#Sonic Movie
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Origami king is in this weird middle ground
between the last games and the old ones
so to the fans it is far more frustrating
There is a lot of weirs love for color splash nowdays
because it's clear they have the intention but they either don't want or can't
Probably new fans
Hopefully the thousand year door remake helped Nintendo to get why people love that series
I hope so too
Because good god Paper Mario needs an actual redemption
Origami King did try but even then.... it's not enough
brothership tho while I have issues with the game it did a good job trying to bring the series back
Yeah. I'd say brothership got a better hang of mario & luigi as a franchise
it's not perfect but it's more adequate if it makes any sense
essentially yeah
which is something I hope Paper Mario got in a way
At least something like brothership over what made the series well appeal while being fresh ane new
Now that Thousand Year Door is the norm again
Yeah Nintendo cannot go back to the sticker star-origami king type of games after the port of thousand year door
Yeah teh reeception shows a huge difference
It's not even just nostalgia, people really love TTYD and they don't over the newer games for a reason
TTYD is just a really charming game
even Super Paper Mario would've been better received
Like at first I thought it's just paper mario fans just being all bias
than either of the three recent
But after playing the switch version I can legit understand why
Honestly what i want next is for prtners to have more banter between eachother
Than just switch around most of the time
That's one of the main thing I love about rpgs. Hoping they'll do that too
I would love a port of that game
Godzilla v Kong 3 is probably beating both films out if one of em doesn’t move btw.
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But yeah, People like Link, and I’m sure Nintendo fans/legend of Zelda fans have good pull when it comes to the movies if we’re going by factors of the Mario movie’s success.
But Link ain’t no damn Mario is what I’m saying, despite his popularity.
People still call him/think he’s Zelda, so it’s a matter of how much appeal they can get from the general public with whatever casting decisions they do.
But it does have the advantage of being a “new” IP, and a jumping on point rather than being a sequel like Sonic or GVK. Who are both building out sagas atm ig. Which is a bit harder to ask people to tune in for, if they aren’t caught up with the other stuff.
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I mean the Mv is popular, but it isn’t Sonic or Zelda levels of popular
It’s not so much of a monster verse thing as much as it’s a Godzilla thing in this case
If he’s attached, it’s just gonna sell fairly good
And usually bigger, if we’re going by how those films have outgrossed Sonic. But anything is possible
I’ve been lurking for like a week
I guess that’s something, but I constantly think about kotm and how it disappointed at the box office cause there was so much competition
And how GvK and GxK made good money cause there was barely any competition when they released
"Sonic peaked at Adventure 2" fans:
He actually peaked at sonic 3 and knuckles but you're not ready for that conversation
do we expect anything
I'm in the same boat
Mhm
If it's anything sonic 4 related, it'll just be a passing mention of it being on the slate and that's it.
I don't expect anything substantial
But anything outside of that? I think there's a small chance of some kind of announcement of a spinoff project.
If it's theatrical
i feel like they may announce shadow spin off and thats all
It'd be neat if they announced a spin-off, but that's kind of it
No TV show announcements, that doesn't tend to happen. I say that because some were anticipating knuckles getting some info last time.
please don't announce anything for Paramount Plus, if Shadow spinoff is exclusive to that I will kill them
using Chaos Blast
I'm just trying to see if it's really over for the transformers
there’s not gonna be anything, it’s too early
Or some info on that last Ronin movie & mutant mayhem 2.
even in regards to a spinoff, I feel like they may wait until June
They didn't wait too long to announce that knuckles spinoff, but that might have been a special case I. That regard lol
Considering we didn't get a shadow spinoff announcement before sonic 3's release.
hey they are showing Sonic (as part of an old movies montage)
It’s made by the original creators and it’s animated by Flying Bark also it’s the original team avatar
it's basically 500 at least, even though it did not cross that
something something what’s the difference
both blue people
All prices USD
Domestic run finally ended on March 27th
111 theaters held screenings for it that day, totaling $7,207, averaging $64 per theater.
Final domestic tally:
$236,115,100
Total box office gross is $491.12 million
Hell of a performance.
Not Mario levels of revenue, but hey, it still is successful
What does make it? Over 1.2 Billion in earned revenue across the trilogy?
$1.363 billion
491.12 ain't too bad, Its a little less then half a billion.
Hopefully it gets a release to push it to 500 down the road
Just for that nice even number
Overall pretty solid and consistent growth
Ofc we always expect more, but this is a fine middle ground
Next movie will need to count on Amy bring in untapped audience
It will be a tough battle cause I think by now movie 3 has exhausted the young boys audience interested in Sonic
And there will be diminishing returns there that need to be offset by young girls
Huh. Not a bad start for a trilogy.
By that same notation , one also has to measure how much they will into it so as to not exclude the previous audience.
If it were to follow this trend, it could lead to Amy, Cream, and Rouge making their debuts in the next trilogy.
Sliver, Blaze and whoever else they decide to bring on can be determined by the success of Sonic 4 onwards.
But that's all dancing around the main question:
How do you do it in a way that speaks to young girls without coming of as pandering, pretentious, or inauthentic?
Better yet, without alienating audiences already interested in the series?
Amy, Blaze, Cream, Rouge etc are characters first, females second.
It's important that audiences feel represented sure, but it's also way too easy to overthink how to approach this
good money :)
I think you just pander and be pretentious and inauthentic lol
Whatever helps it sell at this point
At this point the movies have established what they are
Fun goofy energy and like you teach kids a very straightforward lesson about friends and family
movie sonic is scary
Fair enough
Real ones know this little blue bastard folds 99% of the MCU
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God that looks so fucking UGLY
I took a picture and sharpened it and it made it so much better guys omg 🥹
no.
Because i never learned subtlety when it comes to making jokes
why is the footage so saturated
Because people who don't have any taste (most people) think that it looks better this way
I honestly really don't think an animated sonic film would make a billion dollars.
Doesn't mean I don't wanna see it one day ofc.
Just that sonic ain't no mario atm in terms of appeal & other aspects.
Even with the gradual uphill growth going on.
