Sonic Leaks, Rumours & Speculation

[alpine wasp]

Interesting

thx

But this got me thinking, if they are going to do a heroes remake, will they be like expanding the story in some sort?

Like outside of well Shadow coming back

[wide portal]

Cream*

[alpine wasp]

actually i don't

er what?

[wide portal]

They’ve forces-ified the Chaotix already

same with Metal

[alpine wasp]

Oh wait yeah you right LOL

I forgot about Forces

[dawn pumice]

I think they are gonna add a new team or two in all honestly

Same story but like a new branch or two

[alpine wasp]

Yeah at least to stand out compared to the original

[dawn pumice]

I’m moreso interested in this

Will the cgi cutscenes be in game this time???

Cuz if it’s on UE5, they def wanna show off their technical shit

[alpine wasp]

Honestly? I'll say it'll be like how SXSG handled things

[dawn pumice]

And I doubt Marza gonna be doing every team intro cutscene

[alpine wasp]

But of course more budgets

[alpine wasp]

Bro you are way too late for that man

i hadn't thought about it so far

[torn trench]

Well Marza's busy with the movies, right? Or is that a different studio?

[alpine wasp]

BUT

If the game's in UE5

maybe they'd have to make new models???

Marza I am pretty sure is free for heroes remake

hmm

[dawn pumice]

They usually have teams doing cgi and stuff for the games

[alpine wasp]

I can't really answer that pepito

[dawn pumice]

Was happening during sonic 2 and frontiers

[alpine wasp]

Not sure how model works for different engine

[dawn pumice]

same thing with the shadow generations cgi stuff

[wide portal]

I don’t think it’d be much of a hassle to just port those models over

[alpine wasp]

nah it wouldn't anyways

Just instead actually using them again

[wide portal]

If we get new models I think it’s more likely they show up in Frontiers 2 rather than a Heroes remake

[alpine wasp]

Yeah I feel like Frontiers 2 makes more sense for new models

BUT

[wide portal]

Three nickels

[alpine wasp]

If Frontiers 2 is UE5

Because Frontiers 2 is no doubt going to be a FAR bigger game than Heroes remake

[torn trench]

Right

[alpine wasp]

Heroes remake you can easily get away reusing assets

They might've started working on the models before Heroes remake

[atomic cave]

Oh these remakes are gonna break ppl

[alpine wasp]

so maybe Heroes remake might just take the models from UE5 Frontiers 2

[dawn pumice]

I mean they have all the team models now cuz of generations

[wide portal]

we don’t know if Frontiers 2 is UE5

[alpine wasp]

Honestly heroes remake is going to be a massive game changer for anyone really lmao

[dawn pumice]

We got big and omega now

[alpine wasp]

Because I don't think we ever had an ACTUAL sonic remake

[atomic cave]

Model, writing, voice acting, game design, art style, every single fandom rally point...

[torn trench]

But I do wonder when or if they'll make new models for this game specifically
Probably not

[dawn pumice]

Nope

[alpine wasp]

I was gonna say if Heroes 2 is UE5, Frontiers 2 will certainly be

[dawn pumice]

This would be the first sonic remake

[alpine wasp]

BUT

[dawn pumice]

In over 35 years 😭

[alpine wasp]

YEAH YOU RIGHT!

[wide portal]

and if the frontiers 2 models have significant enough differences, they may want to save their reveal for the game proper

[alpine wasp]

NOT EVEN A 2D REMAKE LMAO

Bro that's fucking insane

LaD Ishin is UE and Infinite Wealth is Dragon Engine

so

Like how the fuck this series has 0 remakes?

💀

erm

it has sonic 1 on gba

[torn trench]

No money

[alpine wasp]

That doesn't count

[alpine wasp]

True

[dawn pumice]

No money = no remakes

[alpine wasp]

But at the same tiem it's just insane when you think of it

[dawn pumice]

Still

Sonic heroes was the best choice for a remake

[alpine wasp]

Yeahhhh

[dawn pumice]

Especially to cater to a general gaming audience

[alpine wasp]

Brooo

[dawn pumice]

Every single person now grew up with heroes

[alpine wasp]

Sonic's model and voice are gonna kill me

the voice can be avoided

[dawn pumice]

Doing adventure and adventure 2 is a literal death sentence

[alpine wasp]

but the model?

[wide portal]

This might be a nightmare actually lmfao

[alpine wasp]

UGHHHHHH

SA1/SA2 has to be after Frontiers 2 honestly

[torn trench]

Plus it'll be a palette cleanser ig after Frontiers and Shadow Gens tone wise

[alpine wasp]

It's part of why I didn't like him in ShG

Like he's ugly as shit

Both SA1/SA2 a far bigger scaled

[cunning echo]

YOU are ugly

[dawn pumice]

I think heroes has a lot more moving parts

[alpine wasp]

Caps 💀

[dawn pumice]

But adventure and 2 is just too fragile to mess with

[alpine wasp]

So you like the Classic-ified model huh

Yeah another thing it helps is that Heroes is never been ported

you fake modern bro

[atomic cave]

SA1/2 remakes would have the benefit of having a much larger audience willing to defend it tooth and nail

[alpine wasp]

fuck off

[grand cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[cunning echo]

he modern as hell

[atomic cave]

Heroes the kind of game niches are formed around

[cunning echo]

plus fuzzy fur like adventure sonic

[alpine wasp]

Kishimoto said they wanted him to look more like Classic

ain't talking of the texture

just the shape

[cunning echo]

erm

he said he wanted a mix of both the cuteness of classic and the badass of modern

[alpine wasp]

yeah

[cunning echo]

[alpine wasp]

big issue

[atomic cave]

Nah

[alpine wasp]

now he has none of them

that's what you get when you compromise too much

[dawn pumice]

U know what I’m excited for tho

Roger as Neo Metal

[alpine wasp]

you also get superstars

forces

[cunning echo]

superstars is fully classic tho

[alpine wasp]

finally a fitting role!!

