#Sonic Movie
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Stonehenge is from the UK
But there is also that giant clock big ben
no
😭
Open the schools
thinking about how if revenge guac was in one of the trailers the fandom would’ve had a meltdown about how they ruined shadow before it came out
the scene with shadow's capsule being painted by maria
to make him a look like a rabbid
if that visual was revealed without context, the fandom would had lost their minds
They're ruining the integrity of this profound character!!
As if dawg can’t run across water like Sonic could
And yet Sonic’s the fake
satam fans when the divorce papers are filed (it ended on a cliffhanger just like the show)
also watched Flow tonight and holy shit
holy shit what a movie
It's just their parents divorce papers
You expect them to get married?
the marriage comes first, then the interest in satam leading to their descent into madness
please spill that movie looks so fucking good
like Kafka's Metamorphosis but instead of waking up as a giant bug they wake up thinking "I would like to make out and have many children with Sally Acorn"
arguably a worse fate
that’s a sentence
Plus he is wearing fucking hover shoes
That's crazy 💀
Bruh
satam fans should give up on their show and watch deep space discounts instead
forcing satam fans to watch frankly any Gundam show
As I recall he’s never mentioned SatAM lmao
Paramount in shambles trying to secure enough real skeletons for the sally acorn merch line
I could totally see Keith David as the voice of Metal Sonic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IkNYbEHw6g
What if NEO METAL SONIC was voiced by KEITH DAVID (Spawn, The Arbiter, Dr. Facilier)
The audio is from an episode of Teen Titans
BRO I WILL LOSE IT IF SO
Oh yeah he played Tombstone in spectacular spider-man
only for one episode but yeah if he gave the right tone I could see it.
Sooooo
I got exclusive Sonic Movie merch from a crane game
Took me… all my arcade credits lol
sony/microsoft logic🤯
rewatching the supers fight and only just clocked on that the backlash from this blastoff literally splits along a fault line through sheer power
literally just tearing the earth apart in a scuffle over james marsden man what a film
already confirmed worst Amy through the sheer power of being a landlord 
That Super fight would've had a devastating affect in a crowded area
See Man of Steel on why super powered beings shouldn't fight in the middle of a city
truly shocking that the PG movie did not include the protagonist committing accidental genocide
oh oh oh shit just clocked on too
You know, when the TV spots showed the GUN building being destroyed, I thought they were actually gonna shoot at the Earth, But it was just a hypothetical situation
kinda a corn cob moment but didn't realise til now the complete difference in texture for shadow's gloves
instead of wool or fabric or whatever soft material like sonics he's got more like, sewn leather
god I love the details they put into the movie designs, incredibly cool stuff
We will talk about every minor detail
if someone went thru the effort of making it I'm gonna go thru the effort of talking about it!!
nvm changed my mind six rounds to the back of the skull please
I'd love it if they had an in-depth montage of all the details they added, I couldn't really tell since I had a slots overlay blocking 40% of the screen
There will be videos that will more then likely do a very deep dive into the movie since its out now digitally, So stuff people miss, they will be able to just find it
hope there's one which actually goes indepth instead of just like, face value stuff
tried watching one for the new wallace & gromit and it was unbearable cos it was absolutely just plain obvious shit lmao
"in this scene wallace says cracking toast gromit, this is a reference to the other times he has said cracking toast gromit" yeah cheers mate not like its a catchphrase or anything
"Gotta Crack Toast☝️"
"ummm acktually its Cracking Toast's Monster, not Cracking Toast" 
crazy to think that the movie having one ok rock can be considered game accurate
now that I think about it, that song's in the same album as vandalize I'm pretty sure
It is
what can I say except you’re welcome Sonic really loves Tom
I’m absolutely getting tired of rally4sally. Can’t they JUST moving on
Bro really wants the movies to be satam/archie 💀
Honestly I'll be happy if they went with nature vs. machine for sonic 4 movie
Probably one of the best showcases of how strong Super Sonic can be
i cant take movie sonic seriously for this reason alone 
it's too petty i cant
Nah, this is dope as hell
I love when losing your friend/parental figure can lead the main hero to the wrong path to the point of severe destruction‼️
I just love how sonic 3 movie finally demostrate how terrifying super forms can be
Agreed tbh
like they can be a symbol of hope or they can destroy entire civilizations at a time
Only feels too petty in irl terms imo, in-universe it completely tracks
the notion of having James marsden as a father figure really do be a terrifying fictional creation
Jeff Fowler shopping at my work?!
The movies never explored Robotnik's obsession with turning animals into robots, That is something they could do in Sonic Movie 4.
He has never done that in the films
how do we tell him
All his drones are remotely operated without utilizing animals. They're definitely avoiding it because it can lead to very weird moral ground especially with how the drone destruction is portrayed
Yea true, cause Sonic lasered a couple ten of them in 2 during the slow mo scene, imagine if there were animals inside of them
Game Eggman's usage of animals in badniks works fine because as soon as you break one, they just poof away and the animal goes free.
Film Robotnik's drones explode on destruction and are always elevated in the air
And they really want you to like Robotnik in the films so if they portray him as an animal abuser they basically puts them in the drones
Yea that's not gonna really look good. Would be funny to see what PETA says tho
After that one tweet (you know the one) I’m keeping my expectations open
I don't think I know the one, I don't look at or remember dumb tweets
Makes sense, and I know what it is but I don’t think I can say it because it’s extremely fucked up
Lets not forget in the adventure games when you free an animal they are in a green floating force feild for abit, i guess game eggman does think about their safety.
If we don't count sky chase zone from sonic 2 and the opening cutscene from lost world.
Can’t have working badniks if they’re dead
Sorry for bringing these folks up a couple times already
But shiiiiit, I like Sally as much as the next guy, but goddamn
Tvose two comics have ABSOLUTELY nothing in common
“Hmmm how could I make this about Sally”
“Because one day Sally will return in Sonic games and comics, as well as the movies”, he said sarcastically
Oof
The comic itself makes no sense cuz Movie Sonic's seen a woman before😭
something very incredibly funny about the thing they consider as a reference to sally being "primary-school level sexism"
your typical 90s "ew girl!!" vibe
I guess the gag is more that he never met an animal girl or somethin
Everyone who finds it the “omg girl” joke funny up your standards
I could share the same thing with you tho... How long this madness ever stop...
Let them cope
I still don’t get how it’s funny
The Sonic Movies have been some of the most hyped up and commercially successful video game adaptations of all time, even though fan reception is generally mixed. With the recent release of Sonic 3, I wanted to take a look back at EVERY Sonic movie (& the Knuckles show) that has released since 2020, see how far they've progressed, and finally ha...
