#Sonic Movie

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ember talon
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Origami King isn't anything better either

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Origami king is in this weird middle ground

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between the last games and the old ones

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so to the fans it is far more frustrating

dusky garnet
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There is a lot of weirs love for color splash nowdays

sturdy token
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because it's clear they have the intention but they either don't want or can't

mossy imp
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Hopefully the thousand year door remake helped Nintendo to get why people love that series

ember talon
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I hope so too

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Because good god Paper Mario needs an actual redemption

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Origami King did try but even then.... it's not enough

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brothership tho while I have issues with the game it did a good job trying to bring the series back

sturdy token
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Yeah. I'd say brothership got a better hang of mario & luigi as a franchise

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it's not perfect but it's more adequate if it makes any sense

ember talon
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essentially yeah

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which is something I hope Paper Mario got in a way

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At least something like brothership over what made the series well appeal while being fresh ane new

dusky garnet
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Now that Thousand Year Door is the norm again

sturdy token
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Yeah Nintendo cannot go back to the sticker star-origami king type of games after the port of thousand year door

ember talon
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Yeah teh reeception shows a huge difference

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It's not even just nostalgia, people really love TTYD and they don't over the newer games for a reason

dusky garnet
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TTYD is just a really charming game

sturdy token
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even Super Paper Mario would've been better received

ember talon
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Like at first I thought it's just paper mario fans just being all bias

sturdy token
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than either of the three recent

ember talon
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But after playing the switch version I can legit understand why

dusky garnet
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Honestly what i want next is for prtners to have more banter between eachother

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Than just switch around most of the time

ember talon
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YES!

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I would love that a lot

dusky garnet
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And focusing on just mario and one partner

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I want everyone to be involved at once

ember talon
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That's one of the main thing I love about rpgs. Hoping they'll do that too

high anvil
ember talon
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spice ember
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median sequoia
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Godzilla v Kong 3 is probably beating both films out if one of em doesn’t move btw.

median sequoia
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YESSIR

But yeah, People like Link, and I’m sure Nintendo fans/legend of Zelda fans have good pull when it comes to the movies if we’re going by factors of the Mario movie’s success.

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But Link ain’t no damn Mario is what I’m saying, despite his popularity.

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People still call him/think he’s Zelda, so it’s a matter of how much appeal they can get from the general public with whatever casting decisions they do.

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But it does have the advantage of being a “new” IP, and a jumping on point rather than being a sequel like Sonic or GVK. Who are both building out sagas atm ig. Which is a bit harder to ask people to tune in for, if they aren’t caught up with the other stuff.

spice ember
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woah what the hell

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dude when did you come back 😭

ivory loom
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I mean the Mv is popular, but it isn’t Sonic or Zelda levels of popular

median sequoia
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It’s not so much of a monster verse thing as much as it’s a Godzilla thing in this case

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If he’s attached, it’s just gonna sell fairly good

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And usually bigger, if we’re going by how those films have outgrossed Sonic. But anything is possible

median sequoia
ivory loom
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And how GvK and GxK made good money cause there was barely any competition when they released

sour geode
versed karma
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He actually peaked at sonic 3 and knuckles but you're not ready for that conversation

amber mortar
elder bear
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do we expect anything

wicked hearth
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only possible spin off imo

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or announcements

median sequoia
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I'm in the same boat

sturdy token
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Mhm

median sequoia
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If it's anything sonic 4 related, it'll just be a passing mention of it being on the slate and that's it.

sturdy token
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I don't expect anything substantial

median sequoia
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But anything outside of that? I think there's a small chance of some kind of announcement of a spinoff project.

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If it's theatrical

elder bear
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i feel like they may announce shadow spin off and thats all

vast inlet
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It'd be neat if they announced a spin-off, but that's kind of it

median sequoia
wicked hearth
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please don't announce anything for Paramount Plus, if Shadow spinoff is exclusive to that I will kill them

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using Chaos Blast

median sequoia
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I'm just trying to see if it's really over for the transformers

night anvil
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there’s not gonna be anything, it’s too early

median sequoia
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Or some info on that last Ronin movie & mutant mayhem 2.

night anvil
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even in regards to a spinoff, I feel like they may wait until June

median sequoia
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They didn't wait too long to announce that knuckles spinoff, but that might have been a special case I. That regard lol

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Considering we didn't get a shadow spinoff announcement before sonic 3's release.

amber mortar
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another less good than the original remake

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i can't wait !

wicked hearth
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hey they are showing Sonic (as part of an old movies montage)

fallen harness
wicked hearth
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Avatar!

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Okay no

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Rihanna introduces Smurfs

fallen harness
wicked hearth
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it's basically 500 at least, even though it did not cross that

night anvil
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both blue people

delicate galleon
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All prices USD

Domestic run finally ended on March 27th

111 theaters held screenings for it that day, totaling $7,207, averaging $64 per theater.

Final domestic tally:
$236,115,100

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Total box office gross is $491.12 million

willow forge
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Not Mario levels of revenue, but hey, it still is successful

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What does make it? Over 1.2 Billion in earned revenue across the trilogy?

delicate galleon
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$1.363 billion

tacit apex
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491.12 ain't too bad, Its a little less then half a billion.

slow maple
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Hopefully it gets a release to push it to 500 down the road

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Just for that nice even number

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Overall pretty solid and consistent growth

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Ofc we always expect more, but this is a fine middle ground

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Next movie will need to count on Amy bring in untapped audience

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It will be a tough battle cause I think by now movie 3 has exhausted the young boys audience interested in Sonic

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And there will be diminishing returns there that need to be offset by young girls

willow forge
willow forge
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Sliver, Blaze and whoever else they decide to bring on can be determined by the success of Sonic 4 onwards.

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But that's all dancing around the main question:

How do you do it in a way that speaks to young girls without coming of as pandering, pretentious, or inauthentic?

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Better yet, without alienating audiences already interested in the series?

kind cedar
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Amy, Blaze, Cream, Rouge etc are characters first, females second.

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It's important that audiences feel represented sure, but it's also way too easy to overthink how to approach this

ivory loom
slow maple
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Whatever helps it sell at this point

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At this point the movies have established what they are

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Fun goofy energy and like you teach kids a very straightforward lesson about friends and family

indigo vapor
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movie sonic is scary

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amber mortar
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God that looks so fucking UGLY

dusky garnet
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The editing is fine is the like

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Sharp fucking filter

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So unnecessary

amber mortar
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I took a picture and sharpened it and it made it so much better guys omg 🥹

dusky garnet
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Aaauaughh

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Why

amber mortar
night anvil
amber mortar
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Because people who don't have any taste (most people) think that it looks better this way

median sequoia
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Doesn't mean I don't wanna see it one day ofc.

