#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation

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grand cobalt
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i do think we'll get something sonic related though, frontiers 2 or not

dawn pumice
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Same

lunar trench
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Lmfaoooo frontiers 2 is the new kh4

still epoch
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Superstars 2

dawn pumice
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I think they’re smart enough to start off the 35th anniversary at TGA

grand cobalt
lunar trench
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Shhhh

dawn pumice
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bro at this point KH4 doesn’t exist

wise chasm
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I feel like that can be fixed without the UE5 tech

fossil echo
dawn pumice
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😭

fossil echo
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It was not

still epoch
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I mean for one i just need it to be gay as hell it could be just one world

wise chasm
still epoch
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Other one i just want it to be better than the previous one

lunar trench
fossil echo
lunar trench
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We already had that discussion and it's a lesser evil thing

wise chasm
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I said "interview"

smoky summit
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Imo you can kind of gauge this kind of thing: If a trailer showcases brand new assets and animations, it's gonna be decent budget content with at least 1-2 hours of gameplay

If the trailer is just reusing assets, then that means they barely have anything to show and it's gonna be small scale

fossil echo
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You said his tweet was after and it was not, all I'm talking about

wise chasm
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During Frontiers marketing cycle

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Oh, ok

fossil echo
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Look what message of yours I replied to

wise chasm
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My bad

fossil echo
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Its aight

mint umbra
# wise chasm I feel like that can be fixed without the UE5 tech

yeah, but the issue of large terrain geometry still exists - if they resort to using a height map like frontiers, they're kinda dooming the maps from having well integrated sonic-y design and geometry, but if they manually model the terrain, i think nanite would be a pretty alright solution to optimizing it?

raw ether
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Meanwhile I’m just sitting here waiting for a trademark leak

wise chasm
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If it tanks performance, then I don't want it

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And it'll for sure tank it because it's UE5

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Like, "below 60" tank it

fossil echo
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Whatever happened to the sonic spin battle trademark

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That has 0 leaks tied to it

grand cobalt
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i keep forgetting about that one

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i confuse it with that one malware game

smoky summit
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Tbh I don't really know what's stopping them from doing it by hand

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The maps weren't that massive

lunar trench
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Idk they thought they had something by sculpting it by hand ig

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So funny that they made an actual clay model

smoky summit
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Like I get why other games do it

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It can make things look more realistic quickly

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And it's not an issue for like

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An fps game or like momentum-less 3rd person game

grand cobalt
lunar trench
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Shit like the AC games

smoky summit
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But with Sonic they might as well just lay it out by hand

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Yeah exactly

lunar trench
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If anything it might've limited them

mint umbra
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its just

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they limited themselves to laying it out by hand in a way that could be read as a black and white height map

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which means you cant like

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make holes

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or like, any sort of geometry that obscures other geometry

smoky summit
prime hearth
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extremely funny possibility of sonic being initially planned for the TGAs but dropping out cos Geoff’s showing his ass rn (god please)

smoky summit
mint umbra
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any type of "cave" or something of the sort in frontiers is an additional 3D asset added on top of the stage

still epoch
mint umbra
still epoch
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We have been hating this roach for years and he hasnt gone away

fossil echo
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Lowkey kinda expecting it

still epoch
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This is ALSO nothing

fossil echo
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I'm more prepared for like

mint umbra
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which lets them generate the farther away chunks with less geometry

fossil echo
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The usual February news

mint umbra
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probably a BIG save on preformance

lunar trench
lunar trench
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Like, there's no way they don't wanna advertise this to millions of people

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Everyone and their mothers react to tga

fossil echo
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I get ya there but im still not certain for some reason

mint umbra
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also i think geoff wants sonic in his events

still epoch
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He does

mint umbra
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its a pretty big audience to attract lol

still epoch
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It is

lunar trench
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Well tve sonic trailers are always some of the most popular in terms of views

dawn pumice
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I think Geoff knows sonic gets a good chunk of people

still epoch
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Specially now

fossil echo
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Geoff jingling the sonic keys every year for guaranteed viewers

still epoch
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Ok but realistically speaking

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Are we gonna get

still epoch
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Zero signs

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Or are we gonna get something before the event saying

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Sonic fans look out for TGA

dawn pumice
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Zero signs

still epoch
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cuz even frontiers got it

dawn pumice
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But crossworlds didn’t

still epoch
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Right

dawn pumice
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And superstars

mint umbra
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i think zero signs tbh

fossil echo
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I think zero signs is better

dawn pumice
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I feel like Sega knows fans expect TGA

wise chasm
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There will be zero signs, but I already said why

fossil echo
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I think putting signs only makes the hype cycle worse

wise chasm
glossy sphinx
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tbf Crossworlds and Crossworlds had no buildup compared to frontiers which already had the central teaser

but I just wanted to say that, I think there will be no signs lol

dawn pumice
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also Geoff def needs sonic cuz wasn’t that frontiers reveal trailer at 2022 TGA the second highest watched trailer from that show?

fossil echo
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People setting themselves up

mint umbra
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they already made sonic fans aware of geoff events, now they just need to keep them watching all of them by having a trailer for something sonic in each one

dawn pumice
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I legit think Geoff goes to sega and asks if they wanna share any sonic content

