#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation

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coarse ferry
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Then shi-- oh wait Crossworld network

smoky summit
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Who dat

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Kirby?

modest parcel
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Oh shit more 3D Kirbo

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I have a mighty need

smoky summit
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DLC for a game where you can fly bigsad

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How do they make it more engaging

modest parcel
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Idc 3D is just so much more interesting

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You move around in a circle

smoky summit
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Fax

coarse ferry
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True

modest parcel
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It's cool

coarse ferry
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I am glad that Kirby works so well for 3D

smoky summit
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3D = 2D^2

modest parcel
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Man Kirby is the one series was I like, I don't know if I enjoy these games, but if it was 3D I would probably eat it up like crazy

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And lo and behold, they did it

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And it's awesome

smoky summit
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If Shinobi was 3D you'd eat it up like crazy too?

modest parcel
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Oh yeah

smoky summit
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Ima need to hook you up with a ps2

modest parcel
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I saw that platinum games shinobi game and that looked sick

coarse ferry
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I would love to see if they attempt a 3D Shinobi game, but for now peak game first

smoky summit
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You know, Lizardcube are geniuses

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They saw people complain that games dont look like the concept art

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So they made the concept art the game

modest parcel
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Opened chrome and it's right where I left it LMAO

smoky summit
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Is it Sonic Racing?

modest parcel
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Dino Jungle's song sucked the wind out of me

smoky summit
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Did the entire ost leak btw?

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Or just the beta stages

modest parcel
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I think so

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I saw someone mention an eggman stage being hard rock while on break

smoky summit
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Ok but where is it

modest parcel
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I don't think we've seen an Eggman stage yet

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Idk

wide portal
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looks like the entire ost since there’s songs for tracks that seemingly aren’t available in the demo?

smoky summit
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I know it's a remix of his SA1 theme

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But I only heard like a random snippet somewhere

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Where are they plug

wide portal
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oh wait I might be off the mark a bit, I haven’t been keeping up intensely

silent haven
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nah it’s just the tracks in the demo

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  • a couple lobby ones
sick bobcat
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its official, Storm and Amy can't tell all the hedgehogs apart

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😂

coarse ferry
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Nah Storm is even worse! 💀

wide portal
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they found the fucking super sonic model

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in other news i need to amend this, ||Blaze mentions bringing peace to her kingdom and taking a break when speaking to Sage, an explicit reference to the annual story ||

coarse ferry
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||That's very cool ngl||

raw ether
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So apparently LEGO is being affected by the whole shipping crisis brought on by the dickwads so it could potentially lead to the upcoming Sonic-themed GWP (||the Genesis controller||) being cancelled.

There are already reports posted elsewhere of sets having parts missing. Thousands of individual pieces have already been removed from the Pick-A-Part service.

If it gets worse, it could potentially lead to the rumored 2026 sets being cancelled as well.

raw osprey
silent haven
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custom item settings thank god

raw osprey
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yknow what kart racer doesnt have all this

silent haven
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true

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crossworlds deserves higher than world and i will be mad if it doesn't get it

wise chasm
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oops all King Boom Boo

wide portal
wise chasm
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Actually wait

Oops all Monster trucks

raw osprey
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chao park only monster truck 24/7

prime hearth
raw osprey
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SSS + dynamic camera is insane

still epoch
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Oh god

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Turning is gonna be hell

glossy sphinx
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make sure to brake

dusty osprey
# silent haven crossworlds deserves higher than world and i will be mad if it doesn't get it

This is gonna be the interesting part of the discussion because alot of people are making favorable conparisons between this and kirby to mk. And thats good, but will normal people give af or will they just be like "i like mario kart, its mario" and both games fail to find footing. Hopefully sonic like the first two car racers finds a place given its wider availability.

glossy sphinx
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yep it's time

grand cobalt
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this and those miku tracks are gonna hit like crack

untold kayak
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Fadel did say that the turning of extreme gears Isn't as tight

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But they compensate by having much better use of boost

torn trench
glossy sphinx
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marketing geniuses ❤️

torn trench
grand cobalt
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they set up extreme gear gameplay so bad when they didn’t even need to

still epoch
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This marketing team better go to class before doing anything with frontiers 2

grand cobalt
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like fineeee, use the normal speed and normal camera in trailers or when using cars for the casuals whatever

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But when you do a DIRECT riders comparison

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and it looks slow and static as hell

raw osprey
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"why is is so slow" "why is this stiff" "no sauce"

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arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh i believe day 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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and it pay offed

grand cobalt
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i believe in the,,, sonikku teamu,,

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they need better people to play their games ChieSip

coarse ferry
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I always believe

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SEGA's marketing was just ass in Crossworld

dawn pumice
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We all know SEGA’s marketing is ass

grand cobalt
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see it’s complicated

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the promotion of the game and stuff

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Was actually great

raw osprey
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tbf shadow gens marketing was good

grand cobalt
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Probably the best for a sonic game so far tbh

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but they keep having like

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people playing their games in the most boring way

dawn pumice
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Fr

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They should let me play it

grand cobalt
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at least CrossWorlds still looked like a fun enough game despite that

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that frontiers first look though

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it broke my heart when i heard it was THEM who sent it to ign 💔

raw osprey
dawn pumice
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That shit was prob a wake up call for them

grand cobalt
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if it was they need to wake up more

dawn pumice
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They doing better than before

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In Japan tho holy crap

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They’re REALLY pushing there

grand cobalt
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Will it work this time

raw osprey
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maybe 20

dawn pumice
raw osprey
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which is not bad for sonic but lackluster compare to world and air riders

grand cobalt
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if the game flops still i’m just convinced it’s a universe thing

dawn pumice
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^^^

grand cobalt
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like they cannot physically allow him to have a banger

coarse ferry
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That and it's just SEGA curse

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They always struggle having their games selling massively

raw osprey
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maaaaaaaaaaaaaan its so complicated

coarse ferry
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It's always the worst thing over SEGA and it's not even their fault