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Just that sonic ain't no mario atm in terms of appeal & other aspects.
Even with the gradual uphill growth going on.

sturdy token
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just the first spiderverse alone was the CBM with less revenue of 2018

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and it should had gotten big numbers given it still uses Spider-man as an IP

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(across did but that' after the first spiderverse got some prestigee but the current panorama of CBM's allowed it to stand out)

mossy imp
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I didn't remember the word was across

kind cedar
amber mortar
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If they had went the animated route

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We wouldn't have had 3 movies in 4 yrs either

kind cedar
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It'd make like, half the box office

ember talon
fleet shadow
sturdy token
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just by virtue that he could not do much against Quicksilver

fleet shadow
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i've played mash, sonic getting bodied by steve

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high anvil
fallen harness
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3 years already feels unreal

barren dock
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It does.

ember talon
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Thank you sonic 2 movie for saving Knuckles's char 🙏

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indigo vapor
tacit apex
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We are one week from today, Until the physical release of Sonic Movie 3

sturdy token
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Seeing Natasha Rosswell's account on twitter is very funny yet based

wicked hearth
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Natasha Rothwell is based for tweeting that btw

tacit apex
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Just noticed that the Corridor Crew did another one of those VFX Artist react videos, And this time it features Sonic Movie 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_t0ONKeldc

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wicked hearth
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I'm watching the video, for some reason the vfx artists can't figure out what's real and what's cgi, the cgi in the movie is so good and blends with the live action

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in particular in the Shadow scene in Tokyo

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one of them thinks Gerald is Eggman's father but they are using can you feel the sunshine for the montage (?)

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I'm confused

tacit apex
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When they show the Robotnik dancing scene, They replaced the music with Super Sonic Racing

boreal hornet
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Ok?

tacit apex
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Super Sonic Racing seems to fit that scene better then the song they used

boreal hornet
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No it fucking doesn't, the scene was made with Galvanize in mind

tacit apex
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I love hearing the details on how some of the shots are made, especially the scenes where both Robotniks are in the same scene.

tacit apex
median sequoia
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God I hope they secure Kimiko Glenn for Amy

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Tyson has said that their eyes are always scanning fandom talk/spaces about the films or otherwise, so there's no doubt that hasn't crossed their radar in pre-production.

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dusky garnet
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Tyson is a blessing

kind cedar
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Hopefully with some decent people on the team this also means they won't screw up the character...?

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Maybe for once having a well written female character in a big hollywood movie. Hell of a pipedream I know

median sequoia
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With Tyson around, I don't think so. Or at least they'll be given very broad pointers by him & SEGA, who work with the writers.

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That and Pat Casey at least gets the fact that she's a pretty bouncy/colorful character even before sonic 3.

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I gotta find that one interview again one day.

sturdy token
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Yeah

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She is a very energetic person

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and the sonic movies have respected the nuances of the Sonic-shaped characters while also adding flare that makes them unique

kind cedar
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that has worked out more often than not

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they kinda fumbled Tails a little at first but there was some good course correction in movie 3

sturdy token
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A little, but it was more that he didn't have much screen time in 2

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rather than him being a character that didn't work per se

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if it makes sense

kind cedar
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I just hated the sonic hyper-fanboy shtick

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and the "ONLY SONIC THE HEDGEHOG COULD-" like shut, the fuck up

sturdy token
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oh yeah makes sense

median sequoia
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I wonder how they're gonna start off movie 4.

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Movie 3's end credit scene was the first one to directly follow up after the events of the film/sonic encountering the new character in said scene.

kind cedar
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I think they'll do that again honestly

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in a kind of back to the future esc way

median sequoia
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So are they gonna retcon it, or pull an NWH, and just pick up right there.

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(I still suggest beginning the movie with a ghost in the shell inspired sequence of metal sonic being created, but I'll let them cook.)

kind cedar
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Speaking of, I remember seeing an idea around here where, Neo Metal would disguise himself as Eggman, and that's how Jim Carrey comes back (if he does)

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kind cedar
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It did?

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kind cedar
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are we sure it might not just be a cgi thing

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cause the actual real life suit and the CG one look kinda different in some ways

sturdy token
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Both from their set

kind cedar
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Huh

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can't believe it took me 4 years to notice this

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oh my god wait NWH was 4 years ago

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kind cedar
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Mind you it looks better in some places than in ffh

sturdy token
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Yeah, they streamlined a bit the belt area, making it more of a one-piece rather than two like in ffh

kind cedar
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I just wish they didn't feel the need to cgi all over these suits

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cause they can look amazing

sturdy token
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Yeah, it's a shame

kind cedar
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the one thing I pray for in Spidey 4 other than it not being a multiversal movie

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I do have faith in the director

sturdy token
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We shall see what happens

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Destin is a great director

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Shang-Chi is so well directed

kind cedar
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The rumor mills go that it's gonna be a mr negative movie

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and I would be so fucking down for that

sturdy token
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it makes sense, they introduced that company of service ever since Far From Home which is lead by Mr. Negative in the comics and ps4 Spider-man

kind cedar
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he could be a pretty good trilogy throughline aswell come to think

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A black suit Spidey facing him could make for some really cool parallels

wicked hearth
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But I liked the work on Tails in 2

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More than in 3, I think the movie was focusing on the 2 hedgehogs and 2 Robotniks

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So for me Tails in Sonic 2 > Tails in Sonic 3

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Same for Knuckles

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It's just Sonic 3 is more balanced between Tails and Knuckles as team mates

kind cedar
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What helps too is just seeing Tails specifically having more actual agency and not being knocked out for a good chunk of the plot

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and then needing to be rescued by Maddie & Rachel

fallen harness
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Preordered the Shadow steelbook just in time ulasonic_ple

night anvil
amber mortar
ivory loom
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The rain effects look amazing ngl

elder bear
ember talon
median sequoia
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I think that guy is speaking facts

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sjsjsjs

dusky garnet
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I dont like the idea of just maddie needs to be center cuz she’s the girl