[cunning echo]

no modern in there

[alpine wasp]

Honestly Roger would fit MUCH better for neo metal

He has the perfect voice tone for neo metal

it's definitely part of what a compromise is

[plush moth]

Honestly? Yea

[wide portal]

It’s gonna be Ray Chase

[alpine wasp]

except it's franchise-scaled

[wide portal]

or whoever played Metal Overlord in ShGens

[plush moth]

lemme see

[torn trench]

It was Chase

[alpine wasp]

It should be Ray Chase

why doesn't he have the filter in ShGens

the voice filter

he sounds like an orc

or an ogre

not like a robot

[torn trench]

Didn't update the firmware

[plush moth]

Ray Chase played him

[alpine wasp]

with the filter it should be better

Yeah the lack of filter did not help

[plush moth]

Oh Leaph and sgm alr said it

[alpine wasp]

he sounds like someone trying to scare children

[dawn pumice]

I’m just more interesting in how tf the gameplay is gonna be

[torn trench]

I thought he sounded fine

[alpine wasp]

like "bouaaaargh i'm the evil monster from the mountain!!!"

Yeah the gameplay is going to be very interesting

[alpine wasp]

bro you like roger

[grand cobalt]

That isn’t roger

[alpine wasp]

your opinion is irrelevant

Bro Roger is a great VA

He is just not a good Sonic

[torn trench]

You crashed out because of a baby bruh

[alpine wasp]

Word things better man

💀

[dawn pumice]

I mess with Roger a lot

[plush moth]

I personally thought he was a good Sonic, but Frontiers was probably his best

[dawn pumice]

Kirk I wasn’t a fan of at first, but shadow generations changed my mind

[grand cobalt]

Nah say it with your full chest

[alpine wasp]

didn't think you thought the same as me

[plush moth]

guys stop fighting pls

[alpine wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-reicartier-reaction-bloodcartier-gif-22306737

Again

I always loved Roger

[torn trench]

Ig if I say Jason was my favorite, I don't count either huh

[alpine wasp]

But I was never been a fond of his portrayal over Sonic

I don't think he is like say "bad"

[alpine wasp]

okay

your opinion is relevant

[torn trench]

Nah shut up

[plush moth]

Jason, is a close 2nd

[torn trench]

Anyways

[grand cobalt]

How did we get to this again

[alpine wasp]

who's your favorite

But yeah as for what fiery said earlier

[plush moth]

Roger (frontiers)

[alpine wasp]

I feel like there is going to be a lot of....... stuff the fans are going to say over the gameplay

[torn trench]

Yeah I thought Chase as Metal without the filter sounded fine

[alpine wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiryu-punch-kuze-video-game-gif-17689093

[plush moth]

Now you can kill me.

[sick bobcat]

I always believe Roger is a good Sonic
its just the inconsistant voice direction irks me sometimes lol

[alpine wasp]

he didn't sound like a robot

wasn't as menacing imo

[alpine wasp]

Agreed

But after with kirk I have faith in roger

He is just not there yet

[cunning echo]

we went from heroes remake to models to roger voice acting

💀

[alpine wasp]

Yeah thanks fucking pepito

Like can we at least go back to Heroes talk?

[grand cobalt]

We just need to talk about momentum and we hit the 3 sonic discourse pillars

[alpine wasp]

only if freeze shows up

[sick bobcat]

I mean
Roger will 100% voice Sonic in the remake, inevitably the conversation will involve him haha

[alpine wasp]

OH yeah speaking of

[alpine wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-gif-11399444358411290094

Fix that fucking rocket accel

Because holy fuck

he just doesn't fit the role imo

I hate it so much in heroes

it's like putting colleen in his place

[grand cobalt]

I haven’t played heroes

[alpine wasp]

she will never fit it

same here

[plush moth]

Same here

[dawn pumice]

inb4 it’s now a boost button

[alpine wasp]

I am fine with it

even with the direction™ it didn't work (to me)

er.......

Sonic and Shadow suree

Espio and Amy tho?

Kirk on the other hand

[sick bobcat]

Rocke Accel was trying to combine spin dash and boost into one move
and it sucked

[alpine wasp]

Definitely had the fitting voice

It indeed was a matter of direction

Then again

Amy can't do wall jump in heroes so

[grand cobalt]

Oh yeah heroes had that 3D wall jump

[alpine wasp]

It was very fun to do honestly

maybe she will able to

[plush moth]

Kill me if you want, nothing will change my opinion

[grand cobalt]

I remember during forces there was a leak that said the triangle jump would return

[alpine wasp]

bro If I read that I would be like, "dude did not played heroes"

[plush moth]

It did

[lunar trench]

Ik vas are important stuff n all, but after shadow gens i realizedd that as long as they make good game idgaf, i can still put the game in another language

[alpine wasp]

yeah

[atomic cave]

It'd be based if they threw the old vas a bone tho

[alpine wasp]

i'll play every game with sonic as the main character in jp

[alpine wasp]

Well outside of certain VAs

as long as roger dubs him

[plush moth]

Kinda hope they do tbh

[plush moth]

Outside of some

[alpine wasp]

maybe i'll play the three other campaigns in english

but i'll definitely play the sonic one and the last one in jp

[alpine wasp]

Besides Eggman

😔

[alpine wasp]

i think it's just an english dub issue 😭

[atomic cave]

I really truly do not care about the Ryan drama

I don't even like him as a va

[grand cobalt]

by the way pepito if this turns out to be true and the modern voice cast is doing it, I will have to block you until further notice

[alpine wasp]

er not what I mean

[grand cobalt]

nothing personal

[alpine wasp]

cause french has been the same in x, games, prime 😭

I meant the ones that either died or becoming too old for voicing a younger char

[alpine wasp]

ive already accepted it

[plush moth]

Don’t mention prime.

[alpine wasp]

so i won't react much

except maybe some big UUUUUUUUURGGHHHHHHs here and there

[torn trench]

Wait so you keep up with the English dub even though you have other options available to you?