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Sonic gets him the money

fossil echo
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They been at almost all of them this year

glossy sphinx
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Sonic's a virus

stiff salmon
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also kiwami 3 but

lunar trench
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P4r ? Meh

mint umbra
fossil echo
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Has sonic been at any switch direct this year

lunar trench
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Uhhh

wise chasm
fossil echo
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Or Nintendo anything

stiff salmon
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no

still epoch
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Yea sonic hasnt been in any nintendo direct

coarse ferry
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Geoff of course does not need Sonic, but he is one of the more popular series to go for views

mint umbra
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seems like the elden ring trailer from that event has more views which is expected

dawn pumice
fossil echo
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Yeah they're consciously directing us away from looking at Nintendo events for news

fossil echo
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Honestly I think it's better

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That they do that

stiff salmon
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honestly yeah

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SOP marketing did them numbers

mint umbra
stiff salmon
still epoch
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Soup

mint umbra
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yeah thats what i remembered

coarse ferry
lunar trench
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God i really really hope they ain't making frontiers 2 for the switch. Switch 2 is doing so fucking good rn they don't need allat

coarse ferry
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I feel like the problem with Nintendo is how they announce third parties games

still epoch
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Wow wait

still epoch
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Shadow Gens wasnt in directs either huh

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Wow

fossil echo
coarse ferry
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Compared to like other conferences where they are more frequent

stiff salmon
toxic vapor
stiff salmon
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only SOP

toxic vapor
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I'm ngl maybe Frontiers edging out info and all the controversies is what led to its success

coarse ferry
smoky summit
mint umbra
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if frontiers 2 is on switch 1 i hope its a borderline unplayable port because they did not make the game with switch 1 in mind ngl 😭

still epoch
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Is a very small minority fo the reason

toxic vapor
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No but like I think Frontiers taking over a year to release and edge out content, it's controversy and people's itrigue in that controversy is why Frontiers is so popular

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It's the intrigue factor

raw osprey
coarse ferry
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Not really

toxic vapor
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First open world Sonic game, something never done before, and it has heavily mixed opinions

coarse ferry
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It's more of keeping the negativity over Sonic

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Especially after with Forces

toxic vapor
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You say not really but controversy really does sell actually

coarse ferry
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Didn't help with certain critics even bring up 06

fossil echo
coarse ferry
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It's more that the reputation still remain sting over the series

fossil echo
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They just need to land the first impression

toxic vapor
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The pre-release perception of "wait this game is actually kind of fun" and how they trickled in info

stiff salmon
mint umbra
toxic vapor
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I know a lot people bought Frontiers purely because it was like a weird intriguing thing that had very mixed responses

coarse ferry
toxic vapor
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Like some weird aura behind it

stiff salmon
coarse ferry
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Oh right

raw osprey
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oh i forgot but we gonna get TGA nominations next week

coarse ferry
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Then yeah it is crossworld

stiff salmon
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thank god

raw osprey
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crossworlds save us

stiff salmon
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journalists fianlly got over it

stiff salmon
fossil echo
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Be real

toxic vapor
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I think also another thing is that trickling out info keeps Sonic in the public eye

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It's kind of the N.Sane Trilogy verus Crash 4 marketing wise

stiff salmon
toxic vapor
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Cause N Sane had like over a year of hyping up the game, trickling reveals, massive changes between trailers etc til it dropped.

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While Crash 4 had like 4-5 months of build up

fossil echo
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Frontiers 2 will have more to compare to being the big mainline

stiff salmon
strange estuary
stiff salmon
fossil echo
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Geoff is gonna capitalize on the kart beef ain't he

stiff salmon
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just as a reminder

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its mostly just a jury

lunar trench
raw osprey
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ofc he is😭

strange estuary
toxic vapor
raw osprey
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oh my god bruh

stiff salmon
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i dont think so

fossil echo
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Yearly humiliation ritual

stiff salmon
raw osprey
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have some confidance freeze jesus christ

stiff salmon
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HAVE FAITH

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FUCK BEING A CRITIC

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BE A FAN FREEZE

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LOCK IN

toxic vapor
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I prefer Crossworlds

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What did Silver say in Sonic Forces??

raw osprey
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its not even about critics both these games has like almost identical scores

fossil echo
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It's not about winning or losing, it's about sonic Twit going too far and embarrassing themselves so that people want us to lose

toxic vapor
raw osprey
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you are not him dw

mint umbra
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guys do you think theyre gonna have IGN first reveals for frontiers 2 lmao

stiff salmon
# toxic vapor

considering the controversy MKW spawned this here its either a 50/50 shot

ember junco
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Tbh I’m not expecting Crossworlds to win anything but I hope it gets far in Players Voice

coarse ferry
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Only thing MKW is getting anything is just family games

raw osprey
coarse ferry
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SEGA games just rarely win anything. most of the time they are in the nominee and that's it

stiff salmon
ember junco
stiff salmon
coarse ferry
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The fact metaphor win nearly ALL nominees back to back is insane

raw osprey
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yep

coarse ferry
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By far the biggest W SEGA/ATLUS has ever gotten

still epoch
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Crossworlds might actually win best racer

dawn pumice
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Hell na 😭

ember junco
still epoch
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Omg shut up Nuh uh

dawn pumice
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It’s either a grand turismo or Mario kart world

