#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation
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Fax
True
It's cool
I am glad that Kirby works so well for 3D
3D = 2D^2
Man Kirby is the one series was I like, I don't know if I enjoy these games, but if it was 3D I would probably eat it up like crazy
And lo and behold, they did it
And it's awesome
Actually more like you have to do integrals, but you get the point
If Shinobi was 3D you'd eat it up like crazy too?
Oh yeah
Ima need to hook you up with a ps2
I saw that platinum games shinobi game and that looked sick
I would love to see if they attempt a 3D Shinobi game, but for now peak game first
You know, Lizardcube are geniuses
They saw people complain that games dont look like the concept art
So they made the concept art the game
Opened chrome and it's right where I left it LMAO
Is it Sonic Racing?
Dino Jungle's song sucked the wind out of me
Ok but where is it
looks like the entire ost since there’s songs for tracks that seemingly aren’t available in the demo?
I know it's a remix of his SA1 theme
But I only heard like a random snippet somewhere
Where are they plug
oh wait I might be off the mark a bit, I haven’t been keeping up intensely
Nah Storm is even worse! 💀
they found the fucking super sonic model
in other news i need to amend this, ||Blaze mentions bringing peace to her kingdom and taking a break when speaking to Sage, an explicit reference to the annual story ||
||That's very cool ngl||
So apparently LEGO is being affected by the whole shipping crisis brought on by the dickwads so it could potentially lead to the upcoming Sonic-themed GWP (||the Genesis controller||) being cancelled.
There are already reports posted elsewhere of sets having parts missing. Thousands of individual pieces have already been removed from the Pick-A-Part service.
If it gets worse, it could potentially lead to the rumored 2026 sets being cancelled as well.
custom item settings thank god
true
crossworlds deserves higher than world and i will be mad if it doesn't get it

oops all King Boom Boo
you’re gonna JINX IT
Actually wait
Oops all Monster trucks
chao park only monster truck 24/7
Nope lol, whoever first said this is fearmongering - sets/etc for the US are shipped from within the US by courier so those are all gravy, the only thing affected are individual pick a brick standard parts cos those are shipped through the post from Denmark (and thus get hit full whack with the De Minimis exemption’s withdrawal)
(hence why the bestseller parts on pick a brick are still up, those are also shipped from the US by courier - new elementary has a good breakdown of it https://www.newelementary.com/2025/08/pick-brick-standard-bricks-service.html?m=1)
||https://vxtwitter.com/BeatzYT3/status/1960981030959014288|| oh my goodness
SSS + dynamic camera is insane
make sure to brake
This is gonna be the interesting part of the discussion because alot of people are making favorable conparisons between this and kirby to mk. And thats good, but will normal people give af or will they just be like "i like mario kart, its mario" and both games fail to find footing. Hopefully sonic like the first two car racers finds a place given its wider availability.
@Superkirby982 I didnt modify it, its just dynamic camera and super sonic speed
yep it's time
this and those miku tracks are gonna hit like crack
Tbf
Fadel did say that the turning of extreme gears Isn't as tight
But they compensate by having much better use of boost
Holy shit I'm pretty sure this is faster than all the Riders games😭
marketing geniuses ❤️
Sit them down‼️
they set up extreme gear gameplay so bad when they didn’t even need to
This marketing team better go to class before doing anything with frontiers 2
like fineeee, use the normal speed and normal camera in trailers or when using cars for the casuals whatever
But when you do a DIRECT riders comparison
and it looks slow and static as hell
"why is is so slow" "why is this stiff" "no sauce"
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh i believe day 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and it pay offed
We all know SEGA’s marketing is ass
tbf shadow gens marketing was good
Probably the best for a sonic game so far tbh
but they keep having like
people playing their games in the most boring way
at least CrossWorlds still looked like a fun enough game despite that
that frontiers first look though
it broke my heart when i heard it was THEM who sent it to ign 💔
like i remember maybe first trailer was iffy since many people thought its gonna be forces level design again but it just another case when fan base starts jumping the gun without the wait
That shit was prob a wake up call for them
if it was they need to wake up more
They got so many influencers in Japan promoting the game AND Hatsune Miku
which is not bad for sonic but lackluster compare to world and air riders
if the game flops still i’m just convinced it’s a universe thing
^^^
like they cannot physically allow him to have a banger
That and it's just SEGA curse
They always struggle having their games selling massively
maaaaaaaaaaaaaan its so complicated
It's always the worst thing over SEGA and it's not even their fault
They can make high quality games and yet their sales says otherwise
but like, frontiers got some nice numbers
but that was also an open world rpg which probably had more appeal than the traditional sonic game
Shit is whack for this company
they do push game hard but i dunno hit another 46k copies like frontiers seems hard to me
and also this is a racing game
I still do not think this will be the game to crack japan realistically but worldwide it'll do pretty damn decent numbers
and japanese gamers did not care about racing series ever
by this point its like, if they were gonna crack japan it would've happened decades ago, they're fighting an uphill battle
but also daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn this fucking 5 miku songs in generally better marketing than vandalize
