#Sonic Movie

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twin shoal
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They destroyed a landmark in Athens and UK

tacit apex
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But there is also that giant clock big ben

analog trout
indigo vapor
boreal hornet
spice ember
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thinking about how if revenge guac was in one of the trailers the fandom would’ve had a meltdown about how they ruined shadow before it came out

sturdy token
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to make him a look like a rabbid

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if that visual was revealed without context, the fandom would had lost their minds

analog trout
indigo vapor
peak dew
# analog trout no

satam fans when the divorce papers are filed (it ended on a cliffhanger just like the show)

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also watched Flow tonight and holy shit

holy shit what a movie

boreal hornet
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You expect them to get married?

peak dew
indigo vapor
peak dew
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like Kafka's Metamorphosis but instead of waking up as a giant bug they wake up thinking "I would like to make out and have many children with Sally Acorn"

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arguably a worse fate

high anvil
sturdy token
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My mom is watching sonic 3

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I can hear her laughing her ass off at the jokes lmao

ember talon
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Bruh

night anvil
# analog trout no

satam fans should give up on their show and watch deep space discounts instead

peak dew
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forcing satam fans to watch frankly any Gundam show

fallen harness
wanton forum
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Paramount in shambles trying to secure enough real skeletons for the sally acorn merch line

tacit apex
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The audio is from an episode of Teen Titans

ember talon
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BRO I WILL LOSE IT IF SO

kind cedar
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Oh yeah he played Tombstone in spectacular spider-man

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only for one episode but yeah if he gave the right tone I could see it.

fallen harness
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Sooooo

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I got exclusive Sonic Movie merch from a crane game

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Took me… all my arcade credits lol

ivory loom
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sony/microsoft logic🤯

peak dew
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rewatching the supers fight and only just clocked on that the backlash from this blastoff literally splits along a fault line through sheer power

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literally just tearing the earth apart in a scuffle over james marsden man what a film

fallen harness
peak dew
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already confirmed worst Amy through the sheer power of being a landlord pensivecowpoke

tacit apex
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See Man of Steel on why super powered beings shouldn't fight in the middle of a city

peak dew
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truly shocking that the PG movie did not include the protagonist committing accidental genocide

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oh oh oh shit just clocked on too

tacit apex
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You know, when the TV spots showed the GUN building being destroyed, I thought they were actually gonna shoot at the Earth, But it was just a hypothetical situation

peak dew
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kinda a corn cob moment but didn't realise til now the complete difference in texture for shadow's gloves

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instead of wool or fabric or whatever soft material like sonics he's got more like, sewn leather

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god I love the details they put into the movie designs, incredibly cool stuff

mossy imp
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Y'all ran out of things to talk about😭😭😭

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Anyways yeah that's a really cool detail

tacit apex
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We will talk about every minor detail

peak dew
peak dew
mossy imp
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I'd love it if they had an in-depth montage of all the details they added, I couldn't really tell since I had a slots overlay blocking 40% of the screen

tacit apex
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There will be videos that will more then likely do a very deep dive into the movie since its out now digitally, So stuff people miss, they will be able to just find it

peak dew
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tried watching one for the new wallace & gromit and it was unbearable cos it was absolutely just plain obvious shit lmao

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"in this scene wallace says cracking toast gromit, this is a reference to the other times he has said cracking toast gromit" yeah cheers mate not like its a catchphrase or anything

peak dew
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"ummm acktually its Cracking Toast's Monster, not Cracking Toast" nerdgedLetta

sick coyote
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crazy to think that the movie having one ok rock can be considered game accurate

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now that I think about it, that song's in the same album as vandalize I'm pretty sure

delicate galleon
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It is

sturdy token
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It is

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Oh

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also my mom liked Amy

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she thinks she's adorable

indigo vapor
twin shoal
# analog trout no

I’m absolutely getting tired of rally4sally. Can’t they JUST moving on

high anvil
ember talon
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Honestly I'll be happy if they went with nature vs. machine for sonic 4 movie

vast inlet
red field
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it's too petty i cant

vast inlet
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Nah, this is dope as hell

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I love when losing your friend/parental figure can lead the main hero to the wrong path to the point of severe destruction‼️

ember talon
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I just love how sonic 3 movie finally demostrate how terrifying super forms can be

indigo vapor
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like they can be a symbol of hope or they can destroy entire civilizations at a time

peak dew
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the notion of having James marsden as a father figure really do be a terrifying fictional creation

fallen harness
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Jeff Fowler shopping at my work?!

tacit apex
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The movies never explored Robotnik's obsession with turning animals into robots, That is something they could do in Sonic Movie 4.

boreal hornet
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He has never done that in the films

boreal hornet
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All his drones are remotely operated without utilizing animals. They're definitely avoiding it because it can lead to very weird moral ground especially with how the drone destruction is portrayed

indigo vapor
boreal hornet
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Game Eggman's usage of animals in badniks works fine because as soon as you break one, they just poof away and the animal goes free.

Film Robotnik's drones explode on destruction and are always elevated in the air

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And they really want you to like Robotnik in the films so if they portray him as an animal abuser they basically puts them in the drones

Yea that's not gonna really look good. Would be funny to see what PETA says tho

indigo vapor
boreal hornet
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I don't think I know the one, I don't look at or remember dumb tweets

indigo vapor
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Makes sense, and I know what it is but I don’t think I can say it because it’s extremely fucked up

high anvil
analog trout
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Sorry for bringing these folks up a couple times already

But shiiiiit, I like Sally as much as the next guy, but goddamn

amber mortar
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Tvose two comics have ABSOLUTELY nothing in common

indigo vapor
ember talon
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Sally fans 💀

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I swear why they keep doing this to themselves?

indigo vapor
next wedge
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Oof

ember talon
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💀

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Yeah stay coping sally fans lmao

mossy imp
peak dew
analog trout
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your typical 90s "ew girl!!" vibe

analog trout
dusky garnet
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Everyone who finds it the “omg girl” joke funny up your standards

twin shoal
ember talon
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Let them cope

fallen harness
indigo vapor
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YEAAAAA

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and now it’s time to see what good ol toonshi thinks of sonic peak

sturdy token
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(albeit it came with it's fair share of problems)

ember talon
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Considering Goku kept looking at panties and doesn't understand, not surprise

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back then obv lmao

sturdy token
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and his little running act to identify them

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The worst "omg girl" is the lorax one

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💀

peak dew
indigo vapor
peak dew
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"I WATCHED ALL THE SONIC MOVIES" you mean all three mate

ivory loom
indigo vapor
peak dew
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so did I and I'm not asking for a medal am I mate

sturdy token
ivory loom
indigo vapor
ember talon
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If I hear no "hue hue hue" in sonic 4 movie it's pure robbery

indigo vapor
analog trout
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that's one way to put it :0

analog trout
ember talon
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Sad that the first thing people will think of Amy is Sonic's girlfriend, but that's just how it is

