#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation
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having done my best to gleam the chat after a day out and about: I’m like 99% sure the person is just fully bullshitting for attention lol
couldnae give a fuck what they’re on about, I met baby yoda mate
he swears more in real life than on the telly
I still question why they beat him
He’s literally just laying there minding his business
Can someone ask the playtester fellow if there were a lot of people at the playtest session?
Thank you in advance
Will guarantee you prosperity for 5 hours
tobias it’s over
And thank God so.
I tapped out after learning it was within the SiC fallout bunker shelter server
It's not over till it's over
it’s over
They wouldn't do that
When sonic team finds a formula they want build games off they try to squeeze it as much as they can
Sometimes they might make one or two changes to add to a game gimmick (heroes, shadow the hedgehog) but overall they stick with that until they feel like it's time to do something fresh
The only time they went backwards was with forces because of the game being made for the quick money recovery for Sega due to boom
Also shadow gens despite being more linear kind of game still uses their new formula structure
Yeah that's what I said 😭
k
Wdym k 😭
guys I got a delicious leak for you all, in essence I met yuji naka and he told me he doesn't work at sega since 2006, the series is cooooooooked
enjoy this out of context tiny image
In essence
why are you in Japanese prison
long story.
||Classic Sonic in crossworlds||
YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HELL YES
WHERE IS HE
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oh it looks kinda
Dawg
bad lmao 😭
Why did we ask for him again
I mean, there’s the car !
the render isn't great i'm just glad he got the car, though I'd like to see it at another angle
maybe its the angle throwing it off but
doesn't look as good as the apple arcade one tbh
hmmmm then again..
So uhhh
Not even close
guess ||freeze got what he wanted||
yeah, need another shot but it's not looking right now i think about it..
how long ago was this
||it's funny how it looks kinda not too far from pac-man's car 😭
guess these are the costs of modifying designs to fit the modular nature of them for customization ||
Just a few minutes ago
and how much traction did the post get
Geno got the capture but the website updated so it is no longer there

alright then
anyone got the banner before this (ie the one with the pac trailer)
Hes basically a non official sonic embassador in brazil
I wanna compare compositions
it's the japanese website I believe
I got it wrong and its the Japanese one, not the Korean one
Why is his car so lame looking
isn’t the car specifically the one yall wanted 😭
hate to say it but I'm looking closer at this and the more I look, the faker it seems sadly
is the one from the apple arcade
Nvm I think this is fake
Id this is fake geno got duped
so who made it
No idea
every other one of these banners they've moved characters around, this one he's just
can’t believe this henry
chucked at the back and the motion blur isn't consistent
I trusted you
What
that and he hasn't got the flashes of lens flare light on him
Hmmm
chrome inspect element strikes again
oh true, the lens flare
Man if geno is lying hes actually fucked
||I'M CLASSICING IT||
This guy has immense credibility in brazil
||I'M SO RETRO||
at a guess it's the age old "someone sent this to me and I wanted to post it asap without checking it was legit first" rather than like, lying proper
wasn’t this on a fadel stream what happened to that
||now add classic knuckles or else||
anyways what I was gonna say earlier is that what are the odds of the page getting updated for just a few minutes, a guy happening to catch the page within that amount of time, and it refreshing without it just a few minutes later
o yea fadel would absolutely be the person to get hype without checking LMAO
that answers that
well then
guess this was a false alarm explains why even if it's current iteration of classic that the render looks so off
it’s not a sage situation where her red variant was up for literally a day and put on blast by twitter before being noticed and swapped out

boring ass leaks getting debunked after 10 minutes im going back to bed…….
goodnight crossworlds streams tomorrow
Fucking ugly betch
now where's this car
The way the side of the car facing away from our screens just bulges upwards is baffling me
Like damn why are they looking away like that
Roger Rabbit esque bashful car
so this one
Fucking 1920s car
I'd be down for it if I didn't have my hopes up
when is breeze the sentient car returning (idw doesn't count)
I suppose geno_td will probably have those tweets deleted and make a post in a few hours mayhaps
I forget amy has a sentient car
does sonic r happen before or after drift
cause either this car magically came to life later
or this is the dead husk
and it either changed to red or blue
in whichever order
This isn't my next gen leaking experience
well
twice both drifts
and in the classic sonic 30th anniversary idw special
so three times
Probbly
tbf, the only thing that makes it look fake is that the car doesnt have a light coming from it like the others
it looks a little off but it could be 50/50
idk why they’d randomly update the website like this unless a classic reveal is happening sometime soon and this was just on accident
like idk. it could be fake but at the same time why
yeah exactly
Peter_griffin.gif
also can you load images into a modified inspect element??? that’s the thing tripping me up about that video
oh wait his quills are super fucking short
that makes it feel like 80% more credible 😭
The perspective would have to be like
is also a really specific render
2 eyes
So when do you think he’ll be announced
My main question is where's the blur effect
lowkey I’m thinking about what Fadel said earlier about a sonic event that he wasn’t supposed to mention
could it be….