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They can make high quality games and yet their sales says otherwise

grand cobalt
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but like, frontiers got some nice numbers

but that was also an open world rpg which probably had more appeal than the traditional sonic game

coarse ferry
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Shit is whack for this company

raw osprey
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they do push game hard but i dunno hit another 46k copies like frontiers seems hard to me

coarse ferry
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It legit sucks

raw osprey
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and also this is a racing game

coarse ferry
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Like you think their games could say way more than expected and yet

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It didn't

prime hearth
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I still do not think this will be the game to crack japan realistically but worldwide it'll do pretty damn decent numbers

raw osprey
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and japanese gamers did not care about racing series ever

grand cobalt
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Oh no don’t get me wrong

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The game WILL do numbers everywhere else

dawn pumice
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I think so too

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Prob best in the sonic racing series period imo

prime hearth
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by this point its like, if they were gonna crack japan it would've happened decades ago, they're fighting an uphill battle

raw osprey
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but also daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn this fucking 5 miku songs in generally better marketing than vandalize

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and she the game herself

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and minecraft is also crazy popular in japan

dawn pumice
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I also thinking having a 12 episode shonen-like anime with the animation similar to today’s anime will boost the series so hard in Japan specifically

coarse ferry
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To me it just sucks to see SEGA always get treated like this

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At least when it comes to sales

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It's why I am hoping crossworld finally breaks that trend

raw osprey
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this game either gonna sell the same as frontiers and even higher or like another sonic games sold like 5k copies like no in between

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idk

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because i thought shadow gens is gonna sell like 15-20k copies since they market it and in general game has vibes that japan likes

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but then it made like 10k copies

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so i dunno

prime hearth
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I mean, the big thing that doesn't help too is that the movies helped boost those numbers and over in Japan they just

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completely fucked the releases of em lmao

raw osprey
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first 2 movies yea (it was more of covid) but 3rd one release there in the same time as everyone else and still did not do much

prime hearth
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well yeah, would you go and see just the first installment in a movie series in cinemas having not seen the last two lol

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like by that point of course it was diminishing returns there, the damage was done

dusty osprey
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Sega should keep trying, but their focus should remain....everywhere else

prime hearth
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tbh I don't mind them trying to focus on japan cos its resulting in things I like lol

dusty osprey
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Oh 'm with you

prime hearth
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ain't gonna crack a million over there but please do keep making miku collabs in the vague chance it could happen

coarse ferry
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Its' always been a issue with SEGA

coarse ferry
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Just sales alone

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Even with ATLUS where despite making huge hits, the sales says otherwise

wise chasm
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Again, I don't see SEGA ever doing Nintendo numbers over in Japan (or globally frankly), so they should just be focusing on making good games

dusty osprey
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I think that's the smartest way to go about it

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there's a cultural entrenchment that would take years if not decades to try an impliment to try an dget close to those numbers over there

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if they could even get there at all

coarse ferry
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Exactly

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But honestly I feel like we should keep our expectations low from SEGA when it comes to sales alone

dusty osprey
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I do thnk there are moves they could make that might be more appealing. And there are certainly sonic games that have seen surges. But I thnk at being content that the bulk of your fanbase exists elsewhere and focusing to make the best thing you can make is top priority

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whch to its credit, crossworlds seems like just that

coarse ferry
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Yeah and honestly it works in their favor

prime hearth
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as much as the switch 1 version's def gonna be the most compromised it'll def help sales numbers, both in japan and in general

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biiiiiiiig ol install base to tap into, especially with folks who haven't got the switch 2 and MKW yet

torn trench
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Even with the people who already have the switch 2, they'll be more incentivized to get that version cuz of the better performance

wise chasm
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WAIT I JUST READ THE DESCRIPTION

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|| WHAT DO YOU MEAN TIME TRIALS ARE PRETTY MUCH MANDATORY ||

coarse ferry
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||AYOOOOOOOO!?||

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||THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PURPOSE WTF!?||

still epoch
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||oh. Thats a REALLY good incentive||

grand cobalt
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||actual incentives to do shit that’s fire ||

raw osprey
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||using time trials not only to learn track but also for purpsoe is cool||

grand cobalt
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||but this also means im gonna crash out when im 0.00000009 seconds away from get the S rank track ||

still epoch
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||considering that i already played the time trials and enjoyed them a lot, this is a really nice incentive to get a full jukebox||

raw osprey
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||you can use crossworlds even as 3rd lap ohhhh give me knockout tour in thsi game||

grand cobalt
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They’re doing a good job with content

still epoch
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||you can yea, you can put crossworlds as basic courses, so they count for time trials||

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Single Player content even

grand cobalt
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I really want to see what that fucking friendship thing is 😭

still epoch
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Friendship sim

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How do people still have no idea what it is

grand cobalt
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wouldn’t it be funny if after all of the rival shit talking it’s just the characters being nice to each other Laugh

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so we know it isn’t the friends list, right?

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or nah

raw osprey
grand cobalt
safe hull
raw osprey
still epoch
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What the fuck this game keeps on giving

grand cobalt
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||the “all rival interactions” channel knowing they don’t have to rely on rng||

coarse ferry
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||BROOOOOOO THIS GAME KEEPS ON WINNING||

wheat kindle
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||So many options, I just need skins now, but I like that you need to play various modes, they aren't pointless||

humble drum
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Sylvania castle track when

rugged edge
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Question , can u play with ur friends in the beta test and in what modes (we’re gonna be on a call and on the same console (switch)

dawn pumice
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Seems like you can with online play

rugged edge
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But what if we don’t got thr online subscription

grand cobalt
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thennn u can’t

pulsar horizon
past matrix
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What's the likelihood that the rep only ends there as a nod.