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Yea i dont mind maddie taking more of a role than tom but i dont want it to be just cuz of “romantic advice” or “girlpower”

median sequoia
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I just need more tika sumpter

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Marsden has had pure custody of a trilogy

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He’s going back to marvel, he been talking about cyclops like an accolade for the last 8 years he’s been out

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He ain’t making the full cut on Sonic 4’s filming, GET TIKA IN THERE

night anvil
median sequoia
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I be making shit up for my own narratives sometimes

fallen harness
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Crazy how Minecraft Movie has a vinyl record before Sonic 3

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Also how tf is it sold out

median sequoia
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Minecraft got pull

tacit apex
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You have the Tom and Sonic dynamic, So imagine a Maddie and Amy dynamic

ember talon
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Honestly that could work out very well

boreal hornet
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We just need more Maddie in general

ember talon
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agreed

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I just feel like having maddie interact with Amy will help her a lot. Sure with girl talk but it'll bring a very good interaction between the two

boreal hornet
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It was cool af for like the first episode of Knuckles that she got to have a more predominant presence but then she stopped appearing altogether

tacit apex
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Like for example, Maddie and Amy bonding, and at some point, Maddie finds a dress she used to wear as a kid, And she gives it to Amy, Which is how she gets that classic uniform.

peak dew
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Tika is pretty great with what little she’s given as Maddie so seeing her have a more active role would be nice

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she had to really push for more to do in 2 and it ended up the highpoint for her, only to get cut back in 3 (albeit along with nearly every other non-robotnik human character there lol)

median sequoia
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Jeff & the writers have even acknowledged that as more characters from the games get brought in, it's becoming a gradual battle for screentime each film for established characters.

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Which I think almost every project runs into that obstacle and have to work around it.

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Which makes me wonder if Knuckles & Taild will ge involved in the main plot come 4, or if they'll do their own side thing while Sonic is paired up with Amy on whatever future/ possible off world shenanigans.

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Which just made me realize, those two don't know where tf sonic went cause he was an overachiever in the race

elder bear
ivory loom
wicked hearth
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Sonic 3 was acclaimed so let's put it 1st place

peak dew
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street fighter placing in the top ten, based

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adore raul julia as bison, legendary casting

ivory loom
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And doom wasn’t smh😔

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The best movie robbed

vast inlet
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Putting the 2018 Tomb Raider movie in top 5 is kinda crazy ngl

elder bear
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tbf they said that they dont put another sonic movies because it would be unfair

vast inlet
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I don't care about that, I care more about the erasure of the Tomb Raider movies with Angelina Jolie

ivory loom
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Especially since the 3rd movie is way better than the other two

ivory loom
vast inlet
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Sure

ivory loom
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I’m glad it’s off the list, that’s sharky abuse :(

vast inlet
ivory loom
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They should have put resident evil the final chapter on the list ngl

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revolutionary editing choices

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revolutionary script

vast inlet
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Revolutionary (positive) or revolutionary (derogatory)?

ivory loom
vast inlet
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Ok I figured lmao

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Cuz I remember seeing one of the more recent RE movies on TV and it sure was uhhhhh unwatchable

ivory loom
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Doom would make for a good Secret Level episode ngl

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Even without the halo crossover

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Oh yea I heard the silent hill films exist

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Were they any good?

vast inlet
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I want to say people liked one of the 2, but I don't remember which one

willow forge
ivory loom
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im talking the original

willow forge
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Even more so

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Tax Evasion Scheme in Germany, it was used for.

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In that case, what Uwe did was deliberately make cataclysmic box office blowups to exploit a loophole in German Tax law.

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Where "Taxes had be paid on any returns the movie made back."

twin shoal
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Doom was directed by different director

twin shoal
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Uwe directed a lot of bad shit movies adapted from a video games

barren dock
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tacit apex
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Finally, We can bring this back

boreal hornet
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This is fucking stupid

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They're still limited and returning decorations are only if you have Nitro

indigo vapor
ember talon
tacit apex
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I think we'll see an evolution of Metal Sonic, The 3rd act will be Metal Overlord

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Sonic 3 releases physically tomorrow, Hope I get my copy, It says arriving tomorrow, but it hasn't shipped

fallen harness
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Yes

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You don’t need that many copies of the same movie

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Let’s be honest

dusky garnet
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Says the guy that puts autographs all his stuff lol

night scarab
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Technically you don't need any Sonic movie... I mean...

tacit apex
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Somebody broke the street date and got it early

fallen harness
tacit apex
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of course

shadow hound
next wedge
fallen harness
tacit apex
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So it shipped this morning, and should be here today.

fallen harness
tacit apex
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It's at a Miami warehouse, so it'll be here later

tacit apex
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It's finally here

median sequoia
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Co-producer Tyson Hesse and screenwriters Pat Casey & Josh Miller talk with us about crafting the Sonic the Hedgehog movie trilogy. Although we do talk about Sonic 3 (in theaters now), you'll be pleased to know we avoided spoilers, so listen in confidence.

For more Josh Miller: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/best-movies-never-made/id1450...

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Idk if I ever shared this, but this has some really meaty information on how the internal workings of the movies & game stuff goes on.

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More specifically, Tyson talking about his own involvement in the recent lore team

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Which

  1. Was created off the heels of movie 1.

  2. There was a "lore team" before then, but it was more so just individuals within SEGA on sonic projects just giving their tidbits.

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  1. The lore team (going at least by this time frame of when the podcast episode was made.) Doesn't have extreme power to make changes.
    And or make changes in their favor solely, these are sonic team or sega approved things
    (In reference to them no longer using the logic of two planets, and settling on one singular planet.)
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I'll keep putting in information for anyone that can't watch it rn.

median sequoia
sturdy token
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Very interesting

median sequoia
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The chaos emeralds and their place in the movieverse is still relatively in flux, even post movie 3 in terms of how they function & should be used narratively.

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When they were introduced in movie 2, they refrained from having them be seperate entities because it would prompt a quest to find 8 different mcguffins.

And coming off the heels of avengers endgame, they didn't want to ride off of that narrative wave.

sturdy token
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Yeah it makes sense. People would find them a rip-off

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And it's a conversation that does happen within fandoms

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(Mr. Knight in Moon Knight had some talks about being a Deadpool-wanna be due to how the suit looks)

median sequoia
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Earlier iterations of Gerald's inclusion had a version of him being aome kind of chaos energy ghost.