YEAAAAA
and now it’s time to see what good ol toonshi thinks of sonic peak
Only Goku made that sort of Joke work in early dragon ball
(albeit it came with it's fair share of problems)
Considering Goku kept looking at panties and doesn't understand, not surprise
back then obv lmao
Yeah, the joke was funny because of his particular ignorance/unawareness of what a woman is
and his little running act to identify them
The worst "omg girl" is the lorax one
💀
the framing of this title is so funny
||he thinks it’s peak we’re so fucking back||
"I WATCHED ALL THE SONIC MOVIES" you mean all three mate
me when i mess up the spoiler message
shush😭
so did I and I'm not asking for a medal am I mate
Mr. Beast title deadass
no >:)
but you did get a medal
Literally Sonic Movie 4 https://fixupx.com/diobutfemale/status/1883068675177271344?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ
If I hear no "hue hue hue" in sonic 4 movie it's pure robbery
If we don’t get it we riot
Sad that the first thing people will think of Amy is Sonic's girlfriend, but that's just how it is
But I have faith in the writers they can pull it off
Aaaaand someone is trying to start a hashtag for Akwafina as Amy
of course
that's what my brother assumed sonic 4's gonna be like
and i agree with him that it wouldn't be the best decision?
Kotaku even talked about it back in December
If they do this I’m gonna burn all reels of Sonic 4 and force the Paramount team to rewrite that shit
Would have made Movie Amy one of my least favorite portrayal if they do this move ngl 💀
Sorry I just never like having a char only existing for shipping
Nah, it’s understandable, I do too
based
If they do it, its probably not gonna be forced, But I do think the Wachowskis have some idea of hooking those two together somehow
what the fuck do you mean by that
Why
Tiger what the fuck is this entailing
What is the point
Sometimes I wish you stay quiet tiger
Giving Sonic a little advice on how to talk to girls
?????????
BRO HE TALKED JUST FINE!
He'll be sudden that Sonic didn't expect a female hedgheog, but he is not going to go all shy over it
oh right okay thats, not as severe as I thought thankfully sadgvhbsdjh
Nah I'm sorry but I know where is going with it, but nah
I already seen enough romance movies as it is 💀
the way you worded it sounded like literal organised forced romance and that would be extremely not okay in this I'll be real lmao
Just only do small little tease for like erm....... one or two scenes that's fine
Just not the entire part of the movie
anyways I don't think they should or would do it cos movie sonic has minus levels of rizz
Yea I’m fine with the teasing but absolutely DO NOT have these two become a thing
the most unromantic sonic in any branch of this series by any stretch
“Whoa, I haven’t seen something this chaotic since Skibidi Toilet part 80!”
I’m fucking kms
he would just talk about watchmojo countdowns
Man, one aromantic sonic is all i ask
Movie sonic has been the most of them all
BASED AF
Are they really just gonna introduce amy for the sake of wow girl for sonic to fall for
That would be ofc, expected cuz people have no taste
But it would suck
Worst case scenario honestly, but I can't see them do that
they should introduce her wife Trip too
yea me neither, but all I’m saying is that if they do it, I’m gonna be on the news
now we’re getting somewhere
But also i am being a broken record at this point
But sadly thats gonna be the drill
at least we had a trilogy of old man yaoi before the straights could ruin things
I mean tbh straight shipping can be fine
If sonic and amy just be friends in the movie then ill be happy but not with how people demand for it
(or like, medium man yaoi, how old is eggman in these again like middle-aged right)
I just don't think Amy should exist mainly for shipping since she is essentially the first female sonic char. It'll be such an asspull for her to just exist
Probably around mid 30’s
Nah no way
should be younger than in game series I guess, but not too much
Hes 50s
yeah I was thinking 50s, and stones in his 30s somewhere ig?
Was just about to say, if he was a child by the time Maria died, then yea he’d prob be 50’s or 60’s
it would be a 10 year gap i think
he likes his men aged like fine wine
Anyways
Sonic 4 is gonna be rough for a gay bitter man thats also a fan of amy rose- me
let’s just pray the heads at paramount have them just be friends
Ye
Sonic 4 could probably be some terminator like story
and they do love the pop culture references
I do kinda hope they tone down the pop culture references a bit
Like I don’t dislike it but I do think the films could do without them
Oh you know they will double down on it
you know
actually i dont know i forgot the conversation i was gonna start :|
metal sonic yay :D
neo metal sonic plz 🙏
Bitch don't you got a man already?😭
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Dkekskskkskskskss
What DOES THAT MEAN IEKSKSK
We could have a Neo Metal Sonic in 4, But I bet they could save that for a post credits scene, After Metal Sonic was defeated, Robotnik recovers him, and rebuilts into Neo Metal Sonic
Hopefully he won't be a one and done, But something we could see expanded on the other movies
by movie 4 u will have bf 🫵
idk what the point of that is when you can just have neo metal in the 4th movie
You could have all 3 stages of Metal Sonic in one movie
it means you’re lucky
Regular, Neo, and Overlord
Not sure if i do want that 
fair fair
by movie 4 u will have whoever/whatever your heart desires plus a million dollars 🫵🫵
if u think about it you should up it to a billion
don't push it buster
Yea its too much
oh okey
I would agreed but.......
We have multiple metals
I feel like it makes more sense for Neo Metal Sonic being in sonic 4 movie as the de facto leader
Something that did happen in the comics too
Right and even then they aren't going to like complete 1:1 to the comics obviously
They'll take some inspiration of course while managed to do their own thing
Which again is one of the main point of the movie series
Their "own" direction while staying true to the chars
These movies references things from other media, So I think the comics are on the table.