and she the game herself
and minecraft is also crazy popular in japan
I also thinking having a 12 episode shonen-like anime with the animation similar to today’s anime will boost the series so hard in Japan specifically
To me it just sucks to see SEGA always get treated like this
At least when it comes to sales
It's why I am hoping crossworld finally breaks that trend
this game either gonna sell the same as frontiers and even higher or like another sonic games sold like 5k copies like no in between
idk
because i thought shadow gens is gonna sell like 15-20k copies since they market it and in general game has vibes that japan likes
but then it made like 10k copies
so i dunno
I mean, the big thing that doesn't help too is that the movies helped boost those numbers and over in Japan they just
completely fucked the releases of em lmao
first 2 movies yea (it was more of covid) but 3rd one release there in the same time as everyone else and still did not do much
well yeah, would you go and see just the first installment in a movie series in cinemas having not seen the last two lol
like by that point of course it was diminishing returns there, the damage was done
I don't think there's ever gonna be a game , at least any time soon, that does that
Sega should keep trying, but their focus should remain....everywhere else
tbh I don't mind them trying to focus on japan cos its resulting in things I like lol
Oh 'm with you
ain't gonna crack a million over there but please do keep making miku collabs in the vague chance it could happen
Its' always been a issue with SEGA
this
Just sales alone
Even with ATLUS where despite making huge hits, the sales says otherwise
Again, I don't see SEGA ever doing Nintendo numbers over in Japan (or globally frankly), so they should just be focusing on making good games
I think that's the smartest way to go about it
there's a cultural entrenchment that would take years if not decades to try an impliment to try an dget close to those numbers over there
if they could even get there at all
Exactly
But honestly I feel like we should keep our expectations low from SEGA when it comes to sales alone
I do thnk there are moves they could make that might be more appealing. And there are certainly sonic games that have seen surges. But I thnk at being content that the bulk of your fanbase exists elsewhere and focusing to make the best thing you can make is top priority
whch to its credit, crossworlds seems like just that
Yeah and honestly it works in their favor
as much as the switch 1 version's def gonna be the most compromised it'll def help sales numbers, both in japan and in general
biiiiiiiig ol install base to tap into, especially with folks who haven't got the switch 2 and MKW yet
Even with the people who already have the switch 2, they'll be more incentivized to get that version cuz of the better performance
WAIT I JUST READ THE DESCRIPTION
|| WHAT DO YOU MEAN TIME TRIALS ARE PRETTY MUCH MANDATORY ||
||oh. Thats a REALLY good incentive||
oh thats cool wth
||actual incentives to do shit that’s fire ||
||using time trials not only to learn track but also for purpsoe is cool||
||but this also means im gonna crash out when im 0.00000009 seconds away from get the S rank track ||
||considering that i already played the time trials and enjoyed them a lot, this is a really nice incentive to get a full jukebox||
||you can use crossworlds even as 3rd lap ohhhh give me knockout tour in thsi game||
They’re doing a good job with content
||you can yea, you can put crossworlds as basic courses, so they count for time trials||
Single Player content even
I really want to see what that fucking friendship thing is 😭
wouldn’t it be funny if after all of the rival shit talking it’s just the characters being nice to each other 
so we know it isn’t the friends list, right?
or nah
and amy is the only one who actually competitive
||this is bullshit how tf do i unlock n.tropy then||
What the fuck this game keeps on giving
||BROOOOOOO THIS GAME KEEPS ON WINNING||
||So many options, I just need skins now, but I like that you need to play various modes, they aren't pointless||
Sylvania castle track when
Question , can u play with ur friends in the beta test and in what modes (we’re gonna be on a call and on the same console (switch)
Seems like you can with online play
But what if we don’t got thr online subscription
thennn u can’t
What's the likelihood that the rep only ends there as a nod.
Not saying it is the case, cause I'm waiting with clenched cheeks as much as everyone else.
I mean to be honest if whisper or anyone from idw was in the files they would've found them by now
Seems like that's gonna be the case 😭
but who knows, we'll see
A step up from Boom cosmetics ig
no dlc information exists within the demo files
still vibing to holoska final lap
Yes dude
PLEASEEEE
Such a good reinterpretation of a calm track into something high-energy
I need my anti IDW agenda to stay on!
Wow such good vibes you exude
Imagine I said this every time the same few people shat on Classic Sonic
Fuck IDW bro
loooooooooooooool
🤔
I hope Santiago gets in

it 100x better than Archie tho 
i hate superstars and still want trip in
crazy how that works

modern trip 🙏
Nah
This is why classic sonic wasn't showcased during sonic x shadow gens promotional cycle.
i want this now specifically because it’d probably make freeze mad
ay same, Trip and Fang would rock to have

it's just I need my Whisper and Tangle too
Still better design than… modern sonic 🤮
Because he stinks, and nobody likes his gumball headass.
Cyan bastard.
if that was true the vast majority of stuff from this franchise wouldnt be modern
Noticing how most of the actually respected games in the series are Classic Sonic games
Hmmm
Quality > quantity ngl

phewww wee, i haaaaaaate classic sonic
lmfao
Thank god superstars didn't reach that in-company estimated height.