getting the 3 quill silhouette right on one version of sonic and fucking it up on the other one is a funny thing to think about
Cause like we don’t really have a lot of the free characters yet we have every paid DLC character so far
cen—cen—
like how is the right fender TWICE AS LONG as the left fender???
also yeah Jane brought this up, but there’s absolutely no effects on him when everyone else has one
I just don't get it
that that’s blood that’s blood on my shirt
at the same time, why whould someone fake classic ngl
??
cause funny
I was gonna ask this but then I realized it’s a very stupid question (no offense ofc)
like why does anybody fake anything
I would fake infinite just because
any attention is good attention, and people have been speculating about classic for a while
I feel like classic sonic has been one of the most speculated sega/sonic characters is he not
it seems real which gives it more credence to trick people
especially since we thought pac man’s car was HIS car for a while
Yeah but like henry said, the guy from the tweet is almost like a sega embassador so is weird for him to fake something like that
obviously classic has a 99% shot as is too
wait
when did we see his car
GAHHHHHHH THATS TRUE TOO
I DONT KNOW WHAT TO THINK
To me is just oddly specific because they could've add another character like Trip for example
Classic making it in is an inevitably I have no doubts about that, but I don’t think this is it
I think its possible geno got duped
except that would be a massive red flag because there’s no evidence to sustain trip
Yeah I was thinking that, maybe they received the footage from someone
He is very gungho about just jumping into sometjing
well
bridge island ig

yeah but that seems to be like baseline asset reuse/classic rep
This is the biggest thing against it’s credibility imo, also the characters aren’t even spaced out to make room for him like the other banner variants so he’s just forced into the top corner 😭
this mural is running out of fucking space dawg
oh yeah that placement makes no fucking sense
put him next to his older self
they’ll just make the backdrop bigger and the characters smaller
It already happened between the first and the one with pac man
Oh seems it is fake
OH CLASSIC SONIC IS LITERALLY A PNG OVER THE OTHERS
a friend of fadel told him that it is a custom-made render
yeah okay it’s wraps
Oh lmao 💀
this is where they just start to zoom out over time 
Welp
this looks like prime space for another character straight off the bat lol
yeah why would they
I KNEW MY GOAT WOULDN'T BE A FRAUD LIKE THAT
as someone who wouldn't mind classic at all
if you're gonna make a fake, why not something REALLY wild
we have 2 of these
and another one is owned by sega
I wonder why Werehog and the prime characters aren’t in the banner
You can never kill a legend
@still epoch
COCONUT MALL CAR
so that’s his ingame superstars model they were using
THE CAR IS FROM COCONUT MALL THATS REALLY FUNNY
i'm glad sega wasn't actually silly enough to fuck up the car after all
Not the cocunot car bruh 😭
please leave a idea in the comments to featured
LCIHCCHYG
we got coconut malled HJGDSABJGSDA
THE PERSPECTIVE WAS FUCKED THEN OH MY GOD
henry 😭
Lmaooooo
Geno betrayed us 💔
Dude the chances of him clarifying that as SOON as I ask about it 💀
NEVER believe in people guys, that’s rule one
i dont trust anyone here
Yea figured
a
wait
A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT????
This was a funny few minutes
Frontir 2 one?