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Not saying it is the case, cause I'm waiting with clenched cheeks as much as everyone else.

hasty plume
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I mean to be honest if whisper or anyone from idw was in the files they would've found them by now

cunning echo
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but who knows, we'll see

forest fractal
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A step up from Boom cosmetics ig

wide portal
silent haven
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we only know this because of fadel's stream yeah

wise chasm
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still vibing to holoska final lap

forest fractal
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Yes dude

wise chasm
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Such a good reinterpretation of a calm track into something high-energy

toxic vapor
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I need my anti IDW agenda to stay on!

still epoch
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Wow such good vibes you exude

toxic vapor
forest fractal
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Fuck IDW bro

toxic vapor
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Now yall know how it feels sorry

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It’s just that I’m not the majority!

autumn yacht
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loooooooooooooool

toxic vapor
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🤔

wise chasm
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I hope Santiago gets in

cunning echo
dawn pumice
silent haven
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crazy how that works

cunning echo
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modern trip 🙏

past matrix
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This is why classic sonic wasn't showcased during sonic x shadow gens promotional cycle.

silent haven
rugged otter
silent haven
rugged otter
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it's just I need my Whisper and Tangle too

toxic vapor
past matrix
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Cyan bastard.

hasty plume
cunning echo
toxic vapor
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Hmmm

toxic vapor
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Quality > quantity ngl

cunning echo
cunning echo
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lmfao

past matrix
toxic vapor
cunning echo
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aside from that

cunning echo
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I dont feel like classic bro will be in the racing game, they would've announced him but there is still the free dlc characters so we have to wait and see

past matrix
hasty plume
rugged otter
rugged otter
toxic vapor
hasty plume
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it doesn't
thats personal bias

toxic vapor
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If you go to literally any amusement park and get shoe bags, it’s all Classic Sonic

past matrix
rugged otter
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dude sanrio sonic ❤️

past matrix
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He can't ride off of cute factor publicity anymore.

rugged otter
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cute marketable sonic

cunning echo
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Also superstars sold pretty much the common amount a sonic game sells the thing is that Sega wanted a more short term revenue than to get that amount in the long run + the superstillion amount of discounts the game got

toxic vapor
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In all the calender mervh arts, they literally have classic, sonic 1 sprite sonic, and modern sonic in the marketing

past matrix
toxic vapor
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Literally Classic Sonic is still used for toys and major marketing now lmao

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You are living in a delusional fantasy

past matrix
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Don't wanna hear it

untold kayak
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I hate X but I would've liked to see Cosmo here ngl

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she's cute

past matrix
untold kayak
past matrix
untold kayak
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her father sucks though

bro thinks he Darth Vader

hasty plume
# toxic vapor You are living in a delusional fantasy

that wasn't the argument
the argument you gave was that he was the only being used
if you were right they wouldnt keep using modern
I ain't even gonna continue this cause nothing you say can change that fact

also using ad hominems is a classical sign someone is losing an argument 🙂

silent haven
toxic vapor
# past matrix Don't wanna hear it

Also don’t you literally make Sonic character redesigns on Twitter frequently that appeal to mainly people who want more Classic Sonic elements injected into Modern Sonic’s design

torn trench
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Oh brother

toxic vapor
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#fraud

past matrix
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Freeze I'm fucking with you

cunning echo
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oh my

past matrix
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PAUSE

dusty osprey
toxic vapor
silent haven
toxic vapor
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😭 ✌️

cunning echo
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3d blast

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jam

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R

silent haven
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game as divisive as heroes and the one nobody has anything good to say about except it started the series

cunning echo
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School house

toxic vapor
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Side series

cunning echo
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nah those are mainline classic sonic

rugged otter
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tails and the music maker

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sonic eraser

toxic vapor
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Modern Sonic’s most quality games are Gens and Colours -> both games that bite from the Classic Sonic games design philosophy

past matrix
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I give CD and 1 their senior citizen props for being the beginners/setting foundation most of the time out of respect.

But then I turn around and I can't help but talk about the old person smell musk radiating.

toxic vapor
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Colors feels like Sonic 1 in its game design
Gens also feels the same, has Classic Sonic and a lot of 2D

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Hmmmm

wise chasm
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i'll bite you from the classic sonic games design standpoint

toxic vapor
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🤔

past matrix
wise chasm
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also I fucking hate* Colors, waow

cunning echo
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Well ofc gens has classic sonic, is a celebration title tho

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😭

hasty plume
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also retroactively changing your argument to be about game design instead of character design is a similar sign of losing an argument

bye yall!

wise chasm
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*I don't actually hate it, but I think of it lesser than most other games in the series

silent haven
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i wonder what other game has modern and classic sonic in it

torn trench
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Do people even go back to gens for classic

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Genuine question

silent haven
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no

past matrix
still epoch
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No

past matrix
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I'm playing it RIGHT now, and I can tell you no

toxic vapor
still epoch
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Its not bad but modern sonic is right there

wise chasm
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also also

why the fuck is this in rumors again?

toxic vapor
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Are you stupid?

silent haven
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it’s funny that hold x to win is the boost game meme when that’s all you do for classic gens

wide portal
autumn yacht
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huh i thought this would continue in anti idw direction

rugged otter
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rename this to sonic rumour & classic

hasty plume
cunning echo
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fqwoipk

past matrix
untold kayak
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Classic Crisis City

silent haven
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Kill this guy

untold kayak
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Classic City ecape

hasty plume
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anyway

past matrix
hasty plume
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im of the opinion idw will prob never make it into anything outside of like mobile games tbh

untold kayak
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Classic Rooftop run

past matrix
cunning echo
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classic is fine, cd is literally its best game but we all here for modern sonic anyways

past matrix
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I'll figure it out.

toxic vapor
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Classic Sonic’s downfall in Gens is having mid physics which is due to Modern Sonic Team’s decision making

