#Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation
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Pretty sure Square did that also with FF7 Crisis Core
I hope if they can't fix up HE then yeah they have already transitioned over
I'm just saying that a lot of skeleton code will be retained
Doesn't mean the game will feel the same
Bobnik ik eu has it's problems but as it stands out i'd rather have that than he version 1.2.3
this 4ch post reads like if someone wanted to make a fake rumour but tried to pretend to be someone who doesn't follow sonic
Bro fucking prepared for me starting to hate on UE
like of course wentos and chao egg and
like I wouldn't be opposed to that and I fully believe they're cooking something up but I also don't know if I can trust this
a cyberpunk city would be cool though
Btw i'm not saying eu 5.X will be perfect but i'm just sayin' that if sega doesn't pull out the miracle that was he1 for it's time for he3 then i don't see the point
very likely Sonic Team wont move away from HE2 until the next Xbox and PlayStation console release in like, 2030 or something
assuming they haven't decide to switch to unreal engine already
Ok ok but if they just call it HEDGEHOG ENGINE X
make the term mean something by naming the new level geometry streaming tech Blast Processing™️ 
I know everyone talks about the downsides of UE when it comes to problems and stuff, but considering Hedgehog Engine actively suffers issues that they haven't fixed yet that define sweeping critical failings, I don't think it's that bad an alternative to a pretty bleh engine already
What issues
I will leave it to Deleter
Killing both of you
You got this Alex
all that comes to mind rn is the level streaming being cut post-Gens but idk if that's an issue with the whole engine
anything else is like idk having less active support compared to ue and needing to get new devs up to speed for this
anyway i'm the last person to ask i just wanted to chime in
sonic analog horror
On a serious note - UE5 is just the industry standard unfortunately, so them moving there wouldn't be surprising and there'd be benefits in terms of hiring people.
It just sucks that the industry standard is UE5
yea that's understandable
Cuz Unity is hella untrustworthy and, while Godot is getting much better, it's still not exactly there yet when it comes to doing AAA stuff
still as goofy as it was that BS used Godot (and made it look like they used their own custom engine lmao), it was still sorta impressive to see it used considering it wasn't intended to make anything for consoles
do hope that engine gets farther
Capcom are still on their RE Engine, but even that started to show cracks pretty badly
With MH Wilds running and looking generally rough no matter what platform you choose
8 million copies say what
Yeah, people don't care enough
And it sucks
And it just sucks even more that companies are moving even further from their own proprietary stuff in this case, like CD Projekt Red
They also moved to Unreal because Cyberpunk was a mess, but now it actually looks like an extremely versatile thing that has all the new tech shit being added to it as a benchmark of sorts
I'm sure that if square was capable of figuring stuff out to make ue4 look way better, sega can do it
Ok but
For the next game
If there's win screens
I'm sorry
But sega gotta go hard and make a custom animation for every rank for each stage
Like 50+ of these things
They gotta reach the next level
The fact that in frontiers
Sonic just idles mid air once he touches the goal ring(?)
Still baffles me
True !
That bullet dash ablity lines up with the Sonic Blitz trademark
maybe it's real idk
The person who wrote this is well aware of the trademark and usually fake leakers cater their leaks to recent news
Lining up with something we already know means nothing
Most probably
it's sounds cool, we'll see I guess
Maybe tho
honestly, I doubt they will change to UE
not rn at least
cuz if so, I feel like yakuza games would've been the first ones to be in a new engine and it seems they still rocking that dragon engine
as of now the only games that has been using UE are just spinoffs or remakes
like a dragon used dragon engine same as pirates in hawaii
metaphor still using the same engine as persona 5 and catherine
only yakuza ishin and persona 3 reload has used unreal and both are remakes
as for sonic, only crossworld seems to be using it too
To be fair, Crossworlds is also kind of a weird one due to it being worked on by the Initial D team
Which worked on Unreal for some time now
Yo hold on
Sonic Liberty kinda sounds fire
😭
And a cyberpunk-esque city would be absolutely insane too
can't say it doesn't sound cool but feeling strong vibes of "lemme recreate how bizarre the sonic ranger leak felt like + totally things I don't want wdym what's a sonic"
Eh it kinda does
But at the same time we really can’t take this stuff without a blind eye
Rn sadly to say it’s prob fake cuz they don’t get instantly reported on like that
It’s usually like really tucked away in 4chan
would of course be really cool with the setting if it was real tho'
But fr tho
A game called Sonic Liberty and it takes place in a cyberpunk esque city would be insanely cool
And it’s def a sega thing to do
I like the idea of going outside the city and the music dynamically adjusting to the theme, would like something like that in a sonic game
nah but like if we actually gonna get cyberpunk city with the same amount of details as metropolis from forces i already gonna glaze this game till my death
Okay so that Sonic Jiyu leak might be real
why?
why?