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Or a time ghost of some variety, the main idea being that he wouldve gotten stuck in the middle of Shadow's chaos control in the past and had him in this state of limbo.

median sequoia
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Another facet of Tyson Hesse's involvement with the films is to give pointers of "This is how the games are, this is how fans will receive your changes." And they can tweak or not tweak whatever is relevant to that (Gerlad robotnik for example.)

The writing side/development angle of these movies is not the creatives just doing whatever they want & not caring what the fans will think.
What is seen on the silver screen is the act of multiple peoples ideas & changes in a collaborative effort, that doesn't just boil down to "it was the writers" or "it was the director".

sturdy token
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It's a back and forth between multiple parts

high anvil
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I remember i heard in sonic movie 1, one pitch that sonic was a space criminal, he stole a chaos emerald and head to earth snd tricks all of the humans there that he's the good until he goes through an arc to no longer be a criminal and actually be a hero once robotnik first came into his life.

median sequoia
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Yep, that's true

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You heard about the mutation pitch?

median marsh
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Mutation pitch?

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Didn’t hear about that one

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Heard about the early Sony Scooby-esque pitch tho awhile back

high anvil
median sequoia
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The chaos emeralds would fall onto an off the grid island, mutating the animals into mobians over the course of history before a society & therefor a majority of the cast (Sonic & co.) would be established on one setting.

Sonic served as the protector of the island, before eggman was sent by the government to capture his friends or the chaos emeralds that were keeping the forest alive.

Sonic would then proceed to chase eggman down back to America to get and even, and that's as far as we know.

median marsh
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Oh ya now I remember

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Weren’t the rings like ancient Mayan rings also?

median sequoia
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I think it was along those lines, yeah

high anvil
median sequoia
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They kind of inferred that it'd be the characters we know/his friends more than the little critters.

high anvil
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So it's just sonic's friends being useless again.

high anvil
median sequoia
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I don’t think there was any way to go about it, other than having them be in one place.

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Unless it was a 3 hour film maybe, but that’s pushing it in terms of narrative construction for a film lol

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Being in the master emerald? I could take or leave it, but it was the middle ground that was met with SEGA from what they said at least ig.

fleet shadow
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I dont like the idea of "some other thing did some stuff, so a fundamental piece of our universe had to be changed" thats bleh to me
Especially now considering marvel has fallen out of favor with so many. Ultimately the films turned outfine but i genuinely hate that idea.

sturdy token
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The thing is that it would not had worked very well because Infinity war had 18 movies behind which made it have the location of 5 of the infinity stones in easy locations

median sequoia
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Yeah I get it, but they aren’t the first to feel that way/write around that concept.

sturdy token
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and only have to really explain 1

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with the chaos emeralds, they'd have to contextualize all 7 of them

median sequoia
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No writer wants their work to be referenced as “oh it’s just like ‘such & such’. Which wouldn’t be a problem with Sonic fans, as much as it would be a problem with general audiences who only know that as a reference.

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There aren’t many films with multi colored gem stones that hold extraordinary powers, that require you to go globe trotting to collect them so I get it from a writers/film making perspective.

sturdy token
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X made it this way but it's because it's a series, it can take more time to elaborate on the position of each emerald in a particular episode

median sequoia
median sequoia
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Didn’t mean to go on a whole tangent, either way I get what you mean village.

fallen harness
tacit apex
next wedge
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the movie one sonic looks so smooth

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the details are there for sure but are barely visible

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I think that's why it looks a lil better

sick coyote
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tbf, only so much you can iron out when you have to redesign and reanimate the blue fucker in like, 6 months lmao

sick coyote
high anvil
indigo vapor
fallen harness
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Got the best figure in my Easter basket lol

spice ember
dusky garnet
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They could have done the beep

sturdy token
next wedge
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The fact that they could've just cut part of the scene lol

mossy imp
amber mortar
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Awww lil bwaby can't little words awww bigsad

indigo vapor
fallen harness
boreal hornet
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"Time to say goodbye to this.... starts running"

peak dew
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wade whipple yaoi real.........

boreal hornet
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Had to tell him I am the only one allowed to thirst for jacked women

versed karma
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the flames of gaydaster bog

elder bear
dusky garnet
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Nothing actively in the works huh

ember talon
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Honestly? I am glad they confirm that. Gives more room for sonic 4 movie development

mossy imp
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How? There's already a confirmed date for the movies release

elder bear
fallen harness
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As much as I want more movies I don’t want them to over milk the franchise for films

boreal hornet
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I mean we already hit the point of no return

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Total franchise had grossed over a billion at this point, already had a streaming-exclusive spin off miniseries, and now we're getting a 4th film

ember talon
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Yeah it already managed to be successful enough after 3 movies straight. Helps even more considering with Shadow's impact

boreal hornet
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This train's gonna keep rolling until a film makes less than expected projections, causing Paramount to lose all interest

ember talon
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Yeah it's generally how things work when it comes to movies. It helps even more for SEGA considering that Sonic is slowly going to get bigger than ever

dusky garnet
delicate galleon
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Not surprised about this

mossy imp
wicked hearth
delicate galleon
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can confirm it is true

next wedge
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That is great news

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Finally 500m breakout

wicked hearth
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Great

sturdy token
high anvil
barren dock
analog trout
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The Sonic Cinematic Universe™️ be gettin’ crazy

sturdy token
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well

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the film will have spectacular action

slow maple
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As with every sega project

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I hope it does well lol

fallen harness
sick coyote
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Got my disappointment of a steelbook

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Fuckin fumbled the easiest layup ever

ivory loom
fallen harness
delicate galleon
slow maple
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Bruh

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It just came out

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That's an absurd amount of inflation

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Good grief

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4%?

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That just pissed me off lol

fallen harness
slow maple
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Oh shit

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I wonder if this has any plot differences

slow maple
delicate galleon
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For the record, this is a prototype of the Genesis cartridge, not the film itself

slow maple
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Argh

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Still of interest tho

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But much less

versed karma
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someone oughtta dump the rom already

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the roblox remake is cool and all but what about the real thing

sick coyote
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put it on nso, cowards

versed karma
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better yet put knuckles chaotix on nso

median sequoia
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Total revenue for the film has been at $465 million, including theatrical and home media releases.
Expenses include $122 million for production of the film, $125 million in marketing, and $94.4 million in residuals, interest, and the like, totaling $341.4 million in expenses.

sturdy token
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Mhm

paper cradle
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this prob doesnt include revenue from merch either, right?

