#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation

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wide portal
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4D chess

prime hearth
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having done my best to gleam the chat after a day out and about: I’m like 99% sure the person is just fully bullshitting for attention lol

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couldnae give a fuck what they’re on about, I met baby yoda mate

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he swears more in real life than on the telly

pulsar horizon
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He’s literally just laying there minding his business

safe hull
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The context is literally 3 seconds before that gif

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He bit the trooper's finger

smoky summit
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Can someone ask the playtester fellow if there were a lot of people at the playtest session?

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Thank you in advance

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Will guarantee you prosperity for 5 hours

grand cobalt
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tobias it’s over

past matrix
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And thank God so.

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I tapped out after learning it was within the SiC fallout bunker shelter server

smoky summit
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It's not over till it's over

wide portal
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it’s over

glossy sphinx
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It's not over till it's over

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right Tobe?

cunning echo
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They wouldn't do that

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When sonic team finds a formula they want build games off they try to squeeze it as much as they can

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Sometimes they might make one or two changes to add to a game gimmick (heroes, shadow the hedgehog) but overall they stick with that until they feel like it's time to do something fresh

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The only time they went backwards was with forces because of the game being made for the quick money recovery for Sega due to boom

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Also shadow gens despite being more linear kind of game still uses their new formula structure

smoky summit
glossy sphinx
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k

wide portal
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till is when I say it’s till

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and it’s till

smoky summit
rugged otter
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guys I got a delicious leak for you all, in essence I met yuji naka and he told me he doesn't work at sega since 2006, the series is cooooooooked
enjoy this out of context tiny image

smoky summit
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In essence

hasty plume
rugged otter
untold kayak
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||Classic Sonic in crossworlds||

modest parcel
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YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

rugged otter
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HELL YES

still epoch
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HOW

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WHERE

still epoch
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WHERE IS HE

untold kayak
rugged otter
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YESSSS

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||HE HAS THE CAR||

modest parcel
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Oh uh

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That's

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That's uh

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Hrm

grand cobalt
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two very different reactions here

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why is the image not loading fuck !!!

untold kayak
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I fate FXTwitter

prime hearth
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oh it looks kinda

modest parcel
untold kayak
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I tried to translate it lmao

prime hearth
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bad lmao 😭

grand cobalt
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what in the

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why does he look like that LMAO

still epoch
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Why did we ask for him again

grand cobalt
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I mean, there’s the car !

rugged otter
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the render isn't great i'm just glad he got the car, though I'd like to see it at another angle

untold kayak
prime hearth
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maybe its the angle throwing it off but

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doesn't look as good as the apple arcade one tbh

zinc spear
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So uhhh

still epoch
zinc spear
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guess ||freeze got what he wanted||

rugged otter
still epoch
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They have still time to fix it

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Make him dark blue

grand cobalt
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how long ago was this

rugged otter
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||it's funny how it looks kinda not too far from pac-man's car 😭
guess these are the costs of modifying designs to fit the modular nature of them for customization ||

untold kayak
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Just a few minutes ago

grand cobalt
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and how much traction did the post get

untold kayak
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Geno got the capture but the website updated so it is no longer there

grand cobalt
still epoch
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Geno is cool he wouldnt fake it

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Actual cool person

grand cobalt
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alright then

prime hearth
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anyone got the banner before this (ie the one with the pac trailer)

still epoch
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Hes basically a non official sonic embassador in brazil

prime hearth
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I wanna compare compositions

untold kayak
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it's the japanese website I believe

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I got it wrong and its the Japanese one, not the Korean one

still epoch
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Why is his car so lame looking

grand cobalt
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isn’t the car specifically the one yall wanted 😭

prime hearth
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hate to say it but I'm looking closer at this and the more I look, the faker it seems sadly

cunning echo
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is the one from the apple arcade

modest parcel
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Nvm I think this is fake

still epoch
grand cobalt
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so who made it

still epoch
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No idea

prime hearth
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every other one of these banners they've moved characters around, this one he's just

grand cobalt
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can’t believe this henry

prime hearth
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chucked at the back and the motion blur isn't consistent

grand cobalt
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I trusted you

still epoch
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What

prime hearth
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that and he hasn't got the flashes of lens flare light on him

still epoch
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Hmmm

prime hearth
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chrome inspect element strikes again

grand cobalt
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oh true, the lens flare

still epoch
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Man if geno is lying hes actually fucked

humble drum
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||I'M CLASSICING IT||

still epoch
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This guy has immense credibility in brazil

humble drum
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||I'M SO RETRO||

prime hearth
silent haven
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wasn’t this on a fadel stream what happened to that

humble drum
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||now add classic knuckles or else||

grand cobalt
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anyways what I was gonna say earlier is that what are the odds of the page getting updated for just a few minutes, a guy happening to catch the page within that amount of time, and it refreshing without it just a few minutes later

prime hearth
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that answers that

rugged otter
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well then

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guess this was a false alarm explains why even if it's current iteration of classic that the render looks so off

grand cobalt
silent haven
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boring ass leaks getting debunked after 10 minutes im going back to bed…….

grand cobalt
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goodnight crossworlds streams tomorrow

modest parcel
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Moral of the story

Good red car

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Bad red car

still epoch
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Fucking ugly betch

humble drum
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now where's this car

modest parcel
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Like damn why are they looking away like that

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Roger Rabbit esque bashful car

humble drum
still epoch
modest parcel
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I'd be down for it if I didn't have my hopes up

humble drum
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when is breeze the sentient car returning (idw doesn't count)

raw ether
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I suppose geno_td will probably have those tweets deleted and make a post in a few hours mayhaps

still epoch
rugged otter
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we need to know

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what became of it

humble drum
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does sonic r happen before or after drift
cause either this car magically came to life later
or this is the dead husk

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and it either changed to red or blue