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😭

strange estuary
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Some of you guys have 0 confidence, it shows

coarse ferry
raw osprey
coarse ferry
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It's more sports game

stiff salmon
still epoch
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Crossworlds has the most staying power so far

coarse ferry
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But yes Crossworld will 100% be there

smoky summit
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One thing I'm sad about is that Sonic doesn't have enough prestige to headline TGA with a new game bigsad

raw osprey
dawn pumice
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My man sonic is getting a participation trophy at BEST

ember junco
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Wasn’t there that one football game people really liked this year

stiff salmon
coarse ferry
ember junco
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I think that’d win best sports game

smoky summit
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I feel like P6 would be the only thing out of SEGA that can do that

stiff salmon
still epoch
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what the fuck are you talking about

stiff salmon
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fuck NO people dont like that LMFAOOO

still epoch
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Ah yes the obscure crossworlds

stiff salmon
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have you seen steam reviews

still epoch
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Topping charts still

smoky summit
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People don't like it buuuuut

coarse ferry
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Football manager won't make it 💀

smoky summit
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They can't help but buy it

ember junco
smoky summit
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You bet football manager will make it

ember junco
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I can’t remember the name

dawn pumice
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Rematch

smoky summit
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That series can get 0 review score

still epoch
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Istg i dont even play crossworlds that mich and know it will do well

raw osprey
smoky summit
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And still get 80k ccu on steam lmao

still epoch
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Cuz people are STILL PLAYING IT

ember junco
coarse ferry
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Yeah I wouldn't underestimate Crossworld at all

still epoch
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Good lord

dawn pumice
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I love rematch man

coarse ferry
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The game still remain stable

smoky summit
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Football Manager is unstoppable cause there's no competition

fossil echo
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N****s when a game ain't got ball or gun in it

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Shut up I'm black

lunar trench
stiff salmon
smoky summit
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The italic *

stiff salmon
ember junco
stiff salmon
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have faith

ember junco
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I AM

coarse ferry
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SEGA ALWAYS get screwed in TGA

raw osprey
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but guys

ember junco
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I WANNA HAVE FAITH

coarse ferry
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2024 is the only time they managed to avoid it

raw osprey
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i think we need to stop have no faith

still epoch
raw osprey
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were not in 2010s

ember junco
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BUT THE JUDGES HAVE NO DAMN TASTE

stiff salmon
still epoch
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Its different

raw osprey
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this series has quality now

coarse ferry
still epoch
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Its not judges lmao

stiff salmon
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its not even the judges too

still epoch
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Its votes

stiff salmon
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^^^

coarse ferry
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Like this shit ALWAYS happens

still epoch
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General public votes

stiff salmon
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and i think so far crossworlds has it due to the publicity it got this year

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like we got fucking RDC playing the damn game

ember junco
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I don’t trust Sonic to win anything when the same boring ass cinematic OSTs win year after year

still epoch
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Come on lol

strange estuary
stiff salmon
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we got a chance

still epoch
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What does one have to do with another

stiff salmon
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hop on the ride

raw osprey
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honestly iw ould put crossworlds ost in nominations

coarse ferry
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And yet astrobot won last year

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What are you on about?

raw osprey
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i really like it

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steal listening to it

stiff salmon
lunar trench
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It's either gonna be mkwo or exp33

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For ost

stiff salmon
coarse ferry
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I expect E33 I have to be real

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E33 OST praise is way too high

ember junco
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If it was up to me I’d have Crossworlds sweep

raw osprey
coarse ferry
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I like Crossworld but... I'll have to disagree

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It's just that this year has very strong amount of game quality

still epoch
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Crossworlds will get on the racing list no doubt

lunar trench
# stiff salmon critics dont count remixes btw

We'll see about that, even tho i still expect exp33 to win cuz it clearly seems like the "erm actually see the industry is full of talented small studios that can make people dream" whatever shpiel

coarse ferry
raw osprey
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i forgot they nominated superfarts on family game

still epoch
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People think sonic fans are just a few minority lol

coarse ferry
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Well that and family games

raw osprey
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it losed to wonder in like first 2 second

ember junco
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Like it will get noms

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But it won’t win any if we’re being real

still epoch
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Why not lol

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What do you think its gonna win then

raw osprey
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i honestly thinkt heres a big chances of best racing games

ember junco
raw osprey
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legit only real competitor is world

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but you know what

ember junco
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The Mario glaze knows no ends

coarse ferry
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It's a 50-50 between MKW and Crossworld I have to be real

raw osprey
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fuck this plumber

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ember junco
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MMMMMMMM

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COOK

raw osprey
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didnt mario movie lose to last of us

coarse ferry
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It did yes

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Mario is popular, but it's never been a easy sweep for that series either

past matrix
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The FUCK yall pussies talking about this fine evening

lunar trench
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Y'all think movie 3 is winning the adaptation of the year ? If it's possible

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By that i mean if eligeble

raw osprey
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did they even gonan count it

still epoch
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Maybe

wise chasm
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what else came out within those 12 months

still epoch
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It was after the last tga

dense snow
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guessing it'll be nominated.
remind me what the rest of the competition will be?

coarse ferry
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Sonic 3 movie may probably be there

raw osprey
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i think movie 3 is in this weird tga limbo when you release something in december and people not nominate you for this year because late and neither next one because people just forget about you

ember junco
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I might be stupid

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What game adaptations were this year

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Like deadass I can’t remember any

dawn pumice
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I think it is?

wise chasm
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DMC Netflix came out this year

ember junco
wise chasm
raw osprey
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last of us 2

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thats all i think

stiff salmon
dawn pumice
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Oh ya last of us 2 winning

still epoch
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No lmfao

dense snow
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secret level? i guess?

except that came out in december i think

stiff salmon
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s2 didn't do as well with critics either

still epoch
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No one liked 2 more than 1

past matrix
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Season 2 tainted that shit for a lot of people

still epoch
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It wasnt nearly as popular either

dense snow
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think the same thing happened with arcane season 2 from what i recall

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i think

ember junco
dense snow
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i haven't seen season 2 yet

coarse ferry
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oh yeah people were upset over arcane

wise chasm
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I can see TLoU season 2 winning

lunar trench
still epoch
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It could win but its not nearly as definite