If you aren't a big IP, an animated movie won't ever reach that, yeah
just the first spiderverse alone was the CBM with less revenue of 2018
and it should had gotten big numbers given it still uses Spider-man as an IP
(across did but that' after the first spiderverse got some prestigee but the current panorama of CBM's allowed it to stand out)
*across
Beyond is the one we're waiting for😭
Ops my bad, let me correct
I didn't remember the word was across
Yep
There was no doubt in my mind ngl, it's a sad truth
Not even this
If they had went the animated route
We wouldn't have had 3 movies in 4 yrs either
It'd make like, half the box office
He can't even beat steve
MCU Steve is hard defeated by Sonic
just by virtue that he could not do much against Quicksilver
Steve minecraft
i've played mash, sonic getting bodied by steve

I mean you can play as sonic (skin) in minecraft (bedrock) through DLC and as sonic he has the same arsenal & stats as steve. Sounds like a fair fight 
It does.
Thank you sonic 2 movie for saving Knuckles's char 🙏
man.
yall asked for it
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the fact that this could happen in canon😭 (without the swearing of course)
We are one week from today, Until the physical release of Sonic Movie 3
Seeing Natasha Rosswell's account on twitter is very funny yet based
Natasha Rothwell is based for tweeting that btw
Just noticed that the Corridor Crew did another one of those VFX Artist react videos, And this time it features Sonic Movie 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_t0ONKeldc
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I'm watching the video, for some reason the vfx artists can't figure out what's real and what's cgi, the cgi in the movie is so good and blends with the live action
in particular in the Shadow scene in Tokyo
one of them thinks Gerald is Eggman's father but they are using can you feel the sunshine for the montage (?)
I'm confused
When they show the Robotnik dancing scene, They replaced the music with Super Sonic Racing
Ok?
Super Sonic Racing seems to fit that scene better then the song they used
No it fucking doesn't, the scene was made with Galvanize in mind
One of them never played a sonic game apparently
I love hearing the details on how some of the shots are made, especially the scenes where both Robotniks are in the same scene.
Its a testament on how good CGI is becoming, If you can't tell if its real or CGI, They done there job.
God I hope they secure Kimiko Glenn for Amy
Tyson has said that their eyes are always scanning fandom talk/spaces about the films or otherwise, so there's no doubt that hasn't crossed their radar in pre-production.
Please, Kimiko Glenn is perfect for Amy
Tyson is a blessing
Hopefully with some decent people on the team this also means they won't screw up the character...?
Maybe for once having a well written female character in a big hollywood movie. Hell of a pipedream I know
With Tyson around, I don't think so. Or at least they'll be given very broad pointers by him & SEGA, who work with the writers.
That and Pat Casey at least gets the fact that she's a pretty bouncy/colorful character even before sonic 3.
I gotta find that one interview again one day.
Yeah
She is a very energetic person
and the sonic movies have respected the nuances of the Sonic-shaped characters while also adding flare that makes them unique
that has worked out more often than not
they kinda fumbled Tails a little at first but there was some good course correction in movie 3
A little, but it was more that he didn't have much screen time in 2
rather than him being a character that didn't work per se
if it makes sense
I just hated the sonic hyper-fanboy shtick
and the "ONLY SONIC THE HEDGEHOG COULD-" like shut, the fuck up
oh yeah makes sense
I wonder how they're gonna start off movie 4.
Movie 3's end credit scene was the first one to directly follow up after the events of the film/sonic encountering the new character in said scene.
So are they gonna retcon it, or pull an NWH, and just pick up right there.
(I still suggest beginning the movie with a ghost in the shell inspired sequence of metal sonic being created, but I'll let them cook.)
Speaking of, I remember seeing an idea around here where, Neo Metal would disguise himself as Eggman, and that's how Jim Carrey comes back (if he does)
probably a bit of both
NWH retconned peter's suit of FFH
It did?
Yeah. The NWH and FFH suits are different in a few areas
are we sure it might not just be a cgi thing
cause the actual real life suit and the CG one look kinda different in some ways
Huh
can't believe it took me 4 years to notice this
oh my god wait NWH was 4 years ago

Mind you it looks better in some places than in ffh
Yeah, they streamlined a bit the belt area, making it more of a one-piece rather than two like in ffh
I just wish they didn't feel the need to cgi all over these suits
cause they can look amazing
Yeah, it's a shame
the one thing I pray for in Spidey 4 other than it not being a multiversal movie
I do have faith in the director
We shall see what happens
Destin is a great director
Shang-Chi is so well directed
The rumor mills go that it's gonna be a mr negative movie
and I would be so fucking down for that
it makes sense, they introduced that company of service ever since Far From Home which is lead by Mr. Negative in the comics and ps4 Spider-man
he could be a pretty good trilogy throughline aswell come to think
A black suit Spidey facing him could make for some really cool parallels
Tbh I disagree, Tails and Knuckles both had arcs in movie 2 while in 3 they only have teamwork with Sonic going on, it's just literally Knuckles stole the show in Sonic 2
But I liked the work on Tails in 2
More than in 3, I think the movie was focusing on the 2 hedgehogs and 2 Robotniks
So for me Tails in Sonic 2 > Tails in Sonic 3
Same for Knuckles
It's just Sonic 3 is more balanced between Tails and Knuckles as team mates
What helps too is just seeing Tails specifically having more actual agency and not being knocked out for a good chunk of the plot
and then needing to be rescued by Maddie & Rachel
Preordered the Shadow steelbook just in time 
they should ATSV it instead
The rain effects look amazing ngl
I think that guy is speaking facts
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I dont like the idea of just maddie needs to be center cuz she’s the girl
Yea i dont mind maddie taking more of a role than tom but i dont want it to be just cuz of “romantic advice” or “girlpower”
I just need more tika sumpter
Marsden has had pure custody of a trilogy
He’s going back to marvel, he been talking about cyclops like an accolade for the last 8 years he’s been out
He ain’t making the full cut on Sonic 4’s filming, GET TIKA IN THERE
Justin if they’ve started filming on doomsday and sonic 4 hasn’t doesn’t that mean there’s still a big enough window where they can squeeze Marsden in
Crazy how Minecraft Movie has a vinyl record before Sonic 3
Also how tf is it sold out
Minecraft got pull
Just so that you can have Maddie interacting with Amy Rose
You have the Tom and Sonic dynamic, So imagine a Maddie and Amy dynamic
Honestly that could work out very well
We just need more Maddie in general
agreed
I just feel like having maddie interact with Amy will help her a lot. Sure with girl talk but it'll bring a very good interaction between the two
It was cool af for like the first episode of Knuckles that she got to have a more predominant presence but then she stopped appearing altogether
Like for example, Maddie and Amy bonding, and at some point, Maddie finds a dress she used to wear as a kid, And she gives it to Amy, Which is how she gets that classic uniform.