I mean obviously yeah
I say just
Wait until you introduce Neo
I probably would think it'd be too fast of a recovery if they made him the antagonist of the very next movie
Yeah there is that
There is something I wanna see happen, Heroes establishes that Neo Metal Sonic can morph into anybody, So we could see him do some T-1000 things, Such as morphing into Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow or Amy.
https://x.com/scurvypiratehog/status/1883075513947984248 thread as usual
if this is how they bring back Eggman in Sonic 4 Movie I am perfectly okay with it
Honestly they cooked
and it would be ironically be accurate to game Eggman with Frontiers
One of the prequel comics shows that Eggman was frustrated with his current machines (Orbot and Cubot) because they were inefficient
and wished that one of his creations makes him proud for a change
Yeah it seems like they are actually trying to make Eggman feel more "human". Helps that Eggman's char is completely different over the movie series
So the direction is going to be a lot more interesting over him while pushing more over Stone's development towards him
With Metal Sonic, Its more then his ultimate creation, I could see that as being a Son of sorts
In terms of future for sure
But in sonic 4 movie, I don't think as much
Since it's hard to say whether they'll utilize time travel or not if we get an alternative version of eggman
Who knows, Maybe they go the Eggman Nega route
Eggman Nega just sucks as an alternate variant
But Robotnik should just stay dead and have Jim's return be via new flashbacks or something like video/audio recordings
Metal being a creation of GUN works far better anyways
having fun tiger
shit, I gotta make one of these now
I have a really good idea for it too
Ya know listening to the Angry Birds movie soundtrack… I think Heitor Pereira could do a good job on a Sonic movie soundtrack
Too bad they got someone who doesn’t make very good original work :p
The more I think about it. You think the next movie is going to be a chaos emerald hunt considering we have no idea what happened to them as of now?
I dont know if they will do the time stones in the next one, they are too much like the chaos emeralds, So I think there's gonna be something where one of the pieces deals with time.
Also we don't know where the master emerald went
Wouldn’t be surprised if they just have it just cause
Doesn’t seem like they’re that bothered to keep track of details like that
yeah, details like those aren't exaaaaaaaaactly important, since that's not usually the point of the scenes
though if I had to be fair, on the other hand, the movies tend to have a habit of just sweeping things under the rug once all's said and done
like,
"Oh, I guess the government just decided to erase Robotnik despite him being hired"
and
"Oh, I guess the Chaos Emeralds are back in the Master Emerald"
etc etc
#SonicTheHedgehog3 ready to cross 450M & beat #DetectivePikachu as #2 highest grossing video game adaptation at Global #BoxOffice next week!
Spectacular 10.6M on 5th weekend overseas, just a -30.3% drop from last week…
4M away from pikachu
There’s no way he said 4 is a multiverse film and RPK had to correct him 😭
Nah he cooked with this one
Matching his corny freak would be the move
I kinda want them to have Ranma and Akane energy
Basically these two like eachother but they are also on eachother's ass
which adds a very good dynamic
Akane annoys Ranma on some form, Ranma annoys her back
or in reverse
That, combined with their pop-culture stuff, would make them very entertaining
"Eh those sailor girls aren't as cool as the speed force"
"How dare you?! Flash would not be able to defeat any of them!"
"Retract yourself!"
not to mention,
Akane is someone that enjoys being girly and elegant, cooking and baking (even if she's terrible at it), but just can't help but smash something if you poke her long enough (with Ranma, just one second)
definitely Amy vibes though less bubbly as she's usually seen as
Can that be built naturally then
And Ranma has this Sonic vibe of just being a guy doing his own way and be relatively chill but he does poke Akane's nerves from time to time deliberarily
If i have to deal with that
Can they just have a developing kind of relationship
Instead of what people are asking for
Where they is no connection or chemstry at all its just oh its a girl for sonic to go awooga for
Yeah. In the context of Ranma, Akane and him were arranged married by their parents but they both hated the idea so they are at odds with eachother for it at first
But as the series goes, both of them slowly see what the other has going for
mind you, those who want that are usually shippers, who already have the "chemistry" built in their little brains
while films are obligated to make it gradual
No they dont
Mhm the movies cannot just state things out of the sudden
All they need to do is to make sonic go immediately gaga for amy and then have girl issues and they will be satisfied lol
The only way id accept something like sonic and amy as sort of a romantic thing is if they are together through the whole movie and have really good chemistry from the get go
Ranma-Akane coded dynamic would do a lot for them
So this is the best way to do it
But please
None of this sonic needs to be a simp bs
Let them fight together and have interactions without no one saying omg sonic is into this girl
true, that's the easiest route to take, given the lighthearted angles these movies have
but I have faith in them to at least make things legitimate, but I'mma wait and see what they do
if anything, assuming Amy is from a shite future,
she should get into baking cookies, only to get the most horrible results according to Sonic
||A KOALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA||
If you are gonna have this happen, at least make it not hetnorm
And thats where i stop at this
If i see another fanart of sonic being a simp for movie amy ill just dropkick the nearest pole
I can see Sonic laughing at this and then that gets Amy annoyed
and then she hunts him down to hit for the cookies while Sonic continues to tease her about the cookies
actually can you dropkick me instead so I don’t have to see it anymore
This would actually be a really clever way to incorporate that Zillow reference
Amy’s just been on earth the entire time, but she’s been living independently unlike Sonic
Actually yea that would be be really nice
essentially doing what sonic should be doing
@ember talon
👀
Basically yeah if wanting any shipping related
That honestly sounds like a really fun dynamic
Her being the only one that can stand his pop culture shit
What if happened if Sonic 4 follow more Ranma and Yatsurei
Sonic 3 but better
Would be the best in the series, no contest
this is funny im sorry
He found me omg
They haven’t even started writing yet 😭 https://x.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1883612902567088383?s=46&t=NzxXkQvD_eB6G-8-XvjXcQ
Doesn’t pre production start next month
i wouldn’t be super surprised
I assume they already have some small ideas, but the actual pre production hasn't even started
so this shouldn't be taken as legitimate info anyway
I mean
It wouldn't be all that surprising anyway given it's adapting CD, which has time travel baked into its gameplay
"Sonic movie 4 will feature sonic" type of shit
I keep thinking you're some other dude now, bruh😭
Same
Thought this was interesting, If the movie deals with time travel. https://fixupx.com/ken10drawsstuff/status/1883625419477487673
Oo that’s interesting to think about
I would assume that saving LongClaw is going to have some really bad consequence in the timeline
Time travel is a very complicated topic, Because if you change something in the past, There's always the possibility that there will be some unforseen consequence as a result of the change in the timeline
Prequill comic basically confirmed she died
damn
Time travel as a narrative element is very tricky to nail, so if they wish to use it, they better make sure to have concrete rules and limits
so it doesn't backfire
There are different rules, depending on how they aproach it, They could go the easy route, and do the back to the future rules, Some of the other time travel rules usually result in a different branch of the timeline, which results in a multiversal scenerio.
The easier ones, and the ones CD works with for the most part, are back to the future ones
You travel to the past and change an element of it? It alters the future in small or big ways
Its gonna be more BTTF then anything due to speed being the result
Yeah. I remember Ohshima used back to the future as a base for the time travel in CD
At the very least, the time travel mechanic in CD works just like the DeLorean does
We also have to deal with the idea of the bad future, Something that is the result of a change in the past, Like for example, Should Sonic save Longclaw in the past, It could cause a Bad Future, Because certain people weren't involve to prevent, Say Robotnik from taking over.