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As 1

ember junco
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Ig maybe DMC wins

raw osprey
dense snow
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oh yeah, until dawn was a thing that came out this year

stiff salmon
dense snow
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but no one saw that

prime hearth
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why the fuck are yall wanting sonic to win awards from the slop awards of all places

coarse ferry
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Yeah like it's TGA

stiff salmon
coarse ferry
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This shit is nothing new

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I care more being part of the nominee that never is in

prime hearth
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like demanding a banquet from maccy dees

hybrid hill
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wait what’s the topic right now?

stiff salmon
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like i saw it popular for 1 week

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actually

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uh

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why are we discussing this here and not in sonic lobby

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LMFAO

past matrix
still epoch
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Sometimes people just like discussing things Janneth

ember junco
dense snow
prime hearth
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would it

hybrid hill
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well with that said

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EVERYBODY…OUT!!!!!!!

still epoch
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We were

fossil echo
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That was the original convo

still epoch
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A while ago

past matrix
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What's the real issue is how a lot of sonic fans act after NOT getting what they strive for.

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(Twitter sonic heads, at least.)

fossil echo
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Digitized master emerald vectorRunners

past matrix
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That Genshin shit never fails to make me cringe.

still epoch
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Yea that’s

hybrid hill
still epoch
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Thats the og convo

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Digitized M.E.

prime hearth
still epoch
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Which we learned was NOT unused in Frontiers 1

prime hearth
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is this our barometer

hybrid hill
fossil echo
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So basically in the lobby someone brought up how there was a broken different colored master emerald alluded to in frontiers

hybrid hill
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I should’ve never sent this gif here grrr 😭

dense snow
fossil echo
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And I clicked

still epoch
dense snow
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wait i replied to the wrong thing

dense snow
ember junco
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Professor Tori will get the digitized Master Emerald and become DigiTorized

hybrid hill
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Tho

hybrid hill
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I personally never thought it’d be something that they’d elaborate on more

still epoch
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It could be that the summit spire leak is just taking notes from that unused plotline

hybrid hill
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It’s just one of those environmental storytelling things 🙂‍↕️

fossil echo
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#1309325201426743337 message

still epoch
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That… doesnt seem to be unused

lunar trench
still epoch
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Thats whats crazy to me, the line not being unused

coarse ferry
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Yeah I am legit surprised

hybrid hill
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I still think the summit spire thing is just another fake leak

fossil echo
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I remember triggering it on my first playthrough but I never thought anything of it

coarse ferry
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I am still guessing the next game is related to the master emerald leak or not

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The logo helps with that too

hybrid hill
still epoch
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A digitized master emerald could be a follow up to this weird thing

hybrid hill
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And such a small detail is usually picked up by losers like us who consume Sonic 24/6 💔

still epoch
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Maybe they just got that from Ares Island

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Back to nothing perhaps

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Would be crazy to have a big sonic game that doesnt leak

fossil echo
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Just thought it had something to do with the knuckles focus of the island

still epoch
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Since what

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Lost World

hybrid hill
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I don’t think there’ll be anything until reveal 🙂

stiff salmon
wise chasm
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fall where

coarse ferry
fossil echo
coarse ferry
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But to think they even are trying to create their own version of a master emerald says a lot

still epoch
stiff salmon
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like since that awards ceremony the damn rat resurged but genshin's reputation went down the drain

coarse ferry
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It's why I feel liek the next game will give Knuckles a much bigger role

hybrid hill
silent haven
stiff salmon
lunar trench
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Ur blowing our covers

silent haven
hybrid hill
still epoch
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Hell yea

fossil echo
still epoch
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Fair enough

still epoch
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Its def not the same thing

hybrid hill
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yeah I guess but again

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I don’t like looking deeply into these that much

still epoch
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As in it goes from like just rock pieces to actually digitized

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It could be a loose connection or whatever

hybrid hill
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They should get all fake leakers into a tournament and see who can make the best fiction piece on AO3

mint umbra
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The thing is that there's legit hundreds of these leaks

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Every other day some bored person decided to write something out

mint umbra
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But also rarely someone who playtested or focus tested the game might say something that we have 0 way of verifying

hybrid hill
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like I said

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see u guys at reveal

fossil echo
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I'm just thinking about it again cause we know the 35th anniversary stuff is heavily using the emeralds and the master emerald as part of its marketing

still epoch
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Does anyone have the rangers leak

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Im nostalgic

mint umbra
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And frankly I don't mind not knowing about that thing, and just not having to hear about the 200 fake ones too

fossil echo
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Excluding the summit spire leak

hybrid hill
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unless they didn’t leak anything at all!!!!! 😹😹

fossil echo
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It'd be interesting if they do something with the broken emerald in frontiers

still epoch
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They did left a bit mystery with the master emerald

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In the ancients flashbacks

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Where it was already on earth

fossil echo
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Yeah

still epoch
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So focus on emeralds could be a thing

lunar trench
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Sonic Warp 2026 🥹

hybrid hill
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can the real ZIPPO stand up please

still epoch
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Focus on Jewels could make so Rouge shows up easy on the story lol

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What cool word for emerald

fossil echo
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Spectre reacting to that not knowing Henry's referring to another summit spire leak

still epoch
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Can be used for a name

fossil echo
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I shan't laugh

still epoch
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Spetre is just very supportive

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See

hybrid hill
lunar trench
still epoch
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Sonic Artemis

hybrid hill
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just like taht one guy in tailschannel

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who does the birthdays

still epoch
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Tru

hybrid hill
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pretty cool theyre still at it