anyways see you guys when classic is announced as a free racer in a few months
You know that this is very possible right
yeah
If among us is the last season pass racer none of you will be alive to witness my wrath
Straight up faking my shit
its so funny that we've had two fake leaks today and only one has been good
Godzilla would to crazy
neither for this pass, maybe amogus for a future pass tho
hear me out
the turtles are 4 characters
so the the last spot is crewmate and impostor
Oh right I keep forgetting Crossworlds is 100% going to keep getting supported if it does well past the first year
my money for the last slot's on movie sonic & shadow tbh
The quality of the render was lowkey poor but I kinda just attributed it to whoever was making it was just as tired of classic as I was

So I thought it was legit
that’s a weird way to decide it 😭
If it was any other character I wouldve been "this looks like ass, better be fake"
imagine
But that classic filth? Let him get the mid
minecraft and among us in the same season pass
saying this as if the classic characters weren’t getting better renders than the ones we actually care about 
Only Eggmund did
I genuinely believe they’re gonna be free characters
nyuh uh uh
there’s no way the last fucking slot of the season pass is just paid sega characters but technically also paramount
v popular, higher movie licensing budget needed that'd necessitate putting it in the pass as something paid over a free update, but most importantly in an effort to go full circle:
no way
you know what track we've seen teased but not seen properly
it's the susmobile
Knuckles I’m gonna rip your dreads off
of all tracks in this game
The korone track
70% of me is saying the movie characters and 20% of me is saying something actually cool
stop posting about among us
10% of me says a joke character
impostor
crewmate
the susmobile
and the skeld
STOP POSTING ABOUT AMONG US
we haven't seen the hyper-realistic city from the teaser trailer yet chat
like, at all
sussy crossworld
its just not been there
This render went hard for no reason
what am I willing to bet that this was not a real stage and they just put it together for the trailer
what better way to go full loop than go back there and also movie shadow's hanging out there
If we have an actual really good last pick for the last slot then I think I can live with half of initial roster being just viacom
new skin
could've said the same about the riders board on the garage wall, and yet that was revealed to be intentional teasing 
I think they're playing the long game
...granted playing the long game with the most mid reveal trailer possible for this game but still lol
They play the rest of the initial teaser and it’s shadow racing with his movie self or something
killing myself in front of the Marza animators to forever change the trajectory of their lives
clock it in
“gotta just be a homage” I thought
n-none with sonic!
yup I could see that, lock it in
chrome style knuckles you are being incredibly not funny right now, please stop
you say that as if spongebob has collabed before
it's not a joke
lmfaoo
it's happening
it's the last slot
Im actually believeing this
sigh you gave me no choice
What happened?
fake classic sonic leak
Ah figures
yea, enough sonic rumors for today
Yeah I don’t think SEGA will even do that
you know godzilla would be kinda cool, because a city race track in the midst of destruction by a BIG godzilla acting as an obstalce would go nuts
Ew
me
If we get Among Us and the trick noise isn’t the vent opening I’m gonna find mr sonic and change his game
oh my god
I opened among us for the first time in a few months
and
2 months ago
they added a
RACING cosmicube
they're just spelling it out at this point
AMONG US RACING
kill the imposter on the track
keep your walls in check.
@humble drum you’re the imposter too and this imposter wants to kill you
they're teaming...
reported
I’m not the imposter
I’m the crewmate who watches, you and Alex must have imposter 1v1
Truly a sad day…
it’s crazy how there has never been a legit leak posted in this fuckass thread 😭💀
Sonic Rumors & Speculation 😂😂
*Shirogumi animators 
Also, is this not just Radical Highway? Maybe it doesn't really look like it but I just figured since they were leaning on the Year of Shadow for this teaser.
soon ther will be
Just woke up
Can't believe people got unironically coconut mall'd
This shit fucking sucks man
Genuinely i hate more and more the people behind the roster making decisions
I can't believe people are still getting unironically coconut mall'd after they already said it's fake

Nah you just got double coconut mall'd
dang
I need to continue reading from here but 😭😭😭😭😭😭
are 4 chan posts allowed here
bc i found smth from 3 days before doi's playtest basically doubling down what he said
Bro this is just someone speculating that's what Sega's gonna do
in the space of 3 days of each other seems a bit weird tho
What the helly!
what the helley berry
People on twitter make these posts like every day due to their pessimistic doomer mindset
tbf i dont see bc im not on sonic twt
man this post feels like from 2010s
i only shared bc of this, and are basically saying the same thing
we saw that first one

forget about that one
Sega please do a fucking central next week with a shitty CG trailer so we can cross reference with 4chan posts that are actually real I HATE THIS VOID
How many leaks we've had that turned out fake in the span of a month?
I know all of them were, just emphasis on the huge amount of fake leaks
and this isn't even the movie franchise
At this point I'm just ready for them, Sonic is growing so popular that fake news are also getting out of hand
Ok its time to know about the next game
This is circumstantial
People on 4chan say this stuff on a weekly to bi weekly basis
But if we get this kind of shit
In this topic
Im over it
Im sooo over it jdnsjzns
Good news! It’s called Sonic Racing Crossworlds and it’s out in five weeks or so
I know its fake and all but when people start posting shit like this its like
Its time to crossworlds to release and the next game be announced with good enough info
Also I love this notion that like "oh my god they learned nothing from Shadow Gens!!!" As if Shadow Gens isn't literally just Cyberspace with better levels, jumping and turning
Its the same thing on the surface level so its all kinda moot to me
surely they will fuck up the next game after that, or the one after that.. surely now.... please....