[lunar trench]

And sonic has been getting worse and worse

[grand cobalt]

I understand that but I don’t believe you in the slightest

[alpine wasp]

bro i was watching sonic x vf the other day he FELL OFF

[lunar trench]

IKR

[alpine wasp]

he was so fucking good

[lunar trench]

Yeahhhh

Mf sounds like bozo the clown now

[alpine wasp]

like almost Ryan/Jason good

Sonic char wise only ones I loved consistently are Shadow and Knuckles when it comes to VAs

it was just excellent

[alpine wasp]

NOOOOO

[grand cobalt]

Can you guys post a French sonic clip here

I wanna hear

[plush moth]

it’s ok I believe u

[alpine wasp]

I said it a few minutes earlier

Only fumbled part for me with Shadow is just Generations and Knuckles in TSR

But the rest? Always consistently

As long as Roger dubs Sonic, I'll play games that have Sonic as the MC in JP lmao (given that the JP script is good)

[torn trench]

I remember I wasn't the biggest fan of Humphrey's voice for Shadow, but I grew to like it over time

[sick bobcat]

deep voice Sonic turns people away
it sad :(

[plush moth]

I like it

feels more mature for Sonic ngl

[atomic cave]

"what did you say about my voice"

[torn trench]

Mmph

[grand cobalt]

Seeing as they’re using UE5 apparently

It’d be very sad if the heroes remake looked better than the next mainline

If they’re using HE2 likely

[alpine wasp]

eh.......... depends

[grand cobalt]

Yeah that’s why I said if

[sick bobcat]

Jason also talks with a soft deep voice for Sonic
though I guess that's easier on the ears for most people

[alpine wasp]

Since 1998, Sonic's had 6 different VAs: Jun'ichi, Ryan, Jason, Roger, Ben, Deven

Five of them are on the same voice spectrum (mostly)

[cunning echo]

we kinda forget that sonic games has always been hold graphics wise due to nintendo hardware

[grand cobalt]

guys can we do this another time I wanna talk about heroes

[atomic cave]

Junichi might be the most definitive but there are some parts of his acting that I don't like

[alpine wasp]

Yeah

[atomic cave]

Wait wym Nintendo?!?

[alpine wasp]

Perfection doesn't exist

But hey

[atomic cave]

PS2 is right there...

[alpine wasp]

always?

[alpine wasp]

Because Nintendo has weaker consoles

no

[sick bobcat]

bro forgot about Jaleel White and Martin Burke

[alpine wasp]

Only exception is during Gamecube/PS2/Xbox days

[plush moth]

perfectionists rolling on the ground rn

this ground hurts

[cunning echo]

the moment they made games exclusive to playstation and xbox it had a good jump (unleashed and generations) maybe it didnt have the super jump like playstation exclusives but the difference was still big

[untold kayak]

Roger locked in, goated

[alpine wasp]

right

It's why we never have graphics like Unleashed

[alpine wasp]

well in terms of sonic voic at least

[alpine wasp]

they voiced sonic prior to 1998 didn't they

[alpine wasp]

Switch 2 maybe...

[cunning echo]

Frontiers still looks good for the gen is in but you can tell lot of effects and such had to be cut just so it could run in a mobile hardware

[alpine wasp]

It's still amazed they managed to excel it very well with SXSG

[sick bobcat]

you're right, they voiced sonic before 1998

[alpine wasp]

But you can really tell they have to hold back

[atomic cave]

The way he says "smile" drives me up the wall and idk why 😭

[alpine wasp]

who? jason?

[atomic cave]

Junichi

[alpine wasp]

or junichi

oooh

when does he say that

[atomic cave]

06

[cunning echo]

shadow gens still looks really good but like, for me, shadow gens is like...the mario standard when it comes to graphics fidelity

like, shadow gens is pretty similar to odyssey

[untold kayak]

I think Junichi is very good but I don't like when he has to scream or make the character sound in pain

[alpine wasp]

Exactly yeah, davih

[untold kayak]

he sounds extremely fake to me

[alpine wasp]

To this day we don't really have a Sonic game that went to the levels like Unleashed visual wise

[cunning echo]

ehh

frontiers tho

[alpine wasp]

As of now SXSG is the closest

[alpine wasp]

O_O

Well I mean by ports in general

Since switch still holds it back at times

PS5 version of Frontiers still peaks tho when it comes to visuals

did you watch the cyber sonic scene in jp nova?

[untold kayak]

Yep, and that sounds fake to me

IDK something about Junichi's screams sound extremely forced/unnatural for me

[alpine wasp]

hmm okay

what would a heroes remake need in your opinions

Honestly? Just qols

I still hope they finally bring more classic chars into heroes but other than that

[untold kayak]

the biggest thing I would ask for a heroes remake is to work akin to Superstars

where you pick a team, play that level, you quit and can choose other team without losing your progress

[alpine wasp]

That's really it

[dawn pumice]

Team hooligan

That’s all I want

[untold kayak]

You still can have the campaigns, but this would allow the game to avoid replaying it four times artificially speaking

[dawn pumice]

And team superstars or whatever

[alpine wasp]

but wouldn't that make the game super short

Heroes to me is a type of game where you don't really need like say a rework while instead you can just add more

[atomic cave]

https://scontent.flex2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/125564229_10158823912887418_4999067266611826452_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=13d280&_nc_ohc=czEqd51JT4AQ7kNvgEX2bi2&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.flex2-1.fna&_nc_gid=AJFkSLnWdWxF69_5v8V11zp&oh=00_AYC8QOPv_rDCqMFztwQapXdsj8c73SxZpCRauDTQkPUEPQ&oe=676E0B8F

[alpine wasp]

tbf pepito

That was the main complaint of heroes

it has 14 stages

[untold kayak]

you can compensate by adding collectables and such within the levels, and you have the challenges in the extra modes so

[alpine wasp]

People do not like being forced playing the same game 4 times just for last story

14 stages of 4 minutes each

Hmmm

idk

[atomic cave]

Dinosaurs

[alpine wasp]

might be a bit too short imo

[atomic cave]

It needs dinosaurs

[alpine wasp]

How superstars handled worked very well

If they do 3 stages per area

it might be enough

[lunar trench]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxn2BPMvd-eL5LheQpzON1D7M4sJ59MxvM?si=mMavt4Sa4iq9YfGk

[alpine wasp]

Even so you got to bear in mind in terms of repetitive factor

but it'd me too much work

[lunar trench]

We don't hear sonix that much but we also hear amy so worth it

[atomic cave]

Oh god he says the entire thing

[lunar trench]

Yep

[untold kayak]

Wait, why is a smash player here?

[lunar trench]

"Of course i love you amy, i always have"

[atomic cave]

Well thank god it's just a dub...

[alpine wasp]

forever single me watching this scene

[untold kayak]

Another thing I would add is more cohesion between the levels

using sonic 3 & Knuckles, I would try to connect all the stages

across the narrative

[plush moth]

Being single is goated tho

[lunar trench]

Funny thing

It is the first dub

Even before japan

[alpine wasp]

better than being with the wrong person...