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Ngl

torn trench
toxic vapor
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Frontiers 2 save me please

torn trench
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Bark, Bean, Fank the Fucker, Trip especially omg

wise chasm
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frontiers 2, annihilate this man

wide portal
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I love Fank the Fucker

coarse ferry
hasty plume
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I mean tbh im sure we will get classic as like a free update char or some shit around june

coarse ferry
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Classic is carried too hard by the spin dash in gens

rugged otter
toxic vapor
torn trench
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I kinda

wise chasm
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doctor when he sees Freeze (Sonic Frontiers 2 killed him)

wide portal
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Oh yeah June feels like a good bet

hasty plume
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I mean its the 35th

wide portal
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Iizuka said the plan is to release a free character every month

torn trench
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Don't want a classic character to fill a free dlc slotdoggie

hasty plume
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id be more shocked if it didnt happen tbh

wide portal
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so I’d say Classic Sonic is locked for June

toxic vapor
wide portal
cunning echo
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I personally think the free dlc slots are gonna be non sonic chars

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mostly sega rep ofc

wide portal
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if people like it and it gets proper support, we’re gonna get a lot more free/paid dlc in the future

wise chasm
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I can see June being the exception

hasty plume
toxic vapor
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Sonic Team gives the character a rolling move that doesn’t work as the representation for Classic Sonic and people dare to argue against a little level of incompetency 😭 😭

wise chasm
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and them putting Santiago in the game

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but that's about it

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maybe movie stuff if the support continues to 2027

toxic vapor
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Santiago in the big 25 😭 ✌️

hasty plume
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26*

wide portal
torn trench
wide portal
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lowkey impersonated me for a while that shit was fucked up

wise chasm
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you got off too easy honestly

cunning echo
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beat, crazy guy, shinobi

wide portal
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the police never caught him, he could go after any of you guys

wise chasm
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iizuka did say some characters from ASR will return in an interview

hasty plume
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I still hear ppl ask what that was

toxic vapor
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Characters we need in Crossworlds ->
Classic Sonic
Fang
Trip
Motobug
Egg Robo
Metal Knuckles

wise chasm
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so could be aiai, samba de amigo, beat, crazy taxi

torn trench
hasty plume
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it was the revivals dog
they had an article that said that

wise chasm
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That ain't happening bro

cunning echo
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ok but it'd be funny

wide portal
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why the fuck call it a super game if it’s multiple games

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call it super games not super game

toxic vapor
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Ngl why can’t they add more Sonic characters in Crossworlds

cunning echo
hasty plume
torn trench
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5 games in 1

hasty plume
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but its all the revivals

torn trench
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A super game

wide portal
cunning echo
wide portal
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there are millions of people who have never even heard of a vector the crocodile

cunning echo
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who playing as motobug

wise chasm
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to be fair, I play as Spike in MK World

silent haven
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nobody want that bum when eggpawn is here

wise chasm
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someone would play as motobug

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I'll probably play Egg Pawn too

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stupid ass pick, but I don't care lmao

wide portal
cunning echo
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Fang has a mini ship so he can easily get into the game

wide portal
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that said, Prime cast members are available in the Digital Deluxe

torn trench
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I'd want the more obvious classic characters in

wide portal
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so if they’re in, I doubt they’d skip classic

wise chasm
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give me witchcart honestly

silent haven
coarse ferry
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I rather have more SEGA chars instead

wide portal
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Prime is popular but I highly doubt they’d be the only characters from other corners of the franchise making their way in

silent haven
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she already has the fucking vehicle

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put her in!!!!!!

hasty plume
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question
I just had a thought
wasn't one of the long known mandates that like classic chars and modern chars were to be essentially kept seperate for the most part

Given that amy flat out mentions trip in dialogue is it safe to say thats gone?

wide portal
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and of course there was also the Werehog DLC

torn trench
wide portal
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they just can’t be shown or used in any storylines

hasty plume
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ah dang

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I miss modern mighty
had a sick design in archie

wise chasm
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if we do go for SEGA stuff, Arle somehow not being in the game would be a travesty

rugged otter
wise chasm
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and that's coming from someone who doesn't care about Puyo Puyo

cunning echo
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that's so weird

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and random

wise chasm
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Not a pick for me, but a pick for the society

cunning echo
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mighty in frontiers 2 maybe?

wide portal
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modern mighty hasn’t been unveiled yet so I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t appear in the game itself

silent haven
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i’m still a little sad kiryu isn’t in

cunning echo
rugged otter
torn trench
wide portal
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I’d be very surprised if Sega just lets them use him but then again the freedom fighters showed up in the text files so fucking anything is possible

torn trench
rugged otter
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but also Arle would fit in like a glove

cunning echo
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literally freedom fighters characters bio is the one from sonic wiki

wise chasm
wide portal
silent haven
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all the text files are just straight rips from the wiki

cunning echo
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exactly

wise chasm
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"gorilla bootystank"

wide portal
autumn yacht
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i thought nibroc said otherwise

wide portal
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the blitz Twitter account also acknowledged the Archie situation directly

wise chasm
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????

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The fuck?

cunning echo
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when

wide portal
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I am just realizing that there’s a chance you guys have no idea that account exists

wise chasm
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First time I've heard of it

cunning echo
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There is a Sonic Blitz account?

wise chasm
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I know the account exists, I just never checked it

wide portal
cunning echo
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ah that

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also tbf, lanolin also had a model

wise chasm
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they replied to alex

autumn yacht
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who's alex

wide portal
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im sure the kids will like it but jesus christ

wide portal
silent haven
grand cobalt
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they should get clubhouse mickey instead he's hitting that shit

coarse ferry
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But like honestly while I don't mind seeing classic chars, but having more than just classic sonic in crossworld free DLC? No thank you

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Even with Trip (As much I adore he) I still say no