Some Sega footage got posted 6 hours ago but got taken down
Lmao what
someone DMed about this and tbh it's probably fake but it's funny so
what is this
CAN YOU SAY GREEN HILL
why you said it looked real then lol
I thought it was real for like a solid 30 seconds 😭
Idrc too much if it’s real or not
Explorers is too funny
Time to go for Dora allegations
IS THE LOGO THE IMAGE
Mickey memes are so two years ago
honestly speaking of Sonic I think Crossworlds is a June release
stop avoiding the question
Do you have the footage Tuski?
what even WAS the footage
basically what APPRENTLY happened was 6 hours ago footage got out there of an unreleased Sonic game and it got taken down frame one
uhuh
are you seriously basing this on what fucking grok said?
Grok?
whos grok
wtf is grok
Naaah we got AI telling us rumors 😭😭😭
Elon Musk Chatgpt
Take me back to the 4chan days
oh the one that flagged the thing
where the hell is this from tho
also what 128bot posted is just the "disabled by request" image
not the actual thing taken down
this is how it actually looks
where the hell did soni get that stupid logo
That I have no idea, probably someone made a fan logo or whatever
I really hope the Jiyu leak is real because the idea of combat being more speed based/ramming into enemies feels like it would work better
because tuski fell for the bait
Please explain why you said that
oh ffs what a waste of time
This bait doesn't say anything about Sonic Jiyu
And it's 2 different people posting on twitter
What’s the Jiyu rumor?
lmao
And then there's the Dandori guy that says Sonic Jiyu
grrr
made by annoying people
Dandori could just be guessing, I don't fucking know
But ofc the Dandori guy has that pfp that Jon Cartwright used when he was trolling with fake Direct leaks
Bruh
weird.
that's so specfic wtf
essentially this makes me think that 4chan rumor is even more fake than it was before because it's just this random dude's opinion
And maybe someone found it and decided to use that word cuz "that word looks smart, I'll use that for my bullshit"
Basically
The person who made the 4chan leak seems quite neck deep
As we discussed last time
They know what a Wentos is but choose to describe him in an oblivious way to seem inconspicuous
Among many other things
Actually
And they could have easily seen this Jiyu post or are one of this person's friend and just used that name
there was that image posted of the Sega CEO and the image behind him showed a unused concept art of Sonic running towards a city
Sonic Fencetiers
https://x.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/1854823353456202016?t=NnROY2BSRtWlehFvK72VJA&s=19 the background here could be a city idk
Sonic explorers is a nasty name
you are a few months late to the party lol
if that concept art is of a city in the BG the Jiyu leak could have some legitmacy? idk
Triplejaz moment

I would really like the next game to not have an S at the end of the name
My favorite game is Sonic Adventures 2
Tails moment
Idk but I do not mess with metroidvanias like that
thats a shame
Backtracking way too much is a chore for me
i love metroidvanias
metroidvanias are the game where the second playthorugh is so much better than the first
I loved the prequel, Sonic Submissive
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
This could make for a great template
Almost punched my monitor
Damn and I thought I hated Prime
So you know those very specific images that people use as reactions like that one evan stanley art of Sonic?
It gets on my nerves after a while😭
whenever I see that artwork where sonic eats shit from the "mediocrity" bowl, I want to punt them real hard
damn i dont think i got enough hate in my heart to want to punch someone
You can change that
Wanna trade hate levels
Fake leak from a suspicious account caused this ruckus
dont pull up my logs.
What is hiding in the lumbermill
wouldnt u like to know
no such thing
what's the current state of leaked/rumored projects?
i mean what do we have
Chao Guardians
Football game
Heroes Remake
that Sonic jiyu thing is sooooo fake
I feel like Heroes Remake ain't happening, idk why
i hope not 😁😁
I feel like there's just not a sensible time to release it
Unless they push the next mainline game to 2027
Imo unlikely
exactly
We're getting CW this year
Mario Kart will release before July I'd say
So I'd give CW a few more months
Like late october
even early november
2026 is most likely Frontiers 2
Soooo yeah maybe 2027 idk
also last year Ryan/Midori said the game hadn't really started dev
like in early 2024
so I guess 2027 isn't a crazy guess
Did ya'll see this

the fucking picture lmfao
perhaps that time stones mention in sonic gens rewrite was a hint...
Stop it
now that I remember
wasnt there also a fake leak that mentioned something similar?