[atomic cave]

https://tenor.com/view/corgi-side-eye-corgi-judging-corgi-corgi-stare-dog-gif-8040169078397653655

[grand cobalt]

hey that’s pretty good

[alpine wasp]

🚬

[grand cobalt]

how does he sound now

[alpine wasp]

bruh I compltely forgot in the dub Sonic did say "I love you" in dub

[plush moth]

Yea fair

[alpine wasp]

Until I realize.......

It's 4kids LMAO

Like I am not even kidding

They did this shit SO hard with the Pokemon anime (Kanto-Johto)

So it does make sense they did the same thing with Sonic X too

Still funny af

[wide portal]

Comedy

[alpine wasp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZLoDi2mb_0 @lunar trench I like this one even if it sounds a bit like Roger

[lunar trench]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxQby0sQ157oG2Qwpn8jqNHuCX7nRLj5O-?si=yw3q7YkAXdijVW39

[alpine wasp]

(english subs are available)

[alpine wasp]

i'm gonna send kiryu scream.mp4 for the fifth time

[cunning echo]

💀

[lunar trench]

Nah bro the one just after

Is

Insanely cringe

Hold on

[atomic cave]

Oh..... oh.......

[lunar trench]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxeGSAqrMhuUuZVIsmZvYwhVGtr3-Fz-tz?si=fOjatCA3Yxk7OXVW

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I WANT MY SONIC BACK

https://tenor.com/view/amy-rose-cry-sonic-x-gif-4341246435041358312

[cunning echo]

oof

[alpine wasp]

flirting: h3ylow saying he wants his sonic back
harrassment: pepito saying he wants his sonic back

[cunning echo]

lmfao

[lunar trench]

For some reason he sounds like that

Like his voice is coming from his noise

All the fucking game

[grand cobalt]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWW

oh my god

[lunar trench]

Yeah

Same guy btw

[untold kayak]

Why he sounds like he breathed helium?

[lunar trench]

Same fucking guy

[untold kayak]

What happened?!

[alpine wasp]

The fuck is that direction?

[lunar trench]

That is a good question actually

Nobody knows

[alpine wasp]

https://youtu.be/m2OqCmucma4?si=diI-ZR37surCCxP_&t=728

i'm gonna kms

[atomic cave]

The reverse roger

[alpine wasp]

Nooooo

[lunar trench]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-crying-baby-celebrate-meme-gif-25564236

Record it pep

Nvm there you go

[untold kayak]

One day will have latin spanish voices

[untold kayak]

He sounds nice here

[alpine wasp]

oh i just finished recording it lmao

[lunar trench]

HE DOES

[alpine wasp]

thx

[lunar trench]

THAT'S WORST PART

HE KNOWS HOW TO DO SONIC

[alpine wasp]

unless a certain som- WHAT WHERE ARE YOU TAKING ME TO THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY

they did him dirty fr

with that french voice

[untold kayak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWaN1Ikh9zo

This is Marc Winslow (Sonic in Prime)'s take on Frontiers first cutscene (don't pay attention to the end, the end is in Spain Spanish)

[alpine wasp]

@lunar trench i wonder if alexandre still has it in him tho..

[lunar trench]

He still has steve

So idk

Well tbf it's easier to do steve

[alpine wasp]

WHAT

Spanish-speaking Roger???

[alpine wasp]

steve?

[untold kayak]

Nani?

[atomic cave]

Better than his Sonic X voice last I heard

[alpine wasp]

he sounds like roger

[lunar trench]

Steve roger

Captain america

[atomic cave]

Steve Rogers

[alpine wasp]

Oh

[untold kayak]

I didn't expect that, which is crazy since Marc is 26 years old

[alpine wasp]

But it's totally different

[lunar trench]

Ye cuz captain america and sonic have the same voice

[untold kayak]

just a year older than me

[alpine wasp]

age isn't everything WHEN IT COMES TO VOICE

[atomic cave]

buh

[alpine wasp]

LMAO

the worst out of context pepito screenshot would've been taken

if i hadn't edited

[untold kayak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj24-z_lUYs

You can hear him in Prime

If you wish a reference

[lunar trench]

THE SCREAM LMFAOOO

[lunar trench]

It might be me

[alpine wasp]

ok he sounds higher there

[lunar trench]

But they don't sound like they put any effort into it

[untold kayak]

Uh I will do a little asterisk and is that most of his screams are probably Deven's so oof

[lunar trench]

Their delivery sounds very monotonous

[wide portal]

LMFAOOOOOOOOO

you guys are fucked lmfao I’m so sorry 😭

[lunar trench]

we know...

The worst is that

Amy sounds fine

Tails sounds fine

Kuckles

Shadow

Eggman

But not sonic

[plush moth]

ew prime

[untold kayak]

just it's dubbing tests

don't give it much thought

[plush moth]

Oh alr

[cunning echo]

sonic voice acting in spanish has been really hit or miss

mostly miss ngl

lmfao

[plush moth]

LMFAOOO THE SCREAM😭

[cunning echo]

Only boom has like, a decent to good voice

[untold kayak]

Marc's good IMO

Oh and I'd rather avoid Memo Aponte, thank you

[lunar trench]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx0gDSeJMOWRy3e4w087LZsa-xueii5Rvl?si=CEvw_UCHz9rMkhh8

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxKktCsQ2MCQ6iKcFqQOZvjVwMjTF2KmjE?si=1Z_6p-Ur3LH1Uuu_

[untold kayak]

and I sadly don't like Luisito Comunica as movie Sonic

what I said about Junichi's screams applies to him but for the entire delivery for me

[lunar trench]

Oh believe me

Movie sonic in french ?

Fucking sucks

[untold kayak]

Fr?

[lunar trench]

Yes

"Fr" indeed

https://youtu.be/Vj_NTaN2hxI?feature=shared

Can't clip but yk

[untold kayak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpwop74ZYjo

[lunar trench]

Oh wow

OH WOW

😭

[atomic cave]

"Konichi-quaaa?!?"

