough, the only name I can really think of that doesn't really fit that mold is Superstars

True yea
I mean does Mania fit?
I'd say so, it's a combination of old and new zones made by fans
That's why i said warp tbh
With all the phantom ruby shenanigans or whatever
Ngl forgot it said that, just been going frontiers 2 cause everyone already says it
Yeah, Warp sounds like something
It could be Frontiers 2 to be fair
It's gameplay theme will be the same so I mean
something like "Beyond" or "Unbound" is a bit too vague
I mean lots of games have warping
Yeah, but it's never the main thing
Right
Mark me down for frontiers 2 ig
It will be a dark day if you win this one
Will the cyloop return
Sonic Beyond Frontiers
We need longer names
I miss longer names
In anything
Sonic and the Floating Sky Island
Oh
Ok see, now that's both too direct and kind of alludes to being part of the storybook games
Sonic and the Castle in the Sky
Or Sonic and the Sky Castle for lack of infringement
Orrrt
Sonic Skyward
Sonic Sky Island
But no swords
Shoehorned emerald
Sonic Skyward sounds good
Omg
H3ylow knows
Sonic Skyward Phoenix
Totally undeserving of the name
Immortals: Phoenix Rising
Why does it have two names
ts so chopped
I'd argue that name is stupid
Idk go as Metal Gear Rising Revengeance
Sonic, tears of the ancients
Or Sonic Adventure DX Director's Cut

Even worse
They did the thing where you use y instead of i
For extra cool factor
Insane
ph and f can go either way. Phantasy Star is a rad name
bro gassing up Immortals Fenyx Rising as a name when initially it was called "Gods & Monsters"
facts
Thats a horrible name
One thing I love about phantasy star is that it has it's own style when it comes to choosing names
Especially with techniques (magics btw lmao)
I like Gods and Monsters more lmao
I have not seen anyone say that Immortals Fenyx Rising was a better name
It is somehow more memorable
I'd argue that alone unironically killed whatever sales it could've had
True yea
What henry said
Yeah because it has no business having that kind of name lmao
I mean gods and monsters
Hell naw
Whats the gameplay aspect of liberty
Cyberpunk-esque environment + freedom of moving everywhere, even shifting
Sonic Forces 2 trust
Oh that's a very good one
Lowkey with Frontiers 2
And this is a Freeze ass take but
but I think you'd wanna hear this
My prediction is that Frontiers 2 is gonna be a true return to form. Essentially taking Sonic 1's fundementals and applying that to an open world.
It's gonna be somewhat of a departure from Frontiers 1, and a big one from Shadow Gens
they already did boring slow platforming for frontiers
Lowkey never saw fia say something interesting in the entirety of tails channel's existance
That's lowkey just me though..

Already said mine: Sonic Eclipse
Since the series tend to go in space couple times
I think the big thing for Frontiers 2 is to really get down movement
Added
🫡
I want the simple act of jumping platform to platform feel really solid
@toxic vapor @silent haven guess a name for the next game
I feel like Frontiers 1's physics had a really unnatural feeling to it
sure i'll throw my shit at the wall
for the troll pick, Sonic Horizons LMAOO
uuhhhhhh Sonic Limit Break because that sounds cool and edgy
think my big expectations for the next game are 1: a fully open world game over separate open zones and 2: the main four playable like in TFH
anything else is up in the air tbh
I think one of the biggest things I want gone, is that even if they keep the boost, we never really talk about Frontiers 1 zero to one movement style
Literally the game does not allow you to reach higher then a light jog if you don't hold the boost button
Nice
I'm gonna look over some of the unused names for Frontiers 1 cause they could just reuse them
You doing this gif but those who know skull emoji
Unleashed's influence on this series dies with Frontiers 2
Ur acting like idk
idk what
Fuck it, Sonic Dystopia
sonic stuck in traffic
I'm gonna be so real, all of these have a chance lmao
Uhhh, Sonic Nexus. Cause it sounds cool af and I'm both on that Sonic and R&C brainrot.
My goat??
Idk
I would be annoyed at the idea of one open zone
It's funny how no one notices how Mania is just a spirtual successor to Nexus lmao
Added
Sonic Freedom is so overused in the scene but it's a decent name lowkey
I'd be pretty happy with it considering they were trying to go for that with frontiers but couldn't
i just think its kinda basic
one big, massive world but split up with different biomes
Id be annoyed if it limited the variety
doesn't really tell you anything about the gameplay, setting or anything of the like
But maybe
Maaaybe
New sonic team could pull off a varied well structured open zone
I mean, angel island is all one place and look at how varied that is lol
literally just the open zones of frontiers but instead of a loading screen and booting up into a new island you just
run there
Making it a whole open world to explore could be way different
If this leak has any sort of validity (lol), then it means that's probably what they're gonna be doing
It would need immense polish
Cause unless it's going for Mario Odyssey's approach, this screams like smaller open world islands.