Yeah. Back to the future 1 worked with that
Marty saved his father and he nearly self erased himself of existance
and BTTF 2's 'biff timeline'
Yeah, That's very Bad Future ish
Yeah that's a more literal bad timeline
With Biff ruling over Hill Valley and making it a hell for everyone
Maybe during the last race, Sonic was running so fast, He traveled forward in time without realizing
Powerpuff girls moment
Because literally, that post credit scene is Sonic and Amy's first meeting
It doesn't seem like he time traveled forward in time and more so just arrived to New York by accident but could be wrong and he could be in the future without realizing it
if that's the case then it'd be fun if the place signs all had egg pun names
Also I wonder if that's the same race from the end of the movie, Because it was night time by the time Sonic arrived in that area from New York
It was daytime when they raced at the end
and he somehow ended up some place while its night time
orrrrr timezones maybe? not sure how it works over in murica though
Like montana and new york are on opposite ends of the US
Green Hills is in Montana, and that would be Mountain Time
NY is EST
Eastern time is about 2 hours ahead of mountain time
seeing the username not surprised
Depending on the change in daylight savings, It could be dark at EST time, but still some daylight at MT
I get the feeling if longclaw does appear we may see a smal glimpse of what happened after being seperated from sonic
RT @SamsProStation: @GamesCage_ Here it is. Visual added by me for effect :)
They added the audio https://fixupx.com/FireShadow64/status/1883639760142672055
ratdel if he was voicing Sonic and Shadow
@GamesCage_
The Flames of Disaster
I love movie Knuckles bro 💀
please no
he should’ve moved on by now
Agreed
well uh, wrong words but
he learned that even though she’s gone, she will always be with him in his heart?
yeah
I think it can work if they pull a Meet the Robinsons
almost at the end, Willburg takes Lewis to the past, more specifically, to the day where his mother left him at the orphanage
Lewis approaches but ultimately doesn't stop that woman and returns to the future
because he accepted that he has, and will have, good things so there was no need
Not saying they have to do this. I just say that, if they do, this route would be the most natural for movie Sonic to have
it's bittersweet that he could save his first mom but he knows that she wouldn't have liked him to alter the natural course of things even if it is for her hence he doesn't (that or that his new family made him who he is hence there is no need to alter such event. After all, as strange as it sounds, sometimes you need darkness to see the light)
my god...
project luigi.
PLEASE someone tell me they got the reference in the new Tails’ Channel post
I think im gonna mute this channel goodbye
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(also historically i would not be asking a police officer for how to approach a relationship cheers)
Hated how majority of the tweets is just SonAmy related when it comes to Movie Amy
😔
well of course, that is all New Woman Character can be, no interesting stories the extent of their existence can only be pairing them with Existing Man Character
Sadness
Even with yuri I don't really care too much tbh 💀
booooooooo tomato tomato
LMAO
Like the yuri/yaoi stuff is still cool, but never the main focus to my eyes outside of romance shows/games imho
I am just hope for Sonic 4 Movie just at least more focusing over Amy being an actual char, that's all really
Bit a pain that the first impression you get over her is being Sonic's girlfriend
Sonic 4 Post Credit Scenes having Mephiles talking to Silver about Sonic being the Iblis Trigger
Quoting The Hollywood Handle (@HollywoodHandle)
‘SONIC 4’ will reportedly feature “time travel elements.”
In theaters on March 19, 2027.
(Via: @DanielRPK)
Do they know chat
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Like nah I'm sorry, but that shit ain't happening considering it's reptuation lmao
is wanting someone like silver really that crazy
Silver is still on the table for the movies
Silver himself is always fine enough
i mean...
Plus doesn't help over with how Iblis is treated to so that shit is going to be completely different
I be surprise if we get Silver, Before Rouge, Big, or the Chaotix.
in a very different context
tbf we gotten Shadow before Amy lmao
but its not like reputation is an issue
I need them to keep pushing Silver back it’d be soooo funny
Fair of course wint
I doubt
I am cool with Silver
But expecting him before Amy and Metal Sonic?
I do too
That's expecting too much
What I dont like are silver fans
With Silver's connection to time travel, they aren't going to do 06, He'll be there from a different context, but still time travel being somehow involved.
actually you know what fair enough, i dont like wearing this thing because of fans so
Yeah I am not fond over the SIlver fans at all 💀
If the movie were a terminator like story, Silver would be the John Connor type who sent Amy to save Sonic.
That’s not what I was going for
I was going for this
~~Couldn't help it due to that tweet 💀 ~~
Fair
*The Chaos Trigger
ha ha ha ha ha
What if.... Wade is the Iblis Trigger?
THE FLAMES OF DISASTER!
Did Shadow just push Sonic out of the way of the cannon's blast? I hear a thud sound, but it's one of those blind-and-you miss it things.
to add onto this thread, what i think would be a fun take on amy in this universe is the fact that sonic is such a jokester with bad puns that everyone groans, but you could have amy be the only one who laughs with him.
Been on my mind for hours
We upgraded from "almost all" to "all"
Oh yeah they’re 100% getting shadow back at some point
like, at this point its a case of when rather than if surely
the box office for 2 was enough to justify getting the knux show off the ground, can’t imagine they’d waste time here either
He's litteraly teased to be alive at the end of movie 3
He's 100% in movie 4
He might even get his own series
hooooonestly I could see him skipping movie 4 in favour of headlining a spinoff tbh
(I’d prefer a movie for him but if they go for another P+ series I’d take that too)
Two movies
Two sets of profits
A movie is too much of a risk
With Shadow????