Put him to rest.
Davih shut up or I’m never giving you boost level design ever again
I dont feel like classic bro will be in the racing game, they would've announced him but there is still the free dlc characters so we have to wait and see
Hmmm
We’ll see lol
They really zoomed in on it to.
counterpoint
merch, games, shows, etc. that use modern make more money
if the design didnt work they wouldnt have kept using it
idgaf about quality
we can argue quality for days
here's the fact tho
modern stuff makes more money
I wouldn't be surprised if they did add him in later, wouldn't mind it though
hey man don't diss my first flash animation
If the merch with Modern makes more money, why does most of the merch include Classic Sonic?
it doesn't
thats personal bias
If you go to literally any amusement park and get shoe bags, it’s all Classic Sonic
We HAVE seen.
THIS is your new classic.
dude sanrio sonic ❤️
He can't ride off of cute factor publicity anymore.
cute marketable sonic
Also superstars sold pretty much the common amount a sonic game sells the thing is that Sega wanted a more short term revenue than to get that amount in the long run + the superstillion amount of discounts the game got
In all the calender mervh arts, they literally have classic, sonic 1 sprite sonic, and modern sonic in the marketing
Sure as hell aren't gonna make him cool again either.
Literally Classic Sonic is still used for toys and major marketing now lmao
You are living in a delusional fantasy
I'm very business savvy 
Stocks, documents, audiences, etc. Etc.
her father sucks though
bro thinks he Darth Vader
that wasn't the argument
the argument you gave was that he was the only being used
if you were right they wouldnt keep using modern
I ain't even gonna continue this cause nothing you say can change that fact
also using ad hominems is a classical sign someone is losing an argument 🙂
(2, 3K, Mania and absolutely nothing else)
Also don’t you literally make Sonic character redesigns on Twitter frequently that appeal to mainly people who want more Classic Sonic elements injected into Modern Sonic’s design
Oh brother
#fraud
Freeze I'm fucking with you
oh my
PAUSE
Sonic with a lil scarf would be pretty cool
CD, 1??

😭 ✌️
game as divisive as heroes and the one nobody has anything good to say about except it started the series
School house
Side series
nah those are mainline classic sonic
Modern Sonic’s most quality games are Gens and Colours -> both games that bite from the Classic Sonic games design philosophy
I give CD and 1 their senior citizen props for being the beginners/setting foundation most of the time out of respect.
But then I turn around and I can't help but talk about the old person smell musk radiating.
Colors feels like Sonic 1 in its game design
Gens also feels the same, has Classic Sonic and a lot of 2D
Hmmmm
i'll bite you from the classic sonic games design standpoint
🤔
I hold a fondness, and a distance.
I’m literally 19 years old
also I fucking hate* Colors, waow
also retroactively changing your argument to be about game design instead of character design is a similar sign of losing an argument
bye yall!
*I don't actually hate it, but I think of it lesser than most other games in the series
i wonder what other game has modern and classic sonic in it
no
HELL NO
No
I'm playing it RIGHT now, and I can tell you no
Didn’t you literally mention games and merch
Its not bad but modern sonic is right there
also also
why the fuck is this in rumors again?
Are you stupid?
Idk
it’s funny that hold x to win is the boost game meme when that’s all you do for classic gens
at least three interactions in game alluding to the comics events 🤫
huh i thought this would continue in anti idw direction
rename this to sonic rumour & classic
I talked about using the character design
never the game design
quit trying to change the argument
fqwoipk
True, let me overlay more music on sonic crossworld victory dances to make me and others happy.
Kill this guy
Classic City ecape
anyway
I might use that overplayed John Legend song from 2011 this time.
im of the opinion idw will prob never make it into anything outside of like mobile games tbh
Classic Rooftop run
What was it, best you ever had? Or somthn.
classic is fine, cd is literally its best game but we all here for modern sonic anyways
I'll figure it out.
MY MAN
Classic Sonic’s downfall in Gens is having mid physics which is due to Modern Sonic Team’s decision making
Ngl
I really just want anyone other than the main 4 if we ever see classic in this game😭
And I hope they take Modern Sonic in a direction that makes him lesser than the sum of his parts…
Frontiers 2 save me please
Bark, Bean, Fank the Fucker, Trip especially omg
frontiers 2, annihilate this man
I love Fank the Fucker
Nope
I mean tbh im sure we will get classic as like a free update char or some shit around june
Classic is carried too hard by the spin dash in gens
man i need fank so fanking bad
Me when frontiers 2 removes the boost, has rolling physics, more stylised environments and new models = me pleased!