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Sorry, but this is the closest I can have ASR3; so I have my reason to care more over SEGA chars appearing instad

rugged otter
#

do hope the game is succesful enough to justify more free dlc

#

whether it brings in more SEGA chars or Sonic ones

#

the more the merrier and all that

cunning echo
rugged otter
#

one's a skin and the other's the character

toxic vapor
wise chasm
#

ngl I'd also probably play as a motobug if I was feeling goofy

toxic vapor
#

Origins Motobug or I riot

wise chasm
rugged otter
#

playable coconuts

#

you know..........

toxic vapor
wind bay
grand cobalt
wise chasm
#

OPPA

wise chasm
#

cough

untold kayak
#

OPPA

cunning echo
wise chasm
#

so is cow

rocky leaf
wise chasm
#

apparently, yeah

#

iirc Rumble's account follows it, so

#

yeah, there it is

prime hearth
#

looking thru rumble’s followers and uhhhhh

wide portal
prime hearth
#

I don’t think this accounts for much lmao

#

anyways which game of the two is gonna get canned first place yer bets

wise chasm
#

No, it makes sense, they're following influencers, Rumble JP and Korea, and Blitz

prime hearth
#

both are heading full throttle towards the shitter but which turd’s heavier to sink first

wide portal
#

i genuinely think blitz will last longer

rugged otter
#

rumble

#

it's gonna get hyped up to its grave

wise chasm
#

I mean, it's hard to say anything about Blitz, it's in as proper of a soft-launch as it could be

silent haven
#

rumble is practically DOA by this point

wide portal
#

It’s not stringing people along with inaccessible global events and the hype cycle died so hard basically every comment whenever the acc posts is about when it comes out

#

I think rumble will last the same period of time as sonic runners

silent haven
#

was gonna say

wise chasm
#

It's not the same as what Rumble's doing

wide portal
#

blitz, meanwhile, I think its obscurity is in its favour

silent haven
#

they're both rovio right

wide portal
#

it’s also not online dependant like rumble is? but I might be wrong

wide portal
#

blitz is just Rovio straight up

wide portal
#

but a late 2027/2028 delist from the App Store is inevitable

#

and of course, Sonic Forces: Speed Battle will outlive them both

#

because fuck you

prime hearth
#

I think blitz is gonna be the first to go purely cos of how rovio's like lol

#

delisting shit and bunging out experiments left right and centre

wide portal
#

I fell out of Angry Birds right before they started their worst practices so I’d probably be a lot madder if I was still a serious fan

#

but yeah that shit suuuuucks

prime hearth
#

rumble I don't think will last much longer but they will at least try to do a worldwide launch on the sheer basis of sunk cost fallacy/partnerships for collabs already locked down

#

from that point tho I give it like, six months tops lol

wide portal
#

oh god is rumble a dumping ground for the collabs they couldn’t get for crossworlds

prime hearth
#

"look you can't be in our full-price kart racer but you can be in our afterthought fall guys clone, how about it lads"

prime hearth
humble drum
coarse ferry
#

BROOOOOOOOOOO

#

I AM LOSING IT MAN!

#

💀

#

WHY IS SHADOW FUCKING FLABBERGASTED!?

prime hearth
#

can it be charmy

still epoch
#

Please

#

PLEASE

prime hearth
#

do we have shadow & charmy interactions yet

still epoch
#

PLEASE BE CHARMY

coarse ferry
#

NAH BEST LINE FOR SHADOW FREE LMAO

#

This shit is just perfect!

still epoch
#

Calm down, if this aint for charmy they fucked up

#

Also this line aint that well delivered the intention is funny though

coarse ferry
#

nah it's just the way it delivered that made me laughed so hard regardless of whom

prime hearth
#

who else would he be fucked off with in the roster

coarse ferry
#

It's either Charmy or Egg Pawn

silent haven
#

two names that start with z

still epoch
#

I hope its not big

untold kayak
#

its to Big according to the commentaries

coarse ferry
#

Doubt it's Zavok

prime hearth
#

egg pawn he'll prolly be like "pathetic, I've wiped out dozens of you" or something

coarse ferry
#

No way it's Big

prime hearth
#

BIG?!

silent haven
#

wow

prime hearth
#

after shadow gens???

silent haven
#

saved his ass in white space then decided he hated him 😭

coarse ferry
#

Shadow underestimating Big's powers 💀

cunning echo
#

I think is just some kind of reference since big is always in random places

untold kayak
#

yeah

#

Ian likes the Big randomly popping in places gag

cunning echo
#

we never expected him in shadow gens either

still epoch
#

If this is big ill be disappointed

#

I need it to be charmy

untold kayak
still epoch
#

I want charmy to be an upsetting presence for shadow

untold kayak
#

"Maria asked me to protect all life in the planet. Unfortunately, that also includes you"

still epoch
#

Thats not real is it

pulsar horizon
cunning echo
#

Im gonna be honest

still epoch
#

Wow amys lines are all good at the start

cunning echo
#

I dont see the point in mentioning classic characters or idw characters if we are never going to see them in modern games

prime hearth
#

Trip responding by beating the shit out of Dodonpa for making her island into a racetrack

#

I mean why not

silent haven
#

it leaves the door open for it to at least happen i guess

silent haven
#

i'll take it over the outright separation they were doing before

still epoch
#

These are all good

#

Whats with the different directions

untold kayak
#

No idea

#

it's a really weird thing

#

Though I guess that's what made Amy in crossworlds fail: The oddly inconsistent direction

#

also they found the JP Lines

#

according to a person that checked them in gamescage's discord

#

Sage got neutered

#

lol

coarse ferry
#

"Go home SIlver"

dusty osprey
coarse ferry
#

That shit will be funny af if so

silent haven
#

he claps back?????????

coarse ferry
prime hearth
#

oh my god lmao????