Tori's story
Victoria's lab
Make up your mind
Thats what i figured before
Unless they give Frontiers a gameplay loop where you constantly backtrack
"Tori's Story"
Fake
Mario Odyssey
Frontiers is mario odyssey
Oh shit
Frontiers 2 could be the same thing
These are like file names supposedly
I mean, the tallest polish person ever is 2m28 but i don't really see how this would help sonic frontiers 2's development 🤔
He says as maria mentions spagonia and we get a new professor that works in spagonia
Though like the Rangers leaks were so much better than Frontiers 2 cause it feels like everyone knows them and is trying to piggy back off it
What
I don't buy any of the leaks so far but it feels like a safe bet considering it was the plan for frontiers (Kronos & Ouranos initially being one big island before it got split in half in the final game)
Well Ares and Chaos were always seperate islands though
kishimoto did reply to a tweet suggesting that the islands in frontiers 2 would connect iirc
that's not even a leak my guy 💀
frontiers itself was an idea sonic team had in the past that had to wait for hardware to catch up, so I could see fully open world being another idea where they put it on the back burner to try again another game
The thing to me is that
these leaks simply dont have enough female open world
Do they want to drop the open zone right away
It is out in jp
Or
they lack the female open world
TRUE
Like i would expect something different tbh
Like instead of like
5 islands
We get even more open zones
like 8 or something
Smaller Open-Zone Steampunk implies connections with Crossworlds lmao
Do yall think Crossworlds like multi dimensional thing ties with the leaks of Frontiers 2 focusing on dimensional shifting and shit?
Like Steampunk City is very on the nose
WHERE IS THE FEMALE POPULATED OPEN WORLD SEGA
Dude people are so predictable they saw cool cyberpunk city and put it i nthe leak cuz people liked it
😭
These piggy backs aint shit
Well no shit, the leaker is going off the idea that crossworlds original worlds will be in next game
Bro watch there be a cherry blossom and steampunk city and we all proceed to kill ourselves
they should blatantly just copy from bionicle and have the next island be a big robot
Hmm
It could be
if it's who I think it is, I don't know how he managed to be this ass pre-AI era
Xenoblade 1
But I wouldn't say for certain
And I think the cherry blossom thing stems from the powerpoint leak
i dont think its the one youre thinking of
oh, it wasn't || premy ||?
How the fuck will dimensional shifting like work
no it was ||gamerguyd7aces|| lmfao
Same as crossworlds
If this game has Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy -> future elements -> momentum physics - new models for the characters etc etc
Oh, that's not much better, but okay
yeah
How the fuck is a 3-4 year dev time suitable for something this ambitious
id say its a lot worse actually
What if the cyberpunk city is just steampunk city lol
Trick question - it's not, that's why it's a 2027 title
🗿
This is why i just think they are gonna go for more open zones
Watch it not...
And then I get to shove it in your face
Type shit
Like people want one open zone
But i dont think sonic team would be able to gracefully do it
I think various small open zones is the way to go
I never cared for one open-zone cause like
It'd make curating a gameplay loop for it difficult
Small sandboxes make way more sense for sonic team
Multiple open-zones = a solid repeatable gameplay loop
Which probably wouldn't work if Sonic can already run to the other side of the map
That's why Odyssey is the way it is for an open collectathon type
Open world
Yea lmao
Instead of open zone
Also like the "open-zone" and "smaller open-zone" = more than one giant open-zone
you could have a single world that has linear progression though
like, have in-universe obstacles preventing you from going to the other part of the island before you complete the previous part
but when you complete the game the entire island is open for you to run around in
we brought up the tweet that was sent to kishimoto im pretty sure that was the recommendation
They could use the Giganto fog to seperate the islands til you unlock them
Either that or have like
Okay so there is a leak I remember seeing right but I can't fucking search for it, I don't know how I found it in the archives before but it was like some person describing a playtest for the game and it was like they said the world was building itself as they progressed
But I never talked about it cause I can't find it anymore
Idk platforming segments between 2 areas that you need to unlock a new ability to complete
And you unlock that ability when you finish the previous island
Sonic Futures
check /v/ archive
I have, v and vg but no search terms I use bring it up
I'm starting to think I hallucinated it but it was like multiple paragraphs
found what was sent to the goat
Yeah I know what the PowerPoint says
(ignore the quality idk why the image was so wide)
I keep thinking about this leak because of it, but I can't find it
god if only elden ring's open world didn't suck by having 7894655 times the same bosses
when the fajitas ain't sizzlin......
Honestly more than anything I just need frontiers 2 to have more verticality in its level design
Frontiers is so flat it makes me angry 😭
iiiiim hopeful
if anything it only makes sense the direction they took later on in TFH
Fr
Idk I thought it was pretty alright in that department
I need frontiers 2 to be vertical as fuck
- I don't think it's QUITE as important for linear stages as it is for an open world
To need to climb shit
we're gonna have knuckles and tails we're gonna NEED verticality
Because yeah platforming to get to higher places is practically the only real way you can implement platforming as a challenge in an open world, unless it's like directly over the ocean or smth
If you fall, you have to climb back up
Sonic Rush open zone with nothing but bottomless pits
nvm that's just a dimps open zone.