I kinda
doctor when he sees Freeze (Sonic Frontiers 2 killed him)
Oh yeah June feels like a good bet
I mean its the 35th
Iizuka said the plan is to release a free character every month
Don't want a classic character to fill a free dlc slot
id be more shocked if it didnt happen tbh
so I’d say Classic Sonic is locked for June
Gens Classic for me is the biggest arguments to why accurate physics matter imo…
tbh those slots will only be permanent if the game doesn’t do well
I personally think the free dlc slots are gonna be non sonic chars
mostly sega rep ofc
if people like it and it gets proper support, we’re gonna get a lot more free/paid dlc in the future
I can see June being the exception
I also think this with the exception of June bc anniversary bullshit
Sonic Team gives the character a rolling move that doesn’t work as the representation for Classic Sonic and people dare to argue against a little level of incompetency 😭 😭
and them putting Santiago in the game
but that's about it
maybe movie stuff if the support continues to 2027
Santiago in the big 25 😭 ✌️
26*
fuck that guy he beat me up and locked me in my own basement for several days
Give me characters I care abouuuuuuut
lowkey impersonated me for a while that shit was fucked up
you got off too easy honestly
the guys from super game are most likely to get in
beat, crazy guy, shinobi
the police never caught him, he could go after any of you guys
iizuka did say some characters from ASR will return in an interview
holy shit
one person who actually remembers that the super game wasn't a literal singular game
I still hear ppl ask what that was
Characters we need in Crossworlds ->
Classic Sonic
Fang
Trip
Motobug
Egg Robo
Metal Knuckles
so could be aiai, samba de amigo, beat, crazy taxi
I mean I figure as much
it was the revivals dog
they had an article that said that
people are not ready for alex kidd comeback...
That ain't happening bro
ok but it'd be funny
why the fuck call it a super game if it’s multiple games
call it super games not super game
Ngl why can’t they add more Sonic characters in Crossworlds
less words to type

idk some weird marketing shit
but its all the revivals
A super game
I don’t think they ever said they wouldn’t, but tbf half the current roster are considered deep cuts anyway
ngl this roster kinda ass 😭
there are millions of people who have never even heard of a vector the crocodile
who playing as motobug
to be fair, I play as Spike in MK World
nobody want that bum when eggpawn is here
someone would play as motobug
I'll probably play Egg Pawn too
stupid ass pick, but I don't care lmao
Classic and Movie variants were solid assumptions because of the synergy and Superstars has rep, but then again movie content for 2026 has been deconfirmed
Fang has a mini ship so he can easily get into the game
that said, Prime cast members are available in the Digital Deluxe
I'd want the more obvious classic characters in
so if they’re in, I doubt they’d skip classic
give me witchcart honestly
dude
I rather have more SEGA chars instead
Prime is popular but I highly doubt they’d be the only characters from other corners of the franchise making their way in
question
I just had a thought
wasn't one of the long known mandates that like classic chars and modern chars were to be essentially kept seperate for the most part
Given that amy flat out mentions trip in dialogue is it safe to say thats gone?
and of course there was also the Werehog DLC
Like the ones I mentioned earlier + Mighty Ray from Hero 108
classic characters have been able to be mentioned aloud since like 2023 with tailstube #5
they just can’t be shown or used in any storylines
if we do go for SEGA stuff, Arle somehow not being in the game would be a travesty
You get a point for Metal Knuckles
and that's coming from someone who doesn't care about Puyo Puyo
he has a modern version in Blitz
that's so weird
and random
Not a pick for me, but a pick for the society
mighty in frontiers 2 maybe?
modern mighty hasn’t been unveiled yet so I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t appear in the game itself
i’m still a little sad kiryu isn’t in
it would be weird, why would they make a new model and design if they're not gonna use it lol
honestly this, Puyo has been way more relevant outside japan than at the time of ASRT
it's time
Ngl they shouldn't have put those gorilla bootystank characters in as the separate character pack
I’d be very surprised if Sega just lets them use him but then again the freedom fighters showed up in the text files so fucking anything is possible
but also Arle would fit in like a glove
that's because they just got all the characters from chatpgt lmfao
literally freedom fighters characters bio is the one from sonic wiki
I feel like you said a slur there and I don't like that
I think nibroc confirmed that he helped/worked on all the models, and I imagine he’s had modern versions of the classic guys for a long time
all the text files are just straight rips from the wiki
exactly
"gorilla bootystank"
ChatGPT makes stuff up though, those descriptions are pretty copy and paste
i thought nibroc said otherwise
the blitz Twitter account also acknowledged the Archie situation directly
when
I am just realizing that there’s a chance you guys have no idea that account exists
First time I've heard of it
There is a Sonic Blitz account?
I know the account exists, I just never checked it
@Alex_Hedgefox2 @Mylesdaloreguy @Sakuxruaaq25 I wish I had an answer to everyone's questions about the Archie Comics characters, but as you all know, that's a bit more complicated.
The game just launched in only two countries, so for now we're focusing on making a great game 😊
who's alex
This past month I’ve realized how much people fucking hate Prime because in all the character main tier lists they rank insanely low
im sure the kids will like it but jesus christ
they barely got internet 😭
Well...
archie fan who is weird about flynn and also everything else you would expect
they should get clubhouse mickey instead he's hitting that shit
But like honestly while I don't mind seeing classic chars, but having more than just classic sonic in crossworld free DLC? No thank you
Even with Trip (As much I adore he) I still say no
Sorry, but this is the closest I can have ASR3; so I have my reason to care more over SEGA chars appearing instad
do hope the game is succesful enough to justify more free dlc
whether it brings in more SEGA chars or Sonic ones
the more the merrier and all that
ok but modern mickey or classic mickey?
one's a skin and the other's the character
Me!!
ngl I'd also probably play as a motobug if I was feeling goofy
Fuck no
Origins Motobug or I riot
nvm now I hate the idea
Your against Fang, Trip and Classic Sonic?