untold kayak
dusty osprey
#

Thats funny

#

Because shadow sounds genuinely confused in that clip

dawn pumice
coarse ferry
#

Big continues to be peak as always

#

🗿

wide portal
# untold kayak

the most boring people on the planet are going to insist that this is better

untold kayak
untold kayak
#

XASKXBASCXGSTXFHGV

coarse ferry
#

AYO

torn trench
#

Nobody fucks with Charmy it's so funny😭

cunning echo
#

as they should

plush moth
#

nobody fucks with the bee boy😭

wide portal
untold kayak
wide portal
# untold kayak ||What is it?||

||people pointed out that the only time Blaze would’ve faced off with Metal directly would’ve been Battle for Angel Island||

dusty osprey
#

Jesus fuck man hes 6

plush moth
#

exactly

torn trench
#

Tbf I'd be mad as fuck too if I had to deal with him😭

dusty osprey
#

Maybe shadow social batter on empty

still epoch
#

Top secret disks too much

wide portal
dawn pumice
#

||bro it’s time||

plush moth
#

||time for what||

dawn pumice
#

||5th IDW reference|| @plush moth

plush moth
#

||oh shit, that does make 5||

forest fractal
#

I pretend I don’t see it

wide portal
#

||god I probably should’ve paid way more attention to the Zeti interactions when I did my read through 💀 ||

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||it’s pretty funny that this technically makes them patient zero for IDW allusions though||

prime hearth
#

||IDW’s canon status being solidified solely to avoid 90% of Zavok’s rival interactions being characters going “who the fuck are you” is quite possibly the funniest result lmao||

dusty osprey
#

The percentage is still pretty high though

coarse ferry
#

||Zavok really got slandered so hard 💀 ||

prime hearth
wide portal
#

yeah im checking again, this time it’ll be Zeti specifically

#

seven emeralds! seven rings in hand! ||tails: “have you forgotten all the times I helped beat you?” (times implies multiple, so this is most likely referring to MV + Zeti Hunt)
||

still epoch
#

Ok at this point

#

Might as well make Tangle and Whisper here and voiced

#

Like come on

wide portal
#

side note

#

I noticed this a while ago but since we are talking about the Zeti, I might as well bring it up here

#

||big’s talking about TSR here obviously, and how Zavok was one of the racers||

still epoch
#

Thats insane

wide portal
#

||But as far as I can tell, Zavok is one of the few people who does not reference the events of TSR. arguably it could be put into question with his interaction with Silver, but that changes a lot when Zavok indicates that he straight up doesn’t remember who Big is||

pulsar horizon
still epoch
#

||crystal mones and the ice one||

wide portal
#

with all this observation I think I’ve figured it out, moving forward Ian’s scripts will probably occasionally acknowledge the events of the comics in casual dialogue the same way his scripts acknowledge previous games

dusty osprey
coarse ferry
#

They really don't gaf about Zavok, I'm dying

#

💀

#

At least they treat Metal Sonic as a dangerous creature

#

Zavok? They all went like, "Who?"

#

Zavok has the biggest L currently holy fuck

plush moth
#

and I need to see MORE

dense snow
#

You’ll get more when you go get me a cup of coffee from across the street

plush moth
#

Sure

untold kayak
#

In TSR, he was mostly hiding in the shadows to spy on the other racers and to find Dodon Pa's Secret project

#

He only started to race because he got noticed, which happens somewhat close to the climax when Eggman kidnaps Dodon Pa

#

By Silver I believe

#

(Big was the first one to notice someone was hiding but it was not given much thought by the others. They just got more wary about this)

#

Oh little mistake, he was spotted by the Chao

#

But yeah, out of the 39 minutes narrative, Zavok enters in the race at the 23 minutes 30 second mark

#

(and he also only interacts with Eggman I think so that helps lol)

dusty osprey
#

If it does not conflict with stuff they wanna do. And you should take it on arc by arc basis

But its canon

coarse ferry
#

All I care is putting IDW chars and classic chars in frontiers 2

#

🗿

#

And bringing Neo metal sonic back

leaden acorn
#

I want Neo back. I'd want any character back just for the banter and references.

wide portal
#

did a quick rough machine translation of the JP lines I was most curious about

#

it looks like overall the translation itself is less frontiers-style different and moreso sa2-style different. The dialogue I’ve seen so far either preserves the general spirit of the existing interaction or is just the existing one word for word

autumn yacht
#

ian flynn

wide portal
#

it’s still not a great sign in the long term but im less worried about the future and more worried about the response

#

side note, this might be a translation bug, but apparently Sage brings up Gerald directly to Shadow instead of saying “Robotnik Clan”

#

On the IDW front due to the way dialogue was shifted some things were removed, but Blaze still mentions her country being at peace and Espio still refers to his fight with Zazz

autumn yacht
#

interesting

modest parcel
#

Oh thank god

modest parcel
#

Better for everyone to be on the same page regarding these characters than the opposite

wide portal
#

it seems like the major discrepancy is just Sage, but I’ll check her lines more carefully to be sure

#

Amy has some better dialogue when she’s the rival but some of her best lines when she’s playable have been a little dampened, but that might just be the language barrier

autumn yacht
#

the follow me line took me out not gonna lie

#

gosh i love this brand

wide portal
#

she doesn’t reference follow me anymore but she does mention fortune so that’s 5 think pieces confirmed

autumn yacht
#

NOOOOOO

modest parcel
#

I think the aggressive side of Amy is being played up, because honestly Amy at her best in the Jp d-LMAOOOOOO

#

That

#

That's amazing

autumn yacht
wide portal
#

Espio’s line about having a Metal version of himself was scrapped (boooo)

autumn yacht
wide portal
#

hhhhhhhnnngggg

#

need a better translation for this because it’s too early to tell but it does feel like Sage is neutered a bit

#

Sonic and Eggman interactions seem to have taken a big hit

autumn yacht
wide portal
#

Weirdly enough, she complements Tails in one of her rival lines?

untold kayak
autumn yacht
torn trench
grand cobalt
#

the fact this in the same game and likely written by the same person that spawned fandom discussion of the cool ass sage and silver future possibility