Shadow Gens did like little differences in nuances that become a bigger thing
Like rings refilling boost, boost damaging enemies, faster homing attack
There's little bits of polish in different areas that make it feel different fundementally from Cyber Space in a lot of ways
At least 2 of those things are just reverting back to original boost formula since it's still part of Generations
I wouldn't be surprised if those are gonna be gone again for the next mainline
or reworked into something different
I wouldn't be surprised if the boost is gone for Frontiers 2 lmao
But if this weird Cyber Space game is real, then like that's a weird departure lmao
The legit initial Frontiers leaks were from Sonic/Sonic Team haters, that’s par for the course honestly
Those posts just look like speculation rather than actual leaks though
“Sonic Frontiers: it gets worse
Honestly I imagine they will do a Sonic Central around Tokyo Game Show
I think Frontiers (Rangers) was also a situation where they honestly probably played something horrendously broken lol
Judging how the final game was barely held together to begin with
For me it’s just a matter of reading between the lines and filtering through the bias when it does happen. Like the one talking about “annoying” koco sounds; in reality that just meant more whimsy than actual irritation for us
For stuff like “the open world is just empty” that did end up resonating with some fan criticisms, but more often than not theyre just never happy and reductively describing elements of the game that are legit positives
So someone saying “oh it carries nothing from shad gens or frontiers” reductively might just mean a game that’s fresh enough it’s hard to associate the two in terms of what it’s made on its own terms
Yeah
at the same time
ever since the playtest leaks, people been just doing playtest fake leaks now
Im not really sure how much sonic team does actual playtest, frontiers was a different case because it was pseudo open world with rpg elements on it so they needed as much opinions and testing so it all can turn out well
Yea I think that the chances of that earlier leak actually being legit are about as low as the rest
but once you have all the past game testers opinions plus journalist and also you ask for fans to tell you stuff around, they surely or at least me thinks that they noted down what stuff was the most criticised and the most praised
Idk if they would test out stuff again since they have some knowledge
with frontiers they were also testing the waters not just for the franchise formula wise but they were also adding bunch of stuff to their engine
I think after frontiers they are in a better position to have a clear idea in mind
wasn't it stated in an interview/by kishimoto IIRC that they purposely took the risk of more playtests with frontiers to get wider feedback for the open zone, knowing it'd up the risk of leaks
it def feels very much like a quantifiable risk they wouldn't repeat again now they're in a better position
I think he mentioned something about it but I barely remember
yeahh, its been too long lol
Hell, even before the game came out kishimoto would go to the stores where frontiers demo was just to grab feedback lol
think this one should be
"we normally only have have 2 times of playtesting"
that sounds like the one, yeah
I don't even care about the rest of the leak or not leak or whatever, what's with this stuff on mecha sonic mark 2???
"the most complex design" "they really want to hammer it down" what???
treating it like george lucas going "jar jar is the key to all this"??? lol
oof
it's a robot whose design was made like 30 years ago, possibly directly as a sprite and not even a drawing, whose modern iteration was done as a comics model sheet exactly because they didn't have anything else to go on so had to allow the comics artist to do their own sheet, and not even the most recent version of the robot since mk 3 is that one
like, I'm not even saying fake, I'm saying genuinely confusing
this feels like if there was a leak for a new mario where they're going "TATANGA... TATANGA IS THE KEY TO ALL THIS"
like, what????
this game of telephone's mangling things to such a level lmao
if anything here feels like it's fake appealing to fan wank, it's that
"guys the mecha sonic that goes I'LL CRUSH YOU is totally the most important thing ever and with such a hard design to determine, he's the center of everything"
"despite not being relevant since 1993"
???
I find it funny they are trying to glaze "I'll CRUSH YOU" which instead is more of metal madness saying it lmao
Wait, mk2 is referring to mecha?
Mecha Sonic is cool don't get me wrong, but I just never get the hype around it
No that’s Super Mario Bros Z
He says I’ll skewer you 
SMBZ just popularized it
In heroes
this is how even the most "authentic" of fake leaks falls apart easily, they put in details only terminally online sonic fans like us would know and no normal human would lol
what else is it?