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in whichever order

smoky summit
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This isn't my next gen leaking experience

still epoch
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The car died

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It literally appeared once never said anything and died

humble drum
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well

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twice both drifts

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and in the classic sonic 30th anniversary idw special

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so three times

cunning echo
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so

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was classic fake?

still epoch
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Probbly

humble drum
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oh

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4 times

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sonic the hedgehog's gameworld

cunning echo
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tbf, the only thing that makes it look fake is that the car doesnt have a light coming from it like the others

wide portal
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it looks a little off but it could be 50/50

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idk why they’d randomly update the website like this unless a classic reveal is happening sometime soon and this was just on accident

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like idk. it could be fake but at the same time why

cunning echo
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yeah exactly

torn trench
wide portal
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also can you load images into a modified inspect element??? that’s the thing tripping me up about that video

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oh wait his quills are super fucking short

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that makes it feel like 80% more credible 😭

modest parcel
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The perspective would have to be like

cunning echo
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is also a really specific render

modest parcel
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Supremely fucked up for it to be real

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Which ig is possible

wide portal
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hmmmmm

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this could be done relatively quickly in Photoshop

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but idk

pulsar horizon
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So when do you think he’ll be announced

wide portal
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uhh idk

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if this is real then maybe tomorrow or next week?

past matrix
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My main question is where's the blur effect

wide portal
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lowkey I’m thinking about what Fadel said earlier about a sonic event that he wasn’t supposed to mention

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could it be….

grand cobalt
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getting the 3 quill silhouette right on one version of sonic and fucking it up on the other one is a funny thing to think about

wide portal
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c-c-c-

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cen—

pulsar horizon
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Cause like we don’t really have a lot of the free characters yet we have every paid DLC character so far

wide portal
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cen—cen—

modest parcel
wide portal
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cen-COUGH

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CHRGH GUHH

grand cobalt
modest parcel
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I just don't get it

wide portal
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that that’s blood that’s blood on my shirt

grand cobalt
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No trail, no blur

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No lens flare

cunning echo
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at the same time, why whould someone fake classic ngl

grand cobalt
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??

humble drum
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cause funny

cunning echo
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Maybe is just a non finished image

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and that's all

wide portal
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I was gonna ask this but then I realized it’s a very stupid question (no offense ofc)

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like why does anybody fake anything

humble drum
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I would fake infinite just because

wide portal
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any attention is good attention, and people have been speculating about classic for a while

grand cobalt
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I feel like classic sonic has been one of the most speculated sega/sonic characters is he not

wide portal
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it seems real which gives it more credence to trick people

grand cobalt
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especially since we thought pac man’s car was HIS car for a while

cunning echo
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Yeah but like henry said, the guy from the tweet is almost like a sega embassador so is weird for him to fake something like that

wide portal
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obviously classic has a 99% shot as is too

humble drum
cunning echo
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To me is just oddly specific because they could've add another character like Trip for example

grand cobalt
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Classic making it in is an inevitably I have no doubts about that, but I don’t think this is it

still epoch
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I think its possible geno got duped

wide portal
cunning echo
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Yeah I was thinking that, maybe they received the footage from someone

still epoch
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He is very gungho about just jumping into sometjing

wide portal
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yeah but that seems to be like baseline asset reuse/classic rep

grand cobalt
wide portal
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this mural is running out of fucking space dawg

wide portal
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put him next to his older self

grand cobalt
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It already happened between the first and the one with pac man

untold kayak
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Oh seems it is fake

still epoch
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OH CLASSIC SONIC IS LITERALLY A PNG OVER THE OTHERS

untold kayak
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a friend of fadel told him that it is a custom-made render

wide portal
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yeah okay it’s wraps

modest parcel
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Oh lmao 💀

rugged otter
prime hearth
grand cobalt
modest parcel
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I KNEW MY GOAT WOULDN'T BE A FRAUD LIKE THAT

wide portal
grand cobalt
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alright show’s over

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go home everyone

rugged otter
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as someone who wouldn't mind classic at all
if you're gonna make a fake, why not something REALLY wild

humble drum
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we have 2 of these
and another one is owned by sega

untold kayak
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@SupaBug121 🇧🇷: Bem, isso já foi longe então vou revelar a verdade. Isso foi um experimento social. O @SupaBug121 fez um render do Sonic Clássico usando um carro editado da COCONUT MALL e decidimos postar. É engraçado como o pessoal é rápido em acreditar num brasileiro random da internet.

pulsar horizon
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I wonder why Werehog and the prime characters aren’t in the banner

modest parcel
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You can never kill a legend

humble drum
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I'm not saying we're getting among us but

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I'm not saying we're not either

untold kayak
rugged otter
grand cobalt
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so that’s his ingame superstars model they were using

still epoch
modest parcel
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oh my god bro

rugged otter
cunning echo
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Not the cocunot car bruh 😭

still epoch
untold kayak
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LCIHCCHYG

prime hearth
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we got coconut malled HJGDSABJGSDA

modest parcel
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THE PERSPECTIVE WAS FUCKED THEN OH MY GOD

grand cobalt
forest fractal
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Lmaooooo

cunning echo
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Geno betrayed us 💔

still epoch
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Well FUCK ME I GUESS

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FUCK THIS GUY

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DAMN

cunning echo
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At least he straight up said it

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Some would be pushing it more

modest parcel
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Dude the chances of him clarifying that as SOON as I ask about it 💀

grand cobalt
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NEVER believe in people guys, that’s rule one

still epoch
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i dont trust anyone here

cunning echo
still epoch
wide portal
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a

grand cobalt
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wait

wide portal
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A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT????

grand cobalt
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this is good

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MORE FAKE LEAKS

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ENCOURAGE IT

still epoch
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This was a funny few minutes

still epoch
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Unlike the last

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In the same day

humble drum
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||new leak||

cunning echo
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Frontir 2 one?

grand cobalt
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anyways see you guys when classic is announced as a free racer in a few months

wide portal
still epoch
humble drum
grand cobalt
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If among us is the last season pass racer none of you will be alive to witness my wrath

still epoch
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I FORGOT ABOUT THIS