Tika is pretty great with what little she’s given as Maddie so seeing her have a more active role would be nice
she had to really push for more to do in 2 and it ended up the highpoint for her, only to get cut back in 3 (albeit along with nearly every other non-robotnik human character there lol)
Jeff & the writers have even acknowledged that as more characters from the games get brought in, it's becoming a gradual battle for screentime each film for established characters.
Which I think almost every project runs into that obstacle and have to work around it.
Which makes me wonder if Knuckles & Taild will ge involved in the main plot come 4, or if they'll do their own side thing while Sonic is paired up with Amy on whatever future/ possible off world shenanigans.
Which just made me realize, those two don't know where tf sonic went cause he was an overachiever in the race
"erm, but 6/10 on ign how could they do this😡😡😡😡😡😡"
IGN just rides on waves of success imo
Sonic 3 was acclaimed so let's put it 1st place
street fighter placing in the top ten, based
adore raul julia as bison, legendary casting
Putting the 2018 Tomb Raider movie in top 5 is kinda crazy ngl
tbf they said that they dont put another sonic movies because it would be unfair
I can understand that
I don't care about that, I care more about the erasure of the Tomb Raider movies with Angelina Jolie
Especially since the 3rd movie is way better than the other two
The one where she punches a sharky?
Sure
They should have put resident evil the final chapter on the list ngl
revolutionary editing choices
revolutionary script
Revolutionary (positive) or revolutionary (derogatory)?
Derogatory
Ok I figured lmao
Cuz I remember seeing one of the more recent RE movies on TV and it sure was uhhhhh unwatchable
Doom would make for a good Secret Level episode ngl
Even without the halo crossover
Oh yea I heard the silent hill films exist
Were they any good?
I want to say people liked one of the 2, but I don't remember which one
Both
If you were referring to Doom: Annihilation.... it's for the best.
not even that one
im talking the original
The one by Uwe Boll?
Even more so
Tax Evasion Scheme in Germany, it was used for.
In that case, what Uwe did was deliberately make cataclysmic box office blowups to exploit a loophole in German Tax law.
Where "Taxes had be paid on any returns the movie made back."
Doom was directed by different director
The guy later passed away.
Uwe even ask for boxing ring
Uwe directed a lot of bad shit movies adapted from a video games
I wouldn't be against that.
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I hope you get bit by a snake
I think we'll see an evolution of Metal Sonic, The 3rd act will be Metal Overlord
Sonic 3 releases physically tomorrow, Hope I get my copy, It says arriving tomorrow, but it hasn't shipped
Says the guy that puts autographs all his stuff lol
Technically you don't need any Sonic movie... I mean...
Somebody broke the street date and got it early
No it’s not
Ok
UK has it early
of course
you know he's right
Henry 💀
Ok
So it shipped this morning, and should be here today.
Mine won’t get here till May lmao
It's at a Miami warehouse, so it'll be here later
It's finally here
Just two evil geniuses casually dropping 45-letter words in 5 languages.
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Co-producer Tyson Hesse and screenwriters Pat Casey & Josh Miller talk with us about crafting the Sonic the Hedgehog movie trilogy. Although we do talk about Sonic 3 (in theaters now), you'll be pleased to know we avoided spoilers, so listen in confidence.
For more Josh Miller: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/best-movies-never-made/id1450...
Idk if I ever shared this, but this has some really meaty information on how the internal workings of the movies & game stuff goes on.
More specifically, Tyson talking about his own involvement in the recent lore team
Which
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Was created off the heels of movie 1.
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There was a "lore team" before then, but it was more so just individuals within SEGA on sonic projects just giving their tidbits.
- The lore team (going at least by this time frame of when the podcast episode was made.) Doesn't have extreme power to make changes.
And or make changes in their favor solely, these are sonic team or sega approved things
(In reference to them no longer using the logic of two planets, and settling on one singular planet.)
I'll keep putting in information for anyone that can't watch it rn.
Also, SEGA had very little to give to Pat Casey & Josh Miller in terms of mandates or requirements that they saw as necessary or strict, excluding the two world logic.
Originally, they wanted sonic to live on earth at the beginning just on a far off island.
Very interesting
The chaos emeralds and their place in the movieverse is still relatively in flux, even post movie 3 in terms of how they function & should be used narratively.
When they were introduced in movie 2, they refrained from having them be seperate entities because it would prompt a quest to find 8 different mcguffins.
And coming off the heels of avengers endgame, they didn't want to ride off of that narrative wave.
Yeah it makes sense. People would find them a rip-off
And it's a conversation that does happen within fandoms
(Mr. Knight in Moon Knight had some talks about being a Deadpool-wanna be due to how the suit looks)
Earlier iterations of Gerald's inclusion had a version of him being aome kind of chaos energy ghost.
Or a time ghost of some variety, the main idea being that he wouldve gotten stuck in the middle of Shadow's chaos control in the past and had him in this state of limbo.
Another facet of Tyson Hesse's involvement with the films is to give pointers of "This is how the games are, this is how fans will receive your changes." And they can tweak or not tweak whatever is relevant to that (Gerlad robotnik for example.)
The writing side/development angle of these movies is not the creatives just doing whatever they want & not caring what the fans will think.
What is seen on the silver screen is the act of multiple peoples ideas & changes in a collaborative effort, that doesn't just boil down to "it was the writers" or "it was the director".