yeah like, is the new guy from the second highest-grossing gaming movie of all time that much of a “risk” lmao
If it's cheap, it shouldn't. I'm sure they could do a spin off like movie 1 but with shadow
(combine that with the sales from shadow gens and it’s clear, the people crave the hedgehog)
think the main thing it hinges on is if Keanu’s got time free for it tbh
if they keep good budget (they did this well with all the movies) i can see shadow movie to do well
ofc its not gonna make billions but i feel like it can make the same amount as the first one
I rather have a Shadow series cause I need to see some downtime and things to settle for once
i feel like they dont announce shadow movie because the looking for good director rn
i know this is like a late response, but sonic 3 really one of the best cg movies out there huh
Mhm. What a great production schedule and such do to a movie
they didn't rush, they had everyone working properly and healthy
it allowed the CGI to go as cool as it could be
without giving it drawbacks
Plus it also helps that it relies on clear sets wherever is possible
and only leans on CG to enhance them of a way it cannot do with physical
rather than fully going on it making the tool harder for everyone
Also helps that they aren't working on multiple projects at once
They probably are but they are 1 or 2
and not like 6 or so
That gives more time to breathe
at least based in that the Knuckles series and movie 3 were worked in similar times
(but even then Knuckles went for practical as far as it could, with only ep6 being the CG heavy episode)
MCU by comparison has 2-3 movies in a year WITH 2 or 3 series (not counting the marvel television ones such as X-Men 97 or the new Spider-man one cause they are another group so their work process is different)
Yeah I can see that
in this era of films, the sonic movies resonate with plenty of people because they're focused on nailing their themes and are focused in the movie at hand
Like yes they do set-up stuff for future movies and yara yara
but you never feel like a movie or so is done for sequel sake or for a grander direction
they are just another chapter in the life of these characters
With new obstacles and challenges but still focused with each installment
In a sense, the sonic movies are akin to 80's movies like back to the future or indiana jones
just movies focused on the character and the new problem at hand, movies that may set up for later but ultimately the focus is on the current issue
At least in my opinion
I can see the 80s and 90s formula in the movie, Especially with the references.
Yeah, yeah. Which works as a breath of fresh air compared to other current franchises who feel like in a hurry of creating the next MCU
Those era of movies were not overly complex, they were easy to follow
Yeah, they were because they didn't have a mayor plan at large
just 'hey let's see how we can make these characters deal with new situations'
The movies arent setting up the next one, They have a plot they stick through to the end, And when we get to a post credit, Its to setup who shows up in the next one, But don't reveal what the plot of the next one could be, Just the, Here's whose gonna be in the next movie, and that's pretty much it
We can only speculate what the next one could be, Just because of the characters that will be in it
Exactly
heck it is less indulgent than back to the future
the 'post credits' of back to the future already gave you an idea of what the next installment will do
back to the future 1 - they'll go to 2015 and marty's kids are in trouble
back to the future 2 - doc brown ended in 1885 and you must save him
It took a couple of years for us to get to BTTF part 2
I mean more how the first movie of back to the future spells more of the plot of the sequel than sonic movie 1 with it's post credits.
It makes me wonder if there will be a time jump in the next one, The way it ended, Seemed like it was the conclusion of the race at the end of the movie. But that's for us to find out in the next one, Because Movie 4 will have a version of this very scene.
It could be at the begining or in the middle, who knows
Who knows? Only in two years we will know
We have to play the waiting game
Mhm. That's all we can do for now
HIS FACE LOL
Quoting GREENHILL (@fuzeryy1205)
Here is the "Live-Action Lunacy: Acting Opposite Puppets" featurette for #SonicMovie3
It shows some BTS with the puppets
(1/3)
this is like every power rangers episode when they meet an evil sixth ranger
He is not wrong 💀
I tried
Quoting Huddled Up (@Huddled_Up)
this looks like the end of a brawl cutscene where you get to pick a character
If anything, Silver didn't deserve to be shown as such a bad first impression.
06....while rightfully deserving of all the venom and disgust it has garnered since its release, really should've been pushed back to a later date.
Not wrong but honestly if they wanted to introduce Silver it should be barely anything to do with 06
Especially with Iblis
oh yeah.
I feel like for Silver when it comes to 06 related is only just time travel and that's it while being his complete own char
Which basically.... is him recently
06....had a lot going against it. The fact it even made it onto shelves is a thermodynamic miracle.
-The cancellation of the Dreamcast the same year Adventure 2 launched
-Learning and adapting to several major console platforms outside of their own, in Sonic Team's case.
-Two major leads cutting ties to SEGA with half the team having to work on Secret Rings.
Sonic's 15th Anniversary
Like I said. Thermodynamic Miracle it made it out at all
It's why to me when it comes to adaptations I feel like could work out well for general audience are: Heroes (not fully confirmed yet), SA1, Unleashed, and Colors
I would say Frontiers but that one is a complete different case lmao
Silver is arguably the only saving grace of the game. With an actual reason behind his appearance here. Well saving grace or spiteful curse.
Though mercifully enough, 06 is, by it's nature, a self-contained story. A story that, for all intents and purposes, never really happened
You can't say that when he's genuinely one of the worst aspects
06 is just unfortunately an infamous sonic game and most of the time the general audience bring it up is "Elise kissing Sonic" 💀
Also, let's not kid ourselves. 06 was supposed to be Adventure 3.
He is not a saving grace when he is a rooted magnet for some of the worst bugs and moments the game has to offer
Oh....now I remember.
Also yeah I wouldn't say that either. Silver left a VERY bad first impression
His reputation gotten way better later on but his debut is just awful
the sonic heroes on the table:
It's why to me he isn't like Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Metal Sonic, or Shadow where they all managed to leave a good first impression
Shadow especially considering his debut
Shadow was one of intrigue and mystery back then, which spiked his popularity....but a serious misunderstanding of his character arc and his backstory paved the way for a lot cringe from newcomers.
Especially when it came to OC's.....we don't talk about that.
But I digress....
Looks at it: Oh yeah, I forgot you existed.
pretty much leaving a huge impact after your first impression holds a lot
It's been said you never get a second first impression.
Fumble at the finish line? Good luck keeping up.
Nail it from start to finish? Enjoy the fame
essentially yeah
Only time that managed to do this well back to back is Metal Sonic
Metal Sonic having a very good first impression with CD, then you get with OVA and then you get Heroes despite having such low amount of appearances in main series
I mean... who would argue otherwise ?
And technically so was unleashed
not even technically, it was actually adventure 3 up until the werehog came in
Everyone when I was younger kept holding onto hope it would come. But by this point, I hope many realize that it is just never gonna happen. Just never gonna exist. Especially with expectations being shot beyond the atmosphere at this point.
06 is like the closest thing you can say is SA3
Heroes does exist but the team mechanic made it stand out well enough
Same with unleashed. Though, I can definitely understand an argument for why. At least for the PS3 and Xbox. I had the Wii version of Unleashed.
Unleashed is... a hard maybe
Hard maybe, yeah
It's a more linear story
rather than one told from different points of views
Fair enough.
Main thing that feels like an SA3 is not only the multiple playable chars but also the gameplay
06 is essentially what could have been SA3
Too bad 06 feels too loose compared to SA1 and SA2 at least story wise
💀
Story wise I feel like it tries way too different for the wrong reason
Like at it's core, it has a similar base to that of sa1 but it fumbles them because it doesn't get that all stories of sa1 have 1 single core around them: Chaos (character)
all of them have chaos as a focal point which allows them to mesh together thematically and chronologically
while 06 is just 3 stories that are eating eachother
Each one of those iterations brought up something the other never considered or wanted to implement.