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bc for a movie like this merch is usually a big source of revenue

delicate galleon
paper cradle
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oh

elder bear
delicate galleon
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Box office is not taken into account

slow maple
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Well the number is based off the same metrics

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Maybe this is the revenue for Paramount only

slow maple
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That's a lot of money from streaming and home entertainment

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Also Paramout gets a... 46-47% cut of the BO

night scarab
slow maple
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Wait so if they paid themselves money

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Did they make any money in reality

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😭

night scarab
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999,999.98 dollars in streaming

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Wait no that can be rounded

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499,999.98

slow maple
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I guess what paramount paid itself was a small amount

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Not anywhere close to $150

median sequoia
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In the event that paramount goes under with all this building and unbuilding debt they have going on

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What’s the likelihood that the Sonic movies as we know them in this continuity could continue under a different studio?

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I know that’s sorta kinda the case with angry birds 3, it is but it isn’t a sony picture, while being distributed by paramount.

delicate galleon
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Sorta, but not really. Sony isn't doing the animation for the third film - its spread out across different studios

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As for the likelihood that the SCU could continue under a different distributor? No idea.

median marsh
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delicate galleon
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It’s quite amazing that the Sonic movies are the only series from the start to have fresh ratings for every film in the franchise

sturdy token
ember talon
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The fact that it's 3 times in a row is insane

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Sonic Movie series managed to appeal the movie audience very well

ivory loom
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1994 :p

ember talon
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Easily for sure

ivory loom
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or 2004 i think?

ember talon
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The movie series gave Sonic the push it really needs

ivory loom
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idk

ember talon
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I'll honestly say since SA2

ivory loom
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SA2B

ember talon
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er yeah true lmao

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At the time it was very huge for the series

median sequoia
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As more time passes by I think there's definitely a couple of ways that sonic 4 could one up sonic 3.

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I know there's a handful of people that swe SA2 as the pinnacle of sonic stories & sonic 3 felt like the pinnacle of the movies, in terms of improvements in a lot of areas the last 2 films lacked.

median sequoia
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Second, maturing the storyline with the audience even further (which Jeff has expressed he wants to do with the films already.)

Sonic 3 carried good momentum of stakes & seriousness, and I don't think that has to die just because shadow won't be the second main character & revert back to mostly 'family movie' moments.

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I'd say, since they're adapting sonic CD, we're gonna have some type of bad future with eggman supposedly ruling; maybe they could really highlight a dictatorship & pollution of a planet?

dusky garnet
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4 months have passed
How does everyone feel about sonic 3?

indigo vapor
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still pretty solid

dusky garnet
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As someone who straight up doesnt watch movies

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Sonic 3 was fine but i’m not really thinking to rewatch it

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That’s for this whole trilogy too

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They have high moments and scenes but for the most part, i am disinterested

ember talon
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I do enjoy it but I don't normally bother rewatching movies at all due to their length

dusky garnet
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I also think aside from shadow nothing really captivated me

indigo vapor
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I’d rewatch the movie but if it was the only thing I could watch for a year, I’d probably be sick of it

dusky garnet
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Say that to the person that watched it 100 times on theater

indigo vapor
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I still can’t believe they really did that😭

amber mortar
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Still solid

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He thinks it's easily the best one

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Also

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I remembered something that threw me off the first time i saw the movie (but i forgot to point it out then)

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How tf

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When sonic is checking the old gun base

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Is the popcorn still intact

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After like 50 years

indigo vapor
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Probably not

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After a couple of days popcorn tends to get wrinkly

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So after a 50 years it’s either decomposed or dust

spice ember
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Still good

sturdy token
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Haven't watched it ever since the last time

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so I'll rewatch it later to see what's up

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later on maybe

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homework has been kicking my ass with time

next wedge
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out of the 3 definetly the best one

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my only problem with it is how the story feels like it was cut a lot

median sequoia
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Still interested in hearing Jeff's "Dream sonic movie 3" though.

sturdy token
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from what I remember

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it was a great movie

sick coyote
indigo vapor
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No

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It’s revenge guac

sick coyote
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Sonic 3 is the first sonic movie where it actually feels like it's not ashamed about the fact it's a video game adaptation

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I still wish they went further in a lot of areas, especially with the music, but actually having music featured more prominently with live and learn being present throughout the ehole movie was a HUGE improvement from sonic 2 just having tue drowning theme hidden in the background

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Or how it just ripped off music from ant-man for the big sonic and knuckles fight

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still salty about that, the big fight, and you couldn't even be arsed to compose something new for it

ember talon
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Yeah I can't argue with that

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But it always happens with Knuckles. Why they keep doing this to mah boi? 😔

sick coyote
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Also needle drops here were a MUCH better selection imo
The picks in 3 were a MUCH better fit for sonic compared to what they had in the first 2 films

dusky garnet
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to me the weakest part of Sonic 3 was Gerald
He wasn’t a particularly interesting character at all and it really feels like it is just a bone to Jim Carrey rather than a cool choice

ember talon
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Hard agreed

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Gerald is a very nothing burger

dusky garnet
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And the problem is that he is Very prominent

indigo vapor
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I still wish that when Gerald revealed his suicide mission, he completely dropped the funny grandparent act and just became a insane piece of shit

dusky garnet
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It feels he had more lines than Knuckles and Tails combined, even if might not be the case

ember talon
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I feel like for Gerald it shows that he really isn't meant to be main focus where he isn't normally the main focus due to Shadow and Maria, and Sonic 3 movie.... really shows

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Gerald himself is always fine as a char don't get me wrong but never meant to be the main focus

sick coyote
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He really should've dropped the goofiness after the "you're no maria" moment

median sequoia
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We have gradually seen the process of "let the creative team do what they want, and as a studio back off and trust the process."