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thank you for being awesome!!! @tranquil hornet

still epoch
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Artemis cuz goddess related to emeralds ig

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Did someone ever guess a sonic game name right

lunar trench
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Me in 4 weeks

still epoch
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What

lunar trench
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🤫

still epoch
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SONIC PHOENIX

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tc always knows something

coarse ferry
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That's a raw ass title name holy fuck

still epoch
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H3ylow has leaked the name

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We need sonic city to report it

lunar trench
fossil echo
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I think they should just call it frontiers 2

still epoch
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Maybe sonic fire bird

fossil echo
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And double down on being the sa1 and sa2 of the modern era

toxic vapor
#

What if they call the game uhh

#

Sonic Rangers lmaooo

coarse ferry
#

I doubt they'll ever go back with numerical names again

#

SEGA made that clear multiple times

prime hearth
#

fuck it, Sonic Beyond

still epoch
#

I like it

lunar trench
still epoch
#

Its a fangame ass name but still

lunar trench
#

He offers a year of nitro

#

If you get it right

coarse ferry
#

I guess I could go for one, hmm....

#

Sonic Eclipse

prime hearth
#

bosh

still epoch
#

Ok here is a guess

#

The logo will be the same style as frontiers

#

But like

#

Light blue

#

Or light pink

toxic vapor
#

Bro they better not take Horizons

#

I'll kms

still epoch
#

They could

#

Its too obvious but who cares

coarse ferry
#

Sonic Zero Horizons

#

🙂

wise chasm
#

Sonic names are usually associated with a gameplay concept a lot of the time, so it's really hard to make up a name

still epoch
#

Sonic Beyond works best if it is a floating isle

wise chasm
#

without knowing the "main thing" of the game

still epoch
#

Whats the concept for frontiers

wise chasm
#

Open zone

still epoch
#

Sonic more frontiers

wise chasm
#

Openness

still epoch
#

Right yea

coarse ferry
#

Sonic Colors is a very good example of this due to the wisps

still epoch
wise chasm
#

Funnily enough, the only name I can really think of that doesn't really fit that mold is Superstars

still epoch
still epoch
#

I mean does Mania fit?

wise chasm
#

I'd say so, it's a combination of old and new zones made by fans

wise chasm
#

With all the phantom ruby shenanigans or whatever

fossil echo
# still epoch

Ngl forgot it said that, just been going frontiers 2 cause everyone already says it

wise chasm
still epoch
#

It could be Frontiers 2 to be fair

fossil echo
#

It's gameplay theme will be the same so I mean

wise chasm
#

something like "Beyond" or "Unbound" is a bit too vague

still epoch
#

I mean lots of games have warping

wise chasm
#

Yeah, but it's never the main thing

still epoch
#

Right

smoky summit
fossil echo
#

Mark me down for frontiers 2 ig

smoky summit
#

It will be a dark day if you win this one

still epoch
#

Will the cyloop return

#

Sonic Beyond Frontiers

#

We need longer names

#

I miss longer names

#

In anything

smoky summit
#

What longer names

#

Sonic Lost World?

#

Lmao

still epoch
#

Sonic and the Floating Sky Island

smoky summit
#

Oh

wise chasm
#

Ok see, now that's both too direct and kind of alludes to being part of the storybook games

smoky summit
#

Sonic and the Castle in the Sky
Or Sonic and the Sky Castle for lack of infringement

#

Orrrt

#

Sonic Skyward

still epoch
#

Sonic Sky Island

smoky summit
#

But no swords

still epoch
#

Something sky

#

Sonic Skyward Emerald

smoky summit
#

Shoehorned emerald

wise chasm
#

Sonic Skyward sounds good

still epoch
#

It does

#

Would sonic have bird powers

#

Gasp

#

Phoenix

smoky summit
#

Omg

still epoch
#

H3ylow knows

smoky summit
#

Reminds of that random game

#

Called Phoenix Rising

#

And it's so ass

still epoch
#

Sonic Skyward Phoenix

smoky summit
#

Totally undeserving of the name

wise chasm
#

Immortals: Phoenix Rising

smoky summit
#

Yeah that

#

Sick name for middling game

still epoch
#

Why does it have two names

toxic vapor
wise chasm
#

I'd argue that name is stupid

smoky summit
#

Idk go as Metal Gear Rising Revengeance

lunar trench
smoky summit
#

Or Sonic Adventure DX Director's Cut

wise chasm
#

sorry, I lied, it's not Phoenix Rising

#

it's Immortals: Fenyx Rising

smoky summit
#

Even worse

#

They did the thing where you use y instead of i

#

For extra cool factor

#

Insane

#

ph and f can go either way. Phantasy Star is a rad name

wise chasm
#

bro gassing up Immortals Fenyx Rising as a name when initially it was called "Gods & Monsters"

coarse ferry
#

One thing I love about phantasy star is that it has it's own style when it comes to choosing names

#

Especially with techniques (magics btw lmao)

still epoch
#

I like Gods and Monsters more lmao

wise chasm
#

I have not seen anyone say that Immortals Fenyx Rising was a better name

still epoch
#

It is somehow more memorable

wise chasm
#

I'd argue that alone unironically killed whatever sales it could've had

still epoch
#

True yea

smoky summit
smoky summit
still epoch
#

I mean gods and monsters

smoky summit
#

Hell naw

dawn pumice
#

Sonic Liberty

still epoch
#

Whats the gameplay aspect of liberty

dawn pumice
#

Cyberpunk-esque environment + freedom of moving everywhere, even shifting

toxic vapor
#

Sonic Forces 2 trust

coarse ferry
dawn pumice
#

If u want a boring ass one

#

Then uhhh

#

Idk

toxic vapor
#

Lowkey with Frontiers 2

#

And this is a Freeze ass take but

#

but I think you'd wanna hear this

#

My prediction is that Frontiers 2 is gonna be a true return to form. Essentially taking Sonic 1's fundementals and applying that to an open world.