E-Stadium has a surprise for you!
or you WHAT
OPPA
cough
OPPA
no, but like motobug is so random lmao
so is cow
is this an actual official account
looking thru rumble’s followers and uhhhhh
wow they really are related https://twitter.com/_sonicblitz/status/1960254616215371835?s=46&t=9-8r2BsnJTX3NUa7wKHeIQ
I don’t think this accounts for much lmao
anyways which game of the two is gonna get canned first place yer bets
No, it makes sense, they're following influencers, Rumble JP and Korea, and Blitz
both are heading full throttle towards the shitter but which turd’s heavier to sink first
i genuinely think blitz will last longer
I mean, it's hard to say anything about Blitz, it's in as proper of a soft-launch as it could be
rumble is practically DOA by this point
It’s not stringing people along with inaccessible global events and the hype cycle died so hard basically every comment whenever the acc posts is about when it comes out
I think rumble will last the same period of time as sonic runners
was gonna say
It's not the same as what Rumble's doing
blitz, meanwhile, I think its obscurity is in its favour
they're both rovio right
it’s also not online dependant like rumble is? but I might be wrong
rumble is both Rovio and Sega/Sonic Team
blitz is just Rovio straight up
If they don’t do anything stupid they’ll clutch this
but a late 2027/2028 delist from the App Store is inevitable
and of course, Sonic Forces: Speed Battle will outlive them both
because fuck you
I think blitz is gonna be the first to go purely cos of how rovio's like lol
delisting shit and bunging out experiments left right and centre
I fell out of Angry Birds right before they started their worst practices so I’d probably be a lot madder if I was still a serious fan
but yeah that shit suuuuucks
rumble I don't think will last much longer but they will at least try to do a worldwide launch on the sheer basis of sunk cost fallacy/partnerships for collabs already locked down
from that point tho I give it like, six months tops lol
oh god is rumble a dumping ground for the collabs they couldn’t get for crossworlds
"look you can't be in our full-price kart racer but you can be in our afterthought fall guys clone, how about it lads"
still haven't forgiven them for delisting Retry smh...... 

Please Shade
Please Shade
Please Shade
BROOOOOOOOOOO
HE IS SO FUCKING MAD AT WHOEVER THIS IS LMFAOO 😭😭😭
My money is on the Egg Pawn 💀 https://t.co/99RtF4C3Lc
I AM LOSING IT MAN!
💀
WHY IS SHADOW FUCKING FLABBERGASTED!?
can it be charmy
do we have shadow & charmy interactions yet
PLEASE BE CHARMY
Calm down, if this aint for charmy they fucked up
Also this line aint that well delivered the intention is funny though
nah it's just the way it delivered that made me laughed so hard regardless of whom
who else would he be fucked off with in the roster
It's either Charmy or Egg Pawn
two names that start with z
I hope its not big
its to Big according to the commentaries
Doubt it's Zavok
egg pawn he'll prolly be like "pathetic, I've wiped out dozens of you" or something
No way it's Big
BIG?!
wow
after shadow gens???
saved his ass in white space then decided he hated him 😭
Shadow underestimating Big's powers 💀
I think is just some kind of reference since big is always in random places
we never expected him in shadow gens either
Charmy has one worse
I want charmy to be an upsetting presence for shadow
"Maria asked me to protect all life in the planet. Unfortunately, that also includes you"
Thats not real is it
No way, One of Amy’s voice lines has her mentioning Trip the Sungazer from Sonic Superstars! #SonicRacingCrossWorlds
︀︀
︀︀Full Video: youtu.be/o5RnkMrWP14?si=u8kUqabF-mc7dAse
Im gonna be honest
Wow amys lines are all good at the start
I dont see the point in mentioning classic characters or idw characters if we are never going to see them in modern games
Trip responding by beating the shit out of Dodonpa for making her island into a racetrack
I mean why not
it leaves the door open for it to at least happen i guess
i'll take it over the outright separation they were doing before
No idea
it's a really weird thing
Though I guess that's what made Amy in crossworlds fail: The oddly inconsistent direction
also they found the JP Lines
according to a person that checked them in gamescage's discord
Sage got neutered
lol
"Go home SIlver"
I think this might be the generic guest response?