Same diff
also isn't "I'll crush you" specifically a dub line from cooler dbz that got used in super mario bros z
that's even dumber lmao
Pretty sure that's actually where it came from
I hadn't considered that yeah but if you tell me they're going "the most important thing is the design of the death egg mk 2 from sonic 4 episode 2" then that's even more inane
The meme version is the bit crunched one that's now eternally associated with smbz
Metal Sonic Voice from Sonic Heroes
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Metal Sonic Voices by Ryan Drummond
Sonic The Hedgehog Series by Sega
Going through yhe voice lines and apparently he does say it at one point
"I'm not a sonic fan so I don't know all the terminology but the level I tested had uhhhh some red and yellow characters I didn't recognise and springs and stuff about and REALISTIC ROLLING MOMENTUM PHYSICS LIKE THE TAXMAN RETRO ENGINE PORTS and I think there were ramps and-"
But it’s not popular enough
Ok now for real
yeah it's very rare when he brings up and I get you
People know it for the cooler line
I was only bringing it up that heroes started it then smbz popularize it
From SMBZ
How do I venture to the SiC server so I can get to the bottom of this
I know nothing over Cooler so rip lmao
the lines may be technically the same but I think that's a coincidence basically
yeah
SMBZ was definitely taking from the US DBZ dub, and then the average mecha sonic mk 2 fan is taking from SMBZ
hit yourself with a hammer few times and you’ll be there
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1:11
Thank you comments
man ngl that sounds less sauce than what neo metal sonic says instead 💀
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Yeah that is probably why I never get it since I know nothing over cooler lmao
Ngl those last few just sound like fanfiction to me
I totally missed this message yesterday lol
Like ok, why is Rouge even a conversation lol. Was she playable or relevant at all? Not to mention having to unironically use up your playtest session type to ask a translator to translate this to Iizuka of all things
also hold on
no that's referring to MK2 as a character
so it's not the death egg, it's mecha sonic
fucking
"it's sega's fault the situatiion is messier"
Ok buddy, sega is telling you it's sega's fault? Lmao
Oh no yeah I was messing around lol
Its probably just some SiC bubble where they refer to Mecha like that
I don't even say this guy doesn't have a legit source or legit play tested the game or something but like, it's clear that whatever he was told is being distorted through the game of telephone to such a degree it's useless to pay attention to it lmao
if you even perceive mk2 in your mind for too long your head explodes, he is simply that powerful
It's very clearly about how Sonic Team is developing Mortal Kombat 2
each of the dev team can only imagine one part of mk2 at a time, one unlucky member saw two limbs at once and he’s been in intensive care for a week now
Saying "too detailed for a concept art" does not understand how robots/machines work 💀
Like genuinely, if it's legit then all I glean from this is that they played boost stages that are like Frontiers Cyberspace and not Shadow Generations (even though to 99% of people the fundamentals there are the same and it's the controls and level design adjustments)
Everything else is just useless
Wait how the fuck did this guy even get pitched as a real leaker 💀

There are so many messages of him holding Iizuka up on a pedestal as well
My Zippo-clone senses are tingling
"Guys I finally got to talk to HIM!"
Can someone remind me what community stuff this person is involved with again?
What the heck is happening here
weird leaks
Like brother
calling them weird instead of fake because they're so bizarrely put that I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if they're "real"
as in, there's a core of truth here and the guy did get to playtest or whatever
this guy’s getting chased out into the streets once the truth comes out
I don’t think that’s…. Alrighty then
but then talked about it in such a stupid way that it's useless as info lol
By me 
I doubt it at this point
🤓 this screenshot isn’t even contextually appropriate because this is about jax realizing that his true emotions are slipping out as he tries to repress them again
The subject of Rouge and Iizuka somehow holding weight in that department was part of his message history before all of this
Thank you. At least you got it
Then lo and behold he somehow talks to him, and confirms that yes, Iizuka Cares™
Like idk, you have to keep in mind that this person has been talking about this playtest for over 2 weeks in private circles.