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But I have faith in the writers they can pull it off

fallen harness
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Aaaaand someone is trying to start a hashtag for Akwafina as Amy

ember talon
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of course

ivory loom
ember talon
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💀

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Amy forever not having a good first impression

ivory loom
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and i agree with him that it wouldn't be the best decision?

ember talon
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oh

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Well that yeah obv

tacit apex
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Kotaku even talked about it back in December

indigo vapor
# analog trout

If they do this I’m gonna burn all reels of Sonic 4 and force the Paramount team to rewrite that shit

ember talon
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Would have made Movie Amy one of my least favorite portrayal if they do this move ngl 💀

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Sorry I just never like having a char only existing for shipping

indigo vapor
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Nah, it’s understandable, I do too

ember talon
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based

tacit apex
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If they do it, its probably not gonna be forced, But I do think the Wachowskis have some idea of hooking those two together somehow

peak dew
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what the fuck do you mean by that

dusky garnet
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Why

indigo vapor
dusky garnet
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What is the point

ember talon
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Sometimes I wish you stay quiet tiger

tacit apex
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Giving Sonic a little advice on how to talk to girls

ember talon
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?????????

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BRO HE TALKED JUST FINE!

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He'll be sudden that Sonic didn't expect a female hedgheog, but he is not going to go all shy over it

peak dew
ember talon
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Nah I'm sorry but I know where is going with it, but nah

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I already seen enough romance movies as it is 💀

peak dew
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the way you worded it sounded like literal organised forced romance and that would be extremely not okay in this I'll be real lmao

ember talon
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Just only do small little tease for like erm....... one or two scenes that's fine

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Just not the entire part of the movie

peak dew
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anyways I don't think they should or would do it cos movie sonic has minus levels of rizz

indigo vapor
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Yea I’m fine with the teasing but absolutely DO NOT have these two become a thing

peak dew
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the most unromantic sonic in any branch of this series by any stretch

indigo vapor
peak dew
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he would just talk about watchmojo countdowns

dusky garnet
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Movie sonic has been the most of them all

indigo vapor
dusky garnet
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Are they really just gonna introduce amy for the sake of wow girl for sonic to fall for

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That would be ofc, expected cuz people have no taste

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But it would suck

ember talon
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Worst case scenario honestly, but I can't see them do that

peak dew
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they should introduce her wife Trip too

indigo vapor
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yea me neither, but all I’m saying is that if they do it, I’m gonna be on the news

indigo vapor
dusky garnet
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But also i am being a broken record at this point

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But sadly thats gonna be the drill

peak dew
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at least we had a trilogy of old man yaoi before the straights could ruin things

ember talon
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I mean tbh straight shipping can be fine

dusky garnet
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If sonic and amy just be friends in the movie then ill be happy but not with how people demand for it

peak dew
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(or like, medium man yaoi, how old is eggman in these again like middle-aged right)

ember talon
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I just don't think Amy should exist mainly for shipping since she is essentially the first female sonic char. It'll be such an asspull for her to just exist

indigo vapor
dusky garnet
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Nah no way

ember talon
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should be younger than in game series I guess, but not too much

dusky garnet
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Hes 50s

peak dew
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yeah I was thinking 50s, and stones in his 30s somewhere ig?

indigo vapor
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Was just about to say, if he was a child by the time Maria died, then yea he’d prob be 50’s or 60’s

peak dew
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man what an age gap stone you have a TYPE

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he yearns for the dilf

dusky garnet
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it would be a 10 year gap i think

indigo vapor
dusky garnet
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Anyways
Sonic 4 is gonna be rough for a gay bitter man thats also a fan of amy rose- me

indigo vapor
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let’s just pray the heads at paramount have them just be friends

dusky garnet
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Ye

tacit apex
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Sonic 4 could probably be some terminator like story

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and they do love the pop culture references

indigo vapor
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I do kinda hope they tone down the pop culture references a bit

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Like I don’t dislike it but I do think the films could do without them

tacit apex
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Oh you know they will double down on it

ivory loom
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you know

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actually i dont know i forgot the conversation i was gonna start :|

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metal sonic yay :D

ember talon
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neo metal sonic plz 🙏

mossy imp
indigo vapor
dusky garnet
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What DOES THAT MEAN IEKSKSK

tacit apex
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We could have a Neo Metal Sonic in 4, But I bet they could save that for a post credits scene, After Metal Sonic was defeated, Robotnik recovers him, and rebuilts into Neo Metal Sonic

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Hopefully he won't be a one and done, But something we could see expanded on the other movies

peak dew
ivory loom
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idk what the point of that is when you can just have neo metal in the 4th movie

tacit apex
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You could have all 3 stages of Metal Sonic in one movie

indigo vapor
tacit apex
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Regular, Neo, and Overlord

dusky garnet
peak dew
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fair fair

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by movie 4 u will have whoever/whatever your heart desires plus a million dollars 🫵🫵

indigo vapor
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if u think about it you should up it to a billion

peak dew
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don't push it buster

dusky garnet
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Yea its too much

indigo vapor
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oh okey

ember talon
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We have multiple metals

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I feel like it makes more sense for Neo Metal Sonic being in sonic 4 movie as the de facto leader

tacit apex
ember talon
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Right and even then they aren't going to like complete 1:1 to the comics obviously

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They'll take some inspiration of course while managed to do their own thing

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Which again is one of the main point of the movie series

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Their "own" direction while staying true to the chars

tacit apex
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These movies references things from other media, So I think the comics are on the table.

ember talon
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I mean obviously yeah

mossy imp
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I say just

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Wait until you introduce Neo

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I probably would think it'd be too fast of a recovery if they made him the antagonist of the very next movie

ember talon
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Yeah there is that

tacit apex
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There is something I wanna see happen, Heroes establishes that Neo Metal Sonic can morph into anybody, So we could see him do some T-1000 things, Such as morphing into Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow or Amy.

ember talon
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if this is how they bring back Eggman in Sonic 4 Movie I am perfectly okay with it

sturdy token
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Honestly they cooked

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and it would be ironically be accurate to game Eggman with Frontiers

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One of the prequel comics shows that Eggman was frustrated with his current machines (Orbot and Cubot) because they were inefficient

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and wished that one of his creations makes him proud for a change

ember talon
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Yeah it seems like they are actually trying to make Eggman feel more "human". Helps that Eggman's char is completely different over the movie series