That shit will be funny af if so
You are correct
he claps back?????????
||WELP LMFAO||
oh my god lmao????
||The perfect Big response: unintentional diss||
NAAAAAA 😭
the most boring people on the planet are going to insist that this is better
boring and, probably, obnoxious
XASKXBASCXGSTXFHGV
AYO
Nobody fucks with Charmy it's so funny😭
as they should
Uh, amended again. ||Blaze and Metal interaction ||
||What is it?||
||people pointed out that the only time Blaze would’ve faced off with Metal directly would’ve been Battle for Angel Island||
||Interesting||
exactly
Tbf I'd be mad as fuck too if I had to deal with him😭
Maybe shadow social batter on empty
Top secret disks too much
FIVE! FUCK! ||Silver mentions fighting the Zeti in banter with Zazz||
||bro it’s time||
||time for what||
||5th IDW reference|| @plush moth
||oh shit, that does make 5||
I pretend I don’t see it
SHIT ITS SIX! ITS SIX!
||god I probably should’ve paid way more attention to the Zeti interactions when I did my read through 💀 ||
||it’s pretty funny that this technically makes them patient zero for IDW allusions though||
||IDW’s canon status being solidified solely to avoid 90% of Zavok’s rival interactions being characters going “who the fuck are you” is quite possibly the funniest result lmao||
The percentage is still pretty high though
||Honestly that makes it even better LMAO||
||Zavok really got slandered so hard 💀 ||
understandable reaction to having met red mid bowser tbh I too would forget abt him if I met actual bowser at the olympics
yeah im checking again, this time it’ll be Zeti specifically
seven emeralds! seven rings in hand! ||tails: “have you forgotten all the times I helped beat you?” (times implies multiple, so this is most likely referring to MV + Zeti Hunt)
||
Ok at this point
Might as well make Tangle and Whisper here and voiced
Like come on
side note
I noticed this a while ago but since we are talking about the Zeti, I might as well bring it up here
||big’s talking about TSR here obviously, and how Zavok was one of the racers||
Thats insane
||But as far as I can tell, Zavok is one of the few people who does not reference the events of TSR. arguably it could be put into question with his interaction with Silver, but that changes a lot when Zavok indicates that he straight up doesn’t remember who Big is||
||crystal mones and the ice one||
||the only other characters he doesn’t acknowledge with some semblance of knowledge when he’s the rival are Blaze, the Egg Pawn, and Sage||
with all this observation I think I’ve figured it out, moving forward Ian’s scripts will probably occasionally acknowledge the events of the comics in casual dialogue the same way his scripts acknowledge previous games
yeah you aen't wrong. Zavok is pretty forgettable for most people
They really don't gaf about Zavok, I'm dying
💀
At least they treat Metal Sonic as a dangerous creature
Zavok? They all went like, "Who?"
Zavok has the biggest L currently holy fuck
and I need to see MORE
You’ll get more when you go get me a cup of coffee from across the street
Sure
N.Gin Labs & Polar Pass
To be fair, Zavok did not race that much in TSR
In TSR, he was mostly hiding in the shadows to spy on the other racers and to find Dodon Pa's Secret project
He only started to race because he got noticed, which happens somewhat close to the climax when Eggman kidnaps Dodon Pa
By Silver I believe
(Big was the first one to notice someone was hiding but it was not given much thought by the others. They just got more wary about this)
Oh little mistake, he was spotted by the Chao
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But yeah, out of the 39 minutes narrative, Zavok enters in the race at the 23 minutes 30 second mark
(and he also only interacts with Eggman I think so that helps lol)
||The Zeti being the ones who help to solidify the IDW is canon agenda||
Its not an agenda though? They said it it is, just ish
If it does not conflict with stuff they wanna do. And you should take it on arc by arc basis
But its canon
All I care is putting IDW chars and classic chars in frontiers 2
🗿
And bringing Neo metal sonic back
I want Neo back. I'd want any character back just for the banter and references.
did a quick rough machine translation of the JP lines I was most curious about
it looks like overall the translation itself is less frontiers-style different and moreso sa2-style different. The dialogue I’ve seen so far either preserves the general spirit of the existing interaction or is just the existing one word for word
ian flynn
it’s still not a great sign in the long term but im less worried about the future and more worried about the response
side note, this might be a translation bug, but apparently Sage brings up Gerald directly to Shadow instead of saying “Robotnik Clan”
On the IDW front due to the way dialogue was shifted some things were removed, but Blaze still mentions her country being at peace and Espio still refers to his fight with Zazz
interesting
Oh thank god
Better for everyone to be on the same page regarding these characters than the opposite
it seems like the major discrepancy is just Sage, but I’ll check her lines more carefully to be sure
Amy has some better dialogue when she’s the rival but some of her best lines when she’s playable have been a little dampened, but that might just be the language barrier
she doesn’t reference follow me anymore but she does mention fortune so that’s 5 think pieces confirmed
NOOOOOO
I think the aggressive side of Amy is being played up, because honestly Amy at her best in the Jp d-LMAOOOOOO
That
That's amazing
toyoda looking at that line like
it's a good song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhp4fT8iyS8
Follow Me by Kay Hanley (Team Rose's Theme from Sonic Heroes)
Lyrics
Verse 1
Anywhere you wanna go
Anything you need to know
All the best in life I wanna get it for you
Lately I just feel so fine
I imagine that you're mine
In my world you're gold
I only wanna protect you
And whatever I want, I get
I want a shooting star
Whatever I need, I h...
hhhhhhhnnngggg
need a better translation for this because it’s too early to tell but it does feel like Sage is neutered a bit
Sonic and Eggman interactions seem to have taken a big hit
charmy's line should just be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYRjdK0BaD0
Espio: Born in the Darkness to live in the darkness! That's the ninja's creed!