Along with "Tyson Hesse is a key part of the process"

indigo vapor
ember talon
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I feel like that's the biggest flaw over Sonic 3 movie imho

sick coyote
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They had bits earlier on that made me think they were gonna go that route, but they didn't

median sequoia
sick coyote
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Like the bit where he's just like "SO I'M BURNING IT ALL DOWN" was so good and then he went back into chucklefuck mode before going

sturdy token
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If I had to compare movie and game, I'd say gerald is better utilized here

but his characterization holds him back

median sequoia
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The pro's and con's of having Jim Carrey

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He deadass has leeway to do whatever he wants

sturdy token
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while sa2 specifically gerald hits harder with the twits but also it's an exposition dump that just appears at the end

indigo vapor
median sequoia
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Very rarely and I don't think ever, do they reign him back in outside of budgetary things they couldn't afford.

ember talon
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Jim Carrey I do love and respect but he is always meant to be as Eggman

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Never Gerald at all

indigo vapor
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Agreed

ember talon
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Main thing with Eggman is that he can be a serious threat while being goofy whereas for Gerald? He is filled with pure revenge and anger

median sequoia
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It's genius in the way it's a good selling point to get your parents to watch it or something, but the aftermath as a fan it's kinda like..really the best tho?

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Ig he fit for the narrative of movie robotnik's grandfather more than game eggman's and the story they told

sturdy token
median sequoia
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Which you can't always avoid ofc

sturdy token
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people who aren't really sonic fans that I know just talk to me about having a blast with Gerald

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but my position as a fan who knows the stuff of sa2-shadow 05-battle makes that a really weird pill to digest

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(I won't count shadow gens because they were developed around at the same time so it would be unfair to use it against them aside from some brand synergy here and there)

sturdy token
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Game Eggman is not that over the top either personality wise

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sure he has the badniks and wants to conquer the world, but he's far more grounded

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you don't see him do many Jim Carrey shenanigance

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and the comedy that comes usually is at the expense of Eggman

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rather than coming from him directly

dusky garnet
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Ngl i dont see the problem with game eggman being over the top

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And ngl

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He is

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Not jim carrey level but he is

sturdy token
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yeah, that's what I say

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just that game Eggman is not full of jim carrey stuff

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like you won't have eggman randomly dancing while being chased by a holographic dinosaur

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or acting like a robot from time to time

ember talon
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I feel like it's more so the difference is that Jim Carrey tends to push the goofy side really hard depending on what char he is portraying

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It already works for Eggman since he is a mix between goofy and serious

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Gerald is not and why he feels very underwhelming in the movie

sturdy token
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The thing with Gerald is less that he isn't

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and more so that we didn't get so see much of how he is outside of the ark raid

ember talon
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Yeah there is that

sturdy token
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like post sa2 content before Shadow gens only do two things:

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  1. facilitate lore via exposition
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  1. portray him as some sort of messiah or victory card
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(battle and rivals 2, and shadow 05 respectively)

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Shadow Gens is really the first time where we see more of how Gerald actually is

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which wasn't that far off of Eggman himself

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just not as insane I suppose

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but he did have his fair share of excentricities and goofyness to him

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such as the ARK having his face and a few other bits

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there wasn't enough of Game Gerald to truly give us an idea that he could be goofy enough for the Movie universe to go that route

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Unlike Pachacamac which I cannot really apply this thought process

ember talon
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Pacahamac is so weird????

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Like it was way too random looking back 💀

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But fuck man.... I really hope it means they are building up for Chaos and Tikal after with Amy because there is no reason he just suddenly show up like that before Shadow getting an actual appearance or any other sonic chars

sturdy token
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Pachacamac was a weird addition, although I liked his chillness

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it was a bit weird given games Pachacamac is more severe

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guess he could not be that anymore given he is dead

ember talon
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That I can at least get

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If you become a spirit you at least have more erm......

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Time I guess to know about the consequences, so I guess pacahamac realized what he has done after his death (Most likely Tikal)

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But fuck man I really hope Sonic 5 Movie leads up to it now we finally got Amy and Metal Sonic

sturdy token
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Mhm

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Hope Chaos is here, it would be so awesome

ember talon
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You can easily fit Shadow for this too because chaos powers

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It's the perfect opportunity to get to know both Chaos and Tikal since Chaos suffers the similar fate as Shadow while Tikal will make Shadow reminded of Maria in a bit

indigo vapor
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I wonder if they do adapt Adventure in the movies

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Would be weird to skip over it

ember talon
#

I really hope honestly

sturdy token
night scarab
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When they adapt Adventure I will be there for it for sure

ember talon
#

Same

indigo vapor
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Same

sturdy token
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Same

ember talon
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SA1 adaptation has HUGE amount of potential you can do

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The fact that they even have Shadow is perfect

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Shadow can perfectly fit in SA1 adaptation so well

indigo vapor
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If they play it doesn’t matter, believe in myself, and open your heart all in the same movie I’m gonna absolutely cry tears of joy

sturdy token
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I'd say adventure 2 was very well adapted. A few cavebeats here and there, but generally they did very well with the movie

ember talon
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Honestly I'll say the adapations overall well put out

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Having both Sonic 2 and 3 (games) being a mix works very well for each others

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While SA2 taking some very few traits from Shth over to Sonic 3 movie

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Makes me hope Sonic 4 movie does that with CD and Heroes (Mainly with neo metal sonic)

indigo vapor
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All imma say is if we don’t get what I’m made of in 4 I won’t be angry, but my disappointment will be immeasurable

ember talon
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I do get people wanting Heroes to be later with the teams and all but I have to be real

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That one is very easy to get adapted due to neo metal sonic considering 3 major things

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He scanned mainly with Sonic first
Then with chaos energy related in some form (Like Chocolo and Froggy or the Master Emerald)
and then Shadow

sturdy token
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I honestly don't think you really need to adapt heroes strictly

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and, instead, should be combined with CD like you say sgm

ember talon
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Exactly. Heroes is very easy to do when it comes to adaptation

sturdy token
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Heroes story on it's own is very minimalistic, and the team stuff doesn't really add anything other than the basic theme of team work.

indigo vapor
sturdy token
mossy imp
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The bio-data of the other characters

ember talon
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With the chaos energy: Knuckles, Tails, and Amy will be involved due to having their own traits

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Sonic 4 movie in a nutshell can easily demostrate what the chaos energy's real capability due to Metal Sonic

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Since the main thing I notice over the sonic movie series is that they tend to centered around over it for different reasons

sturdy token
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Mhm

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This will be a fun ride

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At the very least, I have faith that this adaptation is better than Archie's

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(yeah didn't like the CD adaptation of Archie comics)

ember talon
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It's another reason why I wanted Chaos to show up since it's literally freaking Chaos. Chaos has the best buildup after getting the core cast