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So the direction is going to be a lot more interesting over him while pushing more over Stone's development towards him

tacit apex
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With Metal Sonic, Its more then his ultimate creation, I could see that as being a Son of sorts

ember talon
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In terms of future for sure

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But in sonic 4 movie, I don't think as much

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Since it's hard to say whether they'll utilize time travel or not if we get an alternative version of eggman

tacit apex
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Who knows, Maybe they go the Eggman Nega route

ember talon
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Probably without using the name obviously

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💀

boreal hornet
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Eggman Nega just sucks as an alternate variant

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But Robotnik should just stay dead and have Jim's return be via new flashbacks or something like video/audio recordings

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Metal being a creation of GUN works far better anyways

tacit apex
spice ember
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having fun tiger

ember talon
ivory loom
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I have a really good idea for it too

fallen harness
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Ya know listening to the Angry Birds movie soundtrack… I think Heitor Pereira could do a good job on a Sonic movie soundtrack

ivory loom
fallen harness
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I mean he did better for 3

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But that’s just because Tyson pushed for it

worldly patio
ember talon
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The more I think about it. You think the next movie is going to be a chaos emerald hunt considering we have no idea what happened to them as of now?

tacit apex
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I dont know if they will do the time stones in the next one, they are too much like the chaos emeralds, So I think there's gonna be something where one of the pieces deals with time.

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Also we don't know where the master emerald went

sweet river
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Wouldn’t be surprised if they just have it just cause

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Doesn’t seem like they’re that bothered to keep track of details like that

analog trout
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yeah, details like those aren't exaaaaaaaaactly important, since that's not usually the point of the scenes

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though if I had to be fair, on the other hand, the movies tend to have a habit of just sweeping things under the rug once all's said and done

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like,
"Oh, I guess the government just decided to erase Robotnik despite him being hired"
and
"Oh, I guess the Chaos Emeralds are back in the Master Emerald"
etc etc

elder bear
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#SonicTheHedgehog3 ready to cross 450M & beat #DetectivePikachu as #2 highest grossing video game adaptation at Global #BoxOffice next week!

Spectacular 10.6M on 5th weekend overseas, just a -30.3% drop from last week…

▶ Play video
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4M away from pikachu

fallen harness
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There’s no way he said 4 is a multiverse film and RPK had to correct him 😭

ember talon
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Nah he cooked with this one

sweet river
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Matching his corny freak would be the move

sturdy token
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Basically these two like eachother but they are also on eachother's ass

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which adds a very good dynamic

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Akane annoys Ranma on some form, Ranma annoys her back

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or in reverse

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That, combined with their pop-culture stuff, would make them very entertaining

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"Eh those sailor girls aren't as cool as the speed force"

"How dare you?! Flash would not be able to defeat any of them!"

"Retract yourself!"

analog trout
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Ranma mention

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I don't care what it is, I agree full heartedly

analog trout
# sturdy token Akane annoys Ranma on some form, Ranma annoys her back

not to mention,
Akane is someone that enjoys being girly and elegant, cooking and baking (even if she's terrible at it), but just can't help but smash something if you poke her long enough (with Ranma, just one second)

definitely Amy vibes though less bubbly as she's usually seen as

dusky garnet
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Can that be built naturally then

sturdy token
dusky garnet
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If i have to deal with that

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Can they just have a developing kind of relationship

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Instead of what people are asking for

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Where they is no connection or chemstry at all its just oh its a girl for sonic to go awooga for

sturdy token
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But as the series goes, both of them slowly see what the other has going for

analog trout
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mind you, those who want that are usually shippers, who already have the "chemistry" built in their little brains

while films are obligated to make it gradual

dusky garnet
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No they dont

sturdy token
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Mhm the movies cannot just state things out of the sudden

dusky garnet
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All they need to do is to make sonic go immediately gaga for amy and then have girl issues and they will be satisfied lol

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The only way id accept something like sonic and amy as sort of a romantic thing is if they are together through the whole movie and have really good chemistry from the get go

sturdy token
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Ranma-Akane coded dynamic would do a lot for them

dusky garnet
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But please

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None of this sonic needs to be a simp bs

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Let them fight together and have interactions without no one saying omg sonic is into this girl

analog trout
dusky garnet
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Let the cast accept amy as a new friend without assuming thinngs

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I beg you

analog trout
dusky garnet
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If you are gonna have this happen, at least make it not hetnorm

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And thats where i stop at this
If i see another fanart of sonic being a simp for movie amy ill just dropkick the nearest pole

sturdy token
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and then she hunts him down to hit for the cookies while Sonic continues to tease her about the cookies

indigo vapor
night anvil
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Amy’s just been on earth the entire time, but she’s been living independently unlike Sonic

indigo vapor
kind cedar
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essentially doing what sonic should be doing

sturdy token
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@ember talon

ember talon
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👀

ember talon
mossy imp
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Her being the only one that can stand his pop culture shit

twin shoal
fallen harness
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Sonic 3 but better

analog trout
spice ember
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this is funny im sorry

fallen harness
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Doesn’t pre production start next month

ember talon
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Yeah

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This is just misinfo

sturdy token
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I assume they already have some small ideas, but the actual pre production hasn't even started

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so this shouldn't be taken as legitimate info anyway

mossy imp
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I mean
It wouldn't be all that surprising anyway given it's adapting CD, which has time travel baked into its gameplay

amber mortar
mossy imp
worldly patio
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Same

tacit apex
agile dragon
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Oo that’s interesting to think about

tacit apex
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I would assume that saving LongClaw is going to have some really bad consequence in the timeline

kind cedar
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I mean we don't even know if she's dead

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cause tails knew longclaw right?

tacit apex
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Time travel is a very complicated topic, Because if you change something in the past, There's always the possibility that there will be some unforseen consequence as a result of the change in the timeline

fallen harness
kind cedar
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damn

sturdy token
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so it doesn't backfire

tacit apex
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There are different rules, depending on how they aproach it, They could go the easy route, and do the back to the future rules, Some of the other time travel rules usually result in a different branch of the timeline, which results in a multiversal scenerio.

sturdy token
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The easier ones, and the ones CD works with for the most part, are back to the future ones

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You travel to the past and change an element of it? It alters the future in small or big ways

tacit apex
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Its gonna be more BTTF then anything due to speed being the result

sturdy token
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Yeah. I remember Ohshima used back to the future as a base for the time travel in CD

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At the very least, the time travel mechanic in CD works just like the DeLorean does

tacit apex
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We also have to deal with the idea of the bad future, Something that is the result of a change in the past, Like for example, Should Sonic save Longclaw in the past, It could cause a Bad Future, Because certain people weren't involve to prevent, Say Robotnik from taking over.