CD played up the role of the Silent Copy
OVA hinted to him being more than just a robotic mockery
Heroes became a composite of these two....utilizing the look of a silent robot, but slowly proving it is more than we believed as it can use the BioData of its targets to evolve and empower itself
Let alone be able to shapeshift into the Doctor
pretty much. Those 3 alone just excel what made metal popular, which silver severely lacked
Closest you can say over him is the comics and at the same time? Not much
In fact, Shadow Generations Reminds us he was delusional enough to believe he was a god.
Though, with all that power and information, it's kinda hard to disagree.
And even if it happens, this fanbase (at least a significant part of it) holds way too much expectations over a potential sa3
Precisely my point
GOTY material type of game while the ogs weren't even close to be that
Yeah I feel like when it comes to SA3 is just going to remain a pipe dream unless they manage to reach that point
oh yea that reminds me i gotta write down all the lines Metal Overlord had in Heroes and redub it to sound like his new voice for a fun lil experiment or maybe mod project if I knew anyone capable of that
I feel in general, Silver lacked a lot of the aura that made Shadow stand out in 06
compared to Shadow in sa2, he is played way too directly and with barely any flare
You may say 'oh it makes sense, he's a time traveler of an apocalyptic future, he would go directly' but Trunks had more aura in his introduction
I don't think he needs to be like having "aura"
Silver can still be an interesting char enough without that. Just that the problem is 06 did a poor job handling him
We don't know who even Trunks is and the bozo stylzed on King Cold and Frieza
It took a while for him to reveal his intents but in the meantime
he did things that are very cool and in a way that is unique to him
it's more so that he lacked a lot of flare in 06
like think Shadow in sa2
and how theathical he is in spite of being a tragic character
Yeah that I get
Silver is more played out by comparison, which is fine in a vacuum
but when you have both sonic and shadow be more stylish
then you are the one lacking
(and even literally. Shadow was so extra by kicking Silver's back using Chaos control)
If anything, he really didn't need to do that.
Definetely, and that's why it is very cool
Shadow was so extra for something as mundane as that
He could do it by skill alone
but Shadow decided to add insult to injury
Silver needed more of that 'it's not practical but fuck it' type of moments
like I talked with Deleter about it
imagine this
Sonic and Elise arrive at the docks. Suddenly, the waters raise dramatically and they slice in half a la Moises; and from that division, Silver comes. The water raising and being sliced were done by Silver's psychokinesis
That's Shadow for you lmao
Doesn't need to do it, but continues to steal the show
gameplay wise, yes
character wise, not really
Sonic X Intro - Movie Style
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That honestly kinda slapped
It's very cool, and fitting for movie sonic
Wait was this convo posted? (it's so popular so probably yes)
I’m convinced you could put literally any song in the world over this and it’d fit perfectly
No way
Don’t ask him how many times he’s seen Sonic 2 in theaters
Didn’t he see it like 200
Ah so you are aware
$7.50 per ticket....... 375 dollars on one movie.........
i mean, he can do whatever he wants as far as i'm aware, can't he ?
Yeah
Man if sonic 4 released a week earlier it wouldve been the best birthday gift ever
Sonic X OP | Sonic Drive - Movie Style
Quoting EPIC CLOSING (@ClosingEpic)
Sonic X Intro - Movie Style
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I'm more mad at the fact that the ticket costs $7.50, like are you kidding me?
Shit I'd see it that many times if tickets for the theater near me was that price
Also some of you shouldn't be talking with how you spend your money, I'm gonna be fr
That theater must be his house
I wanted you all to take a moment to appreciate how faithful and accurate this whole edit is to the actual opening
Insane stuff good work
Quoting EPIC CLOSING (@ClosingEpic)
Sonic X Intro - Movie Style
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Wow this is awesome
The creative fans go crazy
Honest Trailers does Sonic Movie 3 https://youtu.be/lPDu8T3YIuU?si=NyYPQl0MxCBeO57k
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Title Design: Robert Holtby
Written by: S...
Watching Always Sunny, I’m only reminded of how Charlie Day would’ve been Sonic had fate been different
An italian sounding Sonic would have been quite something
luigi sonic
all I’m saying is
I get why he’d wanna see it 200 times
For a second there, you had me thinking you paid to see the movie 50 times.
Meaning you went to same theater 50. Freaking. Times
Yeah the tweeter user did
p u s h t h e b u t t o n
Ngl this would be a cute concept to see if we do get a Shadow and Knuckles spinoff
robotnik dancing to power rangers s.p.d. song
Cytuje Blaze Binges (@BlazeBinges)
Robotnik Dance Sequence
Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Tom isn't that severe
I can see Movie Sonic and Chris playing baseball actually
X Sonic def wouldnt be chilling at Tom's place as often as Movie Sonic is thas fo sure
Yeah I can agree on that
he would run off more often
Tom probably may say that Sonic is a bit reckless at times but that's about it
Heck he would probably invite Sonic to fish or something
Ngl this kinda implies that Sonic would be mad reckless and cause more chaos around town when in actuality he'd just sleep on the roof for most of the day
Mhm
X Sonic is not that chaotic, he just dips and goes somewhere to chill
Tom has no reason to be so angry (and even then he doesn't reinforce his role as police like that lmao)
omg they love each other 😍
ngl, i think it would be cooler if the next fight didn't involve the master emerald
would make for some nice variety
even if the third act of sonic 3 was the greatest thing ive ever seen in any piece of sonic media outside of giganto maybe
hey
sonic movie nerds
does anyone the name of the song that plays when suepr shadow is throwing sonic into the mountains in the soundtrack? i cant find it for some reason
i really like the live and learn rendition there
Can't find it
It should be in this song
https://youtu.be/pTyPkwgQp6M?si=G6t9VPh-7tgjRO37
“I Can't Let You Live” from Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (Music from the Motion Picture) | Music by Tom Holkenborg
► Listen to the soundtrack here: https://soundtracks.lnk.to/sonic3AY
► Ask your voice device to play: "Sonic the Hedgehog 3 Soundtrack”
ABOUT SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 3
Sonic, Knuckles and Tails reunite to battle Shadow, a mysterious new e...
Around the 2:37 min mark
i think this is the same part but this OST version has the guitars that play in the movie turned way down for some reason?
iirc the 06 eggman theme part is just straight up missing?