Yeah that's how the process usually is
It's a back and forth between multiple parts
Makes sense due yo the fact back in the 2010's sega made a retcon that most the sonic games is mainly set on two worlds, the human world (earth) & sonic's world.
I remember i heard in sonic movie 1, one pitch that sonic was a space criminal, he stole a chaos emerald and head to earth snd tricks all of the humans there that he's the good until he goes through an arc to no longer be a criminal and actually be a hero once robotnik first came into his life.
Mutation pitch?
Didn’t hear about that one
Heard about the early Sony Scooby-esque pitch tho awhile back
Never heard of it but, i am interested.
The chaos emeralds would fall onto an off the grid island, mutating the animals into mobians over the course of history before a society & therefor a majority of the cast (Sonic & co.) would be established on one setting.
Sonic served as the protector of the island, before eggman was sent by the government to capture his friends or the chaos emeralds that were keeping the forest alive.
Sonic would then proceed to chase eggman down back to America to get and even, and that's as far as we know.
I think it was along those lines, yeah
By friends, like tails, knuckles, amy & ect? Or just the small animals that sonic frees in the classic games?
They kind of inferred that it'd be the characters we know/his friends more than the little critters.
So it's just sonic's friends being useless again.
Ngl it would be pretty cool in the game canon that the chaos emeralds are the reason why there are have humanoid characters and surealistlic locations on earth (sonic's world)
I hate this tbh
I don’t think there was any way to go about it, other than having them be in one place.
Unless it was a 3 hour film maybe, but that’s pushing it in terms of narrative construction for a film lol
Being in the master emerald? I could take or leave it, but it was the middle ground that was met with SEGA from what they said at least ig.
I dont like the idea of "some other thing did some stuff, so a fundamental piece of our universe had to be changed" thats bleh to me
Especially now considering marvel has fallen out of favor with so many. Ultimately the films turned outfine but i genuinely hate that idea.
The thing is that it would not had worked very well because Infinity war had 18 movies behind which made it have the location of 5 of the infinity stones in easy locations
Yeah I get it, but they aren’t the first to feel that way/write around that concept.
and only have to really explain 1
with the chaos emeralds, they'd have to contextualize all 7 of them
No writer wants their work to be referenced as “oh it’s just like ‘such & such’. Which wouldn’t be a problem with Sonic fans, as much as it would be a problem with general audiences who only know that as a reference.
There aren’t many films with multi colored gem stones that hold extraordinary powers, that require you to go globe trotting to collect them so I get it from a writers/film making perspective.
X made it this way but it's because it's a series, it can take more time to elaborate on the position of each emerald in a particular episode
In a better world, movies would be able to define themselves on their own but with audiences that are so quick to claim movies copy one another or are derivative or unoriginal at the little sight of similarities, I see more and more creatives trying to weave around that.
Yeah it's understandable
Didn’t mean to go on a whole tangent, either way I get what you mean village.
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the movie one sonic looks so smooth
the details are there for sure but are barely visible
I think that's why it looks a lil better
tbf, only so much you can iron out when you have to redesign and reanimate the blue fucker in like, 6 months lmao
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The scores ...
This shit should've played in the movie
We need this mf for the tracks in 4 bruh
nickelodeon censorships are so funny because what do you call this 😭
Quoting SwagKirb (@Swag_K1RBY)
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donkey
They could have done the beep
weak, dolphin noises
The fact that they could've just cut part of the scene lol
They KH2'd the movie
LMFAOOO
Awww lil bwaby can't little words awww 
The mad genius can’t speak basic words fucking doo doo head
Well I have to save my Donkey
Couldn't even just like, skip to planet 
"Time to say goodbye to this.... starts running"
I downloaded the wrong sonic movie bro what is happening right now
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Had to tell him I am the only one allowed to thirst for jacked women
the flames of gaydaster 
Nothing actively in the works huh
Honestly? I am glad they confirm that. Gives more room for sonic 4 movie development
How? There's already a confirmed date for the movies release
also the source says that sonic 3 grossed $514M so i guess we hit 500M mark at the end
As much as I want more movies I don’t want them to over milk the franchise for films
I mean we already hit the point of no return
Total franchise had grossed over a billion at this point, already had a streaming-exclusive spin off miniseries, and now we're getting a 4th film
Yeah it already managed to be successful enough after 3 movies straight. Helps even more considering with Shadow's impact
This train's gonna keep rolling until a film makes less than expected projections, causing Paramount to lose all interest
Yeah it's generally how things work when it comes to movies. It helps even more for SEGA considering that Sonic is slowly going to get bigger than ever
Oh i mean the spinoffs
Not surprised about this
Not you😭
Wait is this true? In the article, since you can only read by paying
can confirm it is true
Great
basically
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LMFAOOOOO
I WANT MY SHADOW MOVIE NOW!!!!
Would be really cool if true.
The Sonic Cinematic Universe™️ be gettin’ crazy
He should really be focusing on the Skibidi Toilet movie smh
but will the soundtrack be done by Kavinsky?
At least yours arrived
Hate to be the bearer of correcting misinformation, but the article stated that the box office gross was adjusted for inflation.
Bruh
It just came out
That's an absurd amount of inflation
Good grief
4%?
That just pissed me off lol
@half pumice probably of high interest to you
For the record, this is a prototype of the Genesis cartridge, not the film itself
someone oughtta dump the rom already
the roblox remake is cool and all but what about the real thing
put it on nso, cowards
better yet put knuckles chaotix on nso
Could be fun.
Total revenue for the film has been at $465 million, including theatrical and home media releases.
Expenses include $122 million for production of the film, $125 million in marketing, and $94.4 million in residuals, interest, and the like, totaling $341.4 million in expenses.
Mhm
this prob doesnt include revenue from merch either, right?
bc for a movie like this merch is usually a big source of revenue
Maybe, maybe not.
This tidbit is mentioned in the article, though.
"Paramount participates with Sega in Sonic the Hedgehog picture-related merchandising, meaning that the studio holds rights and Sega administers the merchandising."
oh
last year they count merch sales of TMNT and they mentioned it int he article so i guess thsi time they dont count merch
I thought it ended at 491 ?