sturdy token
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Marty saved his father and he nearly self erased himself of existance

kind cedar
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and BTTF 2's 'biff timeline'

tacit apex
sturdy token
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Yeah that's a more literal bad timeline

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With Biff ruling over Hill Valley and making it a hell for everyone

tacit apex
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Maybe during the last race, Sonic was running so fast, He traveled forward in time without realizing

tacit apex
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Because literally, that post credit scene is Sonic and Amy's first meeting

sturdy token
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It doesn't seem like he time traveled forward in time and more so just arrived to New York by accident but could be wrong and he could be in the future without realizing it

kind cedar
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if that's the case then it'd be fun if the place signs all had egg pun names

tacit apex
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Also I wonder if that's the same race from the end of the movie, Because it was night time by the time Sonic arrived in that area from New York

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It was daytime when they raced at the end

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and he somehow ended up some place while its night time

kind cedar
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orrrrr timezones maybe? not sure how it works over in murica though

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Like montana and new york are on opposite ends of the US

tacit apex
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Green Hills is in Montana, and that would be Mountain Time

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NY is EST

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Eastern time is about 2 hours ahead of mountain time

indigo vapor
tacit apex
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Depending on the change in daylight savings, It could be dark at EST time, but still some daylight at MT

ember talon
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I get the feeling if longclaw does appear we may see a smal glimpse of what happened after being seperated from sonic

twin shoal
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The Flames of Disaster

night anvil
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he should’ve moved on by now

indigo vapor
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Agreed

night anvil
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well uh, wrong words but

indigo vapor
night anvil
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yeah

sturdy token
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I think it can work if they pull a Meet the Robinsons

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almost at the end, Willburg takes Lewis to the past, more specifically, to the day where his mother left him at the orphanage

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Lewis approaches but ultimately doesn't stop that woman and returns to the future

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because he accepted that he has, and will have, good things so there was no need

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Not saying they have to do this. I just say that, if they do, this route would be the most natural for movie Sonic to have

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it's bittersweet that he could save his first mom but he knows that she wouldn't have liked him to alter the natural course of things even if it is for her hence he doesn't (that or that his new family made him who he is hence there is no need to alter such event. After all, as strange as it sounds, sometimes you need darkness to see the light)

worldly patio
fallen harness
deft stream
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PLEASE someone tell me they got the reference in the new Tails’ Channel post

tacit apex
dusky garnet
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I think im gonna mute this channel goodbye

mossy imp
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😭

sturdy token
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😭

ivory loom
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😭

peak dew
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(also historically i would not be asking a police officer for how to approach a relationship cheers)

ember talon
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Hated how majority of the tweets is just SonAmy related when it comes to Movie Amy

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😔

peak dew
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well of course, that is all New Woman Character can be, no interesting stories the extent of their existence can only be pairing them with Existing Man Character

ember talon
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Sadness

peak dew
ivory loom
peak dew
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d

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do u not know dril

ember talon
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Even with yuri I don't really care too much tbh 💀

ivory loom
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why is he using my name?

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dont like that :c

peak dew
peak dew
ember talon
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LMAO

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Like the yuri/yaoi stuff is still cool, but never the main focus to my eyes outside of romance shows/games imho

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I am just hope for Sonic 4 Movie just at least more focusing over Amy being an actual char, that's all really

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Bit a pain that the first impression you get over her is being Sonic's girlfriend

fallen harness
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Sonic 4 Post Credit Scenes having Mephiles talking to Silver about Sonic being the Iblis Trigger

Quoting The Hollywood Handle (@HollywoodHandle)

‘SONIC 4’ will reportedly feature “time travel elements.”

In theaters on March 19, 2027.

(Via: @DanielRPK)

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Do they know chat

ember talon
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These fucking 06 fans man

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💀

sturdy token
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😭

ember talon
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Like nah I'm sorry, but that shit ain't happening considering it's reptuation lmao

spice ember
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is wanting someone like silver really that crazy

tacit apex
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Silver is still on the table for the movies

ember talon
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Silver himself is always fine enough

ivory loom
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i mean...

ember talon
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Plus doesn't help over with how Iblis is treated to so that shit is going to be completely different

ivory loom
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Iblis is already in the movie universe

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so like

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Silver could exist possibly?

tacit apex
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I be surprise if we get Silver, Before Rouge, Big, or the Chaotix.

ivory loom
ember talon
ivory loom
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but its not like reputation is an issue

night anvil
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I need them to keep pushing Silver back it’d be soooo funny

ivory loom
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i dont

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i like silver :c

ember talon
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Fair of course wint

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I doubt

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I am cool with Silver

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But expecting him before Amy and Metal Sonic?

night anvil
ember talon
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That's expecting too much

night anvil
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What I dont like are silver fans

tacit apex
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With Silver's connection to time travel, they aren't going to do 06, He'll be there from a different context, but still time travel being somehow involved.

ivory loom
ember talon
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Yeah I am not fond over the SIlver fans at all 💀

tacit apex
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If the movie were a terminator like story, Silver would be the John Connor type who sent Amy to save Sonic.

ember talon
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~~Couldn't help it due to that tweet 💀 ~~

fallen harness
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Fair

twin shoal
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Flames of Disaster

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Wade

spice ember
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ha ha ha ha ha

tacit apex
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What if.... Wade is the Iblis Trigger?

slow maple
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No

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Lol

amber mortar
mossy imp
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Been on my mind for hours

vast inlet
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We upgraded from "almost all" to "all"

amber mortar
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W

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The movie will end up very close to 500M

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Below or above

peak dew
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like, at this point its a case of when rather than if surely

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the box office for 2 was enough to justify getting the knux show off the ground, can’t imagine they’d waste time here either

amber mortar
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He's 100% in movie 4

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He might even get his own series

peak dew
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hooooonestly I could see him skipping movie 4 in favour of headlining a spinoff tbh

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(I’d prefer a movie for him but if they go for another P+ series I’d take that too)

amber mortar
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But jane

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The money

peak dew
amber mortar
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A movie is too much of a risk

vast inlet
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With Shadow????

peak dew
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yeah like, is the new guy from the second highest-grossing gaming movie of all time that much of a “risk” lmao

next wedge
peak dew
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(combine that with the sales from shadow gens and it’s clear, the people crave the hedgehog)

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think the main thing it hinges on is if Keanu’s got time free for it tbh

elder bear
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ofc its not gonna make billions but i feel like it can make the same amount as the first one

sweet river
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I rather have a Shadow series cause I need to see some downtime and things to settle for once

elder bear
obtuse lynx
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i know this is like a late response, but sonic 3 really one of the best cg movies out there huh

sturdy token
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they didn't rush, they had everyone working properly and healthy

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it allowed the CGI to go as cool as it could be