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[lunar trench]

KKVDKIFABOAAOBQGONGQA

SHUT UP LMFAOO

[atomic cave]

Oh my god lol

[untold kayak]

BCISDSGCUSDYGCSUD

[lunar trench]

Tails has the og VA btw

But everyone else has their actors dubbing va

Eggman sounds great, curtil is a seasonned va

[untold kayak]

surprised?

[strange estuary]

Meanwhile people are mostly chill with the Brazilian dubbing in Sonic media.

[atomic cave]

Ok but he doesn't sound that different for someone to stand in for Ben imo

[lunar trench]

That's bad

[strange estuary]

Except Shadow's initial voice for S3, they had him replaced pretty recently.

[untold kayak]

The little big problem of hiring youtubers for dubs

[lunar trench]

Nah he does, genuinely

He misses the energy

You might not realise it

[untold kayak]

Like I don't mind star talents on themselves, but when it is youtubers, you truly can tell the difference between an actor and one that isn't 💀

[strange estuary]

Also wait, this is the rumours channel, what was the original topic?

[lunar trench]

Heroes

When would it be revealed

[untold kayak]

Our wishlist for the remake

and voice acting

[strange estuary]

Ah, I see how that turned into this.

[untold kayak]

Mhm

one thing lead to another in a very curious chain of events

[strange estuary]

My biggest wish is that they'd get to introduce a new kind of team TBH.

But four might be too much already, so I dunno.

[atomic cave]

Oh shit

Oh shit

That might be a way to get around the Amy problem actually

Bc the teams have to fight each other at some point

Swap Team Sonic with that team and boom

And give Team Sonic one of the scrapped bosses

[untold kayak]

Interesting idea

[strange estuary]

Out of the original teams they had in conception, they should 100% get the one with Mighty and Ray

[untold kayak]

add Trip

Oh! Another thing I would like is elaborate on the teams' contexts

like for example

why did Knuckles join the crew?

You can add that the master emerald gave him a vision of something terrible then he went to find Tails to warn him

Tails, by his side, obtained a card from Eggman when Knuckles arrives and both go to find Sonic

With team dark it would be why Eggman abandoned Omega and how Rouge got the data of 'the secret treasure' (it can be Eggman giving her the data to release Shadow on purpose so she can find a way to defeat Metal)

Team Rose you could display 'Sonic' taking away Froggy and Chocola, with only Vanilla being a witness.

[strange estuary]

Maybe.

Does she work as a Speed leader?

[untold kayak]

If she is with Ray and Mighty, probably

Mighty and her are interchangeable lol

[lunar trench]

Nah mighty is def strenght

[strange estuary]

Eh, I suppose she does. But I wonder how her abilities woudl be handled.

[wide portal]

heroes remake swooping in with the second plane (3D vanilla model)

[atomic cave]

The knuckles thing would definitely end up being explained, idk about the rest

It's always been a point of contention with Knuckles fans lol

Though his role might be solidified as Eggman's mailman as well

[strange estuary]

Big day for Vanilla fans.

[untold kayak]

it's just what I would like lol

[strange estuary]

I think the biggest issue present in Heroes' gameplay is the fact every team play through all the same zones and you need to finish all campaigns in order to beat the game.

I've been wondering how they'd solve that.

[untold kayak]

Just work it like superstars

[hexed wraith]

which we have

[atomic cave]

That's why I want them to bring back the classic Sonic formula of collecting all emeralds to unlock the final boss

[strange estuary]

You mean like... any classic game then.

[atomic cave]

They're right there and yet they're just another barrier in the way

[untold kayak]

I mean superstars particularily because you can change your character anytime without losing your progress

[atomic cave]

Ideally you should be able to play through any team once and be able to experience all of Heroes

Outside of their individual stories

[strange estuary]

Oh wait, that's right.

You can switch characters at any time in Superstars.

[untold kayak]

Mhm

and from there, the levels have the cutscenes and dialogue that correspond to each team

[strange estuary]

That sounds pretty good I think.

[untold kayak]

so from 5 stories, you only have to do 2 technically

like they are still 4 main stories and the final, but you'll make them more accessible

specially in replayability terms

[lunar trench]

God i don't even know what to think honestly

Cuz we're all agreeing that we shouldn't need to replay the game 4 times just to get to the end

[strange estuary]

If they didn't, it would be 5 times because we want a new team.

[hexed wraith]

Last Story is simply a thing that doesn’t work at scale

[lunar trench]

At this point why not make a giant campaign where you play the different teams

[strange estuary]

You can only imagine how dreadful that would be.

[lunar trench]

You play throught the game but you sometimes swap teams is what i mean

Kindz like how in 06 you play different characters throughout the game

[atomic cave]

That'd be superstars as opposed to 3&K, yeah

Superstars' exclusive character acts

[dawn pumice]

So u thinking different level design?

[hexed wraith]

Even in other games btw.

Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep has you playing through 3 equal-length campaigns and complete specific objectives within each before the Last Episode is available to play. It sucks there too

[untold kayak]

The thing is that in Heroes particularily, the gameplay varies so little that it becomes tedious to complete the game

sa1 for example, each character (except maybe tails) has different set of goals, gameplay, etc so it has variety

sa2 you play the same groups but it's condensed to just 2 stories (3 if you count the last one but that one is very short) and with different levels on each story, so there is variety

[dawn pumice]

Also don’t u need to get all 7 emeralds in each team too?

[hexed wraith]

Yes

[lunar trench]

Yes so my idea would be ideal

Of course you rework their gameplay

[hexed wraith]

guys

im not gonna lie

maybe this is why 06 tried the amigo system

[atomic cave]

Nah

[wide portal]

you know what i mean

[untold kayak]

It was to spice up the gameplay, yes

make it less monotonous

[hexed wraith]

well, that, plus, you get a bunch of extra playable characters without forcing players to do a whole campaign as them

[lunar trench]

Yep

[untold kayak]

Exactly. It had a good basis for that

[lunar trench]

That's what i said, it would be ideal

[hexed wraith]

sorry i just got here

[lunar trench]

Would you need to create new zones tho ?

Cuz then the game would be short

[untold kayak]

Hm if they can insert them naturally, be my guest

I won't mind more content

(obviously needs to be well done but you get the idea)

[lunar trench]

Yes i'm assuming

[strange estuary]

New Heroes zones would be interesting...