Mf really was like "ewww sonic music"
THANK YOU
ily
also yea i noticed
that live and learn guitar riff was so good i was hoping i could isolate it from all that sfx but its even more blurred 😭
i think if you get the actual file of the digital release of the movie you could isolate the OST from the rest of the audio channels to get that version?
Yea that could work
maybe someone already did that idk
https://youtu.be/8_wAWmMhuWk ok at least theres an upload of the eggman theme
Audio is cleaner
Original composition by Hideaki Kobayashi
Movie arrangement by Junkie XL
je vais aller dormir maintenant j'espère que vous passerez tous une merveilleuse journée ou nuit
LMFAOOOOO
mistakes were made
listen
Tortured Poets Department was really successful in spite of its bad reception
you just gotta accept the fact that boring ass music is gonna be more popular than Crush 40
oh shit, it got a 76 on metacritic?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Welcome to The Madhouse got bad reception
and yet I still here Tones and I on the radio
which makes me not even want to be an Australian
but hey, at least we got Tame Impala and Mick Gordon :)
just straight up.....chills... 🥶
How is it doing on Spotify?
11.5m, uh-oh
Ok, at least it's not beaten Live & Learn's spotify numbers yet, but kinda scary it got this much at this short amount of time
im still fucked up about the shadow jailbreak to title drop theme not being there

tails
no
god these look so cursed
I didn't know working on these movies actively made Marsden shrink in size
Marsden couldn't be on set so they got Fadel instead
and recorded his face and what not (?
they’re shortstacking James Marsden chat………..
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what’s wrong now
i forgot :p
ok
i look forward to whenever that rig comes out.
gahh i wanna make art of it
I want SEGA to push the agenda of Metal Sonic acquring a arm cannon in main series
🙏
He needs T-800 moments as well
just Metal being a sheer menace
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Paramount, for the love of god, do the right thing
I animated Amy Rose with Kimiko Glenn voicelines (Izzy from My Little Pony)!
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Not bad at all
Why did his old ass go flying like that
This shit would be epic like Metal Sonic holding a fucking aircraft carrier like something straight out of from Super Sentai or DC or Marvel
Wait, I think why the Commander just sit here and be like: Look like I'm going to die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWTbLZCR84k&ab_channel=FlashbackFM
I would think of Sonic vs Metal Sonic like this and then has GUN came in action
Man of Steel (2013)
Faora-Ul vs Kal-El
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Just think of this fight happened in Tom's hometown
I can see this idea working IF they show that Longclaw was a 'barrier' between both
One of the points of the first movie is how Longclaw told Sonic that he had to remain hidden or not be seen
due to the risks of someone figuring out his powers
if they are childhood friends, they should have longclaw taking Sonic home like an overprotective mother
saying that it is too risky to be with Amy because his powers can put her in danger
Which would contrast very well with current Sonic who is more than enough confident and capable to use his powers to protect her
I like it
I dunno why, but with this in mind, I can’t help but imagine a more comedic take on their reunion
Sonic wondering who Amy was and Amy getting upset he doesn’t remember his own childhood friend (no thanks to his overprotective owl mom)
Kinda like how ChiChi got angry Goku just forgot about her
I’ve come to make an announcement, all five belows should be burned due to the fact that I tried looking for a shadow poster and they didn’t have it in stock, and when I found its color it was just a Minecraft image, therefore all five belows must be burned
Has enough time passed to have an indeoth discussion about film shadow
I find him fascinating
Really?
He is different than his game counter part in a way that impresses me. They could have easily taken a pretentious/jaded approach when engaging with the character but they chose a homestly pretty ernest and genuine take on the character
I think i like the games more overall. It leans more into the weird and allegories than the films do. But film shadow is pretty engaging. Film shadow...made me like idw less? Which seems unrelated but i promise you, its not
No i agree
What do you mean pretentious/jaded?
Idw shadow is just very unlikable
Not just shadow, film shadow made me key in on one my larger issues with idw in general. By being...a good character
Yea exactly
Is like Shadow in IDW and such has to always be saying NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO or IM NOT INTERESTED
I just hate seeing shadow in idw cuz hes not fun
Hes just an angry powerful guy that doesnt accept anything or like anything
And thats all there is to him
Im a fan of shadow, ive also done art professionally. I see a lot of takes or redesigns that take the oomph out because they do not wish to engage with his edgyness in earnest.
Idw actually suffers from this in general with multiple characters. I think sometimes in a bit too deep can blind you from the basic functions of a character and it could have been litteral hot topic emo shadow rather than a hurt kid
Movie Shadow honestly shows so much over why I have hard time liking shadow during post 06. IDW Shadow...... is just even worse
That i dont agree, or rather agree fully i think you missed the actual issue
I get why shadow is the way he is and the way sega wants him to be
But thay doesnt make him a good character
Like it feels like theu are eo insecure in making him a character
Idw is simple because the the people writing the book in the beginning got too meta and wrote themselves in a corner.
The movie works because it just...explains him
How much people dont matter to him
did shadow the hedgehog in the idw series of sonic the hedgehog comics really say that
He doesnt say that often at all though is the thing.
The superior hands thing of the 900th adventure is close to that
Only time he wasn't like that was just urban arc. Anything else before that IDW Shadow has that behavior
This is what i mean by "meta" the idw comics suffer from getting in too deep in the series
The movies do not do that
He isnt like that often
Huh? What does that have of meta?
That's just a dumb thing to say but meta it doesn't have anything
He doesnt claim superiority hes just...angry and unexplained
thats how I’d describe it
I’ve been slowly catching up to idw, i got done with surge’s rampage with the wisps and I haven’t read any further
900th adventure was....... quite a comic
from my memory shadow appeared a grand total oooooof two times or maybe three idk 😭
and he was angry and brooding and he was gone
Ill connect back to my point. Film shadow is just a character being introduced to you and explained to you.
Shadow in idw, is a character never actually introduced they operate under the presumption you know and write him like that. They also write him like they know only to be met with rules but thats kinda a different discussion
isn’t there a shadow one shot coming
Shadow as a character needs to be explained to a degree anf he never is
But heres the thing , a lot of idw is like that!