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I DORGOT ANLUT THIS

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I FORGOT ABOUT THSI

forest fractal
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Straight up faking my shit

prime hearth
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its so funny that we've had two fake leaks today and only one has been good

humble drum
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among us or godzilla what do we think

still epoch
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Godzilla would to crazy

prime hearth
humble drum
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the turtles are 4 characters

so the the last spot is crewmate and impostor

grand cobalt
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Oh right I keep forgetting Crossworlds is 100% going to keep getting supported if it does well past the first year

prime hearth
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my money for the last slot's on movie sonic & shadow tbh

smoky summit
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The quality of the render was lowkey poor but I kinda just attributed it to whoever was making it was just as tired of classic as I was

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So I thought it was legit

cunning echo
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tbh the screen video was also like, super low quality

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so you couldnt see anything

grand cobalt
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that’s a weird way to decide it 😭

smoky summit
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If it was any other character I wouldve been "this looks like ass, better be fake"

humble drum
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imagine

smoky summit
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But that classic filth? Let him get the mid

humble drum
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minecraft and among us in the same season pass

smoky summit
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3 meme crossovers in 1 pass

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Wild

grand cobalt
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saying this as if the classic characters weren’t getting better renders than the ones we actually care about fuukasidestare

smoky summit
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Only Eggmund did

wide portal
modest parcel
grand cobalt
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nyuh uh uh

wide portal
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there’s no way the last fucking slot of the season pass is just paid sega characters but technically also paramount

prime hearth
wide portal
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no way

humble drum
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it's among us

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I'm locking in

prime hearth
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you know what track we've seen teased but not seen properly

humble drum
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it's the susmobile

wide portal
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Knuckles I’m gonna rip your dreads off

prime hearth
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of all tracks in this game

silent haven
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The korone track

grand cobalt
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70% of me is saying the movie characters and 20% of me is saying something actually cool

wide portal
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stop posting about among us

grand cobalt
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10% of me says a joke character

humble drum
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impostor
crewmate
the susmobile
and the skeld

wide portal
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STOP POSTING ABOUT AMONG US

humble drum
prime hearth
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like, at all

humble drum
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sussy crossworld

prime hearth
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its just not been there

smoky summit
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This render went hard for no reason

wide portal
prime hearth
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what better way to go full loop than go back there and also movie shadow's hanging out there

grand cobalt
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If we have an actual really good last pick for the last slot then I think I can live with half of initial roster being just viacom

humble drum
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new skin

prime hearth
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I think they're playing the long game

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...granted playing the long game with the most mid reveal trailer possible for this game but still lol

grand cobalt
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They play the rest of the initial teaser and it’s shadow racing with his movie self or something

wide portal
grand cobalt
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clock it in

wide portal
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“gotta just be a homage” I thought

humble drum
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sega partnerships twice...

wide portal
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n-none with sonic!

prime hearth
wide portal
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s-so there’s n-no way

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there’s no way

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there’s no way

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there’s no way

grand cobalt
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chrome style knuckles you are being incredibly not funny right now, please stop

humble drum
cunning echo
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lmfaoo

humble drum
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it's happening

wide portal
humble drum
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it's the last slot

cunning echo
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Im actually believeing this

humble drum
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godzilla is too big

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so

grand cobalt
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sigh you gave me no choice

coarse ferry
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What happened?

humble drum
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they have like a dragon
they have monkey ball

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the blue blitch is next

grand cobalt
humble drum
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the twitter takeover

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it was a sign

coarse ferry
cunning echo
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yea, enough sonic rumors for today

coarse ferry
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Yeah I don’t think SEGA will even do that

grand cobalt
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Oh no they absolutely would

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It was just fake this time

rugged otter
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you know godzilla would be kinda cool, because a city race track in the midst of destruction by a BIG godzilla acting as an obstalce would go nuts

humble drum
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I almost forgot this convo

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it's happening

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it's real

dusty osprey
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Ew

still epoch
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LOL

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Yep its happening its gonna be the last slot

dusty osprey
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Ew

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Should have been

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I dunno

rugged otter
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me

humble drum
plush moth
humble drum
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oh my god

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I opened among us for the first time in a few months

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and

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2 months ago

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they added a

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RACING cosmicube

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they're just spelling it out at this point

plush moth
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AMONG US RACING
kill the imposter on the track

rugged otter
plush moth
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@humble drum you’re the imposter too and this imposter wants to kill you

plush moth
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I’m not the imposter

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I’m the crewmate who watches, you and Alex must have imposter 1v1

humble drum
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but there's no friendly fire

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are they hacking or something

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reported

dawn pumice
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LFGGGG

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||CLASSIC SONIC||

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O….

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Nvm…

humble drum
dawn pumice
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Truly a sad day…

coarse ferry
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Pain of leaks

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💀

hybrid hill
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it’s crazy how there has never been a legit leak posted in this fuckass thread 😭💀

grand cobalt
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keep it that way

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that's where the fun is

hybrid hill
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Sonic Rumors & Speculation 😂😂

sharp prism
wise chasm
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Just woke up

Can't believe people got unironically coconut mall'd

lunar trench
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This shit fucking sucks man

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Genuinely i hate more and more the people behind the roster making decisions

wise chasm
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I can't believe people are still getting unironically coconut mall'd after they already said it's fake

lunar trench
wise chasm
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dang

mental cargo
coarse ferry
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I don't know I find this normal lmao

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It's like that "rayman" leak with smash 4

loud zinc
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are 4 chan posts allowed here

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bc i found smth from 3 days before doi's playtest basically doubling down what he said

toxic vapor
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Yeah

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WAIT

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actually post it

loud zinc
toxic vapor
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Bro this is just someone speculating that's what Sega's gonna do

toxic vapor
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Doesn't allude to this person knowing anything?