it’s such bullshit
Like 😭
like, I'm talking "the next game is not named sonic frontiers 2" (which is fairly believable, sonic team don't usually do [name]2) being real and then somehow it becoming "frontiers 2 was dropped" when it's being retold in such a stupid way
While I don't put it past any closet Sonic fan to make up a whole ploy
It's a little too much to maintain
that's the tier I'm putting it at of "this is probably real in some way but so unreliably told it's useless"
We all know it’s gonna be called Sonic Frontiers 2: Electric Boogaloo
like he happens to know about the boob discourse and the art document and all this bullshit
how convenient
The what discourse
I don’t think I wanna know
But yeah it's all super irrelevant stuff
Iizuka is not having candid discussions with random playtesters about how Rouge's design is being destroyed by other internal forces
Iizuka
The PR man himself
also quick question why would he say this on his main account
It's also possible that
like, it's reminding me of zippo going "sonic advance 4" is coming when he probably heard someone vaguely talk about "oh yeah new 2d sonic game being made" when it meant superstars
at least make like a fucking burner or something
a core of truth covered in a whole lot of assumption and misunderstanding
Ok but that has credence in that a game of telephone can be played
If MK2 is too detailed imagine wyvern
if all this shit IS real and he was part of a REAL playtest then his account’s absolutely fucked, surely he’s thought about this
They did get an email from sega but it ended up being a dud, but they were too deep into things and hyped it up too much that they felt they had to make something up
In Zippo hearing 2D game from someone then making up a grander leak
yeah, and what I'm saying is that I can see these dumbass leaks also being the end point of a really absurd game of telephone lol
But he's saying he's the one doing all this
Playing the game, talking to iizuka etc
in that case it’s like
Shook the man's hand
damn anyways
Keep in mind that to be able to playtest you gotta live en los angeles
the model would be made from sketch concept art to begin lmao- not to mention the model sheet does exist, it had to be made for scrapnik island, so it exists now lol
that's what I'm saying, it's like
Zippo made so much shit up behind the scenes it was hilarious 😭
Like knowing people in Japan, knowing people on LinkedIn
You name it
he saw that the scrapnik mecha model sheet is very detailed and somehow that became "blueprints exist for mk2 but also are so complex that no concept art exists" or whatever lol
Meanwhile he is getting me hopes up over fucking Phantasy Star V and PSO Reboot
And I just skedaddled
or saw that it was very detailed and somehow that became "sonic team is obcessed with setting this down" because he assumed it was sonic team doing it and not us when we did it for scrapnik lol
Yeah I just find it so silly over mecha sonic when IDW clearly existed to deny that issue lmao
one grain of truth getting spun into a whole yarn of nonsense
Oh my
Also idk, the whole dynamic that this could be real and them breaking nda so casually like this while also being hella vague
It just feels so attention seeking
this feels like a bunch of random details trying to be spun into a "leak"
oh that's also part of it, I'm fully expecting that this is real and dude's just breaking NDA but trying to be coy about it and also not fully getting what he's breaking NDA about and so it becomes even more nonsense lol
this is literally why people ran to 4chan for legit leaks, they can’t be called out directly because it’s anonymous and nobody knows what they’ve done until it’s too late
point being, in the end, I think he isn't lying per se, but is being such an unreliable narrator that paying attention to what he's saying is useless
thus, not worth paying attention to the leaks
I don't think it's as much attention seeking as much as someone like me coming in saying "guys I just spoke to maekawa and he CONFIRMED a cancelled Sonic game and also intended for Omega's buttcheek to have a birthmark"
It's honestly why to me heroes leak is the final nail in the coffin where it's not worth trusting too much over leakers
That's literally what I was expecting to happen, but then I wake up and Freeze was relaying everything here lol
Wrong reply
Just conforming to previous conversations and facinations of my own accord
in five years maybe some of this will make sense in hindsight but for now it's just playing nostradamus
guess he didn’t freeze his curiousity
Yeah we had this convo during my trip to Japan when I visited the uhh... Checks notes Stardew Valley? headquarters? Might be the wrong farming sim
True true
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sigh
wut
anyway I haven't been paying attention, what other stupid nonsense has been going on in the rumour mill
I got u
people still thinking sonic underground is canon now or something?
1 sec
it was fake
but it was funny
I believe these are real because no fake leaker would use AI this blatantly! @rocky leaf
oh I've been seeing slashy post those and with that exact argument lmao
personally what doesnt help these is that it came out after blitz was out for a while
I found the person who hosted this via linkedin, it says her name at the top
Yeah I mentioned that a few days ago
I could kinda believe that one, the AI slop use is just what I'd expect from marketing or whatever
Sabrina something a marketing person at sega
it's the sonic smackdown bit that's got me like "come on" lol
That person I found, is in marketing at sega
The person who hosted that PowerPoint
you tracked their linkedin down?