And i dont know if thats good
There is yeah
Shadow one shot will be interesting to see post movie shadow
He's introduced in IDW with a simple element: a day in the life narrative element
this feels like it'd work better if shadow looked more smug and honestly I'm wondering if he was only for editorial to put the kibosh on it
Pfft you wish
Ideally he would be smug saying this shit
But he cant be too smug no more ig
I say that's what happens when you make a comic that takes place directly after a specific game late in the series' run
It doesnt really reflect a day in his life and his stories never really give you an understanding of what hes doing or why
Prime does, the movies do, the games do
Idw never bothers
btw is this just about idw shadow or like, the game version of shadow in general
IDW Shadow
It does
issue 6 is all about that
Shadow has been hunting down eggman, he believes he is dangerous and wants to take him down before something else happens
also yeah, gotta say that's def something IDW struggled with early on - it's a terrible first introduction to sonic's world cos it explains jack shit lol
For me it isnt even about idw shadow specifically i think film shadow made me rethink things and made see issues with idw in general
if you're already a fan its a walk in the park but the immediate first arc is neo metal and angel island and practically none of it is ever explained
Hold on you got something there
Follow me here
Shadow is described to be someone who hounds on something untill its done
So eggman is eggman again, why isnt he killing eggman
Hes dangerous no?
def could've eased into it all better (the first 4 weekly issues helped but at the same time I think they're the only IDW issues to ever be released on schedule so 💀 )
Game shadow is like what forces and shadow gens, not really tbh
The worst he gets is tsr i suppose
I don’t think I like film shadow more than the one we already have in the games, I think both are very good at what they do
But if there’s one thing, I think the shadow we have currently could like, loosen up a bit 😭
the entire point of issue 6 is him trying to kill Eggman (and shadow 05 he kills him in a few alternative endings)
And even then thats more so the western version
The jp version of tsr shadow is far more
Introducing a character who's known to be about it. And set his goal up to kill the villian is setting him up for nothing
which is weird because shadow was kind of a smug bitch at times in sa2 and heroes
No nonsense
idk where that went
Those are fun what if's but his character historically isnt really hunting to kill eggman
I also hate the new thing where sonic says shit like “u working for eggman this time???”
Like fuck off lmao
Its terrible and makes sonic look like an ass
Sonic has more trust in shadow than that
I cannot fucking stand TSR writing at all. Doesn't help that it's after fucking Forces

That's been for a while since X
it's nothing new
It's true
Almost
Beyond trust he should know better. Thats what i meant by meta writing
Idw characters are frequently not written for themselves or the audience but to commicate the writers thoughts on the series itself
And...it sucks
It worked once, with surge and only kinda
super sonic v super shadow compared to the movies is so fucking funny
The film characters flaws in all are characters
And i appreciate them for that
I don't think anything in early IDW was meta until Starline specifically, he's the only one who is hard-coded into being meta (and Surge and Kit but that's by reflect I suppose)
Other characters are just using the continuity to form new conflicts and ideas
I am only hoping we get actual progress over the current game cast. Only time that is very noticeable are Chaotix, SIlver, and Amy
Not saying everything is of quality or well-done but nothing feels that pushing. It isn't like Gumball or even X
where a lot of it's plot beats and such are actually meta stuff on the Internet, memes, tendencies, etc in the case of the former, and the other pointing it's nature as a cartoon, the characters having specific traits, etc
Ian admitted that shadows first issue was just explaining why they dont go after eggman. A thing that didnt need explaining. That to me is where the meta starts
Instead of writing a narrative that speaks to the characters or is about anything, its just maintenence as to why the audience shouldn't question why these cartoon characters dont murder a guy
This continues as well beyond just starline.
I heard Starline, what’s going on
Im not even saying you cant write that kind of stuff interesting, you can. But you need the chops.
Hes cool
That isn't meta necessarily. You can have an in-world reason of why they don't go for him and that's it
Han Solo has a very dumb reason for getting his name in Solo: A star wars movie but that doesn't make it meta by any means
valid and true
Also i dont think he should be dead
Have starline as a cyborg plz
Starline was nice
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Strange
Why didn't they include it?
too goated
My claims of it being meta is more so in how it was used and why it was written not the concept of...explaining a concept. If you don't want to call it meta that's fine, but whatever you want to label it that sort of writing I think plagues the comics. I dont think it feels genuine it comes from expressing your understanding of the material in a way that is uninteresting to engage with at times and shadow in movie 3 is the opposite. Its a very different take on shadow and acts as if you never met him before all references are woven into his character so well you have to just be familiar to understand them. But they aren't needed. He's a character that stand son his own in a film that stands on its own. And I don't think chunks of idw does. And unfortunately those chunks are kinda large
But im way WAY off topic
i wanted to talk about how interestin I think film shadow is
He might litterally be the polar opposite to many aspects of what game shadow is and I find that facinating
It's honestly one of the main reason why I love the movie chars. They have have their own different take while staying true to their main portrayal
None of the other characters are like that even sonic. Shadow in the films is strait up a different character entirely
I mean, the first 4 issues introduce you to Tails, Knuckles, Amy, and the new comic character, showcases their dynamics, explains that Sonic and Eggman are enemies, utilizes various game elements such as wisps/badniks to set the tone more
I like those issues, they are good and then they just stop doing it
I would say 5 as well does this
litterally issue 6 they just stop even trying to like introduce concepts or people they just...go
I mean by that logic wouldn’t 7 and 8 also count as introducing concepts/people
Neo, Silver and Whisper have pretty natural character introductions I feel
Nah because 7 and 8 just kinda presents them. Whisper does and silver kinda but even i would make the argument that silver needed way more than kinda
but i'm not even gonna blame th ebook for that, thats forces fault
The book at a that time was a continuation of forces, he was just there then he's just there now
To me, meta is one step before of fourth wall breaking. In the context of issue 6, Sonic and Shadow simply have a disagreement on killing Mr. Tinker. Shadow, being the pragmatic he is (or aggresive), wants to terminate Mr. Tinker because Eggman is a potential threat to the world and he doesn't want to give any opportunity of Eggman returning to his usual anthics. Sonic, by his side, has seen that Mr. Tinker no longer poses a threat to anyone around him so he wishes to stop Shadow.
I won't tell you to like how they handled Shadow in there and what not, but nothing there is meta specifically
Ah ok i see our problem
It's just in the context of what they've built with issue #5
you are looking at meta as a concept being integrated into writing
I'm looking at it as also why a thing exists and why is it being written
The way you look at it isn't wrong, btw tbh its pretty reasonable
I just think there are cases where you have to look at why a story exists to make that decernment
Otherwise, I would consider 'meta' that Naruto tries to stop Gaara because Gaara is him if he didn't have Iruka, Kakashi, Sasuke, etc
I think its that way different but this isn't a naruto discord so imma just say
Sasuke didnt nothing wrong
lol
I mean, I can see why he did the things he did
the Uchiha massacre is a whole can of worms
basically a Pandora Box
Screw itachi all my homies hate itachi
If they do i will praise Ian Flynn or Evan Stanley (depending on who writes his return) for the rest of my life