how do you know ths
context clues
yes
they're prominent characters in frontiers with their character arcs and they're playable in TFH, it would be safe to assume that they're playable in frontiers 2
TFH was v clearly a testbed for making em playable next game, yeah
the terrain itself is really really flat tho, except that one chaos island region
I'd expect some tweaks and changes to their movesets (for one tails is absolutely losing that OP as fuck cyclone lol) but they'll be fairly similar I reckon
but even then, the elvation is instant
so it doesn't really help
Really hoping Knuckles gets a huge improvement regarding his climbing
they better figure out that level design verticality because TFH was easily fucked with LOL, but I expect for them to
Or a mild improvement, ig I can take that too
they gotta balance a whole game around these characters...
actually that depends on how you unlock them
but it still mostly applies
100% reckon they will yeah, TFH was done in a year tops after all lol
Wait did u mean the shadow gens white space?
yeah I still believe in Sonic Team's competency ^_^
Yeah it's kinda flat I guess, but also I think I can pretty easily forgive it for that with it being a smaller scale hub and keeping the white space aesthetic from sonic gens
But yeah I'd really like the next game to not be that flat lmao
ye
yeah no it's fine ig
i jst thought it was really flat
yeah
The most fun you get from it is some obscurish puzzles to get up high
if it had verticality like with another level that would've been great
vertical open zone level design with doom morph would be my dream...
Verticality is so important aaaaaa
Shadow Frontiers will happen
can we ban this guy from this channel
like
he isn't gonna learn
i mean its up to u guys
lets do a vote!!!!
laaame he shouldve been a reoccurring character
we need the comedic relief...

honestly, if they pull out that terrain stuff and the island rearrange thing and is insane looking we might get the first sonic goty 🔥
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I'm gonna say it...
cracker
OH BUT WHEN I SAY IT I GET TIMED OUT
Yeah
do we kick wslk or whatever his name is
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If I’m wslk I’m posting gore in the threads before I get kicked
I put it here because of the nature of the person posting
But MyTimetoShine posted that there is an Amy spin-off being planned
For the movie universe
But from there, I have to ask, why there is a sudden Wave of the movie scoopers/leakers going for the Sonic movie stuff? Was it like this in movie 3?
Whos mytimetoshine
Another leaker like Daniel-R-P-K, down to the subscribe thing
Though their leak history is more interesting because their MCU leaks are mostly correct from what I remember but those outside the MCU are more of a mixed bag
There was a theory going around that they are an intern or something at Marvel Studios
Hmm
Ok then
I mean what is to say about an amy spin off
It could be literally anything
Mhm. Though I find it interesting that, assuming it is real, it is considered at all
I confused her the longest time with the lady that helped gorillas Jane Goddall or something
tbf i would not trust her shes a fraud who say the most random shit
but i could see amy spin off happening
Whatever that could be
We are so far away from seeing amy in the movies and how her personality will be
they’re going where the money is
MCU interest is slowly drying up while sonic fans have been proven to throw money at anything vaguely blue so like, of course they’re gonna try and corner that market lol
Video game movies the new wave
I saw people hiding in the bushes for the zelda movie
She’s a movie leaker who’s hit and miss with leaks
Mooostly miss
The most she’s gotten right is Shrek 5 stuff
They're also the same person that sparked the "I heard sonic 4 is going to have romantic comedy elements."
So I'm taking what they say with a huge grain of salt, more so because of their no way home and Deadpool & Wolverine 'scoops' that were bogged down each time as more official stuff came out.
The track record is THINNING in recent times for them, in my eyes.
Plus, I just don't believe that and Amy spinoff is considered THIS early in development.
Do I think it's impossible? No, more so if she's a very fun character for the audience to follow.
But she hasn't even been in front of said audience to see if that reception would be substantial for a spinoff.
(But idk, every studio is looking for that Segway into that little girl to teenage girl appeal post the success of kpop demon hunters, so they might go for it in brainstorming ig.)
Literally I think the only leaks I can believe from them at this point is Shrek stuff
This is, funny
still trying to comprehend leak squad's money scheme
Build rapport, pivot careers
Everything is an audition now
@smoky summit part of me still thinks we might get something unleashed still
I remember saying it could be unleashed sequel we get
Like if all the other leaks are full of honkey this is like next best bet
Lowkey
Maybe
With all the emphasis on spagonia lately plus her, i wouldn't put it out of the question
A new unleashed game could also be a great way introduce humans back into the franchise
And besides that
It's the type of game og unleashed was that has me thinking about it more
if i dont see the same NPCs in Unleashed 2 but with follow throughs from the their personal stories then i will kill the lore team
To make a technically unleashed sequel, it just needs to be a hybrid of boost and combat gameplay with wide hubs to explore
Sound familiar?
Unleashed sequel with open zone gameplay would work so well
unleashed 2 without chip
Unleashed 2 but tangle and whisper are here and they meet humans for the first time 
But seriously tho
Just thinking about it cause of that new rendition of endless possibilities
And the 35th anniversary tagline being "unlimited possibilities"
Also remember how sonictwit complained that the new emerald lore in frontiers contradicted unleashed
I bet ian would love a chance to explain how it don't
dont think theres anything in unleashed that said chip needed the emeralds to fight dark gaia