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Duh fuck?

loud zinc
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in the space of 3 days of each other seems a bit weird tho

toxic vapor
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What the helly!

loud zinc
safe hull
loud zinc
rugged otter
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man this post feels like from 2010s

wide portal
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holy god

loud zinc
loud zinc
grand cobalt
raw osprey
wide portal
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Sega please do a fucking central next week with a shitty CG trailer so we can cross reference with 4chan posts that are actually real I HATE THIS VOID

wheat kindle
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How many leaks we've had that turned out fake in the span of a month?

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I know all of them were, just emphasis on the huge amount of fake leaks

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and this isn't even the movie franchise

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At this point I'm just ready for them, Sonic is growing so popular that fake news are also getting out of hand

still epoch
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Ok its time to know about the next game

smoky summit
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This is circumstantial

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People on 4chan say this stuff on a weekly to bi weekly basis

still epoch
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But if we get this kind of shit

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In this topic

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Im over it

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Im sooo over it jdnsjzns

prime hearth
still epoch
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I know its fake and all but when people start posting shit like this its like
Its time to crossworlds to release and the next game be announced with good enough info

smoky summit
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Also I love this notion that like "oh my god they learned nothing from Shadow Gens!!!" As if Shadow Gens isn't literally just Cyberspace with better levels, jumping and turning

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Its the same thing on the surface level so its all kinda moot to me

rugged otter
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surely they will fuck up the next game after that, or the one after that.. surely now.... please....

toxic vapor
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Like rings refilling boost, boost damaging enemies, faster homing attack

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There's little bits of polish in different areas that make it feel different fundementally from Cyber Space in a lot of ways

wise chasm
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At least 2 of those things are just reverting back to original boost formula since it's still part of Generations

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I wouldn't be surprised if those are gonna be gone again for the next mainline

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or reworked into something different

toxic vapor
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I wouldn't be surprised if the boost is gone for Frontiers 2 lmao

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But if this weird Cyber Space game is real, then like that's a weird departure lmao

modest parcel
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The legit initial Frontiers leaks were from Sonic/Sonic Team haters, that’s par for the course honestly

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Those posts just look like speculation rather than actual leaks though

still epoch
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“Sonic Frontiers: it gets worse

thick tinsel
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Honestly I imagine they will do a Sonic Central around Tokyo Game Show

smoky summit
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I think Frontiers (Rangers) was also a situation where they honestly probably played something horrendously broken lol

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Judging how the final game was barely held together to begin with

modest parcel
# still epoch “Sonic Frontiers: it gets worse

For me it’s just a matter of reading between the lines and filtering through the bias when it does happen. Like the one talking about “annoying” koco sounds; in reality that just meant more whimsy than actual irritation for us

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For stuff like “the open world is just empty” that did end up resonating with some fan criticisms, but more often than not theyre just never happy and reductively describing elements of the game that are legit positives

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So someone saying “oh it carries nothing from shad gens or frontiers” reductively might just mean a game that’s fresh enough it’s hard to associate the two in terms of what it’s made on its own terms

smoky summit
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Yeah

cunning echo
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at the same time

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ever since the playtest leaks, people been just doing playtest fake leaks now

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Im not really sure how much sonic team does actual playtest, frontiers was a different case because it was pseudo open world with rpg elements on it so they needed as much opinions and testing so it all can turn out well

modest parcel
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Yea I think that the chances of that earlier leak actually being legit are about as low as the rest

cunning echo
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but once you have all the past game testers opinions plus journalist and also you ask for fans to tell you stuff around, they surely or at least me thinks that they noted down what stuff was the most criticised and the most praised

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Idk if they would test out stuff again since they have some knowledge

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with frontiers they were also testing the waters not just for the franchise formula wise but they were also adding bunch of stuff to their engine

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I think after frontiers they are in a better position to have a clear idea in mind

prime hearth
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wasn't it stated in an interview/by kishimoto IIRC that they purposely took the risk of more playtests with frontiers to get wider feedback for the open zone, knowing it'd up the risk of leaks

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it def feels very much like a quantifiable risk they wouldn't repeat again now they're in a better position

cunning echo
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I think he mentioned something about it but I barely remember

prime hearth
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yeahh, its been too long lol

cunning echo
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Hell, even before the game came out kishimoto would go to the stores where frontiers demo was just to grab feedback lol

cunning echo
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"we normally only have have 2 times of playtesting"

prime hearth
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that sounds like the one, yeah

rocky leaf
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I don't even care about the rest of the leak or not leak or whatever, what's with this stuff on mecha sonic mark 2???

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"the most complex design" "they really want to hammer it down" what???

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treating it like george lucas going "jar jar is the key to all this"??? lol

cunning echo
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oof

rocky leaf
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it's a robot whose design was made like 30 years ago, possibly directly as a sprite and not even a drawing, whose modern iteration was done as a comics model sheet exactly because they didn't have anything else to go on so had to allow the comics artist to do their own sheet, and not even the most recent version of the robot since mk 3 is that one

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like, I'm not even saying fake, I'm saying genuinely confusing

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this feels like if there was a leak for a new mario where they're going "TATANGA... TATANGA IS THE KEY TO ALL THIS"

#

like, what????