[atomic cave]

Until we know the scale of the remake it's going to remain kinda intangible for rn

[lunar trench]

Of course

[untold kayak]

mhm

[hexed wraith]

im canceling the remakes

[lunar trench]

Damn

Rip bozo then ig

[hexed wraith]

the funds will be put towards a rush compilation instead

[lunar trench]

Based ?

[hexed wraith]

playable marine will be a postgame unlockable for SRA

also the entire soundtrack will be remixed/remastered

with an option to use the original ost if you want

[lunar trench]

You could make use of the cd versions of the ost for rush

[alpine wasp]

reminds me of another dub

https://tenor.com/view/sonfys-shrek-gif-15350610703372212021

[atomic cave]

Not English thats for sure

We do not have that much fire 💔

[hexed wraith]

I see where you’re coming from. But I feel like people will wanna be #retro

maybe there should be 3 audio options

1. Remaster/Remix ost
2. Legacy (the cd versions of the ost)
3. DS Mode (exactly as you remember it)

[lunar trench]

Oh no i agree

As long as you have the option

[alpine wasp]

shadow, amy, tails, knux and eggman all sound at least fine in english imo

[untold kayak]

Sounds good

[atomic cave]

Nah

[alpine wasp]

Yeah

[atomic cave]

Mmm

[alpine wasp]

Nnn

[lunar trench]

https://youtu.be/XLStOGfJoBk?si=zyXfcLiWZu-PHLlZ

https://youtu.be/ZXtYKFBhHNM?si=rui7z4LcHXnGauOd

[atomic cave]

The apple arcade ports of these are going to be fire

[hexed wraith]

You saying this is almost on par with when you sent the “no way home” trailer

[lunar trench]

https://tenor.com/view/lucy-cyberpunk-edgerunners-squatting-gif-26793705

[atomic cave]

[untold kayak]

I'm sure if there is a rush port, there will be a slight rewrite

on Eggman N

[hexed wraith]

there better not be

[untold kayak]

(in this game he states he's from Blaze's dimension but later games like Rivals it is stated he comes from Silver's future, being a descendant of Eggman)

[atomic cave]

He's good at multitasking

[untold kayak]

I can hear Ian howling of annoyance at the idea of writing this Eggman

💀

[strange estuary]

They're gonna rewrite his name in dialogue for sure. 😭

[untold kayak]

Yep, that name is so close to being cancellable lmao

[lunar trench]

Eggman Zeta

[atomic cave]

They could just legit give him his official name

Kinda like how they gave Towers a name

I'm not Ivo, I'm ___

[strange estuary]

What fits?

[alpine wasp]

Polo Robotnik

[atomic cave]

Something german I guess

[alpine wasp]

Eggman Neo

[atomic cave]

Ivo and Gerald are both german

[alpine wasp]

that would do

Ivo Robotnik sounds very Eastern European imo

[strange estuary]

I don't know if they can change Eggman Nega.

That would be better for sure, but it might be a bit too late for that now.

[atomic cave]

Edgar Robotnik

[strange estuary]

[atomic cave]

[strange estuary]

I don't know if that's just me, but that's goofy sounding.

[untold kayak]

[atomic cave]

Gero Robotnik?

Gottfried Robotnik

[lunar trench]

Too similar to...

Yk

[atomic cave]

Oh but that's perfect tho

[strange estuary]

I like that, reminds me of Gerald Robotnik.

[atomic cave]

Sonic is never one to shy away from blatant inspriation

[strange estuary]

Which might be the intention.

[atomic cave]

Gunter

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-penguins-gunther-adventure-time-adventure-time-penguin-adventure-time-gif-15831021612928694716

Hugo Robotnik

There he is

Linus Robotnik

Otto Robotnik

[lunar trench]

💀

[atomic cave]

Viktor Robotnik

Walter

Xaver Robotnik is the closest you can get to Z without diving into the feminine names

Some of these names are so unfortunate

[cunning echo]

[alpine wasp]

Viktor Robotnik sounds good

[atomic cave]

Then again maybe someone would turn into Eggman Nega if he had the name Wigbert!

[untold kayak]

Ian would rather have Eggman Nega be Eggman No More Time Alive

:v

[atomic cave]

He must face his destiny....

And the robotnik family drama is about to be expanded upon too

We're about to make history with this one

Robotnik legacy history...

[hushed carbon]

right, theres no way they're not gonna introduce that maria has a sister all of a sudden and then do nothing with it

[scarlet ether]

Guess who’s back on the Sonic leaking game…

https://vxtwitter.com/ryanfrombronx/status/1861219575490134073

[lunar trench]

Brother

[raw ether]

We knew since two days ago lol

[scarlet ether]

That’s Midori btw so keep your expectations low

[lunar trench]

💀

Pichu you are way too late

[lunar trench]

Don't forget that infos in this server are

Always talked about

Within an hour

[scarlet ether]

It just popped into my Twitter Timeline

[raw ether]

Four words: Scroll up or search.

[toxic vapor]

Hey pookies

From what I've heard, Shadow Gens essentially stole a lot of Kishimoto's team (which was probably why Update 1-3 while fun, you could tell didn't have top tier budget), so I'm guessing their being sent into Frontiers 2

[raw osprey]

uhhhh not exactly

while there are some developers who worked on frontiers most of the team are pretty new

like theres 9 level designers and only 2 worked on frontiers i think

[lunar trench]

2 or 3 yeah

And that's counting the chief level designer

So that's still not nothing

Ig they stole important people

And rest were trainees

Being trained to work on future sonix titles

[alpine wasp]

So let's recap the recent rumors

-(most likely) Sonic Heroes remake in 2025
-Frontiers 2 in 2026
-Some announcement on Dec 30th

did i miss something?

[loud zinc]

???

[dawn pumice]

Check #movies

[loud zinc]

I am following just dosing know what that reaction was to

[dawn pumice]

I didn’t realize we were talking about the pink haired girl in movies so I posted it in before

Forgot to delete the first message

[dawn pumice]

Wait

Wasn’t heroes released December 30th?

[raw ether]

In Japan, yes

[dawn pumice]

https://x.com/instantreplay17/status/1861799992060510444?s=46&t=EM8a3Wv0lBB7zx0cD8uHcw

Talxic (دندوري マスター) (@InstantReplay17) on X

Ight so lets connect some dots, sonic heroes rival boss theme gets released as a single on spotify with a grand metropolis album cover, this woman gets teased again with december 30th as a date on the digital billboard, december 30th is sonic heroes’ original release date.