But yeah, its a combo of
- Blatant AI use
- Zoom call with camera on
- Sabrina person
- Using Blitz concept art despite the game already being out
oh my fucking god
I think that last point is also a big tell
It wasn’t hard; just type ‘Sabrina sega’ and it comes up
If someone faking this wanted to have "legitimatecy", they would just use the renders that were already out
we’re still fucking batting for these
still
eh dunno, I guess it's probably legit
I guess marketing could just have grabbed the name of a popular fangame to illustrate a concept
There's also another frontiers 2 slide I don't have on hand
the description of the game perhaps more notably seems to be of a platform fighter instead
which would fit the era of every company wanting to do one
if it's legit i better hope to god they don't pick concept c
pretending to play along with this, I think the legit slideshow survey had a bunch of fake ones sprinkled in; obviously the weird mmo multiverse adventure with classic sonic didn’t survive to see the light of day
A concept that would be much cooler if it's sega themed instead of Sonic themed
As usual 😭
so concept c could be another decoy
if of course this “concept c” of this slideshow was real of course which it isn’t
Yeah, that's probably very likely all things considered
we know there was a weirdass concepts slide show before frontiers and yeah it mentioned some sort of mmo with new characters (whose names seemed to just be made up on the spot) but iirc it kinda seemed to match superstars multiplayer? dunno
And if we are to believe this doi person, they didn't show them Frontiers 2 slides lol
things are weird internally and ideas sometimes stick around for years and morph
what were the rest of the old concepts again?
Nah it was a concept to mislead leakers
multiplayer
Apparently it's common tactic
like genshi
it was like, one concept is very clearly an early frontiers, the other was like "sonic and his friends in a multiplayer game with new characters bongo and bombo and bubba" or whatever
That same Sonic Frontiers slides leaker also had a Mario Odyssey 2 slide iirc
Also a dud
bobo, cosmos and spinner somehow became "bongo bombo and bubba" in my memory lmao
wait a minute
if that isn't an example of why leaks can both be real and bullshit, I dunno what is
I love official presentations' unapologetic cheapness and use of AI
gadgets... weekly rankings.... skins....
They do not care about the things we care about at all 💀
i think using stupid ass fan renders in official presentations is infinitely funnier than ai
Creative, if not else
I mean, it's the same thing basically
it's just a shortcut of "ok the people this is being shown to are probably absolute morons so it needs SOME visual of SOME kind"
back then that meant "google image something" now it's "ok grok give me bobo cosmos and spinner"
right, but the former just gives this feeling of "what the fuck are you doing here"
It's kinda funny cause like, all these slides are very slap-dashed together, but the handwritten Frontiers era ones were like... Goofy and whimsical and out there, and then these new AI ones are the most out of the box AI prompt responses ever 😭
they prolly do these slides like a day before so
joining sega and using this in my pitch slide about sonic the fighters 2
Also damn, wouldn't this prove that they were using AI for the concepts of these games 😭
wasn't the datamined text from blitz pretty clearly chat gpt
tbh I'd say that's probably the reason why you had fucking like
last i heard it was just bios ripped from the sonic wiki so gpt would 100% do that
wes weasley or whatever listed as a character they want to do
they probably went "chat gpt list me sonic characters for a big roster in a card game" and it went and looked at the wiki and went "ok here's sonic characters:
- has bean"
Chatgpt knows its cartoon lore
the characters listed in the game files were also using stuff from sonic wikia
thats why they had sally accorn and such lmao
they put it in the game and start working on it and only after a bit does sega look at it and go "what the FUCK"
so they probably made chatgpt do the json for it
Ya
I’m still hesitant on the PowerPoint leak
Cuz like the only thing that’s telling me it’s such bs is we don’t know the date
Where did you get this from
non-zero chance blitz will not survive like a year given how rovio goes through projects lmao
And granted the only thing backing up the fighting concept is the job listings
Isn’t this from that one 3D Sonic animator
Use ai but then default to using the 3d models
what is rumoring in the Sonic rumors channel
My pants
heh….
that one was real
rings: 300032
but it was an oopsie
well yeah we know that now
is funny how superstars dlc was there but nothing really came out
the game really fumbled
"new mobile game"...
but Lego and ears the rabbit
Apparently someone leaked the newer presentation of this months ago but sega was smarter and put a password on the pdf
that one I'm pretty sure was fake
hell nah
they really gatekept superstars plus
I don't remember it in detail now but I remember knowing some extra stuff behind the scenes at the time that contradicted that one
who is that
dont worry
I think it was just poorly put together again with mistakes
The fact that you tell me not to worry only makes me worry more
Which ironically I've come to realize that mistakes make something more likely to be real
Because fake leaker fans are insanely detail oriented lmao

Live footage of me playing Crossworlds
man am i too deep into this sonic shit why am i sitting here listening to advice for sifting out leaks
Anyways
hi spectre
Always blame Zippo
lool
That would be hella dope tho
lmfao
from a gameplay standpoint probably yeah
But ywah it's 100% fake

but after forces and frontiers
10000% 
no more evil digital shit
MONKE
Imagine this doi person played the most sublime Sonic thing ever but was too confused about semantics to realize the greatness 😭
tbh, I remember when the concept k and stuff came out there were other concepts too no?