#

It's gonna be somewhat of a departure from Frontiers 1, and a big one from Shadow Gens

silent haven
#

they already did boring slow platforming for frontiers

smoky summit
#

Added Sonic Liberty

#

Any more guessers?

toxic vapor
#

Lowkey never saw fia say something interesting in the entirety of tails channel's existance

#

That's lowkey just me though..

silent haven
coarse ferry
toxic vapor
coarse ferry
#

Since the series tend to go in space couple times

toxic vapor
#

I think the big thing for Frontiers 2 is to really get down movement

smoky summit
#

Added

coarse ferry
#

🫡

toxic vapor
#

I want the simple act of jumping platform to platform feel really solid

smoky summit
#

@toxic vapor @silent haven guess a name for the next game

toxic vapor
#

I feel like Frontiers 1's physics had a really unnatural feeling to it

silent haven
toxic vapor
#

for the troll pick, Sonic Horizons LMAOO

silent haven
#

uuhhhhhh Sonic Limit Break because that sounds cool and edgy

prime hearth
#

think my big expectations for the next game are 1: a fully open world game over separate open zones and 2: the main four playable like in TFH

#

anything else is up in the air tbh

toxic vapor
#

I think one of the biggest things I want gone, is that even if they keep the boost, we never really talk about Frontiers 1 zero to one movement style

#

Literally the game does not allow you to reach higher then a light jog if you don't hold the boost button

smoky summit
toxic vapor
#

I'm gonna look over some of the unused names for Frontiers 1 cause they could just reuse them

toxic vapor
#

Unleashed's influence on this series dies with Frontiers 2

lunar trench
#

Ur acting like idk

toxic vapor
#

idk what

wise chasm
#

Fuck it, Sonic Dystopia

smoky summit
#

Ok

mint umbra
#

sonic stuck in traffic

smoky summit
#

1 of us better get this

#

Or 1 word right

#

Lmao

toxic vapor
#

I'm gonna be so real, all of these have a chance lmao

spice axle
#

Uhhh, Sonic Nexus. Cause it sounds cool af and I'm both on that Sonic and R&C brainrot.

lunar trench
still epoch
#

I would be annoyed at the idea of one open zone

toxic vapor
#

It's funny how no one notices how Mania is just a spirtual successor to Nexus lmao

smoky summit
#

Added

toxic vapor
#

Sonic Freedom is so overused in the scene but it's a decent name lowkey

prime hearth
mint umbra
prime hearth
#

one big, massive world but split up with different biomes

still epoch
mint umbra
#

doesn't really tell you anything about the gameplay, setting or anything of the like

still epoch
#

But maybe

#

Maaaybe

#

New sonic team could pull off a varied well structured open zone

prime hearth
still epoch
#

Yea but its not an open world is it

#

Its just a setting

#

In a game that uses stages

prime hearth
#

literally just the open zones of frontiers but instead of a loading screen and booting up into a new island you just

#

run there

still epoch
#

Making it a whole open world to explore could be way different

toxic vapor
still epoch
#

It would need immense polish

toxic vapor
#

Cause unless it's going for Mario Odyssey's approach, this screams like smaller open world islands.

smoky summit
#

Tori's story
Victoria's lab
Make up your mind

still epoch
#

Thats what i figured before

toxic vapor
#

Unless they give Frontiers a gameplay loop where you constantly backtrack

still epoch
#

Mario Odyssey

coarse ferry
#

final area: Angel Island

#

trust me 🗿

still epoch
#

Frontiers is mario odyssey

smoky summit
#

Oh shit

still epoch
#

Frontiers 2 could be the same thing

smoky summit
#

Is the new manga chapter out

toxic vapor
lunar trench
fossil echo
toxic vapor
#

Though like the Rangers leaks were so much better than Frontiers 2 cause it feels like everyone knows them and is trying to piggy back off it

fallen tendon
#

What

prime hearth
toxic vapor
#

Well Ares and Chaos were always seperate islands though

mint umbra
#

kishimoto did reply to a tweet suggesting that the islands in frontiers 2 would connect iirc

coarse ferry
prime hearth
#

frontiers itself was an idea sonic team had in the past that had to wait for hardware to catch up, so I could see fully open world being another idea where they put it on the back burner to try again another game

still epoch
#

The thing to me is that

mint umbra
#

these leaks simply dont have enough female open world

still epoch
#

Do they want to drop the open zone right away

smoky summit
#

It is out in jp

still epoch
#

Or

mint umbra
#

they lack the female open world

still epoch
#

Do they want to like

#

Polish it up

still epoch
#

Like i would expect something different tbh

#

Like instead of like

#

5 islands

#

We get even more open zones

#

like 8 or something

toxic vapor
#

Smaller Open-Zone Steampunk implies connections with Crossworlds lmao

mint umbra
toxic vapor
#

Do yall think Crossworlds like multi dimensional thing ties with the leaks of Frontiers 2 focusing on dimensional shifting and shit?