Twitter · Nov 27, 2024, 3:51 PM

The only thing that’s insanely weird is the Spotify single

[mint umbra]

are we talking here now about this

[dawn pumice]

I’m talking about it here cuz I think it might be connected to heroes

But up to y’all where to talk about it

[mint umbra]

i just dont see it connecting to heroes because like

[raw ether]

I hate to say it: there’s another random song release now

[grand cobalt]

what now

[untold kayak]

What?

[atomic cave]

https://open.spotify.com/album/18TZC3JOx7l7krpLDw8dbR?si=IdwtgGF-SPGvVSUDGgZSnw

Whuh

[grand cobalt]

The RIVER

[wide portal]

The river

(MR)

[mint umbra]

guys i think anyone can just say sonic the hedgehog worked on their song

[untold kayak]

💀

[mint umbra]

bc this makes no sense otherwise

[wide portal]

This song is so weird

oh my god.

it’s a country song.

IM GONNA KILL SOMEONE

[untold kayak]

Sonic fans when country:

[mint umbra]

and like, for every official sonic track, sonic is just mentioned in the album credits, no specific song credits

[lunar trench]

in a DESERTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[mint umbra]

bc that goes to composers

[untold kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/white-women-screaming-losing-my-mind-gif-22869947

/jk

[mint umbra]

so yeah this means nothing lol

[wide portal]

who the fuck is in the album photo 😭

[mint umbra]

i think its a guy doing homework

and that heroes track is literally a picture of the screen taken from a phone of grand metropolis

[wide portal]

oh my god is this CHRISTIAN COUNTRY

[mint umbra]

this is not official in any way shape or form lmao

...i think

idk how spotify works

[raw ether]

Someone gotta contact SEGA to get those songs removed from the artist page

[strange estuary]

IDK how Spotify works either to conclude that this isn't official.

I mean, well, the country song definitely isn't.

[mint umbra]

ignoring that part though, i really cant see how a new human character would fit into a heroes remake??

is she playable??? does she roll???

does she pick up other characters and throws them??

[strange estuary]

They're not saying she will be in a Heroes remake.

[hushed carbon]

we havent really had a playable human character bar eggman and i dont think thats gonna change soon, at most she's an npc

[strange estuary]

They're simply connecting the dots.

Which if you do, it's definitely a little odd how it kind of adds up to Heroes.

Pretty weird coincidence when the rumours of a Sonic Heroes remake are going on.

[alpine wasp]

the biggest clue imo is the codename

guinness

[mint umbra]

what do you think the codename is referring to if its a big clue?

[last idol]

So just to clarify I’ve been at work all day but pink hair lady is real and is in the background of movie 3? What the fuck is happening 😭

[strange estuary]

To the fact Sonic Heroes is the game to win a guinness world record.

[untold kayak]

Sonic Heroes has the guiness record of the platformer with the biggest amount of playable characters

[mint umbra]

YEAH

[last idol]

💀💀

[mint umbra]

WITH A DATE

[last idol]

Holy shit

[mint umbra]

12.30.24

[untold kayak]

Just like, for example, SXSG has Miller as codename and that refers to Tim Miller who is a producer of the movies.

Both also make reference to an alcoholic drink

[mint umbra]

i guess in case that this guy isnt lying out of his ass, yeah that makes sense

[alpine wasp]

this exactly @mint umbra

I wouldn't trust Midori/Ryan for anything that isn't Sega

But as Sega stuff goes? He's solid

[strange estuary]

As much as I don't like Mystic, they unfortunately have the right credibility when it comes to Sega leaks.

[mint umbra]

i would just really prefer not to take his word into consideration, regardless of track record

i think giving his words any light of day is bad

[alpine wasp]

am i missing something

the larping sucked but i don't think it's a big deal

[strange estuary]

There's stuff beyond that.

So yeah.

[alpine wasp]

Oh

Okay

[mint umbra]

dude he was sexually harassing people 😭

[alpine wasp]

WHAT

Oh shit

[mint umbra]

and trespassed on private company property to get his leaks too, reportedly

[plush moth]

What the fuck?

[alpine wasp]

Oh

Wow

[raw ether]

Mystic or Midori?

[ocean hollow]

Both are the same

[raw ether]

Ah

[strange estuary]

I always call them Mystic so it can be known who they really are.

They suck.

Anyhow, yeah that Sonic Heroes remake is happening.

The announcement date is just a funny coincidence.

[last idol]

Yeah I don’t think it’s related to heroes remakes at least specifically

But it is kind of wild because it’s pretty outside Segas usual marketing window

[mint umbra]

unless guinness refers to one of the other guinness world record holding sonic games

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-wii-snap-fire-secret-rings-gif-14767901

[last idol]

I just need to know who she is 😭

Like post shadow gens I was convinced she is another Robotnik but

This is a lot of viral marketing for like a side human character idk

[mint umbra]

i did mean secret rings btw its in the 2012 guinness world records book lol

[last idol]

Tbh I would take a secret rings remake

[mint umbra]

as the "Best-Selling Third-Party Wii Platformer"

[dawn pumice]

I still don’t know how mystic still gets his info 💀

[mint umbra]

which is very specific but

so is "most playable characters in a platform game"

and also i think that this record prob isnt true by this point anyway

nvm it is

[dawn pumice]

But I will say that tho, the heroes remake does exist in some sort of way

[last idol]

Yeah companies usually pay Guinness to come up with a record they can go for - they’re essentially a marketing company first and foremost

[mint umbra]

yea

it could mean literally any game at this point

"First Sonic videogame for a third-party platform" if i wanna pretend it has to be an sa2 remake

[last idol]

Yeah exactly

That’s why there’s always kind of weird and specific

[mint umbra]

nvm guys this is about a sonic 06 remake for holding the record "Worst-rated Sonic the Hedgehog videogame"

(is that still true)

[dawn pumice]

Still tho

I def believe that remake is heroes

Don’t think it can be anything else

[last idol]

I’m fairly convinced it is real yeah

[strange estuary]

Codename: Sonic Failure

[last idol]

I’m still not 100% sold on it being next year

[mint umbra]

they literally have over 100 pages of search results for "sonic" on their site

(most of that is speedruns or highest scores though)

[dawn pumice]

I’m pretty convinced it’s next year

Way too many things we missed / glossed over

[mint umbra]

its a remake of the lost world legend of zelda DLC (it holds the "First Sonic/Zelda crossover" world record)

[mint umbra]

ok nvm its just their site being broken

but yea a lot of random specific sonic world records in there

[strange estuary]

Did they ever say anything about that?