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without giving it drawbacks

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Plus it also helps that it relies on clear sets wherever is possible

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and only leans on CG to enhance them of a way it cannot do with physical

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rather than fully going on it making the tool harder for everyone

mossy imp
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Also helps that they aren't working on multiple projects at once

sturdy token
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and not like 6 or so

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That gives more time to breathe

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at least based in that the Knuckles series and movie 3 were worked in similar times

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(but even then Knuckles went for practical as far as it could, with only ep6 being the CG heavy episode)

sturdy token
# sturdy token and not like 6 or so

MCU by comparison has 2-3 movies in a year WITH 2 or 3 series (not counting the marvel television ones such as X-Men 97 or the new Spider-man one cause they are another group so their work process is different)

tacit apex
sturdy token
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in this era of films, the sonic movies resonate with plenty of people because they're focused on nailing their themes and are focused in the movie at hand

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Like yes they do set-up stuff for future movies and yara yara

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but you never feel like a movie or so is done for sequel sake or for a grander direction

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they are just another chapter in the life of these characters

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With new obstacles and challenges but still focused with each installment

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In a sense, the sonic movies are akin to 80's movies like back to the future or indiana jones

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just movies focused on the character and the new problem at hand, movies that may set up for later but ultimately the focus is on the current issue

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At least in my opinion

tacit apex
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I can see the 80s and 90s formula in the movie, Especially with the references.

sturdy token
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Yeah, yeah. Which works as a breath of fresh air compared to other current franchises who feel like in a hurry of creating the next MCU

tacit apex
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Those era of movies were not overly complex, they were easy to follow

sturdy token
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Yeah, they were because they didn't have a mayor plan at large

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just 'hey let's see how we can make these characters deal with new situations'

tacit apex
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The movies arent setting up the next one, They have a plot they stick through to the end, And when we get to a post credit, Its to setup who shows up in the next one, But don't reveal what the plot of the next one could be, Just the, Here's whose gonna be in the next movie, and that's pretty much it

sturdy token
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That's pretty much it, yeah.

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There is no grander direction like Thanos or anything

tacit apex
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We can only speculate what the next one could be, Just because of the characters that will be in it

sturdy token
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Exactly

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heck it is less indulgent than back to the future

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the 'post credits' of back to the future already gave you an idea of what the next installment will do

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back to the future 1 - they'll go to 2015 and marty's kids are in trouble

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back to the future 2 - doc brown ended in 1885 and you must save him

tacit apex
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It took a couple of years for us to get to BTTF part 2

sturdy token
tacit apex
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It makes me wonder if there will be a time jump in the next one, The way it ended, Seemed like it was the conclusion of the race at the end of the movie. But that's for us to find out in the next one, Because Movie 4 will have a version of this very scene.

sturdy token
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It seemed to be

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yeah

tacit apex
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It could be at the begining or in the middle, who knows

sturdy token
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Who knows? Only in two years we will know

tacit apex
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We have to play the waiting game

sturdy token
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Mhm. That's all we can do for now

sturdy token
mossy imp
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Why he hitting the

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tacit apex
willow forge
ember talon
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Not wrong but honestly if they wanted to introduce Silver it should be barely anything to do with 06

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Especially with Iblis

willow forge
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oh yeah.

ember talon
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I feel like for Silver when it comes to 06 related is only just time travel and that's it while being his complete own char

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Which basically.... is him recently

willow forge
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06....had a lot going against it. The fact it even made it onto shelves is a thermodynamic miracle.

-The cancellation of the Dreamcast the same year Adventure 2 launched

-Learning and adapting to several major console platforms outside of their own, in Sonic Team's case.

-Two major leads cutting ties to SEGA with half the team having to work on Secret Rings.

Sonic's 15th Anniversary

Like I said. Thermodynamic Miracle it made it out at all

ember talon
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It's why to me when it comes to adaptations I feel like could work out well for general audience are: Heroes (not fully confirmed yet), SA1, Unleashed, and Colors

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I would say Frontiers but that one is a complete different case lmao

willow forge
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Silver is arguably the only saving grace of the game. With an actual reason behind his appearance here. Well saving grace or spiteful curse.

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Though mercifully enough, 06 is, by it's nature, a self-contained story. A story that, for all intents and purposes, never really happened

boreal hornet
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You can't say that when he's genuinely one of the worst aspects

ember talon
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06 is just unfortunately an infamous sonic game and most of the time the general audience bring it up is "Elise kissing Sonic" 💀

willow forge
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Also, let's not kid ourselves. 06 was supposed to be Adventure 3.

boreal hornet
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He is not a saving grace when he is a rooted magnet for some of the worst bugs and moments the game has to offer

ember talon
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Also yeah I wouldn't say that either. Silver left a VERY bad first impression

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His reputation gotten way better later on but his debut is just awful

boreal hornet
ember talon
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It's why to me he isn't like Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Metal Sonic, or Shadow where they all managed to leave a good first impression

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Shadow especially considering his debut

willow forge
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Especially when it came to OC's.....we don't talk about that.

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But I digress....

willow forge
ember talon
willow forge
ember talon
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essentially yeah

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Only time that managed to do this well back to back is Metal Sonic

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Metal Sonic having a very good first impression with CD, then you get with OVA and then you get Heroes despite having such low amount of appearances in main series

amber mortar
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And technically so was unleashed

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not even technically, it was actually adventure 3 up until the werehog came in

willow forge
# amber mortar I mean... who would argue otherwise ?

Everyone when I was younger kept holding onto hope it would come. But by this point, I hope many realize that it is just never gonna happen. Just never gonna exist. Especially with expectations being shot beyond the atmosphere at this point.

ember talon
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06 is like the closest thing you can say is SA3

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Heroes does exist but the team mechanic made it stand out well enough

willow forge
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Same with unleashed. Though, I can definitely understand an argument for why. At least for the PS3 and Xbox. I had the Wii version of Unleashed.

ember talon
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Unleashed is... a hard maybe

sturdy token
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Hard maybe, yeah

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It's a more linear story

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rather than one told from different points of views

willow forge
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Fair enough.

ember talon
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Main thing that feels like an SA3 is not only the multiple playable chars but also the gameplay

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06 is essentially what could have been SA3

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Too bad 06 feels too loose compared to SA1 and SA2 at least story wise

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💀

sturdy token
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I feel 06 kinda didn't get what made sa1 particularily work

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storywise

ember talon
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Story wise I feel like it tries way too different for the wrong reason

sturdy token
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Like at it's core, it has a similar base to that of sa1 but it fumbles them because it doesn't get that all stories of sa1 have 1 single core around them: Chaos (character)

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all of them have chaos as a focal point which allows them to mesh together thematically and chronologically

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while 06 is just 3 stories that are eating eachother

willow forge
# ember talon Metal Sonic having a very good first impression with CD, then you get with OVA a...