I swear I've seen the gain speed to access some cyberspace level before
way before the one this one is mentioning
Tbh i wouldn't be surprised if Freeze himself wrote this lmao
They are all using meme images associated with old leaks
Very in-the-know kind of thing
What???
I would not use the Knuckles hospital bed and I would defo not say Sonic Chaos
That's a crazy ass accusation
I was looking for the OG 4chan archive post to show to friends in a call and I found someone posted another
ah
My bad for assuming you'd stoop so low as to mention Sonic Chaos
I apologize
I dont think is just the sonic chaos mention 
Davih did you do it
You little...

This definitely isn’t real but I’m gonna pretend that it is because the story of the leaker getting caught is so fucking funny
are we about to enter the Sonic Frontiers 2 4chan era? haha
Sonic anything 4chan era is more like it
i mean if its actually real it does sounds cool
i like that you need a speed to enter levels frontiers already has a flow but it looks like they may lean into it more
and open world design being similar to odyssey is nothing crazy we already saw that in FH
2026 Frontiers 2 release date or 2027 Frontiers 2 release date??
this "bullet dash/bullet blitz" mechanic sounds like an evolved version of that Revving boost mechanic in final horizan cyberspace
why would they remember each name in the survey
anniversarys dont mean shit they skip them with forces,mania and frontiers
End of 2026 at the absolute earliest
It’ll be November 2026
could see it being released in 2027 to have it on the next gen consoles and for current gen
Oh my god I actually forgot Sony wants a next-gen console in 2027
what even is next gen anymore
yes
but yeah I can see next Kishi sonic game at near the end of 2026
probably yeah
I can guarantee a teaser at The Game Awards this year if the next mainline game is slated to come out in 2026
I thought about Sonic Central maybe, but nah
That is way too small now that the franchise is doing much better compared to 2021
yeah game awards is where its at now
I am still thinking TGA wise they'll may probably reveal both new kishi sonic game and Persona 6 if SEGA wanted to go something bigger
persona 6 and frontiers 2 in one year will be big for them
considering they expect persona 6 to sold 5M ina first year
It'll honestly be the best timing for SEGA if they wanted to go much bigger
It'll essentially be like with Nintendo's 2017 over with both BOTW and Odyssey
yea especially if frontiers 2 is gonna score really good
with persona 6 there is no doubt this game is gonna get 90+ on metacritic
Absolutely. If SEGA wanted to keep the quality going, this is easily their chance
Honestly I’m thinking a teaser at central is somewhat likely and a gameplay teaser at TGA
2026 and 2027 gonna be big for Sonic
Oh yeah teaser no doubt
But I’m still very confident if we get another central this year, it’s def gonna have 35th anniversary stuff
Either be an event announcement or something else
Agreed
I hope they don't do non-gameplay teasers
Crossworlds kind of got away with it because there was a playable network test less than 3 months later
Ehh idk
And even then
I still feel sega is still on that dumb streak to do cgi teasers
they need to match odyssey reveal ngl
It gets fans ravenous
frontiers def is worst case because even when they announce game properly at tga they mostly just show environments
We see Sonic enter a frame, rolling down hills, jumping area to area. Big Sonic CD intro vibe
That's what it should be honestly freeze
basically superstars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3g-62NNoUs&t=16s
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or mania
That’s my point of reference
Shadow Gens teaser was great
we got CGI AND gameplay
Think of Gens CGI opening if it transitioned into Green Hill Act 2
it tricked us so hard
the game looked phenomenal the music was boppin and the cg to ingame transition was so
I guess bosses but Bridge Island is still amazingly designed
Ngl I’m replaying Superstars and damn is the level design genuinely amazing…
we only really saw bridge island and cyber station
Just please get new boss designers…
The only thing I guess you could say you were tricked about is the music lol
I think superstars was the outliner cuz the game was releasing like within 4 months after that
The rest of it is just how the game actually is
Think that’s the first sonic game with the shortest reveal window
At least the good zones 
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Yeah but Mania in game didn’t have generic rave trailer music
I lowkey hate how the Hyper Potion beep boop rave music is now a classic staple
i think superstars trailer did trick me in thinking the music would be good
and so did the nintendo direct trailer
Sonic Superstars is coming to Nintendo Switch in fall 2023! Wishlist today: https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/sonic-superstars-switch/
Adventure through the mystical Northstar Islands in this classic Sonic high-speed action platformer game. Play as 4 unique fan favorites and harness the Emerald powers to move and attack in dynamic new way...