Other than it being uh, listed of course.

[alpine wasp]

isn't it boom

but the record heroes has is a relevant record imo

[mint umbra]

is it

its kinda random

and likely has been beaten already

(hell it likely was already beaten if you look hard enough i think)

[alpine wasp]

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/87861-most-playable-characters-in-a-platform-videogame idk it's still here lmao

it's not a Sonic-related ercord

it's an industry scale record

so

[strange estuary]

Well, the thing is why else would they name it Guinness?

[wise chasm]

Beer

🍺

[strange estuary]

Hmm.

I guess that exists according to Google search.

[prime hearth]

wait

guinness... guinness the beer is irish.....

its HIS TIME

[mint umbra]

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/109416-shortest-release-time-for-a-sports-videogame mobile 2010 olympic winter games remake lets gooo

[prime hearth]

this is so funny considering you have to pay to apply for a guiness world record

like getting a solid gold frame to put your parking ticket in

[mint umbra]

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/117509-first-wii-u-videogame-to-use-cryengine-software ROL REMAKE REALLL

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/87857-best-selling-retro-videogame-compilation MEGA COLLECTION PLUS PLUS!!!!

ok i was looking at these records

and

apperantly yuji naka made the first dating sim video game??????????

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/99325-first-dating-simulator

its true too

after looking it up

[hybrid hill]

hello

i forgot this was a thing

[lunar trench]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-insanity-gif-11218311201018181051

[smoky summit]

He knew what's up

A true pioneer

[pulsar horizon]

Speaking of Jack https://x.com/jacksepticeye/status/1861818120454696968?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ

Jacksepticeye (@Jacksepticeye) on X

I have officially been diagnosed with Autism. I had an assessment a couple of weeks ago about it and got the confirmation today.

Twitter · Nov 27, 2024, 5:03 PM

[strange estuary]

Irish the Hedgehog is autistic.

Oh no.

[zinc spear]

One of my kind now

[forest fractal]

hell yeah sean

[strange estuary]

(I don't know what he's even replying to.)

[strange estuary]

Oh, that's Max.

Makes sense.

[forest fractal]

Yeah

[wide portal]

Good for him

[alpine wasp]

Yessss!!!!

[plush moth]

Welcome to the autism club my brother

[forest fractal]

he wont see that from here

[alpine wasp]

if heroes remake has team idw with tangle bibo and pumble (that's what i think idw characters are called) i'm going to become the joker

[wide portal]

hey you got 1/3 right you’re improving!

[plush moth]

a team with tangle, whisper, and jewel could work

Team Spiral?

[hushed carbon]

Surge and Kit would be nice too, too bad they dont have a third

[plush moth]

if IDW had kept the goat alive they would have a third

[alpine wasp]

I hereby swear an oath here

If there's Team IDW, I ain't giving one cent to Sega for this game

[hushed carbon]

...?

[plush moth]

Pepito hates IDW

[hushed carbon]

ohhh

[plush moth]

At least that’s what I got

[lunar trench]

(He never read idw past issue 4)

[alpine wasp]

Pepito is there a reason why you hate IDW?

Otherwise

[plush moth]

damn didn’t have to do him like that😭

[hushed carbon]

well, i dont think theres any need to fret cause any team idw isnt gonna happen cause itd contradict the timeline or something

[alpine wasp]

IDW takes place after forces anyways so

IDW on its own I don't really care

And plus there is never an actual sonic timeline

But IDW in my games?

[hushed carbon]

i mean heroes definitely happens before forces

[alpine wasp]

But at the same time they can "reintroduce" the IDW chars that are still popular enough

Woke

Bitch

THIS IS SEGA MAN!

THE MOST WOKE COMPANY

WHAT ARE YOU ON BRO!?

I'm sorry but anytime I keep seeing "SEGA became woke" I will always laugh my ass off over that LOL

[plush moth]

The day someone calls that woke is the day I decide humanity should perish

[alpine wasp]

Pepito

It's fucking SEGA

If you are annoyed SEGA is woke then don't be a SEGA fan

[hushed carbon]

you know who isnt woke?

ariem

cause she's asleep

[plush moth]

https://tenor.com/view/aaronpaul-aaron-paul-cry-crying-gif-7621646

[forest fractal]

shes clearly awake

[untold kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[torn trench]

I'd wake her up

[forest fractal]

everyones asleep and then she arises

[plush moth]

how

[lunar trench]

I feel like joke might be going a little too far i'm ngl

[forest fractal]

so if everyone wakes up does she sleep?

[plush moth]

How would you wake her up Leaph

[plush moth]

😭

[alpine wasp]

Ewww

Weirdo

[torn trench]

Literally don't wanna hear that from you😭

[alpine wasp]

You're talking about waking up a sleeping woman

[plush moth]

We can’t let Leaph get to the Reverie

[alpine wasp]

with a "freakiii" sticker

wait

is that supposed to be a reference to dakiii

[plush moth]

Put up 20 armies around it, 20 armies for each direction, have people who’s arrows never miss

[torn trench]

No it's iiidw

https://tenor.com/view/dog-hypnotizing-hypnotizing-dog-hyptonizing-you-hypnotizing-you-собака-гипнотизирует-gif-14437882061713379771

[hushed carbon]

what's ariem's role in dream team anyway, does anyone know 💀

is she like, lumina flowlight v2

[plush moth]

just to fucking guide Team Sonic through the Reverie

[torn trench]

She controls the dream realm

[plush moth]

Oh yea that too

[hushed carbon]

...?! okay literal npc moment brother!!

not even a damsel in distress kinda thing?

[forest fractal]

Well she did kick out Eggman by the end

[alpine wasp]

It's not Team Sonic

[torn trench]

Nah

[forest fractal]

She was an orb in distress

[alpine wasp]

It's Dream Team...

[plush moth]

DAMNIT

[forest fractal]

and i think Ariem did got nabbed by the Guardian Hunter iirc