Each one of those iterations brought up something the other never considered or wanted to implement.

CD played up the role of the Silent Copy

OVA hinted to him being more than just a robotic mockery

Heroes became a composite of these two....utilizing the look of a silent robot, but slowly proving it is more than we believed as it can use the BioData of its targets to evolve and empower itself

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Let alone be able to shapeshift into the Doctor

ember talon
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pretty much. Those 3 alone just excel what made metal popular, which silver severely lacked

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Closest you can say over him is the comics and at the same time? Not much

willow forge
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In fact, Shadow Generations Reminds us he was delusional enough to believe he was a god.

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Though, with all that power and information, it's kinda hard to disagree.

amber mortar
amber mortar
ember talon
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Yeah I feel like when it comes to SA3 is just going to remain a pipe dream unless they manage to reach that point

boreal hornet
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oh yea that reminds me i gotta write down all the lines Metal Overlord had in Heroes and redub it to sound like his new voice for a fun lil experiment or maybe mod project if I knew anyone capable of that

sturdy token
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I feel in general, Silver lacked a lot of the aura that made Shadow stand out in 06

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compared to Shadow in sa2, he is played way too directly and with barely any flare

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You may say 'oh it makes sense, he's a time traveler of an apocalyptic future, he would go directly' but Trunks had more aura in his introduction

ember talon
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I don't think he needs to be like having "aura"

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Silver can still be an interesting char enough without that. Just that the problem is 06 did a poor job handling him

sturdy token
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It took a while for him to reveal his intents but in the meantime

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he did things that are very cool and in a way that is unique to him

sturdy token
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like think Shadow in sa2

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and how theathical he is in spite of being a tragic character

ember talon
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Yeah that I get

sturdy token
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Silver is more played out by comparison, which is fine in a vacuum

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but when you have both sonic and shadow be more stylish

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then you are the one lacking

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(and even literally. Shadow was so extra by kicking Silver's back using Chaos control)

willow forge
sturdy token
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Shadow was so extra for something as mundane as that

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He could do it by skill alone

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but Shadow decided to add insult to injury

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Silver needed more of that 'it's not practical but fuck it' type of moments

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like I talked with Deleter about it

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imagine this

Sonic and Elise arrive at the docks. Suddenly, the waters raise dramatically and they slice in half a la Moises; and from that division, Silver comes. The water raising and being sliced were done by Silver's psychokinesis

ember talon
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Doesn't need to do it, but continues to steal the show

ivory loom
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character wise, not really

sturdy token
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Sonic X Intro - Movie Style

💙🖤💛❤️💖

#SonicTheHedgehog #TailsTheFox #KnucklesTheEchidna #ShadowTheHedgehog #DrEggman #amyrose #MetalSonic #SonicMovie #SonicMovie2 #SonicMovie3 #SonicMovie4 #gottagofast

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analog trout
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That honestly kinda slapped

sturdy token
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It's very cool, and fitting for movie sonic

wicked hearth
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Wait was this convo posted? (it's so popular so probably yes)

amber mortar
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No way

fallen harness
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50?!

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It on digital

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Just pay $25 and you can watch it anytime bro 😭

sweet river
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Don’t ask him how many times he’s seen Sonic 2 in theaters

fallen harness
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Didn’t he see it like 200

sweet river
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Ah so you are aware

fallen harness
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Yep

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Honestly if I saw it that many times I’d be sick of going to the theater

dusky garnet
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This is so ridiculous

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Legitmate fucking dumb

peak dew
amber mortar
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i mean, he can do whatever he wants as far as i'm aware, can't he ?

sweet river
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Yeah

analog hull
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Man if sonic 4 released a week earlier it wouldve been the best birthday gift ever

mossy imp
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Also some of you shouldn't be talking with how you spend your money, I'm gonna be fr

next wedge
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That theater must be his house

sturdy token
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I wanted you all to take a moment to appreciate how faithful and accurate this whole edit is to the actual opening

Insane stuff good work

Quoting EPIC CLOSING (@ClosingEpic)

Sonic X Intro - Movie Style

💙🖤💛❤️💖

#SonicTheHedgehog #TailsTheFox #KnucklesTheEchidna #ShadowTheHedgehog #DrEggman #amyrose #MetalSonic #SonicMovie #SonicMovie2 #Soni...

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dusky garnet
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Wow this is awesome

sturdy token
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The creative fans go crazy

tacit apex
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Honest Trailers does Sonic Movie 3 https://youtu.be/lPDu8T3YIuU?si=NyYPQl0MxCBeO57k

It's time to get HONEST about Sonic the Hedgehog 3! It's...good? I guess we should stop being surprised at this point, the age of crappy video game movies is over, the age of above average fan-service has begun! Shadow for president! Jim Carrey for emperor!

Voice Narration: Jon Bailey aka Epic Voice Guy
Title Design: Robert Holtby
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analog trout
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Watching Always Sunny, I’m only reminded of how Charlie Day would’ve been Sonic had fate been different

tacit apex
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An italian sounding Sonic would have been quite something

versed karma
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luigi sonic

indigo vapor
willow forge
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Meaning you went to same theater 50. Freaking. Times

fallen harness
peak dew
kind cedar
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p u s h t h e b u t t o n

ember talon
indigo vapor
sturdy token
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I can see Movie Sonic and Chris playing baseball actually

sweet river
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X Sonic def wouldnt be chilling at Tom's place as often as Movie Sonic is thas fo sure

sturdy token
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Yeah I can agree on that

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he would run off more often

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Tom probably may say that Sonic is a bit reckless at times but that's about it

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Heck he would probably invite Sonic to fish or something

mossy imp
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Ngl this kinda implies that Sonic would be mad reckless and cause more chaos around town when in actuality he'd just sleep on the roof for most of the day

sturdy token
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Mhm

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X Sonic is not that chaotic, he just dips and goes somewhere to chill

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Tom has no reason to be so angry (and even then he doesn't reinforce his role as police like that lmao)

next wedge
amber mortar
ivory loom
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would make for some nice variety

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even if the third act of sonic 3 was the greatest thing ive ever seen in any piece of sonic media outside of giganto maybe

obtuse lynx
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hey

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sonic movie nerds

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does anyone the name of the song that plays when suepr shadow is throwing sonic into the mountains in the soundtrack? i cant find it for some reason

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i really like the live and learn rendition there

amber mortar
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Can't find it

paper cradle
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yeah its not on the OST for some reason

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a few tracks in the movie aren't on there

amber mortar
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“I Can't Let You Live” from Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (Music from the Motion Picture) | Music by Tom Holkenborg
► Listen to the soundtrack here: https://soundtracks.lnk.to/sonic3AY
► Ask your voice device to play: "Sonic the Hedgehog 3 Soundtrack”

ABOUT SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 3
Sonic, Knuckles and Tails reunite to battle Shadow, a mysterious new e...