#

this game of telephone's mangling things to such a level lmao

#

if anything here feels like it's fake appealing to fan wank, it's that

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"guys the mecha sonic that goes I'LL CRUSH YOU is totally the most important thing ever and with such a hard design to determine, he's the center of everything"

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"despite not being relevant since 1993"

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???

coarse ferry
#

I find it funny they are trying to glaze "I'll CRUSH YOU" which instead is more of metal madness saying it lmao

modest parcel
#

Wait, mk2 is referring to mecha?

coarse ferry
#

Mecha Sonic is cool don't get me wrong, but I just never get the hype around it

modest parcel
coarse ferry
#

No it is from heroes

#

That's where the line came from

modest parcel
#

He says I’ll skewer you vecort

coarse ferry
#

SMBZ just popularized it

modest parcel
#

In heroes

prime hearth
rocky leaf
coarse ferry
#

Time to find proof

#

Because I know for sure he did say it

smoky summit
#

Either way

rocky leaf
#

also isn't "I'll crush you" specifically a dub line from cooler dbz that got used in super mario bros z

rocky leaf
torn trench
#

Pretty sure that's actually where it came from

rocky leaf
#

I hadn't considered that yeah but if you tell me they're going "the most important thing is the design of the death egg mk 2 from sonic 4 episode 2" then that's even more inane

smoky summit
modest parcel
prime hearth
modest parcel
#

But it’s not popular enough

smoky summit
#

Ok now for real

coarse ferry
#

yeah it's very rare when he brings up and I get you

modest parcel
#

People know it for the cooler line

coarse ferry
#

I was only bringing it up that heroes started it then smbz popularize it

modest parcel
#

From SMBZ

smoky summit
#

How do I venture to the SiC server so I can get to the bottom of this

coarse ferry
#

I know nothing over Cooler so rip lmao

rocky leaf
#

the lines may be technically the same but I think that's a coincidence basically

coarse ferry
#

yeah

rocky leaf
#

SMBZ was definitely taking from the US DBZ dub, and then the average mecha sonic mk 2 fan is taking from SMBZ

silent haven
smoky summit
#

1:11

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Thank you comments

coarse ferry
#

man ngl that sounds less sauce than what neo metal sonic says instead 💀

smoky summit
#

The power of bit crunch

coarse ferry
#

true

rocky leaf
#

yeah there you go SMBZ uses that exact audio clip

smoky summit
coarse ferry
#

Yeah that is probably why I never get it since I know nothing over cooler lmao

smoky summit
#

Ngl those last few just sound like fanfiction to me

#

I totally missed this message yesterday lol

#

Like ok, why is Rouge even a conversation lol. Was she playable or relevant at all? Not to mention having to unironically use up your playtest session type to ask a translator to translate this to Iizuka of all things

rocky leaf
#

also hold on

#

no that's referring to MK2 as a character

#

so it's not the death egg, it's mecha sonic

#

fucking

smoky summit
#

"it's sega's fault the situatiion is messier"
Ok buddy, sega is telling you it's sega's fault? Lmao

rocky leaf
#

mecha sonic mk 2 is too detailed for concept art

#

what does that even mean

smoky summit
#

Oh no yeah I was messing around lol

#

Its probably just some SiC bubble where they refer to Mecha like that

rocky leaf
#

I don't even say this guy doesn't have a legit source or legit play tested the game or something but like, it's clear that whatever he was told is being distorted through the game of telephone to such a degree it's useless to pay attention to it lmao

prime hearth
torn trench
#

It's very clearly about how Sonic Team is developing Mortal Kombat 2

prime hearth
#

each of the dev team can only imagine one part of mk2 at a time, one unlucky member saw two limbs at once and he’s been in intensive care for a week now

coarse ferry
#

Saying "too detailed for a concept art" does not understand how robots/machines work 💀

smoky summit
#

Like genuinely, if it's legit then all I glean from this is that they played boost stages that are like Frontiers Cyberspace and not Shadow Generations (even though to 99% of people the fundamentals there are the same and it's the controls and level design adjustments)

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Everything else is just useless

modest parcel
#

Wait how the fuck did this guy even get pitched as a real leaker 💀

smoky summit
modest parcel
#

There are so many messages of him holding Iizuka up on a pedestal as well

smoky summit
#

My Zippo-clone senses are tingling

modest parcel
#

"Guys I finally got to talk to HIM!"

smoky summit
#

Can someone remind me what community stuff this person is involved with again?

pulsar horizon
#

What the heck is happening here

rocky leaf
#

weird leaks

modest parcel
#

Like brother

rocky leaf
#

calling them weird instead of fake because they're so bizarrely put that I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if they're "real"

#

as in, there's a core of truth here and the guy did get to playtest or whatever

wide portal
pulsar horizon
rocky leaf
#

but then talked about it in such a stupid way that it's useless as info lol

modest parcel
wide portal
# modest parcel Like brother

🤓 this screenshot isn’t even contextually appropriate because this is about jax realizing that his true emotions are slipping out as he tries to repress them again

modest parcel
#

The subject of Rouge and Iizuka somehow holding weight in that department was part of his message history before all of this

pulsar horizon
modest parcel
#

Then lo and behold he somehow talks to him, and confirms that yes, Iizuka Cares™

smoky summit
#

Like idk, you have to keep in mind that this person has been talking about this playtest for over 2 weeks in private circles.

modest parcel
#

Like 😭

rocky leaf
#

like, I'm talking "the next game is not named sonic frontiers 2" (which is fairly believable, sonic team don't usually do [name]2) being real and then somehow it becoming "frontiers 2 was dropped" when it's being retold in such a stupid way

smoky summit
#

While I don't put it past any closet Sonic fan to make up a whole ploy

#

It's a little too much to maintain

rocky leaf
#

that's the tier I'm putting it at of "this is probably real in some way but so unreliably told it's useless"

pulsar horizon
wide portal
#

like he happens to know about the boob discourse and the art document and all this bullshit

#

how convenient

smoky summit
#

Just let it be Fang lol

#

Let it be

pulsar horizon
#

I don’t think I wanna know

smoky summit
#

But yeah it's all super irrelevant stuff

modest parcel
#

Iizuka is not having candid discussions with random playtesters about how Rouge's design is being destroyed by other internal forces