I think consistent is a better word
Cause Superstars has good tracks in it
sure yea
It’s just very inconsistent
classic has better announcement traielrs than modern #nooticing
moder
probably cuz it focuses more on the gameplay
Cause you don’t need to hide boost slop from the masses…
modern tries to be mysterious
Joke btw don’t take it seriously
boost slop sells better than your oshima k1no
id say the very short trailer before the ign gameplay was pretty decent
I think that’s exactly what sega wants
Yeah like classic trailers can’t really rely on anything else but gameplay lol
yeah boost ain't going away lmao
Sega always does something mysterious for modern sonic
i think a balance is needed
And I think they’re still gonna do that
All the boost games individually sold less than Frontiers #nooticing
…
honestly think its just as simple as "the last time they announced a 3D sonic game they absolutely were not ready to show gameplay" lol
well if the Sonic jiyu rumors are true
boost is being reworked into something else
I think the mechanic described in all these leaks sound very realistic to what I’m hearing
Ehh I think it’s gonna be entirely different
Spark 3 dash + top speed boost that you have to earn sounds exactly like a good evolution of the boost
And something Kishimoto would do listening to the feedback
With leaks like these this early, they all try to piggyback one another
On the same boat too fiery
I wouldn’t be surprised if the leaks are very similar to what ends up happening
Even if there lowkey full of shit
like, they've finally got their act together with timescales, so now with announcements for the same year as the release they've actually got stuff ready to show from the last leg of development
also spin dash and bounce attack is back
according to them
Idk, but I think a cyberpunk city is kinda, idk not a sega thing to do rn
What I am most hoping is that they are expanding more so on multiple playable chars
They would honestly go the most random ass direction
Reworked boost + more focused on time attacks/arcady missions vs botw puzzles
All sounds very in line with the Kishimoto twitter feedback it’s weird
I think it’s just very weird due to the first leak being formatted exactly like the og frontiers leak with the chao photo
full year and a half before release, what on earth were they cooking lol https://youtu.be/Ppyle5XOyY4
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And then he mentions he isn’t a sonic fan, yet they just drop Westos 😭
(granted its clear why cos we were desperate for anything from the next game but like, they absolutely should've just waited til they had something to share like with superstars/shadow gens)
This might be dumb but I lowkey like that approach
absoutely dogshit approach, never again
Crash N Sane Trilogy was announced a year before so it made the hype season worth vs Crash 4
i dont mind when its a year from release but i need more than just sonic running in a forest
much prefer to actually see the videogame instead of like 6 months of debate over "sonic runs in circle"
N Sane had gameplay tho on reveal
But I think a year of suspense and hype is better then like 3-6 months of nothing
def feels like they've learnt lessons from frontiers' leadup with superstars/shadow gens
Ngl Shadow Gens was dipping hard into that sort of territory
"here is the new game, here is what it looks like and how it plays, btw in your hands ready to play in 6 to 8 months enjoy"
bish bash bosh
It was like so little then they revealed literally everything
Shadow Gens hype was honestly boring ngl
yea they def revealed like, nearly everything from shadow gens lol
(just like the og gens tho so like, throwback I guess drfhgvesbr 😭 )
begging them on my hands and knees to stop showing sonic stuff at geoff events
Honestly I think they’ll do that
But this time we will actually get gameplay at game awards
I mean preferably I want geoff to just implode onstage one day but I'll take no sonic and nobody tuning in cos of it
But imma be honest too, I think we’re getting 2 games for next year
sticks his head up his own arse so hard he folds in on himself into nothingness
My thing is that we’ve got like two questionable leaks and are already jumping the gun
absolutely not lol
This could be a 2027 game
Sonic Blitz being an open world game is just so weird to me
Bro Geoff is just a pile of depression 😭
When those cameras are off, he’s just looks so dead
Like he doesn’t even want to be there
I mean, he doesn't lol, he's there for the sweet sweet moolah
dorito pope never change, backbone made of dollar bills
I thought it was gonna be Heroes remake 2025/26 and frontiers 2 2026/27
they're def pacing it out for one new game on shelves every year tho I'm pretty sure, they've prolly got multiple games on the go in dev rn but I think they'll just keep the others in the oven til they're needed
Now some are saying reversed
a year of nothing is better than 3-6 months of nothing, alright, ok, I see the vision

I think CG trailers then a year+ of nothing sucks no matter what game we're talking about
I'm still not convinced there's a heroes remake
see: Fable, State of Decay 3, Perfect Dark, Dragon Age Veilguard, Mass Effect 4, Sonic Forces, The Outer Worlds 2, Contraband, Fairgame$, Concord, Elder Scrolls 6 (that one's gonna be 8 next year!), Starfield...