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Around the 2:37 min mark

paper cradle
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i think this is the same part but this OST version has the guitars that play in the movie turned way down for some reason?

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iirc the 06 eggman theme part is just straight up missing?

amber mortar
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Mf really was like "ewww sonic music"

obtuse lynx
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that live and learn guitar riff was so good i was hoping i could isolate it from all that sfx but its even more blurred 😭

paper cradle
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i think if you get the actual file of the digital release of the movie you could isolate the OST from the rest of the audio channels to get that version?

indigo vapor
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Yea that could work

paper cradle
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maybe someone already did that idk

indigo vapor
amber mortar
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LMFAOOOOO

indigo vapor
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😭 dawg run it really surpassed live and learn

night anvil
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mistakes were made

ivory loom
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Tortured Poets Department was really successful in spite of its bad reception

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you just gotta accept the fact that boring ass music is gonna be more popular than Crush 40

indigo vapor
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yea true

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Sadly

ivory loom
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Welcome to The Madhouse got bad reception

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and yet I still here Tones and I on the radio

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which makes me not even want to be an Australian

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but hey, at least we got Tame Impala and Mick Gordon :)

obtuse lynx
elder bear
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finally

vast inlet
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How is it doing on Spotify?

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11.5m, uh-oh

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Ok, at least it's not beaten Live & Learn's spotify numbers yet, but kinda scary it got this much at this short amount of time

spice ember
amber mortar
spice ember
red field
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no

indigo vapor
peak dew
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jesus christ

sturdy token
# peak dew

What a good home and health do to an antropomophic blue hedgehog

mossy imp
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I didn't know working on these movies actively made Marsden shrink in size

sturdy token
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and recorded his face and what not (?

peak dew
analog trout
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a nitpick at best, not gonna lost sleep over it, but I always scratch my head how they always seem to jump back and forth on what the logo should be, well after it's been settled even

sturdy token
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spice ember
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what’s wrong now

ivory loom
spice ember
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ok

shadow hound
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i look forward to whenever that rig comes out.
gahh i wanna make art of it

ember talon
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I want SEGA to push the agenda of Metal Sonic acquring a arm cannon in main series

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🙏

sturdy token
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just Metal being a sheer menace

analog trout
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https://vxtwitter.com/EvaSarette/status/1884652786018631712

Paramount, for the love of god, do the right thing

I animated Amy Rose with Kimiko Glenn voicelines (Izzy from My Little Pony)!
I think her voice is perfect for Amy!
Enjoy! :))

#sonic #sonicmovie4 #sonicmovie3 #animation #amyrose #ShadowTheHedgehog #SonicTheHedgehog #s…

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tacit apex
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Not bad at all

twin shoal
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWTbLZCR84k&ab_channel=FlashbackFM
I would think of Sonic vs Metal Sonic like this and then has GUN came in action

Man of Steel (2013)
Faora-Ul vs Kal-El
Man of Steel Playlist: https://goo.gl/4NvSXB

Film discription: Clark Kent, one of the last of an extinguished race disguised as an unremarkable human, is forced to reveal his identity when Earth is invaded by an army of survivors who threaten to bring the planet to the brink of destruction.

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Just think of this fight happened in Tom's hometown

slow maple
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Ain't got the budget for that

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It'll be 30 seconds of fighting

amber mortar
sturdy token
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One of the points of the first movie is how Longclaw told Sonic that he had to remain hidden or not be seen

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due to the risks of someone figuring out his powers

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if they are childhood friends, they should have longclaw taking Sonic home like an overprotective mother

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saying that it is too risky to be with Amy because his powers can put her in danger

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Which would contrast very well with current Sonic who is more than enough confident and capable to use his powers to protect her

kind cedar
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I like it

analog trout
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I dunno why, but with this in mind, I can’t help but imagine a more comedic take on their reunion

Sonic wondering who Amy was and Amy getting upset he doesn’t remember his own childhood friend (no thanks to his overprotective owl mom)

Kinda like how ChiChi got angry Goku just forgot about her

indigo vapor
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I’ve come to make an announcement, all five belows should be burned due to the fact that I tried looking for a shadow poster and they didn’t have it in stock, and when I found its color it was just a Minecraft image, therefore all five belows must be burned

fleet shadow
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Has enough time passed to have an indeoth discussion about film shadow
I find him fascinating

sturdy token
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Really?

fleet shadow
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He is different than his game counter part in a way that impresses me. They could have easily taken a pretentious/jaded approach when engaging with the character but they chose a homestly pretty ernest and genuine take on the character

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I think i like the games more overall. It leans more into the weird and allegories than the films do. But film shadow is pretty engaging. Film shadow...made me like idw less? Which seems unrelated but i promise you, its not

dusky garnet
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No i agree

sturdy token
dusky garnet
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Idw shadow is just very unlikable

fleet shadow
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Not just shadow, film shadow made me key in on one my larger issues with idw in general. By being...a good character

dusky garnet
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Yea exactly

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Is like Shadow in IDW and such has to always be saying NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO or IM NOT INTERESTED

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I just hate seeing shadow in idw cuz hes not fun

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Hes just an angry powerful guy that doesnt accept anything or like anything

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And thats all there is to him

fleet shadow
# sturdy token What do you mean pretentious/jaded?

Im a fan of shadow, ive also done art professionally. I see a lot of takes or redesigns that take the oomph out because they do not wish to engage with his edgyness in earnest.

Idw actually suffers from this in general with multiple characters. I think sometimes in a bit too deep can blind you from the basic functions of a character and it could have been litteral hot topic emo shadow rather than a hurt kid

ember talon
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Movie Shadow honestly shows so much over why I have hard time liking shadow during post 06. IDW Shadow...... is just even worse

fleet shadow
dusky garnet
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I get why shadow is the way he is and the way sega wants him to be

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But thay doesnt make him a good character

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Like it feels like theu are eo insecure in making him a character

fleet shadow
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Idw is simple because the the people writing the book in the beginning got too meta and wrote themselves in a corner.

dusky garnet
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Like he has to always say

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How much superior he is

fleet shadow
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The movie works because it just...explains him

dusky garnet
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How much people dont matter to him

spice ember
#

did shadow the hedgehog in the idw series of sonic the hedgehog comics really say that

fleet shadow
sturdy token
dusky garnet
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Yea

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How was that accepted

spice ember
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he might actually have superior hands though

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Only time he wasn't like that was just urban arc. Anything else before that IDW Shadow has that behavior

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That's just a dumb thing to say but meta it doesn't have anything

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He doesnt claim superiority hes just...angry and unexplained

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thats how I’d describe it

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I’ve been slowly catching up to idw, i got done with surge’s rampage with the wisps and I haven’t read any further

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900th adventure was....... quite a comic

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from my memory shadow appeared a grand total oooooof two times or maybe three idk 😭

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and he was angry and brooding and he was gone

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# sturdy token Huh? What does that have of meta?