Box office is not taken into account
Well the number is based off the same metrics
Maybe this is the revenue for Paramount only
That's a lot of money from streaming and home entertainment
Also Paramout gets a... 46-47% cut of the BO
Lmfao

In the event that paramount goes under with all this building and unbuilding debt they have going on
What’s the likelihood that the Sonic movies as we know them in this continuity could continue under a different studio?
I know that’s sorta kinda the case with angry birds 3, it is but it isn’t a sony picture, while being distributed by paramount.
Sorta, but not really. Sony isn't doing the animation for the third film - its spread out across different studios
As for the likelihood that the SCU could continue under a different distributor? No idea.
very unlikely, they’ll drag those specific rights down to them to the grave
It’s quite amazing that the Sonic movies are the only series from the start to have fresh ratings for every film in the franchise
Yeah. It's a very cool thing to see. Not only that but how each movie has improved to the eyes of the critics
That's legit impressive
The fact that it's 3 times in a row is insane
Sonic Movie series managed to appeal the movie audience very well
im glad they happened since thanks to them, sonic is in the best position he's been in since like...
1994 :p
Easily for sure
or 2004 i think?
The movie series gave Sonic the push it really needs
idk
I'll honestly say since SA2
As more time passes by I think there's definitely a couple of ways that sonic 4 could one up sonic 3.
I know there's a handful of people that swe SA2 as the pinnacle of sonic stories & sonic 3 felt like the pinnacle of the movies, in terms of improvements in a lot of areas the last 2 films lacked.
One of those things being the fantastical world(s).
I think above anything, that is the most plausible considering Amy's inclusion.
On top of video game movies in general embracing the iconic scenery from their source material (Mario, Minecraft.) I at the very least think that Paramount would give it the greenlight, more so when the writers have also shown interest.
Second, maturing the storyline with the audience even further (which Jeff has expressed he wants to do with the films already.)
Sonic 3 carried good momentum of stakes & seriousness, and I don't think that has to die just because shadow won't be the second main character & revert back to mostly 'family movie' moments.
I'd say, since they're adapting sonic CD, we're gonna have some type of bad future with eggman supposedly ruling; maybe they could really highlight a dictatorship & pollution of a planet?
4 months have passed
How does everyone feel about sonic 3?
still pretty solid
As someone who straight up doesnt watch movies
Sonic 3 was fine but i’m not really thinking to rewatch it
That’s for this whole trilogy too
They have high moments and scenes but for the most part, i am disinterested
I do enjoy it but I don't normally bother rewatching movies at all due to their length
I also think aside from shadow nothing really captivated me
I’d rewatch the movie but if it was the only thing I could watch for a year, I’d probably be sick of it
Say that to the person that watched it 100 times on theater
I still can’t believe they really did that😭
Watched it again with a friend seeing it for the first time yesterday
Still solid
He thinks it's easily the best one
Also
I remembered something that threw me off the first time i saw the movie (but i forgot to point it out then)
How tf
When sonic is checking the old gun base
Is the popcorn still intact
After like 50 years
Probably not
After a couple of days popcorn tends to get wrinkly
So after a 50 years it’s either decomposed or dust
went to a sonic event on Friday on my campus and we watched it
Still good
Haven't watched it ever since the last time
so I'll rewatch it later to see what's up
later on maybe
homework has been kicking my ass with time
Amazing movie
out of the 3 definetly the best one
my only problem with it is how the story feels like it was cut a lot
Still great imo.
Still interested in hearing Jeff's "Dream sonic movie 3" though.
Yeah but this is revenge popcorn
Sonic 3 is the first sonic movie where it actually feels like it's not ashamed about the fact it's a video game adaptation
I still wish they went further in a lot of areas, especially with the music, but actually having music featured more prominently with live and learn being present throughout the ehole movie was a HUGE improvement from sonic 2 just having tue drowning theme hidden in the background
Or how it just ripped off music from ant-man for the big sonic and knuckles fight
still salty about that, the big fight, and you couldn't even be arsed to compose something new for it
Yeah I can't argue with that
But it always happens with Knuckles. Why they keep doing this to mah boi? 😔
Also needle drops here were a MUCH better selection imo
The picks in 3 were a MUCH better fit for sonic compared to what they had in the first 2 films
to me the weakest part of Sonic 3 was Gerald
He wasn’t a particularly interesting character at all and it really feels like it is just a bone to Jim Carrey rather than a cool choice
And the problem is that he is Very prominent
I still wish that when Gerald revealed his suicide mission, he completely dropped the funny grandparent act and just became a insane piece of shit
It feels he had more lines than Knuckles and Tails combined, even if might not be the case
I feel like for Gerald it shows that he really isn't meant to be main focus where he isn't normally the main focus due to Shadow and Maria, and Sonic 3 movie.... really shows
Gerald himself is always fine as a char don't get me wrong but never meant to be the main focus
He really should've dropped the goofiness after the "you're no maria" moment
We have gradually seen the process of "let the creative team do what they want, and as a studio back off and trust the process."
Along with "Tyson Hesse is a key part of the process"
that’s what I’m saying
Yeah they fucked that one up the most
I feel like that's the biggest flaw over Sonic 3 movie imho
They had bits earlier on that made me think they were gonna go that route, but they didn't
Deadass through an interview, Sony had no intention of sonic being the main character of his own movie when they had it.
Like the bit where he's just like "SO I'M BURNING IT ALL DOWN" was so good and then he went back into chucklefuck mode before going
If I had to compare movie and game, I'd say gerald is better utilized here
but his characterization holds him back
The pro's and con's of having Jim Carrey
He deadass has leeway to do whatever he wants
while sa2 specifically gerald hits harder with the twits but also it's an exposition dump that just appears at the end
“I’m burning it all down!”
Not even 20 minutes later is being a fucking silly chucklefuck playing tag with scorpion nanobots
Very rarely and I don't think ever, do they reign him back in outside of budgetary things they couldn't afford.