Heroes Remake would just work but like
Tbh I think Heroes Remake would make more sense as an anniversary game ngl
Honestly...... yeah I can see that
tbf frontiers didnt have a year of nothing nro shadow gens
When is Movie 4 coming out again?
they tease the game at may of 2021 and announce it properly at december
March 19th 2027 (kinda forgor they gave an exact date)
then gameplay reveal at june 2022
i dont think what i will say makes sense
but i feel sega will not touch sa1 and sa2, yet
for remakes
but heroes i am TRULY sensing thats what is coming next
it makes too much sense
its a less beloved game but that sold REALLY damn well
as a kid heroes was the ultimate sonic game
the standard
Agreed honestly
I feel like when it comes to both SA1 and SA2 it comes down to their confidence. Especially since that this series haven't done an HD remake for like...... ever actually
and despite the dub is defintely not as a cult classic as sa1 or sa2.
and i dont think heroes will be just a simple remake but some kind of reimagining
they like to do this thing where the remake has to fit with the current portrayal of the series
or a game that took place in the past
like superstars or gens
to me i feel shadow gens is basically taking gens and putting them as a current thing, not exactly before colors.
is hard to explain
but its how sonic treats amy in supperstars vs sa1
i feel they are gonna change a LOT in this supposed heroes remake
which is something they are totally never gonna do with sa1 and sa2
we will never get a total reimagining
but heroes?
possible.
I will say Heroes remake will be a massive step around over what is really SEGA's current direction over the series. Especially with certain chars
What helps even more is that they can actually put any effort over heroes story like with Metal Sonic reappearing, Shadow coming back in some form, chaos data, etc.
Amy and rewrites really worry me when it comes to Heroes
But honestly I wanted to add either hooligans or Trip/Mighty/Ray
I am fine with that
Because I hated how Amy is portrayed in Heroes and the story is nearly nonexistant I have to be real
Give me SA1 Amy back plz
a script rewrite wouldn't be a bad idea for a Heroes remake if they were upfront about it, if the game was advertised as a reimagining, that'll be fine I think
there is a ton they could do with additions to the story in heroes
Which is honestly is the main point over a heroes reimagine where they could do a hell ton over the story
instead of just talking about heads spinning ian can add some actual decent banter
Aka Heroes Amy with a less slapstick light hearted tone
I’m saying Heroes Amy and SA1 Amy are the same character, just different tones
Heroes Amy haters after watching one episode of the looney tunes
I need to find a gif brb
what if heroes comes out this year
before I do, I really doubt
Mayhaps
That’s what Ryan aka Midori was saying
I always got that vibe
But she’s defo slapstick in Riders
Yeah Riders is where I'd point to if you wanna see something more slapstick
Heroes is like neutered slapstick where it's almost there but it feels stilted since there's no real physical comedy other than the last few cutscenes
yeah but
frontiers took 5 years from scratch to finish
Frontiers 2 has started right after Frontiers release
what was this idiot sayin
doesn't mean it still can't take 5 years
There hasn't been a 3D Mario game since Odyssey
most of the team still worked on updates till october 2023
nah it was a small team
I don't count Bowser's Fury because that's different
he said it
yep but it's different
well not most of the team but not a small part also
a mario game will definitely take longer than a sonic game
why
i specifically remember him saying small team
thats not how game develoment work
do mario games really follow traditional game development though
didn't wonder take a lot of time because they didn't force a deadline on them
there's the movie deadline in early 2027
Except none of the recent games have come out exactly on movie dates
we dont know how long they developed wonder tho
they’ve been moreso in similar years
frontiers was supposed to be 2021, it just got delayed
yeah this also
yeah except one
Shadow
2 months earlier
it's more or less the same
sxsg was 2 months before, it was close but not exactly
metal sonic is main villain of frontiers 2 confirmed
i ain't giving a single cent to sega if so
I'm guessing the next 3D Mario may be a big open world game
and if so, it's more complex to make giant worlds out of platforming challenges vs empty fields like in BOTW
Both require their complexity
I'm kinda hoping it actually is bigger than odyssey to take full advantage of the Switch 2's better hardware, but I'm also kinda anxious about that since replaying Odyssey feels tiresome
so I feel saying that undermines what BOTW accomplishes
have a feeling that new 3d mario is going to be really different
not like TOTK which is jsut BOTW but better and bigger
Yeah
Nintendo doesn't tend to do the same for Mario
64 and sunshine are different
odyssey is different from galaxy
and bowser's fury is marginally different from 3d world even if they use the same base
only times they don't detatch that much is with sequels
galaxy 2 and 3d world (and even then this one had other kind of priorities with respect to 3d land)
Guys I think it's quite easy go predict the focus of the next titles for the immediate future
If movie 4 has Metal Sonic and Amy I can see them being a focus in the next main game
Assuming it releases by 2027
i don't think they knew
they didn't even know for shadow in the post credits
they guessed it
There is cross planning
If there is a Heroes remake, I guess a new story showing how Metal became Neo
And replaced Eggman and kidnapped him
Would make sense
As a prequel
And for the next Frontiers game a big focus on Amy
Yes
SGF?