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Due to not only chaos energy but can harness the negative power of the chaos emeralds while it further developed Sonic's char over what it means to be a hero

peak dew
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(and for the better, as much as it guts out a big part of eggman's drive in 3 it also rrrrrrrreally wasn't good and 100% needed cutting lmao)

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I do think at points as Gerald he's maybe hamming it up sliiiiightly too much but like, not to a point where I'm taken outta what's happening, its not like the first film where he's the only thing holding it all together and it rides or dies on his antics

fallen harness
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Family got a new TV and it’s an 85in screen so I had to watch one of the best films on it

ember talon
#

God seeing shadow smiling like that is just so good 🙏

indigo vapor
#

Honestly really heartwarming to see him having the time of his life fighting robots alongside the person who he once tried to kill

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If we ever get a Shadow spinoff movie I’m praying they have Sonic absolutely happy Shadow is alive

sturdy token
#

and the way shadow helps it's just so satisfying

peak dew
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I think my tv's like, around 30 lol, jesus christ thats a monster of a telly

indigo vapor
#

How much was the tv for 85in

fallen harness
peak dew
mossy imp
#

I'm guessing the 100inch was too much

peak dew
#

by this point just move into a cinema lmao

indigo vapor
boreal hornet
#

That's a luxury for people with a literal metric fuckton of money

indigo vapor
#

Yea fair

sick coyote
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bro those shits tend to be in the quadruple digits

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digits that don't start with 1

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hell sometimes

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they'll even be in the pentuple digits

fallen harness
formal latch
#

hi

dusky garnet
#

Jello

ruby wasp
sturdy token
winged perch
ruby wasp
#

true lol

next wedge
#

I always forget that movie was a thing

ivory loom
#

and unfunny jack black is like having a sonic soundtrack composed entirely of midi instruments

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is bad :(

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christ, even the minecraft movie had some funny jack black moments (unintentionally, but they were still funny)

fallen harness
mossy imp
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The movie was basically one of those "Game: The Movie All cutscenes" videos except with a bigger budget

vast inlet
#

I've not seen the movie, but I did play the remake/reboot? and for me that felt like "Movie: The Game"

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So that checks out I guess

peak dew
fervent jacinth
#

6 years since we first saw the Sonic Movie before the redesign kicked in... could you imagine what the other Sonic Movies would've looked like had Sonic not been redesigned?

median sequoia
#

Wouldn't be any other sonic movies I think

barren dock
#

Pretty much.

sturdy token
indigo vapor
#

how would shadow react tho if sonic told him that his mom and dad were having another baby

next wedge
#

😭

dusky garnet
#

KFKDJXKSK NO WAY

fallen harness
boreal hornet
high anvil
sturdy token
indigo vapor
#

does this mean I’m gonna be able to rewatch Sonic 3 for 5 more times for 1.75 each

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I already love this

fallen harness
indigo vapor
next wedge
#

Seems like is just that one scene lmao

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But is still funny

ivory loom
#

Why even watch films like this?

indigo vapor
#

Ok some of these look good but the majority is just bleh

ivory loom
#

Humans aren’t built like Hammerhead sharks

formal latch
ivory loom
#

i cant believe it

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6 years ago, movie trailer discourse was ruined forev-

indigo vapor
median sequoia
#

I have my own personal hypothesis that the end credit scene of 3, is the most representative of how they're going to approach sonic in 4.

Which is of course obvious, but I mean it more so that the presentation of that sequence changed all the way up to the last moment from what Pat & Josh & even Ben Schwartz has said about it.

Taking to account that the creative team isn't unaware of fan critiques & pointers, I don't think it's out of the question that it's the most current piece of writing in the film that fits as a direct response to the feeling of movie sonic having a lack of edge/confidence.

ruby wasp
#

Well, fans backlashed and stuff, but afterwards, he was back

fallen harness
indigo vapor
fallen harness
#

No

indigo vapor
#

ok

versed karma
#

and if the small movie uckle is the sonic 2 one gimme that too

fleet shadow
fallen harness
delicate galleon
#

KCA 2025 nominees for Favorite Movie, per press release:

  • A Minecraft Movie
  • Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
  • Captain America: Brave New World
  • Descendants: The Rise of Red
  • Paddington in Peru
  • Sonic the Hedgehog 3
  • THUNDERBOLTS*
  • Wicked
dusky garnet
#

Why is beetlejuice here

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Like

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I am SORRY?

delicate galleon
#

Sonic 3 is also nominated for:

  • Favorite Movie Actor (Jim Carrey)
  • Favorite Male Animated Voice from a Movie twice (Ben Schwartz and Keanu Reeves)
  • Favorite Villian (Jim Carrey as Dr. Robotnik)
  • Favorite Song from a Movie (Run It by Jelly Roll)
dusky garnet
#

Wow

kind cedar
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(never seen descendants so I dunno its deal)

mossy imp
#

Was 2x Beetlejuice bad or something?

peak dew
#

I dug bj bj, was a fun time

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bit wild seeing it at a kids choice awards, mind lol

boreal hornet
versed karma
spice ember
#

When the animators actually care

peak dew
#

When the animators actually car

boreal hornet
indigo vapor
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(apparently there’s no gifs of animators making animation so fuck)

ember talon
#

I really hope Sonic 3 win this

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Not because of Sonic but more of how well faithful it did as an video game movie

dusky garnet
#

I mean lmfaooooo

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Even if sonic 3 is not a masterpiece

Come on now wjsksjsj

ember talon
#

I get it’s Minecraft but the more I keep seeing this movie in twitter it feels like I’m seeing ttgo all over again

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💀

boreal hornet
#

more KCA posting

ember talon
#

Nah I know it’s him obviously I just wanted to bring this up considering the awards

dusky garnet
#

Drew is talking about KCA
Kids Choice Awards, not anyone

#

I mean at this point is not really harming anybody

ember talon
#

Yeah I know

boreal hornet
#

It's just annoying af

dusky garnet
#

Not really? Lmao

#

There is barely any posting in here

#

Gotta let go fam

ember talon
#

Yeah I never posted him at all till now

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💀

dusky garnet
#

Him who

ember talon
#

Cartoon base or whatever his account name his lmao

dusky garnet
#

Ah

boreal hornet
dusky garnet
#

Well not gonna happen anymore

ember talon
#

Yeah no worries

vast inlet
#

@boreal hornet but what if they announce spongebob for crossworlds

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You gotta be hyped!!!!!!

elder bear
#

get ready to release more sonic movies paramount

indigo vapor
#

me in 4028 watching Sonic 26(its a adaptation of Frontiers)

formal latch
#

How yall doin

dusky garnet
#

Hello

#

What is your favorite sonic game

boreal hornet
#

Make your answer rage bait it'll be funn

indigo vapor
#

Sonic 06

boreal hornet
#

Can't be rage bait if a meager less than 10% of people here have played it

vast inlet
#

Sonic 1 for Game Gear specifically

versed karma
#

or origins plus I guess

boreal hornet
median sequoia
#

Sonic 4 has a lot of potential to be darker than sonic 3, with them going the bad future route and how it can be presented imo.