#

Like Steampunk City is very on the nose

mint umbra
#

WHERE IS THE FEMALE POPULATED OPEN WORLD SEGA

still epoch
#

Dude people are so predictable they saw cool cyberpunk city and put it i nthe leak cuz people liked it

still epoch
#

These piggy backs aint shit

fossil echo
toxic vapor
#

Bro watch there be a cherry blossom and steampunk city and we all proceed to kill ourselves

prime hearth
#

they should blatantly just copy from bionicle and have the next island be a big robot

wise chasm
# mint umbra

if it's who I think it is, I don't know how he managed to be this ass pre-AI era

strange estuary
#

But I wouldn't say for certain

fossil echo
#

And I think the cherry blossom thing stems from the powerpoint leak

mint umbra
wise chasm
#

oh, it wasn't || premy ||?

toxic vapor
#

How the fuck will dimensional shifting like work

mint umbra
fossil echo
toxic vapor
#

If this game has Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy -> future elements -> momentum physics - new models for the characters etc etc

wise chasm
#

Oh, that's not much better, but okay

mint umbra
#

yeah

toxic vapor
#

How the fuck is a 3-4 year dev time suitable for something this ambitious

mint umbra
#

id say its a lot worse actually

fossil echo
#

What if the cyberpunk city is just steampunk city lol

wise chasm
#

🗿

still epoch
#

This is why i just think they are gonna go for more open zones

toxic vapor
#

And then I get to shove it in your face

#

Type shit

still epoch
#

Like people want one open zone

#

But i dont think sonic team would be able to gracefully do it

#

I think various small open zones is the way to go

toxic vapor
#

I never cared for one open-zone cause like

#

It'd make curating a gameplay loop for it difficult

still epoch
#

Small sandboxes make way more sense for sonic team

toxic vapor
#

Multiple open-zones = a solid repeatable gameplay loop

#

Which probably wouldn't work if Sonic can already run to the other side of the map

fossil echo
#

The thing that gets me is
If it really is just one area but big

#

Is that not just

toxic vapor
#

That's why Odyssey is the way it is for an open collectathon type

fossil echo
#

Open world

still epoch
#

Yea lmao

fossil echo
#

Instead of open zone

toxic vapor
#

Also like the "open-zone" and "smaller open-zone" = more than one giant open-zone

still epoch
#

The Open Zone term came from it being multiple

#

Me too lol

mint umbra
#

like, have in-universe obstacles preventing you from going to the other part of the island before you complete the previous part

#

but when you complete the game the entire island is open for you to run around in

glossy sphinx
toxic vapor
mint umbra
#

Either that or have like

fossil echo
#

Okay so there is a leak I remember seeing right but I can't fucking search for it, I don't know how I found it in the archives before but it was like some person describing a playtest for the game and it was like they said the world was building itself as they progressed

#

But I never talked about it cause I can't find it anymore

mint umbra
#

Idk platforming segments between 2 areas that you need to unlock a new ability to complete

#

And you unlock that ability when you finish the previous island

fallen tendon
fossil echo
#

I have, v and vg but no search terms I use bring it up

#

I'm starting to think I hallucinated it but it was like multiple paragraphs

toxic vapor
glossy sphinx
#

found what was sent to the goat

fossil echo
#

Yeah I know what the PowerPoint says

glossy sphinx
#

(ignore the quality idk why the image was so wide)

fossil echo
#

I keep thinking about this leak because of it, but I can't find it

lunar trench
prime hearth
mint umbra
#

Honestly more than anything I just need frontiers 2 to have more verticality in its level design

#

Frontiers is so flat it makes me angry 😭

lunar trench
#

fr

#

and shadow gens isn't really any better

glossy sphinx
#

if anything it only makes sense the direction they took later on in TFH

still epoch
mint umbra
still epoch
#

I need frontiers 2 to be vertical as fuck

mint umbra
#
  • I don't think it's QUITE as important for linear stages as it is for an open world
still epoch
#

To need to climb shit

glossy sphinx
#

we're gonna have knuckles and tails we're gonna NEED verticality

mint umbra
#

Because yeah platforming to get to higher places is practically the only real way you can implement platforming as a challenge in an open world, unless it's like directly over the ocean or smth

#

If you fall, you have to climb back up

glossy sphinx
#

Sonic Rush open zone with nothing but bottomless pits

#

nvm that's just a dimps open zone.

dusty osprey
glossy sphinx
#

context clues

dusty osprey
#

so this is speculation on your part

#

just making sure

glossy sphinx
#

yes

#

they're prominent characters in frontiers with their character arcs and they're playable in TFH, it would be safe to assume that they're playable in frontiers 2

prime hearth
#

TFH was v clearly a testbed for making em playable next game, yeah

strange estuary
#

They better be playable

#

I'd love to see their playstyles refined

lunar trench
prime hearth
#

I'd expect some tweaks and changes to their movesets (for one tails is absolutely losing that OP as fuck cyclone lol) but they'll be fairly similar I reckon

lunar trench
#

so it doesn't really help

strange estuary
glossy sphinx
strange estuary
#

Or a mild improvement, ig I can take that too

glossy sphinx
#

they gotta balance a whole game around these characters...