#

Iizuka

#

The PR man himself

wide portal
smoky summit
#

It's also possible that

rocky leaf
#

like, it's reminding me of zippo going "sonic advance 4" is coming when he probably heard someone vaguely talk about "oh yeah new 2d sonic game being made" when it meant superstars

wide portal
#

at least make like a fucking burner or something

rocky leaf
#

a core of truth covered in a whole lot of assumption and misunderstanding

modest parcel
cunning echo
wide portal
#

if all this shit IS real and he was part of a REAL playtest then his account’s absolutely fucked, surely he’s thought about this

smoky summit
#

They did get an email from sega but it ended up being a dud, but they were too deep into things and hyped it up too much that they felt they had to make something up

modest parcel
#

In Zippo hearing 2D game from someone then making up a grander leak

rocky leaf
#

yeah, and what I'm saying is that I can see these dumbass leaks also being the end point of a really absurd game of telephone lol

modest parcel
#

But he's saying he's the one doing all this

#

Playing the game, talking to iizuka etc

modest parcel
#

Shook the man's hand

wide portal
#

damn anyways

cunning echo
rocky leaf
#

the model would be made from sketch concept art to begin lmao- not to mention the model sheet does exist, it had to be made for scrapnik island, so it exists now lol

#

that's what I'm saying, it's like

smoky summit
#

Zippo made so much shit up behind the scenes it was hilarious 😭

#

Like knowing people in Japan, knowing people on LinkedIn

#

You name it

rocky leaf
#

he saw that the scrapnik mecha model sheet is very detailed and somehow that became "blueprints exist for mk2 but also are so complex that no concept art exists" or whatever lol

modest parcel
#

Im still mad about the monster hunter comparisons

#

Got my hopes up

#

:[

coarse ferry
#

Meanwhile he is getting me hopes up over fucking Phantasy Star V and PSO Reboot

#

And I just skedaddled

rocky leaf
#

or saw that it was very detailed and somehow that became "sonic team is obcessed with setting this down" because he assumed it was sonic team doing it and not us when we did it for scrapnik lol

coarse ferry
#

Yeah I just find it so silly over mecha sonic when IDW clearly existed to deny that issue lmao

rocky leaf
#

one grain of truth getting spun into a whole yarn of nonsense

cunning echo
#

Oh my

smoky summit
#

Also idk, the whole dynamic that this could be real and them breaking nda so casually like this while also being hella vague

#

It just feels so attention seeking

runic lichen
#

this feels like a bunch of random details trying to be spun into a "leak"

rocky leaf
#

oh that's also part of it, I'm fully expecting that this is real and dude's just breaking NDA but trying to be coy about it and also not fully getting what he's breaking NDA about and so it becomes even more nonsense lol

wide portal
rocky leaf
#

point being, in the end, I think he isn't lying per se, but is being such an unreliable narrator that paying attention to what he's saying is useless

#

thus, not worth paying attention to the leaks

modest parcel
#

I don't think it's as much attention seeking as much as someone like me coming in saying "guys I just spoke to maekawa and he CONFIRMED a cancelled Sonic game and also intended for Omega's buttcheek to have a birthmark"

coarse ferry
#

It's honestly why to me heroes leak is the final nail in the coffin where it's not worth trusting too much over leakers

smoky summit
round rain
#

Wrong reply

modest parcel
#

Just conforming to previous conversations and facinations of my own accord

rocky leaf
#

in five years maybe some of this will make sense in hindsight but for now it's just playing nostradamus

wide portal
smoky summit
smoky summit
#

True true

rocky leaf
#

min failed at embedding, everyone point and laugh

runic lichen
#

sigh

cunning echo
#

wut

rocky leaf
#

anyway I haven't been paying attention, what other stupid nonsense has been going on in the rumour mill

smoky summit
#

I got u

rocky leaf
#

people still thinking sonic underground is canon now or something?

smoky summit
#

1 sec

grand cobalt
#

classic sonic in crossworlds happened yesterday

#

that one was really funny

runic lichen
#

it was fake

cunning echo
#

but it was funny

grand cobalt
#

yeah they used the fucking uhh

#

coconut mall car 😭

smoky summit
#

I believe these are real because no fake leaker would use AI this blatantly! @rocky leaf

rocky leaf
#

oh I've been seeing slashy post those and with that exact argument lmao

smoky summit
#

Also apparently someone in HE2 server saw these before Sonic Blitz

#

In a group call

cunning echo
loud zinc
smoky summit
#

Yeah I mentioned that a few days ago

rocky leaf
#

I could kinda believe that one, the AI slop use is just what I'd expect from marketing or whatever

smoky summit
#

Sabrina something a marketing person at sega

rocky leaf
#

it's the sonic smackdown bit that's got me like "come on" lol

loud zinc
#

The person who hosted that PowerPoint

grand cobalt
#

you tracked their linkedin down?

cunning echo
#

😭

smoky summit
#

But yeah, its a combo of

  • Blatant AI use
  • Zoom call with camera on
  • Sabrina person
  • Using Blitz concept art despite the game already being out
grand cobalt
#

oh my fucking god

smoky summit
#

I think that last point is also a big tell

loud zinc
smoky summit
#

If someone faking this wanted to have "legitimatecy", they would just use the renders that were already out

wide portal
#

still

rocky leaf
#

eh dunno, I guess it's probably legit

#

I guess marketing could just have grabbed the name of a popular fangame to illustrate a concept

smoky summit
#

There's also another frontiers 2 slide I don't have on hand

rocky leaf
#

the description of the game perhaps more notably seems to be of a platform fighter instead

#

which would fit the era of every company wanting to do one

grand cobalt
#

if it's legit i better hope to god they don't pick concept c

wide portal
#

pretending to play along with this, I think the legit slideshow survey had a bunch of fake ones sprinkled in; obviously the weird mmo multiverse adventure with classic sonic didn’t survive to see the light of day

smoky summit
#

As usual 😭

wide portal
#

so concept c could be another decoy

#

if of course this “concept c” of this slideshow was real of course which it isn’t

smoky summit
#

Yeah, that's probably very likely all things considered

rocky leaf
#

we know there was a weirdass concepts slide show before frontiers and yeah it mentioned some sort of mmo with new characters (whose names seemed to just be made up on the spot) but iirc it kinda seemed to match superstars multiplayer? dunno

smoky summit
#

And if we are to believe this doi person, they didn't show them Frontiers 2 slides lol

rocky leaf
#

things are weird internally and ideas sometimes stick around for years and morph

grand cobalt
#

what were the rest of the old concepts again?