#

idk that kind of tickles me a certain way

autumn yacht
#

NOOOO

#

IT NEED TO BE REAL

untold kayak
#

Ian is funny

modest parcel
#

Oh my god it’s going to keep going like this isnt it hermit_koco_pain

#

20 years of hot dog taco hamburger

#

GAME DESIGN SONIC FANS WHERE ARE YOUUUUUU

#

I NEED YOU

still epoch
#

What

modest parcel
#

Preferably the ones that think past just rolling = good tho

autumn yacht
#

really only the natural conclusion for sonic

autumn yacht
#

last story is ian flynn

still epoch
still epoch
#

But what does this meannn

past matrix
#

Talking about the same old shit

still epoch
#

Ohhh

safe hull
#

It means that it's the same shit over and over

still epoch
#

Ohhh so

#

Dex crash out is about the writing

#

And then hes like

modest parcel
#

No it’s about mortality

still epoch
#

Please lets talk about game design instead

#

LOL

modest parcel
#

But yes every day on the radio it’s the same five songs

past matrix
#

Honestly; I just don't want Ian Flynn to shoulder everything for the games solely on the English side in terms of a writer.

It'd be nice to utilize more of the IDW writers, or have some entries be written by Japanese writers in a revolving door fashion imo.

still epoch
#

We need more people for sure

past matrix
#

Even as someone that doesn't have much trepidation about Ian Flynn's writing quirks; I'd rather not deal with it every entry or project.

#

Utilize your character cast and Utilize your creative crew.

autumn yacht
#

ian flynn

grand cobalt
#

the next person who says ian flynn in this channel are getting their lips sniped off with scissors

leaden acorn
#

Know what would be a good way to get more writers? Allow stories centering on other side characters in the comics again. Manga included.

wide portal
#

nnylf nai

autumn yacht
#

as someone who sees the issue i don't see the issue

exotic bone
#

eatin' flan

plush moth
#

whensrell you shouldn’t have done that

dawn pumice
#

Wait I realized isn’t this another idw reference? 😭

#

Sorry it came up on my TikTok 😭

untold kayak
#

Tails fixed Omega for the first time in Forces (albeit it was weird) but in IDW he fixed him twice

#

the first time was after Omega's body was used by Eggman in the post metal virus aftermath, and then he fixed Omega again when he sparred against Gemerl

wheat kindle
#

Sounds like you can buy them in-game

#

with the tickets I assume

#

after having unlocked them

smoky summit
#

How skinny are these skins gonna be

wheat kindle
#

Sage is the only indication of what to expect

smoky summit
#

Or is this gonna be a situation where they just recycle all the Speed Sim/mobile skins again

#

😭

smoky summit
smoky summit
#

Most characters don't have alt designs

wise chasm
smoky summit
#

I guess riders outfits would be an obvious one

wheat kindle
#

I think those skins have high potential to be here

smoky summit
#

also part of the mobile skins menagerie lol

wheat kindle
#

and here you can have them without having to farm

#

more like Dream Team

smoky summit
#

Unfortunately probably means dlc characters will get shafted again

#

Ironically Miku Ichiban and Joker all have easy skins they can add

wheat kindle
#

it's an extra feature I personally really want in the game, so I hope they are in

wise chasm
smoky summit
#

Normal Miku outfit, Hawaii Ichiban and school Joker

wheat kindle
#

I would not be surprised if they are available later on though

#

the mobile skins

#

every Sonic party game has those, why not here

smoky summit
#

Also judging by how easily modders have replaced characters

#

And how things like Sonic's quill physics still somehow function correctly with different Sonic models

#

Feels like they accounted for more robust skins, but who knows. Could be just what Bobnik said

#

It's just strange they haven't advertised it at all yet

pulsar horizon
#

I mean I kinda have hope that we’ll get skins like MoStH costumes or IDW costumes. But my expectations aren’t the highest

smoky summit
#

IDW costumes = mobile

#

MoStH is too niche probably

#

And none canon for some semantic reason so they will torch it to death

wise chasm
smoky summit
#

Ofc

#

Alright fine

wide portal
#

I’d say mobile costumes are probably fair game but it’s unknown what the extent of the skins are

#

there’s a 90% chance that the skins themselves are just recolours and not like actual costumes or anything

#

the Sage recolour is, uh, that basically

prime hearth
#

I'd be okay with skins depending on how they're implemented re:unlocks

#

someone elsewhere mentioned how freemium-currency-like the dodonpa tickets could be if implemented wrong and that is a worrying possibility lol

dusty osprey
#

They have said openly and plainly they want this game to last a long time, and they have a studio producing assets for ther characters that can be used in this game they can resell you

sick bobcat
#

Sonic hasn't done recolor skins since Colors Ultimate
I think we'll be fine on the skin department

wide portal
dusty osprey
#

work would need to be done

#

but they assets exist

#

also they are likely just gonna make new costumes and shit too

wide portal
#

I mean that’s the thing, they also have general maintenance to do, alongside the dlc projects for free and paid characters, I imagine collabs take pretty high priority considering how hard they’re pushing them

wide portal
#

how much manpower are they gonna spare to retopo and reskin several mobile costumes when they could do one or two and make the rest recolours

dusty osprey
#

As much as they need

#

Microtranaction make dollar line go up big dog

#

they'll figure it out.

sick bobcat
#

if we don't get Batman Shadow and Batmobile skins next year, I'll be sad

dusty osprey
#

give him the horn

#

and th ebats come out

#

you get like the btas stinger

wide portal
#

I think some kind of DC DLC is possible

grand cobalt
#

DDLC

wide portal
#

if they are committed to doing like, actual skins, then DC costumes are a given + vehicles, but they’ve also announced a few sticker collabs recently

wheat kindle
#

I would gladly pay for any DC collab, but the dc skins are my top priority

dawn pumice
wide portal
#

Those were apart of a different mode though right? Nothing suggested they were, like, actually skins

dusty osprey
#

i mean might as well

#

they have the asset why not let you unlock them

#

especially makes sense to introduce people to the store, so then when they start putting in skins that cost money its not foreign feeling

silent haven
#

||this pretty heavily implies it since they are the rivals in race park ||

#

oh that's literally the og tweet

#

oh well

#

point made

wise chasm
grand cobalt
#

I ended up with over 3K by the end of the test

scarlet ether
#

oh hey, have some unused shit.
First off, ||Joker's "MusicJacket" icon for Jukebox||