yep
is ryan trustworthy for sega stuff?
i think he deactivated his account because of wrong persona 6 leaks
Reminder they teased Heroes in the tailstube season 2 announcement at Sonic Central years ago
he deactivated his account cuz hes a fucking creep
^
what
he deactived for a while after he got exposed larping
he did something else recently?
i thought he deactivated after tga
Probably it’s best chance this year honestly
Yea i feel it will be sudden but not too much
hmmmmmmm
so we have crossworlds
mk9 will release in may-july i think
so may-july is out of the question for cw
i think it'll be october/november
i can't see when heroes remake could release in 2025
Question, which seems more likely a release date for the frontiers successor? 2026 or 2027
2026
With crossworlds this year and frontiers 2 maybe next year I just don't see a heroes remake
i do
I mean if movie 4's taking some inspiration from it then sure but otherwise it just feels kinda random
Sonic Heroes X Metal Sonic?
not as big as shadow gens
Orrrr Neo Sonic Heroes?
thats a really good name
when this was tweeted we had no idea of cw being a thing
Shame the actual name would be way lamer :))
Sonic Heroes Neo is good
metal sonic being the single player campaign works perfectly
Helps considering with sonic 4 movie. Plus it'll technically be a repeat like with sonic 4 episode metal
But I'd imagined for metal sonic will essentially have 4 levels based on the teams' introductions. Team Sonic because self explanatory. Team Dark because Shadow. Team Rose because Chocola and Froggy. Team Chaotix because imitating eggman
marketing for cw and heroes at the same time is impossible
- rumble, chao guardians, etc.
But yeah I feel like it's too late for heroes showing up this year due to crossworlds
I would say 2026
Mainly because they know what they are making from the get-go. The Sonic Frontiers that we got wasn’t 5 years of development
yeah
It’s blatantly clear it had a different direction during its early development until they realized it was going fucking nowhere
like by late 2019 their concept wasn't super clear
And had to put together the game in like 2 to 3 years
i think it it took them like 2-3 years to have a clear idea of a direction
by late 2019 it hadn't even started or had barely started iirc
now they have a much clearer direction
Yep. The next game shouldn't have this problem at all
They know what they are making from minute 1
That's also why I can easily see Frontiers 2 at 2026. Since they have a clear direction going on
3-4 years is reasonable
Only reason why Frontiers took so long is just development being taking a lot longer. That's about it
The shadow gens team and frontiers team are also now on the same group right?
As ouranus island and rhea island proves it
They should be yes
Even Ian is involved with shadow gens also
Not to mention the supposed new hires that Sega wants for Sonic Team
The only reason I can see it being 5 years is either if they are really ambitious with it or the worst case scenario, development once again isn’t going smoothly for reasons
SEGA right now is going to make Sonic Team, RGG Studios, and ATLUS even bigger
I hope its not the latter
It's why 2026 is going to be the game changer for SEGA with having both Frontiers 2, Persona 6, and Project Centuary (if possible)
anyways i do see sonic heroes this year, crossworlds is a different team and different type of game
yeah but like
Crossworld the more I think about it the more I realize this. It's still a spinoff
do you think kids will buy both
Yes
like parents will think "i bought you sonic already why are you asking me for another one"
idk
One is a racing spinoff and the other is a remake of a main series
pure speculation
I feel like your underestimating kids pepito
crossworlds releasing the same year as mk9 is dramatic
Why are all these leaks assuming the next mainline Sonic is Sonic blitz; the game Sega has already trademarked 
yeah clearly lol
People will do the same thing with the likes of Mario and Pokemon
Sonic will be nod ifferent
that was pure speculation
It just feels a little bloated of a year either way you slice it
Yeah
plus, lets not forget about the season pass.
very probably
Of course I am just more of bringing both of them because similar audience
When a mainline game gets its name trademarked, the reveal isn't very far behind
every year will be bloated, get used to it
^
Sonic Blitz would be an interesting title
"but crossworlds" crossworlds is not gonna matter they will keep releasing sonic products
If that's the name for the mainline game
If the leaks are correct 'blitz' would be the name of the new mechanic yeah?
nah frontiers got trademarked like one year before its release
It did?