smoky summit
#

Nah it was a concept to mislead leakers

cunning echo
smoky summit
#

Apparently it's common tactic

cunning echo
#

like genshi

rocky leaf
#

it was like, one concept is very clearly an early frontiers, the other was like "sonic and his friends in a multiplayer game with new characters bongo and bombo and bubba" or whatever

grand cobalt
#

i can't wait for concept k to come out

#

yeah its this one 😭

smoky summit
#

That same Sonic Frontiers slides leaker also had a Mario Odyssey 2 slide iirc

#

Also a dud

rocky leaf
#

bobo, cosmos and spinner somehow became "bongo bombo and bubba" in my memory lmao

grand cobalt
#

wait a minute

rocky leaf
#

if that isn't an example of why leaks can both be real and bullshit, I dunno what is

smoky summit
grand cobalt
#

gadgets... weekly rankings.... skins....

smoky summit
#

They do not care about the things we care about at all 💀

smoky summit
#

Totally different world

#

Bobo Cosmos and Spinner

grand cobalt
#

i think using stupid ass fan renders in official presentations is infinitely funnier than ai

smoky summit
#

Creative, if not else

rocky leaf
#

I mean, it's the same thing basically

#

it's just a shortcut of "ok the people this is being shown to are probably absolute morons so it needs SOME visual of SOME kind"

#

back then that meant "google image something" now it's "ok grok give me bobo cosmos and spinner"

grand cobalt
#

right, but the former just gives this feeling of "what the fuck are you doing here"

smoky summit
#

It's kinda funny cause like, all these slides are very slap-dashed together, but the handwritten Frontiers era ones were like... Goofy and whimsical and out there, and then these new AI ones are the most out of the box AI prompt responses ever 😭

cunning echo
#

they prolly do these slides like a day before so

grand cobalt
smoky summit
#

Also damn, wouldn't this prove that they were using AI for the concepts of these games 😭

rocky leaf
#

wasn't the datamined text from blitz pretty clearly chat gpt

smoky summit
#

I did not see that, sounds hilarious thi

#

Tho

rocky leaf
#

tbh I'd say that's probably the reason why you had fucking like

grand cobalt
#

last i heard it was just bios ripped from the sonic wiki so gpt would 100% do that

rocky leaf
#

wes weasley or whatever listed as a character they want to do

#

they probably went "chat gpt list me sonic characters for a big roster in a card game" and it went and looked at the wiki and went "ok here's sonic characters:

  • has bean"
smoky summit
#

Chatgpt knows its cartoon lore

cunning echo
#

thats why they had sally accorn and such lmao

rocky leaf
#

they put it in the game and start working on it and only after a bit does sega look at it and go "what the FUCK"

cunning echo
#

so they probably made chatgpt do the json for it

dawn pumice
#

Ya

#

I’m still hesitant on the PowerPoint leak

#

Cuz like the only thing that’s telling me it’s such bs is we don’t know the date

torn trench
prime hearth
#

non-zero chance blitz will not survive like a year given how rovio goes through projects lmao

dawn pumice
plush moth
torn trench
grand cobalt
#

i gotta ask

#

do most legit leaks just come from powerpoint slides 😭

hybrid hill
#

what is rumoring in the Sonic rumors channel

torn trench
#

My pants

hybrid hill
#

heh….

grand cobalt
#

because i remember this one

#

give me a ring

cunning echo
#

that one was real

grand cobalt
#

rings: 300032

cunning echo
#

but it was an oopsie

grand cobalt
cunning echo
#

is funny how superstars dlc was there but nothing really came out

#

the game really fumbled

grand cobalt
#

not true

#

ihop amy !

torn trench
#

"new mobile game"...

plush moth
smoky summit
rocky leaf
cunning echo
cunning echo
#

they really gatekept superstars plus

rocky leaf
#

I don't remember it in detail now but I remember knowing some extra stuff behind the scenes at the time that contradicted that one

grand cobalt
#

dont worry

smoky summit
plush moth
#

The fact that you tell me not to worry only makes me worry more

smoky summit
#

Which ironically I've come to realize that mistakes make something more likely to be real

#

Because fake leaker fans are insanely detail oriented lmao

grand cobalt
torn trench
grand cobalt
#

man am i too deep into this sonic shit why am i sitting here listening to advice for sifting out leaks

hybrid hill
#

Anyways

plush moth
#

hi spectre

cunning echo
#

lool

hybrid hill
#

That AI terrain changing presentation?

#

Fake as FUCK!!!

smoky summit
#

That would be hella dope tho

cunning echo
#

lmfao

grand cobalt
#

from a gameplay standpoint probably yeah

smoky summit
#

But ywah it's 100% fake kishimogoat kishimogoat kishimogoat

grand cobalt
#

but after forces and frontiers

smoky summit
#

10000% gorm

grand cobalt
#

no more evil digital shit

hybrid hill
#

fool me once

#

🙊

dawn pumice
#

Imma believe it cuz I want a fighting game

plush moth
smoky summit
#

Imagine this doi person played the most sublime Sonic thing ever but was too confused about semantics to realize the greatness 😭

cunning echo
#

tbh, I remember when the concept k and stuff came out there were other concepts too no?