Ill connect back to my point. Film shadow is just a character being introduced to you and explained to you.

Shadow in idw, is a character never actually introduced they operate under the presumption you know and write him like that. They also write him like they know only to be met with rules but thats kinda a different discussion

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isn’t there a shadow one shot coming

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Shadow as a character needs to be explained to a degree anf he never is

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But heres the thing , a lot of idw is like that!

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And i dont know if thats good

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Shadow one shot will be interesting to see post movie shadow

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this feels like it'd work better if shadow looked more smug and honestly I'm wondering if he was only for editorial to put the kibosh on it

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Ideally he would be smug saying this shit

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But he cant be too smug no more ig

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Prime does, the movies do, the games do

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Idw never bothers

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btw is this just about idw shadow or like, the game version of shadow in general

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IDW Shadow

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if you're already a fan its a walk in the park but the immediate first arc is neo metal and angel island and practically none of it is ever explained

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Follow me here

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Shadow is described to be someone who hounds on something untill its done

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So eggman is eggman again, why isnt he killing eggman

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Hes dangerous no?

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The worst he gets is tsr i suppose

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I don’t think I like film shadow more than the one we already have in the games, I think both are very good at what they do

But if there’s one thing, I think the shadow we have currently could like, loosen up a bit 😭

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And even then thats more so the western version

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The jp version of tsr shadow is far more

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Introducing a character who's known to be about it. And set his goal up to kill the villian is setting him up for nothing

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which is weird because shadow was kind of a smug bitch at times in sa2 and heroes

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No nonsense

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idk where that went

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I also hate the new thing where sonic says shit like “u working for eggman this time???”

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Like fuck off lmao

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Sonic has more trust in shadow than that

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I cannot fucking stand TSR writing at all. Doesn't help that it's after fucking Forces

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it's nothing new

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Well guess what

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Sonic X is bad

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It's true

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no it’s not

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it’s

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good and it has

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animation

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Almost

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Beyond trust he should know better. Thats what i meant by meta writing

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Idw characters are frequently not written for themselves or the audience but to commicate the writers thoughts on the series itself

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And...it sucks

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It worked once, with surge and only kinda

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The film characters flaws in all are characters

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like yadayada different pipelines and workflows and whatever

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but wow vectorRunners

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And i appreciate them for that

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I don't think anything in early IDW was meta until Starline specifically, he's the only one who is hard-coded into being meta (and Surge and Kit but that's by reflect I suppose)

Other characters are just using the continuity to form new conflicts and ideas

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I am only hoping we get actual progress over the current game cast. Only time that is very noticeable are Chaotix, SIlver, and Amy

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Not saying everything is of quality or well-done but nothing feels that pushing. It isn't like Gumball or even X

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where a lot of it's plot beats and such are actually meta stuff on the Internet, memes, tendencies, etc in the case of the former, and the other pointing it's nature as a cartoon, the characters having specific traits, etc

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Instead of writing a narrative that speaks to the characters or is about anything, its just maintenence as to why the audience shouldn't question why these cartoon characters dont murder a guy

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This continues as well beyond just starline.

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I heard Starline, what’s going on

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Im not even saying you cant write that kind of stuff interesting, you can. But you need the chops.

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Also i dont think he should be dead

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Have starline as a cyborg plz

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Why didn't they include it?

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too goated

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# sturdy token That isn't meta necessarily. You can have an in-world reason of why they don't g...

My claims of it being meta is more so in how it was used and why it was written not the concept of...explaining a concept. If you don't want to call it meta that's fine, but whatever you want to label it that sort of writing I think plagues the comics. I dont think it feels genuine it comes from expressing your understanding of the material in a way that is uninteresting to engage with at times and shadow in movie 3 is the opposite. Its a very different take on shadow and acts as if you never met him before all references are woven into his character so well you have to just be familiar to understand them. But they aren't needed. He's a character that stand son his own in a film that stands on its own. And I don't think chunks of idw does. And unfortunately those chunks are kinda large

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But im way WAY off topic

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i wanted to talk about how interestin I think film shadow is

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He might litterally be the polar opposite to many aspects of what game shadow is and I find that facinating

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It's honestly one of the main reason why I love the movie chars. They have have their own different take while staying true to their main portrayal

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None of the other characters are like that even sonic. Shadow in the films is strait up a different character entirely

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I would say 5 as well does this

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litterally issue 6 they just stop even trying to like introduce concepts or people they just...go

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I mean by that logic wouldn’t 7 and 8 also count as introducing concepts/people

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Neo, Silver and Whisper have pretty natural character introductions I feel

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but i'm not even gonna blame th ebook for that, thats forces fault

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The book at a that time was a continuation of forces, he was just there then he's just there now

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# fleet shadow My claims of it being meta is more so in how it was used and why it was written ...

To me, meta is one step before of fourth wall breaking. In the context of issue 6, Sonic and Shadow simply have a disagreement on killing Mr. Tinker. Shadow, being the pragmatic he is (or aggresive), wants to terminate Mr. Tinker because Eggman is a potential threat to the world and he doesn't want to give any opportunity of Eggman returning to his usual anthics. Sonic, by his side, has seen that Mr. Tinker no longer poses a threat to anyone around him so he wishes to stop Shadow.

I won't tell you to like how they handled Shadow in there and what not, but nothing there is meta specifically

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Ah ok i see our problem

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It's just in the context of what they've built with issue #5

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you are looking at meta as a concept being integrated into writing

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I'm looking at it as also why a thing exists and why is it being written

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The way you look at it isn't wrong, btw tbh its pretty reasonable

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I just think there are cases where you have to look at why a story exists to make that decernment

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Otherwise, I would consider 'meta' that Naruto tries to stop Gaara because Gaara is him if he didn't have Iruka, Kakashi, Sasuke, etc

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I think its that way different but this isn't a naruto discord so imma just say

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Sasuke didnt nothing wrong

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lol

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I mean, I can see why he did the things he did

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the Uchiha massacre is a whole can of worms

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basically a Pandora Box

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Screw itachi all my homies hate itachi

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Fair enough. My favorite akatsuki is Konan

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then comes Hidan

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