#

actually that depends on how you unlock them

#

but it still mostly applies

prime hearth
mint umbra
glossy sphinx
mint umbra
#

Yeah it's kinda flat I guess, but also I think I can pretty easily forgive it for that with it being a smaller scale hub and keeping the white space aesthetic from sonic gens

#

But yeah I'd really like the next game to not be that flat lmao

lunar trench
#

yeah no it's fine ig

#

i jst thought it was really flat

still epoch
#

I do not like it

#

Its not even fun to traverse

lunar trench
#

yeah

still epoch
#

The most fun you get from it is some obscurish puzzles to get up high

lunar trench
#

if it had verticality like with another level that would've been great

glossy sphinx
#

vertical open zone level design with doom morph would be my dream...

still epoch
#

Verticality is so important aaaaaa

strange estuary
stiff salmon
#

like

#

he isn't gonna learn

hybrid hill
#

lets do a vote!!!!

past matrix
#

Yall are gonna create an villain

#

Mf gonna make a Metal Tails Channel server.

wide portal
#

I’ll be the Dr. Eggman then

#

pathetic, Metal Tails’ Channel! Try harder!

stiff salmon
glossy sphinx
#

we need the comedic relief...

silent haven
strange estuary
#

What the hell did I miss

#

Why are you all focusing on this one dude

cunning echo
#

honestly, if they pull out that terrain stuff and the island rearrange thing and is insane looking we might get the first sonic goty 🔥

young raptor
# stiff salmon can we ban this guy from this channel

I've revoked their access to post messages in the threads. @fallen tendon, you will still be able to read messages, but since you have continued to just drop links and not provide thoughtful commentary, ignoring multiple other peers and moderator's requests to do so, I do not believe it is with best interest that you continue posting here.

If you move posting to #sonic-lobby or other locations on this server with the same concept of posting links and not providing thoughtful commentary, to supplement not having this location to post, you will be banned.

humble drum
verbal tundra
#

OH BUT WHEN I SAY IT I GET TIMED OUT

strange estuary
#

Yeah

hybrid hill
# hybrid hill
poll_question_text

do we kick wslk or whatever his name is

victor_answer_votes

11

total_votes

13

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

yea!!!!

victor_answer_emoji_id

1279195891319705682

victor_answer_emoji_name

yipee

victor_answer_emoji_animated

true

verbal tundra
#

If I’m wslk I’m posting gore in the threads before I get kicked

untold kayak
#

I put it here because of the nature of the person posting

#

But MyTimetoShine posted that there is an Amy spin-off being planned

#

For the movie universe

#

But from there, I have to ask, why there is a sudden Wave of the movie scoopers/leakers going for the Sonic movie stuff? Was it like this in movie 3?

still epoch
#

Whos mytimetoshine

untold kayak
# still epoch Whos mytimetoshine

Another leaker like Daniel-R-P-K, down to the subscribe thing

Though their leak history is more interesting because their MCU leaks are mostly correct from what I remember but those outside the MCU are more of a mixed bag

#

There was a theory going around that they are an intern or something at Marvel Studios

still epoch
#

Hmm

#

Ok then

#

I mean what is to say about an amy spin off

#

It could be literally anything

untold kayak
#

Mhm. Though I find it interesting that, assuming it is real, it is considered at all

raw osprey
still epoch
#

I confused her the longest time with the lady that helped gorillas Jane Goddall or something

raw osprey
# raw osprey

tbf i would not trust her shes a fraud who say the most random shit

#

but i could see amy spin off happening

still epoch
#

Whatever that could be

#

We are so far away from seeing amy in the movies and how her personality will be

prime hearth
#

MCU interest is slowly drying up while sonic fans have been proven to throw money at anything vaguely blue so like, of course they’re gonna try and corner that market lol

dusty osprey
#

I saw people hiding in the bushes for the zelda movie

pulsar horizon
#

Mooostly miss

#

The most she’s gotten right is Shrek 5 stuff

past matrix
#

The track record is THINNING in recent times for them, in my eyes.

pulsar horizon
#

Yeah it’s hit and miss

#

Like I said mostly miss

past matrix
#

Plus, I just don't believe that and Amy spinoff is considered THIS early in development.

Do I think it's impossible? No, more so if she's a very fun character for the audience to follow.

#

But she hasn't even been in front of said audience to see if that reception would be substantial for a spinoff.

#

(But idk, every studio is looking for that Segway into that little girl to teenage girl appeal post the success of kpop demon hunters, so they might go for it in brainstorming ig.)

pulsar horizon
#

Literally I think the only leaks I can believe from them at this point is Shrek stuff

still epoch
#

Amy….

#

Shes never gonna be the ideal Amy Rose

autumn yacht
#

still trying to comprehend leak squad's money scheme

dusty osprey
#

Everything is an audition now

fossil echo
#

@smoky summit part of me still thinks we might get something unleashed still

#

I remember saying it could be unleashed sequel we get

forest fractal
#

Tori as the new Pickle

#

and all she says "wheres the proof tho"

fossil echo
#

Like if all the other leaks are full of honkey this is like next best bet

fossil echo
#

Maybe

#

With all the emphasis on spagonia lately plus her, i wouldn't put it out of the question

#

A new unleashed game could also be a great way introduce humans back into the franchise

#

And besides that

#

It's the type of game og unleashed was that has me thinking about it more

forest fractal
#

if i dont see the same NPCs in Unleashed 2 but with follow throughs from the their personal stories then i will kill the lore team

fossil echo
#

To make a technically unleashed sequel, it just needs to be a hybrid of boost and combat gameplay with wide hubs to explore

#

Sound familiar?

#

Unleashed sequel with open zone gameplay would work so well

forest fractal
#

unleashed 2 without chip

fossil echo
#

Unleashed 2 but tangle and whisper are here and they meet humans for the first time vectorRunners

#

But seriously tho

#

Just thinking about it cause of that new rendition of endless possibilities

#

And the 35th anniversary tagline being "unlimited possibilities"

#

Also remember how sonictwit complained that the new emerald lore in frontiers contradicted unleashed

#

I bet ian would love a chance to explain how it don't

forest fractal
#

dont think theres anything in unleashed that said chip needed the emeralds to fight dark gaia