Jim Carrey I do love and respect but he is always meant to be as Eggman
Never Gerald at all
Agreed
Main thing with Eggman is that he can be a serious threat while being goofy whereas for Gerald? He is filled with pure revenge and anger
It's genius in the way it's a good selling point to get your parents to watch it or something, but the aftermath as a fan it's kinda like..really the best tho?
Ig he fit for the narrative of movie robotnik's grandfather more than game eggman's and the story they told
It works for casual audiences the best but for fans, not really as much
Which you can't always avoid ofc
people who aren't really sonic fans that I know just talk to me about having a blast with Gerald
but my position as a fan who knows the stuff of sa2-shadow 05-battle makes that a really weird pill to digest
(I won't count shadow gens because they were developed around at the same time so it would be unfair to use it against them aside from some brand synergy here and there)
He's more fitting for this world and this eggman specifically
Game Eggman is not that over the top either personality wise
sure he has the badniks and wants to conquer the world, but he's far more grounded
you don't see him do many Jim Carrey shenanigance
and the comedy that comes usually is at the expense of Eggman
rather than coming from him directly
Ngl i dont see the problem with game eggman being over the top
And ngl
He is
Not jim carrey level but he is
yeah, that's what I say
just that game Eggman is not full of jim carrey stuff
like you won't have eggman randomly dancing while being chased by a holographic dinosaur
or acting like a robot from time to time
I feel like it's more so the difference is that Jim Carrey tends to push the goofy side really hard depending on what char he is portraying
It already works for Eggman since he is a mix between goofy and serious
Gerald is not and why he feels very underwhelming in the movie
The thing with Gerald is less that he isn't
and more so that we didn't get so see much of how he is outside of the ark raid
Yeah there is that
like post sa2 content before Shadow gens only do two things:
- facilitate lore via exposition
- portray him as some sort of messiah or victory card
(battle and rivals 2, and shadow 05 respectively)
Shadow Gens is really the first time where we see more of how Gerald actually is
which wasn't that far off of Eggman himself
just not as insane I suppose
but he did have his fair share of excentricities and goofyness to him
such as the ARK having his face and a few other bits
there wasn't enough of Game Gerald to truly give us an idea that he could be goofy enough for the Movie universe to go that route
Unlike Pachacamac which I cannot really apply this thought process
Pacahamac is so weird????
Like it was way too random looking back 💀
But fuck man.... I really hope it means they are building up for Chaos and Tikal after with Amy because there is no reason he just suddenly show up like that before Shadow getting an actual appearance or any other sonic chars
Pachacamac was a weird addition, although I liked his chillness
it was a bit weird given games Pachacamac is more severe
guess he could not be that anymore given he is dead
That I can at least get
If you become a spirit you at least have more erm......
Time I guess to know about the consequences, so I guess pacahamac realized what he has done after his death (Most likely Tikal)
But fuck man I really hope Sonic 5 Movie leads up to it now we finally got Amy and Metal Sonic
You can easily fit Shadow for this too because chaos powers
It's the perfect opportunity to get to know both Chaos and Tikal since Chaos suffers the similar fate as Shadow while Tikal will make Shadow reminded of Maria in a bit
I really hope honestly
It would be full circle given the artifical chaos are done based on Chaos
and Shadow now helps with the real thing?
When they adapt Adventure I will be there for it for sure
Same
Same
Same
SA1 adaptation has HUGE amount of potential you can do
The fact that they even have Shadow is perfect
Shadow can perfectly fit in SA1 adaptation so well
If they play it doesn’t matter, believe in myself, and open your heart all in the same movie I’m gonna absolutely cry tears of joy
I'd say adventure 2 was very well adapted. A few cavebeats here and there, but generally they did very well with the movie
Honestly I'll say the adapations overall well put out
Having both Sonic 2 and 3 (games) being a mix works very well for each others
While SA2 taking some very few traits from Shth over to Sonic 3 movie
Makes me hope Sonic 4 movie does that with CD and Heroes (Mainly with neo metal sonic)
All imma say is if we don’t get what I’m made of in 4 I won’t be angry, but my disappointment will be immeasurable
I do get people wanting Heroes to be later with the teams and all but I have to be real
That one is very easy to get adapted due to neo metal sonic considering 3 major things
He scanned mainly with Sonic first
Then with chaos energy related in some form (Like Chocolo and Froggy or the Master Emerald)
and then Shadow
I honestly don't think you really need to adapt heroes strictly
and, instead, should be combined with CD like you say sgm
Exactly. Heroes is very easy to do when it comes to adaptation
Heroes story on it's own is very minimalistic, and the team stuff doesn't really add anything other than the basic theme of team work.
what did Metal Madness need to transform again
he just got the data of everyone + chaos to transform into metal madness then overlord is the complete version of that
The bio-data of the other characters
Ohhh ok
literally what I mentioned
With the chaos energy: Knuckles, Tails, and Amy will be involved due to having their own traits
Sonic 4 movie in a nutshell can easily demostrate what the chaos energy's real capability due to Metal Sonic
Since the main thing I notice over the sonic movie series is that they tend to centered around over it for different reasons
Mhm
This will be a fun ride
At the very least, I have faith that this adaptation is better than Archie's
(yeah didn't like the CD adaptation of Archie comics)
It's another reason why I wanted Chaos to show up since it's literally freaking Chaos. Chaos has the best buildup after getting the core cast
Due to not only chaos energy but can harness the negative power of the chaos emeralds while it further developed Sonic's char over what it means to be a hero
ehhhhh, the cutting of the twitch streamer subplot means at the very least he doesn't have complete leeway, there is some room for influence from others
(and for the better, as much as it guts out a big part of eggman's drive in 3 it also rrrrrrrreally wasn't good and 100% needed cutting lmao)
I do think at points as Gerald he's maybe hamming it up sliiiiightly too much but like, not to a point where I'm taken outta what's happening, its not like the first film where he's the only thing holding it all together and it rides or dies on his antics
Family got a new TV and it’s an 85in screen so I had to watch one of the best films on it
God seeing shadow smiling like that is just so good 🙏
Honestly really heartwarming to see him having the time of his life fighting robots alongside the person who he once tried to kill
If we ever get a Shadow spinoff movie I’m praying they have Sonic absolutely happy Shadow is alive
it was so cool
and the way shadow helps it's just so satisfying
85 inches?!?