#

were like 3 too

dawn pumice
#

Lemme believe in the fighting game cope

cunning echo
#

but only one really came to be real which is frontiers

plush moth
#

don’t lose hope fiery there will be a fighting game

hybrid hill
#

I’ve seen folks insisting on that leak being real because it had someone’s name being streamed via Zoom

plush moth
#

And you are going to be ruler of it

hybrid hill
#

That’s too much attention to detail in my leak #tbh

smoky summit
#

Cause, you know, I bet you most people who playtested Shadow Gens and then were asked on it were probably thinking "it's more of the same, looks like Cyberspace"

wide portal
cunning echo
#

so maybe is not that the frontiers 2 slides are fake is prolly just that the only real game there was just Blitz while the other 2 were just meant for tester reaction

smoky summit
loud zinc
wide portal
#

one of the biggest stars currently is named Sabrina

smoky summit
#

Just look up sega of america sabrina linkedin

hybrid hill
wide portal
cunning echo
#

plug

smoky summit
cunning echo
#

💀

grand cobalt
#

so wait

#

sabrina, the name on the powerpoint

#

on linkedin

cunning echo
#

Plug they work for a big media company ofc they need to have linkedIn

hybrid hill
#

its fake lil bro….

grand cobalt
#

there's a sabrina under marketing for sega

#

is that right

loud zinc
hybrid hill
#

there is no tooth fairy

smoky summit
#

Only 1 employee with the name Sabrina at sega pops up when you google. Conveniently works in marketing and things like that

hybrid hill
#

there is no playtest

wide portal
hybrid hill
#

and there is NO SABRINA

grand cobalt
cunning echo
smoky summit
#

There could be others named Sabrina, but this person is just conveniently there and fits the bill

loud zinc
grand cobalt
#

i have a cousin at sega

#

named sabrina

wide portal
#

the point I’m making is that there’s no proof proving that these two Sabrinas are the same person

grand cobalt
#

she's a witch

pulsar horizon
plush moth
#

YES

hybrid hill
#

again

smoky summit
#

Interesting

wide portal
plush moth
#

I KNEW SOMEONE WOULD MAKE THE SABRINA WITCH JOKE

wide portal
#

I think she hangs out with my second cousin twice removed named Buffy

#

her job is

hybrid hill
#

so much convo for a fake leak 😭

cunning echo
plush moth
#

Fizz I salute you

cunning echo
#

Tobe

#

😭

wide portal
#

very unconventional

smoky summit
wide portal
#

(I haven’t watched Buffy the vampire slayer)

loud zinc
grand cobalt
grand cobalt
#

thats true

#

people change

hybrid hill
loud zinc
wide portal
#

also classic sonic in crossworlds is like a given considering Sega anyway and I wasn’t 100% on the render

cunning echo
plush moth
#

what would they do

wide portal
#

my appendix will burst before sega gives up on classic sonic

smoky summit
# loud zinc

Ok I was like somehow under the impression that this person's age had any relevance...

No, this person was just not able to keep their thoughts to themselves 😭

loud zinc
#

60 FPS being considered revolutionary by SEGA considering they act like no higher frame rates exist on PC is such a sega thing too

smoky summit
#

But yeah no, seems legit

plush moth
loud zinc
cunning echo
#

pc ver

loud zinc
#

no way

cunning echo
#

Yes way

cunning echo
#

go download it

cunning echo
dawn pumice
#

Lemme believe in the fighting leak

plush moth
grand cobalt
#

doesn't shadow gens support 120

rugged otter
#

we talking about the genai leak

cunning echo
grand cobalt
#

wtf !

smoky summit
#

Still I genuinely wonder how tf people find these focus tests

#

Like who do you even talk to

cunning echo
#

I think it doesnt cuz I remember bobnik always saying that forces had 120 and ulimited fps 😭

dawn pumice
#

And they got lucky enough for sonic

loud zinc
cunning echo
dawn pumice
#

Granted I got invited to a sega playtest a couple months ago 😭

wide portal
#

fiery what’s the next sonic game gonna be about

smoky summit
#

Insights lab is booty cheeks

dawn pumice
#

Couldn’t go cuz I was at college 😭 😭 😭

smoky summit
#

What websites

grand cobalt
wide portal
#

quickly before I boil everybody

dawn pumice
#

from what I could remember it was NYC

plush moth
cunning echo
#

they only do playtests for people that live in south california

smoky summit
#

💀

#

Apparently this doi guy's thing was in Atlanta

cunning echo
smoky summit
#

Which btw I found no inclination of anything sega in Atlanta

#

So idk

smoky summit
dusty osprey
#

that's quite the statement

dawn pumice
#

I got invited down to NYC for a sega playtest

cunning echo
#

idk, thats what their websites says

smoky summit
#

Unreliable I say!

dawn pumice
#

granted

#

It might’ve been for Virtua Fighter

coarse ferry
#

I won't be surprised if so

smoky summit
#

Was it within your vicinity?

cunning echo
#

maybe it depends if there are events?

#

idk

dawn pumice
#

At my home ya, but I was at college at the time

smoky summit
#

Also like... What if someone has work or something 😭

coarse ferry
#

But I do wonder fiery during SEGA playtest, what other games you think follow the similar position as VF?

dawn pumice
#

was about to take a train down there for the day but I had finals a week before during that time

#

I think they did it based on ur personal preferences

#

I think I had Sonic, VF, and Jet Set

smoky summit
#

Ayo boss, sorry I gotta playtest this Sonic game can't make it today!

cunning echo
#

fiery could've gained 200 bucks from playtesting jet set radio 💔

wide portal
#

we could’ve had our own Starman

rugged otter
#

fiery could've gained 2000 bucks from playtesting jet set radio and leaking the details to me personally 💔

smoky summit
#

200

rugged otter
#

I would've paid back in 1800...

dawn pumice
#

Actually hold on

#

It was rumble

#

Looked at the address and it was the same as the one given to me

smoky summit
#

Puh

#

You didn't miss much 😭

dawn pumice
#

Actually nvm

torn trench
#

MAKE UP YOUR MIND

rugged otter
#

a fumble was dodged

cunning echo
#

bro has lost it

#

😭

dawn pumice
#

😭

torn trench
#

I'm getting sick of you omg😭

dawn pumice
#

Sorry i thought it said it was for Rovio but it was just a private event venue

hybrid hill
#

💀