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Did I say this before?

sturdy token
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Hm not that I recall

ember talon
#

Metal sonic writing wise can easily work as an horror like char

formal latch
sturdy token
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I bring it here to not interrupt what is in #sonic-lobby

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Does this count as Crossworlds today?

dusky garnet
#

Ig so yea

spice ember
sturdy token
#

whelp there we go, crossworlds today jsjsj

formal latch
#

Hey guys

ember talon
#

🗿

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I will forever adore team sonic's dynamic in the movies

indigo vapor
ember talon
#

#FuckDisney

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Already unhappy enough how they treated lion king and now this? Disney can go fuck off

#

sales my ass if you can't make a good movie

boreal hornet
median sequoia
#

With a corny ass fanbase

#

With corny ass individuals

sturdy token
indigo vapor
versed karma
#

point is live action stitch sucks annoy

night scarab
#

Hell that can be traced all the way back to how people viewed Tails as a character and his story, where the “younger brother” angle is more important than how his story revolves around his individualism (and makes it funnier when Sonic Team internally requires things like Sonic not deliberately saving Tails in Origins)

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Now the Disney movie that is most emblematic of that found family and familial values direction is attempting to take a more “individualistic” approach, and to its own detriment 💀

sturdy token
#

it's kinda funny how the blue hedgehog embraces the family themes better

night scarab
#

Eeeh, I’d have to see the lilo and stitch movie to make that judgement

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From what I’ve heard from defenders of the direction, it sells its new ideas as positive enough that they appreciate the changes and inclusion

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So long as the movie frames it as positive and uplifting the complaints will be more on a metacontextual “why would you do this” level

wicked hearth
#

Hot take but I don't like Sonic being a son and living in a town with his parents

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It is very cute I just don't find it fitting with the themes of the franchise

#

I was hoping Sonic would leave Green Hills to have new adventures in other worlds

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At the end of Sonic 3

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They should just do a better Lilo and Stitch movie with a better ending

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Also: "Sonic is just a kid" he's growing up and maturing, he isn't the same as movie 1

median sequoia
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He and the rest are going to have to eventually get up out of that house.

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And the writers are obviously feigning for that.

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But I also get that they don't want to do it and then it just comes off as an rushed justification for him to depart after sonic had so adamantly want to he apart of earth & it's culture.

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Since Will smith appeared in Knuckles on the television, does that mean he will be silver the hedgehog.

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The real questions

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tom holland

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Been thinking about what the estimated budget for sonic 4 could be, considering sonic 3's success.

And how much that metric could qualify for some of those game locations could make a debut like the writers have wanted to do for a while now.

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Sonic 1 had a budget of 85-90 million dollars, and with the little they showed of green Hill it was pretty good visually.

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But very baren, which makes sense considering how much it costs to even make the CG character & assets.

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Sonic 2's budget was 90-110 in budget.

Which I think heavily went into the action & CG versions of areas that were in them.
And there we had labyrinth zone, which was also pretty accurate/translated well as the sole game location.

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I think just a bit more.

night anvil
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close enough

night scarab
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All of that and we still don't know who went bowling 50 years ago

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Going through a bunch of IDW stuff right now and

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What... exactly was that different ending...?

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this might help and it's faster to check out

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so basically ||Commander Walter is alive? Rockwell was mad at Sonic because she wanted the location of the Master Emerald to grab it for GUN. There is another flashback with Maria drawing herself and Shadow doodles while scientists are preoccupied with her being in the lab, the vault scene is different, and there is... no ending, the third act is not in the comic because it tells you to watch the movie instead...||

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so in short, don't read the novelization... Just watch the movie again, it's peak

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agreed

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||never before have i been so fucking angry at a book||

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||well then why even make a novelisation in the first place?||

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||M O N E Y, M O N E Y, M O N E Y- Paramount/Mr. Krabs||

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Literally

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Michael Bay was legit so pissed that a novel for one of the Transformers movies basically spoiled the ending, so he just banned them from even adapting the 3rd act

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Which soon extended to like every film

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That had a novel adaptation

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And also released prior to the main film

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Also Michael Bay being pissed off from a Transformers movie did not stop at novels

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winged perch
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The marketing machine will not stop for anyone

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Nor delay for any reason

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Is it ever explained why GUN raided the lab in the movie?

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Yea shadow was too dangerous

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Like the games

night scarab
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Glad he didn’t say Chaos Control

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if it was faithful knuckles would one shot him

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The fact that Shadow never said chaos control is CRIMINAL

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SO many kids would have had those words embedded in their mind if the movie did, but

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Nothing

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He just blips about with no regard for the osmosis 😔

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But it also highlights just how cool the game is whenever it has a cutscene where he says it before activating it

sick coyote
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talk about low budget film adaptations

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no references or game quotes?

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we're outta here

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high anvil
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Sonic Movies

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ngl

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How to train your dragon trilogy is like that

ember talon
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HTTYD peak trilogy movie 🗿

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LMAO

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?

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It’s been rumored for a while we’d get a Super Shadow BaB. We got one for Super Sonic after Movie 2 so it would make sense if we got one for Shadow after Sonic 3

mossy imp
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What's a bab

dusky garnet
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Build a Bear.

mossy imp
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Oh

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I can't

stuck nebula
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It looks dirty

fallen harness
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He’s an online exclusive

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not spending 170 dollars from a third party

delicate galleon
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Sonic 3 only wins Favorite Villain at the KCAs

stuck nebula
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I didn't watch the KCA cause I'm not a kid. What was Sonic 3 nominated for?

delicate galleon
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Oh that’s….

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Nooooo

fervent jacinth
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Account with a what

ember talon
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Ayo?

indigo vapor
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  1. You didn’t ping me
  2. What happened?
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I feel the same as Sonic in this image

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