I think my tv's like, around 30 lol, jesus christ thats a monster of a telly
How much was the tv for 85in
My mom wanted a 95in TV 😭

I'm guessing the 100inch was too much
by this point just move into a cinema lmao
Isn’t it possible for people to get whole ass theatres in their homes
That's a luxury for people with a literal metric fuckton of money
Yea fair
bro those shits tend to be in the quadruple digits
digits that don't start with 1
hell sometimes
they'll even be in the pentuple digits
THATS WHAT I SAID
hi
Jello
As a Ratchet and Clank fan, OUCH
Nice
i mean hey...
it's better than borderlands
true lol
I always forget that movie was a thing
a film so unfunny that not even jack black was funny
and unfunny jack black is like having a sonic soundtrack composed entirely of midi instruments
is bad :(
christ, even the minecraft movie had some funny jack black moments (unintentionally, but they were still funny)
Is it bad to say I enjoy the R&C movie? Like when it released it was one of the better video game movies
The movie was basically one of those "Game: The Movie All cutscenes" videos except with a bigger budget
I've not seen the movie, but I did play the remake/reboot? and for me that felt like "Movie: The Game"
So that checks out I guess
jack black entering the washed phase of his career </3
6 years since we first saw the Sonic Movie before the redesign kicked in... could you imagine what the other Sonic Movies would've looked like had Sonic not been redesigned?
Wouldn't be any other sonic movies I think
Pretty much.
How the movie boys would react if Tom and Maddie have another baby
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︀︀#sonic #SonicMovie3 #SonicTheHedgehog #animatic
how would shadow react tho if sonic told him that his mom and dad were having another baby
TAILS THO
XDDDD
KFKDJXKSK NO WAY
Looks kinda AI imo lol
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
I dunno why they gotta put movies up in this format when it clearly was never meant to be seen in such an aspect ratio
bro, the sa2 cutscenes look better than this😭😭😭
This movie is not made for screen x 
does this mean I’m gonna be able to rewatch Sonic 3 for 5 more times for 1.75 each
I already love this
Your theater has better options than mine lmao
This isn’t mine, just saw a image of it but now I’m considering going to Cinemark😭
Sonic Movie 3 on ScreenX is a interesting experience 😭 #sonicmovie3 #screenx #sonic3 #sonicthehedgehog3 #shadowthehedgehog #widescreen #paramount
Seems like is just that one scene lmao
But is still funny
Why even watch films like this?
Ok some of these look good but the majority is just bleh
i feel like theres a bunch of unfinished cgi while watching movies like this
i cant believe it
6 years ago, movie trailer discourse was ruined forev-
6 years ago we got the literal fucking devil in a sonic film-
I have my own personal hypothesis that the end credit scene of 3, is the most representative of how they're going to approach sonic in 4.
Which is of course obvious, but I mean it more so that the presentation of that sequence changed all the way up to the last moment from what Pat & Josh & even Ben Schwartz has said about it.
Taking to account that the creative team isn't unaware of fan critiques & pointers, I don't think it's out of the question that it's the most current piece of writing in the film that fits as a direct response to the feeling of movie sonic having a lack of edge/confidence.
6 years ago, Sonic was truly back
Well, fans backlashed and stuff, but afterwards, he was back
:3
please gimme some
No
ok
gimme green santa hat uckle and sonic 2 wave 1 4 inch movie uckle 
and if the small movie uckle is the sonic 2 one gimme that too

KCA 2025 nominees for Favorite Movie, per press release:
- A Minecraft Movie
- Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
- Captain America: Brave New World
- Descendants: The Rise of Red
- Paddington in Peru
- Sonic the Hedgehog 3
- THUNDERBOLTS*
- Wicked
Sonic 3 is also nominated for:
- Favorite Movie Actor (Jim Carrey)
- Favorite Male Animated Voice from a Movie twice (Ben Schwartz and Keanu Reeves)
- Favorite Villian (Jim Carrey as Dr. Robotnik)
- Favorite Song from a Movie (Run It by Jelly Roll)
Wow
.....those first three ought to go.
(never seen descendants so I dunno its deal)
Was 2x Beetlejuice bad or something?
Chicken j
When the animators actually care
I have not seen any expensive CGi characters in recent years that looked like the animators didn't care
When the animators
(apparently there’s no gifs of animators making animation so fuck)
I really hope Sonic 3 win this
Not because of Sonic but more of how well faithful it did as an video game movie
I get it’s Minecraft but the more I keep seeing this movie in twitter it feels like I’m seeing ttgo all over again
💀
more KCA posting
Nah I know it’s him obviously I just wanted to bring this up considering the awards
Drew is talking about KCA
Kids Choice Awards, not anyone
I mean at this point is not really harming anybody
Yeah I know
It's just annoying af
Him who
Cartoon base or whatever his account name his lmao
Ah
Sorry just getting flashbacks to people liveposting every fucking thing that happened at KCA here for the past several years
Well not gonna happen anymore
Yeah no worries
@boreal hornet but what if they announce spongebob for crossworlds
You gotta be hyped!!!!!!
get ready to release more sonic movies paramount
me in 4028 watching Sonic 26(its a adaptation of Frontiers)
How yall doin
Make your answer rage bait it'll be funn
Sonic 06
Can't be rage bait if a meager less than 10% of people here have played it
Sonic 1 for Game Gear specifically
less than 10% have sonic mega collection plus? 
or origins plus I guess
But how many have actually played Sonic Blast specifically for more than 5 minutes
Sonic 4 has a lot of potential to be darker than sonic 3, with them going the bad future route and how it can be presented imo.
Did I say this before?
Hm not that I recall
I’ll say it does too due to metal sonic
Metal sonic writing wise can easily work as an horror like char
Probably sonic schoolhouse
I bring it here to not interrupt what is in #sonic-lobby
Takashi Iizuka, Head of Sonic Team, will be at #IGNLive on June 7 for Sonic Racing: Crossworlds!