#

next up, ||two unused Online menu thumbnails for Friend Match and Legend Lobbies||

#

||some unused rules images for the Festival mode due to the Joker Festival only using 3 rules out of the 9 available (Boost, Drift, Extreme Items????, Players hit, collision with enemy players and spindrift)||

wise chasm
#

|| Legend Lobbies are gonna be so toxic, can't wait ||

dense snow
#

||It’d be a lot more worse if there was proximity chat||

grand cobalt
scarlet ether
#

||that is my assumption yea||

coarse ferry
#

||Most likely yeah, but the fact they even do legend lobbies is insane||

#

||They really are pushing hard over this method and ngl? This may change a lot over Crossworld's future||

silent haven
#

have these been mentioned yet

#

i don’t remember seeing anyone talk about their being ||secret/crossworld grand prix||

wise chasm
#

Huh

modest parcel
#

I believe it was determined that was what the three GPs at the bottom of the list were?

wise chasm
#

Nope

#

The bottom three are the "Secret" Cup and collab cups

still epoch
#

Huh?

modest parcel
wise chasm
#

No

modest parcel
wise chasm
#

No "technically"

modest parcel
#

Well alright

wise chasm
#

It's literally what I said

modest parcel
#

Not technically

#

Actually

wise chasm
modest parcel
#

So yeah the collab cups will probably be called CrossWorld cups 😭

wise chasm
#

I hope they don't, that'd be confusing

#

Cuz like, in the ONT they were called Collab Cups

modest parcel
#

But

#

The ✨ branding ✨

humble drum
#

the SECRET cup and HIDDEN world isn't a part of it 🥀

wheat kindle
#

It was Hidden in Lost World, it's kinda cool that the extra cup is made up of the 3 most recent games

past matrix
#

i am going to go BROKE in 2027 because of all the films coming out

wise chasm
#

why is this here

past matrix
#

i thought this was the lobby ClassicSonic

silent haven
#

digging through the text strings for w/e at this point

#

i guess this is what the friendship menu thing is ??

#

also dont think this has been mentioned, ||super sonic seems to be locked to grand prix lol||

grand cobalt
#

I mean that wasn’t hard to figure out, donpa at the start of the game says you’ll unlock a super racer if you finish the cups

#

with a not so subtle super sonic silhouette

dusty osprey
silent haven
#

i mean yeah obviously it's super sonic

#

i mean as in it sounds like you can't play him outside of grand prix

grand cobalt
#

oh !

dusty osprey
#

that's lame

#

thought it might be like he mobile game. Make him a skin

#

eventually make a skin for the other super forms

#

i would use em

#

seems like a good skin

still epoch
#

Is it really social links

dusty osprey
#

i don't thnk so i'm goofin

dawn pumice
#

can someone gift me tickets :)

silent haven
#

WAIT

#

????????????

dawn pumice
#

O

#

Lah’s House

#

I forgot to mention that a bit ago 😭

grand cobalt
#

probably the file name for the haunted pumpkin stage whatever it’s called

#

water palace was called atlantis I think

cunning echo
#

well

#

I guess that means he's overpowered

#

I do wonder what is it tho

#

but Im gonna take a guess and say is that he can run through grass with no problem and have unlimited boost like frenzy

wise chasm
#

I think I've seen someone mention that he || has 20 stat points to each stat? || Might be wrong tho

coarse ferry
#

Super sonic getting ready to be the banned char again

dawn pumice
#

I thought he’d max out every stat

wise chasm
#

You'll probably be able to do that with the +20 stats gadget on top of it

humble drum
still epoch
#

Does anyone have the list of the stages in crossworlds

#

Nevermind found it

#

Im gonna put my guesses

#

After Wonder Museum, is ||Crystal Mine||

#

Then its ||Pumpkin Mansion||

#

||Urban Canyon,
Coral Town,
Blizzard Valley,
Chao Park,
Dodonpas Factory,
Aqua Forest,
Eggman Expo,
Then Main theme||

silent haven
#

||i think i can fairly confidently say the one place it feels like crossworlds is probably gonna be undercooked in is the single player unless they have anything besides race park still somehow hidden by this point. it's literally just the online festival team mode but against CPUs with different rival teams for vehicle parts/tickets from what i can tell||

wise chasm
#

We kinda figured that already

silent haven
#

🐴

wise chasm
#

But yeah, I think I gave up hope when the first description that came out for Race Park was "local multiplayer"

#

So it's even surprising that you can do Race Park solo at all

#

Or that you get an incentive to do time trials in the form of || music for the jukebox ||

silent haven
#

wasn't really expecting a story mode but even the mission campaigns in sega all stars/transformed do a pretty good job at padding out the game's length compared to just time trials and gp so i'm kinda sad it looks like there's nothing really on par with them here

#

even tho i'm sure online will make up for it

raw osprey
#

btw it looks like crossworlds gonna have its own gp

leaden acorn
#

I guess the CrossWorld GPs will have each lap be a different course.

wise chasm
#

That's from time trial, no?

raw osprey
#

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#

no

silent haven
#

it is yes

toxic vapor
#

yk

raw osprey
toxic vapor
#

I'm gonna go through 4chan to look through Sonic leaks

#

There has to be something missed

silent haven
pulsar horizon
coarse ferry
#

||why sonic looks so squished?||

pulsar horizon
past matrix
#

But those look AI generated as fuck.

hasty plume
coarse ferry
smoky summit
#

||So Avatar only has 2 characters||