But not one year before it's reveal
Meanwhile something like Sonic Stadium gets trademarked and is waiting in the wings
https://www.sonicstadium.org/forums/topic/29650-sonic-frontiers-trademarked-by-sega/ exactly one year
Nov 8 2021
See, they have the teaser trailer image to go along with it 😭
Sonic Blitz is defo not it
sonic 3d blitz engine....
Wait what do we know about Sonic Blitz so far?
Outside of the title. Best to recap at least
I think nothing
nothing !
Honestly though if there was some kinda new move replacing the boost or spindash, 'blitz' at least sounds cool enough
Fair enough lmao
all the leaks seem to be bs so far
So I guess we just only gotten the name at least and the "leakers" are just being typical
maybe they're using it for that mobile sports game that leaked a few times a go
probably
It's the only possible guess yeah
I hope so because blitz doesn’t scream a name used for mainline
it sounds like something for another banger apple arcade exclusive !!!
it sounds mobile
People normally associate Blitz with sports or fighting games
It sounds mobile too
from ffx
Wait
but yea does feel like crossworlds ain't the only thing this year, but I'm not expecting anything mainline either
If blitz is the soccer game then what is Sonic Stadium gonna be
I mean usually the subtitles centre around the gameplay or story mcguffin tbf
what
what's sonic stadium
a place where you discuss sonic games to the death
Can’t this be a codename or it is when they trademark a title that it sets in stone that they will go for that name?
If mainline wise, probably just Heroes remake
I feel like 2026 is when SEGA going back to their up games again
Which essentially their big 3 IPs
Trademark sets it in stone yeah
Wasn’t there a game trademarked literally named Sonic soccer
hmmmm
Huh
I don’t remember that
i'll always remember that one game i've waited so much
anyway wow sonic is cool anyway dino crisis got a trademark in japan let's gooooo
and its west release got cancelled because of a trademarking issue
Are they like making 3 different Sonic sports games?
Soooo
Oh wait, can’t they also be a different name for the same game in Japan that they also trademark or am I being dumb?
Basically confirmed/trademarked:
Stadium (mobile)
Blitz
Frontiers 2
Spin Battle
Rumored:
Chao Guardians (mobile)
Heroes Remake
Basically correct altho
There's also Sonic Spin Battle
I feel like putting Frontiers 2 being unofficial fits better since it's pretty much a no brainer
That works too
I hope we don’t have to call that anymore by the end of the year
my dreams: sonic battle with spins
the reality: some arcade thing with spin tops
bro how many fucking games are there
Ikr? lmao
I can see Blitz being a mainline game
because it sounds less mobile than Spin Battle or Stadium
but it could just be a spin off lol
They weren't kidding when they said that they wanted to pump out Sonic stuff consistently since 2022
mobile releases aren't huge so it's okay to have them at the same time
grrraaaaaahh i wanna know if heroes remake is a thing or no
Its probably a thing but something we won’t see for a while
Especially if the next mainline game is gonna be released in 2026
not trademarked actually
from here
sonic soccer strikers
watch ATLUS do their own take of FE: Heroes lmao
If the heroes remake is real, I really genuinely don't want them to have it be made by a development team with a shoddy track record
which is
Oh yeah, that entire thing
most of these games are going to be lost media 10-15 years from now i’m calling it rn 
Blind Squirrel
honestly leaph i dont think it would be that kind of halfassed remaster
it would be a full new game
I'm laughing at the Super Monkey Ball one because they probably saw Banana Rumble selling like 5 copies and has likely bailed out on the idea of a Super Monkey Ball game ob mobile
What’s that Sonic game in Netflix
a sonic heroes reimagining
Not prime dash fuck that
chao guardians + chao tales this year trust
Oh that’s chao guardian
Pretty sure that mobile Monkey Ball game was first heavily rumored before they fooled us with Banana Rumble
Good because I don’t want to imagine that the first new Monkey Ball game in over a decade being an Apple Arcade only game
Looks at Katamari
Idk
I do hope that they're more particular about quality this time around, but after SCU being less than favorable and Gens being just fine, I don't really have that high of expectations for it
I could be really hyped when/if it does get revealed, but still
i mean they are raising expectations by the second
and i dont think gens was just fine tf we got shadow gens
first things first it would not be a remaster
I mean the remaster on its own
yea cuz they put their effort into shadow gens
Shadow Gens was great
yea, and i imagine sonic heroes remake being like shadow gens but even better
consider me optimistic
And I wanna think that too, but the thing is that we don't have a good idea on who's going to be the director, lead game designer, or anything + this is going to be their first remake of a 3d Sonic game ever and I don't know how they're going to do with that
At least with Frontiers 2 we can guess that Kishimoto is going to be working as the director again, but there's no telling how this supposed Heroes remake is going to pan out
And as someone who fully does not like Heroes, there's nowhere they can really go but up in terms of the actual game-feel, but still
hm
Again, I would be so shocked if the Super Monkey Ball mobile game did get picked up after seeing Banana Rumble selling like 10 copies
I am sure it sold fine, just not the IP that SEGA expect to be like a major hit compared to Sonic/Persona/Yakuza
I'm exaggerating ofc
Besides, it's hard to predict what Sega will do with Super Monkey Ball
Since its a weird middle line between being not utterly niche, but also nowhere touching the big hits like Sonic, Persona, and Yakuza
Yeah there is that
But at least you have better hope than me. I am just coping for anything phantasy star that is not NGS related

pretty sure stadium is soccer strikers
i wanna stop believing there will be a heroes remake but ryan's tweet...