Charmy: Bee-Bee-Bee! Charmy the Bee! Charmy the Bee's got lots of honey!
Vector: Yeah, yeah I'm the one, I'm Vector the Crocodile, herherherher!
Weirdly enough, she complements Tails in one of her rival lines?
saikko means the best or great
↪️ Replying to @stockindonut
@stockindonut How is this actually in the game 😭
that’s funny
wait
is that real?
There's no way
the fact this in the same game and likely written by the same person that spawned fandom discussion of the cool ass sage and silver future possibility
idk that kind of tickles me a certain way
Ian is funny
Oh my god it’s going to keep going like this isnt it 
20 years of hot dog taco hamburger
GAME DESIGN SONIC FANS WHERE ARE YOUUUUUU
I NEED YOU
What
Preferably the ones that think past just rolling = good tho
really only the natural conclusion for sonic
I dont get this
But what does this meannn
Talking about the same old shit
Ohhh
It means that it's the same shit over and over
No it’s about mortality
But yes every day on the radio it’s the same five songs
Honestly; I just don't want Ian Flynn to shoulder everything for the games solely on the English side in terms of a writer.
It'd be nice to utilize more of the IDW writers, or have some entries be written by Japanese writers in a revolving door fashion imo.
We need more people for sure
Even as someone that doesn't have much trepidation about Ian Flynn's writing quirks; I'd rather not deal with it every entry or project.
Utilize your character cast and Utilize your creative crew.
ian flynn
the next person who says ian flynn in this channel are getting their lips sniped off with scissors
Know what would be a good way to get more writers? Allow stories centering on other side characters in the comics again. Manga included.
nnylf nai
as someone who sees the issue i don't see the issue
I.F
Ianu fulynnu
eatin' flan
Ian Flynn
I’m waiting.
whensrell you shouldn’t have done that
Yeah.
Tails fixed Omega for the first time in Forces (albeit it was weird) but in IDW he fixed him twice
the first time was after Omega's body was used by Eggman in the post metal virus aftermath, and then he fixed Omega again when he sparred against Gemerl
Sounds like you can buy them in-game
with the tickets I assume
after having unlocked them
How skinny are these skins gonna be
Sage is the only indication of what to expect
Or is this gonna be a situation where they just recycle all the Speed Sim/mobile skins again
😭
Not much
I would love those tbh
Most characters don't have alt designs
That'd be the best case scenario honestly
I guess riders outfits would be an obvious one
I think those skins have high potential to be here
also part of the mobile skins menagerie lol
Unfortunately probably means dlc characters will get shafted again
Ironically Miku Ichiban and Joker all have easy skins they can add
it's an extra feature I personally really want in the game, so I hope they are in
But since this is in Race Park, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just those digital creatures that are rivals in Race Park and that's it
Normal Miku outfit, Hawaii Ichiban and school Joker
that's the cheapest theory, and more than likely true
I would not be surprised if they are available later on though
the mobile skins
every Sonic party game has those, why not here
Also judging by how easily modders have replaced characters
And how things like Sonic's quill physics still somehow function correctly with different Sonic models
Feels like they accounted for more robust skins, but who knows. Could be just what Bobnik said
It's just strange they haven't advertised it at all yet
I mean I kinda have hope that we’ll get skins like MoStH costumes or IDW costumes. But my expectations aren’t the highest
IDW costumes = mobile
MoStH is too niche probably
And none canon for some semantic reason so they will torch it to death

some of those are in Rumble
I’d say mobile costumes are probably fair game but it’s unknown what the extent of the skins are
there’s a 90% chance that the skins themselves are just recolours and not like actual costumes or anything
the Sage recolour is, uh, that basically
I'd be okay with skins depending on how they're implemented re:unlocks
someone elsewhere mentioned how freemium-currency-like the dodonpa tickets could be if implemented wrong and that is a worrying possibility lol
I think its the reverse
They have said openly and plainly they want this game to last a long time, and they have a studio producing assets for ther characters that can be used in this game they can resell you
Sonic hasn't done recolor skins since Colors Ultimate
I think we'll be fine on the skin department
I mean yeah but they can’t just rip the suits out of dash and call it a day
Who said you could
work would need to be done
but they assets exist
also they are likely just gonna make new costumes and shit too
I mean that’s the thing, they also have general maintenance to do, alongside the dlc projects for free and paid characters, I imagine collabs take pretty high priority considering how hard they’re pushing them
yes that's every online game
how much manpower are they gonna spare to retopo and reskin several mobile costumes when they could do one or two and make the rest recolours
As much as they need
Microtranaction make dollar line go up big dog
they'll figure it out.
if we don't get Batman Shadow and Batmobile skins next year, I'll be sad
I feel like that's happening
give him the horn
and th ebats come out
you get like the btas stinger
I think some kind of DC DLC is possible
DDLC
if they are committed to doing like, actual skins, then DC costumes are a given + vehicles, but they’ve also announced a few sticker collabs recently
I would gladly pay for any DC collab, but the dc skins are my top priority
Best guess, it’s the cyber skins that were leaked for the game
Those were apart of a different mode though right? Nothing suggested they were, like, actually skins
i mean might as well
they have the asset why not let you unlock them
especially makes sense to introduce people to the store, so then when they start putting in skins that cost money its not foreign feeling
||this pretty heavily implies it since they are the rivals in race park ||
oh that's literally the og tweet
oh well
point made
Going back to this - I don't see them going that route because you can get Donpa tickets from pretty much anything you play
I ended up with over 3K by the end of the test
oh hey, have some unused shit.