Scoop up your tickets to attend IGN's event in downtown Los Angeles and use code IGNX for a discount! https://t.co/UXlSZ6xBXA
Does this count as Crossworlds today?

Ig so yea
IT SURE FUCKING DOES 🗣️ 🔥 💦
whelp there we go, crossworlds today jsjsj
Hey guys
crazy how this live action movie did Ohana better than the live action movie actually about ohana
#FuckDisney
Already unhappy enough how they treated lion king and now this? Disney can go fuck off
sales my ass if you can't make a good movie
Corny ass tweet 
For a corny ass franchise
With a corny ass fanbase
With corny ass individuals
“B-b-but, but the power of Ohana!”
point is live action stitch sucks 
It’s the funniest twist of fate to me, because I’ve always seen the movies, and even fan sentiment before then of how sonic stories should be, as more taken with the narrative directions of Lilo and Stitch (or other Disney movies in general) than the narratives the games were made out of
Hell that can be traced all the way back to how people viewed Tails as a character and his story, where the “younger brother” angle is more important than how his story revolves around his individualism (and makes it funnier when Sonic Team internally requires things like Sonic not deliberately saving Tails in Origins)
Now the Disney movie that is most emblematic of that found family and familial values direction is attempting to take a more “individualistic” approach, and to its own detriment 💀
it's kinda funny how the blue hedgehog embraces the family themes better
Eeeh, I’d have to see the lilo and stitch movie to make that judgement
From what I’ve heard from defenders of the direction, it sells its new ideas as positive enough that they appreciate the changes and inclusion
So long as the movie frames it as positive and uplifting the complaints will be more on a metacontextual “why would you do this” level
Hot take but I don't like Sonic being a son and living in a town with his parents
It is very cute I just don't find it fitting with the themes of the franchise
I was hoping Sonic would leave Green Hills to have new adventures in other worlds
At the end of Sonic 3
They should just do a better Lilo and Stitch movie with a better ending
Also: "Sonic is just a kid" he's growing up and maturing, he isn't the same as movie 1
He and the rest are going to have to eventually get up out of that house.
And the writers are obviously feigning for that.
But I also get that they don't want to do it and then it just comes off as an rushed justification for him to depart after sonic had so adamantly want to he apart of earth & it's culture.
That's an absolute zero take
Since Will smith appeared in Knuckles on the television, does that mean he will be silver the hedgehog.
The real questions
tom holland
Real
Been thinking about what the estimated budget for sonic 4 could be, considering sonic 3's success.
And how much that metric could qualify for some of those game locations could make a debut like the writers have wanted to do for a while now.
Sonic 1 had a budget of 85-90 million dollars, and with the little they showed of green Hill it was pretty good visually.
But very baren, which makes sense considering how much it costs to even make the CG character & assets.
Sonic 2's budget was 90-110 in budget.
Which I think heavily went into the action & CG versions of areas that were in them.
And there we had labyrinth zone, which was also pretty accurate/translated well as the sole game location.
I think just a bit more.
close enough
All of that and we still don't know who went bowling 50 years ago
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Going through a bunch of IDW stuff right now and
OUT NOW! @krisluvspitbuls joins to discuss Sonic the Hedgehog 3's terrific novelization and its, uh, "different" ending. Then we interview author kielphegley ! Listen: http://shorturl.at/lDZ45
What... exactly was that different ending...?
this might help and it's faster to check out
so basically ||Commander Walter is alive? Rockwell was mad at Sonic because she wanted the location of the Master Emerald to grab it for GUN. There is another flashback with Maria drawing herself and Shadow doodles while scientists are preoccupied with her being in the lab, the vault scene is different, and there is... no ending, the third act is not in the comic because it tells you to watch the movie instead...||
so in short, don't read the novelization... Just watch the movie again, it's peak
Nobody was gonna read it anyway 💀
?????????
||well then why even make a novelisation in the first place?||
||M O N E Y, M O N E Y, M O N E Y- Paramount/Mr. Krabs||
for the same reason they made a Sonic Prime comic with pictures of the show.....
Blame Transformers
Literally
Michael Bay was legit so pissed that a novel for one of the Transformers movies basically spoiled the ending, so he just banned them from even adapting the 3rd act
Which soon extended to like every film
That had a novel adaptation
And also released prior to the main film
Also Michael Bay being pissed off from a Transformers movie did not stop at novels
Transformers: Age of Extinction
#transformers #ageofextinction #lockdown #lucas
then just release the book alongside the movie or after the movie comes out😭😭😭😭😭😭
Is it ever explained why GUN raided the lab in the movie?
Tsundere GUN
Glad he didn’t say Chaos Control
if it was faithful knuckles would one shot him
The fact that Shadow never said chaos control is CRIMINAL
SO many kids would have had those words embedded in their mind if the movie did, but
Nothing
He just blips about with no regard for the osmosis 😔
But it also highlights just how cool the game is whenever it has a cutscene where he says it before activating it
talk about low budget film adaptations
no references or game quotes?
we're outta here
It would be cool if he say it for the first time but continously saying it in 1 scene would get very annoying
I adore that trilogy of movies
HTTYD peak trilogy movie 🗿
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LMAO
I’m actually watching the live action rn
?
It’s been rumored for a while we’d get a Super Shadow BaB. We got one for Super Sonic after Movie 2 so it would make sense if we got one for Shadow after Sonic 3
What's a bab
Build a Bear.
Oh
rerelease the knuckles one already
I can't

It looks dirty
They did awhile ago
He’s an online exclusive
that's why I said RErelease
not spending 170 dollars from a third party
Sonic 3 only wins Favorite Villain at the KCAs
I didn't watch the KCA cause I'm not a kid. What was Sonic 3 nominated for?
- Favorite Movie
- Favorite Movie Actor
- Favorite Male Voice from a Movie (Schwartz / Reeves)
- Favorite Villain
- Favorite Song from a Movie
Oh that’s….
Nooooo
Account with a what
Ayo?
@neonleon2018 wut.
- You didn’t ping me
- What happened?
I know it happened yesterday but I thought I'd share this headline
I feel the same as Sonic in this image