were like 3 too
but only one really came to be real which is frontiers
don’t lose hope fiery there will be a fighting game
I’ve seen folks insisting on that leak being real because it had someone’s name being streamed via Zoom
And you are going to be ruler of it
That’s too much attention to detail in my leak #tbh
Cause, you know, I bet you most people who playtested Shadow Gens and then were asked on it were probably thinking "it's more of the same, looks like Cyberspace"
Such fucking bullshit do you know how many people have the name Sabrina
so maybe is not that the frontiers 2 slides are fake is prolly just that the only real game there was just Blitz while the other 2 were just meant for tester reaction
1 marketing person at sega looool
Even the ppl who played it ag SGF said it felt like cyberspace but obvs better
one of the biggest stars currently is named Sabrina
Just look up sega of america sabrina linkedin
no like what’s crazy is that why would u zoom call a presentation in person? 💀💀
not everybody uses LinkedIn 😭
plug
Does she work in marketing at sega? Lmao
💀
Plug they work for a big media company ofc they need to have linkedIn
its fake lil bro….
Yes
there is no tooth fairy
Only 1 employee with the name Sabrina at sega pops up when you google. Conveniently works in marketing and things like that
there is no playtest
I’m speaking on the person named in the leak
and there is NO SABRINA
man you do not need to ping me every time 😭
sabrina? thats the one Im talking about

There could be others named Sabrina, but this person is just conveniently there and fits the bill
In the 4chan leak it said it looked like a young jp girl, and in one of her jobs there’s lit a pic of her she doesn’t even look any older than 22😭
the point I’m making is that there’s no proof proving that these two Sabrinas are the same person
she's a witch
Cookie Run Kingdom aaa render
YES
Can you find this leak?
again
Interesting
oh I’ve heard of her I think
I KNEW SOMEONE WOULD MAKE THE SABRINA WITCH JOKE
so much convo for a fake leak 😭
NO
Fizz I salute you
very unconventional
Prove it
(I haven’t watched Buffy the vampire slayer)
plug how are you able to run with classic sonic in cw when shit looked fake as hell but now you're throwing punches saying there's two sabrinas 😭
that was then, this was now
there’s proving and then there’s knowing 🙂↕️
also classic sonic in crossworlds is like a given considering Sega anyway and I wasn’t 100% on the render
sega has the chance to do something very funny
what would they do
I triple dog dare them
my appendix will burst before sega gives up on classic sonic
Ok I was like somehow under the impression that this person's age had any relevance...
No, this person was just not able to keep their thoughts to themselves 😭
60 FPS being considered revolutionary by SEGA considering they act like no higher frame rates exist on PC is such a sega thing too
But yeah no, seems legit
praying that never happens
forces had 120fps
since when?
pc ver
no way
Yes way
go download it
We are not horses....
what the fuck😭
doesn't shadow gens support 120
we talking about the genai leak
na
wtf !
Still I genuinely wonder how tf people find these focus tests
Like who do you even talk to
I think it doesnt cuz I remember bobnik always saying that forces had 120 and ulimited fps 😭
You prob just sign up for random tests
And they got lucky enough for sonic
There’s no setting on forces for 120fps
there is websites and sega insight lab
Granted I got invited to a sega playtest a couple months ago 😭
fiery what’s the next sonic game gonna be about
Insights lab is booty cheeks
Couldn’t go cuz I was at college 😭 😭 😭
What websites
wrings out your balls
quickly before I boil everybody
From where?
from what I could remember it was NYC
fiery please answer
not really
they only do playtests for people that live in south california
Hmmm i guess its possible this person got it from there
Unreliable I say!
I won't be surprised if so
Was it within your vicinity?
At my home ya, but I was at college at the time
Also like... What if someone has work or something 😭
But I do wonder fiery during SEGA playtest, what other games you think follow the similar position as VF?
was about to take a train down there for the day but I had finals a week before during that time
I think they did it based on ur personal preferences
I think I had Sonic, VF, and Jet Set
Ayo boss, sorry I gotta playtest this Sonic game can't make it today!
fiery could've gained 200 bucks from playtesting jet set radio 💔
we could’ve had our own Starman
fiery could've gained 2000 bucks from playtesting jet set radio and leaking the details to me personally 💔
I would've paid back in 1800...
Actually hold on
It was rumble
Looked at the address and it was the same as the one given to me
Actually nvm
MAKE UP YOUR MIND
a fumble was dodged
😭
I'm getting sick of you omg😭
Sorry i thought it said it was for Rovio but it was just a private event venue
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