First off, ||Joker's "MusicJacket" icon for Jukebox||
next up, ||two unused Online menu thumbnails for Friend Match and Legend Lobbies||
||some unused rules images for the Festival mode due to the Joker Festival only using 3 rules out of the 9 available (Boost, Drift, Extreme Items????, Players hit, collision with enemy players and spindrift)||
|| Legend Lobbies are gonna be so toxic, can't wait ||
||It’d be a lot more worse if there was proximity chat||
||so that’s what this is for lmao https://youtu.be/-UiGrhV-_rE?si=ldkPuYDfbQZ-d6mt||
Ripped directly from the game files. Enjoy
||that is my assumption yea||
||Most likely yeah, but the fact they even do legend lobbies is insane||
||They really are pushing hard over this method and ngl? This may change a lot over Crossworld's future||
erm
have these been mentioned yet
i don’t remember seeing anyone talk about their being ||secret/crossworld grand prix||
Huh
I believe it was determined that was what the three GPs at the bottom of the list were?
Huh?
Well technically
No

No "technically"
Well alright
It's literally what I said
So yeah the collab cups will probably be called CrossWorld cups 😭
I hope they don't, that'd be confusing
Cuz like, in the ONT they were called Collab Cups
the SECRET cup and HIDDEN world isn't a part of it 🥀
It was Hidden in Lost World, it's kinda cool that the extra cup is made up of the 3 most recent games
i am going to go BROKE in 2027 because of all the films coming out
i thought this was the lobby 
digging through the text strings for w/e at this point
i guess this is what the friendship menu thing is ??
also dont think this has been mentioned, ||super sonic seems to be locked to grand prix lol||
I mean that wasn’t hard to figure out, donpa at the start of the game says you’ll unlock a super racer if you finish the cups
with a not so subtle super sonic silhouette
Socia links in my sonic?
i mean yeah obviously it's super sonic
i mean as in it sounds like you can't play him outside of grand prix
oh !
that's lame
thought it might be like he mobile game. Make him a skin
eventually make a skin for the other super forms
i would use em
seems like a good skin
Is it really social links
i don't thnk so i'm goofin
can someone gift me tickets :)
probably the file name for the haunted pumpkin stage whatever it’s called
water palace was called atlantis I think
oh damn
well
I guess that means he's overpowered
I do wonder what is it tho
but Im gonna take a guess and say is that he can run through grass with no problem and have unlimited boost like frenzy
I think I've seen someone mention that he || has 20 stat points to each stat? || Might be wrong tho
Super sonic getting ready to be the banned char again
That’s it?
I thought he’d max out every stat
You'll probably be able to do that with the +20 stats gadget on top of it
||isn't he grand prix only anyway||
Does anyone have the list of the stages in crossworlds
Nevermind found it
Ripped directly from the game files. Enjoy
Im gonna put my guesses
After Wonder Museum, is ||Crystal Mine||
Then its ||Pumpkin Mansion||
||Urban Canyon,
Coral Town,
Blizzard Valley,
Chao Park,
Dodonpas Factory,
Aqua Forest,
Eggman Expo,
Then Main theme||
||i think i can fairly confidently say the one place it feels like crossworlds is probably gonna be undercooked in is the single player unless they have anything besides race park still somehow hidden by this point. it's literally just the online festival team mode but against CPUs with different rival teams for vehicle parts/tickets from what i can tell||
We kinda figured that already
🐴
But yeah, I think I gave up hope when the first description that came out for Race Park was "local multiplayer"
So it's even surprising that you can do Race Park solo at all
Or that you get an incentive to do time trials in the form of || music for the jukebox ||
wasn't really expecting a story mode but even the mission campaigns in sega all stars/transformed do a pretty good job at padding out the game's length compared to just time trials and gp so i'm kinda sad it looks like there's nothing really on par with them here
even tho i'm sure online will make up for it
btw it looks like crossworlds gonna have its own gp
I guess the CrossWorld GPs will have each lap be a different course.
That's from time trial, no?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
no
it is yes
yk
idk
I'm gonna go through 4chan to look through Sonic leaks
There has to be something missed
i know because i was playing earlier today 
||why sonic looks so squished?||
Now, I'm not gonna say it's the case before there is more clear quality..
But those look AI generated as fuck.
I mean tbf pubg just kinda looks like that
||So Avatar only has 2 characters||