The unreal engine angle ended up happening with Sonic Team working on crossworlds, but even when he was leaking stuff the whole drama between him and zippo was whether the heroes remake had even started development past internal discussions
true but he seemed positive here
guess that would make sense for a movie 4 window release... but he clearly said 2025 a few months later
there was an interview not so long ago with someone from sega where they mentioned that the next "big" thing for sonic will be seen in tga
it was in like january
sooo... 2025 TGA?
crossworlds: october/november 2025
(heroes remake) : early 2026
frontiers 2 : november 2026
coping
most likely
also I thought crossworld will release in november
it looks more like a june or july release
but it was in december
he was talking of 2024 TGA
he was talking of crossworlds lmao
interview was posted on dec 13
Davih....
it was recorded before TGA so

well so crossworlds is supposed to be the next level... or at least part of it
heroes remake coming guys believe it
I really doubt crossworld is next level
like, I suppose it'll do nice but lets be honest
once mk9 releases is pretty much joever
they might aswell release it way earlier to get people to mess around
specially since it has crossplay
it can't risk sharing the same release window as mk9
yea
We'll find out soon enough if MK is releasing with the switch or not
the new switch might release for christmas so
3 more week...
summer would be good
may-july
crossworld?
switch
a
crossworlds october/nov
Anything involving Zippo is meaningless. He was getting information from Ryan second hand through Tailsguy, so he is just an aggregate and adds nothing of value
Ryan could be bullshitting on it tbh
Or doing an educated guess
They want to do multiple of those, so who knows
🧐
By how things usually go that would make 0 sense
It was revealed in January, with a direct 3 months away. Judging by switch 1s pipeline, an early Summer release makes the most sense.
As for crossworlds, what about August/September? It isn't too late in the year and without knowing the switch 2s game pipeline, gives it time to breathe
I honestly expect switch 2 releasing more at summer honestly
If i had to bet specifics, I'd say early June.
SEGA has filed a new trademark for the following image.
What could it possibly be
Source: https://t.co/747U85Lq6F
Chat???
Sonic Blitz incoming??
it looks like sonic and friends icon
nah
It's from a Uekawa stock render
how are you even found out exact render this fast
From xitter
Probably something for merch branding or whatever
https://vxtwitter.com/tmark365/status/1899732359618220090 what did sega mean by this
出願日:2025-03-04
出願人:株式会社セガ,SEGA CORPORATION
区分:第9類(機械器具),第14類(貴金属) ほか7
商品役務:家庭用テレビゲーム機用プログラム ほか386
OCRテキスト2:
続き https://chizai-watch.com/t/2025022616 https://t.co/iAICKkkaDo
NOOOOO
What even is this
Farewell Sonic, forever
uh ok
Rest in Peace, Sonic
reason of death: he pissed off Shadow a little too much
i think its actually sour the solenodon from behind
YESSSSSSSSS
here’s your SEGA all stars game
oh my god ANOTHER ONE?!?!?!
Ah
tenner its the same one going through dev hell
trying desperately to make football interesting, to no avail
Lmao
wait spectrevincible how did you even find this it’s 7 days old with less than 20 likes 😭
a british who doesn't like football
crazy
the only other trademark was sonic stadium
maybe they switched to sega?
so they could include sega characters
or maybe... it's a console game...
meant to replace mario strikers...
Heroes Remake, Frontiers 2, Chao Guardians, Sega FC Champions... Hop on the HYPE TRAIN, no tickets needed
Well if they're Apple Arcade and Netflix maybe they won't have microtransactions...
Well obviously they won’t
But is that what’s worth being hyped about now?
Adless mobile games?
I like football sorry...
but soccer
A football game starring Sonic & Yakuza characters would be so peak...
No please I need all of these to release




